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The City of Cupertino hosted a virtual community meeting to share conceptual plan alternatives for the new All-Inclusive Playground at Jollyman Park.
A
All
right,
let's
get
started,
welcome
everyone
good
evening.
Thank
you
for
participating
in
this
community
meeting.
We
are
here
to
discuss
the
all-inclusive
playground
at
jolly
man
park.
I
am
evelyn
moran,
the
project
manager.
On
the
city
side
we
have
rachelle
sander
assistant,
director
of
parks
and
recreation,
susan,
michael
capital,
improvement
programs
manager.
A
A
This
is
tonight's
agenda,
starting
with
introductions
and
site
overview.
We
will
go
through
what
we
heard
from
the
community
so
far
followed
by
the
playground,
design,
concepts
and,
lastly,
q,
a
next
slide,
so
this
is
yeah,
so
our
project
timeline
is
as
follows:
in
2018,
the
city
of
cupertino
authorized
the
feasibility
study
for
an
all-inclusive
playground
in
2019
cupertino
was
awarded
the
aipg
grant
from
santa
clara
county
in
2022
the
design
and
fundraising
were
initiated
next
year.
We
anticipate
final
design,
construction
documents
and
construction.
A
B
You
very
much
evelyn
and
thank
you
all
for
attending
and
giving
us
some
feedback
tonight
we're
looking
forward
to
having
a
little
more
interaction
as
we
progress
through
this
as
evelyn
mentioned,
jan
and
I
are
with
mig,
we
are
a
multi-disciplinary
firm,
but
we've
been
working
on
inclusive
playgrounds
for
40
years
and
actually
have
helped
write
some
of
the
main
books
on
on
the
topic.
It's
a
a
topic
near
and
dear
to
our
hearts,
and
we've
been
working
with
the
city
and
with
you
all.
B
If
you
participate
in
some
of
our
earlier
events
in
developing
the
concept
that
we'll
be
presenting
tonight
with
the
gentleman
project
we've
given
you
a
little
snippet
of
who
we
are.
But
what
we'd
like
to
do
is
make
this
a
little
interactive
before
we
go
to
the
first
question,
though
I
just
want
folks,
if
you
have
not
used
zoom,
if
you
go
to
the
bottom
of
your
window,
you'll
see
that
there's
a
q
a
we'll
be
using
that
for
questions
which
will
be
fielding
at
the
end
of
the
presentation.
B
There's
a
chat
option
in
case
you
have
any
technical
issues,
use
that
so
that
we
can
help
address
that
in
the
meantime
and
then
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
little
bit
of
live
polling.
So
we
can
get
some
feedback
and
once
we
kind
of
go
through
that
piece,
we'll
actually
have
live
q
a
at
the
end.
So
you
can
use
your
raise
your
virtual
hand
using
that
as
well,
so
that
we
can
have
discussion
and
look
forward
for
those
conversations.
B
B
All
right,
so
we
have
a
little
bit
of
a
mix,
but
predominantly
cupertino
residents,
which
is
great
glad
to
have
you
here
and
looking
forward
to
that
related
to
that.
We
also
want
to
ask
a
follow-up
question
and
looking
at
whether
you
live
within
a
15
minute,
walk
or
roll
of
jolly
man
park.
B
B
And
a
pretty
good
proportion
of
you
do
and
some
don't,
which
is
great.
That
gives
us
a
nice
kind
of
variety
of
responses,
which
is
just
helpful
just
to
know,
since
that
is
obviously
one
of
the
main
things
that
we're
looking
at
and
then
the
last
one
before
we
get
into
kind
of
the
meat
of
the
pro
process
here
is:
do
you
yourself
have
a
physical,
sensory
or
cognitive
ability
that
limits
your
use
of
other
local
parks.
B
B
C
Great
thanks
melissa
glad
to
have
you
all
here
thanks
for
coming.
C
We
just
want
to
start
by
making
sure
that
we
all
know
our
collective
goal
here
which
we're
tasked
with
making
a
new
inclusive
place
where
people
of
all
ages
and
abilities
can
come
together,
and
we
want
to
make
sure
that
this
place
goes
beyond
what's
just
required
in
ada
and
really
speaks
to
a
variety
of
people
and
creates
an
environment
that
supports
play
and
social
interaction
for
people
with
autism,
for
people
with
sensory
and
cognitive,
developmental
and
physical
disabilities
and
for
people
that
don't
have
special
needs
where
everyone
can
come
together
and
play,
and
that's
really
our
goal
here
and
some
of
you
know
exactly
where
joliman
is
some
of
you
have
been
to
some
of
the
events.
C
C
So
here
we
have
a
map
of
cupertino
and
jolly
man
park
is
really
in
central
cupertino,
which
is
makes
it
a
great
place
to
have
the
inclusive
playground
so
that
many
people
can
reach
it.
Even
if
you're,
not
in
walking
distance,
it
shouldn't
be
too
far
to
get
there,
and
you
can
see
that
it's
close
to
85.
C
for
context.
You
can
see
d'anza
college
up
here
in
the
big
purple
box
and
city
hall,
cupertino
libraries
over
here
and
then
the
orange
circle
is
the
10
to
15
minute,
walk
or
roll,
depending
on
how
you
get
to
the
park.
Just
to
give
you
an
idea
of
scale
and
here's
what
the
site
looks
like
now.
The
whole
park
stelling
road
is
over
there
on
the
left.
C
We
have
the
existing
parking
lot
here,
which
will
be
good
access
for
the
new
park,
and
then
we
have
also
access
points
over
here
and
over
here.
The
next
slide
really
shows
you
a
little
bit
more
of
what
goes
on
at
jolly
man.
So
these
are
some
of
the
different
play
areas
and
circulation
parking.
All
of
that
is
shown
here
just
to
quickly
run
down
where
we
are
there's
two
play
areas
currently.
C
So
the
first
player
up
here
in
the
purple
circle
is
a
currently
aged
two
to
five
play
area
and
that
one
will
be
remaining
I'm
having
trouble
with
my
cursor.
Hopefully
you
can't
see
those
boxes
for
canyon,
melissa,
okay,
so
hopefully
you
just
see
the
cursor
and
then
over
here
we
have
the
soccer
fields.
C
So
this
is
really
just
a
big
grassy
area,
but
it
does
have
multiple
uses,
so
sometimes
people
just
do
informal
volleyball,
but
on
the
weekends
I
know
there's
a
lot
of
soccer
games
there,
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
take
up
that
space
and
we
leave
that
for
soccer.
So
the
area
that
we're
going
to
be
working
on
is
this
play
area
number
two
here
and
that's
the
area.
C
That's
designed
right
now
for
age,
five
to
twelve
and
we'll
be
expanding,
that
into
to
make
it
a
much
larger
area
and
be
more
inclusive
of
both
age
groups,
so
that
parents
can
watch
kids
that
fall
in
both
age
groups
in
one
fenced
area,
and
then
you
can
also
see
some
of
the
other
amenities
throughout
the
park.
There's
the
existing
restroom
over
here
existing
baseball
field
over
here
and
the
dog
leash
off
leash
area
over
here.
C
Here's
a
little
view
of
the
play
area
that
we're
renovating.
So
this
is
the
kind
of
more
typical
metal
structure
that
you
know
can
be
fun
but
doesn't
offer
a
variety
of
play.
Experiences
that
we're
trying
to
go
for
in
the
new
park
and
the
scope
of
the
project
will
be
about
.85
acres
that
will
include
some
landscape
buffer
and
the
fenced
area
within
that.
C
So
so
far,
some
of
you
have
been
attendees.
At
these
events,
we've
done
a
number
of
community
visioning
events
in
the
first
part
of
the
year
so
february
through
april,
starting
with,
we
had
an
enclave
inclusive
play
primer
for
those
that
wanted
to
know
more
about
inclusive
play
and
go
a
little
bit
deeper.
So
this
was
really
geared
towards
staff,
but
then
we
have
also
posted
it
to
the
website.
C
So
anyone
who
wants
to
get
more
background
on
that
can
find
it
on
the
engage
cupertino
website,
and
then
we
had
an
online
survey
that
was
to
go
through
the
community's
vision
and
and
suss
out
what
what
people
wanted
to
see
here,
what
what
their
expectations
were.
And
then
we
had
a
couple
of
pop-up
events,
one
at
the
park,
one
at
the
earth
day
event,
and
then
we
had
a
community
collaborator
virtual
meeting,
which
was
really
geared
towards
people
with
disabilities
or
those
who
cared
for
them
to
just
go
a
little
deeper
into
understanding.
C
Out
of
all
of
these
events,
we
came
up
with
a
lot
of
input,
especially
from
the
survey
we
got
308
responses
and
we
found
that
90
of
those
responses
were
residents
of
cupertino
and
half
of
them
lived
close
enough
to
walk
or
wheelchair
to
jolly
men
within
15
minutes.
So
that's
a
good
good
representation
and
40
percent
of
the
people
care
for
somebody
who
has
physical,
sensory
and
or
cognitive
differences,
and
about
the
same
number
personally
experience.
Those
differences
and
those
abilities
have
limited
their
use
to
use
other
local
parks.
C
Next,
so
other
things
we
learned
from
the
survey
and
other
outreach
events
were
the
top
choice
for
respondents
for
the
ideal,
look
and
feel
were
organic
and
naturalistic
in
style,
with
second
choice
being
artistic
and
the
top
choice
for
ideas
and
features
that
people
wanted
to
see
integrated
into
the
new
playground
for
nature
and
exploration,
features
followed
by
sensory
art
and
color
features,
and
then
talking
about
the
active
play
features
that
people
wanted
to
see.
The
top
three
were
climbing
sliding
and
swinging.
C
C
Those
can
be
delivered
through
color
texture,
movement,
highlighting
discovery
and
imagination
and
interacting
with
others,
and
of
course
we
we
want
to
have
gathering
spaces.
It's
always
important
and
I
think
we've
all
been
to
these
parks,
where
there's
not
enough
places
to
sit
or
there's
not
enough
shade.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
those
needs
are
met,
that
there's
comfort
amenities,
like
natural
tree,
shade
benches,
with
backs
picnic
tables
drinking
fountain.
That
type
of
thing.
C
So
taking
all
of
this
input,
we've
heard
so
far.
We
came
up
with
two
concepts
and
based
on
the
overwhelming
direction
of
the
community.
We
came
up
with
two
concepts
that
both
have
a
theme
of
nature
exploration,
but
within
that
we
came
up
with
two
concepts
that
vary
in
their
futures.
They
vary
in
some
of
the
layouts.
C
So
what
we're
here
today
to
do
is
to
understand
you
know
what
are
the
communities
priorities
now
that
you
can
visualize
what
we
were
talking
about
on
paper
with
the
plan
and
some
imagery
that
we'll
show
you,
what
are
your
top
priorities
and
we'll
figure
out
how
to
either
choose
number
one
if
100
people
like
number
one
or
number
two
or
we
might
find
out,
which
features
from
either
one
that
you
like
and
come
up
with
kind
of
a
final
combo
and
our
goal
at
the
end
of
this
round
of
outreach
is
to
come
up
with
a
preferred
concept
plan,
and
so
then
we'll
have
that
clear
direction
that
we
can
take
forward
into
construction
documents
and
build.
C
And
there's
some
some
ideas
and
features
that
are
in
both
plans,
because
you
know
they
just
make
overwhelming
sense,
based
on
what
we
heard
and
what
we
know
about
playground
design.
So
this
list
shows
some
of
the
community
ideas
that
are
incorporated
into
both
of
the
concepts.
The
look
and
feel
is
organic
and
naturalistic.
C
The
ideas
and
features
focus
on
nature
and
exploration.
We
have
those
top
three
active
play:
elements
climbing
sliding
and
swinging.
We
have
inclusive
cooperative
imaginative
play
and
we
integrate
sensory
art
and
color
in
different
ways
and
then
design
features
that
are
incorporated
into
both
concepts.
C
You
can
see
we'll
look
at
these
larger,
but
just
to
give
you
a
sense
of
what's
in
both
both
of
them
are
cited
right
next
to
the
existing
parking
area.
C
Don't
worry
about
kids
running
off
too
much
and
can
watch
their
kids
safely
and
they
both
have
a
north
gate
and
a
south
gate
so
that
there's
multiple
entry
points
they
both
offer.
The
comfort
features
that
I
talked
about
before
in
the
gathering
grove
and
then
both
of
them
have
a
future
restroom
that
you
can
see
in
the
dash
box
up
here
at
the
top
of
this
one
and
then
the
top
of
this
one.
So
this
was
an
idea
that
came
up
in
early
discussions
and
through
visioning
as
well.
C
That
was
supported
that
people
did
think
that
there
was
a
need
for
a
restroom
closer
to
the
playground.
So
now
the
city
has
gone
after
funding
for
that,
and
we
hope
that
the
timing
will
work
out
that
we
can
do
them
at
the
same
time.
It
looks
like
it
will
also
incorporated
into
both
our
is
planting
throughout.
So
we
have
shade
trees
you
can
see,
and
the
plants
are
very
green.
We
have
brought
those
into
the
playground
instead
of
just
keeping
them
all
at
the
edges.
C
Like
you
see
in
a
lot
of
hot
hot
playgrounds
that
we've
all
been
in
and
we
have
we
integrate
plans
for
play
in
the
playground,
because
that
can
be
a
great
play
feature
for
kids.
They
like
to
understand.
You
know
how
plants
are
put
together.
It's
like
architecture,
they
like
to
see
the
texture
and
the
color
and
the
smells.
C
So
there's
a
lot
a
lot,
a
lot
in
the
natural
world
for
kids
to
play
with,
and
then
we
also
have
bioretention
planting,
which
is
a
requirement,
but
is
also
a
good
good
practice
to
treat
the
water
before
it
gets
out
into
the
storm
system
and
then
also
in
both
schemes.
We
have
some
play
features
that
are
the
same,
so
I'll
just
go
through
those
really
quick.
We
have
the
youth
age
slide
mountain
in
both
which
you
can
see
here.
C
This
kind
of
spiral
circle
up
here
and
here
so
we
just
decided
that
was
desired
enough.
That
we
would
put
that
in
both
of
them
and
same
for
swings.
Swinging
is
such
an
important,
an
important
developmental
thing
for
kids.
So
we
have
that
in
both
and
then
we
also
have
retreat
spaces
in
both
that
are
off
to
the
side
that
allow
children
who
might
be
overwhelmed
by
all
the
activity
around
them.
They
might
want
to
see
what's
going
on,
but
they
might
not
want
to
be
surrounded
by
it.
B
All
right
so
before
I
pop
up
the
pool,
we
want
you
to
at
least
have
a
chance
to
look
at
the
images
of
what
these
things
might
look
like.
We
know
that
seating
is
really
important,
and
so
this
gives
you
an
idea
when
we
talk
about
a
glider,
it's
either
a
rocking
bench
or
some
bench.
That
has
some
motion
to
it.
C
And
I
have
heard
that
there
is
possibly
a
ping
pong
table
going
in
soon.
We
need
to
confirm
that,
but
I
think
that
is
happening
elsewhere
in
the
park.
A
B
C
B
C
C
The
basketball,
half
port
that
exists
currently
in
that
circle
will
remain
and
it'll
be
outside
the
play
area
fence
in
concept
two
we
have
shifted.
We
take
up
less
of
the
the
green
area
to
the
north
and
we
have
shifted
more
to
the
east
and
taken
up
that
basketball
court
area
for
use
in
the
playground.
C
So
the
question
is,
you
know:
is
this
important
to
you?
If
it
is,
we've
also
realized
that
we
can
establish
some
of
the
elements
from
number
two
and
still
keep
the
basketball
court,
so
we're
just
trying
to
gauge
the
interest
of
like
how
crucial
is
it
to
keep
the
basketball
court
so
I'll?
Let
melissa
launch
this
poll
question.
B
So
this
one's
a
little
bit
longer,
so
the
first
one
really
takes
a
look
at.
Do
you
really
want
to
to
keep
that?
Is
the
basketball
important
to
you?
Two
are
you
concerned
and
or
how
do
you
want
to
try
and
address
it?
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
text
in
there.
If
you
want
to
take
a
moment,
take
a
look.
B
B
C
B
C
So
on
the
left
side
here
is
the
whole
youth
area,
and
that's
all
of
these
descriptions
in
this
upper
part
here
and
then
on.
The
right
side
is
the
taut
area.
So
that's
more
for
ages,
two
to
five.
So
in
this
concept,
one
just
quickly,
we
have
the
slide
mountain
in
the
youth
area.
C
C
We
have
well
this
one's
kind
of
like
in
between
it's
it's
in
neither
area,
it's
the
nest
wings
and,
in
my
experience
those
they're
meant
for
age
five
and
up,
but
they're
really
used
by
people
from
two
to
ninety,
because
you
can
kind
of
lay
down
on
it
and
have
multiple
people
and
be
any
any
any
arrangement.
C
C
C
It
might
not
be
exactly
that,
but
a
quiet
space
that
you
can
pull
off
to
the
side
it
can
be
for
retreat.
It
can
also
be
for
imagination
play
kind
of
like
a
playhouse,
a
natural
playhouse
and
then
for
imagery
for
the
top
area.
We
have
swings
here,
the
forest
house,
so
this
is
kind
of
a
little
mini
mini
house
with
multiple
things
to
do
swing,
climbing
imagination
and
then
forest
path
nature
retreat
drums.
C
We
also
have
chimes
in
this
scheme
down
here
and
then.
The
other
big
element
in
the
top
area
is
the
sand
and
water
area
of
the
creek.
So
we
have
a
creekside
stage.
C
We
have
the
creek
itself,
which
we
will
have
an
elevated
area
so
that
a
wheelchair
wheelchair
can
get
up
to
it
and
then
we'll
have
a
transfer
into
the
sand
area
and
we'll
have
log
seating
elements
and
then
the
water,
any
extra
water
can
be
drained
into
the
fire
retention
area
and
then
park
features
for
number
one
are
the
nest?
C
Wings
that
I
talked
about
here,
you
can
see
multiple
kids
are
using
it
at
the
same
time,
the
the
chimes
and
then
the
gathering
grove
there's
a
variety
of
options
for
seating
there,
as
we
just
discussed,
and
then
this
collage
is
just
inspiration
for
potential
art
image.
Art
features
so
we're
thinking
depending
on
which
scheme
was
picked
and
how
we
arranged
the
budget
that
these
features
could
have
sort
of
a
background
of
sun
moon
and
clouds
to
draw
on
that
nature
exploration
theme.
Those
could
be
overhead
elements
that
have
reflection,
possibilities,
kaleidoscopes
and
idea.
C
So
we
have
a
similar
division
of
left
and
right
with
youth
area
and
taught
area.
So
the
difference
in
layout
here
is
right.
When
you
enter
you
see
kind
of
both
swings,
so
it's
kind
of
like
enter
into
the
swing
zone
and
then
in
the
youth
area
you
have
the
top
hill
or
this
sorry,
the
slide
mountain.
So
there's
a
multiple,
multiple
kinds
of
slides.
You
can
have
there
and
multiple
ways
up
as
well:
there'll
be
a
accessible
path,
of
course,
and
then
there's
a
stairway
and
then
there's
scrambles.
C
This
one
shows
stones.
This
is
like
a
rope
one
net
one
and
then
the
other
feature
on
the
youth
area
and
concept.
2
is
a
neck
climber
and
then
for
the
top
area.
It's
a
little
different.
We
don't
have
the
stand
and
water
play
in
this
one.
Instead,
we
have
the
junior
slide
hill
here
with
some
log
and
boulder
climbing
and
some
little
turf
mounds,
and
then
we
have
in
the
middle
of
the
forest
path
is
where
the
little
stage
would
be,
and
in
this
one
the
music
elements
are
grouped
up
with
the
stage.
D
C
In
the
forest,
and
then
we
have
the
nest
wings
down
here
off
to
off
to
the
side
it's
kind
of
along
the
path,
so
both
age
groups
can
still
use
that
and
then
here's
the
imagery
that
goes
with
that.
So
hopefully,
this
makes
it
a
little
bit
more
clear
in
your
mind
again,
the
youth
swings
and
slide
mountain
which
we
saw
in
the
other
one.
Now
this
one
is
different
in
concept:
two,
the
lookout
net
structure
there.
C
It
also
has
a
chalk
art
area,
the
nature
retreat
we
talked
about
and
then
for
the
top
area.
Some
of
these
features
are
the
same.
C
The
top
swings
the
forest,
theater
chimes
and
drums
and
forest
path
are
arranged
differently,
but
in
both,
but
then
the
main
difference
in
the
top
area
is
that
this
junior
slide
hill
replaces
the
sand
and
water
play
area.
So
that
would
be
the
difference
in
this
one
and
then
the
park
features
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
again
because
it's
it's
very
similar
in
both
they're
just
in
different
places.
C
C
B
B
D
C
Okay,
so
now
we
want
to
understand
what
some
of
your
favorite
youth
features
are
on
this
slide.
You
can
see
under
the
one
or
the
features
in
concept
one
and
then
on
the
right
side.
You
can
see
the
features
in
concept
too,
and
then
we'll
show
you
those
kind
of
just
mixed
up,
so
you
can
vote
on
your
favorite
ones.
C
So
on
the
upper
grouping,
here
you
can
see
the
slide
hill
and
then
this
is
the
multi
kid
globe.
Spinner
very
good
exercise.
I
will
say:
I've
seen
my
kids
push
this
and
they
they
were
tuckered
out,
and
then
we
got
the
swings
and
then
over
here
on
the
bottom
left.
We
have
the
variety
of
paths
shortcuts
and
rambles.
We
have
the
climbing
net
here,
the
nature
retreat
and
then
the
chalk
area.
B
D
B
C
All
right
now
we
have
a
similar
question
for
the
top
area.
One
is
shown
on
the
right
two
one
is
shown
on
the
left.
Two
is
on
the
right,
but
we're
going
to
show
you
them
here
all
mixed
up
and
you
can
see
the
music
features
first
and
then
we
have
the
junior
slide
hill
and
the
nate
stanton
water
play
the
deck
stage
and
the
forest
house.
Forest
path
swings,
turf,
mounds,
nature
retreat
and
then
boulder
and
log
scramble.
B
B
C
Okay:
next,
we
wanted
to
ask
just
a
general
interest
question
about
the
san
and
water
play
and
how
important
it
was
to
you
to
include.
B
With
generally
the
majority
going
for
very
important
or
important,
but
some
that
it's
not
high
on
the
list
so
again
a
kind
of
a
spectrum
but
a
little
bit
more
on
the
the
interest.
So
thank
you.
C
Okay,
well,
that's
not
the
end
of
our
our
meeting,
but
it's
the
end
of
the
design
presentation
part,
and
so
we
want
to
quickly
show
you
the
next
steps
and
then
get
to
q
a
so
that
we
can
actually
speak
with
you.
There's
a
small
enough
group
that
we
can
have
raised
hands
or
we
can
do
chat,
but
first
I
just
want
to
show
you
what
we
have
next.
C
We
had
these
three
events
already.
This
is
the
last
one
were
planned,
but
we
still
have
the
online
survey
open.
So
if
you
know
people
that
didn't
get
to
come
tonight,
that
might
be
interested,
please
direct
them
to
this
online
survey.
It'll
be
open
until
july,
14th.
C
And
then
next
we
have
just
to
let
you
know
the
next
steps.
Following
up
on
what
evelyn
said,
we
are
planning
to
develop
the
final
preferred
concept
plan
in
the
next
couple
months
and
then
we'll
share
that
with
the
public
that'll
be
on,
engage
cupertino,
and
then
we
will
do
the
design
and
construction
documents
start
construction
in
2023
and
have
the
grand
reopening
of
the
new
all-inclusive
playground
in
2024..
C
B
Excellent
and
jen,
why
don't
you
go
ahead
and
go
back
a
couple
slides
to
the
one
that
has
both
options?
One
and
two
on
it?
We
didn't
have
any
questions
that
were
posted
in
in
the
chat
or
the
q
a,
but
we're
happy
to
kind
of,
hear
comments
if
you
are
welcome
to
use
the
chat
or
the
q
a
or,
if
you
virtually
raise
your
hand,
which
is
an
option
on
the
bottom.
I'd
be
happy
to
unmute
you
and
you
can
ask
it
live
if
you'd
rather
do
it
that
way.
B
And
I'm
not
seeing
any
questions
we're
hands.
Oh
here
we
go.
So
we
do
have
a
question.
Will
there
be
a
water
area
with
climbing
rocks
like
the
one
at
fur
oaks
in
sunnyvale.
B
I
think,
maybe
I
think
at
this
point,
the
main
piece
with
the
water
area
is
the
sanded
water
play
which
is
in
option
one:
oh
sorry,
air
oaks
and
sunny
mail,
and
so
that's
a
consideration
that
we
can
take
a
look
at
refinement.
B
C
Yeah,
I
think
it
does
depend
on
the
person,
and
so
it's
it's
treated
differently
in
each
one
and
number
one
they're
right
here
and
they
are
a
little
bit
more
public,
because
it's
kind
of
right
at
the
edge
of
the
gathering
road
and
then
in
number,
two
they're,
just
in
the
forest
theater
thinking
that
maybe
it
would
make
sense
to
do
you
know
kind
of
music
performance
altogether
might
be
kind
of
a
fun
thing
to
throw
in
there.
C
But
it's
also
a
pretty
easily
avoidable
area
in
this
case,
so
I
think
maybe
that
might
be
something
that
you're,
maybe
leaning
towards
carol
is
maybe
something
like
a
number
two
makes
more
sense.
In
your
view,.
B
D
C
See
I
don't
know
if
we
can
go
back
very
easily
to
see
the
picture,
but
here
you
can
see,
there's
one
pretty
much
at
each
area.
So
here's
one
near
the
slide
mountain
here's
one
near
the
lookout,
so
those
are
both
very
active
features.
So
this
is
something
off
to
the
side
that
you
can
pull
off
in
and
get
out
of
the
main
main
action
and
then
in
this
one
over
in
the
top
area.
Those
same
features
are
over
here,
but
they're
they're
on
along
the
forest
path.
C
So
it's
a
little
bit
even
more
off
the
beaten
path
and
then
in
concept
one.
I
think
that
we
do
only
show
one
in
the
youth
area,
but
we
could
certainly
add
one
like
we
did
in
the
other
one
over
here
at
slide,
mountain
and
then
the
same
thing.
The
two
on
the
top
area
or
over
here.
B
B
There
was
a
comment
about
this
sound
arch
at
morgan
hill,
and
I
think
the
specifics
on
the
music
equipment
will
be
something
that
we're
open
to
looking
at,
based
on
what
you
know,
what
works
within
within
the
space
and
or
provides
the
range,
but,
as
jan
said,
I
think,
as
we
look
at
citing
just
making
sure
that
again
we're
providing
spaces
that
also
allow
for
quiet
contempt
of
play,
as
well
as
those
are
maybe
a
little
bit
more
active
and
or
louder
just
to
accommodate.
The
range
of
sensory
needs.
B
Great,
maybe
just
give
a
few
more
moments
if
folks
want
to
provide
anything
else,
no
pressure.
This
is
a
safe
space.
You
can
also
put
in
comments
anonymously
if
you
would
like
one
of
the
main
things
that
we're
we're
doing
by
trying
to
have
a
variety
of
pop-up
events.
The
online
survey
and
components
is
just
try
and
make
sure
that
we
have
a
a
good
perspective
and
kind
of
hear
from
as
many
folks
as
possible,
so
that
we
can
make
it
an
informed
piece.
B
We
know
that
one
size
does
not
fit
all,
but
looking
at
the
range
of
providing
as
many
opportunities
to
engage
in
the
activities
as
we
can
within
this
space,
so
that
folks
can
kind
of
self-select.
B
We
also
acknowledge
that
risk
is
important,
but
we
also
want
to
provide
a
variety
of
opportunities,
because
not
everything
is
works
for
everyone,
so
things
for
people
to
be
able
to
kind
of
do
on
their
own
other
things
where
people
can
do
it
collaboratively
others,
where
it's
more
of
a
group
effort
but
trying
to
provide
a
range
of
those
both
passive
and
active
and
working
through
the
different
sensory
needs.
As
part
of
the
considerations.
B
Right
so,
let's
see,
we've
got
another
question
here:
are
there
any
design
for
assisting
blind
people?
So
we
are
looking
and
jen
you
can
pop
into.
B
We
are
looking
at
a
range
of
considerations,
they're
both
looking
at
folks
that
have
some
site
capacity
and
looking
at
high
contrast
and
tech
tactile,
but
we
are
also
looking
at
opportunities
to
take
a
look
at
braille,
potentially
and
or
kind
of
other
sensory
cues,
to
help
identify
wayfinding
within
the
components
and
so
certainly
looking
at
opera
options,
and
if
there
are
certain
things
that
would
be
particularly
helpful
or
that
you
found
particularly
opening
as
far
as
engaging
activity,
we'd
love
to
hear
thoughts
or
suggestions
that
we
can
look
at
specifically.
C
One
thing
we've
done
in
other
places
is
have
the
kind
of
a
stone
band
at
the
edge
of
the
walkways
so
that
it
creates
a
sort
of
a
guide
to
keep,
keep
you
from
getting
off
the
edge
and
it
it's
like
a
a
textural
cue
that
helps
little
things
like
that.
C
But
we're
definitely
open
to
hearing
any
specific
features
that
you're
thinking
about.
B
We
have
certainly
used
a
variety
of
braille
signs
or
wave
finding,
but
we
find
signage
doesn't
necessarily
work
for
everyone
and
becomes
more
of
a
clutter
for
some.
So
using
textual
cues
has
been
most
helpful
and
then
looking
for
multiple
ways
for
folks
to
engage.
But
if
you
have
some
specifics,
please
do
feel
free
to
to
share
those
either
in
the
chat
or
q
a
or
on
the
online
survey.
We're
always
looking
for
better
learned
experience
and
what
has
been
successful.
F
I
will
thank
you
I'll
just
say
that
I'm
actually
thrilled
that
mig
is
working
on
this
project
with
us
because
they
bring
in
so
much
experience
and
knowledge
of
having
done
this
type
of
playground
in
other
areas
and
the
passion
that
you
guys
both
bring.
So
thank
you
and
I'm
excited
to
see
where
we
end
up
here.
B
B
We
we
are
taking
that
you
know
to
heart,
we're
pretty
clear
that
it's
going
to
be
some
mix
of
the
two,
and
so,
while
we've
asked
some
specific
questions
tonight
and
also
on
the
online
survey
about
different
aspects
of
what's
included
in
the
plan,
we
do
really
look
forward
to
hearing
from
you
all
to
help
guide
the
final
evolution
of
this
we're
very
excited
that
the
city
is
moving
forward
and
we're
successful
in
getting
the
grant
to
really
kind
of
help
push
the
accessibility
and
inclusion
within
play,
because
we
all
need
it,
and
so
we're
very
excited
to
see
how
this
takes
form
and
your
feedback
is
what's
going
to
help.
B
Make
make
this
the
special
piece
that
we
want
jolly
men
to
be
so
I'll,
give
one
last
little
pass
around
in
case.
Anyone
has
any
other
comments
or
questions,
but
otherwise,
I
think
we'll
say
thank
you
very
much.
Please
feel
free
to
fill
out
the
survey
it's
open
for
another
couple
weeks
yet
and
then
look
forward
to
seeing
what
we
come
up
with,
based
on
your
feedback
as
far
as
a
single
concept
and
maybe
pass
it
back
to
jan
or
anyone
else
who
might
want
to
end.
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
Everyone,
who's
attended.
We
appreciate
the
feedback
and
we
can
stay
on
a
for
a
few
more
minutes
and
if
you
have
any
other
comments
or
anything,
let
us
know
anyways,
we'll
close
it
up.
B
Okay,
with
that,
we
will
end.
Thank
you
so
much
feel
free
to
fill
out.
The
survey
provide
additional
comments,
check
the
city's
website
and
look
forward
for
a
meeting
invite
for
a
preferred
concept
in
about
two
months.
I
think,
is
the
time
frame.
So
thanks
so
much
good
night.