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From YouTube: Cupertino City Council Meeting - June 21, 2023 (Part 2)
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Coverage of the Wednesday, June 21, 2023 Cupertino City Council Meeting. Part 2 of 2.
A
We're
gonna
move
into
postponement.
Order
of
the
day.
Do
we
have
any
postmodern
order
of
the
day,
no
mere
way?
Okay,
if
not,
we
are
going
to
oral
Communications.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
Council
on
any
matter
within
the
jurisdiction
of
the
council,
but
not
on
the
agenda
for
discussion,
including
information
items.
Let
us
see
the
clerk.
Do
we
have
any
cards?
Yes,.
B
C
C
Good
evening,
mayor
Ray
vice
mayor
Mohan
and
the
city
council,
I'm
Muni
madipatla
a
long
time
resident
of
Cupertino
I'm
here
representing
myself,
I
wanted
the
city
clerk
to
play
a
one
minute,
clip
from
district
attorney.
Mr
Jeff
Rosen
on
sb403
I
understand
the
City
attorney
as
copyright
consents.
Please
note
that
you
know
para.
Alto
residents
were
able
to
pay
the
same
clip
during
that
council
meeting
since
the
clip
couldn't
be
played.
C
I'm
also
very
concerned
about
anyone
being
stigmatized
or
any
Community
being
assumed
to
be
racist
because
they
look
certain
way
or
come
from
certain
days,
and
so
one
of
the
concerns
I
certainly
would
have
about
this
bill
that
talks
about
caste
discrimination.
Is
it
strikes
me
as
discriminating
against
Indian
Americans
and
making
them
suspect
in
some
way
that
others
are
not?
That
last
statement
is
very
important
right,
so
it
pains
Indian
Americans,
as
you
know,
suspect,
and
discriminatory
unfairly
right
and
by
the
way
we
also
that's
end
of
you
know,
Jeff
rosen's
statement.
C
C
That's
unfairly
discriminates
against
Indian
Americans
I
would
like
our
city
to
submit
a
letter
opposing
SB
403
is
ASAP
I,
see
in
the
staff
report
that
the
manager
is
suggesting
this
to
be
taken
up
in
December,
since
this
law
is
fast
tracking
through
legislation
to
pass
before
summary,
says:
I,
don't
see
the
point
of
delaying
this.
As
an
elected
representative
representing
us,
please
submit
a
position
letter
opposing
unfair
and
discriminatory
as
before,
zero
three
as
soon
as
possible.
Thank
you.
B
B
D
You
hi,
my
name
is
Toby
Levitt
I
work
with
the
San
Francisco
Shakespeare
Festival
I'm,
here
to
thank
you
for
adding
free
Shakespeare
in
the
park
back
to
the
city's
2023-24
budget
and
I'm.
So
sorry,
I
wasn't
here
last
meeting,
we've
already
begun
fundraising
for
free
Shakespeare
in
the
park
in
Cupertino
and
are
pleased
to
let
you
know
that
the
Cupertino
Library
Foundation
is
the
first
to
pledge
their
financial
support.
D
If
you
have
any
leads
that
you
would
like
me
to
follow
up
on
or
introductions
you
would
like
to
make
on
behalf
of
free
Shakespeare
in
Cupertino,
I
would
be
most
grateful.
We've
got
a
really
strong
case
to
raise
funds
for
this
beloved
program.
Remember
that
we
leverage
local
funding
by
securing
philanthropic
funding
from
Regional
funders
such
as
the
William
and
Flora
Hewlett
foundation
and
national
funding
from
the
National
Endowment
for
the
Arts,
with
your
there
and
other
support
the
show
Will
Go
On
We're
hard
at
work
preparing
this
Summer's
production
of
Shakespeare
symboline.
D
The
set
is
almost
built
and
ready
for
painting
the
costumes
are
being
stitched
and
and
the
hurt
and
rehearsal
with
the
actors
begin
next
week.
Performances
in
Memorial
Park
begin
in
just
one
month
on
July,
22nd
and
I
hope
to
see
you.
There
expect
big
performances,
music,
delicious
villains
and,
ultimately,
a
family-friendly
coming-of-age
story.
Symboline
features
a
dazzling
mix
of
comedy
tragedy
and
a
fairy
tale.
That
concludes
with
inventive
scenes
of
Revelation
and
joyous
reconciliation.
D
In
this
tale,
a
series
of
unimaginable
Misadventures
ensue
that
tests
the
strength
of
the
character's
commitment
to
each
other
they
say
Shakespeare's
plays,
are
Timeless
and
I'm
sure
we
can
all
relate
to
encountering
Misadventures
that
test.
The
strength
of
our
commitment
to
each
other.
We've
been
performing
free
Shakespeare
in
the
park
in
cupertino's,
beautiful,
Memorial
Park.
Since
1995.
D
the
city's
budget
was
smaller
than
Apple
had
just
released
the
power
Macintosh
9500
code
named
tsunami.
A
lot
has
happened
since
then,
against
a
backdrop
of
theater
companies
still
struggling
in
even
closing
doing
due
to
ongoing
pandemic
impacts,
we're
hoping
that
our
decades-long
relationship
with
the
city
of
Cupertino
and
the
popularity
of
the
program
with
local
families
allows
us
to
find
a
path
forward
to
again
put
the
program
on
a
sustainable
footing.
Thank
you
for
the
honor
of
the
27
years
of
collaboration.
Let's
keep
collaborating
together
and
make
this
happen.
E
Rhoda
good
evening,
council
members
I'm
really
concerned
about
how
the
city
is
spending
our
precious
tax
dollars
and
where
we're
putting
our
values,
I
recently
received
a
survey
on
changing
the
city's
website.
If
it
ain't
broke,
don't
fix
it
we're
in
a
severe
budget
crunch,
even
if
we
can
get
out
of
cdtfa
reduction,
which
I
doubt
there
are
other
major
pressures
on
the
budget,
for
instance.
Consider
that
the
county
is
making
severe
budget
cuts,
but
Cupertino
is
making
microscopescopic
token
concessions.
Please
stop
spending
money
on
this
website.
E
The
council
and
the
public
should
also
know
that
we
wasted
over
forty
thousand
dollars
each
on
a
frivolous
lawsuit
from
the
League
of
Women
Voters,
and
a
consultant
to
investigate
council
members
and
I
would
ask.
Why
was
this
consultant
hired
prior
to
council
approval
Furthermore
with
respect
to
values
and
accountability?
I'm
disappointed
that
certain
council,
members
and
staff
did
not
recognize
the
legitimate
issues
raised
by
council
members,
ciao
and
Moore
pertaining
to
multiple
conflicts
of
interest
with
a
chamber
of
commerce?
We
need
to
be
aware
of
these.
E
These
conflicts
are
real
and
must
be
considered
if
you
are
to
truly
represent
the
residents.
Please
take
time
to
listen
to
their
testimony.
Please
stop
wasting
our
money,
residence
time,
staff
time
and
resources.
I
beg
you
to
focus
on
what
most
matters
to
Residents.
To
that
point,
I'm
grateful
that
Shakespeare
in
the
park
has
been
restored
for
this
season.
It
was
my
pleasure
to
work
with
Toby
and
this
brainstorm
with
her
on
how
to
retain
our
community
program
that
is
going
on
for
30
years
and
hopefully
another
30..
Thank
you.
F
Jack
Jeff
testing
my
voice.
Okay,
I,
want
to
thank
the
city
council
for
how
well
run
the
meetings
have
been
in
the
last
few
months.
It's
really
previously
in
previous
years,
I
was
I,
would
lead
the
dollar
community
and
coming
to
council
and,
oh
my
goodness,
the
meetings
ran
over
until
like
at
11
30.
Even
though
the
dollars
were
on
on
the
agenda,
we
never
had
a
chance
to
speak
up
and,
and
then
people
came
out
of
the
meeting.
F
Think,
following
the
grand
jury
and
independent
investigator
findings,
the
current
city
council
has
implemented
some
good
changes
that
reduced
endless
talking
like
10
to
15
minutes,
to
make
a
emotion
from
two
council
members
talking
between
themselves
and
reduced
filibustering,
because,
basically,
as
our
Senate
has
shown,
you
can
stop
progress
from
occurring.
You
can
stop
items
from
even
reaching
a
discussion
by
filibustering.
Endless
talking.
F
So
I
really
appreciate
how
this
Council
has
allowed
people
to
have
10
minutes
to
sign
out
to
to
speak
so
I
think
that
allows
wonderful
input
from
the
residents
and
I
really
liked
how
the
the
council
majority
voted
for
having
all
the
emails
and
the
the
findings
of
the
independent
investigator
and
the
grand
jury
be
made
public
and
transparent
and
I
I.
They.
F
B
G
Good
evening,
city
council
and
mayor
V,
I
wrote
in
to
you
on
this
topic
as
well,
and
I
have
shared
with
the
the
previous
economic
development
manager,
Tina
Kapoor
information
from
subject
matter,
experts
in
the
retail
asset
class.
The
information
that
I've
shared
with
you
in
writing
is
that
it
is
possible
for
the
city
to
influence
the
selection
of
retail,
tenants
that
move
into
vacated
retail
shopping,
centers
and
strip
walls
in
Cupertino.
G
As
you're
aware,
Sprouts
has
been
vacated
and
a
number
of
details
tenants
have
dictated
in
that
stretch
on
Stevens
Creek
I
request
you
to
please
work
with
the
corporate
leasing
offices
of
corporate
tenants
that
we
would
like
to
attract
to
the
city
of
Cupertino.
In
particular,
I'd
like
to
draw
to
your
attention
a
few
retail
tenants
that
would
make
Cupertino
a
more
enjoyable
place.
Over
the
weekend.
G
I
was
actually
able
to
witness
Legoland,
which
is
now
in
the
west,
in
in
the
in
the
Great
Mall
and
Legoland,
as
we
all
know,
for
kids
has
been
a
destination
to
travel
to
in
Carlsbad.
No
longer
do
you
need
to
do
that?
You
can
actually
enjoy
Legoland
right
here
in
Great
Mall
and
seeing
how
popular
that
was
there's
opportunities
to
bring
more
such
destinations
into
vacant.
G
Retail
space
such
as
props,
so
I
encourage
the
city
council
to
work
with
corporate
leasing
offices
of
potential
tenants
to
attract
the
kinds
of
retail
tenants
that
will
make
Cupertino
a
journal
along
the
same
lines.
I
also
want
to
ask
that
you
consider
why
we
do
not
have
any
food
trucks
in
Cupertino
residents
are
facing
High
inflation.
The
cost
of
our
restaurants,
often
drives
them
away
to
another
city
to
eat
at
food
trucks.
G
I'd
love
to
see
you
consider
what
is
preventing
us
from
allowing
food
trucks
to
park
in
open
parking,
centers
that
are
available
in
all
these
vacant
shopping
malls
that
we
have.
You
can
just
drive
a
couple
of
miles
out
to
the
city
of
San
Jose
or
the
City
of
Santa
Clara
or
the
City
of
Sunnyvale,
and
enjoy
a
vibrant
food
truck
scene,
and
instead
we
have
conversations
in
city
council
about
preventing
restaurants
in
Main,
Street
and
and
I'm
confused
I,
don't
know
if
the
council
members
actually
visit
and
spend
time
and
enjoy
with
other
restaurants.
G
B
H
B
H
It's
divisive
among
the
community,
its
profiling
of
the
Indian
Americans.
It
is
the
biased
and
pulling
our
kids
who
are
going
to
schools
and
the
colleges
it's
creating
the
hate
among
the
communities.
It
is
based
on
the
fall
sleeve
fabricated
data,
for
example.
If
you
see
the
recent
case,
which
has
been
dismissed
for
the
Cisco
by
the
court
itself,
so
the
bill
is
included
that
that
is
part
of
that.
It's
based
on
the
irrelevant
survey.
H
They
have
used
to
propose
the
bill
when
cities
like
Yuba
City,
are
passing
the
resolution
and
writing
the
letters
to
assembly
members
opposing
the
SP
403.
Why
not
Cupertino
city
can't
add
it
and
look
into
that?
First
of
all,
sending
the
email
followed
by
the
letters
rather
than
waiting
till
end
of
the
year,
so
I
request
an
urge,
the
mayor
and
the
city
council
member.
Please
look
into
that
and
expedite
the
communication.
Please
thank
you.
B
B
I
You
I'd
like
to
I'm
grateful
for
Rhoda's
comments
as
usual.
Sometimes
I
don't
agree
with
her
most
of
the
time.
I
do
but
I
know
that
she
always
takes
a
great
time
and
thought
and
has
good
background
when
she
speaks
I.
I
wasn't
going
to
say
anything
about
this,
but
it
came
up
so
here
I
am
from
my
perspective.
I
I
In
fact,
I
don't
know
that
there's
been
more
than
maybe
one
meeting
since
January
that
didn't
have
to
ask
for
extended
time
once
the
you
know
more
than
once
in
some
cases
once
the
the
subject
started
being
talked
about,
even
though
there
was
a
policy
this
end
at
a
certain
time
and
there's
a
cushion
for
adding
time,
because
sometimes
it's
needed.
Often
it's
needed
and
that's
been
shown
to
be
the
case.
Rushing
through
ideas
and
not
allowing
good
cooperation
is
not
helpful
for
anyone
I
also.
I
You
know
there
were
comments
at
the
beginning
that
each
of
the
council-
members,
which
is
great,
had
discussions
with
staff
ahead
of
time,
in
particular
about
Memorial,
Park
and
that's
great,
but
as
a
member
of
the
public
I
wish,
I
could
hear
some
of
those
questions
and
answered
so
that
I
could
form
my
questions
and
answers
better
when
giving
him
put
otherwise
I
feel
maybe
we're
cheated
out
of
being
inputting
things.
So
it's
a
it's
a
give
or
take
you
know
it's
good
in
one
way
and
not
another
I.
I
I
B
J
We
have
a
long-term,
arresting
and
I
think
some
people
probably
are
here
and
the
tragic
we
got.
Actually
it's
pretty
small
compared
a
lot
of
things
the
city
handle
or
some
other,
whatever
litigation
you
guys
could
developed
or
not,
so
we
we
kept
it
being
biased,
discriminated
and
the.
So
we
just
want
the
on
the
people
actually
understand
all
culture,
language
and
then
kind
of
Fairview
and
like
on
the
Sun
or
somebody
can
be
called
in
which
password
so
we
think
it
just
move
on.
J
We
usually
are
very
little
from
6th
or
four
seasons
longer
than
that,
and
so
I
know
to
follow
before
I
heard
that
and
the
wish
we
just
want
prospects
of
reference
as
a
result,
if
our
parents,
that
first
was
long
congression,
which
is
one
part
of
all,
respect
all
the
other
future
lessons,
whatever
the
all
the
restaurants
and
they
don't
have
with
them.
So
please
and
give
us
some
queer
people
we
can
talk
to
and
not
the
ones
actually
keeping
the
party
and
they're
and
again
again,
they
cut
it
again
again.
J
K
A
A
Okay,
so
item
seven,
eight
nine
have
been
pulled
anymore
on
the
diets
that
council
members
would
like
to
put
in
items.
If
not,
we
are
moving
item.
Seven,
eight,
nine,
after
the
public
hearing-
and
we
will
I,
would
like
to
have
a
motion
to
approve
items.
Number
two,
three,
four
five
and
six,
please
so.
M
A
K
A
G
B
N
Hi
I
anything
to
do
with
the
Lehigh
Quarry
needs
to
be
nailed
down
locked
down
written
down.
The
Quarry
has
been
there
the
entire
time.
I
was
a
child.
My
grandmother
was
fond
of
saying
that
when
she
worked
at
a
bank
in
Downtown
San
Jose,
she
was
there
at
the
time
that
the
original
owner
came
in
to
take
out
the
loan
to
purchase
the
property
and
I
believe
it
now
from
since
she
was
a
native
of
downtown
San
Jose
area,
but
I'm
really
concerned
about
what
will
happen
to
this
property.
N
N
I
I
really
do
not
want
this
land
cut
up.
We
were
fortunate
enough
to
have
one
of
the
Apple
Founders
transfer
the
Rana
Ranch
in
Carmel
Valley,
to
a
Conservancy
group.
If
we
have
to
do
that
with
this
Corey,
we
may
need
to
go
that
route.
Mid
pin
may
be
the
best
place
for
it.
I,
don't
think
we
should
be
sacrificing
this
property
to
put
housing
on
it.
It
is
in
a
high
fire
burn
area.
There
are
inadequate
roads
going
into
that
property.
N
You
have.
We've
had
fires
back
up
there
and
I'm,
really
getting
tired
I'm.
Sorry
of
everyone
is
trying
very
hard,
but
I
really
am
getting
tired
of
people
taking
advantage
of
this
property
and
playing
games
with
it.
It
is
no
place
for
high
density
housing.
Believe
me,
you
can't
even
get
fire
insurance.
State,
Farm
Etc
have
pulled
out
of
the
state
it's
for
political
issues.
So
that's
fine,
but
let's
don't
start
putting
areas
like
this
into
high
density
housing.
It's
not
appropriate.
Our
descendants
will
not
want
that.
N
If
San
Jose
can
protect
Coyote
Valley,
why
can't
we
protect
parts
of
Santa,
Clara,
County
I'm,
not
willing
to
sacrifice
this
property,
give
it
to
Rancho
San
Antonio,
make
it
part
of
that,
but
do
not
split
it
up,
don't
break
it
up.
Have
it
be
like
Rana
Ranch,
which
is
half
of
the
original
Presidio
from
1865
1845.?
I'm?
Sorry,
if
people
don't
like
the
history
of
California,
but
that's
the
truth.
Thank.
A
A
Okay.
Thank
you,
madam
secret.
Now
we
are
moving
to
item
number
10
public
hearing
and
I
like
to
open
the
public
hearing
for
subject
number
10,
consider
a
proposed
mixed-use
Redevelopment
project
consisting
of
34
residential
units
and
approximately
seven
four
eight
two
square
feet
of
commercial
space
and
as
described
in
the
agenda,
so
I'm
healing
over
open,
deep
public
comment
and
then
may
I
have
staff
report.
Please
thank.
L
You
mayor
wait,
so
we
have
a
presentation
prepared
by
John,
Mater
senior,
planner,
Lou,
Conley
assistant
director
and
also
a
company
by
benfu,
the
community
development
director.
We
have
a
short
presentation
of
Florida
Council,
but
we'll
be
here
to
answer
any
questions.
John
take
it
away.
Thank
you.
O
O
What
we
see
is
within
the
general
plan.
This
is
the
it's
within
the
South
De
Anza
special
area,
and
the
conceptual
plan
for
the
area
is
called
the
South
Saratoga
Sunnyvale
Road
conceptual
zoning
plan
a
little
bit
about
the
project
summary
there's
three
buildings
on
site:
there's:
building
a
which
is
the
mixed-use
multi-family
building
to
the
front
along
Pros
I'm.
Sorry,
along
South
the
ends
Boulevard.
O
Planning
Commission
heard
this
project
on
May
23rd
of
this
year
and
playing
commission
with
the
5-0
recommendation
on
that
date
that
it
was
that
city
council
adopt
the
m
d
and
resolutions
approving
the
project
as
well
as
including
the
following
modifications,
remove
condition,
13
and
amend
condition.
Seven
of
the
development
permit
I
do
want
to
add
that,
unfortunately,
in
the
last
minute,
review
of
the
development
program
resolution
condition
13
snuck
its
way
back
in,
although
the
condition
7
does
reflect
what
what
the
plan
commission
recommended.
O
O
Currently,
there's
four
curb
cuts
accessing
the
site,
two
along
South,
the
Anza
and
too
long
Prospect,
as
we
see
that
the
site
does
eliminate
two
of
those
curb
cuts
and
allow
just
one
on
on
both
streets
early
on
whatever
we
encourage
through
the
South
De,
Anza
conception,
I'm,
sorry,
South,
Saratoga,
Sunnyvale,
Road
conceptual
plan,
as
well
as
a
general
plan.
It's
interconnectivity
amongst
the
sites.
O
In
our
conversations
with
the
sheriff's
department,
we
came
to
the
conclusion
that,
having
that
connection
would
impair
their
operations
so,
instead
of
requiring
them
to
have
a
connection,
the
staff
has
conditioned
the
project
to
just
have
an
easement
there
for
future
connection.
If
the
same
can
require
for
the
property
to
the
north,
so
just
an
easement,
but
no
opening
will
be
conditioned
for
the
project
at
this
time,
architectural
design.
O
O
So
the
applicant
May
request
waiver
is
a
reduction
according
to
the
density
bonus
with
the
city
in
1956
as
well.
The
state's
mandate,
the
applicant
May,
request,
waivers
or
reduction
development
standards
that
will
have
the
effect
of
physically
precluding
construction
of
a
density
bonus
development.
O
So
this
is
a
quick
illustration
of
what
they're
asking
for
they're,
actually
asking
for
two
different
waivers
in
the
front:
they're
asking
for
a
front
setback
of
35
feet.
The
South
Saratoga
Road,
South,
Saratoga,
Centerville
Road
conceptual
plan
requires
a
50-foot
setback
at
least
average
a
50-foot
setback,
so
they're
asking
for
a
15
foot
reduction
in
that
waiver.
O
So
Desi
bonus
waiver
requests
and
justification
the
high
waiver,
essentially
in
the
in
the
justification
that
was
attached
to
a
staff
report
for
the
height
waiver.
It
was
assumed
that
12
units
would
be
loss
of
the
30-foot
height
weight
height,
limited
we're
in
force,
including
the
entire
third
floor
and
for
the
front
setback
waiver.
O
You
would
lose
approximately
three
units
per
floor
for
an
overall
combined
total
of
at
least
six
units
parking
analysis,
so
the
density
bonus
does
allow
statutory
parking
reductions
for
the
site
or
parking
rather
parking
Alternatives,
and
that
includes
not
just
a
reduction
in
parking.
The
amount
of
parking,
but
also
the
allowance
of
Tandem
parking
spaces
as
well,
which
the
applicant
is
requesting.
So
so
the
biggest
reduction
and
really
the
only
reduction
is
that
the
you
know
the
the
parking
orders
for
the
city
requires
2.8
parking
spaces
per
townhome
and
two
per
apartment.
O
You
know
to
in
response
to
a
few
members
of
the
community
that
live
to
the
west
of
the
project
site
the
staff
at
condition
the
treatment
will
permit
to
retain
as
best
as
much
as
possibly
the
developed,
the
the
grown,
the
mature
Italian
cypresses
along
the
west
and
property
line
for
privacy
protections
and
rear
yards
of
a
joint
single
family
residences.
You
know
both
the
cities
arborists
as
well
as
the
this
is
consultant
arborist
as
well
as
the
applicants
arborist,
you
know,
know
the
difficulty
for
maintaining
those
Italian
cypresses.
O
If
there's
with
some
of
the
grading
plans,
but
you
know
discussions
with
the
developer,
they
believe
there's
a
way
to
maintain
those
Italian
cypresses
to
to
keep
that
privacy
that
pretty
much
already
matured
privacy
screening
as
as
well
so
in
the
event
that
those
Italian
Cyprus
cannot
be
saved.
They
are
required
to
follow
the
city's
R1
privacy
screening
plans
again.
The
best
intent
of
map
is
the
11
parcel
for
town
homes
and
one
Parcels
for
a
misused
portion
of
development.
O
We
did
add
staff
did
ask
some
development
permit
conditions,
since
the
plan
commission
hearing
two
of
them
condition
40,
is
to
require
a
report
and
from
that
all
asbestos
containing
materials
will
be
removed
from
the
site
prior
to
demolition,
so
prioritizens
demolition
permits.
We
need
reports
from
a
asbestos
expert
that
those
will
be
remitted,
that
asbestos
will
be
remediate
from
the
site
as
well
as
lead-based
paints
as
well,
and
both
these
will
be
required
prior
to
demolition's
permits
being
issued.
O
So
again,
the
housing
accountability,
since
this
project
is
subject
to
the
housing
accountability
act,
the
council
May
disprove
project
only
if
the
project
would
have
a
specific
adverse
impact
upon
the
public,
health
or
safety
unless
a
project
is
disapproved
or
approved,
upon
the
condition
that
the
project
you
developed
at
a
lower
density
and
no
feasible
method
of
satisfactory
mitigate
or
avoid
the
versus
impact
exists
and
M
D
was
prepared
for
this
project.
We
do
have
two
consultant
groups
to
talk
about
the
m
d.
O
If
questions
are
asked,
we
do
have
place,
works
phoning
in
virtually
as
well
as
hexagon
who's
our
transportation
consultant.
The
city
can
rely
on
it.
So
what
was
found
in
the
ism
indeeds
of
the
city
can
rely
on
the
adopted
Environmental
Protection
standards,
which
is
our
chapters
recently
adopted
chapter
17.,
but
there
were
some
mitigations
measures
that
go
above
and
beyond
that.
O
The
ERC
on
October
20th
of
last
year
recommend
the
city
council,
Delta,
mnd,
5-0
I,
believe,
and
our
conclusion
is
that
staff's
conclusion
is
that
the
city
council
approve,
because
the
project
and
conditions
of
approval
address
concerns
related
to
proposed
development
and
all
findings
for
approval
of
the
proposed
project.
Consistent
with
chapters
14
1
8
1828
1956
19156
19168
of
the
Cupertino
missile
code
could
be
made
as
well
as
concerning
development's
height
and
front
setback.
A
P
Thank
you
for
the
presentation,
a
quick
question,
since
you
did
mention
the
housing
accountability.
Act
was
there
a
30-day
I,
don't
know
for
lack
of
a
better
term,
shot
clock
on
that,
and
when
did
that
start
and
finish
and
I
think
it's
when
the
application
was
deemed
complete.
But
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
know
that
information.
P
The
reason
is
that
I'm
not
really
sure
that
those
the
reasons
why
we
could
deny
based
on
haa
I,
don't
I,
think
the
shot
clocks
probably
already
come
and
gone
and
I
just
want
to
double
check
that
and
so
in
the
future,
because
it
this
did
happen
in
the
past,
where
the
shot
clock
came
and
went
before
it
went
before
the
ERC
for
a
couple
of
projects
and
I'm
just
curious
about
the
timeline
here.
Thank
you.
O
Sure
so
so
what
the
South
Saratoga
Sunnyvale
I'm
sorry
I,
keep
like
this.
Asthma
call
certificate,
probably
30
years,
but
the
South
Saratoga
Sunnyvale
real
conceptual
plan
requires
a
50-foot
average
setback,
so
they
can
go
within.
They
can't
have
a
points
of
the
setback,
be
35
feet
as
long
as
other
points
average
that
out
to
50
feet.
So
what
they're
asking
for
is
a
full
35
foot
setback
of
across
the
whole.
P
N
N
Last
year
we
had
an
ERC
meeting
and
it
was
well
attended
and
we
asked
questions
that
doesn't
mean
I
think
we
should
have
the
ERC
meeting
again.
Some
people
think
that
we
shouldn't
but
I'm
entitled
to
my
own
opinion,
I
think
this
project,
it's
not
a
housing
element
site
I,
did
see
in
the
Mercury
yesterday
that
San
Jose
has
put
many
of
the
properties
on
their
side
of
South
Johnson
Boulevard
into
their
housing
element.
N
That
means
that
the
Bank
of
America
property
directly
across
the
street,
from
this
site
potentially
could
go
to
20
stories
and
have
a
thousand
housing
units
on
it.
If
the
neighbors
are
unhappy
now
because
they
have
three-story,
townhouses
they're
going
to
be
looking
at
20
stories
and
I
guess:
zero
lot
line
set
back
from
Stevens
from
South
De,
Anza
Boulevard
they're
in
that
San
Jose's
problem.
But
it's
also
our
problem.
N
My
husband
grew
up
behind
the
wall
and
he
grew
up
in
San
Jose
in
1976,
the
properties
along
South
tianza
Boulevard
were
flipped
between
San
Jose
and
Cupertino.
Cupertino
got
the
homes
and
San
Jose
got
the
retail,
and
this
is
the
drama
we're
living
now.
You
also
have
a
South
dance,
Boulevard
Urban
Village,
that
San
Jose
has
and
there's
a
Prospect
Road
Urban
Village
San
Jose
is
saddled
with
75
000
Rena
housing
units
that
they're
having
to
build
and
they
seem
to
have
dumped
all
of
it
on
the
edge
of
Cupertino
I.
N
Don't
think
San
Jose
likes
Cupertino,
particularly,
but
this
is
the
living
drama
that
were
were
happening
now.
If
you
don't
like
that,
10-story
senior
housing
unit
with
zero
lot
line
at
85.,
what
the
heck
are
we
going
to
have
all
the
way
down:
San
Jose
side
of
De
Anza
Boulevard
we're
going
to
have
zero
lot
line
all
the
way
we
need
to
find
out
from
San
Jose
what
their
plans
are.
So
this
project
I'm
just
going
to
make
a
comment
on
this
townhouse
project.
Where
is
the
new
park?
N
B
E
I
was
blown
away
by
Jennifer's
testimony
as
usual
definitely
Echo.
Her
concerns
about
the
ERC
of
which
I
was
an
appointed
member.
I
thought
it
was
a
very
useful
body
and
it
allows
people
to
focus
on
the
project
and
ferret
out
issues
before
it
gets
the
Planning
Commission
before
it
gets
to
council,
so
I
would
urge
the
restitution
of
the
ERC.
E
The
second
thing,
I'm
very
concerned
about
is,
is
Italian
trees
that
are
on
the
edge
of
the
property
and
to
do
what
we
can
to
make
sure
that
they
will
survive
10
years
beyond
the
construction
of
the
project.
Sometimes
a
tree
can
get
damaged
through
construction
and
will
take
quite
some
time
for
it
to
exhibit
its
demise
and
I've
sent
in
my
written
comment,
also
on
other
items
as
well,
which
I
hope
you'll
read
tonight.
Thank
you.
A
You
Madison
Kirk
I'm,
going
to
close
the
public
comment
period
and
bring
it
back
to
council
for
discussion.
Council
members,
if
you
have
any
discussions,
can
raise
your
light,
if
not
I'll.
I'll
start
with
the
comment.
I
do
believe
this
is
a
very
well
designed
project
and
it
fits
into
the
neighborhood.
So
I,
really
like
it
and
I,
do
think
that,
though
we
have
a
little
control
over
all
a
neighbor
of
San
Jose
City,
but
we
do
have
our
Cupertino
of
developments.
A
R
So
yeah
thank
you
for
well
thought
out
design
and
the
great
stuff
Report
with
all
the
information,
and
thank
you
for
including
the
number
of
bedrooms
for
the
in
these
units,
and
my
question
is
regarding
parking
in
the
staff
report.
It
says
that
the
required
parking
is
like
a
hundred
and
seven,
but
then
in
the
presentation
it's
mentioned
that
the
required
is
99
and
98.99
is
provided
so
I'm
just
a
little
confused
on.
What's.
O
The
number
yeah
I
apologize
for
any
confusion
that
way
so
the
107
is,
is
what
will
be
required
if
the
applicant
were
to
go
strictly
by
the
municipal
code,
19
120
I
believe
the
98
that's
required
was
if
they
went
strictly
with
the
density
bonus.
That's
that's
with
the
density
bonus
alternative
standard,
essentially,
what
the
the
table
was
trying
to
say
was
they're
providing
99
instead
of
98,
so
essentially
going
once
providing
one
more
parking
space
above
what
they
would
be
required
statutorily
with
the
under
the
density.
Bonus,
ordinance.
R
L
R
R
A
M
O
A
O
Yeah
there
I
mean
that
is
a
concern
that
was
a
concern
brought
up
by
cities,
Consulting
arborists,
as
well
as
the
applicants
Harvest
as
well,
and
so
you
know
we
have
had
discussions
with
the
the
the
developers
architect
and
we
believe
there
are
ways
to
maintain
it.
I
mean
the
the
rear
yards
of
the
town.
O
However,
in
the
event
that
we
did
formulate,
we
did
create
the
condition
that
in
case
they
are
damaged
and
need
to
be
replaced
that
they
will
be
replaced,
in
conformance
with
the
city's
privacy
mitigation
plan
and
whatnot
and
I,
think
you
know,
I
think
any
further
questions
about
a
I,
don't
know
if
the
the
developers
architect
has
any
any
further
thought
on
ways
to
mitigate
any
damage.
At
this
point
or
or
whatnot,.
T
But
hi
good
evening,
yeah
I,
think
I
would
just
add
to
that
only
that
the
construction
management
plan,
part
of
the
condition
conditions
of
approval,
has
measures
for
tree
protection
in
place
and
that
that
requires
an
Arbors
to
be
on
site.
If
there
is
work,
that's
done
in
and
around
the
root
systems
of
the
trees,
to
do
everything
that
we
can
to
ensure
that
we
protect
those
trees,
because
it's
important
to
us
for
privacy
both
ways
both
in
and
out
of
the
project.
R
Thank
you,
that's
good
to
know,
and
another
question
is
I.
Think
a
concern
brought
up
by
another
developer
was
the
archaeological
resource
requirement
was
very
stringent
for
their
project.
They
had
to
spend
a
lot
extra
dollars
to
fulfill
that
requirement.
So
I'm
wondering
what's
the
requirement
for
this
project.
O
A
U
P
Just
wonder
how
this
is
going
to
be
monitored,
because
it's
supposed
to
be
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
the
city?
How
would
we
know
and
will
we
get
some
sort
of
feedback,
because
this
is
a
this
is
a
mitigation
measure.
We
should
be
getting
some
feedback
on
this,
so
when,
when
are
we
going
to
hear
about
how
this
is
working
and
is
there
by
the
way-
because
it
mentions
this
online
kiosk
and
web
page
with
the
current
School
pool
pool
program?
O
Great
questions
you
know
this.
These
VMT
mitigation
measures
are
are
brand
new
for
all
of
us,
so
this
is
the
first
project
in
the
city.
That's
subject
to
these,
and
so
we're
all
kind
of
treading
new
water
here,
and
we
know
we
do
have
our
you
know
our
placeworks
online,
as
well
as
hexagon,
to
dive
further
to
details.
If,
if
I'm,
either
going
off
track
or
not
going
detailed
enough,
school
districts
wouldn't
be
maintaining
these
websites,
it
would
essentially
be
the
the
the
the
project
coordinator
that
has
identifying
m
d.
O
You
know
with
with
this
project
scite
there
would
be
an
HOA,
so
assuming
someone
who's
managing
the
HOA
would
be
that
that
transportation
coordinator
on
site
and
again
this
is
these-
are
all
things
that
we
we
would
request.
We
require,
rather
of
the
developer
prior
to
any
issues
of
building
permits.
So
it's
gonna,
it's
good.
It's
gonna
take
time.
This
is
something
that's
new
that
we're
all
learning
kind
of
all
together
with
and
whatnot,
as
well
as
hexagon
and
our
consultant
as
well
as
placeworks
too.
So.
O
This
is
something
that
you
know,
hopefully,
that
we
can
set
a
good
base
for
any
future
projects
coming
coming
down
the
pike
in
terms
of
how
we're
going
to
be
reviewing
these,
you
know
they're,
so
the
negation
measures
require
within
the
first
six
months
that
we
can
report
as
well
as
the
first
after
12
months.
We
get
another
report
and
after
that,
it's
it's
on
an
annual
basis.
O
Now,
if
we,
if
we
determine
if,
if
the
applicants
I'm
sorry
if
the
developers
consultant
traffic
traffic
traffic
size
done
by
their
consultant
and
peer-reviewed
by
us,
showed
that
VMT
has
not
been
reduced,
then
we,
the
mitigation
measures,
require
give
flexibility
for
staff
to
try.
Other
programs
are
part
of
the
vta's
list
of
mitigation
measures
to
reduce
VMT.
P
Through
the
mayor
also,
there
was
the
the
electrical
bicycle
program:
electric
bike
program
and
I-
assume
that
these
bicycles
you're
going
to
have
to
monitor
this
as
well.
There's
supposed
to
be
a
reservation
system
that
the
that
the
owners
are
going
to
need
to
provide
and
and
the
cities
has
to
check
in
on
this
again
through
the
satisfaction
of
the
city
of
Cupertino.
So
are
you
going
to
be
photographing?
These
bicycles
have
some
notation
of
what
kind
of
bikes
are?
Are
they
really
between
1500
and
2500
through.
L
The
mayor
by
May
council
member,
more
those
are
great
questions,
as
you
alluded
to
earlier.
Vmt
is
a
new
mitigation
to
the
planning
world,
so
all
of
these
are
going
to
be
fall
on
the
developer
and
the
operator
to
provide
a
six
month
or
a
one
year
or
annual
compliance
report
to
the
staff
to
verify
that
they
have
demonstrated
compliance
with
not
only
just
the
conditions
of
approval
and
mitigation
measures.
L
P
Thank
you,
but
it's
to
the
satisfaction
of
the
city
of
Cupertino,
so
you're
going
to
have
to
make
sure
that
you
have
this
information,
and
can
we
well
I
would
say
we
can
expect
to
see
this
moving
ahead
on
future
projects.
This
is
just
the
start
of
this
sort
of
thing
that
we're
going
to
be
seeing
in
these
agreements
is
that
right
as
well:
correct,
okay,
so
new
territory
and
get
used
to
it
all
right?
Thank
you.
P
A
U
A
A
L
Mayor
mayway,
we
do
not
have
a
staff
report,
we
do
not
have
a
staff
presentation,
we
do
have
a
staff
report
included
in
your
packet,
so
I'll
provide
a
very
quick
summary.
Every
quarter.
I
am
obligated
to
provide
a
TBD
list
for
Council
to
provide
further
Direction
on
when
to
place
such
discussion
on
our
calendar
and
whether
or
not
such
conversation
has
taken
place
over
the
course
of
last
quarter.
L
A
R
R
The
staff
recommendations
is
to
consider
that
at
the
end
of
the
year,
but
I
believe
that
is
moving
through
the
legislators
and
then
we'll
be.
The
bill
will
be
voted
on
in
July
on
so
by
the
end
of
the
year.
It
is
already
signed
by
the
governor
or
vetoed
I.
Don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen
so
just
the
timeline.
We
need
to
consider
timeline.
Yeah.
A
P
Okay,
thank
you.
So,
looking
at
an
agenda
packet,
PDF,
296
or
page
one
of
the
report,
I
was
just
wondering
what
the
thinking
was
regarding
items
two
and
three.
So
those
are
both
Senate
bills
and
we
did
already
look
at
I
believe
earlier
this
year
as
Senate
bill
and
took
a
position
and
we
took
a
position
on
a
a
constitutional
amendment
already.
P
L
Sure,
through
the
mayor
council,
member
Moore,
that
was
a
great
question.
So
the
thinking
behind
that
is
that
we
actually
have
a
very
packed
agenda
planned
out
through
almost
after
Thanksgiving.
There
will
be
not
a
enough
room
to
accommodate
two
extra
study
sessions
on
these
two
legislations.
At
this
moment,.
P
Pardon
through
the
mayor,
so
we
schedule
another
meeting
to
make
sure
that
we
take
care
of
those
items
so
that
we
get
them
into
this
year's
cycle
and
we
don't
miss
it
because
there's
a
potential
that
they
both
get
signed
into
law
at
the
end
of
September.
And
so
what?
What's
the
thinking
to
not
review
these
items
before
they
would
potentially
go
to
the
governor.
So.
L
A
R
This
is
a
question
I
think
the
agenda
setting
is
determined
not
only
by
staff
but
by
the
mayor,
also
right
and
then
earlier
in
the
year.
I
think
we
have
a
packet
agenda
in
every
meeting,
but
we
did
take
position
on
some
bills,
so
yeah
I
think
that's
a
question
on.
What's
a
rationale
for
what
we
do
putting
the
agenda
when
we
have
packed
agenda
and
what
do
we
do.
A
B
A
N
Griffin
welcome
good
evening
city
council.
This
is
the
danger
of
why
the
legislative
Review
Committee
was
taken
away.
It
wants
to
Shield
Cupertino
from
the
danger
of
these
bills.
Well,
I
can
tell
you
we
are
entering
some
of
the
most
undemocratic
loss
of
control
from
these
housing
bills.
S
423
I
have
to
be
involved
because
it's
trying
to
get
rid
of
the
coastal
commission.
N
My
mother's
house,
is
within
the
coastal
Conservancy
of
Santa
Cruz
County
and
I
can
tell
you
that
right
below
her
Seacliff
Dan
Seacliff
Beach
sustained
50
percent
of
the
entire
budget
of
damage
for
the
state
parks
in
California.
It
was
destroyed
so
now
we're
going
to
get
as
sit
and
it's
Senator
winner
again
sb423
we're
supposed
to
take
away
the
coastal
commission
from
Mendocino
down
to
San
Diego.
You
know
people
are
dying
to
build
on
that
land.
They
will
die
the
people
who
live
on
that
land.
N
N
Today,
talking
about
SB
423,
yes,
it
is
a
potential
lethal
bill
and
the
governor
will
sign
it
in
September,
so
we
can
be
like
little
ostriches
and
hide
our
head
in
the
sand
and
review
it
in
December
and
be
victims
like
we
have
been
since
September
of
2017
when
the
first
Senator
weiner
housing
bill
got
thrust
upon
us
and
yes,
I
was
quoted
in
an
English
newspaper
about
that
right
from
the
lobby.
Well,
I'm!
Sorry,
the
rubber
hits
the
road
here.
N
N
It
also
extends
SB
35
in
perpetuity,
so
we'll
be
fighting
about
Valco
until
2040.,
so
I,
don't
know
where
Senator
weiner
is
getting
off,
trying
to
think
that
he
runs
California,
but
he
sure
is
endangering
every
resident
of
this
state
and
there
and
he
wants
to
seek
higher
office.
He
wants
to
go
to
Washington.
D.C
I
sure
hope
that
that
never
happens.
Thank
you.
Thank.
B
E
The
other
thing
is
gee,
I,
I
sure
wish
staff
could
just
be
straight
up
and
just
say:
look.
We
don't
want
to
take
a
position
on
these
bills.
That
would
be
much
more
clear
to
the
public
and
I
also
have
a
question
it's
unclear
to
me
as
to
where
things
landed
about
taking
another
look
at
the
sign
ordinance
because,
as
you
know,
we
had
quite
a
bit
of
difficulty
with
the
public
storage
sign
in,
and
there
had
been
discussion
about
looking
at
the
ordinance
and
improving
it.
G
G
G
Loving
communities
in
the
United
States
as
being
discriminatory,
is,
is
quite
ironical,
and
we
expect
of
all
the
cities,
Cupertino
and
other
cities
in
Santa
Clara
County
to
be
supporting
us,
so
I
hope
we
can
get
the
support
of
all
of
you
all
five
of
you
to
overrule
the
poor
Judgment
of
city
manager
in
not
respecting
the
request
of
a
majority
demographic
in
the
city,
to
show
your
support
by
agendaizing
this
item
and
placing
a
resolution
in
opposition
of
SB
403.
Thank
you.
A
Q
My
question
was
sort
of
procedural
because
I'm
not
quite
sure
how
this
process
works,
and
maybe
the
City
attorney
could
help
me
out
for
SP
403.
What
what
options
do
we
have?
We
can
place
it
on
the
agenda,
or
can
we
issue
like
a
proclamation
or
a
some
kind
of
a
letter
or
communication
to
the
state
opposing
SP
403?
Q
K
So
I
just
to
clarify
that
that,
in
this
meeting
you
know
in
these
individual
items
are
not
on
the
agenda,
so
you
know
Council,
cannot,
you
know
really
discuss
or
deliberate
on
the
merits
of
any
of
these
items
is
really.
The
point
is
to
to
express
an
opinion
as
whether
they
should
move
forward
on
a
future
agenda
item.
If,
if
Council
wishes
to
take
a
position
on
SB
403,
that
would
have
to
be
agendized
at
a
council
meeting
and
voted
on
by
a
majority
of
council.
K
F
Q
L
Sure
so,
through
the
mayor,
we
could
definitely
see
if
any
other
agenda
upcoming
month
could
fit
into
a
item
like
this.
We
will
be
working
with
the
city
attorney's
office
and
also
the
lobbyists
to
track
this
bill
and
provide
a
summary
and
to
provide
a
I
guess,
a
a
status
of
which
organization
is
in
opposition
or
in
support
of
the
bill,
so
that
would
take
a
either
study
session
or
an
action
by
the
council.
L
Q
R
K
R
R
R
R
P
Okay,
thank
you.
I
I
do
if
that
was
a
feeling,
a
sentiment
that
you
were
expressing
council
member
Chow
that
certain
council
members
are
being
treated
differently.
I
would
agree
with
that.
Ordinarily,
two
council
members
are
able
to
put
an
item
on
the
agenda
and,
in
this
time,
council,
member
chow
and
I
made
requests
which
are
in
the
staff
report,
and
one
was
for
SB
423,
which
impacts
SB
35,
which
will
impact
our
city
directly
and
the
other
one
was
SB
403,
which
appears
to
impact
the
majority
of
our
residents
and
we've.
P
We've
heard
a
lot
of
requests
to
to
have
SB
403
also
addressed
today
and
what's
happening
in
this
particular
staff
recommendation.
Is
that
staff
recommended
that
our
requests
be
removed
and
then
brought
it
to
the
council
and
then
the
request
that
we
made,
which
ordinarily
would
have
put
our
agenda
item
requests
in
the
queue
are
here
to
be
voted
against
so
that
we
we
don't.
We've
lost
our
rights,
basically
to
put
items
on
the
agenda,
and
that's
troubling
I'm,
also
troubling
troubled
by
the
statement
that
this
legislation
is
moving
quickly.
P
A
Thank
you,
councilman
Moore,
so
I'm
going
to
ask
a
couple
questions.
The
first
is
our
city
council
procedures
manual
does
specify
that
the
proposed
agenda
items
will
be
can
be
put
on
the
discussion,
for
if
three
council
members
don't
approve
it,
it
would
be
off.
Is
that
what
our
city
council,
City
Council
many
procedures
menu?
That's
been
passed.
K
Yeah,
so
the
city,
the
the
the
city
manager's
report,
is
consistent
with
their
obligations
under
the
procedures
manual,
which
states
that
she's
required
to
provide
a
quarterly
report
to
council,
which
may
include
a
request
to
remove
items
from
the
future,
the
list
of
future
agenda
items,
and
so
so
that
is
consistent
with
with
what's
contemplated
by
the
procedures
manual.
Thank.
A
You
so
I
like
to
clarify
that
I
do
not
believe
our
city
council,
city
managers,
trying
to
you,
know
downplay
other
any
council
members
proposed
agenda
items.
The
second
one
is
it
is
when
the
proposed
agenda
items
is
approved.
It
is
up
to
the
city,
manager
and
mayor
to
put
it
on
which
date
because
I
remember
our
formal
mayor,
Paul
had
a
long
list
of
items
and
that's
because
we
couldn't
get
to
it.
So
is
that
what
consistent
with
our
city
code.
K
K
And
so
so,
I
don't
think
that
would
be
inconsistent
with
our
our
rules
of
procedure,
but
the
the
rules
of
procedure
do
contemplate
that
the
the
mayor
and
and
city
manager
collaborate
to
develop
the
agenda
and
and
do
require
city
manager
approval
for
any
agenda
item
that
requires
preparation
of
a
staff
report.
Thank.
A
You
I
actually
like
to
commence
City
Manager
for
bring
this
to
us
because
I
remember
the
previous
years.
We
didn't
even
know
what
items
were
under
to
be
determined
list.
So
I
think
we
are.
You
know
bringing
this
to
everyone
to
discuss.
I
like
that.
I
want
to
thank
City
Manager
for
doing
that,
and
so
my
third
question
is
every
one
of
us,
as
a
city
council
can
write
to
the
legislators
representing
ourselves
like
any
bills.
A
Ves,
so
I
want
to
State
one
one
time
that
when
the
the
the
council
brought
in
they
us
to
vote
to
right
to
cusd
to
oppose
their
school
closing
and
I
was
the
Lone
person
that
really
did
not
want
to
do
it.
I
want
to
appreciate
council
member
John
Willy
at
that
time.
He
thinks
that
things
like
this
need
to
a
5-0.
That's
just
I
mean
I'm,
expressing
my
my
appreciation
for
that.
A
Also
I
do
believe
that
we
have
our
own
right
to
write
as
council
members
or
mayor
of
vice
mayor,
but
to
pass
a
resolution
like
this
I
appreciate
former
mayor
council
member
John
Willy's
sentiment
that
it
needs
to
be
a
5-0,
so
I
am
more
inclined
to.
Let
us
write
our
own
letters
and
express,
or
maybe
five
of
us
can
write
out
our
own
letters
to
oppose
or
approve
certain
resolutions.
Unless
I
can
see
a
certain
resolution
to
oppose
or
approve
a
pending
bill
can
have
a
fight.
A
Q
Q
P
R
Yeah
I
think
the
decision
today
is
whether
or
not
to
schedule
an
item
on
the
agenda,
and
it
seems
we
shouldn't
be
deciding
on
that
based
on.
Oh,
whether
the
agenda
will
get
a
5-0
or
not
I.
Think
if
we
decide
on
that,
we
are
basically
having
a
substantive
discussion
today
on
those
items
that's
not
allowed
today,
so
this
decision
should
basically
just
be.
R
Is
there
a
significant
Community
interest?
Should
we
have
a
public
discussion
on
that
I
we
may
or
may
not,
even
if,
when
I'm
motion
for
something
to
be
agenda,
is
I
may
or
may
not
support
the
bill?
Maybe
I
want
with
support
with
amendment
I,
don't
know,
and
but
it
warrants
a
public
discussion
and
another
item.
That
I
would
like
some
comment
from
the
other
council
members
is
item
number
seven
which,
on
the
recommendation,
is
awaiting
Council
Direction.
R
A
You,
yes,
obviously,
today
is
the
session
that
we
want
to
discuss
whether
we
want
to
put
that
on
a
future
agenda
items
or
not
so
we're
not
getting
into
the
whys
and
the
reasons.
So
we
we
all
know
that
it's
on
there.
So
what
is
the
any?
Do
we
have
any
motions
or
council?
Member
from
you
haven't
said
anything
I
didn't
want
to
put
you
on
the
plot,
but
hopefully.
A
L
A
P
Thank
you.
So
we've
cut
out
what
perhaps
might
be
a
record
number
of
meetings
this
year,
so
I
I
think
that
we
have
plenty
of
time
where
SB,
403
and
SB
423
can
be
brought
to
the
council
and
allow
the
public
to
State
what
their
opinions
are
and
hear
what
they're
elected
have
for
opinions
on
those
items
and
I
am
deeply
deeply
disappointed
that
we
are
receiving
this.
This
lack
of
support
for
our
Democratic
process.
Thank
you.
R
For
the
staff
recommendation
and
thank
you
Steph
for
bringing
this
really
nice
table
and
making
recommendations
on
each
item,
it's
really
appreciated.
I
forgot
to
mention
that,
and
this
I,
like
this
new
process,
that
we
have
a
quality
report
on
2bd
list.
This
is
great
and
then
and
yeah.
So
the
motion
is
the
staff
recommendation
Plus
on
number
seven,
as
mentioned
by
council
member
Foolin,
to
bring
it
back
in
December
this
as
I
remember
from
City
attorney.
We
can.
R
We
need
to
set
the
same
standard
for
every
development,
so
we
can
pick
and
choose
so
it
should
be
simple
and
then
also
that
in
the
motion
I'd
like
to
include
that
we
bring
the
two
bills
back
to
the
council
sometime
in
July,
so
that
there
is
time
for
the
city
residents
to
at
least
see
a
deliberation
between
the
councils,
and
so
these
bills
are
important
to
our
residents
and
they
will
affect
them
their
life
significantly.
So
I
think
they
deserve
us
take
time
to
discuss
these
bills.
Thank
you.
P
P
S
A
A
place
to
discuss
anything.
Thank
you
so
I'm
going
to
put
into
my
comment
when
I
said
the
5-0
I
didn't
mean
that
only
the
five
zero
would
come
to
council.
I
just
said,
I
appreciate
what
formal
city
council,
member
John
Willy's,
you
know
accommodating
of
my
not
wanting
not
not
approving
that,
and
also
I
want
to
say
that
we
are
not
stopping
the
public,
making
any
comments.
If
even
we
don't
put
this
on
the
agenda,
I
mean
public
has
emailed
us
and
they
can
ask
us.
A
A
You
know
and
I've
read
see
the
attorneys
analysis
on
on
it's,
especially
on
the
four
which
one
is
the
anyway.
So
my
comment
is
I
would
like
us
to
really
do
it
ourselves.
We're
not
stopping
the
public
from
making
any
comments
and
or
approach
us
or
I,
actually
met
with
a
group
of
our
Indian
American
residents
and
really
had
a
good
discussion
of
it
and
learned
from
their
perspectives.
So
it's
not
about
whether
we're
brave
enough
or
not
is
I.
A
A
K
A
M
I
know
I
was
just
going
to
to
mention
you
know
if
you
look
up
the
the
bills
on
their
way
through
the
legislature,
you
will
find
analysis
at
each
stage
at
each
vote
and
it
will
indicate
to
you
pros
and
cons.
It
will
indicate
to
you
reasons
to
support
reasons,
to
oppose
from
Advocates
on
both
sides
and
that's
the
case
for
both
of
these
bills.
R
K
K
K
I
I
guess
yeah.
Well,
it
depends
on
what
it
is,
but
yeah
if
something
something
that
has
not
been
provided
I
would
whatever.
If
Council
directs
the
the
staff
to
bring
legislation
for
Council
to
take
a
position,
we
will
try
to
provide
as
much
information
as
possible
to
allow
you
to
make
an
informed
decision
if
something
is
not
coming
before.
Council
I
would
only
provide
that
information
if
it
were.
K
K
F
U
K
Q
L
K
The
research
is
certainly
doable,
I.
Think
it's
more
of
a
a
of
this
time
on
Tuesday
evenings
or
Wednesday
evening
in
this
case
is
valuable.
Real
estate
and
the
city
manager
is
concerned
about
taking
that
up
with
taking
that
up.
Taking
that
up
with
controversial
issues
that
are
are
largely
not
related
to
the
pending
business
before
the
city.
A
B
Is
to
it's
for
the
staff,
it's
to
move
the
staff
recommendation
and
modify
accept
the
modifications
to
the
list.
That's
recommended
below
and
bring
back
item
seven
expanding,
noticing
requirement
from
300
to
500
feet
and
bring
back
item
two
Senate
Bill
SB,
423
and
item
three
Senate
Bill
SB
403
sometime
in
July.
A
Q
L
R
K
L
Well,
just
to
give
you
a
preview
to
council,
so
we
are
bringing
the
housing
element
back
in
July,
which
will
take
a
substantial
amount
of
staff
work
to
be
able
to
bring
a
meaningful
study
session
back
to
council,
and
we
also
have
a
number
of
Big
Ticket
item
lined
up
for
the
month
of
July.
But
if
Council
desires
is
to
place
these
two
items
for
the
month
of
July,
we'll
make
it
happen.
R
A
A
A
A
P
Is
it
the
city,
the
city's
procedure,
to
truncate
those
written
Communications
and
not
bring
them
forward,
or
is
it
the
city's
policy
to
continue
those
items
on
because
I
I
have
the
email
that
we
were
sent
for
the
previous
meeting
on
this
item
and
I'm
not
sure
it
actually
was
brought
forward?
So
that's
just
a
basic
question
are:
does
the
city
bring
these
written
Communications
forward?
When
an
item
is
continued,
it
seems
unfair
if
we
weren't
to
do.
B
So
I
can
answer
that
the
public
comments
for
every
meeting
serve
as
a
record
for
that
specific
meeting.
So
therefore
they
are
not
carried
back
carried
over
to
the
next
meeting.
Any
additional
comments
for
that
subsequent
meeting
will
be
included
in
the
public
record
and
published
as
part
of
the
public
record.
For
that
specific
meeting.
F
P
They
need
to
resend
those
written
Communications
in
okay,
so
I
I
took
the
written
Communications
in
just
and
just
forwarded
to
all
of
us,
so
I'll,
let
you
know
what
was
written
and
I've
got
my
five
minutes,
so
this
is
from
member
of
the
public
Peggy
Griffin.
Pardon
me
for
the
record
I'd
like
this
email
in
the
following
text
to
be
placed
in
written
Communications
for
item
two
approval
of
the
May
16th
2023
minutes
to
clarify
exactly
my
concerns.
P
I'd
like
to
bring
these
violations
listed
below
to
your
attention
in
the
May
16
2023
Cupertino,
Council
agenda.
It
includes
the
March
2023
monthly
Treasures
report
agenda,
item
18,
which
is
late
and
violates
both
Cupertino
municipal
code
and
the
California
state
law.
This
is
not
the
first
time
since
December
2022.
They
are
continually
late,
one
violation
of
Municipal
Code,
section,
2.24.030
monthly
reports
in
California
government
code,
section
41004,
the
city's
Municipal
Code,
section,
2.24,
dot,
o30
monthly
report
States
the
treasurer
shall
make
monthly
reports
which
conform
to
the
requirements
of
government
code.
P
R
P
Forward
in
May,
so
the
statement
that
you
probably
are
looking
for
is
the
May
16th
Council
agenda
item
17
receive
the
monthly
treasurer's
investment
report
for
March
and
April
the
March
2023
monthly
Treasures
investment
report
is
late
because
it's
May
17th,
so
I
just
wanted
to
I.
Think
that
this
member
of
the
public
has
brought
something
important
to
our
attention,
especially
in
light
of
other
things,
and
so
it's
you
will
have
it
in
the
written,
Communications
and
I
hope
you
review
it.
Thank
you.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
and
I
think
we're
on
a
question
part
right
now.
So
any
more
questions
on
the
before
I
open
up
to
public
comment.
If
there
are
no
more
questions,
I'd
like
to
open
up
the
public
comment,
please
because
we
still
need
to.
We
didn't
talk
about
this,
so
this
is
going
to
be
a
public
comment.
So
I'm
opening
up
the
public
comment
right
now
and
do
we
have
cards.
B
C
E
However,
the
next
meeting
when
that
got
split,
the
recommendation
that
I
was
referring
to
was
a
recommendation
from
a
report
and-
and
it
was
talking
about
doing
things
in
a
proactive
manner,
but
then
what
happened
was
is
that
when
it,
the
the
issue
came
to
be
voted
on?
Suddenly
there
were
punitive
measures
that
came
about
and.
K
E
K
K
E
I
I
have
and
I
I
think
that
I
I,
you
know
I'm
just
y'all
win
if
the
administrative
record
might
not
be
correct
and
I
also
want
to
concur
with
what
council
member
Moore
has
discussed.
It's
really
important
that
we
get
the
administrative
record
correct
and
I
think
that
there's
a
way
that
moving
forward
residents
can
work
around
that,
and
that
is
by
providing
their
own
summaries
and
being
a
little
more
specific
I.
A
Do
think
city
manager
means
that
this
isn't
City
attorney
means.
This
is
not
only
agenda
for
discussion,
so
we
have
a
chance
to
maybe
doing
oral
Communications
and
to
express
that.
So
he
would
think
that
we
should
limit
to.
We
actually
need
to
limit
to
what
would
you
like
the
minutes
to
be
changed
right.
E
G
Thank
you
city
council.
Firstly,
I
want
to
thank
vice
mayor
Sheila
Mohan
for
standing
on
the
right
side
of
the
previous
issue,
and
I
will
go
on
to
the
next
item
before
I'm
corrected
here.
I
would
like
to
call
to
your
attention
the
minute
reference.
My
public
comment
from
the
last
City
meeting
on
the
method
of
the
city
surveys
and
during
that
item
the
city
manager
took
the
item
offline,
saying
she
will
address
it
with
the
concerned.
G
Resident
and
I
have
not
seen
anything
come
out
of
that
and
I
wish
to
call
out
that
that
minute
should
be
modified
to
reference
to
the
city
manager
offered
to
take
it
offline
with
the
resident,
and
that
has
not
happened.
The
reason
I
bring
this
back
up
is
because
surveys
drive
an
inordinate
amount
of
discussion
and
cost
for
everyone
involved.
It's
really
important
to
put
all
issues
on
the
table
on
a
survey
and
make
sure
the
survey
methodologies
are
fair
and
balanced,
and
the
public
input
is
gathered
across
a
wide
spectrum
of
society.
When
some.
K
G
B
N
Good
evening
city
council
I'm
just
going
to
start
out
that
I
feel
concerned
that
there
were
times
that
I
had
questions
about
consent,
calendar
items
and
they
were
never
heard
that
night
and
then
they
showed
up
again.
Maybe
later
I
was
either
not
here
or
not
prepared.
So
it's
led
to
Great
confusion.
I
know
someone
who
wrote
the
note
earlier
is
not
here
tonight
because
they're
on
vacation
so
I,
you
know
you
can
cut
me
off.
Mr
attorney,
there's
been
23
years
that
I
have
had
in
these
council
chambers.
N
A
You
Madison
Kirk
thanks
for
the
public
comments.
We
do
have
a
council
city
council,
meeting
procedures
menu
that
we
followed.
If
we
didn't
finish
it,
we
put
it
to
the
next
meeting.
So
I
am
sorry
that
it
caught
some
confusion.
So
we
are
gonna
I'm,
closing
the
public
comment
and
bringing
back
to
the
council.
So
the
the
the
decision
is
to
approve
the
May
16
city
council
minutes.
R
R
So
I
finally
found
on
the
road
as
email
sent
to
the
council
last
in
when
this
was
first
on
the
consent.
It
was
June
6..
This
is
a
her
email
sent
to
the
council
that
she
requests
a
amend
at
the
minute.
In
with
the
following
statement.
Rhoda
fry
opposed
some
report.
Findings
and
I
can
read
their
part.
Wait.
Let
me
Erasure
something
with.
R
R
So
that's
what
she
would
like
the
mean
to
need
to
be
I,
think
amended
to
and
I
remember,
on
Peggy
Griffin
at
the
time
also
submitted
the
recommended
Amendment
to
the
minutes,
but
I'll
need
to
find
them.
Therefore,
when
we
continue
an
item,
it
will
be
nice
if
these
comments
could
be
carried
forward.
Thank
you.
A
A
Believe
Kirsten,
you
read,
you
listen
to
tapes
and
do
your
minutes
so
I
am
not
in
favor
of
changing
the
minutes
and
and
or
have
residence
or
council
members
start
to
write
our
own
minutes
to
tell
Kirsten
what
to
say
so
that
that's
just
my
comment
and
and
so
we
do
have
this
item,
and
so
do
we
want
to
approve
this
May
16th,
City
minutes
or
not.
I.
Think
that's
on
the
that's
the
subject
to
discuss.
M
R
R
Yeah,
okay,
so
this
is
the
the
other
email
from
Peggy
Griffin.
Regarding
the
May
6
meeting
minutes,
she
feels
the
state.
The
statement
in
the
minute
does
now
reflect
her
specific
concern.
I
think
she
sent
the
email
for
the
last
council
meeting
and
request
was
to
rephrase
the
comment
as
such
that,
oh
sorry,.
R
Please
rephrase
it
to
read:
Peggy
Griffin
was
concerned
about
the
continued
non-compliance
of
accounts
payable
and
treacherous
report
to
both
state
and
municipal
code
regarding
their
time
link
delivery
to
council,
so
these
were
sent
into
the
Council
on
for
the
June
6
meeting,
when
we
were
first
considering
May
17th
meeting
minutes.
Thank
you.
A
P
A
A
A
So
I
just
want
to
make
again.
My
comment
is
I.
Do
believe
that
we
are
not
going
to
let
it's
not
a
good
practice
for
residents
and
council
members
to
start
correct
minutes.
My
recommendation
is
perhaps
when
we
make
public
comments
or
council
members,
we
can
probably
can
write
down
their
public
comments
and
turn
it
into
us
so
that
we
have
sort
of
a
written
thing
to
go
with
it,
so
that
that
is
not
that
I.
A
Don't
trust,
Peggy,
Griffin
and
rotifies
to
you
know
what
they
say
so
I
just
think
that
we
should
really
not
start
to
go
back
to
back
and
forth
on
this
and
if
I
listen
correctly,
I
think
rodified
does
say
that
she
was
okay
with
it.
Correct
me,
if
that's
that's,
not
right,
okay,
so,
but
anyway,
that
is
my
comment.
Council
member,
you
have
a
comment.
M
Yeah
I
really
don't
want
to
get
in
in
the
way
of
the
ministerial
Judgment
of
the
city
clerk
I
think
that
we're
starting
to
enter
very
dangerous
territory.
If
we're
making
a
lot
of
ad
hoc
changes.
If
we
are
going
to
make
a
change,
it
should
be
reserved
for
something
that
is
extraordinary.
This
is
not
something
extraordinary
to
your
point.
With
respect
to
Mrs
Fry's
comments,
she
put
up
a
slide
at
the
time.
A
L
Do
not
have
a
staff
presentation,
we
do
have
the
report
that
was
included
as
an
informational
item
for
a
council
for
consideration
in
May
and
it
was
requested
by
Council
to
put
on
a
consent
calendar.
Therefore,
we
carry
the
same
report
to
the
June
6
council
meeting
and
there
we
are
so
we're
here
and
with
the
finance
I'm
sorry,
administrative
Services,
director
Alfaro
in
our
finance
purchasing
man,
no
financing
manager
here
to
answer
any
questions
very.
A
A
R
Council,
member
yeah-
hey
thank
you
for
being
here,
so
this
is
an
annual
report
that
the
city
prepare
every
year
right
that,
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
correct
it's
an
annual
report
and
so
I
think
the
I
pulled
this
item
because
there
were
some
comments
from
the
residents
that
some
description
of
certain
things
might
not
be
accurate.
It
may
not
reflect
on
what
we
are
today
I'm
guessing
those
descriptions
probably
are
carried
forward
from
previous
years.
So
I
wonder:
what's
the
process
used
to
update
this
kind
of
report
every
year.
V
So
we
go
through
an
extensive
process
of
in
terms
of
the
financials.
We
have
our
external
Auditors
that
work
on
the
financials
along
with
staff.
We
also
make
sure
the
report
is
reviewed
by
Community
Development
staff,
Economic
Development
staff
for
any
of
the
businesses
and
things
that
are
named
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
this
document
can
be
a
bit
confusing,
because
it's
a
look
back
document
and
when
we're
looking
back
in
time
and
also
when
we're
talking
about
certain
things
that
have
happened,
sometimes
reporting
is
behind
as
well.
V
So
when
we're
reporting
on
something
the
public
may
have
seen
that
something
has
changed
or
closed
and
that
that
that's
true
but
those
dollars
or
that
reporting
is
still
coming
in
to
that
year,
that
we're
looking
at,
and
so
it
can
be
a
little
confusing.
But
when
we
look
at
it,
we
look
at
it
in
terms
of
when
did
we
receive
the
information,
and
was
it
valid
for
that
year
that
we're
looking
at
specifically
so.
R
For
example,
this
report
is
the
end
of
the
year
report
for
the
fiscal
year
ending
July
and
in
June
30th
2022,
which
is
already
a
year
ago,
and
then
so
the
description
like
it
reflects
the
status
there
at
that
time,
and
then
the
staff
did,
the
numbers
did
is
based
on
other
departments.
Provide
you
all
the
information
to
including
that
report
correct.
R
A
A
L
E
Thank
you,
video
team,
so
I
have
sent
you
written
comments.
The
report
covers
the
period
that
starts
July,
1
2021,
and
it
gives
a
narrative
of
what
we
have
in
in
various
malls
and
the
vibrant
economy.
It's
not.
These
sections
are
not
talking
about
the
sales
taxes,
it's
talking
about
what
we
have
in
our
community
and
it
lists
stores
that
closed
in
2020..
E
E
E
Mistakes
that
were
over
50
years
old
from
what
I
can
tell,
and
that
I
also
want
to
say
that
my
comments
regarding
the
minutes
were
were
on
point.
As
you
can
see.
I
fully
agree
with
councilmember
frewin
I
did
say
my
slides.
That
I
had
agreed
with
the
recommendation.
Unfortunately,
when
taken
in
context
by
the
next
meeting,
a
different
recommendation
had
come
about
about
which
made
my
comments
incorrect
when
taken
in
that
new
context.
E
At
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
important
to
be
transparent.
Well,
you
know,
and
at
the
end,
and
also
as
somebody
saying
putting
words
in
my
mouth
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
we're
really
all
straight
up
and
on
you
know
on
board
with
that.
So
you
know:
I
I
figured
out
how
to
move
forward
and
and
I
really
think
it's
important
that
the
documents
that
we
have
are
correct.
E
A
R
I'll,
just
so
here
is
the
email
from
Rhoda.
Maybe
the
staff
can
just
help
relieve
the
confusion,
so
she
thinks
that
this
this
business
is
that
she
mentioned
were
already
closed
in
2020,
but
likely
they
are
still
reporting,
I,
don't
know,
and
then
the
document
list
seek
it
as
a
top
employer,
but
maybe
it's
just
that
unders,
it's
a
different
time.
So
if
you
can
help
on
EX
on
us,
yeah
explain
that
would
be
really
helpful.
Thank
you.
V
If
that
a
certain
point
like
for
next
year,
where
they
haven't
been
reporting
some
of
these
actually
we're
still
reporting
into
the
into
the
July
quarter
of
the
current
fiscal
year.
We
were
still
getting,
and
so
we
wouldn't
still
include
that
as
part
of
in
the
financials.
That's
something
that's
bringing
dollars
into
the
city
in
terms
of
the
Seagate
item
we
use,
that's,
not
employment.
Information
is
not
readily
available
to
us.
V
V
R
You
already
make
Corrections
that
you
found
or
valid,
but
then
the
rest
of
the
numbers
were
based
on
the
information
that's
available
through
the
treasurer
and
anything.
That's
any
information,
that's
not
available
to
you.
You
cannot
report
them
based
on
some
understanding,
Pharmaceuticals
party
right.
V
V
It
should
be
in
the
annual
comprehensive
Financial
reports
on
the
city's
website.
So
if
you
go
to
cupertino.org
I
think
forward,
slash
finance
and
you
scroll
down,
you
should
be
able
to
see
all
the
previous
actors
include.
The
management
letters
should
be
included
at
the
front
part
of
that
document.
Okay,.
P
P
V
Included
in
the
management
letters
also
a
management
response
that
says
what,
whether
we
agree
or
disagree
and
what
we
intend
to
do
for
some
of
those
items.
There's
mitigating
controls
we
can
put
in
place
so
example
the
first
one
that
you
listed,
and
so
we
look
to
find
solutions
for
how
we
can
either
correct
the
problem
completely
or
put
in
some
mitigating
controls.
So,
for
example,
we
we
can't
have
new
world
change
and
make
the
reporting
that
doesn't
exist
for
them.
V
P
Okay,
so
where
do
I
find,
then
this?
The
city's
response
part
so
I'm.
Looking
at
the
the
agenda
item
attachment
B
I
have
the
management
letter,
but
I
I,
don't
know
where
to
find
the
the
response
to
that,
and
thank
you
for
putting
item
eight,
the
responses
to
the
acfr
questions,
because
those
are
some
of
the
questions
from
members
of
the
public
that
were
that
were
answered
in
there.
P
V
So
if
you
go
to
attachment,
it's
not
showing
me
the
attached
attachment
sorry
attachment
B,
it
has
the
management,
letter
deficiencies
and
so
in
there
you're
going
to
look
it's
going
to
give
you
a
description
of
it.
The
potential
effect
and
then
under
recommendation
is
where
you'd
see
the
city's
response.
P
Okay,
all
I'm,
seeing
are
the
recommendations
from
Crow,
so
on
page
two
of
that,
the
recommendation
we're
aware
that
the
city
is
considering
a
potential
new
investment
in
an
Erp
that
could
contain
improvements
in
several
areas,
including
the
generation
of
certain
security
logs
that
could
strengthen
the
city's
I.T
control
environment.
In
the
meantime,
we
recommend
the
city
consider
its
current
Staffing
structure,
an
assignment
of
review
duties
Etc,
but
that's
not
saying
that
the
city
is
doing
that.
That's
I
was
expecting
something
that
was
more
like.
P
In
some
ways
it
it's
in
line
with
some
of
the
the
Moss
Adams
recommendations
is
finding
out
what
happened
afterwards
after
you
got.
The
recommendation
says
out
of
curiosity
what
happens
with
these
management
letters
so
that
we
know
that,
or
at
least
have
some
assurance
that
when,
when
we
do
get
some
kind
of
deficiency
notice
that
that
it's
being
worked
on,
that's
all
I
I
can
take
a
memo.
After
so
we
don't
hold
up
the
meeting.
Thank
you.
A
U
We
certainly
can
add
that
in
just
to
inform
you
that
Finance
is
constantly
looking
and
reassessing
its
processes
and
identifying
the
deficiencies
even
before
the
Auditors
come
out.
So
as
we're
moving
along
the
year
and
staff
identifies
a
potential
issue,
will
bring
they'll,
raise
it
to
management
and
we'll
go
ahead
and
devise
a
new
process
to
address
that
and
Shore
up
that
that
weakness.
A
Thank
you,
so
I
do
have
a
question
on
the
process.
I
I
can
see
that
these
are
administrative
process
that
our
staff
would
work
on.
When
this
comes
on
and
more
well,
I
think
that's
to
me
it's
more
of
a
implementation
instead
of
a
council
Direction,
where
you
sort
of
agree
with
that.
That's
what
happening.
U
Practice
that
when
Auditors
well
Auditors
and
staff
work
together
right,
so
the
Auditors
will
identify
key
issues
and
they'll
bring
it
to
staff's
attention
and
if
it's
egregious
they'll
bring
it
to
management,
but
as
we're
working
together
through
the
engagement
they'll,
if
they
find
a
deficiency
or
something
minor,
they'll
bring
it
to
staff
and
we'll
make
those
those
fine
tweaks
in
our
processes
and
so
ultimately
we'll
refine
our
process
and
from
auditor
to
auditor
it
will
always
change.
So
one
audit
firms
opinion
on
a
certain
situation
may
be
different
than
the
next.
U
A
So
it
looks
like
this
is
Operation.
That's
within
the
finance
department
which
city
department,
when
you
have
auditing
you
work
with
auditor
and
work
with
you
know
what
needs
to
be
done
and
I
was
school
for
11
years.
So
we
do
know
that
we
need
to
change
auditor
every
I,
think
five
years.
Okay,
so
I
think
that's
a
good
practice
and
we
did
just
have
our
finance
department,
Finance
finance
committee
audit
committee,
that
selected
I
remember.
Last
time
we
had
selected
a
new
okay
all
right.
P
A
U
The
way
it
works
is
you
can
maintain
the
same
firm
for
many
years.
State
Municipal
Code
says
you
have
to
change
the
audit
partner
or
engagement
partner
every
six
years
and
that's
the
individual
who's
essentially
responsible
for
overseeing
the
each
engagement
and
they're
the
ones
that's
signed
at
the
bottom
of
the
at
the
report,
saying
that
it's
free
of
any
material
weakness,
material,
Mis
misinformation.
A
L
You
mayor
way
so
before
we
end
the
meeting
tonight,
I
do
have
a
video,
but
before
I
played
a
video
just
have
a
question
for
council
members
that
were
planning
on
a
join
workshop
with
city
of
Monte
Sereno
late
August,
where
we're
looking
at
at
the
end
of
August
towards
September
1st.
So
just
one
before
I
proceed
want
to
get
confirmation
on
your
availability,
a
head,
not
if
we're
concerning
for
confirming
or
a
head
shake
for
not
coming
so
before.
I
could
finalize
the
detail.
If
I
can
start
with
mayor,
wait.
Q
L
A
it
could
be
a
Wednesday,
Thursday
or
Friday
I'm
just
polling.
Your
availability
I
understand
that
we
are
dark
in
August,
so
just
trying
to
see
if
you
will
be
taking
a
vacation
or
other
plans
scheduled,
and
that
will
be
during
the
day
we
could.
We
could
talk
about
the
time
of
the
the
date
but
I
just
right
now.
I
just
need
to
know
if
you
will
be
in
the
country
for
those
three
days
and
you
will
confirm
to
attend
that
meeting.
Q
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Can
I
make
a
comment.
I
wasn't
aware
of
the
date
city
manager
when
you
said
the
30th
I'm
most
likely
going
to
be
here,
but
I
am
traveling
out
of
the
country
and
strange
things
happen.
If
I
don't
arrive
on
the
29th,
then
there
may
be
a
problem
I'm
scheduled
to
come
back
on
the
29th.