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Coverage of the Tuesday, November 15, 2022 Cupertino City Council Hybrid Meeting. Part 1 of 2.
A
C
A
Thank
you,
madam
City,
Clerk
and
I
understand.
Vice
versa
is
coming
over
from
City
Hall
to
join
us
momentarily,
and
so
the
item
on
our
special
meeting
agenda
tonight
is
a
study
session,
and
it
is
the
one
and
only
item
it
is
a
status
update
on
the
sixth
cycle
of
our
housing
element
and
so
I
believe
that
there
is
a
staff
report
from
our
acting
community
development
director
is
that
correct,
Madam
city
manager,
Pamela.
D
Wu,
yes,
thank
you,
mayor
Paul.
We
do
have
a
short
presentation
prepared
for
city
council
to
walk
you
through
where
we
are
with
the
housing
element
and
I
believe
Luke
is
available
on
screen.
He
was
planning
on
giving
the
presentation
in
person,
but
like
many
others,
he's
is
coming
down
with
some
symptoms
and
does
not
want
to.
A
A
Very
good,
thank
you
vice
mayor
and
so
Luke
acting
director
Connolly
welcome
and
we
look
forward
to
your
presentation.
F
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
mayor
Paul
and
members
of
the
city
council
I'm
happy
to
be
making
this
presentation
tonight,
I'm.
Assuming
that
you
can
see
the
presentation
I
have
up
on
the
screen,
I'm
going
to
try
to
go
through
this
briefly
give
like
a
10
minute
overview
of
where
we're,
essentially,
where
we've
been
on
the
housing
element,
update
what
the
current
status
is
and
what
the
recommended
path
ahead
for
the
project
is
so
up
front.
F
The
recommendation
that
we
were
making
at
this
time,
I
believe
were
all
cognizant
that
there's
something
of
a
time
crunch
with
the
housing
element
that
we're
all
facing
pretty
much
all
cities
in
the
Bay
Area-
and
this
is
what
we're
recommending
at
this
time-
is
that
the
current
draft
of
the
housing
element
that
we
have,
that
we
get
that
prepared
and
go
through
the
required
public
comment
period
that
is
required
by
state
law,
and
we
go
through
that
as
soon
as
possible
and
submit
the
draft
that
we
have
to
the
Housing
and
Community
Development
Department,
which
we're
confident
we
could
do
by
the
January
31
2023
certification
deadline.
F
I
included
this
slide
just
for
people
who
may
be
new
to
the
process.
I
know
we've
had
a
lot
of
meetings.
This
may
be
familiar,
but
for
a
lot
of
people,
the
housing
element
is
essentially
an
exercise
in
accommodating
the
Regional.
Housing
needs
allocation.
Arena
I
just
want
to
remind
people.
The
city's
Rena
is
4588
total
new
units
that
we
would
need
to
accommodate
in
the
eight
year
period
of
2023-2031,
over
2600
of
those
units
or
about
57
percent,
would
fall
into
the
affordable
categories
of
very
low
low
and
moderate
income.
F
F
Also
some
background
on
the
housing
element
for
people
who
may
be
new
to
the
process.
The
housing
element
is
part
of
the
city's
General
plan.
It
essentially
touches
on
all
things:
housing
policies,
your
programs,
your
housing,
needs
analysis
and,
of
course,
your
site's
inventory.
That's
needed
to
accommodate
your
Arena,
unlike
every
other
element
of
your
general
plan
like
land
use
or
Transportation,
the
housing
element
is
updated.
Every
eight
years
per
state
law,
so
it
increasingly
is
becoming
more
of
like
an
ongoing
contract
between
the
state
and
local
governments.
F
F
Again
we're
in
the
sixth
cycle
that
covers
the
planning
period
of
2023
to
2031.
The
certification
deadline
for
housing
elements
for
Bay
Area
jurisdictions
is
January,
31
2023,
that's
two
and
a
half
months
off.
The
city
is
not
going
to
have
a
certified
housing
element
by
that
date,
nor
is
probably
any
other
city
in
the
county
right
now,
I
believe
only
one
Bay
Area
city
is
certified,
but
our
goal
again
is
to
get
a
draft
to
hcd
and
get
this
process
more
actively
going
with
them.
So
we
can
receive
comments
and
respond
to
them
sooner.
F
so
far
progress
made
to
date,
the
housing
element
was
essentially
begun.
A
little
over
a
year
ago,
September
of
last
year,
2021
the
city
entered
into
a
contract
with
EMC
Planning
Group
to
prepare
the
housing
element
and
documents
such
as
the
eir
that
were
part
of
the
the
project
package.
F
There
were
Council
study
sessions
held
in
September
and
November
of
last
year,
providing
General
overviews
on
the
process
on
December
9th
of
last
year.
There
was
a
Housing
Commission
study
session
held
in
the
morning
and
an
evening
community
meeting,
which
essentially
kicked
off
the
community
engagement
process
for
this
project.
F
In
early
of
March
this
year,
the
city
council
also
formed
the
community
engagement
plan,
strategic
advisory
committee,
which
consists
of
two
council
members
and
the
planning
and
Housing
Commission
chairs.
That
body
has
met
eight
times
since
late
March,
the
most
recent
meeting
being
on
October
26th
and
is
essentially
guided
the
community
engagement
and
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing
processes
for
the
project.
F
There
have
been
I
believe
22
public
meetings
in
the
calendar
year
of
2022,
starting
in
late
January,
that
includes
Planning
Commission,
Housing,
Commission
advisory
committee
and
City
Council
meetings,
as
well
as
three
Community
meetings
held
between
May
and
September,
that
Focus
largely
on
affirmatively
further
furthering
fair
housing
requirements,
which
are
a
key
component
of
the
six
cycle.
Update
really
all
of
the
meetings
in
2022
have
focused
on
either
establishing
a
site's
inventory
or
Community
engagement
on
June
28
and
July
5.
F
The
planning
and
housing
commissions
held
two
joint
meetings
in
which
they
made
their
final
recommendations
on
the
site's
inventory
to
the
city
council
and
on
August
29
and
30
on
back-to-back
evenings.
The
city
council
acted
and
approved
a
site's
inventory,
which
is
a
major
milestone
for
getting
through
your
housing
element
update
once
the
site's
inventory
was
approved,
that
enabled
staff
and
our
consultant
EMC
to
shift
and
essentially
focus
on
drafting
the
housing
element
document
itself
and
also
to
initiate
the
secret
process.
By
having
a
site's
inventory
established.
F
You
could
then
arrive
at
a
project
description
for
where
new
housing
would
go
yeah.
It
wasn't
until
mid-october
October
11th
that
we
received
an
administrative
draft
from
EMC
planning
and
administrative
draft
housing
element,
essentially
being
more
of
a
working
document
that
would
have
allowed
staff
to
review
it
and
have
more
revisions
made
by
our
consultant
before
we
would
have
submitted
this
to
hcd,
given
that
we're
facing
again
a
real-time
constraint
to
get
this
process
moving.
F
We
are
recommending
it
this
time,
then,
that
we
move
this
document
forward
and
get
back
to
hcd
as
soon
as
we
can
to
start
engaging
them
and
getting
the
review
taking
place
in
order
for
that
to
happen,
there
is
a
required
30-day
public
comment
period
that
has
to
occur,
so
we
would
need
to
make
the
document
available
to
the
public.
We
could
post
it
and
provide
notices
on
our
website
that
the
document
is
available.
F
This
needs
to
occur
as
well
as
if
any
comments
are
received
during
those
30
days,
which
we
anticipate
there
will
be
that
there
needs
to
be
responses
prepared
for
a
period
of
at
least
10
business
days.
So
a
40
plus
day
period
of
comment
and
response
has
to
occur
on
the
draft
document
before
we
would
be
able
to
submit
this
to
hcd.
So
if
this
were
to
happen
right
away
and
given
the
holidays,
this
probably
puts
us
somewhere
into
early
mid-January,
where
we
could
then
have
that
comment
period
occur
and
provide
the
document
to
hcp.
F
F
You
again,
this
is
probably
a
full
90-day
process,
but
what
would
be
advisable
from
con
from
conversations
we've
had
with
hcd
staff
and
other
planning
Consultants?
Is
that
somewhere,
in
the
later
phase
of
that
90
days
around
the
60?
To
70
70
day
period,
we
would
want
to
schedule
a
meeting
with
hcd
to
understand
on
a
more
Global
level
what
their
comments
are,
so
we
could
get
a
head
start
on
addressing
changes.
F
One
thing
to
bear
in
mind
with
this
process
is
that
it's
generally
fairly
iterative.
Where
there's
more
than
one
comment
period,
it's
possible
you
could
get
through
in
one
but
unlikely,
so
it's
likely
that
there
would
be
another
round,
and
that
could
also
take
about
60
days
for
hcd
to
again
review
our
revised
draft
document.
F
This
essentially,
this
slide
essentially
covers
what
I
just
said
where,
where
at
the
extreme
left
of
this
timeline,
where
we're
looking
at
releasing
a
draft.
That
is
what
staff's
recommending
at
this
time.
That
would
be
followed
by
the
30-day
public
comment
period
and
the
10-day
response.
These
are
not
optional.
These
are
required
by
state
law.
F
F
F
So
where
we're
at
again,
our
recommendation
is
that
we
have
a
current
graph.
We
know
it
is
technically
an
administrative
graph,
meaning
it's
not
as
refined
as
it
could
be.
However,
it
is
a
complete
document
and
we
feel
that
it
would
be
advantageous
at
this
point
in
time
to
go
forward
and
start
our
public
comment
period
and
get
that
submitted
to
hcd
as
soon
as
we
can.
We
can
we're
very
confident
we
could
do
so
before
the
January
31
2023
certification
deadline.
F
On
the
other
hand,
a
second
alternative
would
be
that
we
get
another
consultant
team
on
board,
revise
the
draft.
We
currently
have
make
it
a
more
polished,
finalized
document
and
then
submit
that
that
document
to
hcd
this
would
add
approximately
three
months
to
the
process.
We
would
not
be
able
to
submit
to
hcd
most
likely
until
about
mid-april,
so
that
would
be
about
the
time
we
would
expect
to
be
getting
a
comment
letter
back.
F
If
we
could
get
them
the
document
in
January
and
that
concludes
the
presentation-
I
have
laying
out
what
I
wanted
to
go
over
tonight,
which
were
really
those
two
Alternatives
and
our
recommended
expedited
alternative.
That
concludes
stats
report.
A
Okay,
great,
thank
you
very
much.
Luke
and
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
have
our
city
clerk
take
any
comments
this
evening.
This
is
true
throughout
the
evening,
because
I
think
this
is
probably
a
better
practice
in
terms
of
continuity
between
administrations,
and
so
let's
start
that
this
evening
and
I
think
we're
going
to
go
ahead
with
the
zoom
first
and
then
you
know
blue
cards,
but
at
your
discretion,
Madam
city
clerk.
Are
there
any
comments
on
this
item?
Thank.
G
Thank
you,
Kirsten
could.
Could
you
please
display
the
slide
I
sent.
G
I
can
thank
you,
I
sent
this
in
an
email.
A
similar
I
want
to
know.
Thank
you
Luke
for
the
the
presentation
it
answered
a
couple
of
my
questions
but
who,
in
the
city
other
than
directly
your
staff,
has
seen
the
draft
element
document
and
what
are
their
thoughts
as
to
you
said
it
wasn't
polished
that,
but
is
it
in
line
with
the
city's
thoughts?
Another
question:
what
does
it
contain?
I'm
assuming
a
housing
element
would
have
policies,
strategies,
programs.
G
When
would
the
eir
come
in
question
three?
Would
submitting
this
satisfy
the
deadline
for
a
requirement.
You
said
it
wouldn't
satisfy
the
certification
deadline,
but
it
would
get
a
document
in
their
hands
so
never
mind
about
that.
One
number:
four:
after
the
30-day
public
comment
period,
there's
a
10-day
response
period.
Will
responses
result
in
modifications,
changes
prior
to
the
submittal
to
HCB,
or
is
this?
If
not?
G
G
The
housing
and
planning
commissions
and
the
council
were
were
to
provide
inputs
on
the
policies
and
strategies.
Yet
they
are
being
asked
to
Forfeit
this
and
submit
a
document
site
unseen
and
have
our
entire
city
held.
Responsible
Luke
said
that
they
could
completely
rewrite
it,
but
is
will
that
pass
with
hcd
I'd
appreciate
the
answers
and
thank
you.
B
B
H
No
good
evening,
mayor
in
the
council,
so
I
have
two
questions.
One
is
I
think
the
question
piggy
asked
as
well,
which
is
you
know
getting
this
draft
in
its
CD's
hands
in
time.
Does
that
get
us
out
of
the
penalty
box
or
not?
Does
that
satisfy
the
need
that
hey?
You
know?
We
got
you
something
in
your
hands.
You
know,
then,
let's
work,
you
trade
through
this
and
you
know
and
agree
on.
You
know
whatever
like
what.
H
If
you
know
the
submission
that
we
made
is
good
enough
or
you
know
if
it
needs
some
revision
right.
So
I
just
want
to
know
the
answer
to
the
question
and
second
I
would
like
to
understand.
You
know
how
many
cities
like
us
like
are
in
this
process,
and
you
know
where
they
are
in
the
spectrum
of
you
know
you
should
have
timeline
schedule
of
you
know,
like
you
know,
five
or
six
Milestones
right.
H
So
if
you
have
to
take
all
the
cities,
you
know
that
are
working
to
submit
their
housing
element
create
CD,
how
you
know.
Let's
say
there
are
100
how
many
of
them
are
in
different
stages.
You
know
if
you
have
to
put
them
on
the
buckets
each
buckets
like
you
know.
20
of
them
are
here
in
the
first
stage
and
you
know
15
are
in
the
second
stage
and
one
is
at
the
final
stage.
You
know.
H
I
We
go
there
we
go
here.
We
go
yes,
hi
good
evening.
Everybody
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
I
had
I
one
quick
comment:
I
think
it's
interesting
and
I
think
it's
actually
smart.
The
decision
to
get
something
into
hcd,
rather
than
wait
to
make
it
be
perfect,
as
we've
seen
outside
of
the
city
of
Alameda
hcd
to
date,
has
issued
or
comment
letters,
not
accepting
a
majority
of
the
housing
element
drafts
that
have
been
submitted
to
them
in
the
first
round.
I
So
I
think
it's
smart
to
get
out
ahead
of
it
because
it's
likely,
no
matter
how
long
you
take
there's
going
to
be
comments
to
address
so
I'd
come
in
the
city.
For
that
a
couple
of
quick
questions.
If
you
could
talk
about
the
status
of
the
eir
and
specifically
I
know
the
report
mentioned
it
has
commenced,
but
I
don't
believe,
there's
been
a
public
scoping
meeting
for
the
eir
and
I'm
curious.
If
that
is
planned
because
I
know
that's
a
required
item
relative
to
the
process
of
hiring
a
new
consultant.
I
And,
lastly,
a
question
of
if
the
city
has
any
has
any
thoughts
relative
to
once
this
all
gets
approved
by
hcd
later
in
23?
Does
the
city
expect
to
move
forward
immediately
and
update
the
zoning
and
general
plan
to
reflect
the
approved
housing
element
by
hcd
I
know
Mooney?
I
You
had
asked
a
question
about
what
cities
have
done
to
date,
so
by
my
records
of
call
it
the
15
counties
in
Santa
Clara
there
are
10
city
or
excuse
me,
15
cities
in
Santa,
Clara,
County,
there's
10
cities
that
have
submitted
the
first
draft
and
they
are
all
anticipating
or
waiting
on
their
90-day
response
letter
from
hcd.
Most
of
those
will
occur
in
the
month
of
November
in
December.
There
are
five
cities,
including
Cupertino,
that
have
yet
to
submit.
I
So
that's
just
an
answer
to
your
question
but,
and
then
I
don't
know
if
the
if
at
this
time
time,
the
council
has
any
update
or
it's
appropriate
to
share
an
update,
but
I
know
when
we
closed
in
August,
we
talked
about
above
Road
and
I
know
a
few
of
the
council.
Members
were
working
hard
on
that,
so
I
don't
know.
If
there's
an
update
on
that.
If
there's
not
that's
great
I
appreciate
everybody
working
on
that,
because
it's
certainly
a
great
area
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak.
B
J
Foreign
good
evening,
city,
council,
I'll,
let
you
know
that
I
spent
two
hours
this
afternoon
on
a
housing
element
Zoom
from
Southern
California
I
have
been
involved
in
this
since
the
beginning.
This
is
probably
the
third
housing
element
cycle
that
I've
gone
through
since
2000..
This
one
is
one
for
the
record
books.
I
told
you
all
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
I
used
the
terms
a
dog
in
a
pony,
show
and
I
still
believe
it.
It's
even
worse.
Now
now
I
commend
our
staff
everyone's
time
you
have
to
do
a
job.
J
I
have
worked
in
jobs
where
I
had
projects
that
we
all
wondered.
You
know
they
were
going
to
get
canned
down
the
line.
Etc,
you
do
your
job
and
Scott.
You
did
a
great
I'm,
sorry,
Mr,
Connolly,
sorry,
that's
the
wrong
person.
Our
staff
member
did
a
great
job.
Everyone
has
done
an
exemplary
job.
Against
All,
Odds
I
have
the
greatest
concerns
about
this
house
element.
J
My
first
statement
is
that
in
I
believe
it
was
August
1st
or
June
29th
Southern
California
skag
was
given
an
extension
with
a
bill,
so
they've
been
given
two
extra
years.
No
one
is
giving
Northern
California
that
benefit.
That
is
not
fair.
It's
discriminatory
against
Northern
California.
No
one
has
answered
our
questions.
Why
we
don't
get
treated
that
way?
Is
it
because
San
Francisco
is
there
and
Gavin
number
two
is
hcd
has
been
abusive
to
every
city
in
this
state
verbally
and
they
have
been
aggressive
and
they
have
weaponized
the
housing
element.
J
We
don't
know
if
hcd
will
certify
I.
Believe
Emeryville
is
touting
the
fact
that
it
got
certified.
Okay,
great
for
Emeryville,
but
Cupertino
has
to
proceed
cautiously.
We've
all
spent
time
on
this
I
had
a
mother
in
the
hospital
for
three
weeks
in
June.
I
didn't
attend
one
of
the
meetings,
but
I
attended
every
single
one
of
them,
so
you
know
and
we're
coming
out
of
the
pandemic.
I.
J
Don't
think
that
our
state
really
understands
where
the
public
is
mentally
and
time
wise
right
now
we
have
massive
layoffs
in
San
in
in
I
mean
the
tech
companies
I,
don't
know
if
these
people
that
are
writing
these
housing
bills
have
been
through
layoffs,
but
they
are
pure
hell.
2000
was
massive
layoffs
in
Tech
land,
2010,
2008
and
I
predict
we're
going
to
hit
it
again,
so
the
city
needs
to
proceed
cautiously.
Whether
we
are
going
to
submit
this
thing
or
not.
I
would
say
at
this
point:
let
hcd
wait.
J
They
there
are
groups
that
are
saying
they
will
use
the
Builder's
remedy.
I
have
heard
in
meetings,
it
won't
hold
up
in
court,
but
San,
but
San
Francisco
is
being
threatened
by
Senator
weiner
over
the
the
builders
remedy.
So
we
will
proceed
cautiously
I.
Think
it's
and
I.
Frankly,
I
don't
want
to
have
the
the
30-day
comment
period
over
the
holidays.
Let's
give
the
public
a
break.
Thank
you.
If
you
want
to
do
it
and
I
okay,
if
you
want
to
do
it
in
January,
it's
fine,
but
you
know
what
let
HC
do
wait.
Thank.
K
Person
so
I
guess
I
want
to
Echo
most
of
what
Peggy
questioned
and
pointed
out
and
Mooney
as
well
and.
K
Half
of
what
Scott
Conley
mentioned
and
some
of
what
Jennifer
said,
I'm,
not
sure
I'm
in
a
hurry
to
say
let
hcd
wait,
but
I
am
grateful
that
you
have
options
from
staff
and
that
staff
has
not
left
it
as
a
oh
50
50
that
they
have
actually
recommended
something
over
the
other
and
given
reasons
why
I
remain
very
disappointed
in
our
previous
consultant
and
wish
that
we
had
moved
on
without
them
sooner.
But
here
we
are
and
I
thank
staff
for
all
their
efforts.
K
I'm
frankly,
quite
maybe
shocked
is
the
word
that
there's
only
five
people
speaking
tonight
on
this
subject
when
it
became
such
two
weeks
ago.
It
was
such
a
dramatic
thing,
and
people
aren't
here
to
follow
up
on
that.
So
I
trust.
Your
counsel,
I
trust,
staff's
recommendations,
whether
you
agree
with
them
or
not,
I,
would
trust
what
you
do
so
you're,
not
in
any
easy
spot.
I
too
wish
there
were
more
documentation
for
everyone
to
see
before
you
made
this
decision,
but
thank
you
all
of
you.
B
A
Thank
you,
madam
Mr
clerk,
all
right
so
we're
back
to
the
dice
on
this
item
and
to
remind
everyone
we're
on
a
study
session
on
the
housing
element,
and
so
we
are
at
six
o'clock.
Our
regular
meeting
starts
at
6.
45
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
we
wrap
this
in
about
half
an
hour
or
so
so.
Some
comments
from
the
council
following
questions
from
the
council,
I
think,
would
make
some
sense.
A
Is
there
any
appetite
for
follow-ups
on
the
questions
that
were
raised
from
members
of
the
public
and
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
express
that
appetite
so
to
the
extent
Luke
you
or
any
other
member
of
staff
can
speak
to
you
know
some
of
these
questions,
such
as
who
has
seen
the
draft
among
our
staff
and
Council.
A
You
know:
what's
the
status
of
our
eir
well,
densities
be
changed
by
the
new
consultants
and
when
approved
by
hcd
in
2023?
Is
the
city
looking
to
move
immediately
on
changing
things
like
zoning?
You
know
so
so
those
types
of
follow-up
questions
I
think
are
pretty
productive
to
answer
as
a
initial
Baseline.
Before
we
get
into
some
of
the
council
questions
and
so
Madam
city
manager,
would
you
like
to
take
that
on
or.
D
Take
it
on
thank
you,
mayor
Paul
in
general,
I
summarized
some
of
the
questions
from
the
members
of
the
public.
So
so
far
the
planning
staff
has
seen
the
draft.
It
does
contain
the
general
plan
policy
strategies,
programs
eir.
We
are
in
the
negotiation
with
the
new
vendor
to
start
the
eir
process.
The
scoping
meeting
is
one
of
the
members
mentioned,
probably
will
take
place
in
January,
or
so
it
does
take
a
while
to
plan
out
for
eir
to
go
out.
D
The
30-day
public
review
period
is
mandated
by
state
law
and
the
10-day
following
that,
after
the
30
days
to
consolidate
the
feedback
is
also
mandated
by
state
law,
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
we
have
to
published
the
draft
during
Thanksgiving
during
the
holiday.
We
could
probably
be
more
sensitive
to
when
the
30
plus
10
days
is
is
launched,
but
we
do
want
to
be
cautious
with
enough
time
for
us
to
incorporate
the
comments
to
be
able
to
submit
to
hcd
by
the
end
of
January.
D
In
terms
of
the
other
questions
in
terms
of
who
the
vendor
is
and
whether
or
not
the
public
gets
to
review
who
the
vendors
are.
There
aren't
only
a
handful
of
Consultants
who
are
preparing
housing
element.
I.
Think
Council
has
full
confidence
in
staff
in
selecting
the
right
consultant
to
carry
carry
us
forward.
We
are
in
negotiation
and
contract
negotiation
with
the
next
vendor.
To
finish
not
only
the
housing
element
document
also
to
carry
us
out
on
the
SQL
analysis.
D
A
Great
though
thank
you
very
much,
Madam
city
manager
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
turn
this
to
council
before
I.
Do
that
I'll
just
make
a
couple
remarks.
A
We
actually
had
a
really
good
discussion
earlier
today
with
members
of
hcd,
and
that
happened
as
a
result
of
me
stumbling
across
In
This,
Very
Room
on
October
7th,
one
of
those
members
of
hcd,
a
policy
analyst
so
I
had
Mahmoud
and
a
couple
of
members
of
ilg
The
Institute
of
local
government.
They
were
holding
a
local
Planning
Commission
seminar
here
in
Community,
Hall
and
I.
A
Just
happened
to
peek
inside
and
I
was
striking
up
a
conversation
with
three
people
and
it
turned
out
that
one
of
them
was
a
senior
policy
analyst
over
at
hcd
and
so
I
reached
out
to
Pamela,
which
was
not
too.
You
know
long
endure
tenure
here
and
we
were
able
to
get
a
follow-up
conversation
with
staff
with
Luke
Pew,
as
well
as
myself
and
Pamela
earlier
today.
So
so,
I
think
that
was
very
productive
and
food.
A
A
This
is
right
in
the
corner
of
Community
Hall
here
to
have
that
initial
conversation
about
whether
pipeline
projects,
in
fact
count
because
we
were
in
the
midst
of
you
know
that
that
conversation
do
we
need
to
have
a
letter
of
intent
and
I
asked
sahab
there
and
she
explicitly
said
well.
Yes,
they
definitively
count.
Do
we
need
a
letter
of
intent,
no
actually
development
agreement,
and
the
surrounding
context
is,
is
you
know,
taken
under
a
very
strong
advisement
there?
A
So
you
know
it's
one
of
these
things
where
the
other
thing
I'll
say
one
thing,
I
noticed
from
our
cities
association
meeting
last
week,
we
had
one
where
each
of
the
representatives
of
the
cities
of
Santa
Clara
County
meet
on
regular
monthly
basis
and
the
people
that
were
Consulting
for
the
county
with
regard
to
planning
and
the
housing
element
were
there,
and
they
had
a
lot
of
questions
to
field
from
every
single
one
of
the
representatives
of
all
the
cities.
A
Every
single
one
of
the
cities
of
Santa
Clara
County
are
very
worried
about
the
Builder's
remedy.
It
is
not
something
that
is
unique
to
Cupertino.
One
of
the
questions
we
asked
of
the
group
of
three
people
from
hcd
in
fact,
was
in
our
County
who's,
going
to
make
it
on
time
on
January
31st
the
answer.
If
I
and
correct
me,
if
I'm,
misrelating
or
misremembering
this
either
yourself
Pamela
or
Luke,
the
answer
was
a
very
small
handful
of
cities
and
they
didn't
say
the
county.
They
said
within
a
bag
right
within
the
area
of
bay.
A
The
the
Bay
Area
governments
is
going
to
be.
You
know
potentially
compliant
budget
in
January
31st,
so
so
so
kind
of
taking
a
lot
of
The
Flash
and
the
smoke
away
from
this
conversation.
I
think
it's
important
for
us
to
you
know
deal
with
factual
information
based
upon
you
know,
trying
to
take
a
good
faith
effort
into
you
know,
making
sure
that
we,
you
know,
meet
our
deadlines,
but
also
you
know,
meet
them
with
the
underlying
intent
preserved.
We
also
had
a
lot
of
good
details.
A
Frankly,
with
regard
to
some
of
these
positionings,
you
know
it's
difficult,
basically
to
undertake
an
exercise
where
we're
basically
saying
look,
you
know,
and
they
use
this
number
themselves-
it's
probably
two
million
dollar
median
homes
in
Cupertino
to
deliver
these
types
of
units.
In
these
types
of
quantities,
there
is
a
very
large
elephant
in
the
room,
and
that
has
to
do
with.
How
are
you
going
to
pay
for
all
of
this,
and
so
that
that
is
something
that
we
do
not
really
take
head-on?
A
Frankly,
but
that's
that's
true
throughout
the
entirety
of
the
process,
I
I
think
in
good
faith.
A
lot
of
what
this
exercise
is
about
is
correcting
some
of
the
historical
pushback
which
is
really
about
trying
to
you
know,
create
create
pockets
of
exclusion,
and
you
know
trying
to
do
what
we
can
to
you
know
not
necessarily
open
up
communities
completely
economically,
because
that's
that's
a
feasibility
issue.
It's
about
making
sure
that
we're
correcting
Behavior
patterns
that
we
can
correct
to
make
sure
that
we're
a
more
inclusive
community.
A
So
so
that's
kind
of
the
backdrop
that
I
that
I
see
you
know
when
we're
able
to
you
know,
follow
up
with
a
conversation
with
a
few
representatives
from
hcd
and
I
knew
immediately.
You
know
when
I,
when
I
spoke
with
the
policy
senior
policy,
analyst
In,
This
Very
Room
that
we
needed
to
have
the
follow-up,
so
it
was
good
to
have
that
contact.
A
I,
don't
think
you
know
and
again
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
I
think
it
was
good
to
be
able
to
have
that
and
I'm
glad
to
provide
that
context
to
what
we've
been
doing
and
and
honestly,
you
hear
a
lot.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is:
there's
just
a
ton
of
work
happening
in
the
background
from
from
all
aspects
of
of
this,
so
I
guess,
I'll.
You
know
kind
of
conclude
these
initial
remarks,
with
the
notion
that
we
have
worked
in
good
faith.
A
We
have
gone
through
the
entire
city
and
there
have
been
a
number
of
sites
that
have
been
identified
and,
and
you
city
manager
Wu,
rightly
pointed
out
some
legislation
again
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong
I
think
you
noted
ab2011
is
that
correct,
okay
and
you're,
asking
the
members
of
hcd
how
that
affects?
You
know
the
way
that
we
go
about
trying
to
you
know
you
know
present
our
housing
element
and
and
basically
I.
A
You
know
the
I
think
the
biggest
take
home
that
I
got
from
it
was
you
want
to
have
a
show
of
good
faith?
It's
not
just
about
having
meetings,
it's
about
what
you
think
the
results
of
those
meetings
are
going
to
be,
and
it's,
if
you
can
basically
pin
like
Notions
of
this,
is
what
we're
going
to
do
and
when
we
would
like
to
do
them
by
it's
really
that
kind
of
conversation.
A
So
so
that's
you
know,
you
can't
necessarily
you
know,
put
black
letter
legislation
by
it,
but
I
think
that's
the
spirit
of
the
general
conversation.
If
that's
you
know
reflective
of
what
you're.
D
Hearing
as
well
sure
100,
you're
100
right
on
the
mark,
mayor
Paul,
so
I
brought
up
the
ab
2011,
which
will
go
into
effect
by
next
July.
The
fact
that
the
current
draft
does
not
reflect
the
ab
2011
legislation
just
because
we,
when
we're
preparing
it,
it
wasn't
signed
into
law.
Yet
do
you
want
to
acknowledge
that
this
will
become
effective
hands?
My
question
for
hcd,
quite
frankly
to
the
members
of
community
hcd's
response
was
we
recognize
that
a
lot
of
cities
are
going
through
the
same
conundrum?
D
A
And
so,
if
I
may
and
I'll
call
in
hands
since
we're
at
the
council,
Diaz
part
portion
of
this
to
the
extent
I
see
them
first
question:
when
we
talk
about
the
30-day
comment
period
and
the
10-day
response
period
is,
that
is
that
is
that
it's
just
definitive
that
we
have
to
wait.
Those
40
days
before
submitting
that
initial
draft
is
that
correct.
A
Okay,
so
we
okay,
the
minimum,
would
be
40
at
this
point
and
there
was
some
follow-up
from
acting
director
Connolly
with
regard
to
the
timing
or
might
have
been
you
city
manager
who,
as
to
whether
we
can
submit
in
the
holiday
season,
not
submit,
but
rather
open
it
up
to
the
public.
We
sit
at
November
15th
here,
however,
and
so
you
know,
Thanksgiving
is
it's
true,
it's
a
week
and
two
days
away,
but
I
mean
what
kind
of
chances
do
we
have
if
we
were
to.
A
You
know
basically
tonight
give
you
direction
to
go
ahead
and
before
that
so-called
holiday
season,
before
next
Wednesday
essentially
be
able
to
release
it
to
the
public
great.
A
Great,
we
have
Vice
merchao
with
a
hand
raised
and
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
call
on
online
you're
on
you're
on.
E
Okay,
hi:
if
the
plan
is
to
open,
publish
on
the
Monday
I
assume,
the
draft
will
be
ready
to
be
published
on
Wednesday
and
I
would
prefer
that
we
open
make
the
job
available
before
the
holiday,
so
that
people
who
have
time
can
take
the
time
to
to
to
start
reviewing.
But
then
we
can
count
for
30
days
from
the
Monday.
So
we
give
people
a
little
more
time
and
not
counting
the
holiday
days
for
the
30
days.
E
I
think
that's
more
people
do
need
that
time
to
review
it's
good
to
give
them
a
few
more
days
and
and
also
I
would
like
it's
a
little
concerning
that
we
are
going
to
if
the
public,
a
draft
which
was
prepared
by
a
consultant
whom
I
think
for
people
who
have
worked
with
them,
know
their
work,
quality
and
so
I'm
concerned.
They
don't
know
the
region
of
the
city
or
what
the
council
or
the
community
has
in
mind.
So
I
think
there
are
two
options
can
I?
E
Can
we
get
some
confirmation
that
there
are
no
surprises
in
the
draft?
Every
policy
is
in
line
with
existing
CT
policies
and
or
we
could
form-
maybe
a
committee
of
council
to
at
least
double
check
to
to
be
sure
that
the
job
follow
existing
console
interaction
that
standards.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
out
and
you
know,
I
can
confirm,
for
my
part,
I
haven't
seen
the
draft
I've
asked
about
it,
but
I
haven't
actually
seen
the
draft
so
I'm,
assuming
that
others
on
Council
haven't
seen
the
draft
either
I
see
I
had
shake
head
shakes.
Okay,
any
any
feedback
from
vice
mayor
Chow's,
suggestion
and
question
Madam
city
manager
will.
D
Sure,
I
myself
have
not
seen
the
draft
itself
I
trust
that
acting
director
Connolly
has
reviewed
it,
but,
as
Luke
pointed
out,
it
is
a
draft
coming
from
the
prior
vendor.
I
wouldn't
say
that
this
is
a
hundred
percent,
the
draft
that
we
are
preparing
for
if
we
are
looking
at
forming
a
subcommittee
to
review
the
draft.
That's
certainly
doable,
however,
that
may
push
out
the
January
deadline.
A
Yeah
and
I
think
the
expectation
is
that
there
is
going
to
be
a
substantial
amount
of
modifications
to
that
draft.
But
we're
not
precluded
from
from
seeing
the
draft
right
from
of.
D
So
Council
can
certainly
direct
staff
to
publish
that
draft
tomorrow.
Maybe
we
don't
start
a
30-day
review
right
away,
or
maybe
we
do
a
35
days
or
40
days.
So
the
members,
the
public
and
city
council
can
see
the
published
the
draft
and
published
form.
We
just
I
mean
I
hate
to
burden
the
public
during
the
holiday
season
to
review
the
draft,
but
maybe
we
can
lengthen
the
public
review
time
to
allow
to
also
accommodate
a
holiday
schedule.
Okay,.
A
So
let's
ask
this
question
so,
as
we
sit
on
November
15th
and
we're
looking
at
potentially
two
weeks
from
yesterday,
what
was
staff
planning
under
the
staff
recommendation
of
doing
with
these
13
days
with
regard
to
if
we
were
to
authorize
the
publication
on
the
28th
of
November
on
that
Monday?
What
would
have
happened
in
this
intervening
time
say
nothing
changed
with
regard
to
form
a
subcommittee
or
releasing
it
to
the
public
or
giving
it
to
council
members.
You
know
beforehand.
What
would
staff
have
done
during
that
interview
time.
D
Sure
so
we
are
in
communication
with
the
future
vendor
right
now
we
would
like
to
take
their
feedback
and
especially
what
we
learned
this
morning
from
hcd
staff
this
morning,
some
of
a
very
constructive
criticism
or
feedback.
If
you
will
that
we
were
hoping
to
incorporate
that
in
the
next
few
weeks
before
the
administrative
draft
is
published
right.
A
And
just
you
know,
I
don't
want
people
to
think
that
was
a
Freudian
slip.
I
mean
it
was
I
thought
it
was
constructive
feedback.
I
didn't
hear
criticism.
The
only
thing
I
really
heard
was
basically
saying
get
that
draft
in
as
early
as
you
can
I
mean
that's.
Essentially
what
that
take
home
message
was
I.
A
As
well
and
I
know,
you're,
maybe
feeling
a
little
bit
under
the
weather,
and
we
thank
you
for
you
know
hanging
in
there,
but
you
did
fall
off
at
the
very
end
of
the
meeting.
Luke
and
Pew
I
believe
were
there
and
I
I
did
ask
that
question.
You
know
what
is
if
you
had
to
tell
us
one
take-home
message,
what
it
would
be
get
what
you
have
in
when
you
can
get
it
in
as
soon
as
quickly
right.
D
As
soon
and
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
that
and
I
think
I
heard,
the
rest
of
the
conversation
I
would
agree
with
that
mayor,
Paul
to
kind
of
answer.
Vice
mayor
child's
question,
I
wouldn't
necessarily
again
call
it
a
hundred
percent
substantially
compliant.
But
it
is
a
working
draft
that
the
prior
consultant
has
worked
hard.
K
A
This
may
be
the
reason
you
know
the
the
best
reason
to
have
had
this
interface
within
that
60
days
of
a
review
period
that
initial
60
days
hcd
has
been
willing,
in
some
cases,
to
interface
with
planning
departments
and
so
having
you
know
so
so,
just
to
be
clear,
I
mean
we
talked
to
the
senior
policy
analysts
as
well
as
the
two
people
that
apparently
will
be
reviewing
Santa
Clara
County
drafts
and
have
been,
and
so
having
that
interface
between
our
staff-
and
you
know,
hcd
probably
gives
us
a
bit
of
a
leg
up
on
being
able
to
have
that
set
of
conversations
on
that
ongoing
basis,
wouldn't
you're.
D
Absolutely
right
so
the
two
staffers
that
we
met
today
not
necessarily
are
reviewing
a
County
City,
a
housing
element.
They
will
be
reviewing
City
cupertino's.
J
D
Element-
and
they
also
mentioned
that,
if
possible,
they
could
do
a
check-in
within
30
days
to
give
us
feedback,
and
we
can
continue
to
work
on
these
comments.
We
could
do
another
follow-up
during
the
60
day
and
wrap
up
with
the
completion
of
the
90-day
review,
so
that
will
give
the
city
team
a
multiple
chance
to
talk
to
hcd
and
start
I
mean
once
the
draft
is
submitted,
doesn't
mean
that
we're
not
going
to
work
on
it.
A
A
To
right,
well,
when
is
the
timetable
looking
like
for
our
our
City's
work
on.
D
That
sure,
so,
if
we're
able
to
make
the
submittal
say
by
the
end
of
January,
take
the
full
90
days
from
hcd's
review
that
will
take
us
to
the
end
of
April
early
may-ish
give
staff
about
a
month
or
so
to
incorporate.
We
do
anticipate
a
go-to
Housing
Commission,
maybe
in
June
Planning
Commission
late,
June
early
July
and
it
will
come
to
council,
maybe
August
September.
M
A
N
So
what
what's
the
earliest
we
could
have
it
published
and
then,
with
regards
to
policy?
Is
there
I'm
going
to
assume
there's
already
some
policies
in
this
okay,
and
that
is
there?
If,
if
we
find
that
some
don't
seem
like
they're
going
to
work
for
us
that
we
can
alter
them
because
I
don't
want
to
feel
as
though
something
is
cast
in
stone
if
there's
actually,
some
alternative
means
that
we
can
do
of.
D
Course
so
the
early
is
that
we
can
publish
I,
don't
want
to
commit
tomorrow,
but
maybe
by
the
end
of
this
week,
the
policies
that
we
will
carry
some
of
the
existing
policies
from
around
the
current
housing
element
and
carry
them
forward
to
the
next
housing
element.
If
they're
not
applicable
anymore,
we'll
take
them
out,
we
might
be
needing
new
policies
to
implement
the
new
units
that
has
been
selected
by
Council.
Nothing
is
casted
in
stone
and
that's
why
this
is
a
draft.
D
D
Yeah
and
and
that's
absolutely
right,
so
the
planners
have
a
tendency
to
be
more
generic.
You
know
you
should
you
could
would
consider
a
possible
a
possibility.
Hcd's
feedback
is.
They
would
like
to
see
more
definitive
and
stronger,
more
solid
approach,
conduct
such
Outreach
meeting
to
possibly
engage
X
number
of
members
of
community.
A
D
Zoned
by
this
number,
so
so
those
are
the
the
takeaway
that
I
got
from
this
morning
as
well.
A
Yeah,
it
may
not
be
a
bad
thing,
I
mean
speaking
of
the
word,
may
I
mean
we've
gotten
into
a
little
bit
of
you
know
kind
of
a
braille
bush
in
in
our
own
City
with
that
not
so
long
ago.
So
we'll
go
back
councilman
more
before
we
had
councilmember.
Why
did
you
have
a
quick
follow-up.
N
N
I'm
trying
to
see
how
how
you
know
if,
if
we
can
alter
either
of
those
numbers,
if
we
can
alter
the
10-day
number
or
the
30,
is
there
some
Merit
to
doing
that
and
sounds
like
with
the
holidays?
Some
people
would
like
to
have
a
longer
stretch,
but
I
don't
know
if
it's
the
30
days
should
be
longer
or
the
10
days.
If
you
can
be
lengthened.
If
that
should
be.
O
Okay,
thank
you.
Mia
Paul,
so
I
have
three
questions.
The
first
one
just
a
confirmation.
This
is
the
document
include
I,
mean
there's
nothing
in
concrete.
You
submit
the
Draft
when
the
ACD
comments.
They
could
come
in
one
month.
You
know
in
between
and
we
can
still
do
the
adjustments
and
do
the
so.
It's
it's
I
like
that.
It's
work,
continuing,
look
refining,
it
that's
correct
and
the
second
is:
when
would
eir.
D
Kicking
great
question,
so
it
is
absolutely
right.
This
is
a
draft,
even
though
after
we
submitted
to
hcd,
we
will
still
have
the
opportunities
to
refine
it
in
terms
of
eir
we're
hoping
to
have
the
scoping
meeting
early
part
of
the
next.
F
D
So
January,
if
not
February,
so
eir
is
a
longer
process.
You
need
to
have
the
contract
scoping
meeting
and
then
we'll
have
a
series
of
meeting
right
now
we're
still
in
the
contractual
obligation
with
the
vendor.
O
D
So,
for
the
30
days,
a
30-day
calendar
days
for
any
members
to
submit
their
comments,
10
business
days
for
staff,
to
incorporate
those
comments
that
have
been
received
during
the
public
review
period
into
the
draft.
I
understood
that
this
is
going
to
be
a
very
aggressive
timeline.
If
a
lot
of
comments
are
given
so
we'll
try
our
best
to
incorporate
those
comments.
O
A
You
yeah
great
thanks
very
much
councilmember
Willie
did
you
have
anything
sure.
C
Looking
at
the
clock,
you
know
don't
have
all
that
much
time
left,
but
that
being
the
case,
I'll
kind
of
focus
on
the
the
item
of
interest
to
me,
and
so
I'll
start
by
saying
you
know
Luke.
Thank
you
very
much
for
a
nice
presentation.
C
Thank
you
for
moving
this
along
so
quickly
and
I
think
our
housing
sites
that
we
identified
you
know
in
those
previous
meetings
looked
pretty
reasonable
to
all
of
us.
At
that
meeting
you
know
I
brought
up.
You
know
that
I
see
that
I
think
there's
opportunity
on
bub
Road,
and
so
in
that
respect,
I'd
like
to
kind
of
focus
my
comments,
you
know
just
reminding
that
you
know
Bub
road
is,
you
know,
just
a
block
away
from
De
Anza
College.
C
C
That
being
said,
we
set
up
the
subcommittee,
the
mayor
and
I,
and
we've
been
reaching
out.
That
subcommunity
was
tasked
with
the
east
side
of
bub
Road
and
those
were
then
included
in
the
sequa
which
to
me
that's
great,
because
now
we've
kind
of
prepped
our
housing
element
with
the
ability
to
to
handle
that
all
that
being
said,
I'm
very
optimistic
and
I
think
I
feel
I
have
good
news
of
the
property
owners
that
have
been
reached
out
to
I've
heard
back
from
one.
C
That
clearly
says
they
want
to
be
a
part
of
the
housing
element,
0.89
Acres
and,
to
me
that's
a
great
signal
to
start
this.
You
know
potential
Vision,
but
even
more
important
than
that
I
think
is.
That
should
be
helping
all
the
residents
that
were
telling
us
reduce
the
Reliance
on
the
pipeline
projects.
And
how
do
you
do
that
when
we
have
scrubbed
the
city
so
well?
Well,
bub
road
is
27
Acres,
not
including
results
way.
C
The
results
way
is
another
nine
acres
and
so
by
presenting
hcd
with
our
package,
a
vision
for
a
significant
area
of
our
city
that
is
intended
to
meet
the
the
intent
of
the
sixth
housing
cycle.
I
think
that's
going
to
help
hcd,
say
wow!
These
guys
are
really
going
Beyond
just
sticking
pins
on
a
map
and
saying
stick
five
here:
stick
30
there!
No!
These!
These
people
are
looking
at
how
they
can
move
their
City
into
the
next
transition.
C
That
being
said
at
the
end
of
the
council
meeting
tonight,
because
I
don't
think
I
can
do
it
here
and
don't
think
I'm
allowed
to
do
it
here,
but
I'll
request
for
an
agenda
item
for
the
December
6th
so
that
we
as
a
council
can
decide
if
we're
going
to
add
this
additional
site
to
our
housing
element,
not
removing
anything.
That's
already
been
identified
and
put
in
our
site
selection,
but
adding
this
adding
this
as
another
location
and
a
an
amount
of
housing
per
our
original
32.
A
A
Should
wrap
so
I'm
good,
okay
city
manager
had
her
microphone
turned
on?
Did
you
want
to
just.
D
A
Okay,
well
under
advisement
and
so
I
think
I
think,
let's
go
ahead.
We
did
say
that
we
would
get
back
to
vice
mayor,
Chao
and
so
Vice
merchao
did
you
have
a
follow-up
at
this
time
and
just
keeping
in
mind
our
our
time
in
substance?
Maybe
you
could
give
just
a
very
brief
summary
of
what
it
is
that
you
wanted
to
follow
up
on
at
this
time.
E
So
I
think
it's
January.
20Th
deadline
sounds
good
as
January
17th
is
a
console
meeting,
so
I
am
hoping
that
a
draft
revised
draft
will
be
on
the
console
agenda
on
January
17th
before
it's
submitted
and
I
did
not
hear
any
confirmation
from
anyone
who
has
seen
the
draft
that
the
policies
do
align
with
existing
City
policies
and
I
get
at
least
that
confirmation
I'm
very
concerned,
because
EMC
proposed
the
stakeholder
group
that
was
not
used
by
any
city.
Until
today,
people
are
still
accusing
us
of
not
following
what
they
propose.
I
just.
A
F
Yes,
I
I
have
seen
it
I
I,
believe
all
aspects
of
it
are
going
to
need
revisions,
so
I
I'm
not
going
to
say,
since
the
policies
have
not
been
reviewed
by
any
commission
or
city
council
I'm,
not
going
to
say
the
draft
policies
that
are
in
the
document
prepared
by
EMC
meet
the
city
standards.
At
this
time
I'm
just
saying
we
have
a
complete
draft
document
that
could
be
presented
to
hcd
and
is
not
locking
us
into
anything.
That's
in
that
document
at
all,
it
can
be
fully
revised
again.
F
A
E
I
think
it's
fair
to
say
public.
If
we
don't
follow
any
of
the
recommendations
like
we
have
being
accused
by
the
public,
because
EMC
proposed
this
stakeholder
group
that
wasn't
used
by
anyone
in
any
City,
so
I
am
just
afraid.
Even
though
we
are
not
committed,
we
could
get
accused
if
they
propose
something
just
imagined
they.
They
imagine
a
policy
that
we
simply.
A
Well,
thank
you.
Vice
mayor
I'm,
going
to
go
to
council
member
Moore,
I'm
I
am
going
to
ask
for
a
motion
at
this
time
and
so
councilmember.
Do
you
have
a
motion
to
put
on
the
table.
N
D
N
Okay,
but
I'm
I'm,
counting
like
nine
weeks
from
the
18th
to
the
20th,
is
that
right
and
then
you've
got
at
least
a
30-day
review
period
and
then
you'll
have
at
least
a
10
day
case
right
I
mean
that's,
that's
we
actually
have
more
time.
The.
A
A
Sounds
right:
okay,
so
you're
talking
about
the
20th!
It
should
be
about
right,
it's
a
couple
months
and
there
are
30
days
in
November,
so
31
in
December,
so
you're
talking
about
61,
if
it's
two
months
and
so
you're
talking
about
from
18th
to
20th
to
add
another
yeah,
that's
63
days
that
should
be
63
days,
Friday
to
Friday
right.
D
N
A
A
A
So
we
got
a
motion
and
a
second
on
the
table.
We
still
have
a
hand
raised
from
you
vice
mayor
child.
Did
you
want
to.
E
Yeah
I
don't
want
to
try
a
potential
Amendment
and
I
want
to
add
that
January,
17th
I
hope.
A
draft
revised
draft
is
put
on
the
console
agenda
on
before
it
goes
out
to
hcd
of
the
20s.
A
E
E
D
A
Vice
versaille:
are
you
looking
for
direction?
Are
you
looking
for
availability
for
just
being
able
to
view
it.
A
D
L
N
I
want
to
do
a
little
bit
of
clarifying,
so
the
recommended
action
is
to
direct
staff
to
publish
the
draft
housing
element
in
that
we
want
it
published
on
Friday,
November
18th
and
to
solicit
feedback
for
30
days.
Okay,
so
we're
I
probably
want
to
strike
this
a
little
bit
or
modify
it
so
for
at
least
30
days.
N
Okay,
so
I'm
modifying
my
original
motion
and
to
incorporate
comments
received
in
the
draft
housing
element
and
submit
the
document
to
the
state,
Housing
and
Community
Development
Department
hcd
for
review,
and
that
would
be
on
January,
20th
2023.
So
just
to
clarify
the
the
10-day
period
is
for
what
again
the.
D
10-Day
period,
calendar
I'm,
sorry
business
days
is
to
incorporate
those
Commons
that
staff
received
within
the
30-day
public
review
period.
If
we
did
not
receive
anything,
then
10
days
is
more
than
plenty,
but
if
we
received
a
substantial
amount
that
will
be
very
aggressive
to
incorporate
all
the
changes.
Okay,.
N
D
A
23.,
thank
you
councilmember
Moore
and
vice
mayor
Chao
as
council
member
Moore
describes
the
amended
motion.
Do
you
accept
that
as
the
original
secondary.
E
A
C
You
know,
Bub
Road
possibility
is
important
enough
that
if
we
did
have
a
very
short
meeting
to
discuss
and
potentially
add
it
to
the
tier
one,
either
late
this
week
or
early
next
week,
is
that
acceptable?
Well,.
A
I
think
you
should
First
Direct
that
to
me
as
the
chair
of
the
meeting.
There
are
actually
three
of
us
that
are
not
going
to
be
in
town
for
the
rest
of
the
week
following
tomorrow,
because
the.
A
League
of
cities
is
taking
place
out
of
town
now
we
could
still
hold
a
virtual
meeting.
That's
true
under
the
current
protocols
and
conditions,
but
I
think
it
might
be
a
little
bit
difficult
to
to
to
to
navigate
that
next
week
is
Thanksgiving
week.
For
my
own
part,
you
know
my
kids
are
out
of
you
know
School
the
entire
week,
and
so
we're
going
on
on
vacation,
which
is
not
to
say
again.
We
couldn't
have
a
virtual
meeting.
A
So
if
it
were
a
single
item,
special
meeting
I
think
maybe
check
in
with
the
city
manager.
That's
that's
my
own
input,
I
wouldn't
be
able
to
moderate
a
discussion
in
a
hybrid
environment.
Live
is,
is
my
feedback.
A
Okay,
councilmember
Moore
is
shaking
her
head,
so
it
seems
like
there
isn't
that
appetite
from
the
from
the
movement
to
go
ahead
and
consider
the
movement
from
tier
two
tier
one
for
the
bud
Road
Site
you're,
referring
to
councilmer
Willie,
okay.
Well,
let
me
just
try
to
tie
up
the
loose
end
on
this
Madam
city
manager.
Is
there
any
ability
or
Mr,
City
attorney
or
acting
development
director
Connolly?
A
Is
there
any
possibility
for
this
particular
site
under
the
rubric
of
what
we've
set
forth
here
in
the
perspective
motion
to
be
voted
upon?
Could
that
still
be
considered
for
movement
from
tier
two
to
tier
one
sometime
before
submission
on
January,
20th
and
I?
Note
that
it
is
an
appreciable
amount
of
time
between
now
and
then
I
mean
we
are
talking
about
I,
believe
you
know
two
two
months
in
a
couple
of
days
so.
A
L
Is
required
to
to
review
comments
and
take
those
into
account.
Anybody
who
was
interested
in
those
sites
would
have
the
opportunity
to
make
a
comment
during
that
30-day
period.
A
Okay
and
so
clarifying
question
from
council
member
Moore
on
this
okay.
N
So,
with
regards
to
properties
which
are
on
tier
one
or
tier
two,
it
was
my
understanding
that
they
are
all
getting
studied
in
the
eir
and
when
we
do
our
final
kind
of
approval
of
the
housing
element.
Even
if
something
was
on
tier
two,
it
can
be
moved
to
tier
one
right
because
it
will
have
been
studied
within
the
the
universe
of
property.
D
A
Okay,
thank
you,
madam
see
measure.
Is
that
also
your
understanding,
City
attorney
in
terms
of
the
interchangeability
between
tier
two
and
tier
one
yeah.
L
F
A
L
A
Fair
enough,
we
said
a
641
and
so
I
don't
see
any
further
hands
raised
additional
hands.
Further
I
should
say
vice
mayor
Chao
is
now
waving
at
me,
physically,
in
addition
to
her
or
at
the
on
Zoom
I
should
say
in
addition
to
the
zoom
hand
race.
So
so
vice
versa.
Did
you
have
any
concluding
thoughts
before
we
take
a
vote
on
this
item?.
E
To
clarify
so
the
draft
housing
element
will
include
the
terawatt
and
tier
2
site
right
and
if
people
make
comment
during
the
commenting
period,
it's
likely
to
revise
the
draft
which
we
will
review
on
January
17th.
My
consider
certain
sites
to
be
moved
to
tier.
A
D
So
Lou
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
I
believe
we
will
only
be
including
tier
one
in
the
draft
document.
The
eir
will
include
both
tears.
Oh
tier
one
and
tier
two.
Yes,.
A
E
A
So
essentially,
if
we
were
wanting
to
do
it
again
and
if
it
were
in
some
kind
of
modification
or
feedback
from
from
hcd,
we
would
have
to
kick
in
the
review
period
again.
Then,
okay,
so.
G
E
A
I'm
not
sure
that
that
comports,
with
the
understanding
of
what's
being
expressed
here,
I
I,
think
if
you
have
a
site
in
East
undergo
30-day
review
period.
And.
E
L
City
attorney
no
I,
don't
think
there's
a
special
rule
that
requires
a
site
change
to
have
30-day
review.
I
think
that
the
issue
on
the
in
the
17th
would
be
that
you
know,
if
there's
an
expectation
that
the
city
is
is
going
to
be
submitting
on
January
20th.
L
A
Well,
why
don't
we
do
this?
Can
you
do
anything
between
now
and
Friday
in
terms
of
the
language
of
the
draft
document
to
injected
notion
that
tier
two
could
potentially
be
considered
during
this?
You
know
period
of
time
before
we
submit
I
I,
think
that's
something
that
could
be.
You
know
perhaps
Wordsmith
over
the
course
of
the
next
three
days.
D
I,
given
that
we
only
have
three
days
before
the
Friday
I
would
respectfully
ask
not
to
do
that.
That
is
a
big
undertaking,
because
it's
not
just
above
Road,
it's
everything
else.
A
A
Ahead
and
call
the
I
do
see,
council
member
way
has
a
hand
raised
and
I
apologize
to
our
members
of
the
public.
I
know
we're
at
6
45
here,
but
bear
with
me
one
more
minute.
Councilmember
way.
Do
you
have
a
comment
on
this
or.
O
Do
you
real
fast,
I
I,
don't
think
the
point
of
discussion
is
necessarily
because
once
we
get
the
hcd's
feedback,
we
can
switch
tier
one
two
two.
We
do
plenty
of
opportunity
opportunities
to
do
that
so
I
do
think.
Time
is
of
essence
and
we
should
go
ahead
and
with
the
vote.
A
K
A
I
think
I
think
I.
Think
the
elements
of
consideration
are
on
the
table
right
now.
So
let's
go
ahead
without
any
further
hands
raised
points
well
taken
Madam
city
clerk.
Could
you
please
take
a
roll
call
vote
on
the
motion
that
is
on
the
table
now.
B
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Madam
city
clerk
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
adjourn
the
special
meeting
that
special
meeting
is
adjourned.
It
is
now
6
46.
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
start
the
regular
meeting
at
6
50.,
okay,
so
just
to
give
people
a
brief
transitional
period.
So
we
will
see
you
in
three
minutes.
Thanks
very
much.
A
Is
everyone
ready?
Oh
welcome.
We
have
a
great
packed
house
here
today
and
Community
Hall
in
Cupertino.
It
is
November
15th.
This
is
our
regularly
scheduled
city
council
meeting
the
second
one
in
November
2022,
and
so
if
everyone
could
join
us
in
pledging
allegiance
to
our
nation's
flag.
Thank
you
please
rise.
Thank
you.
Pledge
allegiance
of.
A
B
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
Madam
city
clerk,
okay.
So
our
first
item
tonight
in
our
regular
meeting
is
under
ceremonial
matters
and
presentations.
We
have
three
Proclamation
sets
to
provide
our
first.
One
is
a
proclamation
for
United
against
hate
week,
and
this
comes
out
of
the
jurisdiction
that
our
City
attorney
had
previously
come
from
from
Berkeley
and
I.
Understand
that
we
have
a
member
of
the
mayor's
staff
welcome
here,
to
accept
the
proclamation
Anthony
Rodriguez
from
I.
Believe
your
Chief
of
Staff
to
Mayor
again.
Is
that
correct.
A
A
senior
advisor
okay,
climbing
the
ladder-
okay,
very
good,
well
welcome,
Anthony
and
so
we'll
go
ahead.
Do
you
have
any
words
to
share
about
United
against
hate
week?
We
do
have
a
packed
audience
here,
so
you
have
our
wrapped
attention
and
it's
a
very
important
message
to
share.
P
Well,
thank
you
so
much
mayor
Paul
and
thank
you
all
for
her
attending
and
for
passing
this
Proclamation
on
behalf
of
co-founders
Jacqueline,
McCormick
and
Patrice
O'neill,
the
organization
not
in
our
town
and
the
organizers
of
United
against
hate
week,
Northern
California
I'd
like
to
extend
our
deepest
appreciation
and
gratitude
to
the
city
of
Cupertino
for
their
commitment
to
standing
up
against
hate
beyond
the
symbolism
of
this
Proclamation.
P
This
act
taken
by
the
city
demonstrates
our
Collective
Region's
growing,
unified
support
to
come
together
as
one
to
pacify
and
stop
acts
of
hatred
in
its
various
forms,
as
it
precipitates
in
our
communities
on
average
bias,
motivated
incidences
have
increased
in
major
U.S
cities
by
39
and
in
the
largest
10
U.S
cities
by
54.5
percent.
The
bulk
of
this
increase
has
been
directed
at
Asian,
black
and
Jewish
residents.
P
However,
we
can
do
something
at
the
local
level
among
local
communities
to
make
a
change
that
can
be
felt
in
people's
lives.
Unite
against
hate
is
a
call
to
action
to
bring
diverse
communities
together
to
stop
the
spread
of
hate
again
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
your
ongoing
support
of
United
against
hate
week
now
in
our
fifth
year,
the
week
of
events
that
spans
from
November
13th
to
the
19th
and
includes
organizations
and
communities
to
the
sum
of
over
200.
P
working
together,
we
can
be
stronger
than
hate
and,
with
that
being
said,
I'd
like
to
extend
a
warm
invitation
to
you
all
to
join
the
city
of
Berkeley's.
Signature
unite
against
hate
week
event.
Tomorrow
on
Wednesday
November
17th
at
6
30,
we
will
be
welcoming
guests
at
the
UC
theater
for
screening
and
discussion
of
repairing
the
world
stories
from
the
Tree
of
Life.
This
90-minute
documentary
film
highlights
the
city
of
Pittsburgh's
inspiring
action
in
the
aftermath
of
the
assault
on
three
congregations
at
the
Tree
of
Life
synagogue.
P
A
A
If
you
can
hear
us,
please
turn
on
your
camera
as
well,
and
then
council,
member
Moore,
who
for
social
distancing
purposes,
doesn't
have
the
zoom
camera
we'll
be
joining
my
panel
Square
here
we'll
go
ahead
and
provide
this
and
I
don't
see
like
oh
vice
mayor
child
is
here
great,
so
perhaps
vice
mayor
Chow,
you
can
join
either
our
city
manager
or
councilman
away
or
Council
Willie.
A
You
can
even
kind
of
photo
bomb
back
here
in
front
of
all
right,
great
all
right.
Everyone,
big
smiles.
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
and
Anthony
Good
Luck
on
all
your
endeavors
this
year
for
UAH,
as
well
as
in
all
future
years
and.
A
Okay,
our
second
Proclamation
tonight
is
for
small
business,
Saturday
and
I'm
very
pleased
to
be
able
to
welcome
several
members
of
our
business
community
and
so
I'll.
Ask
our
Council
as
well.
City
manager
join
me
on
the
diocese
with
Vicky
Tsai
of
Dry
Clean
Pro,
Efren,
Flores
of
of
of
holder's
country.
In
we
have
Thalia
Swang
chin
of
pineapple
Thai.
We
have
Kishore
mua
of
China
Indian
Supermarket.
A
We
have
Gloria
yo
and
Lucas
Liu
of
sun
Design
Center,
and
so
we
have
this
wonderful
melange
of
local
small
businesses,
and
so,
if
you
all
could
join
us,
we
would
love
to
be
able
to
present
these
proclamations
to
you
for
small
business.
Saturday.
All
right
come
on
up
guys.
A
A
Okay,
so
so
very
briefly,
a
small
business
Saturday
is
an
encouragement
of
everyone
in
the
Saturday
after
Thanksgiving.
We
all
know
that
Friday
after
Thanksgiving
is
a
very
large
shopping
day
throughout
the
country,
but
small
business
Saturday
was
created
not
so
very
long
ago
to
make
sure
that
the
local
small
businesses
are
supported,
and
so,
once
again
we
have
a
number
of
excellent
small
businesses
throughout
the
community
of
Cupertino
represented.
Here
we
have
trinithra
Indian
Supermarket.
A
We
have
holders
Country
Inn,
which
I
had
the
pleasure
of
seeing
and
having
breakfast
there
yesterday,
and
everyone
was
great
to
talk
to
you
there.
It
is
now
in
the
location
of
I'm
blanking
on
the
name
of
the
the
Steins
Beer
Garden
right,
like
so
so
excellent
location,
really
glad
to
see
you
relocate
from
San
Jose
to
Cupertino.
It's
wonderful
for
us
to
see
that
Vicki
Dry,
Clean,
Pro
stalwart
of
our
community
for
many
many
years,
and
so
for
34
years
for.
A
Going
on
the
fourth
decade,
Thalia
a
business
that
opened
in
Cupertino
I
think
just
into
the
pandemic
and
managed
not
just
to
to
make
it
but
to
strive
and
contribute
very
heavily
to
the
city
of
Cupertino
of
the
years.
You
we
all
know
the
many
contributions
your
restaurant
and
you
have
made
two
Cupertino
in
the
last
several
years:
Sun
Design
Center
in
case
people
are
looking
to
help
spruce
up
their
homes.
There
are
plenty
of
options
available
there.
A
A
Thanks
very
much
yes
I,
just
just
very
quickly
on
a
plug.
We
actually
have
a
ribbon
cutting
sponsored
by
the
city
at
holder's
country
and
tomorrow
morning,
at
8
30.,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
newest
you
know
small
business
in
Cupertino
gets
supported
and
we
will
go
ahead
and
help
that
out,
as
well
as
the
entirety
of
the
local
economy.
A
All
right
thanks,
let's
go
on
to
the
next
Proclamation,
which
is
for
svks,
which
stands
for
Silicon
Valley
Korean
school
I'll
go
ahead
and
stay
up
here
with
this
microphone
we
have
I
believe
we
were
told
28
students
here
or
perhaps
more
I
have
a
very
considerable
stack
of
certificates
here
for
the
students-
and
there
was
you
know
previously,
a
request
to-
or
at
least
in
past
practice
we
had
read
all
the
names,
but
in
the
interest
of
time
we
are
going
to
put
this
on
the
screen
and
we're
going
to
provide
an
opportunity
for
Miss
Kim.
A
The
principle
of
the
Korean
school
we'll
go
ahead.
Oh
and
I
should
have
asked
the
city,
council
and
city
managers
to
stay
up
with
us
to
provide
these
to
your
students,
but
if
your
students
would
like
to
come
up
on
the
dice
and
take
a
group
shot
as
well
and
if
you
or
a
student
would
like
to
provide
a
brief
presentation
or
a
set
of
remarks
that
could
stay
within
a
few
minutes,
I
will
go
ahead
and
provide
you
these
and
yeah.
Please.
A
Q
I'm
the
principal
purpose
care,
first
of
all,
okay
for
our
school
okay
I
would
like
to
thank
mayor,
Darcy,
Paul
and
then
Vice
May
vice
mayor,
Liang,
Chao
and
all
of
you
know,
city
council,
members
for
inviting
us
to
the
city
council
meeting.
Thank
you
so
much.
Today's
order
ceremony
is
very
meaningful
for
us,
because
you
know
the
city
recognizes
our
volunteer's
dedication
to
the
community.
Do
you
know
how
many
hours
do
they
volunteer
for
this
service
award.
Q
300
hours,
yeah,
so
yeah
so
I
would
like
to
you
know.
I
would
like
to
say
thank
you
for
all
of
our
volunteers,
who
worked
very
hard
for
300
hours
and
also
to
the
parents
who
supported
our
volunteers
for
four
years.
Thank
you
so
much,
okay
on
behalf
of
our
35
honorees,
so
our
representative
of
volunteers,
seon,
Kim
and
clearly
are
going
to
have
a
speech.
Okay,
all
right.
A
Q
A
M
Silicon
Valley
Korean
school
has
always
been
a
special
place
for
us.
Having
been
a
student
myself
until
my
move
to
Korea
in
second
grade
I
returned
to
the
school
as
a
volunteer
when
I
moved
back
to
the
U.S
at
the
beginning
of
high
school
I
was
able
to
make
good
use
of
my
fluency
in
Korean
and
the
knowledge
of
Korean
literature
I
gained
in
Korea
helping
students
in
the
advanced
7th
grade
class.
For
the
past
three
years
until
I
became
the
volunteer
team
leader.
M
A
Okay,
this
is
what
I
suggest
we
do.
Let
us
give
a
certificate
to
every
student
here
and
we'll
take
a
big
group
shot.
Do
not
take
your
own
certificate
because
that's
going
to
take
too
long
to
figure
out
who
matches
with
each
one
and
then
perhaps
you
can
give
all
of
them
to
your
instructor.
They
could
be
diffied
out
afterward.
A
O
A
All
right,
thank
you.
Everyone,
congratulations,
keep
up
the
great
work
and
video
I'm,
not
sure
if
you've
done
this
already,
but
we
promised
a
shot
of
all
the
students
on
the
screen,
and
so
if
you
share
that
as
well,
much
appreciated.
A
All
right,
folks,
in
an
effort
to
make
sure
that
we
stay
healthy,
we
are
limiting
the
amount
of
non-social
distancing
in
our
agendas
and
so
we're
going
to
take
a
15
minute
break
right
now
to
allow
a
couple
of
our
council
members
to
take
the
zoo
meeting
from
a
remote
location,
and
so
I
see
seven
about
seven
ten
on
the
clock
here
in
Community
Hall.
So
we
will
reconvene
at
7,
25
and
so
we'll
see
you,
then
all
right
talk
to
you
soon.