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Coverage of the September 28, 2021 Cupertino Planning Commission Teleconference Meeting.
A
A
B
Hello,
everybody
welcome
to
the
city
of
cupertino
planning,
commission
meeting
for
tuesday
september
28th
2021.
As
you
know,
this
is
a
teleconference
meeting
and
used
to
stop
the
spread
of
covet
19
in
accordance
with
governor
newsome's
executive
order.
B
This
will
be
teleconference
meeting
without
a
physical
location
to
help
stop
the
spread
of
coveted
knight
team
if
you're
participating
and
participating
on
the
zoom
link,
we'll
give
you
an
opportunity
to
engage
by
raising
your
hand
as
we
get
to
that
through
the
public
period
and,
of
course,
always
send
your
email
comments
by
5
pm
on
tuesday
of
the
meeting
and,
of
course,
if
you're
doing
email
comments
during
the
time
for
public
committee
comment,
the
staph
liaison
will
read
the
emails
into
the
record
and
display
any
attachments
that
are
along
the
way.
E
B
Okay
with
that,
we've
got
our
tenants
yeah.
Let's
do
approval
of
minutes
so
approved
the
september
14th
planning
commission
meeting
minutes
recommended
action
approved
september
14
planning.
Commission
minutes.
Do
we
have?
Has
everyone
had
a
chance
to
read
it?
Let's
start
there
and
if
so,
does
anyone
have
to
make
a
motion.
C
B
All
right
with
that,
I
guess
we'll
call
for
a
vote
so
sorry
about
yours.
D
Before
I
do
that,
I
do
see
a
hand
raised,
so
I'm
not
sure
if
that
is
in
reference
to
the
meeting
minutes
or
if
that
is
for
one
of
the
items
on
the
agenda.
B
I
know
we
can
ask
okay,
if
you
want
I'll
put
in.
I
think
that
is
for
lisa
warren
lisa.
Is
this
related
to
the
minute
items,
or
is
this
for
something
later
for
another
gen
item.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Let's
call
vote
to
approve
the
minutes.
F
H
F
B
Okay,
wonderful,
all
right!
So
let's
go
to
any
postponements.
I
don't
think
we
have
any
of
those
let's
go
to
any
oral
communications
and
open
that
up.
This
portion
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
commission
on
any
matter
within
the
jurisdiction
of
the
commission
and
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
are
limited
to
three
minutes
and
in
most
cases,
state
laws
will
prohibit
the
commission
from
making
any
decision
with
respect
to
a
matter
not
on
the
agenda.
G
Okay
thanks,
so
I
have
mentioned
this
in
meetings
before
I
can't
recall
if
I
did
it
in
a
planning
commission
meeting.
I
was
just
asked
a
question
by
a
new
neighbor
and
it
prompted
me
to
realize
that
it
needs
to
be
said
often
until
it
sinks
in
and
there's
some
comment
from
someone
that
makes
me
feel
me
and
others
feel
that
it's
understood
and
going
to
be
taken
care
of
properly.
So
with
that,
I
will
say
what
it
is.
G
When
main
street
was
project
was
approved.
There
was
a
limit
to
the
number
of
restaurants.
They
could
have
a
percentage
of
the
retail,
I
believe
it
was,
and
the
target
building
is
of
concern
because
that's
building
number
six,
the
asas
and
it's
titled,
major
retail,
which
is
in
my
mind.
I
remember
it
being
that
that's
always
to
remain
retail,
meaning
real
retail,
not
restaurants,
and
I
have
just
need
everyone
to
be
on
the
same
page
that
whatever
replaces
target,
I
don't
believe
it
could
be,
should
be
a
restaurant.
G
G
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
staff
in
every
level
and
the
commissioners
and
city
council
members
follow
the
original
rules
and
they
don't
get
lost
in
the
mix
like
they
often
do,
particularly
with
certain
developers.
It's
a
bad
habit,
and
I
so
point
being
target
should
not
be
replaced
by
one
or
more
restaurants.
B
Okay
lisa.
Thank
you
for
that.
I
think
a
question
to
staff:
is
there
any
way
to
check
in
on
the
zoning
requirements
for
unit
six
in
the
asa?
I
think
that'd
be
a
good
way
to
kind
of
understand
that.
H
Yes,
so
if
when
and
if
any
proposal
is
made
for
the
target
space,
we
will
obviously
be
making
sure
that
any
use
permit
conditions
that
apply
to
that
particular
building
would
be
applicable
to
any
future
uses
and
if
anything
is
proposed
that
doesn't
fit
within
that
use.
Permit,
then
that
would
be
a
modification
of
that
project
would
be
required
and
would
be
presented.
B
H
So
there
had
nothing
has
been
exceeded
for
what
that
center
was
approved
with
in
terms
of
restaurants,
and
there
is
a
parking
requirement
that
kind
of
limits
how
much
certain
uses
they
can
have,
and
so
at
any
time
that
they
want
to
go
beyond
what
is
allowed.
That
would
be
presented
as
a
project
amendment
and
proposed
by
the
developer
if
they
wish
to
do
that.
Okay,.
B
I
think
that
should
clear
things
up
and
hopefully
give
people
some
perspective
great.
Let's
move
to
our
next
speaker,
jenny,
griffin,.
C
I
thank
you
chair
when
wong
hi.
This
is
jennifer
griffin
and
I
sent
an
email
to
the
city
council
into
planning.
Commission
governor
newsome
signed
us
before
78
this
afternoon,
which
is
a
high
density
housing
bill
that
will
eliminate
a
city's
minimum
lot
size
and
change
the
far
on
the
lot,
even
the
california
department
of
finance
recommended
against
passing
this
bill.
Yet
the
governor
signed
it.
Why?
Why
did
he
sign
sb9
and
sb10?
C
C
It
works
off
of
rezoned
properties
of
two
or
more
houses,
wow
guess
what
sb9
does
it
makes
every
lot
in
california,
a
four
or
more
house
lot
and
then
allows
sb
478
to
be
invoked
off
of
that.
So
what
is
this
serial
zoning
serial
housing
bills?
One
works
off
the
back
of
another
who
are
they
trying
to
confuse
or
deceive
the
public
seniors
who
live
in
neighborhoods
seniors
who
live
in
hoas?
I
really
wonder
where
the
governess
is
going
in.
C
This
state
sacramento
seems
to
be
on
the
road
to
some
sort
of
communist
social
far-left
state.
Maybe
it's
time
to
change
parties,
if
you
don't
like
where
the
democratic
party
is
going
or
that
you
think
it
has
been
taken
over
by
some
sort
of
secret
ruling
society
change
parties,
you
can
become
an
independent
or
maybe
join
another
party.
The
democratic
party
in
california
is
not
the
only
one,
it
sure
seems
to
be
on
the
road
to
iraq
and
ruin
in
the
way
it
is
ruling
yes,
misruling
the
state.
Thank
you
very
much.
B
Thank
you,
jenny
appreciate
your
comments.
We
got
a
hand
raised
here
from
our
commissioner
mooney
maripo.
You've
got
a
comment.
F
Yeah,
so
it's
more
of
a
question
to
the
staff-
and
maybe
you
know,
planning
manager
regarding
the
retail
and
you
know
the
mix
at
any
given
location
or
a
property.
Isn't
there
city
guidelines?
That's
because
at
the
end
of
the
day
you
know
we
want
to
know
all
businesses
in
that
location
to
succeed
right.
We
don't
want
too
much
competition
and
you
know-
and
you
know,
kind
of
a
business
constantly
churning
and
you
know
failing
and
churning.
F
So
don't
you
have
some
guidelines
that
says
you
know
for
this
size
of
x,
size
of
a
property
location.
For
you
know
commercial
white
percentage
should
be.
You
know
the
restaurants
and,
depending
on
you
know
all
the
other
factors
like
you
know,
residents
and
you
know,
and
the
food
traffic
and
all
that
stuff.
H
H
For
example,
you
can't
have
more
than
50
percent
of
the
spaces
in
the
shopping
center
be
occupied
by
child
care
uses,
or
you
know,
or
karate
classes
or
vocational
training
classes
or
gyms.
H
You
similarly
can't
have
more
than
25
percent
of
the
shopping
center
be
occupied
by
professional
offices,
and
you
know,
unless
a
use
from
a
separate
use
permit
is
provided
for,
but
in
general,
if
you
are
commercial
uses,
there's
certain
commercial
uses
which
include
restaurants,
you
know
any
kind
of
other
shopping
in
general,
general
retail
stuff.
All
of
those
are
allowed
without
any
limitations.
As
long
as
you
can
meet
the
parking
requirements
of
that
particular
center
or
the
mix
of
uses
that
you
provide.
F
F
So
so,
if
there
is
enough
parking,
can
some
commercial
property
or
a
development
can
it
have?
You
know
every
space
in
that
you
know
property
to
be
at
just
a
restaurant.
H
So
you
could
have
a
building
have
a
hundred
percent
restaurant?
If
you
have,
you
know
the
parking
that's
available
for
it.
Yes,.
F
So
but
what
about
other
constraints
like
you
know
the
restaurants
produce?
You
know
a
lot
of
you
know
what
you
call
waste
right,
like
you
know
the
drainage
and
and
stuff
with
the
food
waste
and
stuff
like
that,
you
know
so
our
doors
are
like
water
consumption
right.
So
so
do
we
take
those
into
consideration
at
all.
H
Yeah
so
essentially
what
they
all
have
requirements.
They
all
have
standards
that
are
required
by
environmental
health
or
by
our
storm
water
protection
standards
or
our
cities.
You
know
recycling
lease
diversion
requirements,
so
there
are
other
regulations
that
dictate
all
of
that.
B
Okay,
with
no
other
questions,
let's
move
on
to
our
next
item
on
the
agenda,
so
we'll
move
that
over
so
we're
going
to
move
to
number
two.
I
don't
think
there's
anything
on
written
communications,
just
one
double
check
so.
B
H
Good
evening
planning
commission,
thank
you,
chair
wong,
for
introducing
the
item,
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
general
plan,
amendment
administrative
amendments
that
have
been
proposed
tonight
in
general.
You
gave
a
very
good
overview
of
what
was
being
considered.
H
It
is
basically
to
add
some
amendments
to
the
general
plan
to
add
clarity
to
existing
language
in
the
land
use
element,
including
in
three
specific
areas,
which
is
figure,
lu2
policy,
lu-1.1
and
goal
lu-13
and,
to
just
add
one
word,
to
add
emphasis
to
existing
language
in
chapter
six,
which
is
the
environmental
resources
and
sustainability
chapter,
and
in
addition
to
that,
there
are
certain
amendments
to
the
cmc
that
are
being
proposed
to
add
a
new
chapter
called
standard
environmental
protection
requirements
which
would
adopt
standard
environmental
protection
requirements
for
construction
and
other
projects.
H
Just
as
background
there
are.
There
have
been
changes
in
state
law
which
require
that
certain
housing
developments
are
only
required
to
comply
with
objective
standards
and
general
climate
zoning
and,
as
a
result,
the
council
directed
staff
to
work
on
updating
its
general
plan
and
zoning
to
include
objective
standards
where
it
would
be
appropriate
to
do
so.
H
In
the
fiscal
year
1920
work
program
and
as
a
result
of
that,
the
city
attorney's
office
identified
some
items
that
needed
par
priority
amendments,
and
so
we
made
amendments
to
the
parkland
dedication
chapter
of
the
new
code
and
the
planned
development
zoning
district
chapters,
also
in
the
municipal
code.
In
addition
to
that,
the
planning
commission
and
the
city
council
invited
the
public
to
suggest
areas
where
you
know.
Amendments
could
be
made
to
add
objective
standards
and,
as
you
can
imagine,
there
were
a
large
number
of
items
that
were
collected.
H
It
was
pre-presented
to
the
council
in
october
of
2019
again
and
at
that
meeting
the
council
basically
delegated
the
task
of
prioritizing
the
items
that
were
collected
over
a
series
of
meetings
from
I
want
to
say
june
2019
through
october
2019
to
the
city
manager
and
the
city
attorney's
office
with
input
from
staff.
H
So
the
items
that
were
proposed
were
prioritized
with
this
background
in
mind
and
with
spp30
in
mind,
and
they
were
put
into
one
of
six
buckets.
They
were
the
ones
that
we
would
work
on
immediately,
which
was
the
items
marked
as
immediate
completion
which
are
being
presented
tonight.
There
were
certain
items
that,
were
you
know,
put
into
the
bucket
of
you
know
current
work
program
items
that
are
already
underway.
H
There
were
some
that
were
already
completed.
There
were
possible
housing
element,
update
items
that
it's
potentially
ones
that
could
be
addressed
with
the
housing
element.
If
there
was
up
zoning
in
some
areas-
and
you
know,
reduction
in
intensity
of
housing
development
in
other
areas
than
it
could
be
possible
to
do
with
the
housing
element.
Potentially,
there
were
possible
future
work
program
items
and
there
were
some
that
were
not
recommended
by
the
planning,
commission
or
ones
that
were
large
enough,
where
it
would
be.
H
There
are
certain
language
changes
proposed
in
the
footnotes
in
figure
le
2.
That
was
essentially
to
remove
some
subjective
language
about
you
know
between
the
primary
building
bulk
below
the
one-to-one
ratio.
That
is
bookline,
that
is
to
be
maintained
and,
as
a
result,
the
staff
is
recommending
that
the
words
primary
involve
be
removed
from
that
language
and
essentially
identify
that
architectural
features
that
do
not
include
usable
area
could
potentially
encroach
into
that
slope
line.
H
And
those
generally
are
things
like
chimneys
or
maybe
a
small
window
pop
out
that
doesn't
include
any
usable
area
in
it
to
provide
some
architectural
relief
to
the
building
for
other
language.
There
was
language
in
there
about
heights
and
setbacks
adjacent
to
residential
areas
to
be
determined
during
project
review.
However,
we
found
that
there
were,
you
know,
conceptual
plans
and
specific
plans
that
did
have
certain
height
and
setback
limitations.
H
Already
you
know
adopted,
and
so
we
referenced
those
in
the
general
plan-
and
you
know
also
left
some
wiggle
room
in
here
for
the
city
to
for
discretionary
projects
to
be
established
during
project
review.
H
H
In
the
same
figure
lu2,
there
were
certain
language
changes
proposed
to
just
make
the
language
a
little
more
clear
about
what
the
maximum
density
is
and
to
clearly
identify
that
the
maximum
density
is,
as
indicated
on
the
general
plan,
a
general
plan
landing
snap
or
it
is
35
units
per
acre
when
there
is
none
indicated
on
the
general
family
youth
map,
which
was
already
the
intent
of
what
the
language
originally
said.
So
we're
just
clarifying
that
language.
H
H
There
are
some
nested
goals
and
it
was
always
intended
to
be
nested
goals.
But
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
that
was
clear,
that
ghouls
lu14
through
18
are
referenced
in
lu13
and
that
lu13
doesn't
stand
by
itself
for
the
heart
of
the
city
special
area,
because
there
are
other
things
that
the
city
desires
to
see
in
each
of
the
sub
areas
that
feed
into
the
heart
of
the
city
special
area.
H
And
I
will
stop
at
this
point,
if
it
pleases
the
commission
to
respond
to
any
questions
about
what
I've
covered
so
far.
Or
I
could
continue
chair
one
at
your
pleasure.
B
You
know,
we've
got
a
number
of
questions.
Commissioner,
kapil
had
his
hand
up,
I
don't
know
if
it
was
for
this
or
something
earlier.
So
let's
go
to
him
first
and
then
we're
going
to
commissioner
maripila.
E
Yeah,
actually,
I
have
a
request
because
this
amendment
was
sent
at
like
three
hours
before
the
meeting
I
mean:
what
do
you
expect?
E
The
reading
speed
to
from
the
point
of
receipt
of
this
document
to
this
meeting
is
hardly
two
hours
or
something
so
there's
a
request
that
if
something
is
to
be
discussed
and
which
has
a
significant
of
documentation
behind
it,
it
should
be
sent
in
advance
to
the
meeting
second
thing.
I
just
want
to
suggest
that
when
there
are
too
much
text,
it
might
help
that
if
you
are
talking
about
the
plan
and
in
a
neighborhood
and
something
a
picture,
helps
in
the
presentation.
That's
all
that's.
H
Yes,
so
the
edits
that
were
sent
finished
well,
so
the
entire
packet
was
posted
on
thursday
on
september
23rd
I
wanted
to
say,
and
the
edits
that
were
sent
earlier
today
were
very
specific
and
were
only
to
the
municipal
code
amendments.
It
did
not
address
the
general
phenomenons
that
are
have
been
discussed
so
far.
E
E
Basically,
I
was
trying
to
understand
that
what
is
the
background
behind
these
edits,
which
is
not
very
clear
in
this
document,
and
that
what
exactly
how
exactly
you
changed?
What
is
the
mineral
extraction
facility
you're
talking
about
like
so.
E
E
B
Think
that's
the
next
part
when
we
get
to
the
mca,
so
I
think
that's
what
you're
referring
to.
So
I
think
those
are
points
well
taken
as
we
get
to
the
next
section
since
we've
cut
this
in
half,
let's
go
to
commissioner
maripatla
and
then
see.
If
there's
any
other
questions,
I
do
have
a
question,
so
I
want
to
go
back
a
couple
slides
back
to
the
neighborhood
piece
when
we
get
there
so
so
go
ahead.
All
yours
money.
F
Yeah
yeah,
so
I
I
do
have
a
question
in
one
of
the
slides.
You
know
if
you
can
go
back
to
one
or
two
slides
where
the
maximum
weights
are
defined,
yeah,
one
more!
That's
where
I'm
at
too
yeah
this
one
yeah.
So
so
a
maximum
height
is
a
number
right.
So
most
of
the
places,
it's
very
clear.
It
says
no
30
feet
30
feet.
Why
does
it
say
you
know
mondavista
village,
special
area
up
to
30
feet
up
to
means.
You
know,
that's
not
an
absolute
number
right.
It's
any
anything
in
the
range.
H
Yes,
so
the
up
to
30
feet
is
only
because
there
are
some
areas
that
are
limited
to
20.
Actually,
it
is
30
feet,
however,
within
the
zoning
documents,
where
you
have
r1
zoning
standards,
those
are
limited
to
28.
H
F
F
H
And
then
there
are
other
parts,
for
example
along
almaden
or
along
san
fernando,
which
are
the
single
family
homes.
Those
are
limited
to
20.
H
F
Then
does
it
make
sense,
you
know
to
call
it.
You
know
maximum
height,
either
28
or
30
feet
like
you
know
how
you
see
on
the
homestead
special
area,
there's
no
maximum
height,
30
feet
or
45
feet
right
so
like
there
are
two
distinct
numbers.
So
should
you
do
the
same
for
moto,
vista
village,
special
area
to
say
no,
it's
28
or
30
depending
on
you
know
the
parcel.
H
We
could
certainly
maybe
with
when
the
commission
discusses
it
further
in
their
discussion.
We
can
talk
about
what
we
could
potentially
clarify
it
as
okay,
thanks.
B
Okay,
I
think
commissioner
maripotle
addressed
the
question
I
had.
Let's
move
on
to
the
mca.
H
Right
so,
with
regard
to
standard
environmental
protection
requirements,
as
I
laid
out
in
the
background
portion
of
the
presentation,
projects
are
required
to
only
comply
with
objective
standards
and,
as
a
result
of
you
know,
concern
from
the
community
about
certain
projects.
H
There
was
certainly
a
desire
to
adopt
a
standard
environmental
protection
requirements
for
all
projects,
whether
they're
discretionary
or
ministerial,
and
this
is
what
was
proposed.
What
is
being
proposed
tonight
is
what
we
came
up
with
in
consultation
with
the
city's
environmental
consultant
and
with
input
from
the
city
attorney's
office,
so
we're
proposing
that
a
new
chapter
be
adopted
in
the
entitled
17
to
address
standard
environmental
protection
requirements
and
in
there
there
are
certain
definitions
of
how
certain
terms
are
used
in
order.
H
When
reading
through
the
chapter
in
general,
all
projects
that
involve
subdivision
construction,
ground,
disturbing
activity
or
pre-removal
would
have
to
adhere
with
the
with
the
requirements
in
that
particular
chapter.
How
people
would
indicate
that
they
comply
with
the
requirements
is
essentially
if
you're,
a
non-residential
or
residential
with
four
plus
units
or
a
mixed
use
development.
H
You
would
prepare
what
would
be
a
construction
management
plan
and
or
indicate
on
permit
plans,
as
applicable,
depending
on
what
exactly
you're,
trying
to
indicate
compliance
with
for
residential
developments
that
are
less
than
four
units
which
are
additions,
remodels
tenant
improvements,
you
would
indicate
the
your
compliance
with
the
requirements
in
your
current
plans.
If
there
is
no
building
or
ground
disturbing
permit
required,
which
is
you
don't
need
a
building
permit
or
a
grading
permit
or
an
excavation
permit,
then
you
would
implement.
H
The
the
requirements
are
kind
of
split
into
two
buckets.
You
have
things
that
you're
required
to
do
before
you
get
project
approval.
That
is
when
you
submit
for
a
project.
Here
are
certain
things
that
you
have
to
do,
and
there
are
certain
requirements
that
you
have
to
adhere
to
before
you
get
a
permit,
which
is
an
actual
building
permit
to
actually
turn
dirt
or
to
actually
erect
a
building.
H
With
regard
to
what
you
have
to
do
before
you
get
project
approval
on
the
air
quality
front,
you
have
to
prepare
an
operational
health
risk
assessment
if
the
project
exceeds
certain
thresholds
and
those
are
certain
you
know
number
of
trips,
whether
those
are
you
know,
transportation,
refrigeration,
units
in
a
project
or
whether
they're
diesel-powered
trucks
that
are
expected
to
come
in
or
you
know,
if
you
meet
certain
thresholds.
H
You're
supposed
to
you
have
to
provide
an
operational
health
risk,
assess
human
health
risk
assessment,
which
would
be
prepared
in
accordance
with
the
office
of
environmental
health,
and
I
can't
quite
remember
off
the
top
of
my
head,
and
we
do
have
terry
here
who
knows
this
backwards
and
forwards
and
our
back
med
standards.
H
You
know
to
make
sure
that
there
are
certain
standards
identified
that
you
have
to
need,
for
this
particular
help
risk
assessment,
and
in
addition
to
that,
depending
on
what
the
outcomes
are
from
that
health
risk
assessment,
you
would
have
to
identify
and
implement
what
are
called
feedbacks,
which
are
best
practices
or
measures
capable
of
reducing
those
risks
that
have
been
identified
in
your
hra
to
make
sure
that
they
reduce
those
risks
to
an
acceptable
level
in
the
project,
and
they
there
are
risks.
H
If
your
project
is
generating
this
air
quality
problem
or
if
you
as
a
project,
have
to
manage
indoor
air
pollution.
So
it
depends
on
where
you
are
so
it
addresses
both
project
emissions
and
if
the
project
itself
is
impacted
by
pollutions.
H
One
of
the
other
things
that
a
project
would
have
to
do
is
indicate
which
area
the
site
that
you're
developing
is
on
bachmann's
planning
healthy
places
map.
They
have
a
map
that
identifies
different
areas
and
if
you're,
in
an
area
that
says
you
have
to
implement
best
practices,
then
you
basically
have
to
implement
those
best
practices
which
include
installing
higher
efficiency
filters.
H
With
regard
to
hazardous
materials,
applicants
must
complete
and
submit
a
phase
one
environmental
site
assessment
report.
If
the
project
involved
the
change
in
land
use,
which
means,
if
you're
going
from
commercial
uses
to
residential
uses
or
if
you're,
developing
you're
developing
uses,
which
are
going
to
be
occupied
by
sensitive
receptors.
H
For
example,
you
had
a
dry
cleaning
facility
and
now
you're
going
to
put
the
child
care
facility
there
or,
if
you're,
going
to
develop
any
new
residential
units
which
does
not
include
a
jd
or
eu
or
if
you
are
developing
a
brand
new,
a
non-residential
building
or
an
office
building,
for
example,
or
a
mixed
use,
residential
development
or,
if
you're,
going
to
be
subdividing
properly
for
sale
and
ultimately,
development
of
netbean
residential
units.
So
you
must
provide
a
phase
1
esa
report.
If
any
of
these
things
occur.
H
If
that
phase
1
report
indicates
that
there
is
a
potential
for
contaminants,
then
the
applicant
must
prepare
a
phase,
two
esa
report
and
all
of
these
reports
again,
you
know,
have
to
be
prepared
in
accordance
with
commonly
accepted
standards.
There
are
definitely
there
are
some
standards
that
are
uniformly.
You
know
applicable
and
people
that
prepare
these
reports
know
exactly
how
they
must
be
prepared,
and
so
that's
spelled
out
in
the
means
of
the
code
requirements
with
regard
to
traffic.
H
H
With
regard
to
vibration,
you,
if
you
anticipate
that
you're
going
to
be
using
vibration
causing
equipment,
then
you
need
to
submit
a
vibration
study
and
there
are
some
alternate
standards
that
are
identified
if
the.
If
vibration
inducing
equipment
has
to
be
used
for
the
type
of
construction
that
you
are
proposing.
H
With
regard
to
air
quality,
on
the
permit
side
of
things,
so
now
you
have
your
project
approval,
you
know
what
happens
once
you
get
your
project
approved.
So
on
the
air
quality
front,
you
basically
have
to
control
dust
during
construction
and
to
do
that.
Vac
med
has
requirements
and
those
requirements
must
be
adhered
to.
If
there's
going
to
be
construction
exhaust
and
particularly
if
you
have
a
larger
site
or
if
there's
going
to
be
more
than
two
months
of
construction,
then
the
requirements
additionally
require
the
use
of
higher
emissions
standard
equipment.
H
So
I
believe,
there's
a
type
four
equipment
which
terry
can
go
into
a
little
bit
more
than
I
can
there's
also
the
requirement
to
require
low
voc
paint
in
interior
nor
architectural
coatings
in
order
to
ensure
that
there
is
no,
you
know,
look
there's
basically,
no
emissions
from
the
the
paint
and
the
the
material
is
used
with
regard
to
hazardous
material.
H
If
that
phase,
two
esa,
that
was
required
prior
to
project
approval,
indicates
that
there
are
contaminants
that
require
cleanup,
then
there
is
a
requirement
to
ensure
that
the
applicant
has
to
go
for
an
appropriate
agency
in
order
to
ensure
that
the
site
is
cleaned
up
prior
to
any
permits
being
issued
with
regard
to
greenhouse
gas
emissions
and
energy,
there's,
basically
a
requirement
that
the
city's
existing
a
development
project,
consistent
checklist,
which
was
adopted
with
the
climate
action
plan,
be
completed,
and
the
applicant
indicate
how
they're
going
to
meet
that
those
requirements.
H
The
biological
resources
requirement
is
not
a
new
one.
We've
had
this
for
a
while,
basically
to
avoid
nesting
birds
during
construction.
There
are
requirements
under
federal
and
state
law
that
disallow
the
taking
of
nesting,
birds
or
eggs
from
bible.
You
know
eggs
from
a
nest,
and
so
basically
it
is
either
avoid
nesting
season
or
if
you
can't
avoid
it,
then
you'll
have
to
conduct
initial
pre-construction
servings.
H
H
There's
also
certain
requirements
for
special
status,
using
that,
if
a
building
a
vacant
building
that
is
going
to
be
re-tenanted
or
demolished,
or
you
know
it's
going
to
be
revamped
in
any
way,
and
it's
not
secure
and
there's
a
chance
that
a
roosting
bat
has
nested
in
there.
It
is
required
that
initial
pre-construction
surveys
be
done
by
a
biologist
to
make
sure
that
there
aren't
any
and
then,
if
there,
if
there
is
then
follow-up
service
is
required.
H
H
They're
kind
of
thrown
into
two
buckets
where
you
know
areas
that
have
no
known
cultural
resources
or
areas
where
there
are
known
cultural
resources,
and
I
believe
in
our
city,
there
might
be
one
or
two
areas
where
there
are
known
cultural
resources,
but
in
general,
if
there
are
no
known
cultural
resources,
then
essentially
the
project
applicant
must
provide
materials
to
the
construction,
crew
and
contractors
telling
them
what
to
look
for
when
they
are
digging
to
make
sure
that
there
are
no
disturbances
to
cultural
resources.
H
H
In
areas
where
there
are
known
cultural
resources,
the
applicant
would
be
required
to
retain
a
qualified
archaeologist
to
provide
a
report
on
the
extent
of
the
resource.
They're
also
required
to
consult
with
the
tribal
representatives
and
file
a
report
with
the
california
historical
resource
information
system
and
with
the
city.
H
If
it
is
eligible,
then
the
archaeologist
must
identify
ways
to
minimize
the
effect
on
the
resource,
and
with
that
you
know,
basically
those
they
will
basically
have
to
mitigate
those
or
or
minimize
those
impacts.
There's
also
requirements
to
protect
human
remains
and
native
american
burials.
These
are
to
comply
with
existing
state
requirements
related
to
these
things
with
regard
to
hydrology
and
water
quality,
we're
basically
requiring
everybody
to
comply
with
the
city's
existing
requirements
related
to
stormwater
pollution
prevention
and
watershed
protection,
and
for
vibration
and
noise.
H
We
are
requiring,
noticing
and
site
signage
prior
to
the
start
of
any
construction
activity
or
related
to
that,
and
the
applicant
must
also
prepare
and
submit
a
construction
noise
plan
which
will
indicate
how
they
meet
our
existing
ones
thresholds
with
regard
to
managing
vibrations
during
construction,
they're
required
to
provide
notice
within
300
feet
of
the
project
side
and
prepare
and
implement
a
vibration
monitoring
plan.
H
There's
also
paleontological
resources.
The
requirements
for
what
to
do
with
climatological
resources
are
found
on
a
site
and
they're
pretty
similar
to
what
to
do
if
you
find
a
cultural
resource
on
the
site
and,
lastly,
for
utilities
and
service
systems.
You
know
we
identified
in
the
city's
general
plan
in
2014
that
there
might
be
an
issue
with
the
wet
weather
flow
capacity,
and
so
these
are.
H
Overall,
within
a
project,
they
must
also
obtain
a
letter
of
clearance
from
kupatina
sanitary
district
and,
above
all,
they
also
have
to
provide
letters
from
appropriate
water
service
providers
to
ensure
that
there
is
an
adequate
water
supply
and
so
and
also
provide
letters
to
make
sure
that
the
location
of
their
backfill,
preventers
or
of
their
utility
connections
are,
you
know,
approved
by
the
water
service
provider.
H
Violations
of
this
miracle
of
these
of
these
requirements
would
be
violations
of
the
military
and
there
are
certain
ways
of
making
sure
that
people
comply
with
the
city's
requirements.
Moving
on
to
sequa,
there
is
a
fifth
addendum
that
was
prepared.
H
It
indicated
that
there
were
no
subsequent
environment
that
no
subsequent
environmental
reviews
required,
because
there
were
real
substantial
changes
in
the
project,
which
was
analyzed
with
the
2015
general
planning
ir,
and
it
also
concluded
that
the
significant
and
unavoidable
impacts
which
the
proposed
project
would
contribute
to
were
previously
disclosed
and
analyzed
in
the
final
eir
from
2014.
H
So
there
is
no
need
to
provide
to
prepare
any
supplemental
or
subsequent
eir,
and
the
preparation
of
an
addendum
is
adequate
for
the
changes
that
have
been
proposed
to
the
general
plan
and,
additionally,
the
requirements
for
the
unicode
from
a
sql
perspective
are
that
they
basically
do
not
result
in
any
direct
or
foreseeable
impacts
to
the
physical
changes
to
the
environment
and
therefore
are
exempt
from
sql.
H
And
with
that
I
conclude
my
presentation.
I
know
that
was
a
lot
and
so
basically
we're
recommending
that
the
commission
adopt
the
draft
resolutions
to
recommend
that
the
city
council
adopt
both
the
addendum
and
the
general
plan.
Amendment
changes
and
also
the
proposed
amendment
to
this
to
the
municipal
code
by
adding
including
the
red
lines
which
were
provided
to
you
as
a
desk
item.
H
We
do
not
make
any
substantial
changes
to
what
was
posted
with
the
agenda
on
thursday
september
23rd,
and
there
were
just
some
language
edits
to
refine
the
existing
language
that
was
previously
proposed
and
I'm
happy
to
answer
any
questions,
and
we
also
have
terry
mccracken
here
from
works.
Who
knows
more
about
environmental
requirements
than
I
do
so?
I
will
defer
to
her
on
difficult
ones.
B
Yeah,
so
any
questions
from
the
commission.
If
not,
I
do
have
a
first
question:
let's
see
if
anybody
has
any.
This
is
a
question
more
towards
seth
and
to
the
our
legal
team.
From
my
understanding,
we
can
make
these
things
retroactive,
if
needed,
be
just
to
cover
our
bases
on
objective
standards.
How
far
back
can
I
make
a
retroactor
to
like
january
2016
or
january
2017.?
I
With
regard
to
already
approved
projects
in
most
instances,
this
would
not
take
effect
again
as
to
those
projects,
those
if
we're
talking
about
ministerial
streamline
projects.
Those
standards
are
locked
in
at
the
time
of
approval,
if
you're
talking
about
well.
That
really
is
the
only
instance
in
which
you
would
want
to
apply
retroactively
right
to
projects
that
had
already
come
through
the
application
process.
B
Yeah
is
there
anything
that
keeps
us
from
applying
it
to
something
that
was
approved,
ministerially.
I
I
B
Okay,
but
they
keep
changing
the
laws
as
they
go
along
as
well.
Right,
like
these
things,
keep
getting
added
to
the
law
that
they
passed,
that
they
forgot
to
add
that
continued
to
be
added.
Is
that
correct.
I
Laws
do
change
yeah
going
forward.
We
may
see
new
laws
come
down.
We
could
see
changes
to
retroactivity
provisions
in
future
versions
of
these
ministerial
streamlining
state
laws,
but,
right
now
our
understanding
is
these
standards
would
take
effect
going
forward.
I
F
F
I
There
may
be,
you
know,
common
law
and
due
process
principles
regarding
retroactivity
and
fair
notice
that
apply
and
prohibit
yeah,
and
you
know
that
would
be
set
forth
in
case
law
yeah.
So.
F
So
that
you
know
I
understand
right,
so
I
think
you
know
that's
a
reasonable
argument
that
no
any
common
sense
person
would
make
like
you
know
you
can't
attractively,
go
and
apply
to
something
but
looks
like
you
know.
State
laws
don't
seem
to
consider
that
right,
so
they
they
just
apply
stuff.
You
know
retroactively,
they
can
do
it.
You
know
why
can't
we
do
it?
That's
that's
a
point
that
I
was
trying
to
make.
F
Implicated,
yeah
yeah,
I'm
not
suggesting
you
know
we
go
do
that
because
that's
what
it
would
be
unfair
right.
So
we
want
to
treat
you
know
our
constituents.
You
know
people
that
go
through.
You
know
the
due
process
in
cooked.
You
know
fairly,
so
I'm
not
suggesting
we
do
anything
of
that.
Just
making
an
argument
that
you
know
a
point
that
you
know
if
state
laws
could
do
retroactively.
B
You,
commissioner,
maripotle
I'm
actually
suggesting
we
do
do
that.
Actually,
and
part
of
the
reason
is:
if
there's
no
other
conflicting
law,
then
this
would
carry
and
apply
right,
and
this
would
supersede
if
someone
else
actually
put
something
in
play.
B
That's
actually
why
I'm
asking
this
question,
because
I'm
thinking
that
retroactivity
to
well
january
2017
might
be
interesting
right
and
then,
when
push
comes
to
shove,
let's
go
see
what
happens
right,
because
you
know
these
objective
standards
are
so
important.
The
reason
we
have
this
17.04
is
because
of
some
severe
issues
we
have
with
a
toxic
site.
That's
going
on
that's
been
listed.
That
was
not
discovered
that
did
not
go
through
this
process,
which
is
why
I
am
so
excited
about
this
right.
That's
the
reason
this
is
here.
B
B
We
can
protect
ourselves
right
because
we
have
a
situation.
We
have
a
situation
that
was
not
caught.
We
had
a
situation
that
was
the
result
of
a
bad
implication
of
ministerial
review.
We
have
a
situation
where
I
will
go
to
the
very
edge
and
say
someone
should
have
been
paying
attention
and
did
not,
and
that's
why
I
really
will
think
more
enough.
This
is
rep.
We
can
pass
this
retroactively.
B
B
G
Okay
thanks,
I
I
was
had
to
leave
for
a
work
call
for
part
of
this,
but
what
my
notes
say
to
myself
architectural
features:
they're
not
supposed
to
be
occupied
spaces.
We
have
an
issue
at
main
street
once
again
main
street
and
there's
maybe
others,
but
this
isn't
one
I
know
of
where
architectural
features
were
allowed
and
it
was
promised
to
residents
that
oh,
those
are
just
to
make
the
building
more
interesting.
It's
not
to
be
occupied,
please
they're
occupied.
G
Obviously,
so
I
the
language
that
was
there.
Fortunately,
this
presentation,
the
slides
weren't
available
for
me
to
pull
up
like
they
often
are
for
city
council
meetings.
I
don't
know
if
that's
just
a
difference
between
planning
commission,
but
I
couldn't
go
back
and
read
that
slide
to
see
what
I
wanted
to
comment
on
was
appropriate,
but
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
that.
I
also
you
know
pure
says
at
the
end
that
this
is
a
lot
of
information.
Hell
yeah,
it's
a
lot
of
information.
G
I
I
mean:
where
did
all
of
this
come
from,
and
does
it
go
far
enough?
It
was
a
question
I
have
because
who
really
had
input
enough
input
and
I
guess
tonight's
your
opportunity,
if
you
don't
think
it
went
far
enough,
but
there's
so
much
going
on
and
I
didn't
see
any
red
lines
except
for
a
few
slides.
G
G
But
I
just
don't
want
this
to
be
something
that
looks
and
sounds
really
good.
But
it's
really
not
enough,
and
I
know
you
have
to
start
somewhere,
but
if
the
input's
not
coming
from
multiple
sources
on
how
to
change
these
things,
I
don't
know,
and
I'm
don't
get
me
wrong.
I
totally
appreciate
that
this
is
being
done.
I
just
feel,
like
I
missed
a
few
months
of
something
going
on
and
anyway
and
I'm
babbling
now,
and
you
know
honestly
the
whole
secret
thing
and
the
whole
state
thing
it.
G
It's
actually
ludicrous
what
the
state
has
done
and
it
it's
beyond
incomprehensible
and
what
they
are
doing
and
honestly
for
anyone.
That's
listening
the
statewide
initiative
by
bill
brand
and
others
is
the
only
way
we're
going
to
make
this
stuff
stiff
retroactive
for
the
state
and
get
our
local
control
back,
because
that
initiative
will
be
retroactive
if
it's
got
enough
signatures
to
get
on
the
ballot,
and
if
it's
voted
for
on
the
ballot,
we
will
have
our
control
back
and
then
these
things
will
matter
way
more
than
they
do.
At
this
juncture,.
B
Thank
you,
lisa
appreciate
it.
Jenny
you're
up.
C
Okay,
great
I've
mastered
this
tablet.
You
know,
I'm
our
poor
staff,
I
mean,
I,
you
know
honestly.
What
is
going
on
in
sacramento
with
these
housing
still
is
like
toddler
time.
I.
I
cannot
believe
that
the
governor
with
his
intelligence
and
the
things
he's
been
through
protecting
us
from
covid
that
he
has
fallen
into
the
kool-aid
land
of
these
housing
bills.
I
am
just
constantly
constantly
appalled
at
what
is
going
on
this.
C
The
reason
why
we're
having
to
put
in
I
think
it's
17-
oh
I'm,
sorry
apologize
it
17.04
is
because
of
the
I'm
gonna
say
very
stupid
housing
bills
that
have
been
coming
out.
We
have
a
hostile
sacramento,
it's
kind
of
like
you
had
toddlers
in
charge
up
there
that
were
coming
out
with
these
bills.
C
I
was
reading
the
one
that
the
governor
did
this
afternoon
and
it's
like
more
and
more
toddler
time
I
but
then
again
we're
being
forced
as
the
city
to
protect
the
municipality
where
we
are
coming
into
areas
where
we
have
potentially
toxic
fights
in
the
city
and
and
and
what
you're
going
to
hear
from
sacramento
is
oh,
it's
sp
35
and
we're
just
going
to
build
on
top
of
it,
even
if
it
has
a
nuclear
power
plant
under
it.
It's
toddler
time
in
sacramento.
C
So,
yes,
I
think
the
city
and
the
staff.
You
know
it's
a
lot
of
work,
it's
a
pain,
but
you
know
I've
never
seen
anything
like
this.
In
the
21
years
that
we've
been
in
the
city-
and
I
I
am,
I
shake
to
think
what
they're
going
to
do
to
us
next
year.
We
won't
be
allowed
to
have
houses,
we're
going
to
have
to
live
in
tents
so
or
or
the
whole
entire
state
is
going
to
buy
every
house
in
the
state.
C
So
I
echo
what
lisa's
saying
I
think
the
governor
has
taken
leave
of
his
senses
and
gone
back
to
toddler
time,
but
I
and
I,
as
a
poor
staff-
I
mean
you
guys
didn't
sign
on
for
this,
but
you
know
by
the
time
we've
trudged
through
this,
the
city
is
gonna.
We
have
to
do
this
because
sacramento
is
not
looking
out
for
us.
Thank
you.
So
much.
B
Hey,
thank
you,
jenny.
We
don't
see
any
other
public
comment,
we're
going
to
move
back
to
a
discussion
with
the
account
with
the
planning
commission.
So
go
ahead.
Commissioners,
commissioner
kapil,
please
go
ahead.
E
Maybe
somebody
can
explain
me
the
what's.
The
reason
of
the
slope
line
ratio
on
the
walco
shopping
center
neighborhood
towards
the
portal
neighborhood
to
be
two
is
to
one,
whereas
on
the
other
side
on
the
south
of
balco,
it
is
1.5.
E
What
is
the
rationale
for
that?
I
mean
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
in
this
encrypted
presentation
which
doesn't
explain
anything.
But
but
this
point
is
mentioned
out
there-
that
that
maintain
a
building
below
two
is
to
one
stop
line
for
the
volco
shopping
center
that
are
adjacent
to
north
bellini
neighborhood,
whereas
maintain
1.5
is
to
one
for
north
and
south
walco
park
areas.
B
Commission
copy,
I
believe,
that's
for
transitions,
but
I'll
I'll
have
to
pew.
Please
go
ahead.
I
think
you'll
explain
the
reason
for
the
different
setbacks.
H
I
can
the
original
language
for
falco.
There
was
no
slow
blind
product
when
we
back
in
well,
2005
or
earlier
it
before
2014.
Also,
there
was
no
slope
line
for
the
portal
neighborhood
at
falco,
and
so
when
the
there
were
amendments
that
were
adopted
in
2019
related
to
falco
and
the
council.
At
that
time,
I
think
staff
had
recommended
a
one
and
a
half
to
one
slope
line
to
match
the
others.
E
My
question
was
primarily
that
the
one
side
of
the
neighborhood
you
are
is
two
is
to
one
other
side
is
1.5.
So
what's
the
rationale
for
that.
E
B
I
think,
commissioner
kapil,
the
reason
is,
is
where
you
go
from
a
commercial
area
or
resident
to
a
residential
area.
You
want
to
make
sure
that
you
kind
of
match
the
heights
and
the
bulk
so
that
it
doesn't
look
likes.
You
know,
like
you
suddenly
boom.
Oh,
wait,
hey
we're
not
in
a
commercial
area,
it's
to
actually
smooth
out
those
transitions
and
to
have
the
setbacks
there,
and
I
think
that
at
that
time
that's
what
the
council
finally
approved.
They
thought
that
was
going
to
be
a
better
smoother
kind
of
transition.
E
Basically,
you
discuss
biological
and
other
other
things,
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
out
that
that
for
the
hydrology
and
water
quality,
how
how
this
is
supposed
to
be
enforced
like
if
there
is
any
contamination.
E
Can
understand
the
question
go
to
go
to
17.04,
f,
okay,
it
says
control,
strong
water,
runoff
contamination
project
applicant
shall
demonstrate
compliance
with
chapter
9.18,
storm
water
pollution
prevention
and
watershed
production
of
the
cupertino
municipal
code.
This
is
before
the
project
starts
or
during
the
during
the
project
execution.
H
Yeah,
I
can
address
that,
so
there
are
requirements
in
the
storm
water
prevention
pollution
chapter
with
regard
to
what
you
do
during
construction.
How
do
you
make
sure
that
construction
waste
doesn't
flow
into
the
storm
drains
or
out
into
the
streets?
So
there
are
certain
requirements
already
built
in
to
the
city's
requirements
and
in
addition
to
that,
there
are
additional
requirements
that
applicants
must
adhere
to
once
the
project
is
operational,
so
that
to
make
sure
that
there
isn't
you
know,
mud
or
dirt
flowing
into
the
storm
drain
system.
E
Okay,
so
basically
the
there
is
a
mechanism
available
where
the
during
the
construction,
although
the
permit
has
been
obtained
and
the
project
owner,
has
certified
that
it
will
comply
to
all
those.
There
is
a
way
to
during
the
execution
if
they,
if
there
is
a
in
the
neighborhood,
there
is
a
contamination
of
the
water
because
of
the
project
execution,
to
detect
that,
as
well
as
to
enforce
the
prevention
of
that.
H
B
No,
it's
a
great
question,
commissioner.
Kapil
I
mean
hypothetically,
you
know
these
leakages
can
get
into
your
water
supply
and
when
they
do
testing,
they
never
go
deep
enough
right.
So
you
don't
know
if
there's
leaching
into
the
ground
water
supply
because
they
never
go
deeper
than
80
feet
right
and
the
ground
water
supply
is
much
lower
than
that,
but
the
storm
water
piece
only
addresses
one
part
of
it.
B
I
would
you
know,
I
don't
think
I
think
it's
probably
beyond
the
state
capability
to
go
and
enforce
something
where
you're
actually
leaking
in
the
ground.
Water.
Potentially,
if
you've
got
potentially,
you
know
two
dry
cleaners
on
a
side,
maybe
some
auto
shops
in
the
way
along
the
way
you
see
that
leakage
or
potentially
a
chip
manufacturing
plant.
That's
there.
You
could
see
that
happen
so,
but.
B
I
do
have
a
question
and
it's
related
to
the
public
comment
and
that's
to
staff.
How
do
we
enforce
these
things?
Were
you
know
an
architectural
feature
that
was
kind
of
cool
kind
of
needs
right
suddenly
becomes
a
space.
What
that
was
not
supposed
to
be
space
used?
Do
we
enforce
that
and
is
code
enforcement
selectively
enforcing
things,
or
are
we
applying
these
rules
uniformly.
H
So
we
do
respond
to
code
enforcement
complaints.
So
if
you
find
anything,
please
feel
free
to
contact
code
enforcement
at
florida,
cupertino.org.
B
Okay,
so
I'll
encourage
the
member
of
the
public
to
file
that,
and
I
want
to
see
how
quickly
that
gets
resolved.
I'm
very
curious
because
if
that's
been
a
known
issue
for
this
long
and
we
have
not
been
enforcing
it,
I'm
very
curious
and
we
should
probably
let
council
know
so.
I
think
that's
useful.
H
H
City
does
not
have
the
staffing
capability
to
go
out
and
actually
actively,
and
it
is
not
to
look
for
code
issues.
There
is
also
not
the
city's.
It
has
not
been
the
council's
desire
for
a
city
staff
to
go
out
and
actually
look
for
code
enforcement
issues
with
no
and
so
as
a
result.
That
is
the
city's
culture
of
responding
to
code
enforcement,
complaints.
B
All
right
any
other
discussion
here,
any
other.
Anyone
want
to
make
any
proposed
amendments.
Any
kind
of
comments
to
this.
H
E
I'm
just
asking
that
these
amendments
have
been
made
and
there
is
an
implicit
assumption
there.
There
is
an
informant
enforcement
mechanism
exists
behind
them
by
the
city
or
by
by
some
other
party.
Now,
where
is
that
documented.
H
It
is
the
violation
section
of
the
chapter
which
I
touched
upon
is
that
if
you
do
violate
any
portion
of
this
particular
chapter,
it
is
considered
a
violation
of
the
municipal
code,
and
basically
that
means
that
the
city
has
the
ability
to
enforce
its
municipal
code
through
certain
regulations
that
are
requirements
that
are
already
in
place
in
chapter.
I
think
it's
1.08,
1.09
and
1.12
of
the
municipal
code.
E
H
Correct
because
it
is
detailed
in
the
other
parts
of
the
municipal
code,
so
it
does
not
need
to
be
repeated
here.
Essentially
there
are,
the
city
has
the
option
to
you
know
if
there
is
a
criminal
issue,
you
know
there's.
There
are
many
ways
that
the
city
can
go
about
it.
It
can
issue
administrative
citations,
it
can
take
somebody
to
civil
court.
It
can,
you
know,
do
revoke
a
permit.
A
B
B
B
Thanks
to
the
staff
for
putting
that
together,
I
appreciate
that
I
think,
there's
a
lot
in
it
and
we'll
see
what
council
does
with
it.
Let's
go
to
old
business
new
business.
Anything
we
need
to
add
on
the
staff
side.
F
Yeah,
so
I'd
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
thank
the
staff
you
know
for
doing
the
work
right.
I
wish
you
know
we
had
this
objective
guidelines
not
a
long
time
ago,
but
it's
better
late
than
never.
So.
Thank
you.
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Any
reports
from
the
commission.
B
Sir
I'll
say
that
I've
been
attending
the
california
association
of
cali
of
local
electeds
and
been
attending
those
meetings
as
we're
looking
at
legislative
changes,
trying
to
understand,
what's
going
on
with
different
laws
and
trying
to
understand
what's
happening
to
homes,
homeownership
residence
and
affordability,
so
I've
been
attending
those
meetings
as
well.
B
I
do
want
to
point
out
on
our
agenda.
We
lost
the
item
if
we
can
put
it
back
on
on
new
agenda
items
to
discuss
or
to
consider.
I
think
we
used
to
have
that
somewhere
unless
I
missed
that,
please
let
me
know
but
yeah.
Let's
definitely
have
that.
So
I'm
going
to
move
on
to
the
section.
Are
there
any
other
agenda
items
that
we'd
like
to
add
so.
B
I
do
have
one
I'm
going
to
continue
to
hammer
on
this
one,
not
because
it's
our
side's
fault
on
our
department,
but
we
need
coordination
on
the
5g
issue,
especially
in
terms
of
the
aesthetics
we
have
poles
upon
poles.
There
are
light
poles
sitting
next
to
light
poles
within
two
feet,
one
for
a
5g
tower
one's
a
regular
light.
Pole
have
no
idea
why
that's
going
on
this
proliferation
continues,
aesthetically
we're
going
to
have
like
polls
on
top
of
polls
in
all
these
different
places,
and
I'm
hoping
that
we
get
a
status
update
from.
B
I
guess
public
works
and
also
the
coordination
with
us
in
terms
of
getting
an
ordinance
on
this
to
get
the
aesthetics
down
on
these
5g
towers,
to
understand
specifically
when
and
how
many
carriers
can
be
on
these
towers
to
understand
what
zoning
is
applied
to
each
of
these
towers.
This
is
a
simple
exercise.
B
I
know
I'm
oversimplifying
how
simple
it
is,
but
other
cities
have
done
that.
We
have
an
attorney.
That's
done
that
before
and
I
don't
know
who's
dragging,
but
I
am
upset.
Residents
are
upset
and
I
want
to
get
a
status
on
this
at
some
point
on
an
agenda
item.
So
just
something
on
my
list.
So
I
don't
if
anyone
says
anything
else
to
add.
B
B
So
residents
are
up
in
arms
about
this
issue
so
and
it's
we're
not
being
responsive,
and
I
just
yeah
I'm
just
unhappy
with
that.
I
get
a
complaint
about
this
from
a
neighbor
like
literally
four
or
five
times
a
week,
I'm
not
sure
if
anybody
else
is
looking
at
this,
it's
just
something
that
really
just
we
should
be
addressing
so
okay.
Well
with
that,
you
know,
I
guess
we're
done
I'd
like
to
adjourn
this
meeting.
No
one
has
any
objections.