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Coverage of the Joint Planning Commission/Housing Commission meeting of Tuesday, June 28, 2022 (Part 1 of 2)
A
D
E
A
B
G
B
A
Okay,
very
good.
Let's
move
on
next
we'll
approve
the
june
14th
planning
commission
meetings.
So
this
obviously
only
the
planning
commissioners
will
vote
on
this.
So
take
a
minute
if
you
haven't
already
read
the
minutes,
I
looked
at
them
and
I
just
want
to
say
they're
much
improved
over
previous
minutes.
So
I
appreciate
whoever
was
responsible
for
that.
B
E
A
Great
okay:
now
we
are
on
there's
no
postponements.
We
are
on
to
oral
communications.
This
is
where
members
of
the
public
may
speak
on
any
item.
That
is
not
on
the
agenda.
So,
if
it
is
on
the
agenda,
I
will
stop
you,
but
if
it's
not
on
the
agenda,
you're
welcome
to
speak
on
it.
I
am
you'll
have
three
minutes
so
far.
I
see
one
person
with
their
hand
raised
welcome.
I
I
To
my
understanding,
the
coastal
commission
has
jurisdiction
over
anyone
for
one
mile
out
to
the
coastline
up
and
down
the
coast
of
california.
My
mother
has
owned
two
homes
that
were
within
the
aptas
home
is
within
the
one
mile
coastal
commission
area
and
her
other
home
was
that
she
lived
in
for
many
years.
So
I'm
very
familiar
with
this,
but
I
do
not
think
that
hcd
is
going
to
try
to
let
the
coastal
commission
exist
in
its
current
form.
I
They
have
made
innuendoes
that
they
do
not
think
that
the
in
san
diego
there's
a
30
foot
high
limit
at
the
beach
area
that
was
from
a
user-backed
initia.
Sorry,
not
user.
Voter
backed
initiative
from
1972
and
hcd
on
june
20th
said
that
they
were
going
to
allow
a
developer
to
build
a
development
that
is
60
feet
high,
which
is
within
the
30
foot
high
limit
of
san
diego,
which
goes
all
the
way
up
to
la
jolla.
I
I
I
am
very
very
concerned
that
when
we
have
wording
like
that
coming
down
from
a
state
agency
and
that's
what
hcd
is
a
state
state
agency
that
we're
running
a
mini
putin
built
we'll
just
this
is
hcd-
has
no
right
to
supersede
laws
like
that
without
an
explanation,
and
an
explanation
is
not
that
that
the
law
is
null
and
void.
That
is
not
how
you
do
teamwork
laws
in
california.
I
D
Good
evening
planning,
commission,
housing,
commission
and
staff-
I
just
want
to
thank
you.
I
think
it's
very
refreshing
that
the
commissions
are
combined
for
this
event,
and
I
think
I
I
would
like
to
see
more
planning
and
housing
for
housing
issues,
planning
in
parks
and
rec
for
park
issues
planning
is
sustainability,
the
more
eyes
the
better
the
more
ideas,
the
better
we
benefit.
So
thank
you
all
for
attending
and
thank
you
for
this
joint
meeting.
J
J
I
have
yet
to
see
a
real
schedule
since
the
november
10th
copy,
which
was
changed
immensely,
but
it
does
show
on
that
that
the
housing
commission
was
to
have
two
hearings
after
their
initial
study
session,
which
was
in
december
of
last
year.
So
that
hasn't
really
happened
so
I'm
and
they
should
definitely
be
a
part
of
this.
So
I'm
really
super
glad.
This
is
happening
and
it's
a
little
ketchup
plus
it'll
be
good
about
some
more
ideas
may
take
longer
more
words,
but
we
need
that
because
those
were.
A
Hear
him?
Okay,
all
right!
So
since
we
can't,
since
we
can't
hear
her,
I
will
mute
her
and
we
will
move
on
to
the
next
agenda
item,
which
is
the
public
hearing
this
that
says
it's
the
fifth
meeting
on
the
housing
element
update.
I'm
not
sure
that
that
is
correct.
I
think
it's
third,
but
whatever
focusing
on
establishment
of
a
housing
site,
selection,
inventory
and
pre
the
previous
four
meetings,
I
think
it
was
two
meetings
were
solely
with
the
planning
commission.
A
A
L
I
will
be
brief,
since
I
expect
will
be
a
lot
of
comment
tonight.
We
have
a
presentation
from
andy
flower
at
emc
planning
who's
been
at
the
previous
meetings,
david
massington,
with
bls
architecture.
Who's
working
with
emc
is
also
here
tonight.
He
was
at
some
of
the
earlier
planning
commission
meetings.
L
L
I
think
if
there
is
agreement
on
the
sites
that
could
just
be
simply
indicated
by
the
commissioners
and
if
there
are
questions
that
would
result
in
changes
as
staff,
I
would
just
like
to
get
clarity
that
if
a
site
is
coming
off
the
list
or
there's
some
question
about
that,
how
the
majority
feels
about
any
of
those
changes,
so
we're
able
to
accurately
capture
your
comments
and
make
the
recommendation
going
forward
to
city
council
with
that.
If
andy
is
ready,
I'm
going
to
turn
the
presentation
over
to
andy.
A
L
and
the
presentation
tonight
we're
going
to
get
a
little
more
detail
than
that
is
that
within
the
arena
number
it's
also
done
by
income
category,
so
very
low
low,
moderate
and
market
rate
housing
are
in
there.
We're
also
going
to
be
getting
into
what
our
pipeline
projects,
which,
in
the
city
of
cupertino,
is
actually
quite
significant,
but
over
70
percent
of
your
arena
allocation
before
4
588
units
are
pipeline
projects.
L
These
were
not
addressed
in
the
earlier
meetings,
so
we've
tried
to
get
a
level
of
detail
where
you
can
take
a
closer
look
at
all
of
those
things.
It
might
be
easier.
I
think
if
we
get
into
this,
because
I
know
andy's
gonna
have
some
slides,
but
that's
sort
of
the
overview
for
people
that
are
new
to
the
meeting.
If
things
aren't
clear,
feel
free
to
ask
questions
as
we
go.
A
L
That
said,
if
you
have
particular
comments,
if
you
feel
strongly
that
a
site
would
be
better
to
accommodate
low
or
very
low
income
units,
I
think
those
are
perfectly
good
comments
that
we'd
like
to
have
to
get
those
preferences
indicated.
I
think,
as
the
staff
report
addressed
at
the
end,
the
next
step
in
this
is
to
start
looking
at
housing
policies.
H
M
A
C
C
L
What
matters
that
is
correct!
It
is
on
the
balance
and
specifically
on
very
low
income
and
moderate
income,
because
the
city
is
already
through
the
pipeline
projects,
meeting
the
amount
of
low
and
market
rate
housing
so
that
15
to
30
balance,
which
there's
no
number
that's
mandated.
That's
an
hcd
guideline
that
would
be
applied
to
two
of
the
four
income
categories:
very
low
and
moderate.
N
A
N
A
N
L
L
A
Okay,
great
so
andy,
you
can
do
your
presentation
but
stop
before
you
get
to
the
actual
site,
selections
and
then
we'll
have
members
of
the
public
and
the
commissioners
give
comments
and
then
we'll
go
into
the
site
selection,
where
people
can
have
more
comments.
We'll
do
public
comments
for
each
group
that
we
go
through,
so
everyone
will
have
plenty
of
time
to
voice
their
opinions,
so
welcome
andy
flowers.
O
O
O
Of
course,
the
decision
for
that
is
up
to
you
so
background
here
are
the
arena
numbers
as
they
break
out
among
the
different
income
categories.
Very
low
low,
moderate
above
moderate,
most
folks
have
seen
this
already,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
anyone
walking
into
this
process
to
be
engaged
with
it
that
they
have
some
basic
understanding.
O
These
are
projects
that
have
already
been
entitled
and
now
only
need
building
permits
to
move
forward
for
hcd's
calculation.
We'll
also
need
a
letter,
citing
that
these
property
owners
and
representatives
have
an
intention
to
build
within
this
eight
year
cycle.
So
I
want
to
be
clear
that
we
do
not
have
all
of
those
letters
in
hand.
Yet
we
have
initiated
that
process
and
we
hope
that
all
of
these
property
owners
are
happy
to
work
with
us
through
providing
that
information
to
hcd.
O
What
that
leaves
us
with
is
a
balance
of
1025
units
plus
the
buffer,
there's
a
couple
different
ways
that
the
buffer
can
be
calculated
and-
and
we've
made
a
few
of
them
available
on
our
renewed
balancing
act
website,
we'll
get
into
that
in
a
little
bit,
but
I
just
want
to
make
it
very
clear
that
we
are
welcoming
not
only
the
commissioners
here
tonight,
but
the
public
at
large
to
be
as
engaged
as
possible.
This
is
this
is
really
the
crunch
time
for
that
kind
of
involvement.
O
O
But
we
wanted
to
just
begin
with
these
three
different
assumptions,
so
these
are
baked
into
our
balancing
act.
Map
that's
available
on
our
website,
we'll
be
interacting
with
that
map
today,
so
everybody
will
get
a
little
taste
of
of
what
it
is
and
and
how
everybody
can
participate
so
roles.
I
can't
talk
about
roles
without
also
talking
about
the
timeline.
O
O
O
Just
isn't
enough
room
to
include
that
and
of
course
all
commissioners
are
part
of
the
public,
and
this
is
an
open
and
inclusive
and,
I
would
dare
say
radically
visible
process
that
we've
been
transparent
process
that
we've
been
going
through.
We
want
to
include
the
public
with
every
step
of
the
way
and,
together
with
property
owners,
the
concept
is
to
reduce
barriers
to
housing
development,
and
that
would
be
three
through
rezoning
efforts.
Streamlining
efforts.
O
It
gives
us
a
huge
head
start
and-
and
we
also
have
heard
from
planning
commissioners
that
there's
a
desire
for
a
minimal
amount
of
up
zoning
or
rezoning
in
a
way
that
would
increase
density.
So
we
like
to
share
this
slide,
just
to
remind
everybody
that
the
more
sites
there
are,
the
the
the
less
amount
of
potential
rezoning
would
be
necessary
or
a
density
increase,
the
fewer
sites,
the
the
the
upward
pressure
that
puts
on
those
few
sites.
O
Because
you've
already
got
such
a
wonderful
division
of
both
neighborhoods
and
special
areas
within
your
city,
that's
what
we've
used
throughout
our
process
for
looking
at
sites
as
a
scaffolding,
so
to
speak
so
that
when
we
speak
of
projects-
and
we
think
of
where
their
location
is
that
we
can
frame
it
within
those
areas.
So
we
can
see
here
within
all
of
the
neighborhood
areas.
We
have
a
total
of
357
recommended
sites.
O
O
We
all
recommend
that
these
are
sites
to
move
forward
with
tier
two
are
those
sites
from
the
full,
nearly
400
sites
that
we
began
with?
That
meant
that
that
low
threshold
of
is
it
in
the
size
range
that
hcd
has
given
us
guidance
and
that's
between
half
an
acre
and
10
acres.
So
of
those
nearly
400
sites
we've
landed
on,
I
think
it's
about
97
sites,
and
so
tonight
we're
going
to
be
discussing
going
through
the
tier
1
sites
and
you'll
see
within
our
mapping
program
and
within
our
calculations.
O
So
our
excel
sheet
that
was
attached
to
the
agenda
packet
that
we've
zeroed
out
the
tier
2.
you'll,
see
in
our
mapping
program.
We
have
blocked
out
an
ability
to
change
the
numbers
for
the
pipeline
projects,
but
for
the
tier
one
and
tier
two
sites,
there's
still
an
ability
to
add
or
subtract
the
anticipated
or
recommended
number
of
units
at
those
sites.
So
that's
something
anybody
watching
at
home
can
do
for
your
own
personal
housing
plan,
submittal
and
also
commissioners.
Of
course,
we
absolutely
welcome
your
participation
with
these
tools.
O
O
We
want
to
be
clear
and
forthright
about
rezoning
about
how
any
rezoning
necessary
to
make
up
this
difference
between
what
is
now
available
and
what
is
necessary
to
meet
the
arena
that
these
would
need
to
be
by
right,
which
means
that
it
wouldn't
it
would
have
to
not
require
a
conditional
use
permit
in
order
to
enable
housing
to
be
located
there.
It
wouldn't.
It
would
need
to
not
require
a
planned
unit,
development
permit
or
any
other
discretionary
action.
That
would
constitute
a
project.
O
And
as
far
as
next
steps-
because
that's
the
category
we're
at
right
now-
we
will
be
talking
about
parking,
for
instance,
as
we
fold
in
our
constraints,
analysis,
along
with
our
policy
suggestions.
So
just
a
heads
up
there
that
that's
going
to
be
part
of
our
discussion.
We've
mentioned
that
at
other
meetings.
I
just
want
to
keep
that
alive
so
that
it's
not
a
surprise
when
we
do
have
those
conversations.
O
So
here
our
gis
team
here
at
cupertino
put
together
these
maps
that
are
super
helpful.
We
can
see
all
of
the
different
schools,
because
we
know
that
the
planning
commissioners
wanted
this
to
be
part
of
our
guiding
principles,
to
consider
school
areas
and
to
do
what
we
can
to
encourage,
encourage
new
housing
to
go
in
those
areas.
That
would
maybe
keep
schools
alive.
O
We
also
so
this
is
a
a
carryover
from
a
map
that
we
had
at
our
one
of
our
earliest
meetings,
where
the
school
locations
were
something
that
the
planning
commissioners
had
to
ask
to
have
an
overlay.
So
I
I
just
wanted
to
bring
this
in
and
we
can
return
to
it.
If
there's
any
specific
questions
around
that,
so
tonight's
format.
O
So
the
schedule
for
tonight's
sites
review
we're
suggesting
that
we
begin
with
public
comment,
of
course,
after
the
commissioner's
comments
and
questions,
and
that
that
it
be
clear
that
comments
are
welcomed,
with
a
request
for
a
focus
on
the
neighborhood
areas
and
that's
because
next
we
were
hoping
to
review
all
of
the
neighborhood
areas
together
at
once
and
and
then
the
kind
of
voting
we
were
at.
We
were
contemplating
and
luke.
O
So,
rather
than
go
site
by
site
that
we
would
go
neighborhood
area
by
neighborhood
area
and
then
next
again,
we
thought
that
we
would
welcome
public
comment
to
speak
about
special
areas
specifically,
so
that
that
way,
the
public
comments
could
be
considered
as
the
commissions
deliberate
about
each
of
the
special
areas
and
all
the
sites
among
them.
And
then.
Lastly,
there
would
be
a
public
comment
for
just
general
comments
and
hopefully
a
recommendation
one
way
or
another
preparation
for
council
review.
A
A
A
A
P
There
good
evening,
everybody
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak
and
looking
forward
to
a
good
productive
meeting
in
tonight's
agenda
package.
There
looks
like
there's
really
two
main
documents:
there's
the
site
inventory
table,
that's
the
excel
spreadsheet,
with
addresses
and
apns
being
really
the
only
way
to
identify
a
property
and
then
there's
the
reference
map
for
recommended
sites.
That
andy
showed-
and
this
is
a
map
with
colored
sites
that
really
only
show
the
pipeline
tier
1
and
tier
2
sites,
but
no
other
information.
P
P
P
Will
the
property
owner
in
a
new
residential
development
be
required
to
replace
any
of
that
existing
commercial
square
footage,
or
could
they
build
just
a
hundred
percent
residential?
I
think
that's
important
for
both
landowners
and
nearby
residents
who
frequent
those
businesses
today
I
know
we
talked
about
it
in
a
global
aspect.
P
I'm
just
curious.
You
know
when
we're
going
to
see
a
breakdown
on
a
specific
site
basis.
If
I'm
a
landowner,
I
might
really
want
my
site
on
the
list,
but
if
it's
100
very
low
that
may
be
greater,
it
may
change
my
mind.
And
lastly,
I
think
this
is
really
important
is
the
city's
default
density
is
for
tier
one
sites
is
30
units
an
acre.
I
know
that
comes
from
hcd
guidance,
I'm
curious.
What
what
type
of
product
the
city
would
envision
at
that
density,
townhomes
start
to
top
out
at
24
units.
P
An
acre
and
a
lot
of
these
sites
on
the
list
are
under
a
half
acre
and
a
developer.
If
you've
got
a
half
acre
is
not
going
to
go
below
grade
unless
he's
got
the
ability
to
go
up,
10
stories,
and
so
I
just
think
in
practicality
it'd
be
great
to
understand
at
30
units
an
acre.
What
what
is
you
know
what's
mom
and
dad
going
to
see
with
this
project's
bill?
Thank
you
very
much
appreciate
it.
A
Wow,
thank
you.
Those
were
excellent
questions,
pew
or
luke
or
andy.
Can
you
address
those
questions
because
I
think
many
members
of
the
public
include,
including
me,
have
wondered
about
why
the
height
isn't
there
and
about
how
a
property
owner
or
the
city
would
dictate
the
number
of
units
in
each
income
category
and.
O
Start,
okay,
so
great
so
on
our
on
our
table.
We
did
include
stories,
it's
not
the
height,
but
I
and
I'm
hoping
that
that
that
is
what
ended
up
getting
printed
and
collected
in
with
the
with
the
agenda
packet,
we'll
make
sure
that
that's
attached
to
the
website,
if
not
and
as
far
as
the
cross
referencing
with
the
map,
we're
super
excited
to
share
with
you
the
product
that
we
are
rolling
out
well,
along
with
this
agenda
packet.
O
So
we
do
have
an
ability
for
that
toggling
for
that
ability
to
see
exactly
where
it
is,
and
then
we
also
have-
and
this
is
what
I'll
share
once
we
get
talking
about
the
site
specifically.
But
we
have
a
website
survey
that
that
has
a
narrative
for
each
and
every
site
and
it
includes
an
aerial
image
so
that
you
have
that
ability
and
then
right
within
that
ability
is
the
place
where
we're
asking
you
to
give
us
feedback.
O
O
Some
housing
element
updates:
we've
seen,
have
displacement
plans
or
policies
in
place
to
to
encourage
an
offset
for
any
commercial
property
owner
or
lease
holder
that
would
have
to
be
displaced
with
any
housing
that
would
get
developed,
and
I
do
have
my
teammate
here,
david
mason,
who
could
speak
a
little
bit
to
to
that
question
about
at
30
dwelling
units
per
acre?
What
kind
of
housing
typology
is
that
david?
Would
you
like
to
chime
in
and
is
that?
Okay.
A
Q
So
I
think
just
to
to
give
a
general
idea
on
that
when
you're
looking
at
the
number
of
stories
for
residential,
you
can
assume
10
foot
height
per
floor,
and
if
there
there's
ground
floor,
retail
that'll
probably
be
15
feet.
So
therefore,
a
three
floor
building
would
be
15,
plus
10
plus
10,
which
would
get
you
to
35
feet.
Q
I
I
chair,
sharp,
is
absolute
you're,
absolutely
correct
that
what
the
roof
does
and
whether
there's
mechanical
equipment,
may
you
know,
increase
that
height
to
a
certain
extent,
but
I
think
just
for
a
rough
order
of
magnitude.
That's
how
to
think
about
it.
Andy
to
answer
your
question
in
terms
of
30
units,
the
the
commenter
was
correct.
Q
That
townhouses
are
under
30
units
per
acre,
usually
so
you're
going
to
look
at
essentially
a
multi-floor
product
here
generally,
what's
penciling
these
days
is,
is
town
homes
and
then
maybe
four
floors
of
wood
frame,
probably
not
much
taller
than
that.
That
certainly
would
get
you
up
to
30
units
per
acre.
It
would
get
you
more.
It
just
comes
down
to
a
question
about
where
all
that
is
parked.
I
Thank
you
very
much.
I
appreciate
everyone
taking
their
time
to
try
to
deal
with
this
total.
You
don't
believe
me
mess
that
hcd
has
dumped
on
us.
Gavin
lost
my
vote
when
he
okayed
sb9
and
10,
and
I
will
never
vote
for
him
for
president.
I
don't
want
this
baggage
dragged
to
the
federal
level.
I
am
very,
very
concerned
that
every
time
we
up
zone
property,
even
if
you
don't
build
housing,
the
value
of
the
property
goes
up.
Okay
and
that's
fine.
I
If
you
own
property,
if
my
home
was
up
zoned
into
50
units,
I
would
be
a
much
wealthier
person.
That's
just
how
a
lot
the
law
of
things
go,
whether
these
people
build
things
or
not.
We
don't
know,
but
I
I'm
gonna
just
put
the
full
blame
on
hcd
at
this
point.
They
are
the
villain.
They
are
the
statewide
villain
and
the
inflated
arena
numbers,
whoever
created.
That
is
another
villainous
group,
but
this
is
not
going
to
go
down
lightly
in
this
city.
I
I,
I
would
even
vote
as
another
party
for
a
president,
because
I
will
never
vote
for
gavin
ever
ever
again,
and
I
have
politicians
that
I
will
never
vote
for
because
they
are
backing
sb9
and
sb10
in
this
situation.
Getting
down
to
this
in
another
city,
there
were
two
churches
that
wound
up
on
their
housing
element
site
the
churches
and
the
parishioners
did
not
even
know
that
their
churches
had
been
listed.
I
know
because
one
of
them
was
my
church.
I
A
shopping
center
was
put
on
that
list.
I
don't
think
the
owner
of
the
shopping
center,
even
though
it
was
there.
Now
that
you
talk
about
an
insult
to
a
citizen
of
this
state,
your
church
is
put
on
a
housing
element
list
and
and
and
that
and
I'm
not
going
to
blame
the
city
and
that
the
hcd
does
not
even
have
the
courtesy
to
tell
people
that
go
to
that
church.
For
the
last
god
knows
how
many
years
that
they
want
to
build
housing
on
a
church
site,
give
me
a
break.
I
R
A
R
L
A
R
A
R
Thank
you
perfect,
so
I
included
this
slide
and
identified
some
of
the
sites
and
some
of
the
neighborhoods.
This
is
obviously
a
very
rough
effort,
but
you
know
in
the
the
goals
that
were
discussed.
Andy
was
sharing
about
access
to
resources
for
our
sites
and
also
trying
to
balance
east
and
west
development.
R
R
R
I
don't
know
seven
to
six
monday
through
friday,
but
it's
an
extremely
useful
route,
and
I
just
hope
that
is
it's
possible
as
we're
thinking
about
adding
more
homes,
adding
more
people
and
trying
to
reduce
congestion
that
maybe
there's
an
opportunity
to
you
know
work
with
saratoga
and
los
altos
and
even
mountain
view
and
say
hey.
This
would
be
great,
a
great
transit
edition
on
the
west
side
that
really
could
help
us
unlock
some
housing,
and
so
I've
just
included
this
here.
It's
it's
for
your
reference.
R
D
D
If
you
can
upgrade
these
are
older
buildings
and
you
could
do
retail
on
the
bottom
housing
on
the
top
and
not
lose
anything
again.
Also
on
stephens
creek
boulevard
on
the
south
side
across
from
the
post
office
between
orange
avenue
and
the
railroad
tracks,
there
are
several
older
buildings
that
could
go
up.
You
know
another
story
and
add
housing
on
bub
from
stevens
creek
to
mcclellan.
D
Even
if
the
the
owners
have
not
responded,
you
could
use
them
as
tier
two.
It's
you've
added
bikes
and
and
a
nice
bus
route
pull
over
it.
It
just
fits
also
in
the
previous
april
26
meeting
there
were
errors
in
the
presentation
and
the
materials
and
they're
still
there.
There
are
four
that
I
can
point
out.
School
overlay
is
missing:
lawson
middle
school
number,
two
site
3a,
is
not
in
garden
gate.
D
It's
in
north
blaney
there's
the
map
is
missing:
site
3b
on
mary
avenue,
it's
the
eli
site
and
site
9a,
one
of
the
parcels
is
it
it's
on
north
blaney
and
280
public
storage.
There's
a
a
residential
home
that
keeps
getting
included
and
pugh
said
that
the
owner
was
not
interested
in
being
in
this
and
yet
twice
now
in
the
two
presentations,
this
poor
homeowner,
who
probably
doesn't
know
it,
is
about
to
be
put
on
the
housing
element.
D
Please
fix
these
errors
before
they
go
to
the
city
council.
Also.
I
want
to
reiterate
what
the
first
speaker
said
about
a
resident.
Not
knowing
density
doesn't
mean
anything
to
me
height,
I'm
concerned
about
some
of
the
density,
certain
areas
and
I'll
speak
in
those
different
neighborhoods.
But
thank
you.
A
K
A
K
A
K
A
J
J
Okay,
so
I
guess
I'll
just
do
bullets,
then.
I
really
appreciate
every
time
scott
connolly
talks
because
he
says
what
I
want
to
say
only
in
a
much
better
way
and
he
knows
comes
from
the
side
that
knows
best
stories
versus
hype.
I
don't
buy
the
comment
that,
oh
I'm,
sorry
david,
but
we
need
height.
We
don't
need
stories
and
unknowns.
J
We
need
hype
and
to
me
that's
not
negotiable.
You
know.
Schools
are
talked
about
at
l
and
by
the
way,
the
number
of
units
units
per
acre,
the
30
the
number
30
has
been
thrown
around,
but
in
the
heart
of
the
city
area
on
the
east
side,
which
there
that's
where
all
the
heart
of
the
cities
are
dumped,
it
seems
there's
some
others,
but
they're,
all
50
per
acre.
So
we
are
talking
in
a
very
already
very
concentrated
in
high
density
area
thanks
to
velco,
etc.
J
J
And
there's
sorry,
I
think
it's
important
to
also
consider
the
tri-school
area
number
two
on
the
east
side,
because
we're
going
to
have
construction
at
valco
for
10
years,
with
horrendous
traffic
machines
and
dirt
and
trucks,
etcetera
everywhere
and
yet
they're
very,
very
high
density
units.
Excuse
me
sites
being
suggested
in
the
same
area
across
the
street
and
near
the
schools,
and
how
can
this
all
be
going
on?
At
the
same
time,
I
think
there
has
to
be
a
real
eye-opening.
J
Look
at
you
know
what
else
is
going
to
be
doing
going
on
construction-wise,
and
can
we
even
manage
all
this
at
the
same
time
if
people
start
dripping
in
with
their
identified
properties
at
these
high
density
levels
and
the
work
that
needs
to
be
done,
we
always
hear
about
the
tri-school
area
on
the
west
side,
safety
for
kids.
Well,
I'm
telling
you
there's
forever
been
a
tri-city
area
on
the
east
side,
cedric
and
cupertino
high,
and
these
are
all
there.
K
L
E
A
A
T
Okay,
some
somebody,
let
me
know
if
I
go
over
chair
shark
and
parish
and
commissioners.
I
write
to
you
this
evening
on
behalf
of
cupertino
for
all
which
seeks
to
create
a
more
inclusive,
sustainable
and
vibrant
cupertino
now
and
into
the
future.
Key
to
our
mission
is
educational
advocacy
in
relation
to
how
the
city
uses
the
land
in
its
jurisdiction.
T
We
thank
staff
from
the
city's
outside
consultant
emc
planning
for
a
much
improved,
proposed
insight,
inventory
and
analysis.
We
maintain
a
number
of
the
concerns,
our
organization,
members
and
individuals
in
the
public
raised
to
the
planning
commission's
april
26
2022
discussion
of
the
site
inventory.
T
K
2402
homes
in
p1
after
the
rise
of
600
net
new
homes
and
benign
the
mountains
combined,
these
two
projects
constitute
some
84
of
all
pipeline
project
homes
both
have
been
approved
for
a
number
of
years,
2018
2016
respectively,
but
to
date
neither
has
built
a
single
macro,
though
the
staff
report
underscores
the
pipeline
projects
have
a
high
likelihood
of
development.
The
large
size
of
these
two
projects
and
the
length
of
time
since
they
were
approved,
militates
against
either
being
fully
built
during
sixth
cycle
production
period.
K
If
at
all,
we
encourage
stock
namc
planning
to
demonstrate
how
the
city
will
facilitate
the
full
build
out
of
these
homes
over
the
sixth
cycle.
If
cupertino
wishes
to
count
these
sites
to
atd
satisfaction,
the
staff
report
notes
the
potential
for
infirmity
of
including
some
of
the
pipeline
project
sites
the
quotes.
We
have
yet
to
secure
letters
from
159
project
property
owners
stating
their
intention
to
build
their
homes
by
2031,
but
are
in
the
process
of
doing
so
and
expect
to
have
responses
from
the
faculty
owners
confirming
they're
intended
to
proceed
with
their
respective
projects.
K
T
K
K
S
K
With
so
much
of
the
site's
inventory,
relying
on
its
two
least
likely
pipeline,
we're
concerned
that
the
doctor
is
too
low
during
the
day,
see
these
requirements
and
may
implicate
the
no
net.
Last
month,
crooked,
as
a
fifth
cycle
buffer,
was
considerably
more
ambitious
and
ultimately
helped
generate
project
applications
for
each
housing
element
site.
Even
if
not
all
side
sites
produce
that
housing.
A
C
O
A
C
C
So
you
see
that
it
is
29
here
29
here,
maybe
17
here
for
this
montevista
north,
it's
very
low
on
monta
vista,
south
8.6
units
and
but
besides,
besides
that,
I
think
I'm
just
going
to
go
here
which
are
the
red
ones,
so
the
red
ones
are.
I'm
only
counting
tier
one
area
in
this
one
and
as
you
notice
that
this
is
like
48
units
per
acre
on
this
one
and
this
sterling
gateway.
C
This
is
around
79
units
per
acre.
So
I
I
would
like
to
know
the
reason
why
there
is
these
two
really
pops
out
over
all
other
neighborhoods,
all
other
neighborhoods.
If
you
notice
it
is
29
most
of
the
time
29
29
29,
29,
31
31.
These
two
are
the
special
ones
where
things
are
not.
They
are
over
populated
basically,
and
this
has
a
ramifications
on
the
schools
and
all
sorts
of
other
things
right.
A
C
L
L
L
Correct
yeah,
if
you
look
at
those
the
the
individual
sites
are
coming
in
at
much
lower
density,
minimum
densities
per
acre.
So
that's
why
you
know-
and
that's
really
just
a
compatibility
question-
that
we
have
some
areas
that
are
like
heart
of
the
city
that
are
at
50
units
per
acre
and
also
selling
gateway.
L
C
C
L
So
in
in
this,
there
are
more
sites
shown
along
south
anza
and
we
tried
to
retain
as
much
as
we
could
on
the
west
side
and
by
doing
that,
without
trying
to
have
a
number
that
was
way
over
arena.
We
took
some
sites
down
and
essentially
put
them
as
tier
two.
So
if,
in
the
course
of
the
discussion
tonight,
you
feel
that
those
sites
should
be
added
back
or
are
better
than
some
of
the
tier
one
sites,
that's
exactly
the
kind
of
feedback
we
would
want
to
get.
C
So
I
mean
my
point
is
not
I
mean
they
are
this,
they
are
not
proportional.
That's.
My
point
is
basically,
if
you
look
at
it
in
monta
vista
south,
there
is
no
tier
2
okay.
So
although
the
total
acreage
is
around
three
acres
in
somewhere
around
2.5
acres
in
montevista
south,
but
there
is
no
tier
2
allocated
there,
whereas,
if
you
go
to
you
know,
as
I
was
telling
you
that
total
acreage
62
percent
is
in
heart
of
the
city,
east
goes
to
tier
2.
C
And
77
percent
goals
in
north
rainy
goes
to
tier
two,
so
it
is
kind
of
very,
very
wide
variation
across
each
neighborhood
for
tier
two
allocation.
So
I
I
I
don't
know
I
mean,
but
I
couldn't
rationalize
that.
Basically,
how
you're
getting
this
is
that
based
on
the
some
feedback
from
the
residents
or
is
that
the
data
you
collected
or
what
is
the
reason
that
it
is
not
normalized
across
different
neighborhoods.
L
B
L
Sites
that
were
still
concentrating
properties
on
the
eastern
portion
of
the
city,
so
that
was
why
they're
essentially
downgraded
from
tier
one
to
tier
two.
It
does
not
mean
you
cannot
add
them
back
some.
Some
of
the
smaller
areas
don't
have
a
tier
two
site
because
they
didn't
have
very
many
sites
to
begin
with,
so
we.
C
So
one
exercise
I
did
was
that
I
added
tier
two
area
to
some
sites
where
your
number
of
units
per
tier
one
percentage
was
very
high
per
acre
was
very
high,
like
in
heart
of
the
city
east,
where
you
are
approaching
50
there,
okay
and
if
you
add
tier
2,
that
percentage
goes
down.
So
maybe
that
is
something
you
might
want
to
take
a
look
at
it
and
add
where
the
density
is
very
high.
C
C
M
M
A
M
So
this
is
how
the
city
is
in
terms
of
its
land
use
layer
and
if
we
take
the
the
hands
of
libert
as
a
kind
of
a
line
you
know
dividing
line
or
whatever
you
see
that
the
on
the
right
side
of
the
city,
the
the
area
to
the
right,
the
amount
of
land
to
the
right,
which
is
the
east
side,
is
probably
half
of
the
area
and
the
land
to
the
left
of
the
answer.
So
that
is
one
observation.
M
M
M
So
that's
something
to
keep
in
mind
about
the
north
south
kind
of
access
to
freeways,
so
I
would
like
to
go
to
the
next
screen,
so
I
think
I
need
to
do
a
stop.
Sharing
here,
go
back
and
pick
the
next
one,
which
is
the
yeah.
This
was
the
this
was
a
screen
which
was
shared
by
andy
flower.
I
appreciate
you
know
him.
M
Right
there
we
go:
okay,
yes
yeah
yeah.
So
so,
if
you
look
at
this,
this
is
a
kind
of
the
reference
map
for
site
distribution.
At
the
same
time,
it
also
presents
the
location
of
schools.
So
it's
very
interesting
because
we
can
see
that
there
are
certain
schools
on
the
right
side,
especially
the
high
school
and
middle
school
and
stuff
like
that,
and
then
we
can
see
a
similar
layout
on
the
left
side.
And
you
know,
schools
are,
of
course,
a
very
important
concentration
for
any
kind
of
distribution
of
sites.
M
M
So
I
looked
at
the
current
allocation,
for
you
know
how
the
inventory
list
actually
divides
the
units
on
the
what
is
called
the
east
side
and
the
west
side.
So,
as
I
mentioned
before,
the
east
side
is
half
in
land
area
compared
to
the
west
side,
and
if
you
take
the
sum
total
of
the
units,
the
site
inventory
of
east
side.
M
Of
course,
the
pipeline
projects
are
a
major
chunk,
that's
3002
and
we
have
the
neighborhood
areas,
which
is
190
and
then
actually
is
758,
add
up
to
close
to
about
4
000
units
on
the
east
side.
If
you
scroll
over
to
the
left
side
on
the
west
side,
we
have
pipeline
projects
with
534.
I
think
one
of
them
is
the
marina
project,
the
and
probably
the
westport,
and
then
there's
the
neighborhood
areas
is
167,
especially
729
added
to
14
zero
units.
M
So
if
you
take
a
ratio,
if
you
were
to
just
kind
of
hypothetically
take
a
ratio
of
the
number
of
units
that
are
going
to
be
added
over
this
eight
year
period
on
the
east
side
to
west
side,
east
side
will
have
2.5
times
the
number
of
units.
That's
going
to
be
added
by
the
west
side
based
on
you
know,
whatever
is
the
whatever
the
choices
that
are
made.
M
If
you
take
it
per
acre
compared
to
the
west
side,
I
think
we
need
planning
to
show
us
some
love
on
the
east
side.
I
think
five
times
compared
to
on
the
west
side.
I
think
that
is
pretty
disproportionate
and
that's
the
reason
I
have
to
mention
here
that
the
land
use
there's
a
severe
balance
in
current
inventory
list.
So
one
one
of
the
things
which
I
definitely
listened
to
luke
today.
He
said
that
there
are
certain
sites
which
are
currently
on
tier
one,
which
can
be
probably
relegated
to
tier
two.
M
There
are
sites
in
tier
two
which
can
be
upgraded
to
tier
one.
So
if
there's
a
way
by
which
we
can
kind
of
bring
some
balance
because
we
can't
change
the
pipeline
projects,
but
we
can
definitely
go
ahead
and
do
a
little
bit
of
of
the
you
know,
sites
that
have
been
selected
for
neighborhoods
and
special
areas.
So
here
I
have
another
comment.
M
The
very
idea
of
neighborhoods
and
special
areas
was
based
on
the
idea
that
oh
in
the
neighborhoods,
there
are
people
who
are
living
and
special
areas
are
kind
of
a
mixed
used
kind
of
thing,
but
once
we
have
housing,
there's
absolutely
no
difference
a
special
area
in
the
neighborhood
radio
both
have
healthy
so
well.
Why
would
something
a
special
area
if
it
is
going
to
have
housing?
M
A
Yeah,
thank
you
glove
and-
and
I
was
thinking
the
same
thing
when
I
was
someone
mentioned
earlier.
Well,
we
really
distributed
the
sites,
half
and
half
well
yeah
you
did,
but
only
if
you
totally
ignore
the
pipeline
sites.
So
clearly
this
you
can't
really
do
it
that
way.
Anyway.
Next
we
have
connie
cunningham
welcome
connie.
N
Good
evening
again,
chair
sharp
and
shared
parish
and
commissioners-
I
guess
I
come
from.
I
came
from
a
slightly
different
take
on
this.
I
specifically
looked
at
the
principles
and
objectives
that
were
given
by
the
planning
commission
to
the
staff
and
emc,
and
there
was
a
chart
actually
that
you
put
up
a
little
earlier,
but
I
can
just
say
them:
number
one
is
to
be
dispersed
throughout
the
city.
Two
is
to
avoid
or
minimize
displacement.
N
N
Why
is
that
still
on
there,
and
that
was
interesting
to
hear
in
the
questions
and
answers
here
that
that
was
left
on,
because
maybe
a
commissioner
would
like
to
keep
that
on,
and
I
would
just
go
so
far
as
to
say
as
a
housing
commissioner
in
charge
of
below
market
rate
housing.
I
would
absolutely
not
be
in
favor
of
keeping
on
an
apartment
complex
that
would
be
displacing
residents
when
you
have
got
eight
other
areas
that
aren't
even
on
the
list
at
all.
N
So
I
I
would
just
say
that
first
starts
that
I
start
with,
although
it's
number
two
avoiding
or
minimizing
displacement
is
number
one
where
I
come
from,
so
that
was
interesting
about
the
principles
and
objectives.
I
have
an
example
but
of
the
one,
but
I'll
be
I
wanted
to
get
down
here.
To
my
other
question,
what
were
the
reasons
for
the
exceptions?
N
So
if
they're
on
there
and
we're
trying
to
figure
out
if
we
want
to
use
them
or
not
use
them,
how
do
we
know
how
many
units
that
we
can
expect
to
get
from
that
because
and
you'll
know
why
I'm
asking
in
a
minute
and
then
that
I
recommend
that
these
tier
two
estimates
be
added
before
it
goes
towards
the
to
the
city
council
for
review.
Thirdly,
these
are
still
questions.
N
I
have
lots
of
other
comments,
but
these
are
questions
are
any
of
the
adus
deed,
restricted
and
the
reason
I
asked
that
question
is
that
I
noticed
on
the
chart
that
you
show
adus
in
several.
You
know
very
low
income,
low
income
moderate
unless
they're
need
restricted.
They
can't
be
below
market
rate
they're
all
considered
moderate
rate
or
above
marker
anyway,
they're
they're
not
deep
restricted.
As
far
as
I
know.
N
N
H
A
L
L
L
We
just
did
not
include
the
total
units
on
this,
because
the
tier
one
sites
were
essentially
what
was
being
recommended
in
terms
of
adus.
There
really
are
no
deed
restrictions
on
adus,
and
this
is
something
that
perhaps
andy
can
chime
in
as
well.
But
hcd
is
getting
this
question
from
all
of
the
cities
as
well.
L
In
terms
of
how
do
we
account
for
affordability
with
adus-
and
I
think
you
you
can
safely
skew
them
down
into
the
low
and
moderate
income
categories
very
low
could
be
problematic,
but
I
think
adus
are
essentially
fitting
that
category
of
affordable
by
design,
rather
than
a
traditional,
bmr
or
deed,
restricted
unit
and
again
we're
hoping
to
get.
You
know
if
there's
more
certainty
provided
by
hcd
with
exactly
what
percentage
breakdown
we
can
use
them
as
we'll
go
with
that.
L
The
comment
about
no
addresses
for
some
of
the
properties.
There
are
a
couple
sites
on
there
that
were,
I
know
up
near
stelling
in
homestead,
two
of
the
sites
were
church
properties.
I
believe
one
of
them
had
like
sand
volleyball
courts
or
a
lawn
area
that
parcel
did
not
have
an
address,
there's
a
parking
lot
on
there.
That
does
not
have
an
address
so
they're
generally
sites
that
don't
have
a
structure
or
an
independent
use
on
them,
they're
kind
of
working
in
conjunction
with
a
larger
property
and
the
mary
avenue
site.
L
That's
on
the
list
is
part
of
the
right-of-way
right
now,
so
that
does
not
have
its
own
apn
either
in
terms
of
owner
interest,
we
had
had
a
form
that
property
owners
could
submit
to
us.
I
believe
we
got
between
50
and
60
of
those
that
would
indicate
whether
or
not
you
wanted
your
site
included
on
the
housing
inventory.
L
Many
of
those
sites
are
here.
We
had
some
owner
interest
sites
that
were
not
going
to
be
good
candidates
either.
The
lot
was
too
small
or
it
had
a
single
family
home
on
it.
So
it
really
was
owner
preference.
Some
people
had
fairly
defined
ideas
with
what
they'd
like
to
see
done
with
their
property,
others
that
submitted
the
form
simply
indicated
that
they'd
like
to
be
on
the
list.
So
I
think
that
touched
on
all
of
the
questions.
N
So
I
kind
of
oh
it's
the
other
side
of
the
street,
that
san
jose
that
side
of
the
street
is
still
cupertino.
I
knew
about
kiku
sushi
and
the
coach
house
and
the
gas
station,
but
any
case
all
that
aside,
I
I
noticed
that
there
was
property
interest.
I
mean
property
owner's
interest
on
a
lot
of
them
and
that's
what
I
was
particularly
curious
about
if
all
of
those
businesses
had
turned
in
a
letter,
and
so
thank
you
that
that
does
help
me
understand
that
situation
better.
A
G
Thank
you,
commissioner
scharf.
I
just
had
a
couple
of
comments
and
one
of
the
most
important
things
that
I
think
commissioner
kapil
brought
up
was
the
density
and
when
I
looked
at
the
chart
that
was
provided
to
us
on
the
general
plan
designation,
the
the
properties
on
the
west
side-
and
this
also
goes
into
what
commissioner
tata
chari
had
also
mentioned.
G
A
second
follow-up
to
that
is-
and
this
would
be
with
the
developer-
is
how
many
parking
spots
are
they
allowing
for
each
of
those
units?
Because
what
happens
is
in
any
new
development
since
I'm
a
realtor,
I
notice
it
in
the
new
developments.
There
is
very
little
parking
you
may
have.
Maybe
you
know
you
if
I
have
to
go
visit
somewhere,
which
is
in
a
condo
unit
or
a
town
home
unit,
you're
lucky
to
find
parking.
You
know
a
couple
of
blocks
away
and
then
you
have
to
trace
down
all
the
way.
G
So
that's
the
next
question
that
I
had
and
if
someone
could
address
that,
that
would
be
great
and
thank
you
very
much
for
doing
this
joint
meeting.
I
think
this
was
very
well
served
for
the
community
and
it
brings
all
our
resources
together
and
thank
you
to
commissioner
sharp
for
heading
this
effort.
Thank.
L
Yeah,
I
think
on
it
seems,
like
the
majority
of
the
comments
went
to
parking
and
right
now,
there's
nothing
proposing
changing
the
city's
existing
parking
standards.
I
I
think
the
the
commissioner
is
correct,
that
as
you
get
increased
density
and
you're,
seeing
it
in
a
lot
of
cities
where
they're
kind
of
flipping
parking
from
providing
parking
minimums
to
going
to
parking
maximums
as
you
get
more
urban
scale
development,
that's
not
something
that
we've
included
in
this
we're
really
just
looking
at
the
unit
density.
L
For
now
I
I
would
make
a
pretty
safe
assumption
that
for
some
of
the
higher
density
sites,
nearly
all
of
them
are
going
to
request
a
density
bonus
and
would
probably
be
looking
at
parking
reductions
of
some
kind
from
what's
allowed.
But
you
know
that
may
be
something
as
we
look
at
the
rezoning
for
these
sites
that
we
revisit
the
parking
requirements
at
that
time,
especially
where
you're
getting
30
to
potentially
50
minimum
per
80
developments,
and
I
think
the
second
question
the
commissioner
bose
had
also
went
to
just
concerns
about
density.
L
South
and
boulevard
also
has
30
per
acre,
but
if
the
commission
has
comments
about
trying
to
balance
the
density
out,
we
welcome
that.
You
know
the
one
issue
we
have
to
keep
in
mind
when
we
submit
to
hcd
is
that
we
need
to
be
having
a
realistic
density
for
each
site.
So
if
we
were
to
have
smaller
properties
in
largely
single
family
areas
and
we're
putting
high
densities
on
them,
it
would
not
really
match
up
for
a
realistic
density
for
properties
like
that.
L
G
Whatever
have
you
so,
the
comment
I
made
was
actually
trying
to
put
this
in
the
minds
of
the
planning
commission
that
they
should
think
about
it
for
the
long
term,
maybe
not
right
away
for
this
particular
element,
but
maybe
in
the
long
term,
because
unless
you
do
that
you're
going
to
be
skewed,
there's
going
to
be
single
family
homes,
lopsided
on
the
west
side
and
there's
going
to
be
condos
and
townhouses
and
everything
else
on
the
east
side.
So
that
was
my
comment.
The
reason
why
I
brought
that
up.
A
C
E
Thank
you,
chad,
shah.
I
have
a
bunch
of
you,
know
general
questions.
Hopefully
none
of
those
can
be
answered,
and
then
I
have
specific
comments
about.
You
know
specific
properties
and
all
that.
But
those
comments
not
wait
until
you
know
we
get
through
the
areas
right.
So
the
first
one
is
I've
been
asking
for
the
excel
spreadsheet
version
of
another
400
sites.
E
Unless
you
know
I
mean
with
you
know
as
much
data
as
possible,
so
that
I
can
kind
of
you
know,
go
through
it.
Unless
I
missed
something
you
know
I
the
only
expression
that
I
saw
was
you
know
what
came
from
you
know
look
for
the
weekend,
so
I
was
wondering
you
know
what
happened
to
that
request
of
you
know
all
sides
with
as
much
attributes
as
possible
in
excel
spreadsheet
form,
so
that
now
we
can
do
the
math
and
you
know,
sort
and
do
a
whole
bunch
of
things.
The
only.
E
L
Well,
I
think
the
the
goal
was
to
try
to
get
this
to
an
easier
decision
point
and
focus
the
sites
down,
because
we're
looking
at
even
with
what
we
have
now,
I
could
see
where
we
would
be
well
over
the
arena,
plus
even
the
30
percent,
that
I
mean
I
going
back
to
that.
I
think
it
was
396
properties,
you're,
you're,
correct
in
in
february
yeah,
so
it
was.
L
It
was
a
very
large
amount
and
yeah
it
was
not
in
excel,
but
it
was
in
a
very,
very
long
list
of
properties,
many
of
which
really
shouldn't
have
been
there.
They
were
undersized,
or
there
were
a
lot
of
reasons
why
they
wouldn't
work.
Okay,
it
just
seemed
like
a
difficult
thing
to
go
back
to
that
very
large
amount
of
properties
and
to
try
to
to
get
this
moving
along.
E
Okay,
so
yeah,
you
know
I
understand,
I
I,
like
the
latest
version
that
I
got
you
know
with
the
recommendation
and
all
that,
but
I
would
have
liked
to
see
you
know
the
raw
data
right
for
me
to
because
the
sites
that
did
not
make
the
cut-
I
don't
know
what
we
are
missing
right.
So
that's
the
reason
anyway.
E
So
second
one
any
reason
why
the
largest
sites
on
the
bob
road
and
imperial
avenue
and
near
the
post
office,
you
know
none
of
them
made
the
cut
in
the
tier
one
and
tier
two
and
that's
part
of
you
know
heart
of
the
city.
If
you
really
look
at
you
know
those
properties,
I'm
sure
no
I'll
bring
it
up.
You
know
when
we
focus
on
that
particular
area,
so
and
also
it
aligns
with
you
know
the
comments
that
you
know.
One
of
the
residents
made
known
lyanna
crabtree.
E
L
T
Yes,
can
you
hear
me
better
now
sure
yeah,
okay,
perfect,
so
the
sites
that
you're
talking
about
sir
on
bub
road?
There
is
no
owner
interest
from
any
of
the
sites
on
bub
road.
Many
of
those
have
long-term
leases
with
reputable
companies,
and
they
are
not
willing
to
give
up
those
leases.
I
think
the
exercise
is
to
not
do
a
paper
exercise,
but
actually
try
to
have
sites
that
will
get
developed
within
the
next
eight
years.
T
Of
course,
if
there
is
anybody
in
the
community
that
has
any
information
about
these
sites,
being
you
know
available
for
development,
we're
certainly
happy
to
recommend
those
sites
to
view
housing
sites
as
well.
With
regard
to
the
sites
you
know,
the
there
is
a.
There
are
a
couple
of
smaller
sites
along
stevens
creek.
You
know
the
city's
general
plan
does
account
for
a
rural
urban
transition
at
85,
and
there
is
the
the
densities
in
a
lot
around.
T
E
T
E
T
E
Okay,
so
if
I'm
a
site
owner
for
one
of
these
sites
in
the
list,
what
does
it
mean
for
my
site
being
on
a
tier
one
list
versus
tier
two
list?
You
know
is
anything
changing.
You
know
from
what
it
is
now
to
you
know
when
it
goes
on
a
tier
one
list.
You
know
what
happens
to
it
and
if
it
goes
on
at
here
to
list
what
happens
to
it,.
T
So
if
you
would
want
to
think
about
it,
you
want
to
think
about
tier
one
sites
as
the
sites
that
will
end
up
in
the
housing
element.
The
tier
two
sites
are
just
for
your
consideration
to
think
about.
You
know
whether
do
you
want
to
replace
one
of
the
currently
proposed
tier
1
sites
with
a
tier
2
site.
T
E
T
So
eight
city
guidelines
currently
state
that,
as
long
as
we
have
approved
those
projects-
and
there
is
those
projects,
are,
you
know,
active
active
meaning
that
they're
approved
up
to
a
certain
day.
You
know
we
can
take
those
according
to
their
guidelines.
We
can
use
those
as
pipeline
projects
that
that
is.
That
is
what
they
say
in
their
guidelines.
However,
you
know
hcd
might
decide,
you
know
they
make
that
call
about
whether
we
can
or
we
can't
so
they
have
to.
E
F
Hi
good
evening,
thank
you
chair.
So
a
lot
of
my
questions
have
been
answered,
but
I
did
have
a
concern
and
the
same
comment
about
the
density
and
and
the
amount
the
number
of
sites
on
the
west
side.
Not
let
alone
forget
the
density,
so
my
concern
was
in
watching
other
housing
updates
for
other
cities.
F
It
was
made
and
really
pointed
out
that
for
the
in
consideration
for
the
fair
housing
and
the
intent
to
distribute
and
and
not,
they
showed
one,
one
particular
study
showed
the
affluent
er
part
of
the
the
city
and
then
the
the
lower
income,
and
it
was
very
obvious
where
the
the
housing
was
indicated
and
they
specifically
said
we
need
to
balance
this.
This
is
what
fair
housing
was
intended
to
do
was
to
balance
so
that
it
wasn't
one
side
to
the
other
side.
It
that's
the
new.
F
F
I
think
that,
given
a
year's
time,
that's
that's
almost
impossible
to
do
so.
I
had
heard
from
some
people
saying:
well,
we
don't
know,
what's
going
to
happen,
we
select
a
site
that
would
be
good
based
on
all
the
factors
that
are
appropriate
and
then
now
now
I'm
hearing
a
letter
of
commitment.
So
is
it
just
for
the
the
pipeline
that
requires
a
letter
or
is
it
for
everything
else?
T
I
can
try
to
answer
chair,
chair
parrish's
question
about
the
distribution
of
sites
links
you
on
the
screen
here.
I
just
wanted
to
take.
You
know
a
moment
to
go
over
this
map,
which
is
from
the
I
believe
it's
called
the
institute
of
ability
and
belonging.
It
is
a
tcat
map
which
shows
what
has
is
the
highest
resource
areas
in
cupertino.
T
T
C
I
just
want
to
make
a
comment
and
confuse.
There
is
a
when
you
make
a
lopsided
distribution
like
what
you
have
done.
Sorry
being
blunt
there,
the
the
problem
is
that
you
are
not
only
affecting
the
schools
in
that
neighborhood,
because
you
have
increased
intensity
to
a
greater
extent
in
one
side
of
the
city
and
to
a
lot
less
under
that.
C
A
F
I
just
wanted
to
respond.
Thank
you
chair.
If
you,
if
I
may
just
have
one
more
where
I
can
see.
Yes,
I
can
see
why
all
of
the
city
would
be
included
in
the
high
potential,
but
I
think
we
know
that
you
know
the
renters
in
in
the
rancho
rinconada
area,
with
hardly
any
resources,
for
you
know,
parks
and
and
whatnot,
and
overcrowded
schools
fair,
not
as
well
as
as
other
areas,
not
even
just
the
west
side
but
other
areas.
F
M
M
So
the
the
information
that
has
come
to
our
light
is
essentially
that
fcd
doesn't
doesn't
make
a
decision
in
terms
of
you
know
how
we
go
about
choosing
our
sites
and
we
already
know
there
is
a
lot
of
skew
in
the
city,
and
I
heard
comments
from
the
planning
commission
planning
department
about
you
know
when
they
were
talk
about
the
urban
rural
urban
divide.
I
think
when
we
are
a
high
reso
city
that
absolutely
makes
no
sense.
M
I
would
like
to
know
their
response
to
that
particular
question.
You
know
why
we
continue
to
kind
of
continue
to
use
that
terminology.
When
we
know
it's
a,
we
are
high
resource
city.
That
is
first
question.
Second
question
is
that
you
know
when,
when
it
was
pointed
out
that
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
add
density
when
it's
in
a
certain
neighborhood,
but
we
do
know
that
you
know
a
very
inappropriate
amount
of
density
has
been
added
on
the
east
side.
M
Next
to
the
single
family
homes,
we
have
a
manhattan
kind
of
a
development,
so
it
just
doesn't
make
sense.
How
is
it
right
for
one
side,
one
part
of
the
city
and
it's
not
right
for
the
other
part
of
the
city,
so
I
think
I
would
like
an
honest
ripple
to
both
these
questions,
because
I
think
we
should
not
make
a
side
selection
without
really
understanding
whether
it
is
a
planning
department
which
makes
the
call
or
whether
it's
a
cd.
M
T
T
T
With
regard
to
the
you
know,
on
the
west
side,
you
know
why
was
it
chosen
to
be
rural?
You
know.
That
is
something
that
you
know
the
the
policymakers
from
four
can
tell
us
about.
However,
I
will
state
that
the
topography
of
the
west
side
does
have
a
lot
of
hills.
As
you
know,
there's
there's
a
foothills.
There
is
there's
a
high
fire
severity
areas
which
disallow
you
know:
high
density
development.
On
on
certain
on
certain
parts
of
the
west
side.
T
There
aren't,
as
many
large
lots
on
the
west
side
that
are
available
for
development
in
what
is
might
be
considered,
the
flatter
part
of
the
west
side,
so
in
general.
Yes,
there
is
much
more
development
on
the
east
side,
but
that's
because
there
are
much
larger
lots
on
the
east
side
along
stevens
creek
boulevard,
even
along
the
anza
boulevard,
and
so
that
is
the
reason
why
historically,
that
has
happened.
T
Yes
can
you
can
we've
looked
at
the
entire
city
in
terms
of
what's
available
for
development,
what
a
city
might
buy
off
in
terms
of
development
and
that's
all
presented
to
you
tonight
in
our
recommendations,
but
there
aren't
any
sites
that
are
you
know
four
or
five
acres
that
the
ecb
will
buy
off
at
50
units
to
the
acre.
You
know
there
has
to
be
a
reasonableness
in
terms
of
picking
sites
that
are
higher
density
and
where
they're
located.
M
Surprised
because
we
are
talking
about
fair
housing,
how
is
it
that
we
have
a
five
to
one
ratio
between
east
and
west?
Where
is
the
fairness
in
that
kind
of
allocation
of
sites?
I
mean
choice
of
sites
makes
a
lot
of
difference.
Density
is
not
going
to,
you
know,
add
magically
add
itself,
so
I
think
we
have
resolved
this
issue
of
having
a
higher
density
five
times
the
density
addition
on
the
east
side
compared
to
the
west
side.
M
H
Hey
there,
thank
you,
commissioner
of
cher,
scharf
and
chair
parish
on
the
housing
side
for
having
this.
I've
got
a
number
of
comments
and
questions.
I
think
it's
probably
easier
to
answer
them
as
I
go
along.
Instead
of
read
you
the
litany
of
the
list,
my
first
one
is
just
I
was
taken
aback
in
the
interest
of
fairness.
I
think
it
would
be
important
to
read
some
of
the
other
letters
that
were
sent
on
time.
H
I
H
H
H
I
think
everyone's
been
trying
to
do
that
for
the
last
20
years,
and
we
really
don't
know
so
so
I
think
we
can
guess,
but
at
least
the
pipeline
projects
seem
more
valuable
and
we're
very
lucky
and
fortunate
to
be
able
to
have
those
in
place
to
help
us
get
to
some
of
the
numbers
and-
and
I
think
that's
that's
good.
I
am
appreciative
that
staff
has
stepped
up
to
address
some
of
the
issues
we've
had
in
terms
of
getting
information
organized
in
the
right
way
reaching
out
to
the
right
people.
H
H
It
just
creates
an
opening
for
making
housing
less
affordable
by
actually
making
property
more
valuable,
to
be
able
to
actually
increase
the
cost
of
housing
per
square
foot
which
is
what's
been
going
on,
but
it's
something
I
think
we
should
consider
for
gpa,
at
least
in
the
next
cycle.
It's
definitely
a
valid
point.
H
The
history
of
leadership
in
cupertino
has
been
a
west
versus
east
issue
where
everything's
been
dumped
on
the
east,
and
I
think
it's
been
apparent
in
terms
of
how
decisions
were
made,
and
I
think
that's
the
equity
issue
that
eastside
people
are
saying
about
the
west
side
in
terms
of
amenities.
It
is
nice
that
we,
we
are
high
resourced
as
people
look
at
that.
But
let
me
give
an
example
of
that,
and
this
is
my
first
question
that
I'd
like
to
answer
right
away.
H
Did
we
reach
out
to
pizza
hut
and
the
fontana
sites?
I
mean
these
are
heart
of
the
city
crossroads
and
central
I
mean
we
should
have
some
units
there
at
least
so.
Do
we
at
least
make
the
attempt
to
say
they're,
pretty
big
pieces
that
could
be
pieced
and
parceled
together
for
development?
Should
we
should
we
want
to
go?
Do
that?
So,
let's
start
there.
What's
up
with
pizza
hut
and
fontana.
T
H
H
Just
roughly
I
mean
you
can
ballpark
it.
I
won't
hold
you
to
it
right.
They
can
build
underground
parking
if
they
need
to,
they
could
build
up.
They
could
do
mixed
retail.
This
would
address
some
of
the
fairness
and
equity
on
the
west
side.
I
would
make
a
suggestion
that
we,
you
know,
add
that
back
to
the
list,
even
though
we're
adding
people
to
lists
where
we're
not
contacting,
we
could
try
to
reach
them
again
and
have
that
conversation.
H
H
We
have
via
right
this
heavily
subsidized
shuttle
system.
I
don't
know
why
we
do
it,
but
I
understand
the
economics
of
it.
Along
with
the
regional
apple
transit
system
and
vta
does
the
hcd
I
mean-
and
we
asked
this
earlier,
but
do
they
care
about
this
dispersion
equitably,
and
I
know
the
answer
was:
no,
they
really
don't
care.
H
Do
we
know
that
for
sure,
and
that's
really
why
I
just
want
to
ask,
because
you
know
we're
we're
not
resourcing
equally
across
the
city
and-
and
I
think
you
know
hopefully
someone's
listening-
maybe
that's
something
we
should
look
at,
but
we've
got
this
in
place.
What's
the
answer
from
from
our
experts
right,
we
we
hired
consultants
to
to
tell
us
these
things
in
your
experience
as
consultants
in
all
the
projects
you
have
done
before.
What
does
hcd
say?
O
So
I
want
to
be
careful
about
the
word
equity.
It
can
be
used
in
many
different
ways
and
as
far
as
our
experience
and
our
understanding
and
our
research
with
others
experience
for
a
city
that
is
entirely
a
high
resource
area,
the
most
important
thing
is
that
we
don't
group
all
of
our
affordable
housing
within,
say
one
quadrant
of
the
city.
O
So
as
long
as
it's
got
some
amount
of
dispersion
throughout
the
city,
what
we've
done
here,
though,
is
we've.
We've
begun
from
the
ground
up.
We've
started
with
all
the
sites
that
we
could
find
that
were
between
a
half
acre
and
10
acres,
because
that's
the
low
threshold
for
what
may
be
considered
as
a
reasonable
site
for
development
of
housing
through
hcd
through
their
memo.
O
O
That
was
nearly
400
sites,
and
we
heard
loud
and
clear
the
priority
to
equally
consider
sites,
both
east
and
west,
within
the
city
of
cupertino
and
any
site
in
in
the
west
that
we
thought
was
possibly
reasonable.
We
have
elevated
and
brought
through
brought
forward
in
our
tier
one
site
in
our
tier
one
list.
O
We
also
have
sites
that
are,
that
would
absolutely
be
considered
reasonable,
but
if
they
were
on
the
east,
some
of
them
have
now
been
incorporated
in
the
tier
two
site,
really
primarily
for
this
greater
perceived
equation
between
the
east
and
west.
So
we
are
using
all
of
our
resources
to
discover
any
site
on
the
west
that
could
be
included
and
we've
we've.
O
We've
brought
you
our
strongest
recommendation
among
a
large
team
of
consultants
and
also
staff
recommendations.
So
this
is
this
is
our
list
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
you
through
it,
for
both
tier
one
and
tier
two.
We've
also
made
it
available
within
our
mapping
program
for
anyone
who
has
additional
sites
that
they
want
us
to
maybe
look
at
again
or
or
look
at
anew
and
we're
happy
to
do
that
as
we
hopefully
bring
this
to
council
with
our
next
steps.
H
O
H
Sounds
good,
we
probably
should
talk
to
her
and
have
her
here
in
the
future.
I
wish
we
can
request
that.
My
next
question.
Thank
you
for
your
answer.
My
next
question
is
south
de
anza
is
an
interesting
area
to
develop.
It
might
actually
balance
out.
What's
going
on
with
the
de
anza
urban
village
on
the
east
side,
which
is
also
developing
with
massively
zero
setbacks,
massively
zero
is
still
zero.
H
L
H
L
So
that's
several
miles
west,
but
when
we
have
that,
that's
something
we're
eagerly
waiting
to
see
what
san
jose
is
doing
for
its
housing
element
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
street
from
us,
but
we're
showing
30
dwelling
units
per
acre,
which
I
would
say,
results
in
something
like
four
to
five
story.
Building
tops
at
that
density.
H
Thank
you
for
that
yeah.
I
think
they're
going
to
move
beyond
30du.
This
is
kind
of
what
it
looks
like
related
to
that
on
the
south
side,
I'm
looking
at
the
the
list
as
well.
The
new
senior
development
on
south,
the
endzone
yamagamis,
is
also
not
very
walkable
or
bikeable
and
with
zero
setbacks,
no
class
four
bike
lanes
or
street
trees.
H
H
T
I
can
try
to
help
answer
that
so
when
that
development
was
proposed
by
san
jose,
I
know
that
I
personally
had
written
a
letter
on
behalf
of
our
city
to
for
them
to
consider
all
of
that.
However,
that
development
is
at
a
zero
setback
and
they
actually
only
have
about
20
feet
from
their
rear
neighbors.
There
are
some
homes
back
there
as
well.
T
With
regard
to
what's
on
south
deanza.
Currently,
I
believe
there
is
a
requirement
to
have
a
landscape
easement
along
south
danza
boulevard
with
trees
etc.
However,
with
the
increased
density,
that
is
certainly
something
that
you
know
we'll
have
to
consider,
reconsider
or
or
look
at
again
to
make
sure
that
that
kind
of
development
can
continue
to
occur
with
that
landscape,
easement
or
at
least
adjust
heights
to
make
sure
that
it
can
be
accommodated.
T
You
know
the
kind
of
density
that
we're
anticipating
can
be
accommodated
over
there
with
that
said,
of
course,
you
know.
State
density,
bonus
law
of
course
puts
everything
in
for
a
toss.
You
know,
but
in
terms
of
a
regular,
you
know
development
that
is
not
using
state
density.
Bonus
law,
you
know
we
can.
We
can
is.
T
H
T
T
Rents
30
are
at
low
income
rents,
30
percent
are
moderate,
income,
rents
and
10
are
at
above
moderate,
increments,
and
so
based
on
that
data,
I
believe
there
was
a
memo
that
was
written
by
these
consultants
to
hcd
and
there
I
believe,
they're
waiting
for
final
guidance
from
hcd
on
the
matter.
But
at
this
point
I
believe
that
they've
been
verbally
told
that
this
is
seems
okay
to
use,
which
is
why
that
is
what
is
reflected
in
the
data
that
we
indicated
on
the
spreadsheet
andy.
H
H
I
felt
that
very
unfair
and
I
hope
we
can
add
the
conversation
point
about
having
staff
potentially
suggesting
to
staff,
since
we
can't
direct
staff
but
suggesting
the
staff
reach
out
again
to
the
folks
at
pizza
hut
in
fontana,
if
you're
paying
attention,
that's
a
wonderful
site
to
do
mixed
use,
especially
part
of
the
city,
and
it
would
help
with
the
density,
we'll
use
that
term
loosely
andy
equity
on
that
end
of
the
side.
So
thank.
A
You
very
much
all
right.
Thank
you,
chair,
wong,
yeah,
that's
a
good
point.
If
we
were
not
able
to
reach
buyer
properties,
that
seems
odd
that
we
could
not
at
least
get
them
to
say
hey.
You
know
we
have
no
interest
in
this.
I
mean
how
hard
is
it
to
actually
get?
I
mean
we
know
where
their
office
is.
You
know
we
could,
even
you
know,
just
go
in
there
and
ask
them
anyway.
So
I
had
a
couple
of
questions.
Everyone
else
is
gone.
A
A
You
know
when
you
have
a
site
with
a
thousand
units
in
a
site
with
10
units
the
site
may
be,
it
may
be
the
same
number
of
sites,
but
it's
certainly
not
the
same
number
of
units
and
with
so
many
pipeline
sites
on
the
east
side.
It's
not
all.
It's
also
not
relevant
just
to
compare
only
the
non-pipeline
sites.
A
You
know
we
want
to
get
some
balance
back
between
the
east
and
the
west
since
there's
such
a
massive
quantity
of
units
going
in
on
the
east
side,
and
then
jennifer
griffin
mentioned
that
in
some
other
cities,
sites
are
being
included
in
a
housing
element,
even
when
there
has
been
no
interest
expressed
by
the
property
owner,
and
I
guess
there
was
one
side
where
we
did
that
that
peggy
griffin
mentioned,
but
are
we
allowed,
I
mean?
Could
we
do
some
of
the
sites
on
imperial
and
bub
and
say
hey?
A
We
think
this
is
a
good
site
for
housing,
even
though
the
property
owner
has
never
expressed
an
interest.
I
mean
I
I
can't
imagine.
Cities
are
getting
away
with
that.
I
mean
if
I
was
hcd,
I
would
you
know
say:
hey
that's
nice,
that
you
want
housing
there,
but
you
know
we're
not
gonna,
consider
those
sites
and,
let's
see
what
was
the
other
question
I
had.
Oh,
this
was
from
conversation
with
city
in
southern
california.
A
You
know
it's
not
really
reasonable
unless
to
say:
oh
they're,
not
building,
unless
they
said
they're,
not
building,
you
know,
there's
you
know
for
the
hamptons,
they
have
said
they're,
not
building
right
away,
but
they,
you
know,
have
also
said
you
know
they
plan
to
build
in
the
future.
So
hopefully
the
hamptons
will,
you
know,
be
accepted
as
a
pipeline
site
based.
You
know,
just
on
what
irvine
has
said
and
not
said.
A
Less
dense,
that
is
supposed
to
be
less
dense
than
sorry
the
west
side
supposed
to
be
less
dense
than
the
east
side.
Well,
that
might
have
been
nice
in
the
1970s
and
it's
hard
to
believe,
but
it's
52
years,
past
1970
and
we
have
a
lot.
Things
have
changed
a
lot
and
you
know
I
don't
think
it's
reasonable
to
keep
that
going
for
you
know
forever,
considering
hcd's
demands
for
more
and
more
housing
in
the
city.
A
So
those
were
just
comments
except
the
question
I
mean
what
is
the
situation
with
including
sites
in
your
housing
element
where
the
owner
has
expressed
no
interest
and
luke
or
andy?
You
could
answer
that.
I
mean
it
appears.
Other
cities
are
doing
it.
We
did
a
little
bit,
but
how
does
hcd
feel
about
that?.
L
I
always
thought
those
sites
made
sense
because
they're
underutilized
on
a
major
corridor,
so
I
think
you
can
make
a
strong
case
for
sites
like
that
redeveloping.
I
can
also
look
in
the
last
decade.
A
lot
of
similar
properties
on
the
west
side
of
santa
clara
county
sunnyvale
had
a
summer
winds
nursery
it's
gone.
There
was
a
summer
winds
nursery
on
almond,
den
expressway
in
san
jose.
It's
been
redeveloped.
L
L
Similarly
on
on
bub
avenue,
I
would
certainly
defer
to
pugh
she's
got
more
familiarity
with
the
property.
I
I
could
see
why
you
want
to
include
those
because
of
their
location,
they're
also
right,
near
monte,
vista
high
school,
but
there's
there's,
I
think
the
risk
of
having
them
go
to
hcd
if
there
are
long-term
leases
and
no
indication
that
they're
going
to
redevelop
in
the
eight
years.
Hcd
could
just
say
we
don't
see
these
as
viable
and
I
think
that's
our
concern,
but
I
certainly
understand
why
you
would
look
at
those
sites.
L
A
L
Q
L
A
Okay
and
the
other
statement
I
had
to
say
you
know,
you
know:
we've
heard
about
minimizing
displacement,
but
I'm
thinking
of
sites.
You
know
where
the
owner,
maybe
there's
you
know,
100
units
there
now
and
the
owner
wants
to
put
in
you
know
300
or
400
units.
Well,
yes,
there'd
be
some
displacement
for
a
few
years,
while
the
sites
redeveloped.
T
T
Into
garden
gate,
it
is
on
valley,
green,
yes,
it
feeds
into
garden
gate
and
lawson.
I
believe,
but
in
terms
of
you
know,
part
of
the
reason
why
it
was
also
taken
off
was
because
we
felt
like
there
were
enough
tier
one
sites
that
were
identified
where
there
was
other
interests
that
we
didn't
need
those
sites
and
that's
why
they
were
removed
in
terms
of
displacement.
T
You
know
that
is
something
that
we
could
potentially
address
with
policies
on
the
housing
policy
side
for
how
to
address
that
displacement,
whether
that's
a
first
right
of
you
know,
purchase
or
you
know
things
like
that.
I
mean
there's
a
lot
of
policies
out
there
regarding
displacement.
I
know
mountain
views
were
working
on
a
displacement
strategy
as
well.
So
if
those
are
the
kinds
of
things
that
we
could
put
in
place,
yes,
we
could
potentially
select.
T
A
What
they're
going
to
take
yeah
yeah?
I
know
we'll
get
to
that
soon,
but
yeah
I
mean
my
feeling
is
yes
displacements,
but
bad,
but
if
we're
gaining,
if
we're
gaining
a
lot
of
units
by
you
know,
of
course,
there's
going
to
be
tear
down
rebuilds.
So
I
I
think
it's
an
acceptable
compromise
to
include
sites
like
that.
If,
if
you're
gaining
a
significant
number
of
units
by
tearing
down
an
old,
complex,
rebuilding,
okay,
you
know
it's
already
9
15.,
I'm
going
to
give
there's
five
people
with
their
hands
up.
N
N
So
I
just
want
to
emphasize
that
I
don't
really
agree
with
the
idea
that
it's
okay
to
have
some
to
place
displacement
because
displacing
it.
It's
rid
of
whatever
the
current
environment
for
financing
and
stuff
is
now
and
replaces
it
with
a
more
expensive
one.
So
it's
just
yeah.
I
want
to
go
on
record
that
I
think
we
should
play
more
than
just
lip
service
to
keeping
displacement
as
close
to
zero
as
possible.
Thank
you.
G
G
The
last
comment
that
I
wanted
to
make
was
a
question
that
I'd
put
to
the
consultants
was
how
many
parking
you
unit,
how
many
parking
spaces
are
you
guys
allotting
per
unit?
That
was
never
answered.
So
if
you
can
give
me
a
direct
answer,
is
it
one
one
parking
for
three
units
or
is
it
one
per
unit?
I
would
appreciate
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
G
T
T
Two
things
I
did
want
to
report
some
happy
news.
We
just
literally
got
confirmation
about
three
minutes
ago
from
the
owners
of
yamagami's,
the
yamagamis
that
they're
interested
in
developing.
We
don't
know
exactly
at
what
density,
but
I
just
got
an
email,
so
I
didn't
want
to
report
on
that
and
secondly,
with
regard
to
parking,
we
have
parking
standards
in
the
parking
ordinance
if
it
is
a
town
home.
My
understanding
is
2.8
spaces
per
unit,
which
is
of
two
of
which
has
been
closed.
T
A
C
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
on
the
christian,
far
left
and
actually
in
the
when
I
showed
the
spreadsheet.
Actually
one
of
the
things
you
cannot
clarify
from
luke
was
the
number
of
units
for
the
tier
one
allocated
was
only
eight
point.
Eight
eight
point:
five.
Basically
a
per
acre
for
christian
parliament,
and
still
there
are
two
properties.
Tier
two
properties
are
there
which
are
listed
over
there.
C
C
Where
the
lot
of
tier
2
properties
are
mentioned,
but
they
are
not,
it
also
could
fall
into
saudia,
where
total
acreage
in
tier
2
is
2.92,
which
basically,
some
of
that
could
be
part
of
the
west
or
whatever,
and
it
can
add
some
density
to
that
side
of
the
matrix.
So
wherever
that
is
possible
to
add
density,
why
not
convert
the
tier
2
to
the
t1?
T
I
can
try
to
answer
a
little
bit.
The
hillcrest
roadsides
are
actually
fairly
steep
at
the
end
of
hillcrest
road.
This,
the
steepness
of
the
site,
is
close
to
20
percent,
so
it
is
unlikely
that
development
could
occur
at
in
those
locations
at
a
much
higher
density
than
what
is
indicated
on
the
in
the
site
inventory.
At
this
point,
so
I
did
want
to
put
that
out.
T
T
Didn't
want
sorry
chair
sheriff
just
one
other
question
and
one
other
response
with
regard
to
the
low
density
within
the
neighborhoods,
whether
it's
the
west
side,
the
east
side,
any
other
side.
It
is
based
the
the
recommendations
from
staff
are
based
on
what
is
surrounding
the
the
that
particular
site.
Of
course,
if
the
planning
commission
wishes
to
increase
the
density
it
may,
but
with
the
with
the
reasonable
expectation
that
it
is
going
to
develop
at
that
particular
density,
this
is
based
on.
T
C
T
A
M
My
my
main
thing
is
related
to
equity.
I
think
I
would
like
to
make
sure
that
we,
when
we
are
doing
side
by
side
going
to
via
side
by
side,
we
consider
both
the
tier
1
tier
2
sites
on
the
west
side,
because
I
think
we
need
to
fix
this
east-west
imbalance,
and
this
is
the
only
opportunity
we
have.
We
don't
have
any
other
opportunity,
otherwise
we'll
have
the
same
kind
of
struggle
at
the
council
level.
The
second
thing
which
I
wanted
to
bring
out
is
that
you
know
I.
M
I
definitely
feel
that
if
there's
a
density
collection
which
is
required,
it
should
be
done.
So
I
would
suggest
that,
since
it
is
not
just
that
we
are
going
to
touch
the
housing
element,
only
we
are
going
to
make
general
plan
changes.
I
would
say
that
we
need
to
add
new
language
to
actually
do
away
with
the
urban
rural
divide.
That
language
needs
to
go
away.
M
It
should
be
going
away
the
other,
the
language
that
go
away
is
the
neighborhood
special
areas
divide,
except
that
wherever
there
is
a
density
entitlement,
we
would
allow
the
density
entitlement,
but
we'll
not
use
that,
as
a
you
know,
use
that
language
to
actually
push
development
in
some
places.
So
I
think
I
would
like
to
see
if
that
can
also
be
included
as
part
of
the
resolution
today,
because
I
think
that
will
help
a
lot
in
terms
of
gaining
confidence
both
for
the
for
us,
as
well
as
for
the
publish.