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Coverage of the February 21, 2023 Cupertino City Council Meeting.
Part 1 of 2.
A
C
A
D
Thank
you,
mayor
Wade
I'm,
going
to
turn
the
staff
report
to
Capital
Improvement
project
manager,
Susan
Michael.
E
Good
evening,
Council
mayor
vice
mayor,
thank
you
for
having
us
tonight
we're
here
to
hear
the
item
concerning
City
Hall
project
renovation
project.
The
recommended
action
is
that
the
staff
requests
city
council
reaffirmed
the
direction
previously
provided
for
the
city
hall
renovation
project,
I'm,
going
to
read
an
excerpt
from
the
staff
report
and
there's
no
presentation
otherwise.
For
now
so
on,
January
17th
Council
requested
a
future
agenda
item
to
reconsider
the
November
15th
Council
Direction
on
the
city
hall
CIP
project.
E
That
direction
was
to
direct
staff
to
include
the
city
hall
renovation,
including
full
seismic
retrofoot
MEP,
it
interior,
finishes
and
layout
complete
refurbishment
at
the
level
of
California
building
code,
structural
risk,
category
4
for
approximately
27
and
a
half
million
dollars,
as
we
were
meant
to
include
that
as
part
of
the
fiscal
year.
2023
2024
proposal
for
CIP
council
is
aware
that
this
direction
followed
the
recommendation
from
the
city
hall
project
subcommittee
that
was
created
in
July,
2022
and
included
council
members,
Moore
and
Willie.
E
What
we've
learned
since
then
and
since
five
different
analysis
reports
have
been
done
that
reached
the
same
conclusion
is
that
the
building
needs
to
be
seismically
retrofit
and
the
HVAC
and
other
infrastructural
systems
are
well
past,
their
useful
life
and
they
need
to
be
renovated
to
date.
Since
2015
there
have
been
numerous
options
reviewed
and
analyzed.
The
subcommittee
considered
one
a
seismic
upgrade
to
the
existing
building
two
renovations
to
the
existing
building,
three
replacement
of
the
existing
building,
otherwise,
a
new
building
and
replacement
of
other
elements
that
support
ongoing
City
operations.
E
As
you
know,
the
subcommittee
recommended
that
the
CIP
included
a
new
project
for
the
city
hall
building,
that
is,
a
full
interior
renovation
of
the
existing
building
and
renovation
of
the
exterior,
to
the
degree
that
it
supports
seismic
and
Energy
Efficiency
upgrades
so
on.
November
15,
2022
Council
directed
staff,
as
mentioned
to
proceed
with
that
project
for
approximately
27.5
million
dollars,
and
we
are
here
to
ask
you
to
confirm
that
direction.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
Susan.
Now
we
are
going
to
for
Council
questions
you
each
have
I
believe
five
minutes.
Thank
you.
A
Do
we
have
Council
would
like
to
ask
questions
if
now
we
can
go
to
public
comment,
seeing
none,
let's
go
to
oh
councilmember
Moore.
F
Thank
you
and
thank
you
Susan
for
the
for
the
report
and
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that
went
into
the
city
hall
subcommittee.
We
had
a
really
thorough
discussion.
I
had
turned
in
written
Communications
for
this
item,
which
I,
which
I
don't
see
in
the
packet
and
I've,
just
resent
them
to
the
clerk.
So
the
recommendation
from
meeting
five,
which
was
October
21st
2022,
was
the
recommendation
from
staff.
F
Discussions
for
fiscal
year,
23
and
24
consider
hiring
Consultants
to
develop
the
schedule
and
requirements
for
City
Hall,
and
there
were
other
considerations
in
that
report,
and
one
was
the
cdtfa
audit,
the
potential
for
substantial
short
and
long-term
impacts.
Have
we
gotten
the
results
of
the
cdtfa
audit
to
know
if
that
is
still
impacting
this
project?
F
So
pardon
through
them
through
the
mayor
so
is
anything
changed
for
the
other
considerations
portion
of
the
report
that
was
given
to
the
subcommittee.
D
I,
don't
believe
that
was
part
of
the
research
for
this
item,
so
we
don't
have
any
further
investigational
analysis
for
that.
A
C
Council
member
ciao-
please
thank
you.
Actually.
I
did
request
a
financial
situation
to
be
considered
together
with
this
item,
but
the
staff
didn't
think
that's
relevant,
although
I
my
question
is
2015
Council
decision
is
that
Council
later
dropped
the
city
hall
project
because
they
couldn't
get
the
cost
down
to
40
million
dollars
from
the
estimated
the
70
million
dollar
at
the
time.
But
the
council
I
think
had
the
option
of
just
doing
renovation,
but
then
they
choose
to
only
do
new
city
hall,
which
was
why
the
course
couldn't
come
down.
E
C
And
then,
even
when
the
council
asked
the
staff
to
consider
opportunity
to
bring
down
the
cost,
they
did
not
consider
renovation,
and
my
next
question
is
I-
am
actually
surprised.
I
didn't
know
about
the
City
Hall
budget
amendment
that
was
approved
by
2018
Council
on
October
16th.
On
that
same
agenda.
C
There
is
also
budget
amendment
for
Performing
Arts
Center,
so
those
two
were
I
think
were
after
the
council
approved
the
vocal
specific
plan
which
included
a
shell
of
City
Hall
and
the
shell
of
Performing
Arts
Center
I
asked
the
staff,
but
couldn't
you
didn't
really
address?
The
question?
Was
that
City
Hall
budget
amendment
for
the
show
that
actually
is
located
on
vocal
site
I.
E
Sorry,
through
the
main
I
can't
confirm
the
history.
I
know
that
there
have
been
various
levels
of
funding
that
been
allocated
to
the
City
Hall
project
and
some
of
it
has
been
defunded
over
the
years.
Presently
we
are
carrying
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
feasibility
of
City
Hall
and
another
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
interim,
City,
Hall
and
other
other
things
have
been
defunded
at.
D
This
point
so
mayor
wave
I,
can
clarify
so
staff
has
focusing
the
staff
report
for
this
item
to
ask
Council
to
confirm
your
decision
from
last
November.
We
did
not
spend
too
much
time
doing
research
on
what
happened
in
2015
or
2018.
I
understand
the
question
came
to
us
yesterday
and
we
did
the
best
we
can
to
provide
the
answer
to
your
questions.
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
I,
let's
go
to
public
comment
right
now,
but
I
see
the
clear
to
have
anybody
here.
Yes,
sorry,
council,
member
I
I
still
need
to
get
to
use
this.
G
So
I
I
note
in
the
the
budget
at
a
glance
that
City
staffing
has
grown
by
about
40
full-time
equivalents
in
the
course
of
the
period
from
2011.
Until
the
present
do
you
have
a
forecast,
anyone
on
staff
as
to
how
much
we
expect
Staffing
to
grow
in
the
next
10
to
15
years?
Sure.
D
I'll
take
that
through
to
Mayor,
we
don't
and
that's
going
to
be
part
of
the
analysis
to
evaluate
as
part
of
the
renovation,
especially
if
you
would
a
knowledge
that
we're
coming
out
of
covet
post-pandemic
Staffing
for
a
city
hall
and
also
other
facility
and
make
change,
given
that
we
do
allow
alternative
work
schedule
and
telework.
So
the
actual
need
for
having
enough
square
footage
will
have
to
be
reevaluated.
A
F
F
I
included
all
of
the
reports
that
were
given
to
the
subcommittee
in
the
written
Communications
for
this
item
because
I,
you
know
I
feel
as
though
we're
in
some
ways
retracing
the
steps
which
the
subcommittee
went
through
at
this
time,
and
there
were
well
over
150
slides
that
we
we
reviewed
in
the
presentations,
including
the
the
seismic
design
and
what
had
happened
over
the
years
and
I,
don't
know
if,
if
Susan
would
like
to
go
over
that,
but
essentially
the
you
know,
the
structure
was
built
in
1965
and
we'll
fast
forward
to
1986
time
frame
8687
when
they
did
the
seismic
upgrade.
F
A
F
The
question
is
with
regards
to
Staffing
and
the
the
city
manager
might
not
be
aware
that
those
calculations
were
actually
done
and
presented
to
the
subcommittee
so
I'm,
hoping
that
staff
will
provide
them
to
for
some
clarification.
Thank
you.
D
So
council,
member
Moore
I
was
aware
of
the
Staffing
allocation
that
was
provided
to
the
subcommittee
and
I
also
understand
that
that
was
fluid
at
the
time
so
with
the
staff
coming
back
post
covet.
Now
that
the
governor
has
released
the
Declaration
for
emergency
with
the
new
city
hall
or
the
new
renovation
project,
where
we'll
have
to
evaluate
the
staffing
needs,
as
you
mentioned,
there
has
been
some
renovation
going
on
within
City
Hall.
We're
also
allocating
a
new
Council
offices
for
your
use,
so
there
will
definitely
be
some
changes
to
the
layout.
D
We're
also
proceeding
with
the
Tory
Avenue
renovation.
So
much
of
that
has
been
going
if
Susan's
available
to
bring
that
slide
up,
go
for
it,
but
again,
I
I
am
aware
of
that
Staffing
projection
and
it's
a
very
high
level,
Elementary
kind
of
a
projection.
Regardless
what
decision
Council
decides
to
go
tonight?
We
will
have
to
revisit
that
issue
regardless.
F
Through
the
mayor,
I'm
wondering
how
many
offices
are
also
available
over
at
the
public
works
yard
and
if
there
is
some
duplication
with
regards
to
some
members
of
Public
Works
having
offices
at
that
location
and
what
reconfiguration
could
happen
there
as
well.
Thank
you.
I.
D
E
So
if
the
video
team
can
share
my
screen,
I
can
I
think
well.
I
haven't,
but
I
can
also
say
that
the
service
yard
right
now
is
service
center.
That
is
a
project.
Many
years
ago
we
looked
at
completely
tearing
that
down
and
starting
over
it
is
well.
It's
not
very
well
laid
out.
It's
not
very
well
used.
There
are
no
people
that
I'm
aware
of
that
have
offices
or
desks
at
both
locations.
There's
not
a
duplication.
There.
A
B
Yes
mayor,
we
have
one
police
figure
card
in-house
and
we
have
three
hands
raised
in
Zoom
and
I
would
just
note
that
per
the
new
city
council
procedures.
B
H
Good
evening
mayor
wave
vice
mayor,
Moen,
council
members
and
city
manager,
we
should
definitely
be
looking
to
build
a
city
hall
and
Civic
Center
that
meets
our
needs
for
the
next
50
years.
H
A
simple
renovation
would
respect
the
safety
from
earthquake
for
people
who
use
the
building,
especially
staff,
who
are
here
every
day,
yes
and
Commissioners,
who
will
be
required
to
meet
in
person.
However,
it
would
not
resolve
many
other
issues
for
a
building
that
is
60
years
old,
built
to
serve
a
smaller
City
in
1963,
with
thousands
fewer
residents
we
are
literally
bulging
at
the
seams
needs
include
more
workspace,
more
meeting
space,
more
natural
lighting,
Ada
accessibility
and
an
HVAC
system
that
works
I
encourage
the
city
to
revisit
the
2022
meetings.
Meeting
space
decision.
H
Excuse
me
I
skipped
and
choose
a
long-term
investment
rather
than
a
short-term
repair,
as
this
new
city
hall
is
considered,
I
also
urge
you
to
think
about
adding
native
trees
and
plants
on
the
properties
surrounding
the
city
hall.
This
will
provide
an
example
for
all
residents
about
climate
change
and
how
each
of
us
can
be
a
part
of
the
solution
Solutions
such
as
actions
on
our
own
properties,
in
keeping
with
ideas
from
cupertino's
climate
action
plan
2.0.
Thank
you
for
this
time
to
speak.
I
Hello,
thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
speak
to
you
this
evening,
so
my
name
is
Gary
latshaw
I'm
a
resident
at
Cupertino
I,
am
also
the
primary
author
of
the
letter
that
Sierra
Club
sent
with
regard
to
the
first
presentation
and
I
won't
say
the
first,
the
presentation
November
there
was
no
discussion
of
issues
having
to
do
with
climate
change,
no
discussion
of
conserving
from
the
standpoint
of
life
cycle
analysis
of
climate.
I
Moreover,
just
from
a
cost
perspective,
there
was
no
consideration
of
a
life
cycle
cost
of
what
a
new
building
versus
a
renovated
building
is
such
cost
analysis
will
be
difficult
to
make
because
the
climate
will
change.
I
It
will
probably
approach
the
temperature
profiles
during
the
summer
of
Phoenix,
Phoenix
may
become
unoccupiable,
and
so
I
really
encouraged
the
council
to
have
perhaps
somebody
more
expertise
in
modern
designs
that
taken
this
into
account,
taking
advantage
of
Sun
Life
or
heating,
the
cooling
that
happens
naturally
in
the
area
due
to
the
Marine
layer,
and
perhaps
they
use
the
solar
panels.
I
Etc
I
was
very
disappointed
in
the
first
presentation
in
November.
I'll
show
you
the
first,
but
also
very
disappointed,
as
I
have
given
public
presentations
before
actually
for
their
resources
board,
and
invariably
they
answer.
In
writing.
I
I
So
thank
you
for
your
time
and
I
really
encourage
to
have
somebody
with
a
broader
expertise
than
it.
B
J
Good
evening,
city,
council
and
staff
I
had
a
prepared
speech,
but
what
I
really
want
to
tell
you
is
when,
when
people
go
to
buy
a
house,
they
first
figure
out
how
much
they
can
afford
and
I'm.
Not
seeing
this,
there
were
several
council
members
bringing
up
questions
about
financing
and
that
wasn't
looked
at
the
last
City
Hall,
the
brand
new
one
was
so
over
the
top.
J
It
that's
why
it
didn't
pass.
It
was
too
much
money,
first
figure
out
how
much
you
can
afford
before
you
even
think
about
what's
stable
right
now
we
are
in
a
recession.
The
city
may
lose
half
the
sales
tax.
It
currently
receives
costs.
Both
taxes,
fees,
food,
fuel,
Etc,
are
increasing,
and
residents
can't
afford
to
pay
additional
costs
so
adding
something
to
the
residence.
J
J
We
want
something
that
is
usable
that
is
safe
for
the
employees
and
the
visitors,
and
that
does
the
job
and
right
now
that
2015
Civic
Center
analysis
is
eight
years
old.
It's
outdated
right
now,
parking
there's
not
as
many
employees
coming
in
we
use
teleconferencing
life
has
changed
significantly
since
the
pandemic
and
I
think
the
renovation
way
is
the
better
way
to
go
physically
responsible.
Thank
you.
K
K
K
It
makes
no
sense
to
spend
27.5
million
and
end
up
with
well
an
old
building.
It's
not
up
to
current
building
standards
and
remains
energy
inefficient.
Furthermore,
it
also
ignores
the
identifying
need
for
more
Library
parking.
Given
the
expected
increase
in
library
usage
with
the
library
expansion,
an
increase
in
population,
the
current
building
is
also
not
aligned
with
City
goals
on
sustainability.
You
know
we're
trying
to
see
ourselves
as
Leaders.
This
is
not
leading
I
urge
city
council
to
reject
the
cheap
option
and
the
cap
and
reopen
other
options
and
financing
Sunnyvale.
K
B
B
L
L
It
didn't
create
the
humongous
cost,
which
everyone
knows,
needs
to
be
reevaluated
at
this
time,
because
it's
not
going
to
be
near
the
70
million
from
before
it's
going
to
be
far
higher.
Where
does
that
money
come
from?
If
the
residents
aren't
allowed
to
vote
on
this,
it
seems
really
misguided
to
have
five
to
three
council
members
decide
that
that's
what's
going
to
happen
when
this
has
been
hashed
over
there's
been
a
well-qualified
subcommittee,
making
decisions
and
calculations
and
decisions
and
really
going
through
the
process.
L
L
Civic
Center
Which
is
far
include
many
of
the
things
that
sunnyvale's
doing
that
there's
more
money
going
to
be
spent
for
them.
To
finish,
why
I
mean
maybe
it's
just
the
stress-filled
push
your
kids
to
do
whatever
it
takes,
even
if
it
is
detrimental
to
them
and
a
family
to
maybe
it's
that
mentality,
but
that
mentality
really
needs
to
change.
We
have
no
reason
to
compete
with
Sunnyvale.
L
If
Sunnyvale
can
give
information,
that's
one
thing,
but
the
attitude
that
Cupertino
would
be
second
class
if
they
didn't
have
something
better
than
Sunnyvale
It's
ludicrous,
and
this
goes
for
anything
moving
forward.
Any
decision
moving
forward
and
I
would
stress
we
should
not.
We
cannot
depend
on
a
developer,
making
backdoor
deals
to
try
to
fund
something
that,
if
put
to
put
to
vote
many
people
or
most
people
may
not
want.
We
need
to
do
this
without
outside
influence.
L
Do
what's
right
for
us
in
the
best
possible
way,
and
that's
I,
guess
I'm
out
of
time.
Thank.
B
M
Good
evening,
I
hadn't
meant
to
come
down,
but
our
power
is
out
in
Rancho
in
Canada
and
it's
been
on
and
off
for
the
last
two
hours.
So
it
please
be
kind
to
people
who
may
be
having
to
try
to
come
in.
I
also
was
at
the
dentist
today.
I
have
to
have
a
tooth
pulled
tomorrow,
so
it
is
important
to
me
to
be
here
and
I'm
got
painkillers,
so
I'm
good
to
go
anyway.
M
You
know
what
I
have
sat
through
countless
hours
on
the
city
hall
renovation
I
mean
we're
going
back
to
2010.
and
we've
had
plans.
Then
we
had
a
developer
have
plans.
Then
we
had
another
plan
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
and
we
one
thing
is
for
sure
the
building
has
to
be
secured
for
earthquakes.
You
saw
what
happened
in
another
two
other
countries,
those
buildings
there's
a
very,
very
heavy
Spanish
tile
roof
on
the
building.
I
had
originally
thought
that
it
might
be
a
good
idea.
M
I
mentioned
this
probably
seven
years
ago
that
they
put
a
second
story,
in
my
mind,
is
over
build
so
that
you
have
room
in
the
years
to
come.
Cupertino
is
a
Powerhouse
nationally,
a
city
worldwide,
and
it
will
continue
to
grow.
You
don't
have
companies
like
apple
and
Steve
Jobs
and
not
become
the
face
of
the
world.
M
In
this
situation
we
need
to
have
our
staff
protected,
so
they're
not
going
to
have
problems
in
the
new
building,
I'm
very
happy
that
the
city
purchased
the
Annex
Building,
because
Cupertino
should
have
City
Halls
that
are
appropriate
to
what
we
are
I.
Think
Cupertino
is
the
center
Mark
of
the
entire
Silicon
Valley.
Yes,
I
actually
went
by
a
building
project.
Sunnyvale
has
today
when
we
were
going
to
the
dentist
on
El
Camino.
They
have
a
big
pile
of
debris,
that's
near
their
City,
Hall,
I
I.
M
Don't
know
what
to
tell
you
but
I'd
say
we
we're
gonna,
never
mind
what
our
governor
says:
we're
going
into
penny.
Pinching
time.
We
have
to
tighten
our
belts,
so
let's
stabilize
the
building,
make
sure
that
it's
safe.
We
had
a
lot
of
buildings
after
1989
earthquake,
Tech
buildings
that
were
secured.
There
was
a
brand
new
one
that
was
built
over
by
the
Apple
II
campus.
It
was
in
my
original
work
group.
It
was
brand
new
they
went
in
and
put
in
diagonal
bracing.
M
It
is
still
there
today
if
you
have
to
do
that
with
the
city
hall.
Do
it,
but
Cupertino
has
a
great
future
I,
don't
believe
in
developers
dictating
to
our
city
what
we
do,
etc,
etc.
That's
what
I
like
about
Apple
they
they
seem
to
like
Cupertino.
They
like
to
stay
here,
and
they
don't
dictate
what
we
do.
We
honor
them,
but
they
do
not
demand
things
from
us.
Thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
Mada
City
Kirk
I,
want
to
thank
all
the
public
comments.
Now,
let's
bring
it
back
to
Council
on
deliberation.
Does
anybody
want
to
make
emotion
in
a
second,
so
we
can
deliberate?
N
A
Okay,
do
we
have
a
second
for
it.
A
I'll,
second,
it
okay!
So
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second,
let's
open
for
discussion
for
five
minutes
for
each
council
member.
Please
do
we
have
okay,
vice
mayor
Mohan,.
O
The
only
thing
about
the
motion
that
council
member
fluent
proposed
was
the
I
saw
the
number
80
000
square
feet,
and-
and
my
comment
was
that
I
really
wanted
to
reconsider
everything
I
I'm,
not
sure
80
000
is
is,
is
the
most
relevant
number
we
can
find
at
this
point.
O
So
so
my
thinking
on
this
is,
let's
look
at
a
completely
new
city
hall,
with
keeping
the
same
things
that
we
talked
about
I.
Think
in
2015,
was
it
2015?
Yes,
where
the
guiding
principles
of
2015
still
apply
and
I
can
quickly
go
through
those
guiding
principles,
primarily
employee
safety,
making
the
city
hall
much
more
than
just
a
house,
housing
employees
or
city
staff,
making
it
a
showcase
for
our
community,
making
it
a
state-of-the-art
building
for
which
which
showcases,
sustainability
and
clean
energy
a
model
for
efficiency?
O
And
these
are
all
the
things
that
we
have
the
opportunity
to
incorporate
into
a
new
city
hall
at
this
time
and
and
so
I
would
like
a
a
complete
redesign
and
re-uh
yeah.
A
review
of
of
this
entire
project,
starting
from
the
ground
up,
but
primarily
employee
safety,
was
my
my
first
concern.
F
E
Through
the
mayor,
excuse
me:
the
existing
building
is
approximately
24
000
square
feet
that
includes
a
large
mechanical
space,
so
the
existing
the
Annex
Building
over
at
the
corner
of
Tori
and
Pacifica,
is
approximately
5
000
Square
footprint.
It's
got
a
small
little
room
upstairs.
F
Yeah,
okay,
thank
you
and
also
through
the
mayor.
One
of
the
things
that
this
the
subcommittee
made.
A
note
of
was
that
we
found
that
it
was
actually
and
please
correct
me
that
it
was
actually
less
expensive
to
purchase
another
building
to
purchase
a
property
than
to
add
on
to
the
structure
and
then
also
with
regards
to
that
we
had
looked
at
the
parking
situation
and
how
to
expand
parking.
F
What,
in
your
estimation,
just
ballpark
figure
would
an
80
000
square
foot,
City
Hall
and
Civic
Center
with
a
500
guests
required
for
parking.
What
would
you
envision
there,
because
I
know
that
there
was
an
original
suggestion
to
have
a
three-story
parking
garage
off
to
to
our
our
East?
So
if
you
had
some
idea
about
that,
I'd
like
to
hear
it
and
yeah
we'll
start
with
that.
E
Thank
you,
I'm,
not
very
good
about
doing
calculations
on
the
fly,
I
believe
in
the
previous
funding
information.
The
cost
estimates
that
we
did.
We
had
cost
per
square
foot
that
those
numbers
were
very
rough
and,
as
I
added
a
footnote
onto
the
written
Communications
that
we
sent
through
yesterday.
E
These
numbers
are
really
for
comparison
only,
but
there
are
cost
per
square
foot
numbers
in
there
that
we
used
and
I'm
sorry,
which
so
you're
trying
to
see
if
it
was
a
new
building,
we
said
is
approximately
nine
hundred
dollars
a
square
foot
times,
eighty
thousand
whatever.
That
would
be
rough
yeah.
Thank.
F
You
and
then
for
adding
500
a
500
seat
facility
at
this
location.
What
could
you
estimate
would
be
the
the
parking
requirements
for
for
that.
E
So
there's
a
number
of
ways
to
handle
parking,
as
you
know,
other
we
looked
at
all
the
ways
that
it's
been
talked
about
in
the
past:
there's
underground
parking,
there's
bus
service
parking,
but
there's
also
the
possibility
of
leasing
space
off-site
to
cover
parking
as
well,
and
that
would
have
to
be
part
of
the
agreement.
E
But
I
I
couldn't
begin.
I
mean
the
when
we
did
the
parking
calculations,
I
think
it
was
another
230
dollar
230
dollars
a
square
foot
and
I'd
have
to
figure
out
how
much
that
ends
up
to
be
so.
Yes,
the
numbers
are
getting
there,
so
I
would.
If
I
may
address
the
funding
topic,
that's
come
up
to
date.
We
are
coming
back
to
council
to
confirm
direction.
We
didn't
have
it's
a
questions
or
a
direction
to
look
into
anything
in
particular,
so
we
don't
have
answers
on
the
specifics
about
funding.
E
F
The
Ragnar
Creek
Trail
has
not
yet
opened,
and,
and
as
we
know,
that
was
a
pretty
controversial,
so
I
think
before
adding
a
large
parking
structure
which
this
would
require
would
even
should
even
be
on
the
table.
I
think
that
Community
should
definitely
be
noticed
about
this,
because
that's
going
to
cause
a
shadow,
shading
noise-
and
you
know
you
name
it
and
also
we're
we're
not
taking
into
consideration
that
Dan's
a
college
is
looking
for
feedback
right
now
for
their
new
Performing
Arts
replacement.
F
I
should
say
for
the
Flint
Center,
which
I
think
might
be
around
1500
seats,
so
I'm
not
really
sure
why
we
would
want
to
be
redundant
on
that
in
a
particularly
congested
area,
which
already
has
a
parking
problem.
So
I
would
like
to
make
a
substitute
motion
that
we
that
we
reaffirmed
the
direction
previously
provided
for
the
city
hall
renovation
project
because
of
its
it
is
fiscally
conservative.
It
is
updating,
HVAC
and
moving
to
a
seismic
tier
4
level,
and
so
these
and
with
regards
to
the
Energy
Efficiency.
F
C
I
I
will
take
it
after
I
will.
Second,
after
I
got
my
question
answered
for
the
proposed
motion.
Okay,.
A
C
Turn,
okay,
so
I
think
it's
important
to
understand
how
much
money
we
have
and
how
many
other
projects
the
city
still
have
to
pay
for
the
service
center
mentioned
that
it
needs
updating.
A
lot
of
community
centers
in
the
various
Parks
also
need
updating
the
sports
center
of
these
need
renovation
and
I.
Think
I
have
asked
the
staff
for
this
delayed.
There
are
delayed
maintenance.
These
these
totals
are
probably
100
to
100
million
dollars.
C
I
had
asked
for
this
to
always
be
presented
with
zip
projects,
so
we
know
how
many
we
need
to
pay
for
down
the
line
and
so
I
think
the
the
new
council
members
probably
do
not
have
good
Visions
for
Cupertino.
So
I
would
like
to
understand
from
the
the
council,
member
foreign
and
the
mayor,
hongway
and
and
Sheila
Mohan
council
member
Mohan.
What's
your
vision
for
Cupertino?
Why
do
you
see
we
need
to
earn
80
000
square
foot
of
Office
Space?
C
A
So
I'm
not
gonna,
I'm
gonna
ask
a
few
questions
on
the
staff.
I'm
gonna
take
my
five
minutes
here,
so
you
are
not
answering
like
sort
of
the
same
thing.
Okay,
so.
A
The
with
council
member
froons
recommendation
is
up
to
eighty
thousand
eighty
thousand
square
feet.
Does
that
give
staff
Clear
Directions?
It
could
have
a
few
options,
could
up
to
60
70
80,
or
does
that
give
us
flexibility
to
come
up
with
design
or
recommendations.
E
Thank
you,
since
we
are
in
process
right
now
developing
the
CIP
proposal.
It's
due
on
Friday
I.
We
can
put
a
placeholder
in
the
CIP
program.
We
do
not
have
the
time
or
resources
to
develop
anything
of
note
before
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year.
E
So
we
like
I,
said
we
could
put
a
placeholder
in
place
and
move
forward.
We
can
continue
that
discussion
when
we
come
back
with
the.
A
Ceo,
okay,
yeah,
so
I
I
see
the
for
both
the
emotion
has
some
flexibility
in
there.
So
it's
up
to
eighty
thousand,
it
doesn't
mean
it
has
to
be
80..
That's
my
first
question.
My
second
question
is
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
questions
on
financing,
but
this
is
just
to
put
a
a
study
on
CIP.
The
financing
part
will
have
to
come
later,
with
research
and
and
reports.
Is
that
how
the
staff
envisioned
this.
E
I
believe
that,
there's
more
than
one
part
to
this.
A
E
The
CIP
part,
which
is
here's
their
project,
go
build
it,
but
there's
also
the
funding
and
the
real
estate
questions
that
what
makes
sense
where's
the.
What
are
the
projection
growths?
What's
supportable,
what's
efficient,
so
what
might
be
a
good
next
step
is
to
hire
Consultants,
who
have
that
market
and
real
estate
expertise,
as
well
as
perhaps
architects
who
can
give
designs
that
meet
that
expertise.
So
I
can
see.
That
would
be
what
the
next
year
might
take
up,
but
yeah.
A
Thank
you
so
that
what
analysis
will
come
later
right
now
to
answer
councilmember
child's
question.
I
do
believe
we
need
to
have
more
options.
I
understand
you
know,
I
went
through
the
the
process
and
I
I
learned
everything.
I
know
what
we
did
before
so
I
do
believe
that
there
are
a
few
things
we
need
to
consider.
You
know
the
asset
value
analysis
on
renovation
and
new
building.
There
is
a
difference
on
what,
whether
we
do
a
renovation
or
a
new
building
and
the
long-term
return
on
that
renovation
and
new
building.
A
These
are
all
things
we
need
to
consider
how
about
the
lead,
standard
and
green
initiative
champion
on
a
renovation
or
a
new
building
and
alignment
with
our
cap
2.0
on
the
renovation
versus
a
new
building,
so
I
I'm
gonna
say
that
I
did
vote
no
on
this
project
when
it
came
to
the
council
in
November,
so
I
I
really
believe
that
we
need
to
do
a
little
bit
more
research
open
up
more
options
before
we
can
decide
what
I
see
this,
it
doesn't
mean
that
we're
not
going
to
do
the
27
million
dollars.
A
So
this
is
how
I
envisioned
the
processes,
when
you
have
more
options,
so
you'll
get
your
time
to
to
talk
okay,
so
I'm
answering
your
question
is
my
vision
or
why?
Why
I
advocate
for
for
opening
up
this
for
more
research
to
have
more
financing
part
of
it?
So
we
get
a
more
a
broader
picture
and
I
want
to
say
again.
This
is
not
just
my
vision.
We
got
a
lot
of
comments
after
we
decided
on
this
that
people
are
coming
in
the
in
the
City
Council
meetings,
and
talking
about
you
know
versus
a
renovation.
A
Is
that
the
value
we
want
to
put
so
I
do
believe.
We
need
to
have
more
options,
a
little
bit
more
research,
a
little
bit
more
options
so
as
to
take
a
look
at
the
whole
thing,
more
holistically
and
I
do
like
council
member
froome's
suggestion
in
the
motion
that
doesn't
have
to
be
in
the
city
hall,
but
the
the
staff
can
come
up
with
other
locations
that
the
city
has
to
kind
of
get
this
whole
holistic
view
of
what
we
have.
So
that's
what
I
do
that's
what
I
to
answer
your
question?
A
This
is
what
I
believe
we
need
to
have
more
in-depth
study
of
what
options
are
there
out
there?
The
renovation
is
still
an
option,
so
a
new
city
hall
of
how
big
is
whether
it's
be
70
000
square
feet,
whether
it
be
all
in
here
or
somewhere
else,
I
just
believe
that
we
need
to
have
more
options
and
the
financing
part
too.
A
G
Sure
so,
I
having
been
in
in
City
Hall
many
times
I,
it's
very
clear
to
me
that
that
people
are
having
to
work
in
very
tiny
conditions.
I
think
they
should
be
working
in
better
conditions
than
what
they
are
so
I
think
that
what
we
have
at
the
moment
is
already
subpar.
It
needs
to
be
improved,
looking
back
at
the
past,
which
is
why
I
brought
up
the
the
budget
at
a
glance.
It's
very
clear
that
we're
going
to
continue
to
grow
our
staffing
needs
as
the
city
grows.
G
We
have
a
housing
element
that
we
are
going
to
have
to
at
some
point
pass
that
will
facilitate
the
construction
of
you
know:
4
588,
new
homes,
that's
a
lot
of
homes.
It's
a
lot
of
new
people.
We
will
need
people
to
service
those
people
who
will
work
for
us
in
City,
Hall
and
elsewhere.
So
I
think
that
we
deserve
at
this
point
a
better
building,
I
think
we're
going
to
need
a
better
building,
and
this
isn't
about
you
know
keeping
up
with
the
Joneses.
G
It's
about
making
sure
that
we
have
something
that
we
can
be
proud
of.
I
I.
Don't
think
that
the
building
that
we
have
right
now,
if
it
were
merely
renovated,
is
something
that
we
can
be
proud
of,
especially
if
you
know
we're
going
to
just
slap
on
a
Band-Aid
for
27
million
dollars.
I'd
encourage
you
to
go
back
and
look
at
the
staff
report
from
the
15th,
because
it
does
include
to
the
per
square
foot
cost
of
each
of
the
options
and
that
the
27
000
I'm.
G
Sorry,
the
27
million
dollar
option
which
Council
had
chosen
is
one
of
the
more
expensive
ones
on
a
per
square
foot
basis,
868
dollars
per
square
foot,
a
considerably
larger
building
that
was
70
000
square
feet
as
compared
to
the
24
000
square
feet.
Foot
building
that
that
exists
was
only
going
to
be
582
dollars
per
square
foot.
So
I'm
not
really
sure
that
that
the
fiscally
responsible
option
is
the
one
that's
simply
less
expensive
on
a
total
ticket
value.
G
I
think
it's
the
one
that's
going
to
give
us
the
best
value
for
money
in
the
long
run.
I,
don't
think
that
the
current
building
meets
that
and
I
think
that
we
can
satisfy
some
of
our
other
goals
and
plans
as
a
city,
for
example,
making
a
much
more
environmentally
Sustainable
Building
Etc,
and
what
other
you
know,
programming
uses
we
can
afford
to
put
into
the
space
that
the
community
has
a
demand
for,
and
one
of
those
is
a
larger
Gathering
space.
G
A
Thank
you
councilmember
and
then
I
do
I
want
to
Mayor.
D
G
That
it's
very
simple
I'm,
simply
trying
to
provide
a
a
reasonable
scope
for
staff
so
that
there's
something
concrete
to
come
back
with.
Hence
also
the
reference
to
utilizing
the
the
options
that
were
previously
presented
so
that
we
don't
have
to
go
completely
back
to
the
drawing
board
and
we
can
hopefully
get
somewhere
in
the
course
of
this
year.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
so
you
still
have
a
couple
minutes
associated.
O
My
thinking
on
this
Mary
is
that
here
we
have
an
a
golden
opportunity
to
do
something
different,
none
of
us
I
think
is
going
to
be
spending
more
than
we
have,
but
there
are
all
kinds
of
interesting
financing
options
available
these
days
and
we
haven't
really
explored
that.
So
my
suggestion
is:
we
look
at
all
these
different
options
for
financing
for
design.
O
For
you
know
the
new
amenities
that
that
we
didn't
have
when
we
did
the
the
previous
study
and
and
the
market
has
changed,
the
world
has
changed
in
the
last
few
years.
So
there
are
a
lot
of
things
that
we
cannot
take
for
granted,
which
were
displayed
in
previous
reports.
So
my
suggestion
is:
let's
look
at
the
parking,
which
has
always
been
an
issue
in
in
the
Civic
Center
area.
Let's
look
at
the
pla
the
parking.
Let's
look
at
Community
facilities,
which
we
can
accommodate.
O
Let's
make
sure
that
the
building
can
be
flexible
in
terms
of
maybe
adding
later
on.
If
what
we
have
is
not
sufficient,
be
environmentally
sustainable
and
and
just
make
sure
we
we
get
the
best
bang
for
the
buck.
I.
Don't
think
that
there
is
any
any
of
us
are
going
to
want
to
build
something
that
we
cannot
afford.
So
so
that
I
am
not
too
concerned
about,
because
we
are
all
I
think
fairly
conservative
and
we
will
sort
of
make
sure
that
whatever
design
is
presented
to
us
meets
all
the
requirements.
F
First,
through
the
mayor,
I'm,
not
sure
I
heard
the
second
from
council
member
Chao.
Regarding
my
substitute
motion,
I
just
want
to
double
check
if
I.
If
that
did
happen,.
F
Okay,
okay,
so
we'll
get
further.
Okay,
so
I'll
make
my
comments
now
so
for
this
presentation,
I
think
it
would
have
been
particularly
helpful
if
we
had
the
images
of
the
current
city
hall
showing
the
well
perhaps
I
can
share
a
screen
I'm
going
to
try.
It
I
haven't
done
this
before.
P
F
It's
in
there
and
I'm
sharing,
screen,
I
think:
yes,
okay,
there
we
go
all
right
and
then
perhaps
if
Susan
could
walk
us
through
what
we're
looking
at,
for
instance,
on
the
right
hand,
side
that
area
in
the
middle
of
the
building
is
the
current
EOC
right
and
that
is
being
relocated
to
the
Tory
Avenue
Annex
and
that
will
have
a
really
actually
very
neat
Flex
space,
with
kind
of
like
an
Eagles
Nest,
that's
able
to
look
over
the
the
main
floor
in
the
event
of
an
emergency.
F
So
that's
a
pretty
exciting
thing
that
came
out
of
the
of
the
subcommittee
research
and
now
looking
at
the
lower
floor
with
the
the
says,
the
61
seat,
now
I'm
wondering
if
that
is
including
the
the
areas
of
the
the
storage.
F
You
have
a
mapping
room,
mapping,
storage.
The
HVAC
has
multiple
older
structures,
machine
Machinery
in
there
that
would
be
condensed
down
so
I'm,
trying
to
understand
when
I'm
looking
at
the
downstairs,
what
what's
actually
being
counted
there,
because
it
seems
like
a
lot
of
that
space
could
be
freed
up,
and
probably
will
be.
Is
that
right?
F
Okay,
so
I'll
get
into
my
my
comments
here
so
going
back
to
the
recommendation
that
came
from
City
staff
to
the
City
Hall
subcommittee,
it
was
to
do
the
renovation.
That
was
the
recommendation
that
we
were
given
from
staff.
So
this
change
that's
happening
here.
I
want
to
make
it
very
clear
that
it
is
a
change
from
certain
members
of
the
city
council
to
override
the
staff
recommendation
to
the
City.
Hall
subcommittee
want
to
make
sure
that's
clear.
It
was
also
mentioned
about
the
cdtfa
audit.
F
It
is
not
completed
and
it
can
result
in
a
30
million
dollar
reduction
in
Revenue
each
year
and
we
have
not
found
out
what's
what's
happening
with
that,
so
I,
you
know
talking
about
being
fiscally
conservative
if
you're
looking
at
a
risky
time,
so
you're
not
sure,
what's
going
to
happen
to
your
Revenue,
the
interest
rates
are
high.
This
is
not
a
time
to
issue
bonds
and
all
of
that
needed
to
be
taken
into
consideration.
F
The
city
does
not
need
to
have
a
500
seat
event
space
when
De
Anza
College
is
going
to
be
utilizing.
The
890
I'm
sorry
800
about
900
million
dollar
bond,
which,
which
was
passed
a
couple
of
years
ago
in
which
they
are
going
to
be
building
a
an
event
space
facility.
There
they've
got
ample
parking
there
already.
F
The
public
has
not
been
asked
what
they
would
like
to
have
their
money
spent
on
with
a
community
like
a
new
Aquatic
Center,
a
new
sports
facility,
the
city,
a
council,
has
kicked
the
can
down
the
road
on
this
seismic
issue
since
first
discovering
the
error
in
around
2005
to
2006,
and
here
we're
looking
at
spending
even
more
money
on
another
study,
so
I
hope
everybody
has
looked
at
the
city
hall
page
on
the
website,
with
all
of
the
documentation
that
has
gone
on
over
the
years.
So
much
money
has
been
spent
on
Consultants.
F
It
is
it's
it's!
It's
really
sad
and
we've
gotten
nowhere,
so
we
at
least
had
a
plan
with
the
27
million
to
move
on
to
a
tier
four
seismic
retrofit
secure
that
building
have
the
flexibility.
If
we
want
to
move
the
EOC
back
into
it,
that
we
could
do
that
and
improve
the
the
the
Ada
issues.
Reconfigure.
F
All
of
the
offices
there
provides
a
central
light
light
structure
from
above
change.
The
roofing
there
there's
so
much
that
could
be
done
to
that
building
and
make
it
definitely
with.
With
regards
to
the
climate
action
plan,
2.0
issue.
We
have
to
be
compliant
with
that
as
well.
We
are
responsible
as
stewards
for
our
communities
money
and
we
need
to
support
the
staff
and
their
safety.
F
The
plan
that
we
have
the
tier
four
renovation
takes
care
of
that
we
are
I'm
going
to
mention
this
again,
we're
in
a
high
interest
environment
and
we
are
already
paying
500
000
per
month,
servicing
the
debt
that
we
have,
and
this
just
looks
like
we're,
trying
to
pile
more
onto
it
when
we
need
to
improve
the
Public
Works,
Yard,
Memorial,
Park,
Sports,
Center
and
plan
for
recreational
areas
for
the
future
residents,
while
the
staff
is
often
working
remotely
and
some
are
working
completely
remotely
not
even
coming
in.
Thank
you.
C
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
the
industry
standard
is
going
to
is
moving
to
have
smaller
and
more
flexible
work
quarters
the
current
work
quarter.
That's
in
the
city
hall
is
significantly
larger.
Pro
per
workspace
than
the
industry
standard
I
think
it's
like
50,
more
per
employee.
So
if
we
renovate
the
city
hall
to
utilize
a
more
modern
workspace,
we
actually
can
accommodate
more
employees
with
the
same
space
and
also
that
I
would
like
to
know
what
would
be
the
delay.
C
I
think
we
know
that
Steph
is
concerned
of
the
earth
safety
and,
with
the
current
approve
the
plan,
we
expect
to
finish
Construction
in
two
years.
That
means
in
2026
we
will
have
a
brand
new
earthquake,
safe,
City
Hall,
then,
with
a
whole
new
plan.
That
means
we
will
need
to
do
Outreach
likely
to
a
SQL
analysis
where
it's
just
500
and
with
with
this
many
increase
in
space.
So
how
much
estimated
time
it
will
take
to
eventually
even
come
up
with
a
plan.
D
D
C
Okay,
then
best
based
on
past
experience
in
2015
that
approved
the
plan.
I
think
it
took
two
years
of
on
Outreach
revieging.
Eventually
a
council
approval,
and
then
the
council
decides
they
couldn't
come
up
with
the
financing
option
that
works
for
them.
So
we
are
going
to
repeat
the
same
process
and
further
delay
the
renovation
of
the
city
hall
to
make
it
earthquake
safe.
That's
the
current
proposal,
so
I
would
like
second
council
member
Morris
motion
to
reaffirm
the
council's
dcg.
So.
A
Okay,
so
we
have
a
substitute
motion:
that's
being
motioned
by
councilman
Moore,
second,
by
council
member
Chao.
Do
we
have
more
input
so
before
we
vote?
What
I
would
like
to
emphasize
is
I
think
the
timeline,
the
financing
that
options
I
would
like
to
see
those
options
and
I
do
think.
Councilmember
froons
proposal
is
flexible
enough
that
the
staff
can
come
up
with.
You
know
maybe
two
or
three
plans
so
that
we
can
really
look
at
everything.
A
That's
out
there
that's
possible
and
vice
mayor
mohan's
suggestions
that
you
know
we
look
at
what's
available
out.
There
I
just
believe
that
spend
27
million
dollars
to
renovate
an
old
building.
It
is
sort
of
a
you
know,
Patchwork
right.
So
if
we
want
to
look
at
something
long-term
for
the
next
20
50
years,
I
like
to
have
some
options
to
check
it
out,
so
we
have
a
motion
and
a
second
can
we
start
a
vote
before
we
have
any
any
more
comments.
A
F
We
get
a
I
would
like
to
collect
more
comments.
Are
you?
Okay?
Yes,
so
I
really
appreciate
a
council
member
Chow's
comments,
particularly
with
regards
to
earthquake,
and
we
and
the
eir
issue.
C
Microphone
was
involved,
have
been
attending
council
meeting
since
2014-16
I
find
that
this
Council
in
the
past
had
considered.
There
was
a
Stevens
Creek,
there's
some
plane
and
it
was
estimated
to
be
40
million
and
then
50
million
and
then
70
million
and
then
dropped.
The
council
keep
considering
plans
spending
time
on
consultant
to
make
up
plans
before
they
even
know
they
can
afford
it
and
then,
after
they
have
the
plan,
they
first
go
out.
Imagine
really
big
the
past
Council
project
in
2013,
the
first
virgin
was
going.
C
The
options
were
costing
like
200
million
dollars.
They
come
came
to
the
council.
After
all,
the
Outreach
imagine
a
lot
with
really
nice
things
on
this
in
in
this
Civic
Center
space,
and
then
the
council
that
200
million
is
too
much
they
reduce
the
scope,
came
back
and
then
three
options
the
to
renovate
only
and
up
to
a
new
city
hall,
and
the
cost
estimate
was
around
from
50
million
to
70
million.
That
Council
then
choose
70
million
dollars.
So
I'm
concerned
that
we
are
going
back
again
doing
the
same
work.
C
A
So,
thank
you
for
the
history.
Let's
hope
that
we
don't
repeat
that
history
I
councilmember.
Do
you
want
to
say
something?
No
you're
good.
So
please
make
quick.
So
we
can.
F
Yeah,
yes,
thank
you,
I
think.
That's
a
really
good
point
council
member
Chao,
and
when
we
look
at
the
Grand
Jury
report,
the
house
divided.
They
mentioned
that
that
staff
was
concerned
that
the
city
council
wasn't
showing
their
care
for
their
safety
in
the
the
city
hall
building
and
again
we're
we're
pushing
this
off
they're
saying
we
have
over
a
65
percent
chance
of
having
a
earthquake
magnitude
like
6.7
or
greater
in
our
in
our
future
and
I.
I.
F
Think
that
we
we
need
to
be
cognizant
of
that
fact,
and
and
not
kick
this
down
the
road.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
A
Thank
you,
I.
C
Need
to
vote
yeah,
so
one
final
comment:
I
think
our
we
should
not
be
driven
by
our
ego
to
be
the
best,
the
brightest
and
then
and
to
be
the
better
than
any
other
City.
We
should
be
driven
by
how
much
we
can
available
and
then
the
current
plan
will
we
will
have
a
renovated.
The
earthquake,
safe,
City
Hall
by
2026,
and
that's
always.
A
A
So
we're
ready
to
vote
right.
Okay,
let's
substitute.
C
A
We're
looking
voting
for
the
subject
motion,
let's
vote
by
light.
A
So
now
we're
going
back
to
the
council
member
froons
motion.
Anybody
want
to
make
more
comments.
O
I
wanted
to
make
a
comment,
while
there
some
of
the
numbers
that
council
member
more
talked
about,
while
many
of
those
may
be
relevant
and
may
still
apply
to
today,
there's
a
lot
that
we
don't
know.
Things
have
changed
dramatically
in
the
last
few
years,
so
my
hope
is
that
a
consultant
will
give
us
all
these
options.
You
know
including
price
and
square
footage
and
employee
Workforce
and
a
state
of
the
economy
in
the
city
in
the
region
and
also
include
the
option
of
staying
with
the
recommendation.
A
A
You
know
post-pointed
get
it
for
two
years
we
learned
from
the
past
so
I'm,
hoping
that
we
could
provide
more
options
and
let
the
city,
council
and
staff,
and
also
the
public,
really
get
into
what
options
do
we
have
so
I,
don't
believe,
that's
going
to
be
a
five-year
delay.
So
that's
what
I
believe
the
flexibility
in
council
member
of
rooms
motion
is
it's
a
good
way
for
the
staff
to
kind
of
go
with
the
CIP
plan
and
come
back
with
recommendations.
F
So,
according
to
the
third
uniform
California
earthquake
rupture
forecast
report
in
the
next
30
Years
beginning
in
2014,
there
is
more
than
a
99
chance
that
one
or
more
6.7
or
greater
earthquake
will
strike
somewhere
in
California.
A
75
percent
chance
that
one
or
more
7.0
or
greater
earthquake
will
strike
Southern
California
in
a
76
percent
chance
one
or
more
7.0
or
greater
earthquake
will
strike
in
Northern
California.
F
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
on
the
record
that
I
my
motion
and
the
support
that
I
received
from
council
member
with
ciao
were
to
move
forward
to
have
a
tier,
4
seismic
designed
remodel
of
the
building
that
could
that
would
be
on
the
CIP
work
program
for
this
year
and
get
get
working
on
to
finally
show
the
care
and
concern
that
the
city
staff
has
mentioned
and
in
the
grand
jury
report
that
they
do
not
feel
that
they
are
getting
from
a
city
council.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
so
all
the
more
we
need
to
work
fast.
So
do
we
have
any
more
comments?
People
we
go
to
a
vote
by
light.
No,
so
can
we
vote
by
light.
Thank
you.
A
Okay,
so
our
official
meeting
doesn't
start
until
6
45.
We
have
a
break
until
6
45
all
right.
We
have
a
half
an
hour
break.
Thank
you.
A
A
Q
A
Thank
you.
There
is
no
close
action
items
to
report
I
like
to
speak
a
little
bit
before
we
go
to
the
ceremony
items
I
like
to
make
a
short
statement:
honorable
February
as
Black
History
Month,
every
February.
They
use
the
U.S
honors
the
contributions
and
sacrifices
of
African
Americans,
who
have
helped
shape
the
nation
Black
History
Month
celebrates
the
rich
cultural
heritage,
triumphs
and
adversities
that
are
an
indelible
part
of
our
country's
history.
This
ears
thing
black
Health
and
Wellness
pay
homage
to
Medical
Scholars
and
health
care
providers.
A
The
thing
is
especially
timing
as
we
enter
the
third
year
of
the
covid-19
pandemic,
which
has
dispersed
approximately
affected
minority
communities
and
place
unique
burdens
on
black
Healthcare
professionals.
So
we
like
to
celebrate
February
as
black
history
month.
Thank
you
very
much.
Now
we're
going
to
into
our
ceremony
items
and
first
we
would
like
to
recognize
the
2022
stamp
winners
from
the
city
of
Cupertino
who
participated
in
the
Sankara
County
2022
synopsis,
Championship
science
fair.
There
are
36
winners
from
Cupertino.
Let's
give
them
a
round
of
applause.
Thank
you.
A
A
R
And
the
city
has
graciously
done
that
so
I
want
to
thank
the
mayor
and
I
want
to
thank
the
council
members
I
want
to
thank
Laura
for
all
the
work
that
she
did.
Putting
all
this
together.
Notifying
you
sending
messages
out
to
you.
I
want
to
thank
the
parents,
the
parents
and
the
students,
most
of
all
for
your
work.
You've
done
outstanding
work
and
we
want
to
showcase
that.
R
A
We'll
set
first
I
would
like
to
congratulate
all
the
students.
You
are
our
next
Generations
of
Hope
and
for
quick.
We
could
not
give
you
each
certificate,
but
is
in
here
for
a
quick
photo
up.
Could
all
the
students
come
up
here?
Please.
R
R
P
A
R
J
A
A
A
This
is
the
best
Ikebana
Masters
that
were
honoring
right
here
and
Miss
fusaka
actually
taught
teachers
at
Fremont,
Union,
High,
School,
District's,
adult
school
and
they're
going
to
have
a
beautiful
display
in
the
first
week
of
March,
Saturday
and
Sunday
at
Quinlan
community
centers,
please
do
see
this
every
year
is
beautiful,
but
I'm
pretty
sure.
On
the
fifth
anniversary,
it's
going
to
be
even
more
spectacular,
which
is
say
a
few
words
please.
S
S
A
A
A
Because
we
have
the
new
procedures
in
place,
so
I
like
to
remind
the
public
that,
if
you
like
to
make
oral
Communications,
including
the
information
items
in
the
back
of
the
agenda,
you
can
make
oral
communication
here
right
here
in
on
the
back
of
the
agenda
of
information
items.
Another
reminder
is
when
we
go
to
item
number
10
the
grand
jury
report,
because
this
is
a
continuing
item
from
the
last
city
council
meeting
the
staff
report.
The
council
already
asked
questions
and
public
comments
already
been
done.
A
So
if
you
have
more
comments
on
that,
you
can
also
make
it
right
here
at
oral
communication
clerk.
Do
we
have
how
many
cards
do
we
have.
B
Okay,
thank
you
and,
as
a
reminder,
I,
don't
believe
I,
don't
think
you
mentioned
it
mayor.
Please
have
your
hands
raised
and
or
your
speaker
cards
submitted
in
the
next
nine
minutes.
First
speaker
is
Connie
Cunningham,
followed
by
Jennifer
Griffin,
followed
by
Don
Halsey
welcome,
Connie.
B
B
M
Welcome
hi,
I'm,
Jennifer
Griffin
I've,
never
seen
anything
like
this
in
23
years,
where
the
public
is
supposed
to
compress
everything
that
they
want
to
talk
about
in
their
City
Council
meetings,
their
City
Council
meetings,
the
public
city
council
meetings,
not
the
staff,
not
the
elected,
you
all
are
elected.
You
serve
at
the
pleasure
of
the
public.
M
I,
never
thought
that
I'd
be
pushed
having
to
talk
to
everything
on
this
agenda
in
three
minutes,
but
I'm
gonna
do
it
because
I
have
23
years
and
yes,
I
had
parliamentary
in
high
school
I
had
a
gianza
college
and
I
had
it
at
San,
Jose,
State,
I,
know
parliamentary
law.
Okay,
we're
going
to
talk
about
Builders
remedy
right
now.
Builders
remedy
is
threatening
intimidating
cities
across
this
state.
Los
Altos
Hills
has
three
Builders
remedies
that
have
been
submitted
and
they
got
their
housing
element
in
on
time.
M
So
what
does
that
say
about
intimidation,
a
city?
Does
everything
that
the
hcd
and
the
governor
wants
them
and
they're
still
threatened
with
Builders
remedy?
One
of
them
is
above
the
end,
the
Foothill
College
in
an
area
that
was
evacuated
almost
last
summer
because
of
wildfire
I
I
won't
even
go
on
out
any
further
okay.
So
let's
talk
about
grand
jury.
I'm
really
really
concerned
about
this,
because
okay
I'm
doing
pretty
good
I've
got
one
minute
and
31
seconds
all
right.
Number,
10,
grand
jury
I'm
really
really
concerned
that
this
was
a
setup.
M
I
I'm
really
really
concerned
about
this.
Also
I
still
don't
know
what
about
the
square
footage
at
Main,
Street
number,
13.,
I,
don't
know
what
an
informational
item
is.
I
haven't
been
able
to
talk
about
it,
so
I'm
going
to
talk
about
it,
and
if
somebody
wants
to
shut
me
up,
they
can
I
sat
for
five
years
on
the
deliberations
for
Main
Street.
M
There
were
we
all
put
our
time
in
okay,
yes,
but
what
happens
is
that
now,
all
of
a
sudden,
we
want
to
up
the
restaurant
quota
well,
I'm,
so
I'm,
sorry,
Main
Street
was
floated
on
the
idea
that
we
were
replacing
retail
that
was
lost
at
velco
destroyed
at
velco.
So
no
you
want
to
put
more
I
I,
don't
I
tried
to
shop
in
Cupertino,
but
frankly,
it's
a
hassle,
there's
a
beautiful
new
Target
store
in
Scotts
Valley
and
I
shop.
M
There
I
avoid
Cupertino
shopping
as
much
as
possible,
because
there's
no
retail,
you
know
I'm
sorry
I've
got
nine
seconds,
but
I
have
never
in
my
life,
seen
anything
like
what
happened
to
our
agenda,
etc,
etc.
In
the
last
two
months,
what.
P
B
You,
okay,
I,
have
don
Halsey,
followed
by
Richard
millinger,
followed
by
Lisa
Warren.
H
A
H
What
I
wanted
to
speak
good
evening
mayor
way
vice
mayor,
Mohan
and
council
members,
my
name
is
Connie
Cunningham
I'm
a
long
time
resident
of
Cupertino
I'm,
a
member
of
the
Housing
Commission
speaking
for
myself.
Only
sadly,
we
are
still
recovering
from
prior
leadership
that
has
greatly
damaged
our
reputation,
including
the
past
actions
of
planning.
Commissioner
R
Wang
I
am
here
to
urge
Council
to
remove
our
Wang.
All
Commissioners
are
required
to
follow
the
guidelines
and
rules
in
the
commissioner's
handbook
dated
2021
and
the
code
of
ethics
referenced
to
it
and
dated
2020.
H
Commissioners
are
required
to
avoid
directing
or
prioritizing
work
for
departments
or
individual
staff.
Commissioners
are
required
to
refrain
from
abusive
conduct,
personal
charges
or
verbal
attacks
on
the
character
or
motives
of
others,
including
members
of
the
staff
in
two
separate
instances,
I
have
personally
witnessed
and
recorded
in
writing
or
video
are
Wang
violating
these
policies.
After
I
finish
speaking,
I
will
send
to
council
the
emails
and
videos
of
those
violations
on
February
17
2021.
H
Then,
chair
of
the
planning
commission,
R
Wang
sent
an
email
to
the
city
manager
and
copied
four
of
the
council
members
at
that
time:
Darcy
Paul
Lang,
Chao,
Kitty,
Moore
and
John
Willy
in
this
email
he
made
a
formal
complaint
of
a
highly
placed
staff
member.
This
formal
complaint
was
his
opinion
about
the
character
and
motives
of
that
staff.
Member
at
commission
meeting.
He
did
not
limit
himself
to
actions
at
the
meeting
but
went
on
to
hope
that
their
actions
did
not
represent
how
the
staff
member
might
feel
about
other
people,
including
residents
orwang.
H
Then
chair
took
a
public
and
hostile
position
on
a
matter
that
should
have
been
discussed
in
a
private
meeting
with
the
mayor.
Even
though
not
an
addressee
I
saw
this
email
because
council
member
Liang
Chao
forwarded
that
message
on
that
very
day
or
the
very
next
day
to
all
housing
Commissioners
asking
for
our
opinion
of
how
this
staff
member
treated
us
when
discussing
the
same
agenda
item
at
our
meeting.
Therefore,
five
other
people
were
part
of
something
that
was
not
intended
for
them.
H
Tessa,
Parish,
government
and
I
see
both
and
I
were
all
on
that
email.
Liang
said
that
she
hadn't
heard
from
any
of
us
about
this
issue.
She
said,
then,
that
the
council
couldn't
do
anything
about
this
kind
of
behavior
if
we
didn't
bring
it
up
to
the
council.
In
writing.
I
replied
in
writing
that
our
meeting
went
very
well.
H
Excuse
me
at
a
Planning,
Commission
meeting
and
I
attended
as
a
resident
several
times
during
that
meeting,
he
devalued
the
work
of
several
people
working
on
the
housing
element,
site
selection,
after
being
advised
by
the
City
attorney
that
the
agenda
was
on
the
site
selection,
not
a
performance
appraisal.
Rwong
talked
over
the
attorney
while
he
was
talking
and
several
times
thereafter
again
gave
his
negative
opinion
on
performance
loud
and
hostile.
In
writing.
I
notified
all
council
members
with
clips
of
the
video
I,
received
a
comment
from
council
member
Moore.
H
T
B
Q
Q
Q
There's
a
gremlin
here
in
Prior
meetings.
There
was
a
lady
who
spoke
of
bluebirds
red
tail,
Hogs
blue
herons,
half
Blackberry
Farm.
She
said
they
were
there.
Another
person
commented
to
the
city
council
last
meeting.
What
can
the
city
council
do
to
increase
biodiversity
and
conserve
water?
We're
going
to
address
those
questions
in
the
prior
time.
I
was
up
here,
presented
to
scholarly
studies,
studies
that
showed
that
golf
courses
are
more
biodiverse
than
neighboring
green
spaces.
Two
different
studies,
the
golf
courses,
one
every
time.
Q
Now,
let's
bring
it
back
to
local,
you
know,
maybe
that
doesn't
apply
we'll
find
out.
There's
a
little
trigger
warning
here.
It's
because
there
are
some
cute
young
animal
photos
in
case
that
emotionally
affects
some
people
just
to
avert
your
eyes.
One
of
the
folks
who
plays
golf
regularly
at
the
Blackberry
Farm
is
a
nature
photographer
and
he's
provide.
These
are
the
blue
birds
that
the
lady
talked
about.
Okay,
they're
actually
getting
established
there.
This
is
the
2022
crop,
here's
the
2021
crop.
You
know
you
can
see
another
ones
on
the
little
chicks
in
there.
Q
So
that's
the
bluebirds
over
here
you'll,
see
on
the
top
left
is
the
the
red-tailed
hawk
and
several
of
the
Blue
Heron.
So
we
see
now
those
birds
that
she
talked
about,
but
that's
not
all,
there's
coyotes
and
skunks,
and
pheasants
and
deer
lots
of
biodiversity
there
and
that's
not
all
that's
another
kind
of
Nighthawk
here,
a
possum
and
the
deer.
We
got
plenty
of
biodiversity
at
the
golf
course,
so
we
can
still
make
it
more.
This
is
a
graph
of
the
water
level
in
the
reservoir
at
Stevens.
Q
Creek,
it's
pretty
low,
okay
compared
to
the
capacity
goes
up
in
January,
comes
down,
goes
up
in
January
comes
down,
it
got
so
high.
This
January
we
hit
90
and
they
started
flushing
out
water
into
the
bay.
That's
a
terrible
waste
of
water.
So
what
should
we
do?
We
should
fill
the
ponds
at
the
golf
course
which
brings
back
the
net,
the
wildlife
and
the
ponds
percolate
into
the
aquifer,
which
is
low,
and
we
need
to
raise
it
up.
It's
a
win-win.
Q
B
You
thank
you,
and
so
we
have
four
speaker
cards
in-house
and
we
have
eight
people
who
had
their
hands
raised
within
the
nine
minute
cut
off.
So
just
a
time
check,
mirror
that'll,
bring
us
to
an
additional
36
minutes
and
we've
spent
about
12
minutes
so
based
on
the
council
procedures
handbook,
you
may
choose
to
cut
off
at
the
30
minute
time
or
do
you
do
you
want
to
go
the
full
48
minutes
that
we
have
foreign,
so
I
should
say
36
minutes
left
remaining
with
all
the
speakers.
B
U
Good
evening,
mayor
way
and
honorable
council
members,
my
name
is
Richard
mellinger.
You
received
a
letter
from
me
earlier
today.
I
have
the
profound
honor
to
serve
as
council
member
for
the
City
of
Sunnyvale
District
Five,
though
I
wish
to
State
very
clearly
that
I'm
speaking
solely
on
my
own
behalf
and
not
that
of
the
City
of
Sunnyvale
or
any
other
organization
in
2019,
I
wrote
a
tweet,
criticizing
Planning
Commission,
chair,
Ray
Wong
for
writing.
A
next-door
post
calling
on
residents
to
quote
save
the
suburbs
from
an
onslaught
of
anarchists
and
yimby
neoliberal
fascists.
U
U
Wang
responded
to
my
tweet
on
Nextdoor
by
saying:
well,
that's
fun
smiley
face
we'll
have
to
talk
to
Richard's
employer.
He
went
on
next
time.
You
get
harassed
by
a
yimby
track
down
their
employer
and
send
their
HR
legal
and
CEO
a
letter
outlining
their
yimby
stance
and
all
their
tweets,
their
digital
and
social
com
to
show
their
lack
of
Civility.
It
goes
a
long
way
to
getting
them
reprimanded
and,
in
some
cases,
a
dose
of
reality.
U
U
When
this
became
apparent
Mr,
it
appeared
at
the
time
that
Mr
Wang
was
in
a
dispute
with
her
over
a
proposed
water
recycling
plant
and
was
seeking
to
discredit
her
when
contacted
by
the
Press
over
this
incident.
He
stated
I
believe
developer
instance,
interest
for
recycled
water,
hacked
my
network
and
allegedly
framed
me.
Despite
extensive
reporting,
no
action
was
taken
by
the
Cupertino
city
council,
not
long
after
this
incident.
Mr
Wang
again
found
himself
in
the
news
this
time
for
threatening
yet
another
critic
with
a
frivolous
defamation
suit.
U
This
is
a
man
who
constituent,
consistently
and
habitually
seeks
to
intimidate
his
critics
into
silence.
His
behavior
creates
a
chilling
effect
on
freedom
of
speech
within
Cupertino
and
the
region
where
those
upset
about
the
actions
of
their
government
and
public
officials
must
now
weigh
whether
speaking
out
is
worth
the
risk
of
harassment,
lawsuits
and
job
termination
worse.
He
has
made
a
mockery
of
his
oath
of
office
to
uphold
the
Constitution
by
actively
seeking
to
suppress
freedom
of
speech,
the
core
freedom
on
which
our
democracy
is
built.
U
L
You
so
I
was
pleased
to
see
Forest
Williams
here
tonight
and
it
reminded
me-
and
this
is
a
good
time
to
say
it-
the
first
time
I
met
him.
He
was
a
city
council,
member
in
San
Jose.
He
was
about
25
years
ago,
I
believe
around
about
and
a
quote
that
I
use,
often
that
came
from
Mr
Williams
is
a
good
project
in
the
wrong
place,
is
a
bad
project
and
I
use
it.
Some
of
you
have
heard
it
before,
but
seeing
him
reminded
me
to
just
say
it
once
again
so
I
city
clerk.
L
So
I'm
going
to
be
speaking
about
an
informational
item.
The
Main
Street
item
and
I
have
lots
of
comments
that
can
come
later
or
I
can
send
in.
But
I
just
want
to
make
this
public
that
the
proposed
there's
a
proposal
that's
being
studied,
and
the
proposed
thing
is
an
a
proposed
entertainment
use.
Replacing
the
former
Target
building
the
Main
Street
mixed-use
Center
has
proposed
to
replace
the
now
vacant
Target
space
with
a
new
entertainment
use.
This
is
straight
from
a
draft
report
from
a
consultant.
L
The
entertainment
may
use
sorry,
including
bowling
indoor,
golf,
electric
shuffleboard
ping,
pong
tables
and
our
pool
tables.
In
addition
to
the
entertainment
activities,
the
space
would
include
2500
square
feet
of
dining
and
38
50
square
feet
of
bar
or
lounge
space.
The
total
square
footage
of
the
tenant
space
is
21,
380.
I
thought
it
was
closer
to
2200,
but
that's
just
a
snippet
from
the
20.
L
But
if
this
moves
forward
to
anything
well,
hopefully
it
will
come
to
Planning
Commission
in
city
council,
because
it's
been
going
on
since
before
May,
and
the
only
reason
we
heard
about
it
is
because
the
council
member
requested
information
about
it
and
that's
why
it
was
a
information
memory
memo
which
we
now
can't
speak
to.
So.
L
I
think
people
need
to
remember
what
Main
Street
was
meant
to
be
what
Main
Street
was
sold
to
be
the
immense
participation
by
the
community
that
you
people
beg
for
all
the
time.
Why
don't
we
hear
from
anybody?
Why
don't
we
hear
from
anybody
nobody's
participating?
We
can't
get
them
engaged.
There
were
Quinlan
center.
Community
room
was
full
of
people
at
roundtables
discussing
this
project.
L
B
V
Good
evening,
council
members
and
two
I'm
going
to
take
a
step
back
in
history
as
I.
Somehow
sometimes
do
it
because
I've
been
a
Cupertino
resident
for
40
years
and
I
Faithfully
read
the
general
plan
in
2006,
the
planning
department
recommended-
and
this
was
upheld
by
the
Planning
Commission-
to
not
allow
Public
Storage
to
replace
its
one-story
building
with
a
three-story
project.
That
would
be
three
times
the
existing
footprint
sometime
around
2016.
That
building
was
replaced
by
a
four-story
building
and
having
about
a
four
top
four-fold
footprint.
V
The
reason
for
its
rejection
is
because
that
area
called
the
north
De
Anza
special
area
doesn't
have
Public
Storage
as
one
of
its
uses
as
Self
Storage
I
should
say,
and
in
other
words
putting
in
a
self
storage.
There
was
and
was
an
intensification
of
a
non-conforming
use.
So
now
we
have
this
very
large
building
and
it
was
supposed
to
resemble
an
office
building
and
doesn't
on
one
side
it's
very
nondescript.
It
looks
kind
of
like
a
warehouse
perhaps
and
on
the
other
side
I
would
say
it
looks
like
a
Penitentiary.
V
It's
it
has
these
orange
blobs
on
it
and
orange
doors.
It's
been
illuminated
at
night
and
now
adding
insult
to
injury.
There
is
a
plan
which,
unfortunately,
you
voted
for
on
February
7
to
erect
a
large
illuminated
sign,
so
we're
not
allowed
to
show
plans
here
so
I
I
kind
of
came
up
with
a
visual
here,
so
you
can
get
an
idea
as
to
the
size.
So
this
is
would
be
about
51.4
feet.
You
might
have
seen
me
tape
off
this
building,
while
this
evening
the
width
of
this
room
is
about
51.51
or
so
feet.
V
The
height
of
that
sign
would
be
11
and
a
half
feet
and
I'm
probably
going
to
bend
my
ruler
here,
but
there
we
go
so
I
can't
even
get
it.
Imagine
somebody
who's
about.
Maybe
six
foot,
seven
standing
on
my
shoulders
and
that's
how
high
it
would
be.
The
fact
of
the
matter
is
you
weren't
told
how
big
this
time
would
be,
because
they
only
gave
you
the
area
of
the
sign.
V
Here's,
the
here's,
the
building
on
the
freeway.
The
other
thing
that
you
were
not
told
is
that
it
would
directly
face
residents.
You
have
now
heard
from
maybe
a
dozen
or
so
of
these
residents,
some
who
are
worried
about
their
children
because
they
would
be
subject
to
the
illumination
until
11
o'clock
at
night.
Many
of
these
residents
do
not
have
English
as
their
first
language.
Many
of
them
are
renters.
Many
of
them
aren't
even
voters.
They
don't
think
they
have
a
voice,
so
I'm
hoping
to
speak
for
them.
W
Hello
mayor
members
of
the
city
council,
my
name
is
Neil
Park,
mcclintic
I'm,
a
Cupertino
resident
and
also
the
president
of
Cupertino
for
all
I
grew
up
here
as
a
child,
a
teenager
and
now
an
adult.
This
community
means
a
lot
to
me
and
because
of
this
I
believe
we
are
home
to
some
of
the
brightest
and
most
compassionate
Minds
in
the
state.
W
Unfortunately,
we
are
also
still
recovering
from
prior
leadership
mistakes
that
have
greatly
damaged
our
reputation,
including
the
past
actions
of
planning,
commissioner
R
Wong,
and
that
is
why
I'm
here
today
to
voice
my
strong
support
for
the
removal
of
planning.
Commissioner
R
Wong
I
just
want
to
share
that
when
I
came
up
here
to
decide
to
whether
or
not
to
speak,
to
call
accountability
for
this
planning.
W
W
Community
members
should
not
be
scared
to
speak
up
for
fear
that
they
might
be
personally
attacked,
that
their
livelihood
might
be
damaged
and
I
want
that
to
just
sit
in
the
minds
of
council
members
today,
because
this
is
someone
who
has
been
in
one
of
the
highest
positions
of
power
in
the
city
for
years.
Residents
have
come
and
spoken
up
demanded
action
and
nothing
has
been
done
for
Cupertino
and
our
democracy
to
truly
move
forward,
to
be
open
to
be
fair,
where
all
voices
feel
valued
and
respected.
W
W
W
Commissioner
Wong
also
spreads
rampant
misinformation,
for
example,
when
the
city
sought
to
fix
a
density
bonus
ordinance
to
comply
with
state
law.
He
compared
it
to
the
freed
and
Democratic
elections
in
the
Soviet
Union.
He
also
said
that
homelessness
was
a
conspiracy
that
was
manufactured
by
some
individuals.
This
is
not
someone
who
should
be
on
the
most
powerful
bodies
in
Cupertino,
let
alone
making
decisions
about
housing.
W
B
Thank
you
Neil
and
mayor.
As
I
mentioned
earlier.
As
per
the
new
Council
handbook
rules,
moral
Communications
is
limited
to
30
minutes.
Unless
the
council
wishes
to
choose
to
extend
it
past
30
minutes
remove
the
remaining
speakers
to
the
end
of
the
agenda.
We
are
we've,
We've
21
minutes
have
have
elapsed
and
we
have
eight
speakers
on
Zoom.
So
that
would
be
an
additional
24
minutes
was.
P
B
X
Hi
can
can
you
hear
me
yes,
hi
good
evening
my
name
is
Vanessa
techmansky
I'm,
a
30-year
Cupertino
resident
I
wanted
to
voice
my
disappointment
with
the
February
7th
Council
vote
to
allow
the
600
square
foot
non-conforming
bright
orange.
Illuminated
Public
Storage
sign
it's
three
times
over
our
City's
200
square
foot
limit
and
it's
on
Scenic,
280.,
I
I
think
that
the
measurements
given
were
just
of
the
letters
not
the
whole
sign.
The
letters
are
200
square
feet.
I
think
the
whole
sign
is
600
square
feet.
X
If
I
I
understand
correctly
I
know
the
mayor
said:
the
council's
hands
were
tied
in
this
approval
and
I'm,
not
quite
sure
why
that
would
be.
X
Was
Council
made
aware
of
the
actual
size
of
the
sign
or
that
they
didn't
even
have
to
vote
for
one
of
the
two
sign
options
or
that
the
self
storage
bill
building
was
rejected.
The
first
time
around
for
non-compliance
with
our
general
plan
and
then
later
approved
with
the
understanding
that
both
the
building
and
signage
needed
to
be
compatible
with
the
aesthetic
character
of
the
surrounding
area,
and
it
should
be
designed
to
protect
residents
from
light
and
Visually
intrusive
effects.
X
That
was
the
agreement
now
they've
come
back
with
this
huge
sign
down
the
road.
There's!
No
other
signage
like
this
along
our
City's
Frontage
of
280.
I
know
the
Cupertino.
Hotel
has
signage,
but
it's
a
lot
smaller.
It's
dimmer.
It's
separated
by
an
island
with
trees,
an
on-ramp,
a
freeway
overpass
from
the
south
and
additional
roads
and
trees
next
to
Hotel.
So
you
know
it's
pretty
tasteful
and
not
visible
to
the
Neighbors
at
all.
X
So,
but
the
proposed
self-storage
sign
I
say
that
is
really
an
injustice
to
the
people
who
live
in
the
development
straight
across
the
freeway,
because
they're
going
to
have
to
look
at
those
glaring
orange
lights
in
their
windows
at
night,
not
to
mention
it's
just
ugly
I
mean
the
building's
ugly
as
it
is
I've
driven
by
it
a
couple
times
at
night
and
it
just
doesn't
fit
in.
Why
are
we
going
to
make
this
worse?
X
X
Finally,
I
wanted
to
council
to
consider
that
by
allowing
this
huge
bright
sign
that
they're
setting
a
precedent
for
another
upcoming
development
with
a
sizable
amount
of
freeway
Frontage
as
well
and
I,
can
just
see
we're
talking
about
Valco
I
can
just
see
valco's
glaring,
Office,
Park
and
apartment
rental
signs
now,
so
please
don't
allow
the
Self
Storage
sign
it's
really
out
of
character
for
our
city.
Thank
you.
B
J
Good
evening,
star,
council
members
and
staff
first,
these
attacks
on
commissioner
Wang
are
very
politically
timed
with
a
political
agenda.
This
is
a
coordinated
attack,
as
you
can
see,
they
all
showed
up
tonight.
Their
plan
change
the
majority
of
the
plant
Planning
Commission.
This
gets
the
further
agenda.
J
This
is
another
step
to
remove,
destroy
anything
the
previous
Council
has
accomplished.
Mr
Wang
is
very
knowledgeable
understanding
and
very
familiar
with
our
codes.
It's
a
political
attack
ignore
it
second
informational
item,
13,
Main,
Street
square
footage.
I
want
to
thank
John
martir
for
taking
time
to
speak
with
me
today
regarding
Main
Street
gian's
update
does
not
mention
that
an
application
has
been
submitted
by
the
property
owner
requesting
a
change
to
the
restaurant
percentage,
so
they
can
put
entertainment,
not
retail,
where
the
old
Target
Express
was
located.
J
As
a
result
of
this
request,
the
conditions
of
approval,
parking
and
traffic
analysis
is
being
finished
supposed
to
include
traffic
too,
but
it's
not
clear
it
will.
After
this
traffic
analysis,
an
addendum
to
the
eir
will
be
done,
but
the
public
has
no
input.
This
eir
should
include
the
Valco
SB
35
project.
The
two
apple
buildings
near
Lawrence
and
any
proposed
development
nearby-
it's
not
clear
that
it
will.
J
The
public
will
not
be
notified
of
any
of
this
until
the
change
in
use
permit
is
brought
to
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
city
council
for
those
living
in
the
metropolitan
or
within
300
feet
of
the
property
line.
You
will
be
notified
when
this
comes
to
them.
I
suggest
that
all
of
those
interested
in
this
development
contact
City
staff
periodically
to
find
out
what's
going
on,
don't
wait
for
this
notice
and
as
a
informational
item,
12
monthly
treasurer's
report
for
December
2022.
J
The
monthly
treasurer's
report
is
required
by
law
to
be
sent
to
the
city
clerk
and
the
city
council
regularly.
Every
month
the
city
has
just
become
compliant
last
year,
but
in
the
recent
months
it
appears
to
me
that
the
city
is
no
longer
compliant.
I
have
two
questions:
is
the
city
no
longer
compliant
with
this
law?
I?
Don't
have
proof
that
it
is
what
is
the
city
doing
to
fix
this?
J
B
Y
Hi
good
evening
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
first
of
all,
I
just
want
to
say:
I
am
not
I'm
very
displeased
to
add
the
procedural
manual
and
I
mean
from
a
Public's
perspective.
It
really
looks
like
there's
strategically
coordinated
efforts
to
cut
the
public
out
of
the
governance
of
the
city
and
with
it
it
seems
to
be
with
an
agenda.
First,
we
cut
the
comments.
Y
Some
Connie
couldn't
speak
on
an
item
because
it's
no
longer
being
spoken
on
the
response
for
the
grand
jury,
civil
grand
jury,
Etc
so
fast
and
number
one
I
really
urge
you.
This
is
a
comment
to
change
it
in
the
next
time.
It's
reviewed,
second
I,
couldn't
believe
the
coordinated
effort
against
a
commissioner
Wang
I'm.
So,
first
of
all
he's
a
public
official,
the
gentleman
that
spoke
previously,
he
is
aware
of
freedom
of
speech
and
I've,
seen
worse
rants
from
other
people
on
on
next
door
and
elsewhere.
Y
There's
freedom
of
speech,
but
what
he
said
tonight
is
possibly
and
the
other
gentleman
libel
and
defamation,
because
a
sexual
harassment
never
occurred,
and
that
was
supposed
to
be
a
sealed
settlement
with
when
you
make
a
settlement
and
the
people
that
know
this
and
are
are
familiar
with
attorney
and
law,
as
at
least
one
member,
their
their
Council.
Y
That
should
have
been
sealed
and
that
should
have
not
been
disclosed
and
now
it's
being
used
against
him
20
years
later.
It's
it's!
It's
unbelievable.
The
coordinated
effort
is
really
obvious
that
it
seems
at
least
to
some
of
us
as
a
coordinated
effort
to
remove
from
Planning
Commission
I
mean
what
a
coincidence
right,
considering
Valco
and
whatever
everything
else
that's
happening.
Y
The
next
thing
was
last
week,
the
grand
civil,
the
response,
one
of
the
speakers,
suggested
that
you
not
make
any
Corrections
or
that
you
say
that
you're
in
disagreement
with
it,
as
if
the
truth
did
not
matter.
I
was
appalled
and
were
you
know
as
a
world
doing
the
ethics
course
and
you're
all
obligated
to
uphold
Affair
and
truth,
and
this
response
should
reflect
that.
We
they
deserve
that
it.
What?
Y
Y
B
Z
Z
However,
I
believe
that
this
work
will
be
incomplete
without
addressing
an
oversight
made
by
the
previous
Council.
Several
speakers
have
already
addressed
the
serious
breaches
made
by
planning
commissioner
R
Wong,
which
the
prior
Council
failed
to
take.
Action
on
I
am
asking
that
the
current
Council
correct
this
and
remove
our
Wong
from
the
Planning
Commission
I.
Don't
think
I
have
much
to
add
substantively
I
think
many
of
the
the
points
why
I
believe
this
have
already
been
made,
but
I
would
add
that
I
I
dispute
the
allegation
that
this
is
politically
motivated.
Z
I
personally
have
major
policy
disagreements
with
several
members
of
the
Planning
Commission,
but
I
believe
that
the
attacks
that
Mr
Wong
makes
against
public
participation
go
beyond
simple
disagreements.
I
think
that
this
is
this
is
more.
This
is
about
standing
up
for
for
kindness
and
about
doing
the
right
thing
and
holding
people
accountable.
I
urge
the
council
to
take
prompt
action
on
this.
Thank
you.
B
AA
AA
AA
AA
So
please
can
we
consider
removing
this
person
and
replacing
him
with
someone
that
is
more
respective
respectful
of
all
residents,
not
just
those
that
agree
with
him
her
or
them.
Instead,
let's
work
together
to
make
Cupertino
the
best
it
can
be
based
on
the
wonderful
diversity
of
opinions
we
have.
We
don't
have
to
agree
on
everything,
but
we
must
work
together
and
not
against
each
other.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
AB
Good
evening,
mayor
Wade
and
council
members,
I
apologize
I
have
a
bit
of
a
cold,
so
I'm
speaking
tonight
as
a
resident
of
Cupertino.
Only
though
there
are
many
items
in
the
grand
jury
report
that
are
a
great
cause
of
concern
and
require
attention,
I
specifically
wish
to
speak
on
two
issues.
AB
I
am
concerned
by
the
rhetoric
that
I
keep
hearing
from
two
of
our
council
members
and
some
speakers
about
how
the
grand
jury
report
is
just
opinion,
ignoring
that
the
witnesses
must
State
the
truth
and
that
the
report
should
be
ignored
as
it's
wrong.
We
need
to
accept
what
the
report
says,
including
quote:
a
careful
review
of
several
recorded
City
Council
meetings,
confirm
the
existence
of
adversarial
and
dysfunctional
Behavior
towards
City
staff
exhibited
by
some
city
council
members.
AB
Second,
I
continue
to
be
concerned
about
the
lack
of
mechanism
for
reporting
and
enforcement
of
the
quote
of
ethics
for
council
members.
In
the
report,
the
only
mechanism
noted
by
the
staff
or
ethics
concerns
for
Council
Members
is
quote:
council
members
answer
to
voters
if
behavior
and
conduct
is
unacceptable,
pretty
much.
That
leaves
us
with
no
recourse
other
than
to
complain
at
oral
communication.
AB
I
had
not
planned
to
talk
about
this,
but
I
also
want
to
agree
with
what
some
previous
speakers
said
about.
Commissioner
Wing
I.
Personally,
my
own
person
have
received
attacks
on
social
media,
including
receiving
a
lawsuit
threat
and
a
direct
message
from
him.
I
do
have
screenshots
of
these,
as
I
mentioned
at
a
previous
meeting.
I
did
not
find
the
ethics
code
online
and
was
not
able
to
do
anything
about
it.
Knowing
he
had
been
reappointed
recently
and
was
popular
with
the
previous
Council,
it's
not
political.
AB
It's
not
political!
It's
a
pattern
of
unethical
Behavior
by
a
sitting,
commissioner,
that
should
have
been
addressed
previously
and
wasn't.
I
asked
like
the
previous
speakers
who
I
just
heard
tonight
that
you
do
something
about
it.
Thank
you
for
considering
these
concerns
and
for
your
work
on
behalf
of
Cupertino.
AC
Giving
me
away
and
city
council
I
would
like
to
request
you
to
please
reconsider
the
approval
of
the
signage
for
I-280.
The
signage
is
going
to
be
an
eyesore
for
the
community.
It
is
a
distraction
for
driving.
As
you
know,
the
junction
around
280
and
85
is
already
prone
to
accidents
due
to
merging
that
happens,
as
automotives
are
trying
to
exit
85
exit,
280
or
85.,
and
that
area
has
seen
several
accidents,
especially
during
peak
hour
as
we
go
into
winter
hours.
AC
AC
The
sign
ordinance
talks,
specifically
about
being
in
keeping
with
the
surrounding
homes
and
Landscaping
that
signage
will
not
be
in
keeping
with
the
surrounding
homes
and
Landscaping.
The
Stein
ordinance
talks
about
not
producing
distractions,
to
motorists
or
nearby
residents,
and
this
will
do
exactly
the
opposite.
AC
AC
T
Hello,
mayor
and
members
of
the
city
council,
my
name
is
Phillip
and
I
am
a
Community
member
of
Cupertino.
This
community
means
a
lot
to
me
because
I've
gone
to
high
school
as
well
as
Community,
College
here
and
I,
believe
we
are
home
to
some
of
the
brightest
and
most
compassionate
Minds
in
California.
Unfortunately,
we
are
still
recovering
from
our
leadership
that
has
greatly
damaged
cupertino's
reputation,
including
the
past
actions
of
funding,
commissioner
R
Wong.
T
That
is
why
I'm
here
today
to
voice
my
strong
support
for
the
removal
of
planning.
Commissioner
R
Wong
Cupertino
is
a
beacon
of
excellence
and
a
role
model
for
other
cities
to
follow.
With
a
now
strong
and
diversity,
Council
and
excellent
City
staff.
We
are
home
to
some
of
the
brightest,
the
most
passionate
Minds
in
California,
but
again
I
wish
to
moisten
my
support
for
the
removal
of
planning.
Commissioner
R1
community
members
have
a
right
to
voice
their
concerns
with
their
representatives.
T
Unfortunately,
leaders
like
commissioner
Wong
have
created
a
culture
of
fear
and
intimidation
and
a
culture
of
threats
because
of
their
past.
Harassment
of
community
members,
as
well
as
housing
and
homelessness,
is
the
top
issue
in
the
minds
of
libertino
residents.
T
As
a
planning,
commissioner,
Wong
has
a
unique
opportunity
to
promote
solutions
to
end
homelessness,
but
instead
he
downplays
the
reality
of
the
housing
crisis
and
he
mentions
quote
just
we
don't
have
a
housing
problem.
We
have
a
manufactured
homeless,
homelessness
crisis
sponsored
by
some
individual
end,
quote
I,
believe
in
Cupertino
and
its
future,
and
that's
why
I'm,
here
speaking
more
democracy
and
for
ethical
and
kind
leadership,
it's
past
time
for
Council
to
hold
Community.
T
Commissioner,
when
accountable,
please
honor
the
lived
experiences
of
those
who
have
personally
harmed
by
Mr
Wong
and
do
the
right
thing.
Please
honor
the
intelligence
character
of
our
good
residents,
who
deserve
a
genuine
trust
in
our
officials,
so
yeah
it's
time
to
bring
dignity
back
to
Cupertino.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
G
If
I'm
a
mayor-
yes
Mr,
City
attorney,
if
you
can
clarify
of
The
Limited
responses
that
we
may
make
to
oral
Communications
I,
believe
that
one
of
them
is
to
agenda
as
a
matter
for
further
discussion
in
the
future.
Is
that
not
correct.
N
A
See
attorney
Jensen.
We
do
need
a
second
for
that
right.
N
O
Oh
Mary
I'd
like
to
add
this
to
the
Future
agenda
as
well:
okay,.
A
So
your
second
question,
okay,
so
it's
moved
in
second
we're
going
to
add
it
to
the
second
agenda.
Okay,
so
this
concludes
oral
Communications
I'd
like
to
move
the
consent
agenda,
counseling
calendar,
which
is
items
from
four
to
nine
city
manager.
Do
we
have
any
port
items.
D
Yes,
mere
way,
I
believe
item
five
and
item.
Six
are
pulled:
okay,
bye
by
council,
member
chow
and
council
member
more
okay.
A
Okay,
so
do
we
have
if
we
don't
have
other
items
being
pulled,
may
I
have
a
motion
to
approve
and
the
number
four
seven,
eight
and
nine
on
the
counseling
calendar.
A
N
Me
I'm
sorry,
so
we
do
need
to
allow
for
public
comment
on
the
consent
calendar
before.
B
A
So
please
proceed.
B
Okay,
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
start
on
Zoom
with
Karthik
Jane,
followed
by
Ian
greensides
and
a
reminder
to.
Please
have
your
hand
raised
or
your
speaker
card
submitted
in
the
first
nine
minutes
think
welcome.
Karthik.
AD
B
Actually,
the
the
the
opportunity
to
speak
about
an
item
not
on
the
agenda
would
have
been
under
oral
Communications.
So.
AD
I
do
believe:
I
submitted
my
my
hand
within
nine
minutes,
but
I
was
actually
on
the
phone
and
so
I
had
to
switch
on
Zoom
Yes.
B
Actually,
your
hand
was
not
raised
in
the
first
nine
minutes.
I
did
track
that
carefully.
E
B
AE
B
AE
AE
AE
A
N
A
Was
so
we
will
have
puppy
comment.
M
Yes,
we
come
to
that
I
requested
of
one
of
the
city
council
members
today
to
pull
items
from
the
consent
calendar
as.
A
A
A
A
O
A
A
T
N
Items
five
and
six
were
pulled
from
the
consent
calendar.
When
they're
heard
by
Council,
there
will
be
an
opportunity
to
provide
public
comment
on
those
items.
A
And
we'll
move
to
action,
number
11.
number
10,
which
is
consider
approval
of
response.
B
A
C
C
So
City
attorney,
could
you
please
clarify
so
the
old
procedure
is
the
pulled
item
will
be
right
after
consent.
That's
when
the
public
will
speak
on
those
consent
items,
but
the
new
procedure.
Those
items
are
not
right
after
consent.
I
think
this
is
where
the
confusion
cap
comes
from.
Yeah.
N
That's
a
good
point
councilmember,
so
so
that
those
items
will
be
heard
after
the
action
calendar.
A
Okay,
so
let's
vote
on
the
accounts
encounter
four
seven,
eight
and
nine.