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From YouTube: Cupertino City Council Meeting - June 21, 2022 (Part 2)
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Coverage of the Tuesday, June 21, 2022 Cupertino City Council Meeting (Part 2 of 2)
A
B
Yes,
vice
mayor,
I
do
have
a
presentation,
a
brief
presentation
to
share
with
council.
Oh
let's
see,
let's
just
make
sure,
can
you
see
my
screen.
B
Okay,
so
the
brush
abatement
program
is
different
than
the
cupertino
weed
abatement
program.
It
is
managed
in
tandem
with
the
santa
clara
county
fire
department.
Wildfires
are
a
growing
community
problem.
They
present
a
danger
to
people
and
properties
within
the
city
of
cupertino
and
county
fire.
Has
the
authority
and
responsibility
to
provide
for
life,
safety
and
protection
of
property
city
code?
Section
16.40.200
requires
homeowners
to
maintain
a
defensible
space
by
removing
brush
and
flammable
vegetation
and
combustible
growth
due
to
steepness
of
terrain
and
other
conditions.
B
B
B
On
april
1st
property
inspections
began,
properties
determined
to
be
out
of
compliance
received,
a
notification
left
at
the
residence
and
a
follow-up
letter
was
also
mailed
to
the
property
owner
on
may
24
and
26
property
reinspections
took
place
for
properties
that
were
out
of
compliance
at
the
time
of
the
first
inspection
and
on
june
9
properties
that
were
still
out
of
compliance
after
the
second
inspection
were
mailed.
A
public
hearing
notice
for
today's
hearing.
B
The
action
before
this
evening
is
to
conduct
the
public
hearing
for
for
objections
by
property
owners
added
to
the
list
of
properties
that
are
non-compliant
in
removing
brush
and
to
adopt
resolution
22-077
ordering
the
abatement
of
such
public
nuisance
and
potential
fire
hazard
and
county
fire
deputy
chief
hector
estrada
is
available
for
any
questions
that
you
might
have.
And
that
concludes
my
presentation.
A
C
Hi,
yes,
my
name
is
jim
tyson
and
I
am
calling
on
behalf
of
my
parents
who
have
lived
in
calif
in
cupertino
since
1968.
they
are
elderly
in
their
late
80s.
Right
now,
my
father
has
dementia
and
my
mother
has
been
challenged
with
the
technology
lately
and
therefore
was
not
able
to
navigate
a
zoom
call
like
this.
C
So
I
am
calling
on
her
behalf.
I
just
found
out
about
this
today
and
that's
part
of
the
story
that
the
fact
that
they're,
not
quite
at
their
prime,
led
them
to
not
really
know
what
was
happening
on
this
topic
up
until
this
last
week
when
they
got
a
notice
and
they
were
confused
about
the
notice
and
tried
to
seek
help
and
found
out
that
the
only
way
they
could
avoid.
C
B
Hey
vice
mayor,
I
do
see
deputy
chief
estrada
shaking
his
head
nodding,
his
head
yeah.
A
D
Yes,
I
do
actually,
I
wanted
to
first
thank
the
council
for
allowing
me
an
opportunity
to
come
here
and
work
with
members
of
the
public
in
order
to
resolve
the
extreme
fire
risk
we
have
in
our
neighborhood.
As
far
as
the
process,
sir,
is
the
last
three
digits
of
that
address:
nine,
nine
five,
two
nine
two.
Yes,
sir,
I
was
in
contact,
I
believe,
I'm
not
sure
if
it
was
sister
or
my.
D
Great
okay,
I
spoke
with
her
last
week.
I
explained
to
her
what
she
needed
to
do.
It
looks
like
she
made
progress
on
that.
I
told
her
as
long
as
we
had
a
game
plan,
then
we
would
be
able
to
basically
set
things
in
motion
so
that
we
can
get
this
resolution,
understanding
that
you
have
for
your
parents
significant
challenge,
but
we
definitely
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
working
with
them.
D
So
if
I
could
just
get,
we
can
work
offline,
I'm
aware
of
your
property
and
the
situation
it
sounds
like
progress
has
been
made.
I
did
send
an
email
back
to
your
sister
today
with
specific
guidelines
for
the
contractor
and
based
on
what
you
just
said
this
evening.
The
fact
that
you
can
have
it
resolved
this
week.
I
think,
there's
an
opportunity
for
us
to
figure
out
a
solution
that
will
work
for
both
sides
and
get
that
property
to
the
point
where
it
needs
to
be.
D
So
if
you
can
contact
me
either
by
phone
or
email
or
I'll
email
you,
then
we
could
get
the
time
set
up
for
that
work
to
be
done,
and
I
can
have
someone
there
the
following
day
to
verify
it
so
that
we
can
get
this
result.
Does
that
sound
agreeable
to
you?
That
sounds
great
excellent,
then,
if,
let's
see
I
will
send
your
sister
another
email
asking
for
your
contact
information
and
if
you
can
call
me
tomorrow
morning
or
send
me
an
email
in
the
morning,
we
can
touch.
D
Great
thank
you
and
for
the
record,
we're
going
to
work
on
a
resolution
for
that
the
property
will
remain
on
the
list,
but
I
think
that
we
can
get
it
resolved.
It
won't
be
forwarded
as
long
as
we
can
hit
that
milestone
date
of
friday.
A
A
A
Okay
and
then
well
there,
I
think,
for
the
weed
abatement,
a
property
will
remain
on
the
list.
Once
it's
on
the
list,
it
will
remain
for
three
years.
Does
that
not
apply
here?
That.
D
Does
not
apply
here
so
the
process
essentially,
is
that
if
it
is
sent
to
the
county,
we
need
to
approve
contractor
it
at
that
point
becomes
on
a
watch
list
or
it
remains
on
the
list
for
three
years.
The
fact
that
it's
not
referred
over
would
keep
it
off
of
that
list,
and
it
won't
be
subject
to
that
extra
script.
Next
few
years.
E
A
D
The
a
fee
schedule
is
included
in
the
attachment
believe
it
is
all
right.
D
That's
the
follow-up
letter,
so
follow-up
letter
to
non-compliant
owner.
So
there
there
are
a
couple
of
levels
of
administrative
fee
that
are
packed
on
the
time.
Frames
are
important
here.
The
initial
referral
would
subject
the
property
owner
to
a
505
processing
fee
when
the
property
is
referred
over,
that
trigger
is
hit,
so
it
does
require
the
property
owner
to
act
quickly
and
to
come
up
with
a
plan
to
get
the
property
in
shape
and
all
the
mitigations
in
place.
D
There
is
a
time
frame,
and
at
this
point
I
would
say
the
best
and
most
appropriate
act
would
be
to
contact
the
county
of
santa
clara
weed
abatement
program.
We
establish
the
beginning
and
the
end
of
the
season
for
inspection.
We
initiate
the
inspections
and
we
work
with
the
residents
to
try
to
get
that
abatement
done.
We
try
to
provide
guidance
and
then,
as
we
move
forward
the
deadline
for
this
and
the
referral
is
essentially
today.
D
So
with
this
hearing,
the
designation
that
the
properties
represent
a
hazard
is
when
we
actually
release
it.
We
create
the
list
and
we
forward
it.
It's
through
this
resolution
and
the
acceptance
of
the
resolution
that
this
action
has
taken,
and
so
from
that
point
we
can
still
help
people
and
we
can
still
verify
that
the
properties
are
either
satisfying
requirements
or
they
are
still
in
violation,
or
they
still
have
some
issues
at
that
point,
we're
always
going
to
be
here
for
our
residents,
but
at
that
point
it
becomes
another.
D
It
becomes
a
county
jurisdiction
for
this
actual
statement.
There
are
a
number
of
steps
and
those
are
taken
in
conjunction
with
the
city.
So
if
there
is
some
time
before
that
process
starts
happening,
and
by
time
I
mean
a
couple
of
weeks
roughly,
but
I
would
say
the
the
best
option
here
would
be
once
it's
referred.
The
weed
abatement
program
department
would
be
where
they
would
be
working
with
the
resident
too.
Their
goal
is
not
to
find
people
and
to
bring
hardship
upon
the
citizens.
D
So
the
at
that
point,
if
there
are
options
that
either
are
at
the
city
level
or
at
the
county
level,
those
would
be
things
that
they
could
be
asking
for.
A
D
In
these
situations,
it's
very
important
that
a
a
couple
who
may
not
have
the
mobility
or
there
may
be
other
barriers
that
the
property
is
safe.
Those
types
of
things
they
kind
of
complicate
things.
You
know
we
do
want
to
have
a
heart.
We
do
want
to
help,
but
we
also
need
to
make
sure
that
our
all
of
our
citizens
are
safe
are
safe.
F
Okay,
well,
I
really
appreciate
what
you're
doing
deputy
estrada
to
to
help
the
the
homeowner
to
my
understanding.
We
had
three
three
properties
that
had
violations
and
it
seemed
like
they
were
in
a
similar
area
or
perhaps
on
the
same
street.
F
F
D
Viewed
them
as
well
and
we've
been
throughout
the
area,
and
I've
had
inspectors
out
there
so
yeah
they
are
on
the
same
street.
Two
of
them
actually
are
adjacent
and
they
do
represent
a
significant
slope
in
some
areas
and
then
the
amount
of
biomass
that
there
is
is
also
pretty
significant.
Okay,.
F
And-
and
this
is
to
essentially
protect
the
home
so
that
in
case
there
is
a
fire
in
the
area
so
yeah
it
makes
it
makes
perfect
sense.
I
I
don't
know
if
you
would
like
vice
mayor
for
to
for
us
to
make
a
motion
at
this
point
for
discussion
purposes.
E
F
So
we
we
have
well
you'll
need
to
close
public
comment.
I
believe
you.
A
Went
to
the
public
okay!
So
do
we
have
any
blue
cards
or
written
email.
F
Okay,
so
we've
conducted
the
the
hearing,
so
the
recommended
action
is
that
we
conduct
the
brush
abatement
program,
hearing
to
note
objections
of
property
owners
having
their
name
on
the
list
of
properties
that
have
been
non-compliant
in
removing
brush.
That's
been
conducted
and
two
that
we
adopt
resolution
22-077,
ordering
abatement
of
public
nuisance
and
potential
fire
hazard
pursuant
to
cupertino
municipal
code,
section
16.40.200
regarding
defensible
space
and
resolution
number
22-055,
which
is
attachment
a
right.
A
And
send
your
way.
Thank
you.
Council
member
willie
has
his
hand
up,
and
I
think
we
also
received
an
email
from
sedas
statute.
She
is
exactly
the
same
situation
as
the
other
commenter
that
she
is
the
children
of
elderly
parents
who
are
in
their
late
80s
the
same
and
then
are
they.
Are
they
even
the
same
family?
I'm
not
sure,
because
the
father
also
has
dementia,
and
this
is
the
same
family,
because
it's
a
different
last
name.
A
I
don't
have
the
address.
I
think
we
all
received
an
email
right
set
us
up
on.
What's
their
address.
A
G
Councilman
moore
asked
the
exact
same
question
now.
That
was
the
reason
for
my
raising
the
hand
that
the
list
had
three
and
one
was
there.
I'll
just
add
an
additional
comment.
You
know,
because
it's
I
feel
it's
important,
that
that
the
community
kind
of
see
what
our
individual
thoughts
are
and
on
weed
abatement
or
the
fire
hazard
abatement.
G
I
definitely
want
to
support
our
res
that
are
willing
to
to
come
and
demonstrate
that
they're
going
to
make
their
properties
compliant
and
with
that
said,
I
would
want
to
do
everything
I
can
to
help
them
make
that
happen
as
opposed
to
the
wheat
abatement
process,
where
they
then
get
put
on
a
list
for
three
years
and
every
year
they
get
charged
of
e.
For
that,
I
think
you
know
things
do
happen
in
life
and
brush
doesn't
stop
growing.
It
continues
to
grow.
G
Okay,
if
it's
just
you
know
not
realize
that
it's
at
a
fire
hazard
point
and
it's
brought
up
to
them.
They
come
to
the
city
council
and,
and
they
work
with
the
the
fire
department
and
resolve
the
issue,
I'm
I'm
definitely
in
favor
of
of
that
win-win
situation.
G
So
great
to
hear
if
the
third
house
on
that
list
is
not
here
tonight
is
not
working
with
the
fire
department,
then
I
am
okay
with
the
fire
department
proceeding
with
their
standard
process,
which
you
know,
take
care
of
the
fire
hazard
if
it's
not
resolved
within
whatever
they're.
Yes,
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
That's
my
comment.
Thank
you.
Vice
mayor.
H
Thank
you
vice
mayor.
I
really
want
to
thank,
I
think,
deb
and
jen
for
taking
care
of
your
elder
parents,
because
I
have
a
90
year
old
mom
who
lives
alone,
and
I
do
the
mo
you
know
I
would
love
long
small
for
for
them
for
her
and
thank
deputy
chief
estrada
for
taking
care
of
our
residents
and
the
service
is
really
wonderful.
So
that's
just
my
comment.
Thank
you.
A
E
E
D
Ahead,
the
the
properties
of
the
initial-
if
you
look
at
the
thailand
timeline,
actually
start
at
the
end
of
february.
So
from
march
the
initial
notifications
that
went
out
they
do
detail
what
it
is.
What
defensible
space
is.
There
are
links
and
there's
information
there
and
what
they're
supposed
to
do
and
then
there's
a
info
card
as
well,
and
a
qr
code
is
what
we
introduced
this
year
to
make
it
easy.
So
it
offered
the
several
options.
D
They
were
to
do
the
work
yourself.
They
offered
the
education
necessary
through
either
firewise
or
file
fire,
even
our
own
resources
on
our
on
our
website,
so
that
it
would
be
clear,
but
it
was
defensible.
Space
is
defined.
As
for
this
group
of
homes
30
feet
around
the
property,
it
doesn't
mean
a
moonscape
with
no
vegetation
that
just
means.
If
it's
green
and
certain
it's
it's
manicured,
it's
safe,
so
it
tells
them.
What
is
necessary
is
proper
information
and
it
allows
essentially
from
the
entire
month
of
march,
to
start
working
on
it.
D
There
is
also
an
option
to
have
the
person
hire
a
contractor
with
themselves
or
there's
even
the
option
to
go
through
this
route
and
by
and
voluntarily
have
a
have,
a
county
approved
contractor
to
the
work,
which
is
not
necessarily
one
that
we
we
try
to
push
people
towards,
but
it
is
an
option.
So
there
are
a
number
of
ways
that
they
can,
that
they
can
do
this.
D
The
next
is
april.
1St
is
another
milestone
date
for
us
so
april.
1St
is
when
we
actually
want
the
response
so
for
the.
If
you're
going
to
do
the
work
yourself
or
if
you're
going
to
hire
someone
those
time
frames.
D
Basically,
you
have
a
month
just
respond
to
tell
us
what
your
plan
is
or
you
can
even
request
to
have
an
inspector
come
out
and
look
at
your
property
and
those
could
either
be
done
through
mail
and
for
qr
code,
but
we
had
quite
a
few
that
opted
to
do
qr
code
that
made
it
a
lot
easier
this
year
for
a
lot,
and
then
we
were
able
to
switch
over
to
electronic
information
notification,
email
and
faster
ways
of
communicating
april.
1St
also
marks
the
date
where
our
fire
crews
went
out.
D
So,
in
addition
actually
having
people
self-report,
we
had
fire
crews
that
go
out
and
they
go
through
neighborhoods
and
they
basically
use
essentially
an
ipad
to
look
at
every
site
document.
What
they
see
take
photos
and
put
it
into
the
system,
and
then
that
generates
a
report
that
goes
back
to
the
customer
or
to
the
resident.
D
That
says
you
have
these
conditions
that
need
to
be
met,
so
we
captured
the
information
and
then
we
sent
it
back.
That
was
the
first.
That
was
the
second
notification
that
they
received
because
of
the
time
frames
those
those
follow-up
inspections
that
were
necessary.
D
They
started
right
around
mid-may,
and
then
we
started
sending
our
our
own
fire
prevention
staff
out
to
those
sites
to
verify
that
the
violation,
notices
or
the
notices
of
violation
that
we
get
sent
out
via
email
and
usps
had
been
received.
An
action
not
and
our
folks
actually
made
contact
with
the
resident,
so
that
was
mid-may,
and
then
we
had
from
the
very
start
june
1st
as
the
deadline
to
do
your
work.
D
There
was
actually
a
bit
of
grace
in
that
we
didn't
create
the
final
list
until
june
10th,
so
people
were
notified.
They
were
notified
on
three
occasions
and
it
was
escalating.
We
ran
all
of
our
paperwork
through
because
we
had
a
new
process
that
was
going
from
manual
to
digital
on
ipad.
D
So
we
try
very
hard
to
make
sure
that
people
are
are
communicated
communicated
with
and
anyone
that
was
working
with
us,
we're
working
with
them.
D
The
the
folks
that
are
here
and
on
this
list,
unfortunately,
are
those
for
some
reason
that
just
didn't
respond
and
they
were
inspected
and
the
properties
were
were
really.
The
conditions
were
such
that
we
couldn't.
We
couldn't
ignore
them.
So
I
hope
that
answers
your
question.
I
know
it
was
pretty
comprehensive,
but
we
tried
for
a.
We
tried
on
multiple
iterations
to
make
a
positive
contact,
be
very
clear.
Offer
assistance
clarity
and
offer
a
hand.
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
much.
I
guess
on
the
slide,
has
inspection
schedule,
but
there
was
no
notification
schedule.
So
it's
good
to
know
that
the
first
notification
went
out
late
february
to
all
property
owners,
but
that
doesn't
mean
they
violated
anything
so
that,
but
the
second
notification
which
is
in
march,
is
the
first
time
they
will
receive
a
notice
that
they
likely
should
have
a
clean
up
right,
and
so
you,
you
also
mention
email.
So
you
send
both
a
letter
and
the
email
to
those
who
have
a
violation.
A
Okay,
and
so,
if,
if
any
folks,
for
example,
children
taking
care
of
seniors,
how
do
they
register
their
email
with
you
so
that
they
can
get
notification
in
the
future?
Maybe
their
priorities
are
not
on
the
list
each
this
year,
maybe
next
year.
So
how
do
they
get
their
their
contact
information
and
how
do
they
update
them?.
D
So
we
actually
have
like
I
said
we
went
to
a
from
a
manual
process,
the
new
digital
platform,
which
is
gonna,
which
has
allowed
us
a
lot
of
flexibility.
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
wanted
to
do
was
elicit
feedback
from
the
community.
This
is
actually
one
that
we've
already
captured
as
a
as
a
fix
or
as
an
as
an
addition,
so
really
pushing
to
get
the
the
emails.
D
And
then
I
think
that
in
this
case,
if
there's
a
situation
where
we
need
a
mailing
address
for
a
second
address,
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we
try
to
incorporate
that
too.
So
now
that
we've
finished
the
actual
process
of
of
going
through
the
inspection
and
the
referrals
and
then
still
continuing
to
work
with
folks
we're
going
to
essentially
do
a
after
action
on
this
we're
going
to
start
looking
for
enhancements
and
we're
going
to
reach
out
to
the
public
to
see
what
kinds
of
things
can
make
life
easier.
So
also.
D
I
know
that
we
have
issues
with
open
space
and
parks
and
a
few
other
areas
hoas
are
handled
and
so
we're
working
on
those
processes
as
well.
So,
as
an
iterative
process
launching
the
tool
this
year
was
the
primary
goal,
it
seemed
to
do
a
pretty
good
job
of
capturing
and
allowing
us
to
contact
folks.
I
D
A
I
think
this
probably
is
useful
not
only
for
the
brush
abatement
for
weight
abatement,
but
also
for
emergency
response.
In
case
anything
happens
to
a
property
we,
the
county,
has
informed
information
on
a
guardian
of
of
a
senior
property
owner
that
may
become
the
county
has
a
whole
should
have
a
some
kind
of
contact
us
a
secondary
contact
list.
A
D
That
would
be
one
that
I
would
refer
to
the
the
county,
russia
payment
contractor.
I
know
that
they
are
also
willing
to
help
and
look
for
opportunities
to
help
those
residents
who
need
it,
and
I
think
that,
with
regard
to
any
of
those,
that's
why
we
ask
for
people
to
let
us
know
what's
going
on,
because
we
are
able
and
willing
to
work
with
folks
it
once
again
is
not
you
don't
get
on
this
list.
If
you
talk
to
us
and
you
work
progress,
we
are
interested
in
finding
solutions,
so.
D
Part
of
this
is
not
to
push
enforcement,
but
for
someone
like
that,
we
would
definitely
have
to
look
for
some
outreach.
We
would
be
looking
for
collaboration
with
the
cities
and
or
any
other
organizations
that
could
help,
and
then
we
probably
have
firewise
or
some
of
the
other
other
communities
we
out
of
9000.
D
Inspection
that
we
we
were
trying
to
manage
this
year
didn't
get
a
single
request.
That
was
an
income
based
or
this
hardship
type
though
we
we
didn't
actually
have
anyone
reach
out
to
us
with
this
specific
problem,
and
I
would
argue
that
even
the
one
tonight
does
have
a
solution,
because
there
is
fam.
So
as
we
dealt
with
it
as
it
came
up,
we
would
we
would
look
for
options
and
we
definitely
would
reach
out.
D
You
know
to
cities
to
firewise
and
then
also
to
the
county,
to
see
if
we
can
provide
some
kind
of
assistance,
because
the
goal
would
be
they
would
be
the
biggest
in
need.
So
we
would
be
looking
for
that
specific
answers.
I
don't
have
one.
I
D
A
lot
of
options
exist
and
we
have
a
lot
of
partners
that
we
work
with.
So
with
that.
Hopefully
somebody
would
be
able
to
provide
us
a
solution
that
would
help
out,
and
I
know
that
in
some
circumstances
there
may
be
a
option
for
some
kind
of
field,
crews
or
some
other
resources
that
are
available
in
the
area.
D
A
D
I
can
reach
out
to
the
county's
the
wheat
abatement
division
and
ask
them
what
they've
done
they've
been
doing
this
for
a
number
of
years
and
if,
if
there's
a
solution
that
they
found
in
the
past,
that
would
assist
a
resident
in
this
situation.
I
I'm
sure
they
would
have
one
that
I
could
forward
to
anyone
here.
A
A
A
A
J
K
K
Good
evening
again,
so
my
name
is
tina
kapoor,
I'm
the
economic
development
manager
and
we're
here
today
for
council
consideration
and
approval
of
the
accounts
payable
report
ending
in
december
ending
december
20th
2021,
and
so
just
as
background
on
march
15th
city
council
had
considered
this
report
and
directed
staff
to
provide
more
information
on
payments
made
by
city
to
the
cupertino
chamber
of
commerce.
Since
2015.
K
So
several
departments
worked
on
gathering
this
information
and
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
time
that
was
spent
in
reviewing
organizing
it
and
we
thought
best
way
to
present.
This
would
be
to
sort
of
break
this
information
on
payments
down
into
three
categories:
three
areas
which
are
payments,
festivals
and
meeting
space.
K
So
an
overview
of
the
total
payments
made
for
invoices
that
were
received
from
the
chamber
within
the
time
frame,
they're
listed
here
and
they're
broken
down
by
fiscal
years.
So
the
details
of
this
breakdown
on
the
amounts
that
are
listed
are
provided
in
the
staff
report,
which
is
attached
to
this
agenda
item,
and
so
the
city
has
paid
the
chamber
a
total
of
two
hundred
and
eighteen
thousand
hundred
and
ninety
seven
and
ninety
one
cents,
and
these
payments
have
ranged
from
ninety
five
excuse.
J
A
B
K
K
So
the
city
has
paid
the
chamber,
as
listed
here,
a
total
of
two
hundred
and
eighteen
thousand
hundred
ninety
seven
dollars
and
ninety
one
cents
within
this
time
frame
and
these
payments
have
ranged
from
ninety
five
hundred
dollars
to
fifty
one
thousand
nine
hundred
and
four
dollars
and
thirty
one
cents,
and
these
these
payments
are
for
for
annual
partnership
or
membership
fee
for
meeting
registrations.
K
K
And
so
this
slide
outlines
the
fees
that
the
city
has
waived
for
various
festivals
over
the
years
and
these
costs
are
associated
with
third-party
festivals.
That
is
that
the
city
supports
by
waiving
fees.
So
a
details
of
the
festival
for
each
fiscal
year
again
is
attached
as
attachment
b
in
the
agenda
packet
for
this
item,
and
the
amounts
shown
here
in
the
table
represent
what
was
approved
by
council
to
support
chamber
festivals,
and
so
this
in
itself
totals
to
95
396
dollars
and
64
cents.
K
Next
slide,
please
and
then
the
third
and
last
bucket
the
city
reserved
city-owned
space
for
chamber
meetings
in
some
cases,
and
therefore
no
fees
were
charged
to
the
chamber
so
based
on
the
records
that
we
were
able
to
access,
it
appears
that
reservations
were
mostly
made
for
the
chamber's
legislative
action
committee
or
lac
that
often
covered
city-oriented
topics
and
regularly
used
by
city
staff
as
an
outreach
mechanism
to
connect
with
the
business
community.
K
So
the
table
here
shows
that
the
amount
that
would
have
been
charged
for
a
non-profit
rate,
which
would
total
to
two
thousand
and
forty
dollars
and
again
a
list
of
these
reservations,
is
included
in
the
agenda
packet
next
slide.
Please.
K
You
know
the
costs
that
are
shown
for
the
isle
of
cupertino
on
the
next
slide
will
they're
part
of
the
overall
payments
that
were
covered
earlier
in
the
presentation
they're
just
listed
here.
K
We
thought
we
kind
of
separate
out
this
program
since
there
were
program,
questions
on
it
and
just
a
little
bit
of
background,
so
in
2018,
the
city
partnered
with
the
chamber
to
launch
this
program
to
serve
as
a
digital
portal
for
visitors
and
the
community
to
support
our
small
businesses,
and
the
review
of
this
program
suggests
that
it
has
been
underutilized
so
far
and
hasn't
reached
its
full
potential.
K
Given
you
know,
if
there
is
an
interest,
you
know,
staff
can
point
to
proven
models
from
other
cities
that
can
be
replicated
in
in
cupertino
as
well,
and
then
we
could
also
experiment
with
you
know.
For
example,
just
the
gift
card
program
bring
it
in
house.
If
there's
interest
and
if
modifications
are
implemented,
you
know
it
would
allow
new
customers
or
more
customers
to
discover
and
support
our
local
businesses.
Next
slide,
please.
K
And
so,
as
mentioned,
the
amounts
that
were
paid
by
the
city
for
I
love
cupertino
program
are
shown
here.
These
costs
include
the
design
and
development
of
the
platform
and
concept
implementation
during
the
program
launch,
as
well
as
ongoing
cost
for
the
database
subscription
website
hosting
and
website
maintenance.
K
K
And
so
again,
as
next
steps
pending
council
direction,
staff
can
negotiate
a
future
scope
of
work
with
the
chamber
that
would
delineate
the
terms
of
engagement,
including
reporting
requirements,
enhancing
the
review
and
tracking
of
invoicing,
for
example,
payments
and
other
deliverables
between
the
city
and
chamber.
K
Next
slide,
please,
and
with
that,
the
staff
recommendation
today
is
for
council
to
receive
this
report
and
adopt
the
resolution
to
accept
accounts
payable
for
the
period
ending
december
20.
2021.
next
slide,
please,
I
think,
that's
the
closing
side
and
again
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
this
information
and
we're
here.
If
you
have
any
questions,
thank
you.
A
Okay,
thank
you
tina.
That's
a
very
comprehensive
study
of
all
fees
falling
under
different
back
pocket.
That's
either
waived
or
paid
on.
Thank
you
for
a
great
report
and
I
think
we
will
go
to
the
public
comment.
First,
I
see
one
hand
up
as
normally.
If
anyone
would
like
to
speak,
please
raise
your
hand
before
the
first
speaker
finishes
or
the
three
minutes
is
up
and
you
can
also
send
your
comments
through
email,
peggy,.
L
Good
evening,
council
and
staff,
thank
you
for
the
report
and
the
details.
I
have
several
comments.
The
city
spent
sixty
five
thousand
one
hundred
and
seventy
dollars
for
a
website
that
has
bad
links
chamber
only
information,
not
events
happening
in
our
city,
web
west
side,
only
list
of
parts
links
to
unknown
organizations.
L
Part
of
this
cost
was
for
maintenance
of
the
website,
but
when
I
accessed
the
website
on
may
11
2022
the
copyright
specified
2019
at
the
bottom
of
one
of
the
pages.
It
reads
that
the
website,
including
the
calendar,
is
updated
by
many
organizations
and
volunteers
as
a
community
service,
yet
we're
maintaining
it
we're
paying
for
maintenance.
L
L
Member
management
subscription
for
business
directory
called
member
who
is
it
registered
under?
Is
it
also
used
for
chamber
purposes?
What
is
the
high?
These
are
things
on
the
website.
My
request.
Stop
the
website
work
by
the
chamber
and
don't
continue
it
transfer
all
subscriptions
that
we've
paid
for
directly
to
be
under
the
city's
name,
clarify
what
a
non-profit
is
and
don't
make
agreements
with
organizations
that
are
political
lobbyists.
M
Good
evening,
I've
submitted
extensive
written
comments
on
this
item.
The
cupertino
chamber
of
commerce
is
taking
of
our
tax
dollars
has
got
to
come
to
an
end.
The
chamber
of
commerce
does
many
good
things
for
the
community,
such
as
festivals,
which
are
also
fundraisers
for
the
chamber,
but
but
but
the
chamber's
mission
is
to
support
its
170
or
so
members,
most
of
which
are
businesses.
So
why?
M
Oh,
why
are
they
not
paying
for
meetings
based
like
other
organizations
and
that
space
has
been
used
for
legislative
action
committee
meetings
that
are
not
necessarily
aligned
with
the
majority
vote
of
your
constituents,
and
should
they
pay
the
cupertino
nonprofit
rate
or
the
cupertino
business
rate?
Now
the
chamber
is
a
special
type
of
nonprofit
called
a
501c6
which
serves
its
members
by
comparison.
M
A
501c3
conventional
non-profits
mission
is
to
serve
the
public
good.
I
do
think
that
the
city
is
getting
itself
in
onto
a
slippery
slope
when
giving
money
to
the
chamber
which
endorses
political
campaigns
of
prospective
council
members
and
even
has
a
well-funded
pac,
keep
in
mind
that
conventional
non-profits
are
absolutely
prohibited
from
directly
or
indirectly
participating
in
any
political
campaign.
I
don't
think
that
city
council
should
be
approved
funding
of
an
organization
that
gets
involved
in
political
campaigns
in
order
to
advance
the
needs
of
its
members.
M
Now,
for
the
I
love
cupertino
website,
which
was
trademarked
by
cupertino
city
council,
candidate
j.r
fruit,
I
hope
that
you've
had
the
opportunity
to
navigate
the
site.
We
paid
sixty
five
thousand
dollars
for
it
and
it
was
approved
without
council
input.
If
I
had
hired
a
counselor
at
a
high
school
intern
to
build
that
site,
they
would
not
be
getting
a
recommendation
letter
from
me.
The
chamber
did
not
fulfill
their
contract
and
we
need
to
get
our
money
back.
The
site
has
broken
links,
misspellings
and
favors
chamber
events
and
its
members.
M
M
You
can
buy
a
gift
card
that
you
can
redeem
only
at
11
merchants,
only
four
parks
are
listed
and
the
link
to
more
parts
is
broken
enough
is
enough?
Stop
the
chambers
freeloading
and
give
our
sixty
five
thousand
dollars
back
with
respect
to
funding
festivals.
How
much
should
we
be
paying
for
the
chambers
money
making
ventures?
B
Mayor,
I
did
receive
an
email
yeah
from
rick
hitson,
honorable
mayor
paul
and
council
members
during
the
june
9
2022
meeting
of
the
cupertino
city
council,
a
council
member,
expressed
the
views
that
funds
raised
by
and
for
this
cupertino
chamber
of
commerce,
a
501c6
nonprofit
organization
were
redirected
and
allocated
to
a
political
action
committee
were
used
in
election
campaigns.
B
This
is
mistake.
This
mistaken
view
has
also
been
shared
by
other
council
members
at
other
public
meetings,
as
this
view
was
shared
on
the
record.
Therefore,
it
is
fundamentally
important
to
indicate
that
this
assertion
is
verifiably
untrue
by
chamber
of
business
practice
chamber
bylaws,
the
laws
of
the
state
of
california
and
the
internal
revenue
service
code.
The
cupertino
chamber
of
commerce
maintains
the
highest
fiscal
standards
and
allocates
all
proceeds
to
the
to
chamber
programs,
projects
and
operations
to
be
very
clear
chamber.
B
Membership
dues,
earnings
and
any
other
income
have
only
ever
been
used
for
the
cupertino
chamber
of
commerce,
its
members
and
many
other
local
small
businesses
served
by
our
organization.
This
includes
individuals
and
organizations
for
profit
and
nonprofit
organizations
alike.
There
is
perhaps
some
confusion
with
the
cupertino
chamber
of
commerce
political
action
committee
pac,
the
cupertino
chamber.
Pac
was
a
separate
organization
with
its
own
governance,
its
own
mission
and,
with
its
own,
very
well
documented
sources
of
funding.
B
While
I
understand
there
is
some
history
between
members
of
this
council
and
the
cupertino
chamber
pack
that
pac
no
longer
exists
with
the
significant
changes
and
challenges
experienced
by
our
residents
and
by
our
local
business.
Community
cupertino
chamber
of
commerce,
services
and
priorities
are
addressing
changing
circumstances.
E
N
I
may
I
I
just
wanted
to
note
that
you
know
both
the
staff,
presentation
and
public
comments
were
quite
wide,
ranging
but
what's
been,
agendized
is
accepting
accounts
payable,
ending
december
20th,
20
2021
and
that
accounts
payable
does
include
the
chamber's
annual
contract
first
installment,
that's
a
payment
of
eight
thousand
dollars,
and
so
certainly
discussion
that
relates
to
that
payment
and
any
services
that
provided
to
that
payment
would
be
appropriate.
But
I
would
recommend
that
council
limit
the
discussion
to
what's
agendized,
which
is
that
accounts
payable.
A
Okay,
but
the
staff
presentation
was
pretty
extensive.
Yes,.
A
N
A
A
A
So
I
think
the
question
is:
what
do
we
do
today
in
terms
of
the
accounts
payable?
Any
comment
on
that
console?
Maybe
more
okay,.
F
Thank
you.
I
I
do
want
to
comment
on
on.
F
Thank
you.
So,
with
regards
to
the
cupertino
chamber
of
commerce,
they
have
a
number
of
businesses
within
their
directory,
which
are
just
a
fraction
of
the
the
total
number.
So
while
they
do
support
their
own
members,
you
need
to
understand
that,
in
in
light
of
the
the
small
number
of
members
that
they
have,
who
pay
the
membership
fee
to
belong
versus
the
over
2
400
licensed
businesses
that
we
have
within
the
city,
and
I
did
include
the
entire
list
within
the
the
written
communications
so
that
we
can
understand
that.
F
Now.
This
item
was
pulled
because
it
said
it
was
the.
It
was
an
installment
to
the
contract
with
the
chamber
of
commerce,
and
I
tried
to
locate
that
contract
through
the
agreements
in
our
city
records
and
I
requested
staff
to
to
provide
it
also,
and
it
turned
out
that
there
was
no
contract.
F
The
handshake
agreement
for
this
contract,
which
apparently
wasn't
written
and
it
apparently
was
a
verbal
contract,
but
no
one
seems
to
know
what
it
was
for
goes
back
for
decades.
In
fact.
So
if
you,
if
you
were
to
go
to
the
resolutions,
which
is
where
the
accounts
payable,
are
stored,
if
you
go
to
resolutions
and
simply
type
in
chamber
of
commerce,
the
various
payments
to
this
non-existent
contract
show
up.
F
So
I
think
I
personally
can't
accept
the
accounts
payable
for
for
an
item
which
we
have
no
idea.
What
were
what
we
paid
them
for
and,
and
I
I
thought
there
was
a
some
kind
of
rule-
that,
if
you
are,
are
billing,
the
city,
that
you
need
to
have
actual
work
that
you're
billing
them
for.
It's,
not
you,
you
don't
simply
send
an
invoice
without
having
something
to
substantiate
what
you're
charging
the
city
for-
and
you
know
I'm
hearing
the
word
partnership.
F
F
I've
also
turned
in
the
public
records
request
for
the
invoices
associated
with
many
of
the
payments.
So
my
my
recommendation
would
be
that
the
city
staff
continue
to
look
around
for
the
contract
which
they
paid
this
money
on,
and
that
this
item
would
get
continued
until
they
can
locate
it
and
perhaps
give
some
history
going
way
back.
F
So
my
personal
suggestion
would
be
that
we
let
city
staff,
locate,
locate
the
contract
find
out
what
the
history
is
and
then
under
future
agenda
items.
We
bring
this
item
back
with
all
of
the
the
records
and
we
have
an
understanding
for
what
our
contract
requirements
are
for
the
city,
whether
or
not
we
allow
verbal
handshake
agreements
and
what
we're
going
to
do
about
this
moving
forward,
and
I
think
the
invoices
which
I
have
added
will
provide
some
additional
information
and,
I
think,
we'll
all
benefit
from
it.
Thank
you.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
vice
mayor,
I'm
hearing
what
our
city
attorney
suggestion
is.
I
have
to
color
it
a
little
different.
I
agree
with
councilman
moore
that
for
us
to
approve
an
accounts
payable
without
a
clear
contractual
document.
I
think
I
would
have
gone
a
little
bit
less
detailed.
G
I
mean
we're
pretty
much
we're
all
high-tech
people
in
this
valley.
We
deal
with
contractors
all
the
time
and
in
high
tech
you
have
a
contract
and
if
we
don't
have
a
contract,
in
this
case
for
the
chamber
of
commerce
to
submit
a
adequately
detailed
list
of
what
thousand
dollars
is
to
be
tied
to
that
we
could
either
accept
or
reject
every
time
voice
comes
into
the
high-tech
company
it
gets
scrutinized.
G
Did
all
the
eyes
get
dotted
the
t's
get
crossed?
Were
the
reports
accepted?
Are
they
sufficient
things
of
that
nature?
That's
that's
standard.
You,
you
just
don't
hand
out
money
without
a
very
detailed
thing.
So,
while
we're
clearly
only
talking
about
this
eight
thousand
dollar
chunk
at
this
time,
I
think
it
clearly
goes
to
the
bigger
picture
that
I
would
like
to
keep
with
this
to,
to
somehow
only
approve
the
8
000
and
then
bring
back
the
agenda
item
to
talk
about
the
history.
G
G
I
truly
believe
can
do
a
great
service
for
the
community
of
ours,
but
but
it
needs
to
adhere
to
the
city's
rule
and
making
sure
that
that's
all
very
clear
when
we
go
to
sign
this
eight
thousand
dollar
check
going
forward
to
me
is
very
important
and
if
I
think
we
send
the
wrong
message
when
we
sign
off
on
the
8
000-
and
we
say
well,
you
know
here
we
are
we're
we're
kind
of
taking
issue
with
it,
but
we're
not
requiring
no.
G
I
think
we
should
be
requiring
it
and
make
this
the
going
forward
process
and
I'd
really
like
to
to
hear
from
rick
in
person.
G
Tell
us
what
fair
or
fair
our
amounts
are
for
that
service
and
then
we'll
can
give
it
very
careful
consideration,
and
you
trust
us.
We
trust
you,
that's
how
it's
got
to
be
going
forward.
G
I
mean
that
that's
how
people
deal
with
things
in
life
and
unfortunately
it
hasn't
always
been
like
that,
and
that
is
unfortunate
now
we
need
to
really
set
things
straight
so
with
that
I'd
like
to
see
this
brought
back
to
us
so
that
we
can
have
a
clear
meeting
of
the
minds
and
make
sure
everybody
is
understanding
what
we're
going
to
be
expecting
going
forward.
So
with
that
back
to
you
vice
mayor,
thank
you
very
much.
H
Thank
you
vice
mayor,
okay,
so
this
is
how
I
see
the
things
I
need
to
remind
this
council.
This
has
been
going
on
for
a
long
time
unless
councilmember
moore
says
expecting
20.
H
No,
no,
the
unspoken,
the
unreasonable.
H
Deals,
you
know
the
city
council
that
and
the
count
the
chamber
work
really
close
together.
Our
mayor
was
a
chamber
president
before
so.
First
I'd
like
to
clarify
I'm
not.
I
am
I'm
neutral
on
this
thing,
because
this
is
happen
after
we
get
elected,
but
the
chambers
members
are
mostly
small
businesses
and
our
residents
and
the
council
is
very
supportive
of
small
businesses.
Councilmember
moore
did
say
there
are
2400
registered
licensed.
You
know
businesses,
but
a
lot
of
them
are
single
person
people
at
home.
H
But
if
you
look
at
the
chambers
members,
they
are
made
of
a
small
business
or
restaurants
that
support
our
residents.
That
brings
revenue
to
our
city,
so
the
chamber
and
most
cities.
If
you
look
at
histories
of
all
the
cities,
have
very
good
relationship,
because
chambers
supports
small
businesses
that
supports
cities.
So
I'm
not
objective.
We
have
contracts,
but
I
must
remind
our
council
members,
mayor
paul
and
vice
mayor
ciao
and
councilmember
willie.
This
has
been
going
on
under
your
watch
too.
I
mean
you
have
a
handshake
agreement
with
the
chamber.
H
H
H
H
Let's
have
written
agreement,
let's
have
more
defined
contract,
but
I
just
don't
see
having
this
item
coming
back
over
and
over
again,
it's
a
payment
in
december
and
it's
already
been
paid
and
it's
paid
under
the
watch
of
our
current
mayor
and
our
vice
mayor
and
council
member
willie.
So
I
just
don't
see.
Why
do
we
need
to
bring
this
back
over
and
over
again?
But
I
do
agree,
we
should
have
a
study
session.
Our
staff
is
working
on
a
contract
with
the
chamber.
H
I
just
want
to
get
this
item
approved
and
but
move
forward
with
a
more
formal
and
written
contract
with
the
chamber.
So
it's
beneficial.
Yes,
we
are
spending.
Maybe
tax
dollars,
support
the
chamber,
because
chamber
supports
small
businesses
and
big
businesses,
major
businesses
in
our
city-
and
we
love
retails.
Don't
we
we
always
said
we
want
more
retails
retails
needs
chamber,
support
and
city
support.
H
So
I
really
don't
see
why
we
need
to
bring
this
item
back
over
and
over
again,
but
I
do
agree
with
councilmember,
moore
and
councilmember
willey
that
we
moving
forward
the
staff
need
to
work
with
the
council
with
a
contract
and
approved
by
the
city
council.
That's
just
my
opinion.
I
think
we
should
get
this
over
on
this
particular
payment,
because
it's
only
be
paid
under
a
previously
historically
agreed
on
non-written
verbal
agreement,
with
partnership
with
the
council.
That's
just
my
opinion.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you,
so
I
want
to
first
clarify
something:
we
are
not
talking
about
the
city,
waiving
any
fees
for
any
small
business.
Here
I
think
most
majority
of
the
small
businesses
3
000
of
them
cannot
afford
to
join
the
chamber.
Only
300
are
able
to
afford
the
high
membership
fee
to
join
the
chamber.
So
so,
let's
not
confuse
that
and
the
waiving
fees
to
chamber
is
different
from
supporting
small
business
which
and
then
and
then
discussing.
This
has
nothing
to
do
with
even
supporting
the
chamber.
A
Yes,
I
was
on
the
council
in
2019
and
20
and
21
we
paid
every
year,
and
I
did
not
know
about
all
this
payment
and
not
knowing
about
it,
does
not
justify
continuing
to
do
the
same
thing
when
I,
when
we
have
been
doing
that,
ignoring
without
knowing
the
contract,
but
first
I
want
to
ask
so
the
current
payment.
Without
the
contract
which
department
it
comes
out
under.
A
A
J
J
I
J
Like
we're
still
paying
it,
we've
stopped
that
the
other
part
is
the
contract
were
assuming
it
was
oral,
but
it
went
back
decades.
As
councilmember
moore
said.
I
can't
I
couldn't
put
my
life
on
it
and
say
there
was
no
contract.
Maybe
there
was,
but
in
those
many
decades
it
disappeared,
it
got
lost
so.
E
A
And
then,
if
the
contract
is,
let's
say
assuming
it's
for
a
limited
number
of
years
and
then
if
the
contract
is
not
renewed
and
then
then
the
contract
then
will
be
invalid
right.
That.
J
A
That's
clearly
for
public
benefit,
it
doesn't.
J
We
don't
know,
we've
spent
more
money
on
this,
going
back
and
forth
already
with
staff,
and
now
we're
going
to
keep
coming
back
for
an
item
that
has
been
paid
and
it
makes
no
sense
if
we
want
to
come
back
with
a
study
session.
Let's
go
do
that
one,
but
right
now
this
makes
no
sense
to
continue
down
this
path
of
holding
up.
What's
already
been
paid,
they've
cashed,
the
check,
it's
it's,
it's
something
that
we've
presented
and
now
we're
continuing
to
go
down
a
path
that
really
doesn't
fit.
A
N
So
because
so
there
there's
there's
a
resolution
that
governs
the
the
payment
of
checks
by
the
city.
Treasurer,
which
is
you
know,
the
admin
services
manager
by
code
is
the
same
position
and
it
requires
that
that
checks
paid
by
the
treasurer
come
to
council
for
ratification
are
presented
to
council
for
ratification.
N
It
doesn't
require
counsel
to
necessarily
approve
the
checks,
and
certainly
you
know,
there's
no,
no
requirement
that
council
approve
this,
this
ap
in
whole
or
in
part.
I
think
the
question
is
whether
bringing
it
back
again
will
add
more
information
to
council
to
make
that
decision
as
to
whether
it
should
approve
it
or
not,
or
whether
you
know
you.
You
have
the
information
that
you
that
that
that
that
you're
going
to
going
to
to
be
able
to
to
rely
on
to
make
that
decision
and
you're
able
to
make
that
decision.
A
So
the
what's
on
the
table
is
whether
to
ratify
this
paid
payment.
So
I
think
so
the
code
is
exists
for
a
reason.
So
is
there
any
kind
of
reasons?
Usually
people
might
not
rectify
a
check.
N
So
I
so
I
I
have
looked
at
this
and
I
have
not
found
any
legal
consequences
for
not
ratifying
a
particular
payment.
I
have
not
been
found
in
any
any
case
law
or
statutory
authority.
That
would
step
that
would
suggest
that
there
are
legal
consequences
for
a
decision
one
way
or
another.
You
know
that
said,
I
mean,
I
think.
N
The
process
that
was
established
by
the
the
resolution
governing
the
operation
of
the
treasurer
is
a
mechanism
for
giving
the
public
and
council
some
visibility
into
the
you
know,
payments
that
are
approved
at
the
administrative
level,
and
so
I
mean
I
think
that
it
serves
a
purpose,
but
as
far
as
legal
consequences
from
not
approving
it,
I
have
not
been
able
to
identify
any.
N
F
Okay,
thank
you.
So
it
it
minimizes
the
issue.
If
you,
if
you
look
at
one
single
payment-
and
I
think
that
one
of
the
issues
that
city
council
probably
has
historically,
is
that
if
you
look
at
the
payment
register,
it
says
that
the
first
installment
or
the
second
installment
to
the
city
contract
with
the
chamber
of
commerce,
and
when
I
looked
at
that,
I
just
assumed
it
says:
there's
a
contract,
there
must
be
a
contract.
There's
got
to
be
one,
of
course
right.
Otherwise
this
payment
register
seems
rather
fraudulent
to
me,
okay.
F
F
Excuse
me
it's
from
august
10,
2021
and
it
says
the
city
annual
contract
first
installment
for
eight
thousand
dollars,
and
I
was
kind
of
wondering.
Could
the
video.
A
Department
share
that
spotlight
that.
F
F
Now
it's
showing
now,
okay,
so,
and
I
have
I've
submitted
all
of
these
invoices
into
the
the
public
record.
It
was
a
public
records
request.
So,
as
you
can
see,
it's
paying
it's
a
it's
request
for
a
payment
of
for
of
eight
thousand
dollars
and
I'm
also
wondering
what
obligation
a
a
company
has
when
they
submit
an
invoice
to
the
city
to
essentially
justify
it.
F
So
if
we
don't
know
what
the
contract
is,
they
they
should
be
able
to
turn
around
and
tell
us
exactly
what
what
this
bill
is
for.
Is
that
correct?
I,
because
I
would
assume
that
you
can't
simply
send
an
invoice
to
a
city
without
having
the
justification
for
it.
F
G
Yeah,
I
mean
it
almost
segues
exactly
into
what
I
was
saying
before.
Thank
you,
councilman
moore,
I
mean
I
would
be
in
favor
of
you
know
the
chamber
of
commerce
detailing
what
that
payment
was
for.
G
Yes,
it's
after
the
fact,
but
please
break
it
down.
Was
it
some
type
of
investigation?
Was
it
some
type
of
clerical
work?
What
you
know
whatever
it
was?
I
think
it
I
think
we
deserve
the
community
deserves
to
know
the
details
of
that
it
was
said
that,
well,
you
know
this
happened
under
our
walk.
G
G
G
Who
owns
the
logo
that
we
paid
a
thousand
dollars
for
who
owns
the
the
data
files
that
go
along
with
it?
G
G
One
resident
said
that
you
know,
maybe
maybe
we
were
paying
more
than
we
should
have
paid,
and
should
we
get
money
back,
you
know
65
000
for
a
website.
It
didn't
quite
work.
Yes,
companies
do
go
after
companies
that
have
not
performed,
I'm
not
suggesting
that
we
necessarily
pursue
that
avenue.
G
I
would
need
to
increase
my
cost
to
continue
to
fulfill
all
the
things
that
I
think
you'd
really
like,
and
I
would
really
really
hope
that
our
city
staff
gets
in
that
mode
with
our
suppliers
again.
G
So
again,
I'd
love
to
move
this
thing
along,
but
I
really
like
to
see
these
answers.
These
questions
answered
first
and
just
bring
it
back
to
us
answer
the
questions
if
you
answer
them
sufficiently,
I
won't
ask
any
more
questions
and
at
that
point
I'll
say
great:
let's
move
on
so,
okay
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
So
sorry
tina.
G
I
I'm
sad
that
you're
finding
this
in
your
ballpark,
the
previous
econ
development
coordinator,
you
know
was
he
here
during
this
you
weren't
so
you're
kind
of
left
to
to
kind
of
deal
with
it
and
unfortunately
in
life
you
know
we
all
have
to
to
pick
up
the
pieces.
Sometimes
so.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
work.
Dina
and.
F
Thank
you,
councilmember
willie,
for
bringing
up
the
the
previous
economic
development
manager,
and
I
and
I
do
feel
like
tina,
unfortunately
inherited
some
of
these
issues
that
I
think
they're
very.
F
Interesting
with
regards
to
various
policies
which
we
need
to
be
discussing,
but
what
your
your
comment
reminds
me
of
is
the
the
hdl
contract
which
went
over
the
contract
amount,
which
was
related
to
the
same
individual,
and
so
I'm
wondering
what
is
it
about
that
contract
that
got
flagged
versus
this
contract?
We're
looking
at
this
city
annual
contract,
first
installment?
So
when
it
came
through
when
this
invoice
came
through
from
the
chamber
of
commerce,
wouldn't
we
have
expected
the
finance
department
to
have
said
the
administrative
services
department
under
the
finance
manager?
F
It
would
seem
to
me
that
this
is
a
staff
responsibility
and
not
a
a
curious
council
member's
responsibility
when
there's
so
many.
In
fact,
today,
we've
have
1300
pages
to
go
through
in
an
agenda
packet.
E
J
You
vice
man,
I
you
know
I'll
just
say
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
get
anywhere
tonight.
I
think,
if
anything,
if
I
was
counsel,
I
would
ask
to
have
a
study
session
brought
back
approve.
This
come
back
with
a
study
session
that
we
can
go
into
much
more
detail
with
what
we're
discussing
tonight.
Otherwise,
it's
it's
just
going
to
continue
on
and
on
and
on.
F
H
I
think
council
member
roy
has
made
it
very
clearly
even
starting
from
a
couple
meetings
ago
that
this
needs
to
be
looked
at
and
I
think
staff
is
looking
at
it
and
I
do
recommend
that
we
do
have
a
study
session
on
this.
I
do
not
agree
with
council
member
willie
said
that,
because
it's
in
consent
calendar
that
this
council
was
not
responsible
for
it.
I
read
and
I
believe
councilmember
moore
does
too
every
account
payable
every
item
of
it,
and
I
ask
plenty
of
questions
basically
just
to
educate
myself.
H
What's
this
payments
for,
what's
that
payments
for
and
so
that
when
it
comes
up
next
time,
I
would
not
ask
again,
as
for
the
the
chambers
payment
it,
I
don't
think
I
think
the
staff
made
it
very
clear.
They
probably
cannot
find
the
original
contract.
It
could
be
an
oral
contract
but
written
control,
perpetual,
but
I
get
it.
I
think
the
staff
get
a
very
clear
message
that
this
needs
to
be
a
study
session
and
the
the
future
any
payments
that's
going
to
be
going
to
any
any.
H
So
I
do
not
want
to
put
this
on
the
staff
because
I
do
believe
it
is
under
the
economic
developments
director's
budget
and
the
council
and
or
the
previous
council,
even
with
vice
mayor
chao
and
mayor
paul
and
council
member
willie
on
it
have
a
good
relationship
with
the
chamber
of
commerce
and
recognizing
that
the
chamber
supports
businesses,
which
is
business
very
important
to
the
city
with
economic
development
and
also
serve
our
residents.
I'm
not
going
into
details.
I
just
want
to
go
back
to
chris
our
attorney
chris's
comment.
H
Yes,
it
doesn't
matter
whether
we
prove
it
or
not,
rectified
or
not
approved.
The
payment
is
being
made.
I
just
don't
see
the
point
of
dragging
this
item
out
over
and
over
again,
but
I
do
agree.
A
study
session
formalize
the
relationship
with
the
chamber
of
commerce
to
re-establish
that
partnership
that
we
support
businesses,
business,
supports
residents,
we
bring
more
business,
we
bring
you
bring
more
tax
revenue
to
the
city
and
we
attract
more
businesses.
H
Small
business
I
mean
restaurants
to
me-
are
small
businesses
and
they
are
plenty
of
restaurants
that
belongs
to
our
chamber.
So
I
just
do
believe
that
let's
move
forward
with
a
formal
re-established
relationship
with
our
chamber
to
support
businesses
and
business
support
us
whether
we
want
to
give
them
free.
You
know
this
or
that
we
don't
have
to,
but
that
relationship.
If
you
look
at
every
city,
their
the
city's
relationship
with
businesses
are
inseparable,
the
city,
the
business
business
is
part
of
our
city
and
chamber
supports
the
city.
H
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
are
talking
about
chamber
of
commerce
that
have
members
who
are
doing
business
in
our
city.
I
just
don't
see
why
this
item
has
to
come
back
over
and
over
again,
I
do
agree
with.
Yes,
let's
do
a
study
session.
Let's
move
forward
with
more
formalized
agreement.
Let's
make
sure
future
payments
is
what
we,
the
city,
can
get
benefits
from
supporting
business
and
from
chambers
supporting
us
again.
I
just
don't
think
this
item
needs
to
come
back
over
and
over
again.
A
So,
let's
rectify
accounts
payable
for
december
20th
2021,
except
the
installment
payment
for
chamber
of
commerce,
and
so
because
I
understand
the
way
can
choose
not
to
rectify.
I
think
it's
a
matter
of
principle.
We
should
not
rectify
it
and
then
let's
bring
it
back
for
a
study
session
to
review
past
partnership
and
support
for
chambers,
including
all
the
information
that
tina
just
presented
and
also
discuss
options
of
future
partnership
with
chamber,
and
I
would
like
the
following
information
to
come
back
information
on
other
cities
and
their
religious
relationship
with
chamber.
I
think
even
earlier.
A
The
staff
has
provided
some
information
in
earlier
item
at
earlier
time
and
then
what
other
payments
are
made
to
contracts
that
do
not
have
a
written
agreement,
so
this
might
not
be
the
only
one.
We
are
not
trying
to
target
any
one
organization,
but
if
any
organization
has
a
verbal
agreement
with
cupertino
and
we
are
making
payment
without
any
contract,
I
think
we
should
know
about
that.
So,
let's
find
out
what
other
organizations
are
there
and
also
what
other
payments
are
made
for
evergreen
contracts.
A
I
didn't
know
those
are
even
valid,
whether
they
have
verbal
or
written
agreement,
and
if
these
contracts
have
been
continued
without
any
counsel
approval.
I
think
we
need
to
know
about
them,
so
let's
bring
find
them
and
bring
that
back
and
what
process
is
there
to
confirm?
An
invoice
contains
enough
information
to
justify
the
amount.
A
So
if
someone
slap
us
at
eight
thousand
dollar
invoice,
how
do
we
make
sure
that
they
are
actually
doing
the
work
their
contract
specifies
that
justify
the
amount?
I
think
it
makes
sense
for
us
to
be
fiscally
responsible
for
the
tax
player
payer
dollars
and
whether
chamber
qualifies
for
nonprofit
fees
for
facility
rental.
As
the
501
c
6
nonprofit.
I
think
we
just
need
to
clarify
on
that
on
actually
for
facility
rental.
A
They
also
need
to
provide
certificate
of
insurance,
which
I'm
not
sure
if
they
provide
and
which
communication
methods
do
we
have
to
reach
out
to
all
businesses
who
have
cupertino
licenses
so
that
we
actually
do
serve
everyone
and
not
just
chamber
members,
and
how
do
we
support
all
cupertino
businesses,
so
some
of
these
may
fit
under
on.
So
it
might
be
a
study
session
with
partnership
with
chamber,
but
in
general,
supporting
how
to
support
businesses,
maybe
through
a
partnership
with
chamber.
Maybe
beyond
that.
A
N
I
may
just
before
so
just
a
couple
of
comments.
One
is
the
so
regarding
the
first
bullet
point,
so
that
that's
definitely
on
point
with
our
agenda
item
except
the
first
word
should
be
ratify
r-a-t-I-f-y.
E
N
Regarding
the
second
bullet
point,
I
think
I
would
recommend
putting
a
pin
in
that
and
then
coming
back
to
it
as
a
future
agenda
item.
P
N
E
A
Okay,
oh
sorry,
you
said
rectify,
rectify
r-e-t-r-a-t.
F
Okay,
thank
you
and,
and
I
do
think,
I
think
that
the
first
bullet
points
are
very
useful,
but
we
should
probably
point
out
that
council
member
way
was
endorsed
by
the
the
chamber
and
it's
it's
on
their
their
website
and
they
their
pack
supported
her
campaign
campaigning
and
to
the
tune
of
120
000.
That
should
probably
be
included,
but
shouldn't
we
be
addressing
that
under
future
agenda
items
I
mean
we
can
add
it
now,
but.
A
Make
me
to
make
it
know
that
we
can
just
I'm
making
the
note
for
future
agenda
items,
so
we
can
bring
this
up
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
Okay.
F
F
There's
the
trademark
question,
which
attorney
j.r
fruin
filed
for
the
the
trademark,
which
is
in
chamber
of
commerce's
name
at
the
u.s
trademark
office,
so
that
all
of
that
could
be
still
included,
okay
right
and
then
there's
the
the
current
web
page,
which
is
showing
the
endorsement
of
council
member
way
which
isn't
separate
from
a
pack.
It's.
O
I
F
I
think
it
because
what's
important
is
that
this
is
we
understand
this
is
a
lobbying
organization
and
then,
when,
when
we
do
get
this
comparison,
you
look
at
santa
clara.
We've
got
santa
clara
cuts
ties
with
the
chamber
of
commerce.
So
there's
there's.
D
O
A
Yeah
multiple
cities
are
having
within
their
chambers.
So
then
my
motion
is
only
this
part:
ratify
accounts
payable
except
the
installment
for
chamber
and
the
rest,
I'm
just
making
notes
for
convenience
right
now.
So
that
way,
don't
forget
when
it
comes
at
the
end.
I
do
have
a
question.
I
think
this
agenda
item
does
include
the
I
love
cupertino
invoices.
A
E
H
A
Yeah.
Okay,
the
first
part
yeah,
because
emotionally
this
is
the
agenda,
because
my
name
is
being.
H
It
says
the
chamber
pack
contributes
to
hungry's
campaign,
which
is
absolutely
not
true.
The
chamber
pack
contributes
to
their
own
campaign.
My
campaign
has
nothing
to
do
with
it.
I
didn't
even
know
what
they're
doing
okay,
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
it's
not
they
didn't
come.
They
didn't
contribute
to
my
campaign.
Okay,.
O
H
A
H
A
H
B
The
motion
some
motion
is
only
motion
carries
with
way
voting
now
and
paul
absent.
B
A
O
R
The
agenda
tonight
will
be
the
original
agreement
between
the
city
of
cupertino
and
the
historical
society.
Previous
funding
from
the
city,
the
formation
of
the
city
council's
subcommittee
and
the
research
collected
based
on
guidance
from
the
city
council
subcommittee
on
july,
6
1992
council
authorized
execution
of
the
original
tenant
agreement
with
the
cupertino
historical
society
at
the
quinlan
community
center.
The
agreement
was
later
renewed
in
1994
and
1996.
R
The
cupertino
historical
society
has
been
awarded
awarded
funding
through
the
community
funding
grant
program
since
2015.
as
part
of
the
fiscal
year
2019-22
budget
approval
process.
At
the
june
18
2019
city
council
meeting
council
unanimously
approved
to
designate
an
annual
amount
of
20
000
as
a
base
or
line
item
for
the
cupertino
historical
society.
R
These
funds
are
to
be
designated
in
the
community
funding
grant
program
budget
as
their
own
line
item.
This
slide
shows
the
breakdown
of
the
historical
society's
previously
awarded
funds
through
the
community
funding
grant
program
2015
through
2018
were
through
applications
with
the
community
funding
grant
program.
2019
and
2020
were
an
individual
budget
line.
Item
and
2021
was
a
one-time
allocation.
R
The
difference
between
funding
received
as
a
budget
line
item
versus
funding
received
through
the
community
funding
grant
process
is
mostly
how
the
funds
can
be
utilized
to
receive
funding
through
the
community
funding
grant
process.
The
historical
society
would
need
to
meet
the
eligibility
criteria
from
the
community
funding
policy,
whereas
a
budget
line
item
allows
the
historical
society
to
receive
the
funds
after
city
council,
budget
approval
and
utilize
the
funds
without
the
eligibility
criteria.
R
A
Thank
you
for
the
presentation
for
member
of
the
public.
A
I
I
think
the
the
staff
really
has
done
extensive
research
and
there
is
an
extensive
comparative
study
with
all
the
museums
in
I
don't
know,
like
10
different
cities,
that's
a
lot
of
work,
so
I
would
like
to
commend
the
staff
for
the
thorough
research
that
you
have
done
that
really
give
us
an
idea
of
different
options.
The
different
cities
support
their
historical
or
other
museums.
A
Thank
you
rachel.
So
we
have
five
hands
up
on.
The
rule
usually
is
before
the
first
person
finished
speaking
or
three
minutes
is
up.
Please
raise
your
hand
after
that
we
won't
accept
any
more
hands
and
wasting
that
time.
If
you
send
the
email
to
city
clerk
that
that
could
be
read
into
record
and
then
after
the
virtual
hands,
we
will
go
to
the
in
person
once
that
we
don't
have
anyone
right
now.
So
let's
go
to
bruce.
S
I've
been
involved
with
a
couple
other
groups
here:
ymca
and
board
of
directors
there
service
club,
but
I
wanted
to
do
something
different
in
the
community
and
my
initial
perception
was
that
the
historical
society
was
kind
of
a
well.
I
don't
want
to
say
stagnant,
but
was
kind
of
a
laid-back,
not
a
terribly
accurate
group.
But
when
I
joined
it,
I
discovered
that
I
was
grossly
mistaken.
S
The
my
perception
was
completely
wrong
that
the
historical
society
museum,
in
my
mind,
are
one
of
the
best
kept
secret
in
the
city
of
cupertino.
S
S
They
have
an
active
oral
history
project
I
can
go
on
and
on
and
on
about
the
things
that
the
museum
does,
in
addition
to
that
they
are
the
whole
repository
for
historical
artifacts
surrounding
cupertino
and
cupertino's.
History,
restore
historical
papers,
documents,
pictures
of
artifacts
furniture,
just
a
ton
of
stuff.
I
think
we
have
like
5
000
items
in
our
in
the
collection
it's
staffed
by
a
very
dedicated
small
staff
of
all
volunteers.
S
Compared
to
other
local
historical
museums,
which
I
contributed
somewhat
to
the
the
staff
study
on
comparing
it
with
other
local
museums,
the
cupertino
historical
society
museum
is
grossly
underfunded,
understaffed
under-appreciated,
under-supported
and
and
just
under-represented
by
by
the
city
in
general,
and
I
I
would
like
to
say
that
anything
that
this
city
can
do
the
council
can
do
to
assist
the
cupertino
historical
society,
I
think,
would
be
a
giant
benefit
to
the
city
of
cupertino.
A
I
I
They
have
been
here
many
decades
supporting
the
community
outreaching
toward
our
skilled
children,
with
the
historical
suitcase
up
into
our
students
and
many
informative
programs
that
they
present
each
year
for
our
community.
History
is
something
that
is
important
to
all
of
our
residents
and
I
feel
so
proud
to
have
this
strong
organization
and
to
get
funding
from
the
city
that
benefits
all
of
our
residents
is
very
important.
I
I
was
so
so
happy
that
jennifer
invited
me
me
to
attend,
with
cupertino
mayors,
darcy
paul
in
putting
together
this
wonderful
trip
to
angel
island,
to
visit
the
immigration
station
and
just
bringing
cupertino
residents
together
by
organizing
the
bus
and
then
the
ferry
and
then
having
a
docent,
take
at
the
immigration
station
to
learn
about
that
part
of
our
history
on
angel
island.
So
I
would
really
strongly
encourage
I
vote
for
the
council
to
support
the
historic
society
and
just
want
to
say
an
early.
I
P
Hi
everyone.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
great
thanks
a
lot
vice
made
ciao
and
council
member
really
appreciate
this
opportunity
to
speak
with
you
today.
P
Like
bruce,
I
also
joined
the
board
a
year
and
a
half
back
and
the
unique
perspective
which
I
really
bring
is
that
I'm
in
fact
new
to
california
new
to
cupertino
paul
cupertino
is
my
home
back
in
2018
after
living
for
almost
two
decades
in
new
york
and
new
jersey
area
there.
I
was
indeed
involved
in
a
lot
of
education,
related
activities,
both
volunteer
and
other
ways,
and
when
we
moved
here
as
a
family,
we
really
started
with.
P
You
know:
sister's
city
participating
in
the
community
and
in
fact
we
were
also
host
family
for
hinchu
taiwan.
My
son
went
to
taiwan
as
well
loved
it
he
still
actually
remembers
and
in
touch
the
reason
that
is
actually
important
is
that's
really
led
me
to
consider
again.
How
do
I
give
back
to
the
community
and
and
chose
to
be
on
the
board
of
historical
society?
At
that
point
of
time,
I
won't
go
through
the
list,
as
blue
bruce
has
already
mentioned
about
all
the
activities
which
historical
society
and
museum
is
doing.
P
But
the
couple
of
things
which
really
pulls
out
is
the
the
very
successful
speaker
series
program
which
we
have.
That
is
actually
one
of
the
thing
which
gives
you
back
to
the
young
as
well
as
the
adult
community
members.
Similarly,
the
rotational
exhibits,
which
we
are
maintaining
through
the
museum
that's
again
another
way
to
really
give
it
back
to
in
an
educational
sense
to
our
youngest
students,
as
well
as
the
adults
in
their
community.
P
I
was,
in
fact
also
on
the
trip
to
angel
island
coming
from
new
york
very
much
familiar
with
ellis
island
and
seeing
this
now
on
the
west
coast
as
well,
along
with
vice
made
chow
council
member
way
and
consumer
village,
it
was
really
a
great
trip,
came
out
as
a
quite
moved
in
in
many
ways,
because
you
know
knowing
the
history
with
the
last
four
years
of
cupertino,
but
really
didn't
know
much
about
this
whole
area.
So
that
way,
it
was
a
really
unique
exposure
for
me
as
well.
P
The
one
thing
I
would
really
like
to
also
highlight
is
is
again
because
of
my
perspective,
coming
from
places
like
new
york,
cupertino
is
a
city
which
is
really
on
the
global
map,
mainly
because
of
apple
headquarters,
but
also,
uniquely
because
of
its
own
history
here,
which
I've
learned
in
last
year
and
a
half
and-
and
the
least
we
can
really
do
is
to
really
have
you
know,
call.
P
T
Thank
you
vice
mayor
hi,
I'm
jennifer
griffin
and
I'm
very
very
glad.
Cupertino
has
a
historical
society.
Cupertino
has
a
very
unique
history.
Having
grown
up
in
the
area,
I'm
very
very
familiar
with
the
history.
I
I
had
the
good
experience
when
I
was
a
child
to
live
near.
T
I
I
see
a
lot
of
people
not
from
our
city,
but
I
see
a
lot
of
other
people
that
don't
they
just
kind
of
gloss
over
why
there
are
certain
buildings
or
why
things
are
the
way
they
are
and
I
and
they
don't
take
a
deeper
look.
I
my
mother
is
from
virginia
her
hometown
is
hundreds
of
years
old,
so
I
grew
up
knowing
a
lot
of
those
areas
that
were
instrumental
in
the
establishment
of
this
country
as
a
country.
T
I
I
considered
that
a
real
blessing
in
my
life
and
I've
also
my
parents,
took
us
to
every
part
of
this
state
during
history
with
california.
So
I've
had
the
good
grace
to
understand
that,
but
I
do
think
it's
important
that
now
the
stockholmer
house
have
a
place
in
cupertino
history
and
also
the
snyder
hammond
house.
They
there
aren't
a
lot
of
old
buildings
left
in
cupertino
that
these
two
buildings
have
their
own
unique
histories,
and
you
know
one
of
them.
The
snyder
hammond
house
is
1881
victorian
and
the
stockholmer
house
is
1900.
T
Mr
stockelmeyer
louis
stockelmeyer
was
very
instrumental
in
the
establishment
of
cupertino
and
the
snyder
hammond
house
has
a
lot
of
history
to
that
unique
area
where
it's
from,
but
I
really
hope
that
as
we
go
forward
that
there
can
be
a
blueprint
for
what
we're
doing
with
these
two
buildings,
because
they
have
fantastic
things
to
teach
the
community
anyway.
Thank
you
so
much.
Q
You
hear
me
now:
yes,
okay,
thank
you
good
evening.
Vice
mayor
ciao
and
council
members.
My
name
is
gene
bedord
and
I
am
a
cupertino
resident.
I'm
here,
oh
let
me
can
I
see
the
city
clerk.
I
had
a
presentation.
Q
And
it
as
long
as
you
can
see
it,
then
I
can
go
ahead.
The
cover
slide
is
where
I
have
the
archive
logo.
Q
Okay,
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
value
of
city
archives,
which
are
the
historical
record
for
our
city.
They've,
been
overlooked
for
much
too
long,
given
that
cupertino
was
incorporated
in
1955
about
the
same
time
as
our
neighboring
cities
of
saratoga
and
los
alto
next
slide.
Q
The
first
is
our
public
library,
which
does
an
excellent
job,
curating
books
and
magazines,
and
all
that
work
is
done
by
a
staff,
all
other
types
of
historical
materials,
the
photos,
the
ephemeral
materials
and
historically
relevant
artifacts
end
up
with
the
historical
society,
and
that
includes
the
signs
that
we
just
took
down
from
the
cupertino
market
and
as
our
as
our
history
deepens,
the
collection
gets
bigger,
there's
almost
no
storage
at
quinlan's
center,
so
the
society
has
to
pay
for
a
storage
unit.
Q
If
you
can
you
see
that,
yes,
all
right,
the
city
budgets,
approximately
400
000,
for
additional
service
hours
for
the
library?
Q
No
one
questions
that
line
item,
at
least
not
in
the
30
years
that
I've
lived
in
this
city
by
comparison,
the
cupertino
historical
society
has
had
to
literally
beg
to
get
funding
each
year.
Despite
the
fact
that
they've
been
in
operation
since
1966
over
50
years,
it
depends
on
volunteers,
to
staff
the
pointless
center
museum
and
provide
program
rather
than
city
employees.
Q
Q
U
U
I'm
not
going
to
go
over
all
of
the
things
we
do,
because
I
think
you
already
know
and
you've
already
heard.
Other
people
tell
you
about
all
of
our
activities.
U
U
It
would
be
up
to
you
to
determine
the
amount,
but
at
least
thirty
thousand
dollars
a
year
would
help
us
greatly.
Our
history
continues.
Our
collections
continue
to
grow.
We
have
storage
that
we
have
to
pay,
for.
We
have
insurance
that
we
have
to
pay
for
you.
You
understand
what
the
problems
are,
that
we
have
and
bill
kerr
is
here
to
tell
you
about
our
financial
situation.
U
A
You
thank
you.
Sharon
do
I
have
any
written
communication
or
blue
cards
no
vice
mayor.
Neither
thank
you.
Thank
you,
sharon.
I
think
you
are
the
first
one
that
actually
recognized
this
council
has
provided,
has
given
historical
society
more
support
than
any
other
previous
council
since
2019,
and
but
I
actually
did
not
hear
that
from
other
historical
society.
Supporters.
A
A
V
I
just
want
to
begin
by
saying
that
the
cupertino
historical
society
is
greatly
appreciative
of
the
diversity
of
our
community
and
it's
not
easy
to
achieve
a
fair
and
honest
balance,
and
our
work
is
all
about
reflecting
common
values
while
telling
the
story
of
cupertino
and
that's
why
we
were
so
very
proud
to
coordinate
our
recent
visit.
That
you've
heard
a
little
bit
about
in
public
comment
to
angel
island,
and
we
were
so
proud
to
coordinate
that
with
council
and
with
the
office
of
the
mayor,
and
we
look
forward
to
working
with
everyone.
V
I
know
it's
not
easy
and
we
appreciate
all
the
sacrifices
that
you
make
on
behalf
of
the
community,
and
we
also
do
appreciate
the
increased
funding
that
this
council
has
given
us
since
20
2018
and
acknowledge
that
with
great
appreciation.
V
So
with
that
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen.
V
So
I'm
going
to
invite
our
board
president
darrell
stowe,
to
tell
you
a
little
bit
about
our
organization
for
those
of
you
who
are
as
yet
unfamiliar.
B
W
I'm
sorry
yes,
so
this
is
about
us
and,
as
we
say,
the
mission
of
our
organization
is
to
preserve
and
share
cupertino's
past,
strengthen
our
sense
of
community
and
make
property
and
history
available
to
all
it's
a
very
short
expression.
W
It's
a
very
short
expression,
but
it
says
a
lot
about
what
we're
about.
We
are
the.
I
think
it's
important
to
keep
in
mind
that
we
are
the
city's
oldest
and
only
cultural
organization
whose
purpose
is
to
preserve
and
present
cupertino's,
unique
history,
and
you
can
read
the
rest
there,
but
anyway,
the
fact
our
collection
spans
over
100
years
of
our
history.
W
It
contains
over
5,
000
items
of
all
kinds,
manuscripts
and
so
forth
is
very
significant
and
one
of
our
main
strengths
and
as
a
vision
we
inspire
to
represent
all
superhero
citizens,
as
we
meaningfully
share
the
ever-evolving
story
of
cupertino
from
the
broader
audience.
So
that's
about
us
back
to
you,
jennifer.
V
So
we
have
some
some
pictures
to
show
you
most,
notably
in
the
center
you'll
see
the
group
photo
from
our
amazing
trip
that
was
co-led
by
the
office
of
mayor
darcy,
paul
and
the
historical
society
to
angel
island.
V
You
can
see
our
treasurer
bill
kerr
on
the
left,
he's
driving
one
of
our
our
prized
artifacts,
the
kelly
truck,
it's
a
truck
from
the
20s
and
it
we're
moving
it
to
a
new
storage
location
in
this
photo
in
the
top
center.
You
can
see
some
lovely
ladies
who
came
to
visit
us
during
the
cupertino
toyokawa
pop-up
exhibit
that
we
had
in
our
museum
and
members
of
the
san
jose
kimono
club
came
and
dressed
three
of
our
mannequins,
and
we
had
a
who
wore
it
best
boating
system
set
up.
V
You
can
see
the
quinlan
school
of
the
quinlan
preschoolers
with
gail
fretwell
hugger,
our
resident
historian,
one
of
our
museum
docents,
the
preschoolers
came
to
visit
missgale
in
the
museum,
and
it
was
a
great
time
had
by
all
so
I'm
going
to
invite
bill
kerr
to
come
and
speak
with
you
about
our
finances.
He
is
our
intrepid
treasurer
and
we're
just
going
to
give
you
kind
of
an
overview
of
our
finances.
V
This
slide
just
kind
of
gives
you
an
overview
of
our
major
sources
of
funding
and
or
an
income,
and
then
the
next
slide
is
where
I'm
going
to
have
bill.
Talk
to
you
a
bit
more:
where
is
that
slide
there?
We
go
I'll
skip
to
this
slide
and
then
we'll
go
back
bill's
going
to
talk
to
you
a
little
bit
about
our
budget
for
2022
and
what
we're
looking
at
and
our
financial
positions.
X
X
We
do
have
a
smaller
reserve
account
which
we've
been
drawing
down
and,
needless
to
say,
the
the
up
and
downs
of
the
value
of
our
endowment
this
year
has
already.
X
Has
already
been
a
negative
hundred
thousand
dollars
from
the
start
of
the
year
and
again
those
endowment
reserve
accounts
are
in
the
stock
market,
so
we
have
to
pay
a
lot
of
attention
to
those
value.
Yes,
we've
had
some
rises
in
the
value
of
the
endowment
over
the
last
four
or
five
years,
but
now,
just
in
five
months,
we're
looking
at
a
close
to
a
eighty
thousand
dollar
negative
value
of
those
investments.
V
Okay,
we're
gonna
hop
back
here.
This
is
a
very
text
heavy
slide
and
I
will
not
bore
you
by
going
through
and
reading
every
bullet
point,
and
we've
already
discussed
some
of
this
in
public
comment,
but
also
in
individual
presentations
that
we've
given
to
counsel
and
and
the
staff
report.
V
V
Our
museum
we've
recently
hired
a
collections
assistant
who
is
a
trained
professional
when
it
comes
to
collections,
objects,
handling,
cataloging,
researching
all
of
those
items.
I
am
a
trained
museum
professional
all
of
our
docents
are
are
trained
volunteers
and
they
complete
a
one-hour
docent
training
on
zoom,
a
one-hour
training
in
person
and
a
30-minute
interview
individually
with
me
before
being
allowed
to
work
in
the
museum.
If
any
object
handling
is
to
be
part
of
a
job.
There's
an
extensive
object
handling
course
that
we
do
beforehand.
So
we're
not
just
running
things.
V
You
know
it's
not
all
volunteer,
run
in
an
untrained
way.
We
observe
a
museum,
best
practice,
best
practice
standards
with
regard
to
our
object,
handling
and
care
and
standards
regarding
our
the
way
that
we
keep
objects
and
their
conditions
and
all
of
those
things.
V
We
also
partner
with
historic
sites
and
venues
to
host
events
related
to
history
in
the
city's
master
plan,
or
I'm
sorry
in
in
the
general
plan,
the
city
calls
out
specific
locations
around
town
that
are
historical
sites
of
note,
among
them
paul
and
eddie's
piketty,
and
these
are
places
that
we
have
hosted
events,
history,
themed
events
and
we
highlight
in
our
programming.
V
We
promote
the
work
of
local
artists
in
our
newsletter
through
our
exhibit
and
our
public
programming.
Some
examples
include
crystal
tai
and
her
translations
of
chinese
poetry.
We
had
a
whole
evening,
I
think
vice
mayor
chao.
You
came
because
we
had
a
laugh
about
how
it
was
chinese
valentine's
day
and
you
and
your
husband
were
separated.
I
think
he
was
traveling
for
work
and
we
had
musical
performances
that
evening
poetry,
readings.
V
We've
had
traditional
chinese
musicians
come
and
play
for
different
events,
and
so
we
definitely
encourage
and
relish
in
community
participation,
cultural
diversity
and
promoting
the
arts
through
our
programming,
and
we
certainly
are
in
alignment
with
different
aspects
of
the
parks
and
recreation
master
plan,
and
we
acknowledge
that
cupertino
is
a
unique
community
and
residents
do
want
parks
that
emphasize
the
community's
character
and
history
and
we
have
been
working
with
the
bayer
blacksmith
shop.
We've
got
a
long-term
loan
of
artifacts
relating
to
blacksmithing.
V
So,
with
regard
to
the
line
item
versus
putting
us
back
in
community
funding
grant,
I
went
back
because
there
was
quite
a
bit
of
discussion
in
the
parks
and
rec
commission
about
this,
and
I
went
back
and
I've
watched
and
watched.
So
many
commission
meetings
and
I
attended
them,
of
course
as
well,
but
I
went
back
to
2019
and
commissioner
nisha
tombay.
Actually
this
is
my
best
transcription
of
a
quote
from,
and
I've
got
the
minute
markers
from
that
commission
meeting
and
she's.
V
She
said
it
seems
very
odd
for
us
to
designate
an
organization,
a
formal
partner
of
ours,
and
she
also
went
on
to
say
during
that
meeting
that
parks
and
recreation
had
voted
cooper,
t
the
cupertino
historical
society
and
museum.
V
They
had
designated
us
cupertino's
official
archivist
they've,
given
us
that
title
and
designation,
we
never
received
a
certificate
or
any
kind
of
commemoration
of
this,
but
she
did
say
that
during
that
meeting,
but
she
also
went
on
to
say
it
seems
very
odd
for
us
to
designate
an
organization
a
formal
partner
of
ours
and
then
not
give
them
any
money
and
that
there
it
doesn't
seem
to
be
any
point
in
having
partnerships
going
forward.
If
we're
not
going
to
be
putting
our
money
where
our
mouth
is.
V
I
would
ideally
like
for
that
partnership
to
be
something
like
a
city
line
item
now
that
it's
official,
like
sister
cities,
is,
if
there's
a
way
that
in
the
future,
we
can
push
it
to
have
it
treated
like
a
sister
cities
program
instead
of
even
coming
through
this
grant
process.
I
would
like
to
see
that,
but
that's
the
one
that
I
would
like
to
push
a
little
bit
more
for
end
quote.
V
So
as
you
as
you
can
see,
there's
been
support
in
in
parks
and
rec
for
having
us
move
to
a
line
item.
I
think
there's
been
some
question.
You
know
with
what
we
have
listed
as
our
funding.
You
know
what
we've
used
the
money
for,
but
quite
honestly,
when
we've
gotten
the
money
from
the
city,
it
does
go
into
our
budget.
V
I've
tried
to
fit
the
parameters
along
with
the
input
of
my
board,
but
when
I'm
filling
out
the
form
that
we
get
from
the
city,
I've
had
to
fill
out
the
form.
Even
when
we've
had
line
item
funding.
V
I've
tried
to
fit
within
the
quite
literally
the
little
boxes
on
the
form
I've
tried
to
fit
within
those
little
boxes.
Neat
things
that
I
can
neatly
say:
okay,
this
for
this
chunk
of
money
rather
than
nickel
and
diming
okay.
Well,
we
spent
500
on
this
particular
exhibit
and
then
another
thousand
over
here
on
this
exhibit
and
then
this
speaker
event.
V
We
did
this,
and
so
that's
why
there
have
been
expenses
for
the
snyder
hammond
house
included,
which
I
now
realize
might
have
caused
controversy,
and
things
like
that
and
and
we've
we've
opened
our
book
to
to
each
of
you
and
to
the
subcommittee,
and
I
hope
that
that
transparency
is
appreciated.
V
A
Thank
you,
jennifer.
Let's
bring
it
back
to
the
council.
Do
we
have
any
questions
or
comments
from
the
council
council
member
whitney?
I
see
your
hand
up.
G
G
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Okay.
So
then
I'll
go
with
one
of
the
first
slides
in
rachel's
presentation,
2019
budget
line
item
2020
budget
line
item
2021
one-time
allocation.
I
don't
understand
how
that
happened.
How
did
something
that
already
was
a
line
item
get
knocked
into
a
one-time
allocation?
Can
rachel
answer
that
one.
R
Yeah,
so
during
that
meeting
is
when
the
subcommittee
was
created,
and
so
when
that
was
created,
the
motion
was
to
have
it
be
a
one-time
budget
line
item
so
that
we
could
figure
out
what
was
going
to
happen
moving
forward.
G
Okay,
well
well,
I'll
definitely
have
the
couple
things
to
say
about
moving
forward,
but
I'll
I'll
back
up
and
say:
okay,
the
importance
of
the
history
of
this
community
to
the
community.
G
To
me
just
cannot
be
overestimated.
Every
night,
with
my
three
kids
at
dinnertime,
I
say
what
did
you
learn
today?
How
was
your
day
and,
of
course
it's
usually
reading,
writing
and
arithmetic
and
basketball,
but
when
they
do
say
something
about,
you
know,
history,
nature,
something
that
the
teacher
taught
you
name
it,
my
oldest
when
he
went
to
blackberry
farm
to
the
center.
That
was
there
and
had
that
talk
about
man,
just
an
amazing
thing,
there's
more
to
life
than
reading,
writing
and
arithmetic.
G
You
know
I
mean
we
need
to
know
where
we
came
from
and
we
need
to
be
real
people
and
you
guys
are
a
big
part
of
that
without
you,
you
know,
I
just
don't
think
the
the
history
would
last
very
long
at
all.
So
that
being
said,
thanking
you
so
much.
You
do
such
an
amazing
job.
I'm
definitely
a
fan,
an
advocate
of
a
budget
line
item
and
I
sometimes
I
want
to
be
like
apple
tonight.
I
want
to
be
like
apple
tonight
and
say
I
think
we
should
go
big.
G
G
A
H
Thank
you
vice
mayor,
I
I'm
one
of
the
subcommittees
and
I
remember
in
2021
the
spring
when
the
community
funding
was
being
discussed.
This
line
item
was
pulled
by
councilmember
moore
because
she
had
some
questions,
so
we
decided
to
do
it
a
one
time
just
for
council
member
willie's
reference
and
then
I
think,
councilmember
moore
and
I
were
assigned
to
the
subcommittee
to
investigate
and
work
with
the
historic
society
and
understand
it.
We
did
have
a
good
tool
of
the
hammond
house.
H
We
met
with
the
board
and
I
do
have
a
intern
with
me,
but
I
she
she
took
this
as
a
project
and
she
went
to
a
tour
with
us
and
she
interviewed
the
board
members
and
us
separately.
I
did
not
direct
her
to
do
anything
except
to
write
a
report
of
her
research
and
see
what
she
thinks
of
the
line
items,
so
I
did
send
a
report
to
councilman
moore
on
september.
H
I
only
sent
it
to
council
member
moore
because
we're
the
two
community-
you
know
the
subcommittee
members
and
I
did
send
it
to
intern
city
manager,
greg
larson,
but
I
did
not
send
to
the
other
three
born
three
council
members,
because
it
wasn't
it
wasn't
on
the
lion
yet,
but
this
this
time
around
since
this
on
the
agenda,
I
did
ask
the
city
manager
to
send
a
report
to
all
five
of
us
again
just
to
refresh
what
this
intern
says,
because
this
intern
already
went
to
college,
but
she
was
under
age.
H
So
I
didn't
want
to
reveal
her
name,
and
I
want
to
say
something
personal
about
this:
I'm
not
a
board
member
of
the
historic
society,
but
I
am
a
first
generation
immigrant
and
you
know
I.
I
really
appreciate
what
the
historic
society
has
shown
me.
I
remember
vividly
the
one
of
the
first
exhibits
that
I
went
to
quilling
center
was
a
history
of
nursery
in
cupertino
and
they
were.
The
owners
were
chinese.
American
and
japanese
american
immigrants,
and
I
was
really
touched
because
you
know
this
home.
H
I
call
cupertino
my
hometown
now,
but
I
didn't
realize
that
the
history
really
encompasses
asian
americans
so
and
then
so
I
started
to
support
the
historic
society
activities
went
to
their
annual
barbecues.
H
I
just
feel
that
our
cupertino
is
so
unique
with
so
many
immigrant
families,
especially
first
generation
immigrants
here
and
soda
it's
more
important
to
preserve
our
history,
the
history
of
cupertino,
to
show
these
immigrants
like
me,
who
become
part
of
cupertino
by
living
here
and
be
part
of
the
culture
but
learn
the
history
of
cupertino.
H
H
I
do
believe
that
in
2019
and
2020
you
know
councilmember
moore
and
I
both
were
not
on
council,
but
this
became
a
line
item,
and
so
I
can
only
figure
because
council
then
real
night
realizes
the
importance
of
having
cupertino
history
being
preserved
by
a
volunteer
organization,
but
also
needs
support
because
of
the
artifacts
and
the
rental
and
everything
and-
and
so
I
think,
when
we
did
the
as
a
subcommittee,
we
did
the
tours.
H
H
F
All
right,
thank
you
and
yes,
I
served
on
the
subcommittee
with
council
member
way
and
we
got
to
tour
the
snyder
hammond
house.
We
reviewed
the
the
agreement
with
the
lehigh
cement
talked
about
stocklemire.
What
could
be
done
there
and
had
some
discussion
about
potentials
with
the
the
bletch
house
as
well?
F
So
I
I
just
going
slightly
off
topic,
but
I
I
really
have
appreciated
the
historical
buildings
which
we
have
at
mcclellan
preserve
and
I
we
do
have
the
the
bletch
house
and
stockholmer
on
our
work
plan
to
have
some
discussions
about
them.
Moving
forward
and
it's
a
very
open,
open,
ended,
work
plan
items.
So
there's
no
one
saying
it's
going
they're
going
to
become
this
or
that
with
regards
to
snyder
hammond,
because
it
does
need
work.
F
My
personal
wish
would
be
that
the
open
pen
op
the
mid
pen,
open
space
preserve,
would
consider
taking
it
over
and
seeing
if
they
could
use
it
for
housing
for
their
rangers.
Now,
as
to
the
the
line
item,.
F
There
has
been
some
concern
expressed
about
knowing
where
the
funds
would
be
going,
and
I
I
really
there
was
one
statement
that
about
the
historical
society
needing
to
beg
for
the
20
000
and
for
members
of
the
public
who
watched
the
the
previous
agenda
item.
I
really,
I
you
know,
feel
feel
your
pain
there.
F
F
There
was
some
suggestion
that
we
have
a
council
member
placed
on
the
cupertino
historical
society
board,
but
I
don't
feel
that
that's
a
a
request
that
we
can
that
we
can
make.
It
seems
it
seems
unfair,
but
having
accountability
for
where
the
funding
goes
and
having
ongoing
funding.
As
like
a
a
line
item,
I
think,
could
could
be
a
way
to
address
the
the
concerns
of
the
public
with
regards
to
spending
public
tax
dollars
and
provide
that
accountability
and
and
and
make
it
work
with
regards
to
changing
the
dollar
amount.
F
F
So
I'm
I'm
wondering
if,
if,
if
staff
were
to
consider
a
hybrid
to
provide
accountability
that
it
we
could
have
some
kind
of
an
agreement
that
could
be
perhaps
five
years
long,
we
could
look
at
the
amount
after
one
year
and
because
we
don't
have
the
twenty
thousand
dollar
original
cap
that
that
amount
could
be
suggested
to
be
a
different
starting
point
and
then,
and
then
we
see,
we
see
how
it
goes
after
that
time
after
we
could
make
an
adjustment
after
a
year,
perhaps
and
and
see
how
see
how
it's
working.
F
A
Thank
you.
So
I
think
when
back
in
2019,
I
think
council,
member
willie
and
I
are
the
ones
who
suggested
to
support
the
lion
item.
We
don't
yeah.
We
also
agree
that
it
doesn't
make
sense
for
historical
society
to
try
and
apply
for
grant
every
year,
but
seeing
what
we
went
through
with
the
chamber
of
commerce.
A
Then
someone
will
be
asking
what's
this
twenty
thousand
dollars
for
and
no
one
knows
why
and
then
there
was
this
line
item
with
no
contract,
and
I
think
we
should
not
let
that
happen.
Therefore,
the
one
time
a
location
was
so
that
the
society
and
the
city
could
work
out
an
agreement
before
june,
but
I
was
disappointed
that
there
was
no,
it
doesn't
seem
to
be
an
urgency
to
try
and
work
some
agreement
out
after
we
have
funded
the
lying
item
for
three
years.
A
I
I
was
hoping
that
some
things
should
be
worked
on
already
on,
but
we
can
always
start
now.
I
do
have
some
question
about
the
current
status,
so
the
staff
report
included
a
contract
for
the
quinlan
museum
space
for
1992
to
1996,
but
there
was
no
contract
after
that.
R
We
do
actually
get
that
through
the
fact
that
they
use
our
rooms.
So,
yes,
we
do
have
their
insurance
on
file.
A
A
A
A
Back
okay,
that
would
be
interesting
to
know,
but
I
think
the
comparison
with
the
library
is
an
interesting
one.
However,
the
library
has
a
library,
joint
powers
authority
to,
and
also
the
library,
commission
and
the
team
library
team
commission
to
allow
the
public
to
provide
the
feedback
and
input
on
what
how
the
library
serves
the
community.
A
A
G
Great
hey.
Thank
you
vice
mayor
fellow
councilman,
thank
you
for
for
for
positive
comments.
Okay,
so
if
tonight
we
can't
make
a
formal
item,
then
I
would
make
a
give
staff
direction.
My
my
request-
and
this
is
now
adjusted
for
the
other
council-
that
we
request
finance
to
work
out
a
contract
with
the
historical
society
and
that
it'll
be
a
a
contractual
thing.
G
A
a
yearly
line
item
budget
line
item
that
it
would
require
the
historical
society
to
yearly
provide
a
brief
listing
of
events
and
expenses
and
a
not
to
exceed
left
over
going
into
reserves
of,
say,
ten
thousand
dollars
on
a
yearly
basis
with
a
maximum
of
like
thirty
thousand
dollars.
G
G
But
if,
at
the
end
of
the
year,
let's
say
that
it
was
55
thousand
dollars
that
got
spent
and
they
had
left
over
6
65.
G
I
don't
think
we
should
go
in
diamond
that
then
could
be
kind
of
a
buffer
that
could
go
into
their
reserves,
not
to
exceed
ten
thousand
dollars
in
any
one
year,
not
to
exceed
thirty
thousand
dollars
total
accumulation,
so
that
once
they
hit
that
thirty
thousand
dollars,
if
the
subsequent
year
had
an
excess,
they
would
then
just
be
returning
it
to
us
at
the
end
of
the
year,
but
then
on
a
a
very
bad
economic
year
and
they're
in
the
red
that
they
would
naturally
be
taking
from
the
the
previous
reserve
leftovers
they
had.
G
So
I
would
be
saying
that
finance
in
the
historical
society
create
this
contractual
understanding
agreement
for
a
yearly
listing
of
the
events
I
mean
we
already
heard
exhibits
lectures,
traveling
trunk,
webinars,
book
clubs
tours
things
like
that.
We
don't
have
to
know
exactly
eight
hours
on
this
day.
Nothing
like
that.
G
You
had
these
different
events
and
you're
you're
very
under
under
age.
So
to
speak,
especially
with
so
many
volunteers
and
and
jennifer.
We
couldn't.
We
couldn't
pay
you
enough
for
what
you
do.
So
I
I
just
don't
want
to
see
us
out.
You
know
a
a
very
cheap
approach,
so
that's
my
fellow
council
come
up
with
some
some
tweaks
on
that,
but
I
would
think
bring
it
back
to
us
as
an
agenda
item.
G
H
H
V
The
deficit
we
make
up
the
difference
with
the
four
percent
that
we
take
from
our
endowment,
the
reserve
account
and.
H
A
J
R
R
So
it
depends
on
the
student
delegations
how
much
is
reimbursable
each
year
and
then
once
every
five
years
the
city
gives
an
extra
5
000
for
an
adult
delegation.
So
it
really
depends
on
what
they
do
in
their
delegations.
But
there
is
money
awarded
to
them.
R
E
A
Motion,
I
think
we
are
just
giving
direction
for
what
to
bring
back.
So
I
would
like
to
see
an
agreement
for
facility
use
of
the
queensland
museum
space
and
other
meeting
spaces
in
queensland
that
they
they
are
giving
free
access
to.
A
So,
let's
formalize
that
and
also
I
would
like
to
see
an
agreement
or
mou
between
the
city
and
the
cupertino
historical
society
to
clarify
what
services
cupertino
historical
society
will
provide
and
what
processes
will
be
used
to
ensure
transparency
and
accountability
for
taxpayer
dollars,
so
that
we
avoid
what
we
have
gone
through
for
the
chamber
of
commerce
earlier
this
evening.
It's
really
not
trying
to
pick
on
any
organization.
It's
just.
A
A
And
allow
public
to
provide
input.
I
think
the
cupertino
society
has
a
lot
of
good
things
planned
and
the
public
it
will
be
great,
for
this
also
allow
the
public
to
get
engaged
and
get
excited
about
the
programs
and
if
they
can
provide
input,
they
might
even
donate
more
to
the
society
and
I'd
like
to
consider
city
council
representation
on
the
cupertino
society
board.
I
know
that
in
saratoga,
hakone
garden
they
have
city
council
representatives.
A
There
also,
I
think,
that's
a
possibility
so,
but
I
mean
these
are
all
just
potential
things
to
consider
and
I
actually
would
like
to
consider
potential
partial
funding
for
staffing.
I
I
think
it's
really
really
hard
to
sustain
an
organization
based
on
volunteer.
Only
and
a
sustainable
organization
really
need
a
stable
staff,
but
this
is
only
provided
that
there
is
a
strong
oversight
by
the
city
on
the
staff
work
if
we
provide
any
staff
funding.
I
understand.
A
A
So
we
do
really
with
the
paid
staff,
maybe
do
more
outreach
to
raise
more
funding.
This
way
we
really
bring
the
community
to
support
this
really
great
cause,
and
I
think
council
member
moore
mentioned
a
hybrid
method
which
I'm
not
exactly
sure
and
potentially
a
three
to
five
year
agreement.
So
we
don't
have
to
revisit
this
every
year.
F
F
What
we
want
is
to
have
some
accountability,
because
it
is,
it
is
taxpayer
dollars,
and
we
have
a
responsibility
with
that.
Some
of
the
things
with
regards
to
the
city
council
representative,
on
the
chs
board-
I
I
don't
know
how
the
society
feels
about
that.
To
me,
I
I
view
them
as
an
autonomous
organization
and
their
articles
of
incorporation
might
have
to
be
altered.
F
So
I'm
not
sure
that
we
would
need
to
press
the
issue
of
having
representatives
on
on
their
board,
but
it
would
be
good
for
staff
to
reach
out
to
the
board
and
see
what
their
thoughts
are
on
it
when
they
come
back.
That
would
be
yeah.
F
H
I
I
do
like
your
potential
methods
to
consider
because
the
staff
have
something
to
go
about
and
then
consult
with
the
historic
society
board.
Yes,
I
agree
with
councilmember
more
on
cupertino
high
school
board.
Probably
it's
not
a
good
idea,
because
then
that
person
that
council
member
will
have
to
recruit
himself
or
herself
from
voting
for
funding,
maybe
a
liaison
just
like
we
have
liaisons
for
sister
cities.
I
think
that
will
work.
F
Through
the
vice
mayor
council
member
way
would
that
be
like
a
committee
assignment
the
liaison
so.
H
That's
that's
what
I
meant:
okay,
like
a
council
like
a
community
assignment.
Yes,.
F
Just
you,
we
would
need
to
check
if
the
historical
society
has
to
have
their
meetings
be
open
because,
like
I
said
about
their
autonomy,
I
want
to
respect
respect
that
so
that
would
have
to
be
something
that
staff
would
could
check
in
and
see
what
their,
what
their
bylaws
state
and
to
see.
If
that
could
happen,.
A
So
in
some
way,
if
they
would
like
more
funding
from
the
city
which
might
even
be
50
percent
of,
I
mean
sustainable
funding
from
the
city
and
then
they
don't
have
any
scheme
in
the
game,
then
then
right.
So
this
is
something
they
need
to
seriously
consider
if
you
would
like
sustainable
funding
from
the
city.
Maybe
a
multi-year
agreement.
A
From
a
public
agency
with
taxpayer
dollars,
then
yeah
you
might
and
and
this
it's
not
really
a
losing
of
autonomy,
it's
really
that
they
get.
They
have
this
chance
to
really
engage
with
the
public
right
and
then
with
more
engagement
of
the
public.
They
could
probably
get
more
donation
and
funding
more
visibility
in
the
community.
A
So
I
think
in
the
long
term
run
it's
a
good
thing
so
yeah,
so
that's
just
for
we
can
consider
that
yeah.
H
E
H
E
A
E
F
P
F
G
If
you
could
put
your
your
proposal
back
just
the
mere
fact
that
it's
there,
you
know
visuals
to
help
us,
and
then
I
want
to
kind
of
point
out.
So
I
I
hear
the
the
interest
in
their
fundraising,
but
I
I
just
don't
want
to
trap
them.
To
that
part.
G
Maybe
maybe
do
a
little
bit
of
research.
You
know
I'm
a
big
fan
of
san
diego
san
diego
has
balboa
park
just
like
golden
gate
park
in
san
francisco
side
of
the
world's
fair
back
in
like
19,
something
their
their
zoo
is
there
balboa
park.
They
have
13
museums
and
the
way
that
they,
I
believe,
the
way
they
keep
the
entrance
fee
to
those
museums
to
an
affordable
rate
for
families
to
bring
their
their
their
kids
in
there
and
experience.
G
Then
it's
got
to
be
with
city
funding.
If
they
were
to
tell
balboa
park
go
fund
raised,
I'm
telling
you
the
the
cost
to
go
to
those
museums,
the
museum
of
man,
the
art
museum,
the
photo
museum,
the
car
museum,
the
air
and
space
museum,
the
sports
and
mobilia
museum.
It
goes
on
and
on
all
those
things
are.
What
give
life
you
know
an
important
way
of
giving
life
to
the
community
that
those
kids
are
growing
up,
getting
to
experience
all
that.
G
G
G
Let's
not
they've
been
underfunded
for
way
too
long,
it's
it.
I
actually
think
it's
amazing
that
they're
still
still
able
to
to
keep
on
going
in
our
community
with
with
the
struggle
that
they've
been
saddled
with.
So
I'd
like
to
see
the
60
000
and
in
the
future,
I'd
like
to
be
recommending
what
they
get
from
fundraising
may
lower
the
amount
that
they
feel
they
need.
We
have
a
maximum
allowable
for
reserves,
and
so
let
it
let
it
be
at
that
and
let
them
serve
the
community
so.
A
Thank
you,
council,
member
willie.
So
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
in
the
comparatives
that
analysis,
the
staff
has
prepared
on
all
the
and
also
all
the
other
museums
that
you
mentioned.
They
do
seek
on
a
lot
of
donations.
A
I
think
none
of
them
are
running
without
donation,
and
I
see
that
in
the
comparative
analysis
for
other
cities,
their
museum
is
raised
on
from
1.5
million
on
to
I
think
3
million.
Just
there
is
a
very
significant
amount
of
more
donations
raised,
but
for
cupertino
society
in
cupertino
such
a
wealthy
city,
the
amount
raised
is
like
50,
sorry
90,
so
95
is
their
budget.
I
don't
know
how
much
is
the
amount
raised.
A
So
the
idea
of
a
minimum
commitment
of
fundraising
goals
goals
means
if
they
don't
need
it,
it's
okay,
but
let's
set
a
goal.
Why?
Because
I
would
like
to
see
the
museum
to
even
eventually
have
a
full-time
staff,
and
if
you
don't
have
that,
if
you
don't
push
for
more
fund
so
that
to
so
that
you
can
really
get
this
funding
from
the
community
it.
You
can
really
have
a
full-time
staffer
that
really
make
the
museum
reach
its
full
potential
to
reach
their
full
potential.
A
I
think
you
do
want
to
the
city
to
provide
some
funding,
but
the
museum
can
eventually
can
sustain
on
its
own.
I
think
one
of
the
museum
I
forgot,
which
city
they
initially
started
with
some
partial
funding
from
the
city,
but
eventually
they
raised
enough
funding.
They
don't
need
any
city
funding
anymore
to
sustain
so,
and
I
think
I'm
not
comfortable
with
racing
to
60
000,
at
least
time
until
we
maybe
see
how
this
works,
whether
the
accountability
works
for
two
years
and
then
we
may
revisit
and-
and
we
may
raise
the
amount.
H
A
H
Yeah,
so
may
I
make
a
friendly
amendment
to
add
what
you
just
said:
oh
they
don't
need
to
consider
every
item
and
they
come
up
with.
You
know
different
items,
additional
items.
Yes,.
A
Okay,
it's
11
18..
We
have
two
more
items
left:
let's
do
a
five
minute
break
and
then
hopefully
we
can
get
through
the
two
items
quickly.
A
O
R
All
right,
so
this
time
we
have
a
fine
arts,
commission
name
change
so
good
evening.
Honorable
vice
mayor
and
city
council
members,
the
agenda
tonight
will
be
fiscal
year.
2122
city
work
program,
item
santa
clara
county
arts,
commission
name
comparison,
the
community
survey
and
survey
results
and
the
ordinance
to
update
the
cupertino
municipal
code.
R
The
fiscal
year
2021-2022
city
work
program
has
an
item
related
to
the
fine
arts
commission,
consider
new
commissions
and
committee
with
a
partial
objective
of
fine
arts.
Name
change
changed
the
name
of
the
fine
arts
commission
to
broaden
the
reach
of
potential
interest
and
align
with
commission
goals.
R
At
the
january
24th
fine
arts,
commission,
meeting
arts
commission
names
were
reviewed
from
13
santa
clara
county
cities.
The
commission
put
forward
two
options
for
the
name:
change
arts
and
culture
commission
as
the
first
choice
and
culture,
visual
and
performing
arts
commission.
As
the
second
at
the
march
28
fine
arts
commission
meeting
staff
presented
a
draft
survey
proposal
for
community
outreach
using
the
names
commission
put
forward
at
their
january
24th
meeting.
The
draft
survey
proposal
was
discussed
and
approved
with
commission
update
the
fine
arts.
R
The
survey
was
marketed
through
a
project
page
on
engage
cupertino
social
media
posts
throughout
the
open
survey
dates
two
email
blasts
over
the
course
of
survey
were
sent
out
to
over
900
community
members
that
had
had
shown
interest
through
the
city
website
in
the
fine
arts
commission
commissions
in
general
and
general
city
business.
R
The
commissioners
also
shared
the
survey
to
help
spread
the
word.
The
survey
received
36
responses,
staff
compiled
the
survey,
responses
for
commission
feedback
and
final
recommendation
to
city
council
at
the
may,
23rd
fine
arts,
commission
meeting
staff
presented
the
survey
results.
The
community
response
to
question
2
about
the
name.
Change
was
25
for
cultural,
visual
and
performing
arts,
commission
25
for
fine
arts,
commission,
no
name
change
and
50
for
arts
and
culture.
Commission.
A
Thank
you
rachel,
let's
see,
do
we
have
any
public
comment,
no
one
raised
their
hand
in
zoom
how
about
email
or
flowcards.
F
Okay,
thank
you.
It
really
appears
that
there
is
overwhelming
support
for
this
name
change
and
I
I
believe
we
should
move
along
and
support
the
recommended
action.
I'm
just
for
purposes
of
discussion.
I
believe
it
would
be
that
that
I
would
move
that
ordinance
number
22-224-1
be
read
by
title
only
and
that
the
city
clerk's
reading
constitute
the
first
reading
thereof.
I
don't
know
that
I
need
to
read
this
entire
paragraph.
I
believe
the
clerk
would
be
doing
that.
E
G
Yeah
I'll
just
say
that
anything
that
moves
things
forward
in
terms
of
community
engagement,
community
involvement,
I
support,
and
if
the
arts
and
cultural
commission
will
do
a
better
job
of
conveying
what
this
commission
is
all
about
and
potential
community
residents
that
would
then
oh,
maybe
I'd
like
to
be
on
that.
Then
I
think
it's
a
good
thing,
so
I
don't
see
any
drawback.
H
I
just
want
to
make
one
comment,
because
when
I
was
reading
this
ordinance
I
was
a
little
confused
because
number
seven
19.102.040
talks
about
outdoor
lighting
requirements,
so
I
thought
it
was
like
a
maybe
a
mistake,
copy
and
paste,
but
then
the
staff
advised
me
that
there
is
one
place
that
they
need
to
change:
the
fine
arts
commission
to
the
arts
and
culture
commission.
I
just
want
to
clarify
that
you
know
thanks
staff
for
letting
me
know
that.
A
Okay,
thank
you
any
other
comment.
I
do
have
a
question
on
so
the
ordinance
only
makes
the
name
change
and
then
there
is
so
the
in
the
powers
and
functions
basically
rather
than
fine
arts.
It's
all
changed
to
arts
and
culture.
So
we
don't
need
any
other
additional
functions
for
the
this
committee
right.
A
N
I
believe
the
arts
the
what
will
be
the
arts
and
culture
commission-
plays
a
role
in
administering
the
the
percent
for
the
art
requirement
for
for
public
art.
That's
that's
required
for
development.
So
that's
that's,
but
that's
in
a
different
section
of
the
code
than
the.
N
N
I
believe
I
will
defer
to
to
to
staff,
but
I
believe
that.
N
E
H
So
if
you
look
at
the
ordinance
number
nine
19.148.0
application
procedures
for
public
artwork,
I
think
it
is
in
the
the
fine
arts
and
culture
commission
does
have
reference
to
that.
A
Yeah,
I
think
it
should
be
mentioned,
maybe
when
in
the
first
reading
we
can
just
make
it
more
complete
that
the
powers
and
function
captures
everything
it
does.
P
E
F
The
application
procedure
for
public
art
work,
the
decision
of
the
fine
arts
commission
may
be
appealed
and
they're
referring
to
the
fine
arts
commission
so
unfortunately,
and
it's
showing
up
in
another
area
here
as
well
the
design
criteria,
I
think,
while
we
can
make
the
change
for
this
section,
I
think
we
might
need
to
see
an
update
to
the
required
artwork
chapter.
F
So
there's
a
recommendation
by
the
fine,
the
arts
and
culture
commission,
but
then
the
city
council
would
also
get
to
weigh
in
especially
if
you're
looking
at
something
that
you
know
a
500
000
piece
of
piece
of
art,
for
instance,
we
might
want
to
have
some
say
so
about
it:
yeah,
okay,
thank.
A
You,
okay,
thank
you.
So
I
have
a
question
on.
I
was
actually
surprised
that
we
need
to
go
out
and
do
a
survey
for
the
name
change.
That
seems
to
be
simple,
but
the
survey
wasn't
done,
which
is
great,
I'm
just
curious
how
much
staff
time
and
hours
is
needed
for
this
type
of
survey.
So
I
have
some
idea.
R
R
So
it
does
talk
about
public
art
in
that
section,
but
just
for
your
knowledge,
with
the
survey
so
survey
development,
marketing
efforts
updates
to
the
commission,
all
of
that
took
about
40
hours
of
staff,
time
that
includes
staff
reports
and
everything.
The
survey
was
done
with
four
different
questions.
We
actually
used
this
survey
to
not
only
just
talk
about
the
name
change,
but
ask
people
their
ideas
of
what
kind
of
art
and
where
they
would
like
to
see
art
in
the
city.
R
So
we
did
use
it
for
that
purpose
also,
which
I
have
to
say
when
I
read
the
responses.
It
was
very
interesting
and
helpful
for
the
commission,
but
the
survey
itself
didn't
cost
us
anything
because
we
went
through
engaged
cupertino
and
we
didn't
do
like
paper
marketing.
We
just
did
it
through
the
emails
we
got
from
the
city
website,
so
there
was
no
actual
fee
toward
postcards
or
anything
like
that.
A
F
I
was
wondering
if
the
city
attorney
might
have
a
suggestion
where
my
motion
could
be
altered
to
somehow
encompass
the
the
chapter
19.148
naming
problem,
wherein
my
motion
would
be
amended
to
state
that
references
to
the
fine
arts
commission
in
chapter
19.148
will
be
edited
updated
to
reflect
the
new
name
of
the
arts
and
culture
commission.
If
that's,
if
that's
possible,
perhaps
we
can
get
that
done
altogether.
N
F
N
I'm
I'm
looking
at
attachment
c
to
the
agenda
packet,
which
is
a
black
line
version
of
the
ordinance,
and
it
shows.
O
F
A
So
that's
a
recommended
action,
but
I
think
I
was
trying
to
make
an
amendment
to
update
the
section
about
powers
and
functions
because
I
don't
think
number
eight
foster
the
development
of
public
art
within
the
community
accurately
capture
the
roles
of
this
commission
things.
They
do
approve
public
art.
O
E
F
That
would
be
thank
you
vice
mayor.
That
would
be
a
future
agenda
item
to
look.
O
F
A
A
bit
of
discussion,
okay,
so
could
could
I
still
make
a
friendly
amendment
so
that
at
least
the
powers
and
functions
are
consistent
with
other
sections
of
the
municipal
code.
So
this
section
captures
on
what
the
other
section
says
that
this
commission
will
do
in
the
next
when
it
comes
back
for
second
reading.
N
N
So
so,
I'm
not
sure
if
council
member
moore
could
craft
you
know
a
a
emotion
that
incorporates
your
friendly
amendment,
that
that
makes
sense.
But
I'll
leave
that
to
her
I
mean,
but
you
do.
F
F
So,
okay,
so
vice
mayor,
I'm
not
sure
I
quite
understand
but
you're
looking
at
2.80.080
powers
and
functions,
and
I
would
think
that
you're
trying
to
encapsulate
the
culture
item.
So
it
could
be
that
where
it
says
fine
arts
that
it
is
like
for
be
one
act
as
a
catalyst
for
the
promotion
of
fine
arts.
There.
You
go
simple:
well,
no.
A
I
mean
we
want
to
keep
the
arts
and
culture
concern
that
the
one
of
the
very
important
function
of
fine
art
commission
is
to
review
public
art
and
approve
them.
A
And
but
here
it's
mentioned
in
number,
eight-
that
it
will
foster
the
development
of
public
art
within
the
community,
which
doesn't
really
reflect
the
legal
requirement
of
approving
public
art
and
which
is
mentioned
in
other
sections
of
the
municipal
code
that
they
actually
review.
Applications
of
public
art.
A
E
A
A
N
Yeah
I
mean
I
I
don't,
I
don't
think
there's
it
would
be
any
inconsistency
in
the
municipal
code,
but
it's
it's
up
to
council
to
decide
whether
you
know
it
wants
to
direct
staff
to
make
additional
amendments.
A
To
I
think,
a
public
member
or
a
future
commissioner,
would
be
reading
a
fine
art
commission
page
and
they
usually
will
be
directed
to
the
powers
and
functions
to
understand
what
this
commission
does
and
then
they
would
read
this
and
did
not
realize
there
are
some
extra
functions.
That's
not
mentioned
here.
N
N
Would
happen
in
practice.
Is
that
that
you
know
there
would
be
an
you
know,
a
a
public
art
proposal
and
that
that
would
come
to
the
commission
and
they
would
review
it,
and
you
know
they
would.
You
know
it
would
be
put
on
the
agenda
by
staff,
because
it's
a
legal
requirement
for
the
condition
commission
to
perform.
But,
but
again
this
is.
This
is.
J
A
So,
council,
member
more,
do
you
think
we
should
make
it
clear
what
the
powers
and
functions
cover
the
legal
requirement
to
on
public
art.
E
F
F
So
I'm
changing
the
language
of
of
item
eight
is
is
a
little
bit
complicated.
So
I'd
like
to
hear.
O
F
Staff
has
some
suggestion
for
that,
but
but
to
the
the
managers
point
their
when,
when
the
projects
are
approved,
the
it
ends
up
going
to
the
fine
arts,
the
arts
and
culture
commission
in
order
to
see
what
art
they
have
selected.
E
E
O
F
Of
the
municipal
code,
like
that,
the
kind
of
doing
that
cross
reference-
and
we
do
have
we-
we
do
see
this
this
issue
with
certain
other
projects
where
it
might
like
a
development
project,
might
have
a
part
of
density
bonus
and
the
subdivision
part
of
the
municipal
code,
where
you've
got
to
pull
up
several
different.
You
know
sections
in
order
to
determine
what
the
requirements
all
are
like,
for
instance,
just
looking
at
parks,
some
parts
of
of
parks
reside
in
different
areas
of
the
municipal
code
and
yeah.
B
O
J
Vice
mayor
yeah
jump
in
sorry
again,
given
the
the
time.
E
J
This
item,
though,
it's
not
large,
we
do
not
have
a
very
full
agenda
for
the
july
7th
meeting
so.
J
A
E
F
I
read
this
item
22.
We
only
have
three
members
on
the
environmental
review
committee
and
my
my
expectation,
perhaps
it
was
incorrect,
was
that
we
would
have
a
five-member
committee
with.
F
I
thought
it
would
perhaps
be
three
members,
two
of
council,
one
of
planning,
commission
and
two
staff
members,
so
you
can
bring
it
back
and
have
that
discussion,
but
it
would
be
great
if
we
could
have
just
a
moment
to
talk
about
the
future
agenda
items.
A
F
And
table
or
show
yeah
move
the
move
that
we
bring
this
back
to
the
that
would
be
the
next.
A
A
F
Member
more,
I
would
like
to
see
the
public
art
guidelines
brought
to
council
for
discussion,
especially
given
the
the
more
we've
got,
larger
projects
which
are
generating
a
lot
more
of
public
art
funding
than
we
perhaps
had
anticipated.
There
used
to
be
a
hundred
thousand
dollar
cap,
and
now
you
can
very
foreseeably
end
up
with
a
300
000
or
more
going
into
a
public
art
fund,
and
I
so
I
would
like
to
have
that.
Come
back
to
council
and
then
we
had
the
chamber
items
which
you
had
encapsulated
very
well
earlier.
G
So
I'm
wondering
if
we
need
a
agenda
item,
we
had
the
emails
from
the
resident
that
wants
to
divide
their
lot
and
do
a
flag
shape
for
which
they
were
being
denied.
Has
that
been
resolved,
I
mean
I
did
send
emails
a
couple
times
back
and
forth
with
them.
I
think
other
councilmen
did
too
if
it
has
not
been
resolved
as
to
whether
flag
lots
are
allowed
in
terms
of
lot
flip
for
sp
9,
then
I
think
it
needs
to
come
back
as
a
study
item
for
us.
N
That
won't
be
coming
back
as
a
study
item.
It
will
be
coming
back
as
as
a
permanent
ordinance
to
replace
the
interim
sb9
ordinance,
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
we
will
look
at
is
whether
you
know
the
the
current
ordinance
per
council
direction
does
restrict
flag
lots
on
wider
lots
and
then
requires
flag
lots
on
certain
other
lots.
We
could.
N
Offer
the
council
the
option
of
including
more
flexibility
in
the
permanent
ordinance,
so
so
that,
but
so
that
that
will
be
coming
back.
You
know
the
goal
is
to
bring
it
back
soon.
Certainly
this
year.
G
No,
the
question
that
I
would
still
have
I
mean
we
have
somebody
that's
in
limbo
if
it
hasn't
been
resolved,
but
I'm
thinking
they
can
come
and
present
and
request.
Okay,
they
get
denied
by
staff.
They
would
then
go
to
the
planning
commission
which
may
approve
it
or
if
the
planning
commission
were
not
to
approve
it,
then
they
could
appeal
to
the
city
council.
Am
I
correct?
I
don't
want
to
give
them
incorrect
advice.
G
No,
I
just
want
to
know
what
I
should
be
telling
them
about.
You
know
moving
forward
with
their
their
project,
so
okay,
yeah.
G
A
Okay,
thank
you.
Actually,
I
would
like
to
make
the
request
that
I've
made
before
that
is.
We
should
have
a
discretionary
approval
procedure
for
lot,
split
and
or
duplex
that
for
projects
that
do
not
satisfy
sb9
ordinance
that
the
ct
consider
because
sb9
does
require
administration
approval
without
any
appeal
and
without
any
public
hearing.
So
I
think
that
should
be
restrictive,
but
then,
at
the
same
time
we
should
allow
discretionary
approval
like
flag
lot.
It's
complicated.
N
E
N
A
A
And
then
on
I'd
like
to
restate
that,
I
hope
we
can't
can
clarify
the
powers
and
functions
section
for
the
fine
arts
for
the
arts
and
cultural
commission
so
that
it
captures
on
everything
it
does
that
way.
The
public
doesn't
have
to
go
around
and
the
future
communicationers
don't
have
to
go
around
and
find
what
exactly
this
commission
does
and
then
also.
A
I
want
to
just
to
reshare
what
councilmember
moore
mentioned,
that
on
the
future
agenda
item
regarding
a
study
session
for
chamber
of
commerce
item
and
similar
and
other
things
that
I
mentioned,
that
information
about
similar
country
invoices
without
contract.
So
we
get
more
clarity
on
this
or
even
evergreen
contract.
A
Thank
you
and
I
second,
the
council,
member
moore's
request
for
agenda
item
for
the
public
art
guideline
and
I
think
other
cities
even
have
public
art
master
plans.
So
when
we
consider
that
I
hope
to
also
possibly
have
information,
I
think
sunnyvale
palo,
alto,
san
jose
all
have
public
art
master
plan
and
that's
something
which
is
worth
looking
into.
Thank
you.
F
Okay,
thank
you
vice
mayor,
so
going
back
to
the
the
chamber
item,
there
were
a
couple
of
other
things
that
were
curious.
One
was
that
we
had
a
staff
member
who
was
reserving
community
hall
and
signing
the
waiver
for
the
liability
waiver
it
looked
like
and
and
to
me
that's
on
behalf
of
the
chamber.
So
it's
like
a
staff
member
was
taking
on
that
responsibility.
F
So
I
would
like
to
have
that
portion
discussed
as
well
and
and
the
within
the
agenda
item
that
we
had
tonight
it
the
those
documents
were
already
there.
We
just
really
couldn't
talk
about
it
because
it
was
with
regards
to
the
accounts
payable.
So
I'd
like
to
have
that
the
policy
to
be
explained,
because
that
didn't
look
right
to
me
and
also
looking,
we
would
need
staff
or
want
staff
to
find
the
the
contract
for
the.
I
love
cupertino
website.
What
were
the
expectations
that
the
city
had
they?
F
There
was
a
document
provided,
which
was,
I
believe,
provided
by
the
the
the
chamber,
which
had
some
dollar
amounts
for
monthly
fees
which
looked
like
those
had
been
exceeded,
and
then,
as
I
mentioned
previously,
I
provided
the
invoices
and
the
invoices
are
unclear.
There's
units
multiplied
by
a
dollar
amount,
but
you
don't
know
what
the
what
they
are
and
then
they
end
up
exceeding
what
the
chamber
had
presented.
F
So
there's
there's
the
question
of
what
was
the
the
expectation
with
that,
and
then
I'd
like
to
hear
probably
from
someone
from
I.t
for
why
the
city
would
give
money
to
the
chamber
to
build
a
website
when
we
have
an
I.t
department,
more
than
capable
of
of
having
a
website
built.
So
I'd
like
to
understand
what
the
what
the
policies
are
around
around
all
of
that.
So
if
we
can
add
a
few
more.
F
A
Ability
aspects,
certificate
from
chamber
or
waiver
signed
by
staff,
and
I
love
cupertino
contract.
My
speaker
was
not
up
liability
insurance
certificate
from
chamber
or
waiver
signed
by
staff.
I
love
cupertino
contract
and
subscription
and
itemize
the
expenses
and
why
the
id
department
did
not
help
build
the
website.
F
A
Yeah
actually
so
many
items
today
is
extremely
high
quality,
with
extensive
research
for
historical
society
too,
and
yeah
and
many
other
items.
So
really
really
thank
the
staff
appreciate
all
the
work
and
the
heart
the
mind
that
put
into
the
work.
Thank
you.
So
any
other
comment.
Council
member.
I
really
have
for
that
forgot
to
check
okay.
So,
okay,
now
it's
1201.