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From YouTube: Cupertino Housing Commission Meeting - December 9, 2021
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Coverage of the December 9, 2021 Cupertino Housing Commission Teleconference Meeting.
A
Okay
good
morning,
everyone
I
was
going
to
check
and
see
if
we
have
the
participants
if
we
have
attendees-
and
we
do
have
two
attendees
this
morning
as
of
right
now,
okay,
I
want
to
open
this
meeting.
It's
nine
o'clock
a.m.
I'm
connie
cunningham.
A
What's
that,
would
you
please
call
roll.
B
B
B
A
A
Okay,
I
recommend
that
we
move
the
approval
of
the
minutes
to
after
the
finishing
of
agenda
item
two
any.
Do
I
hear
a
motion
to
approve
that.
A
Okay,
it's
been
moved
in
second,
in
that
we
move
the
approval
of
minutes
to
the
end
of
the
meeting
after
the
agenda
item.
So
there
you
go
carrie.
Are
there
any
postponements?
A
None,
okay
and
oral
communications
now
are
open.
So
we
have
now
we
have
attendees.
There
are
six
attendees,
so
you
have
each
have
three
minutes.
If
you
would
like
to
speak,
please
raise
your
hand,
so
you
can
be
recognized
by
the
chair.
E
A
A
B
A
A
The
only
only
written
communication
I
saw
was
not
for
the
meeting,
but
for
the
commissioners
as
a
whole
from
the
sierra
club,
but
that
wouldn't
be
a
written
communication
for
this
morning.
D
F
One
come
in
about
it
from
a
gentleman
saying
for
regarding
zoning,
and
I
thought
it
was
relevant
to
this.
F
D
B
A
Okay,
thank
you
and
we're
moving
on
then
to
old
business.
Is
there
any
old
business
carrie.
B
A
Okay,
now
it
is
906
am
and
we
are
moving
on
to
new
business,
which
is
agenda.
Item
two.
The
subject
is
the
introduction
to
the
housing
element,
update
process
and
preparation
for
the
mapping
exercise,
which
sometimes
you
heard
it
called
the
balancing
act
tool
just
for
information,
and
the
recommended
action
is
to
receive
the
informational
presentation,
and
I
wanted
to
to
note
to
the
other
commissioners
that
this
will
not
be
a
demonstration
of
the
mapping
exercise.
A
All
of
us
are,
commissioners
are
urged
to
attend
this
evening
at
six
o'clock
to
the
meeting.
That
is
a
community
meeting
to
discuss
the
that
mapping
tool
further.
A
So
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
just
discuss
the
process
below
to
make
sure
that
we
have
enough
time,
because
the
presentation,
as
I
understand
it,
will
be
45
minutes
long
carrie
is
that.
B
The
case
we
have
a
detailed
presentation,
I'll
let
the
I'll
let
the
consultant
team
open
up
and
get
into
that.
A
Okay,
well,
if
it's
45
minutes
to
ensure
that
everybody
has
time
to
speak,
we
will
have
about
30
minutes
to
ask
questions
and
so
forth
and
emc
may
answer
questions
that
are
asked
by
the
commissioners
and
the
public.
So
the
first
round
of
questions
will
be
two
minutes
per
commissioner
and
then
I
think
we
can
allow
three
minutes
per
person
for
the
public,
because
unless
we
get
well,
we
have
now
nine
attendees.
A
I
may
have
to
limit
that
to
two
minutes
per
person,
we'll
see
how
that
goes
when
it
gets
time
for
comment,
then
we'll
have
a
second
round
of
discussions
by
the
commissioners
and
then
20
minutes
more
for
the
remainder
of
the
agenda.
So
now
I'm
going
to
turn
this
back
over
to
it's
908.
Am
I'm
going
to
turn
this
back
over
to
kerry,
to
introduce
the
emc
team?
B
Good
morning
carrie
hiesler
housing
manager.
We
have
a
robust
team
working
on
the
housing
element,
and
here
before
you
today
is
the
the
city
team
and
then
our
emc
consultant
team
that
has
been
with
us
for
a
few
months
representing
emc.
For
this
item
is
andy
flower
and
lauren,
herr
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
you
for
for
the
presentation
and
just
support
you
in
the
background.
H
Thank
you
for
that
introduction,
and
this
morning
we
represent
a
full
team
of
consultants,
as
kerry
mentioned,
and
we're
here
to
guide
cupertino
toward
a
certified
sixth
cycle.
Housing
element
update
process,
it's
so
nice
to
meet
everyone
here.
Thank
you
for
the
cert
for
your
service
on
the
housing
commission.
We
appreciate
the
time
you've
committed
to
volunteer
and
provide
assistance
and
recommendations
through
this
next
year.
It's
going
to
be
a
busy
one,
so
we're
happy
to
be
working
with
you
next
slide.
Please.
H
H
H
H
H
next
slide.
So
as
the
housing
commission,
you
are
part
of
a
team
of
advisory
groups
and
the
first
being
emc
and
staff.
We're
going
to
be
doing
a
lot
of
the
background,
research
and
preparation
and
creating
all
kinds
of
analysis
and
synthesis
of
a
cascading
amount
of
of
new
laws
and
interpretations
of
those
laws.
I
I
believe
I've
seen
a
report
recently.
That
said,
there's
been
70
new
laws
regarding
housing.
Since
the
last
cycle
update
so
there's
we
want
to
make
sure
that
doesn't
feel
like
a
fire
hose
of
information
for
you.
H
So
we
want
to
make
sure
to
bring
that
to
you
in
in
digestible
bite-size
portions,
so
we'll
be
working
together
with
staff
to
make
sure
that
what
we
provide
to
you
is
appropriate
for
each
step
of
the
way
and
we'll
also
be
working
with
a
stakeholder
group,
and
we
can
talk
more
on
that
later.
H
So
there
will
be
an
application
process
open
in
early
january
for
that,
and
so
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
the
information
then
is
is
also
brought
through
the
housing
commission
before
it
gets
brought
to
the
planning
commission
so
that
so
that
we
follow
advice
and
suggestions
and
recommendations
and
bring
that
forward
to
the
planning
commission.
H
So
all
along,
it's
important
to
note
that
our
biggest
advisors-
it
is
the
public
and
we'll
get
to
public
outreach
here
in
a
minute.
But
I
just
want
to
make
that
point
early
and
and
and
next
slide.
Please.
H
There
will
be
two
rounds
of
review
with
hcd,
so
we'll
be
hopefully
getting
a
plan
together
as
early
as
this
summer,
make
it
available
to
the
public,
get
it
to
hcd
here,
hear
about
how
we
might
make
it
better
and
we'll
talk
a
little
more
about
deadlines
later
in
the
in
the
presentation.
Next
slide,
please
so
the
key
components
of
a
housing
element.
H
In
the
end,
we'll
have
a
housing
plan,
goals,
policies,
programs
and
quantified
objectives
and
throughout
the
entire
process,
through
the
process
of
information,
gathering,
synthesis
analysis,
review
and
further
feedback
and
then
finally,
incorporation
into
our
plan.
We
need
to
make
sure
we
have
a
special
focus
on
affirmatively
furthering
fair
housing.
This
is
a
state
law
and
we'll
talk
about
that
next
and
we'll
be
involving
public
engagement
every
step
of
the
way.
H
J
J
In
terms
of
the
data
that
is
specific
to
cupertino
that
relates
to
equity,
this
is
showing
the
split
of
area.
Media
excuse
me
area
median
incomes
between
the
households,
and
so
you
can
see
that
a
large
proportion
of
cupertino's
population
makes
more
than
a
hundred
percent
of
the
area
median
income
and
that
proportion
is
higher
than
comparatively
in
santa
clara
county
or
within
the
bay
area.
J
J
So
a
household
is
considered
cost
burdened
if
it
spends
more
than
30
percent
of
its
monthly
income
on
housing
costs,
and
when
someone
spends
more
than
50
percent
of
their
income
on
housing
costs,
that's
what's
considered
severely
cost
burdened
in
cupertino.
Specifically,
we
have
about
13
percent
of
households
who
spend
more
than
50
percent
of
their
income
on
housing
and,
let's
see
and
75
percent
of
cupertino
households
that
make
less
than
30
percent
of
their
area.
Media
income
spend
the
majority
of
their
income
on
housing.
J
And
the
next
portion
we're
going
to
dig
into
the
regional
housing
needs
allocation,
and
this
regional
housing
needs
allocation
is
also
known
as
the
acronym
rhna,
which
you'll
hear
referred
to
a
lot
as
rena,
and
what
rena
really
is
is
the
target
number
of
homes
that
cupertino
and
other
cities
throughout
california
will
need
to
plan
for
and
for
cupertino?
That
planning
range
is
between
2023
and
2031..
J
So
there
is
proportional
alignment
there,
and
this
relate
this
next
graphic
relates
to
the
affordability
levels
and
why
it
split
the
way
it
is
for
rena,
or
at
least
it
can
give
us
a
idea
of
how
it's
split.
So
you
can
see
that
the
rent
in
cupertino
has
rise,
risen
fairly
significantly
in
comparison
to
santa
clara
county
and
the
bay
area
in
the
past
10
years
or
so,
and
then,
when
we
look
at
housing
tenure
by
housing
type.
J
The
blue
here
shows
the
owner
occupied
units
and
the
green
shows
the
renter
occupied
units,
and
so
you
can
see
that
most
of
the
people
living
in
detached
single
family
homes
are
homeowners,
whereas
in
comparison
14
and
a
half
percent
of
households
in
multi-family
housing
owned
those.
So
it's
just
an
interesting
way
to
see
the
different
types
of
housing
people
live
in
and
whether
they're,
renters
or
homeowners,
and
so
now
andy,
is
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
site's
inventory.
H
H
So
sites
inventory
this
is
this
is
an
exciting
period
of
time
for
our
housing
element
process,
and
it's
maybe
a
time
that
that
we
wish
we
could
take
longer
to
come
to
a
solution.
We'll
talk
a
little
more
about
timing
in
a
little
bit,
but
what
we
need
to
know
is
that
our
first
step
here
is
in
working
with
the
community
is
with
the
site's
inventory,
for
the
site's
inventory.
H
Capacity
analysis:
we
need
to
have
a
description
of
the
methodology
used
to
determine
the
number
of
units
that
can
reasonably
be
developed
on
a
site
for
non-vacant
sites.
We
need
to
analyze
to
make
sure
that
they
are
appropriate
and
that
displacement
would
be
addressed
proactively
and
just
generally,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
determination
of
adequate
sites,
after
consideration
of
our
full
analysis
and
any
alternate
methods
to
accommodate
rena,
that
the
determination
of
whether
sufficient
sites
exist
to
accommodate
rena
or
if
there
is
a
shortfall
requiring
a
program
to
re-zone
additional
sites.
Next
slide.
H
H
So
the
background
for
the
site's
inventory,
we
will
be
working
with
the
public
to
winnow
down
the
sites
that.
H
H
Thank
you
very
much,
we'll
be
working
with
the
public
with
our
mapping
program
and,
at
the
same
time,
doing
a
deep
dive
with
the
sites
that
are
emerging
as
those
that
we
may
be
bringing
forward
through
our
advisory
groups
and,
in
our
analysis,
we'll
be
making
sure
that
these
sites
would
be
zoned
appropriately
either
currently
or
as
proposed
with
a
zoning
change,
and
that
they
would
be
available
for
residential
use
for
the
full
eight
year
planning
period.
H
So
again,
if
there's
not
enough
existing
sites
to
accommodate
the
arena
for
each
income
category,
then
the
city
will
be
considering
identifying
additional
sites
and
or
considering
zoning
changes
to
to
potential
sites
next
slide.
Please.
H
The
strategies
to
identify
additional
sites
could
include
changes
to
the
city's
general
plan
and
or
rezoning,
or
the
other
focus,
of
course,
is
to
be
looking
at
policies
and
programs
and
discovering
what
can
promote.
H
The
correct
ratio
of
affordability
for
each
of
the
arena
requirements,
so
these
strategies
are
necessary
to
accommodate
the
full
amount
of
housing
needs
allocated
with
rena
next
slide.
Please.
H
So
we'll
be
looking
at
what
sites
we've
used
in
the
fourth
and
fifth
cycle
and
determining
whether
these
sites
maybe
were
not
developed
because
of
barriers,
including
a
zoning
zoning
issue
and
we'll
be
looking
at
the
possibility
of
rezoning
within
three
years
to
allow
residential
use
by
right
with
at
least
30
dwelling
units
per
acre
for
housing
developments,
which
at
least
20
percent
of
the
units
are
affordable
to
lower
income
households.
And
this
is
actually
the
hcd
requirement
for
those
sites
that
we
may
be
reusing
in
the
fifth
cycle.
H
This
graph,
this
graphic,
shows
why
we're
looking
at
the
site
options
early.
We
need
to
get
to
a
place
where
we
can
come
where
we
can
determine
whether
or
not
a
sql
analysis
will
require
an
environmental
income
impact
report.
If
so,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
our
team
has
sufficient
time
for
all
of
the
reports,
analysis
and
strategies
involved
with
such
a
a
detailed
document.
H
H
So
the
general
plot,
the
general
process
for
doing
this
site's
inventory
analysis-
is
that
we
begin
with
our
data
analysis
and
then
we
also
are
including
our
public
input
that
we'll
be
receiving
from
our
mapping,
exercise
we'll
then
be
bringing
to
city
council
or
planning,
commission
and
city
council
to
review
the
site's
inventory.
H
We'll
have
a
public
draft
of
the
housing
element
released.
The
draft
housing
element
will
go
to
hcd
we're
looking
to
the
summer
for
that.
A
final
housing
element
will
then
be
produced
through
the
end
of
the
year,
we'll
bring
it
to
the
planning
commission
for
recommendation
city
council
for
review
and
adoption,
and
then
our
final
step
is
to
submit
that
to
hcd
for
certification
next
slide.
Please.
J
The
website,
engagecupertino.org
housing
element
has
a
lot
of
different
ways
that
the
public
can
interact
and
provide
feedback.
We
have
a
slide
that
will
talk
about
that.
More
specifically,
that
includes
the
cupertino
housing
simulator,
which
is
a
mapping
exercise
where
you
can
show
where
you'd
like
to
see
housing.
But
you
also
have
to
put
your
planning
hat
on
a
little
bit
and
figure
out.
J
J
J
We'll
give
our
timeline
and
the
rationale
between
focusing
on
sites
first
and
we'll
also
begin
to
talk
about
the
distribution
for
future
housing
and
show
people
how
to
use
balancing
act,
which
we've
also
been
calling
the
cupertino
housing
simulator,
and
now
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
andy
for
future.
Some
feedback
and
discussion
from
the
commissioners.
H
Yes,
yes,
so
with
next
steps,
as
lauren
mentioned,
we've
got
tonight's
community
workshop,
we're
hoping
that
all
of
you
will
attend
and
and
share
this
information
with
your
neighbors
and
friends,
and
we
also
are
working
with
a
list
of
potentially
eligible
property
owners,
and
we
also
have
a
form
for
property
owners
who
are
interested
in
their
property,
including
housing
in
the
future.
So
we've
got
that
available
on
our
website.
H
I
think
it
was
included
in
this
in
the
screenshot
that
lauren
shared
with
us-
and
we
may
we
may,
in
the
new
year
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
heart
of
the
city.
Specific
plan
update,
if,
if
we
discover
that
that
that
is
appropriate
as
part
of
our
process
here
and
the
stakeholder
ad
hoc
group
selection
will
be
happening
in
early
to
late
january
next
slide.
Please.
H
So
discussion
topics
that
we
we
want
to
open
the
floor
to
and,
of
course,
we're
open
to
others,
but
we
thought
we
would
just
give
a
primer
of
of
concepts
that
we
would
welcome
discussion
about.
Are
there
particular
housing
strategies
that
the
city
should
consider
to
meet
its
affordable
housing
needs
and
renewal
requirements?
H
Are
there
ideas
for
increasing
inclusion
or
outreach
efforts,
and
are
there
housing
issues
or
concerns
that
should
be
addressed
that
maybe
we
wouldn't
know
about
through
ways
other
than
than
hearing
from
you
or
the
public
next
slide?
Please,
I
think,
that's
it.
Yes,
we're
open
to
additional
questions
and
feedback
and
connie.
We
look
to
you
for
guidance
about
who
who
might
speak
first.
A
I
was
muted.
I
wanted
to
thank
you
for
that.
Really,
nice
presentation
it's
going
to
be
very
helpful,
especially
for
those
who
have
this
is
their
first.
A
Whatever
foray
into
getting
this
information-
and
I
know
we
all
have
questions,
certainly
I
do
and
since
you
have
finished
a
little
bit
earlier,
that
does
help
because
we
have
14
members
of
the
public
and
I
would
encourage
the
public
if
they
want
to
speak
you'll,
be
speaking
right
after
the
commissioners
between
two
sets
of
commissioner
questions,
so
please
be
raising
your
hands
so
that
we
can
call
on
you
and
know
how
many
that
are
going
to
be
wanting
to
speak,
but
for
now
I
will
open
it
to
the
commissioners
to
speak.
A
I
can't
see
everyone
because
of
the
because
of
the
shared
thing:
do
you
wanna?
Can
you
take
that
down
or
do
you
need
to
have
that?
Do
you
think.
J
A
A
Okay,
okay,
so
eric
hey
speak
right
up,
commissioners,
I
cannot
see
your
hands
being
subos.
Would
you
like
to
start
I'm
just
gonna
put
it
out
there.
Would
you
like
to
ask
a
question
now
sure.
C
I
wanted
to
thank
both
of
them
for
their
presentation.
C
We
really
appreciate
it
and
we
know
that
it's
going
to
be
a
gargantuan
task
for
the
city
to
meet
its
housing
element
needs
as
put
forth
by,
and
my
question
to,
you
is:
how
involved
are
you
going
to
be
as
consultants
throughout
the
process?
Are
you
going
to
be
there
just
in
the
beginning
of
the
process?
Are
you
guys
going
to
be
able
to
hold
the
city's
hands
and
lead
us
through
the
process?
C
And
the
second
part
to
the
question
is:
how
confident
are
you
that
the
city
can
get
somewhere
close
towards
meeting
its
arena
numbers?
Thank
you.
H
Thank
you,
commissioner.
Bose.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
We
are
dedicated
to
sticking
with
you
through
the
entire
process.
H
We
intend
to
you
mentioned,
hold
hold
your
hand,
absolutely
we
we
walk
this
walk
together,
absolutely
and,
and
we
have
the
benefit
of
an
incredible
staff
who
are
just
a
pleasure
to
work
with
and
and
we're
able
to
do
great
things
together.
I
have
no
doubt
that
that
we
will
be
you
ask
if
we're
confident.
Yes,
I
do
feel
confident
that
we'll
be
able
to
walk
through
these
steps
together
and
get
to
a
place
with
a.
H
With
the
document
that
hcd
can
review
and
and
feel
that
it
meets
their
needs,
that
is
our
goal,
and-
and
even
if
that
doesn't
happen
with
our
first
draft
with
hcd,
we
will
learn
from
any
feedback
that
they
give
us
and
we
will
fold
that
into
our
process
and
our
goal
is
to
make
the
deadline
of
january
of
2023
with
a
fully
adopted
and
certified
housing
element.
Update.
C
So
a
follow-up
to
that
would
be
having
an
update.
Are
you
going
to
be?
Are
we
going
to
be
able
to
identify
the
all
the
sites
by
then,
or
is
that
going
to
happen
over
the
eight
year
time
period.
H
C
Okay,
I
do
have
one
other
question.
One
of
my
concerns
is
that
whenever
we
are
putting
in
high
density
housing
in
certain
areas,
the
chances
are
there
may
not
be
enough
parking
and,
or
the
residents
of
those
units
may
not
have
access
to
transport
their
own
personal
transport.
H
That's
a
great
question-
and
this
is
a
question
that
we're
hearing
from
most
of
the
communities
that
we're
working
in
these
two
ideas
certainly
go
hand
in
hand.
The
idea
of
of
a
higher
density
than
single
family,
along
with
transit
transit
needs,
and
I
think
that's
partly
why
this
this
rena
allocation
comes
not
only
from
the
association
of
bay
area
governments,
but
also
from
the
metropolitan
transportation
commission,
and
so
there
are
incentives
for
having
a
certified
housing
element
and
one
of
those
incentives
are
transportation
grants.
H
So
these
these
two
concepts
need
to
be
considered
throughout
the
process
and
then
and
then
as
you're,
suggesting
into
the
future,
it's
sort
of
a
chicken
and
egg,
because
where
there's
a
real
line,
there
will
be
higher
density
housing,
because
there's
that
predictability
that
that
transportation
will
be
available,
but
the
other
piece
of
it.
The
other
side
of
it
is
a
transit
line,
might
not
be
increased
if
they're,
not
certain
that
ridership
will
happen.
H
So
it's
a
bit
of
a
check
in
an
egg,
but
but
we
will
keep
the
concept
of
where
transportation
is
available
and
therefore,
where
how
where
parking
could
potentially
be
minimized,
so
that
so
that
we're
designing
for
people
and
and
for
rather
than
cars.
C
A
Together,
okay,
and
I
would
like
to
ask
govind
if
he
wants
to
have
a
comment
or
a
question
at
this
time,.
D
D
I
H
B
B
D
Okay,
so
second,
is
that
you
mentioned
about
that
by
you
are
going
to
fast
like
it
by
within
two
months,
and
I
wanted
to
understand
how
many
public
engagement
sessions
we
might
have
in
terms
of
workshops,
and
will
the
stakeholders
have
to
be
included
and
by
what
time
they
will
be
included.
H
That's
a
great
question:
our
demonstration
tonight
will
be
to
share
how
to
use
our
tool
the
mapping
tool-
and
this
is
just
a
great
direct
democracy
tool
that
allows
people
with
all
different
kinds
of
motivations,
for
helping
to
determine
locations
where
housing
can
go.
And
then
the
idea
is
we'll
continue
to
roll
out
additional
maps
based
on
what
our
feed,
what
feedback
we
receive
from
this
first
cycle.
H
So
the
idea
is
that
first
we're
starting
very
broad
as
far
as
looking
at
the
entire
city
as
a
whole
and
then,
as
we
see
the
patterns
and
understand
better
the
strategies
that
are
coming
out
of
this
initial
map,
then
we'll
just
become
more
and
more
detailed,
but
rather
than
having
a
public
workshop
to
unveil
each
and
every
map,
people
will
be
able
to
jump
into
the
process
and
learn
about
the
tool,
even
after
this
workshop,
because
it
will
be
recorded
and
available.
D
I
have
another
question
I
mean
there
was
this
proportionality
in
terms
of
city
and
and
the
county
seven
percent.
I
guess
so
for
that
when
you
use
the
data
in
terms
of
you,
use,
population
density
and
transfer
and
the
housing
stock
currently
available,
and
the
second
question
is:
is
it
based
on
census
data
or
do
you
have
something
more
recent
than
that.
H
Yes,
we're
looking
at
we're
looking
at
census
data,
and-
and
this
was
just
a
I'm
sorry-
I
didn't
hear
the
the
middle
question.
The
question
about
the
comparative
analysis.
D
The
thing
is
basic,
essentially
that
when
you
I
I
believe
you
must
be
looking
at
port
population
as
well
as
the
housing
stock
currently
available.
So
where
do
you
get
the
data
from
and
what's
what's
the
most
recent
data
that
how
do
we?
How
does
the
public
know
about
the
most
recent
data?
That's.
H
Yes
and
we'll
be
sharing
our
data
and
our
data
analysis
with
the
public,
including
all
of
the
source
information.
So
anybody
who
wants
to
understand
what
the
source
data
the
source
of
our
analysis
is
that
will
all
be
publicly
available,
but
it
is
census
data
that
we're
looking
at
for
population.
D
Okay,
second,
the
next
question
is
related
to
what
sue
had
asked.
I
hope
I
have
a
chance
to
ask
this
question,
so
there
are
two
intermediary
bodies
between
fcd
and
the
city,
so
it's
a
bag
in
the
mtc,
of
course,
in
abac,
you
can't
have
all
the
101
cities
represented,
so
we
have
a
proportional
representation
in
terms
of
mtc.
What
I
would
like
to
understand
is
what
was
the
special
projects
that
undertook
in
the
city
as
to
us
and
what
they
plan
to
do
for
the
next
cycle.
H
I
might
have
a
slightly
bad
connection-
I
I
heard
most
of
that,
but
there
was
a
so
then
you'd
like
to
know
what
mtc
is
doing
for
this
cycle
and
for
next
cycle.
As
far
as
transportation
grants,
transportation.
H
Oh
okay,
that's
a
great
question.
We'd
be
happy
to
get
back
to
you
on
that.
That's
not
something
that
we
are
that
we
have
folded
into
our
analysis
yet,
but
we
could
probably
find
some
links
to
help
you
understand
and
learn
about
that.
Okay,
thank
you.
A
Thank
you
govan.
I
will
have
a
little
more
time
after
the
public
input
as
well.
I
don't
know
if
tessa
can
actually
ask
questions
now
so
he's
there
hi
tessa,
I'm.
F
F
Cupertino
does
not
build
the
housing
we
can
only
they
can
only
propose
and
plan
and
that
what
not
in
in
light
of
that,
in
light
of
the
fact
that
some
developers
have
applied
and
then
not
built,
and
is
there
a
constitutionally
correct
way
to
control
that
say
you
know
if
the
cycle
is
every
year
eight
years,
is
it
possible
to
limit
and
give
an
an
approval,
with
a
condition
that
they
build
within
four
years,
say
you
know
not
just
hold
on
and
sit
down
to
the
permits.
F
A
lot
of
of
the
permits
that
were
approved
were
meeting
our
goals
and
then
they
just
sat
on
them
and
in
a
sense
you
know
some
developers
are
sitting
on
property
and
limiting
others
from
building
because
they're
not
selling
and
they're,
not
building
themselves,
and
considering
you
know,
the
the
the
housing
needs
are
so
drastic.
F
I
just
wondered
if
that
was
part
of
something
that
we
could
propose
as
a
final
product
as
we
come
towards
the
end
of
the
this
process,
that
we
could
have
some
kind
of
solution
to
that
problem.
H
Well,
thank
you
for
that
question,
commissioner
parish,
and
this
is
this-
is
the
kind
of
analytical
thinking
that
we
need
absolutely
as
we
flip
into
the
policy
part
of
our
of
our
analysis.
So
thank
you
for
this.
We'll
definitely
keep
this
in
mind
and
we'll
be
looking
at
we'll
be
looking
at
the
housing
permitting
process
and
and
making
sure
like
you're,
suggesting
that
there
would
be
potentially
expiration
dates
if
there
aren't
already.
H
Maybe
that's
something
to
look
at
through
the
policy
analysis
process
and
we'll
also
be
looking
at
potential
barriers
that
that
that
property
owners
might
might
see
in
their
in
their
desire
to
build
more
housing,
some
things
that
maybe
the
city
aren't
aware
of
but
could
could
remedy
through
this
policymaking
process.
Yeah.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
thank
you,
tessa,
and
I
will
go
ahead
and
ask
a
few
questions
now
and
then
we'll
engage
the
public
and
hopefully,
siva
will
be
able
to
join
us
for
the
second
round
of
comments
at
the
end
of
the
meeting.
What
I
would
like
to
ask.
First,
you
were
one
of
the
questions
you
said
when
you
handed
it
off
to
us
and
he
was
about
getting
people
involved
and,
as
I
understand
it,
it's
not
just
necessary.
A
It's
not
limited
to
residents
giving
their
feedback
to
this
tool,
and
so
I
think,
since
one
of
the
things
that
we're
trying
to
do
is
to
improve
the
number
of
affordable
housing
in
our
area
that
we
reach
out
to
say,
the
employees
of
the
businesses
that
current
the
employees
that
currently
work
in
cupertino,
whether
they're
teachers,
whether
they're
hospitality
workers,
governmental
workers,
whoever
they're
working
in
our
city,
reach
out
to
them
and
ask
them
what
affordability
they
need
or
what
location
they
need,
because
they're,
the
people
that
were
looking
to
to
to
have
closer
to
their
work
and
which
will
ameliorate
some
of
the
traffic
conditions
and
and
that
kind
of
thing.
A
So
if
you
could
add
that
to
your
outreach,
I
think
that
would
be
very
important.
A
Okay,
so
so
that's
my
number
one
one
question:
another
question
was
when
you're
talking
about
very
low
income,
that
that
covers
zero
to
fifty
percent
and
there
is
the
extremely
low
income
which
is
zero
to
thirty
percent,
which
is
included
within
that,
and
I
had
read
in
in
the
law
that
how
hcd
is
interpreting
it
is
that
the
cities
do
need
to
plan
for
eli
specifically-
and
I
do
understand
that
there
is
a
significant
issue
on
how
eli
is
built
and
funded
and
all
that.
H
That
is
definitely
part
of
our
process
going
forward
in
doing
our
needs
analysis
absolutely
and
we
will
be
following
hcd
guidance
and,
as
you
mentioned,
yes,
the
extremely
low
income
is
a
subcategory
of
the
very
low
income.
So
the
numbers
that
we
see
in
that
chart
they
are
inclusive
of
that
and
it
will.
It
will
definitely
be
part
of
our
process
and
then
incorporate
it
into
the
final.
Well,
the
first,
the
draft
and
then
the
final
housing
element.
A
Okay,
let's
see
9
54,
we
still
have
time.
You
were
saying
that
there
is
a
way
for
people
to
submit
ideas
for
properties
to
be
reviewed.
I
noticed
in
the
way
it
was
set
up
right
now
that
property
owners
can
put
their
property
in,
but
not
somebody
who
notices
something's
for
sale
and
says:
oh
that
looks
nice.
Maybe
you
guys
could
consider
that.
So
is
there
a
way
for
people
to
submit
those
kinds
of
ideas.
H
I
I
love
that
idea.
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
We
could
we
can
brainstorm
about
how
we
might
incorporate
that
into
our
into
our
website.
We
do
have
some
other
mapping
opportunities
ways
that
we
could
enable
people
to
sort
of
drop
a
pin
in
a
map,
if
that
would
be
a
comfortable
way
for
people
to
to
share
that
kind
of
information.
C
H
A
A
You
know,
link
right
there
under
housing
element,
there's
two
paragraphs
and
at
the
end
of
the
second
paragraph
it
talks
about
wanting
to
be
careful
of
the
character
of
our
neighborhoods
now
affirmatively
furthering
excuse
me,
affirmative
action
specifically
talks
to
reaching
out
to
other
people
and
basically
changing
perhaps
the
kinds
of
housing
that
we
have
available
and
I'm
wondering
if
that
particular
terminology
is
a
little
off-putting
because
it
has
some
roots.
A
You
know
in
in
the
way
general
plans
have
been
written
in
the
past
and
I
don't
think
that
that's
what
we
would
want
to
have
in
the
perception
of
people
reading
our
our
link.
So
I
would
ask
you
to
please
say
something
else.
I
guess
and
the
I
think
I
did
in
fact
send
in
some
some
some
words
that
I
thought
would
work
better,
but
I
can't
get
them
to
mind
right
this
minute,
I'm
better
when
I'm
writing
those
things,
and
I
did
submit
that.
A
So
I
would
like
to
suggest
that,
let's
see
if.
H
I
I
see
that
your
suggested
wording
is:
we
will
plan
for
this
growth
in
a
way
that
will
welcome
new
neighbors
and
share
the
many
benefits
of
living
in
this
beautiful
city
of
cupertino.
A
Yeah
I
mean
I
I
like
it,
but
so
if
that
works
for
for
you
or
for
any
then
last.
B
A
A
I'm
glad
that
you
got
that
and
I
guess
one
thing:
let's
see
it's
getting
to
be
9
57,
perhaps
I'll
just
say
this
other
comment
for
after
our
public
participation,
I'm
going
to
look
over
here
and
see
we
have
five
hands
raised
for
the
attendees
and
I
would
encourage
the
ntn
attendees
if
they
would
raise
their
hand
so
that
we
can
call
on
them,
and
I
will
just
mention
to
carrie
that,
for
whatever
reason
my
zoom
does
not
show
the
raised
hands
just
how
many
raised
hands
there
are.
A
B
I
I
appreciate
all
the
information
that
our
housing
element
contract
group
is
providing
us,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
previous
meetings
with
the
city.
With
this,
this
is
going.
This
housing
element
is
going
to
be
one
for
the
ages.
I've
been
through
two
housing
elements
with
the
city,
and
this
one
is
loaded
with
everything
I
will
tell
you.
I
I
think
the
contracting
group
has
done
a
fantastic
job,
but
I
have
I
sent
off
four
messages
to
the
planning
commission.
I
seceded
them
to
the
housing
I'm
planning
to
housing.
I
I
cc
them
to
the
city
council,
because
I
have
some
very,
very
grave
questions
about
terms
that
are
being
used:
advisory
groups,
people
who
may
not
live
in
the
city
or
may
have
too
many
outside
interests
from
from
funding
groups
that
they're
being
paid
to.
I'm
sorry,
I'm
going
to
throw
it
all
out
here,
because
this
is
this-
is
we're
into
world
war
ii.
We
have
potential
influences
from
people
that
are
being
paid
as
lobbyists
from
landowners
funding
groups
who
are
pushing
for
up
zoning
because
their
properties
will
be
increased.
I
I
will
tell
you
right
now
that
I
want
to
know
why
or
who
is
on
this
housing
element.
Advise
I'm
sorry
stakeholder
group.
I
demand
to
know
we
don't
need
a
stakeholder
group.
We
went
through
this
with
the
matrix
project
10
years
ago
and
we
fought
this
through
with
the
house,
the
the
stuff
going
on
in
the
city
of
san
jose
for
those
whatever
they're
called,
where
they
up
zone
everything.
I
I
really
do
not
want
this
to
start
in
the
city,
because
everyone's
voice
is
as
good
as
everyone
else.
I
I
don't
I
never
heard
of
ab-868.
I
want
to
know
what
it
is
if
the
governor
signed
it,
he
sure
didn't
tell
me
about
it
and
I'm
not.
I
am
not
going
to
go
quietly
into
this.
I
If
I
do
not
know
what
this
legislation
is-
and
I
sure
want
to
know
what
what
legislator
wrote
ab-868,
because,
if
they're
from
southern
california-
and
I
never
heard
of
it-
then
that
stuff
needs
to
be
pulled
immediately,
I'm
very
very
concerned
about
where
hcd
and
mtc
and
a
bag
are
going
with
this,
because
you
know
my
my
my
goals
in
this
are
to
try
to
remain
as
neutral
and
as
calm
as
possible,
but
I
I
I
can
see
the
battle
lines
for
tonight
coming
up
and
I
I'm
you
know
I
am
really
tired
of
having
my
voice
in
this
state
be
suppressed.
I
I
A
H
That's
686.,
you
got
it
right,
the
first
time.
Yes,
so
the
stakeholder
group
will
be
recruiting
for
that
in
the
new
year
and
and
we'll
be
making
sure
that
that
announcement
gets
out
far
and
wide
we're
looking
to
include
10
people
who
could
be
representative
of
of
different
aspects
of
the
community,
as,
as
you
mentioned
before,
chair
the
idea
of
making
sure
that
teachers
and
employees
who
who
people
who
maybe
even
work
at
the
city
who
may
not
live
at
the
city.
H
But
they
would
like
to
and
we're
looking
for
a
cross
section,
a
diverse
representation
of
people
so
that
we
can
elevate
those
voices
up
for
those
who
are
are
the
ones
to
be
served
eventually
by
the
housing
element,
goals
and
policies.
A
H
H
Their
needs
may
be
not
considered
through
the
policy
making
process
and
through
establishing
the
locations
for
where
future
housing
could
be
made
room
for
it's
now
time
to
include
them
in
as
many
ways
possible.
H
So
we're
doing
that
through
the
website
and
we'd
like
to
also
bring
in
an
advisory
group
representative
of
of
a
diversity
of
perspectives.
Okay,.
H
They
will
not
have
ultimate
decision-making
authority,
certainly
and
but
their
opinions
and
ideas
would
bubble
up
through
the
advisory
and
then
decision-making
boards
and
commissions.
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
for
helping
answer
those
questions
for
our
public.
Okay.
Carrie.
Do
you
want
to
go
to
the
next
person?
Please?
Yes,.
B
So
next
we
have
jan
stokely
and
I'm
gonna
start.
Allow
you
to
talk
and
start
the
timer
good
morning,
jan.
B
L
Thanks,
I
must
have
lowered
my
hand
before
you
called
on
me.
Sorry,
I'm
jan
stokley,
director
of
housing
choices.
We
have
been
advocating
for
more
than
five
years
for
in
cupertino
for
affordable
housing.
That
includes
some
extremely
low
income
units
for
people
with
developmental
disabilities.
There
are
several
hundred
people
with
developmental
disabilities.
L
In
cupertino,
more
than
70
percent
are
living
at
home
with
aging
parents
and
as
their
parents
become
unable
to
house
them
because
of
their
own
aging,
we're
seeing
them
being
displaced
from
cupertino,
so
the
numbers
are
just
declining,
not
because
they're
getting
housed
but
because
they're
getting
displaced
so
developmental
disabilities
is
a
category.
That's
required
to
be
addressed
in
the
housing
element,
and
we
have
some
data
that
we'd
love
to
hear
with
the
consultants,
and
we
also
have
policy
and
program
recommendations
that
are
pretty
specific
to
this
particular
community.
L
L
We
feel
that
one
of
the
strongest
ways
you
could
affirmatively
further
fair
housing
addressing
both
the
categories
of
race
and
disability,
is
by
having
very
specific
policies
and
programs
to
create
extremely
low
income
housing,
so
we're
just
eager
and
interested
to
provide
data
and
make
policy
recommendations
and
want
to
thank
you
for
lifting
up
the
discussion
about
eli.
I
think
it's
really
important
in
all
of
santa
clara
county,
but
particularly
in
cupertino.
K
Good
morning,
thank
you
so
much
sujatha
venkatraman
from
west
valley,
community
services.
I
wanted
to
take
the
time
to
thank
andy
and
his
group
for
the
work
that
they
are
doing.
West
valley
is
involved
with
their
team,
and
so
we
are
very
excited
that
we
are
bringing
the
voices
of
our
community
in
this
process.
K
I
also
want
to
take
the
opportunity
here
to
actually
introduce
kylie
clark,
our
public
policy
coordinator,
she's
new,
and
I
wanted
the
housing
commissioners
to
know
about
her.
She
will
be
in
later
to
speak
on
the
item,
but
kylie
is
working
on
a
number
of
policy
issue
and
we
have
a
blog
post
and
an
update
on
our
website,
which
we
are
using
as
a
way
to
educate
the
community.
So
I
will
let
kylie
speak
more
on
that,
but
thank
you
all.
K
We
are
super
excited
of
the
work
and
the
partnership
that
we
have
in
cupertino.
As
you
all
know,
west
valley,
community
services
is
advocating
for
affordable,
inclusive
and
fair
housing
in
our
city.
So
thank
you
very
much.
M
Hi
there
good
morning,
everybody
I
first
want
to
just
say
excellent
presentation.
This
is
a
challenging
and
somewhat
scary
process
that
you're
going
through,
given
the
limited
capacity
of
land
in
cupertino
and
just
to
appreciate
the
opportunity
to
speak.
I
had
a
couple
of
quick
questions
and
they
may
be.
They
may
be
drilling
down
too
far,
where
it's,
it's
not
appropriate
to
answer
them
at
this
time.
M
But
a
couple
of
quick
questions
I'd
be
curious
to
understand
if
any
of
the
folks
on
the
call
have
a
sense
of
how
the
valco
development
will
impact
the
4
500
units
that
are
needed
in
this
current
arena
cycle.
Obviously
it's
a
huge
development.
M
I
know
it's
not
all
residential,
but
it
would
be
interesting
to
understand
what
kind
of
a
dent
in
that
4
500
unit
number
balco
would
be
anticipated
to
make
I'd
also
be
curious
to
understand
how
many
of
the
units
towards
the
4500
will
be
considered,
re-used
units
from
say
the
arena
5-cycle
that
have
not
been
built,
because
those
are
obviously
units
that
would
create
less
stress
in
finding
new
sites
because
they
can
be
reused.
So
I'd
be
interested.
M
If
there's
a
number
associated
with
that
and
then
and
then
lastly,
I'd
be
curious
about
the
city's
thought
on
when
the
ultimate
site
list
gets
submitted
to
the
state,
the
state
will
review
that
site
list
and
I
think
it's
a
new
requirement
in
this
arena.
Six
cycle,
where
the
state
will
look
more
onerously
at
the
ability
of
sites
to
be
developed,
and
so
my
question
is
regarding,
I
think
the
two
biggest
challenges
for
develop
redevelopment
of
a
site
are
for
a
site
that
currently
is
occupied,
so
potential
lease
encumbrances.
M
Letters
of
support
from
those
landowners
saying
that
they
are
willing
to
have
their
property
be
a
part
of
this,
because,
ultimately,
their
properties
will
be,
in
essence,
rezoned
to
housing,
and
so
I'm
just
curious
the
city's
approach
as
they
identify
sites
you
know,
will
they
be
going
to
owners
that
have
existing
leases
and
confirming
that
there
are
no
leases
that
run
now.
M
That
would
prohibit
development,
because
a
real
unfortunate
situation
would
be
to
submit
and
go
through
this
whole
process
and
have
the
community
understand
these
are
the
sites
and
then,
before
the
state,
to
come
back
and
say
no
there's
600
sites
we're
going
to
reject,
and
so
you've
got
to
start
over
because
there's
a
seque
squa
bus
that
will
leave
the
train
station
as
well
relative
to
that
list.
So
thank
you
very
much.
You
guys
are
doing
a
great
job
and
appreciate
it.
E
Good
morning,
I
am
not
in
a
position
where
I
could
write
down
what
I
was
thinking
along
the
way,
so
I'm
going
to
miss
some
things
and
that
may
sound
really
scattered.
But
I
think
it's
really
important
when
we're
we're
going
to
get
down
to
having
to
rise
up.
If
we
really
need
to
meet
these
numbers.
That,
I
don't
think,
that's
a
question
and
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
that
we
can't
rezone.
E
E
We
need
more
of
it
with
the
current
population
and
we
need
to
account
for
that
when
the
rezoning
decisions
are
made,
so
I
just
that
always
gets
lost,
it
gets
talked
about
and
agreed
to,
but
then
it
just
kind
of
goes
away
or
it
gets
developers
get
quote
unquote
away
with
not
doing
it,
and
I
know
it's
not
an
easy
thing
to
do,
because
you
don't
know
what
retail
you're
going
to
get
there.
We
absolutely
don't
need
any
more
restaurants.
E
E
People
can't
get
real
answers
on
what
they
are
and
when
they
dig
down
and
fight
to
get
those
answers.
It's
very
unsatisfying
because
this
isn't
just
about,
and-
and
I
appreciate
your
comment
about-
trying
to
reach
people
and
connie's
requests
that
you
know
are
going
to
be
in
these
potential
units,
but
you
can't
forget
about
the
community,
that's
existing
and
what
their
thoughts
are.
So
I'm
raising
my
hand
right
now
to
be
on
whatever
list
this
is
so.
E
I
need
to
know
how
to
apply
to
do
that,
and
I
really
would
like
to
know
that
and
understand
the
recruiting
definition
and
you
don't
need
to
do
it
now.
I
think
it's
probably
better
than
it
sounded,
but
I
hope
so
and
as
as
far
as
transit
and
parking,
you
know
that.
B
N
Good
morning,
thank
you.
Thank
you
so
much
to
staff
for
your
presentation
and
thank
you
to
commissioners
for
your
service.
I
appreciate
the
discussion
this
morning.
My
name
is
leanna
crabtree,
I'm
a
cupertino
resident
the
beginning
of
this
discussion
opened
with
the
premise
this
understanding
that
we're
all
supposed
to
nod
our
heads
in
agreement
to,
and
that
is
that
the
city
does
not
build
housing
and
what
we've
seen
is
really
decades
of
the
federal
government.
N
The
state
government
just
taking
a
real
hands-off
approach,
stepping
back
from
the
responsibility
to
house
people
adequately
and
stably,
or
long
terms
who
are
at
a
position
where
they
cannot
afford
market
rate.
We
have
instead,
this
idea
that
private
development
will
step
in
and
build
the
housing
that
we
need.
But
in
fact
private
development
builds
the
housing
that
it
wants
to
build,
that
it
determines
to
be
most
profitable.
So
we
get
housing
that
doesn't
necessarily
match
what
our
community
needs.
We
get
housing.
N
We
get
studio
apartments
you've
used
euphemistically
described
as
junior
one
bedrooms
of
350
square
feet.
You
know
for
upwards
of
three
and
four
thousand
dollars
in
santa
clara
county
and
anybody
who
needs
housing
that
requires,
or
anybody
who
has
has
requirements
of
they
need
care.
They're,
young
children,
they're
seniors
with
limited
capacity
or
anyone
with
any
kind
of
disability,
we're
not
seeing
that
kind
of
housing
be
built
and
we're
seeing
that
housing
is
completely
decoupled
from
what
people
can
actually
afford
to
pay.
N
Instead,
it's
it's
priced
against
what
investors
can
pay,
and
so
I
I
challenge
you,
commissioners,
who
serve
at
the
pleasure
of
your
council
to
please
push
back
and
look
for
ways
for
a
city
to
build
its
own
housing
when
you
look
at
what's
happening
worldwide
in
terms
of
turning
this
sort
of
terrible
investor
market
for
this
precious
resource
of
housing,
it's
it's
happening
at
the
city
level.
It's
the
pushback
is
happening
at
the
city
level.
The
state
isn't
going
to
come
in.
N
The
federal
government
isn't
going
to
come
in
we're
going
to
get
a
lot
of
presentations
about
reasons
why
we
can't
have
housing.
Meanwhile,
santa
clara
county,
as
you
are
so
well
aware,
has
ten
thousand
people
inadequately
housed
or
unhoused
and
far
more
probably
living
with
the
fear
of
that.
Just
a
couple
of
comments.
I
appreciate
that
you're
going
to
be
sharing
your
slides.
There
were
two
of
those
slides
that
were
graphs
that
don't
mention
the
locale.
N
I
appreciate
this
is
a
presentation
from
cupertino,
but
nowhere
on
the
slide
just
actually
say
that
you're
measuring
something
in
cup,
routine,
there's
no
local
mention
at
all
and
there's
specifically
the
ones
I
I
spotted,
but
there
may
be
others
where
one's
titled
cost
burdened
and
then
also
housing
tenure
by
housing
type.
If
you
could,
please
add
that
you're
talking
about
cupertino,
so
a
lot
of
data
on
those
graphs
and
maybe
a
little
bit
of
explanatory
text
would
be
very
helpful
as
well.
Also,
I
want
to
second
chair
cunningham's
edit
right
to
ab686
that
language.
N
B
O
Okay,
I
just
have
a
few
comments.
First
of
all,
I
really
appreciate
the
presentation
this
morning
and
how
well
you've
conveyed
what
the
process
is,
and
you
sort
of
opened
opened
this
up
to
the
community.
O
I'd
like
to
reinforce
what
jan
stokely
said
about
the
the
needs
of
the
special
needs
population
here
in
the
community.
I'd
like
to
also
comment
about
the
eli
as
being
part
of
the
vli
category.
O
I
think
you
cupertino
ought
to
take
it
out
of
the
vli
category
and
address
it
as
a
category
in
its
own
right
because
it
gets
lost
in
the
vli
category,
especially
since
it's
so
difficult
for
developers
to
produce,
and
so
I
think
it
it.
It
needs
to
be
addressed.
O
Specifically,
I'd
also
like
to
say,
with
regard
to
transportation,
I
hope
that
this
process
will
involve
in
some
way
some
dialogue
with
vta,
because
over
the
years
the
vta
has
has
diminished
its
coverage
and
diminished
the
frequency
with
which
it
covers
its
roots,
and
I
would
hate
to
see
us
restricting
where,
where
we're
looking
for
housing,
because
there's
no
vta
transit
in
those
areas,
we
should
also
be
looking
at
the
possibility
of
putting
in
some
small
transit
hubs
in
other
areas
of
the
city
again,
so
that
we
can
spread
out
this
housing
throughout
the
community.
O
But
definitely
there
needs
to
be
some
dialogue
with
vta
and
hopefully
some
commitments
from
them.
And
my
last
point
is
is
just
a
technical
one.
I
would
really.
O
I
really
appreciated
the
fact
that
you
used
very
few
acronyms
in
your
presentation,
and
I
would
encourage
you
to
not
use
acronyms
in
your
future
presentations,
because
that's
the
best
way,
I
think
to
lose
community
input
is
to
talk
with
too
many
acronyms
that
those
of
us
in
the
public,
not
specializing
in
housing,
don't
understand
and
the
same
thing
when
you
talk
about
a
bill,
if
you
could-
or
you
know,
lula
new
law,
if
you
could
briefly
describe
what
that
is,
when
you
mention
it,
it
would
be
wonderful
thanks
again.
B
Thank
you,
okay,
and
for
the
benefit
of
the
public.
We
have
our
last
speaker,
so
we
will
close
public
comment
if
there
are
no
more
hands
received
by
the
time.
The
three
minutes
is
up
for
the
last
speaker.
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
to
our
last
public
comment.
Kylie
clark
good
morning.
G
Hi
everyone,
I'm
kylie
clark.
I
was
introduced
earlier
by
sujatha-
I'm
lucky
enough
to
have
met
many
of
you
but,
like
she
said,
I'm
the
public
policy
coordinator
at
west
valley,
community
services
and
I'm
still
relatively
new.
I've
been
here
for
about
three
months,
but
I
definitely
dove
right
in
especially
with
everything
happening
with
the
housing
element.
G
So
I
want
to
share
a
little
bit
about
how
wvcs
is
involved
in
this
process
and
has
been
so
far.
First
is
just
me:
attending
meetings
like
this
and
really
any
other
relevant
meetings
happening
around
the
housing
element
like
council
study
sessions
and
planning,
commission
meetings
and
things
like
that,
and
we
have
also
been
meeting
regularly
with
emc
so
with
andy
and
lauren,
and
a
couple
of
other
members
of
their
team
and
we've
been
working
to
connect
them
with
our
clients.
G
So
that's
something
that
we're
really
excited
about,
and
we're
really
grateful
for
that
partnership,
because
this
space
is
often
pretty
unaccessible
for
the
people
who
are
actually
going
to
hopefully
be
the
most
impacted
by
it.
If
we're
able
to
do
this
right
and
really
get
some
affordable
housing,
and
then
I
also
chair
committee
called
the
client
advisory
committee
at
west
valley,
community
services
and
we're
working
to
get
more
clients
on
board.
G
But
what
we
will
have
is
a
group
of
dedicated
clients
who
are
interested
in
advocacy
and
who
also
advise
us
based
on
their
lived
experience
and
I'll
just
say
a
little
bit
about
what
we'd
like
to
see
for
the
housing
element,
but
really
we're
really
happy
with
the
direction
that
you
all
are
going
in,
and
I
really
appreciate
all
of
the
work
that
you're
doing
on
this.
G
I
would
love
to
see
some
more
focus
on
affordability,
just
trying
to
get
above
that
20
because
really
in
the
community,
that's
where
the
biggest
need
is
like
that
graph
showed
how
disproportionate
the
housing
is
as
stands,
and
we
also
really
appreciate
the
focus
that
there's
been
and
I
think
we'll
continue
to
be
on
equity
and
social
justice.
It's
really
great
to
see
that
incorporated
into
this
process
and
so
really
just
continue
doing
what
you're
doing,
and
we
appreciate
everything
and
we're
also
here
as
a
resource.
A
Thank
you
to
all
of
the
public
who
came
out
of
this
early
morning
to
speak
to
us
and
to
share
your
insights.
It's
really
valuable,
it's
great
for
the
emc
team
to
hear
all
of
you
as
well,
so
I
just
was
going
to
encourage
you
to
come
to
tonight's
meeting
at
six
o'clock
about
the
mapping
tool,
because
that
is
a
method
for
people
to
become
involved.
A
Okay,
so
thank
you
again
for
coming
and
and
and
speaking
appreciate
it
very
much
now,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
back
to
the
commissioners.
If
they
have
some
last
comments
that
they
would
make
and
since
it's
10
30,
I
was
hoping
that
okay,
we
have
enough
time
to
do
two
minutes
with
questions
and
comments.
If
you
would
like
to
go
around
again,
can
I
see
a
raised
hand
from
any
of
our
commissioners?
A
I
see
two
so
on
my
screen
governs
at
the
top
govind.
Would
you
like
to
go
first,
please.
D
D
And
you
know
it
cannot
be
a
very
general
information,
because
that
that
makes
no
sense,
I
mean
you
have
to
do
it
by
city
by
city.
So
that's
one
thing
which
I
would
like
to
see
if
there's
a
way
to
gather
that
information,
and
the
other
is
that
there
was
also
observation
about
dialogue
with
the
vta
is,
that
is
a
good.
D
We
would
is
that
something
where
you
people,
because
most
of
my
understanding
is
that
you
know
the
focus
of
in
terms
of
public
engagement
is
going
to
be
mostly
about
housing,
character
and
housing.
You
know
stock
and
stuff,
like
that.
D
Would
you
be
also
addressing
transit
issues,
because
you
know
the
there's
a
there's
a
lot
of
within
the
community,
the
the
ability
for
us
to
get
off
the
car-
and
you
know,
use
public
transit
depends
on
availability
and
we
haven't
seen
much
of
progress
every
time
they
talk
about
something
it's
all
about.
Highway,
85
and
highway.
85
is
definitely
not
solving
all
the
issues
that
cupertino
needs
to
address,
so
we
would
like
to
see
if
there's
a
way
to
kind
of
stroke
that
discussion
during
your
public
engagement
process.
That's
pretty
much
my
interest.
A
Thank
you,
kelvin
tessa,.
F
Yes,
thank
you
chair
for
the
opportunity.
I
wanted
to
speak
to
something
that
one
of
the
speakers
commented
or
the
public
commented
about,
and
that
was
the
jenny
griffin's
comment
about
the
who
requested
the
panel,
the
council,
that
that
is
being
recruited
for
I'd
like
to
know
as
well.
F
Only
because,
while
it
sounds
like
a
great
idea
because
you
have
representation
from
different
people
and
it
sounds
very
democratic,
it
also
has
the
strong
possibility
that
someone
chooses
someone
to
be
there
and
there
is
excess
effort,
and
I
understand
that
they
don't
have
the
last
word
and
they're
they're.
It
isn't,
but
it
does
carry
a
lot
more
weight
when
you
say
the
panel
suggested,
and
now
they
have
more,
ideally
representing
more
people
and
or
their
whoever.
It
is
that
they're
representing.
F
I
think
that
the
the
this
outreach
plan
to
reach
everyone
would
probably
be
more
equitable
in
everything
I've
seen
that
you
you're
you're,
going
for
using
technology
and
surveys
and
whatnot.
I
think
we
should
work
on
getting
that
out,
more
and
and
with
that
acquiring
the
voices
that
are
you're
looking
for
diversity
and
representation.
F
F
How
are
they
recruited
and
you
know
who
gets
the
you
know
picked
and
but
more
so,
I
would
like
to
know
who's
requiring
that
panel
to
see
if
it's
from
something
we
can
eliminate.
I
would
really
like
to
see
that
it
does
seem
a
little
funky
to
me
and
then
the
other
was
leanna
crabtree's
comment
about
the
city
having
its
own
housing,
and
someone
reminded
me
that
that
back
in
the
day
there
was
public
housing
and
people
could
depend
on
that.
F
Other
countries
have
it
denmark,
I
I
have
a
close
friend
because
people,
you
know
our
government
provides
some
type
of
housing.
No
one
has
to
go.
They
have
very
little
unhoused
people
there,
and
so
I
wanted
to
second
that
idea
that
maybe
cupertino
with
all
the
land
it
owns
or
it
could
own
put
together
a
housing
element
of
its
own,
that
it
could
have
and
maintain
and
not
personally
maintained,
because
I
know
that
has
to
be
outsourced.
A
Can
you
address
the
question
that
tessa
asked
in
regards
to
the
stakeholder
group?
Is
that
required
by
the
housing
element
process
itself,
or
is
that
you
know
I
because
I
thought
that's
what
it
was,
but
I
think
it's
good
for
people
to
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
that
stakeholder
process.
H
Enable
those
who
are
or
have
been
disenfranchised
in
the
past-
and
these
are
groups
that
maybe
wouldn't
have
the
kind
of
direct
democracy
numbers
otherwise
afforded
to.
H
H
Than
those
who
typically
participate
in
the
process,
because
if
if
this
is
an
a
new
process
for
for
an
individual
who
is,
is
well
in
one
instance-
maybe
a
low
income
individual
if
they're,
if
they're
working
several
jobs
and
have
not
or
even
just
one
single
job
that
they
may
not
have
the
time,
energy
motivation
or
experience
that
could
lead
them
to
this
opportunity.
H
So
it's
it's
an
it's
a
it's
one
path
for
helping
to
level
the
playing
field,
helping
that
direct
democracy
to
be
more
equitable.
So,
while
it's
not
required
by
hcd,
it's
likely
that
hcd
would
look
favorably
upon
this
path.
A
Could
I
just
ask
a
follow-on
question
about
that,
because
when
I
read
the
earlier
description
of
the
stakeholder
group,
I
thought
it
also
included
business
representatives,
perhaps,
and
so
just
so,
it's
a
fuller.
I
well
anyway,
it
sounded
like
it's
got
a
number
of
different,
absolutely
including
the
folks
that
you're
talking
about,
but
also
including
business,
but
unless
that's
changed
or
something,
and
I
also
understand
that
there's
a
process
where
you're
putting
it
out
electronically,
but
it's
the
city
council
who
is
going
to
be
approving
it.
H
We
haven't,
we
haven't
finalized
all
the
details
about
who
who
would
be
approving
it.
We
are
hoping
to
make
it
both
electronically
available
as
an
application
and
also
paper
available
and
as
far
as
business
owners.
Not
all
business
owners
are
super
wealthy
or
have
plenty
of
time
to
spend
on
policy
making
decisions,
but
they
are
heavily
impacted
when
it
comes
to
employing
people
and
whether
or
not
people
who
they
want
to
have
employed
have
a
safe
and
reasonable
distance
to
their
home.
A
Thank
you.
I
I
clearly
needed
to
have
that
get
clarified
for
me.
Thank
you.
So
I
think,
let's
see,
I
don't
see.
Oh
sue,
do
you
have
your
hand
up?
Please
go
ahead.
C
Yeah,
so
I
wanted
to
put
a
word
in
to
support
lyanna,
crabtree
and
tessa's
suggestion
of
maybe
the
city
needs
to
look
into
putting
in
their
own
housing,
especially
for
low
and
extremely
low
income
units,
because
there
is
very
little
incentive
for
builders
to
do
so,
and
the
numbers
may
not
work
for
the
builders,
so
just
in
the
interest
of
public
for
the
public
that
needs
to
be
served.
I
think
maybe
the
city
needs
to
look
into
that.
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
plug
to
that
part.
Thank
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
and
I
will
take
a
couple
of
minutes
to
wrap
up
a
couple
of
questions
that
I
had.
A
One
was
what
I
noticed
that
you
put
the
housing
commission
in
your
chart
and,
as
I
understand
it,
we
are
what
the
housing
element
process
considers
a
housing
advisory
committee.
And
so,
as
I
looked
at
your
spreadsheet
and
so
forth,
it
looked
like
that.
We're
going
to
be
involved
occasionally
in
the
review
of
the
documents,
but
at
the
end
and
towards
the
end,
it
looks
like
we're
not
involved
with
the
planning
commission
and
the
council
are
so.
A
Maybe
we
could
clarify
that
at
some
point
as
to
what
the
housing
advisory
committee
duties
are
and
when
we're
going
to
be
involved
in
the
review
of
any
products
that
come
out
of
this.
A
So
you
do
not
do
it
now,
but
I
just
it's
just
something
that
I
would
like
to
have
clarified
so
that
our
commission
knows
we're
going
into
a
new
year.
There's
a
new
city
work
program
all
that
what
what
what
are
we
doing
with
this
so
that
we
know
how
to
budget
our
time,
and
I
think
I
think
that
was
my
last
question
so
given
do
we
have
connie.
F
Yeah,
so
in
in
in
in
light
of
the
fact
that
you
know
it
if
it
is
encouraged
or
agreed
upon
that
the
stakeholder
is
a
plan
and
is
a
go,
I
would
like
to
see
a
lot
more
transparency
in
the
process,
but
also
make
sure
I
would
in
an
approval
from
the
housing,
commission
and
council
of
who's
on
there,
because
with
full
transparency
on
who
they
are
and
their
connections,
I
would
like
to
really
really
make
sure
that
those
business
owners
don't
result
in.
F
You
know
manipulation
of
you
know
the
big
developers
and
drowning
out
the
common
folk.
That
is
the
purpose
that
you
mentioned:
andy
of
the
people
that
wouldn't
have
otherwise,
but
really
encouraged
them
to
come
out
and
speak
empower
them.
I
would
really
like
to
see
them
speak.
That
would
be
what
I'd
like.
Thank
you,
okay,.
A
Thank
you,
and
I
thank
all
the
commissioners
for
your
thoughtful
comments
about
this
process
as
well.
D
D
I
definitely
second
the
idea
that
stakeholders
information
needs
to
be
made
more
transparent
and
public,
and
the
second
thing
is
that,
if,
as
part
of
the
you
know
the
the
public
engagement,
you
can
also
ask
the
requirement
in
terms
of
transit
hubs
and
what
kind
of
transit
local
transit
they
would
like
to
see,
because,
even
if
the
retail
retail
is
going
to
be
at
certain
place
located
in
a
certain
place,
they
have
to
go
to
the
retail.
Everybody
cannot
bike.
D
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
all
your
comments.
I
don't
want
to
miss
anyone.
Okay,
I
will
be
closing
the
commissioner
comments
at
this
time
and
I
want
to
then
at
this
time
call
for
a
motion
to
receive
this
present.
This
very
fine
presentation
that
we
had
this
morning,
so
I
hear
a
motion.
A
A
Thank
you.
Do
I
hear
a
second
I'll?
Second,
it
it's
been
moved
and
seconded
that
we
received
the
presentation
this
morning
staff.
Can
you
please
take
the
vote
or.
A
D
A
Okay,
yeah
so
see,
commissioner
of
gandacote,
is
not
here.
At
least
it
doesn't
show
on
mine,
correct,
absolutely
okay.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
in
my
mind
that
was
okay.
I
want
to
thank
you
all.
I
want
to
thank
the
public
again
for
coming
out
this
morning
and
we
will
be
moving
on
to
the
regular
meeting
activities
that
we
do
every
every
meeting.
A
I'm
thinking
this
is
where
we
moved
the
approval
of
the
minutes
from
october
the
14th
and
we
do
have
a
quorum.
I
know
that
commissioner
and
gandhikota
can
not
todd.
Achary
cannot
vote
on
this
one,
but
there's
three
of
us
here
so
are:
do
we
have
any
comments
on
the
minutes
from
october
14th.
F
A
No
okay,
I
had
just
one
comment,
which
is
that
it
showed
that
I
was
abstaining
and
yet
I
was
actually
absent
in
september,
so
I
was
wondering
if
we
could
change
that
from
abstaining
to
absent.
For
me.
B
Just
to
clarify
when
we,
when
we
just
looked
through
and
and
thank
you
connie
gave
chair,
cunningham,
gave
a
heads
up
on
this
input,
so
we
looked
into
it
and
what
we
understand
from
the
recording
is
that
you
were
not
absent
from
the
vote,
but
you
abstain
from
voting
since
you
were
absent
in
september,
so
that
would
be
it's
staying
for
those
minutes.
If
we
have
the
record
correct,
if
you
agree.
A
B
B
A
A
B
Sure,
chair
cunningham,
yes
vice
chair
parish.
Yes,
commissioner
bose,
yes,
commissioner,
tatachari.
A
Okay,
thank
you
so
after
that
piece
of
business,
let's
see
wait
a
minute,
my
notes
there.
They
are
so
after
that
and
that
and
that.
A
Now
we,
it
is
time
for
the
staff
and
commission
report
carrie.
Do
you
have
any
any
reports
for
us
this
morning.
B
J
A
B
I'm
I'm
prepared
so
that
the
big
thing
I
wanted
to
mention
to
you
is
that
the
future
work
program
suggests
the
suggestions
for
the
future
work
program.
Item
will
be
coming
to
commission
in
january,
so
that
will
be
january
9th
and
the
packet
will
come
out
shortly
after
the
new
year.
City
hall
will
be
closed
between
christmas
and
new
year's,
and
so
the
packet
will
come
out
shortly
after
that,
if,
if
not
before,
if
we
can
get
it
done,
okay.
A
D
A
Okay:
okay,
that's
fine,
because
we're
moving
on
to
the
topic
for
the
mayor's
meetings
and
although
commissioner
tatachari
has
one
I
also
have
one
from
yesterday,
so
I
can
do
mine
now
and
then
he
can
pick
up
when
he
comes
back.
A
Let's
make
sure
I
have
it
here,
okay,
so
this
was
yesterday
december,
the
eighth
five
o'clock
p.m,
and
mayor
darcy,
as
you
may
know,
has
been
re-um,
appointed
or
elected
by
his
peers
as
the
mayor.
So
he
was
the
mayor
and
liang
chao
was
also
elected
as
the
vice
chair
serving
for
next
year.
Then
I
wanted
to
also
say
that
diane
thompson
is
going
to
be
acting
city
manager
until
january,
when
jim
through
is
going
to
begin
his
term
in
january.
A
The
third
as
part
of
the
as
representing
the
housing
commission,
I
describe
the
housing
element,
requirements
and
the
online
simulation
tool,
and
I
provided
links
and
invited
all
the
commissioners
to
come
today
and
also
this
evening,
particularly
to
the
balancing
act
tool,
and
I
asked
them
to
invite
everyone
else
on
their
commission
and,
of
course,
any
friends
and
stuff
that
they
might
have.
That
might
be
interested.
A
I
also
mentioned
to
them
that
they
didn't
need
to
be
a
resident,
and
I
was
specifically
focused-
and
I
told
them
the
teen
commissioner
and
then
the
young
library
commissioner,
since
they
may
not
even
be
not
thinking
about
housing
at
this
time,
but
nevertheless
it's
our
future
that
we're
thinking
about
and
having
young
people
be
able
to
afford
homes.
A
A
I
mentioned
that
it
was
important
that
we
talk
about
the
benefits
of
the
the
new
housing
that
would
be
made
for
our
city
as
well
as
any
concerns
we
have
about
traffic
and
so
forth,
because
it's
a
it's
a
dynamic
we
need
to
work
on.
It
was
very
interesting
to
see
that
commissions
work
together.
A
I
note
that
we
have
oftentimes
have
a
person
here,
a
representative
from
the
planning
commission,
because
our
duties
do
meet
up
from
time
to
time
like
especially
in
this
housing
element.
Just
so
you
know,
the
library
has
a
donation
drop-off
for
food
drive
for
west
valley,
community
services.
If
you
would
like
to
make
a
donation
drop
there,
the
library
also
has
a
donor
wall
and
it's
still
open
to
people
who
would
like
to
donate
and
put
their
name
on
the
wall.
A
Then,
let's
see
the
library
is
going
to
have
a
ribbon
cutting
in
february
they're,
very
busy
commission
and
it's
just
wonderful
to
see
that
coming
along
the
teen
commission
is
working
on
mental
health
for
teens.
That's
a
very
important
topic:
ilonggo
ganga
from
the
pikeped
commission,
they're
working
on
several
projects,
including
vision,
zero
and
also
several
of
the
trail
projects.
He
updated
us
on
that.
A
The
planning
commission
vikram
was
there
so
talking
about
that.
Our
our
interest
in
that
group,
he
advised
that
the
planning
commission
has
approved
two
developments
that
would
be
coming
to
the
city
council
next
for
approval
canyon,
crossing
and
batte
brothers,
two
different
locations,
two
different
housing
proposals.
A
He
told
us
that
there
had
been
concern
that
retail
wasn't
included.
Retail
wasn't
included
in
the
patel
brothers
proposal,
although
it
was
zoned
for
mixed
use,
and
he
suggested
that
the
planning
he
asked
and
suggests
that
the
planning
commission
be
involved
sooner
in
the
review
process
for
projects
and
mayor
paul
was
very
interested
in
that
process
topic
eric
sean,
who
is
from
public
safety.
A
A
Daisy
liang
was
there
from
the
audit
committee
they're
having
a
meeting
in
december
like
next
week
to
talk
about
the
audit
sudha
from
fine
arts.
They
partnered
with
the
library
commission
to
establish
coveted
poster.
I
think
it
was
a
some
kind
of
competition
for
elementary
schools
and
they're
going
to
have
a
second
art
talk
series.
If
you're
interested
in
the
art
talk
series,
you
would
want
to
chime
in
there
and
then
proverb
morty
from
the
tech
commission
he's
interested
in
using
tech
to
solve
theft,
problems
and
public
safety
said.
A
Yes,
they
would
like
to
be
involved
in
that
it
was
a
very
interesting
meeting
and
the
mayor
called
it
at
six
o'clock
because
he
had
to
go
pick
up
his
daughter
so
anyway.
That
was
very
interesting.
It
was
nice
to
be
there,
so
I
am
now
cooking
underneath
your
pants
would
be.
D
I
I
really
appreciate
this
very
detailed
information
from
the
mayor's
meeting.
I
didn't
take
that
level
of
detail
information,
but
whatever
I
can
recollect
and
whatever
I
made
notes
I'll
probably
present,
so
my
concern
had
always
been
about
rena
allocation
for
this
particular
cycle.
D
I
think
you
know
it's
a
it's
a
huge
challenge
for
the
city,
so
I
I
kind
of
elaborated
on
that
part
in
terms
of
comparing
how
much
growth
that
would
mean
in
terms
of
housing
units,
and
I
think
that
that
led
to
certain
kinds
of
questions
being
asked
by
others-
and
I
tried
to
answer
as
best
as
my
knowledge
of
reena
was-
and
definitely
it
looked
like
you
know
it.
D
The
team
team
commission,
as
well
as
the
bike
bed,
so
team
commission,
the
the
the
team,
was
actually
new
to
the
process,
she's
a
new
new.
So
she
would
not
give
she
did
not
have
as
much
to
say
library
commission
was
talking
about.
You
know
how
the
library,
what
is
it
called
edition,
is
going
on
in
terms
of
the
status
and
even
during
this
pandemic,
the
kind
of
number
of
books
being
you
know
used
and
how
libraries
being
used.
So
that
was
very
interesting
to
hear
then
parks
and
recreation.
D
They
were
talking
about
the
issue
with
rancher
enconada.
You
know
election
process
and
all
what
was
going
on
there.
So
I
mean
for
those
who
are
interested.
I
think
they
should
probably
attend
some
of
these
parks
and
recreation
meetings,
and
then
the
tech
commission
was
talking
about
how
they
can
use
technology
for
tuning
the,
especially
the
delays
and
stuff
like
that
and
how
you
know
they
plan
to
have
some
issue.
They
had
some
issue
with
on
lawrence
expressway.
D
I
believe
somebody
who
was
the
there
was
a
police
chase
and
then
the
person
who
was
trying
to
do
a
cross
you
know
was
in
the
crosswalk
permitted
to
cross
the
cross
in
the
crosswalk
he
was
hit
because
the
person
who
was
being
chased-
you
know
the
the
the
alleged
offender-
was
actually
ran
over
him.
Something
like
that.
D
A
Thank
you
for
your
report
back
and
I
would
say
that
where
we
are
now
in
the
agenda
is
future
agenda
setting.
I
know
that
carrie
just
mentioned
that
we
will
be
discussing
that
january
9th.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
any
other
comments
on
this
particular
part
of
the
agenda,
anybody,
no,
I
seeing
those.
A
Then
it
looks
like
we're
getting
ready
to
adjourn,
but
before
we
adjourn,
I
wanted
to
give
one
last
shout
out
for
the
meeting
tonight
at
six
o'clock,
all
of
us
to
go
to
it
so
that
we
understand
better,
that
mapping
tool
the
interactive
one
where
people
can
put
input
in
and
get
so
that,
as
we
talk
to
anybody,
we
know
we
can.
Let
them
be
aware
of
that
meeting
tonight
and
other
ongoing
use
of
that
tool,
and
with
that
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
your
time
today.