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Coverage of the October 26, 2021 Cupertino Planning Commission Teleconference Meeting.
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A
So
if
you're,
a
member
of
the
public
wishing
to
comment
on
an
item
on
the
agenda,
you
may
do
so
in
a
few
ways:
email
comments
by
5
pm,
which
hopefully
you
have
or
email
comments
during
the
times
for
public
comment
during
the
meeting
or
of
course
you
can
actually
raise
your
hand
in
the
middle
of
the
zoom
conference.
So
with
that,
let's
hand
that
over
and
do
a
roll
call
so
over
you
to
you.
Sarah.
C
D
D
A
A
E
E
So
tonight
I'm
here
to
present
some
information
on
a
survey
we
are
currently
distributing
have
just
begun
distributing
and
the
survey
addresses
the
city
council
work
plan
item
and
the
intent
of
this
presentation
is
to
garner
your
support
in
spreading
the
word
and
encouraging
participate.
Participation
in
the
upcoming
survey.
E
This
survey
has
just
launched
last
week
and
is
available
online
at
cupertino.org,
senior
and
engagedcupertino.org
and,
in
addition
to
the
digital
survey,
hard
copies
are
available
for
pickup
at
the
clement
community
center,
the
cupertino
senior
center
and
cupertino
library.
Those
completed
forms
may
be
returned
at
either
the
clinton
community
center
or
the
senior
center.
The
survey
either
has
already
been,
or
will
be,
announced
on
the
city's
social
media
outlets
in
the
cupertino
scene
and
in
the
cupertino
senior
center's
newsletter,
the
50-plus
scene.
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A
E
E
A
With
that,
let's
move
on
to
approval
minutes,
subject
approved
the
september
28th
planning
commission
meanings
minutes
recommended
action
approved
the
september
28th
planning
commission
minutes.
So
anyone
had
a
chance
to
read
the
draft
minutes.
Please
take
some
time
to
do
that
and
then,
of
course,
someone
please
make
a.
D
A
C
D
H
A
Much
all
right
now
for
my
favorite
part
of
the
meeting
oral
communications
is
the
portion
of
the
meeting.
That's
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
commission
on
any
matter
within
the
jurisdiction
of
the
commission
and
not
on
the
agenda.
Speakers
are
limited
to
three
minutes
and
in
most
cases,
state
law
will
provide
the
commission
from
making
any
decisions
with
respect
to
a
matter
not
on
the
agenda.
So
so,
yes,
if
you've
got
something
that
you'd
like
to
ask
and
join.
Please
raise
your
hand.
A
I
Thank
you
very
much,
mr
chair
hi,
I'm
jennifer
griffin
and
I
just
I've
been
following
something:
that's
called
plan
bay
area
2050,
and
this
is
the
I
guess,
the
descendant
of
plan
bay
area,
2040
and
last.
I
think
it
was
last
friday,
abag
and
mtc
voted
to
endorse
this
plan,
and
I
am
very
very
concerned
that
we're
kind
of
putting
the
cart
before
the
horse
with
this
type
of
planning
it
this
this.
I
This
is
where
we
got
some
of
the
housing
bills
from
we're
also
having
situations
where
we
have
bills,
like,
I
think
it's
ab-1401,
where
it
will
reduce
parking
across
the
state,
and
all
of
this
is
coming
from
this
type
of
document
called
plan
bay
area
in
this
case
2050..
If
you
look
at
it,
it
is
pretty
revolutionary.
I
It's
like
you
can't
drive
cars.
You
can't
they're
gonna,
basically
take
over
city
control.
I
mean
it's.
Yes,
maybe
I'm
exaggerating,
but
this
is
something
that
was
invoked
by
rena
last
year
without
anyone's
input
and
that's
how
we
wound
up
with
all
these
sky-high
housing
numbers-
and
I'm
just
thinking
at
this
point
if
abag
and
mtc
are
already
endorsing
this
type
of
I'll
call
it
secret
document.
I
Basically,
are
they
going
to
throw
it
on
to
the
arena
next
year
and
we're
going
to
have
four
times
what
the
number
of
housing
units
required
that
we
have
now.
I
feel
like
this
is
some
sort
of
a
secret
society
secret
government
that
the
public
and
the
cities
aren't
invited
to.
I
feel
like
sometimes
these
people
have
taken
over
control
of
the
legislator.
I
I
As
far
as
I
understood,
this
state
is
run
as
a
democracy
and
we
don't
give
away
our
votes
and
our
control
to
non-public
groups,
and
if
mtc
and
abag
are
contributing
to
something
that
is
excluding
the
public,
then
we
need
to
have
an
investigation
into
this,
and
I
think
that
I
don't
like
the
road
we're
going
down.
This
is
a
very
undemocratic
way.
I
don't
know
how
the
democratic
party
is
looking
at
this,
but
I'm
very
very
concerned
that
we're
kind
of
going
off
the
rails
here
and
we're
going
into
secret
society
land.
A
A
B
A
J
J
J
Oh
yeah,
oh
yeah
yeah,
so
you
know
colonial
pipeline
gas
company
printing
is,
I
believe,
was
a
a
meat
processing
in
uk
and
then
jbs
food.
So
it
was
another.
Sorry
french
was
a
pharmaceutical
anyhow.
Many
of
these
companies
ended
up
having
to
pay
money
to
the
bad
guys,
and
that's
not
a
good
good
thing
to
do
in
the
first
place,
but
they
weren't
at
at
their
knees
and
needed
to
get
their
information
back.
J
You
know-
and
I
know
that
I
don't
think
they've
come
to
a
resolve
yet,
but
I
think
that's
so
ongoing,
but
these
are
things
that
are
happening
every
day,
not
only
for
companies
but
in
people's
personal
lives.
There's
so
many
there
have
been
so
many
data
breaches
known
from
the
past
and,
for
instance,
target
right
for
the
consumers.
J
J
Maybe
both
one
will
be
to
enter
your
email
for
the
no
before
dashboard
and
then
it
will
be
redirected
to
the
city
of
cupertino
login
and
go
ahead
and
enter
that
as
well,
and
once
you
get
once
you
do
those
two
things
you
should
be
successful
in
your
dashboard
and
you'll
see
this
training
here.
It
should
take
you
no
more
than
20
minutes
at
most,
depending
on
how
quickly
you're
able
to
get
the
material,
but
once
you've
started.
J
Please
finish
it
till
the
end,
and
once
you're
done
we'll
get
a
notification
that
you've
finished
and
completed
it
again,
important
things
it
doesn't
take
a
lot
of
time,
but
it
it
builds
and
sets.
Some
you
know,
gives
you
some
skills
life
skills
to
safeguard
yourself
and
your
hangers
and
your
family.
Do
I
have
any
questions.
G
G
J
Unfortunately,
because
we
are
using
a
third
party
to
host
training,
it's
kind
of
hard
to
kind
of
get
integrated
with
our
systems,
okay,
doing
our
best
to
kind
of
make
it
look
more
familiar,
but
this
is
also
the
reason
why
we've
been
coming
to
training
or
to
meetings
to
kind
of
get
you
guys
familiar
right.
So
at
least
know
what
the
good
emails
from
us
look
like.
D
K
H
J
H
C
H
G
And
by
the
way,
this
is
not
unique
to
you
know
here,
like
you
know,
I
have
a
thing
because
to
our
company
you
know
I.t
department
as
well
right,
so
I
tell
them,
like
you
know:
hey
anything
that
comes
from
a
third
party,
I'm
not
going
to
click.
Unless
you
know
somebody
trusted
tells
me
that
no
it's
okay
to
click
on
that.
J
Right
right,
I
get
it
yep
yeah,
usually
before
we
send
out
trainings.
We
do
try
to
send
out
a
massive
email
to
everyone,
just
to
remind
them.
Hey
keep
a
lookout
for
such
such
and
such
an
email
whatever
it
is
that
we're
sending
out,
but
you
know
everyone
gets
so
many
emails.
It
often
gets
buried.
So
that's
why
we
make
sure
they
also
come
in
to
come
to
this
meeting
just
in
case
they've,
missed
it
and
then
they're
aware
of
what
to
look
for
so
with
that
being
said,
any
other
questions.
C
C
J
A
A
L
L
L
A
Yeah,
thank
you
pew.
I
believe
we
worked
on
that
format
from
the
last
couple
planning
commission
meetings
so
that
we
get
to
a
point
where
we
could
actually
prioritize
and
highlight
the
areas
that
were
important,
the
areas
that
were
in
effect
and,
of
course,
the
areas
that
had
been
completed.
So
it's
given
it's
a
new
planning
commission.
It's
if
there's
anything,
you
guys
want
to
change
or
take
a
look.
If
you
had
a
chance
that
might
make
it
easier
to
share
information
collaborate,
please
definitely
provide
some
suggestions
as
well.
H
H
Can
we,
even
though
it's
not
required?
I
would
love
it
if
we
also
reported
on
the
projects
that
the
city
council
has
approved
and
that
the
property
owners
are
free
to
get
permits
on
when
they
choose
to
do
so,
and
you
know
the
reason,
is
the
city
council
approved
way
more
than
our
arena
requirement
in
the
last
cycle
and
yet
because
of
various
factors,
the
economy,
other
issues,
a
lot
of
the
property
owners
have
chosen
not
to
build
their
projects,
and
it
kind
of
you
know
we
get
attacked
as
a
city.
Oh,
look.
H
You
haven't
built
any
housing
when,
in
fact
you
know
we,
we
have
no
power
at
all
to
force
someone
that
has
an
approved
project
to
actually
build.
So
I
would
just
like
that
to
be
part
of
the
report
out,
even
though
it's
not
required
by
state
law,
and
they
really,
you
know,
they're
emphasizing
permits
for
their
own
for
their
own
agenda,
but
I
think
we
should
also
talk
about
the
fact
that
we
don't
build
housing.
The
property
owners
build
it
at
their.
You
know
at
their
option.
L
I
just
wanted
to
respond
to
that.
I
did
want
to
assure
the
commission
that
that
report
out
is
made
to
the
council,
so
while
those
are
not
reported
on
the
forms
that
ecd
puts
together
because
there
is
no
spot
to
do
do
so,
hcd
is
only
collecting
forms
related
to
building
permits
issued.
However,
when
the
report
is
made
to
council,
we
do
report
out
on
the
number
of
housing
units
that
the
city
has
approved.
K
A
There's
a
possible
way
to
actually
put
an
addendum.
I
think
it's
very
important
if
we
can
do
something
like
if
there's
a
way
to
do
an
addendum.
I
agree
with
vice
chair
scharf
immensely.
Here
we
are
subject
to
an
attack
with
a
false
narrative
that
we
haven't
done
our
part
when
the
part
that
we
could
provide
is
has
been
completed
yet
the
other
half,
which
is
the
actual
construction
and
the
pulling
of
permits,
has
not
been
delivered
on
our
end,
and
so
I
think
it's
if
there's
a
way
we
can
make
that
available.
A
If
we're
waking
to
look
into
that
as
an
amendment,
even
though
it's
not
done
to
the
form,
if
we
can
submit
that,
I
think
that
will
make
our
point
because
we've
been
suffering
a
false
narrative,
false
attack
from
members
of
the
press
and
in
the
belief
of
some
administrators
in
some
of
the
departments.
So
I
think
it's
important
piece
to
be
able
to
convey
back.
L
A
H
H
A
I
Yeah,
I
know
I
with
this
little
tablet,
still
working,
which
is
amazing
anyway.
Yes,
I
you
know
the
fact
that
you
all
brought
up
hcd,
my
favorite
california
institution.
I'm
not,
I
think
hcd
is
for
the
whole
state,
I'm
not
sure.
But
yes,
you
know
we
have
this
ongoing
once
often
one-sided
dialogue,
kind
of
like
nanny
state,
where
a
lot
of
I
don't
know
institutions
in
california,
keep
beating
on
the
cities
and
saying
you
know,
nina
nina.
I
You
didn't
do
this
and
we
do
have
a
lot
of
construction
that
has
been
approved
for
housing,
but
nobody
ever
came
and
built
anything,
and
I
you
know,
of
course
the
developers
have
that
prerogative.
I
I
had
two
questions.
One
of
them
is,
with
this
type
of
land
things
that
there
are
sitting
permits
that
have
not
been
used.
Yet
is
the
land
actually
physically
upzoned
at
this
point
on
these
projects
and
does
the
upzoning
stay
and
run
with
the
land?
I
Even
if
the
permits
expire,
et,
cetera,
et
cetera,
nobody's
I
haven't?
I
don't
know
how
that
works.
Also,
we
have
a
new
entity
in
california
called
the
housing
accountability
unit,
which
was
from
our
governor
in
his
budget
from
june,
and
it's
a
bunch
of
money,
that's
being
given
to
hcd
with
a
bunch
of
being
people.
I
I
think
there
are
25
positions
that
are
hired
by
hcd
to
invoke
the
housing
accountability
unit,
which
is
basically
the
go-getter
to
get
the
gotcha
saying
you
know
you
haven't,
met
your
arena
numbers
and
I'm
a
bit
concerned
about
when
we
have
hcb
doing
this,
and
then
we
have
a
whole
bunch
of
housing
construction
that
has
been
approved,
but
we
have
many
many
areas
in
the
city
where
we
have
permits
that
are
sitting
idle.
The
land
is
idle
and
nobody's
built
for
housing.
What
is
the
housing
accountability
unit
going
to
be
doing?
I
Are
they
going
to
be
coming
in,
like
the
like,
a
overseeing
group
and
saying?
Oh,
you
didn't
do
this
when
it's
not
our
fault,
because
the
developers
didn't
do
anything.
So
I
we
have
a
whole
new
entity
in
here
the
housing
accountability
unit,
and
we
probably
need
to
start
looking
at
what
are
these
people
going
to
be
doing
and
how?
I
How
do
they
think
they're
involved
in
this,
because
I
we
have
too
many
fingers
in
the
pot
here
and
the
public
and
the
cities
aren't
allowed
to
say
anything
and
it's
kind
of
like
you
had
a
nursery
school
teachers
that
kept
yelling
at
their
students
when
the
students
had
no
way
to
say
anything.
Yes,
we
did
this.
I
I'm
really
we're
living
in
a
nanny
state
basically,
anyway,
thank
you
for
your
comments.
If
you
could
talk
about
the
upzoning
too
for
the
these
properties,
I
would
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
A
H
F
So
so
general
planned
amendments,
don't
expire.
Other
projects,
entitlement
do
other
project
entitlements.
Do
they?
Typically,
you
know
they
are
quotable.
They
have
a
two-year
period.
After
you
know,
a
development
permit
is
issued,
so
so
those
those
entitlements
would
expire.
A
general
plan
amendment
would
remain
in
place
less
than
or
until
it's
reversed.
G
So
it's
to
me:
no
that
doesn't
make
sense
right.
So
so
could
we
make
that
conditional
where
you
know
like
the
approval,
is
tied
to
the
general
plan?
Amendment?
That's
that's
granted
for
the
project.
So
if
the
project
doesn't
come
to
fruition,
then,
along
with
you
know
the
expiry
the
general
plan
amendment
also
expires.
G
But
could
we
could
we
investigate
that,
and
you
know
make
that
because
and
that
will
force
the
developers
that
are
getting
these
approvals
in
order
to
pull
permits.
You
know
to
construct
otherwise
they're
going
to
get
the
they're
going
to
get
the
gpa
they're
going
to
get
the
approvals
for
the
project
not
built,
but
walk
away
with
the
gpa.
L
So
if
I
may
add,
I,
I
know
that,
for
purposes
of
the
hotel
that
was
approved
with
the
general
plan
amendment
on
de
anza,
I
think
the
general
plan
amendment
was
specifically
for
that
hotel
development.
So
it
was
some
other
kind
of
development
they
would
not.
They
would
have
to
adhere
to
the
underlying
general
plan
and
not
necessarily
to
the
general
plan
amendment
that
they
received
with
that
hotel
development.
G
L
G
Right
but
then
you
know
they
could
also
sit
on
it
forever
right
without
building
one
right.
So
so
the
whole
idea
of
you
know
granting
that
you
know
general
plan
amendment,
you
know
it's
just
you
know
it's
a
benefit.
You
know
they
got,
but
you
know
they
didn't
do
anything
with
it
other
than
it's
just
a
game
right
and
there
is
no,
you
know
strings
attached
to
the
game.
L
So
yes,
the
the
listing
is
a
listing
of
all
the
city's
general
plan
policy
strategies
and
there
is
no
priority
in
it.
The
whole
process,
as
we
go
through
the
general
plan
annual
review,
like
I
mentioned
this-
is
where
the
commission
and
city
council
makes
their
priorities
known
in
terms
of
they
can
use
this
process
to
identify
work
program
items
that
they
wish
to
prioritize.
C
Of
course,
there
the
priority
isn't
built
in
it
because
the
order
in
which
they
were
executed,
I
guess
the
one
which
matters
there
is
the
one
which
are
pending
and
which
are
color
coded
in
your
tables,
so
how
to
read
that
in
that
case,
everything
noted
in
that
is
of
equal
priority.
Or
is
it
something
basically
for
anybody
to
review
that
that
project?
How
does
he
go
about
doing
it
in
the
sense
that,
because
it
is
pending-
and
it
is
not
yet
yet
to
execute?
C
M
L
It
just
depends
on
the
council's
priorities.
Essentially,
if
the
council
prioritizes
an
item,
we
would
move
that
up
the
the
chain-
I
guess
and
or
you
know,
in
terms
of
priority
in
terms
of
the
color
coding.
That's
on
there
that's
more
of
a
you
know.
The
yellow
items
are
the
ones
that
are
in
progress,
I
believe,
and
then
the
green
ones
are
ones
that
are
completed,
for
example,
and
so
we're
just
you
know.
L
The
annual
report
is
not
where
you
identify
your
priorities.
It's
the
work
program
where
you
identify
your
priorities,
but
this
is,
you
can
go
through
the
annual
report
to
offline.
Do
your
own
prioritization
and
when
the
work
program
discussion
happens,
you
can
bring
up
those
work
program
items
at
that
meeting.
L
C
L
C
C
L
L
The
planning
department
works
on
the
items
related
to
land
use,
for
example,
and
so
there
are,
you
know
several
divisions
of
departments
that
are
working
on
each
of
these
items,
so
there
isn't
a
priority
list
that
I
have,
or
you
know
that
that
can
be
created
across
all
divisions
and
departments,
and
so
all
of
these
things
are
occurringly
occurring.
You
know,
concurrently
in
a
sense.
C
Yeah,
what
I
mean
by
priority
is
not
exactly
that
a
priority
in
this
in
the
way
that
it
has
to
be
executed
and
anything
like
that
if
they
had
substantial
discretion
happen.
That
is
somehow
captured
in
that
table
that
this
has
been.
This
item
has
gone
through
a
significant
amount
of
of
review
process
or
whatever,
and
some
items
are
fairly
new
in
there
all
of
them
are
yellow
it's
very
difficult
to
figure
out
that
which
you
have
already
taken
to
large
extent
and
discussed
it.
K
L
A
Yeah,
I
was
going
to
say
you
know
what
might
save
you
some
time,
commissioner
kapio
is.
We
can
play
you
videos
or
find
the
right
videos
from
last
year's
process
so
that
you
have
an
idea
of
what
to
expect
you
can
kind
of
see
how
the
interaction
worked
and
how
the
prioritization
and
color
coding
and
everything
works
in
terms
of
each
of
those
priorities.
That
will
give
you
some
context.
It's
pretty
hard
to
describe
verbally
here,
but
probably
easier
to
watch
in
the
video.
A
A
Oh,
we
should
point
you
to
where
the
videos
are.
Actually
this
we've
got
a
lot
of
videos
on
file
as
well,
so
something
to
do
so.
Okay,
I'm
gonna,
move
on.
I
don't
know
if
we
have
any
other
comments
here,
but
this
does
take
us
to
the
next
one,
which
was
a
good
segue.
Commissioner,
kapil
subject:
item
number
five
look
ahead
at
2022
planning,
commission
meetings
and
this
is
really
receiving
a
report
and
review
the
resources
provided
your
convenience
in
preparation
for
upcoming
topics.
A
We
had
an
agenda
planning
meeting
where
we're
trying
to
figure
out
what's
up
right,
what's
coming
up
in
january,
what's
coming
up
so
I
mean
it's
probably
two
hour
by
month,
but
at
least
we
can
do
by
quarter
and
understand
you
know
what's
out
there
and
it
gives
us
an
idea
what
to
prepare
for-
and
I
think
it's
very
important
as
well
as
we
especially
get
into
arena
numbers
and
housing
element,
policies
and
stuff
like
that.
To
make
sure
we
have
the
right
resources
as
well.
So
pass
this
on
back
to
you
pew.
L
L
You
know
that
the
site
selection,
which
is
probably
the
first
thing
that
is
going
to
occur
with
regard
to
the
housing
element,
update
which
needs
to
be
completed
by
january
of
2023
in
terms
of,
and
that
we
expect
to
occur
sometime
in
the
winter
of
2022.
So
in
the
january,
through
march
time
frame
in
spring
and
summer
of
2022,
we
expect
that
you
know
we.
We
expect
an
urgency.
L
Ordinance
potentially
would
happen
before
january
1st
of
2022,
and
then
that
the
you
know,
council
would
direct
staff
to
work
on
a
regular
ordinance
related
to
sb9
and
you
know,
associated
housing
bills,
and
we
expect
that
to
happen
in
spring
through
summer
of
2022,
to
establish
a
regular
ordinance
to
implement
any
requirements.
The
city
wishes
to
see
again
with
regard
to
housing
element
update.
L
You
know
there's
there's
sort
of
two
parts
to
it:
one
I
already
talked
about
the
site
selection
and
then
the
rest
about
the
rest
of
it
is
the
policies
that
go
along
with
it.
The
technical
analysis
will
lead
to
policies
that
the
city
must
adopt
in
order
to
generate
more
housing
and
also
the
environmental
review
associated
with
that.
L
So
all
of
that
is
expected
to
occur
in
the
fall
of
next
year,
and
then
there
is
also
the
mixed
use
and
residential
design
guidelines,
which
is
a
lot
of
objective
standards,
and
you
know
design
features
that
that
you
know
we
can
implement
on
projects
and
that
project
we're
hoping
will
be.
You
know,
coming
to
planning,
commission
and
council
in
late
of
late
fall
2022..
L
So
all
of
these
will
sort
of
these
are
the
big
things
that
we
think
will
occur
in
2022.
and
in
the
stack
report
I
did
want
to
point
out.
There
were
certain
resources
that
we
links
that
we
provided
to
help
the
commission
prepare
for
these
items.
You
know
we
provided
a
few
links
to
how
regarding
the
housing
element,
there
was
a
link
to
hcd's
website
where
it
talks
about
what
is
a
housing
element
why
it's
needed.
It
provides
links
to
other
jurisdictions.
Housing
elements
approved
housing
elements.
L
You
know
arena
talks
if
there's
a
lot
of
information
on
the
hcd's
website,
there's
also
a
link
to
a
presentation
from
the
planners
academy,
where
planning
commission
academy,
I
think,
and
that
that
provides
information
on
the
housing
element
update
as
well,
and
also
there
were
some
helpful
links
to
other
cities.
You
know
objective
standard
design,
guidelines
as
well
to
help
the
commission
understand
what
are
objective
design
standards
and
how
other
cities
have
been
implementing
them.
A
A
L
A
A
D
A
Very
cool,
oh
my
god.
What
are
we
doing?
This
meeting's
moving
too
fast?
Maybe
we'll
stay
here
for
another
hour,
just
kidding
all
right.
That's
our
staffing
commission
report.
I
don't
know
if
we
used
to
have
another
item
that
was
really
about
future
meetings,
but
I
think
that
covered
for
that
any
other
things
from
commissioners.
Anything
you
guys
want
to
talk
about
any
kind
of
like
your
reports.
Anything
you
want
to
add
things.
Meetings
you've
been
to
things
happen
through
the
week.
We'll
do
that.
H
A
I
All
right
anyway,
oh
wow,
you
talk
about
brave
new
world.
You
guys
were
talking
about
items
for
for
next
year.
It's
like
the
future
of
the
planning
commission,
and
I
just
feel
like
with
sb9
and
sb10.
We
have
gone
over.
Niagara
falls
into
deep,
deep
bedlam.
I
you
know,
I'm
glad
you
all
are
going
to
be
going
to
the
planning
commissioner
academy
it's
kind
of
like
we
need
to
get
all
our
hats
on,
and
phds
and
stuff
in
this
stuff,
because
I
I
really
feel
like
sp9
and
10
just
kind
of
threw.
I
You
know
we
had
a
bunch
of
housing
bills
which
were
basically
really
lousy.
I
mean
they're
written
very
poorly.
I
I
you
know.
I've
spent
four
years
of
my
life
watching
the
housing
bills
march
5.
and
sp
9
and
10,
just
for
like
soviet
socialist
republic,
took
over
the
state
and
I'm
really
basically
both
of
them
really
freaked
me
out.
I
really
don't
understand
or
know
where
we're
going
with
this.
I
I
really
feel
like
any
control
that
the
city
had
or
the
public
input
is
being
suppressed,
and
I
don't
like
the
direction
that
we're
going
with
nine
and
ten,
and
I
really
think
that
the
public
needs
to
be
heard
on
this,
because
this
is
going
to
basically
take
over
a
lot
of
what
is
happening
in
the
city
in
in
our
planning
commission
city
council.
I
can
tell
you
right
now:
there
is
going
to
be
bedlam
in
the
suburbs.
You
are
going
to
have
neighborhoods.
I
If
nine
and
10
get
invoked,
we're
going
to
have
neighborhoods,
you
know
neighbors
having
to
ask
questions,
we're
going
to
have
townhouse
and
condo
association
complexes.
Why
is
this
person
dividing
up
their
condo
and
putting
in
a
four-story
building
hoas
are
going
to
be
coming
into
the
city
asking?
What
are
my
rules?
Why
is
somebody
converting
you
know
the
the
washroom
and
the
garages
and
the
public
parking
spaces
into
five-story
townhouses?
I
I
mean
this
is
we're
in
the
wild
wild
west
here
and
I
I
really
don't
feel
like
we
have
any
any
control
or
any
direction.
That's
coming
from
the
state
is
confused
and
misguided,
and
this
is
basically
being
thrust
upon
the
cities,
so
our
staff,
our
employees
in
this
in
the
city,
are
the
ones
that
have
to
help
us
wade
through
this
muddle
and
it
is
a
muddle.
It
is
a
dirt
pile.
I
It
is
the
worst
storm
you
ever
saw
and
I
I
really
think
that
nine
and
ten
are
going
to
clog
up
most
of
what
we
do
as
the
city
in
the
next
coming
years.
I'm
hoping
that
the
initiative
will
suppress
nine
and
ten
when
it
comes
up
in
november,
but
I
have
grade
reservations
about
where
we're
going
with
nine
and
ten,
and
I
feel
like
the
legislator
and
the
governor
is
hostile
to
us.
But,
yes,
thank
you
brave
staff.
We
are,
we
will
go
forward
and
our
elected
officials.
A
G
Okay,
thank
you
so
vikram
and
I
did
a
design
committee
review
last
week
where
we
interviewed
two
projects
and
one
of
them
was,
you
know,
house,
that's
being
rebuilt
on
imperial
avenue
the
exception
that
they
were
seeking
was
you
know
they
sit
back
from
the
side
yards
right
there.
Next
to
the
house,
like
it's
a
15
feet.
G
G
You
know
room
for
sit
back
so
so
vikram
and
I
we
approved
it
the
other
one
was
you
know
the
mattress
firm
signage
where
you
know
they
have
default
approval
for
no
one
signage
facing
the
street
and
they
they
wanted
to
sign,
and
you
know
and
looks
like
you
know,
the
previous
tenant.
You
know
at
that
location
had
two
signage
and
and
it's
pretty
common.
You
know
to
have
two
signs.
You
know
in
that
kind
of
a
setup,
and
so
we
approved
that
exception
as
well
just
wanted
to
report
on
that.