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Coverage of the Tuesday, August 16, 2022 Cupertino City Council Hybrid Meeting. (Part 2 of 2)
A
Hello,
everyone
so
we're
back
on
our
agenda.
Item
number
24
again
is
to
discuss
priority
housing
sites
for
the
year's
2023
through
2031
housing
element
update
our
presenter
this
evening
is
luke
connolly,
a
senior
planner
with
the
city
of
cupertino
in
the
community
development
department
and
so
welcome
luke.
Please
take
this
presentation
away.
B
B
I
want
to
talk
for
a
few
minutes
because
we're
going
to
be
getting
into
some
terms
that
people
will
be
familiar
with
we'll
be
seeing
these
on
the
zoom
presentation,
but
I
just
wanted
to
go
over
some
things
before
we
jump
into
the
sites
and
the
discussion
that
andy
will
be
leading
for
those
people
who
haven't
been
following
this
project.
The
housing
element
update
is
something
that
occurs
every
eight
years.
B
The
major
component
that
people
are
familiar
with
when
the
update
process
begins
and
one
that
we'll
be
talking
tonight
as
referenced
in
the
staff
report,
is
the
regional
housing
needs
allocation
or
arena
which
is
essentially
a
way
of
the
state
through
the
housing
and
community
development
department.
Identifying
what
your
city's
housing
needs
are
for
the
planning
period
for
the
eight
year
cycle,
which
in
this
case
is
2023
to
2031.
B
the
city's
arena.
For
those
who
aren't
aware,
went
up
considerably
from
the
last
time,
as
has
happened
with
all
cities
throughout
california.
The
arena
is
4588
units.
So
when
we
talk
about
the
site's
inventory
tonight,
essentially,
what
we're
doing
is
trying
to
find
the
properties
and
the
densities
to
accommodate
that
arena
number,
and
we
will
be
looking
at
that.
There
was
an
attachment,
a
in
in
the
staff
report,
which
is
called
the
recommended
sites
inventory.
B
That's
essentially,
what's
identifying
the
sites
we're
looking
at
that
would
accommodate
the
arena
and
then
some
another
reason.
The
site's
inventory
is
a
key
element
to
get
approved.
It's
it's
quite
a
bit
to
take
on,
but
it
is
the
main
thing
that
we
need
to
get
approved
in
order
to
start
our
environmental
review
or
sql
process.
We
need
to
know
what
properties
we're
looking
at
and
how
many
housing
units
could
be
added
within
the
eight
years
in
order
to
analyze
what
that
means
for
the
city.
B
Since
late
january
january,
25,
specifically,
staff
and
emc
has
had
six
meetings
with
planning
commission
the
latter
two
of
those
were
joint
meetings
with
the
housing
commission
on
june
28
in
july
five,
which
is
what
resulted
in
the
recommended
sites
inventory.
We
have
before
us
tonight
again,
which
is
attachment
a
of
the
staff
report
for
people
that
may
be
following
along
on
that
recommended
sites
inventory.
I
just
want
to
clarify
some
terms
that
are
going
to
be
used
frequently.
B
We
have
what
are
called
pipeline
projects.
These
are
simply
projects
that
have
approvals
or
are
far
along
in
the
approval
process,
but
are
not
yet
built.
They
don't
have
building
permits
and
construction
hasn't
started,
but
these
are
projects
that
could
be
built
without
further
discretionary
approvals
by
the
city
sites
like
the
former
valco
or
the
hampton's
apartment
sites.
Are
your
notable
properties.
A
B
B
B
We
will
be
going
through
that
shortly
and
if
you
attended
the
planning,
commission
and
housing
commission
meetings,
the
order
in
which
we're
going
to
go
through
that
will
be
starting
in
the
eastern
portion
of
the
city
and
moving
to
the
west.
We
will
be
starting
with
the
valco
shopping
district
and
the
north
valco
park
areas
again
going
through
the
neighborhoods
and
special
areas
of
the
city.
B
A
D
So
it
will
be
up
to
the
council
for
how
much
time
we
spend
with
each
of
these
areas,
and
we
will
be
going
back
and
forth
according
to
the
attachments
that
were
included
in
your
packet
tonight,
so
we'll
be
looking
at
the
list
and
then
we'll
also
be
utilizing
our
balancing
act
map.
So
the
home
and
council
can
follow
to
discover
which
sites
may
lead
to
further
discussion
which
sites
we
may
move
forward
with.
A
Okay,
so
andy,
let
me
understand
your
proposal
here,
so
what
you
would
like
us
to
do
is
to
go
through
in
numerical
order.
These
16
listed
areas
is
that
correct
and
then,
after
each
area,
you
would
like
us
to
ask
questions
and
consider
those
areas.
You
know
piecemeal,
or
are
you
suggesting
a
different
format
in
in
terms
of
how
your
presentation
is
going
to
go
because.
A
I
like
to
do
is
to
give
you
the
opportunity
to
provide
the
presentation
and
then
get
some
public
commentary
and
then
bring
it
into
the
council,
so
that
we,
you
know,
basically
have
a
sentiment
of
the
public
in
addition
to
the
information
that
you're
providing
us.
And
so
if
you
were
to
provide
that
information
in
presentation
format
from
a
consolidated
whole
about
how
much
time
would
that
take
you.
D
Well,
a
consolidated
whole.
We
can
look
to
the
whole
of
the
list
that
we
provided,
so
we
could
go
page
by
page.
I
don't
know
if
that,
if,
if
that,
that
could
be
a
big
and
and
if
anyone
wants
to
go
deeper
in
and
and
to
look
at
the
maps
that
correspond
with
the
list
of
sites
that
we've
moved
through
planning
commission
as
a
recommended
list
of
tier
one
and
pipeline
projects
and
tier
two
as
backup
sites,
we
could
do
that.
A
Okay,
well
let
me
let
me
just
repeat
my
question
one
more
time
about
how
long
would
it
take
you
to
go
through
that
presentation
if
it
was
as
a
con
just
so
I
can
get
a
sense
of
you
know
the
the
timing
of
this.
We
stand
at
8,
43
isn't
going
to
take
you
an
hour?
Is
it
going
to
take
you
90
minutes
I
mean
about
how
long
would
it
take
if
we
were
to
take
a
presentation,
take
public
comment
and
then
bring
it
back
to
council
for
follow-on
questions.
D
I
think
we
are
anticipating.
This
would
be
more
of
a
workshop,
that
we
would
be
going
area
and
there
would
be
discussion
for
each
area
similar
to
what
we
did
for
the
planning
commission,
but
if
we're
otherwise
just
going
to
be
looking
at
the
list.
That
is
something
that
I
could
present
in
a
very
short
amount
of
time,
but
I
don't
know
how
meaningful
it
would
be
if
it
would.
A
Well,
let's
try
it
the
way
that
you're
describing
at
this
time.
I
think
one
thing
that
would
help
with
the
public
is
to
visualize
a
map
rather
than
a
list
of
16
locations,
and
I
do
see
some
hands
raised
from
my
colleagues
on
the
diocese
here
so
before
we
go
into
that
andy
in
the
interest
of
trying
to
make
sure
that
we
have
both
an
efficient
and
an
effective
process.
Let
me
talk
to
vice
mayor
chao,
followed
by
council
member
moore
vice
mayor
chow.
Did
you
have
a
comment.
C
So
I
am,
this
is
the
first
time
this
item
comes
to
the
council
agenda
and
many
of
the
audience
who
attend
council
meeting
have
not
attended
the
planning
or
any
other
commission
meetings,
and
I
feel
that
there
seems
to
be
some
background.
Information
missing.
There
should
have
been
slides
of
the
location,
slides
of
our
performance
from
the
previous
housing
element,
which
I
actually
requested.
C
In
the
last
time,
housing
element
was
on
the
console
agenda,
and
this
was
the
format
back
in
2014
it
was
presented
here
is
a
location
from
last
time,
five
housing
elements
identified,
five
housing
government
approved,
and
then
now
this
year,
this
cycle,
we
have
this
many
units
and
how
many
have
been
approved.
There
should
have
been
a
table,
and
here
this
many
pipeline
units,
what
those
means
and
how
many
we
still
need
to
identify
that
piece
of
background
information
appears
to
be
missing
right.
A
F
Go
back
here,
yes,
thank
you,
so
I
I
did
print
out
a
map
and
it
doesn't
match
with
any
of
these
sites
and
I'm
on
the
the
page
showing
the
the
projects
and
the
listing
goes
up
to
26
north
falco
park
on
on
the
engagecupertino.org
site
available
housing
sites.
Page
I
go
to
downloadable
documents,
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
is
having
this
problem,
but
the
reference
map
for
recommended
sites.
I
click
on
that
hoping
it
tells
me
site
can't
be
reached.
F
F
Yes,
the
because,
on
the
in
the
recommended
sites
inventory
you
have
the
each
creston
far
lap
is.
Is
one
fair
grove,
two
garden
gate
three,
so
I
need
to
see
a
map
that
has
those
numbers
on
it.
You
know
large
enough
to
read
the
the
other
map
with
regards
to
balancing
act
also
had
numbers
on
it,
but
it
was.
They
were
all
different,
all
the
different
zones.
F
F
F
H
F
A
F
For
example,
10231
adriana,
I
believe
it's
adriana
avenue
it
was
a
1c
and
then
in
in
our
packet.
It's
now
changed.
So
it's
like
a
you
know
like
a
like
a
1,
1
e
or
something
so
those
have
altered
not
only
and
I
and
I
would
have
preferred
a
redlined
version,
so
we
would
know
what
was
removed
and
changed
from
the
planning,
commission
and
housing
commission.
When
it
came
to
us,
I
would
have
preferred
a
redline
version.
F
I
I
don't
quite
understand
why
it
appears
that
there's
been
a
group
in
heart
of
the
city
that
is,
that
is
opened
up
now,
but
I
think
that
it
could
significantly
change
things,
especially
when
you're
looking
at
minimum
densities
of
like
30
acre
30
dwelling
units
per
acre
on
a
10-acre
site.
That
is
a
that
that
is
potentially
a
300
unit
site,
which
it
changes
the
character
of
that
particular
area.
Quite
a
bit.
Okay,.
A
I
A
Understand
that
you
know
there
are
multiple
ways
of
going
about
this.
Do
we
dive
in
into
a
list
or
do
we
go
ahead
and
you
know
provide
a
map
in
some
context
in
presentation
format,
but
let
me
go
ahead
and
reference
a
couple
of
people
with
their
hands
up
in
the
zoom
function.
One
of
them
is
the
director
of
community
development
and
then
luke
connolly
also
has
his
hand
up.
A
J
A
A
It
would
probably
be
good
for
anyone
following
along
to
be
able
to
have
a
key
so
that
you
could.
You
know
reference
prior
discussions,
because
of
course
this
is
an
important
discussion
to
our
community,
and
a
number
of
people
are
following
this
quite
closely,
and
so
you
know,
I
think
the
points
are
legitimate.
Let's
go
to
luke
at
this
point.
Luke
did
you
want
to
have
a
follow-up
comment
before
we
brought
it
back
to
our
outside
consultant.
B
Yes,
thank
you
mayor.
Just
briefly,
I
I
wanted
to
try
to
respond
to
council
member
moore's
comment
about
sites
being
added,
particularly
in
the
heart
of
the
city.
Crossroads
area
sites
have
been
added,
but
they're
all
listed
as
what
are
tier
two
sites,
which
I
think
will
get
clearer
as
as
andy's
able
to
proceed
that
those
are
not
sites
that
are
recommended
for
approval,
but
are
listed
in
this
case
because
a
couple
of
those
sites,
the
fontanas
restaurant,
the
pizza
hut
site
in
particular,
came
up
during
commission
meetings.
B
So
we
added
those
as
potential
if
there
was
going
to
be
any
interest
in,
say
swapping
out
sites
that
way,
those
tier
two
properties
would
be
there.
So
they
are
not
part
of
the
recommendation
to
approve
tonight,
but
that's
why
those
sites
are
down
there
in
particular,
and
the
only
other
thing
I
could
say
is,
as
director
foo
had
just
mentioned
it,
it
might
be
easier.
A
A
D
I
will
bring
us
to
the
website
because
that's
this
is
the
place
that
we
would
like
for
council
and
for
the
public
to
visit.
We
do
have
a
lot
of
different
materials
that
we're
working
with
all
at
once
and-
and
this
is
a
much
more
interactive
way
to
discuss
our
opportunities
going
forward.
We
we
have
a
survey
that
I'd
like
to
bring
everybody's
attention
to.
This
survey
is
separate
from
the
sites
that
we're
talking
about,
and
I
just
want
to
bring
everybody's
attention
to
our
deadline
of
august
19th.
D
D
What
we
also
have
for
everyone's
viewing
is
the
about
available
housing
site
survey
results,
so
this
is
new
just
as
of
today,
and
we
would
thoroughly
encourage
council
members
to
take
a
look
at
what
the
public
is
saying
about
these
sites.
So
far,
we'll
be
sure
to
include
this,
as
it
was
just
produced
today,
with
your.
D
Next,
council
packet,
so
within
our
balancing
act
map,
we
now
have
a
video
that
can
help
people
understand
how
to
use
the
map
and
how
to
use
it
in
relationship
with
the
survey
opportunities
that
we
that
we
just
saw
so,
whether
whether
as
a
member
of
the
public,
you
learn
better
with
being
able
to
see
a
map
or
being
able
to
read
a
list.
We
make
both
of
those
available
to
you
in
ways
that
you
can
communicate
back
to
us.
D
D
So
what
we're
bringing
to
council
today
is
an
opportunity
to
look
at
the
list
that
we
have
and
there
is
opportunity
to
remove
sites
if,
if
you
so
desire-
and
we
have
tier
two
sites
to
be
additive,
if
you
choose
to
remove
a
site
that
is
in
excess,
that
would
put
us
below
the
desired
arena.
We
have
pipeline
projects
that
equal
3545
homes.
There
may
be
a
few
of
these
pipeline
projects
that
might
not
quite
reach
that
definition
that
hcd
is
looking
for.
So
in
our
next
iteration.
D
D
D
So,
within
each
of
our
areas,
you
can
see
the
tier
1
tier,
2
and
pipeline
projects
entirely
within
those
areas,
and
these
numbers
relate
directly
to
the
sites
list
that
we
have,
but
this
evening,
because
there
was
a
desire
to
go
from
from
west.
Excuse
me
from
east
to
west.
That's
how
we've
imagined
our
order
of
discussion
might
be.
D
A
Yeah
thanks
sandy,
so
so
let
me
let
me
try
to
do
this
and
I
apologize
for
my
focus.
I
actually
have
a
different
monitor
on
the
dies.
I
I
think,
maybe
for
the
purposes
of
clarity
it
might
help
if
I
were
to
share
a
document
and-
and
so
let
me
see
if
I
can
do-
that,
it
comes
from
attachment
c,
which
I
think
might
have
had
some
some
issues
with
loading.
A
A
Oh,
your
number
fingers
right
now:
okay,
okay,
I
I
think
I
think
that's
basically
a
yes,
and
so
maybe
I
mean
without
putting
you
know,
kind
of
a
repetitive
point
on
it.
I
mean
if
we
do
end
up
going
to
another
evening
here,
continuing
it,
it
would
probably
be
a
useful
reference
for
everyone,
but
but
andy
it
seems
like
what
you're
saying
is
that
essentially
we're
going
from
the
eastern
side
over
to
the
western
side
on
your
list
here?
So
so,
why
don't?
A
Oh
gosh,
let's
see,
okay,
that's
a
little
bit
more
challenging
there
stop
sharing
there.
We
go
okay,
so
so
andy,
why
don't
we
bring
it
back
to
you
at
this
time
and
have
you
start
going
through
the
site
selection
discussion
process,
as
you
had
originally
envisioned
it
with
the
advisement?
I
I
think
maybe
you
know
just
depending
upon
how
far
we
get
this
evening.
A
A
I
was
planning,
so
I
was
planning
on
taking
public
comment
and
and
that's
one
reason
why
I
think
it
would
be
kind
of
nice
to
get
more
of
a
consolidated
presentation
right
as
to
you
know
the
various
sites.
I
I
was.
I
guess
I
I
I
don't
want
to
put
any
kind
of
a
fine
or
blunt
point
on
it,
but
I
I
guess
it
would
be
nice
to
have
kind
of
an
overarching
sense
of
where
we're
at
right
in
this
discussion
process.
A
So
to
vice
mayor
chow's
original
point.
You
know
if
we
had
a
slide
deck
with
a
presentation
that
we
could.
You
know
basically
orient
people
with,
not
just
with
the
background
coming
at
this
point,
but
what's
also
being
presented
us
this
evening.
Even
if
we're
in
an
effective
shorthand
as
to
the
longer
discussion,
let's
say
the
longer
discussion
takes
us
somewhere
in
the
order
of
five
to
six
hours.
A
You
know,
including
this
this
evening
and
a
subsequent
evening
at
least
the
the
public
could
be
oriented
with
regard
to
what
the
focus
of
the
overarching
topic
is,
but
it
does
sound
like
what's
going
to
happen
at
this
point.
Is
we're
going
to
kind
of
go
through
the
site
selection
on
a
essentially
geographic
basis
from
the
east
to
the
west?
A
A
D
And,
and
just
to
be
clear,
I
don't
want
to
provide
something,
that's
unnecessary
because
it
is
in
your
staff
report.
Do
you
want
us
to
talk
about
how
we
came
upon
these
sites
through
the
planning
commission
and
the
guidance
that
they
gave
us
and
how
we
first
began
with
the
hcd
guidance
of
looking
at
all
sites
between
one
half
acre
and
10
acres.
D
All
of
all
of
those
property
owners
were
mailed.
A
letter
received
a
letter
that
suggested
that
they,
their
property
may
be
a
candidate
for
the
housing
element,
opportunity
sites
list
and,
and
we
provided
with
them
a
link
that
they
could
then
sign
on
to
show
that
they
have
property
owner
interest.
So
that
was
one
factor
that
we
took
into
consideration,
because
we
understand
that
hcd.
D
Their
analysis
shows
that
for
a
site,
less
than
a
half
acre,
which
I
can
say
that
cupertino
was
successful
in
in
developing
affordable
housing,
specifically
just
under
half
acre
in
this
last
round.
So
so
that
gives
us
a
little
a
little
bit
of
an
argument
to
say
back
to
hcd
that
if
we
find
a
site,
that's
less
than
a
half
acre,
particularly
if
there
is
property
owner
interest
that
that
we
could.
We
could
give
that
example
that
it
is
possible
in
cupertino.
It
is
supported
and
it
could
be
done.
D
So
there
are
numerous
variables
similar
to
that.
But
these
are
the
primary
ones
the
size,
whether
or
not
there's
property
owner
interest.
Whether
or
not
the
zoning
can
allow
the
capacity,
and
if
not,
is
there
a
willingness?
Is
there
political
will
for
for
that
zoning
density
height
to
be
altered
for
this
next
cycle
and
without
getting
into
the
weeds
about
what?
Then?
D
That
would
look
like,
because
that
would
that
what
we're
looking
to
right
now
is
to
at
least
have
a
full
and
complete
list
of
sites
that
are
worthy
of
consideration
by
the
council,
so
that
we
can
move
forward
with
our
environmental
review,
because
that
is
the
lengthiest
piece
of
our
housing
element
update
process.
So
we
we
want
to
kick
that
off
as
quickly
as
we
can
so.
D
A
Let
me
you
did
start
off
with
a
question
there,
andy
with
regard
to
what
it
is
that
we
would
like
to.
You
know
kind
of
kick
this
off
with,
and
you
know,
if
I'm
being
oblique
or
opaque
about
what
the
kind
of
general
expectation
or
or
hope
is
I
apologize
for
that,
but
I
I
think
just
to
be
really
straightforward
about
it.
It
would
be
good
for
the
members
of
the
general
public
to
have
a
you
know.
A
Maybe
some
bullet
points
with
regard
to
the
steps
that
have
you
know
taken
us
to
this.
You
know
first
site
selection,
discussion
in
council,
as
well
as
the
overarching
types
of
impact
points
that,
for
instance,
informs
the
the
very
basic
kind
of
format
that
you
have
contemplated
here
of,
for
example,
going
from
the
east
side
of
our
city
to
the
west
side
of
the
city.
A
Then
then,
perhaps
that
would
be
the
best
stepping
off
point
if
you
will
for
us
to
be
able
to
derive
input
from
the
public,
and
so
you
know
our
our
regular
format.
Is
it's
essentially
a
matter
of
doing
that?
We
we
normally
have
a
presentation,
it
gets.
You
know
a
good
kind
of
context
to
what
we're
discussing,
and
it
just
allows
us
to.
You
know,
gather
that
feedback
in
in
an
efficient
manner,
but
I
do
see
luke
does
have
the
the
hand
up
and
luke.
A
A
Do
we
essentially
open
up
for
public
comment
at
each
of
these
time
points
when
we
go
through
the
geographic
areas
east
to
west,
or
you
know,
perhaps
perhaps
you
know
we
might
be
well
suited
and
and
and
well
served
to
kind
of,
go
back
and
create
a
presentation
and
and
and
provide
that
information
in
that
kind
of
requested
deliverable
for
for
the
sake
of
the
public,
so
so
luke.
I
I
see
director
foo.
You
also
have
your
hand
up
any
thoughts
or
comments
with
regard
to
these
perspectives.
J
Yeah,
I
can
certainly
start
and
then
have
luke
support
me
necessary.
I
I
think
we
were
attempting
a
method
that
worked
for
the
planning
commission,
but
but
I
hear
the
council
what
we
could
do.
We
could
also
we
have
few
gosh
our
plane
manager
here
tonight
as
well.
So
if
police
is
the
mayor
and
the
council,
we
could
make
an
attempt
to
put
up
the
map
and
discuss,
make
sense
of
this
and
discuss
all
the
sites.
A
A
I
you
know-
and
I
understand
that
time
is
of
the
essence
here.
We
want
to
be
able
to
have
a
good
process,
and
I
think
part
of
the
good
process
is
to
make
sure
that
the
public
has
initially
provided
the
context
as
to
where
we
are.
I
can
provide
some
of
this
context
right.
I
can
tell
you
that
we
have
the
site
selection
process.
A
There
have
been
multiple,
you
know,
visits
upon
our
our
you
know,
planning,
commission,
there
is
a
website,
that's
been,
you
know,
socialized
to
the
public.
There
is
a
deadline
of
august
19th,
but
if
we
were
to
have
it
in
a
collected
format
that
was
pre,
you
know
considered
and
could
actually
be
a
deliverable
that
the
public
looks
at.
I
think
that
would
be
not
only
consistent
with
our
general
practice,
but
also
really
beneficial
for
such
a
major
project
that
we
have
in
front
of
us
so
diane
any
any
thoughts
or
input.
On
this
point.
K
A
Think
I'm
being
reflective
of
the
sentiment
of
counsel
on
the
public.
When
I
say
it's
more
of
the
former
than
the
latter,
we
need
that
written
deliverable
in
order
to
examine
it
in
order
to
process
it
and
place
us
as
a
public
into
the
proper
position
to
start
really
going
over
this
particular
topic,
and
you
know
I'm
inclined
to
say
diane
that
even
though
we
sit
at
august
16th-
and
it
is
really
important
for
us
to
be
moving
this
forward
with
our
original
plan
being
to
you
know-
probably
continue
this
to
september
6.
A
Perhaps
it
would
be
of
good
use
in
the
ensuing
time
to
collect
that
starting
point
so
that
our
public
can
really
be.
You
know
well
informed
and
can
provide
those
initial
comments.
I
I
want
to
be
as
nice
and
polite
as
possible,
as
I
can
about
this,
but
as
to
the
second
one,
the
kind
of
more
protracted
involved
you
know
kind
of
descriptive
on
the
fly
you
know
effort.
A
I
don't
think
that's
a
great
idea
with
regard
to
some
project
like
this,
and
so,
if,
if
you're
hearing
my
point,
I
I
think
perhaps
it
might
make
some
sense
to
provide
some
more
time
now.
I'm
only
one
out
of
five
vice
mayor
chao
has
a
hand
raised.
Council
member
way
has
a
hand
raised
actually
before
vice
mayor
chao,
and
so
I
you
know
I'd
love
to
hear
from
my
colleagues
on
the
diocese
as
well.
A
K
From
sure
it
sounds
like
the
next
step
is
for
the
council,
the
rest
of
the
council
to
weigh
in
perhaps
briefly
on,
if
they're,
in
concurrence
with
you
mayor
that
they
would
like
a
written
deliverable
prior
to
a
discussion
of
the
sites.
And
if
that's
the
case,
then
maybe
we
could
have
some
discussion
regarding
what
that
looks
like.
K
A
H
Thank
you,
mayor
paul,
so
I
I
think
this
question
might
be
for
chris
and
also
for
the
mayor.
I
of
the
process.
Today
we
are
here
and
I've
read
the
packages
back
and
forth
and
since
we've
got
the
package,
we
know
we're
going
to
review
the
housing
sites
and
I
understand
the
desire
to
inform
the
public
of
the
process
that
lead
to
today's
housing
sites.
H
H
If
today,
we
already
have
on
our
agenda
to
discuss
the
housing
sites,
if
we
open
up
to
public
comment
and
go
through
the
housing
sites
without
making
you
know,
the
council
can
ask
questions,
clarification
and
then
september
we're
going
to
come
back
with
another
meeting
on
the
housing
site
with
a
you
know,
presentation
of
where,
where
it
comes
from
here
and
open
up,
another
public
comment:
would
that
be
a
acceptable
legal
procedure
that
we
can
open
up?
The
public
comment
twice
because
we
have
two
different
agenda
items
because.
A
G
I
C
First,
this
is
the
map
sent
by
council
member
way.
I
think
we
have
seen
that,
but
we
are
hoping
that
there
will
be
numbers
for
each
of
these
sites.
That
will
be
really
helpful
next
time
and
then
I
actually,
I
do
think
the
background
information
is
important
for
a
lot
of
public
members
who
don't
attend
other
commissions.
However,
we
are
over
here,
there
are
public
comm.
There
are
community
members
who
are
waiting
to
make
comments.
I
think
we
should
still
go
through
the
sites
and
then
receive
public
comments
and
provide
our
input.
C
Then
in
september
6,
when
it
comes
back,
I
hope
that
there
will
be
background
information
like
most
every
other
project
that
we
have.
For
example,
you
can
look
at
2014
housing
element
or
any
other
project.
A
presentation
would
start
with.
Here
are
all
the
meetings
we've
had
so
far,
and
then
here
is
where
we
are
in
the
timeline
and
then
here
is
then
then
you
have
past
housing,
al
important
performance
and
what
we
need
to
provide
in
this
housing
element,
and
then
usually,
this
presentation
would
end
with
here.
C
Are
the
future
council
meetings
on
this
item?
So
that's
just
on.
I
think
that
has
been
done
for
almost
every
project
so
but
I
think
that's
not
let
that
stop
us.
We
can
always
improve
next
time.
That's
I
hope
we
continue
with
the
presentation
from
the
consultant
in
the
format
day
in
region.
That's
fine.
A
I
call
on
you
next
I'll
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen
to
indicate
that
let
me
see
if
I
can
it
looks
like
my
screen
is
actually
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
showing
this
up
how's
that
as
the
are
you
seeing
a
map
with
numbers
on
it
here,
so
so
this
might
not
be
accurate
right.
So
this
is
one
of
the
council
members.
I
A
Think
numbering
on
an
ipad
from
the
from
the
dyess,
but
I
think
this
this
might
be
a
good.
You
know
reference
point.
For
example,
a
good
deliverable
to
you
know
help
people
kind
of
understand
where
they
are
and
have
clarity
in
the
discussion.
So
councilmember
moore
did
you
want
to
provide
commentary
at
this
time?
You
had
your
hand
raised
previously.
F
Yes,
so
some
of
the
things
that
I'm
interested
in
seeing
would
be
the
redlined
august
plan,
as
opposed
to
having
the
the
sites
just
removed
and
dropped
off.
Of
of
this,
I
had
actually
quite
a
few
questions.
I
can
pull
up
an
email
that
I
sent
out,
which
might
be
beneficial
okay,
so
my
questions
were
essentially
I
look.
F
I
was
looking
at
the
june
24th
2022
table
compared
it
with
the
august
9
22
table,
and
I
was
wanted
explanations
of,
for
instance,
why
there
was
the
removal
of
1a
and
1b
removal
of
3a,
and
I
can
provide
this
in
in
email
form.
Why
were
8a
and
8d
move
to
tier
2?
Why
remove
9b?
Why
remove
11b
and
there?
Why
were,
however,
the
city
crossroads?
Now
have
so
many
more
properties
on
tier
2
than
the
june
24th
version?
F
F
So
they,
the
planning
commission,
didn't
have
an
opportunity
to
even
consider
that
for
balancing,
which
is
significant,
because
at
the
minimum
dwelling
units
breaker
of
30,
as
I
stated
earlier,
you
get
to
300,
which
is
it's
significant,
and
I
think
that
that
warrants
a
good
bit
of
discussion
and
also.
I
was
con
concerned
curious.
Why
heart
of
the
city
crossroads
in
central?
Had
no
sites
selected,
and
I
think
part
of
that
is
because
they
didn't
have
the
opportunity
to
do
it
and.
A
F
F
When
I
and
then
for
a
policy
looking
at
that
10-acre
site
I've
been
referencing,
would
we
be
bound
by
having
that
density
across
the
entire
10
acres?
Where
is
our
flexibility
with
that?
Can
we
drop
it
below
the
30
dwelling
units
per
acre?
So
if
someone
could
provide
some
background
about
about
the
density
and
then
there
it
seemed
like
there
was
a
sweet
spot
for
the
developers.
F
A
B
B
A
Okay,
so
andy
would
be
available
on
wednesday
instead
of
tuesday.
Of
that
week
is
what
you're
saying
so
that's
correct.
I
think
we
can
talk
about
it
in
the
city,
clerk's
office
and
city
attorney's
office
as
to
how
best
to
properly
notice
that,
but
duly
noted,
I
know
that
councilmember
way
might
have
an
a
conflict
on
wednesdays.
A
C
A
A
So
so
it's
it's
something
to
you
know
potentially
consider,
but
it
seems
like
we
have.
You
know,
hopefully,
in
a
piecemeal
fashion.
You
know
various
bits
and
pieces
of
information
that
brings
us
here
today.
For
the
council,
you
have
a
map,
that's
enumerated
with
the
you
know
original.
You
know,
numbering
system,
you
you've
obviously
had
multiple
steps
going
through
the
planning
commission.
You
know,
jumping
from
you
know
one
step
to
another
step.
Maybe
some
of
the
enumeration
could
have
been.
A
You
know
tracked
along
the
way,
but
you
know
hopefully
those
materials
in
our
future
noticed
agenda.
If
we
don't
finish
this
all
this
evening,
we'll
go
ahead
and
take
into
account
some
of
those
sentiments.
Vice
mayor
child
calling
you
after
councilmember
willie
councilmember
willie.
Thank
you
for
waiting
patiently
and
what
are
your
comments
at
this
time?.
L
So,
thank
you
mayor
a
few
general
comments
and
then
the
more
specific
one.
So
I
fully
agree
with
you
know
the
previous
comments
about
the
powerpoint
would
really
have
helped
us
the
dialogue.
We
don't
really
are
able
to
take
notes
and
and
things
of
that
nature
and
if
we
have
trouble
the
residents
watching
are
going
to
have.
You
know,
trouble
within
that.
L
How
did
we
get
to
this
point
in
time?
Well,
I
really
think
we
need
a
road
map
from
the
beginning
that
we
and
the
community
can
be
looking
at
constantly
seeing
what's
transpired.
Where
are
we
at
what
still
needs?
We
only
need
to
look
at
it
for
10
seconds,
but
I
think
it
each
time
gets
us
back
up
to
where
we
really
are
understanding.
L
L
L
L
There
have
been
the
regular
meetings
where
residents
were
able
to
talk.
I
clearly
want
to
know
how
many
residents,
when
we
draw
that
line
and
say
how
many
residents
have
been
involved
up
to
this
point
in
time
and,
unfortunately,
I
think
we're
going
to
find
it's
not
many
and
so
an
outgrowth
of
that
is
going
to
be.
L
L
Maybe
it's
an
answer
that
was
already
applied
to
a
different
quest,
a
question
previously
answered,
or
maybe
it's
one
where
we
sit
there
and
say
we're
just
not
gonna
review
those,
but
every
resident
question
I
believe,
needs
to
be
given
a
acknowledgement,
a
number-
and
hopefully
answers
applied
to
those
so
that
when
we
then
have
to
make
this
decision
which
sites
what
density
we
know
to
what
degree
did
the
community
get
involved
and
what
feedback
did
they
give
us?
Okay?
This
is
where
we're
at
tonight.
Housing
sites
identification.
L
One
last
comment,
and
that
would
be
probably
there's
not
going
to
be
any
photographs
of
these
sites.
But
to
me,
visuals
are
a
huge
thing
for
both
us
and
the
community
bingo
here's
a
picture
of
a
two
acre
site.
This
would
be
the
expected
density.
This
is
the
adjacent
parcels
and,
what's
on
it,
that
picture
to
me
is:
is
the
community?
Doesn't
understand
where
all
these
sites
are,
let
alone
the
impact.
L
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
council
councilmember,
willie
and
yeah.
It's
it's
a
good
wish
list
of
of
organizational.
You
know
items
that
you're
describing
I
I
would
say
you
know
stipulated
we
have
the
staff
report.
It's
seven
page
staff
report.
It's
a
good
staff
report.
I
I
think,
without
without
being
too
simplistic
about
this,
I
think
it's
really
clear
that
we
needed
to
have
a
presentation
that
was
basically
based
upon
the
skeleton
staff
report.
Now,
what
do
we
do
right
now?
A
I
mean
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
wait
until
you
know
we.
We
have
that.
Basically,
it
sounds
like
let's,
let's
just
you
know,
go
into
this
under
the
you
know,
assumption
that
that
you
know
information
material
has
been
absorbed,
but
we,
I
don't
think
we
can
really
make
that
assumption.
As
to
the
you
know
entirely
the
members
of
the
general
public
that
will
be
referencing
this
meeting.
You
know,
for
instance,
and
if
you
look
at
our
standard
practice,
there's
you.
A
Always
a
presentation
for
these
agenda
items
that
has
been
you
know
carefully
considered
and
for
something
like
this.
Certainly
on
this
magnitude
we
should
have
had
a
slide
deck
as
to
you
know
pointing
out
you
know.
Particular
you
know
items
that
you
know
could
be
of
of
a
specific
note,
and
so
the
thought
that
occurs
to
me
is:
let's
try
to
have
that
prepared.
You
know
this
continues,
I'm
not
sure
if
it
continues
to
a
date.
A
You
know
properly
considered
by
the
end
of
this
month.
At
least
you
know
an
additional
time
before
we
go
into
september.
So
so
that
being
the
case,
you
know
I'll
make
reference
to
that
staff
report.
It
does
you
know,
provide
that
that
context,
you
know,
and
so
we'll
take
the
consolidated
whole
of
the
of
the
comments
from
our
council
vice
mayor
chad.
I
do
see
that
your
hand
is
raised.
Councilman
moore,
I
do
see
your
hand
is
raised
as
well.
Diane
I
see
your
hand
is
raised.
I'm
sure
everyone
has.
A
Okay,
vice
versa:
okay,
you're
out
of
order,
let's
go
to
acting
city
manager,
thompson
first,
because
I
I
agree
that
that
is
a
very
important
point.
That's
the
point
that
I
would
like
our
acting
city
manager
to
speak
on,
because
we
obviously
need
that
kind
of
coordination.
In
order
to
make
that
happen,
diane.
A
K
E
K
A
A
A
Okay,
so
item
number
24
doesn't
have
blue
cards
at
this
time
and
so
I'll
go
ahead
and
briefly
go
over
the
procedure
here.
You'll
have
three
minutes
to
be
heard
on
this
item
and
please
have
your
hand
raised
and
zoomed
by
the
time.
The
first
speaker
is
speaking.
If
you
do,
then
you
will
be
called
upon
to
to
speak
on
this
item.
You
also
have
the
option
of
blue
card
live
or
to
email,
city
clerk.
One
word
at
cupertino.org
during
time.
M
Hi
there,
mayor
paul
and
council
members,
I
had
a
statement
to
read
this
evening,
thinking
that
this
was
going
to
be
a
seamless
transition
from
the
planning
commission
and
joint
commission
handoff
and
over
the
last
hour
it
clearly
hasn't
been
that
I'm
I'm
really
disappointed.
I,
the
the
last
hour
has
been
a
it's
been
challenging
and
not
a
lot
has
been
done
and
it
feels
like
the
wheels
have
been
spinning.
I
I
would
say
to
councilmember
moore
thank
you
for
your
leadership
tonight
for
suggesting
a
move.
M
This
agenda
item
up
I'd
like
to
give
a
quick
shout
out
to
luke
conley
senior
planner.
Earlier
this
week.
I
asked
luke
what
time
he
thought.
The
housing
element
meeting
agenda
item
would
take
place
and
he
emailed
me
tonight
proactively
after
council
moore's
suggestion
to
let
me
know
luke
you
went
way
above
and
beyond,
and
I
really
appreciate
that
the
city's
lucky
to
have
you,
I
I
I
don't
see
why
this
meeting
tonight
couldn't
have
gone
as
the
last
four
meetings
have
gone,
which
is
the
consultant
gives
a
presentation.
M
The
public
gets
their
general
comments
for
three
minutes
and
then
we
break
out
into
section
by
section
and
after
each
section,
the
residents
give
an
overview
of
their
thoughts
and
public
comment.
The
the
deadline
for
the
submission
is
july
of
or
january
of
23.
The
eir
is
going
to
take
three
to
four
to
five
months
potentially-
and
I
we're
casually
going
about
this-
and
I
there's
been
six
weeks
since
the
last
meeting
the
council
and
commission
were
part
of,
and
it
honestly
feels
like
mayor
paul.
Your
questions
are
great
today.
M
How
is
this
meeting
gonna
go?
I
don't
know
how
internally
the
logistics
works,
but
it
seems
like
a
half
hour
phone
call
with
planning
staff.
The
consultants
and
a
couple
of
members
of
council
could
solve
the
direction
and
it
seems
like
when
we
start
this
meeting
it's
the
first
time
we've
ever
looked
at
this
we've
been
looking
at
this
for
12
months
and
there's
a
lot
of
important
things.
I
want
to
say
I
think,
there's
a
lot
of
challenges
with
the
list
as
it's
presented
today
and
I'm
stuck.
M
I've
been
on
this
phone
call
since
6
45
this
evening.
Three
hours
with
three
kids
and
I'm
I
mean
I
grew
up
in
cupertino,
I'm
invested
in
the
city
and
I
know
everybody's
trying
to
do
their
best,
but
there's
got
to
be
some
leadership
here
and
you
know
emc
like
let's
get
on
the
ball.
Let's
roll
up
our
sleeves:
let's
provide
some
leadership,
that's
what
you're
being
paid
for.
I
say
this
with
all
due
respect.
This
happens
once
every
eight
years,
and
so
it's
it's
new
and
it's
tough.
M
M
A
P
P
It's
I
will
tell
you.
This
is
probably
my
third
housing
element
since
2002
in
the
city,
and
this
has
been
a
wild
ride.
I
have
never
gone
through
a
house,
a
housing
element
like
this.
I
hope
in
eight
years.
We
don't
have
anything
like
this
again.
My
opinion
of
hcd's
handling
of
this
entire
housing
element
debacle
across
the
state
with
all
482
cities
and
the
counties
is
getting
dimmer
and
dimmer
and
dimmer
we.
Yes,
we
have.
P
We
are
being
pressed
with
forces
that
we
have
never
encountered
before.
There
is
so
much
of
this
that
is
being
pushed
at
the
state
level
and
I
feel,
like
the
cities,
are
being
used,
I'm
willing
to
put
my
time
in.
For
my
city,
this
is
not
the
first
time
we've
done
this.
We
we're
here
hours,
you
know
we
we
we
go
through
the
meetings.
I
appreciate
everything:
the
staff,
the
consultants,
the
city
council,
members
planning,
commission,
the
public
has
gone
through.
P
You
do
things
like
this
to
defend
your
city,
I
feel,
like
my
city,
is
under
assault
and
if
anyone
is
not
aware,
hcd
just
nailed
san
francisco
for
their
housing
element
about
five
days
ago.
Hcd
is
continually
changing
the
rules
of
the
game.
They
are
persecuting
san
francisco,
who
is
trying
to
do
their
housing
element
and
they're,
saying
now
that
they
are
going
to
investigate
the
entire
city's
housing
element
and
why
the
city
of
san
francisco
is
not
providing
housing.
P
P
I
believe,
what's
happening
is
that
hcd
is
is,
does
not
want
to
certify
cities.
This
is
culver
city,
huntington,
beach
and
santa
monica
as
examples
they
fail
to
certify
once
the
city's
submitted,
and
then
they
say,
oh
we'll,
certify
you.
If
you
put
in
an
affordable
housing
overlay
which
requires
massive
rezoning
and
it's
it-
you
can't,
the
public
has
no
input
and
there's
no
parking.
I
don't
want
to
go
there.
I
don't
want
to
play
this
game
with
hcd
anymore
15..
Q
We've
been
doing
in
the
planning
and
housing
commissions
do
an
overview,
a
comment
and
then
one
by
one
go
through
it's
tedious,
but
you
get
the
content
and
information
from
the
public
anyway,
and
that
said
specifically,
I'm
looking
at
the
816
2022
tier
1
tier
2
projects
map
and
I'm
looking
at
the
north
valco,
where
the
hotel
and
cupertino
village
and
the
map
still
has
the
hotel
shown
as
a
tier
one.
And
yet
the
list
in
the
recommended
sites
does
not.
Q
Q
Q
Why
30?
Why
does
it
have
to
be
30,
explain
to
us
and
if
it
doesn't
fit,
then,
let's
just
add
a
few
more
sites,
but
don't
force
something
that
doesn't
make
sense.
I
see
stilling
gateway
and
also
south
vienza
has
over
400
units
and
I'm
afraid
that
if
you
do
setbacks
and
height
restrictions,
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
fit
those
units.
So
are
they
really
realistic?
Q
N
So
he
has
knowledge,
that's
helpful,
but
it
also
is
starting
to
make
me
I
just
anyway
sorry
scott,
I
mean
I
I've
said
in
meetings
before
that.
I
agree
with
what
he
says
this
time.
I
agree
with
most
of
it,
but
not
all
of
it,
and-
and
I
just
have
that
observation
and
scott
can
correct
me
if
you'd
like
to
non-resident
development,
maybe
even
a
lobbyist
for
all.
I
know
I
don't
know
sorry
scott.
So,
yes,
the
planning
commission
chose
to
go
east
to
west.
That
was
actually
the
chair's
decision
to
do
that.
N
N
To
begin
with,
I
have
gone
through
and
tried
to
compare
it's
so
very
frustrating
that
the
inventory
segmentary
lists
do
not
match
each
other,
the
red
line
that
commissioner
moore
would
like
to
have
absolutely
and
as
detailed
a
red
line
as
you
can.
We
took
this
off
or
we
took
this
out
of
this,
but
we
put
it
here
because
there
was
a
request
and
somebody
can
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
planning
commission
wanted
and
staff
decided
that
p8.
N
The
original
p8
which
is
pipeline
8
was
not
really
a
pipeline
project,
so
they
were
going
to
move
it
to
be
item
6e
because
it's
in
the
jolly
man
neighborhood.
Well,
you
go
to
see
if
that
happened,
and
there
is
no
60
or
it
it's
everything's.
Jumbled
up
and
things
are
plugged
in
and
when
they
took
that
pa
out,
I
see
now
another
p8,
it's
actually
the
wrong
address,
I
believe.
N
A
I
Hi,
my
name
is
gory
choffla,
I'm
currently
a
rising
junior
at
cupertino,
high
school,
and
the
very
first
thing
I
want
to
talk
about
is
that
creating
affordable
housing
will
only
lead
to
the
prospering
of
our
community
in
cupertino,
it's
important
to
have
a
fair
reflection
of
this
community
in
the
analysis
of
housing
needs,
and
we
must
endeavor
to
include
as
many
people
in
our
city
as
possible.
In
order
to
better
inform
the
policies
and
programs,
the
council
will
need
to
come
up
with
to
remedy
housing
needs.
I
This
means
that
we
must
establish
a
thorough
criteria
for
the
designation
and
development
of
these
new
houses
and
ensure
that
the
already
established
fifteen
percent
of
new
housing
units
are
set
aside
for
lower
income
families.
I'm
also
the
president
of
the
cupertino
high
school
anti-racism
task
force,
the
historic
redlining
and
discrimination
and
housing
policy
is
well
documented
and
cupertino
is
not
an
exception.
This
housing
element
is
our
opportunity
to
enact
anti-racist
policy
that
gives
minority
populations
the
housing
opportunities
they
have
historically
been
denied
this
time
around.
I
It
is
the
law
for
us
to
affirmatively,
further
fair
housing.
This
means
planning
for
and
facilitating
the
production
of,
substantially
more
homes
of
all
types,
including
6,
8
and
10
story,
apartment
buildings
for
low-income
renters
and
homeowners
throughout
the
city,
not
just
concentrated
in
two
or
three
pounds.
Parts
of
town,
equitable
and
affordable
housing
should
be
prioritized
around
resources
that
are
very
much
needed
for
members
of
our
community,
including
schools,
workplaces
parks,
libraries
and
more.
However,
I
have
to
implore
the
council
to
not
have
pipeline
projects
run.
The
housing
element.
I
3545
homes
are
expected
to
be
pipeline
projects
out
of
a
total
4
600
needed
homes,
that
is
about
80
percent
and,
as
we
have
seen
in
other
cities
like
san
francisco,
these
pipeline
projects
are
not
the
way
to
develop
homes.
We
have
I've
lived
here
for
most
of
my
life
and
I've
seen
all
of
these
apartment
buildings
that
you're
talking
about
the
velco
apartment,
buildings
and
apartment
buildings,
down
down
the
street
that
have
been
in
development,
apparently
for
like
most
of
my
life
and
I've
never
seen
them
come
to
fruition
as
actual
apartment
buildings.
I
I've
only
seen
the
construction,
because
there's
so
many
problems
with
the
building
permit
and
getting
the
actual
developers
to
build
the
homes.
So
I
I
am
hoping
that
the
council
will
not
ensure
these
pipeline
projects
and
will
instead
have
a
different
plan
that
will
actually
get
built
within
the
eight
years
we
have
in
this
housing
element.
I
also
want
to
strongly
encourage
the
council
to
reach
out
to
youth
when
thinking
about
the
housing
element.
We
are
the
ones
who
are
going
to
be
living
with
your
decisions
and,
alongside
members,
many
members
of
our
community.
I
We
hope
you
will
value
our
voices
and
work
to
create
safe,
equitable
and
affordable
housing.
For
all
this
is
our
students,
our
elderly
population,
our
young
adults,
our
working
class
population
and
much
more.
Your
decisions
regarding
the
housing
element
shape
so
many
futures,
and
I
implore
you
to
use
this
power
to
make
housing
an
exciting
prospect
for
our
community,
rather
than
a
daunting,
arduous
task.
Thank
you.
R
Thank
you
and
first,
I
agree
with
many
of
the
comments
before
me
by
the
public
and
and
council
members,
and
thank
you,
mr
mayor
and
council
and
staff,
for
the
opportunity
to
speak
tonight
and
for
the
work
that
you
do.
My
family
are
long-time
owners
in
cupertino
and
our
property
on
linda
vista
drive
is
included
in
the
current
recommended
site.
Inventory
change
is
inevitable
and
we
know
that,
but
we
want
to
be
part
of
the
solution
in
a
rational
way.
R
R
R
R
We
respectfully
and
formally
ask
that
you
address
this
and
return
our
property
to
a
20
dwelling
unit
per
acre
density,
and
I
sincerely
hope
that,
what's
before
you
is
the
only
option
you
have
that
you
don't
have
the
opportunity
to
change
the
densities
that
been
provided
to
you.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
time.
S
Everyone
for
doing
the
best
on
this
important
topic,
not
sure
if
it
is
the
perfect
time
to
bring
my
comment
up,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
I
get
it
in
so
we,
my
wife
and
I
I
would
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
plead
our
case
and
express
deep
interest
and
commitment
to
build
a
single-family
residence
on
the
vacant
land
for
our
family
to
move
in
at
two
one:
six:
seven:
zero
low
meter
avenue
three
five:
seven
one:
eight
zero
zero
five.
This
is
located
at
the
intersection
of
lomita
and
imperial.
S
It
is
a
vacant
clan
with
approximately
5
800
square
feet
square
footage
and
is
currently
zoned
as
ml.
It
is
in
the
bubb
road
special
area
and
from
understanding
the
only
impediment
to
us
building
a
home
here
is
the
zoning.
We
would
like
to
plead
some
of
our
observations
with
regards
to
this
property.
Well,
the
property
is
zoned
as
ml.
It
is
surrounded
by
a
number
of
residential
buildings.
We
have
town
hall
directly
opposite
to
the
land,
which
is
a
corner
lot.
S
S
There
are
at
least
a
couple
of
properties
right
next
or
very
close
to
the
property
that
are
residences
on
ml
zoning
and,
in
some
cases,
on
a
much
smaller
lot
with
the
land
currently
being
vacant
land.
There
is
no
fear
of
any
kind
of
displacement
on
this
property.
The
property
is
located
very
conveniently
close
to
the
top
rated
schools.
I
have
two
kids
and
it
would
be
ideal
if
we
are
able
to
move
in
here
into
cupertino
to
attend
these
schools.
S
We've
been
constantly
following
the
housing
element,
update
the
joint
planning,
commission
and
housing
commission
meetings.
We
noticed
discussions
where
even
upzoning
of
certain
areas
of
burb
road
special
area
was
being
discussed
if
the
desired
interest
from
the
owners
is
seen.
We
would
like
to
take
this
opportunity
to
express
great
interest
and
commitment
to
build
a
single
family
home
and
move
in
there
if
you
are
permitted
to
do
so.
S
We
would
love
to
attend
the
highly
rated
cupertino
school
we
did
reach
out
to
the
planning
commission,
we
were
told
our
property
is
smaller
than
the
state,
housing
and
community
development
fpd
minimum
lot
size
of
0.5
acres.
So
really
look
forward
to
you
know
we.
We
really
hope
we'll
consider
our
request
to
build
a
single
family
home
here
on
this
vacant
plan
and
guide
us
on
how
to
proceed
further.
Thanks
for
you.
A
Thank
you
very
much
vijay
and
let's
go
ahead
and
bring
this
back
up
to
dice,
quick
time
check
at
10
o'clock.
Let's
go
ahead
and
conduct
a
round
of
commentary
from
council
before
we
go
ahead
and
continue
this
item
and
diane.
I
think
you
had
mentioned
going
and
pulling
council
separately,
but
I'd
be
happy
to
try
to
you
know,
identify
some
some
available
dates.
A
You
know
by
people
if
they
wanted
to
share
when
they're
available
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks,
we're
on
august
16th
and
so
the
end
of
the
month
will
be
two
weeks
in
a
day
from
now.
So
we
would
have.
I
guess,
a
couple
of
tuesdays
potentially
to
you
know.
Try
to
try
to
you
know,
get
this
revisited
upon
our
council
in
a
special
meeting.
So
kitty
you
have
a
council
member,
you
have
your
hand
raised.
Did
you
want
to
start
us
off
with
some
follow-on
comments
from
the
public?
A
If
not,
I
I
would
be
happy
to
to
do
so.
Okay,
I'll
go
ahead.
So
I'll
make
this
very
brief.
I
actually
think
that
this
is
a
fairly.
You
know
useful
format
we
we
have
had
some,
albeit
a
bit
disjointed
information
presented,
but
I
think
we
have
a
flavor
of
the
sentiments
coming
from
the
public
at
this
point.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
hit
the
reset
and
get
the
in
a
special
meeting
the
next
couple
weeks
in
a
day,
the
ability
to
start
this
off.
A
A
You
know:
rationale
there,
it's
just
a
little
bit
more
logically
cohesive
with
regard
to
the
the
other
items
that
we've
heard,
numbering
and
being
able
to
keep
consistency
and
tracking
the
discussion.
Let's
just
assume
you
know,
let's
give
everyone
the
the
benefit
of
doubt
that
they've
been
following.
K
A
F
A
clear
understanding
or
I
don't
have
a
clear
understanding
about
how
the
minimum
density
in
this
in
these
tables
was
selected.
So
I
and
I
am
concerned
for
the
member
of
the
public
who
who
has
the
the
30
dwelling
units
per
acre
and
I'm
seeing
that
number
around
in
a
few
areas,
and
I
do
have
the
vague
recollection
of
of
some
comments
about
what
developers
are
looking
for.
What
density
really
is
workable,
that
pencils
out
for
them?
And
I'd
like
to
have
that
information
as
well.
A
C
Yeah,
I
agree
that
we
should
have
some
rationale
of
how
the
density
is
determined
and
then
also
with
existing
setback
requirement
and
how
how
the
number
of
units
is
assigned
for
each
site.
But
I
do
wish
that
today
we
still
get
an
overview
and
go
through
the
sites,
so
so
that
we
don't
postpone
everything
to
the
next
meeting
on
august
30th
yeah,
I'm
available.
C
A
Okay,
understood
understood,
thank
you
very
much.
I
I
think
that
opens
up
another
strand
of
discussion
actually
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
invite
people
to
speak
to
it
as
to
whether
people
would
rather
continue
this
discussion
until
presumptively
august
30th.
It
seems
to
be
working
for
a
majority
of
us
so
far.
For
my
part,
I
I
think
I
would
rather
just
go
ahead
and
continue
it
having
the
input
provided
and
giving
staff
and
our
outside
consultant
a
chance
to
kind
of
recite
and
absorb
some
of
the
commentary.
H
Absolutely
thank
you
mayor
paul.
I
I
think
we
should
go
ahead
and
proceed,
and
so
the
staff
can
receive
comments.
I
do
have
one
comment
and
I
think
a
couple
of
the
attendees
have
mentioned
that
south
san
francisco's
housing
element
was
rejected
and
we
did
receive
a
comment
from
a
arrest
in
two.
So
I
am
worried
about
our
you
know.
Pipeline
project.
For
example,
the
hamptons
was
approved
2016
with
a
10-year
entitlement.
It's
been
six
years,
so
that's
600
units.
Can
we
get
a
letter
from
hamptons?
H
Are
they
really
going
to
do
it
in
the
next
four
years?
Because
the
impediment
would
end
in
four
years
and
they'll
call
the
rice,
their
three-year
entitlement
that
started
may
2020
because
of
the
friends
of
pedophilia
lawsuit?
That's
was
settled
not
was
declared
in
may
2020,
so
they
have
three
years
entitlement
that
would
expire
may
2023,
which
is
next
year
so
are.
Are
they
really
going
to
go
forward
to
it?
H
So
what
I'm
hoping
is
our
next
round
of
housing
elements
site
on
the
30th,
which
I'm
available,
that
we
have
more
properties
on
tier
2
that
we
can
maybe
as
backup
we
can
really.
The
consultant
can
work
on
it
and
then
give
us
some
suggestions,
so
we
can
have
some
type.
You
know
backup
units
that
if
one
or
two
of
these
pipeline
projects
don't
go
through,
that
would
be
my
comment.
Okay,.
H
A
So
you,
basically
you
want
to
use
the
rest
of
our
time
tonight,
basically
to
focus.
I
I
understand
that
okay,
great
councilmember,
moore
your
hand,
is
raised
again.
Let
me
visit
councilmember
willie
john.
Did
you
want
to
speak
at
this
time
with
regard
to
some
follow-on
comments
and
there's
a
pending
question
as
to
whether
we
utilize
the
rest
of
time
between
now
and
midnight
to
you
know,
stay
on
this
item.
L
L
Who
would
sounds
to
me
would
love
to
be
included
in
a
meeting
about
housing
sites
and
stuff.
So
I
I
think
we
need
more
resident
engagement,
somebody
who's
dedicated
to
it
who's
not
being
time
shared
so
that
we
raise
the
bar
on
on
getting
our
community's
input
and
the
recording
all
resident
comments
concerns.
L
Everyone
gets
a
number
whether
or
not
something
truly
gets
answered,
but
I
think
every
resident
should
not
have
to
come
to
meeting
after
meeting
like
tonight.
The
one
resident
talked
about
20
units
versus
30
units.
It
should
be
recorded,
addressed
and
each
resident
given
a
number,
and
he
can
go
back
and
look
at
it
and
it
may
say
we're
not
going
to
look
at
it,
the
hamptons
yeah.
You
know,
I
think,
we've
all
been
you
know
wishing
it
was
going
to
happen.
Not
you
know.
Six
years
of
the
10
years
is
running
out.
L
L
Those
types
of
things
same
thing
with
valco
I
mean
let
them
know
that
we
would
like
to
see
those
housing
units
get
built
and
we're
here
to
work
with
them,
but
they
gotta
start
building
those
housing
units
and
so
I'll
leave
it
with
that.
That's
my
my
main
focus
and
then
whatever
we
choose
to
do
tonight
and
the
30th
would
work
for
me
I'll
make
it
a
priority.
So,
okay.
A
A
F
Yes,
so
these
are
a
couple
questions
for
for
chris
with
regarding
the
the
pipeline
projects.
What
direction
or
information
have
do
you
have
from
hcd
regarding
the
inclusion
of
pipeline
projects
for
one
and
two
to
the
issue
of
looking
at
the
sites
that
we
have
here?
I
would
I
personally
don't
don't
want
to
look
at
the
list
unless
we
are
going
to
look
at
a
combined
list
of
what
the
planning
commission
had
their
recommended
site
lists
from
june
24th.
F
A
G
Yeah
so
I
mean
so
I
mean
we,
we
have
we've
known
all,
along
from
hcd's
guidance
that
we're
going
to
need
to
establish
that
the
pipeline
units
can
be
built
within
the
sixth
cycle
planning
period,
and
so
there
you
know
you
have
to.
You
know,
be
able
to
demonstrate
that
through
evidence
and-
and
you
know
in
and
through
policies
that
support
the
the
development
of
those
pipeline
units,
and
so
so
we
we've
we've
definitely
been
aware
of
that
all
along.
G
I
think
some
of
the
comment-
letters
you're
starting
to
see,
come
back,
including
the
san
francisco
letter
that
several
commenters
alluded
to
are
really
helpful
for
us,
in
the
sense
that
they
provide
a
good
road
map
for
what
we
some
of
the
options
that
we
have
available
to
us
for
for
making
sure
that
those
pipeline
units
can
be
part
of
our
inventory.
So
you
know
I
see
that
as
an
opportunity
to
to
to
make
sure
that
we
we
get
it
right.
G
Yeah,
so
that
that
that
is
what's
the
statement
is,
is:
is
it
it?
Hcd
guidance?
Is
that
I
believe
it's
that
the
units
can't
and
I'm
going
from
memory
that
the
units
can
be
built
within
the
cycle.
It's
not
obvious
that
they
will
be
built
because
the
city
doesn't
ultimately
have
control
over
that
and
what
the
message
that's
coming
from.
G
Some
of
the
comments
that
other
jurisdictions
have
received
is
is
that
you
need
to
provide
evidence
that
supports
that,
in
some
cases,
policies
that
support
that-
and
you
know
in
the
case
of
san
francisco
as
well,
these
other
jurisdictions.
It's
not
that
hcd
rejected
these
pipeline
units.
They
were
asking
for
more
information
if
they're
going
to
be
included
as
as
housing
elements
discussed
by
the
arena,
and
so
we're
certainly
aware
of
that
dynamic
and
we'll
work
towards
satisfying
those
requirements.
A
Thank
you
chris.
It's
always
it's
always
good
to
hear
your
perspective
on
on
this
and
some
cogent
analysis.
Okay,
so
so,
let's
do
this.
We,
we
do
have
some
sentiments
from
council
and
the
public
expressed.
We
stand
at
10
16
right
now.
I
I
don't
think
we're
going
to
get
appreciably
into
this
list
of
either
16
or
26.
You
know
geographic
regions,
how
about
we
go
through
some
of
the
public
commentary.
A
This
time
there
are
specific
sites
that
have
been
discussed,
and
so
maybe
what
we
can
do
is
try
to
get
some
of
these,
since
these
are
members
of
the
public
that
you
know
that
that
felt
strongly
enough
to
sit
through
the
meeting
and
express
their.
You
know,
concerns
about
you
know
specific
issues
or
particular
sites.
A
Why
don't
we
ask
our
our
staff
outside
consultant
city
attorney
to
speak
to
some
of
these
and
then
perhaps
in
the
process
of
that,
we'll
you
know
be
able
to
get
out
a
few
more
of
the
additional
concerns
that
we
can
be
following
up
with
on
august
30th
as
well.
So
it
does
look
like
august.
30Th
is
the
is
the
date
for
the
continuation
of
this
item.
A
K
A
Okay,
great
and
if
that's
amenable
to
people
at
this
time,
what
I
would
suggest
since
we
do
have
a
couple
of
consent,
calendar
items
as
well.
Perhaps
we
can
get
to
the
follow-ons
on
public
comment
and
then
also
get
to
items
12
and
17..
That's
what
I
would
suggest
at
this
time,
I'm
getting
a
skeptical
look-
and
this
is
just
my
interpretation
from
my
left-
a
hand
raised
from
vice
mayor
ciao
I'll
refer
to
my
my
zoom
indicators,
pretty
poker
faced,
but
vice
mayor
ciao.
C
G
G
C
C
And
I
think
one
member
of
the
public
asked
me
how
come
most
of
the
sites
we
consider
our
existing
commercial
sites,
though,
that
we
are
adding
residential
and
we
are
already
losing
commercial.
I
mean
retail
sites
how
about
office
sites
so
have
we
reached
out
to
current
properties?
That's
currently
zoned
only
for
office
to
consider
possibility
of
adding
residential
on
top
of
office.
G
Yeah,
so
you
know
so
I'll,
just
defer
to
planning
staff
sort
of
you
know
on
the
details
of
the
outreach.
That's
been
done
as
well
as
as
some
of
the
dynamics,
I
think
you
know
my
understanding
not
being
a
planning
professional
is
that
a
lot
of
that
dynamic
is
just
being
driven
by
economic
factors
as
far
as
as.
C
Retail
yeah,
I
understand
property
owners
might
have
different
economic
interests,
but
then
we
should
do
our
part
to
reach
out
and
ask.
Are
you
interested
in
building
housing
still
right?
That's
my
intent,
and
so
that's
last
of
my
question.
But
let
me
first
ask
the
make
my
comment
about
the
scheduling.
Then
maybe
the
planning
staff
can
answer
my
last
question
sure.
So
I
think
if
we
don't
go
through
the
site,
I'm
concerned,
one
meeting
is
not
sufficient
to
finish.
C
A
K
A
And
I
think
that
chris
would
refer
that
over
to
community
development
department
to
kind
of
speak
to
you
know
some
of
their
some
of
their
sentiments
there
so
staff.
If
anyone
wants
to
speak
to
that
housing
essentially
over
office,
you
know
our
city
attorney
had
mentioned
economic
factors.
You
know,
please
feel
free
to
to
speak
to
it.
If
you
wanted
to
raise
your
hand
luke,
I
see
her
your
microphone's
on.
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
that.
B
Yes,
thank
you
mayor.
I
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
yeah.
The
outreach
that
was
done
to
solicit
property
interest
did
not
focus
just
on
commercial
properties.
We
we
started
literally
with
every
property
that
fit
the
hcd
criteria,
starting
with
the
half
acre
to
10
acre
range,
and
I
think
that
was
reflected
in
our
first
meetings
with
the
planning
commission,
where
we
had
almost
400
potential
properties.
So
I
think
it's
just
the
way
the
list
played
out
and
the
people
who
expressed
owner
interest.
B
A
Okay,
yeah,
I
I
see
councilmember
moore,
you
have
your
hand
raised.
Did
you
want
to
follow
on?
I
actually
did
have
a
question
that
I
wanted
to
ask
and
follow
on
to
some
of
the
public
comments.
So
a
number
of
people
spoke
to
a
particular
site
at
luna
vista,
and
you
know
that
was
by
the
owner,
which
is
you
know,
good
to
hear
that
participation
and
the
owner.
You
know
himself
was
saying
that
hey,
I
don't
really
want
30
dwelling
units
per
acre.
A
It
would
be
much
more
appropriate
for
my
site
to
have
20..
So
how
are
we
dealing
with
that?
I
guess
there's
a
collateral
question
there
as
to
how
these
particular
minimum
dwelling
units
per
acre
densities
were
assigned
and
have
been
assigned
over
time
over
the
course
of
this
project.
Pew
you
have
your
hand
up.
Welcome.
Did
you
want
to
speak
to
this
question.
T
Yes,
I
did
good
evening,
mr
mayor
and
council.
Thank
you
very
much
with
regard
to
the
site
of
linda
vista
staff
had
originally,
I
believe,
gone
in
with
the
lower
density.
However,
the
planning
commission
had
seen
fit
to
consider
the
site
on
the
west
side
of
popertino
and,
as
a
result,
they
wanted
to
increase
the
density.
We
had
recommended
25
dwelling
units
to
the
acreage,
it's
kind
of
closer
to
what
the
property
ownership
identified.
T
A
G
Mayor,
I
would
also
note
that
you
know
that
if
we
were
to
want
to
use
the
site
for
very
low
or
low
income
housing,
there
would
be
barriers
to
doing
so.
With
a
drawing
unit
of
less
than
30
units
per
acre.
We
could
the
state
still
could
be
available
for
moderate
uni
inc,
moderate
income
housing
at
a
lower
density,
but
30
dwelling
units
per
acre
is
the
minimum
for
cupertin
the
cupertino
as
a
jurisdiction
for
low
and
very
low
income
housing.
A
G
T
F
So
I
thought
that
the
the
policy
regarding
no
displacement
was
kind
of
interesting,
because
we
do
have
some
1970s
and
earlier
vintage
apartment
buildings,
which
some
of
them
do
not
have
any
bmrs
to
my
knowledge
and
if
they
were
to
be
rebuilt,
they
would
need
to
comply
with
our
reach
codes
and
be
more
energy
efficient.
They
could
be
at
a
higher
density
and
we
would
then
be
implementing
the
the
bmr
percentage
requirement
where,
for
some
of
these
units
at
3
000
dollars
per
month
or
3
800
per
month,
it's
not.
F
They
are
not
affordable
to
lower
incomes.
So
I
I
think
we
should
have
some
discussion
about
no
displacement,
because
there
may
be
some
apartment,
complex
owners
who
are
interested
in
providing
the
bmrs
in
their
in
their
on
in
their
project
and
increasing
the
density
going
down
the
road
and
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
removal
of
retail.
When
I'm
looking
at
the
the
land
use
designations
that
we
have.
F
F
We,
we
don't
have
an
auto
row,
there's
there's
some
missing
components
that
that
we
have
and
we
are
still
having
waiting
on
the
results
of
the
cdtfa
audit,
which
could
have
some
significant
impacts
to
us.
So
I
think
we
really
need
to
be
cautious
about
removing
retail
and
you
know,
while
I've
well,
I've
been
interested
in
the
crossroads
area
and
the
10
acre
site.
F
I'm
very
concerned
for
what
what
could
happen,
because
that
is
a
very
vibrant
and
it
has
been
modernized
and
updated
for
retail
areas
and
it's
quite
popular
so
losing
that
would
be
quite
quite
a
significant
impact.
So
anyway,
I
was
looking
for
an
answer
on
the
the
residential
components
that
we
seem
to
have
in
most
all
of
our
commercial
and
any
office
areas.
T
So
I
believe
that
is
a
remnant
leftover
from
our
third
housing
almond
cycle,
which
was
in
the
early
90s
cupertino
had
a
reno
of
around
3
300
units,
I
believe
back
then
or
3
900.
I
can't
remember
off
the
top
of
my
head,
but
one
of
the
strategies
that
was
employed
at
that
time
was
to
add
the
residential
designation
across
large
swaths
of
the
city
in
order
to
meet
that
arena
number.
T
However,
that
was
the
general
plan
level
and
not
necessarily
everywhere
at
the
zoning
level,
because
the
cities
could
still
control
zoning
and
so,
however,
due
to
changes
in
state
law
since
there's
now
a
residential
ability
on
every
site
that
has
the
residential
designation
of
the
general
time
level.
If
that
makes
sense,.
A
C
G
Yeah,
so
so
yeah
so
sites
between
0.5
and
10
acres
are
presumptively
suitable
for
development
of
lower
income,
housing,
smaller
or
larger
sites
are
considered,
challenging
and,
and
so
there's
a
there's,
a
higher
level
of
of
of
proof
of
more
more
information
that
the
city
would
need
to
provide
to
include
those
sites.
That
said,
I.
I
G
Rule
but
generally
the
the
I
believe,
emc
and
planning
has
focused
on
the
on
sites
that
are
presumptively
favorable.
You
know
suitable
for
low-income
housing,
and
you
know
the
number
of
units
that
are
generated
from
from
very
small
sites
is
you
know
it
takes
a
lot
of
those
to
add
up
to
get
close
to
the
target.
We
need
to
meet.
E
C
We
have
a
deficiency
on
that,
so
those
smaller
sites
could
still
produce
moderate
income,
housing,
yeah,
potentially
potentially,
and
then
regarding
the
density,
I
oh
by
the
way
so
next
time,
when
it
comes
back,
I
hope
another
information
will
helped
provide
is
the
vigil.
I
think
council
member
really
mentioned
the
video
for
density
like
20
units
per
acre,
what
that
looks
like
30
units
per
acre.
What
that
looks
like
in
have
picture
of
a
real
building.
This
is
a
question.
C
So
if
that
information
can
be
provided
again,
that
will
help
residents
to
visualize
what
those
look
like
and
then
for
so
and
and
then,
if
we
can
get
written
information
more
clearly,
okay,
we
for
cupertino
30
units
per
acre
is
required
in
order
to
count
the
sites
for
low
and
very
low.
Then
we
know
that
we
also
need
size
for
moderate
income.
Then,
what
how
many
number
units
per
acre
a
site
could
be
count
as
moderate
income,
those
kind
of
information
if
we
can
have
a
table
that
would
be
really
helpful.
A
Yeah,
okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Vice
mayor
chow,
all
right,
I
I
thought
it
escapes
me
right
now.
I
lost
in
your
last
point,
which
is
a
good
one
with
regard
to
you
know
the
request
for
additional
information
in
table
format.
So
so,
okay
right
now
we're
looking
at
a
a
map,
we're
kind
of
defaulting
east
to
west,
so
so
andy
that
list
of
16
sites
that
you
had.
Can
you
remind
us?
A
A
Exactly
okay,
okay!
Let's
do
this!
Let
me
check
in
with
diane
diane.
It
occurs
to
me
that
august
30th
is
actually
pamela
wu
second
day
of
city
manager.
Maybe
it
would
make
some
sense
to
check
in
with
her
as
to
the
follow-on
day
at
this
point,
so
I
I
think
we're
safe
kind
of
you
know,
figuring
out
august
30th,
but
on
your
preliminary
look
into
it
diane
is
there
any
particular
one
just
so
we
can
kind
of
have
an
expectation
wednesday.
A
A
K
K
K
A
That's
my
thought
as
well:
diane
yeah
I
mean
if
we
could,
I
I
don't
know
how
early
it
would
take.
I
I
know
that
there's
public
pushback,
sometimes
when
we
start
a
little
bit
too
early
because
availability
of
people
you
know
given
work
schedules,
but
I
I
you
know,
maybe
we
could
try
as
early
as
as
as
four
o'clock,
no
there's.
Okay,
so
so
work
schedules.
Five,
five
o'clock,
maybe
you
know
kind
of
end
of
the
typical
work
day
and
see
where
that
takes
us,
especially
for
focus
exclusively
on
on
this
particular
item.
A
So
vice
versa,
you
have
your
hand
raised,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
say:
let's
you
know
kind
of
put
this
into
a
a
continuation
to
our
special
meeting
on
august
30th
at
this
point,
but
we
we
do
have
a
lot
of
thoughts.
Kind
of
you
know
going
about,
I'm
hesitant
to
start
with
our
first
site
at
this
time.
You
know
once
we
have,
you
know
the
follow-ons
delivered.
I
think
that
we
probably
will
have
a
much
more
effective
discussion.
C
If
I
could
yes,
please
go
ahead,
I
think
two
separate
meetings
are
different
from
just
one
longer
meeting
because
separate
meetings
where
we
receive
some
information,
we
receive
some
comments.
We
can
then
digest
think
about,
and
we
can
also
ask
more
for
more
information.
Then
come
back
and
then
we
have
more
clear
hate
head.
A
Next
meeting,
yes,
that's
right,
that's
very
different!
Let
me
let
me
ask
this
of
either
our
outside
consultant
or
staff
or
or
anyone
who
could
speak
to
it.
If
we're
looking
at
the
week
of
september
12th
as
having
the
potential
follow-up
meeting,
how
is
that?
Looking
with
regard
to
our
our
timeline?
A
That's
you
know,
roughly
a
month
out
from
now,
I
I
know
from
an
optimistic
perspective,
we're
looking
at
you
know,
possibly
getting
right
around
the
time
if
you
have
an
er
or
an
environmental
impact
review
sequa
process
initiated
relatively
soon
after
we
consider
these
housing
sites
and
it
might
have
taken
us.
You
know
fairly
close
to
what
the
the
extended
deadline
would
be
in
the
spring.
A
D
Thank
you.
The
the
the
tightest
turnaround
we
can
have
for
an
eir
would
be
nine
months.
We're
gonna
try
for
faster,
but
that's
not
it's
typically
one
year,
so
so
that
that
that
would
in
effect
mean
that
three
three
weeks
further
out,
of
course,
once
we
once
we
delivered
that
ball,
we'll
pick
it
up
and
run
with
it.
Our
team
is
ready
to
move
quickly.
A
C
A
A
K
L
A
Instead
of
kind
of
holding
an
ebay
and
say
future
date
from
the
30th,
we've
actually
taken
the
date
of
our
starting
time,
and
so
I
guess
we'll
all
including
the
public
get
to
know.
You
know
pamela
quite
quite
directly
for
those
first
couple
of
days
assuming
that
that
works
out
so
well
I'll,
just
I'll
place
that
caveat
on
it
and
then
move
forward
with
that.
So
I
do
have
actually
three
hands
raised
from
vice
made
child
councilmember
way
and
councilmember
willie.
A
H
Okay,
yeah
very
briefly,
I
just
feel
that
now
we
have
this
cleared.
So
if
we
receive
the
gender
item,
we
have
any
suggestions.
We
should
give
the
staff
and
so
that
you
know
we
have
two
days
now
we
can
work
work
it
out.
I
know
we
want
to
take
our
time,
but
it'll
be
nice
if
we
can
finish
in
two
days,
so
let's
really
work
on
with
our
agenda
and
make
sure
that
what
we
want
the
staff
knows
ahead
of
time.
A
L
A
C
A
Last
day
you
know
sort
of
input
from
the
public
that
makes
you
go
okay.
You
know
I
have
my
template
done,
but
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
adjust
this.
In
that
point,
but
let's
just
let's
just
prepare
to
you-
know,
provide
a
cohesive,
overarching
summary
of
where
we're
at
get
everyone
properly
contextualized
and
we'll
just
move
forward
with
the
the
the
good
bulk
of
the
work
at
that
point.
So
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
move
us
back
to
agenda
item
number
12..
We
stand
at
10
48..
A
I
think
we
have
taken
you
know
break
previously,
but
let's
go
ahead
and
take
another
break
until
10
55.
Hopefully
we
can
get
through
items
number
12
and
19..
They
are
to
remind
everyone
respectively.
The
climate
action
plan
2.0,
as
well
as
the
cupertino
poet
laureate
for
the
upcoming
term.
So
we'll
see
you
back
here
at
10
55
in
approximately
six
to
seven
minutes.
Thanks.
A
We're
back
on
to
our
agenda.
We
pulled
items
12
and
19..
We
have
concluded
through
I'm
sorry.
What
was
that
it
was
12
and
17..
We
pulled
items
12
and
17
from
the
consent
calendar.
We
got
through
item
24
and
have
continued
that
to
august
29th.
I
believe,
subject
to
the
the
the
approval
essentially
of
our
new
city
manager
on
that
day,
and
so
we're
going
to
go
to
item
12
on
our
agenda
item
12
relates
to
the
second
iteration
of
our
climate
action
plan,
and
so
I
believe
that
should
be
andre
devort.
A
That
is
providing
that
presentation.
Andre
welcome.
Thank
you
for
all
of
the
hard
work
on
this
critically
important
aspect
of
cupertino's
contribution
to
making
sure
that
the
climate
crisis
is
hopefully
appropriately
addressed
on
a
wide
scale.
But
thank
you
very
much
again
for
for
your
work
on
this,
and
so
let's
go
ahead
and
take
away
the
presentation
here.
U
U
This
update
to
the
climate
action
plan
aims
to
establish
new
systems
that
are
resilient
and
equitable.
That
will
allow
for
a
transition
to
carbon
neutrality
in
the
future.
The
measures
and
actions
that
support
this.
This
goal
include
the
electrification
of
building
and
transportation
systems
and
increased
shift
to
active
and
public
shared
transportation,
continued
usage
of
carbon,
neutral
electricity,
water
use,
efficiency,
waste
reduction
and
diversion.
U
U
U
Also,
we
we
had
a
significant
milestone
and
commitments
in
2018
when
the
city
council
approved
a
climate
emergency
declaration
which
really
guides
our
our
policy
directions
to
act
with
utmost
urgency
relative
to
the
latest
climate
science
and
really
trying
to
accelerate
our
action.
In
this
space,
we
did
achieve
our
greenhouse
gas
reduction
targets
from
our
previous
climate
action
plan.
That's
what
really
kicked
off
the
process
here
of
the
cap
2.0
in
2019.
U
The
state
sets
the
new
guidelines
around
carbon
neutrality,
which
is
really
what
was
a
guiding
principle
here
around
the
cap
2.0
and
just
in
august
of
sorry
in
april
of
2022,
the
air
district
has
begun
updating
regional
greenhouse
gas
reduction
thresholds,
which
we
can
answer
questions
about
as
well,
and
I
do
want
to
say
that
this
is
a
very
historic
day
today.
As
you
may
have
heard,
the
federal
government
just
approved
the
largest
climate
bill
that
has
ever
been
approved
at
the
federal
level.
U
The
biden
administration
was
successful
in
about
a
350
billion
dollar
spending
package
for
climate
action,
that's
going
to
affect
adoption
of
clean
technologies,
electric
vehicles
and,
and
that
sort
of
thing.
So
this
is
a
very
exciting
and
historic
day
very
happy
to
be
here
with
you
again
just
looking
back
at
the
original
goal.
Setting
proposal
this
came
from
the
november
2020
sustainability
commission
recommendation
to
achieve
the
following
goals
with
the
cap.
U
2.0
update
and
the
really
relevant
goals
here
that
we
have
followed
in
the
creation
of
this
plan
is
to
reduce
community-wide
emissions
by
50
percent
by
the
year.
2030..
That's
according
to
a
2010
baseline,
achieve
carbon
neutrality.
Five
years
earlier
than
the
state
target
of
2045
established
a
zero
waste
community
target
date
2035,
and
we
also
discussed
a
guiding
vision
for
the
process
of
the
update
of
equity,
innovation,
urgency,
resilience
and
adaptation.
U
U
U
U
U
U
So
in
june
21st
the
council
reviewed
the
public
review
draft
cap
2.0.
The
council
members
asked
clarifying
questions
and
provided
feedback
on
the
draft
plan.
A
memorandum
was
circulated
to
the
council
members
in
july
of
22
addressing
the
questions
and
concerns
which
is
also
attached
to
the
agenda
packet.
Today.
U
The
attachment
to
the
packet
gives
much
more
detailed
responses
to
the
council
members
comments
and,
of
course,
myself
and
kelsey
are
here
to
elaborate
it
any
further.
In
particular,
there
was
concern
and
questions
around
the
public
transit
goals
and
the
project
team
conducted
a
quick
analysis
to
give
the
council
additional
options.
U
If
you
wish
to
look
at
the
public
transit
targets
and
just
a
summary
of
those
targets
is
sorry,
a
summary
of
those
options
is
to
leave
the
goal,
as
is
reduced
to
a
less
aggressive
public
transit
target
and
increase
our
ambition
in
the
electric
vehicle
adoption
rate
and
to
reduce
the
overall.
The
third
option
would
be
to
reduce
the
overall
greenhouse
gas
emission
target
for
the
cap
itself,
so
those
options
are
also
elaborated
in
the
staff
report
in
your
packet.
U
U
U
I
want
to
emphasize
that
the
actual
implementation
of
the
climate
action
plan
happens
through
the
normal
budgetary
and
work
program.
Planning
process
also
recall
one
of
our
original
vision
statements
for
this
process.
We
do
want
this
plan
to
be
flexible
and
adaptable,
as
you
saw
that
we
don't
know
exactly
know
all
the
technologies
and
means
that
we'll
need
to
get
to
carbon
neutrality
by
the
year
2040..
U
However,
what
we
think
we've
set
in
place
here
is
a
plan
that
does
allow
this
reconsideration,
especially
in
the
near-term
planning
cycles,
to
take
a
look
at
what's
happening
today,
adjust
the
actions
as
necessary
and
use
a
very
robust
monitoring
and
reassessment
program
to
take
a
look
at
what's
happening.
For
example,
the
california
state
budget
often
will
inject
funds
into
climate
action
and
various
grant
programs,
and
who
knows
how
swiftly
this
federal
money
is
going
to
start
coming.
U
But
we
do
want
to
have
a
very
robust
plan
in
place
to
react
and
apply
for
these
grants.
So
monitoring
and
reassessment
phase
is
a
critical
part
just
to
walk
you
through
real
quick
on
the
flow
chart.
The
general
plan,
environment
and
sustainability
element
starts
the
process
by
by
asking
the
the
city
to
create
a
climate
action
plan.
It
gives
some
very
broad
strategic
guidance
on
what
to
include
in
the
cap.
U
The
cap
2.0
here
is
what
we're
talking
about
today.
This
is
really
the
greenhouse
gas
reduction
plan,
as
is
directed
by
the
general
plan.
It's
a
little
bit
more
specific
in
strategic
targets
and
sectors.
It
does
include
that
greenhouse
gas
inventory
analysis
that
you
see
in
the
in
the
document
and
that
really
that
data
really
guides
what
focus
areas,
what
levels
of
effort.
We
think
that
the
city
should
take
over
the
course
of
the
planned
period,
which
is
until
the
year
2030.
U
and
again
I
mentioned
the
the
measures
actions
and
the
key
pillars
from
there.
There's
two
different
ways
that
that
the
climate
action
plan
actually
gets
implemented.
One,
as
I
mentioned,
is
the
sql
component.
There
is
this
is
a
sql
qualified
climate
action
plan,
which
means
that
it
offers
additional
tools
and
options
for
the
city
to
review
new
projects
and
new
plans
in
the
future
and
make
sure
that
those
are
aligned
with
this.
U
This
cap
and
the
greenhouse
gas
reduction
ambitions,
and
splitting
off
here
to
the
bottom
is,
is
what
I
refer
to
as
our
near-term
action
planning.
We
need
to
assess
our
staff
capacity.
We
need
to
create
work
program,
proposals
and
a
good
example
of
that
is
a
work
program
proposal
that
we're
embarking
on
very
shortly
here,
which
is
our
building
electrification
strategy.
So
you
can
see
how
we're
getting
much
more
specific,
all
the
way
until
we're
looking
at
a
specific
policy,
for
example,
a
policy
to
update
the
building
code
in
those
specific
policies.
U
U
U
A
Thank
you
very
much
andre
much
appreciated.
Let's
go
to
our
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
comment
on
this
item.
We
have
one
hand
raised
shawnee
kleinhouse
in
zoom.
Now
we
have
daschle
leeds
and
per
our
regular
practice,
we'll
go
ahead
and
offer
the
ability
to
raise
your
hand
or
fill
out
a
blue
card
or
email.
The
city
clerk
as
city
clerk
at
cupertino.org,
while
shawnee
is
speaking
in
order
to
be
recognized
for
public
comment
here
and
so
shiny
you'll
have
three
minutes.
As
with
all
the
other
speakers
welcome,
and
please
begin.
V
One
last
part
of
this
action
that
it
may
lead
to
recreation,
infrastructure,
insensitive
habitats
and
activities
in
sensitive
habitats
and
come
at
the
expense
of
habitat
connectivity
and
sensitive
wildlife
species.
And
so
we
asked
if
you
can
change
that
three
letters
there
improved
recreational
connectivity
with
ecologically
responsible
recreational
opportunities
for
the
community.
A
O
W
Hello,
my
name
is
nashville
leeds,
I'm
the
conservation
organizer
for
the
sierra
club,
lumber
prieta
chapter.
I
think
we
had
some
young
folks
from
silicon
valley,
youth,
climate
action
who
are
interested
in
tracking
this
item,
but
I
think
it's
pretty
late
at
night,
the
sierra
club
strongly
supports
the
adoption
of
cupertino's
climate
action
plan
2.0
update
tonight.
W
We
hope
you
adopt
the
staff
recommendation
option,
one
which
preserves
the
plan's
bold
and
necessary
transportation
goals.
We
ask
you
not
to
water
down
this
climate
action
plan
in
any
way
tonight
and
to
pass
I'd.
Also
like
to
support
chinese
comments.
I
think
the
inclusion
of
ecologically
responsible
recreation
language
in
item
cs
2.1
would
be
a
good
inclusion.
So
thank
you
so
much
really
looking
forward
to
the
implementation
of
these
strong
cap
measures
and
thanks
so
much
to
everyone
who
worked
on
this.
A
Thank
you,
daschle
and
we'll
go
ahead
and
take
this
back
up
to
council
for
any
follow-on
questions
or
comments.
Do
we
have
such
questions
or
comments
from
the
council?
If
not
I'll,
go
ahead
and
ask
someone
to
move
the
recommended
action
but
or
one
of
the
recommended
actions
or
a
modification
councilman
moore?
You
have
your
hand
up
and
I
do
see
a
handout
from
vice
mayor
chow
as
well.
So
when
we
start
with
councilmember
moore.
A
A
Okay,
great
yeah,
ecologically
responsible
recreation
opportunities,
recreational
kind
of
yeah,
okay,
okay,
so
that's
the
motion
of
councilmember
moore.
Would
anyone
like
to
second
that
vice
mayor
chow
seconds,
okay
and
council
member?
Did
you
have
any
comment
before
we
go
to
vice
merchant?
For
did
you
want
to
discuss
vice
mayor
chow.
C
A
E
A
Right
92
of
the
pdf
and
then
actually
well,
tr5
is
92
and
then
in
the
overall
packet
at
approximately
page,
215
is
where
the
tr's
begin.
So
any
any
any
feedback
on
this
councilman
moore
as
the
original
movement.
Perhaps
we
could
start
with
you
as
to
what
your
sense
on
these
comments
on
the
on
the
transit
connectivity
aspects
are.
F
It
says
it
would
be
to
con
it's.
You
would
conduct
a
traffic
pattern
study,
and
this
to
me
is
this-
is
simply
a
study
to
severely
limit
or
eliminate
parking
for
single
passengers,
specifically
gasoline
and
and
diesel
vehicles.
So
considering
that
this
is
looking
at
greenhouse
gases
that
that
makes
sense
to
me,
I
think
it
might
be
challenging
to
do
this
in
practice.
F
How
are
you
going
to
eliminate
parking
for
a
single
passenger
gasoline
vehicle
and
not
for
an
electric
or
other
alternative
fuel
vehicle?
I
think
that
might
be
a
challenge,
but
it's
regarding
making
having
a
study
and,
let's
see
and
again
the
next
4.6
is-
is
having
a
a
study.
So
I
don't
see
these
as
cast
in
stone
actions.
F
E
A
A
Okay,
I
think
that
gives
us
some
good
consensus
and
so
well,
you
know.
Let
me
let
me
just
extend
our
thanks
again
to
staff
and
our
members
of
the
public,
for
you
know
expressing
your
support.
It's
always
easy
in
cupertino
to
support
environmental
measures,
and
I
think
it's
a
real
testimonial
to
the
quality
of
our.
A
You
know,
communities
thinking
on
this
issue,
that
we
have
such
wonderful
staff
and
and
support
to
put
together
things
like
the
climate
action
plan,
2.0
with
a
lot
of
thoughtful
detail,
but
also
couched
in
manners
that
don't
necessarily
trigger
you
know
particular
sensitivities
in
the
here
and
now
they're
very
forward
thinking,
but
at
the
same
time
they
become
definitive
over
time.
When
you
look
at
something
like
the
flow
chart,
that
andre
was
showing
us
as
to
how
you
really
are
considering
the
various
parts
of
change
science
legislation
in
the
future.
A
So
it's
nice
to
see
that
kind
of
sector
being
approached
in
a
stepwise
manner.
That's
really
quite
quite
how
to
put
it
quite
quite
sufficient,
and
I
apologize
for
the
understatement
there
in
meeting
the
the
standards
of
our
community.
So
thanks
again
councilman
roley
did
you
want
to
make
a
comment
before
we
vote
on
this
item?.
L
L
I
I
tend
to
have
a
a
more
open
perspective.
I
think-
and
that
is
I
see,
that
many
different
pieces
of
the
puzzle
are
going
to
play
play
in
the
the
transit.
Yes,
that's
a
piece
of
it,
but
so
are
ev
and
I
think
we're
going
to
be
adopting
more
and
more
evs.
I
think
the
article
that
I
read
possibly
yesterday
or
this
weekend
where
the
the
new
biden
package
includes
you
know,
funding
to
promote
ev
vehicles
and
so
well.
L
There
we
go
moving
away
from
the
fossil
fuel
gas
engines
to
other
modes
of
getting
around,
and
so
I
think
there
is
going
to
still
be
a
a
strong
need
for
personal
transportation
and
there
will
be
hopefully
evs
to
fill
that
spot.
So
yeah
reduce
the
the
parking,
try
and
move
more
people
into
public
transportation,
but
you
know,
I
think,
we'll
still
have
many
different
pieces
that
need
to
come
together
to
get
us
where
we
need
to
be
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
A
Great
thanks,
councilman
willie
and
vice
mayor
ciao.
You
know
before
calling
you
I
I
do
see
we
have
an
outside
consultant
here.
Kelsey
did
you
want
to
speak
to
any
of
the
items
you've
heard
you
know,
I
I
take
it
that
the
tenor
of
the
conversation
is
going
fairly
positively.
With
regard
to
the
work
that's
been
done,
but
I
want
to
give
you
the
opportunity
you
know,
at
least
to
you
know,
say
hello
to
our
community
since
you've
been
here
through
the
the
the
evening.
X
I
just
wanted
to
commend
the
council
and
the
community
are
going
with
more
aggressive
targets
than
the
state
level
targets
and
being
involved
in
the
engagement
process
and
being
willing
to
work
over
the
past
few
months
on
all
these
different
cap
measures
and
as
somebody
who
works
on
both
sustainability
and
sequa
documents.
Glad
that
your
community
is
going
to
build
a
benefit
and
your
staff
for
future
development
projects
will
be
able
to
benefit
from
the
streamlining
availability
for
sql
ghg
emissions.
X
Analyses
as
well,
and
that's
good,
considering
the
new
ba
qmd
thresholds
that
you
are
adopting
the
cap
and
adopting
your
own
sql
ghd
thresholds.
But
that
will
also
make
your
lives
easier
as
well
moving
forward
and
just
to
thank
sierra
club
and
everyone
else
who
had
comments
and
made
it
an
even
better
cap.
A
X
So
we
at
rencon
work
on
I'd,
say
a
majority
of
the
cats
in
the
bay
area,
and
this
is
definitely
a
more
cutting
edge,
one
with
better
targets
than
than
most
a
lot
of
them,
just
kind
of
go
with
the
basic
state
level.
So
you
guys
are
with
you
know,
establishment
of
your
emergency
resolution
and
your
more
aggressive
targets.
X
You
are
I'd,
say
a
little
bit
more
above
the
average
ball
game
here
in
the
bay
area,
which
you
know
I
again
commend
the
community
for
as
well
and
just
wanted
to
echo
what
andres.
I
I
think
it's
just
it's
really
great
that
the
cap
will
be
considered
by
the
council
today
on
the
same
day
that
historic
federal
climate
legislation
was
also
passed.
So
I
think
it's
a,
I
think
it's
a
good
lucky
day,
all
around.
A
Thanks
thanks
kelsey,
we
really
appreciate
it
and
you
know
we
know
that
you
can
see
best
practices
throughout
the
jurisdictions
that
you
you
serve,
and
I
I'm
very
proud
of
cupertino
for
being
able
to.
You
know,
pull
in
all
these
various
resources
and
have
the
excellent
staff
it
does
to
be
able
to
get
these.
A
C
C
Also,
we
are
trying
to
make
that
goal,
but
then,
along
the
way,
there
are
thoughtful
policies
to
try
and
push
for
that.
And
then
I
like
that.
The
plan
also
has
urban
forest
management
plan,
because
climate
action
is
also
about
creating
that
on
greenery.
That
really
brings
us
better
air,
and
I
like
that
there
is
biodiversity,
and
then
I
really
appreciate
shannie's
comment
about
making
sure
that
we
preserve
the
ecological
resources.
C
A
You
know
the
the
well,
I
would
say
bowling
really,
but
but
you
know
more,
more
importantly,
it's
a
matter
of
efficacy
right,
I
mean
you
know
if
you're
couching
your
solutions
like
this,
it
becomes
a
much
more
palatable
runway
right.
I
mean
we're,
not
thinking
about
okay,
oh
well,
you
know
you're
you're
packaging
with
stuff.
That
is
completely
unsavory
and
not
vetted
particularly
well.
If
at
all,
so
you
know
again,
you
know
thanks
very
much.
A
We
hope
that
you
stick
with
us
throughout
the
entire
process
of
making
sure
that
we
implement.
You
know
cap
2.0,
and
I
know
that
there
are
many
decades
of
you
know
lots
of
work
by
a
number
of
good
people
to
make
sure
that
we
are
able
to.
You
know,
fight
back
the
you
know,
frankly,
ills
that
have
been
visited
upon
us
over
years
and
years
of
you
know
less
than
responsible
stewardship.
But
you
know.
A
A
A
You
very
much
madam
city
clerk,
and
so
I'm
told
that
we
are
on
item
17..
Let
me
pull
up
the
agenda
just
to
confirm
that
so
item
17
indeed,
was
the
consideration
of
the
library
commission's
recommendation
of
keiko
o'leary
for
appointment
of
the
new
2023
to
2024
cupertino
poet
laureate.
I
don't
see
a
presenter
here,
but
it
was
on
consent
and
I
do
see
a
few
people
that
are
still
here
from
our
parks
and
recreation
department
or
recreation
community
services.
I
think,
maybe
is
the
rochelle
remind
me,
your
department.
A
Y
A
R
A
Let
me
go
ahead
and
you
know,
for
our
usual
practice,
go
to
members
of
the
public
to
make
sure
that
we
open
up
for
any
potential
commentary.
I
see
a
few
people
that
are
still
here
on
the
zoom
function.
There's
nobody
in
community
hall
other
than
us
on
the
dice,
but
I
don't
see
any
hands
raised.
Madam
city
clerk,
were
there
any
emails
that
came
in
to
city
clerk
at
cupertino.org?
A
O
A
F
F
It
is
from
2016
and
there
are
sections
in
it
which
are
no
longer
current,
and
I
I
would
like
to
see
this
the
I
think
it
would
be
the
library
commission.
Perhaps
that
would
oversee
it,
but
I
think
it
needs
to
be
updated.
There's
information
about
the
contacts
for
for
people
in
the
community,
there's
information
about
what
different
community
members,
what
positions
they're
holding.
F
Y
An
item
that
was
brought
with
the
work
program
to
update
this
86-page
document
because
it
is
going
to
be
quite
quite
a
deal
to
really
work
through
this,
especially
because
we
have
found
that
there
are
things
that
we
should
tighten
up
with
the
process
altogether.
Yes,
but
I
just
it
definitely
didn't
make
it
obviously
on
the
work
plan.
So
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
reiterate
that
we
do
agree.
However,
it
is
going
to
be
quite
a
project.
Okay,.
A
Fair
enough-
and
you
know
as
we
as
we
sit
here
in
august,
we
could
always
add
that
to
the
work
plan
sometime
over
the
course
of
the
next
six
to
seven
months
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year
starting
july,
1st
2023.
So
let's
go
ahead
and
if
that's
okay
with
you
councilmember
moore,
maybe
modify
that
motion
that
you've
placed
on
the
table
to
make
it
a
referral
to
staff.
A
A
A
O
A
A
A
A
I
you
know,
as
as
people
are
thinking
about
it,
I
I
did
have
a
follow-on.
I
think
there
was
a
request
from
oral
communications.
I'm
trying
to
remember
I,
maybe
it
wasn't
the
speaker
who
was
speaking
on
issues
of
drought
but
yeah,
maybe
it'll
occur
to
me
as
someone
else
is
talking
on
the
future
agenda
items.
So,
council,
member,
more
your
hand
is
raised,
followed
by
vice
mayor,
chao,
councilmember
moore.
Why
don't
you
start
us
off
on
this?
One.
F
Thank
you,
mayor
paul,
so
I
actually,
I
I
feel,
like
our
agenda
has
been
pretty
packed
when,
when
they
get
over
a
thousand
pages,
it
puts
a
good
bit
of
a
workload
on
us
to
to
get
through.
There
is
gosh
there.
There
are
agenda
items,
future
agenda
items
available
which
takes
a
little
bit
to
get
to
get
to
on
on
our
on
our
website,
and
I
would
like
in
the
future
for
that
that
listing
to
be
put
in
on
this
item
as
an
attachment.
F
So
if
you
you've
seen
it
before,
there's
there's
a
listing
of
it,
I
I
could
probably
find
it
if
you
give
me
a
moment,
but
I'd
like
to
see
it
as
an
attachment
so
that
we
already
know
what's
cueing
up
so
that
we're
not
either
repeating
stuff.
That's
already
on
its
way
and
we
know
what's
coming.
I
think
that
would
be
pretty
helpful.
So,
if
you're
able
to
to
pull
that
that
future
agenda
item
listing
up,
I
would
I
think
that
would
be
pretty
helpful.
A
Sure,
thank
you,
councilman
moore
I'll,
go
over
that
with
with
diane
tomorrow.
With
regard
to
the
status
of
that
document,
I
think
it's
or
diane.
If
you
wanted
to
speak
to
it
briefly,
I
I
think
there's
an
ongoing
document
that
we
used
to
keep
as
to
kind
of
like
the
the
ordering
of
future
agenda
items
and
future
meetings.
Yeah.
K
A
C
Yeah
so
yeah
items
there
is
a
web
page
with
all
the
items
of
interest.
It's
a
bi-weekly
newsletter
by
the
city
manager
and
it
has
a
future
agenda
item,
but
it
doesn't
have.
I
think
it
doesn't
capture
a
lot
of
things
we
proposed
at
the
very
end.
It's
just
things
will
be
scheduled
already
so
and
I,
as
I
brought
up
that
the
quickside
farmers
market
seems
to
be
facing
potential
closure
too.
So
I
am
not
sure
how
to
proceed.
C
C
E
A
E
A
Late
as
as
early
this
morning,
so
I'll
take
that
under
due
consideration-
and
you
know
thank
you
in
extending
our-
you
know
brief
conversation
about
that
earlier
this
evening.
I
I
think
the
deliverable
probably
looks,
like
you
know,
an
item
that
would
perhaps
expound
or
expand
upon
the
subcommittee's
work.
E
A
F
F
And
we
had
a
bulletized
list
of
information
we
were
looking
for,
and
I
know
in
when
we,
when
we
had
this,
it
was
the
eight
thousand
dollar
accounts
payable
item
when
we
discussed
it
before
we
had
multiple
attachments
that
we
were
really
getting
a
bit
off
topic
for
that
agenda
item
when
we
were
discussing
it.
So
I
would
like
to
see
this
come
back
because
we've
been
waiting
for
a
while
to
have
a
conversation
about
it
and
and
thus
far
we
haven't
really
had
an
opportunity
to
do
that.
A
A
Okay,
well
we're
at
11
46.
This
meeting
is
adjourned.
Thank
you
very
much
have
a
great
night
and
we
will
see
you
likely
on
august
30th
for
a
special
meeting
or
perhaps
august
29th.
I
should
say-
and
we
hope
that
the
rest
of
your
month
goes
really
well
and
our
next
regular
meeting
to
remind
everyone
is
going
to
be
on
september
6th
the
day
after
labor
day
and
we'll
be
here
at
6
45
pm
thanks.
Everyone
have
a
great
night
meeting
adjourned.