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From YouTube: Cupertino City Council Meeting - May 2, 2023 (Part 2)
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Coverage of the May 2, 2023 Cupertino City Council Meeting.
(Part 2 of 2)
A
Thank
you.
Everyone
we're
going
to
move
to
item
number
13..
The
subject
is
consider
a
report
regarding
the
review
of
potential
violations
of
the
city
of
Cupertino
municipal
code
and
city
policies
regarding
Council
and
Commissioners
staff
relations.
Do
we
have
a
staff
report
by
a
senior
attorney
Jensen.
B
B
B
B
B
This
is
how
I
was
able,
for
instance,
to
determine
that
Cupertino
had
not
been
properly
reporting
its
financial
information
on
a
regular
basis
to
the
public
as
a
result
of
that
work,
I
discussed
this
fact
with
the
Civil
grand
jury.
During
my
interview
with
them.
That
discussion
is
what
led
to
the
Civil
Grand
jury's
prior
report
entitled
show
me
the
money,
but
the
problem
with
the
current
activities
is
that
they
fail
to
reflect
upon
the
various
parts
of
the
discussion
and
the
work
process.
B
Part
of
that
job
is
to
ensure
that
there
is
transparency
in
government
processes
and
a
great
deal
of
the
work
of
the
public
is
ensuring
that
people
understand
where
monetary
and
lobbying-based
influences
arise
and
what
their
effects
are.
I
see
this
current
exercise
as
a
pure
sham
and
I
think
it's
a
shameful
statement
as
to
the
protections
that
we
are
supposed
to
provide
to
the
public.
We
owe
it
to
ourselves
to
comport
ourselves
with
integrity
and
not
be
unduly
influenced
here.
B
I
do
not
believe
this
is
an
impartial
Council
that
should
be
making
what
appears
to
be
a
quasi-judicial
decision
that
will
adversely
and
falsely
impact
individual
interests
and
the
community.
In
the
absence
of
due
process,
we
have
had
bright,
inquisitive
and
hard-working
colleagues
on
this
Council
and
what
I
see
now
is
political
gamesmanship
in
the
form
of
leveraging
mechanisms
of
accountability
in
the
name
of
discriminatory
gains.
B
D
C
There
are
no
no
rights
of
any
individual
affected
by
this
report,
so
there
is
there's,
certainly
no
due
process
obligations,
at
least
not
at
this
time,
and-
and
certainly
you
know,
council
member
Moore
was
not
advised
to
recuse
herself.
Nor
is
she
required
to
at
really
any
stage
of
this
process,
including
today,
but
if
she
chooses
not
to
participate
in
the
deliberation,
that's
her
right
to
do
so.
C
The
city
council
directed
the
city
attorney's
office
to
investigate
and
report
back
on
violations
of
the
municipal
code
with
respect
to
council
staff
and
commissioner
staff
relations.
The
city
attorney's
office
retained
Linda
Davi
to
conduct
an
independent
investigation,
and
the
council
has
been
provided
with
a
confidential
attorney-client
privilege
report
prepared
by
Miss
Dobby.
C
C
If,
if
Council
wishes
to
discuss
this
report
further,
it
may
consider
continuing
this
item
to
allow
the
public
the
opportunity
to
review
the
report
and
participate
fully
in
the
discussion.
If
Council
does
not
see,
see
the
need
to
discuss
this
report
further
or
discuss
this
report
in
public,
no
action
is
required
today
and
I
point
out
that
Miss
Dobby
is
available
on
Zoom.
If
there
are
any
process
related
questions
that
the
council
has.
C
However,
at
this
point
the
substance
of
the
report
remains
confidential
and
so
we're
not
prepared
to
discuss
it
and
as
well
as
you
know,
Miss
Dobby's
thought,
processes
and
and
and
and
and
and
and
and
deliberations,
and
preparing
the
report.
Our
attorney
work,
product
and
reflector
of
mental
Impressions
and
so
wouldn't
be
an
appropriate
topic
for
the
discussion
today.
So
with
that,
we
are
both
available
for
questions
from
the
council.
A
Thank
you,
City
attorney,
so
I
understand.
Miss,
Linda
Dobby
is
online
to
answer
procedures.
Questions,
that's
correct,
okay,
so
I'm
opening
up
for
Council
questions.
So
please
remember:
our
city
attorney's
advised
that
this
is
still
under
a
client
attorney,
client
privilege.
So
no
content
and
confidential
information
is
to
be
revealed.
So
do
we
have
any
questions
or
yes,
please,
council,
member,
no.
E
D
E
Kind
of
and
I
have
asked
for
even
for
the
part
that
I
was
interviewed,
that
it
requested
a
transcript
of
my
interview,
because
I
feel
the
the
report
report
is
extremely
biased
and
accurate
and
I
requested.
The
transcript
of
the
interview
and
I
was
told.
The
transcript
itself
is
confidential.
Therefore,
the
transcript
of
every
interview
is
confidential.
The
only
thing
that
will
be
made
available
to
the
public
would
be
opinions
written
by
me
step.
However,
you
can
say
it's
neutral,
but
it's
an
opinion.
C
So
there
so
so
there
is
no
transcript
available
for
your
discussion
with
Miss
Dobb
Dobby,
I,
I,
I,
I,
I
I.
Believe
the
advice
would
remain
that
that
the
the
report
is
final
and
that
you
know
any
attempt
by
council
members
to
influence
the
opinion
of
an
independent.
The
independent
investigation
would
raise
pretty
serious
ethical
concerns.
E
E
E
You
mean,
at
least
for
me
now
no
attempt
has
been
no
material
has
been
given
to
me
anything
that
I
that
I
read
in
the
report
and
then
I
didn't
see
those
until
I
read
and
then
the
report
did
not
provide
any
facts.
So
I
would
have
like
to
have
a
conversation
on
the
accuracy
of
those
accusation,
but
I
was
not
able
to
bring
that
up
in
the
interview,
because
I
was
not
aware
of
those.
E
Okay,
20
seconds
left
so
I
did
not
receive
the
report
until
3
pm
yesterday
and
I
didn't
have
time
to
really
read
through
them.
I
only
had
maybe
about
10
minutes
to
glance
through
them
today
at
work,
and
so
I
would
request
that.
Please
postpone
this
item.
If
you
want
to
make
any
action,
because
I
need
to
go
through
the
report
to
respond.
G
F
H
Yes,
I've
been
a
public
lawyer
for
approximately
in
excess
of
30
years.
I
worked
for
the
City
of
Long
Beach
for
10
years.
I
was,
with
a
fairly
large
law
firm
in
Los
Angeles
for
another
eight
I
matriculated
My
Way
North
to
Sonoma
County
I
served
as
a
contract,
City
attorney
for
a
city
in
Contra,
Costa
County
for
another
eight
years
and
then
I've
been
I,
ran
my
own
Law
Firm.
For
the
remainder
of
that,
and
that's
what
I'm
doing
now,
I've
done
a
lot
of
litigation.
H
H
H
That
was
the
cons
you
know
which
what
you
do
is
look
for
credibility
and-
and
you
know,
I
basically
don't
have
a
dog
in
this
hunt
so
to
speak,
and
so
what
you're
doing
is
looking
to
see.
You
know
what
are
the
factors
that
are
most
important
and
I.
Think
I've
listed
some
of
those
in
the
report,
but
but
what
you
do
then,
is
you
interview?
H
You
know
you
know:
I've
interviewed
16
people
in
here
current
and
former
employees.
You
then
because
of
the
numerous
emails
which
I
went
through,
which
is
about
oh
probably
up
to
800
I,
don't
know
my
eyes
are
going
a
little
bit,
but
I
went
through
and
I
compared
what
the
statements
were
with
the
email
exchanges.
H
H
A
I
You
Mary
a
question
to
miss
Dobb.
Did
the
people
were
the
people
who
were
mentioned
in
the
report?
Did
you
in
your
in
your
line
of
work?
Did
they
get
sufficient
opportunities
to
explain
themselves
or
yeah,
maybe
explain
themselves,
and
did
they
get
an
opportunity
to
make
sure
that
whatever
the
accusations
or
the
incidents
that
were
mentioned
were
handled
from
from
their
side
as
as
well?
And
it
wasn't
just
one-sided.
H
As
far
as
I
could
tell
because
there
it
was
more
not
so
much
consistent
or
individual
incidents,
but
collectively
there
were
just
a
couple
of
things
that
you
know
and
I
had
very
good
conversations
with
the
people
mentioned
in
the
report.
So
as
far
as
I
was
concerned,
the
the
issues
where
there
was
the
other
side
of
that
story.
Those
are
the
things
that
have
been
included
in
the
report.
H
I
I
think
one
of
the
things
and
if
I
may
comment,
one
of
one
of
the
issues
that
you
saw
in
the
Civil
grand
jury
report
and
I
did
watch
that
council
meeting
that
there
were
some
some
some
issues
raised
about
some
of
the
findings
there.
So
one
of
the
things
that
I
wanted
to
do,
which
was
sort
of
a
carry-on,
was
to
to
to
ask
questions
regarding
you
know
what
the
what
the
issues
were
with
the
report.
So.
A
Thank
you.
So
thank
you.
I
have
a
question
a
couple
questions.
Thank
you
Miss
Dobby.
Can
you
wait
a
little
bit
what
I
asked
RC
21
questions?
First,
so
Jensen
when,
when
the
council
instructed
you
to
find
a
an
investigator,
did
you
do
due
diligence
and
find
a
professional?
You
feel
that
would
give
the
council
an
unbiased
professional
investigation.
C
Yeah,
yes,
Miss
Miss
Debbie
has
experienced
a
municipal
attorney,
and
this
is
her.
Current
practice
is
doing
this
kind
of
investing
Personnel
investigations
as
well
as
this
kind
of
investigation,
and
so
so
she
has
extensive
experience
and
again,
the
purpose
of
retaining
her
was
was
to
prepare
an
independent
report.
Thank.
A
You
Miss
Dobby
can
I
ask
you
a
couple
questions
procedural
questions.
As
in
your
profession,
in
your
professional
opinion,
this
particular
case
you
have
applied
the
customary
and
professional
procedures
to
come
up
with
an
independent
report
where
you
think
that's
accurate,
or
can
you
elaborate
on
it.
H
Yes,
you
know:
I
I
am
a
frequent
speaker
in
terms
of
processes.
I
am
asked
by
several
I
represent.
Currently
I
go
all
over
the
state,
because
I
came
from
Southern
California
and
so
I'm
frequently
asked
to
go
back
there,
and
you
know
I'm
asked
by
city,
attorney's
offices
and
by
county
council's
offices
to
evaluate
other
investigative
report
and
and
to
me
you
know,
one
of
the
things
that
I
forgot
to
mention
is
that
I
I
started
out.
H
I
do
a
lot
of
work
with
police
departments
and
fire
departments
and
so
forth,
where
you
really
have
a
focus
on
The
credibility
of
of
you
know.
Whatever
the
report
is
that's
generated
because
these
things,
you
know
you
have
to
base
on
facts,
you
cannot
base
on
opinions,
you
have
to
verify
and
so
forth.
So
yeah
I
this
one.
You
know
I'm
I'm
a
stickler
on
that
because
again
from
my
Approach,
the
you
know,
I'm
not
here
to
to
say-
or
you
know,
I,
don't
approach
these
things
like
well,
you're,
the
bad
person
and
you're.
H
You
know
the
good
person
and
you
know
I,
don't
do
that.
My
Approach
is
problem
solving.
If
you've
got
issues
and
concerns,
let's
just
lay
them
out
and
see
if
we
can
move
on
and
that's
always
been,
my
Approach
and
I
will
tell
you.
There
are
some
clients
that
don't
like
that,
because
you
know
there
are
some
people
out
there
that
do
investigations
that
simply
say
well.
A
So,
thank
you.
Miss
Dobby,
so
I'm
gonna
further
pursue
this.
You
would
say
that
this
report
that
you
produce
is
independent
and
and
verified
by
facts,
even
though
you're
interviewing
people,
but
you
do
go
over
factual
materials
that
you
get
to
verify
the
words
of
people.
Would
that
be
a
fair
statement
that.
H
Is
the
very
fair
statement,
yeah
yeah?
Absolutely
absolutely
because
you
know,
if
you
do
these
things,
the
ultimate
goal
is
to
do
these
things
is
to
address
the
situation
and
and
to
say,
okay,
if
we've
got
issues,
you
know
what
what
do
we
need
to
address
and
fix
those
kinds
of
things
so
yeah,
that's
really
important
to
me
personally
and
in
terms
of
my
professional
reputation
so.
A
K
Yes,
it's
my
yes
and
Mike
is
working.
I
would
just
say
that
no
one
introduced
the
nice
lady
that
was
on
the
camera
that
you
were
speaking
to
so
I
I,
didn't
know
who
she
was.
She
was
not
introduced.
That
I
saw
I
would
have
preferred
that
she
was
here
I
thought,
reading
this
staff
report
that
this
was
just
going
to
be
something
about
we're
going
to
make
this
Grand
Jury
report
public
okay.
So
it
turns
out
that
it's
a
Witch
Hunt
we
are
going
after
three
elected
City,
Council
Members.
K
Okay,
you
have
to
understand
the
frame
of
reference
that
a
lot
of
the
public
are
coming
from.
I'm
coming
from
I
belong
to
three
groups
in
California
that
are
fighting
the
housing
laws.
Okay,
let's,
let's
get!
Let's
understand
that!
I
feel
that
my
state
is
threatened,
that
every
democracy,
every
democratic.
K
Law
that
my
ancestors
died
for,
we
had
five
people
killed
before
the
Revolutionary
War
in
South
Carolina
by
machete.
So
you
can
understand
the
toll
that
the
last
years
have
taken
on
everything
that
I
believe
in
I.
Never
thought
that
my
state
would
reach
this
point
that
we
were
removing
sitting
elected
city
council
members
that
disagree
with
the
yimbi
ethic
and
all
of
the
money
that
is
being
pumped
in
by
Google
and
Facebook.
Let's
get
it
all
out
there.
K
This
is
a
Witch
Hunt,
and
this
is
what
we're
going
to
become
if
these
housing
laws
are
approved
and
the
governor
is
involved.
Okay,
yeah
Jerry,
Brown,
I
I
said
before
that
I
have
little
faith
in
anyone
that
is
an
elected
at
the
state
level.
I
have
faith
in
certain
members
of
my
city
council,
because
I
have
been
down
in
the
trenches
when
we
were
fighting
the
urban.
Whatever
those
things
was
that
San
Jose
was
trying
to
do
where
they
were
putting
in
300
foot
high
Urban
Villages.
K
Okay,
I
was
in
the
trenches
with
these
people
five
years
ago
and
that's
why
they're
elected
on
your
city,
council,
yes,
I,
think
this
is
a
Witch,
Hunt
and
they're
I.
Don't
know:
okay,
I've
seen
a
lot
of
stuff
in
here
in
23
years
and
five
years
in
the
county
before
when
we
were
trying
to
Annex
but
I,
don't
care
what
you
do
with
that
grand
jury.
You
need
to
make
sure
that
the
public
knows
because
to
me,
I,
don't
see
this.
It's
a
Witch
Hunt
thank.
J
D
C
A
a
point
of
order,
so
the
the
rules
procedure
provide
that
if,
if
a
speaker
representing
Fiverr
were
members
of
the
public
in
attendance
and
wishing
to
comment
on
an
item
but
electing
not
to
speak,
the
speaker
may
have
up
to
10
minutes
to
address
the
council
consolidation
of
time.
Among
speakers
does
not
otherwise
allowed.
If
Council
wishes
to
do
something
different,
it
does
have
the
ability
to
vote
to
suspend
the
rules.
I.
M
Hi
I'm
Darcy
Paul
I
find
this
course
of
action
taken
by
the
new
Council
majority
in
investigating
the
prior
Council
extremely
disappointing.
When
a
political
majority
asks
for
an
investigation
like
this,
it
is
not
only
without
precedence
and
the
City
of
Cupertino.
It
is
also,
in
my
opinion,
requested
by
the
very
group
that
should
be
investigated.
M
Overwhelming
amounts
of
special
interest
dollars
have,
over
the
years
attempted
to
wield
grossly
disproportionate
amounts
of
financial
influence
over
our
elections.
Unfortunately,
as
a
result
of
these
activities,
rather
than
focusing
upon
the
work,
the
focus
has
been
upon
discrimination,
fueled
persecution
of
those
doing
the
work
of
reading,
objective
thinking
and
the
sharing
of
opinions
and
perspectives
without
fear
of
undue
political
or
monetarily
based
reprisal.
M
Unfortunately,
the
truth
of
the
matter
is
that
such
reprisal
does
indeed
exist
and
it
exists
in
full
force,
as
reflected
by
actions
of
a
new
and
narrow
political
majority.
I
do
welcome
the
opportunity
to
have
a
meaningful
and
fair
dialogue.
That
approach
was
what
I
worked
and
sacrificed
for
during
my
time
in
public
office.
M
I
think
that,
as
a
result,
our
community
did
very
well
because
people
and
entities
who
engage
with
this
approach
realize
that
this
was
not
about
short-term
superficial
gains
by
sacrificing
substance,
but
about
the
intrinsic
value
of
ensuring
Integrity
of
process,
consideration
and
delivery
of
implementation.
My
concerns
are
that
now
the
work
of
the
public
has
been
attacked,
not
for
legitimate
reasons
related
to
the
details
and
challenges
of
democratic
governance,
but
for
political
purposes,
grounded
in
superficial,
Optics
and
maneuvering,
devoid
of
any
real
redeeming
thoughts.
M
I
question
this
process
in
a
backdrop
of
the
corruption
of
our
institutions
that
are
supposed
to
be
protecting
the
electorate
from
a
lack
of
transparency
and
greedy
influences.
I
questioned
the
nature
of
the
anonymous
complaint
that
motivated
this
investigation
and
I
believe
that
you
have
placed
yourself
in
an
untenable
position
of
pursuing
bad
politics
and
bad
policy.
I,
don't
think
anything
will
get
done
with
these
methods
of
not
doing
the
work,
inviting
a
slew
of
special
interest
dollars
and
then
blaming
decent
smart
people
for
the
problems
of
the
people.
M
M
How
can
you
have
due
process
preserved
when
you
go
directly
from
a
report
which
was
apparently
being
researched
last
week,
I
asked
the
investigator
to
send
me
written
questions
last
week
and
received
none
to
one
that
is
now
being
put
up
the
following
Tuesday
for
consideration
of
public
disclosure.
This
majority
voted
for
the
report.
Has
it
conducted
any
fact
checking
and
diligence
Beyond,
political
and
monetary
biases
and
influences
does
anything
Drive
the
process
here
as
controlled
by
this
majority?
M
If
so,
it
does
not
appear
evident
since
I
left
office,
I
have
done
my
best
to
respect
the
space
of
a
new
composition
of
the
council.
I
wish
and
hope
that
people
tasked
with
doing
the
work
of
the
public
and
who
have
been
given
the
substantial
responsibility
of
representing
our
electorate
take
this
role
seriously
study
the
issues
with
humility
and
act
accordingly
with
the
realization
that
the
work
of
public
office
in
our
society
is
neither
glorious
nor
fun.
M
It
is
certainly
not
vindictive
when
we
lose
sight
of
the
fact
that
the
elected
job
is
grounded
in
self-sacrifice,
listening
and
thoughtful
engagement.
Then
we
are
implementing
a
very
different
system
than
the
one
we
aspire
to
deliver
in
my
first
three
years
on
Council
I
didn't
go
on
a
single
City,
related
trip,
I
stayed
here
and
I
did
the
job
and
that
effort
generated
workable
policies
and
those
policies
led
to
real,
affordable
housing
projects.
M
J
N
Thank
you
so
I'm,
going
to
start
with
months
ago,
I
asked
for
a
definition,
a
true
definition.
That's
used
by
this
city
and
in
the
documents
that
used
the
phrase
of
undue
influence
and
I
later
asked
just
a
small
number
of
people.
Actually,
one
person
to
add
to
that
request.
A
definition
of
due
diligence,
I
haven't
gotten
either
and
I
still
am
requesting
that.
N
N
O
Kitty,
more
Liang
Chao
have
been
champions
of
transparent
transparency.
I
could
talk
all
night
if
not
for
Kitty.
Cupertino
would
have
been
out
of
compliance
financially
and
I'm
grateful
to
her,
and
we
all
should
be
that
we're
not
building
on
toxic
soil
at
velco.
Thanks
to
Liang,
we
can
read
presentations
before
Council
meetings.
O
Kitty
is
a
civil
engineer
and
has
become
a
Secret
expert.
More
Liang
is
a
brilliant
problem.
Solving
as
brilliant
Problem
Solver
with
a
PhD
in
computer
science
hung
you're
a
long
time,
public
servant
and
Sheila.
You
come
with
so
much
Finance
expertise
and
Jr.
You
passed
the
bar
exam,
so
you
know
this
really
looks
like
further
dividing
our
Council.
We
have
important
work
to
do
you
all
need
to
work
together.
O
O
J
P
Good
evening,
mayor
way
and
council
members
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
myself
only
this
evening,
so
I
am
a
Parks
and
Rec.
Commissioner
I
urge
you
tonight
to
release
the
confidential
report.
We,
as
residents
have
voted
for
our
city
council
members,
who
then
appointed
Commissioners.
These
are
public
officials
and
their
actions
affect
every
city
resident
I
myself
was
sworn
in
just
a
few
months
ago,
and
I
knew
at
that
time.
I
was
taking
on
a
duty
that
had
specific
requirements
every
other
commissioner
and
council.
Member
knows
that
too.
P
We
as
residents
deserve
to
know
whether
all
our
Cupertino
elected
officials
are
fulfilling
their
duties,
including
whether
they
are
interfering
with
day-to-day
operations
of
the
city,
whether
they
are
respectful
towards
our
paid
City
staff
and
whether
they
are
violating
our
Cupertino
municipal
code.
This
is
just
common
sense.
It's
also
clearly
part
of
being
a
transparent,
City,
a
transparent
city
government
who
represents
and
respects
its
citizens
and
staff.
Let's
continue
to
move
forward,
as
we
have
been
these
past
few
months
with
that
respect
and
transparency.
By
releasing
this
report.
Thank
you.
J
Q
Me
and
ASC
members
for
the
council,
during
your
film
I,
have
on
multiple
locations
plead
with
you
all
to
please
work
together.
This
is
not
Washington
DC.
This
is
not
a
two-party.
City
Council
election
campaigns
and
elections
are
over
and
we
request
the
council
to
work
together
and
tackle
the
big
issues
that
are
in
front
of
the
city
to
continue
to
spend
time
on
this
topic
and
not
provide
the
decency
and
privacy
that
it
deserves
is
only
reflecting
on
the
vicious
politics
that
have
continued
after
the
elections.
Q
Q
The
respect
that
we
provide
our
city
staff
in
performance
reviews
is
not
the
respect,
we're
providing
our
elected
officials,
a
mere
442
votes,
separated
a
council
member
sitting
on
the
tires
from
one
that
could
have
been
there.
A
mere
442
votes
separated
the
entire
Destiny
of
how
Cupertino
could
have
shaped
up
in
four
years.
Q
Q
This
should
be
A,
Private,
Matter
not
exposed
to
the
public
and
let
Council
move
forward
with
issues
that
the
public
can
actually
measure
your
impact
on.
May
we,
one-third
of
your
term,
is
over
what
impact
will
you
have
that
people
will
look
back
on
10
years
from
now
to
say
this
is
what
may
be
accomplished.
Q
Q
J
R
R
The
workshop
the
Dave
Styx
provided
might
as
well
not
have
been
done
because
you're
not
doing
it
you're,
not
even
trying
you've
had
a
tax
accusations.
All
for
political
gain.
You've
talked
about
building
Community
cooperation
collaboration.
Yet
all
your
actions
over
the
last
five
months
have
been
contradictory
to
those
polls.
R
R
Liang
Chao
has
worked
diligently
to
make
sure
that
transparency
and
public
input
and
public
involvement
was
critical
to
their
regime,
but
not
you.
You
have
eliminated
this,
you
have
eliminated
participation,
the
the
council
meetings
are
shorter
because
nobody
gets
information.
In
fact,
some
of
the
items
don't
even
get
mentioned.
They
just
appear
on
paper,
so
I'm
asking
you
and
I
agree
that
maybe
you
should
look
at
yet
anatomy
of
Feasts
and
stop
dividing
find
ways
to
unite.
R
S
S
S
S
The
City
waving
attorney
client
privilege
would
allow
for
the
public
release
of
the
report.
This
would
enable
the
details
of
the
grand
jury
report
to
the
open,
City
and
public
review.
The
city,
the
Cupertino,
Council
City
staff
and
residents
can
then
consider
federally
responsiveness
to
the
finding
the
grand
jury
findings
were
serious
and
Cupertino
is
legally
required
to
address
his
findings.
S
Having
having
the
results
of
the
the
details
of
the
result
made
available
to
all
of
us
would
help
bring
the
details
to
light
and
for
good
governance
for
all
to
proceed.
Any
council
member
can
defend
themselves
in
an
open
discussion
following
a
open,
full
public
report.
It
is
transparency
to
have
the
report
details
made
available
to
everyone.
Political
gamersmanship
is
usually
called
out
by
those
who
participate
most
in
political
gamesmanship
show
us.
The
report
show
us
the
details
to
the
one
council.
Member
do
not
allege
count
gamesmanship.
Why
you
yourself
display
gamesmanship,
be
transparent.
S
Wave
a
training
crime
perfect
show
us
the
report
detail.
Any
council
member
can
defend
themselves
by
giving
details.
This
is
any
Council
member's
time
to
speak
a
council
member
can
say
they
did
not
have
the
opportunity
to
give
their
sign,
but
they
were
interviewed
by
the
Civil
grand
jury
been
the
same
council.
Member
recusing
herself
is
not
backing
their
statement
that
they
weren't
given
a
chance
to
give
their
side.
This
is
her
chance
to
present
her
case
who's,
accusing
herself
in
place.
S
She
cannot
defend
her
previous
actions
when
given
an
opportunity
to
any
of
the
versions
of
the
issues
at
hand
with
off
topics.
Not
Central
to
the
issues
brought
up
by
the
grand
jury
is
obvious,
obvious
obfuscation
do
not
make
allegations,
including
Financial
or
whatever,
without
proof,
don't
attack
the
messenger
as
one
councilman.
Thank.
G
Hi
good
evening,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity.
I
am
just
going
to
mention
things.
I've
noticed
since
since
I've
been
involved,
and
that
is
when
I
first
got
involved
right
before
Liang
and
councilmember
Chao
and
council
member
kidney
got
elected,
they
were
heavily
supported
by
the
residents
of
Cupertino
and
the
sitting
counts.
The
other
three,
the
that
are
now
pushing.
G
This
have
always
been
known
through
next
door,
posts
and
whatnot
to
be
heavily
supported
and
funded
by
developers
and
special
interest
groups,
and
whether
or
not
they
were
directly
and
whether
or
not
it
was
a
pact
that
was
funded
by
them.
It
was
known
so
I
would
like
everyone
here,
including
the
attorney.
That's
investigating
to
keep
that
in
mind
if
there's
any
bearing
in
that
judgment.
Also,
the
question
I
have
for
the
attorney.
G
It
was
very
obvious
and
when
I
spoke
to
them
at
the
time
before
they
left,
they
were
very
almost
rude
to
the
residents
that
were
trying
to
get
some
answers.
So
I
I'm
I'm
really
questioning
the
individuals
that
made
these
accusations
and
the
legitimacy,
because
I
I've
had
the
chance
and
privilege
to
work
with
both
council
member
chow
and
council
member
Moore
and
I've
never
met
some
more
honest,
incredible
individuals
that
really
had
the
residents
interested
heart.
So
please
keep
in
mind
some
of
the
developers.
G
What's
going
on
a
four
billion
dollar
project
with
possibly
International
money
coming
in
heavily
heavily
pushed
I
think
the
plan
was
always
to
get
them
elected
and
has
always
I
mean
it
just
seemed.
It
was
like
bang
bang
getting
them
as
soon
as
they
came
in,
they
had
a
plan
and
they
started
to
they'd
elected
mayor
way
before
the
election
Council.
The
meeting
ever
happened-
and
it's
just
been
very
obvious
to
me
that
this
was
on
the
agenda
and
the
plan,
so
I
beg
everyone
here
to
please
keep
in
mind.
A
You,
madam
CD
Clerk,
and
thanks
for
all
the
public
comments
I'm
going
to
bring
back
this
to
council.
Please
keep
in
mind
that
we
have
not
voted
to
waive
the
attorney
client
privilege.
So
no
content
of
the
report
is
going
to
be
discussed,
I'm
bringing
back
to
council
discussion.
Anybody
would
like
to
make
comments.
E
E
D
E
The
report
at
this
point
many
residents
appreciate
the
fact
that
council
members
are
responsive
to
their
concerns
and
they
appreciate
the
questions.
I
ask
have
any
of
the
Investments
being
interviewed,
none
of
them.
This
is
why
this
report
is
biased.
It
didn't
interview
the
most
important
people
in
this
room.
The
residents
who
elected
us
it
didn't
interview
any
of
the
residents
whom
all
the
city
staff
is
hired
to
serve.
E
I
was
interviewed.
I
cannot
talk
about
the
content,
but
glancing
at
the
report.
Only
on
the
pushing
related
to
myself.
This
is
the
most
biased
report.
I
have
ever
read.
I
asked
the
transcript
as
City
attorney
alluded.
Two
cannot
be
released
because
that's
a
turning
client
privilege.
However,
the
council
is
asked
to
waive
privilege
only
on
this
report,
which
is
a
collection
of
never
I,
find
that
the
the
preparer
of
the
report
took
things
didn't
even
talk.
E
E
This
is
the
report
consists
of
opinions
no
on
not
so
different
from
the
Civil
grand
jury.
It's
a
collection
of
hearsay
because
there
is
no
cross-examination,
no
swearing
truths
say
the
fact
and
no
way
to
even
verify
what
the
report
is
derived
from,
because
all
the
supporting
material
is
still
a
client
is
still
privileged,
so
the
public
will
be
able
to
Only
See
a
report
similar
to
Gwen's
devotion
report,
which
As
We
Know
is
a
collection
of
hearsay
with
no
fact-
and
so
I
must
ask
my
fellow
council
members:
what
are
you
trying
to
achieve?
E
Are
you
trying
to
Advance
your
political
goal
by
revealing
it
in
this?
If
we
are
trying,
if
the
goal
is
to
improve
the
process
of
the
council
meeting,
we
are
already
on
our
way
of
doing
that.
We
exposing
this
very
biased
report,
and
only
the
report,
not
any
of
the
supporting
material,
will
only
tear
the
city
apart
and
it
does
not
really
achieve
any
of
the
goals
that
we
should
be
working
on
better
working
relationship.
If
there
is
anything
we
can
improve,
we
can
continue
to
work
on
that.
We
have
a
council
Workshop
coming
up.
E
F
So,
when
I
originally
moved
for
this
investigation
as
part
of
our
response
to
the
Civil
grand
jury,
my
intention
was
twofold:
one:
to
demonstrate
to
the
Civil
grand
jury
that
we
took
their
report
seriously
as
we
should
have
and
that
we
were
actively
seeking
to
improve
our
city
governance
if
the
allegations
could
be
substantiated
and
then
second
to
determine
whether
the
Civil
Grand
jury's
findings
were
accurate
and
if
so,
to
what
extent
so
that
we
could
address
the
matter.
However,
this
body
can.
F
I
I
So
during
this
process,
there
was
an
independent
attorney,
an
investigator
who
looked
at
all
the
incidents
mentioned
in
the
grand
jury
report
and
Beyond,
and
this
was
the
the
opportunity
that
the
council
members
had
to
make
their
case
and
correct
all
the
incidents
which
they
felt
were
inaccurate
in
the
grand
jury
report.
So
in
the
interests
of
transparency,
we
all
talk
about
transparency
all
the
time.
So,
in
the
interests
of
transparency,
I
don't
see.
D
I
A
We
want
to
work
together,
but
on
the
premises
of
being
honest,
have
integrity
and
this
report,
as
stated
by
council
member
froon
and
vice
Mohan,
it
is
to
verify
that
civil
grand
jury,
because
when
that
report
came
out,
there
were
statements
that
they
were
not
true.
This
is
really
not
what
happened.
It
was
just
a
one-sided
story
from
staff
so
to
further.
A
This
report
is
to
really
verify
whether
you
know
our
council
members
being
planned
wrongly
and
I'm,
hoping
that
it
that
you
know
so-
and
the
second
thing
is
I-
want
to
call
all
for
respect.
We
have
a
professional
Miss,
Linda
Dobby.
She
is
a
professional.
She
produces
unbiased
reports,
she's
not
connected
to
any
one
of
us
she's
not
connected
to
special
interest
and
I
trust.
Our
City
attorney
has
secured
us
a
professional
to
give
us
unbiased
report
in
that
respect.
A
This
is
paid
by
public
fund
and
this
is
to
verify
the
grand
jury
report.
They
could
be
both.
It
could
go
both
ways
so
for
transparency.
I
do
believe
our
public
has
the
right
to
know
what's
in
this
report.
As
for
working
together,
how
can
we
work
together
if
we
don't
ourselves,
are
not
honest
with
us
ourselves
and
are
not
transparent,
are
not
willing
to
work
together?
F
A
T
D
K
A
E
The
reason
I
put
this
item
is
because
this
is
a
location
of
amount
budget
amount
over
three
hundred
thousand
dollars.
I
think
I
have
requested
it
before,
but
never
acknowledge
that
this
kind
of
item
should
not
be
on
consent.
This
is
the
kind
of
item
that
the
public
would
want
to
know
and
I
have
other
questions.
Do
I
ask
them
now,
or
is
there
a
staff
representation,
there's
no
step
presentation?
Okay?
So
how
much
do
we
have
in
the
art
in
Google
fee
right
now.
V
E
V
E
So
we
already
have
4.5
million
dollars
spent
on
this
location
and
this
project
and
this
art
English
fee
I-
think
it's
meant
to
provide
art
in
Cupertino,
which
is
much
much
needed.
I
think
we
we
need
a
who
do,
need
more
art
in
Cupertino,
and
this
item
has
not
been
through.
The
final
commission
I
understand
that
it
will
go
through
to
the
Fine
Art
Commission,
when
the
items
are
proposed
to
be
selected.
D
T
Is
correct
through
the
mayor?
Just
point
of
clarification,
so
what's
being
asked
of
council
tonight
is
that
this
is
a
restricted
art
in
Luffy
fund
we're
asking
Council
to
allocate
the
funding
for
the
artwork
at
jollyman
Park,
and
this
is
not
for
equipment
and
once
the
artist
is
selected
and
the
art
pieces
are
confirmed,
it
will
go
through
the
Fine
Arts
commission.
For
final
confirmation.
B
B
Okay,
so,
but
we're
looking
at
the
funding
for
these
extra
amenities
for
this
particular
playground,
and
also
when
I
was
looking
at
the
budget.
You
have
the
library
extended
hours
over.
Six
hundred
thousand
dollars
has
been
allocated
for
that
and
it
hasn't
been
spent
because
we
haven't
had
to
spend
the
money
for
the
extra
hours
since
well.
T
This
is
not
the
subject
for
tonight,
but
if
you
would
like
to
add
that
to
a
future
agenda
item,
that
is
the
council's
discretion
and
point
of
clarification.
The
ask
before
council
is
to
allocate
the
money
that
has
been
restricted
for
art.
It
is
not
to
provide
for
additional
amenities
to
the
playground.
This
is
purely
for
public.
B
Arts,
well,
you
can
consider
the
art
to
be
an
amenity
to
the
playground,
because
it
pretty
much
is
so
also
so
this
policy,
if
I'm
understanding
correctly
it
arose
from
staff
and
not
Council,
who
are
the
policy
makers,
so
I
was
wondering
if
there
was
some
discussion
about
whether
or
not
to
bring
the
concept
to
a
council
to
see
what
we
thought
about
it.
First,
before
having
these
kind
of
absolutes
about,
you
know
you,
you
will
take
this
money,
you
are.
You
are
going
to
do
this.
T
There
is
no
absolute
asking
of
the
council
tonight.
This
is
staff's
recommendation.
Our
professional
opinion
is
how
the
money
should
be
spent.
It's
completely
up
to
council
and
your
full
discretion
to
decide.
Staff
will
not
have
our
feelings
heard
if
you
counseled
collectively
decide
that
this
is
not
the
right
place
for
the
public
guards
to
be
implemented.
T
B
Thank
you
and
and
I
want
to
point
out
that
those
are
restricted
funds
and
there
was
an
expectation
for
for
where
what
would
be
purchased
with
it,
and
the
city
has
multiple
properties
where
the
the
public
art
could
be
placed,
and
also
I,
going
back
to
the
600
000,
which
is
going
to
be
again
this
year.
Unspent
funds
for
the
library
extended
hours
I,
what's
troubling
me,
is
that
we're
being
kind
of
pushed
into
just
looking
at
these
restricted
funds.
B
T
The
mayor
I
just
want
a
point
of
clarification
that
I
believe
councilmember
Moore
was
referring
to
other
budget,
but
this
is
a
restricted
art
in
loot
fee
for
public
Arts
implementation.
Again
this
is
Staff
recommendation
to
be
implemented
at
Jolly
met.
Council
has
full
discretion
to
decide.
If
this
is
the
right
location,
I
believe
Public
Works
staff
will
not
have
their
feelings
heard.
If,
if
Council
collectively
believe
that
there's
a
better
place.
A
I
V
At
this
excuse
me
again
interim
director,
Chad
Mosley
at
this
point
in
time.
Jollyman
is
an
appropriate
location
because
we
have
an
existing
project
that
we
believe
would
benefit
from
public
art
features.
We
believe
that
this
is
going
to
be
kind
of
a
an
area-wide
location
for
people
to
come
because
of
the
you
know
the
inclusivity
of
this
project.
V
You
know
with
that
stated,
as
a
city
manager,
Wu
had
had
indicated
we're
offering
this
opportunity
for
Council
to
consider
the
addition
of
these
funds
for
our
facilities
at
this
project.
But
again,
if
Council
chooses
not
to
do
so,
that's
your
prerogative,
we're
just
providing
this
as
an
opportunity
for
you
to
provide
those
funds
at
this
location.
I
V
The
only
time
constraint
at
this
point
in
time
is
for
the
project
we
need
to
get
this
project
started
in
relatively
short
order
in
order
to
take
advantage
of
other
Grant
funds
that
we've
secured
for
this
project.
So
we've
brought
this
to
you
to
provide
this
opportunity.
If
you
decide
not
to
move
forward
with
this
tonight,
we
will
just
move
on
from
this
and
continue
with
the
existing
project
so
that
we
can
be
sure
to
hit
those
timelines
for
the
other
Grant
funds.
C
A
very
based
memorandum,
just
just
to
clarify
so
I,
so
there's
no
immediate
requirement
to
spend
the
funds.
If
Council
chooses
to
put
them
to
a
different
use,
it
would
become
an
issue
if,
if
the
city
were
to
to
keep
the
fees
you
know
in
over
and
indefinitely
Or
over
a
very
long
period
of
time,
and
so
so
there
would.
We
would
want
to
start
working
on
an
alternative
plan
to
spend
the
money
if,
if
Council
decided
to
go
in
a
different
direction,.
E
V
E
E
Maybe
those
can
be
installed
in
other
parks.
Those
I
mean
that's
really
nice
amenities
that
you
have
suggested
in
the
staff
report,
but
I
would
love
to
see
those
in
other
Parks,
not
just
jollyman,
because
jollyman
is
already
going
to
get
a
really
cool
amazing,
inclusive
playground.
So
if
other
Parks
could
get
the
musical
branch
and
some
of
these
other
interesting,
interactive,
Mosaic
bench
and
and
their
mural,
those
could
go
in
any
park
right.
T
So
through
the
mayor,
if
I
may
so
staff's
recommendation
is
to
use
the
to
utilize
the
current
fund
to
implement
at
jollyman
again,
if
Council
feels
otherwise
Council
has
full
discretion.
I,
wouldn't
necessarily
labor
my
staff
to
do
the
design
on
the
diets
at
this
point
to
figure
out
what
bench
or
which
art
elements
should
go
somewhere
else.
E
A
So
I
have
a
couple
questions,
I
think
the
end
one
of
them
is
answered.
This
in
this
money
is
came
from
public
storage
project.
That
is
correct,
so
usually
a
development
have
this
Igloo
Feast.
They
usually
does
a
art
project
right
there.
So
this
is
the
money.
That's
only
we.
How
long
do
we?
How
usually
do
we
receive
in-lu
fees
for.
T
If
I
may
I
believe
it
it's
in
detail
in
the
staff
report,
a
project
of
certain
size
with
expansion
or
whatnot
is
required
to
provide
public
Arts
per
our
Municipal
Code.
Given
the
location
and
sensitivity
in
the
nature
of
the
public
storage
project,
it
was
decided
that
a
in-lu
fee
is
more
beneficial
to
the
city
than
having
a
public
arts
on
site.
T
For
instance,
I
believe
the
beta
Brother
Project
will
have
a
public
art
component,
so
is
the
marina
Plaza
project,
typically
Community
Development
staff
work
with
public
work
staff
and
also
potentially
Parks
and
Rec
staff.
To
arrive
at
that
professional
opinion
to
decide
whether
or
not
in
on-site
public
art
or
a
park
in
Luffy
is
the
best
solution
for
the
city.
In
this
scenario,
the
public
storage
facility
project
inadvertently
volunteered
to
have
the
art
in
Luffy.
Therefore,
the
total
amount
that
has
been
taken
from
the
public
storage
project
is
being
used
or
being
proposed
at.
A
The
jollyman
park,
thank
you.
That's
what
I
would
like
the
public
to
know,
because
this
English
fee
is
because,
if
you
put
a
public
art
in
the
public
storage
area,
it's
really
not
a
beneficial
to
our
city,
so
I'm
very
appreciative
of
staff's
professional
opinion.
To
arrive
this.
We
have
this
much
money.
I'd
like
to
follow
up
with
council
member
Moore's
continued
mention
about
the
six
hundred
thousand
dollars.
That's
another
part
of
money
that
cannot
be
mixed
with
this
project,
I
mean
we
have
funds
everywhere.
We
have
funds
in
general
fund.
A
T
And
to
respond
to
council
member
Moore
I
am
not
aware
of
the
600
000
Library
fund
that
you're,
referring
to
I'll,
be
more
happy
to
talk
to
assistant
city
manager
to
locate
but
mayor
where
you're,
absolutely
right.
What
is
being
proposed
is
to
out
is
for
Council
to
allocate
what
has
been
prior
allocated
for
are
in
lieu
and
and
point
of
clarification
and
point
out
by
council.
Member
fluent
that
this
is
the
first
time
the
city
has
ever
received
a
r
in
Luffy
and
also
detailed
in
staff
report.
T
We
currently
don't
have
a
policy
staff
is
working
on
a
policy
that
will
be
brought
back
to
council
for
final
consideration,
so
oftentimes
council
is
used
to
seeing
a
public
art
being
dedicated
and
offered
on
site,
and
this
is
the
first
time
we're
taking
Project
X
and
put
it
on
a
city
facility,
so
assistant
city
manager,
Morley.
If
you
have
the
information
to
answer
council
member
Moore's
question,
we.
U
Need
to
do
research
on
the
600
000,
but
assuming
that
it's
for,
if
they're,
assuming
there
is
600
000
for
Library
extended
hours,
that
would
be
general
fund
dollars
and
just
like
any
other
general
fund
dollar
that
could
be
appropriated
by
Council
on
on
any
any
given
Tuesday.
The
the
goal
here
is:
we've
collected
funds
from
from
a
developer
for
the
use
on
public
art,
and
so
the
goal
is
to
follow,
through
with
the
commitment
to
use
those
funds
for
public
art,
and
that's
why
our
recommendation
is
before
you
thank.
A
B
Yes,
so
I
was
looking
at
Palo,
alto's,
public
art
and
their
ordinance.
They
do
have
a
public
art
fund
and
the
the
money
will
stay
in
there
until
it's
designated
by
their
their
their
version
of
our
fine
arts
and
culture
commission.
So
it's
not
having
to
be
pulled
out.
I
did
a
turn
in
for
for
written
Communications.
The
the
library
Services
account
the
budget
unit
160-636
and
have
confirmed
with
the
jpa
Santa
Clara
County
Library
District.
B
The
last
check
that
we
sent
them
was
in
2019
for
468
thousand
dollars,
but
we
have
continued
to
allocate
money
for
the
extended
hours,
even
though
there's
plenty
of
taxes
there.
So
I
would
like
to
know
because
it
doesn't
sound
like
it
is
such
a
difficult
matter
for
Council
to
do
to
reallocate
the
money
and
retain
the
300
and
something
thousand
dollars
in
that
in
the
in
the
restricted
fund
and
and
with
regards
to
the
restricted
funds.
B
A
K
K
You
know
we
went
through
the
whole
Main
Street
drama
which
took
I
think
that
was
10
years
ago,
but
it
was
every
bit
as
big
as
Valco
and
we
spent
hours
looking
at
maps
and
graphs
and
dialogues
Etc
and
they
discussed
the
in
Luffy
for
art
and
I.
Think
it's
set
it.
What
is
it
seven
percent
three
percent
and
it's
it's
a
flat
amount.
K
Okay,
remember
the
people
in
the
public
in
the
audience
know
these
things:
okay,
we're
not
newbies
I've
spent
millions
of
hours
sitting
here
so
I
know
this
stuff
by
heart,
the
the
art,
the
funds
and
the
art
are
not
normally
spent
on
one
project
now,
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
magical
bridge.
This
has
been
going
on
for
four
years
now.
I
think
it's
a
wonderful
Project
A
lot
of
it
was
paid
for
by
grants
from
various
people.
K
K
I
have
great
respect
for
staff.
Believe
me,
I
have
been
through
so
many
city
councils
and
Mayors
we've
had
staff
members
come
and
go.
Some
people
are
still
here.
Some
people
come
back
again,
but
I'm
not
really
exactly
sure
why
we
have
to
have
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
of
art
on
the
magical
bridge.
Is
it
becoming
the
big
black
hole?
Bridge?
K
Are
we
putting
in
a
chiquely
twenty
thousand
dollar
Glass
Project
like
they
have
at
I
I,
understand
I
know
we
have
one
at
Palo
Alto
Medical
Clinic
at
Highway
85
in
El
Camino,
but
then
my
friend
claimed
that
there's
another
one
in
Palo
Alto.
So
we
are,
we
just
going
to
put
a
chicouli
out
there
for
twenty
thousand
dollars
and
stick
it
in
the
park
where
it
might
break
I,
don't
understand,
okay,
if
if
they
want
to
take,
you
know
fifty
thousand
and
do
artwork
with
it
or
something.
K
But
at
this
point
we
need
to
explain
to
the
audience
and
yes,
it
may
be
in
the
staff
report,
but
there
are
people
in
the
public
who
need
to
know
what
is
going
on,
because
it's
our
money,
the
developers,
don't
normally
the
developers,
are
required
by
law
to
give
a
certain
percentage
to
the
art
fund.
That
is
it.
It's
never
been
any
different.
So
why
are-
and
we've
never
spent
it
all
at
one
and
think
if
velco
ever
builds
out
we're
going
to
have
40
million
dollars
of
art,
but.
D
N
N
I
would
I
attended
by
Zoom
the
meeting
close
to
a
year
and
a
half
ago
where
arts
and
culture
had
this
come
before
them.
Staff
explained
because
arts
and
culture
is
who
makes
the
decision
of
whether
dollars
that
are
meant
to
be
on
site,
are
deferred
and
made
into
in-loop
fees
to
go
somewhere
else.
That's
who
makes
that
decision?
That's
how
the
city's
rules
are
written
yet
for
some
reason,
there's
never
been
a
rule
on
how
that
money
gets
distributed
somewhere
and
at
that
meeting
I
spoke.
N
The
minutes,
don't
reflect
it
because
minutes,
don't
say
anything
other
than
I.
Was
there
and
spoke
I
asked
staff
and
I
suggested
to
the
Commissioners
at
the
time
you're
the
people
that
are
deciding
this
money
is
not
going
to
need
to
go
at
Public,
Storage
I
think
it's
important
if
you
understand
where
the
money's
going
to
go
and
what's
going
to
be
done
with
it
and
I
believe
that
you
should
have
the
ability
to
decide
where
that
money
goes.
N
Since
you
decided
it
wasn't
going
here
and
that's
your
job
staff
was
unable
to
answer
the
question
because
there
was
no
procedure,
so
I
find
it
very
uncomfortable
to
have
something
come
with
one
plan:
I,
don't
know
if
it's
a
good
plan
or
not
I,
just
don't
think
it's
being
done
properly.
I,
don't
think,
and
and
I
applaud.
Public
I
have
hog
public
works
for
being
creative
and
trying
to
think
of
a
way
to
put
something
else
there.
If
they
really
think
it's
needed
I
personally,
don't
think
it's
needed,
but
that's
neither
here
nor
there.
N
The
problem
is,
there's
not
a
procedure
and
I.
Don't
think
it's
right
for
you
to
be
asked
to
make
a
decision
on.
One
idea
in
one
question
I
asked
was:
was
this
project
site
considered,
meaning
the
Tory
Avenue
or
any
other
or
any
other
projects
considered
any
other
sites?
And
the
staff
answer
was
opportunities
for
art
at
other
City
Field
facilities
have
not
been
evaluated.
This
is
a
One-Shot
thing.
There
should
be
choices
and
that
arts
and
culture
commission
should
be
making
the
primary
recommendation.
N
N
It
will
go
to
arts
and
culture
for
confirmation,
not
not
for
a
yes
or
a
no
for
confirmation.
I'm,
not
sure
what
that
means,
but
it
doesn't
sound
like
they're,
making
a
decision
and
I
think
that
is
the
main
thrust
of
the
problem
here,
not
that
it
wouldn't
be
great
to
have
whatever
is
being
talked
about,
not.
O
Good
evening
again,
I
want
to
thank
council
member
Moore
for
their
comments.
I
also
submitted
written
comment,
which
you
probably
have
really
great,
to
see
more
explanation
in
the
packet
from
staff.
So
I
want
to
bifurcate
the
issues
here.
One
is
on
the
budget,
so
look
in
2021,
December
2021,
so
it's
almost
2022
a
year
ago
or
so.
This
project
was
going
to
cost
us
1.2
million
dollars
in
City
funds
and
then
somehow
a
ballooned
and
by
another
1.1
million.
O
So
my
at
today's
point,
we're
at
2.1
million
in
City
funds
and,
what's
being
asked
of
you
tonight,
is
to
put
in
a
16
percent
increase
for
this
project
of
340
000.
So
that
would
be
us
out
of
pocket
2.4
million.
The
total
budget
is
at
4.6
million
right
now.
Do
we
really
need
another
0.3
million?
That
would
take
it
close
to
5
million?
O
O
So
I
want
to
go
on
to
what
about
the
issue
of
the
art
piece.
So
that's
a
separate
issue.
You
know
I
started
looking
at
the
Cupertino
municipal
code
and
you
know
the
so.
The
overall
goals
are
to
enhance
Community
character
and
identity,
provide
attractive
public
Arts
to
Residents
and
visitors
alike,
and
then
it'd
be
visible
from
the
street.
You
know
something
about
what
would
that
mean?
You
know
maybe
some
sculptures
at
Quinlan
or
sculptures,
even
at
other
Parks,
if
they're
just
packing
an
awful
lot
of
stuff
in
here.
O
Thankfully,
staff
also
provided
some
more
information
about
the
ideas
of
what
would
go
in
and
so
create
a
presentation
for
3500.
That
is
not
art.
Okay,
that
shouldn't
you
know
to
me.
This
looks
like
I
hate
to
say
it,
but
I'm
going
to
say
it
because
it's
been
eating
at
me.
Misappropriation
of
funds,
colloidal
scope,
installation
for
83
000.
You
know
that
kind
of
looks
like
more
like
a
landscaping
or
garden
feature.
O
That's
also
ineligible
colorful,
peaking
Windows
is
this
art
and
by
the
way,
all
art
has
to
have
an
eight
by
eight
inch
plaque
on
it
to
for
the
artist
viewing
binoculars
seriously
a
musical
bench,
bird
scavenger
hunt,
a
multilingual
tactile
sign
the
CMC
explicitly
says
no
to
signs
stair,
murals
and
a
contingency
of
50k,
not
okay.
Just
please
say
no.
Thank
you.
J
R
Good
evening,
mayor
way,
vice
mayor,
Mohan,
council
members
and
staff
I.
Second,
everything
that
Rhoda
fry
has
said,
but
I
want
you
to
think
about
it
in
a
different
way.
You
have
the
opportunity
to
do
a
win-win
this
project.
The
current
plan
has
the
construction
doc
documents
being
ready
in
August
2023.
That's
in
what
two
three
months,
the
deadline
is
June
24th
2024..
R
R
R
R
R
R
J
P
Thank
you
Kristen
good
evening,
again
mayor
way
and
council
members
I'm
again
speaking
on
behalf
of
only
myself
this
evening
and
not
on
behalf
of
the
parks
and
recognition.
This
city
council
has
already
approved
this
great
amenity
of
an
all-inclusive
playground
for
our
City's
youngest
residents.
I'm,
really
glad
that
that's
not
up
for
debate
tonight.
The
issue
tonight
is
whether
adding
art
creatures
to
the
playground
is
considered
public
art,
an
in-loo
public
art
piece,
whether
or
not
they
should
be
used
to
add
art
features
to
the
playground.
P
I
say
that
art
has
no
age.
Many
adults
are
conditioned
to
look
at
art
as
something
static
like
a
painting
or
a
statue.
That's
kind
of
what
I
think
of
when
I
think
of
Art
kids.
Don't
have
these
limits.
In
fact
our
Municipal
Code
chapter,
19,
Section
148,
says
any
other
form
of
artwork
determined
by
the
arts
and
culture.
P
Commission
is
permitted
public
art
allowing
us
to
consider
unique
types
of
art,
whether
it's
hearing
the
first
two
and
they
make
themselves
on
the
musical
bench
or
climbing
a
stair
mural
or
all
the
colors
they
see
in
the
decorative
Sun
Kaleidoscope.
Our
children
will
be
interacting
with
art
and
gaining
an
appreciation
for
it.
This
is
the
first
time
that
the
city
is
using
art
in
Luffy's
this
way,
and
it
will
give
us
some
great
experience
to
create
a
forward-looking
policy
in
the
future.
D
W
A
W
Think
very
helpful
suggestions
for
how
to
move
forward
with
this
project.
I
I
really
appreciate
them.
What
Lisa
Moore
was
saying
about
how
it
seems
that
we
really
haven't
involved
the
Fine
Arts
and
your
commission
in
making
decisions
about
what
to
do
with
with
these
windfall
funds
from
the
public
storage
project,
and
that
that
seems
like
a
a
really
unfortunate
miss
that
you
have
an
opportunity,
as
others
have
stated,
to
bring
more
people
in
to
improving
our
our
public
spaces
and
people
who
generously
volunteered
their
time
on
the
Fine
Arts
and
cultures.
W
Commission,
and
it
seems
that
we're
we're
really
not
getting
that
that
resource.
It's
due
that
it
that
we
would
benefit
if
we
had
I
think
maybe
more
people
thinking
about
how
we
could
best
utilize,
These
funds
and
and
I
do
agree
with
what
ye
Griffin
said,
especially
that
the
project
will
move
forward
and
we'll
have
a
wonderful
new
playground
for
the
community,
and
it
doesn't
need
to
have
the
art
it
could
have.
W
If
it
doesn't
have
these
other
things
added
and
to
the
other
point
that
Jellyman
Park
is,
it's
got
a
lot
going
on
and
we
have
other
perks,
other
public
spaces
that
have
far
fewer
amenities.
It
would
be
nice
if,
again,
the
Fine
Arts
commission,
Fine
Arts
cultural
commission
could
be
looking
at
other
spaces
where
we
might
sort
of
share
that
that
wealth
of
resource
of
art.
W
S
Hello
of
us,
so
thank
you.
I
am
speaking
to
support
the
city
staff
recommendation
of
item
8.
using
cupertino's.
First
in
new
art,
the
gentleman
all
inclusive
place,
directory
approval
of
eight
will
optimize
the
jollyman
all
inclusive,
play
structures
planning
and
include
art
in
an
optimal
usage
serving
the
community,
especially
the
children.
S
Children
and
adults
will
come
from
all
over
the
city
to
the
central
location
in
jollyman
and
art
can
indeed,
children
can
enjoy
an
interactive
art
feature,
including
a
decorative
Sun,
Kaleidoscope,
interactive
musical
bench,
nature
related
art,
a
multilingual
technical
sign.
Deer
marrow
artists
are
capable
of
doing
incredible
things,
and
this
would
leave
a
huge
opening
for
children
to
be
introduced
to
art
as
an
interactive
feature.
S
This
would
be
an
excellent
and
efficient
merging
of
interactive
art
within
the
time
constraints
of
jollyman's
play
structure
and
incorporate
the
art
feature,
while
construction
is
occurring
for
the
play
structure.
I
think
this
is
a
I
commend
the
city
staff
they're,
coming
up
with
an
efficient
and
clever
way
to
get
the
artist
dog
in
the
middle
of
jollyman
being
under
construction.
This
will
probably
result
in
more
efficiency
and
less
cost.
S
This
is
a
creative
and
efficient
solution
for
our
city
in
the
middle
of
the
City
versus
Lawrence
midi
on
the
far
edge
of
the
city,
Memorial
Park,
which
will
require
three
to
four
more
years
of
planning
versus
garment
that
can
be
done
by
the
middle
of
next
year.
So
for
the
present,
the
time
deadlines
on
Jellyman
structure
and
our
limited,
valuable
staff
time,
we
need
to
proceed
with
this
win-win
solution
and
approve
item
8
smoothly
and
promptly.
S
We
should
not
ignore
the
jollyman
deadline
with
further
wandering
around
investigating.
We
have
a
a
very
professional
staff.
They
have
City
staff.
They
have
come
up
with
a
very
clever
efficient
solution
and
children
and
adults
will
be
drawn
from
all
across
the
city
to
enjoy
this
all-inclusive
structure
and
for
it
to
include
art
elements
that
will
involve
the
children
in
interactive
art
play
will
be
fabulous,
they
so
kudos
to
the
city
staff.
Please
vote
Yes.
A
You
medicity
clerk
I'm,
bringing
it
back
I'm,
going
to
go
close
to
public
comment,
bringing
back
for
Council
for
comments.
First,
I'd
like
to
take
a
couple
minutes
to
ask
two
questions
to
verify
a
couple
of
things:
I
heard
a
few
comments
about
staff.
Are
you
going
to
be
able
to
do
this
on
time?
If
we
add
any
art
to
it
to
not
lose
our
grants.
A
T
E
Oh
here,
okay,
yeah
I,
think
the
features
mentioned
in
the
staff
report
that
sound
very
interesting
and
I
will
not
object
to
having
those
artistic
features
in
a
playground,
and
it's
good
to
know
that
in
whatever
our
decision
tonight
would
not
affect
the
schedule
of
the
project,
but
I
do
want
to
make
sure
that
we
follow
existing
city
code,
so
Municipal
Code,
19.148040
has
ineligible
artwork
and
before
that
it
has
permitted
artwork
I
think
here,
it's
very
clear.
Art
means
original
art.
E
If
something
that's
really
nice
artistic,
but
if
it's
commercially
produced
and
available
in
multiple
locations,
it's
not
art.
The
the
idea
of
public
art
is
not
only
to
provide
art
to
the
city,
but
also
to
support
artists
who
create
original
work.
I
thought,
that's
intent.
That's
why
here
ineligible
work
is
reproduction
of
original
art
is
not
eligible.
Unless
it's
produced
in
limited
edition
and
direction
of
functional
elements
is
not
eligible.
Art
object,
that's
mass
produced,
not
eligible
landscaping
and
garden
features
are
not
eligible.
E
X
If
I
may
Susan
Michael
CIP
manager,
we
are
aware
of
the
code
and
the
requirement
that
the
art
be
original
and
custom
there'll
be
no
standard
pieces
uses.
If
it's
also
of
any
comfort,
The
Next
Step
would
be
that
we
will
return
to
the
arts
and
culture
commission
with
a
proposal
and
they
will
review
the
art
itself
against
those
standards.
X
E
B
Okay,
thank
you
so
going
back
to
the
the
funding
that
I
mentioned,
so
I
am
disappointed
that
we
spent
the
thirty
three
thousand
dollars
for
fundraising,
which
was
originally
supposed
to
bring
in
hopefully
two
million
dollars,
and
then
it
was
lowered
to
1
million
and
then
in
the
end,
we
we
didn't
have
any
fundraising
money
from
that.
But
I
did
notice,
though,
that
the
website
has
a
donate
button
and
I
was
wondering
I
mean
for
this
specific
project.
B
The
policy
been
floated
by
the
council
to
have
a
discussion,
so
I
I
think
we
better
find
a
way
to
open
that
up
and
Palo
Alto
seemed
rather
simple
to
follow
and
it
was
structured,
pretty
close
to
two
hours
and
so
I'm
glad
to
see.
This
is
moving
forward
with
with
a
few
caveats
that
I've
mentioned
and
I
do
hope
that
and
I'll
bring
it
up.
B
Like
I
mentioned
that
the
that
other
funds
that
we
can
look
into
that
and
and
I
I
think
it's
great
for
the
public
to
also
understand
and
for
myself
to
understand
how
the
money
can
be
moved
throughout
the
budget.
I
think
that's
an
important
bit
of
information
and
and
we're
gonna
need
it
in
the
next
few
weeks.
Okay,
so
thank
you.
A
I
Since
this
is
these
are
restricted
funds
and
I
I've
asked
these
questions
of
staff
and
I'm
satisfied
that
that
are
certain
efficiencies
that
will
that
will
be
generated
as
a
result
of
placing
this
art
in
in
jollyman
park,
as
opposed
to
anywhere
else,
and
that
there
are
Grant
fundings
which
which
could
grant
funding
which
could
be
in
Jeopardy.
If
we
don't
proceed
now
or
today,
I
am
convinced
that
that
this
is
the
way
to
go
and
I
I
would
like
to
proceed
with
the
with
the
staff
recommendation.
F
All
the
way
over
on
the
end
here,
I
I,
think
these
are
a
really
good
use
of
of
restricted
funds.
I
think
it's
a
great
way
to
leverage
those
funds
so
that
we
can
use
a
project
that
is
already
in
the
works
to
try
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
use
in
Luffy,
since
we
apparently
haven't
ever
had
to
do
that
before
I'm
also
elated,
that
the
arts
and
culture
commission
will
have
something
substantive
to
do
for
a
change.
F
I've
looked
at
a
number
of
of
their
agendas
and
they
frequently
consist
of
ratifying
the
minutes
and
looking
at
the
work
plan,
and
we
have
some
really
talented
people
in
the
arts
and
culture,
commission
and
I'd
love
to
see
them.
Do
something
really
good.
I
think
that
they'll
enjoy
looking
at
this
I'd
also
encourage
everyone
to
review
our
municipal
code
with
respect
to
what
is
and
isn't
considered
public
art
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
misstatements
that
have
been
made
with
respect
to
what
is
excluded
and
what
isn't
and
that's
it.
A
X
Thank
you
mayor.
Our
next
step
is
to
return
to
the
arts
and
culture
commission
with
a
proposal
we'll
be
coming
with
a
specific
proposal
about
how
we
would
propose
to
install
art
in
within
the
pellet
ground
area
specifically
and
we'll
need
to
have
some
conceptual
designs
to
share
with
the
commission.
Yeah.
A
A
X
E
E
X
I
may
the
designers
for
this
project
Mig
have
done
amazing
custom
installations
at
other
playgrounds.
If
you
look
at
their
website,
you
might
see
some
examples.
Our
plan
is
to
work
with
them
and
artists
that
they
know
and
that's
part
of
our
staying
on
schedule
and
budget
to
develop
the
custom
pieces.
So
that
will
be
part
of
what
we
will
be
presenting.
The
specifics
of
the
commission.
E
Could
we
possibly
engage
our
local
artists,
I?
Think
Although,
our
local
artists,
if
we
can
engage
them
to
present,
maybe
Cupertino
or
Santa
Clara
County
arrested
are
resident.
Artists
Can
can
Mig
especially
reach
out
to
them,
but
they
can
also
connect
with
Fine
Arts
commission
for
this
Outreach
right.
Thank.
E
A
A
A
B
Comment
go
ahead
when
I,
when
I
think
about
these.
These
playgrounds
with
regards
to
I
I
appreciate
the
the
idea
to
reaching
out
to
the
local
artists,
but
it
becomes
really
complicated
because
of
all
the
colors
that
you're
that
you're
looking
at
colors
and
textures
and
you've
got
a
lot
of
design
elements
that
they're
going
to
need
to
tie
in
so
I
don't
want
to
complicate
their
their
their
work.
E
A
C
A
A
T
We
do
not
have
a
staff
report,
we
do
have
interim
Public
Works
director
chat
mostly
here.
To
answer
any
questions.
The
ask
is
for
Council
to
consider
approving
the
semi-rule
destination
for
the
allocation
and
just
a
point
of
clarification
that
this
is
not
a
staff
recommendation.
Rather,
this
is
a
proposal
come
provided
by
the
property
owner
in
an
also
neighborhood,
so
staff
is
taking
the
property
owners
request
to
council
for
consideration.
A
V
Council
yeah,
yes,
that
can
be
done
as
part
of
these
development
projects.
The
city
is
still
requiring
Dedication.
That
would
facilitate
our
ability
to
install
sidewalks
at
a
future
date.
So
if
we
did
deem
this
area
a
semi-world
designation,
we
had
a
couple
of
projects
redeveloped
and
they
did
not
install
those
sidewalks.
The
city
would
have
the
ability
to
rescind
the
semi-rail
designation
and
we
would
have
the
ability
if
we
wanted
to
to
proceed
with
installation
of
sidewalk,
because
we
would
have
the
necessary
right-of-way
for
that.
V
A
C
D
E
I'm
confused
because
the
staff
report
here
reads
with
the
findings
presented
above
and
the
petition
the
property
owner.
Having
shown
their
support
for
the
proposed,
the
semi-rural
designation,
the
city
staff
recommends
approval
to
forego
the
future
installation
of
sidewalks
along
the
east
side
of
Carmen
Road
between
Scenic
Boulevard
and
Stevens
Creek
Boulevard.
The
semi-rural
designation
does
not
waive
the
requirement
for
curb
garter
or
street
light
installation.
So
it
is
the
city's
staff
recommendation
for
the
item
to
approve.
T
E
Okay
and
in
that
area,
I
remember:
I
visited
the
many
areas,
don't
have
sidewalk,
so
even
if
it's
going
to
be
a
property
owner
cost
and
it
will
likely
be
no
sidewalk
or
maybe
this
can
disconnected
sidewalk
for
many
years
to
come,
even
if
even
if
one
property
owner
maybe
have
did
a
renovation
and
have
to
install,
but
there
will
be
their
neighbors
might
not
move
for
another
30
years
through
the
mayor.
So
the.
T
T
E
T
U
The
city
manager
is
correct,
as
as
projects
have
larger
remodel
projects
on
the
on
the
site
they
they're
required
to
install
sidewalk
and
and
related
improvements.
It
does
lead
in
to
a
situation
where
we
have
sort
of
properties
that
are
adjacent
to
other
properties,
who
don't
have
the
improvements
and
the
intent
is
that
it
catches
up
over
time
and
we've
been
successful
with
that
in
some
locations
in
other
locations,
you'll
see
the
odd
house
that
doesn't
have
sidewalk,
where
the
adjacent
do
and
eventually
we'll
catch
up
with
all
of
them.
E
U
We
have
a
standard
for
sidewalk,
so
when
we
make
a
requirement
for
sidewalks
it
would
meet
the
city
standard
and
that
that's
what
you
would
see
in
a
you
know
normal
City
Block.
If
you
walked
outside
the
door
here
in
terms
of
a
wider
Street,
the
streets
have
evolved
over
time.
Sometimes
there's
there's
a
an
area
off
the
side
of
the
of
the
of
the
street.
That
is
paved
most
of
the
time.
A
A
V
A
V
A
V
B
B
J
Y
Thank
you
good
evening.
Madam
mayor
and
city
council
and
City
staff.
State
managers
hi,
my
name
is
Patrick
Clark
here
I've
been
living
at
the
1022
common
for
the
past
24
years.
I
am
the
one
who
circulated
all
the
petitions
to
all
the
neighborhoods
17
of
those
one
of
those
is
a
rental,
so
the
landlord
Mr
Baron
directly
sent
in
the
petition
supporting
the
semi
rule
as
it
is
right
now
we
have
about
65
houses
all
together
on
common
and
Scenic
of
the
east
side,
every
houses
on
this
common
and
Scenic.
Y
They
are
also
my
rule
except
the
11th
one
that
are
asking
the
petition,
all
the
houses
on
the
west
side
coming
in
from
Stevens
Creek
into
Janus
and
upcoming.
They
all
have
sidewalk
except
the
last
three
that
are
very
old.
So
when
they,
if
it
Remains
the
Same,
they
will
have
to
put
sidewalk
to
continuity,
to
finish
everything
on
the
West
Side
web
sidewalk.
If
these
three
houses
were
remodeled
so
far,
the
petitions
at
16
out
of
17
support
the
sidewalk
all
the
five
on
the
West
Side.
Y
But
as
far
as
the
west
side
is
concerned,
it
will
have
sidewalk
all
the
way
through
from
Foothill
from
a
service
Creek
up
Janus
and
into
our
common.
There
are
fire
houses
on
the
West
Side
three
of
those
already
have
sidewalk
the
other
three.
If
they
were
to
do
the
remodeling,
they
would
have
sidewalk.
So
a
good
continuation.
Also
I
walk
on
one
side
on
the
OSI
of
city
and
by
this
partition.
You
know
it's
very
consistent
with
the
neighborhood
on
the
east
side,
Scenic
and
common.
O
Many
of
as
many
of
you
know
he
served
on
our
city
council
for
many
years
and
highly
decorated
he's
he
knows
Cupertino
and
he
obviously
knows
his
own
neighborhood
and
I.
Think
it's
a
no-brainer
to
go
with.
Semi-Rural
I
I
live
in
Monte
Vista,
where
we
had
sidewalk
no
sidewalk
sidewalk,
no
sidewalk.
It's
been
a
mess
and
I
just
go
with
Patrick
and
and
I
I
can't
resist
to
make
the
pun,
but
with
respect
to
the
Carmen
Avenue
Bridge,
why
don't
we
cross
that
bridge
when
we
get
to
it?
K
Okay,
segue
from
magical
Bridge,
it
was
interesting,
seeing
the
actual
street
views
I'm
glad
that
Ms
Moore
brought
those
up
because
I
I
remember
that
area
so
well
from
growing
up.
We
call
that
huhu
Hill,
which
was
from
an
elderly
lady
from
many
many
years
ago,
used
to
call
it
that
the
who
who
house
was
up
there
and
Carmen.
Actually
there
was
I,
think
it
actually
you
if
I
remember
correctly
years
ago,
you
could
actually
use
that
road.
On
the
other
side,
it
wasn't
blocked
off.
K
I
may
have
the
wrong
road
there,
but
it
is
an.
It
is
a
unique
area.
I
think
it
was
part
of
inspiration
Heights
from
the
1920s
when
it
was
subdivided
Etc,
but
there
is
a
point
in
terms
of
having
some
continuity
in
the
area.
My
brother
owned
a
house
in
the
airport
District
of
Modesto
years
ago,
and
it's
a
very
poor
section
and
he
actually,
when
he
remodeled
the
house
he
had
a
sidewalk
put
in,
but
I
will
tell
you.
There
were
no
sidewalks
anywhere
else
in
the
entire
neighborhood.
It
was
gang-ridden.
K
It
still
is
it's
a
very
poor
area
and
when
he
finally,
he
kept
the
house
as
a
rental,
and
he
had
moved
to
a
different
home
with
my
sister-in-law
that
still
that
house
still
is
the
only
one
after
probably
30
years,
that
had
a
sidewalk,
so
he
was
trying,
but
but
all
in
all,
it's
probably
better
to
just
have
some
continuity
for
the
neighborhood
down
the
road.
Eventually
Public
Works
will
be
able
to
put
in
the
sidewalk
someday,
but
it's
probably
better
to
try
to
keep
the
neighbors
happy
with
consistency.
K
I'm
also
wondering
if
you're
going
to
be
putting
in
the
Carmen
Bridge
there
well
you're
going
to
have.
Obviously
cars
aren't
going
to
be
going
over
it,
but
we'll
you're
going
to
have
a
lot
of
foot
traffic
bicycles,
skateboards,
electric
vehicles,
Etc
going
down
that
street
to
go
over
the
Footbridge,
I
I!
Guess
it's
a
you'd
call
it
a
footbedge
because
it
doesn't
have
cars
on
it.
How
how
does
not
having
a
sidewalk
versus
having
a
sidewalk
effect?
K
K
J
P
Good
evening,
mayor
way
and
council
members
I'm
again
speaking
on
behalf
of
myself,
I
asked
something
different,
I
think
than
what
most
people
are
saying.
I
ask
that
you
postponed
voting
on
this
item.
The
reason
for
this
is
that
it's
likely
for
the
proposed
staff
work
plan
for
the
next
few
years
that
the
council
will
be
voting
on,
whether
to
build
the
Carmen
Bridge,
which
would
connect
the
neighborhoods
to
the
south
and
north
of
Stevens
Creek.
The
bridge
will
change
the
amount
and
then
I
think
a
couple.
P
P
One
note
is
that
bikes
do
use
sidewalks
all
kids
under
age,
13,
plus
their
parents,
with
them
bike
on
the
sidewalk
so
and
and
let's
face
facts,
sometimes
people
older
than
that.
Do
too
there's
no
rush
to
do
this
at
this
time,
and
no
sidewalk
projects
are
planned
on
that
street
by
the
city.
So
please
just
postpone
the
decision
until
it
seems
like
the
appropriate
time
and
then
once
we
know
all
the
facts,
the
real
decision
can
be
made
with
all
the
facts.
Q
Good
evening,
city
council
and
maybe
I
some,
what
agree
with
Jennifer
I
think
it
is
important
to
assess
safety
conditions
for
pedestrians
at
all
times
of
the
day
and
all
through
the
year
I'm
concerned.
The
staff
report
has
no
photographs
of
the
area
and
I'm
concerned.
There's
no
photographs
taken
at
Tusk
where
people
go
out
for
walks
in
the
neighborhood
and
no
photographs
at
winter
time.
Q
Q
We
have
school
kids
that
walk
down
some
of
these
roads,
I
see
them
all
the
time
on,
headed
towards
Stevens,
Creek
and
then
headed
up
towards
the
towards
the
shortcut
to
Modern,
Vista
and
so
on
and
I'd
be
concerned
about
visibility
come
evening
hours
and
why
don't
we
have
photographs
where
we
made
to
look
at
street
maps
and
not
look
at
actual
photographs
from
a
assessment
of
the
site?
I'm.
Also
concerned
that
the
cost
and
sidewalk
would
then
be
transferred
to
the
city
as
opposed
to
the
homeowners.
R
They
have
different,
looks
and
I've
been
on
Carmen
Road
and
it
is
a
semi-rural
place
and
if,
at
some
other
time
you
decide
that
you
need
sidewalks
there,
you
have
the
ability
to
do
that,
but
until
then
preserve
the
look
of
the
neighborhood
by
allowing
all
the
people
on
the
east
side
who
want
to
be
semi-rural
to
stay
that
way.
It
has
a
soft,
it's
a
very
relaxing
feel
and
in
that
neighborhood
I
have
not
seen
people
the
the
street
is
narrow
and
I
did
not
see
people
racing
through.
R
Of
course,
I
haven't
been
there
all
times
a
day,
but
I
think
you
need
to
also
preserve
the
ability
for
different
neighborhoods
to
be
unique.
We
aren't
all
the
same.
Just
like
people
aren't
the
same.
Allow
them
to
be
unique
so
that
we
can
walk
through
our
our
city
and
experience
these
different
neighborhoods.
A
B
V
V
Y
Way
it
is
now
is
that
it
runs
into
that
end
straight,
so
people
who
live
around
in
here
they
are
residents.
They
know.
Safety
is
a
concern,
so
they
would
not
risk
to
speed
the
car
all
the
way
Express
you're
going
down.
Quinterra
is
a
very
narrow
Street
if
they
speed.
You
know
this
morning.
I
saw
a
garbage
pickup,
you
know
it
was
so
steep
down
in
Quintana
is
common.
Y
They
have
to
back
the
garbage
truck
all
the
way
they
were
not
because
there's
no
way
to
to
use
to
answer
your
question
it
is
people
will
not
speak
because
number
one
they
live
in
the
neighborhood.
They
are
not
people
who
who
are
lost
looking
for
something
they
are
familiar
with.
They
are
know
that
the
people
are
running
here.
They
know
that
they
are
safe.
They
are
kids
in
here.
V
The
you
know
the
neighborhood
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
twists.
It
is
along
a
hillside.
It
should
be
noted
that
this
section
of
Carmen
Road
is
on
a
no
Outlet
area
there
for
for
vehicle
traffic.
That
is
it's
kind
of
a
dead
end
stretch.
It
goes
in
serves
around
20
properties
and
that's
those
are
the
only
properties
that
are
served
by
this
section
of
Road.
Okay,.
E
Okay,
so
first
I'd
like
to
thank
the
staff
for
a
very
detailed
staff
report.
It
answered
on
every
one
of
my
questions
that
I
would
have
asked,
so
it
could
consider
idea
compliance
and
the
possibility
of
considering
Common
Road,
and
you
answered
that
this
designation
can
be
resented
by
the
city
at
the
time
and
the
street
light
got
her.
Every
question
is
answered
really
appreciate
a
thorough
report.
E
It
would
have
been
nice
if
there
were
photographs
of
the
area
and
the
areas
where
it's
always
outside
work,
but
it's
just
very
thorough
report
and
it
says
that
the
proposed
the
semi
rural
area
is
similar
in
character
to
the
surrounding
neighborhood
and
I.
Looked
up
the
Google
map
again,
although
I
visited
the
area
before
that,
is
a
dead
end
street.
E
So
I
understand
the
San
RS
concerned
that,
if
especially
around
school,
when
cars
passing
through,
but
this
is
an
area-
that's
a
dead
end
and
even
if
a
common
bridge
is
built
in
the
future,
it's
going
to
be
a
pedestrian
bicycle
Bridge.
There
won't
be
any
through
traffic,
so
there
won't
be
car
zooming
by
there
might
be
bicycles,
but
I
think
the
40
feet
is
wide
enough
for
pedestrians
and
bicycle
English
trees,
that's
real!
That
has
relatively
little
car
traffic
except
the
neighbors
who
live
there.
So
it
sounds
like
then,
even
with
common
Bridge.
E
I
do
agree
that
we
should
allow
Cupertino
to
have
different
neighborhoods
to
have
different
characters.
So
we
should
not
expect
every
neighborhood
to
have
sidewalk
in
all
of
Cupertino.
That's
simply
unrealistic
and
would
not
allow
different
areas
of
Cupertino
to
have
its
own
neighborhood
character.
Maybe
some
area
will
be
Rural
semi-rural-like,
and
that
makes
that's
diversity
that
makes
Cupertino
great,
so
I
would
Embrace
that
yeah.
Thank
you.
I
I
Although
there
was
I,
think
kids
were
still
going
to
Crossing,
Stevens
Creek,
so
I
didn't
have
any
concerns
about
traffic
staff
was
able
to
in
their
staff
report
as
well
as
in
my
conversations
with
them,
did
confirm
that
there
would
not
be
it
would
not
interfere
with
garbage
pickup
or
fire
hydrants
or
or
even
the
future
construction
of
the
Common
Road
Bridge.
So
I'm
good
with
this
recommendation,
also
with
the
understanding
that
it
could
be
rescinded
anytime,
there's
a
another
event
that
does
not
make
this
convenient
any
longer.