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Coverage of the December 24, 2021 Cupertino Planning Commission Teleconference Meeting.
A
A
C
Good
evening,
everybody
welcome
to
the
holiday
edition
of
the
planning
commission.
We
are
meeting
on
december
14
2021
and
before
we
begin
we'll
do
a
roll
call
and
all
that
fun
stuff,
but,
as
you
know,
given
the
current
conditions,
this
is
a
virtual
meeting
and
of
course,
under
the
governor's
orders,
you
know
these.
These
are
virtual
meetings.
These
are
teleconference
meeting
procedures
and,
of
course,
we'll
take
any
oral
public
comments
during
the
teleconference
comments
can
be
made
during
oral
communication.
C
E
C
F
Yeah
great,
so
thank
you
everyone,
so
I
just
wanted
to
take
a
second
to
introduce
the
members
of
the
commission
and
the
public
to
michael
lew,
who
has
recently
joined
the
city
as
senior
assistant
city
attorney.
F
Is
anybody
else
having
problems
hearing
me?
Okay,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead,
and
hopefully
michael
can
figure
it
out.
So
he's
recently
joined
this
the
city
as
senior
assistant
city
attorney.
He
has
joined
us
from
the
city
of
berkeley
where
he
was
a
deputy
city
attorney
for
over
20
years
and
a
valued
colleague
of
mine
there
and
we're
happy
to
have
him
here.
F
We
are
in
a
transition
process
where
he
will
be
taking
primary
responsibility
for
supporting
the
planning,
commission
and
planning
commission
staff
staff
with
respect
to
these
meetings,
and
so
we're
obviously
both
here
tonight,
but
I
just
wanted
to
introduce
him
and
and
make
sure
that
everybody
on
the
commission
and
members
of
the
public
were
aware
of
the
transition
so
and,
of
course,
to
welcome
him
to
cupertino.
So
so.
Thank
you,
michael.
G
Hey
michael
welcome
so
chris
yeah,
is
he
the
one
that
berkeley
mayor
was
complaining
about
that
we
are
pulling.
G
C
Michael
welcome
congratulations
for
being
here
and
thank
you
and
it's
good
to
have
a
risk
management
folk
person
with
the
risk
management
background,
we'll
need
that
as
well,
and,
of
course,
you
know
thank
you
for
being
here,
so
welcome.
Welcome,
mikey
my
pleasure.
Thank
you
very
much
very
cool
and
then
before
we
begin
on
oral
communications
and
minutes
as
well
pew,
we
want
to
take
the
time
to
recognize
some
of
our
wonderful
staff.
That's
been
with
us
and
some
have
left
as
well
and
pew.
H
Sure
so,
we've
actually
had
three
planners
leave
us.
This
year,
we've
had
most
recently
we've
had
eric
serrano,
who
was
a
senior
planner
with
us.
He
joined
us.
He
joined
a
private
planning,
consultancy
firm
after
having
worked
at
cupertino
for
seven
years.
He
joined
the
city
as
an
associate
as
an
associate
planner
and
has
worked
on
multiple
projects,
including
the
marina
project,
public
storage,
canyon
crossings
and
the
dark
sky
ordinance.
H
I
also
wanted
to
recognize
laura
nikovich
assistant
planner,
who
was
with
the
city
for
a
little
over
a
year
and
a
half.
She
worked
on
many
single-family
residential
projects,
and
it
was
quite
apparent
that
she
was
she
had
a
bright
career
ahead
of
her
in
planning,
but
the
pandemic
helped
her
realize
that
she
wanted
to
be
closer
to
a
family
in
oregon,
and
so
she
moved
on
from
cupertino.
H
We
wish
all
of
them
the
very
best
and
finally,
and
not
least
of
all,
we
also
lost
our
longtime
administrative
assistant,
our
deputy
board
clerk
beth
eben,
who
retired
earlier
this
year.
She
worked
for
the
city
for
19
years,
16
of
them
here
with
the
planning
department,
and
you
know
wanted
to
recognize
all
the
people
that
have
kind
of
moved
on
from
the
city.
We've
lost
many
planners,
but
we've
also
gained
some
new
planners,
so
you'll
be
seeing
many
of
them
in
the
many
projects
that
they'll
bring
to
the
planning
commission.
H
Some
of
them
include
luke,
connolly,
who's
joined
us
as
a
senior
planner.
We've
also
had
aj
haas
who's
joined
us
as
an
assistant,
planner
and
brianne
harkusha
who's,
an
associate
planner
with
the
city.
With
that.
I
just
pass
it
over
to
you,
chair,
wong,.
C
Hey
thanks
a
lot.
Congratulations
to
all
those
folks.
This
is
what
we
call
the
great
refactoring
as
people
figure
out
their
work,
life
balance
and
figure
out
what
they
want
to
do
next,
but
congratulations
on
bringing
some
new
folks
into
the
cupertino
planning
department.
So
with
that,
let's
go
to
the
minutes
so
yeah.
So
we
are
going
to
minutes.
Subject:
approval
the
november
23rd
planning
commission
meeting
minutes
recommended
action
approved
november
23rd
planning,
commission
minutes.
Commissioners
get
a
chance.
C
If
you
haven't
read
the
minutes,
let's
take
a
look,
a
moment
go
through
them
and
if
somebody
has,
you
know
make
the
motion
to
approve
the
minutes.
Please
go
ahead
and
feel
free
to
do
so.
I've
also
got
a
quick
note
from
vice
chair
sharp
he's
trying
to
get
in
having
some
bandwidth
issues
so
we'll
see
if
he
joins
in.
C
Okay,
cool
any
comments,
any
discussions,
any
corrections
that
we
need
to
make
they
look
right.
C
Okay,
with
that
all
right,
let's
call
for
a
vote.
G
E
A
C
Okay,
all
right
with
that
we're
going
to
go
to
oral
communications.
This
is
the
portion
of
the
meeting
reserved
for
meet
persons
wishing
to
address
the
commission
on
any
matter
within
the
jurisdiction
of
the
commission
and
not
on
the
agenda.
You've
got
three
minutes.
In
most
cases,
state
laws
will
prevent,
prohibit
the
commission
from
making
any
decisions
with
respect
to
matters
not
on
the
agenda.
So
with
that,
let's
see
if
we
have
any
oral
communications
and
let's
turn
to
our
public.
J
Thank
you
happy
holidays.
Everyone
thanks
to
pew
for
talking
about
all
the
staff
members
we've
had.
I
just
always
am
so
glad
and
grateful
for
all
the
people
that
we've
had
working
for
the
city.
It's
it's
been
a
very,
very
difficult.
Two
years,
cupertino
has
lots
of
adventures,
but
we're
always
very
very
glad
for
all
the
staff
that
we
had
and
good
luck
to
all
the
staff
members
who
have
departed.
J
I'm
sorry
that
sounds
bad.
Who
have
moved
on
to
other
positions.
We
wish
them
well
and
happy
holidays
to
everybody
stay
safe.
Thank
you.
C
Thank
you
jennifer.
I
don't
see
any
other
hands
raised
and
if
you're
going
do
you
have
you
have
a
comment?
Raise
your
hands.
We'll
give
you
some
time
any
written
communication,
sarah,
okay,
we
have
no
written
communications
as
well.
Okay
with
that,
let's
go
on
to
our
main
agenda
item
number
two:
okay,
public
hearing
item
number
two
consider
development
and
architectural
and
site
approval
permits
that
would
allow
the
replacement
of
seven
storage
buildings
with
three
new
buildings
between
one
and
three
stories
in
height
to
allow
for
a
166,
845
square
feet.
C
Storage
facility,
consider
a
fence,
exception,
request
to
electronic
vehicular
gates
and
a
tree
removal
permit
request
to
allow
the
removal
and
replacement
of
eight
protected
trees.
The
applicant
numbers,
as
you
can
see,
dp
20,
1905,
asa,
20,
1905,
exc,
201904
and
tr2019048,
and
that's
our
application,
emilia
samudia
and
from
jordan,
architects
and
the
location
is
at
10655
mary
avenue.
The
recommended
action
staff
recommends
that
the
planning
commission,
in
accordance
with
draft
resolutions
which
are
attachments
one
through
four,
recommends
that
the
city
council
won,
find
the
project
exempt
from
sequa
two
approve
the
development.
Permit.
C
H
K
Thank
you
pew,
and
that
was
quick.
Okay,
so
thank
you.
Cheer
wong
and
thank
you
pew
again,
john
martier
senior
planner
community
development
department.
So
give
me
two
seconds
to
get
my.
C
And
while
you're
doing
that,
if
we
get
a
chance,
we
can
promote
vice
church
charities
in
the
attending
eu
list.
K
All
right
did
everyone
hear
me:
okay,
all
right
great,
so
hi
again,
so
this
is
the
as
as
introduced
by
chair
wong.
This
is
the
lock
and
store
slash
bayer
self
storage
site
on
mary
avenue.
I
use
both
names
lock
and
store
the
previous
name
and
barrier
self
storage.
Is
the
proposed
name
going
forward
again?
The
subject
was
already
read
by
the
by
the
chair,
so
the
project
location
is
an
existing.
Approximately
four
acre
site,
which
has
seven
single-story
storage
storage
facility
storage.
Building.
K
Excuse
me
within
an
existing
again
facility,
surrounded
by
mix
of
uses,
particularly
on
the
east
side.
It's
single-family
residential
on
the
south
is
the
city
of
cupertino's
courtyard,
and
on
the
west
and
north
you
have
highways
85
and
highway
280
respectively,
and
one
more
thing
you
also
have
the
mary
avenue
bridge,
which
will
be
which
we
will
be
discussing
a
little
further
going
forward.
K
Especially
we
talk
about
the
the
the
eastman
on
that
side
of
the
property,
so
the
proposed
changes
again
is
the
construction
of
three
new
buildings
between
one
and
three
stories:
totaling
153
320
square
feet,
which
is
approximately
95
000
square
feet.
K
More
than
what's
there
already
replacement
of
the
existing
manager's
apartment
and
office
sales
area,
both
of
which
are
of
equal
size
of
1200
square
feet,
construction
of
a
new
trash
enclosure,
replacement
of
an
electronic
vehicle
gate,
new
six
story,
I'm
sorry,
six
story:
six
foot
tall,
rock
iron
fence
located
along
the
eastern
and
southern
property
lines
and
updated
landscaping
along
the
front
end
of
the
property
line,
including
the
large
landscape
area
between
the
proposed
structures
and
condominiums.
K
So
what
we
have
here
that
are
the
existing
buildings
and
proposed
this
ca.
This
will
give
you
a
nice
bird's
eye
view
and
perspective
of.
What's
what
the
changes
are?
K
K
Building
a
which
is
right
in
the
middle
is
the
three-story
building
building
b,
which
is
a
two-story
building
along
the
southern
edge
and
building
c,
which
is
the
two-story
between
one
to
two-story
buildings
along
the
the
eastern
edge
of
the
site,
which
includes
the
office
and
managers
unit.
And
then
you
have
building
d,
which
is
the
existing
facility,
which
will
just
be
upgraded
but
won't
be
demolished,
and
it
will
be
the
last
remaining
building.
That's
going
to
be
on
the
site.
K
Okay,
so
building
a
here's,
the
it's
just
basically
a
perspective
of
it
from
from
the
north.
As
you
can
see,
the
the
tallest
portions
of
the
building
is
about
30
feet
with
the
parapet,
acting
as
an
architectural
feature
to
to
mask
any
type
of
rooftop
equipment,
adding
another
foot
on
top
of
that.
But
generally
it's
about
30
feet
above
above
grade
and
again
located
right
in
the
middle
of
the
of
the
of
the
project
site.
Building
b
is
again.
K
It's
generally
around,
I
would
say
approximately
23
to
26
feet
as
highest
points
along
the
southern
edge
adjacent
to
the
city
of
cupertino's
courtyard
and
again,
the
pro
you
know
when,
when
the
applicant
came
in
to
discuss
the
proposal
staff,
one
of
the
one
of
the
comments
that
came
in
through
one
of
the
public
outreach
efforts
and
also
from
us,
is
to
have
the
highest
buildings
in
the
middle
of
the
project,
to
kind
of
not
not
to
overwhelm
the
public,
especially
with
the
vehicle
on
the
right
away.
K
So
it
would
be
a
gradual
change
to
go
up
rather
than
have
the
tallest
tallest
portions
on
the
along
the
right
away.
Focus
them
on
the
middle
of
the
site,
then
we
have
building
c
that's
right
here.
This
is
the
building
that's
closest
to
the
right-of-way,
along
the
closest
to
the
mary
avenue
bridge
trail
and
as
well
as
the
proposed
new
trail
on
site
on
the
eastern
edge.
K
This
is
a
great
perspective
because
it
kind
of
shows
you
what
someone
would
see
coming
down
going
up
mary
avenue
in
that
area
in
the
garden
gate
area,
and
so
this
gives
again,
the
color
portion
is
the
closest
building
building
building
c.
But
in
the
re,
sorry
in
the
rear,
you
can
see
what
building
a
would
look
like
and
as
building
b
from
mary
avenue.
K
Development
standards,
one
of
the
things
about
bq,
mini
storage,
which
is
which
is
the
zoning
district,
is
that
there
aren't
set
setbacks
within
that
planned
development
zoning.
So
what
we
did
was
what
what
staff
and
the
the
the
the
applicant
had
done
was
work
together
to
find,
at
least
you
know
the
great
the
greatest
setbacks
we
can
without
being
as
intrusive
to
the
neighboring
single
family,
residential
zones
and
whatnot.
K
So
we
we
found
that
a
front
step
back
of
40
feet
was
was
best
from
the
from
that
front
property
line,
as
well
as
a
side
five
feet.
That's
along
the
the
southern
border.
Southern
property
line.
Excuse
me
with
against
the
courtyard
the
rear
has
a
zero
foot
setback.
However,
that's
the
existing
building,
which
will
not
be
removed
or
demolished
just
upgraded
one
of
the
other
standards
as
well
that
we
that's
not
part
of
this
used
class
in
19124
parking
is
storage
facilities.
K
So
there
was
a
parking
study
in
traffic
study
that
was
completed
and
found
that
20
20
spaces
would
be
sufficient
for
this
type
of
use.
However,
the
applicant's
proposing
it
to
40
and
double
what
what
the
the
traffic
study
has
recommended
as
being
sufficient
to
for
the
traffic
generation
and
the
parking
generation
parking
demand
for
this
site
connectivity.
K
So
one
of
the
one
of
the
conditions
of
approval
for
this
is
that
there
will
be
a
20
foot
wide
easement
to
the
city
for
future
future
multi-use
trail
facility
along
the
east
side
of
the
property.
This
will
connect
the
I
believe
it's
going
to
be
called
the
newport
sarah
trail
that
that
goes
adjacent
to
280
from
east
to
west,
and
this
trail
in
this
20-foot
porsche
20-foot
wide
portion
would
eventually
connect
that
juniper
so
trail
up
into
the
mary
avenue
bridge.
K
So
you
have
that
good
connection
from
going
east-
or
you
know
from
you,
know,
from
wolf,
road
or
danza
boulevard.
Where
do
you
connect
on
to
going
up
up
into
mary
avenue,
bridge
and
well
I'll
have
an
exhibit
to
show
you
where
that's
going
to
be
located,
ingress
egress
season
for
trail,
maintenance,
access,
construction
event,
access
easement
and
these
again
the
easements
intended
to
provide
access
to
point
to
a
future.
I
280
trail,
which
I
believe
is
called
the
sarah
trail.
K
If
you
can
correct
me,
if
I'm
wrong
with
the
name
of
that
there,
we
go
got
that
one
right,
okay,
so
here
so
here's
the
site,
the
site
plan
right
here.
The
blue
arrow
right
here
shows
the
direction
of
the
trail.
As
you
can
see.
K
If
you
can
see
my
cursor,
here's
the
the
the
future
trail
along
the
the
drainage
by
280
going
from
east
to
west,
and
then
I
think,
verging
south
towards
mary
avenue,
and
this
is
where
that
20-foot
wild
easement
would
be,
and,
as
you
can
see,
the
red
arrow
is
the
direction
as
the
mirror.
The
existing
mary
avenue
trail
to
the
miramu
bridge
would
be
right
there.
So
you
would
have
this
connection
right
here.
K
Tree
removal
replacement
so
there's
eight
protected
development,
trees
on
site
that
included
red
iron,
bark
eucalyptus,
chinese
pistache
and
the
tree
of
heaven.
The
applicant
is
proposing
to
replace
it
with
seven
36-inch
box
blood
good
london
plane
in
one
24-inch
box,
chinese
pistache.
These
would
be
adjacent
to
the
future.
20
foot
easement
perfect
wide
easement
on
the
eastern
portion
of
the
site.
K
The
effects
defense
exception
has
replaced
the
existing
security
gate.
The
gate
is
located
approximately
65
feet
from
the
property
line
between
buildings,
b
and
c
right
at
the
entrance
environment
review.
Oh,
why
is
the
eir
excuse
me?
A
project
is
categorically
exempt
from
requirements
of
sequa
as
an
in-field
development
project,
15332
secret
guidelines.
15-3-2.
K
We
do
have
our
environmental
consultant
here
who
put
together
the
the
this.
The
category
over
exemption
memo,
tara,
terry
from
place,
works,
jeremy,
kraken
from
place,
works
and
conclusions.
That
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
project
since
the
project
condition
of
approval
addressed
all
concerns
related
to
proposed
development
and
all
the
fines
for
approval
of
the
proposed
project
consisted
with
chapters
19156
19168,
1948
and
14.18
of
the
cooperation
municipal
code
may
be
made
one
correction
again.
K
This
would
be
a
recommendation
for
approval
to
city
council,
as
this
will
have
to
go
to
city
council.
One
correction
to
development.
Permit
resolution
condition
number
11..
The
crossout
language
was
was
inadvertently
added
in
there.
It
should
read
what
is
underlined,
so
this
portion
of
the
condition
read
the
applicant
shall
obtain
lead
silver
certification
or
an
alternative
reference
standard
in
accordance
with
the
ordinance,
since
the
project
proposes
adding
more
than
50
000
square
feet
and
that's
in
the
in
accordance
that's
consistent
with
our
chapter
16.
K
C
Thanks
john,
let's
see
if
anybody
has
any
questions
to
jump
in.
C
Go
ahead,
vicerf
great
to
see
you
please
go
ahead
and
we'll
go
to
commissioner.
L
C
L
K
So
my
understanding
is
that
the
the
existing
gate
was
never
approved
with
an
exception.
Our
or
our
fence.
Offense
ordinance
requires
that
any
type
of
mechanical
gate
requires
a
fence
exception.
So
this
essentially
would
retroactively
legalize
the
one.
That's
there
and
then
well,
not
the
one.
That's
there,
but
at
least
go
through
the
proper
channels,
proper
process
to
approve
a
mechanical
gate.
C
Nice
little
ameristart
and
passgate
there,
commissioner
mighty
pilot,
go
ahead.
G
G
So
it's
cause,
that's
how
it
goes
from.
You
know:
59
000
square
feet.
You
know
built
area
to
you
know
three
times
by
the
three
floors,
roughly
okay,
approximately
and
so
the
only
exception
being
started.
Is
you
know
the
one
that
you
just
described
about
the
gate
right,
correct
yeah?
So
I
yeah
no,
I
write
on
that
bridge.
You
know
every
week
so
right
now
we
know
what
exists.
There
is
not
visible
right.
G
C
Okay
thanks,
commissioner,
anyone
else
all
right,
I've
got
two
questions.
One
is
related
to
parking.
Currently,
there's
about
29
spots
seems
to
be
mostly
rvs
and
trailers
parked.
There
could
be
up
to
58
spots
of
parking,
and
my
question
was
really
what
what
is
the
operator
an
owner
going
to
be
doing
in
terms
of
the
rvs
and
the
parking
situation
there
and
then
the
second
one
is
the
tree
placement,
and
this
is
just
a
pet
peeve
of
mine.
I
have
no
freaking
idea
why
we
keep
planting
trees
underneath
power
lines.
C
That's
probably
the
worst
combination
and
I
ever
see-
and
I
walked
through
that
facility.
I
walked
up
and
down
the
mary
trail
and,
like
these
trees
are
like
going
to
be
freaking
under
power
lines
again.
So
I'm
hoping
we
can
minimize
that,
because
you
know
we
keep
planting
trees,
they
keep
consuming
tons
of
water.
I
know
we
need
trees
but
like
when
they
get
stuck
in
the
middle
of
a
storm.
C
Take
down
power,
that's
like
we're
asking
for,
and
it's
like
a
self-inflicted
wound,
so
I'm
just
trying
to
think
we
can
just
avoid
placement
of
those
replacement,
trees
under
any
power
lines,
and
there
is
a
big
ass
power
line
coming
through
there.
So
that's
why
I'm
saying
that,
so
anybody
can
answer
those
two
questions
and.
K
K
But
again
I
think
they'll
be
the
ones
that
better
answer
that
one
in
terms
of
the
trees.
You
know
it's
within
the
planning
commission's
purview
to
recommend
to
council
that
you
know
staff
you
know
consider
you
know.
C
M
Yeah
thanks,
thank
you
for
having
us
appreciate
it
and
then
bruce
jordan
is
our
architect
as
well.
So
all
three
of
us
are
here
from
the
application
side,
so
those
existing
rv
parking
stalls
are
actually
under
the
high
voltage
power
lines
that
are
out
there
and
there's
a
there's,
an
80
foot
easement
that
pg
e
currently
has
so
we're
not
allowed
to
build
any
structures
in
that
easement.
So
that's
why
the
rv
parking
is
located
where
it
is
so,
unfortunately,
there's
not
really
much.
M
We
can
do
with
that
area
other
than
keep
it
rv
parking.
So
that's!
That's
our
current
our
current
intention,
unless
pg
e
moves
those
lines
at
some
point
which
I
don't
ever
see
happening,
but
we're
we're
happy
to
move
trees
around
we
do
it
all
the
time
to
keep
them
up
from
you
know
growing.
Underneath
those
lines,
the
good
news
about
those
lines
is
they're,
as
you
know
way
up
in
the
air.
M
C
L
Sorry
so
chair
wong
raised
a
good
point:
what
is
preventing
people
from
living
in
rvs
there?
I
know
we're
starting
to
see
this
issue
throughout
cupertino
now
we're
and
we
have
not
yet
passed
an
ordinance
on
it
regarding
people
living
in
rvs
on
the
street,
and
I
believe
I,
if
I
recall
correctly,
this
storage
facility
actually
had
somebody
pass
away
in
one
of
the
units
many
years
ago.
So
we
need
to
ensure
that
people
are
not
living
there.
C
L
M
Yeah
you,
you
guys
know
more
than
I
do
about
the
the
death.
We've
only
had
this
facility
for
for
three
years.
They
didn't
tell
us
about
the
ghost
out
there
when
we
purchased
it
but
anyways.
We
we
like
to
pride
ourselves
on
our
our
nine
facilities
in
the
bay
area
that
that
we
manage
them
with
with
high
security
and
and
we
we
keep
control
of
our
tenants.
M
You
know
each
unit
is
a
tenant
of
ours,
so
we
we
like
to
know
what
they're
doing
and
what
they're
storing
so
so
we
definitely
keep
an
eye.
We
have
security
cameras
all
around
the
facility,
so
we've
never
had
an
issue
with
with
anybody
living
on
our
on
our
site.
So
we'll
we'll
continue
that
operation
on
this
side
as
well.
C
Great
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Let's
go
to
bruce
jordan,
but
let's
go
to
pew
first
pew,
there's
something
you
want
to
jump
in.
H
I
just
did
want
to
clarify
that
in
the
buq
zone
the
uses
that
are
allowed
are
the
ones
that
we're
authorizing.
In
this
particular
case.
The
use
that
we're
authorizing
is
a
storage
facility
and
we're
not
aware
of
any
uses
authorizing
the
storage
of
rv
vehicles
on
the.
C
Property,
okay,
good
to
know
all
right,
we'll
throw
that
back,
we'll
go
to
bruce
jordan!
Please
go
ahead
so
and
your
mute.
If
you're
gonna
mute
yourself,
please
spacebar
or
the
speaker
sign.
B
Good
evening,
mr
chairman,
members
of
the
commission,
my
name
is
bruce
jordan,
I'm
the
architect
for
the
project
and
first
off
I'd
like
to
very
much
compliment
your
city
staff
and
planners
and
working
with
us
all
the
way
through
this
to
resolve
a
number
of
issues.
I
think
we've
successfully
done
so
I
would
I
visited
the
city
as
we
started.
Designing.
B
One
of
the
first
things
that
occurred
to
me
is
is
to
screen
all
the
loading
activity,
so
we
took
great
care
in
in
doing
that
and
protecting
the
residents
across
the
street
on
the
east
side,
and
we
knew
that
it
was
going
to
be
best
to
put
the
the
center
building
as
the
high
building
does
the
building
see
when
you're
in
a
car
or
walking,
or
it's
going
to
tend
to
screen
off
the
top
of
that
building
just
due
to
the
sight
lines.
B
So
I
I
have
measured
some
of
the
distances
from
building
a
which
is
the
three-story
building
to
the
property
line,
which
is
92
feet
at
the
minimum.
So
it's
quite
a
bit
and
it's
197
feet
from
the
face
the
east
face
of
a
to
the
curb
across
the
street.
So
that's
a
long
distance.
There's
a
lot
of
separation
to
those
resonance
there.
B
So
building
c
will
act
as
an
acoustical
screen.
It's
going
to
keep
things
quiet.
It's
going
to
screen
all
the
loading
activity,
so
it's
all
contained
on
site.
We're
not
going
to
have
any
light
bleed
over
we're,
not
going
to
need
that.
We
will
have
light
that
will
be
all
cut
off
fixtures
and
so
forth.
The
facility
will
be
closed
at
night.
B
So
we've
literally
designed
hundreds
of
these
next
to
residential
communities
and
a
lot
of
the
residential
communities
come
back
to
us
afterwards
and
say:
well,
that's
one
of
the
most
quiet
neighbors
I've
ever
had.
So
we
know
that
this
land
use
works
very
compatibly
with
with
residential
we
have
a
little
over
half
an
acre.
B
I
think
it's
point
five,
six
acres
of
landscaping,
so
we
got
quite
a
bit
of
screening
going
on
here
and
we
feel
that
that
that's
the
right
way
to
do
it
and
create
that
streetscape
along
mary
there.
B
All
of
our
areas
that
feed
the
elevators
to
go
up
to
the
second
and
third
floor
are
closed
and
tucked
under
the
buildings.
You
don't
have
trucks
out
there
visible
and
so
forth.
They're
all
tucked
into
you
know
the
loading
areas
that
are
covered
and
screened
so
keeps
the
noise
to
a
minimum,
keeps
the
visuals
best
and
so
forth.
So
I
think,
after
working
with
the
planners
and
paying
attention
to
everything,
that's
going
on
around
the
site.
I
think
this
is
the
right
solution
for
it
and
I
would
like
to
agree.
B
We
design
a
lot
of
rv
facilities
and
one
of
the
things
that's
very
strong
with
management
we
do
not
allow
anybody
to
live
there.
No
manager
that
I
know
of
does
the
security
is
very
strong.
B
B
So
with
that
I'll
close.
If
you
have
any
questions,
I'd
be
happy
to
to
answer
them.
C
Okay,
no
problem
vice
chair,
oh.
L
F
So
so
I'm
going
to
jump
in
briefly
I
mean
that
so
so
so
the
rv
storage
is
an
existing
use
of
the
property.
You
know,
and
I
I
don't
you
know
we
would
have
to
look
at
exactly.
You
know
why
that
use
was
allowed.
F
I
don't
have
that
information
in
front
of
me
now,
but
it
doesn't
appear
that
it
would
be
directly
impacted
by
this
application,
which
is
leaving
that
building
in
the
northwest
side
of
the
site
next
to
the
rv
storage
in
place,
and
primarily
you
know,
and
primarily
impacting
the
other
buildings
on
the
you
know
remaining.
Okay,
probably.
H
Certainly
so
at
this
point,
the
application
is
mainly
for
the
replacement
of
the
buildings.
The
rv
uses
are
where
they
are,
but
we
have
not
reviewed
the
previous
approvals
to
see
whether
rv
parking
was
approved
as
a
use
on
the
site.
C
L
L
Wondered
about
yeah-
and
I
know
in
some
cities
that
cupertino
is
not
one
of
them,
but
I
think
in
saratoga
you
can't
even
park
an
rv
in
front
of
your
house
all
right.
Thank
you.
C
E
So
just
to
understand,
even
though
it's
sort
of
not
related
to
the
permit
of
the
building
shouldn't,
we
be
streamlining
and
making
sure
that
the
parking
also
is
like
approved
as
a
part
of
this
plan,
or
because
it's
like
I'm
just
curious
about
whether
we
should
be
linking
those
two
or
whether
we
can
completely
unlink.
Those
two.
F
F
That
is,
you
know,
you
know
vested
regardless
of
whether
it
is
approved
or
not,
and
my
understanding
is
that
you
know
is
the
application
before
you
is
not
to
change
that
particular
use
of
the
area
under
the
power
lines,
that's
correct,
and,
and
so
that
that
is
going
to
remain
the
same,
and
my
understanding
of
that
is,
the
legal
status
will
remain
the
same.
B
If
I
could
just
clarify
on
the
parking
you
know,
we
did
a
parking
demand
analysis
based
on
the
iep
generation
rate
for
self
storage
and
the
peak
p.m.
Hour
came
up
to
19
vehicles,
so
the
city's
position
was
have
21,
spartans
parking
spaces
and
we
have
41.
We
have
way
more
than
is
required
and
we
have
several
projects
larger
than
this
all
over
the
bay
area,
with
less
parking
and
there's
no
problem.
This
is
more
than
adequate
parking.
C
Bruce
bruce,
actually,
let's,
let's
not,
let
me
make
sure
that
we're
not
confusing
issues
here,
there's
additional
parking
that
you
guys
have
placed
there,
which
is
above
that
what's
required
and
that's
the
40
some
parking
spaces
there
is
the
rv
parking.
That's
in
the
easement,
that's
not
being
considered
in
this
application
that
I
counted,
which
was
the
29
parking
spaces
that
can
double
up
right.
So
everybody
knows
what
we're
looking
at
here,
so
so
they're
two
different
things
there.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that's
clarified
and
everybody
has
that
there.
G
So
so
john,
can
you
put
up
the
diagram?
I
want
to
see
where
the
the
40
parking
spaces
are
going
right.
So
it's
not
clear
from
the
diagrams
that
I've
seen.
C
M
C
Okay
with
that,
this
doesn't
look
with
any
other
questions
on
the
commission's
side
yet
and
let's
put
it
over
to
our
public.
So
let's
turn
over
to
our
public.
We've
got
tom
buchanan,
I
think
you're
on
with
the
team
and
then
of
course,
jenny,
griffin,
so
jennifer
griffin
tom,
please
go
ahead,
got
three
minutes.
C
Oh
tom,
if
you're
going
to
mute,
you've
got
three
minutes.
If
you
can't
immune
in
time
I'll
give
you
like
10
seconds,
I
will
go.
N
Over
to
you
you're
there,
hey
sorry,
sorry,
thank
you!
So
much
and
and
good
evening,
tom
buchanan,
my
house
is
on
nathanson
avenue
it.
The
back
of
my
house,
butts
directly
onto
the
the
wonderful
bike
path
that
you
guys
put
in
there.
Four
things.
First,
off
a
30
foot
building
behind
my
house,
there
is
quite
jarring
to
me.
N
N
I
believe
the
architect
mentioned
that
that
it
will
be
closed
at
night.
I
would
want
to
verify
that
and
having
something
there.
That's
a
24-hour
access
would
not
be
desirable
to
me.
I'm
also
a
little
bit
confused
about
those
parking
spaces
that
you
just
showed
that
are
going
to
be
right
up
on
the
the
bike
path
there
and
who's
parking
there.
N
What
are
those
for
and
I'm
kind
of
running
fast?
I
don't
know
if
I'm
just
running
through
my
list
here,
I
don't
know
if
I
should
re
you
allow
time
to
respond
for
each
one
or
whatever
last
thing,
protect
protected
trees.
What
does
that
mean?
Maybe
it's
a
small
thing,
but
I
mean
they're
protected,
but
yet
now
they're
not
protected,
because
it's
no
longer
convenient
for
us
to
protect
something.
I
I
find
that
a
little
bit
unsettling.
That's
it.
C
Okay,
thank
you
tom
and
we'll
get
to
some
of
those
questions.
Do
we
have
any
responses
from
anybody
regarding
the
protected
trees
in
the
parking
so
and
we'll
run
out
the
time
here.
B
The
projected
trees
are
being
replaced,
and
this
is
all
done
quite
above
board
by
larger
trees,
so
these
are
all
be
replaced
by
mature
trees,
so
we're
not
losing
any
trees
and
in
the
parking
that
is
parking
up
against
mary
there.
The
bike
out,
that
is,
for
the
self
storage
patrons
that
will
have
nothing
to
do
with
the
bike
or
anything
like
that.
So
that
has
nothing
to
do
with
it,
and
the
30
foot
height
is
really.
B
The
gentleman
mentioned,
as
I
mentioned,
is
197
feet
from
the
curb
on
the
east
side
of
mary,
so
it's
a
long
distance
and
it's
screened
by
the
one-story
building
and
the
trees
that
are
there.
So
it's
going
to
be
very
buffered,
and
it's
not
unusual,
even
in
cupertino,
to
have
a
two-story
home,
that's
25,
to
28
feet,
so
this
is
very
much
in
the
scale
of
a
two-story
home.
So
this
is
not
particularly
high
and
given
the
distance
away
from
the
residents,
we
think
it's
going
to
have
minimal
impact
if
any
at
all,.
C
Okay,
real
quick
just
so
people
can
see
here's
where
the
parking
lot
is,
and
it's
not
in
the
trail.
So
just
so
people
know
that
so
just
to
clarify
that,
so
everyone
has
that
okay,
vice
chair
scharf,
you
have
a
question.
B
M
C
Thank
you
for
the
clarification
we'll
go
to
jennifer
griffin
and
then
vice
chair
sharp.
Did
you
have
a
question
or
you're
just.
J
Thank
you.
Can
you
all
hear
me
yeah?
Okay?
Yes,
now
this
interesting
discussion,
my
first
question
was
in
terms
of
the
40
parking
places.
I'm
really
glad
that
the
company
has
decided
to
have
more
parking.
I
think
it's
a
really
good
idea,
especially
cupertino's
quite
sensitive
about
it.
Now.
Will
this
I
think
they
stated
that
this
parking
was
going
to
be
for
people
attached
to
using
the
storage
unit
coming
in
etc.
Will
will
the
parking
spaces
be?
J
Will
it
say
there
that
they're
reserved
for
for
park
for
the
storage
unit,
because
you
might
have
people
coming
in
to
walk
on
the
trail
that
might
just
inadvertently
go
there
and
park?
So
would
that
be
a
tow
away
zone?
Might
it
be
better
that
the
parking
spaces
be
secured
within
the
facility?
I
think
that
happens
a
lot
of
times
that
they
would
be
within
the
facility
so
that
it
would
be
people
that
were
coming
in
that
had
units
etc.
I'm
not
really
sure
about
that.
J
The
other
thing
is
in
terms
of
the
windows
that
were
on
the
building.
I
understand
that,
yes,
they
probably
are
an
architectural
feature
because
to
have
a
building
that
large,
that
would
just
be
a
straight
face
of
gray,
stucco,
stone
et
cetera,
would
probably
be
quite
jarring.
Having
having
the
building
broken
up
with
types
of
fixed
windows,
I'm
sure
people
they
may
even
people
aren't
able
to
look
out
at
them.
I
think
they're
strictly
an
architectural
feature
and
having
something
like
that
on
a
building
that
flies,
I
think,
is
a
really
good
idea.
J
I
don't
live
next
to
it.
So
I
comment
on
that,
but,
looking
at
it
from
a
distance,
I
think
it's
nice
to
have
it
broken
up.
The
other
question
I
had
was
what
is
in
terms
of
the
trail
dedication
for
the
future
juniper
sarah
trail.
J
How
far
is
that
is
that
actually,
on
the
four
acres
that
belong
to
the
storage
facility
or
are?
Is
that
land
being
dedicated
as
an
easement,
and
how
close
is
that
to
the
storage
facility?
Would
you
have
people
potentially
being
able
to
come
over
the
fence
to
get
into
the
storage
facility
from
the
future
trail?
Thank
you.
C
No
great
questions
and,
let's
get
a
clarification,
I
believe
the
parking
spots
are
within
the
closed
security
fence.
Is
that
correct,
curtis.
M
Yeah,
so
I
I
could
speak
to
the
the
way
the
storage
facility
works.
Is
new
customers
come
up
to
the
storage
facility
and
right
off
of
mary
there's
a
handful
of
parking
stalls
that
will
be
clearly
marked
as
bay
area
self-storage
parking
only
so
that
they're
not
for
the
trail
and
keep
in
mind.
These
are
right
next
to
the
manager's
office,
so
the
manager
will
be
keeping
an
eye
on
these
stalls
so
that
you
know
general
public
doesn't
try
to
park
there
and
and
bike
across
the
path.
M
And
then
all
the
other
stalls
are
behind
a
gated
or
behind
the
the
locked
gate.
So
you
need
to
have
a
code
and
be
a
customer
to
be
able
to
get
in
that
gate
to
be
able
to
use
those
other
stalls.
So
those
are
just
people
visiting
their
existing
unit
in
our
facility,
so
those
won't
be
used
by
the
public.
C
Okay,
thank
you
and
a
question
backed
regarding
the
trails
and
the
trail.
Dedication.
M
The
trail,
the
trail,
dedication
or
easement
is,
is
on
the
side,
slope
of
the
property.
It
is
on
our
property,
and
you
know
if
and
when
this
trail
does
come,
that
that
easement
is
is
ready.
For
that
trail.
The
trail
will
be
built
as
part
of
the
juniper.
Sarah
trail,
that
cupertino
is
building,
but
it
will
be
on
this
easement
on
our
property.
C
C
Okay,
let's
go
back
to
the
commission,
commissioner
mattipotla.
Please
go
ahead.
G
Yeah,
so
the
trade
is
meant,
so
is
that
going
to
be
outside
the
fence
of
the
property?
Like
you
know,
when
you
guys
have
a
fence
around
the
property,
the
trade
is
going
to
be
outside
right,
so
correct,
okay,
that's
good!
So
ray
you
flashed
up
the
diagram.
So
could
you
bring
it
up
again.
C
Sure
this
one
correct
sorry.
G
So
so
this
one
right,
the
30
30
feet
tall
building
right
so
can
we
make
sure
that
trees
that
we
plant
along
the
east
side
closer
to
the
right
yeah
so
along
the
trail
and
all
that
right?
So
can
we
make
sure
that
those
trees
are
tall
enough
so
that
these
residences
know
that
you
are
showing
on
the
right
side
the
rectangles
right?
G
So
it's
good
that
no,
they
don't
have
any
loss
of
privacy
because
you
know
nobody's
living
in
these
buildings,
so
nobody's
going
to
be
picking
up
their
backyards
and
all
that,
but
at
the
same
time
these
residents-
you
know
when
they
wake
up
in
the
morning
and
go
to
the
yard.
We
don't
want
them
to
be.
Looking
at.
G
B
If
I
clarify
the
landscape
plan,
clarifies
the
new
mature
trees
being
planted
on
both
sides
of
the
bike
easement,
so
they
will
be
on
both
sides.
This
will
help
screen.
M
I
think
it's
also
I'll
make
one
more
note
that
I
think
is
important
to
note
is
on
that
side
of
the
property,
our
our
property
slopes
from
south
to
north
considerably
and
then
down
from
south
to
north
towards
280,
and
then
the
bike
path
slopes
significantly
up
from
south
to
north.
So
you've
got
opposing
slopes
like
this
and
then
the
three-story
building
sits
there.
M
So
those
residents
are
already
buffered
by
probably
two-thirds
of
that
building
just
from
the
slope
up
of
that
bike
path,
if
you're
standing
in
their
backyard,
you
can
see
all
that
bike
path.
It's
hard
to
see
in
that
angle,
but
that
path
goes
up
considerably
because
it
needs
to
get
up
and
above
280.
C
Yeah,
it
looks
like
this.
If
I
remember
I
was
going
through
the
bike
path
and
this
is
kind
of
what
you're
looking
at
so
for
those
who
aren't
there.
So
it
is
an
interesting
slope,
so.
G
C
Yeah-
and
I
think
the
residents
here
I
think,
are
basically
one-story
homes
as
well,
so
they're
not
really
going
to
be
massively
impacted
in
their
backyard
and
plus
you've
got
the
tree
protection,
hopefully
from
here,
so
this
is
kind
of
what
they're
looking
at.
So
I
do
have
a
question
about
glass
and
separation
for
art.
For
the
my
only
concern
on
the
glass
is,
like
sunrise,
the
glass
might
just
reflect
into
someone's
homes,
but
nobody's
saying
that
these
are
just
like
one
story.
B
Yeah
we
have
no
intention
of
selecting
reflective
glass
so
that.
C
If
not,
we
can
someone
can
make
a
proposal
to
approve
and
ideally
approve
all.
C
I
think
five
items
which
would
be
make
a
resolution
to
find
the
project
exempt
from
sql
approve
the
development
permit,
prove
the
architectural
and
site
approval,
prove
the
fence
exception
and
approve
the
tree
removal
permit.
We
can
do
all
at
once.
We
could
do
it
separately
and
that's
kind
of
the
process.
K
Sure
and
I'll
I'll
speak
about
the
findings
for
this
findings
that
we
made
in
the
for
the
for
the
tree
move
permits
that
it
it
inhibits
development
to
its
full
potential
on
the
site.
So
in
this
case
the
existing
trees
would
be
in
the
same
location
as
the
proposed
trail
would
be
as
as
well
so
the
that
within
that
ease
meant
that
20
foot
easement,
you
would
have
two
or
three,
or
maybe
even
four
of
those
trees
to
locate
to
be
located
within
that
slope,
easement
and
future
trail
easement
as
well.
K
So
what
this
does
is
allows
that
future
trail
access
all
together
and
allows
us
to
plant
more
of
a
uniform
variety
of
trees
to
be
consistent
along
the
trail
and
again,
you
know
it
is
within
the
planning
commission's
purview
to
suggest
a
species,
as
chair
wong
had
done
earlier
regarding
the
power
lines,
if
you
see
fit.
C
Crepe
myrtles
for
everyone
just
kidding:
let's
not
do
that,
but
yeah.
No,
I
I
do.
I
do
have
a
question
about
the
trees
I
mean
the
current
trees
are,
are
a
mess
they're
all
over
the
map
and
they
really
do
look
like
they
need
some
pruning.
So
I
do
understand
that
there's
no
legacy
heritage
trees.
There
are
that
correct.
Just
to
verify.
K
Yeah,
there's
no
again
coast
live
oaks
or
door.
Cedars
are
going
to
be
removed.
These
are
purely
where
you
know
it's
under
what
we
call
a
development
tree
that
we
planted
there
as
part
of
an
early
development
of
the
70s,
and
you
know,
and
so
again,
inhibiting
future
development
of
potential
insight.
C
Got
it
all
right?
Okay,
any
other
discussion,
any
other
questions,
otherwise
we'll
get
it
to
syrah
and
put
it
to
a
vote
all
right.
I
just
have
one
comment.
I
just
want
to
say:
hey
look.
We
do
need
more
facilities.
If
you
look
at
the
storage
facilities,
if
you
tried
to
get
a
storage
facility
recently,
there's
not
a
lot
of
capacity
in
the
marketplace.
So
thank
you
for
proposing
this
project
and,
of
course,
this
place
needs
some
modernization
so
glad
that
you're
putting
some
reinvestment
back
into
cupertino.
C
E
For
a
change,
it's
good
to
get
a
proposal
that
doesn't
require
exceptions,
and
so
on
you
know.
Finally,
we
would
want
all
construction
to
be
like
that,
because
those
are
the
ones
where
things
get
so
contentious.
So
thank
you
for
sticking
to
what
the
plan
says
and
what
the
audiences
say.
E
E
L
L
C
H
Thank
you,
chair
wong.
I
actually
do
not
have
a
presentation
on
this
item,
but
this
is
the
commission's
chance
to
propose
work
program
items
for
the
director
and
city
managers,
consideration
and
we're
gonna.
You
know
once
we
get
the
commission's
proposals,
those
will
be
considered
when
preparing
the
city's
work
program
and
then,
if
any
of
the
planning
commissions
items
are
not
included
in
that
board
program
that
is
proposed
to
the
city
council.
H
C
Thank
you.
I've
had
a
chance
to
talk
to
probably
about
100
residents.
This
is
probably
what's
on
the
top
of
the
mind.
We've
been
very
resident.
Focused
number
one
is
to
get
our
act
together
on
this
5g
cell
ordinance
from
an
architectural
perspective.
That
seems
to
be
the
number
one
vote
from
almost
every
single
person.
C
I
have
talked
to
number
two:
let's
get
some
clarification
on
the
second
story
balcony
and
what
that
means-
and
you
know
what
how
big
that
is,
and
here's
an
interesting
third
one
that
I've
been
hearing
from
residents
is:
can
we
change
the
second
floor?
Second
story
to
first
story:
floor
area
ratio,
our
use.
I
understand
the
bulk
consideration
conversation
about
having
a
second
floor.
C
Second
story
permit,
but
we
got
birthday,
cakes
that
look
ridiculous
and
people
want
to
be
able
to
go
straight
up
on
a
sure
wall
in
some
areas,
but
at
least
have
the
architectural
features
to
reduce
the
bulk.
So
those
are
the
three
things
I
got
here
and
I
don't
know
if
anyone
else
has
any
other
things
to
add.
C
Oh,
I
have
a
fourth
one,
but
that
mirror
share
shark.
Might
hate
me
for
that,
but
people
want
the
natural
gas
ban
removed,
but
that's
another
story.
I
get
a
lot
of
resistance
on
that
one,
but
I
like
cooking
at
natural
gas,
but
some
people
have
been
saying
that
anybody
else
vice
chair
vice
chair,
sharp.
L
I
agree
completely
about
the
whole
balcony
issue.
This
keeps
coming
back
to
us
and
even
when
we
don't
like
a
balcony,
we
really
don't
have
any
power
to
reject
a
balcony
that
is
in
compliance,
and
I
think
we
really
do
need
some
kind
of
balcony
ordinance
or
guidance,
and
I
also
agree
with
your
ratio
of
first
to
second
floor.
I
don't
think
it
should
be
a
hundred
percent
second
floor
of
first
floor,
but
I
think
it
I
think
it
could
go
a
little
higher
than
it
is
now.
We.
L
C
H
Go
ahead
answer
some
of
those
questions
it
used
to
be
35
percent.
You
could
get
a
bill
just
a
building
permit.
You
did
not
have
to
have
any
kind
of
permits
issued
by
the
city
in
order
to
build
that.
If
you
went
above
35
percent,
you
had
to
get
what
was
called
a
residential
design
review
permit,
which
went
to
the
design
review
committee,
and
that
was
only
up
to
a
maximum
of
45
percent.
You
could
not
go
above
45
percent,
then
that
change
to
the
second
story.
H
The
first
story
ratio
is
45
percent,
but
you
need
a
two-story
permit
from
the
city
to
do
that
and
then
I
believe
in
2011.
It
changed
from
the
45
percent
to
what
is
now
the
66
percent.
So
if
you
get
a
60,
if
you
are
under
66
percent,
you
get
what
is
called
a
two-story
permit
in
order
to
and
when
there
is
no
design
review
on
a
building
that
is
66.
Second,
to
first
ratio.
H
If
you
are
over
66
percent,
you
get
what
is
called
a
residential
design
review
still
a
two-story
permit,
but
you
have
to
go
through
architectural
review
and
consideration,
but
you
could
go
all
the
way
up
to
100.
There
is
no
limitation
on
that,
so
I
did
want
to
point
that
out.
L
L
L
Okay
and
then
your
third
thing,
the
third
thing
you
brought
up
was
the
5g
cell
and,
yes,
that's
been
an
issue
for
a
long
time.
I
know
I
mean
I
recall
when
we
decided
to
design
that
street
light
pole,
because
the
alternative
was
the
cellular.
Carriers
could
just
hang
an
ugly
box
on
a
pole
and
we
would
have
no
power
to
deny
it
but
yeah.
We
should
look
at
what
other
cities
have
done,
keeping
in
consideration
which
other
cities
have
been
sued.
For
what
they've
done.
L
I
I
know
it
has
been
a
big
issue
for
many
residents
that
don't
don't
want
5g
cells
close
to
their
homes,
the
other
thing
unrelated
to
any
of
those-
and
I
don't
know
if
this
can
be
a
work
plan
item,
but
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
saw
the
december
6th
mercury
news
article
about
cupertino.
L
So
I
would
like
some
work
plan
item
that
does
some
kind
of
outreach
to
renters
that
explains
to
them
their
rights
to
safe
living
conditions,
and
that's
it
thanks.
C
Well,
thanks
for
that,
vice
chair,
sharp
commissioner
saxena
you've
got
your
hand
raised.
Then,
commissioner,
madipatla.
E
I
wanted
to
revisit
something
which
I
bought
up
earlier
is
about
how
client
decisions
impact
schools-
okay,
you
know,
as
you
probably
know,
cusd
shutting
down
schools,
even
though
we
have
one
of
the
highest
per
school
density
in
the
area
we
have
schools
which
run
almost
one
third
of
the
classes
in
affordable
classrooms
and
with
the
new
housing
allocation
and
other
elements
coming.
E
I
feel
it's
absolutely
critical,
even
more
critical
than
5g
or
something
that
we
figure
that
out.
What
exactly
should
be
the
planning
policy
to
make
stupid
underscores
viable
schools
are
what
in
a
lot
of
ways
or
drive
a
lot
of
people
to
cupertino.
E
I
think
they're
they're
world
famous
they've
known
all
over
the
world
and
to
learn
that
we
have
among
the
lowest
per
people
funding
in
seriously
across
the
country
and
definitely
after
adjusting
for
cost
of
living.
I
was
a
big
shock
to
me
and
clearly
we
didn't
end
up
in
this
space,
not
because
because
of
some
kind
of
decisions
made
over
the
past
decades,
which
made
our
tax
base
completely
incompatible,
are
not
diverse
enough
and
not
rich
enough
to
fix
the
to
support.
E
The
number
of
children
coming
to
our
schools,
I'm
glad
we
have
two
attorneys
from
berkeley
here
who
can
help
us
figure
out
how
to
get
a
square
foot
bit
parcel
tax
pass.
I
know
they
didn't
do
it
directly,
but
they
probably
know
about
the
whole
issues,
but
I
do
want
to
understand
the
school
generation
ratios
of
single
family
versus
multi-family
owner
occupied
versus
rental
and
track
them
so
that
they
can
guide
the
planning
decisions.
E
I've
bought
this
up
before,
but
I
wasn't
even
sure
what
work
order
it
comes
in
or
what
what
part
we
do
it
and
it's
complicated
even
further
by
the
fact
that
c
usd
actually
stretches
across
three
four
different
cities.
But
you
know
it's
still
union
school
district.
I
think
we
are
the
heart
and
soul
of
the
district.
It's
probably
important
enough
for
us
to
start
taking
action
so
that
we
can
mitigate
the
impact
of
that
and
take
smart
planning
decisions.
E
So
chairman
you'll
have
to
guide
me
or
the
stock,
but
how
we're
going
to
do
it?
But
I
think
it's
high
time
reasonable.
C
It's
a
proposal
so
you're
making
a
proposal
so
that
we
study
that-
and
I
think
that's
this
is
the
first
part
of
that
process.
To
do
that,
I
will
also
include
the
fremont
union
high
school
district
and
that
too
it's
not
just
csd
as
well.
I
mean
that
would
be
the
conversation
point
or
generation.
E
Definitely
I
mean,
I
think
psd
is
much
bigger
and
cause
even
more
cities
and
psg
is
compatible
in
the
much
better
state
compared
to
seriously
seriously
shutting
down
schools,
even
though
they
have
the
highest
number
of
students
per
school
in
the
entire
region,
so
which
is
like
so
counterintuitive,
and
we
need
to
fix
that,
and
at
least
we
need
to
start
taking
steps
to
not
make
the
problem
much
worse
than
before.
C
G
Thank
you,
so
I
I
have
a
couple
of
things
that
now
I
just
wanted
to
talk
about
right,
so
one
the
schools
right
so
certainly
now,
every
development
in
the
city
affects
no
schools
in
some
way
right.
So
so
what
I'd
like
to
see
is
you
know
an
assessment
or
a
score
that
says
you
know
this
is
a
net
positive
development
or
net
negative
development
for
the
other
services
like,
for
example,
like
I
did
some
analysis
earlier
on.
You
know
how
much
tax
is
going
to
schools.
G
G
An
average
yeah
home
contributes
to
you,
know
roughly
around
three
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
towards
towards
cusd,
irrespective
of
the
type
of
home
right,
and
so,
if
you
have,
you
know
one
kid
for
every
three
homes
you
know,
then
you
know
you
can
fund
it
or
your
kids
education
in
the
city
right,
so
because
three
thousand
five
hundred
multiplied
by
three.
You
know
we
get.
You
know
ten
thousand
dollars,
you
know
so
going
to
towards
usd
rentals.
They
pay
500
per
unit.
G
So
so,
if
you
take
into
consideration
all
these
factors,
you
know
every
development.
You
know
you
know
it's
a
net
positive
to
the
community
or
net
negative
right.
Take,
for
example,
you
know
works
development
virginally.
The
way
it
was
proposed
would
have
been
a
net
negative
development
for
for
the
city.
G
The
way
it
turned
out
is
a
net
positive
right.
If
we
do
the
analysis
right
so
so
we
need
to
look
at
now.
Every
development
in
the
context,
because
in
the
long
run
we'll
all
be
gone
right,
20,
30
years
from
now
like
we
want
to
know
the
city
infrastructure
and
the
elements
you
know
that
make
the
city
you
know
these
developments
should
become
a
burden
on
that.
G
So
so
I'd
like
to
see
you
know
some
study
on,
like
you
know,
is
this
development
you
know
admit
possibly
to
the
community
or
negative
right.
So
that's
one!
The
second
topic
was
just
looking
at.
You
know
my
home
right
so
from
I
have
solar
panels
like
I
have
a
lot
of
capacity
like
in
summer.
I
generate
around.
You
know,
60
kilowatt
per
day
right
in
winter,
I'm
doing
10
kilowatt
per
day.
G
That's
because
how
the
panels
are
placed
and
where
they
are
right.
So
so,
even
though
my
home
is
south
facing
I
couldn't
nearly
have
you
know
all
the
panels
on
south
side,
because
you
know
a
lot
of
you
know
vents
right.
So
I
was
wondering
you
know.
If
you
can
do
some
kind
of
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
it's
a
quote
or
no
study
that
says
you
know
here
is
it?
G
Is
your
no
solar
score
for
the
new
houses
right
so
where
we
kind
of
you
know
encourage
you
know:
solar
friendly,
you
know
kind
of
adorable,
because
in
future
we
want
to
know
the
city
and
you
know
every
residence
to
be
self-sufficient
right.
I
put
on
a
lot
of
panels.
You
know
because
I
want
to
be
self-sufficient.
I
don't
want
to
be
no
reliant
on
pgnd,
but
the
panels
are
not
all
on
the
north
side,
because
on
south
side
you
know,
even
though
my
home
is
facing
south
side.
G
I
couldn't
put
the
panels
on
south
side
because
of
another
event,
so
can
designs
be
done
in
a
way
where
we
have
a
lot
more?
No
solar
exposure
on
the
south
side.
So
you
know
there
is
a
lot
of
generation
so
to
make
the
homes
you
know
self-sufficient,
something
to
kind
of
you
know,
think
about
and
study,
and
you
know
and
make
it
some
kind
of
part
of
a
code
or
something
in
the
future.
C
That's
a
great
point:
commission
moto
pop
money
pilot
there's
a
there's,
a
algorithm.
Actually,
that's
been
created
to
optimize
solar
energy
capture
of
residential
roof
designs.
So
I
can't
remember
where
I
read
that
research
article,
but
there
is
something
out
there
and
people
can
apply
that
as
as
they're
looking
at
roof
designs
going
forward.
So
yeah.
G
C
L
Yes,
so
what
the
two
other
commissioners
mentioned
regarding
school
enrollment,
you
know
one
of
the
ways
that
this
needs
to
be
addressed
is
in
our
housing
element
for
the
next
arena
cycle,
where
we
decide
or
where
we
encourage
property
owners
to
take
arena
out,
you
know
apply
for
their
land
to
be
turned
into
housing,
that
it
should
be
considered
what
the
impact
will
be
on
the
schools.
Now,
the
reality
is
only
one
school
in
cupertino,
I
believe,
is
closing
regnart
the
other
schools
closing
are
outside
of
cupertino.
L
But
when
you
go
to
a
you
know,
20-story
building
you're
not
going
to
have
enough
roof
space
you're
going
to
be
dependent
on
the
utilities
for
your
energy
use,
which
is
something
we
probably
want
to
discourage
just
because
of
where
we're
going
in
terms
of
climate
change.
We
really
need
to
be
smarter
about
the
way
we
do
our
choices
for
new
housing.
C
Yeah
a
great
point
in
the
26
year
old
program
to
get
rid
of
to
actually
incur
solar
panels.
I
think
those
benefits
are
actually
being
reduced
going
forward.
That's
a
proposal!
That's
out
there
in
these.
C
So,
okay,
great,
let's
go
to
our
public
jennifer
griffin.
You've
got
three
minutes
and
let's
see
what
your
ideas
are.
J
Thank
you,
hi,
I'm
jennifer
griffin
and
you
all
had
some
interesting
discussions.
First
of
all,
I'm
going
to
start
out
about
the
the
wedding
cake
houses.
Those
are
very,
very
important
for
small
family
for
small
lots.
I
mean
when
you're
talking
about
five
thousand
fifty
five
hundred
square
foot
lots
I'm
a
real
big
fan.
J
J
Yes,
there
are
areas
that
have
larger
lots,
but
I
really
do
not
want
to
see
any
elimination
of
the
second
sturdy
setbacks
it
you
don't
want
to
have
30
30
foot
vertical
runs,
I
mean
where
god
knows
what
sb9
and
sb10
are
going
to
be
coming.
You
know
dragging
in
to
the
neighborhoods
once
whether
they
get
I
don't
know
I
mean
I
don't
even
want
to
go
into
that
four
feet
from
the
property
line.
All
four
sides
of
the
lot
vertical
runs.
Nobody.
J
J
You
have
more
privacy
for
neighbors
and
it
it's
a
pew
is
very
very
familiar
with
the
battles
over
this
and
yes,
it
started
at
35
and
now
it's
gone
up
and-
and
I
will
say
right
now-
I'm
very
happy
with
a
lot
of
the
homes
that
are
being
produced
in
rancho
rinkanata
right
now,
which
is
primarily
small
lot,
they're,
very
lovely
homes,
beautiful
design,
just
such
an
asset
to
the
neighborhood
and
we've
had
a
few
modern
designs
in
so
I
I
just
balconies
okay,
I
won't
go
there.
J
I
I
think
that
there
probably
needs
to
be
some
stuff
looked
into
that.
God
knows
what
nine
and
ten
are
going
to
do
with
balconies
like
you
can
build
over
your
neighbor's
fence,
but
we
need
to
remember
that
there
is
a
history
of
why
we
wound
up
with
wedding
cake
houses,
and
I
I'm
not
you
know,
that's
just
the
you.
C
J
I
I
it's
not
if
somebody's
flipping
their
property
and
they're
coming
out
with
10
million
dollars,
because
they
put
in
four
four
properties
on
their
5500
square
foot
lot,
they
sure,
as
heck
need
to
contribute
to
the
school
district,
but
then
again,
really
the
trees.
Okay,
thank
you.
C
No
thank
you.
Thank
you
for
your
suggestions.
We're
also
taking
suggestions
from
the
business
community
see
some
people
that
could
potentially
put
some
suggestions
here
as
well.
But
if
you
do,
please
send
an
email
to
any
one
of
the
commissioners
if
you've
got
an
idea
as
well
for
work
plan
item.
That
would
also
help
encourage
our
business
community
and
then,
of
course,
looking
forward
to
hearing
any
other
comments.
C
You
know,
while
you
can
so
please
submit
those
and
happy
send
them
to
the
planning,
commission
or
planning
department
planning,
cupertino.org,
any
other
comments
back
to
commissioners.
Anything
else
you
guys
want
to
add,
as
we
close
the
public
portion
comment.
C
Okay
with
that,
let's
go
to
the
next
agenda
item
pews
or
anything
else
you
want,
which
we'll
make
sure
we're
good.
H
H
I
have
seven
items
here,
so
the
commission,
if
the
commission
would
please
prioritize
their
top.
Let
me
see
three.
H
Yes,
this
is
what
I
caught
and
I
hope
I
caught
them
all
so,
please
bear
with
me.
I
have
5g
ordinance.
I
have
the
second
story.
Balconies
need
a
balcony,
ordinance
or
guidance.
That's
what
I
caught!
I'm
not
sure
if
the
commission
still
wished
to
address
second
story
to
first
story
limitations,
since
there
are
none
at
this
point,
outreach
to
renters
to
explain
their
rights
to
them.
G
G
L
Yeah,
that's
true,
and
again,
as
I
mentioned,
some
of
this
will
be
just
fall
out
of
the
housing
element.
Hopefully,
in
terms
of
you
know
what
we
do
for
school
enrollment
but
yeah,
I
think
it's
important
enough
to
the
community
to
be
a
separate
item
for
schools.
Definitely,
the
balconies
and
5g,
I
think,
would
be
my
top
three.
If
we
could
eat,
maybe
we
could
each
do
our
top
three
yep.
C
Okay,
and
can
you
blow
that
up
a
little
more,
I
think,
as.
C
And
yeah
we'll
go
to
you,
commissioner
saxena.
What
are
your
top
three.
C
Oh,
you
got
three
votes.
There.
You
go
in
the
system,
that's
a
smart
move,
but
okay,
what's
the
other
two
other.
E
Can
you
just
scroll
down
to
see,
though
so
we
have?
I
just
see:
okay,
schools
then
second
floor
balcony
and
solar.
G
G
So
mine,
schools
for
sure
the
impact
of
development
on
schools.
E
G
C
I
would,
I
would
say
that
is
design
guidelines
to
maximize
maximize
solar
production
capacity.
Yeah.
C
E
If
you
will
allow,
I
will
also
save
move
my
balcony
to
5g.
C
L
Oh
so
mine
balconies,
because
we
spend
such
an
inordinate
amount
of
time
in
the
planning
commission
on
balconies
and
then
I
will
also
do
5g
and
schools.
H
So,
okay
and
then
chair,
one.
H
Two
we'll
rank
three
and
you
get
two
additional.
G
H
So
and
then
I,
between
balconies
and
solar
homes,
I
see
balcony
getting
three
and
one
and
solar
panels
getting
three
and
two.
E
H
C
A
G
E
G
G
H
G
So
I,
given
that
you
know
the
schools,
had
you
know
number
one
ranked
somewhere.
I
would
put
two
two
words
for
the
schools
is
not
three
right.
C
Happy
making
I'm
happy
making
making
schools
number
three
and
having
balconies
as
the
extra
bonus
one.
So
I'm
okay
with
that,
I
think
that's.
We
have
a
consensus.
H
I
H
C
H
No,
I
didn't
add
that
we
do
have
existing
work
program,
items
that
are
not
completed
and
that
are
rolling
over
as
well
so
which
were
provided
in
your
packet.
So
I
did
want
to
add
those
out
for
your.
You
know
for
you
to
think
about,
because
these
are
also
part
of
the
work
program.
So
the
three
that
you're
prioritizing
are
not
going
to
just
be
added
to
these.
But
they're
going
to
be
considered
in
the
grand
scheme
of
everything
else
that
staff
is
working
on.
H
We
live
and
learn
and
we're
we're
you
know
they
keep
evolving
a
little
bit
at
a
time.
There
is
the
the
housing
element
continues
to
be
a
pretty
big
work
program
item
for
us.
H
H
We
also
have
the
residential
and
mixed
use
residential
design
standards,
which
I
know
the
community
had
a
big
interest
in
seeing
in
the
in
the
interest
of
objective
standards,
because
that
is
what
we
would
look
to
when
a
project
comes
in,
to
make
sure
that
people
would
meet
those
objective,
design,
standards.
E
H
E
L
E
I
think
the
way
I
would
put
it
I
want
this
to
work
on
the
school
also
to
start
this
year
and
not
wait
for
everything
else
to
be
finished.
Sbo
said
you
learn
and
iterate
on
the
way,
so
the
process
will
continue,
but
I
think
for
the
schools
it's
high
time.
We
took
some
decisive
action
too.
C
E
I
mean
I
personally
feel
that,
like
the
school
understanding
project
is,
some
is
research
and
data
heavy
and
we
should
probably
offer
internships
something
to
get
somebody
to
work
on
those
collect.
The
data
do
some
analysis.
I
feel
that
that
way
we
involve
the
community.
Also,
we
offer
our
younger
generation
the
chance
to
become
a
participant
in
the
civic
research
and
decision
process
and
I'm
sure
it's
going
to
throw
up
some
very
interesting
findings.
E
H
H
E
E
So
if
you
have
to
lobby
with
the
cusd
board
to
get
the
data
out,
we
should
but
like
it's
a
problem
which
needs
a
solution,
because
we
pretty
much
can't
go
down
much
further
than
where
we
are
already
so.
If
we
don't
do
it
now,
I
don't
know:
when
are
we
going
to
do
it
so
if
it
requires
more
partnership
with
seriously?
Let's
do
that.
L
L
E
Yeah
commissioner,
chair
one
we'll
have
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
it,
but
I
want
raw
data
for
the
past
25
years
and
I
want
people
to
get
down
and
crunch
it
because
otherwise,
it's
all
you
know
smoke
and.
C
Myths
well
yeah.
The
state
has
deliberately
obfuscated
the
data
and
not
provided
it
in
any
transparent
form.
The
school's
districts
have
also
hidden
that
data,
so
there
is
a
conspiracy
here.
That
is
ridiculous.
I
mean
we
should
know
how
much
goes
to
the
state,
how
much
gets
brokered
out
to
everybody
else
and
by
property
right
and
that
can
all
be
scrubbed.
You
don't
have
to
give
out
addresses
for
it.
Whatever
excuses
they've,
given
that's
just
ridiculous,
so
I
agree
with
you.
C
N
C
So
I
don't
know
why
we
only
have
five
items
that
are
there,
but
we
do
need
to
put
in
objective
standards.
I
think
council
will
probably
push
for
that
anyways
in
order
to
handle
the
onslaught
of
legislation.
That's
been
coming
through
to
make
sure
that
we're
protected.
So
that's
one.
I
would
massively
law
before
I'm
happy
supporting
the
schools
and
the
5g.
I
think
those
are
probably
a
lot
of
concerns
from
the
residents
on
the
5g
one,
and
so
I'm
happy
to
support
you
guys
on
the
schools
one.
C
E
H
H
C
Okay,
all
right
and
yeah,
and
I
would.
A
C
C
Okay,
I'll
easily
make
a
motion
to
prioritize
and
submit
new
work
plan
items
along
with
the
existing
ones,
with
top
three
being
objective
standards:
schools,
5g
and
I'm
missing
something
balconies
and
then
I
think
there's
one
for
is
that
design,
standards
or
yeah?
I
think
it's
design
standards,
with
the
assumption
that
housing
element
is
an
ongoing
project
that
will
be
going
on
all
next
year.
That's
my
motion.
So
is
there
a
second.
E
D
G
C
Okay,
this
is
why
we
are
city
attorney.
Thank
you.
So,
all
right,
okay,
we'll
move
to
our
next
agenda
item,
which
is
really,
I
don't
think
we
do
have
any
staff
and
commission
reports.
H
No,
no
staff
reports-
I
just
did
want
to
remind
the
commission
that
we
will
be
reviewing
the
work.
The
city's
annual
report
sometime
early
next
year,
so
just
wanted
to
remind
the
commission
to
look
at
the
last
work
program,
not
what
program,
but
the
annual
report
to
remind
themselves
of
how
that
is
done
and
then
also
that
we
will
probably
be
coming
back
for
a
housing
element
item
or
hearing
sometime
early
next
year.
H
So
please
we
provided
certain
links
earlier
this
year.
If
you
would
review
those
links
to
kind
of
understand
what
the
housing
element
is
about.
C
L
C
Okay,
lovely
all
right
anything
else
if
that
any
future
agenda
items,
if
not,
I
think
our
next
meeting
is
actually
in
january.
Do
we
have
a
date
for
that,
just
making
sure
so
everybody
knows
january
11th.
Is
that
correct.
C
Okay,
all
right
with
that
happy
holidays.
Everyone
please
stay
safe,
and
you
know
this
is
enjoyment
of
the
city
of
cupertino's
planning,
commission
meeting
for
december
14th,
bye,
everybody
take
care,
happy
holidays,
everybody.