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From YouTube: Cupertino City Council Meeting - March 15, 2022 (Part 1)

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Coverage of the Tuesday, March 15, 2022 Cupertino City Council Meeting. Part 1 of 2.

A

Good evening, everyone, this is march 15 2022.. This is a special meeting of the cupertino city council prior to our regularly scheduled meeting in march. The second meeting that is, and so our special meeting now starts at 5- 30 p.m. Madam city clerk, could you please conduct the roll call.

B

Over more here council member way, yeah council member willie here nice mayor ciao uh here here paul.

A

And I'm here, thank you very much, madam city clerk, all right, so the special meeting is comprised of a single study session item. The subject is to consider options for the west coast, farmer's market location. At a city park, the west coast, farmers market had been located in the oaks shopping center. But of course, that's not subject to a new development. It had moved and we were using a memorial park for a while, but um or at least part of the parking lot joining it.

A

And so uh at this point uh we are exploring options and uh mr city manager, uh jim troop, would you like to introduce the staff presenter for this item.

C

Thank you mayor. Sorry, I mute myself. um Yes, today's presenter is going to be rachelle saunders. Our assistant director for parks, recreation.

A

Great thanks, jim and welcome rachelle.

D

Thank you share my screen.

D

All right: can everyone see that? Yes, okay, good evening, honorable mayor and city council members, my name is rochelle sander and I am the assistant director of parks and recreation. Tonight's study session will review city park options for the west coast farmers market.

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The agenda tonight includes the background on the history of the west coast, farmers, market information on four park sites on the west side of cupertino for consideration and a recommended action.

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Cupertino has two popular farmers markets serving the community. These include the friday farmers market at creekside park organized by pacific coast farmers, market association and the sunday farmers market, formerly at the oak shopping center organized by the west coast, farmers market association.

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Since the oak shopping center site is no longer available. As a farmers market venue, the west coast, farmers market was temporarily relocated to the senior center memorial park parking lot until june 1st of 2021, while it identified a permanent location for its market.

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The west coast farmer's market agreement for temporary relocation was brought to city council on january 19th of 2021 for approval. Since the initial agreement was approved, there have been four amendments to extend the memorial park. Location due to the pandemic. Memorial park was not being used for normal weekend park use, including senior center rentals, large quinlan senior, rentals, softball field, rentals festivals, summer events, picnic gatherings and more, therefore, memorial park has been available for the farmers market. During this time.

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However, as we begin to reopen memorial park for normal use, the memorial park senior center parking lot is no longer feasible for a farmers. Market staff has been working to assess the feasibility of park locations that could accommodate the west coast. Farmers market on the west side of cupertino cupertino has 10 parks on the west side of dianza boulevard, one dog park, five neighborhood parks with little to no parking and four larger neighborhood parks, with parking lots and restroom facilities.

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The four larger parks are memorial, jolly man, linda vista and monte vista parks.

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In this photo of memorial park, the green circle is where the farmers market currently sets up. The red circles are where the first capital improvement project, the pond repurposing, will focus.

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Memorial park, houses, tennis courts, a softball field, an amphitheater two playgrounds, public restrooms and a large picnic site. It is one of the most popular and well utilized parks in cupertino. The park is home to large community events such as festivals, concerts movies and shakespeare in the park. The parking lots are also shared by the cupertino senior center and quinlan community center. Rentals at these buildings are popular on the weekends and parking will frequently overflow into both parking lots.

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Memorial park has been available for the farmers market during the pandemic, since normal city operations were not in full swing.

D

However, during this period, when the west coast farmers market was temporarily located in memorial, park parks and recreation staff have received complaints from tennis and softball players due to lack of parking on sundays code enforcement staff have received complaint during complaints due to traffic congestion.

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Public works staff has have observed trash bags left outside the receptacles and produce being left in the parking lot and adjacent landscaped areas. Residents have also raised concerns related to noise level, inadequate parking and emergency vehicle access.

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In addition, there are three current capital improvement projects planned for memorial park that will span multiple years of construction. The pond repurposing project will begin construction this spring, with anticipated parking lot impacts due to construction staging the main advantages to holding the farmers market at the memorial park. Senior center parking lot is that it offers a sufficiently large venue which can be seen from stephens creek large memorial park.

D

Festivals impact, the senior center memorial parking lot through the monday after their event, due to event staging and equipment, pickup based on the 2022, large event and festival dates, 14 to 16 sundays, depending on when holidays fall, would be unavailable for the farmers market.

D

Memorial park, picnic rentals, tend to be large corporate parties, reunions and events that bring a couple hundred attendees. The grass space in front of the picnic area is included in picnic rentals and allows for bounce houses and other sports equipment to be set up. The amphitheater also holds a couple hundred people and can be rented for large events.

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In this photo, the green circle is the parking lot at jolliman park. The red circle is the area in which the all-inclusive playground, cip, will focus.

D

Jolly man park, houses, a dog off leash area, a baseball field, a half basketball court, two playgrounds, soccer fields, public restrooms and drop-in picnic areas. This location also has a current capital improvement project to build an all-inclusive playground.

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Parking may be impacted by construction due to the parking lot possibly being used for construction staging jolliben park's current use is heavy during the weekend, and the park only has one parking lot.

D

In this photo of linda vista park, the green circle is the parking lot linda vista park, houses, two playgrounds, a fitness area, a large rental picnic area, public restrooms and first come first serve picnic areas. The park also has a parking lot that could accommodate the farmer's market. However, it's located within a residential area with less traffic and visibility than the other parks linda vista park only has one parking lot and parking for large events at the park. Regularly spills onto the neighborhood streets.

D

In this photo of monte vista park, the green circle is the parking lot.

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Monte vista park, houses, tennis courts, two playgrounds and two softball fields. The park offers one parking lot and there is street parking surrounding it. The park faces the well-traveled foothill boulevard and offers fencing for farmers market marketing. Banners facing the road monte vista park has a recreation center with restrooms open to the public seven days a week. The location is also close to major freeways allowing easy access for visitors.

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Although the parking lot configuration is not optimal for the farmers market due to its shape, it is adequate, as it only offers a couple fewer spaces than memorial park.

D

In summary, memorial, jolly man, linda vista and monte vista parks are the only city parks on the west side of cupertino, with parking lots that are large enough to accommodate the farmers market. However, memorial park and jolliben park have large multi-year cips planned that will limit the availability of parking. In addition, memorial park has events, programs and rentals scheduled on sundays. That will preclude the farmers market from occurring.

D

Linda vista park has a sufficiently large parking lot, but is not highly visible from well-traveled roads. Monte vista recreation center has only one parking lot, but the parking the park has street parking on all four sides and is located on a well-traveled road.

D

The current agreement with west coast farmers market association expires on april 24th for their current location at memorial park senior center parking lot. Thank you for your time. Staff is available for any questions.

A

Thank you very much rochelle. Before we go to questions and comments from council, let's go.

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A

And open this up to our members of the public and to our members of the public. If you'd like to speak on this special meeting study session item, please raise your hand in the zoom function and I will also ask the city clerk if there were any emails that arrived after we go to our live speakers. I do see one hand raised that is from a person labeled san rao, as well as now from rebecca smith and nori, and so please have your hand raised before the first speaker is concluded. Speaking we'll have three minutes.

A

It seems a reasonable allocation of time, given our regular meeting starting time is 6 45, that's in a little bit over an hour and so san rao. Please begin welcome.

F

Thank you for the opportunity to speak in front of the city council. I'm extremely grateful to the city for the opportunity to raise the cusd item agenda 12 on the agenda for the council.

F

The city of cupertino is intimately tied to the copetino union school district, because property values in cupertino are associated.

A

Oh, um uh this is not public comment for oral communications, nor is it the item 12 that you, you apparently want to speak on, and so I'm going to refer you to that on our regular agenda. This is the special meeting regarding the location of the pacific, um the west coast, farmers market. Rather so I'm going to go ahead and go on to our next speaker and our next speaker will be considered. The first speaker that will be rebecca smith and the hands that I have raised are from rebecca nori and andy, and so welcome.

A

Rebecca you'll have three minutes.

A

And I'm getting a message: a pop-up window on my computer that allowed a talk is not available because rebecca smith is using an older version of zoom. You need to promote rebecca smith, to a panelist, to talk and so rebecca. um You now don't have your hand raised anymore, okay. So, but someone promoted you, so let me go ahead and ask you to commute.

A

uh Welcome and you'll have three minutes.

G

All right mayor, paul vice mayor, chow, city, council members, I'm becky smith, a 35-year resident of cupertino, my husband, andy and I have been gleaning produce from the west coast market since the second half of 2014..

G

We did not start this effort, theresa loved fruits and vegetables, and wanted to provide fresh produce to people in need. She learned that farmers market vendors have a wednesday through sunday work week. Much of the produce they don't sell on sunday is fed to animals or composted.

G

She visited sunday markets and found steve and jerry at west coast market. They liked her idea and encouraged their vendors to donate theresa needed help. She called churches and our church called me teresa gleamed, with a small group and hauled the produce in her car each week we got more produce and we added my previa as transport.

G

First, we delivered to our daily bread in sunnyvale, but soon we gleaned more than they could use. Then we delivered to city team ministries, but once we showed up with two vehicles of produce and they wouldn't take it- we needed a new partner and dale suggested west valley community services.

G

They could provide a truck and help with volunteers that was the beginning of 2015.. Soon we had a core team of six. We kept getting more produce and just in time, rotary donated a walk-in refrigerator to west valley, so we could refrigerate our hall. We got more produce and just in time second harvest provided west valley with the box truck that held what we collected in the summer of 2019.

G

We had a few weeks where we collected over 4 000 pounds and just in time to save our backs. West valley sent us the young men service league, an organization of moms and strong sons who do community service. Together they send six to ten volunteers a week.

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A

Okay, unfortunately, employees.

G

Helped our daughters have been so generous, we walked. Can you hear me.

A

uh Your your audio was choppy for about 20 seconds there, and so why don't you finish your comments.

G

Okay, they say take everything on those three tables: amazing generosity, 650, 000, pounds of broccoli, onions, daikon, radishes, bok, choy, apples, persimmons and more. I urge you to find a good location for this market. Be creative parks are not the only option. City employees have studied every square foot of cupertino for housing. They might have an idea if jerry and steve can't make it work at monte. Vista park, cooperatino will lose a significant asset. Thank you for your time.

A

Thank you very much, uh and so our next speaker is nori, followed by andy, and our last speaker on this item will be peggy griffin, welcome, nori.

H

Sorry, mayor vice mayor council, members park and recreation and city manager, thank you for this opportunity to speak memorial park. Parking lot on obvious acura's commons is not recommended by park and recreation at this time. Thank you for taking consideration of our residence.

H

If west coast farmer's market moved to the parking lot on others, one potential noise level, traffic congestion on on obvious, especially traffic tracks and load and load generator running car moving in and out on every sunday throughout the year. Two. The parking lot is already overflowing, and many cars lined up on elvis on sunday. Three. This traffic congestion on the street may cause safety issues. If emergency vehicles from getting through to this complex quickly, four people more likely park in the commons parking lot and or shortcut to stephen's creek 5..

H

It may also impact our security if many strangers drive or walk in the complex west coast. Farmer's market is a big organization who opens in 11 cities. They have option to the location in cupertino or any other cities, but we resident in account commons do not have the options we own. The house live here for many years and pay property tax. Some residents live here for over 30 years.

H

There are many children and babies in this complex. Please consider the alternative location.

H

If you would like to keep the west coast farmer's pocket market in cupertino, for instance, on mary avenue, along 85 wall to the dog park area, mary avenue is wide long endless traffic street mary many farmers market in other cities such as sunnyvale, los, altos, campbell or para alto, are on the street not parking lot, also, no west post, westport construction traffic on sunday or no residential area on bob road or share the creek side park with pacific coast farmers market on friday and west coast farmers market on sunday.

H

Thank you very much for listening and we really appreciate your continued support.

A

Thank you nori. Our next speaker is andy. Welcome. Andy.

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My name is andy debates and my wife becky and I have been working with steve in the farmer's market for the last seven years. um Thank you, mayor, paul or mayor paul and council members for listening to my comments uh and kirsten. Thank you for going through my slides.

I

We volunteer and organize volunteers to get the donated produce from the farmer's market to west valley. This amounts to you, know: 10 volunteers, uh two hours every sunday and moving between one and four thousand pounds of produce uh over into west valley next slide.

I

This slide shows the total amount that the farmer's market has donated over the years to west valley. uh The farmers have been very generous, donating over 650 000 pounds of produce to the west valley pantry. If you value that produce at a dollar fifty a pound, that's a million dollars into the west valley. Pantry next slide. Please.

I

Okay, I also uh drive the west valley box truck for this work uh and there's a potential issue. I want to highlight, uh with the largest trucks that the farmers have, the farmers have a collection of trucks. There are three very large trucks, uh also three large box trucks and then a larger number of small box trucks like mine, or you know, pickup trucks and vans, uh and it's the three very large trucks that I'm concerned about next slide.

I

Specifically, getting the biggest trucks in and out of the proposed new space is the issue that I that I I'm worried about. The largest trucks correspond to the largest booths and these largest booths anchor the farmers markets just like a target store anchors, a shopping center. So if we can't support the large booths, it will, you know, weaken the market overall next slide.

I

uh This is a picture of memorial park, the uh in the upper right, there's a little red rectangle that represents one of these large trucks uh and then notice. There's also a turnaround loop in the memorial park parking lot down. The lower left next slide. Please.

I

Okay, now this is a picture of monadisa and again the bona vista park and again the red rectangles represent uh one of the three largest trucks and for the three largest trucks uh there. You know there really is no turnaround area.

I

um The width of the entrance is five feet narrower than the memorial parking lot, and so it's really it's for the largest trucks. It's unclear to me if it's actually possible to enter and exit parking lot, that's being proposed, and certainly uh the trucks would not be able to maneuver within.

A

Andy uh stay on uh because I think that council might have some follow-up questions for you. So um thanks very much yes, hi.

B

It's it's kirsten. I believe that andy also had his wife on the line that wished to speak with him. I don't know if he made that announcement at the beginning. I.

A

I did not see that um uh hand raised, but um I just.

B

Wanted to let you know let.

A

Me let me go ahead and uh unmute andy at this point. So so andy did you email asking to speak on this item uh to me earlier today? I'm sorry, I got a flood of like literally hundreds of emails, but um I I I.

I

Was but let me it's a question becky who spoke earlier, that's my wife, so we ended up coming in, got it and uh mayor paul. No, I did not email you. I was connected to kirsten, so I sent my information to her.

A

Okay yeah. Thank you. You know that was actually item 10 now that I think about it, but um yeah please stay on. I think we might have some follow-ups from from council. So thanks very much. Our next and final public speaker on this item is peggy griffin, welcome, peggy.

J

Good evening, council and staff, um I it's obvious that it's critical to save this farmers market and to continue having it in cupertino um and the big trucks and the parking and the accessibility. I was wondering if there's that old pizza hut building near dish dash, could there be uh an agreement with the property owners or the surrounding their parking there. It might overflow into staples or dish dash or behind, but maybe that would be possible or if there's a company that doesn't work on sunday. Maybe they have a big parking lot or well.

J

It doesn't work if you that they need to do it on sunday um anyway. Those are some thoughts and there's got to be a place and the closing a street for a certain number of hours. I think that might be acceptable. If it's, you know, I don't know it's just. It sounds like it's very critical to keep this farmers market and we should do any everything you can to find a place. Thank you.

A

Okay, great, thank you very much. Peggy and I'll bring this back to council. I'm I'm gonna go ahead um with uh leave. I I'm interested in hearing the rest of what andy was describing and so andy. I'm gonna go ahead and um unmute your microphone. If you could, please be succinct about it, of course, but uh finish your comment.

I

Okay, thank you, mayor, paul uh christian. If you could go to the just the very last slide, I was almost at the end mayor. uh uh No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, not the backup, slides um that one right there, so this just showed an additional detail at monte vista. If you had street parking in here, the the green rectangles represent cars and again the red rectangle represents one of these large trucks.

I

You know, there's also an additional issue that, if, if you had you'd have to prove you'd have to prevent parking close to the entrance, because cars that were parked near the entrance would make the potential issue of getting that large truck uh in and out, obviously even more even more difficult.

I

um So you know I've driven through this parking. I drive the small box truck I've driven through this monta vista parking lot a couple times in the last few days. Certainly it would be the.

I

I strongly believe that the the largest trucks are only going to be able if they can, if they can get in they're, going to only be able to um operate in that upper left third of the parking space and and they would have to kind of back in and back out, you know if they can get in at all the the rest of the space. They will not be able to use uh they're the next size down trucks. The medium-sized trucks probably can navigate the rest of space, uh but it's really.

I

The biggest trucks are the ones that that I'm, the that I'm worried about and there and and those are the you know the biggest booths um and have some of the best uh produce at the farmer's market. Gotta.

A

Appreciate it and andy, can you remind us, are you a resident? Are you closely affiliated with the farmers market? um I'm.

I

A 35 I'm a 35 year resident, I'm married to becky smith, who spoke earlier, so we work on this uh together and her story. You know I I've been, you know, kind of part of that all along.

A

Well, I guess what I'm asking is: are you speaking on behalf of the vendors in terms of their perspective as to whether their trucks would fit or is it? You know a well-intentioned observation, a set of observations from yourself. Where are you gleaning this set of set of uh observations regarding truck size and and so forth?.

I

Well, I've I've volunteered with the farmers market gathering the produce for okay, understood.

A

Well, thank you very much really appreciate your um elaboration on those comments. Let me go to our city manager at this.

A

Oh thank you mayor, um uh so so um jim. uh I know you probably have a couple follow-ups there. um Let me also preface this by asking you about the de anza college location, because I know that's what you were looking at uh previously, but I haven't had time to um interface with you on that uh relatively recently, so uh jim take it away.

C

Oh, thank you mayor and council. So, and let me know if my speakers have my microphone foundation formula.

C

So that didn't fix all of the issues, even though it would be a great place, there would be some additional costs. I didn't get into the details of the college on what that would be for the uh the owners of the part of the westfish farmers market, um but that is a potential there for him to talk to the college about that part of it. um I just mean the city manager. I need to point out that this is a private for-profit entity and I love farmers markets.

C

I've actually gone to this one a number of times since I've been here, um but we have been giving them a considerable amount of step time to do all of this research for this company and I think, going forward. We need to be cautious of how much time we're putting in as a city to a private entity. uh You know we have a location for them um that we we're offering essentially without charge in front of this stuff. That's the one where it would be the best of all the locations.

C

um You know from a staff perspective. We don't have. You know. uh One of the speakers said what about a little pizza outsider 21., that.

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C

Be up to the the owner of the market to go. Do that part of it versus having staff go out and do that we're going to do that for other businesses. So I just need to make sure we understand it is a private entity. It is for profit. um The staff has been doing much more than we've done in other for other businesses. At this point I would say um so. I just want to make sure the council is aware of that. We do have a location.

C

The location that we're currently letting them stay in does have a lot of restrictions, especially going forward with the remodel of memorial park, with all the equipment that's going in there and the different events that are going on so make sure we look at everything in a bigger scale than just this. One particular.

A

Market and uh thank you jim for those comments, and uh I will say yes there we can hear a little bit of the uh kind of uh speaker issues there. So um maybe you know during a break to reset or or maybe it's just an ongoing um speaker thing. So um let me go to um well. Let me let me speak to those comments. First and um first of all, I I know that you know I speak on behalf of council when I extend our appreciation to staff for their work on this.

A

um It is a beloved. um You know uh farmers market, a lot of people go there, uh we're very grateful to um the oaks shopping center and uh the prior owner of that, for you know very, very graciously allowing um usage. um But of course you know we're we're a public entity and we're not in the in the business of necessarily brokering.

A

You know kind of private uh to private deals uh with regard to you know that kind of space, but you know we certainly don't we can uh in you know this situation to see what public spaces are available, and so I would be very much interested in hearing uh what thoughts of my fellow council members are. um I I will point out that um you know given the fact that we do have significant amounts of capital improvements happening throughout our park spaces.

A

It may well be that a move would not necessarily be permanent, but let me let me see what my fellow council members think about what the options presented in front of us uh this evening um are and what our, what our thoughts are here and any follow-up questions. So vice mayor chow, let's start with you.

A

And then vice mayor you'll need a mutual microphone and then we'll go to councilmember. Okay,.

K

I thought other people had their hands up. First.

A

uh They did the hands forward, and so, if you first hit his.

K

Hand- okay, okay, I can go so um so the answer college couldn't work because they have the once a month free market.

K

um I guess my question is also an understand is a for-profit entity, but are we competing with other cities for their someday farmers market? So we know where we stand. Maybe they have many other alternative locations to consider and we are trying to get that so that we can provide that service for our city.

K

Do we know where we stand with this company.

K

Seems they didn't even send the rep here? Are they here? They really don't really care about the cupertino location.

A

Well, thank you very much. Let me um so I'm sorry kirsten did you want to yes.

B

um I didn't know when an appropriate time to interrupt was, but um jerry, lammy and steve schmidt would like to speak if possible on behalf of the farmers market. The yes.

A

Oh, of course, yeah. I know I I think we can make that part of our our questions at this point. So um jerry and steve are they in the panelist area or in the attendees area. Both.

B

In the attendees section, okay,.

A

So let me go ahead and find them so jerry I'll go ahead and move you to a panelist and steve um steve schmidt. Did you say.

B

Yes, yes, steve schnitt,.

A

I don't see a steve in the.

B

uh They may be together, they.

A

Okay, well, let me go ahead and uh so so jerry you're um a panelist. Now, if you have steve with you, you can go ahead and unmute um welcome, and so vice mayor ciao is just asking a question with regard to um you know competitive opportunities. I guess that your farmers market might have, and I assume other jurisdictions did you want to speak to that?

A

I'm not actually seeing jerry with a camera uh on or unmuted. So, okay.

L

This is jerry lawmy.

A

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L

Your speaker is not working. Please check your connection.

A

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A

Gary but um yeah.

L

I can anybody hear us? Yes, we can hear you.

A

I guess the question is: can you hear us hello hello? Can anybody hear us? Yes? Yes, we can hear you.

M

No come on. Please don't do this.

A

Oh sorry, it sounds like a technological issue um with regard to the volume.

N

Microsoft, getting involved in your conversation.

A

um So let's do this uh so, okay.

K

A

Can anybody hear us we can hear you? Yes.

A

Okay, um so let me go ahead and have vice mayor open um her comments back up and uh conclude with her initial questions and comments.

K

Yeah, maybe if the staff has their phone number, can try and contact them to resolve the technical issue. Oh the time, to finish my comment, yes, we can hear you. Can you hear me.

A

Okay, I'm just gonna go ahead and mute because obviously they have volume issues um so go ahead.

K

So, besides the anzac college, I wonder how about the parking lot at blackberry golf course. Would that be large enough and uh yeah? How about closing a street?

K

I think there are toga and uh campbell close there down small street connection or farmers market too, and then yeah, how about other companies like peggy mentioned pizza, hut or staple and or any companies that um my, but I at first, I thought church but sunday morning will be harder for church. Then the question is: does it have to be sunday morning? Could they work with uh other sundays, so maybe a church parking lot will be a possibility.

K

A

Okay, um I see joanne mcgreeney, our director of parks and rec.

A

uh Jerry, we can hear you, but can you hear us we were.

I

Having some problems.

A

How you doing mayor I'm doing well! Thank you, okay! So, let's, let's back up to vice mayor chow's, first question uh jerry welcome um and uh her first question was: do you have other opportunities, uh besides in cupertino, uh to place your farmers market as part of our set of considerations here.

L

uh Do we have other locations.

A

uh Other potential opportunities so that we can just understand the the scope of the the subject matter at this point uh you you know, we of course you know, appreciate your presence in cupertino, but my understanding of the vice mayor's question was whether we're kind of so to speak, competing against other jurisdictions uh for your organization's um presence each week.

L

No, sir, not at all on week, we currently we offer cupertino is my biggest and most loved market. We've been there since 2010, we have over 3 000 signatures in support from the residents of the area and uh everybody everybody loves it there. The uh the produce that is sold there is is amazing.

L

There are truckloads upon truckloads. um If, if I were to try to uh ask for an alternate location, I would love city council to consider toray avenue in florida city hall on a sunday which could be a street closure, and then the parking lot for the library and city hall could be utilized for parking.

L

I've been out there on sunday mornings and uh it's it's very, very quiet in that area.

L

um To be honest with you, we really appreciate everything the staff has done to try to uh suggest the four other smaller parks, but there is, there is just not adequate parking when we have upwards of 7000 residents that attend the sunday market on a weekly basis.

L

I myself do not believe there is any other event in cupertino that is better attended. I know that uh councilman wiley has done a phenomenal job in coming out and visiting the market, and seeing what's going on, um you yourself said that you were have attended. Why we've been at the cupertino oaks and if you look at the size of the parking lot of memorial park, it's the same size and structure that we had over in the cupertino oaks.

L

I heard rachel say that in the past that there was some problems with uh softball parking, softball hasn't been played for the better part of the last two years and and the the first week that we were there. We asked them to move their cars to the other side, which they did with no problem on.

L

We work very, very well with, with all the uh community staff out there and there's never been any problem with trash, um so we have a phenomenal home in memorial park, we're there from nine to one by two o'clock, everybody's gone and the park normally does not get busy until 2, 30 or 3, with uh people coming to barbecue and have their picnics.

L

So memorial park is a phenomenal location. It's it's. You know we, our our farmers market west coast. Farmers market is two to three times the size of the pacific coast. Farmers market- that's on that's on friday, and so I don't.

A

Know well jerry jerry thanks very much. Let me go ahead and um move to our city staff. At this point, I'm glad we were able to get the technical difficulties uh resolved and uh hopefully we can, you know, figure something out that works, but uh let's go to joanne and then uh jim, and so what we'll do is uh please address vice mayor, ciao's questions and comments and then we'll go on to councilman willie, uh director mcgreeney.

O

Sure, great um good evening, everyone um just wanted to address the parking lot out at blackberry, farm golf course. um Sunday is one of our most popular days, and so we wouldn't want to impact the user ship for that facility.

O

um So friday saturday sunday tends to be our most um utilized day out of the golf course, so I just wanted to address that one point. Thank you.

A

Okay, great thanks julian and uh jim. Did you have anything to add and follow up to the vice mayor's points.

C

um Yeah well one. I think if I correct me from wrong, but one of them was about the private property, and again I mentioned that earlier was that would be up to this. um You know the owner to go out and actually talk to whomever it would be via the pizza hut or if it happened to be a church or a synagogue or something that would be on to the owner. Any closure of any city streets would absolutely entail a cost to the city that we would then have to build that out.

C

For that, um as we reopen as a community, I think we're going to see even more people at the parking lot in the library section we're actually moving how we park our city cars, the ones like the city on to another location, just to open up the parking lot there for others.

C

um It's if you go there on the weekends, it's very busy. It hasn't been at the moment because of all the code restrictions, but it is getting busier and then, with the library, grand opening regrand opening that should bring more people out. um I you know, I think, the the best one for me. If I was going to put forth anything, would be talking for them to talk to the college at danza and look at using their large, very large parking area. um It's it's big. I've already talked to um some people there. They said.

C

Yes, that would be something they could look at. um There would be some costs involved, but if it is the largest one in the city, then um or.

M

In the area that would.

C

Be something that I'm sure could be covered by whatever you know, problems they might bring in but anyways. That was it. Thank you.

A

Okay, thank you um city manager, troop, let's go on to councilmember willie and next after after john we'll go to councilman moore all right, councilman.

P

Willie, okay, so I'll start by saying, thank you staff um for all your efforts and and uh what.

E

You've been able to do.

P

I also want to start by saying thank you uh farmer's market. Yes, I I've heard from a lot of people that this is an important staple for them in our community and should we lose it? I think it would be very tough to re-establish uh something where everybody understands. That is the hour uh things of that nature. Can it go to other locations sure so with that being said, you know a few other noteworthy things is I mean it's, he it's kind of seeming like we're up against a wall. You know I.

P

I appreciate that parks and rec needs to do work at memorial park and I'm a big pusher for you know getting that work going for memorial park, dead ponds for eight years is, is you know too much, but uh over the past year I I've been asking for this study session so that we can can try and find location options and I've been held at bay by the previous city manager, in fact even the interim city manager. So the fact that we're up against a a a wall right now, I don't think it's quite fair.

P

I don't think it's fair to the farmers market and I don't think it's really fair to us on the city council. I think we do need to have more time to consider these possible options of which you know they've been mentioned tonight, and so I think it is very possible that we will need to bring this back to us after these other locations have been further studied.

P

um I think I'll leave it at that for right now. Let me hear what the other council members have to say and then maybe I'll have a few more comments. Thank you. Okay,.

A

Thank you, councilmember willie. Let's go to councilmember moore at this time.

Q

Okay, um thank you mayor paul, uh so I I'm really curious about the de anza area. The the there is a really large parking lot as you've mentioned um and I'm concerned about the traffic, uh because I'm now hearing it's two to three times larger than the creekside market and that that generates quite a bit of traffic and I'm hearing seven thousand residents. So to me that means we need a location which is able to handle that much traffic coming in and out, uh which makes me first think.

Q

Dan's is probably the best choice and uh you might want to reach out to the board of trustees. President patrick arons, for that um he has in the past, expressed interest in having more uh the campus, be more open to the public on the weekends. So perhaps there is some something that could be negotiated there, uh or um perhaps I don't know if you could do something with mona visca vista high school, but they have to have so much traffic come through there because of their their student body.

Q

I don't know if that is a potential um location, but uh I'm thinking in terms of which one of these spaces has that much volume of traffic going through regularly and that would to me would be the the wisest place to relocate to. Thank you.

A

Great, thank you very much, councilman moore. Well, I don't see any further hands at this point. I I would very much like to reach an accommodation here. uh Vice mayor ciao, you do have your hand up, but let me go ahead and make some comments before uh following up and councilmember way, I see your hand is phrased for the first time so I'll go to you first uh before we go back to vice versa.

A

um You know my my comment at this point is that it does seem that um from from the staff report, um I I would say there's probably a preferred option. It looks like monte vista, but you know the the limitation in in space. I think, probably um you know, is something that's uh a serious consideration, not just with regard to the facilities, but um the the number of people that we might be um looking at, and uh you know relatively more neighborhood oriented park um off of federal expressway, but um you.

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A

Kind of inclined to um you.

E

Know I don't want to create.

A

Too many subcommittees, but you know I'm inclined to perhaps empower a couple of our council members to go forward and try to work with the community staff. The um you know the farmer's market to uh try to figure out where it might work um and uh let me get a quick follow-up detail. So is the farmers market happening in memorial park on a weekly basis right now and we're basically looking for um so so what will happen on this on this date when it ends or when will it end uh in memorial park?

A

Have we set uh that date at this point and uh jim you have your hand raised? Did you.

C

Yes, joanna jumped in too, but you know we have. We extended the contract already to give more time for this discussion to come forward, um and I can't remember joanna michelle. Is this the last iteration.

D

April 24th is currently when the amendment expires, and that's due to the fact that festivals are starting that next weekend.

A

Right so april uh about another another about a week more than that, okay, um so so it does seem. um You know fairly impending. uh We do have another regular council meeting before then in fact another two, but um let me let me go to councilmember way at this point. Councilmember way.

R

Thank you, mayor paul, so I have a couple questions um is this. um I know the farmers market is very important for our. You know our neighborhood and also um you know west valley, community services do profit to uh benefit from it and our um you know need the family benefit from it. But do we is this a for-profit organization, because I feel that our staff is really doing yoma's job to try to find a place and it seems they're just not a match.

R

It's still a way, a place like the ends of college, that I think that's an ideal place if they're willing to work with this farmers market directly and make a deal just like the uh flea market. I think that would be a real idea. I'm with council member, more worried about the traffic in the parking and monitor vista park seems to be the most place we can find. But it's it's. It's limited parking is in the neighborhood.

R

So is there any way they could collaborate with the ends of college and work, something out as a independent non-profit organization without a for-profit organization without our staff spending so much time. So maybe mayor paul's, suggesting to have a couple council members, world conferences, would be good too, because I know we're short of staff and we are having a lot of work done on this thing. We do want to provide wrestling service, yeah.

A

I appreciate that customer way and you know I will know that um april 5th- is our next regular council meeting. That would give us, I think, three weeks between now and then, but um let's go to city manager, troop um c major. Did you have follow-up comment? Customer way's uh comment.

C

Yeah, thank you mayor. It was just a quick follow-up quiz. Yes, I like I said earlier. I had reached out to uh the college and had some brief initial discussions and they were open to um talking about it. They actually had talked about um attempting to go through with the board and waving I forgot, which fee it was now we're waiving one of the fees there. There would still be some costs involved, such as potential cleanup.

C

If there was additional trash that wasn't able to get like trash cans or something like that, it was, um but the college did say they would be interested in talking. So I can get that contact information. I can remember the person's name at the moment, um but we can get that to the farmers market. People.

A

Okay, great thank you, jim um yeah, and before I go to uh vice mayor, ciao again and so um yeah. Let me just elaborate on that point about maybe forming subcommittee. What I would hope is that we could come back on our april 5th meeting and just have.

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A

A public update on our consent calendar, hopefully it would turn out to be a great. You know, story at the end and location was um you know found, but, but I think ultimately, you know jim raise a really good point in the sense that this is ultimately a private entity and um yeah. We can certainly do what we can um as.

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A

To uh try to help it, especially given the fact that it impacts so many of our residents, um but I think that ultimately it would be an update if it came back on april 5th. In um you know a non-consent context. um Of course, if there was an ask, we could uh consider that as well at that point, but uh vice mayor ciao, your hands raised. So let's uh go to you at this point before I ask for a motion on this item or direction.

K

Okay, so it seems my understanding now is before this wasn't a work program item, so city staff didn't have time and uh was pretty reluctant to work on this, because this is not really an item for them. Therefore, there may have not been uh enthusiastic of communication with dianza, and that sounds like this. I think this kind of conversation should be driven by west coast farmers market, not the city staff or council members, and I think we have also enthusiastic volunteers who are willing to make find a way to make it work.

K

It sounds like there should be a committee, but maybe west coast farmers market and the two avid volunteers who knows, ins and outs of the operation should be on the committee too, and maybe one or two council members can help communicate with the anza, but then they should be really driving it, not the city staff or even the city council, but we would do everything we can to help to support that, because this really benefits our residents.

K

I think that should be our position right. Thank you. Okay,.

A

Thanks westmoretrau and let's go to council member more next.

Q

Hey um thank you mayor paul. I kind of have a different idea on that. I think it might actually be helpful to the farmers market if they were to have a subcommittee which included the mayor and council member willie because he's it sounds like he's done a great deal of research, so I I would, I think that might um help and and however it turns out, I think it's important that we, you know, bridge the gap between us and and danza college. We did um pass this.

Q

You know huge 890 million dollar bond measure um and we've had the issue with flint center, so I think, connecting with them. Overall, I think, would be beneficial for both sides.

A

Sure um yeah and you know I appreciate that my primary concern with my own schedule is just availability. Frankly, um with a lot of um you know, items on my plate, but um let's see what councilmember williams said: councilman roy.

P

Yeah, um I I support your your thought on the uh subcommittee and a little more time. uh You know I'll just go back. I would like to hear from jerry and steve the festival that's at memorial park the week after the current uh extension expires.

P

What are their thoughts on where they would relocate if they needed to relocate for that one weekend, this is kind of a joint question to joanne. Of course, I said you know I want to see memorial park. Progress start moving along, but we are talking only about one day of the week sunday and so, even if it needed to be extended for another few weeks.

P

While I mean let's see if we can't do it before then, but it, but you know, are: are the trucks going to be actively working on sundays or can I think the farmers market needs a little bit of stability in the decisions over this last year? As the city manager said, they've had four extensions, but each time you know they've come to me and said our our extension is running out.

P

Can you please help us to get it extended to me that just has not been fair to this entity that they needed the city to be more proactive, rather than just you know, telling them hey. You've got an extension and that it's going to expire when it's going to expire without you know anything coming behind it, and so maybe it's a little bit on the farmers market to start, you know, have been more proactive themselves, realizing it wouldn't last forever.

P

But I do like your uh subcommittee a little bit of time uh for us. You know monte vista high schools that councilman moore mentioned wow, that's something that hasn't been taught, or maybe one of the other schools. We know our cusd.

P

Would uh you know really like to to provide services if they can be somewhat compensated like our uh joint use agreements, so the other schools might be uh uh on action that we should be exploring so I'll leave it at that I'd, be willing to uh assist with the subcommittee and come back at the earliest possible time. Thank you.

A

Great thanks very much councilmember wooley. um Let me ask um our our attendee uh jerry jerry. Let.

M

Me go ahead, uh jerry.

A

I I know you didn't want to go back as a panelist, but um oh.

E

No here you are okay,.

A

um Did you want to speak to your willingness to participate uh in this subcommittee, which would be comprised of a couple of council members and yourself um to try to reach out to? I think you know de anza college um specifically, but perhaps other um entities to see? If we can, you know try to find find you guys a home going forward um in cupertino.

A

Is that something that you'd be willing to spend some time in the next few weeks, working on.

L

I will do anything I can to help to help find a new location. I would love to work with uh the council members absolutely.

A

Okay, great, thank you, jerry uh much appreciated, and so um let me go ahead and make a motion. Then um you know I'd love to help honestly, uh but it's really a matter of of just being able to coordinate everything.

A

I would propose that we have a subcommittee comprised of vice mayor chow and council member willie uh to work with um jerry as the proprietor of the organization to reach out to various you know, entities or um even private entities to try to find a location for the west coast farmers market going forward council member willie. I see your hand raised. Would you like to second that motion.

P

I actually really do want to be the one to second, your motion. Thank you great. Thank you very much.

A

uh So so that's the motion and the seconds on the table. um I don't see further hands raised at this time, but I do see um well, chris, did you turn your camera on? For a reason, uh our our city attorney turned his camera, so I just want to make sure that we're not um you know running in direct, unbelievable requirements.

S

No, I just I just noticed that it had turned off.

A

Okay, got it got it okay, uh great, so uh councilmember will your hand is raised um if you don't have any further comment, I'll go ahead and ask the city clerk to conduct the roll call vote. But did you want to have further deliberation on this motion.

P

Yeah yeah, you know I want to be very respectful. You know the vice mayor is very swamped. I mean you're very swamped, she's, very swamped. um I'm I'm happy to work with the vice mayor, absolutely fan, but yeah. You know I want to give her the the opportunity to say that you know she's over taxed. I I would be happy to work with councilman uh way. Councilman moore, who you know the objective is simply what other locations might work for the farmers market. You know it, it's not something that requires any.

P

uh You know particular expertise. So thank you.

A

uh I see councilmember way with a hand raised councilmember. Why did you.

R

I I let my vice mayor charles, have to first say: if she really doesn't want to do it I'll, be happy to work with council member willie great.

A

Thank you, councilmember white uh vice merchant.

K

um Yeah, I I'm happy to do it. I I hope it's, the short term will find us. We need to find it in one month right, yeah,.

A

Great well, thank you very much. I really really appreciate that, um and so um you know, let me let me return um to deliberation and staff. I I really appreciate the extra time the staff has spent on this, and you know clearly with the the numbers and the um you know service that this provides. You know, obviously you know fresh uh fresh fruits and vegetables. You know it's extremely important. um I I would like to ask that staff uh help out the subcommittee with a subsequent staff report.

A

um You know when uh comes back, hopefully on april 5th. So um is that something that you feel we need to add to the motion in order to um you know secure that support uh mr city manager, or could that just you know be understood, as you know,.

C

That assistance- oh thank you mayor. um No, we can. We can work on. You know if everything's cleared up, we can work on a short staff report, for you.

A

Okay, great much appreciated and vice versa,.

K

uh Just a request that please forward whoever you have contacted with the answer college uh to us, so we can get in contact them as soon as possible. Yeah. Thank you.

A

That's perfect, uh thank you vice chow, and so uh with no further hands raised. Madam city clerk, would you please conduct a roll call vote on this motion.

B

Member moore aye council member way, aye council member willie hi vice mayor ciao, aye, mayor paul.

A

B

Motion carries unanimously thank.

A

You, madam city clerk, and so that concludes our special meeting and we will go ahead and convene for our regular meeting in 12 minutes. It's 6 33 right now. We will see you at 6 45.. Thank you very much.

A

Everyone today is march 15 2022.. This is the regularly scheduled meeting of the cupertino city council, madam city clerk, could you please conduct the roll call.

B

Council member moore here, council member way, yeah council member willie here vice mayor ciao here mayor paul.

A

And I'm here, thank you very much, madam city clerk. The first item on our agenda tonight for this regular meeting is under ceremonial matters and presentations. I'm pleased to be able to recognize the receipt of the california society of municipal finance officers or the csmfo innovation award on behalf of our cupertino city council and the recommended action is to do precisely that mr city manager, jim troop. Do we have a staff presentation on this item.

C

um Yes, thank you, mayor council. um We do and I'm going to actually turn this over to christine alfaro our administrative services director.

A

Great thank you. Jim welcome director alfaro.

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O

You and I'm actually going to.

D

Quickly turn it over to thomas liam, our senior management analyst who's. Actually, um the person behind these two awesome tools he's going to show to you this evening.

A

uh Great and before we turn over thomas, um you know christina, I'm really glad that we were able to deliver this to the public. I remember it was a conversation between you and me a couple of years ago that actually uh kid struck kick-started this. I don't remember if it was in a public meeting or uh if we're just having conversation, but I'm glad to see these tools being delivered and so without further ado. Thomas welcome.

T

Thank you mayor paul good evening, mayor and city council. I'm pleased to report that the city of cupertino has won the 2022 innovation award from the california society of municipal finance officers.

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Be discussing the award and then going through a brief demonstration of these tools. The california society of municipal finance, officers or csmfo is an organization serving california municipal finance professionals. It promotes excellence and financial management through innovation, continuing education and professional development.

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The csmfo innovation award recognizes innovation in public sector finance, an innovation award review panel of csmfo board members and the recognition committee leadership scores the applications. The review panel looks for originality, purpose, practicality and transferability, csmfo awarded the city of cupertino, the 2020 innovation award for the city's resident tax calculator and budget forecastable.

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This is the first time that the city has received this award, and this highlights the city's commitment to innovation. Despite unique challenges presented by the pandemic, the resident tax calculator.

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Gives residents personalized estimates of how much they pay in sales and property taxes when a resident enters how much they spend on goods and services and the assessed value of their home? The calculator shows them how much they pay in taxes and where those taxes go. This tool was first released in january 2021.

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in october 2020. The city also hosted a meeting to allow residents to test the beta version and provide feedback. This group, which included mayor paul and councilmember moore, provided valuable feedback that influenced the final design of this tool.

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The goal of this tool is to show residents how taxes are calculated, show them how taxes are distributed amongst agencies and also show residents.

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Which city services are funded.

T

By these tax dollars, next I'll move.

C

T

To the budget forecast tool, the budget forecast tool allows resident residents to build their own version of the city's budget forecasts.

T

This tool was first shared with the public at a community budget workshop budget invites in april 2021 at this virtual workshop residents were able to build their own budget forecasts and communicate with the group how they came up with their own budget forecast.

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Residents can select from various revenue and spending options and then immediately see how each choice impact impacts the surplus or deficit.

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The goal of this tool is to illustrate long-term impacts of budget decisions, as well as demonstrate trade-offs between these budget decisions and finally, promote informed discussion around fiscal sustainability. Now I'll walk you through the resident tax calculator.

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So first we ask residents how much do they spend in cupertino in a year, and so we have a variety.

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Of options between.

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500 all the way till several 100 000, and if you hover over this box, you can also see that certain items are excluded from sales. Tax, such as groceries or cold foods, are bakery foods, etc.

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Then, once you enter that information, you can see how much you pay in sales tax and also how much the city receives. So if somebody spent 12 000 in a year.

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Or around a thousand dollars a month.

T

The city would receive a thousand dollars and eighty dollars or nine percent of that and then so total sales tax would be a thousand dollars and 80 1080, and then the city would receive 11 of that or 120.

T

And here on this chart, you can see that the state of california receives the largest portion at 67 percent and other portions also go to bta and accounting.

T

On the next page, we ask residents whether they own a home or not. If they say yes, then we ask them what is the assessed value of their property.

T

And so again they can select between a variety of options and then from here we can see that if the property is assessed at two million dollars, property tax would be one percent of that and the city would receive six point, five percent of that or thirteen hundred dollars, and here hovering over these uh slices of this chart. We can see that other portions go to the santa clara county school districts and the educational revenue augmentation fund, as well as other special districts.

T

And then you can also see a description of what this agency does and a link to their website.

T

And then on this page you can see the city's share by each service. So here we have sales tax, the city receiving a hundred and twenty dollars in sales tax and thirteen hundred dollars in property tax for a total of fourteen hundred- and you can see that the largest shares go towards public works, funding, public works and law enforcement can also see the types of expenses at this funds, and you can see that the largest shares would go to contract services, employee compensation and employee benefits.

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And to learn, learn more: you can go to the financial transparency portal or look at our budget at a glance at this time, I'll be describing our budget forecast tool.

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So this is a hypothetical scenario for illustrative purposes. Only it's a simplification of a budget process, but some of the numbers may be similar to an actual budget. First users can select a scenario for sales, tax, property tax.

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And transient occupancy tax or hotel tax, which are three largest revenue sources from there, they can select a variety of ongoing and one-time expenses.

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And, as you can see, every time somebody makes a choice.

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Annual surpluses and deficits are impacted, as well as the total revenues total expenses and total surplus to deficit at the top, and finally, residents can also choose a revenue generation measures such as additional tax or an expense reduction strategy to reduce expenses, and so these are options that can help balance. That budget.

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And so the resident tax calculator and budget forecast tool provide innovative solutions for promoting fiscal transparency and engaging residents in the city's budget process. They are available at cupertino.org, interactive budget tools.

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More information is also available at the city's budget page as well as the city's interactive financial transparency portal opengl.

T

Finally, I'd like to thank everyone who contributed to these tools. This includes staff who beta tested early versions and residents and city council members who attended our user groups and community budget workshops. Thank you. I look.

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To your questions.

A

Great, thank you so much thomas really greatly appreciated and let's go ahead and um well. Let me read off the urls cupertino.org forward, slash budget and cupertino.org forward. Slash open gov, that's one word: o p e n g o v. uh Typically, we only provide three five minutes for uh presentations under this uh ceremonial items and presentations um uh heading, but uh this is the public's money, and so we wanted to provide uh the 10 to 15 minutes, and you know thomas thanks very much for as usual being really uh efficient and succinct about it.

A

A lot of great information in there I do see council member willie with a hand raised and councilmember willie. Did you want to ask a question or make a brief comment.

P

uh A little bit of booth so uh thomas. Thank you very much for that uh very enlightening.

P

So the question slash comment, the question being so, how are you letting the community know that we have this, that they can go and try have you done community outreach or you know, what's that, and then I have a question or a comment.

T

So the community outreach that we've done so far would be one. We have had a community budget workshop. That was just a small group to test the calculator and then we last year we had a budget and bytes budget where we demonstrated the forecast tool- and I think this year we also plan to promote these tools at a budget and bytes community budget workshop, as well as a budget study session. And then we also plan to do further outreach using social media.

P

Great so then the the comment would be. You know I I'm 100 focused on resident engagement, making sure we're engaging with it so the cupertino scene. I think this should kind of be on the cover you know so that it really is visible to get the word out. I would then also go that you know I could see this type of tool really sparking the interest of a significant number of high school students.

P

They need to do projects in their classes, and here they could actually create their own so-called budget options and kind of learn some cognitive skills. For what is a budget? You know it's not unlimited money and carry that with them. You know in life, so I'm not sure how we would reach out to the schools to let them know but plant the seed that maybe you can figure something along that line. But thank you very much.

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A

Thank you, councilmember willie, and so let's go on to councilmember way and councilman way. I will note that we do have one member of the public with a hand raised, and so uh why don't you make your uh question and or comments and we'll go to the member of the public to see if they want to speak on this item.

R

A

Wait: okay, great so under the attendees I see someone labeled calling user two uh in user 2. I will go ahead and push the allow to talk button. I believe you'll need to push star 6 if you want to speak on this item. This is our presentation item regarding the budget tools and so wait another few seconds, if you unmute yourself, uh feel free to speak on this item.

U

I'm sorry actually um yeah respect to the council members actually for the oral communication. Okay,.

A

We will get back to you in a moment: okay, thanks, very much. Okay, so let's go to councilmember way. You had your hand raised and I'll just remind everyone. um This is a great topic, of course, um but uh let's keep it with presentations. We have a pretty. um You know anticipated to be a fairly packed agenda tonight, so councilmember white.

R

Thank you mayor, paul, very short, um just congratulations. I'm so glad our staff are innovative. Maybe the team commission can take it over and play with. It could be good family activities too.

A

Thanks councilman roy yeah, great tool, uh well done our finance department, and so uh let's go on to item number two on our agenda and I believe that is council contacts. These are contacts since the last council meeting on march. First, that are not our committee assignments, um however, hold on. Let me refer to the agenda. I believe we probably have oral communications before that. If I'm not mistaken, yes, actually another thing, um madam city clerk saw all backup uh we're not on item two we're at postponements and orders of the day.

A

Madam city clerk, do we have any postponements or orders of the day from staff requested.

B

Yes, mayor staff requests continuing item number eight regarding consideration of the application deadline and interview dates for the teen commission annual recruitment until april 5th.

A

Until april 5th, uh does staff provide a reason for that.

B

To collect more information for council make some adjustments and um be able to come back with a more complete staff report.

A

Okay, that sounds uh workable uh to me and let me go ahead and ask our counsel whether there are any requests under postponements and orders of the day. Councilmember moore.

Q

uh Thank you, mayor paul. I was wondering um well, let's see if I can combine all this um I'd like to move that item 14 be placed on consent and that we uh per the staff recommendation that we continue item eight to april. um Fifth,.

A

Okay, well, thank you very much, councilman moore. That should uh work to make our um meeting more efficient here and so again the fact that you were the person who um were the driving force behind number 14. I will go ahead and second, that I appreciate that. I appreciate your pointing out the drone policy and the need for one um and uh item eight is, as under uh staff requested. I do have a member of the public with a hand raised at this point.

A

I don't see any further council uh hands raised and so I'm assuming that there are no other postponements and orders of the day requested and so that member of the public has uh lowered her hand um in anticipation. I think of me unmuting her, uh so so. Thank you very much for that. So let me go ahead and um take a roll call vote on that.

A

So again, this is uh postponing item number eight until april fifth and then for item number fourteen that would uh place it onto our consent, calendar and so, madam city clerk, would you please conduct a roll call vote for that.

B

A

Oh vice mayor ciao, I apologize you, you have your hand raised and so I'm adam slater clerk. I retract that request to take the roll call vote. Vice mayor ciao, you have a question or a comment.

K

um So when so, I I think I sent the staff an email earlier that I'd like to pull this item, because I thought we should consider four team commission um seats this year so that we can balance that out. um Otherwise, the students this year have only three seats to compete for okay uh before.

A

You deliver why the staff would I'm going to stop you there please talk, I I need to stop you there, because this is a procedural matter as to whether we uh postpone it to april 5th, and so before you get into deliberating on the substance of the matter.

A

um Let me go and just suggest to you that uh this is a deliberation over whether we should postpone it, and so, if you say, if you want to not postpone it and consider it now, because you have substantive deliberation on it, just uh so state just say that basically.

K

Have substances what what's the reason for postponing.

A

uh The reason for postponing according to our city clerk was that this that the staff want to do a little bit more follow-up. With regard to um the um the the the item um and so madison clerk did.

K

You want everything, is there already so what's.

A

K

Let me rewrite.

A

This um and I see our city attorney- has a microphone um on as well. Chris did you want to speak to this.

S

Yeah so so I I just identified a concern I had with the the staff recommendation and that was done late, um so you know, but I think it's better, that we go back and take another look at it before presenting the information.

A

Okay, um so city attorney had a legal concern about it, so we won't be scheduling anything until it comes back correct or we wouldn't okay.

A

um So so uh vice mayor that that's um you know you can bring up your concern on april 5th motion passes, but um you're you're concerned about wanting to talk about it in substance. At this point is noted, um is it was there anything else that you wanted to um bring up without getting into the substance of the item itself, because this is a procedural okay?

A

Okay, thanks vice mayor ciao, um madame city clerk, could you please conduct that roll call vote? Please.

B

Council, member moore, all right council member way: hi council member willie hi vice mayor, ciao, hi, mayor paul.

A

B

Motion carries unanimously thank.

A

You very much madam city clerk. We are on to oral communications. Oral communications have to do with any item on our agenda. That is not um well any any matter of public interest. That is not um on our agenda this evening, and so, if you want to speak to um a matter that is not agendized.

A

This is your chance to speak that so oral communications are three minutes per um the practice.

A

This year, I will be calling on hands that have their hands raised in the zoom function before the first speaker is done speaking and so here, and I will remind people that we do have a few items on our agenda tonight, if you have your hand raised for, for instance, the extremely low income housing issue of number 10 or the cusd school closure item of item 12 you'll want to lower your hand and speak to that on that particular item, because that would not be an oral communication on a non-agendized item.

A

Okay, so right now I have calling user two with a hand raised jenny and san rao and so calling user. Two welcome. You'll have three minutes.

U

Hello, um thank you mayor and the respect of the council and all the audience. um Actually, when you I need to mention, is this city somehow become one of the most self-interested city anywhere on earth? And um you know the um well. The big thing happened, the city's his private property and in the backyard and was a fairly small buildup. Only you actually was on that property and uh it was and surely were told many times doesn't, need a permit and uh subsequently actually got symbolic.

U

Primary, sounds and uh um and also told her many times, and she nothing should happen and under that situation and and the stew was the different party somehow for their own interest, find a different case, um not the original one and take advantage of the situation and take financial permit actually to the symbolic one.

U

So we don't know anything, could it happen and got torn down and take everything away, including the personal prop personnel around you too, and uh and this kind of things that you don't even hear in different kind of paddle world and in under this kind of full democratic country.

U

So we we want the reform university and for other parties underhanded and involving decision making, having this cruel and ethical decisions, and, um and also you do better in the city and you're talking about this financial budget.

U

All these kind of policies, and certainly you put to the parties if this city couldn't have any parties doing this work for the old city, then in the city, and need a third party independently help the citizen in the city, and um so that's the main thing we are talking about, and certainly the reform in the society and and then and become less self-interested and for something nothing to do with them in people's backyard and make all these decisions so, and I hope this city doing better.

U

A

Thank you very much. Our next speaker is jenny, followed by sam rau and our final oral communication speaker is rick. Kitson welcome jenny.

V

Thank you, mayor hi, I'm jennifer griffin and I recently mentioned I think, during oral probably two weeks ago that um there was a new bill submitted ab 2097, which is exposed to not allow cities to have parking minimums for new construction. In this I mean across the state, um this is replacing a bill that died in late january ab1401, um the this bill. The new bill ab2097, was submitted by assemblymember, laura friedman, I believe, she's from glendale southern california and senator weiner and assembly member nancy skinner, um I'm.

V

I am dumbfounded that bills like this are continuously introduced and passed. Well, I'm going to say in this situation the legislator had the foresight to not pass 1401 um again bills like this, when, when elected officials submit bills like this, they are not considering any of the public's voices across the state. It's basically carbon copy.

V

Someone wanted us to have this happen. We made the bill, we submitted it. We expect it to be passed, but we have not asked the public. We have not announced to the public. We have not told the public, we don't want the public's input. This happened over and over again. I think the housing bills are glaring examples of this, so we need to keep our eyes on ab 2097 and its progression.

V

I hope that there is some wisdom in our elected officials in sacramento that they see that having something like this bill put across the state at one time without asking the public is a complete travesty. This is not a democratic way of doing this. This bill. Will you won't have any parking in new construction. That means that all the cars are going to be parked in the adjacent neighborhoods flooding, the whatever whoever is around them: uh single-family homes, multi-family homes, apartments, etc, etc. Haven't asked anybody's input.

V

We just decided that we think that this is the best thing for the whole state and let's slap it in, and then we get after the cities like a year from now. If this this bill would go into effect, I'm assuming 23, I have 13 seconds the whole state, then every city would be reprimanded by hcd, the government etc. Let's don't do that again, let's learn from sb 35 disaster.

V

A

Thank you jenny. Our next speaker is san rao. Welcome, sam.

F

Yes, thank you city council, for allowing me to speak, I'm a resident of cupertino and also a parent in cusd.

F

The reason I speak today is because I would like to request the council and the staff to take a look at the enforcement of traffic that is happening in the morning hours between 8 a.m and 8 30 a.m. By any of our schools in the city of cupertino, you will find that parents are being repeatedly issued citations by the santa clara county sheriff's department for violations that you may consider in the law legally, but are violations that are fairly small in the grand scheme of things. I will give you an example.

F

One of the violations that is repeatedly cited on pepper tree lane by ferrier elementary every morning or at least three days a week is an illegal u-turn. If traffic is within 200 feet of the car, the traffic on pepper, peperty lane is at crawling pace.

F

Cars are stopped at the pedestrian crossing to let kids cross and parents are probably seeing traffic at 10 miles an hour or less. If a u-turn is made to use parking on the other side of the road immediately parents get cited, we have crime happening in cupertino every single day.

F

Every day we have a burglary happening at the nights in cupertino we have car break-ins that happen routinely in the parking lots of holford's target and so on, and yet it is parents that are having to face tickets day in and day out uh and and being cited for reasons that really you cannot, you cannot help but wonder what is the priority of our sheriff's department. Here I request the city of cupertino to conduct a study by doing some spot checks around our schools of the ticketing.

F

That is happening, and I request the city to please work with the santa clara county sheriff's department to have their priorities, set straight, to focus on crime, to focus on break-ins and to focus on patrols of our neighborhood streets, so that residents feel safer and the enemy here is crime. It is not parents trying to drop their kids out of school. I request your attention to this matter. Thank you for allowing me to speak.

A

Thank you, sam and our next and final speaker under oral communications is rick. Kitson welcome, rick.

W

Thank you, mr mayor council. Members just wanted to say a quick word while I was at the meeting this evening. If people look around and have noticed that everything seems a little busier, a little less parking a little more traffic. uh That's because it is busier. I think we're signs are that we're coming out of the pandemic.

W

One of those signs is that.

W

Every saturday for the rest of the month, there will be a new business opening in cupertino. Thank you to council members and mr mayor for attending the care plus md opening right across the street from city hall. This coming saturday on the 19th sun, acupuncture wellness clinic, is opening up in monte vista and on the 26th. We have lilikoi boba that will be opening also that's at 2pm and those business openings are over and above other events that are coming up.

W

We have the uh food and wine stroll coming up on the 24th, a popular event outdoors, and also, um and also great food and great wine. This year from throughout northern california, we have some duck horn coming down and calera coming down from saint helena, so some great offerings and beyond that, as if that were not enough at the april 1st lac, we have a forum of our three candidates for district attorney.

W

So hopefully you will join us for that and immediately following uh sign up for the annual chefs of compassion so yeah, it is busier we're coming out of the pandemic and, that's frankly, a good problem. Hope to see you at some of the upcoming events.

A

Thank you rick, and that concludes oral communications. We're on to item number two on our agenda. This is under the larger heading reports by council and staff. Item number two is a set of brief reports on council member activities and brief announcements since our march 1st meeting- and I remind everyone that this is not having to do with our formal committee assignments that are divvied out in december, would anyone like to go first, um and this is very brief.

A

We have five minutes in total for all of our council, and so everyone is allocated roughly a minute for these summaries and so council. Member way, please.

R

Stop I'll just report on one item because um we attended that a few of us who attended aapa's leaders luncheon hosted by everload. It was a good networking and I've seen mayor, paul and uh rasmus out there. So it was a good uh networking opportunity I'll leave the rest of the rest of the council.

A

Okay, thank you councilmember way, let's go to vice mayor ciao,.

K

Hi um yeah I attended the same luncheon. It was hosted by assembly member evan lowe at the new dynasty on bollinger. It's called granite dynasty, so we finally have a meeting location around here. Unfortunately, it's in western jose proper, I mean sales tax goes there, but on the fifth I attended, a national um northern california joined alumni association for colleges from taiwan and the way with the mayor this they they are appointing their new president and board and then on the 12th.

K

I attended the grand opening of care, plus medical care plus and the uh internist clinic- that's opened here, so we will have some new grand opening coming up. So I'm happy to see. um That's business is coming back to normal and also I'm so happy that I couldn't find the parking on saturday at the at the shopping mall I thought wow. This is cool. Business is back into uh as usual.

A

Nick vice mayor next we have council member willie yeah.

P

Thank you mayor, I'm gonna stretch it just a little bit. You know ukraine is so far away from us, but it is being so devastated.

P

The artwork behind me is from children in poland from uh ukraine the little picture of a girl trying to make the best of this situation. I think we all need look for ways that we can help show our support.

P

I would hope that we would have you know a few uh uh gatherings or marches around here like we're seeing in europe. It's just horrendous and I'll leave it at that. Thank you. Thank you.

A

Councilmember wooley um I'll go with a brief summary. um I have had a lot of interfaces with caltrans to get a litter cleanup event on t for us at 9 30 this saturday, that's going to be from 9 30 to noon.

A

We actually have a double success here, because vta is holding its own event as well, and so this is all at the uh 280 de anza exit, and so of course there are four different. You know places we could go. We could go to the off-ramps and the on-ramps on both 280, north and 20 south and rest assured. If you're interested in volunteering, um they will be closing off uh the on-ramps and off-ramps uh during that time.

A

So the safety issue is not a concern with regard to cars and we'll be going ahead and having training from caltrans as well. So uh thanks for uh anyone and everyone who is interested and uh will participate in that, and so let me go ahead and uh check in with councilmember moore, because more did you want to provide any updates? Okay, so uh great, though, thank you for uh helping us move meeting long, and we have item number three that is report on those committee assignments. I was referencing earlier.

A

uh These are council committee assignments and councilmember moore. Let's have you kick it off for our committee assignments, since our march 1st meeting and you'll need to unmute yourself.

Q

Oh, I hit it. Okay. On march 10th, I chaired the vta pack and, most importantly, we went over the grant funding opportunities the cities have, and our staff member on the tac will also be seeing these grant opportunities opportunities as well. Vta is a resource for our staff members seeking these multiple grants in order to match projects to the transportation grants available. So hopefully our staff will be reaching out to them and I'll be checking back, probably on a monthly basis to see what kind of grant opportunities our city is applied for. Thank you.

A

Thank you very much council member moore, and we have council member willie next.

P

Okay, thank you mayor. So we had our monthly silicon valley, clean energy uh meeting the noteworthy items uh this time uh entering into a uh an agreement with goal line, free energy storage, just to kind of let the the community know what's going on lots of solar lots of uh other renewable energy during the day. But that's not when the demand is the the real demand is when you get home in the evenings.

P

So by entering into these storage agreements, where that uh renewable energy is is uh taken during the day and stored, so that it can be used in the evening to reduce our reliance on the fossil fuels.

P

The second item is it just today the ribbon cutting for slate solar, that silicon energy has an agreement with to buy the solar.

P

The noteworthy thing here is for uh for residents that are buying their power through uh silicon valley, clean energy, the silicon valley, clean energy has to enter into these purchase agreements with the renewable suppliers, as opposed to getting it directly from pg e, with traditional fossil fuel or nuclear power plants, and so with each and every one that they purchase or make an agreement purchase agreement with that that provider needs to then go build that uh that supply and that's what the kickoff was today for one of the existing uh purchase agreements and again it's uh the slate solar and storage and so I'll leave it at that.

P

A

Thank you very much councilmember willie and so um I'll go ahead with my updates. From last time. For march 1st, we had a march 3rd vta board meeting, and so one thing I will report out from there is that vta is looking and has approved the purchase of a fleet of paratransit shuttles, um roughly 15 million dollars. They are gas combustion and they did kind of remind me of our recent purchase of leaf blowers. I know everyone's making very good faith efforts.

A

You know to electrify uh the technology, isn't quite you know as fast as we like it to be, but um you know I'd really like to be able to follow this and make sure that we're doing what we can uh in that regard. I made a comment to that point at our vta board meeting and I.

E

Think, generally,.

A

People, you know, uh agree, it's just a matter of the the pragmatic um realities of of what we can do at this point. um On the ninth, I had a meeting with our commissioner representatives and um I'd like to remind everyone to get your crest award nominations in by this friday.

A

um They are for rising star volunteer of the year organization of the year and lifetime achievement award, um and uh it may be an open question as to whether we go back to the old crest format. If you have, um you know, opinions and thoughts about that. Please feel free to email, uh city council, um but you know for this iteration we have the uh relatively newer format, and so those applications are due for the nominations for these types of crest awards.

A

By this friday on march 10th, the cities association met we're going to have a very significant time coming up within the next month, uh which is when we transition back to live meetings, and so um under the brown act uh in california, uh under normal conditions.

A

If you video into a meeting, you have to go ahead and video in and and post a notice as to um you know where you are so that the public can come to that particular address and give public communications, and so one of the things that we did at our board meeting for the cities. Association of santa clara county was to refer the question of ab1944 to our respective councils or legislative review committees.

A

Ab1944 is legislation brought forth by our local legislators? I believe uh not just um assemblymember lee, but also assembly, member lowe and um senator cortezzi are bringing forth uh this idea of not having to post the notice for video conference meetings, and so that would affect video conference meetings going forward as well as hybrid meetings.

A

Possibly, and so uh this general topic is of course, a very significant import to everyone right now, we've gone through as, as we all know, a couple years of the video conferencing meetings, and so um they would also, I think, uh tend to lead to collateral questions as well. um We're not necessarily gonna solve all of these things at one point, um but uh certainly those discussions are happening on both the uh you know, direct and the legislative levels. So uh that's my update. Does anyone else have committee assignment updates since our march 1st meeting?

A

If not I'm, going to move us on to item 4 on our agenda, that will be our city manager update uh mr city manager, jim troop, do you have uh updates for us from march? First.

C

um Thank you, marin. Actually, that's that's sort of a good segue it's this is going to be my last covet update, so you've had it from some other people. This will probably be allowed. It should be the last one. So if you recall just a few weeks back a month ago, or so, we were at roughly 6 000 cases on a a seven day, average we're down to 226.

C

So it looks like things are somewhat under control and hoping it stays that way um and, as you said, we're looking at going back to in-person meetings. So I want to let everyone know that our first in-person meeting since the outbreak, which our last one was in march of 2020. I believe it's going to be this next meeting on april 5th, so those that are watching online. If you want to come down to our community hall and join us, that would be great, we'll be doing a hybrid version.

C

So if you don't want to attend inversion, you can still watch us online and the other part is we'll be opening our city hall to walk in traffic on april 11th. So essentially, the next week, as well as most other city facilities, and that was all I have for tonight. Thank you.

A

Great, thank you very much. Jim and now we are on to our consent, calendar our I'll, remind everyone that, under um postponements and orders of the day, we postpone item number eight on our consent calendar, and so this would regard items number five, six, seven and nine, and so um would any member of the public like to speak.

A

um I I do see our city manager as well as councilmember moore, have their hands raised. Let me check in with them. First a city, I'm sorry city attorney rather city attorney jensen. Did you have a comment that you want to make with regard to this.

S

I think I might have the same comment as councilmember moore is is in that we we also uh uh moved item number 14 to the consent. Calendar.

A

Oh right, thank you very much um uh uh excellent point uh and and good memory. Councilman moore uh was that indeed your comment giving that your hand is still up. Yes, I'm waiting to second, okay, great um I'm going to go ahead and um move since the the request is there for a uh well. Would you like to make the motion uh council member more? I don't see any members of the public with their hands raised and so um I'll just go ahead and bring it back to council.

A

Did you want to make that motion for items? Five? Six, seven, nine and fourteen.

Q

Yes, I move that we accept consent, agenda items, five through seven, nine and 14.

A

Okay, uh great and as recommended in the agenda, correct: okay, great well, thank you very much. Councilmember moore, appreciate it and councilmember white. Are you great uh so more moves waste seconds? I don't see any further hands raised on our consent, calendar and so madam city clerk, could you please conduct the roll call.

B

Councilmember moore hi councilmember way: hi councilmember, willie hi, nice mayor, ciao, hi, mayor paul. Yes, the motion carries unanimously.

A

Thank you very much, madam city clerk. We are on to item number 10.. We don't have any second readings of ordinances or public hearings tonight under ordinances and action items.

A

Subject: uh 10 for item 10 is uh progress on our fiscal year 2021 to 2022 council work program item and that item is to develop extremely low income and below market rate housing units for developmentally disabled individuals on city-owned property along mary avenue and so I'll bring this over to our city manager, mr city manager, troop. Would you like to go ahead and introduce the staff presenter for this item number 10. yeah.

C

Thank you, mayor and council. I'm actually going to I'll first introduce benfu our community development director to move forward on this one, but it is something that I'm excited to see. I know we've been having some questions about this particular item, so I think council will enjoy this presentation and I will turn it over to ben.

A

Great thanks, jim and welcome director phil.

X

Thank you, mr street manager. Thank you, mr mr mayor city, council members, john orteer senior planner is a project manager's project, so he's got a nice presentation for you, including what we're trying to achieve tonight is, uh in addition to providing an update on, what's happened in the project, but also seeking some some direction from you uh for the next step. So with that I will hand it off to john john welcome.

Y

Yes, sorry about that yeah john martier senior planner stated cupertino. Thank you for the introduction, jim and ben. um Yes, this is about the councilwork program item with a priority of number two on this fiscal year's work program. um And again let me see okay. Here we go so a little background on this. um The council has had eli housing uh on on public land, as as far back as the 2019-2020 council work program at that in that fiscal year was defined mostly on burn avenue.

Y

The following year, burn avenue was taken off of that, but still it was. There was as part of that work program. I identified to work with non-profit housing groups such as habitat for for humanity to construct eli housing for the development disabled community.

Y

So it wasn't until this year that this this uh 2021 2022 city work program um that evolved to analyze, specifically the uh mary avenue, uh the the partialization of surplus uh right away along mary avenue around the highway 85 sound wall, okay, so a brief analysis of the site. So what we have around this area is a very mix of uses with the highway 85 to to the west. The cupertino dog park to the north, uh the future westport development to the south in the glen booked apartments to the east.

Y

So currently, right now uh what you have along the proposed uh partialization of the right-of-way is about 93 parking spaces, as well as about 15 feet of landscaping and so forth. Just to give the community an idea of of what's there currently I'm going to attempt to pull out a google street view of the area, and hopefully it works, and yes it does. um This is essentially taken from the northern end of where the parcel would be.

Y

uh You can see the cupertino dog park in the um in the background right here, um and you know again, this is taking it from 2019. Probably you know about three months before you.

E

Y

Community wasn't locked down, but still you know, essentially you know what it's being used for right now is mostly just parking and and landscaping within the right-of-way as we go through here, you can see um that that's really what it is.

F

Let's go back to the presentation, so sorry guys.

Y

There we go wrong one okay, um currently right now, as it is public right away, uh the land use and zoning is considered transportation team, uh the post parcel um so when, when looking at the division of the right-of-way staff, mainly community development and public works want to take in consideration the to to ensure that there's adequate right-of-way to provide multimodal travel and parking along at least one side of mary avenue.

Y

What does this mean? And so what the resulting width of the of mary avenue at that at the portion where there would be a partialization would be about 56 50, a 56 foot wide uh mary avenue right away, and this would include one lane vehicle lanes and bicycle lanes in each direction.

Y

Sidewalks on both sides parking would be limited along the eastern edge of the road and being maintained on the western portion of the road. Even with the new parcel, you wouldn't have the 90 degree parcel. I'm sorry, you wouldn't have the 90 degree parking like you do. Currently, it would be in the design of a parallel parking uh we do have.

Y

The assistant director of public works, chad, mosley and, as well as being the city engineer, to answer any questions about these particular designs and and what this, what the anticipation for the design of mary avenue future will be to accommodate this parcel.

Y

So the resulting parcel is this right here. This was attached to the staff report, and so, if it's difficult to read for the public, I do apologize. So I'll do my best to present the the parcel dimensions to you. um So the resulting size of the parcel is about 0.79 acres, the length it's very long.

Y

It's about 860 feet wide and the width is about 38 feet for most of the parcel at the ends. It does go up to about 50 to 55 feet, but really at the at the ends towards the west port on to the south and the dog park to the north.

Y

um This circled area is to show that there is a six six and a half foot distance between the property line and the 85 foot in the in the highway. 85 sound wall.

Y

So again, this is a summary of the of the basic parcel dimensions. You can see the length 806 feet, approximate width, 38 feet and the square foot is about 34 500 square feet or 0.79 acres.

Y

So one of the things that the city has to do is bound by its state law when it comes to disposition of surplus land. So what is surplus land, so state defined?

Y

Surplus land is land owned fee, simple by um by a local agency, whether it be a city or county or even a school district, and in this case the the local jurisdiction has to make a determination that the land really doesn't serve a purpose to the city anymore, and it is indeed surplus um to dispose of surplus land is a very time consuming process and one that is for lackability, better to bog down to bureaucracy about how you dispose of it and what not the state does allow for.

Y

What's called exempt surplus land and in in under this condition, the process is a little bit more streamlined and a little bit a lot more simple.

Y

We believe the staff you know with the priority attorney as well as the currency, attorney that this this future parcel could be considered exempt surplus land. How could it be considered exempt circles land? Well, the state says that certain surplus land can be exempt if it restricts 100 percent of the residential units to persons and families of low to moderate income and of that 100 percent. The 75 percent of the residential use rejects the lower income households and that there's a minimum of 55 years for rental housing that you have. This restriction.

Y

The local agency, however, must invite, through rfprfq process any local public entity within whose jurisdiction circles land is located.

Y

Further um housing sponsors have notified the state department of housing, community development of their interest in surplus land to participate in the bidding process, so it still has to be an open bid to multiple developers or just to the community at large for those who would have to who want to develop this for affordable housing.

Y

So again, the project developed will be selected through rfq rfp process.

Y

So staff recommends a following for next steps. um Is that you that, if, if council agreed to go forward with this, um this proposed project is to circulate rfq rfp for qualified housing developers once one is selected uh concurrently, the project can be processed uh with the parcel map to separate the create the parcel for development.

Y

uh The general plan and zoning map amendments any necessary sql evaluation, any associate planning timeliness which could include development, permit, use, permit or and or architectural site approval and a city council declaration of the site is exempt surplus land and again this call will be done concurrently.

Y

So the fiscal impact um as part of the fiscal year 2022 um the adopted budget was it was an additional 200. Excuse me with additional hundred thousand dollars, which was carry at which uh 150 000 was carried over from the prior um year's council work program items to come to a total of 250 000 uh for this project.

Y

To date, um the city has incurred about roughly 12 500 uh dollars in expenses uh mostly spent on the creation of the draft parcel map and topographic map.

Y

Next step is upon direction from the city council on the rfp. Rfq process would be initiated for qualified, affordable housing developers, and that concludes my presentation.

A

Thank you very much, mr martier, and we will go on to our members of the public. I do have a request in early from a member of the public to speak first with slides and so I'll go ahead and call on that person. uh If warren mahoney is here, he did ask to speak first and did send in some slides earlier today and so oren you'll need to raise your hand so that I can identify how your hand is raised good.

A

So I also have hands raised from jenny and jan stokely. I remind our members of the public that by the time the first speaker has uh concluded speaking you'll need to have your hand raised to speak on this item, which is item number 10.. Warren welcome.

Z

Unmute, perfect, all right, so, first of all a good evening, mayor, paul and city council. uh First of all, I want to thank and congratulate the council for placing this on the city work plan and for demonstrating creativity and supporting this innovative way to produce needed housing by repurposing unused city space.

Z

While the need is great for housing of all sorts that especially needed for our most vulnerable populations as you'll hear in a while. The staff report certainly covered the nuts and bolts very well, and I do want to state that I've confirmed our plans with the public works as far as the right-of-way and all that. So I think we're good on that.

Z

But I do want to spend a few minutes to remind you of the overall project, so the overall project we think we can do 40 about 40 units of affordable housing along here and I'll show you some. You know, draft pictures of that.

Z

The primary target is adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities and in the end, the project may have a mixed use, because we can't for financial reasons we may have under other people in there, along with them, but all low-income people as well as you heard, it uses surplus land to reduce costs, and this project is driven by a coalition of organizations. So the city of cupertino, obviously you've gone ahead and done a lot of the work and there's more to do. The rotary club of cupertino is kind of the project leading us.

Z

A charity's housing that did the veranda project would be the project manager and all the project manager. Excuse me and ultimately, the project manager and housing choices is the advocate for these people, uh the targeted audience, and they would do future case management and we brought west valley community services in as well next.

Z

So you know you've seen kind of what this might look like. We really are talking about two units, two sets of units two-story units as you'll see and in the center. There is a community room, uh that's not just for the residents in general, but that's where they can get the services that they need. These people need services, so people will be coming in from time to time to deliver those services and we want a facility there that lets them do that, because the units themselves are rather small.

Z

It's not going to be where you can sit in somebody's living room and deliver the services pretty much. The units are quite small as you'll see next.

Z

So this is just a kind of a layout of what those units might look like. So this is, you know we took the lead a few years ago to have an architect that was interested in helping us out to put together these. You know very early draft plans just to see if this would work out and we think it will and, as I said, we've confirmed that with uh with public works as far as what the right-of-way would look like after the the development of the excess land and finally again, these are next sorry yeah.

Z

So this is a little bit of what the units might look like, obviously we're in the extremely early stages, and uh but you know they they'd have a nice look, um and uh you know, as you saw it's almost 0.8 acre, but it's it's it's a unique kind of property, but we think we can do that. Well, so my hope is that you'll continue to support this project. uh We look forward to continuing our partnership with the city to make this happen. Oh there is one more slide that just came in today.

Z

Those of you that may have read the mercury news this morning saw that in palo alto they're doing a very similar project, um they're getting their land from the county, which is another way to to do this and to you know, make it make it affordable and we're getting our land by being creative.

Z

uh So I'm hoping that we can uh that cupertino could take to leave here and show palo alto how it's done and with that, as I said, we look forward to continuing our partnership to make this happen, and I look forward to the council moving this ahead. Thank you very much. Thank.

A

You oren our next speaker is jenny and I'll read off the hands raised: jan stokely, kieran varshnaya, janet vanzora and peggy griffin, and so jenny welcome.

V

Thank you, mayor darcy.

V

This looks like a very nice project. It looks like it's very beautifully, designed I'm sure that it will be a compliment to the city and provide a lot of housing for very deserving people. um I just had a question um that was from uh the information about the parcel um when we were talking about surplus land. Okay. Now that was interesting. How this surplus land essentially had a special situation where you could put this type of housing on it.

V

The city planner had talked about this was I just had a question. In the last several years there had been some housing bills or things that had been done at the state level about surplus land. We had to make lists of surplus land cities how to make disclose all surplus land in the city and give it to sacramento.

V

um I I'm glad that if we have any surplus land, that cupertino is going to be able to use it for something for cupertino people, maybe some other folks, but we're not giving the land away to a developer in san, diego or um manteca or chico, or not picking on cities here. But I really really am concerned that sacramento is getting really handsy and grabby. They are really want to take assets out of each city and control them from afar sounds like mr putin, oh yeah.

V

It does, but I like the fact that cupertino has been able to take this site, which has been long considered for some type of housing um and use it for people who live in cupertino or family members of people who are interested in the welfare of cupertino.

V

We are not giving this land away to a developer in some other part of the state or some other state or some other country at that point oligarchs. Who knows? But I really I'd like to know the history of this surplus land situation. If this, if this was something that was just from the last two to three years, when the housing bills ramped up.

V

But I really like the fact that cupertino is able to keep this land, keep it off any lists from handsy grabbing sacramento and have it become something that is going to be like the veranda and is a real asset and beautiful construction for the city of cupertino for our residents and family members of people who live in cupertino or other cities, people who need this type of housing, it's close to de anza college. The senior center et cetera, but I really would like to know was this ever considered?

V

Could sacramento get it? Thank you.

A

Appreciate it- and our next speaker is jan stokley- welcome jan um jan. I don't see your hand anymore. So uh when I went to unmute you uh I didn't, did you somehow get into the panelists.

A

um So, jan, if you can hear this uh raise your hand, oh there, you go welcome jen,.

AA

Great thanks, I may have clicked the hand too soon. I'm jan stokley executive, director of housing choices we're a nonprofit organization based here in santa clara county, and we serve people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. We focus on creating inclusive, affordable housing opportunities so that adults with developmental disabilities can remain in their home communities as their parents age and need to develop a plan for where the adult will live when the parent can no longer provide them a home.

AA

We have 24, inclusive housing properties operating now.

AA

Cities across santa clara county, san mateo and santa cruz county have adopted and implemented this inclusive housing model in part because they know their residents and want to serve their residents and also because it's one of the priority special needs populations called out for each cities to address and their housing elements. So the housing needs of people with intellectual and developmental disabilities are a priority under our housing element which being developed now.

AA

So this property would be particularly helpful because, right now, cupertino adults are being referred to housing choices for affordable housing and we have to move them elsewhere and both they and their families would much. Rather, they can stay in the community where they have connections, support networks, and so it's very important that cupertino get in line and help us create that opportunity for the cupertino residents with adults with disabilities and their family.

AA

I want to emphasize the great work that the collaborative has done to get us this far and thank the all the partners I think, on with respect to the rfq process. The city has the ability to prioritize developers who respond based on how they address the housing needs of extremely low-income people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

AA

So, as you said about framing the rfq or rfp, make sure you, let developers know that that's your priority so that you get proposals that are responsive to that and in response to the prior question. Many of our inclusive housing properties have a preference for local residents. So, for example, there'll be a preference for people with developmental disabilities who need the coordinated on-site services and there'll be a further preference for residents of people who live or work in cupertino or the city.

AA

So it's not uncommon to have both preferences at a single site and because the need is so huge we we really don't have any problem working with both preferences at one property.

AA

So it's very exciting to see this get to this place. I hope the rfq will be written so that it's explicitly um uh directing developers that they'll be a priority on serving this particular population, because otherwise.

A

Thanks very much your time has arrived appreciate it. So our next speaker is kiran varshnaya welcome.

N

Kieran hello, thank you very much. My name is kiran varshnaya and I'm speaking as an individual today. Thank you very much uh honorable mayor paul and the city council members for this opportunity to bring my inputs. So today, I'm speaking in support of the eli and bmr housing units, as proposed at the mary avenue location, the site. We need such housing for our community to help the needy, especially the population with intellectual and development disabilities.

N

I'm requesting the the city council uh to consider taking forward this proposal of the city council work program. Thank you.

A

Thank you karen. Our next speaker is janet van zorn. Welcome, janet.

M

Can you hear me.

A

M

Good evening, mayor, paul and city council members, lauren and jan and karen have described the project well, so I'm just going to add some a few points, rather than repeating what they've already said.

M

I think it's really important that we have some housing in our city, that is, um with preference for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities, because at this point in time we have no such units.

M

I also am excited about the project, because it's an inclusive project, it will have people with developmental and intellectual disabilities, but we'll also have other people from the general public who need affordable housing.

M

I think the project is novel, I'm amazed at what oren and the city planners and all of our collaborators have come up with. I think it's a wonderful project and I would like to encourage you to move forward with the next steps, as described in the staff's report.

M

As many of you know, I've been trying to find a way to generate set asides for people with idd and cupertino for over 20 years. I have appreciated the support of countless cupertinians, who would also like to see a project like this. Come to fruition, these next steps are very exciting indeed, and we will be grateful to you if the end result is that we've paved the way to make this all happen. Thank you very much.

A

Thank you janet. Our next speaker is peggy griffin, welcome, peggy.

J

Good evening, council and staff, um I support this project. I have a few requests, this is public land, and so there should be in your contracts or rfps no market rate, absolutely um also not 55 years, but forever. This land was public land and it's supposed to be forever, so the housing should be forever.

J

um Also, cupertino residents should have priority, as jennifer griffin and others specified.

J

Also janet ben soren mentioned something about preference for eli, but there's going to be affordable, housing.

J

I'm confused about how much of it and what the percentage is so I'd like that discussed and also, I would like to know who manages and maintains this housing. Thank you.

A

Thank you very much peggy and peggy you're the last hand that was raised um before our first speaker concluded speaking. I I'm going to go ahead and call on one more hand here, that's kathy robinson, I'll I'll, go ahead and preface this and encapsulate into my own comments.

A

um So kathy was very much integrally involved in the veranda project, and so uh I would like to to hear from kathy so welcome and um if you're speaking on behalf of an entity as well, please feel free to to disclose that welcome kathy.

A

And kathy, I don't okay you're on me. No welcome ari.

AB

Thank you very much good evening, mayor and city council. I am kathy robinson with charities housing. I just want to add a couple of awards to the other comments that were made this evening. This has been a great collaborative process with a rotary and the city and housing choices coalition, and we really hope that we can bring some very high quality, affordable housing to the city again, as we did with the veranda.

AB

Thank you very much.

A

Thank you very much kathy, and so let me bring it to council at this time. uh Would anyone like to speak on this item? Initially, I don't see hands raised. You know I will share some um initial thoughts, um but I do see council member moore uh with your hand, raised as well as councilmember willie, um so so my initial thought is that this has been a very long time coming in cupertino.

A

I see members of the public that were speaking that have been uh dedicated on this uh for for years and years, and um you know with my own involvement I've. um You know seen a number of developments being discussed as potential sites for inclusionary zoning along these lines.

A

Eli is not a a formal designation, recognized by um the the arena allocations, and so it's a it's a particularly um you know, challenging type of housing to um to to navigate and deliver, and so um you know personally, I'm really uh glad to see that this uh has come to. You know us at this point and uh it has been a fairly long time germinating, but I also welcome the the council discussion on this.

A

I think that we, you know, always have some really insightful comments and observations that get incorporated into what ultimately gets delivered. So let me go ahead and turn this to councilmember moore, followed by councilmember, willie and vice mayor. Ciao has a hand raised as well councilmember moore.

Q

Okay, uh thank you mayor paul. So when I look at the city work program uh for item two, it is uh to consider options to develop eli and bmr housing units for developmentally disabled individuals on city-owned property along mary avenue, as well as the outback steakhouse location. So when this this project was first mentioned, uh it was prior to uh supervisor simidian coming to council and letting us know about the the purchase of the outback property and then, since then, we've also had uh another property owner on this.

Q

The simeon property at uh at the north end of the valco site, which I think is around five acres, um also be offered as an exchange for the outback property and and that offers even even greater opportunities for eli, very low income, um potentially even rv uh area parking. um All you know all sorts of things, so there are a lot of options there.

Q

um So I'm I'm I'm concerned that this has gotten ahead of our actual selection and adoption of the city work program which we are in in process of uh creating our priorities, ranking them, and then I also am concerned that we've now taken our actual uh council derived work program and somehow split item two uh in in parts and uh which does not seem to be in keeping with what we were discussing um for this item.

Q

So I process wise, I'm concerned about it, and- and I would also like to to mention that we have some other properties- that we need to figure out the disposition of byrne stockholmer bletch. So we have some other areas within the city uh that to to work with. Thank you.

A

Okay, thank you councilmember moore. Next, we have councilmember willie.

P

Yeah, thank you mayor, so uh thank you, john, for a good update for us uh I'll I'll start off with some comments. You know, uh once uh elected and sworn in, orrin mahoney very quickly, thereafter contacted me to talk about this mary avenue project, which I had heard. Nothing know nothing about, so it really was quite some time ago. uh You know three years ago, and so I I want to kind of put that out there, because you know I'd really like to see us moving this as long along as fast as possible.

P

That's pretty much the motivation of why it then got on the work plan because without it being on the work plan, it's gonna only be moving along at the same pace as typical uh projects and by putting it on the work plan. You know, I feel we have some some push to to move this along. In hindsight, we haven't had much I've asked about it regularly.

P

What's the status, how can we make it go faster? I do realize that there are a few uh limiting factors. You know the drawings that oren showed us tonight. You know their artist renderings and in order to truly move uh along you're gonna need uh final construction type drawings.

P

So the point I'd like to leave us all with is that I I would really like to see us move this as long as fast as possible.

P

You know let the rotary know that you know as fast as as they can move this along. I would hope that the city is going to make sure every time they have something every time the city has something in their ballpark to do.

P

You know they act on it right away to keep this thing moving right along, and I want to do a shout out to lauren and the rotary, for you know, making sure that it's covering all the bases with with charities, housing and housing choices, because the adults with intellectual disabilities do need supportive services and it sounds like those are in fact going to be integral to this project and part of it. So no real questions other than let's, let's move this along and and see it come to fruition as soon as possible. Thank you. Thank.

A

You councilmember willie. Next we have vice mayor ciao.

K

Hi um yeah this actually the conversation started even before I got on the console and then I thought it has been on the work pro program for every year and we have not had it on the council agenda at all. So I'm glad to finally see it on the agenda and then there we can discuss the next step.

K

I did not realize how small the property is. I wonder the feasibility of building um there, but I'm glad that charities housing is here and then I yeah, I hope, to know that some affordable housing developer could confirm that it's feasible to build here, and I also wonder we have the mary avenue dog park there. How much is the usage of that part since we are opening up a dog off leash park elsewhere?

K

If there is not much use of this dog part? Maybe one of the next steps should also consider and expanding to include the dog park. For so that we can build more units, and another thing I'm concerned is: the staff report is a little vague on. The rfp will specifically mention that the property should be for intellectually and developmentally disabled people and extremely low income, um except in the title of the work program.

K

This was not really mentioned, so I want to be sure the rfp mentioned that, and I also am curious how many units is possible, what's percentage that will be eli and what percentage would be other income level, and is it possible so that there is no 50-year limit on this city on the property?

K

What will be the legal uh restrictions or requirement that we need to doing so that it could be of forever bmr within the city's control um and also on the legislators who spoke to us a few meetings ago said there is a chance to apply for infrastructure funding this year from the state. um Could we possibly apply for funding using this project?

K

That would be great yeah. Thank you and how we have. We notified the neighbors. uh I think we should notify the neighbors that this project is being considered. um Thank you.

A

Thank you vice mayor ciao. um Well, why is my child, given that you had a question that seemed to be for for the city attorney in terms of the length of time, or at least someone from planning? Does anyone from staff uh care to address that question? It was not just asked by vice mayor ciao, but I think another speaker previously, and uh are we limited to a particular duration? I think chris is that.

S

So so so we we will be issuing an rfp, so we are, you know, allowed to set the requirements of the rfp. The other thing to be mindful of is we've. At least conceptually discussed the property as a ground lease which would give us contractual control over the use of the property, as well as land use, control.

E

S

It spelled out more clearly that means that we, we could include affordability, requirements and browsing um in the term of that these could be up to 99 years, at which point the land would revert to the city.

A

Okay and what's magical about the 99-year mark chris in terms of.

S

uh That's the long that that's the longest week that we can leave city property under the government code.

A

Great, thank you all right. um Let's go on, I I do see um and would staff like to follow up or comment on anything else that they've heard from the council member comments up at this point, I think uh vice manchow had a couple of other questions about. uh One was about notice to the neighbors and um there were other other comments from other council members I'll go by hands. If anyone from staff uh cares to speak on these items, uh if not I'll go ahead. Oh director foo, you have your hand raised.

X

Thank you, mr mayor. Let me take a stab on some of these uh questions and just to kind of follow up on mississippi, attorney's response. I think that that's appropriate, that's accurate and just a reminder that a veranda is 55 years and sometimes depending on the regulatory terms for the funding source that might have some some requirements on the length of time, but in terms of noticing, we fully intend on noticing the process to the neighbors.

X

Of course, we're required to do that and we always often go above and beyond what the minimum requirements are in the code. What we're here today obviously is looking for an additional directional input. A council may have you know, for example, identifying specifically just to confirm this is for developmentally disabled. uh That will help us with the language for rfq and rfp. So some of those things, if, if council, can help us clarify now we'll start to move forward with with that item has been in discussion. I know we talked to orange group um 2019.

X

I believe uh just an initial uh reach, out from from the from the group talk about feasibility of the project, something like that and I kind of initiated the discussion, and this is where we are now there's a lot of leg, work uh that occurred behind the scenes, uh mostly from the support from the public works department, to um set up the property, the parcel as it is now, so that we can actually have a property and parcel to proceed and- and so at this point, we're looking for council direction, how you want to see this being uh uh designated and we can proceed with that very quickly as well.

X

So thank you. Okay,.

A

Thank you, uh director, phil. Let's go on to councilmember way.

R

Thank you mayor paul. First, I want to thank the staff to move this forward. Like um council member willie says this is time right time to go, for it a lot of details to work out and I, but I believe our staff is very familiar with it and we'll be informing the staff, our council step by step. So I'm really very happy and just wanted to do what council member really says: that's, um let's get it going.

A

Okay, thank you councilmember way and um let's go back to council member moore, councilmember moore.

Q

Hey um thank you mayor paul. I was wondering if staff could put up a cross section showing what the the new um street alignment would be like compared to existing.

Y

uh We don't have the cross section developed at this point.

AC

And mr martier, if you wouldn't mind, I do have a plan view that kind of shows a real rough breakdown. This is real rough. um Give me one second to pull it up.

S

AC

Do you see my screen here.

Q

AC

This is a real rough breakdown. This parcel size requires reconstruction of the curb and gutter on the east side. So keep that in mind. It comes with about a five and a half foot sidewalk that provides a six inch gap between the back of the walk in the property line for future maintenance work.

AC

uh We have a five foot bike lane with a two foot buffer: two 11 foot lanes north south, uh an eight foot parking section, uh a three foot buffer, the bike lane on the inside uh to protect bikers and uh another five foot sidewalk.

AC

This is kind of a bare minimum, uh right-of-way width, but this is what we had come up with, that we think it and again it's real rough there's some flexibility in this, but we wanted to make sure we had adequate travel lanes as well as bike lanes uh with some safety in there with the buffers.

Q

Okay, um thank you, chad, um so there had been a report that came to the the planning commission and, I believe, also to city council, the uh gsi um plan for mary avenue and the green storm water infrastructure plan um and that what happened a couple of years ago, so I'm two parts, I'm wondering why we haven't had any more updates on that recently, but uh is. Does that mean that that plan is? Is uh uh we're not gonna? Do that at all then?.

AC

um So if I recall uh this was brought to city council a number of years ago and the project wasn't accepted by council, so it's kind of put on the back burner and you know we also had council looking at this option so most likely if we were to proceed with this partialization, the green infrastructure or complete street for mary.

Q

AC

Would probably go away, there would not be adequate right-of-way. That happened.

Q

Okay, and and we could you pull up your that, the the rough plan that you had and and indicate where the existing curbs are and what kind of a setback you're expecting in the 38 um foot area.

A

uh Chad, you're, uh muted.

AC

Yeah I was trying to unmute there here is the proposed curb, and you can see this light gray line is the existing curb on the east side. It's a couple of feet back when you look at the west side. uh The existing curb line is here: okay, they're, parallel parking is in this area with respect to setbacks for the buildings it would be. uh However, the developer designs the site. um I am not awaited setbacks. I've just created the maximum parcel. I could for this site, while ensuring public access in the road.

AC

You know multi-modal access in the roadway.

Q

Okay, and so the parking is removed on on the um I guess it would be the east side of the street, I'm seeing you've got a very narrow parking lane of only eight feet. So when somebody opens the door, you know you be careful with the car driving by that kind of thing.

AC

Eight foot's typical for parallel parking.

Q

Okay um and then probably these trees along the freeway are gonna have to be uh removed. I'm gonna guess, um do you.

AC

Have at this point in time um it depends on how they would develop it. They may be able to keep them in at backyard areas. But again that would be upon the developer to come up with a planner.

Q

Okay and what about um because this? This is surplus land. What about the city's um just side note? There are a lot of utilities in there, apparently, um so what? What about the city's ability to um impose um setback requirements- or uh just you know, where's the where's, the sound wall, exactly okay, so it's even further back okay! So um could you guesstimate that distance um to the sound wall from the property line? It looks.

AC

Like I recall, it's about six and a half feet.

Q

Okay, okay, so uh now would it be the city um deciding if you you were going to allow a zero lot um line on on the property line um like how did the? How did the rules uh come about for for what the front yard setback in the rear yard setback um would for what those would be for this project.

Y

Oh go ahead: ben.

X

I I was going to say um you know, depending on the proposal again we're we're, anticipating this be a planned development zone. So, as you call, uh council has reviewed a couple different projects this past year, where it is a planned development zone where um we can coordinate with the developer and look at what's appropriate in terms of setback and depends on proposal uh depends on what comes back for the request for for proposals and what the development looks like, I I'm sure, as a developer.

X

They want to make sure, there's adequate and standard living and provide the adequate. You know buffer from the units from from the from the freeway. They want to be able to make sure the residents are comfortable, so they'll they'll have to accommodate something, but the plan development zone gives the city that flexibility in looking at uh setbacks,.

Q

And and these units are really going to be absorbing the sound from the freeway in in some ways, acting as a a further um sound wall for the for the apartments, but um um having lived in glenbrook uh on on the uh freeway facing side, it is very loud and that area, I'm I'm confused why the staff report says building six to eight affordable ownership town homes. Yet the report on what from the public was that it would be many more units, and um could you explain what why there is this difference.

Y

I could try to answer that one. You know that was a language from the original um councilwork program back in 2019, um so that again you know the the council work program that dealt with the development of the or the the section of housing for development. Disabled uh populations uh has evolved over the last few years, so it wasn't a hard number place on that anymore, whereas you know right now, it's it's open.

Q

Okay, and why why are is the outback property not being discussed and and simeon as well? uh It was. It was my understanding that we were going to have a conversation about about at least the two options, um but now it's this item has somehow jumped ahead of our work plan. um Prioritization and and been um bifurcated happened.

X

Yeah, of course, councilmember moore, I mean tried to attempt to address that uh you're correct. I mean this. This item sort of has evolved of the years to to where you see now you know the difference is that the other properties are or private property, not city property. This this piece of products over here is city property, so we're able to sort of control our pace um in our review process.

X

So we want to just make sure that this the focus on the mayor avenue uh gets the continued progression uh to to to review an approval process and because the county was involved in the other uh uh parcel we're still waiting for the count, uh the county to provide us an update. So we can bring that item back to council for uh for information.

Q

Okay, um so another issue to throw in there is that we we own the the burn property. Were we to sell the burn property? We could the city owns it.

Q

We could purchase another piece of property uh in a in a um a location, that's not right up against the freeway wall um and uh and perhaps um end up with a better, um a better end result uh and, uh and additionally, um the bletch property you could actually, even with it being in the flood zone, put the uninhabitable area on the ground floor and the habitable area above. So it's not a it's, not a complete non-starter that it's in the flood zone.

Q

It's just how you develop there, because there are properties there are residential homes. In that flood plain, I just want to bring that up. Thank you.

A

Okay, uh great, I I will ask for a motion at this time um and um just uh on a matter of uh time tracking, I wanted to make sure we had a fulsome discussion but um well councilmember moore. Your allocation did uh did go quite uh far-ranging, so you're at about nine minutes um and the rest of us uh vice mayor chow. You know you have the most next to that at about four, so vice mayor child your hand is raised.

A

Let me go to you and then council member way, but let me uh initiate that by asking vice mayor chow, whether you have a motion to set forth uh for our further deliberation at this time.

E

K

So I'd like to um most my okay, so I I'll make a motion to give to uh for the staff to initiate the rfp for this property on specifically pointing out that we would like the project to be developed for intellectually and developmentally disabled population.

K

Do we need any more details.

A

Well, let me let me refer that to staff so so steph. I noticed that in the presentation the next steps, this states that upon direction from city, council and rfp rfq process would be initiated for qualified, affordable housing developers, but I did notice a number of other issues that were brought up um during the staff presentation. So um what? What is the recommended uh action here? That's actionable because I I think the agenda doesn't necessarily give us. uh You know additional guidance on top of that, because it simply says something.

A

The effect of you know seek direction from city council. um So you know with these various issues and steps. um Would it be useful for us to have this motion here as uh further direction, or would we uh simply on, in a more basic fashion, ask staff to come back with the general principle um you know outlined here with more details as to you know, further follow-up steps- and I see our city manager has a hand raised. So let me bring it to jim at this point uh to address that question.

A

Thank you, mayor and.

C

Council and uh banner or john stepping, if I say wrong, but I believe tonight was to ask council you know if we were able to answer all your questions to um suggest we go forward with an rfprq and get it out there on the into the public and whatnot, um so we're hoping that all of the questions were answered, or at least as best as possible, and that if it was the council's decision to say yes, we want to move forward and look at the rfprfq see who responds.

C

And then we can come back to council at that time. At a later date.

A

Okay, well, that does sound like the vice mayor's motion, and so I don't see further hands raised from our city staff and so um I'll go to uh councilman way. Although I didn't notice that councilman willie shot his hand right up when uh vice mayor chow made the motion councilmember, why did you have a desire for the comment? Or uh did you want a second? um I? I will note that uh it may have been a colleague of yours who had that uh desire as well. So maybe you guys.

R

I'll, let I'll let councilmember will you second. It.

A

uh Councilmember willie did you want to second, the motion.

P

uh I'll let uh councilman way. Second, I had a comment: okay,.

A

Great all right so uh we'll do either of you on a second. This.

R

I'll second, it- and I have a comment but uh uh john john- can make something first,.

A

Okay, oh great thanks, councilman white councilman, willing.

P

Okay, uh so I I really like some of the uh comments from uh councilman moore. um You know tossing out that idea about. You know these other properties that we have that maybe could be uh sold and that we bought oh great ideas, great ideas, I I would just be the frame of mind, though, that I don't see it as being it has to be this or that I would be thinking let's, let's do as much as we possibly can. I do I.

P

I do share the concern about the noise being right up uh against the uh uh freeway, but when oren brought this uh to me, you know way back in early 19.

P

You know that was a concern, but I feel confident that they have. They have looked at that and how it would impact and where they would do the window placements, what type of planting they might be able to do. um I I want to leave that really to them there's their soul. The rotary is sold on that this can be a viable project if something came up later on.

P

That said, oh all, this work and it doesn't pan out I'm fine with that, but I think we should be going as fast as we can on this one and now, with these thoughts from councilman moore by all means. If, if that made sense, let let's add another work plan item to explore those with what options there would be so I'll leave it at that. But uh thank you for the additional uh thoughts thanks.

A

Thank you councilmember, william. Next, we have councilmember way.

R

Okay, um councilman, william, you almost took all my comments, so I really think it's not better or worse. We we could go ahead with more affordable housing units and to accommodate it. We need that on our housing elements anyway and as for being very adjacent to the freeway. Actually, we have a lot of housing. um Even single-family homes that write us js interfere with modern technology design. I do think we can make that work, so um I do want to detail what the council member really says. Thank you.

A

Thank you, councilman. Vice mayor chow, your hand was raised.

K

Yeah, so I had on three questions. I guess first, two are the ones I mentioned earlier. I hope to still get feedback or comments. What's the estimation on the number of units and the percentage that could actually be eo, I I couldn't find that in the staff report.

R

I know it will.

K

Be estimate yeah, it would be depending on the proposal. I apologize.

X

Vice mayor, mr mayor mayor, very.

K

Quick response, yeah, I think vice.

M

X

You're correct, it depends depending on the proposal, but if council has a percentage in mind that you want to be included as part of the rfp, that's fine, if you want to say it to be all development disabled! That's fine!

X

If you want it's entirely up to you, how you want to set the parameters of the proposal and then, depending on the projects actually being submitted, then we'll be able to know what what that project looks like.

K

But do we know how many units it can fit.

X

Yeah, so so we we, we spoke to a couple of uh reputable regional, affordable, housing developers. We also have a couple of licensed architects on in the city staff. You know I practiced a few years myself as well, so I think for this particular use and what we're hearing from the public is that it's such a it's such a need of use area of support that they can. They can make it make it work. uh However, however, the size.

X

Obviously, if you're looking at you know, 10 foot depth, that's not workable right, but so for 38 feet. uh What we're hearing back is that's something that programmatically they can. They can make that work and we're seeing at least one proposal potential proposal tonight. Looking at, I believe it's 40 40 units, but again it depends on the programmatic designs. You could you could accommodate more or less.

K

The rfp is it better to not um limit, or maybe provide say, a fifty percent for el eli. So we have a target.

Y

uh If, if I may uh vice mayor, I mean we could do 100 eoi and that's up to the council as well yeah I mean I think that was.

K

I don't want to set that and then wait didn't get any proposal.

Y

Sure, but I think that was the intent of the the work program was this to be. You know: 100 percent uh development, disabled. I believe um and correct me if I'm wrong of the council, when this with his work drive was was was crafted so and you know- and that's that's definitely up to you to to to guide us on that suggestion.

K

Second question is the dog park? How big is the dog park with including the dog park? Allow us to add more units.

Y

I you know, I will look that public works too to address, but I don't think that was part of the work program was to take out the dog park, um because I think it is okay. Yeah.

K

You can respond to me later. I just thought we have more other locations for dog parks, so maybe that could be considered but yeah not for right now and then another thing is for this: rfp, with a commitment of certain amount of city funding, make it more attractive.

X

So we do the city, I'm sorry uh vice mayor through through mr mayor ben from georgia, community development, the city does have a notice of funding that we we issue on on a I believe, bi-annual basis, but we have the flexibility to to issue that uh when, when projects come, live their shovel really projects and it does have a limitation on the um you know- we have a limited amount of money uh in that in that particular fund.

X

So you know if, if a project is received and approved for this process, the developer you know can consider filing for um for the acceptance of that particular funding. But I know mr city manager has his hand up as well.

C

Jim, thank you there. My mine was actually going back to the dog park. It's it. I don't have the numbers, it's more anecdotal, but it's um the uh dog park over there is does have quite extensive use to it and sort of point that out so.

A

Okay, well thanks very much: let's uh go on to councilmember moore at this time.

Q

Hey um thank you mayor paul. I just wanted to remind people when we're talking about the dog park uh to to my recollection. It had lead contamination which needed a a few hundred thousand dollars worth of remediation um back in in 2011, and it's probably I'm gonna assume due to its proximity near the freeway it could be, but uh so I'm wondering if there is contamination found that does need to be mitigated um who's. Who is responsible for for that? Thank you.

A

Thanks, councilmember moore, and so I I do see director foo has a hand raised. Did you want to speak to clean up issues director foo and who would be responsible for for footing that bill? I see your your hand is no longer raised. Okay,.

X

I'm sorry, yes, I pressed the wrong button. I meant to unmute apologize, mr mayor. I had to raise my hand for a different follow-up, but I will answer this question. First yeah I believe the it would be the the responsibility of the developer um for for any on-site cleanup, but but to sort of piggyback to what vice mayor had mentioned before in terms of whether to limit just developmentally disabled or not.

X

There might be some funding mechanisms to a project like this, where a a mixture of affordability will allow them better funding sources or better choices, but it's entirely up to the council. If you want to limit just to to developmentally disabled, um but but county does have, I believe, um majority funds, or something like that that that allows for uh bmr units, uh so something to consider as your as you ponder the percentage.

A

Well, I thank you director foo, I mean. Presumably, I think staff will be guided by you know. Pragmatic realities in terms of you know the the mix of affordability that would be needed in order to deliver the project itself. So um you know to the extent that that information is not perfect here in terms of.

M

E

A

Further, I would support you looking into that and advising us uh you know after that has been examined. um I I don't know if 100 percent, you know.

E

A

Is is going to qualify for funding or a different.

E

A

You know such as 50 eli, and you know, other levels of affordability are something that would uh be uh perhaps a little bit more feasible to deliver, or even if it's not like that, preclusive to delivery. So I don't think we should be qualitative about our discussion in that regard. uh We really just need hard facts in terms of what the market looks like so council member way again followed by councilmember moore.

R

Yes, so um follow up with this discussion mayor paul, I'd like to make an amendment to our motion to add to at least 50 eli, okay,.

A

Yeah, so uh that's um vice mayor child motion, so vice versa. Would you accept that, as a friendly amendment to your motion.

K

So can I ask, I think ben mentioned some funding, my um my this might preclude some funding sources so would 50 preclude us from certain funding sources.

X

You know that level specifically, I'm not I'm not sure. I just know that county does have funding for below market rate units, affordable units- and um I don't know but strictly 100 developmentally disabled project will be precluded for those kind of funding just wanna. If one leave it open enough, uh where projects can seek out additional funding types to be considered.

K

So could we say preferred verbally 50 or more eli unit that way it's not uh it's exclusive yeah.

A

No, that's the request, I think well vice mayor, that is the request of your um friendly amendment and you do have a couple of responses from director foo right now that you know, in terms of the precise uh you know, mixture, there's there's not 100 certainty uh on staff at this point, but that's that's the suggestion. You know 50 percent.

K

A

You you are accepting that as a friendly amendment, yeah.

K

A

uh Councilman way, I I assume.

E

M

A

And the uh okay provider of the friendly amendment, you're, okay with that and you're nodding. But if you could just vocalize yourself.

R

Absolutely thank you, mayor, paul, ray.

A

Thanks very much all right, uh councilmember moore, you have your hand raised, and then um I will try to get us wrapped to a vote after this. So councilmember moore.

Q

Okay, uh thank you, mayor paul. I I actually wish that that we had the the soils reports from back in 2011 to have some sense of the uh the the lead contamination. um It's there's a quote from the the old 2011 article and and to my knowledge, lead does not uh dissipate over time.

Q

It's saying the amount of lead discovered in the site seems to be a bit higher than what we would have expected for its location. It's airborne lead and it's in the soil itself.

Q

In some cases it's 18 inches or two feet deep end quote so that's that's the dog park um site- and I remember this being in the news before uh so it with regards to this project is the city taking on all of the right-of-way changes and improvements and, if the one part and then with regards to the utilities needing to be located in the property who is going to be paying for that, I'm going to assume the developer um and um gosh.

Q

Well, we'll just to start with that, um and and are we giving the land away for free is? Are we going to be? Are we going to receive any compensation for for this.

A

Okay, uh would anyone from staff care to speak to councilmember, moore's, questions and comments?

A

um Is this mostly, you have your microphone on.

AC

Yeah I could answer some of those questions um with respect to the cost for any of the development. It would be covered by the developer, whether that's street improvements, whether it's removal of lead deposits, all of that would be required as part of the development. With the rfi process. We would be providing as much information as possible, including information that we have from past studies, such as what we had for the dog park, including information on on the lead. For that I think, to a certain extent, much of that area is covered by asphalts.

AC

So I'm not sure when that asphalt was installed, but probably quite some time ago, that may have minimized some of the area from being contaminated with aerial lead, because aerial lead is coming from cars back when we used to use the lighted fuel highway. 85 did come in at a later date, but I know that that one section of 85 from stevens creek 280 has been there for a while.

AC

I don't know what those contamination led uh levels would be underneath the asphalt, but I think they could be quite a bit lower um with respect to what was the other question. You had the utilities and again the utilities would be relocated by the developer.

AC

There's currently to the best of my knowledge of street lights and fiber optic, there's and I believe, there's a section of potentially sewer and pg e to the north, but it doesn't extend the whole way down.

Q

Okay, so let me repeat back what I think I heard so. The developer is going to be responsible for all of the street improvements that the changing of the curb the building, the new sidewalk, removing the um moving the utilities and, if there's lead contamination in the soil, because there's a there, is a significant amount of exposed, soil still still in existence between the curb and the wall. The developers is going to be taking that on as well, and uh the last part is: are we giving them the property for for free?

Q

What uh I think was the last part, I'm not sure that I got that part answered.

AC

And I I may let the city manager speak to this, but I believe the intent would be to lease the property out at an extremely low rate for potentially up to a period of 99 years.

A

uh Great, let's go to uh jim our city manager, jim.

C

Oh, thank you mayor. Yes, that would be that would be. My in the intent would be that yeah I could do the 99-year release and then in 99 years we can look at that possibility again. um The other one too I was also going to speak on is the requirement. It may be better to do the requirement of 100 affordable with reference to the development developmentally disabled and make that project, such just as a recommendation to counsel we're hearing that from our housing.

A

Can you repeat that um jim.

C

Sorry that it may be better to require 100, affordable with preference for developmentally disabled housing.

A

Okay, 100 affordable and where is that being driven from.

C

um That's my offline discussion with kerry she's the same person who's in our housing that it would be best for that.

A

I'm sorry with with carrie with carrie hussler yeah. Okay, so I mean. Is she looking at this from uh funding or you know, what kind of perspective is? Is that coming from yeah.

X

I'm so sorry, if I, if I can jump- and I let me speak to a little bit while carrie's getting uh her machine reboot out here but yeah, so so I think the housing division is looking at this from a funding uh source flexibility uh for these type of projects.

A

X

I think here is back on. If I carry you have any more to detail, recommendation or explanation to this well.

A

I mean, I guess my concern is if it's specifically for eli developmentally disabled, I mean to kind of give a hedge for just 100 affordability. I mean we have to balance out the factors right I mean. I understand why it would be more fundable, but you know I don't know whether it would be desirable with regard to the aim of the item itself, um so I did see kerry as well kerry. Did you want to speak? To that?

A

I mean in terms of the recommendation that we make it 100 affordable in the rfq rfp, with a so-called preference for eli.

AD

Sure, good evening, mayor and council members, my understanding is that for the surplus land piece that would need to be 100 percent, affordable- and I know john martier can can speak to that further. In terms of funding.

AD

I understand that there might be some feasibility issues with restricting to extremely low income or limiting funding sources such as measure a, and so, if we put in our preferences for developmentally disabled and um we allow for tax credit to measure a and all of the different layers to come in, it might make for a strong project that crosses the finish line.

A

Okay and kerry, would you would you say that, given the benefit of more time, you could go into the industry and give more you know more more more um research advice on this or or do you think that would basically be the bottom line on this, irrespective of you know whether we talk about it now or will we talk about it in say two or three weeks.

AD

I from my understanding of um participation from jan stokely this evening from housing choices. There was a input on putting preferences in, and I think that will give us um a strong, a strong review marker for the rfq. I don't think any further research on the funding sources would actually help at this time because it all depends on what's available when the the project breaks ground.

A

I see I appreciate that, and you know I I do notice that uh there are two members of the public with their hands raised. um We have oren as well as janet benzora and jan stokley's still there. um I. I would like to refer uh this since um I I know jen's been heavily involved and she didn't mention 24. You know sites in the county, so so jan I'm going to go um and unmute your microphone. Can you speak to this as well?

A

I mean is that consistent with your understanding of the funding requirements that, as described 100 affordable with a preference for eli developmentally disabled uh housing would be the best way to catch this.

AA

Yeah, I totally agree with kerry, based on experience with other projects. Developers have to look at available financing programs at the time. So I think a project if you tell developers that you're looking for a project, that's a hundred percent, affordable housing and that you'll score projects based on the degree to which they provide housing for extremely low income.

AA

People with developmental disabilities, um then you're going to get you know more ability of developers to work with the financing programs that are available at the time and I'm sure kathy robinson can speak to that as well. But I think 100 percent, affordable project, but you're going to score the developers proposal based on their responsiveness to your priority, which is to create inclusive housing with units that are affordable to people with extremely low income and developmental disabilities.

AA

Then you'll you'll. Let the developers tell you what is financially feasible, um we're really hoping to have at least 20 eli units for developmental disabilities, there's so many um adults that we're working with now who have to move out of cupertino.

AA

So we we want to see at least 20, but I think you could frame it in terms of your scoring of proposals based on the extent to which the proposal addresses your priority regarding number of units that are affordable at the eli level for people with developmental disabilities.

A

Understood well, thank you, jan um I'm going to go ahead and um I'll call on briefly the members of the public as well, oren and janet. If you have anything to add that that could be of use in that regard, and please be succinct. uh Oren.

A

And you'll need to unmute your microphone. If you want to speak to this or.

Z

Yeah jan covered a lot of it very well. There are two separate issues. What percentage is for idd people? What percentage is eli?

Z

Please keep it as flexible as possible. I have been on a phone with with kathy who's, the expert in how these things get financed, and we don't want the perfect to get in the way of the enemy to be the enemy, the good as they say so. I'd rather have a project with 15 uh people that can you know, meet that criteria.

Z

Then one that's says it's going to have 20 and a project doesn't get made, so you know give us the flexibility, we're as, as we all say, we're in the early stages of this.

Z

We were just waiting for you guys to go ahead, so we could put some more time, effort and dollars into this, and uh you know, afford it's got to be affordable to meet the as you as you've heard, the surplus land thing, and, above and beyond that you know, preferences preferences are good words and then whoever comes in with the best proposal wins.

A

Okay, well, thank you orton, and um you know I I don't want. um You know uh commentary to be the enemy of being able to apply so with jan. I I think that's fine, but with uh kathy. I just want to be. um You know adherent to the idea of not disqualifying any organization from applying for this, so uh janet van zorin. uh Did you want to speak to uh this? Will you have last word from the public on it before.

M

Yes, I agree fully with what oren and jan said, but there's another factor that we have to consider, and that is we've given a lot of thought to whether or not this should be a project that is exclusively for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities, and the answer to that question is no. We very much want this to be a diverse project and there's.

M

There are a lot of reasons for that that I won't go into right now, but one problem that we will run into if this is exclusively idd is that we will begin having trouble with getting services because there's there's something called the olmstead law or ruling that is coming into play here. And if we have a project that's exclusively for people with developmental disabilities, we will have issues getting appropriate services for those individuals.

A

Okay, uh well I'm I'm hearing you and thank you very much janet. uh I do have one more um member of the public and it's not someone I I think is interested in. uh You know from a from an organization or financial perspective in these builds. So let me go ahead.

A

uh Jenny, I assume that's uh jennifer griffin. Did you want to speak very briefly on this item.

V

Yes, I did. I understand that the setting of president- because you don't normally do this, but I'm just going to throw in my two cents and- and I will be very very brief, um regardless of what's going on- I'm very familiar with the long intent to try to provide housing in these sites. It goes back 14 years.

V

I think we should push. We've been promising the handicapped people with developmental that we would provide housing for them. We need to push for that. If the city has to do it themselves, we need to give these people homes, it should be for them. There are other places for other people, but I think that the developmentally uh handicapped uh people of this type- I'm sorry if I said it wrong.

V

I I'm very very much convinced that they need a home and if, if it cannot be done by the county or the state, we will do it ourselves. I am tired of having this conversation.

A

Thank you, jennifer. Your.

V

People cannot be provided housing, we will do it ourselves thanks.

A

Very much all right, so let's go ahead and bring this back. uh Vice versa, I'm going to ask that you modify your your motion to make it 100 affordable with a preference for eli units and to provide flexibility um to the the staff members uh compiling the rfp and rfq uh to optimize our chances of having a successful project here. uh Would you be willing to accept that friendly amendment yeah sure?

A

Thank you. Councilmember way, I see you're not in your head, but can you great okay, uh councilman your hand is raised. Did you want to speak before? I call uh for a roll call vote, madam city clerk, could you please conduct a roll call vote on the motion? That's on the table at this time.

B

That's a member, more hi council member way, hi council member willie, hi nice mayor, ciao, hi, mayor paul.

A

B

The mission carries unanimously.

A

Great, thank you very much, madam city clerk, uh and thank you very much for members of the public, um mr city manager, troop. I I see your hand is raised. Let me get to you before. uh We take a five minute break and I imagine you're probably going to ask that we take item 15 next. Is that correct.

C

Thank you mayor that that would be the um I'd like to have the indulgence of the council. Yes, so.

A

So item 15 is our housing element item. um Typically, we would have taken this before um you know under um orders of the day, but given that the request is from the city manager, uh do I hear a motion to move item 15 to going before item number 11., um councilmember, moore.

Q

I move that re-reorder, so item 15 is ahead of item 11.

A

Okay, councilmember wade: do you see it? Okay, let's uh go ahead. I don't see further hands raised at this point. um Councilmember moore your hand was raised. Did you want to make a comment on the motion.

Q

uh Yes, I I would also ask that item 15 only because we we've seen the bulk of this information already uh last year, that the staff report be shortened to just provide the updates any changes from last year, because we've all had time to read the report and to be mindful of that and and help us move on to our next items.

A

Okay, well, thank you very much for that. Councilmember, moore and I'll. Take that as um just uh further clarification of your motion, unless you want to explicitly change it in that regard,.

Q

You're shaking.

A

Your head so I'll.

Q

A

Q

Staff can um follow along with that and understand the the spirit of the request, big.

A

Senator advisement, okay, great so no further hands raised. uh Let's go ahead and vote on this motion to place item 15 next, madam city clerk.

B

Councilmember moore hi council member way, aye council member willie hi vice mayor ciao, hi, mayor paul.

A

Yes, commission.

B

Carries unanimously.

A

Great thanks very much. It is now 8 53. We will reconvene here at 8 59 with the meeting thanks for we'll see you then.

A