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Coverage of the January 24, 2023 Cupertino Planning Commission Teleconference Meeting.
A
A
A
B
B
B
F
B
I
will
second
that
well,
oh
also
before
we
do,
that
is
there?
Are
there
any
public
comments
on
the
minutes?
Let
me
let
me
go
to
the
participants
one
second,
okay,.
B
Okay,
I,
don't
see
it,
there's
three
participants
that
show
up
and
I
don't
see
any
of
them
raising
their
hands
to
comment
on
the
minutes.
I
mean
attendees,
so
we
can
have
a
roll
call
vote
on
the
minutes.
C
You,
commissioner,
Wong
by
Sherman.
I
B
Now
we
are
on
to
the
portion
of
the
meeting
for
oral
Communications
there.
Well,
first,
there's
no
post
governments,
and
this
part
of
the
meeting
is
reserved
for
persons
wishing
to
address
the
commission
on
any
manner
that
a
is
within
the
jurisdiction
of
the
commission
and
B
is
not
on
the
agenda.
Each
speaker
will
get
three
minutes
and
in
most
cases,
state
law
will
prohibit
the
commission
for
making
any
decisions
with
respect
to
a
matter
not
on
the
agenda.
J
The
federal
government
right
now
is
not
declaring
Santa
Clara
County
a
disaster
area
to
make
it
eligible
for
FEMA
Santa,
Cruz,
County,
San,
Benito,
County,
Monterey,
County,
I,
believe
San,
Mateo
County
have
all
been
declared
disaster
areas
and
I
want
to
throw
out
something
here.
People
may
not
be
aware,
but
the
Los
Gatos
border
goes
up
to
the
summit
on
Highway
17.
and
that
is
all
in
Santa
Clara
County.
That
area
is
a
complete
disaster.
Zone
Highway
17
has
had
repeated
potholes.
J
In
fact
one
of
them
is
called
potzilla
has
its
own
Facebook
page
I
almost
fell
into
them
two
times
in
the
last
two
weeks.
You
take
your
life
into
your
hands.
If
you're
going
to
drive
out
of
Los
Gatos,
even
Lark
down
up
to
Lexington
to
the
summit,
Bear
Creek
Road,
we
had
a
neighbor
that
got
lost
up
there
because
he
owns
property.
He
followed.
He
thought
there
was
a
road
that
was
open
going
toward
the
summit.
It
was
closed.
The
sign
was
wrong.
He
had
to
backtrack.
J
I
I
challenge
our
government
to
realize
that
there
are
parts
of
Santa,
Clara,
County
and
I
would
imagine,
there's
parts
of
South
San
Jose,
where
there
was
flooding.
What
about
the
alma
Bowl,
I
I,
really
think
Santa
Clara
County
should
be
listed
as
a
recipient
of
FEMA
I
believe
that
the
governor
wants
it,
but
for
some
reason
the
federal
government
isn't
it
I
know.
I
have
lived
it
I
almost
wrecked
my
car
in
the
ever-growing
potzilla
and
I
and
I
I've
been
saying
this
again
and
again.
J
Nobody
spends
any
money
on
Highway
17
through
Lexington,
and
if
you
look,
Lexington
is
full
by
the
way
and
it's
the
and
it's
overflowing,
which
is
fine.
But
if,
if
people
look
at
the
number
of
accidents
and
fatalities
in
that
area,
the
mudslides
I
I
am
absolutely
a
dumbfounded
that
our
county
is
not
working
with
Santa
Cruz
County.
To
try
to
fix
this
area.
J
Los
Gatos
I
know
has
had
its
challenges
because
my
brother
lives
there.
He
has
a
rental
home
now,
but
it
is
one
of
those
situations
where
the
volume
of
traffic
going
over
there
I
had
to
sit
in
the
middle
of
the
pothole
area.
It
was
raining
so
hard
that
the
potholes
were
reopening
after
Caltrans
filled
them
up.
We
need
to
have
a
solution
to
this,
and
my
I
see
no
reason
why
Santa
Clara
county
is
not
desired,
declared
a
FEMA
recipient
yeah,
okay.
Well,
maybe
maybe
the
president
needs
to
come.
B
Back,
thank
you.
Okay,
thank
you.
Jennifer
I,
just
would
point
out.
I
would
encourage
you
to
contact
your
County
Supervisor
since
that's
not
within
our
jurisdiction
of
Defending
commission.
Okay,
don't
see
any
other
hands
raised.
B
B
No
sir,
no
okay,
no
sir!
Okay!
Thank
you
and
there's
no
consent
calendar
okay.
So
we
are
on
to
item
two,
which
is
a
public
hearing
to
consider
appeal,
an
appeal
of
conditions
of
approval,
number
16,
grading
and
construction
hours
and
noise
limits
of
the
director
of
community
development's
approval
of
two
two-story
permits
to
allow
two
new
two-story
residences
on
adjacent
properties.
Applications
are
2022015
and
over
16.
the
applicant
is
Mike
Chen.
The
property
owner
is
Tracy
Sue.
G
I'm
sure
I
would
like
to
introduce
Emmy
sugiyama,
who
will
be
presenting
the
staff
report
for
this
item.
Sir
Emmy.
K
K
K
K
R22-016
proposes
a
roughly
4
200
square
foot,
two-story
residence
and
bar
2022-015,
and
that's
associated
with
Lot
B
proposes
a
roughly
4
300
square
foot
two-story
residents.
Neither
of
these
proposals
include
either
a
balcony
or
an
Adu.
K
K
The
condition
that
was
included
in
the
two
original
action
letters
was
consistent
with
cupertino's
Municipal
Code
chapter
1048,
which
allows
construction
to
take
place
Monday
through
Friday
from
7
A.M
to
8
pm
and
then
on
Saturday,
Sundays
and
holidays,
or
not
holidays,
but
Saturday
and
Sunday
from
9
A.M
to
6
p.m.
As
for
landscaping,
it's
slightly
different
with
with
Landscaping
activities
taking
place
from
Monday
through
Friday,
at
8,
A.M
to
8
pm
and
then
on
Saturday
and
Sunday,
from
9am
to
6
pm.
K
Staff
has
reviewed
these
allowable
hours
for
both
construction
and
Landscaping
activities,
and
would
like
to
note
the
key
differences
between
the
two
types
of
activities
for
construction.
It
is
seasonal
and
often
time
constricted.
It
requires
the
use
of
a
lot
of
heavy
equipment,
however,
that
heavy
equipment
is
used
in
intervals
rather
than
for
an
extended
period
of
time,
and
it
also
involves
a
coordination
of
a
lot
of
people,
usually
on
the
construction
site,
whereas
with
Landscaping,
you
typically
find
that
it's
more
year-round
and
can
be
formed
at
most
times
of
the
day.
K
So
just
as
some
additional
information,
the
appellant
is
currently
located
about
70
feet
from
the
proposed
construction
site
and
the
appellant
will
also
be
receiving
as
condition
or
as
required
by
title
17
of
the
city's
Municipal
Code,
a
notice
of
construction
and
dust
control
which
basically
outlines
how
long
the
constructed
is
expected
to
take,
as
well
as
the
different
machines
that
may
be
in
use.
During
that
time,
and
it
will
also
list
a
contact
for
any
complaints
related
to
noise
or
deaths
that
may
be
occurring
during
the
time
of
construction.
B
Okay,
very
good,
let's
see
so,
do
we
have
the
appellant
here
with
the
appellant
like
to
speak
and
then
the
and
then
Mr
Chad,
then
the
applicant.
B
B
L
Most
of
my
words
would
be
the
same
as
Emmys
and
words
except
most.
L
L
I
agree
with
her
that
maybe
it
isn't
consistent
all
the
way
through
the
probably
a
year
or
more
construction
at
7
A.M,
but
still
I.
Think
it's
inconsiderate
to
think
that
7
A.M
is
the
starting
time
you
could
I
could
see
it
at
a
commercial
site
like
it,
85
and
and
Stevens
Creek.
You
know
that
the
news
construction
there
that's
a
bit
different,
but
this
is
a.
This
is
a
small
little
area
and
the
proximity
to
our
houses
is
very
close
on
glott
scene.
B
G
Yes,
sir,
we
do,
we
have
Tracy
Sue,
who
is
the
who
is.
B
Also,
oh
I
see:
okay,
yeah,
okay,
okay,
welcome
Tracy,
go
ahead;
okay,.
N
N
I'm
mute
okay,
so
basically,
here
is
of
I.
Think
if,
if
you
looked
at
the
city,
the
garbage
pickup
time
it'll
also
start
at
seven
o'clock,
so
some
business
that
did
start
seven,
okay
and
during
construction.
There
is
a
particularly
in
the
very
beginning
like,
for
example,
foundation
and
that
that
required
the
very
heavy
equipment-
or
you
know,
like
a
concrete
Trucking
vehicle
here
personally
I-
think
that
it's
better
to
start
early
I
know
it's
noisy,
but
it
will
block
the
traffic
here.
N
Have
a
less
traffic,
so
I
support
I
mean
started
at
seven
o'clock.
Keep
at
the
existing
ordinance
yeah.
B
Okay
is
that
all
yeah
okay,
let's
go
to
see
if
any
member
of
the
public
would
like
to
speak
on
this
I
see
Jennifer
Griffin
welcome
Jennifer
go
ahead.
B
J
You
yes,
I
just
had
a
couple
of
comments
and
a
question:
I
was
wondering
how
close
the
new
house
is
going
to
be
to
Mr
Quinn's
property
and
whether
his
bedrooms
are
against
the
construction
side
of
the
house.
I
will
tell
you
that
one
of
the
issues
with
home
construction
because
I've
had
in
my
neighborhood,
we
have
very
small
lots
and
we've
had
I
had
a
large
home
built
next
to
me
that
took
over
a
year
to
build,
I
was
working
swing
shift
at
the
time.
I
got
home
at
1am.
J
We
were
in
the
county,
then,
but
I
my
sleep
was
interrupted.
As
of
you
know,
I
was
awake
by
seven
seven
o'clock
or
eight
a.m.
Etc
and
I
didn't
go
back
to
sleep
again.
One
of
the
main
problems
with
this
is
the
com.
I
I,
don't
think
it's
called
a
compressor,
but
it's
the
unit
that
they
use
to
provide
electricity
for
the
pneumatic
nail
drivers
and
stuff
like
that.
J
That
thing
kept
going
on
and
off
and
on
and
off
I
think
it's
the
electric
compressor
or
something
that
thing
went
24
it
was.
It
was
like
hearing
a
lung
breathing
continuously
and
it
was
right
against
my
back
with
area
it.
It
can
take
up
to
a
year
to
have
the
homes
constructed.
I
can
understand
that
completely,
but
I
think,
especially
now
with
people
working
from
home.
You
guys
might
want
to
think
about.
J
Okay,
the
7
A.M
I
thought
it
was
actually
8
A.M.
It
was
start
time
and
then
the
weekend
was
nine,
but
you
know
I.
It
looks
like
I'm
wrong,
I
think,
but
in
this
case,
7
30
might
be
a
better
time
to
start
this,
because
the
construction
workers,
you
know
that
the
property
owner
is
not
there
all
the
time.
Obviously,
and
the
architect
isn't
Etc,
but
it
it
can
be
very,
very
noisy
if
you
have
it.
The
other
thing
I'm
concerned
about
is
with
the
house.
Is
that
close?
J
If
you
have
someone
running
a
nail
gun
with
pneumatic,
that
is
what
drives.
That's.
That's
where
your
ears
go.
If
you
have
a
baby,
that's
trying
to
sleep.
I
I,
understand
that
if
seniors,
it's
very,
very
difficult
for
them
and
I
I.
Think
in
this
case,
because
the
homes
are
so
close
together,
7
30
might
be
a
good
compromise.
It's
going
to
take
at
least
six
to
nine
months
for
this
to
be
built.
Plus
you
have
the
noise
from
the
other
two
large
homes.
These
are
huge
homes,
4
000
square
feet.
J
It's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
noise.
I've
had
two
homes
built
a
kitty
corner
to
me,
and
we
could
hear
them
too
and
they're
and
they're
big
three
thousand
square
feet.
So
I
I
understand
that
this
is
an
issue
for
the
Builder
I
completely
understand
you
want
to
get
your
home
built,
but
there
are
three
big
homes
going
in
there.
B
You're
out
of
time,
okay,
okay
I,
don't
see
any
other
hands
raised.
So
we
can
bring
this
back
to
the
commission.
Who
would
like
to
speak
on
this.
B
O
Sorry
yeah
give
me
one
to
invite
the
applicant
or
the
if
they
had
any
responses.
Oh.
B
Okay,
sure
that's
a
good
idea:
okay,
yeah,
so
Mr
Quinn
is
that
construction
back
up
against
your
bedroom,
like
Jennifer,
was
asking
you
can
unmute
and
speak
if
you
wish.
L
B
L
That
is
screw
Circle,
so
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
buffer,
though
yeah,
but
it's
very
little
and
it's
just
a
I
think
it's
a
definite
issue.
Eight
o'clock
is
not
a
is
not
a
big
thing:
they're
getting
their
tools,
ready,
they're!
There's
things
ready
assembled
for
the
day's
construction,
that's
I,
don't
mind
having
that,
but
I,
don't
like
the
compressors
or
the
nail
guns
or
those
things
or
the
saws
going
at
at
seven
o'clock
or
7
30
I.
L
Think
eight
o'clock
is
is
very
reasonable
right
to
start
making
noise
right
yeah,
but
but
assembling
the
the
construction
material.
For
for
the
startup
of
of
you
know
it
could
start
at
seven
o'clock.
That
would
be
no
problem
at
all.
B
Right
very
good
and
Tracy:
do
you
want
to
respond
to
that.
N
Okay,
one
comment:
I
want
to
say,
is
about
okay.
Our
challenge
to
hear
is
about
like
a
pouring
the
foundation,
the
concrete
that
the
plant
that
grows
at
like
a
two
o'clock
or
three
o'clock.
So
if
we
deferred
there
is
no
material
available
for
us
for
pouring
the
concrete
yeah.
So
that's
my
concern.
If
we
differ,
then
it
means
about
okay,
the
job
that
we
probably
can
finish
in
one
day
now
we
spray
it
into
two
days.
B
Okay,
let's
go
back
to
the
commissioner's
commissioner
Marty
pot
rice
to
your
hand,
raised,
go.
I
Ahead
yeah,
thank
you,
chair
sharp,
so
I
have
some
questions
to
the
staff
as
well.
As
you
know,
question
to
the
Upland,
so
just
so
that
no
I
understood
this
correctly.
There
are
no
exceptions
granted
for
these
projects
right.
So
in
both
the
projects
that
that's
been
approved,
there
are
no
exceptions.
Everything
is
in
compliance.
Is
that
right?
That
is
correct.
Okay
and
the
construction
time
is
a
city-wide
guideline
right.
It's
not
right.
G
I
G
I
G
It's
usually
if
work
starts
ahead
of
time
we
I'm
aware
of
somewhere.
You
know
the
construction
may
have
started
at
6am
instead
of
7
A.M,
for
example,
somebody
may
have
just
started,
you
know
nailing
something
down
or
anything
like.
That
is
what
we
hear
generally.
I
I
do
remember
hearing
one
such
complaint.
You
know
about
the
earlier
start.
You
know
in
the
previous
hearing,
so
okay
and
but
that
was
more
to
do
with
you
know,
starting
sooner
than
you
know
the
allowed
time
right.
So
how
does
our
our
stuff
operation
compared
to
adjacent
cities
like
the
guidelines
that
we
have?
How
does
it
compare
to
you
know
Saratoga
or
you
know,
Los
Altos
or
no
Sunnyvale.
G
So
we
haven't
done
a
a
full-on
study
of
the
the
different
times,
but
we
are
very
close
to
what
the
other
cities
allow
and
they're
they're
I
did
want
to
just
address
that.
You
know
there
are
no
other
developments
that
have
a
delayed
start
time
in
our
city.
At
this
point,
okay.
I
So
so
we
haven't
done
that
so
far
right,
so
this
will
be
the
first
one
if
we
Grant
correct
I
presume
you
know
we
have
nice
level
guidelines
for
construction
right.
G
And
that's
not
really
not.
No
Saratoga
allows
construction,
beginning
7
30
a.m.
Campbell
allows
a
slightly
different
times,
but
we're
all
in
the
range.
Okay.
I
And
I
know
the
applicant
said
you
know
the
impact
of
you
know,
granting
this
exception.
She
said
you
know
concrete
pouring
would
still
over
from
one
day
to
two
days.
You
know
so
I
I
heard
that
that
was
going
to
be
one
of
my
questions
and
I
have
a
question
to
the
Upland.
If
approve
this
request,
no,
it's
going
to
be
more
of
an
exception
than
rule
because
there,
and
so
are
there
any
special
circumstances.
You
know,
supporting
your
exception
request
I'm
I'm,
trying
to
see
if
there
are
some
external
extenuating
circumstances.
L
No,
it's
just
a
general
complaint
of
noise,
but
when
Tracy
the
Builder
or
the
owner
of
the
property
mentioned
the
pouring
the
concrete,
that's
a
minor
element
to
the
saws
and
nail
guns
and
so
forth
for
the
for
the
wood,
construction
of
the
whole
building
or
or
buildings
plural,
it's
the
the
concrete
is,
is
minor.
L
I
F
Hi
there
hey
thank
you,
chair,
sharp
yeah,
so
I
I
did
go
by
the
site
to
take
a
look
as
well
just
to
get
a
feel
for
the
property
and
the
proximity.
I
do
have
questions
for
both
the
appellant
as
well
as
the
applicant
for
the
appellant
side.
You
know
just
just
from
a
noise
perspective.
I
think.
F
Has
there
been
any
other
Construction
in
the
neighborhood
in
the
last
15
years,
where
you've
been
no
okay,
got
it
and
then,
in
terms
of
you
know,
I'm
not
sure
where
the
commission
will
end
up
where
my
colleagues
will
end
up.
But
the
question
is:
if
there
are
exceptions
like
concrete
pouring
and
other
activities
like
that,
you
would
be
okay
with
making
those
exceptions.
If
that
was
something
agreed
upon
between
you
and
the
appellant
or
this
commission.
F
Should
you
be
open
to
those
okay
kind
of
curious
there
and
then
the
last
question
I
have
for
you
is
regarding
just
regarding
your
experience
with
other
construction?
Have
you
had
any
other
experiences
with
any
construction
in
the
past
with
Renovations
yourself
or.
L
Yes,
I've
had
my
own
brother,
I,
I
remodeled
in
2000
and
I
know
how
I
know
what
it
goes
on.
I
know
the
the
you
know
the
tools
and
the
supporting
compressors
and
and
nail
guns
and
so
forth,
and
that's
yeah,
that's
terrible.
You
know.
I
I
went
on
for
a
year
myself
right
here
and
I
I
don't
want
to
go
through
it
again.
F
All
right
good
to
know,
thank
you
to
the
applicant
quick
questions,
for
you
are
there
any
other
reasons
that
you
would
need
a
construction
crew
to
come
in
earlier
than
that's
seven
versus
eight?
This
is
directed
to
Tracy.
N
I
think
the
company
mainly
probably
is
on
the
framing
because
of
framing
they
use
our
nail
gun
and
I
know
the
the
the
pressure
machine
equipment
is
very
noisy
okay,
but
the
foundation
also
I
know
is
that
could
be
noisy
too
because
of
for
compaction
and
so
on.
It
could
be
noisy,
but
nobody
after
the
framing
time.
It
will
be
better
because
of
when
we
do
like
the
installation,
it
basically
no
noise
and
the
painting
no
noise
at
all
okay.
N
So
what
I
heard
here
is
that
many
on
maybe
on
the
framing,
which
made
takes
up
about
six
to
eight
weeks
time,
yeah
generated
the
noise.
F
Okay,
a
question
to
you:
have
you
and
Mr
Quinn
ever
had
a
conversation
directly
before
coming
here
to
appeal.
N
N
It's
like
a
defense:
I
fell
down
to
her
to
his
side,
so
in
general,
I
think
James
company
is
up
for
the
city
ordinance
some
not
particular
to
this
job
site,
but
this
job
site.
My
understanding,
is
about
a
lot.
C
is
adjacent
to
his
property,
but
our
construction
is
more
on
the
driveway
and
his
house
is
on
the
back
side
of
Lassie,
which
is
for
landscape
area.
So
it's
pretty
far
away
and
lot
A
and
B.
There
is
a
lot
C
in
between
here,
so
the
impact
should
be
smaller.
F
I
think
my
comment
to
you
is
is,
if
you
two
have
not
talked
before
about
this
issue,
should
the
ruling
go
one
way
or
the
other
I'm,
just
hoping
that
you
guys
have
a
chance
to
connect
and
have
a
conversation
so
that
you
know
you
can
make
accommodations
with
each
other
depending
how
the
ruling
goes.
So
it's
it's
useful,
I
understand
from
a
construction
perspective
that
many
times
the
crews
travel
far
away
as
far
as
two
hours
away,
and
they
do
need
to
get
in
early
and
get
out
early
and.
N
N
N
D
Yeah
I
agree
with
the
commissioner
Wang
is
talking
to
each
other
is,
is
definitely
a
good
idea.
It
will
resolve
a
lot
of
issues
which
are
cannot
be
addressed
by
the
by.
M
D
Ruling
here,
one
question
I
have
for
the
applicant
is
that
the
does
the
construction
company
gives
you
a
schedule
of
the
activities
during
the
day
like
what
they're
gonna
do.
First,
second,
third,
fourth,
so
and
so
forth
and
I'm
sure
they,
as
you
said
that
I
actually
visited
your
lot
and
saw
that
there
is
a
lot
of
space
in
front
which
is
facing
the
the
Main
Street,
which
is
not
facing
James
side.
D
So
some
of
the
activity
which
requires
any
pre-work
before
the
any
noise
making
equipments
can
be
turned
on
and
put
in
next
to
the
James
house.
That
can
be
done
in
the
front
of
the
Ohio
like
where
you
have
lot
of
open
space,
and
you
can
actually
do
that
kind
of
activity
that
is
possible
as
long
as
you
know,
the
the
schedule
of
the
activities
during
the
day
like
what
they're
going
to
do
first.
D
N
Okay,
thank
you.
I
just
saw
a
mute
to
myself,
so
you
you,
you
have
very
good
point,
since
we
have
a
ABC
three
lots
and
C
is
that
the
one
closest
to
James
home,
and
maybe
we
can
start
like
a
seven
o'clock
on
a
and
b,
which
is
on
a
busy
street
Buffalo
already
and
maybe
do
see
a
bit
later
yeah,
because
we
might
have
enough
work
for
a
lot
of
people.
Yeah.
D
Yeah
because
in
that
case
you
have
no
the
conflict
in
that
case,
because
then
you
are
not
working
towards
the
genocide,
and
so
that
is
that's
all
I
have
thanks.
H
Yeah
so
well,
I
think
a
bunch
of
things
which
I
wanted
to
have
already
been
raised.
H
H
It's
also
would
be
not
very
advisable
for
the
city
to
change
the
overall
way
of
operating
unless
they
are
truly
extenuating
circumstances.
So,
while
I
do
understand
the
concerns,
Mr
Quinn
has
I
think
us
setting
precedence
for
doing.
This
is
probably
going
to
lead
a
lot
more
to
learn
more
complications
down
the
line
because
you
know
Mr
Quinn
is
very
reasonable
in
terms
of
asking
for
eight
o'clock.
H
If
you
grant
that
somebody
will
ask
for
nine
o'clock,
somebody
asked
for
ten
o'clock
so
that
it's
so
there
we
will
open
up
Pandora's
Box
there
I
think
the
best
way
would
be
for
Mishu
and
her
companies
to
really
make
sure
that
Mr
Quinn
is
taken
into
confidence
in
terms
of
the
timing
of
different
things
and
the
stuff.
Where
there's
true
noise,
you
you
make
a
true
serious
effort
to
make
sure
you
don't
do
it
before
8
am
that
would
be
the
way
I
would
lean
towards
this
thing.
B
I
did
look
while
I
was
waiting,
so
Campbell
is
8
A.M
to
5
p.m,
and
they
don't
allow
Sunday
construction
at
all
from
what
I
see
on
their
website.
Saratoga
begins
at
7,
30,
A.M
and
I
do
agree
with
Mr
Quinn
that
there
is
should
be
a
difference.
I
know
it's
not
on
our
code
now
between
Construction
in
residential
areas
like
where
he
lives
and
Commercial
areas
say
like
where
they're
building,
filming
the
old,
the
new
Oaks
or
Westport,
and
where
valka
will
be
built.
B
I
think
another
difference
that
the
city
may
want
to
take
into
account
is
back.
When
these
times
were
set,
the
high
school
started,
I
believe
at
7
30
a.m,
and
now
because
the
district
decided,
the
students
need
more
sleep,
the
high
school
starts
at
8
30
a.m,
and
so
this
noise
would
be
going
on
starting
at
7
A.M,
which
you
know
I
think
would
be
disruptive
to
people
in
that
area
and
finally,
kind
of
unrelated
to
this
noise.
B
Actually,
for
days
with
some
cones
around
it
and
I
just
hope
when
this
construction
starts,
that
our
code
enforcement
and
Sheriff
that
we
enforce
the
fact
that
you
cannot
park
construction
equipment
in
the
bike,
lane
I
think
that's
very
important
in
this
area,
where
there's
students
riding
to
Kennedy
and
their
students
riding
to
Monte
Vista
along
above
Road,
you
know
my
feeling
is
that
they
should
not
be
running
compressors
at
seven
in
the
morning.
B
O
If
I
may
cheer,
it
sounds
like
you're
closing
the
public
hearing.
That's.
I
So
I
I
think
you
know
when
Commissioners
were
asking
questions.
Mr
Quinn
was
trying.
B
L
To
unmute
yourself,
yes,
I,
I,
totally
agree
with
you,
it
seems
like
it
has.
The
code
should
be
updated
to
the
the
current
times.
It's
a
it's,
it's
not
it
has.
It
should
have
Provisions
for
commercial
versus
residential
and
it's
noise
restrictions.
That's
his
and
so
I
think.
That's
your
points
are
are
very
good.
F
Oh
yeah,
happy
to
make
the
motion:
let's
see,
make
a
motion
to
uphold
yeah,
make
a
motion
to
uphold
the
director's
decision
to
approve
the
denying
the
appeal
and
uploading
the
director's
decision
to
approve
the
application.
Is
there
a
second.
E
B
F
I
think
I
think
in
the
spirit
of
this
commission
I
think
we.
We
all
believe
that
it
makes
sense
to
work
with
each
other
as
neighbors
before
you
come
here
and
and
I
think
there's
an
opportunity
here.
I
think
we've
identified
pain
points,
one
would
be
use
of
compressors
early
in
the
morning
and
the
other
piece
is
trying
to
get
workers
in
at
an
earlier
hour.
Mr
Quinn
has
generously
communicated
that
he's
fine
with
setup
and
people
getting
there
on
time.
F
She
just
doesn't
want
to
hear
loud
noises
before
eight
and
miss
you
I
think
you
understand
the
limits
of
construction
and
the
timing
that
you
have
and,
and
we
really
encourage
neighbors
to
work
with
each
other.
We
as
policy
makers
I,
think
the
ordinance
has
to
stand
even
though
I
I
do
side
with
Mr
Quinn
I
do
have
a
neighbor,
a
really
good
friend,
that
is
in
the
middle
of
construction
and
seven
in
the
morning.
We
do
hear
some
crazy
sounds
right,
and
you
know
it's
it
is
it
is.
F
It
can
be
a
nuisance,
especially
if
you're,
retired
and
so
I
just
I
would
just
you
know,
urge
miss
you
and
Mr
Quinn
to
get
together
come
up
with
a
plan
and
if
you've
got
framers
coming
in
for
the
next
six
to
eight
weeks,
if
they
can
just
hold
off
starting
a
little
bit
later,
that
would
help
and
Mr
Quinn.
You
know
if
you
understand
like
if
you
can
get
her
out
of
your
hair
quicker
and
get
the
construction
up
faster.
That
also
benefits
you.
So
that's.
I
Yeah
so
I
I
I
agree
with
you
know,
race
comments,
I
think
you
know,
Planning
Commission
is
here
to
serve
the
community,
so
we
are
here
to
listen
to
both.
You
know
applicant
and
Upland.
So
at
the
same
time
you
know
it's
our
duty
to
uphold
the
law
right
and
you
know
if
there
is
a
justification
for
exception.
You
know
we
could
make
an
exception,
but
you
know
in
this
case
you
know
we
don't
want.
I
H
I
actually
wanted
to
suggest
that
an
amendment
could
be,
or
we
can
set
the
motion
process
to
change
the
date.
The
change
the
start
time
in
residential
areas
to
7
30
instead
of
seven
that
might
solve
a
lot
of
problems
and
as
a
chair,
shaft
mentioned,
that
would
be
something.
I
would
encourage
us
to
consider
right.
B
B
All
right,
yeah,
that's
not
unreasonable.
Okay!
Thank
you.
Let's
see,
we
have
no
old
business.
We
have
no
new
business.
How
about
Staffing
commission
reports?
Does
anyone
have
anything.
G
I
do
have
a
couple
of
announcements.
Sorry.
G
So
the
Public
Works
Department
has
asked
me
to
let
everybody
know
that
there's
an
online
survey
to
get
community
feedback
on
what
the
community
would
like
to
see
at
the
revitalized
Memorial
Park.
It
will
be
posted
at
the
engage
Cupertino
website,
that's
www.engage
cupertino.org
and
that
will
be
active
until
February
22nd.
G
So
please
feel
free
to
take
that
survey
and-
and
let
your
friends
and
neighbors
know
to
take
it
as
well.
Additionally,
I
believe
there's
an
open
house
at
the
Cupertino
Senior
Center
on
Saturday
February
4th
between
10
a.m
and
2
p.m.
So
please
come
out
and
check
out
what
the
senior
center
has
to
offer.
There's
also
webinar
a
virtual
webinar
on
February
9th
at
7
pm
registration
is
available
on,
engage
cupertino.org,
I
believe.
All
of
this
is
related
to
revital,
realization
of
Memorial
Park.
So
please
feel
free
to
be
engaged
in
that
project.
G
We'll
try
to
hopefully
do
it
with
two
commission
two
Commissioners
at
a
time,
so
that
we
we
don't
run
into
any
brown
act
issues
or
we'll
coordinate
that,
and
that
will
reach
out
to
you
for
how
to
go
about
that.
Okay
and
one
more
announcement
that
I
wanted
to
add.
The
planning
Commissioners
Academy
is
also
at
the
end
of
March.
G
G
And
and
Sarah
can
help
you
with
that
I
just
want
to
share
the
website.
F
B
Okay,
okay,
yeah
I
went
last
year.
It
was
extremely
useful,
especially
I,
think
the
best
part
was
the
presentation
on
sequa,
which
is
extremely
complex
and
very
was
very
useful.
Okay.
So
now
it's
on
to
do
any
Commissioners
have
reports.
Besides
me,
if
you
attended.
D
D
Sent
right
up
for
Smart
City
initiative
to
peel
to
share
it
with
other
commissioners.
D
Yeah
so
I
think
I
I
don't
want
to
take
a
meeting's
time
there,
but
it
is
a
kind
of
a
read
up.
I
just
wrote
the
major
points
related
to
planning
of
the
Smart
City
initiative
and
what
how
it
affects
the
different
aspects
of
the
city,
so
it
you
might
have,
you
might
have.
B
F
F
I
F
I
H
F
I
do
actually
I've
been
attending
Cali
meetings
and
following
what's
been
going
on
at
the
state
level,
there's
a
lot
of
challenges.
I
think
the
public
should
know
that.
There's
a
lot
of
challenges
to
the
arena
numbers
and
to
the
way
those
numbers
were
calculated,
they're,
probably
pending
lawsuits
that
are
happening
coming
in
that
area
and,
second
of
all,
I
think.
F
It's
also
important
for
the
general
public
to
understand
that
the
league
of
cities
which
is
supposed
to
represent
local
control,
has
not
been
doing
their
job,
and
some
cities
are
looking
at
pulling
out
and
not
paying
their
membership
to
us.
I'll
probably
go
to
city
council
and
make
that
recommendation,
even
though
we
are
trying
to
get
a
planning.
Commissioners
Academy
I
do
understand
the
implications,
but
they
are
not
representing
our
interests
for
local
control
and
and
I.
Think
citizens
should
know
that.
So
that's
it
thanks.
Okay,.
B
B
He
spoke
about
a
ballot
measure,
that's
being
put
on
the
ballot
by
real
estate
developers
and
they've
collected
the
expected
collected
enough
signatures
to
make
it
on
the
2024th
hour,
and
this
will
make
it
more
difficult
for
the
cities
and
school
districts
to
fast
past
fees
and
bond
measures.
Does
that
impact
fees
and
levels
determined
by
the
Nexus
studies?
B
The
league
of
cities
is
going
to
oppose
the
ballot
measure,
of
course,
but
he
also
said
it's
important
that
member
cities
Express
their
opposition.
So
hopefully
this
will
be
discussed
at
cupertino's
legislative
Review
Committee,
and
we
can
take
the
position
also
Jason
Rimes
of
Cal
cities.
I.
Believe
he's
I
forget
his
title
legislative
policy.
B
Whatever
he
said,
as
as
a
result
of
the
projected
state
budget
shortfall,
there
was
going
to
be
500
million
dollars
for
affordable
housing,
funding
from
the
state
and
that's
being
cut
back
to
200
million,
since
it
presently
costs
about
a
million
to
build
one
unit
even
at
500.
B
It
has
almost
no
impact
200,
even
less
impact,
so
that
that
is
not
a
good
thing
and
then
finally,
there's
an
effort
being
pushed
by
developer
interests
and
some
anti-affordable
housing
groups
to
modify
se35,
and
this
would
eliminate
the
requirement
that
the
SB
35
projects
include
a
higher
level
of
affordable
housing
than
a
city
would
normally
require.
B
So
you
know
if
that
got
change,
you
know
in
Cupertino,
we'd
be
down
to
15
for
rental
and
20
for
for
sale
instead
of
the
50
that
we're
currently
supposed
to
get
over
with
the
velco
project
and
yeah.
That's
it
next
month,
tally
is
going
to
have
some
Statewide
elected
leaders
speaking
at
the
weekly
meetings,
and
that
should
be
very
enlightening
and
that's
all
I
had
on
that
anybody
else.
And
now
we
are
there's
no
one.
I
D
But
yeah,
but
do
read
the
Smart
City
initiative
paper:
I
wrote
okay
perspective
of
that
I
am
there
or
not?
Okay.
Thank
you.
B
F
On
behalf
of
commissioner
saxena
I
would
love
to
see
the
school
that
he
joined.
This
commission,
starting
out
with
as
your
first
initiative,
actually
be
something
that
comes
to
fruition
and
and
I'm
still
I'm,
still
looking
and
hoping
to
see
one
day
at
a
report
as
to
when
these
cell
towers
and
what
we're
doing
about
cell
tower
construction
is
going
to
be
so.
I
understand,
There's,
jurisdictional
issues,
and
but
that's
that's.
We
should
at
least
get
a
report
and
study
session
on
that
issue.
So
that's
it.
On
my
end,.
H
So
I
just
wanted
to
talk
about
a
race
thing,
so
I
guess
I
would
recommend
that
at
least
my
studies
suggests
that
for
ownership
housing
and
how
that
encourages
a
greater
turnover
improves
the
tax
place
and
also
has
a
lower
school
generation
ratio
than
Apartments.
Okay.
B
B
Yes,
I,
don't
want
to
say
any
more
about
that
here.
B
Okay,
anything
else
for
future
agendas
speak
now
or
forever.
F
Sure
I
do
want
to
have
a
I
do
want
to
what
is
the
process
to
getting
a
item
onto
the
agenda?
So,
given
that
you
know
if
we
wanted
to
hold
our
own
study
session,
you're
telling
us
that
we're
not
able
to
do
that
chair
foreign.
O
Sure,
commissioner
Wong,
the
conditioner's
handbook
provides
that
two
Commissioners
can
together
request
an
item
be
placed
on
a
feature
agenda
after
that
occurs,
then
the
staff
needs
on,
and
the
chair
and
myself
discuss
that
request
and
that
item
and
among
other
things
we
have
to
determine
whether
it's
something
that's
within
the
jurisdiction
of
this
particular
Planning
Commission.
And
you
know,
if
it
is,
then
we
schedule
the
item
as
appropriate.
F
O
I
would
need
to
think
about
it
a
little
more
carefully,
commissioner
Wong,
but
you
know,
since
you
know
so,
but
you
know
I
mean
I
I,
don't
know
whether
the
city
has
control
over
funding
issues
with
you
know
the
school
and
certainly
the
the
charge
of
how
housing
impacts,
School
patterns
and
certainly
within
the
Ambit
of
the
school
district.
So
there's
no
doubt
there
the
connection
between
what
we
do
at
the
Planning
Commission,
the
city,
that's
a
little
bit
different.
So
I
would
like
to
look
at
that
a
little
bit
further.
O
F
I
respect
that
I'm
just
I,
think
you
know,
because
if
we
Zone
certain
way
or
if
we
make
requirements
for
for
sale,
housing
versus
rental
homes
right
that
does
have
impact
to
the
community
and
also
does
impact
how
we
Zone
and-
and
that
would
be.
That
would
be
my
appeal
for
what
commissioner
saxine
is
asking
for.
But
I'll
take
this
at
a
different
point
in
time
when
it's
more
germane
but
I
appreciate
your
responses.
Hey.
H
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
the
scope
of
what
we
were
asking
was
Claire
to
to
Mr.
Wu
I,
think
the
kind
of
zoning
and
whether
we
have
for
sale
or
for
rent
housing
is
completely
under
the
jurisdiction
of
the
Planning
Commission
and
as
we
look
at
other
impacts
like
traffic
or
environment
or
SQL,
how
it
impacts
the
tax
space
for
the
schools
is
a
key
component
because
we
know
in
Cupertino,
in
spite
of
being
like
the
10th
or
the
11th,
most
wealthiest
city
in
the
world.
C
B
Yeah
Michael
I
really
need
to
have
a
meeting
with
you
about
this
and
maybe
April
Chris,
okay
and
Sarah.
What
you
got
do
you
have
something.
A
I
I
did
thank.
You.
I
saw
that
a
member
of
the
public
had
their
hand
raised,
but
it
is
now
lowered.
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that
someone
caught.
B
Oh
I'm,
sorry
yeah,
I
I
forgot
that
for
future
agenda
items
we
do
yeah
a
member
of
the
public
could
could
speak
on
that.
Let
me
let
me
go
back
over
there
and.
B
All
right
well,
thank
you,
Michael,
okay,
so
seeing
nothing
else,
I
think
we
are
ready
to
adjourn.
So
thank
you,
everybody
and
we'll
see
you
March
14th
or
whenever
our
next
meeting
happy.