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From YouTube: Cupertino City Council Meeting - May 19, 2022 (Part 1)
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Coverage of the Tuesday, May 19, 2022 Cupertino City Council Teleconference Meeting (Part 1 of 2)
A
A
Here,
thank
you,
madam
city
clerk,
and
for
setting
on
our
agenda
tonight
is
postponements
and
orders
of
the
day.
We
have,
I
believe,
18
items
on
our
calendar.
We
have
a
request
from
staff
to
move
item
16
to
our
june
7
2022,
regular
agenda
and
item
16
is
the
community
funding
grant
program
that
was
evaluated
by
our
parks
and
rec
commission,
and
so
is
there
anybody
from
our
council
that
has
a
request
for
postponements
and
orders
of
the
day
other
than
that.
A
A
A
A
D
Yeah,
so
perhaps
I
don't
have
the
right
agenda
pulled
up,
and-
and
maybe
someone
could
help
me
because
when
I
look
at
item
16,
I'm
seeing
consider
accepting
accounts
payable
am
I
am
I
just
looking
at
the
wrong
agenda
and
could
someone
send
me
the
right
one?
If,
if,
if
I'm
looking
at
this
in
error,
I
think.
E
A
A
Okay,
excellent
so
counselor
more
if
you
want
to
take
a
moment
to
examine
that,
but
that
would
I'll
go
ahead
and
read
the
subject
in
full
recommendation
from
the
parks
recreation
commission
to
approve
funds
in
the
amount
of
ninety
six
thousand
four
hundred
sixty
dollars
and
forty
six
cents
for
the
fiscal
year,
2022
to
1.83
community
funding,
grant
program
and
approval.
Finding
rather
final
funding
amounts
for
the
community
funding
program
to
be
included
in
the
recommended
budget
for
fiscal
year
2022-2023
and
that's
continued
from
may
17
2018.
A
I'm
a
little
bit
unclear
on
the
enumeration
here,
because
that
that
is
very
odd,
so
john
kitty,
council,
members,
willie
and
moore.
Where
did
you
pull
your
agenda?
I
didn't
want
to
get
too
much
into
an
exploration
of
that.
But
since
it's
two
of
you
that
have
the
same,
did
you
pull
your
agenda
from
the
online
source
or
did
you
pull
it
from
somewhere
else.
D
B
So
the
by
law,
the
clerk's
office
is
required
to
send
out
a
note,
a
notification.
After
an
item
is
continued
and
af,
resulting
from
the
meeting
on
tuesday
5
17.
There
were
items
that
were
continued
so
the
following
day.
We
sent
out
a
notification
with
all
of
those
items
enumerated
and
they
followed
the
517
agenda,
and
so
I
believe,
item
35
would
follow
the
fee
schedule.
A
D
D
So
it's
not
in
calendar
order-
and
I
noticed
this
earlier
today
for
another
for
for
another
committee-
that
this
has
happened,
and
I
and
I
hope
that
someone
gets
to
the
the
bottom
of
this
because
it
these
used
to
fill
in
in
a
logical
order.
But
if
you
pull
it
up,
it's
not
logical.
So
that's
how
I
missed
it.
Thank
you
and
I'll
continue
on
with
the
correct
agenda,
because
I
see
the
city
attorney
has
got
his
hand
up
thanks.
A
H
I
I
Sorry,
my
my
hand
is
going
to
have
to
go
back
up
sorry,
so
I
I
just
wanted
to
remind
everybody
that
this
is
not
a
debatable
motion.
Certainly
there's
there.
There
has
there's
some
flexibility
for
people
to
get
the
correct
agenda
in
front
of
them.
But,
but
you
know,
council
should
really
take
a
vote
on
it
before
further
discussion.
A
F
A
B
Motion
is
to
continue
item
16
recommendation
from
parks
and
recreation
commission
to
approve
funds
in
the
amount
of
96
460
and
46
cents
for
fiscal
year,
2022
2023,
community
funding,
grant
program
and
approval
of
final
funds.
Funding
amounts
for
the
community
funding
program
to
be
included
in
the
recommended
budget
for
fiscal
year.
2022
2023
to
the
meeting
the
regular
meeting
of
june
7th
2022.
H
F
A
Okay,
great,
thank
you
very
much,
madam
city
clerk,
and
so
we
are
on
to
our
consent.
Calendar.
The
consent
calendar
is
comprised
of
items
number
1
through
14
this
evening.
Would
anyone
like
to
pull
an
item
from
the
consent
calendar
from
a
council?
Vice
mayor
chow,
your
hand
is
raised?
Maybe
it's
still
raised
from
last
time
and
if
you
want
to
be
heard,
you'll
need
to
mute
yourself,
but
I
don't
see
your
hand
still
up
so
I'll
call
in
council
member
more.
D
Okay,
so
now
I
need
to
look
at
the
the
new,
the
new
listing.
Yes,
so
it's
you're
trying
to
move
consent
item
up
through
14.
I'd
like
to
pull
item
14.
If
I
have
that
correct
so
item
14
is
authorizing
the
seventh
amendment
of
agreement,
15-206
between
the
city
of
cupertino
and
professional
turf
management.
So
that's
currently
on
on
consent
and
I'd
like
to
pull
that
item.
A
D
E
A
A
A
A
A
Eight
thousand
four
hundred
and
eighty
seven
dollars,
which
was
continued
from
this
past,
tuesday's
regular
meeting
of
may
17th,
and
so
I
take
it
that
somebody
from
actually.
Why
don't
we
do
this
council?
Member
moore?
Since
you
pulled
this
item
off
consent?
Would
you
like
to
give
a
brief
summary
as
to
the
reason
that
you
hold
this
from
consent.
D
A
C
A
L
M
M
M
M
And
then
in
non-deploymental
again
we
see
the
transfers,
but
what
I'll
focus
on
is
a
sales
tax
estimate
increase
of
nine
million
dollars,
and
so
the
city
is
projecting
an
increase
to
its
sales
taxes.
So
the
city
has
currently
received
33
million
dollars,
which
is
already
more
than
what
was
budgeted
and
so
staff
is
recommending
to
increase
the
revenues
appropriation
to
36
million,
so
an
increase
of
9
million
dollars-
and
this
is
in
line
with
projections
from
our
sales
tax
consultant
hdl.
A
Okay,
thank
you
very
much,
thomas
I'll.
Go
over
to
members
of
the
public
with
any
comments
at
this
time.
So
I'll
remind
the
members
of
the
public
that
you'll
have
three
minutes
to
make
the
comments
we'll
go
from
the
order
of
zoom
and
then
anyone
on
the
phone.
You
can
press
star
nine
on
your
on
your
phone
to
be
to
raise
your
hand
and
then,
during
the
time
that
the
first
person
is
speaking
as
with
all
comments
you
can
email.
A
Your
comment
to
city
clerk,
all
one
word
at
cupertino.org
and
up
to
three
minutes
of
that
email
will
be
read
into
the
record
by
the
city.
So
this
time
I
don't
see
anybody
with
their
hand
raised,
and
so
I
will
move
this
back
for
item
10
to
council.
We
do
have
a
hand
raised
from
council
member
moore,
and
so
why
don't
you
start
us
off
with
items.
D
M
So
I'll
answer
the
question
related
to
sales
tax,
and
so
in
fiscal
year
2021.
The
city
saw
significant
increases
in
its
sales
tax
revenues,
and
this
wasn't
due
to
increases
in
online
sales
as
well
as
business
to
business
technology
purchases
and
both
of
those
also
caused
the
city's
pool
allocations
to
increase
as
well,
and
so
the
city
received
approximately
40
to
41
million
in
sales
tax
revenues
in
fiscal
year
2021.
M
But
the
city
expected
that
to
be
a
one-time
experience
due
to
the
pandemic
and
so
for
the
fiscal
year,
22
the
city
forecasted
revenues
of
27
million
dollars,
but
as
a
third
quarter.
So
as
of
march
2022,
the
city
has
already
received
33
million,
which
is
approximately
6
million
over
what
was
originally
budgeted
and
then
with
one
more
quarter
remaining
in
the
year.
D
H
M
So
hdl
reviews
the
city's
sales
taxes
on
a
quarterly
basis
and
provides
us
historical
data
as
well
as
projections
for
the
next
approximately
five
years.
And
then
this
data
is
also
provided
by
industry
group,
but
because
they
are
showing
us
numbers
by
industry
group
that
data
is
currently
confidential
because,
due
to
the
concentration
of
our
taxpayers
in
the
business
to
industry,
exact
numbers
for
that
group
are
confidential.
But
we
can
look
into
providing
general
information,
such
as,
like
a
high
level
forecast.
M
A
A
The
recommended
action
I'll
remind
everyone,
is
first
to
accept
the
city,
manager's
third
quarter,
financial
report
for
fiscal
21
to
22
and
second,
to
adopt
resolution
22-059
approving
the
budget
modification
number
21,
22-198,
increasing
appropriations
by
529
935
and
revenues
by
nine
million
four
hundred
forty
thousand
four
hundred
and
eighty
seven
dollars-
and
I
see
council
member
moore
your
hand
is
raised
as
well
as
vice
mayor
ciao,
so
councilmember
moore.
Would
you
like
to
make
that
motion?
I'm
certainly.
H
H
A
And
okay,
so
I
think
that's
the
last
hand,
that's
raised
I'll.
Just
make
a
couple
of
comments
on
this.
You
know
I.
I
think
it
is
very
important
for
us
to
to
realize
that
we're
in
a
very
specified
economy.
Here,
I've
heard
in
the
past
that
we
are
pretty
leveraged
on
one
particular
entity,
and
you
know
I've
heard
analogies
as
to
you
know,
company
town,
sort
of
thing.
A
I've
never
really
agreed
with
that
I
mean,
I
think,
we're
in
an
ecosystem,
certainly
and
cupertino-
is
a
fairly
fairly
unique
community
in
a
lot
of
ways,
and
so
I
mean
for
me
if
you
take
the
company
town
analogy,
and
it's
always
been
my
perspective
since
I
you
know
started
not
just
on
councilwood
before
then
it's
not
really
a
company
town
in
the
sense
of
the
1800s.
It's
really.
If
you're
taking
all
company
towns,
you
know
west
or
east
of
mississippi.
That
would
be
pretty
much.
A
One
thing
I
will
say
is
that
over
time
you
know
there
was
a
deal
inked
in
the
90s
that
gave
cooperating
a
little
bit
less
than
their
title
to
on
this
business,
to
business
tax
and
during
the
entitlements
of
apple
park
that
actually
was
raised,
depending
on
how
you
describe
it
by
30
or
15
15
from
50
cents
on
the
dollar
to
65
cents
on
the
dollar,
so
we're
actually
getting
65
percent
of
what
we
what
we
could
be
getting,
and
it's
just
been
an
ongoing.
You
know
conversation.
A
The
final
point
that
I'll
make
is
that
you
know,
I
think,
the
best
way
to
steward
your
money-
and
I
think
everyone
knows
this
intuitively
around
here,
although
I
guess
the
point
often
gets
lost
when
you
know,
people
looking
from
the
outside
is
is
basically
to
spend
your
dollar
wisely,
and
so
you
know
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it's
nice
to
see
this,
but
I
mean
I'm
not
particularly
surprised.
People
are
buying
more
devices.
A
You
know
there
will
be
more
business
to
business
kind
of
things,
but
I
I
think
at
the
end,
you
know
we
should
just
really
kind
of
take
this
with
a
grain
of
salt,
and
you
know
keep
doing
what
we're
doing
and
be
very
thoughtful
about
how
we,
you
know,
set
forth
our
our
our
expenditure
dollar,
and
you
know
how
we
approach
this
as
well.
So
those
are
my
my
thoughts
on
this
vice
mayor
ciao.
You
have
your
hand
raised
at
this
point.
H
Yeah,
thank
you
so
yeah.
Thank
you
for
mentioning
the
65
sales
tax
reduction,
now
reduction,
35
reduction
and
I
remember
I
requested
a
document
on
exactly
what's
the
condition
of
this
reduction
can
can
we
get
that
because
I
keep
hearing
about
that,
but
I'm
not
sure
what
the
circumstances
under
which
this
was
granted
and
then
it's
an
indefinitely.
A
B
A
D
Okay,
thank
you
mayor
paul,
so
perhaps
if
we
could
have
the
the
seventh
amendment
to
the
agreement
pulled
up
by
a
member
of
staff
that
might
help,
along
with
the
expenditure
distribution
and
just
while,
that's
being
located
so
how
this
this
contract
began
in
december
3rd
2015
and
then
on
june
22
2016,
there
was
the
first
amendment
to
the
to
that
contract
and
then
the
following
june
and
2017.
There
was
a
second
amendment
and
then
again
in
2018
third
amendment
fourth
amendment.
D
So
these
were
annual
amendments,
so
the
first
contract
was
only
for
actually
a
six
month
period
and
then
subsequently
they
were
one
year
long
amendments
and
this
current
amendment
is
asking
for,
for.
I
believe
it
would
be
again
a
six-month
period
taking
us
to
december
31st,
and
the
at
issue
with
this
is
that
the
original
contract
was
only
for
half
a
year.
But
really
after
that,
the
amendments
were
all
for
annual
contracts
so
to
in,
and
the
amount
is
205
200.
D
If
you
scroll
to
the
expenditure
distribution
on
on
the
third
page
of
this
document,
which
you
have
pulled
up,
so
you
can
see
when
the
amendments
happened,
and
then
you
have
the
expenditure
distribution
of
205
000.
Now,
when
I
look
at
the
purchasing
policy
for
the
city
of
cupertino,
it
seems
to
me
that
this
should
go
out
or
should
have
gone
out
to
bid
at
some
point.
D
This.
I
I
in
in
the
the
city
attorney
can
correct
me,
but
I
think
this
falls
under
general
services
operating
or
maintenance
services
and
the
category
is
greater
than
175
000
we're
looking
at
205
and
the
process
says
formal,
competitive
bidding
or
rfp,
with
approval
from
the
city
manager
and
the
authorization
form
authorized
by
the
department
head
contract
approved
by
city
manager
and
city
council.
D
So
to
me
this
should
go
should
have
gone
out
to
bid
at
some
point,
and
I
think
at
this
point
I
I
would
like
to
understand
why
it
didn't
go
out
to
bid
over
this
period
of
time,
and
I
think
that,
as
a
as
a
policy
continuing
to
amend
a
contract,
this
is
now
the
seventh
year.
We're
on
this
seems
kind
of
questionable.
D
If
they
are
the
the
best
service
provider
of
this
service
for
us,
then
then
the
the
the
bid
process
should
reflect
that
and
they
will
be
awarded
the
contract.
But
my
concern
is
that
we
have
just
simply
been
approving
these
amendments
year
over
year
over
year,
we're
down
to
seven
of
them.
It's
over
the
amount
that
I
understand
in
the
purchasing
policy,
we're
supposed
to
be
having
avoid
the
bid
process.
So
those
are
that's
the
sum
of
my
issues.
F
A
Thank
you
very
much,
councilmember
moore,
that
that
was
a
very
clear
recitation
of
the
reason
that
the
items
pulled.
So
let
me
refer
this.
You
know,
for
the
purposes
of
effectively
having
a
presentation
to
the
city
attorney
as
well
as
director,
mcgreeney
and
then
just
to
signpost
it
I'll,
then
open
up
the
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
speak
on
it
and
then
bring
him
back
to
city
council,
and
so
chris
or
joanne.
I
O
About
that,
yes,
I'm
happy
to
speak
to
why
this
rfp
has
not
gone
out
as
of
yet
and
that's
for
a
couple
of
different
reasons
and
certainly
best
practices.
We
definitely
want
to
get
the
rfp
issued
and
out
for
bids
for
this
maintenance
and
soil
testing
out
of
the
golf
course
due
to
staff
vacancies
and
turnover,
as
well
as
other
council
priorities
that
we've
had
to
manage
this
year.
A
Go
back
to
you
after
we
hear
from
members
of
the
public
okay,
so
I
don't
see
any
hands
raised,
but
I'll
go
through
my
regular
recitation
for
any
members
of
the
public.
You'll
have
three
minutes
to
speak:
you'll
need
to
raise
your
hand
and
zoom
or
press
star
nine
to
raise
your
hand
and
zoom
if
you're
on
the
phone
by
the
time
that
the
first
member
of
the
public
is
done
speaking
and
then,
if
you're
listening
to
this,
I
guess
on
the
city
channel
or
on
youtube
you'll.
A
You
can
also
email
city
clerk.
All
one
word
at
cupertino.org
during
the
time
the
first
person
is
speaking
and
up
to
three
minutes
of
your
email
will
be
read
to
the
record
during
during
the
public
comment
time
for
this
item,
so
seeing
no
hands
raised
from
the
public
I'll
go
back
to
council
member,
more
followed
by
vice
mayor
ciao,
councilmember
moore
follow-ons,
to
this
item
number
14.
D
A
D
D
I
have
a
problem
with
having
contracts
started
and
done
as
a
six-month
period
like
this,
when
you
know,
or
or
have
some
some
expectation
that
it's
going
to
be
a
full
year
long,
because
it
ends
up
looking
like
it's
underneath
the
the
contract
limit
of
which-
and
I
understand
there
is
some
discrepancy
between
the
175
000
on
the
purchasing
policy
and
apparently
there
might
be
some
other
number
within
the
municipal
code.
That's
different,
but
the
problem
I
have
with
that
is
that
it
looks
like
it's
below
the
limit
to
start.
D
So
here
we
are
seven
years
into
this
and
now
we're
talking
about
an
rfp,
but
it
seems
to
me
that
that
needed
to
have
happened
when
they
drafted
amendment
one
also.
I
would
like
to
see
what
the
actual
exhibit
a
is
for
the
services
and
what's
changed
in
seven
years,
and
also
why
is
it
still
205
200?
After
all
this
time?
No,
no
changes.
Nothing
is
different
after
this
many
years.
I
I
find
that
quite
hard
to
believe.
I
Yeah,
so
so,
if
if,
if
there's
a
multi-year
contract
that
would
trigger
you
know
different
different
levels
of
review
and
different
processes
under
the
purchasing
policy,
then
you
know.
Certainly
you
know.
One
of
the
things
that
we
look
like
look
at
in
our
contract
review
process
is
whether
you
know
that
that
that
contract
is
being
you
know,
improperly
segmented,
to
avoid
you
know,
either
council
approval
and
or
a
competitive
visit
fitting
process.
I
So,
and
I
can't
speak
to
what
we've
done
you
know
seven
years
ago,
but
that
that's
the
process
that's
in
place
now,
and
you
know-
and
here
you
know
there
is
an
amendment
it
it
it
it's
it
it,
and
but
the
reason
that
that
we're
not
going
not
going
through
the
competitive
bidding
process
is
not
because
the
amendment
is
less
than
the
the
competitive
bidding
threshold.
But
rather
this
is
this.
I
D
I
I
About
the
circumstances
of
that
contract
adoption
in
2019
to
evaluate
that
now
I
mean
I,
I
can't
tell
you
now
that
parks
and
recreation
is,
you
know
pursuing
an
rfp,
but
there
are
ebay-
and
you
know
as
well
as
the
city
attorney's
office-
is
recommending
approval-
that
of
this
contract
at
this
time,
to
allow
for
six
more
months
for
for
park
maintenance
to
continue.
Why
that,
while
that
document
is
finalized,.
D
Okay,
may
I
ask-
and
maybe
maybe
this
is
a
question
for
this-
the
city
manager
or
assistant
city
manager?
How
long
does
it
ordinarily
take
to
have
have
an
rfp
circulated
and
have
the
bids
come
in
and
select
another
a
service
provider
or
the
same
service
provider?
I'm
thinking
that
we
don't
need
to
extend
for
six
months.
D
We
can
extend
for
a
three
month
period
instead
and
go
through
the
and
have
staff
go
through
the
evaluation
period
and
form
the
new
form,
a
new
contract
then-
and
there
might
be
things
that
need
to
change.
So
I'm
a
little
dismayed
that
I
didn't
see
exhibit
a
if,
if
someone
can
forward
that
to
me,
I'd
like
to
know
what
the
the
actual
contract
has
been
for
and
has
there
been
no
changes
in
that
contract
in
seven
years,
sorry,
jim
and
let's.
C
That
thank
you,
mayor,
councilmember,
moore,
excuse
me
the
I
don't
say
a
reason,
but
because
I
was
most
of
us
weren't
here
at
that
time,
but
trying
to
get
an
rfp
done
does
take
some
time.
I
know
during
the
pandemic,
the
recreation
staff
was
narrowed
down
considerably
to
just
a
few
people
and
that
precluded
them
from
doing
others,
as
they
were
also
taking
on
many
other
jobs
that
the
other
staff
that
were
no
longer
there
were
doing
and
that's
when
they
got
back,
not
quite
the
full
staff.
C
Why
six
months
three
months
is
usually
too
short
for
most
anything
just
because
of
the
timing
on
getting
rfps
or
documentation,
getting
it
to
council
getting
something
approved
that
usually
takes
more
than
just
a
three
month
period
of
time.
So
that's
why
we
do
that
doesn't
mean
it
has
to
go
six
months.
If
we
can
get
it
done
before,
then
we
can.
But
I
don't
know,
I
don't
know
about
the
past
history
on
it,
but
that's
usually
what
happens
and
joanne.
I
don't
know
if
you
have
any
other
information.
O
No,
I
would
just
add
on
to
that.
You
know
we're
hoping
to
bring
a
contract
awarded
in
you
know,
september
or
october,
but
we
like
to
buffer
in
a
little
bit
of
time,
especially
it's
just
been
really
hard
to
gauge
covet
and
people
being
out
sick.
There
keeps
being
these
waves,
and
so
I
think
that
you
know
sometimes
we
don't
buffer
in
enough
time,
and
so
we
just
wanted
to
do
that
in
this
case.
H
H
C
Thank
you
mayor.
Let
me
get
with
staff.
I
don't
think
there
should
be
any
issue.
You
know
for
your
links
in
to
the
different
policies.
I
just
have
to
verify
that
first,
but
it's
not,
I
don't
think
it's.
I
don't
think
it's
an
issue
but
I'll
have
to
check
and
see
first,
but
that
is
something
we
can
look
into.
Yeah.
A
K
So
my
comment
is,
you
know:
coming
from
a
fremont
union
high
school
district,
11
years
of
mentoring,
five
school
sites
plus
the
district
office
plus
adult
school,
there
are
a
lot
of
maintenance
things
to
do,
and
I
totally
I
think
our
city
also
has
it.
So
I
think
staff
with
their
time
constraint
and
their
capabilities
might
have
chosen
to
continue
some
contract.
That
looks
really
good
and
keep
it
going,
and
then
you
know
find
the
right
time
to
do
a
rfd
review
with.
K
So
I
I
will
leave
that
to
the
staff
and
the
city
manager's
discretion
and,
of
course,
a
notice
to
the
council
is
good,
but
I
can
see
this
is
a
contract.
That
means
the
minimum.
I'm
not
saying
that
we
should
not
go
for
an
rsp
or
we
evaluate
it,
but
you
know
the
staff
probably
has
to
pick
and
choose
what
what
how
they
put
their
time
and
effort
into
doing
what.
So
that's
what
my
understanding
from
the
staff
report
and
the
inquiries?
Thank
you.
A
Yeah
my
comment:
I'm
just
trying
to
square
this
with
how
blackberry
farm
corridor
has
been
kind
of
evaluated
over
the
years.
So
this
one
started
at
the
end
of
2015.
I
think
and
now
that
it's
in
the
seventh
amendment
it
tells
me
that
this
has
been
a
year
by
year
process
and
I'm
just
trying
to
search
my
memory
for
what
we've
done
in
terms
of
evaluating
the
corridor.
It's
actually
been
a
fairly
significant
generator
of
activity
within
our
recreation
and
community
services
department
that
particular
quarter.
A
There
was
a
fairly
significant
master
plan
that
we
ended
up,
morphing
into
a
city-wide
master
plan
for
parks
and
recreation,
and
then
every
now
and
then
you
do
hear
about
irrigation.
You
hear
about
you,
know
the
water
costs,
but
but
I
I'm
not
really
sure
how
that
would
jive
with
how
this
has
been
a
maintenance
contract.
That's
been
prolonged
on
an
annual
basis.
I
I
mean
I
hear
what
councilmember
was
saying,
but
I
think
that
there
are
larger
considerations
here
in
terms
of
adherence
to
policy.
A
I
mean
if
we're
talking
six
or
seven
years,
then
you
know
to
the
extent
that
we
could
have
anticipated
this.
You
know
it
could
have
been
rfp'd
out
for
a
multi-year
contract,
for
instance,
which
might
even
give
us
some
cost
savings.
I
don't
know,
but
we
won't
know
right
right
now
right,
because
you
know
we
didn't
have
that
opportunity
to
consider
it.
So
you
know
not
trying
to
second-guess
procedure
or
you
know,
get
into
the
so-called
dichotomy
between
policy
and
operations.
But
we
do
have
a
policy,
and
you
know
I.
A
I
don't
know
whether
it's
really
that
satisfying
to
hear
that
you,
the
rfp's,
you
know
going
out
and
we
have
personnel
issues
because
you
know
personal
issues
are
relatively
recent.
They're,
certainly
not
seven
years
in
terms
of
you
know,
kind
of
like
community
and
society-wide
impacts,
or
anything
like
that
so
yeah
and
if
there's
some
kind
of
connection
between
how
the
corridor
has
been
evaluated
over
time
and
looked
at
over
time
and
how
this
has
been
kind
of
set
forth
on
an
annual
basis.
A
I
mean
I'd,
be
happy
to
to
hear
it
from
stuff.
Maybe
I'm
missing
something.
You
know
maybe
the
uncertainty
or
something
has
kind
of
like
you
know,
dragged
along
in
in
something
of
a
tenuous
manner
over
time
or
something
I
I
don't
know
but
but
to
me
it
sounds
like
there's
there's
either
that
going
on
or
it's
simply
a
matter
of
hey
we
hit
at
the
end
of
the
year
and
let's
just
go
ahead,
maybe
the
first
one
or
two
times
it
seemed
pretty
much.
A
You
know
not
certain,
but
then
after
three
or
four
or
five
or
now,
six
and
then
seven
times
it
just
seems
as
a
matter
of
course-
and
you
know
I
I
do
tend
to
agree
that
at
some
point
you
know
earlier
than
this,
we
should
be
leaning
on
our
policy
to
see
whether
there
are
larger
points
to
preserve
here.
In
terms
of
you
know
why
we
go
out
to
bid
for
this
kind
of
thing,
with
a
threshold
amount,
that's
very
clearly
over
175
000,
councilmember,
moore,
oh
and
jim.
C
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor.
I
was
just
going
to
state
that
you
know
we
had
the
different
changeover
in
the
different
department.
Heads
and
joanne
came
in
right
in
the
pandemic.
You
know,
and
we
had
you
know
the
reduction
in
staff
so
trying
to
look
backwards
is
why
wasn't
it
done
in
14,
15
16?
Those
are
nobody's
here
at
that
time,
but
when
joanne
came
on,
this
was
something
on
her
list
and
she's
moving
forward
with
it.
C
F
A
I
I
don't
want
to
get
the
sense
that
I'm
trying
to
you
know
throw
anyone
under
the
bus
either
you
know
current
or
or
in
the
past
it's
just
trying
to
try
to
figure
out.
You
know
how
did
it
get
from
2015
to
2022
on
an
annual
basis,
extensions
of
yeah
I
mean
I
I
get
the
last
couple
years
right
I
mean
you
know.
Joanne
was
was
transitioning
in
and
you
know
unfortunately
joanne
you,
you
won't
have
like
a
really
normal
time.
You
know
you're
doing
your
cupertino
stented.
A
You
know
parks
and
recreation,
recreation,
community
services,
director,
but
you
know
I
think,
we've
done
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
positive
things.
You
know
in
terms
of
trying
to
move
this
forward.
It
does
sound
like
it's
going
out
to
an
rfp,
and
so
you
know,
maybe
maybe
this
discussion
is
sufficient.
I
I
don't
necessarily
see
what's
gained
by
kind
of
kind
of
putting
this
on
a
hiatus
I
mean.
Certainly
you
can't
argue
that
the
current
vendor
doesn't
have
experience.
D
Hey
thank
you.
I
I
actually
do
personally
want
to
see
this
item
come
back
when
I
go
to
the
the
actual
budget
for
blackberry
farm
golf
course,
and
I
do
think
that
your
initial
question
mayor
paul
was
was
was
actually
pretty
pretty
interestingly
spot
on
when
you
asked
if
it
was
going
to
be
a
public
works
presentation.
D
The
proposed
budget
states
on
page
357,
the
overall
decrease,
is
due
to
the
reduction
in
materials
as
a
result
of
the
reallocation
of
maintenance
costs
to
public
works
under
the
account
five
sixty
eighty
seven
to
sixty.
I
look
at
the
that
item
budget
unit.
Five
sixty
eighty
seven
two
sixty
it
only
has
a
contract
services
amount
of
24
000,
which
wouldn't
cover
this
at
all.
D
A
F
H
Yeah,
so
thank
you
very
much
for
getting
this
done
in
a
timely
manner
for
this
under
all
the
challenges.
I
know
that
we
really
need
this,
but
I
also
want
to
find
out
how,
in
the
future,
we
can
improve
that.
So
we
are
extending
the
contract
for
six
months,
only
not
one
year.
This
time-
and
I
understand
it-
takes
at
least
six
three
months
to
do
the
rfp.
So
if
we,
what
would
be
the
ideal
time
how
many
months
we
need
to
do
an
rfp.
O
So
our
department
is
not
actually,
you
know
doing
this
alone.
We're
collaborating
with
public
works
on
this
item
and
so
we're
anticipating
and
we
have
been
collaborating
with
the
city
attorney's
office
as
well
as
public
works,
to
refine
the
scope
and
we
will
be
doing
pre-bid
walk-throughs
as
well
as
analyzing
the
submittals
and
that's
a
team
effort.
O
Sometimes
that's
hard
to
organize
when
you're,
not
just
one
department
and
you're
prioritizing
different
things,
so
we're
anticipating
it
we'll
take
three
to
four
months
and
we're
just
buffering
in
another
month
or
two
just
in
case
there
are
any
hiccups.
Timing,
wise
and
I
see
that
michael-
has
raised
his
hand.
So
I
will
defer
any
other
information
to
him.
H
Yeah,
so
we're
extending
for
six
months
now,
because
we
anticipate
to
do
rfp,
which
we
are
planning
to
do
and
that
with
that
will
give
us
time
to
complete
that
in
six
months
and
at
that
time
it
will
be
a
multi-year
contract
likely
amending
every
year.
But
then
it
will
be
with
understanding
about
the
year.
So
it
can
maybe
negotiate
a
better
price.
E
A
I
don't
want
to
kind
of
look
back
with
hindsight,
you
know
being
2020
but
yeah.
I
I
I'm
not
100
certain
whether
it
would
have
been
all
that
inclusive.
At
that
point
I
mean,
I
think,
given
the
fact
that
we
were
able
to
hold
on
to
all
of
our
full-time
staffers
through
really
good
fiscal
decisions
in
the
last
three
or
four
years.
A
I
I
mean
I
just
I
I
I
I
don't
mean
to
push
back.
You
know
disrespectfully,
but
I
mean
I
think
in
terms
of
the
turnover
of
staffing,
if
we're
looking
at
it
a
couple
years
ago.
Almost
now
I
mean
I
think,
probably,
but
I
I
know
a
lot
of
things
were
going
on.
Of
course,
we
all
have
a
memory
of
you
know
how
to
how
to
balance
out
the
various
programmatic
elements.
A
D
Yes,
thank
you,
mayor,
paul
and,
and
I
really
appreciate
what
michael
is
adding
to
this
discussion.
However,
we
don't
have
that
the
contract
that
he's
referencing,
that
that
it
if
it
was
a
five-year
contract-
originally
I
I'm
I'm
unaware
of
it
and-
and
I
still
don't
have
any
idea
what
what's
what's
in
the
contract.
So
I
I
have
problems
with
approving
that
and
I
and
I
don't
see,
given
that
we
have
a
few
meetings
before
before
the
expiration
of
this
particular
amendment.
D
D
P
Thank
you
and
just
add
a
little
bit
of
clarification,
so
the
the
budget
reference
that
council
member
moore
has
identified
is
for
the
facilities
maintenance
element
of
blackberry
farms,
not
for
the
turf
maintenance.
So
it's
a
little
a
little
bit
different
element,
turf
maintenance.
That
contract
remains
with
with
the
parks
and
rec
department
for
specific
to
so
just
wanted
to
separate
the
two
conversations
that
we're
having
here.
One
is
about
what
happened
in
the
past.
What
we've?
What
we've
dealt
with?
I
think
there's
probably
some
some
learning
experiences
we
could
have
there.
P
We've
had
a
lot
of
transition
as
I've
seen
in
my
time
here
and
so
perhaps
exploring
what
the
the
challenges
were
is
going
to
be
beneficial
so
that
we
don't
make
any
missteps
that
might
have
been
made
again.
But
really
what
we
need
to
do
here
is
move
this
one
forward.
The
contract
does
expire.
We
need.
We
need
to
be
able
to
mow
the
turf
at
blackberry
farm
that
that's
really
just
what
it
comes
down
to.
P
As
the
the
fact
in
front
of
us-
and
you
know
golf
course
without
mode
turf-
is
not
no
longer
a
golf
course.
So
if
we
could,
if
we
could
focus
on
that
and
then
with
the
understanding
that
we
need
to
to
look
at
the
at
the
history
of
that,
and
perhaps
we
can
provide
a
quick
summary
of
that
in
a
in
a
council
memo
at
a
future
time
with
respect
to
the
timeline
on
an
rfp
six
months
is,
is
really
what
you
need
on
an
rfp.
P
It
takes
between
getting
getting
a
contract
executed,
working
back
and
forth,
with
with
the
contractor,
getting
insurance
in
place
having
them
staff
up,
assuming
that
that
you're
going
to
have
a
new
contractor
and
new
new
new
folks
new
equipment
with
lead
times
on
equipment.
All
of
that
has
to
come
into
account
and
playing
playing
out
an
rfp
six
months
is
is
definitely
not
too
much
time
for
put
for
putting
something
in
place.
Thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
explain.
A
K
K
You
know
office
right
now
and
they
are
very
experts
in
contract
and
also
we
have
you
know
our
staff
is
very
experienced.
So
I
really
appreciate
we
can
move
this
forward
as
the
regularly
says
and
then
yes
review
the
process
make
sure
we
understand
it,
but
you
know
anything
ahead
of
time,
so
we
can
resolve
it
right
now.
I
would
really
appreciate
that,
because
you
know
personally,
I
just
don't
think
we
need
to
come
back
over
and
over
again
doing
these
things
things.
You
know.
K
A
H
E
C
Thank
you
mayor
and
vice
mayor.
I
just
you
know.
My
comment
would
be
that
to
push
something
to
that
close
of
a
date
just
gets
worrisome,
we
don't
know
what
might
happen
in
between
and
I
would
just
recommend
the
approval
we
can
come
back.
As
matt
said,
our
direct
public
works
director
with
a
follow-up
memos
and
any
other
information.
That's
necessary.
H
A
Two
things
vice
versa:
it
sounds
like
you
want
an
information
item
on
the
june
7th
meeting
with
regard
to
the
contracts
and
then
for
the
second
part
of
your
motion.
I'm
not
sure
we're
properly
noticed
to
to
direct
that,
but
I
think
we
could
potentially
give
this
as
a
reference
to
staff
to
bring
something
to
our
agenda
in
the
future
related
to
this.
But
let
me
let
me
check
in
with
chris.
I
Yes,
thank
you.
Thank
you,
mayor
yeah,
so,
with
respect
to
the
future
contracts
and
agreements,
I
agree
that
that
that
that's
not
agenda
for
action
today.
If
council
wishes
to
to
move
in
that
direction,
I
think
you
know
you
could
I
at
first.
I
guess
I
would
recommend
just
you
know
discussing
it
with
the
city
manager
and
then
possibly
you
know
putting
it
on
a
future
agenda.
If
you
think
that's
necessary.
A
Exactly
so
so
table
of
stuff
under
your
double
lines
for
perhaps
june
7th
into
the
regular
meeting,
and
then
I
I
realized
that
you're
asking
for
an
information
item
to
include
an
amended
staff
report.
I
guess,
as
part
of
the
information
item
so
so.
Your
motion
here
is
moving
the
recommended
action,
but
you
want
material
to
come
back
to
us
at
a
future
meeting,
and
so
let
me
check
in
with
our
city
attorney.
A
I
A
H
H
I
F
I
A
A
D
Yes,
I'd
like
to
second
it
and
make
a
comment
just
to
to
reiterate
the
fact
that
we
have
not
seen
exhibit
a.
I
went
online
to
city
records
today,
trying
to
find
exhibit
a
on
this
contract.
I
did
find
the
sixth
amendment
to
the
agreement.
Again,
I
couldn't
see
exhibit
a
in
there,
and
so
the
the
assistant
city
attorney
apparently
had
does
have
a
copy
of
that.
I
think.
D
Even
before
we
have
the
next
meeting,
we
should
probably
be
be
given
that
and
with
regards
to
city
records,
I'd
like
to
understand
why
it
was
unavailable
and
and
that's
it
and-
and
I
hope
that
when
this
comes
back
that
we
have
that
we
are
educated
on
on
how
the
process
moving
forward
should
should
progress,
because
we
see
these
multi-year
contracts
in
in
several
areas
and
where
the
dollar
amount
ends
up
being
over
what
the
purchasing
policy
is
showing.
So
thank
you.
A
E
A
A
Okay,
thanks
very
much
so
it's
about
6
46.
We
can
come
back
in
about
five
minutes
at
6
52
to
start
our
continued
study
session
on
the
proposed
budget.
That's
item
15.,
to
give
some
idea
of
time.
After
that
we
have
a
couple
of
hearings,
one
on
the
fee
schedule
updates
on
it
17
and
then
our
ordinances
and
action
items.
A
I
should
correct
myself
just
one
public
hearing
item
18
is
the
consideration
of
munich
amendments
for
the
economic
development
committee,
so
I
I
did
say
budget
will
allocate
about
an
hour,
so
I'm
hoping
to
wrap
that
up
by
8
o'clock
and
then
the
other
couple
of
items
I
don't
anticipate
that
we
should
be
able
to
you
know
have
to
spend
more
than
an
hour
each.
So
I
I'm
hoping
with
with
with
brief
breaks
as
needed.
If
we
go
over
an
hour
for
any
particular
item,
we
can
wrap
this
by
10..
A
There's
a
continued
study
session
now
this
is
item
15.
That
was
continued
from
our
regular
meeting
on
tuesday
may
17th
two
days
ago,
and
so
the
subject
is
the
initial
excuse,
initial
study
session
on
fiscal
year,
22-23
our
proposed
budget,
and
if
someone
wants
to
remind
me
where
we
left
this
off,
I
don't
have
a
specific
recollection
on.
I
think
it
was
the
vice
mayor
actually
so
vice
mayor
ciao,
you
did
want
to
leave
us
with
a
thought
before
we
concluded
the
item
on
tuesday
night.
A
If
you
don't
have
that
recollection
right
now,
then
I
will
go
ahead
and
just
open
it
up
for
further
discussion,
I'll,
remind
everyone
that
we
did
receive.
The
staff
report
we've
heard
from
our
public
and
at
this
point
it
really
is
a
matter
of
further
clarifications,
as
well
as
some
feedback
and
input
to
staff
as
they
go
and
proceed
with
the
next
step
of
preparing
our
budget
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year.
A
D
Okay,
thank
you
so
kind
of
continuing
on
with
the
the
with
regards
to
the
blackberry
farm
golf
course.
It
would
be
helpful
because
it's
sounding
as
though
that
the
maintenance
contract
is
remaining
within
the
parks
and
rec
department
and
that
some
of
the
maintenance
is
moving
to
public
works.
So
I
need
some
more
text
around.
What's
remaining
in
the
the
parks
and
rec
component
versus
what
is
moved,
what
has
moved
into
into
the
blackberry
farm
golf
maintenance,
so
the
budget
units
560-63616.
D
D
There
is
something:
let's
see
I
thought
yes,
there's
vehicle
internal
service
funds.
I
don't
quite
understand
this.
We
have
something
called
the
vehicle
and
equipment
replacement
fund
and
I
need
to
understand
if
that
has
anything
to
do
with
these
vehicle
purchases
or
not,
and
then
I'm
also
wondering
what
happens
when
you
sell
the
vehicles.
D
That
would
help
okay?
I
think
if
you
have
answers
for
those
particular
questions
or
if
you
just
want
to
collect
them
and
come
back
with
the
answers
to
that,
that
would
help
going
back
to
this
fund
balance
report
page
that
we
have.
I
made
some
comments
about
it,
not
matching
up
with
the
balances
we
were
shown
at
the
audit
committee
in
march,
so,
for
instance,
the
park
dedication
amount
in
our
in
our
budget
shows
that
the
projected
beginning
fund
balance
for
july
1st
2022
is
only
about
2.2
million
dollars.
D
The
march
balance
that
we
have
is
22
million
dollars,
so
I
think
these
might
need
to
be
adjusted
for
us
because
we're
being
shown
different
numbers
there.
I
I'd
also
like
staff
to
double
check
that
the
definitions
of
each
of
these
special
revenue
funds
are
are
included
in
the
subsequent
pages
because
it
seemed
like,
like
the
tree
fund,
for
instance,
I
I
couldn't
figure
out
what
the
tree
fund
is
is
for
and
also
the
capital
improvement
fund.
I
had
some
questions
about
that.
D
F
L
L
Any
sale
from
those
vehicles
would
be
deposited
into
that
fixed
asset
fund
on
pages
starting
on
page
81
of
the
budget
under
the
title
under
financial
policies
and
schedules
is
there's
a
fund
structure
which
gives
a
general
description
of
the
funds
and
what
they
can
be
used
for
and
in
some
cases
I
will
show
where
revenue
comes
from
related
to
those
funds.
However,
I
can
touch
on
specifically
the
the
capital
fund,
because
that
is
the
fund
that
helps
to
pay
for
capital
projects.
L
It
has
has
historically
been
primarily
funded
by
the
general
fund
and
for
those
reasons
those
dollars
aren't
as
restricted
as
they
might
otherwise
be
because
it
was
general
fund
money
that
went
into
the
capital
reserve
if
we
ever
needed
to.
We
could
pull
those
dollars
back
out,
but
we
do
transfer
money
over
actually
primarily
to
the
capital
reserve,
and
then
the
capital
reserve
will
transfer
dollars
into
either
the
capital
projects
fund
or
fund
420
or
transportation
or
the
park
fund,
depending
on
where
that
capital
project
lives.
L
L
I
think
the
capital
project
fund
we'll
have
to
come
back
and
double
check
on
the
actuals
for
the
prior
years.
Unless
thomas
has
some
additional
information
on
that-
and
I
did
want
to
point
out-
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to-
but
we
did
add
an
attachment
s
to
the
staff
report
and
that
included
any
questions
that
council
members
had
asked
either
part
of
our
our
proposed
budget
briefings
or
prior
to
the
study
session.
L
Those
are
the
responses,
so
that's
included
in
attachment
s,
and
then
there
should
have
been
a
desk
item
as
well,
where
we
tried
our
hardest
to
get
through.
Most
of
the
questions
that
were
asked
at
the
study
session
on
the
17th.
There
are
a
few
that
are
outstanding
there
and,
with
that
I'll
hand
it
over
to
thomas
to
cover
the
question
on
the
fund
balance,
discrepancies.
M
Thank
you,
honorable
man,
so
now
I'll
be
discussing
the
reason
for
the
difference
in
fund
balances
between
the
report
that
is
provided
to
the
audit
community
versus
what
is
presented
in
the
budget.
So
what
is
provided
to
the
audit
community
is
a
monthly
actual
fund
balance
report.
So
what
we
do
is
we
take
the
ending
fund
balance
from
june
30th
2021
and
then
we
add
in
all
the
actual
revenues
to
date,
and
then
we
subtract
all
the
actual
revenues
actual
expenditures
today.
M
So,
for
example,
the
march
22
fund
balance
would
be
june,
30th
2021,
plus
all
revenues
until
march
2022
and
then
subtract
all
expenditures
until
march
2020..
So
that
is
a
point
in
time
and
it's
a
new
to
date
actual.
But
what
is
presented
in
the
post-budget
document
is
a
year-end
projection.
So
that
is
where
we
expect
to
end
up
at
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
so
where
we
would
expect
to
be
in
june
2022,
and
so
that
is
the
difference
between
those
two
numbers.
A
D
D
If
I
understand
correctly
when
this,
when
the
vehicles
are
sold,
they
would
that
should
be
reflected
in
that
budget
item.
So
the
total
revenues
are
showing
as
as
zero
for
2020
actual
2021,
actual
and
and
even
for
the
proposed
budget.
Although
that
there
are
several
replacements
requested
and
when
I,
when
I
looked
at
some
of
the
earlier
budgets
regarding
the
the
fixed
assets
acquisitions,
I
was
seeing
these
same
kind
of
when
I
looked
back.
D
I
would
see
the
same
kind
of
dashes,
showing
no
information,
even
though
there
were
budgeted
amounts,
even
though
I
can
see
the
vehicles
were
purchased.
So
I
think
that
this
is
an
area
that
needs
some
attention
and
I,
I
want
to
say
an
audit
actually
to
see
what's
really
going
on
with
all
of
the
the
vehicle
replacements
and
and
turnover
so
this.
This
is
one
item
where
I
would
want
us
to
really
feel
very
comfortable
about
it
before
we
would
approve
this.
D
This
budget
amount,
especially
considering
the
amount
that's
been
spent
on
new
vehicles
and
and
that
there's
so
many
I
think,
there's
the
potential
that
maybe
the
accounting
has
that's
being
done
on
on
all
of
their
all
of
their
locations
is
there's
the
potential,
because
there's
so
many
that
we're
might
be
off
by
by
one
or
two
items.
At
this
point.
A
C
Thank
you
mayor.
My
comment
would
be
that
I'd
rather
not
hold
anything
up,
but
instead
is
include
this
type
of
discussion
with
our
internal
auditors
as
part
of
their
tasks
for
next
year,
and
then
they
can
go
through
and
review.
You
know
the
actual
counts,
the
locations.
You
know
they
would
actually
we'd
give
them
the
list,
and
then
they
physically
would
go
out
and
go.
C
Yes,
there's
one
and
two
and
three
and
four
all
the
way
through,
as
well
as
verifying
any
other
proceeds
that
may
have
come
in
so,
and
that's
just
to
keep
things
going.
I
would
think
it
would
be
better
to
have
the
internal
auditor
group
be
the
overseers
of
that
to
audit.
It
now
would
take
a
considerable
amount
of
time
to
hire
somebody
to
come
in
there
and
do
that.
A
A
First
of
all,
I
do
appreciate
the
finance
department's
turnaround
on
the
questions
and
the
points
that
we
raised
from
last
time
last
time
being
only
two
days
ago,
so
we
did
receive
a
good
document
with
some
of
our
questions
and
answers
to
those
questions
and
requests,
for
I
think
it
was
may
18th
and
that
didn't
make
its
way
into
today's
packet
right.
I
I
do
see
the
q
a
you
know
from
from
before,
but
it
doesn't
look
like
tuesday's
questions
and
comments
as
well
as
your
subsequent
wednesday
supplement
was
inside.
L
A
Best
item:
okay-
okay,
great
so
I
I
do
have
a
question
when
we
are
talking
about
the
various
items
on
the
work
plan
that
we
did
talk
about
on
tuesday
earlier
in
the
evening
did
any
of
those
modifications,
because
it
looks
like
the
work
plan.
As
far
as
certain
very
critical
items
right
have
has
gotten.
You
know
modified
a
bit
and
I'm
thinking
particularly
about
city
hall.
A
A
Okay,
so
I'm
looking
at
a
document
with
regard
to
some
of
the
public
works
items,
and
so
let
me
let
me
see
if
I
can
find
it
again
because
was
scrolling
through
and
I'll
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen.
If
I
we
managed
to
get
to
it.
If
not,
then
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
go
over
to
my
my
other
trunch
questions,
which
I
you
know
also
I'm
equally
appreciative
of
and
that
had
to
do
with
the
costs
that
were
allocated
to
city
council.
So
why
don't?
A
I
just
do
that
at
this
point,
and
so
that
is
part
of
the
follow-ups
on
council
and
commissions
expenditures.
That's
your!
I
think,
number
six,
thomas
on
the
the
document
that
he
sent
us,
and
so
I
apologize.
If
I
don't
quite
get
the
right
document
shared,
I
have
a
few
open.
So
I
think
this
is
right.
Council
and
commission
expenditures
not
an
accurate
reflection
of
salaries
and
benefits,
which
is
true,
I
mean
the
number
had
us.
You
know
hovering
around
a
million.
I
think
a
little
bit
more.
A
A
That
often
I
feel
like
I'm
doing
five
jobs
at
city
hall,
but
but
let's
kind
of
winnow
down
on
that
a
little
bit
so
this
table
here
you
have
city,
council,
five,
benefited
positions
and
the
total
compensation
and
benefits
144
270.,
I'm
not
to
put
too
fine
a
point
on
this,
but
this
is
not
each
of
us
right.
This
is
every
single
one
of
us
consolidated
a
hundred
and
forty
four
thousand
two
hundred
and
seventy
dollars
and
that's
compensation
plus
benefits.
Is
that
correct?
A
A
Okay,
great
so
so,
then,
when
you're
adding
these,
you
know
rather
relatively
larger
numbers
here,
when
you
say
city,
council,
support,
commissions,
committees
and
sister
city
support.
This
is
not
actually
compensation,
that's
going
to
any
of
the
commissioners
or
the
council
members
right.
These
are.
These:
are
employees
of
the
city
that
are
not
the
elected
or
appointed
officials
right.
A
Okay,
so
so
scrolling
back
up
here,
I
think
you
had
a
really
good
suggestion
here
right
here.
We
can
create
a
new
budget
program,
called
city
council
support
and
move
all
salary
and
benefits
associated
with
support
staff
to
the
new
program.
Then
the
city
council
budget
would
only
show
city
council's
costs.
I
would
say
you
know,
find
something
that
can
do
an
apple's
albums
comparison
of
of
actual.
A
You
know
by
department,
you
know
personnel
costs
and
that
would
be
you
know,
compensation
as
well
as
benefits,
and
it
says
the
overall
department
budget
will
remain
unchanged,
which
is
fine.
You
know
I
I
just
think
over
time,
and
now
this
will
be
my
eighth
budget
that
I've
I've
worked.
It
just
seems
like
a
really
grossly
disproportionate
representation.
A
A
A
As
to
you
know
how
we're
you
know.
Ultimately,
you
know
providing
really
a
fairly
significant
service
to
the
community.
I
I
just
don't
want
it
reflected
in
a
sense
that
to
make
it
look
like
this,
the
the
stuff
that
we
do
right
is
basically
imputed
to
us,
but
actually
it's
benefiting
other
people,
and
you
know
I,
of
course,
people
have
to
get
paid
for
what
they
do,
but
at
the
same
time
we
shouldn't
be
creating,
like
you
know,
from
a
financial
perspective.
A
A
But
what
I
didn't
see
was
the
residual
money
that
we
had
allocated
for
the
civic
center
parking
can
can
one
of
you
point
out
where
that
is
itemized,
and
you
know
I'll
try
to
scroll
through
this
document
to
define.
I
don't
think
I'm
sharing
it
in
my
way.
Am
I
still
sharing
a
document?
Just
you
are
not
mayor,
I'm
not!
Okay,
thanks
very
much.
Whoever
said
that.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
P
Packet
mayor,
matt,
morley,
director
of
public
works.
I
may
be
able
to
help
to
help
pretty
quickly
here
that
the
city
hall
parking
item,
the
civic
center
parking
item-
is
in
the
cip,
which
is
a
discussion
that
we'll
have
on
the
seventh.
This
is
the
operating
budget,
which
is
a
different
different
budget,
and
this
is
the
main
day-to-day
maintenance
of
city
hall.
P
Yeah
this
is
the
so
today
is
the
operating
budget,
which
is
does
not
include
the
cip
elements.
So
the
list
that
you're
looking
here
are
all
day-to-day
maintenance
items
broken
out
by
facility
right
and
the
the
the
other
bigger
project
that
you're
speaking
of
is
in
the
cip,
and
that
that's
some
something
that
we
have
coming
back
to
you
on
the
seventh.
So.
A
This
actually
would
not
so
what
I'm
referring
to
in
the
civic
center
parking.
The
thing
with
like
800,
somewhat
thousand
dollars
left
is,
is
not
reflected
here.
Is
that
what
you're
saying
that's
correct?
Okay?
Why
wouldn't
it
be
reflected
here?
Because
this
should
be
something
that
was
carried
over
and
not
completed
from
the
current
fiscal
year,
and
so
before?
We
kind
of
change
course
direction.
P
Yeah,
when
projects
are
in
the
when
they're
capital
improvement
projects
and
they're
in
that
program,
they
tend.
They
tend
to
stick
in
that
program
as
something
that
has
a
beginning
and
an
end
typically,
and
tends
to
have
a
sort
of
an
outcome
like
a
report
or
a
project
or
construction
or
something
the
day-to-day
maintenance
items
fall
in
here.
With
some
exceptions,
our
special
projects
are
exceptions,
but
the
day-to-day
maintenance,
which
is
what
we're
looking
at
here,
is
what
we
pay
for
our
air
conditioning
maintenance
and
for
our
electrical
maintenance
and
our
fire
system
maintenance.
A
P
Special
projects
are
handled
here,
mainly
because
they
can
be
done
by
our
operations
staff.
So
we
look
at.
We
look
at
projects
to
see
where
they're
most
efficiently
handled
and
when
they
can
be
handled
sort
of
in-house
with
our
operations
staff
we
we
have
a
a
big
savings
that
we
that
we
can
capture
there,
and-
and
so
we
we
try
to
to
do
that
where
we
can.
So
that's
why
you
would
see
a
list
of
special
projects.
Okay
got
it.
A
That
will
have
these
extra
30
to
50.
You
know
parking
spots
if
it's
not
here,
I
kind
of
can
see
where
the
wiggle
room
exists
and
basically
saying
oh,
it's
on
cip,
but
it's
not
here,
but
but
let
me
kind
of
clarify
this.
This
point
here
with
548
000
and
you
know
some
some
change
under
a
thousand
for
city
hall
maintenance.
What
are
you
anticipating
that
would
go
for
in
this
upcoming
fiscal
year,
starting
on
july,
1st.
A
So
you
see,
this
is
city
hall,
maintenance,
right,
548,
697,
it's
it's
not
an
insignificant
amount
of
money,
but
we're
also.
You
know
at
the
time
that
the
current
you
know,
city
hall,
conversation
if
you
will
has
been
happening
in
the
public
sphere
to
the
extent
it
has
been
happening.
You
know
we
see
pictures
of
you
know
beams
that
have
like
little
x's
on
them
and
you
know
little
arrows.
A
That
say:
oh
here's,
the
corroding
wood
and
you
know
I
just
kind
of
wonder
you
know
if
these
numbers
as
we're
looking
at
you
know
amount,
that's
budgeted
amounts,
that's
been
spent.
You
know
if
there's
not
too
much
of
a
delta,
you
know
what
can
we
be
expecting
if
we're
actually
budgeting?
You
know
over
half
a
million
dollars
to
this
between
july
1st
and
june
30th
of
next
year.
What
can
we
be
expecting,
for
example,
on
city
hall
maintenance
insofar
as
this
goes.
P
Yeah,
so
these
numbers
are
all
built
through
through
experience
to
what
the
expenditures
have
been
over
history,
and
we
use
past
experience
to
to
build
these
numbers
and
to
populate
these
these
spaces.
So
we
we
would
anticipate
that
we,
we
could
have
up
up
to
a
half
a
million
dollar
550
000
in
maintenance
items
at
city
hall,
based
on
what
we've
seen
in
past
years,
and
that's
how
we
would
build
build
the
budget
for
this.
So
these
are
realistic
expenditures
for
city
hall
or
for
the
library
right
below
it.
A
Facilities-
I
don't
disagree
with
you
at
all,
and
I
would
just
suggest
that
if
you
look
at
the
numbers
of
dollars
that
have
been
spent
on
city
hall
maintenance
up
at
this
point
in
the
current
fiscal
year,
it's
not
really
keeping
track
with
the
so-called
kind
of
average
over
time.
So
so
that
would
be
nice
to
kind
of
see
that
picked
up
question
about
the
city
hall
annex.
So
this
should
be
10
455,
torrey
avenue.
Is
that
correct?
That's
correct!
Okay!
What
are
we
basing
this
number
on
the
25
525.
P
A
Got
it
so
you
know
to
the
extent
that
we
have
say
a
work
plan,
item
or
capital
improvement
program
item
and
someone's
trying
to
look
at
our
budget
and
go.
You
know
it
seemed
like
in
the
cip,
we
had
some
allocation
of
significant
amounts
of
money
that
were
going
towards.
You
know
getting
these
projects
going.
A
Where
would
you
you
know
in
your
understanding
of
our
budget
I'll
move
this
over
to
finance?
You
know,
if
you
don't
have
this
kind
of
immediate.
You
know.
I
can't
even
call
a
recall
right
because
you
just
started,
but
where
would
you
go
in
our
budget
to
look
for
those
numbers?
You
know
those
allocations
of
of
dollars.
For
these
you
know
fairly
significant
projects
that
we're
undertaking.
P
I
think
it
would
be
typical
in
any
organization
for
there
to
be
the
day-to-day
maintenance
items
in
the
operating
budget
and
for
the
capital
budget
as
well,
and
so
whether
it's
a
government
organization
or
private
organization
you're
going
to
have
you're
going
to
have
those
two
separate
things
that
are
referenced
separately.
So,
if
you're
looking
for
the
operating
costs
for
a
facility,
you
would
look
in
this
in
the
operating
budget
you're.
A
Got
it
okay,
so
so
just
to
kind
of
clarify
this.
When
I
look
at
the
numbers
broken
down
by
department,
I
look
at
public
works.
You
know
I'm
not
making
any
kind
of
a
qualitative
statement
here,
but
that's
the
biggest
number
right,
the
biggest
number
in
our
city,
that
no
amount
of
money
allocated
toward
public
works.
A
If
I'm,
basically
thinking
to
myself,
you
know
I'm
a
member
of
the
public
or
council
and
I'm
trying
to
get
a
sense
of
you
know
how
much
money
is
being
spent
on
these
projects,
and
you
know
what
particular
projects,
I'm
not
really
so
much
looking
at
the
budget.
But
if
I'm
looking
at
the
budget
document
is,
is
what
you're
saying
the
most
granular
information
I
can
get
is
going
to
be.
When
I
look
at
that
big
number
allocated
to
the
entirety
of
the
public
works
department
or
is
there?
A
Is
there
some
kind
of
number
that
I
can
kind
of
drill
down
on
within
the
within
the
budget
document
itself?
That
gives
me
a
better
idea.
So
so
I
would
imagine
you
know
you
would
say
well,
there's
a
capital
improvement
projects.
Budget
right
for
public
works
reflected
in
the
budget
itself.
I
see
director
alfaro
nodding
your
head.
I
think
the
answer
is
yes,
but
you
know
perhaps
one
of
you
would
like
to
point
me
to
the
mayor.
P
C
We
would
have
a
cip
book
if
they
were,
including
everything
that
even
things
that
didn't
get
approved,
the
other
one
on
the
maintenance
piece
of
it.
You
don't
include
any
of
the
cip
portion
in
there,
because
that
includes
correct
me
from
ron
christina,
but
all
of
besides
just
the
actual
cleaning
supplies
tools.
Whatnot,
that's
all
of
the
salaries
in
there
too,
of
the
people
working
in,
say
the
city
hall
to
do
the
vacuuming
and
the
cleaning
and
the
repairing
of
pipes
and
plumbing,
and
all
of
that.
C
So
a
person
who
was
digging
around
saying.
I
really
want
to
see
something
in
public
works.
Then
they
would
go
to
the
cip
portion
of
the
budget
and
go
down
to
the
listing
of
all
those
projects
and
go.
Oh
there's
the
xyz
project
that
I
was
looking
for
and
it
would
have
a
you
know,
a
year-to-date
amount
that
was
spent.
If
it's
an
ongoing
project
too.
F
L
Yeah,
a
current,
the
current
budget
doesn't
speak
to
that,
because
we
don't
have
an
approved
list
of
cips,
we're
hoping
that
we
would
add
that
as
part
of
the
adopted
budget
and
then
normally
what
we
try
to
include
in
the
budget
book.
I
just
realized
we
had
it
in
21,
but
listed
in
this
year
is
we'll
usually
have
a
tab
that
says,
cip.
That
is
just.
L
Of
all
the
projects
that
have
been
approved
to
included
in
this
document
and
then
they're
also
usually
listed
in
the
general
fund
contribution
schedule.
It
won't
be
in
there
in
this
year's
budget
because
again
we
don't
have
which
of
those
projects
will
be
moving
forward.
But
it's
found
currently
in
the
current
proposed
budget
on
page
105..
L
So
if
you
look
at
last
year's
general
fund
contribution
a
schedule,
what
you'd
normally
find
is
under
either
special
revenue
or
capital
project
funds.
That
would
be
the
listing
of
the
project
and
it
would
denote
this
is
the
cip
so
as
a
way
to
kind
of
tie.
The
two
documents
together,
but
director
morley
and
city
manager,
troop,
were
correct
in
that
those
that
data
live
in
the
capital
budget
versus
the
operating
budget.
A
At
the
point
that
you're
going
to
make
it
part
of
the
actual
budget
draft,
I
mean
we're
basically
kind
of
late
in
the
game.
Right
I
mean
it
sounds
to
me.
Like
you
know,
staff's
preference
would
be
to
have
this
input
and
then
have
one
more
catch
up,
but
at
that
one
more
catch
up,
we
basically
are
looking
at
the
cips
as
they
exist
in
the
budget,
and
essentially
you
know
what
what
staff
would
think
of
as
final
format
but
we're
looking
at
it
in
first
impression
vis-a-vis
the
budget
itself.
A
L
No,
not
since
we
broke
a
part
of
the
cip
as
a
separate
study
sessions
in
the
budget
for
the
last
two
or
three
years
that
we've
done
that
breakout.
We
budget
have
waited
for
that
direction
from
council
on
which
cips
they
would
like
to
see
included,
and
then
what
we
do
as
part
of
the
adopted
budget
include
those
for
projects
to
be
approved
by
council
and.
A
I
I
know
what
I
heard
from
the
then
director
of
public
works
that
you
know
he
had
asked
for
a
million
dollars
a
little
bit
more
and
it
was
specifically
for
you
know
the
restriping
and
you
know
doing
some
of
the
angled
parking
along,
perhaps
mcclellan
as
well
as
torrey,
but
I
I've
watched
right.
I've.
I've
watched
10
months
past
now
we're
now
in
the
11th
and
we're
going
to
be
in
the
12th
month
in
about
12
days,
and
nothing
has
happened.
A
So
I'm
just
you
and
then
I
go
back
to
the
description
and
I
realize
that
if
you
interpret
it
a
certain
way,
it
could
kind
of
be
interpreted
as
like,
well
you're,
just
doing
kind
of
a
study
on
party.
But
no
that
was
never
the
intention
of
all.
We
actually
went
back
to
the
well
multiple
times
and
and
this
larger
amount
this
million
dollars
was
proposed.
A
So
that
the
actual
work
could
be
done
so
so
so
this
is
the
problem
that
I'm
trying
to
get
at
you
know
I
I
mean
I'm
trying
to
make
sure
that
what
we
reflect
in
our
understanding
of
our
discussions
actually
gets
pursued
during
the
course
of
the
year,
but
before
we.
If
you
want
to
comment
on
that
great,
but
before
we
get
that,
can
you
tell
me
in
this
document
that
I'm
scrolling
through
right
now
on
this
page
105.?
A
And
and
while
you're
doing
that
christina,
I,
I
guess
that's
kind
of
my
point
right.
I
mean
visa
and
again
I'll
repeat
the
point
vis-a-vis
the
budget
itself
when
we're
expected
to
make
an
approval
of
the
cip
portion
of
it,
we're
basically
looking
at
it
on
first
impression
right.
So
we're
going
through
this
exercise,
we're
going
through
this
study
session,
this
initial
study
session
on
the
budget.
A
You
know
what
happened
with
the
million
dollars
for
parking
at
the
civic
center
and
it
seems
to
me
maybe
there's
some
interpretive
give
with
regard
to
how
it
was
described,
and
now
it's
basically
turning
into
well
just
give
us
four
million
dollars
for
study
on
on
the
parking,
but
really
what
it
means
is.
You
know
we
want
to
design
you
a
three-story
parking
lot.
You
know
overlooking
the
reginard
creek,
you
know
neighborhood,
I
I
just
I.
I
feel
like
we
need
to
be
more
step
wise
and
we
need
to
be
more
transparent.
A
We
need
to
be
more
clear,
okay
and-
and
I'm
just
asking
for
partnership,
to
help
deliver
that
clarity,
I'm
not
trying
to
cast
aspersions,
I'm
just
trying
to
say
if
we
have
an
intention-
and
it
is
a
stated
intention-
let's
not
morph
it
from
one
thing:
a
million
dollars-
you
know
redoing
the
parking
within
the
civic
center,
let
ten
and
a
half
months
pass
and
then
you
know
end
up.
You
know
kind
of
out
of
the
blue,
seeing
something
you
know
really
quite
different,
so
so
so
that
that's
you
know
just
kind
of
super
structure.
A
You
know
high
level,
that's
what
I'm
trying
to
get
out
here.
How
do
we?
How
do
we
solve
this
issue?
And
thank
you
very
much.
You
know
it's
it's
nice
to
see
the
current
budget,
but
really
my
point
is
like
how
do
we
see
this
in
in
the
in
the
draft
budget
right?
Because
none
of
this
is
reflected
at
this
point.
L
Correct
and
so
the
way
you
would
see
it
in
the
draft
budget
is
when
we
bring
the
final
budget.
We
itemize
each
of
these
items
for
council
approval,
and
so
I
think
to
your
point,
to
see
it
all
together
in
one
book.
That
does
not
actually
happen
until
we
get
that
direction,
and
then
we
take
the
time
to
put
the
whole
budget
book
together
and
print
that
sometime
in
july.
L
And
then
one
more
thing,
if
I
think
thomas
may
have
found
in
our
appendix
b,
where
the
project
you
are
referring
to
is
listed,
and
so
appendix
b
is
a
new
one
that
we
added
back.
We
had
this
previously
back
in,
I
believe
13
14
or
14
15,
a
listing
of
all
the
different
budgets
by
their
different
accounts
that
are
included
in
them.
So
if
I
may
just
refer
to
thomas-
and
you
can
point
us
to
that
page-
that
we
might
go
see
that
project.
A
M
So
in
yes,
you
can
see
the
four-year
expenditures
at
the
account
level,
independence
b
and
also
in
appendix
a
I'll
just
note
that
we
have
a
cip
schedule,
but
because
this
is
a
proposed
budget,
where
we
don't
know
which
projects
will
be
approved,
that
schedule
is
essentially
blank.
It
only
includes
the
cfp
project
support
and
also
it
only
includes
cip
project
support
and
sorry
you
just
stopped
there.
F
A
I
think
you
might
be
asking
your
machine
to
do
too
many
things
right
now.
Sometimes
you're
kind
of
fading
in
and
out-
and
you
know
so
but
but
but
point
I
think
taken
I
mean
I
I
can
take
a
look
more
at
attachment
r.
So
let
me
go
to
let's
see
we
do
have
a
couple
of
people
from
staff
with
hands
raised.
So
let's
go
to
our
city
manager,
jim
and
then
we'll
go
to
the
director
of
public
works.
Matt,
jim.
C
C
You
know,
so
we
actually
have
three
different
areas
up
here,
but
the
operational
has
always
been
kept
separate,
so
council
here
there
wherever
would
approve
of
operational
budgets,
make
sure
that
what
we
have
today
can
on
go
tomorrow
and
then
the
capital
budget
is
to
look
at
what
other
revenues
and
other
funding
sources.
We
have
to
make
sure
that
we
can
continue
to
fund
that
whatever
the
projects
might
be
so
so
it's
looked
at
in
two
different
phases,
not
combining
them,
because
we
purposely
break
those
out
since
they
are
different.
A
Okay,
well,
I
I
appreciate
that
jim.
Let
me
just
let
me
just
clarify
something:
I
don't
have
an
issue
with
the
division
that
you're
describing
the
the
issue
I
have
is
with
the
descriptions
and
how
they
end
up,
morphing
and
being
reinterpreted
over
the
course
of
the
fiscal
year,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
is
there?
Is
there
a
fix
here
functionally
where
we
can?
A
You
know
kind
of
put
a
placeholder
for
for
the
capital
projects
inside
of
the
draft
budget
earlier
or
is
it
basically
when
we
come
back
and
we're
morphing
our
guidance
and
direction
on
on
the
capital
improvement
program?
You
know
with
the
the
budget,
you
know
the
final
budget.
We
just
have
to
be
extra.
You
know
careful
from
the
council
and
public's
perspective
of
how
these
descriptions
are
being
made.
You
know.
A
A
A
P
You
just
quickly
mayor,
there's
been
a
couple
items
in
with
respect
to
parking
that
we
have
completed
with
the
goal
of
alleviating
some
of
the
of
the
congestion
and
parking,
including
motorcycle
parking.
Some
carpool
parking
we're
working
on
so
there's
a
few.
Is
it
at
the
pace
that
you
like?
Maybe
not,
but
but
there
are
a
few
things
that
that
we're
working
on.
P
A
Yeah,
no,
it
could
be
a
bit
of
an
update
as
well.
That
sounds
like
a
great
idea
to
me
and
lamentably,
I
won't
be
part
of
that
discussion,
but
yeah.
I
appreciate
the
input
so
so
yeah
I
mean
and
as
to
the
point
of
some
of
the
money
having
been
spent
and
some
of
the
projects
haven't
been
done.
Yes,
absolutely.
I
agree
that
some
of
the
restriping
has
been
done,
such
as
motorcycle
parking.
You
know,
I
think,
particularly
on
along
rodriguez.
A
You
know
where
we're
yeah
I
used
to
park
up
to,
like
you
know,
maybe
three
months
ago
or
so
maybe
two
months,
and
then
one
of
those
stalls
was
you
know,
made
for
for
motorcycle
parking.
I
think
maybe
I
even
saw
a
motorcycle
there
once
so:
okay,
let's,
let's
go
back
to
councilmember
away
and
then
we'll
go
to
council
more
vice
mayor
challenge.
K
Thank
you
mayor
paul.
Actually,
I
want
to
thank
you
for
bringing
up
the
differences
of
cip
project
and
daily
maintenance.
As
I
said,
you
know
running
five
schools
in
district
office.
You
can
see
how
much
our
city
also
does
every
day
to
maintain
our
facilities.
I
mean
facilities,
don't
clean
itself,
trees,
don't
cut
itself,
leakings,
don't
fix
itself.
There
are
a
lot
of
things
that
that's
in
the
background
that
our
our
people
are
doing
that
serve
our
residents
and
serve
us.
K
I
actually
have
no
problem
with
that,
because
cost
allocation
shows
how
much
how
many
hours
we
we
work
on
things
and
how
many
hours,
the
staff
and
us
or
the
commissioners
work
on
it,
and
that
shows
our
diligence
that
our
time
spent
that
running
the
city
or
supporting
all
the
projects.
So
I
have
no
problem
with
cost
allocation.
I
feel
that
reflects
the
true
work.
We
do
the
true
time
we
spend,
and
so
that's
just
my
comment
for
the
two
subjects.
Thank
you.
Yeah.
G
Yeah,
I
didn't,
I
didn't
intend
to
jump
in
front
of
the
other
councilman,
but
okay
I'll
take
the
opportunity.
I
I
think
this
discussion
has
been.
You
know
really
helpful
if,
if
you
know
largely
largely
focused
on
questions
that,
given
the
the
written
information
in
the
budget
are
prompting
these
questions,
we're
not
city
staff
directly
that
are
working
generating
those
numbers
and
so
to
us.
G
Wow.
Is
this
meaning
that,
and
how
does
this
translate
to
that
as
far
as
I'm
concerned?
If
we're
likely
to
ask
these
questions,
our
community
would
also
be
asking
these
questions,
and
so
I
I
see
this
even
though
it's
taking
time,
I
see
this
as
being
really
pretty
fundamental
to
to
create
the
transparency
to
hopefully
continue
to
improve
the
the
published
budget
so
that
it's
more
readable
understandable
by
our
community.
G
That's
what
I
see
the
amount
of
time
that
he's
he's
put
in
and
then
when
we
have
a
council
budget
of
a
close
to
a
million
dollars,
it
might
appear
to
the
community
wow.
You
know
at
least
they're
being
compensated
when
in
fact
the
only
compensation
is
the
stipend
or
the
benefit
now
keep
in
mind
and
again.
This
is
mostly
for
our
residents
that
are
either
watching
tonight
or
will
see
you
know,
watch
the
video.
G
Those
benefits
are
not
not
vacation,
not
sick
time,
it's
strictly
insurance,
totally
different
than
our
day
jobs,
where
the
benefits
include
the
the
typical
benefits.
So
the
compensation
for
the
council
is
just
the
stipend
and
some
insurance
make
sure
that
we've
got
glasses
to
wear
and
our
teeth
aren't
giving
us
problems.
G
That
being
said,
I've
I've
kind
of
suggested
on
numerous
occasions
that
I
would
really
support
more
staff
support,
especially
for
the
mayor,
the
the
the
amount
of
time
that
we,
and
especially
the
mayor,
are
contributing
to
the
city
principally
for
resident
engagement,
so
that
the
community
knows
that
we
want
to
listen
to
them.
We
want
to
hear
from
them.
G
We
want
to
do
the
things
that
they
want
done
in
the
community,
but
how
much
time
we
have
as
as
part-time
councilman,
because
we
have
day
jobs,
we
really
need
to
get
the
most
effective
use
of
that
time
and
by
having
so
a
city
staff
purchase
person
take
more
of
the
logistical
stuff
mayor
my
hand.
You
know
my
take
my
hat
off
to
you.
The
amount
of
time
that
you
put
in
for
ribbon
cuttings
at
westport
for
ground
breakings
at
canyon
view
for
the
garbage
cleanup
off
of
280.
G
I
mean
the
list
goes
on
and
on
and
on
and-
and
I
truly
believe,
logi.
This
logistical
kind
of
things
could
be
done
by
city
staff
when
I
have
brought
it
up
with
our
previous
city
managers.
I've
been
told.
No,
that's
not
the
way
city
staff
works,
city
staff
does
the
city
stuff
and
the
city
council
does
this
city
council
stuff,
and
that
was
it
if
you
know
the
times
that
I've
had
the
community
roundtables,
that
was
without
city
staff,
help.
G
G
So
so
with
that
being
said,
I
I
don't
think
that's
the
topic
of
tonight,
but
the
mere
fact
that
I
think
we
need
very
good
transparency.
The
community
needs
to
know
how
the
how
the
city
staff
is
being
run,
how
the
city
council
is
being
run
and
all
this
is
for
them,
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that
doing
a
great
job
there
doing
a
great
job,
fellow
councilman,
and
doing
a
great
job
jim.
Thank
you
much.
F
A
Thank
you,
councilman
willie,
very
briefly,
before
I
go
to
councilman
moore
I
I
just
have
to
respond
to
you
know
some
points
that
you
made.
You
know,
look
we
all
did
this
willingly,
that's
fine!
You
know,
and
I
know
that
it's
a
you
know,
kind
of
a
political
hot
button
to
you
know
you
know,
try
to
try
to
get
an
increase
and
no
one's
looking
for
an
increase,
but
I
think
I
think
one
of
the
things
that
we
really
need
to
be
aware
of.
A
You
know-
and
this
is
an
example
that
I
think
is
really
quite
topical.
I
I
I'm
the
alternate
to
I'm
the
alternate
to
the
environmental
review.
Okay,
so
I'm
listening
in
on
the
environmental
review
community
vice
mayor
chow,
and
I
we
took
a
lot
of
time
to
help
rewrite
the
commissioners
and
committee's
handbook.
E
A
This
is
years
ago,
maybe
two
and
a
half
three
years
ago
now-
and
it
was
very
explicit-
the
committee
chair,
the
commission
chair-
sets
the
agenda
working
with
the
staff
leads
okay.
I
can't
count
how
many
times,
how
many
commissions
and
how
many
commissioners
I
talk
to
when
I
ask
them.
Why
was
your
meeting
cancelled
people
say?
I
don't
know.
I
have
no
idea
now.
A
If
we've
stated
policy
and
people
say
look,
you
know,
there's
a
dichotomy
between
policy
and
logistics
and
our
policies
not
being
followed
and
we're
having
you
know,
1.1
or,
however,
you
know
many
dollars
imputed
to
us,
but
the
vast
majority
of
which
is
staff
time.
Then
I
would
have
to
say
at
the
very
least,
follow
our
policy.
A
Okay,
you
know
the
chairs
of
our
commissions,
the
chairs
over
committees.
That's
not
a
joke.
You
know
this
isn't
silly
season
with
regard
to
trying
to
figure
out
like
who
really,
you
know,
has
the
authority
and
go
ahead.
You
know,
put
things
on
the
agenda
and
push
particular
policy
and
then
pretend
it's
operations.
A
You
know
I
and
I
don't
come
at
this
trying
to
talk
about.
You
know
how
little
I'm
paid
for
how
much
that
I
do.
I
come
at
this,
for
you
know
basically
saying
if
we're
going
to
set
up
a
system
like
this,
then
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we
need
to
be
accurate
with
with
regard
to
what
we're
doing
okay,
and
so
I
I
think
it
is.
It
is
very
important
for
us
to
go
ahead
and
say
the
budget
should
be
reflecting.
A
You
know
the
reality
of
our
allocations
here
and
so,
at
the
very
least
you
know
say
yeah.
I
agree
with
you.
You
know
say
that
the
benefit
is
for
insurance,
but
I
think
more
saliently.
You
know
looking
at
the
rules
and
how
these
are
reflected
in
dollars
and
cents.
I
I
just
see
you
know
something
of
you
know,
inaccuracies
and,
and
a
lack
of
you
know
kind
of
alignment
with
with
practices.
A
E
D
I
want
to
mention
something
just
to
to
perhaps
remind
people
that
we
do
have
a
joint
use
agreement
with
the
cupertino
union
school
district.
It
is
within
our
our
budget.
It
includes
hyde,
kennedy,
collins,
eaton
lincoln,
regnart,
faria,
stevens,
creek
and
garden
gate
elementary
schools,
and
it
is
the
school
site.
Maintenance
total
is
1.63
million
dollars.
D
But
my
main
point
is
that
we
are
providing
1.63
million
dollars
worth
of
benefits,
maintaining
these
fields
in
the
the
meeting
question
documents,
and
thank
you,
thomas
for
providing
this
this
afternoon.
There
is
a
item
11
the
account
totals
and
balances
where
the
city's
checking
accounts
were
mentioned
and
that
included
the
wells.
Fargo
fargo
operating
account
the
workers,
compensation
account,
also
wells
fargo,
the
wells,
fargo
payroll
account
and
the
wells
fargo
flexible
spending
employee
benefits
account.
D
So
I'm
wondering
what
the
the
kind
of
the
grand
total
is
and
then
for
going
to
the
fund
balance
report
on
page
109,
I
see
in
the
in
the
general
fund.
It's
essentially
we
have,
I
believe,
35.8
million
of
the
97
million
is
believe
the
words
unencumbered
at
this
point.
Someone
could
correct
me
on
that.
D
D
A
C
Or
answers?
Excuse
me.
Yes,
thank
you,
mayor
councilmember,
moore,
so
the
one
the
term
you
were
looking
for
is
an
unassigned
fund
balance,
meaning
we
don't
have
a
contract
that
needs
the
money
here.
We
don't
have
something
coming
up:
truly
savings
as
a
as
you
and
I
or
a
resident
would
have
in
their
bank
account,
but
I'm
going
to
go,
buy
a
new
car
or
something
so
that's
roughly,
and
I'm
going
to
look
to
thomas
and
christina
about
that.
That
was
that
37
million
dollars
in
unassigned
fund
balance.
So
it's
there
and
available.
M
For
cip,
we
have
approximately
a
little
under
14
million
funds
in
the
capital
reserve,
as
well
as
a
capital
improvement
program
fund,
and
you
were
correct
that
the
general
fund
on
the
side
was
37,
but
due
to
the
approval
of
the
third
quarter
budget
report
earlier
this
meeting.
That
would
include
that
by
approximately
9
million.
So
we're
looking
at
unassigned
fund
balance
projected
to
be
47
million.
At
the
end
of
this
fiscal
year
and.
M
D
Through
the
mayor
thomas,
can
you
tell
me
what
page
you're
referencing
or
if
you
are
referencing,
the
capital
improvement
fund,
number
fund
420
on
page
109,
because
on
that
page
the
projected
beginning
fund
balance
for
july
1st
2022
is
showing
30
million
30.8
million
for
capital
and
the
capital
improvement
fund.
So
maybe
there's
been
an
update
that
that
I
don't
have
access
to
yet.
M
So
if
I
can
answer
your
question
right
now,
the
13.9
million
is
listed
in
the
cip
staff
report,
and
that
is
what
we
estimate
to
have
available.
But
what
we
have
in
the
budget
document
is
proposed
fund
balance
at
the
end
of
the
year,
and
so
that
does
not
include
all
funds
that
are
incumbent
only
what
we
expect
to
spend
within
this
fiscal
year,
because
what
we
have
seen
historically
with
capital
improvement
project
projects
is
that
you
know
they
don't
spend
all
the
funds
in
the
first
year.
M
P
M
M
D
F
A
A
A
I
Yeah
yeah,
so
I
think
emotion
would
be
appropriate.
You
know.
My
understanding
of
the
purpose
of
this
meeting
is
for
allow
to
allow
council
to
direct
staff
to
make
changes
to
the
proposed
budget
before
a
final
budget
is
brought
back.
So
you
know
that
that
would
include
adding
additional
predict
positions,
for
example,
and
christina,
can
feel
free
to
weigh
in
if
there's
anything
she'd
like
to
add.
L
C
L
Perfect,
thank
you,
mayor
I'll,
try
to
be
expeditious
here
with
my
comments.
The
first
was
related
to
being
able
to
pay
for
everything.
If
we
used
that
46
million
you
actually
couldn't
use
the
full
46
part
of
it
is
tied
up
in
dollars.
We're
waiting
to
come
in
as
part
of
the
rise
contract
that
has
a
a
contract
where
we're
sharing
using
part
of
the
fees
collected
to
pay
for
a
contract
and
the
other
portion
of
the
fees
will
cover
administrative
costs.
L
So
we'd
want
to
leave
those
dollars
there
and,
although
we
do
have
an
economic
uncertainty
reserve
fully
depleting
that
unassigned
fund
balance
would
mean
we
anything
we
were
off
on
on
our
projections
or
anything
unexpected.
We
would
have
to
dip
into
that
committed
reserve
when
it
comes
to
the
capital
reserve.
L
The
reason
you're,
seeing
that
large
number
as
well,
is
because
that's
everything
that's
in
the
capital
reserve,
whether
it's
committed
assigned
they're,
actually
not
allowed
to
have
an
unassigned,
an
unassigned
fund
balance
in
the
capital
reserves
per
the
accounting
rules
that
govern
those
accounts.
Only
general
fund
is
allowed
to
have
that.
So
when
thomas
talks
about
we
don't
spend
everything
in
the
current
year,
we
carry
it
over
those.
L
In
addition,
I
want
to
make
sure
I'm
covering
all
my
points
here
so
as
I
go
in
with
that,
so
I
can't
remember
where
I
was
going
with
that.
But
oh
I
did
one
other
point
you
also
have
to
in
addition
to
that,
14
million
in
the
capital
project
fund
council
as
part
of
mid-year
added,
an
additional
10
million
dollars
in
the
general
fund
for
capital
improvement
projects.
L
So
my
recommendation,
if
you
wanted
to
go
over
that
14
million-
is
that
you
would
ask
us
to
allocate
money
from
that
committed
reserve,
which
we
need
permission
to
count
from
council
to
be
able
to
do.
And,
lastly,
when
we
add
the
let's
say
the
9.6
million
dollars
in
additional
funding,
that
includes
one
time
and
ongoing
costs
were
to
be
approved.
L
On
top
of
the
cip,
on
top
of
the
work
program,
if
all
of
that
gets
approved
and
all
of
a
sudden,
our
expenses
are
higher
than
the
revenues
we're
projecting,
we
would
still
be
balanced
because
the
one-time
costs
related
would
be
sufficient.
That
we'd
say
for
these
one-time
costs,
we're
using
these
one-time
dollars
and
unassigned
fund
balance
and
overall
on
an
ongoing
basis.
The
city's
budget
would
remain
balanced
and
I
think
that's
all
I
have
thank
you.
H
H
So,
first,
regarding
this
usd
field
of
maintenance
at
the
cosd
2x2
meeting,
they
said
that
their
board
is
considering.
They
hope
that
they
want
they
want
to
maintain
the
field.
The
reason
is,
the
city
spend
1.4
million
dollars
maintain
the
field,
but
we
also
collect
rental
fees
for
field
use
and
cusd
thinks
they
can
do
a
better
job
by
maintaining
and
still
collect
rent
also
to
make
a
profit,
so
they
actually
would
rather
that
they
can
maintain
the
field
they
hope
to
come
to
us
and
potentially
renegotiate
the
joint
field
agreement.
H
H
A
E
A
A
You
know
bar
none
as
a
council
member
as
an
elected
official
representing
the
voters.
If
you
ask
for
information,
you
should
be
able
to
get
it,
so
that's
even
codified,
it's
codified,
that
we
can
talk
to
city
personnel
and
that
that
target
morphs
over
time,
but
this
discussion
has
been
had
in
the
past
and
the
municipal
code
was
explicitly
changed
to
make
that
very
clear
and
so
do
not
make
part
of
your
motion
asking
for
information.
A
H
Okay,
great,
so
I
have
a
question
about
this.
Thank
you
for
bringing
this
up,
so
this
maintenance
cost.
So
I
see
that
the
city
hall,
maintenance
is
a
half
a
million
queen
land
center
is
over
half
a
million.
Senior
center
is
0.6
million
too,
and
community
hall
health
of
those
blackberry
from
so
it
does
that
include
the
poor,
and
so
that's
also
half
a
million,
and
I'm
just
wondering
is
this
a
typical
the
spending
we
have
every
year
or
I
know
this
is
pandemic
year,
but
I'm
assuming
the
maintenance
cost
is
the
same.
P
H
A
C
Thank
you
mayor
and
thomas.
If
I
speak
incorrectly,
please
correct
me:
no,
it
it'll
show
the
differences
of
what's
being
spent,
but
it
won't
have
we
fixed
two
plumbing
items
this
time
in
an
electrolyte
electrical
issue
and
something
else
it
doesn't.
It
doesn't
show
work
order,
type
level
that
that's
for
that's.
H
Not
what
I'm
looking
for
I'm
wondering
just
let's
say
I
want
to
find
out
over
the
past
past
five
years,
how
much
not
budgeted
how
much
we
spend
on
city
hall
maintenance.
What's
the
art?
What's
the
actual,
would
I
be
supposed
to
find
out
from
open
golf,
because
I
remember
I
saw
christina
using
open
golf.
It's
amazingly
con
convenient
but
complex.
I
don't
know
how
to
get
that,
but
is
that
available?
If
that's
available,
then
I'll
try
to
find
out
from
staff
how
to
get
that
information
I'll.
H
Wait
right
so
if
you
send
me
an
instruction
later
on
how
to
get
that
information,
that
would
be
really
helpful
and
then
my
question
would
be.
I
keep
hearing
that
it's
very
expensive
to
maintain
city
hall,
because
it's
aging
and
all
this
older
equipment,
but
then
I
don't
see
the
expense
to
maintain
city
hall
to
be
too
much
more.
I
thought
city
hall
is
a
lot
bigger
than
finland
center.
P
Thank
you.
I
I
actually
haven't
done
the
comparison
in
square
footage
or
exact
maintenance
cost
between
finland
and
and
city
hall.
But
again
these
are
and
they're
actual
expenses.
So
as
as
we
have
an
expense,
we
book
it
to
the
correct
facility,
and
so
these
are.
These
are
real-time
expected
costs
we'll
point
out
that
in
the
budget
book
the
expenses
by
year
are
are
identified,
so
you
have
them
there.
P
We
have
a
combination
of
in-house
maintenance
and
contract
maintenance,
so
we
evaluate
to
see
what
we
can
do
in-house
and
what
we
need
to
contract
for,
for
instance,
high
voltage
electrical
work
we
contract
for
that
some,
a
good
portion
of
the
of
the
mechanical
air
conditioning
systems
we
contract
for
that.
So
it
depends
on
the
particular
system
or
the
particular
item.
H
H
P
P
Oh
yeah,
thank
you
for
the
differentiation
there,
so
traffic
signal
maintenance
is
the
actual
maintenance
traffic
traffic
engineering
is
the
engineering
group
that
supports
that
supports
the
all
of
the
traffic
flow,
so
how
our
lanes
are
configured,
how
our
roadways
are
configured.
That
kind
of
a
thing.
H
P
H
E
H
So
I
could
not
figure
out
exactly
how
we
actually
spend
on
supporting
senior
center.
I
think,
on
the
reason
is:
las
gatos
has
a
senior
task
force.
They
did
a
comparison
between
different
cities,
and
I
was
surprised
at
that
time
that,
in
their
comparison,
cupertino
spent
about
1.5
million
dollars
according
to
their
table
with
12
fts,
and
but
maybe
they
got
the
information
from.
H
When
we
compare
with
another
city,
they
might
consider
the
budget
for
senior
center
as
different,
doesn't
include
charges
for
hr
and
I.t
support.
So
I
hope
to
get
some
clarity
on
a
breakdown
of
exactly
what
we
are
spending
for
a
senior
center.
Could
I
get
that
information
and
then
that
should
also
include
maintenance
costs.
So
we
have
a
good
picture
of
how
much
we
spend
on
senior
center.
P
So,
if
you're
looking
for
the
entire
programmatic
cost,
I'm
not
sure
how
the
how
that's
broken
out
for
for
the
parks
and
recreation
department,
but
for
the
operations
and
maintenance
side
on
page
499
of
the
budget
book
is
I'm
sorry,
city
hall
maintenance.
That's
a
good
example
nonetheless,
of
one
particular
facility.
It
lines
out
nicely
the
sort
of
the
program
and
then
on
subsequent
pages.
It
provides
you
with
the
expenditures
across
employees,
materials,
contract
services
and
it
identifies
staffing
so
that
we.
H
So
I'm
seeing,
for
example,
for
c
senior
center
on
page
347,
that's
under
the
parks
and
rec,
so
the
total
general
fund,
the
cost
is
9
26
000.
photo
expenditure.
Sorry,
total
expenditure
is
20,
1.3
million
dollars
about
that's
20,
20
actual
and
but
then
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
exactly
how
we
have.
What's
the
funding.
O
Ice
mayor,
if
I
may,
this
is
joanna
mcgreeney,
director
of
parks
and
recreation.
I
believe
we
provided
an
update
in
one
of
the
budget
documents
and
I'm
trying
to
go
through
them
now,
but
I
think
that
there
were
two
different
pages
that
the
staffing
was
pulled
out
of.
So
it's
a
little
bit
confusing,
but
we
tried
to
condense
that
information
in
the
update
too.
H
Right:
okay,
that's
fine!
I'll!
Look
that
later
on
so
yeah.
I
have
a
similar
question
for
sportscenter
too.
I
would,
I
hope,
to
break
it
down
also,
so
I
can
first
understand
it
better
and
then
the
last
question
is
about
oh,
not
last
last
question
and
then
I
have
one
request
to
add.
So
the
last
question
is
regarding
the
vehicles.
N
H
H
How
does
how
how
at
the
high
level?
How
does
that
work
and
then
also
on?
How
many
are
we?
I
I
think
we
are.
We
have
budgeted
the
600
000
for
new
vehicles
this
year.
Is
it
true
and
how
how
many
we
are
planning
to
buy
and
how
many
we
had
bought
the
past
few
years
and
when
we
buy
new
vehicles,
are
we
replacing
the
old
ones
if
we
replace
the
old
ones?
Where
do
they
go?
P
So
let
me
see
if
I
can
answer
a
couple
of
your
questions
vice
mayor,
so
the
the
vehicles
reverse
order,
since
that's
easier
for
me
to
remember-
are
sold
at
auction
when
they're
done
and
that's
for
our
purchasing
policy
on
how
we
can
dispose
of
vehicles
so
they're
they're.
Provided
that
way
we
we
do
have
sort
of
some
vehicles
that
that
are
special
use
vehicles.
P
For
instance,
we
have
for
our
storm
water
program,
a
vector
truck
that
doesn't
get
driven
every
day,
because
it's
it's
just
a
big
piece
of
equipment,
and
so
so
that's
a
piece
of
a
vehicle
piece
of
equipment
that
that
we
use
on
a
very
regular
basis.
But
but
an
employee
may
need
an
alternative
mode
of
transportation
for
their
day-to-day
streets
work.
P
P
Vehicles
and
three
three
or
four
pieces
of
equipment
this
year
in
our
replacement
program
to
the
to
the
tune
of
about
six
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Roughly,
we
do
have
a
very
detailed
vehicle
and
equipment
replacement
program,
and
that's
that's
also
in
our
policies,
so
that
we
are,
we
have
guidance
on
when
to
replace
them.
So
it's
it's
based
on
years
of
age
and
mileage,
so
there
are
specific
trigger
points
to
that.
So
we
keep
the
vehicles
until
they
trigger
that
mark.
P
We
actually
do
a
an
assessment
of
the
vehicle
at
that
point.
If
the
vehicles
are
in
good
condition
and
don't
have
maintenance
issues,
then
we
might
carry
on
with
them
for
a
while,
if
they're
saying
likewise,
if
they,
if
they
are
problem
vehicles,
they
might
get
recommended
by
the
mechanic
to
go
out
a
little
sooner.
But
nonetheless
it's
a
it's.
An
active
evaluation
that
occurs
on
all
of
our
vehicles.
H
So
I
think
we
have
a
gap
in
things
that
we
desperately
need,
which
is
expertise
in
planning
at
the
high
level
that
could
be
in
charge
of
what
we
we
see
today.
For
example,
we
need
someone
to
be
in
charge
of
planning,
especially
in
legislative
issues
and
in
charge
in
charge
of
outreach
to
the
community.
For
example,
when
we
need
someone
to
make
a
presentation
for
community
groups
for
the
focus
group
meeting
we
find
out,
there
is
no
one
who
could
do
it,
but
in
saratoga
their
community
development
director
does
it
and
right
now.
H
H
I
think
we
really
need
someone
on
at
a
high
level
who
can
take
charge
in
engaging
with
affordable
housing
developers
on
actively
to
deliver
low
income
and
middle
income
housing,
which
is
what
I
see
in
like
menlo
park
and
other
cities.
I
think
there
is
a
gap
there
that
we
really
really
need
to
feel.
So.
I
would
like
to
request
assist.
H
A
D
The
vehicles
until
we
have
more
information,
it
should
come
back
at
another
time
and
then
budget
unit
100-12-705
the
special
project
fuse
fellow
and
have
that
one
come
back
at
a
future
time
as
an
appropriation
request.
So
in
in
so
I
I
guess
I
would
like
to
to
have
a
friendly
amendment
to
the
the
vice
mayor's
an
initial
motion.
If
she
would
like
to
consider
what
I
would
like
to
add,
then
then
I
would
be
interested
in
seconding
it
at
that
point,
but.
D
A
L
Just
real
quick,
I
think
councilman
may
have
covered
it.
I
just
for
clarification
purposes
want
to
make
sure
it's
clear.
The
fuse
fellow
was
moved
to
a
limited
term
two-year
position
in
between
the
printing
of
the
proposed
budget,
and
when
we
did
the
presentation
on
tuesday-
and
I
think
the
way
she
said
it
now
is
whether
it's
a
special
project
or
a
position,
she
wouldn't
want
to
see
either
one
of
those
I
just
want
to
clarify
that.
That's
what
I'm
understanding.
L
D
So
that
the
answer
is
correct,
so
until
we've,
until
we've
gotten
and
codified
the
environmental
I
mean
the
economic
development
committee,
I
would
want
to
leave
that
in
and
then
depending
on
what
the
scope
is,
and
after
we've
had
that
discussion.
I
think
that
would
to
me
that
makes
more
sense
to
bring
it
back
at
that
time
and
and
get
the
appropriation
and
then
we
and
then
it's
all
kind
of
all
in
the
sunshine
we
all
know
what's
what's
happening.
I
think
that
makes
more
sense.
Thank
you.
Okay,.
J
Thank
you,
honorable
mayor
and
council
members.
I
just
want
to
clarify
so
that
you
all
are
aware.
If
the
part
limited
term
analyst
isn't
approved,
there
are
two
work
program
items
that
are
pending
additional
bandwidth,
which
are
the
visitor
center
and
youth
who
work
items.
So
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know
so
that
that
can
be
part
of
your
decision
making.
J
A
D
F
A
A
Although
I
guess
it's
not
technically
amended,
it
was
just
it's
just
brought
on
a
table.
You
asked
for
some
modification
prior
to
seconding
it
so
so
now
we
have
vice
versa
motion
on
the
table
and
you
have
seconded
it
council.
Remember:
let's
go
to
council
member
willie
before
we
go
back
to
vicente
ciao,
if
vice
march,
how
you
wanted
to
and
then
we'll
go
to
council
member
way
with
the
hand
raised
now,
councilmember
willing.
G
Yeah,
thank
you
mayor,
so
I
like
councilman
vice
mayor,
ciaos
and
councilman
moore's
motion
I
would
like
to
toss
out,
though
I
mean
I,
I
think
it's
great.
If
we're
gonna
make
progress
on
bmr,
if
we're
gonna
make
progress,
you
know
with
the
resident
engagement
and
developers
the
community
and
stuff
you
gotta
have
somebody
to
do
it.
The
the
concern
that
I
have,
though,
is
that
I'd
really
like
to
see
some
some
more
definitive
substance
on
on
how
to
get
from
point
a
to
point
b.
G
You
know
a
good
job
definition,
because
I
would
I
would
be
disappointed
if,
if
without
clear
understanding
of
what
that,
how
that
objective
is
going
to
be
met,
we
add
another
headcount
and
then,
at
the
end
of
the
year,
we're
not
really
seeing
you
know
accomplishments
that
that
would
represent.
You
know
another
fte.
G
F
H
A
E
I
H
Yeah
and
I
think
my
motion
in
my
motion-
I
did
use
this
language
because
the
rest
of
the
staff
to
consider
I
didn't
change
that
part,
and
but
this
part
I
was
not
able
to
write
it
down.
Google
froze
so
this
part
I
wrote
it
down.
It
might
not
be
exactly
the
same
as
I
said
it.
So
if
you
want
to
consider
this
an
amendment,
so
it's
exact.
A
If,
if
you'll
accept
a
friendly
amendment
to
your
motion,
then
I'll
encompass
your
edits
that
you
have
on
the
screen
right
now
and
I'll.
Ask
you
to
remove
the
word.
Consider
to
the
second
line
and
just
say
direct
staff
direct
the
staff
to
no
consider
and
then
write.
Add
in
the
first
tick
mark
underneath,
I
just
add
to
add
a
position
and
then
to
add
an
assistant
deputy
city
manager,
position.
A
N
A
H
A
D
D
F
A
I
agree,
I
think,
make
it
just
legislative
aid
and
vice
mayor
ciao
aide
is
aide
at
a
legislative,
a
position
to
support
the
city,
council
and
full-time
full-time
in
front
of
the
legislative
aid
full
title
dash
time.
Yes,
legislative
aid
get
rid
of
slash
government
affairs
position
just
at
a
full-time
legislative
aid
position
to
support
citizens.
H
Okay,
the
reason
I
added
the
government
affairs
because
I
find
that
each
agency
has
usually
a
government
relations
person
that
helps
the
agency
communicate
with
other
agencies.
So
this
legislative
ads,
I
think,
not
only-
will
help
us
probably
do
research
analyze
policy,
but
also
maybe
to
outreach
to
other
agencies
right.
A
H
H
A
D
I
don't
know
if
we
have
a
procurement
officer.
I
believe
I
believe
we
do
have
a
procurement
officer
being
added
to
to
staff
because
we've,
as
we
noted
in
an
earlier
item,
that
that's
an
area
that
could
use
some
assistance,
as
the
moss
adams
report
indicated
I'm
concerned,
I
would
like
to
have
some
well
before
we.
C
N
C
F
A
H
A
G
K
Okay,
I
I
think
councilmember
moore
said
some
of
her
concerns
and,
and
councilman
really
said.
Sometimes
I
I
have
an
issue
with
all
of
a
sudden,
adding
two
positions
without
vetting
it.
Why
we
need
it.
What's
the
job
description,
how
much
it's
going
to
cost,
for
example
the
deputy
superintendent
that
in
charge
of
strategic?
What
what
is
it
that
I
mean
all
of
a
sudden?
This
is
throwing
us
at
the
budget
session.
So
I
I
have
an
issue
with
that.
I
think.
K
Okay,
so
I'm
gonna
ask
staff
this
high-level
question:
we're
approving
a
budget.
That's
just
a
proposed
budget
according
to
currently,
if
I'm
wrong,
it
has,
according
to
the
past
budget,
that
the
staffs
proposing
a
budget
for
2020
to
2023
is
a
working
document
where
we
will
have
first
quarter
adjustment,
mid-year
adjustment,
third
quarter
adjustment,
so
it's
not
a
set
in
concrete
budget,
at
least
according
to
the
history
of
our
spending,
our
assets,
our
income,
that's
the
budget
is
putting
it's
a
proposed
budget,
so
it
is
flu.
It's
not
set
in
concrete.
Is
that
correct.
F
C
Okay,
well,
I
will
I'll
just
jump
in
and
thomas
you
can
follow
me
yeah.
So
what
what
we're
hoping
to
get
tonight
is
the
council
having
the
directions
saying
you
know
we
love
all
this.
We
don't
like
that.
Put
that
in
take
it
out.
So
then
we
can
come
back
on
the
seventh
with
what
would
hopefully
be
the
final
budget
and
as
councilmember
way
said.
Yes,
once
once
the
budget
is
adopted,
it's
already.
C
The
joke
is
through
the
finance
community
here
that
it's
already
out
of
date
because
things
change,
we
have
new
forecasts,
updates
everything.
Something
else
happens.
So
it
is
a
fluid.
It's
a
living
document
from
the
day
it
begins
to
the
june
date
of
june
30th,
so
changes
can
be
made
throughout
the
course
of
the
year.
You
know
if
the
cdtfa
comes
in
and
says
hey
everything's
great
or
maybe
they
go.
C
Oh,
we
found
issues
that
you
guys
get
another
10
million
dollars,
so
we
can
come
back
again
and
make
you
know,
changes
again
to
the
budget.
So
it
is
fluid.
It
is,
you
know,
very
fluid
or
dynamic,
and
this
is
just
the
the
starting
point.
The
control
point
of
where
we
want
to
go
during
the
year
and
then,
as
you
said,
councilmember
way,
we
have
the
different
updates
at
the
quarters.
C
K
Maybe
three
there's
no
stopping
us
to
adjust
it
added
on,
because
we
do
have
reserves
we
do
have
places.
We
can
move
around,
I'm
just
very
uncomfortable,
adding
these
two
positions
right
now,
without
even
backing
anything
I
mean
this
is
the
first
time
I
heard
about
these
two
jobs.
Okay,
so
I
I
have
an
issue
with
it
that
we
have
to.
You
know,
instruct
the
staff
to
put
it
into
the
budget
for
us
to
approve
it
on
june
7th.
So
that
is
my
main
issue,
I'm
not
objecting
to
it.
K
K
Six
million
not
six
hundred,
hopefully
six
hundred
million
dollars.
It's
not
a
lot
of
money
to
even
even
do
a
low-income
project.
If
we
spend
half
a
million
dollar
hire
someone
to
do
it,
it's
it's
probably
not
worth
it.
So
I
I
would
like
to
more
backing
on
this
on
these
two
job
descriptions
before
we
put
it
into
next
next
meeting
that
we
have
to
prove
it.
So
that
is
my
issue
not
objecting
to
the
suggestions.
I
hope
that
this
is
a
document
that
we
approve
it,
but
we
can
add
on
it.
K
That's
my
first
concern.
My
second
is.
I
would
like
to
ask
the
staff
to
take
the
council
member
moore's
suggestion.
Take
the
asset
out
of
the
budget.
What's
the
consequences
of
doing
that?
I
I
have
I
I
get
it.
We
get
so
many
vehicles,
and
maybe
it's,
but
it
doesn't
mean
there
is
a
mistake
in
there
I
mean
I
I
like
our
city,
manager's
position,
let
the
auditor
check
it
out
and
then
so
it
doesn't
mean
we
have
an
issue
with
it.
It
could
be
nothing
so
taking
that
out.
K
C
Yeah,
just
thank
you,
mayor
and
council
member
way
from,
I
guess
you
could
say
from
an
operational
standpoint
if
we
were
already
working
towards
you
know,
looking
for
contracts
or
bids
for
whatever
the
replacement
vehicles
would
be.
That
would
be
delayed
until
such
time
as
the
council
approved
our
ability
to
go
back
and
buy
those
vehicles
that
needed
purchasing.
P
Thank
you,
matt
morley,
director
of
public
works,
so
there
are
a
couple
of
vehicles
within
our
planned
replacement
that
that
sort
of
makes
sense.
It's
actually
in
the
equipment
side
of
it.
We
have
two
john
deere
tractors
that
are
old,
we'd
like
to
get
rid
of
of
the
two
and
get
one
in
replacement,
so
sort
of
a
consolidation,
so
that
sort
of
makes
sense
and
we're
we've
got
maintenance
costs
on
two
now.
So,
if
we
delay
it,
we
have
a
few
more
months
of
maintenance
costs
so
other
than
that.
P
You
know
we're
happy
to
bring
a
report
back
to
the
council
on
our
vehicle
replacement
program
and
what
that
looks
like
I.
I
think
we
can
probably
do
that
very
openly
through
through
staff
efforts
and
let
you
see
sort
of
open
book
what
we
have
where
they
are
who's
using
them.
What
their
utilization
is,
what
a
replacement
cycle?
That's
all
data
that
we
have
and
we
track
so
we're
happy
to
bring
that
back
to
the
council.
L
Thank
you
mary.
Yes,
so
what's
happening
in
fixed
status
and
why
you're
seeing
those
zeros
is
part
of
our
depreciation,
how
we
account
for
depreciation
of
the
fixed
assets,
so
we
do
so
on
a
straight-line
methodology
and
the
way
it
happens
is
it
comes
in
as
a
negative
as
a
negative
expense
to
that
budget.
L
So
just
the
point
of
clarification
there
and,
if
that's,
I
think,
council
member
more,
you
did
want
a
full
accounting.
So
we
could
show
you
that
and
show
you
where
the
depreciation
expense
hits
and
how
that
comes
back
into
the
fixed
asset
fund
and
and
we
should
be
able
to
do
that
before
the
service
as
well.
K
Oh,
actually,
you
probably
answered
my
last
question:
can
we
have
the
information
by
the
seventh?
Because
it
is
a
new
program?
We
have,
we
don't
understand
it
and
it
doesn't
mean
it
has
an
issue.
It
just
needs
to
be
explained
to
us.
So
we
understand
what
it
is.
So
I
would
like
to
have
that
explained
to
us
by
the
by
the
june,
because
we
we
can
all
benefit
from
it
too.
So,
but
I
I
really,
I
don't
believe
in
taking
something
out
of
the
budget
and
and
then
so
you
stop
a
project.
K
A
program,
stop
basically
the
city's
operation
in
certain
part
of
the
city
operation.
Because
again
I
see
this
as
a
high-level
proposed
budget
that
we
can
amend
it
adjust
it
have
questions
all
the
time.
So
I
would
hope
that
we
don't
pull
something
out
and
stop
something
dead
on
the
track
and
pending
on
something.
So
that
that's
my
comment.
Thank
you.
F
H
Okay,
so
so
my
understanding
from
jin
is
that
this
is
the
perfect
time
for
the
council
to
add
or
remove
items,
and
there
is
no
other
time
before
this,
because
budget
wasn't
on
the
agenda
and
employee
council
were
not
on
the
agenda,
and
this
is
the
initial
study
session.
Talking
about
the
price,
I
was
very
surprised
by
a
few
items
on
our
cip
plan,
the
staff
proposed
with
one
page
description.
H
We
are
supposed
to
allocate
four
million
dollars
to
design
a
city
hall
that
we
have
not
even
seen
a
conceptual
design
and
then
I
was
surprised
at
other
items
on
the
work
program
and
we
were
able
to
propose
items
and
then
after
we
propose,
then
we
will
come
back
with
more
detail
and
we
will
discuss.
We
eventually
approve.
H
This
is
the
only
time
we
can
add
any
position.
There
is
no
other
time.
So
if
I
don't
understand
the
question
about
vetting,
if
not
this
time,
when
we
we
are
may
19th,
perhaps
the
staff
should
have
brought
the
budget
to
the
council
earlier.
I
know
that
palo
alto
does
their
budget
a
lot
earlier
than
the
second
meeting
of
may.
H
Maybe
next
year
budget
could
come
to
the
council
earlier,
so
we
could
consider
adding
subtracting
earlier,
but
this
is
kind
of
like
the
cipn
study,
our
work
program,
but
staff
proposed
something
they
proposed,
something
we
didn't
know
about.
We
were
surprised,
we
asked
questions,
we
understand
them,
and
this
is
also
the
chance
for
the
council
to
propose
items.
Staff
can
ask
questions
and
understand
that
and
then
it
will
come
back
and
then
maybe
we
have
need
another
study
session.
If
there's
time
or
maybe
we
would
approve-
maybe
we
won't
approve
next
time.
So,
okay.
A
I'm
going
to
go
on
tour,
try
to
get
us
to
a
vote
by
nine
o'clock
here
because
we're
running
about
an
hour
behind
the
schedule
I'd
allocated
here,
so
we
do
have
two
more
items
after
this
we've
got
the
fee
schedule
update
as
well
as
economic
economic
development
committee.
So
let
me
let
me
go
on
to
councilmember
willie
and
then
hopefully
we
can
precipitate
a
vote
fairly
soon,
so
councilmember
wooley.
G
Consider
whether
or
not
a
second
full-time
employee
is
needed,
maybe
it's
only
a
half
time
or
maybe
some
some
time
that
exists
with
the
current
staff.
You
know
I
mean
we
really.
I
think
we
really
want
to
be
cautious.
Adding
head
count
is
easy
to
do.
Reducing
head
count
is
almost
impossible,
so
proceeding
with
very
caution.
I
I'm
I'm
a
little
bit
afraid
to
our
exuberance
might
over
overly
excite
the
increasing
the
head
counts
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
A
I
I
guess
I
guess
what
I'll
say
is
that
I
think
at
least
as
far
as
I'm
concerned,
this
is
not
in
a
vacuum
in
terms
of
thoughts
of
needing
support.
I
I'm
glad
to
hear
councilmember
willie
your
initial
thoughts
on
needing
some
assistance
to
the
council,
particularly
my
position,
but
I
I'm
I'm.
You
know
I
I
am
spread
thin.
I
I
truly,
I
mean
you
know.
A
If
you
look
at
the
the
work
that
I
did
to
get
caltrans
to
the
table
in
cupertino,
I
I
mean
I,
I
don't
exaggerate
that
probably
saved
us
half
a
million
dollars
because
we
would
have
had
to
do
a
matching
grant
fund
with
you
know
the
water
district,
and
I
saw
how
the
water
districts
grant
funding
was
spent
by
vta
because
we
went
across
the
street
and
we,
you
know,
saw
that
particular
program.
I
mean
I
I
this
is
not
an
exaggeration.
A
A
That
was,
you
know,
working
towards
what
what
council,
as
a
collective
whole,
is,
is
working
on
to
the
benefit
of
the
city.
So
that's
of
course,
just
one
example
of
what
we've
done
and
brought
forward
that.
I
think
just
isn't
really.
You
know
fully
understood
much
less.
You
know
you've
been
remotely
appreciated
by
by
the
public.
In
fact,
it's
really
more
the
opposite,
usually,
but
I'm
not
going
to
get
into
that.
I
mean
you
know
the
other
part
about
it.
A
A
A
With
regard
to
these
major,
you
know,
planning
type
of
projects
I
mean
jim's
background
was
in
hr
as
well
as
finance
and
our
assistant
city
manager's
background.
Although
it's
closer,
you
know,
I
think
is,
is
not
quite
squarely
within.
You
know
the
the
planning
and
development
portion
of
things,
although
I've
just
been
really
happy
with
my
hand,
helping
us
to
deliver
the
library
expansion
space,
and
you
know
I
I
know,
there's
a
lot
of
work
in
the
background
with
the
agendas
and
such.
A
But
you
know
when
I
look
at
the
housing
element
and
the
fact
that
we
really
need
to
do
some
sincere
outreach.
We
really
needed
to
you
know,
be
able
to
identify
these
various
types
of
you
know,
communications
that
we
need
to
have,
and
I
realized
that
you
know
one
of
the
things
that
that
I
heard
in
this
league
of
california
cities
conference.
A
That
four
of
us
went
to
last
week
was
that
communication
is
so
key
and-
and
I
discovered
that
to
be
the
case
as
I've
ramped
up
a
lot
of
full-time
and
beyond
type
of
activities.
In
addition,
you
know
to
running
a
business,
you
know
what
I
realize
is
that
that
communication
is
just
critically
important,
but
I
have
to
ask
myself:
why
am
I
the
one
running
the
the
coordination
of
that
right?
I
mean
in
a
lot
of
ways.
A
You
know
what
I
realized
is
that
you
know
when
it
comes
to
things
like
you
know
groundbreaking
for
westport,
groundbreaking
grading,
for
you
know,
canyon,
crossing
coordinating
something
for
beta
brothers.
You
know
talking,
you
know
getting
us
to
talk
to.
You
know
major
advocates,
I
mean.
That's,
that's
really!
That's
an
economic
development
function,
it's
it's
a
planning
function,
and
so
you
know
I
I
say
this
very
sincerely
without
you
know
cause
for
for
anything.
A
You
know
on
toward
and
and
without
mental
reservation.
We
need
help.
You
know
we
need
help.
You
know,
I
think
it
really
needs
to
be
directly
at
the
top,
and
so
when
I,
when
I
hear
this
independent,
you
know
kind
of
feedback.
That's
why
you
know.
I
thought
it
was
really
interesting
when
vice
mayor
chow
was
making
her
her
proposals.
A
A
But
but
of
course
you
know
it
went
towards
the
city
council,
which
I
think
is
much
more
appropriate
as
the
motion
on
the
table
right
now
described,
so
I
I
would
actually
fully
be
in
support
of
both
of
these
positions,
because
I
just
think
that
they're
that
needed-
and
I
have
expressed
you
know-
I've
talked
with
you-
know
our
staff
about
how
it
would
be
described
in
legislative
aid
seems
to
be.
You
know,
kind
of
an
acceptable
description.
You
know
I
look
at
you
know.
A
Cupertino
does
have
60
000
people,
that's
true.
San
jose
has
many
more
right,
but
then
they
have
10,
council
members
and
each
council.
You
know
member
has
a
staff
of
two.
I
believe.
Possibly
three.
We
have
none.
You
know
we,
we
literally
have
none.
You
know
we
have.
We
have
an
executive
assistant
that
we
share
with
the
city
manager.
Again,
if
you
look
at
our
budget,
if
you
look
at
the
budget
for
council
compensation
over
what
we
are
contributing
to
the
community,
you
know
it's,
it's
preposterous,
it's
under
minimum
wage
in
1980.
A
Okay,
so-
and
you
know
I
don't
know
about
the
rest
of
council,
but
this
is
insurance
that
I
don't
need
you
know
I
mean
I
have
an
alternative
source
of
insurance
and
over
time
it's
been
kind
of
categorized.
If
you
go
to
you
know,
I
think
transparent,
california
or
whatever
it
is.
You
know
one
of
the
years
it
makes
it
look
like
I
had
more.
You
know
insurance
than
rod,
sinks
and
steven
scharf,
but
in
fact
they're
actually
getting
compensated
for
that
insurance.
A
You
know
and
somehow
I
couldn't
get
like
so
it's
just
you
know,
I
I
I
think
it's
very
silly
to
talk
about
this
from
a
compensation-based
perspective,
because
you
know
for,
for
all
intents
and
purposes
we
don't
get
any.
But
what
we
do
get
is
the
pleasure
of
a
lot
of
you
know
railing
and
lambasting,
and
you
know
smear.
A
You
know
all
that
kind
of
good
stuff,
but
but
I
hope
that
you
know
it
doesn't
kind
of
you
know,
hit
us
internally
and,
and
we
actually
have
the
personnel
related
resources
to
deliver
what
we
deliver.
Frankly,
I
don't
know
how
we
deliver
as
a
council
of
what
we
do
and
yeah
I'll
just
I'll
just
say
it
one
time.
I
think
our
community
is
extremely
fortunate
to
have
the
five
of
us
there.
A
You
know
to
you
know,
provide
these
services,
but
I
I
do
worry,
you
know
and
from
a
very
you
know,
kind
of
I
yes
egocentric
perspective.
I
I
worry
about
what
happened
to
to
our
council
in
our
city
after
I
I
roll
off
and
that's
that's
eight
years
of
experience,
I'm
not
a
dumb
person,
I'm
well
educated
and
quite
intelligent.
A
I
mean
I've
dedicated
quite
a
bit
to
this,
so
I
think
if
we
were
to
you
know,
bring
in
council
aid-
and
I
had
you
know
four
months
of
overlap
say
I
I
think
that's
a
pretty
good
transition
and
then,
as
far
as
the
you
know,
the
other
position
goes
yeah.
I'm
supporting
the
motion.
I'm
talking
about
the
motion
on
the
table.
You
know
I
I'm
in
support,
I'm
in
support
of
adding
that
other
position
as
well.
A
That
wasn't
yours,
okay,
I
apologize.
I
I
thought
you
were
trying
to
cut
me
off,
because
I
was
getting
running
afoul
of
the
boundaries
or
something
but
okay
yeah.
Those
are
my
comments.
I
I'm
in
support
of
this
motion.
You
know
honestly,
look
you
know
I
graduated
from
harvard
law
in
2003.
You
know
my
billing
rate
should
be
in
the
four
figures
you
guys
are
getting
that
you
know
over
two
months.
A
Okay,
so
like
one
hour
of
my
time-
and
I
just
I-
I
don't
approach
it
with
ego,
but
I
think
it's
preposterous
frankly
that
we're
talking
about
this
in
terms
of
like
you
know
what
we
actually,
you
know,
bring
the
table,
and
you
know
what
we're
being
asked
to
you
know
consider
so
so
I
just
you
know
and
also
for
the
good
of
the
continuity
of
the
city.
I
think
it
just
makes
sense
and
also
with
regard
to
planning
the
planning
equation
is
so
critically
important.
A
I
mean
you
know
it
is
we
we
really
need
help.
I
I'm
just
I
I
I
can't
I
can't
say
it
anymore.
Clearly
I
mean
it's
just
an
area
that
we
can't.
Let
continue
the
way
it's
going,
because
I
I
just
personally
I'm
just
so
spread
so
thin.
Trying
to
you
know,
interconnect
these
communication
oriented.
You
know
aspects
and
I
think
if
we
had
someone
directly,
you
know
working
with
us,
then
it
just
becomes
logistically
much
easier
thanks.
D
D
I
am
the
the
chair
of
the
audit
committee,
so
I
do
look
at
these
things
very
seriously
and
when
I'm
looking
at
this
vehicle
vehicle
listing
which
they're
providing
showing
that
they
want
to
replace
vehicles
that
don't
actually
even
show
up
on
the
vehicle
list
that
we
were
given,
so
they
replaced
the
toyota
one
ton
sprayer
115,
000,
it's
not
on
the
list,
replace
the
forklift
60
000,
it's
not
on
the
list,
replace
the
john
deere
tractor,
I'm
not
on
the
list.
New
forklift
pallet
stacker,
not
on
the
list.
D
K
I
do
like
to
staff
to
answer
council
member
moore's
question
about
why
they're
not
showing
on
the
staff,
maybe
showing
someone
else.
I
want
to
say
why
I'm
I'm
going
to
vote.
No.
I
have
no
objection
on
the
positions
I
just
don't
like.
I
just
don't
think.
Like
vice
mayor
says
she
doesn't
like
surprises.
I
don't
like
surprises
either.
We
have
not
vetted
this
and
this
is
a
total
surprise.
We
don't
even
know
what
the
job
descriptions
what's
the
salary.
So
it's
not
that
object
to
the
positions
or
the
need
of
it.
K
L
K
Okay,
thank
you
christina.
So
I
just
want
to
explain
to
my
colleagues
why
I
don't
think
I
I'm
going
to
vote
no,
because
this
is
a
total
surprise
to
me.
It
hasn't
been
vetted.
I
do
believe
we
can
add
it
on.
First
quarter
have
more
job
descriptions
to
cost.
What
is
doing
what?
What
do
we
want
these
two
positions
to
do
and
that's
the
reason
and
second
reason
about
the
fixed
assets.
I
want
to
stop
to
answer
those
questions.
K
Of
course
remember
more,
but
I
want
to
emphasize
to
stop
something
of
broken
debt
in
right
away,
and
then
I
just
don't
think
it's
the
right
way
to
do
it,
and,
and
also
a
program
have
some
is
new
to
us
doesn't
mean
it
has
issues,
so
I
I
want
to
make
this
two
things
very
clear,
nothing
against
what
we're
doing
or
my
council
members
proposals.
I
just
don't
think
this
is
a
proper
way
to
to
do
it.
K
K
A
A
P
Thank
you,
yeah,
the
the
vehicle's
our
option
that
money
comes
back
in
as
the
director
of
administrative
services
talked
about
earlier
back
into
the
fund,
so
that
the
dollars
are
recaptured
and
and
the
finance
could
probably
tell
you
more
exactly
about
the
path
that
those
take
those
dollars
take.
But
it's
a
regenerative
regenerative
process
with
respect
to
the
vehicles
that
are
on
the
list.
On
page
548
of
the
budget
document,
there's
two
sections
there
there's
a
vehicle
replacement
and
an
equipment
replacement.
P
The
list
that
was
provided
was
with
a
full
list
of
all
of
our
vehicles.
Unfortunately,
sometimes
those
requests
come
through
as
when
their
vehicles
are
taken
very
specifically,
but
we
we
do
have
a
vehicle
list.
We
have
an
equipment
list,
they're
handled
differently,
because
they're
they're
logged
and
tracked
differently
equipment
is
logged
and
tracked
by
hours,
and
vehicles
are
typically
logged
and
tracked
by
by
miles.
So
it's
a
little
bit
different
measuring
and
so
there's
a
need
to
track
them
differently
through
our
systems.
So
we
can
certainly
provide
all
of
that.
P
A
E
A
L
F
F
A
I
think
these
are,
you
know,
points
to
bring
up,
and
you
know
good
to
know
about.
You
know
our
how
our
fleet
is
doing.
I
know
that
our
fleet
looks
really
good.
You
know,
and
director
morley
may
be,
with
your
you
know,
baseline
comparison,
you
can
give
us
some
insight
as
to
how
we
perform
you
know
these
would
be
other
cities
or
towns.
So
I
would
call
a
question,
but
I
do
have
two
hands
raised,
and
so
that
would
actually
defeat
the
call.
A
H
Okay,
so
the
reason
I
added
the
governing
relations
to
the
first
position
is
within
the
last
month
or
two
I
had
to
I
reached
out
to
valley
water,
government
relations
and
grant
department,
and
they
told
me
that
they
actually
offer
grant
to
ct
department,
and
I
asked
what
brands
they
provided
to
cupertino.
They
provided
the
friends
for
fall,
festival
and
the
holi
festival,
none
for
the
city.
We
could
have
applied
for
earth
festival,
we
didn't
know
and
then
for
the
bta
grant.
H
H
They
have
went
for
small
business
too,
and
I
also
reach
out
to
uc
governor
with
government
relations,
because
our
residents
are
concerned
about
college
admission
rate
to
uc
berkeley
and
I
reach
out
to
project
sentinel,
help
general
humanity,
silicon
valley,
housing
authority
to
talk
about
for
affordable
housing,
and
this
could
all
be
helped
with
a
legislative
ed
so
that
I
can
spend
less
time
connecting.
Okay.
E
H
When
the
staff
came
back
and
say
they
could
not
find
an
option
to
be
under
40
million
dollars,
that
council
decided
to
drop
the
new
city
hall
and
then
three
years
later
they
can't
come
back
and
do
started
a
city
hall
renovation
project
in
2018
and
then
somehow
they
that
they
didn't
make
progress
on
that.
So
this
count,
I
think,
in
the
very
very
beginning,
jim
pointed
out,
cupertino,
is
very
healthy.
Financially,
that's
not
the
extent.
F
A
G
Yeah,
thank
you.
Mayor
also
want
to
say,
very
eloquent,
very
descriptive
in
your
in
your
wording
of
the
type
of
help
and
and
how
how
it
would
help
the
community
and
that's
you
know
not
quite
the
way
that
it's
worded
in
vice
mayor
chow's
document,
but
the
fact
that
you
have
articulated
it
so
well,
yes,
bingo
were
this
council
is
so
engaged
so
wanting
to
get
the
community
informed
about
all
the
things
that
are
going
on,
whether
it's
westport
canyon
view
you
name
it
and
making
sure
there's
complete
transparency.
G
Everything
is
open
to
the
public,
the
books,
everything's
itemized,
so
I've,
let's,
let's
get
cupertino
into
2022
and
let's
not
be
running
like
we're
2018.,
and
that
means
we
need
the
people
to
to
help.
So
I
fully
support
what
we're
doing.
Thank
you
for
your
your
narrative
on
that.
It
greatly
helps.
F
K
A
Smartway,
you
know
personally,
you
know
I
if
this
passes,
I
I
hope
that
we
can
earn
your
vote.
You
know
before
the
budget
gets
passed
so
yeah
and
I
will
say
this
is
this-
is
quite
a
remarkable
achievement
and
moment
we're
right
about
to
conclude
the
the
budget
part
of
this,
and
you
know,
we've
done
the
work
plan
you
know
visited
upon
the
cip
and
now
there's
this
sort
of
trilogy
of
the
the
budget
kind
of
converging
together
with
it
councilman
warren.