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Coverage of the Cupertino City Council Teleconference Meeting, recorded on Tuesday, December 7, 2021. Part 1 of 3.
A
Good
evening
and
welcome
to
a
special
meeting
of
the
cupertino
city
council
today
is
december
7th
2021..
This
is
a
special
meeting
before
our
regularly
scheduled
meeting
of
today,
which
will
start
at
6
45.
It
is
now
5
15
pm
and
we
will
commence
with
our
special
meeting.
Madam
city
clerk,
would
you
please
conduct
the
roll
call
council.
A
A
Well,
thank
you
very
much,
madam
city
clerk,
we're
all
here
and
under
our
study
session
this
evening,
which
is
the
subject
matter
of
our
special
meeting.
We
have
two
items.
The
first
item
is
to
discuss
our
public
engagement
strategies,
and
this
item
comes
about,
because
our
council
is
interested
in
making
sure
that
we
understand
our
communication
based
mechanisms
with
the
public.
A
It
is
something
that
we
have
a
real
privilege
of
being
able
to
consider
because
from
a
fundamentals
based
perspective,
we
just
have
so
many
excellent
discussions
that
you
don't
see
with
regard
to
a
lot
of
the
breadth
of
you
know,
subject
matter
and
the
depth
of
the
detail
that
we
get
into,
but
a
lot
of
times.
A
Some
of
these
some
of
these
policies
aren't
really
fully
reflected
in
the
public
sphere,
so
on
another
side
of
it,
there's
also
the
ongoing
project
in
a
democratic
society
of
making
sure
that
we're
engaging
adequately
and
well
with
the
public.
We
do
do
a
good
job
of
that.
A
It's
always
a
tension
between
thoroughness,
of
that
engagement
and
efficiency
of
that
communication,
of
course,
and
so
we're
in
this
ongoing
process
to
try
to
make
sure
that
we're
refining
this
and
optimizing
our
ability
to
communicate
with
the
public
in
gathering
the
input
the
but
then
also
once
policy
decisions
are
are
made
and
as
they're
being
formulated.
A
How
do
we
best
reflect
that,
and
so
we're
very
pleased
to,
in
the
end
of
his
five
and
a
half
month,
stint,
have
our
interim
city
manager
greg
larson
to
be
able
to
kick
us
off
and
help
us
out
with
these
two
very
important
study
session
items
this
evening?
A
Greg
will
be
rolling
off
from
our
city
tomorrow
on
december
8th,
but
fortunately,
as
with
a
lot
of
things
that
he's
done
for
us
in
the
last
five
and
a
half
months,
he's
had
the
prescience
and
foresight
to
reserve
a
little
bit
of
time,
and
so,
as
jim
troop,
our
new
permanent
city
manager
begins
on
january
3rd.
He
greg
has
reserved
some
time
to
be
able
to
come
back
and
help
out
with
that
transition.
So
thank
you
very
much
greg
for
all
that.
A
Set
of
agendas
that
we
have
this
evening
and
so
without
any
further
further
ado
on
this
I'll,
kick
it
over
to
greg
to
provide
the
staff
report
on
this
item.
C
C
Deal
with
public
engagement
and
communications,
the
first
item
will
be
the
public
engagement
strategies
that,
whereas
I
discussed
with
council
on
july
20th
and
committed
to
bringing
back
for
a
broader
discussion
with
you
and
then
we'll
move
to
information
on
committees
and
commissions
that
the
council
has
requested.
Previously
we
have
about
80
minutes,
mr
mayor,
I'm
planning
each
of
these
we'll
take
roughly
40,
possibly
with
the
commissions,
taking
slightly
longer
given
the
volume
of
information,
but
I
will
try
to
be
fast
on
both
presentations.
A
Yeah,
that's
what
I
would
recommend
greg.
You
know
I
think,
with
regard
to
public
engagement
strategies.
You
know,
I
think
council
will
generally
agree.
You
know.
Overall,
you
know
we
do
a
fundamentally
good
job
and
it's
just
some
refinements.
I
you
know:
we've
all
looked
over
the
presentation,
it's
good.
It
does
a
really
good
job
in
summarizing.
A
What
we
do
well
and
I
think,
if
you
kind
of
split
it
30
50,
it's
probably
a
good
split
and
then
just
try
to
make
sure
that
council
has
a
few
minutes
each
to
provide
some
of
their
input
so
yeah,
and
I
think
that
we'll
probably
get
some
public
comment,
but
I'm
not
anticipating
you
know
an
overwhelming
of
a
voluminous
amount
in
terms
of
time.
So
just
to
keep
that
in
mind-
and
I
really
appreciate
your
efforts.
C
Thank
you,
and
just
given
your
compliment,
I
I
do
want
to
sell
out
to
katie
nomura
acting
deputy
city
manager
and
her
staff
team
that
helped
in
particular
on
the
public
engagement
strategies
which
included
brian
babcock,
public
information
officer,
tina
kapoor,
our
new
economic
development
manager
and,
I
believe,
even
andre
and
tom,
from
sustainability
and
emergency
management
assisted
some.
C
So
with
that,
I'm
going
to
share
my
screen
is
that
before
you
council,
okay,
so
brief
outline
what
we're
doing
currently
with
some
highlights
kind
of
the
way,
we're
framing
the
outreach
going
forward
with
some
possible
improvements
and
then
a
little
bit
of
discussion
on
special
events
and
city
image,
current
engagement
activity.
This
is
detailed
in
the
staff
report,
so
I
won't
provide.
C
I
won't
go
through
each
of
the
lines
on
this
slide,
but
just
highlight
a
couple
of
them
that
we
are
active
on
social
media.
We
are
getting
lots
of
hits
on
our
website
as
you'll
see
each
month
50
to
70
000..
Our
newsletter
goes
to
all
households
and
pre-covid
we're
hosting
50
special
events
annually
or
involved
with
50
special
events
annually.
C
I
did
want
to
highlight
just
some
of
the
things
the
departments
are
doing
that
I
think,
are
a
bit
unique
budget
and
bytes
is
our
brief.
Video
youtube
clips
that
help
explain
city
finances
to
lay
people,
our
parks
and
recreation
department
has
its
cupertino
cares,
for
example,
the
fourth
of
july
packages,
information
technology
even
did
a
public
presentation
on
online
security
and
public
works
has
been
doing
the
library
expansion
web
page
with
the
video
cam
and
video
tours
working
with
our
video
team.
C
We're
recommending
that
we
start
working
along
the
categories
that
other
jurisdiction
addictions
are
using,
which
is
inform,
consult
and
collaborate
with
inform,
is
getting
the
information
out.
Consulting
is
getting
input
back
and
collaborating
is
the
most
intense
working
directly
with
somewhere
all
of
the
public
to
actually
come
up
and
design.
The
solutions
together
and
the
art
then
becomes
tagging
which
outreach
efforts
for
which
projects
and
initiatives.
C
So
here's
some
examples
of
this
again.
These
slides
were
in
your
staff
report,
so
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
them
all
on
the
level
of
engagement
or
inform
the
providing
information.
This
is
really
good
for
existing
programs
and
non-controversial
items
and
getting
emergency
information
out
which
digital
technologies
are
helping.
C
And
so
I
think
those
are
all
examples.
The
council's
well
familiar
with
the
highest
level
of
engagement
is
collaborating
inviting
the
community
to
design
the
solution
and
to
be
part
of
the
path
forward.
This
is
for
the
highest
program.
Priority
programs
they'll
typically
be
items
drawn
from
the
city's
work
program
where
they're
they're
big
and
they
affect
a
large
part
of
the
city
or
many
people.
C
So
we
would
inform
and
consult
kind
of
everything
above
we
do,
but
we'd
also
look
at
a
series
of
workshops
or
charrettes
setting
up
a
task
force
or
focus
groups
or
a
committee
and
good
examples
of
this
are
the
climate
action
plan
which
is
already
at
this
level.
The
housing
element
which
will
be
at
this
level,
starting
on
thursday,
with
our
first
public
outreach,
the
lawrence
committee
park
design
and
the
more
memorial
park
master
plan
would
be
at
this
level
because
of
the
significance
of
those
projects.
C
So
we
think
that
outlines
kind
of
the
framework
we're
looking
at
for
the
future,
but
we
think
there's
also
other
improvements.
We
can
use
being
more
aggressive
with
new
text
messaging
outreach.
It's
one
part
of
the
digital
communications
framework,
we're
not
using
aggressively
and,
as
I
discussed
with
the
council
on
july,
20th
is
taking
the
block
leader
and
neighborhood
watch
program
that
you've
helped
increase
our
capacity
for
and
really
using
it
as
a
conduit
for
community
engagement,
not
beyond
just
emergency
preparedness
but
more
broadly,
and
then
we
also
want
to
just
start
providing
more
data.
C
What
are
our
outreach
reports
in
terms
of
web
page
hits
top
media
posts
and
getting
our
events
summary
public.
Here's
one
page
that
we
want
to
start
providing
on
a
more
regular
basis,
and
it's
just
for
the
month
of
september.
One
of
our
web
page
hits
been
so
the
garage
sale
now
you'd
expect
that
to
be
big
in
september,
because
that's
when
it
happens
well,
I
think
come
march.
C
C
C
We'd
also
want
to
look
at
scheduling
other
events
as
possible
to
maximize
public
participation
in
the
big
one
coming
up
in
the
first
quarter
of
2022
is
the
library
expansion
opening,
which
could
span
weekday
and
weekend
october
opportunities
over
several
weeks,
because
that's
going
to
be
such
a
new
icon
for
the
city
and
then
as
we
explore
these
expansions.
We'd
have
commerce
come
back
to
council
to
get
your
assessment
of.
C
Where
do
we
need
to
do
more
or
where
can
we
scale
back
and
what
the
resource
constraints
are
related
to
that
city
image
we've
put
in
with
engagement,
even
though
it
is
somewhat
different,
because,
based
on
feedback
from
council,
we
are
adopting
a
slightly
more
aggressive
strategy
than
we've
had
in
the
past,
where
tier
one
is
we're
being
conscious
about
trying
to
push
out
all
the
good
stories
about
the
city.
C
How
do
we
support
the
council
better
in
making
sure
they're
able
to
communicate
with
their
public,
knowing
that
there's
constraints
on
use
of
public
dollars
and
limitations
on
that,
but
making
sure
opinions
can
be
expressed
as
well
and
improving
the
city
brand?
We're
thinking
this
is
probably
probably
at
the
lower
end
of
that
range,
but
as
we
develop
the
scope
and
get
input
from
council
we'll
bring
back
the
refined
budget
allocation
request
at
that
time.
So
that
summarizes
the
staff
presentation.
A
Well
done
greg
a
very
good
presentation
and
before
we
bring
it
to
council
for
our
fellow
questions
and
comments,
let
me
see
if
there
are
any
members
of
the
public
that
would
like
to
speak
on
this
item,
and
so
I
do
see
one
hand
raised
at
this
point.
A
That's
jennifer
griffin
and
I
will
remind
our
members
of
the
public
that
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
wait
until
the
end
of
the
first
speaker
I'll,
ask
our
video
group
to
bring
that
to
two
minutes,
just
keeping
cognizant
of
the
time
and
the
fact
that
we
have
two
study
session
items,
and
so
our
first
and
only
speaker
so
far
on
this
item
is
jennifer.
A
Griffin
and
again,
members
of
the
public
you'll
have
until
jennifer
concludes
her
comments
to
raise
her
hand
and
if
your
hand
is
raised
by
then
you'll
get
called
on
for
these
public
comments.
Welcome
jennifer,.
D
Hi
mary
good
evening-
and
you
know
you
guys-
do
an
awesome
job
of
reaching
out
to
the
public.
I
am
so
glad
that
you
guys
send
out
mailers
in
the
mail.
I
mean
we
keep
them
in
one
place
and
I
go
through
there
periodically
and
there's
all
these
nice
different
colored
communications
from
the
city
and
I'm
you
know.
I
know
it's
expensive
to
do
that,
but
I
think
that
that
you
talk
about
getting
putting
your
money
where
your
mouth
is,
I
guess
or
getting
the
getting
the
most
benefit.
D
I
know
it's
expensive
to
mail
things,
but
I
really
really
think
that
that's
an
awesome
way
of
doing
it
and
I
I
think
that
even
the
postage
costs
a
lot
of
money.
You
are
getting
them
to
every
household
and
because
you
know
you
can
see
things
in
the
newspaper
or
not
see
them
in
the
newspaper,
I'm
not
on
next
door.
D
I
don't
use
twitter,
so
I
think
that
having
things
come
in
the
mail
are
a
really
really
good
way
of
doing
that
and
I'm
it's
always,
and
I
do
like
the
scene
and
just
hearing
things
that
are
even
over
the
news.
If
you
guys
can
do
more
news
blasts,
I
think
that
would
be
awesome
too.
Thank
you.
So
much.
A
Thank
you
so
much
jennifer
great
comments,
and
so
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
bring
this
back
to
council.
The
only
hand
I
see
raised
is
actually
our
interim
city
manager
larsons,
who
I'm
gonna
attribute
that
to
the
vim
and
vigor
of
winding
up
the
five
and
a
half
months
here,
but
greg.
If
you
wanted
to
make
a
comment
at
this
point,
I'm
happy
to
give
you
the
floor
before
heading
over
to
vice
merchant
and
you'll
need
to
unmute
yourself.
So
yeah.
C
C
I
was
an
early
adopter
next
door
only
lets
public
agencies
do
one-way
posts,
so
we
can't
see
the
other
post.
So
if
somebody
asks
a
question
on
nextdoor
that
says
why
can't
the
city
do
x,
we
have
no
clue.
That's
been
posted
unless
the
member
of
the
public,
the
council
or
others
send
us
the
question
we
respond
to
that
individual
and
they
post
the
answer
back.
So,
while
we're
being
very
aggressive
on
other
social
media,
we
can't
be
on
next
door.
So
thank
you,
mayor
for
letting
me
interject
that
okay.
A
Thanks
a
lot
greg,
and
so
now
we're
gonna
go
to
vice
mart
ciao
and
following
vice
mayor
ciao
is
council,
member
moore
just
a
quick
time
check
we're
at
5
33.
So,
let's,
let's
try
to
wrap
this
one
up
in
about
15
minutes
at
the
most.
So
I
I
guess
that
gives
us
an
even
three
minutes
or
so
each
so
vice
versa.
Take
it
away.
E
Okay,
so
next
door.
I
think
it's
easy.
Just
at
the
end
of
every
post
or
in
the
beginning
put
our
city
can
now
respond
on
next
door,
and
here
is
where
you
should
send
your
comments
to
to
get
answer,
and
then
it
has
text
messages.
Cusd
is
already
using
that
with
their
families,
and
then
I
realized
that
we
don't
have
a
contact
of
all
the
especially
younger,
newer
residents
with
children.
They
tend
not
to
attend
council
meetings,
but
they
are
on
the
list,
for
all
of
them
are
on
the
csd
list.
E
So
if
we
can
provide
a
quarterly
message
from
the
city
to
the
cusd
and
fuh
estimate
families
with
information
related
to
their
family
or
school,
I
think
that
would
be
awesome
and
I
think
I
would
like
us
to
involve
not
only
the
council
member
commissioners
in
public
engagement
and
and
also
not
just
commissioners,
that's
within
their
scope.
E
We
hope
that
one
commission
on
the
their
own
commission-
they
might
be
interested
in
the
roles
of
another
commission,
so
I
hope
that
we
engage
all
of
them
on
anything,
that's
related
to
the
issue
and
to
the
ect
and
invite
them
to
the
other
events,
and
because
they
are
our
eyes
and
ears
in
the
community
too,
and
as
for
the
pr-
and
I
think
it's
yeah-
a
reporter
asked
me:
how
come
the
other
people
think
we're
in
thai
housing?
Then
I
wonder
why?
E
The
way
you
approved
all
five
housing
element
project,
the
only
project
that
we
have
any
resistance
from
cupertino
residents
is
a
massive
office
project,
that's
mischaracterized
as
a
housing
project.
I
wonder
why,
so
we
do
need
a
better
communication
with
an
engagement
with
the
media
outlet,
not
only
mercury,
san
jose
spotlight,
I
heard
they
are
more
fair
and
and
and
other
reporters
to
have
that
engagement
and
for
the
business.
E
F
All
right,
thank
you,
and
I
want
to
thank
that
for
the
the
report.
I
think
it
was
great.
I
one
of
the
things
that
I've
noticed
is
that
when
we
get
dare
I
call
them
customer
complaints
but
resident
complaints
and
when
they
come
to
council
how
they
get
managed
and
directed
through.
I
think
I
think
that
the
council
could
do
some
improving
on
that
issue,
and
perhaps
we
need
some
community
feedback
on
that
particular
process
so
that
we
can
improve
it
and
again
advertise
the
311
app.
F
I
think
that
could
help
and
I'd
like
to
hear
how
that's
been
working
from
from
a
resident
standpoint
when,
when
we
have
a
complaint,
how
are
things
going,
and
I
I'd
like
to
hear
some
feedback
about
that?
We
did
have
the
public
safety
forum
a
couple
of
months
ago,
and
it
was.
It
went
really
really
well.
F
There
was
a
report
in
there
from
captain
uranic
and
it
talked
about
the
crime
statistics
and
he
went
over
year
over
year
for
each
type
of
crime
how
things
were
going,
and
it
was
a
really
great
powerpoint
presentation
and
some
of
the
information
was
actually
surprising
for
crime
rates
which
had
gone
down,
and
I
would
like
to
have
that
information
presented,
because
when
we
get
the
the
beat
report-
and
you
read
one
and
then
you
read
the
next
one-
it's
hard
to
tell
year
over
year,
you're
looking
at
all
these
different
areas
in
the
city,
it's
hard
to
tell
what's
going
on
with
crime,
and
I
know
that
that
is
a
big
concern
for
people.
A
G
Great
yeah
I'll
I'll
start
with
that.
I
I
believe
engagement
with
our
community
is
one
of
our
most
important
duties
here
at
the
city,
knowing
what
the
community
does
and
doesn't
want.
So
I
think
this.
This
study
session
is
good
to
remind
us
and
to
let
the
community
know
of
this
important
place
for
us
to
go
and
engage
next
a
little
bit
kind
of
like,
though,
what
the
vice
mayor
said
about
these
other
avenues
that
hold
potential.
G
Well,
yes,
we
have
the
good
fortune
to
be
in
the
area
in
a
community
with
so
many
people
that
are
tech
savvy.
These
people
are
on
their
computers,
email
texting.
G
I
think
we
should
be
trying
to
maximize
our
engagement
with
with
that
I
I
will
second
what
the
residents
said
about
the
mailers.
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
explore
all
avenues.
G
There
are
residents,
especially
elderly
ones,
that
are
not
necessarily
able
to
communicate
on
the
computer
and
the
postcards.
So
all
that
being
said,
I
I
would
like
to
say
I
think
we
need
to
expand
on
this
outreach.
When
I
have
previously
talked
with
our
pio
officer
brian,
he
says
that
at
least
he
had
told
me
that
when
I
asked
him
about
how
many,
how
many
email
addresses
is
he
sending
out
the
notifications
to
he
says
well,
roughly
1200.
G
A
G
And
I
I
think
in
a
community
of
64
000
residents,
high
tech
savvy,
I
think
we
should
be
way
higher
than
that
4x
5x
8x.
So
I
hope
we
will
spend
some
money
to
engage
some
consultants
to
help
us
get
more
of
our
community
involved
in
engaging
with
us.
So.
H
Thank
you
mayor
paul,
so
I
want
to
add
council
member
moore
said
about
311.
Actually
I
got
quite
a
few
good
feedbacks,
because
when
people
email
me,
I
said,
put
it
into
three
kubernetes
three
one
one
you'll
get
update,
you
get,
you
know
resolves
and,
and
it
does
happen,
our
staff
really
are
very
good
at
311.
H
So
I
hope
that
we
could
continue
to
advocate
for
residents
to
report
on
3-1-1
and
also
you
know
all
what
what
our
cities
are
doing
is
really
really
good
and
it's
reaching
out
to
a
lot
of
residents
and
whether
it's
email
or
mailers,
or
you
know,
flyers
for,
shows
and
webinars,
and
I'm
curious
of
you
know
if
we
want
to
spend
some
money.
We
have
very
talented
student
groups
either
in
our
high
school
or
at
the
end
of
college,
and
they
might
have
a
publishers,
group
or
you
know,
a
pi
pr
group.
H
A
Great,
thank
you
so
much
councilman
way
all
right.
Well,
this
has
been
an
issue
that
I've
been
I've
been
working
on
over
the
years,
and
I
you
know
you
know
I
want
to
be
really
sensitive
to
how
we
go
about
doing
this
right.
You
know,
first
of
all,
I
I
just
want
to
say
you
know
the
numbers
probably
between,
let's
put
it
at
90,
I
yeah.
I
think
I
think
we
get
90
percent
of
communications
right,
which
is
great.
You
know.
A
I
think
we
basically
in
a
really
where,
where
I
get
concerned,
is
the
fact
that
cupertino
does
so
many
things
thoroughly
and
does
so
many
things.
Well,
we're,
obviously
a
community
that
has
a
lot
of
thoughtful
people
that
are
extremely
meticulous
but
also
extremely
informed,
and
that
bears
itself
out
in
our
results
right
there,
it's
not
an
accident
that
we
end
up
having
the
lowest
rates
of
coved
in
a
very
thoughtful.
You
know
county
already.
It's
because
people
take
data,
they
they
they
granularize
it
and
they
reconstitute
it.
A
So
I'm
not
really
worried
about
the
fundamentals.
What
I'm
really
concerned
about,
though,
is
how
we
communicate
what
we're
doing
to
the
outside
world,
and
so
what
I'd
like
to
do
is
set
forth
some
suggestions,
and
this
comes
from
my
seven
years
of
experience
here
and
I
would
like
to
put
this
into
a
motion
format,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
share
my
screen
in
a
moment,
but
I
will
say
I
don't
think
we
need
to
spend
money
on
this.
I
think
this
is
basically
a
matter
of
policy
direction.
A
I
don't
like
how
this
was
couched
as
something
along
the
lines
of
of
of
of
image,
something
or
the
other.
This
is
not
about
image.
This
is
about
communication,
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
people
understand
this
fully.
You
know,
sometimes
I
think
money
does
need
to
be
spent.
I
don't
think
money
needs
to
be
spent
here.
I
think
we
need
to
focus
on
three
things
and
here's
what
I
would
suggest.
A
Okay,
so
first
have
a
press
plan
when
cupertino
makes
policy
oriented
decisions,
the
public
needs
to
be
notified.
Council
needs
to
be
informed
of
how
our
internal
approach
to
communicating
with
the
outside
world
is
organized,
create
a
press
plan.
I've
been
asking
for
this
for
years
and
communicate
this
plan
to
council
and
public.
It
should
include
informing
the
public
and
working
with
our
policy
makers
regarding
who
is
receiving
the
communications.
What
mechanisms
are
used
and
when
and
in
addition
to
that,
our
policy
makers
need
to
have
that
interface
with
the
media
on
an
ongoing
basis.
A
I've
never
once
been
provided
an
introduction,
or
you
know,
kind
of
connected
with
the
the
media,
reporters
and
agents
that
are
covering
cupertino
and
that
needs
to
happen.
Number
two
okay,
so
so
number
two
in
my
motion
here
is
encourage
and
foster
high
quality
of
writing.
Speaking
to
what
councilmember
way
just
said,
I
think
what
she's
saying
could
be
a
component,
and
I
thought
about
this-
I
thought
about
using
students,
but
we
need
to
focus
on
our
core
competencies
within
our
you
know
our
paid
staff.
A
Frankly,
when
approaching
our
more
critical
issues,
the
quality
of
writing
is
critical.
I
have
found
myself
over
the
years
rewriting
and
in
some
cases,
outright
writing
copy,
and
if
staff
is,
is
accurate
and
fair
about
it,
you
know
you
will
concede
that
that
is
absolutely
true.
I
suggest
that
we
recruit
permanent
staff
support
with
demonstrated
abilities
and
interest
in
evaluating
complex
issues
and
reflecting
policy-based
directions
in
a
written
medium.
If
we
don't
do
that,
find
a
way
to
get
that
that
core
competency
within
our
staff.
A
Now
you
know
whether
it's
a
matter
of
training
or
or
just
focusing
upon
that.
I
I
think
you
know
I
personally
I'm
more
than
happy
to
work.
You
know
to
try
to
get
us
there
in
my
remaining
year,
but
it's
something
that
we
really
need
to
focus
on.
Part
of
the
press
plan
should
be
to
provide
options
for
how
to
present
a
given
issue
through
press
releases
and
other
forms
of
communication.
So
basically
a
press
plan
would
be.
You
know
something
along
the
lines
of
okay.
A
If
you
have
a
very
complex
issue
and
there
are
multiple
ways
of
presented
to
the
public.
Here
are
your
options.
Okay-
and
here
are
drafts
of
how
you
could
couch
that,
but
the
problem
is
we're
not
given
a
single
draft
at
this
point,
and
so
we
need
to
think
about
how
we're
going
to
approach
these
issues.
Finally,
third
be
responsive
to
council
decisions
and
current
developments,
and-
and
this
is
where
I
think
we
get
hit
the
most-
and
this
is
precisely
what
happens
when
there's
a
rapidly
moving.
You
know
issue,
I
you
know.
A
I
found
this
in
2018
when
I
was
mayor
the
first
time
and
and
basically
you
know
and
I'm
not
again,
I'm
honestly
really
not
trying
to
cast
any
aspersions,
I'm
simply
trying
to
identify
one
thing
and
and
basically
say
look
there
is
there's
a
hole
here,
there's
a
deficiency.
We
need
to
work
on
this
particular
type
of
response
when
we
have
significant
decisions
that
are
being
made.
There's
often
a
public
response.
I
A
It
doesn't
matter
what
it
is.
It
doesn't
matter
whether
it
has
to
do
with
housing,
and
you
know
someone
you
know
from
you
know.
The
general
public
has
contacted
hcd
and
hcd
has
emailed
our
city
manager
and
there's
like
this
email
kind
of,
like
you,
know,
you're
kind
of
kind
of
kind
of,
like
you're
not
being
noticed
because
it
was
a
bit
nondescript.
A
I
mean
we
need
to
act.
We
need
to
act
quickly.
There
are
certain
situations
in
which
we
need
to
be
able
to
mobilize,
and
I
think
that
it's
it's
this
core
competency
of
interest
in
these
complex
issues,
paying
attention,
as
were
you
know,
with
the
public
and
with
the
various
you
know,
members
of
the
public,
formulating
these
top
topics
of
discussion,
but
ultimately
public
policy
as
well.
So
so
that's
my
motion.
I
would
like
to
give
staff
that
specific
direction
based
upon
you
know
what
I
was
sharing
a
moment
ago.
A
F
A
Okay
and
vice
mayor
chad
did
you
want
to
and
and
did
you
want
to
say
anything
about
samir
child
with
regard
to
that
direction,
request
for
direction,
staff.
E
This
item
sends
information
to
the
council
and
it's
not
asking
for
direction
from
the
council.
I
was
surprised
at
this
agenda
how
it's
worth
it.
Why
are
we
having
a
study
session
without
asking
for
direction.
A
We
can
give
direction,
even
though
it
is
a
study
session
item.
Mr
city
attorney,
can
you
please
provide
guidance
upon
that
point.
I
I
Say
that
we
will
be
discussing
the
public
public
engagement
strategies
which
is
concise,
but
an
accurate
description
of
what
is
being
discussed
and
what's
under
consideration.
E
I
E
Usually,
for
others
study
session,
the
recommended
action
is
seek
council
input
or
something
like
that.
But
for
most
of
these
items
the
recommendation
recommended
action
did
not
specify
that
so
maybe
it
might
be
misleading
to
the
public
that
we
are
not
giving
direction.
Today
we
are
just
receiving
information.
Yeah.
C
Okay,
mr
mayor,
if
I
may,
following
on
the
city
attorney's
comment,
I
think
your
staff
would
view
this
as
direction
from
the
council
through
adoption
of
your
motion,
to
pursue
those
three
avenues
as
additional
strategies
to
meet
the
communication
and
engagement
needs
of
the
city.
So
I
do
see
it
in
keeping
and
appropriate
direction
from
the
council.
A
Okay,
great,
so
no
did
I
appreciate
it,
mr
city
manager,
as
well
as
the
mr
city
attorney.
I
think
we're
good
with
having
this
motion
on
table
and
again
you
know
I
didn't
make
this
part
of
the
motion.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
spend
more
money.
You
know,
I
I
think
it's
really
just
a
matter
of
you
know
kind
of
focusing
on
particular
issues
setting
forth.
You
know
policy
recommendations
which
I
believe
is
what
we've
done
with
this
direction.
Council.
F
Yes,
I
would
so
we
do
have
some
pr
firms
in
case
there
is
something
that
gets
more
complicated
to
explain
in
the
future.
We
do
have
some
that
we
have
used
in
the
past
that
we
could
consult
with
in
the
future
if
we
need
to
my
only
concern,
so
I
am
aware
of
that
part.
My
only
concern
is
that
having
a
press
plan
is
that
you
could
have
council
members
who
disagree
on
a
particular
issue
and
the
press
plan
might
not
be
able
to
reflect
each
individual's
views
and
case
in
point.
F
I
was
also
asked
by
a
member
of
the
press
and
probably
the
same
one,
that
the
vice
mayor
is
talking
about
and
wanting
to
interview
me
quote
about
cupertino's
reputation
of
being
anti-housing
and
quote,
and
I
got
questions
like
how
do
you
think
the
city
can
change
its
reputation
of
being
anti-housing
and
many
housing
advocates
have
labeled
cupertino
as
nimbies
and
anti-housing?
What
are
you?
F
What
are
your
thoughts
on
this
reputation,
so
you
could
potentially
have
if
you're
trying
to
make
a
press
plan
for
around
those
types
of
questions,
you
could
potentially
end
up
with
different
answers
from
different
council
members,
depending
on
how
they
view
them.
What.
A
Do
you
want
to
do
with
that?
Okay?
Well,
let
me
let
me
elaborate
on
what
a
press
plan
means.
A
press
plan
doesn't
mean
you
go
and
you
you,
you
change
the
policy
direction
of
counsel.
A
press
plan
simply
means
that
when
these
types
of
situations
arise,
when
we
have
stated
policy
direction
and
established
policy
direction
from
council,
we
have
a
mechanism
out
there
that
will
be
responsive.
A
That
will
that
will
that
will
be
able
to
articulate
those
policy
positions
so
in
this
kind
of
situation,
okay,
you're,
referring
to
a
specific
example,
so
I
don't
want
to
delve
too
much
into
a
specific
example.
But
if
that
example
is
such
that
there
is
a
stated
policy
direction
that
that
has
been
decided
upon
by
council,
that
press
plan
includes
a
plan
for
responding
back,
that
that
press
plan
says
okay,
you
know
if
the
reporter
comes
in
what
we're
going
to
do.
You
know.
A
You
know
we're
going
to
go
to
the
city
manager
and
we're
going
to
go
to
the
mayor.
Part
of
the
press
plan
becomes,
you
know.
With
regard
to
communication
between
members
of
the
media
and
our
council.
When
a
council
member
gets
elected,
we
have
four
or
five
reporters
that
cover
cupertino.
Those
introductions
are
going
to
be
made,
I'm
at
the
end
of
my
seventh
year
on
council.
That
has
never
been
done.
A
So
that's
part,
that's
what
I
mean
by
the
press
plan
the
communication,
because
you
know
as
one
of
the
five
elected
public
representatives
of
cupertino,
I
need
to
know.
You
know
who
the
people
are,
that
are
having
those
mouthpieces
to
the
press.
You
know
with
the
rest
of
the
world
and-
and
I
think
that
you
know
a
press
plan
in
general
and
let
me
go
back
to
what
I
was
describing
as
the
press
plan
here.
Specifically.
So
there's
no
confusion.
A
The
public
needs
to
be
notified
when
cupertino
makes
policy
oriented
decisions
and
we
need
to
know
how
those
that
internal
approach
to
communicating
with
that
outside
world
is
organized.
So
it's
not
about
kind
of
getting
to
consensus.
It's
it's
when
we
already
have
consensus
where
we
already
made
that
decision,
how
does
that
get
communicated,
especially
in
those
times
when
we're
in
a
rapidly
moving
communicative?
You
know
situation
because
you
know
in
in
my
perspective,
a
lot
of
the
approach
has
basically
been
okay.
A
Let's
time
this
out,
the
press
cycle
will
die
down
in
a
certain
amount
of
time
and
therefore
we
won't
have
to
worry
about
it
as
much.
But
what
we
have
seen,
especially
as
pertains
to
some
of
these
issues,
is
that
it
doesn't
die
down
because
we're
a
bit
of
an
exemplar.
You
know
cupertino,
is
a
bit
of
an
exemplar.
We
we
we,
we
have.
A
You
know
at
various
times
the
most
well-funded
single
private
entity
in
the
world,
but
also
we
have
you
know
great
education
system
and
in
just
a
number
of
other
factors
that
are
going
for
us,
there's
nobody
that
is
more
diverse
and
yet
more
recently
we've
been
accused
of
being
extremely
segregated,
which
you
know.
I
think,
if
you
really
look
at
some
of
those
mechanics,
you
see
why
that
is
so
incredibly
preposterous,
and
so
for
me,
that's
a
matter
of
communicating.
A
You
know,
starting
from
several
years
ago,
just
be
completely
ignored
and
what
I
mean
is
that
if,
if,
if,
if
we're
being
approached
by
literally
six
to
a
dozen,
you
know
media
mechanisms,
if
I
forward
those
inquiries
to
our
staff,
we
should
have
some
follow-up.
We
should
have
a
plan
for
understanding
how
that
you
know
subsequently
gets
communicated.
I
can
pull
those
emails
from
several
years
ago.
You
know
in
this
situation
and
in
subsequent
situations
I
simply
did
not
get
a
single,
a
single
response.
A
Now
it's
a
little
bit
better
these
days,
but
we
still
don't
have
a
plan
for
how
we
go.
You
know
about
approaching
these
types
of
situations.
So
that's
what
I'm
requesting
and
that's
you
know
what
I've
been.
I
I
think
I've
been
reiterating
and
requesting
repeatedly
over
the
years,
but
I'm
really
glad
that
we
finally
have
a
motion
on
the
table
as
well
as
a
second
for
being
able
to.
You
know,
proceed
on
a
public
policy
basis
on
this.
E
Hi
so
yeah,
of
course,
I'm
supportive
of
your
proposal
and
I'd
like
to
point
out
that
if
we
have
an,
I
mean
communicating
with
the
media
a
lot
of
times.
It's
not
just
sending
your
message
to
them.
There
is
a
relationship
with
the
reporter
and
the
media.
That
relationship
needs
to
be
built
and
maintained,
and
therefore,
when
they
report
they
they
there
there
is
that
relationship.
E
It's
less
likely,
they'll
treat
you
more
ways
as
a
person
rather
than
trying
to
portray
things
incorrectly
and
they'll
have,
and
I
have
been
involved
with
some
campaigns
in
the
past.
This
is
how
we
build
that
we
have
specific
person
in
the
campaign
team
that
build
a
special
relationship
with
different
media
outlet.
Maybe
that's
something:
cupertino
needs
to
start
doing,
and
another
thing
is
this
item
actually
is
public
engagement
strategies.
E
I
am
a
little
surprised.
I
mean
this
is
a
really
well
prepared
staff
report,
but
that
it's
really
nice
to
see
that
we
summarize
everything.
Maybe
we
should
have
this
summary
every
year
to
reflect
on
how
we
are
doing
and
how
to
improve.
E
However,
there
is
this:
public
engagement
strategy
doesn't
have
public
in
it
so
which
part
of
the
public
that
we
are
not
reaching
right
now,
like
the
seniors
who
cannot
access
online
content
or
young
families
who
are
not
getting
involved.
So
I
wonder
going
forward,
maybe
not
today,
the
public
engagement
strategies
should
be
thinking
about.
How
do
I
engage
the
public,
who
are
usually
not
receiving
information,
so
we
can
improve
on
in
the
engagement
of
different,
less
engaged
groups
going
forward
great.
A
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much,
and
I
honestly
think
that
this
direction
from
the
motion
will
help
with
that
as
well.
It
will
help
to
communicate
a
lot
of
what's
going
on
with
regard
to,
what's
actually
being
decided
on
a
policy
level.
You
know
I
want
to.
I
want
to
just
clarify
vice
mayor
chow,
that
this
is
not
with
regard
to.
You
know
your
your
example
of
campaign.
This
is
not
advocacy.
A
This
is
a
matter
of
taking
a
policy
direction
that
has
been
made
that
has
been
decided
upon
by
you
know
our
collective
council
and
communicating
that
council
member
willie
before
and
let
me
go
to
interim
city
manager
larson,
since
I
did
put
him
into
the
comment
line
here.
Greg
you'll
have
to
unmute.
A
C
I
think
after
two
years,
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
did
want
to
comment
on
first
vice
mayor's
comment.
I
think
just
getting
the
metrics
forward
will
force
us
to
get
better
as
we
keep
tracking
those
metrics
and
we
start
looking
at
who
we
are
reaching
and
who
we
are
not
reaching,
and,
I
think,
that's
part
of
the
refinement.
I
actually
introduced
your
city
staff
team
to
another
city
that
I
think
is
further
along
the
path
of
an
aggressive
engagement
and
outreach
program
and
that's
what
they
started.
C
Working
on
last
year
was
the
more
sub-market
targeting
of
their
efforts.
So
I
think
that's
a
natural
outcome
and
in
terms
of
what
the
mayor
focused
I'll
go
back
to
where
he
started.
90
of
what
we're
doing
is
right.
I
think
that
staff
is
good
at
communicating
when
we
get
an
award.
You
know
for
having
the
best
pavement
system.
The
facts
are
what
the
staff
can
handle.
C
I
think
where
I
I
find
the
mayor's
motion
blending
well
with
the
strategy
that
staff
has
laid
out
was
particularly
that
third
tier
of
communications,
where
it's
the
policy
statement,
not
advocacy,
but
here's
what
the
city
council
has
decided
as
a
policy
position,
which
is
more
the
responsibility
of
the
council
and
in
particular,
why
largely
in
council
manager
forms
of
government.
The
mayor
is
made
the
spokesperson
of
the
council's
actions,
because
you
know
the
council's
actions
and
policy
direction
can
change
over
time.
A
Yeah,
thank
you
greg.
You
know
you're
articulate
and
thoughtful.
As
always,
I
want
to
push
back
on
one
item,
though
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying
with
regard
to
staff
in
general,
but
when
it
comes
to
our
communication
mechanism,
because
policy
does
effectuate
staff
action
and
so,
if
basically
our
communications
area
right,
so
you
know
we're
talking
about
hundreds
of
employees,
but
a
very
limited
subset
of
those
employees
need
to
be
able
to
you
know
or
just
outward
face
right
yourself
right
to
a
lesser
degree,
your
city
attorney
our
public
information
officer.
A
You
know
if
we
have
those,
you
know
key
people
that
are
outward
facing
and
naturally
are
going
to
be
the
points
of
contact.
Then
I
think
there
there's
there's
that
core
capability
of
being
able
to
take
that
some,
like
a
somewhat
more
complicated
and
complex
policy
direction
and
being
able
to
communicate
it
right.
So
if,
if
someone
is
saying
you
know,
cupertino's
negative
reputation
on
housing,
for
example,
you
know
the
policy
setting
is
such
that
we
don't
see
it
as
a
negative
reputation
on
housing
that
has
been
earned.
It
is.
A
It
is
a
negative
reputation
on
housing
that
has
been
communicated
right
and-
and
so
you
know
it's
it's
one
of
these
things
where
you
know
I
hear
what
you're
saying,
but
the
fact
is,
policy
is
not
made
in
a
vacuum.
Our
projects
are
not
made
in
a
vacuum.
You
know,
policy
is
actually
something
that
is
going
to
reflect
upon
the
entirety
of
the
government
agency.
You
know
ultimately,
and
the
spearhead
for
communication
of
that
must
lie
within
a
department
or
a
function.
That
is
labeled
communication.
A
I
mean
I.
I
think
that
that
just
that's
just
a
very
clear
and
and
obvious
fact,
so,
I'm
not
I'm
not
trying
to
I'm
not
trying
to
supplement
I'm
not
trying
to
replace
any
particular.
You
know
staff,
but
I
do
think
that
there
are
core
competencies
that
should
be
worked
upon,
because
when
I'm
working
on
a
a
press
release
for
a
critical
item,
I
need
a
partner
right
or
whoever
happens
to
be
mayor.
A
Well,
you
know,
needs
a
partner,
you
know,
and
if
the
city
manager,
with
the
300
different
things
that
that
person
is
juggling
at
any
given
point
in
time,
doesn't
have
that
ability.
It
ends
up
falling
upon
other
members
of
staff
right-
and
you
know
I
this,
and
this
is
not.
This
is
not
an
exaggeration.
This
is
not.
This
is
not
a
distortion.
There
have
been
times
in
the
last
several
years
right
where
the
city
manager
wasn't
available.
I
had
to
call
the
city
attorney,
you
know,
and
we
start
formulating
this
language
together.
A
So
I
you
know,
I'm
just
saying
that
whenever
there
is
a
need
there,
we
can't
just
kind
of
turn
away
and
say
you
know.
Ultimately,
that's
a
policy
thing,
because
policy
here
and
policy
everywhere
absolutely
informs
virtually
everything
that
we
do.
Ultimately,
so
you
know
when
it
comes
down
to
the
staff
section
that
is,
you
know
dealing
with
the
communication.
That
communication
is
not
simply,
you
know
amongst
ourselves
and
inward.
That
communication
is
also
outward
so
you
know
I
I
think
we
just
you
know
need
to
need
to
work
on.
A
A
I
focus
on
the
10
because
I
feel,
like
you
know
the
people
that
elected
me
into
office
want
me
to
focus
on
that
ten
percent
and
that's
a
policy
thing
and
if
I
need
to
defend
it,
I
will
defend
it
as
a
policy
thing,
but
but
I'm
not
unappreciative
of
everything
that
staff
does,
I
think,
they're
wonderful.
A
I
think
they've
helped
put
us
into
an
amazing
situation
as
a
jurisdiction
right,
but
at
the
same
time
there
are
refinements,
and
so
hopefully
that
can
be-
you
know,
understood
and
and
mutually
respected
council
member
willie,
you
have
your
hand
raised.
G
Yeah
boy:
that's
tough,
to
follow,
but
due
to
my
strong
belief
in
the
importance
of
community
engagement
and
that's
two-way
engagement,
I
don't
want
to
move
on
to
our
next
study
session
without
making
a
few
follow-up
comments.
You
know
that
this
policy
plan
that
you've
got
is
fantastic.
G
G
This
is
a
great
plan
and
I'll
definitely
say
you
are
incredibly
good
at
your
your
ideas
and
putting
them
in
a
way
that
we
can
all
clearly
understand
them
and
they
capture,
essentially
all
the
the
the
the
things
that
we
need
to
to
be
aware
of
on
these.
So
thank
you
so
much.
Let's
move
forward.
Okay,.
A
Great,
thank
you
councilman
willie.
I
don't
see
any
further
hands
raised
and
so,
madam
city
clerk,
would
you
please
conduct
a
roll
call
vote.
A
A
Thank
you
very
much
madison
clerk
and
thank
you
interim
city
manager,
larson.
I
think
you
had
mentioned
our
second
study
session
item,
but
now
that
we
are
upon
it,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
reiterate
that
study
session
item
number
two
is
information
on
commissions
and
committees
in
cupertino
and
other
cities.
A
You
know
another
fantastic
job
done,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
give
this
a
95,
because
you
know
not
just
by
and
reason
of
the
fact
that
we
have
so
many
commissions
companies,
but
we
do
such
an
effective
job
of
outreaching
to
the
community
as
well
as
interfacing
with
our
staff
liaisons
for
each
of
these,
but
of
course
there
are
refinements
that
can
always
be
made,
and
that
is
the
case
here.
A
C
Great
and
for
both
of
these
items,
both
the
prior
one
and
this
one
their
items,
the
council
asked
me
particular
to
focus
on
when
I
came
by
on
board
as
your
interim
city
manager.
So
I
kind
of
view
these
as
check
in
the
box,
so
to
speak,
of
requests.
The
council
made
of
me
for
the
commissions
and
committees
it
had
been
with
the
council
for
quite
a
while
looking
at
them.
C
It's
come
forward
at
various
times,
and
this
is
a
lot
to
cover
given
we're
running
late
and
I'm
assuming
the
council
is
going
to
want
to
stop
at
about
6
35
6
40,
for
a
brief
break
before
the
regular
council
meeting.
C
Mr
mayor,
we
could
continue
some
of
this
after
the
regular
agenda
tonight
if
we
are
able
to
get
done
before
your
adjournment
time,
in
particular,
I'm
going
to
race
through
to
the
interim
city
manager,
observations
which
are
some
of
the
items
you
council
asked
me
to
look
at,
but
let's
run
into
it.
C
In
particular.
What
the
community
council
has
asked
for
is
information
on
comparison
to
other
cities.
So
these
are
our
commissions,
and
this
was
all
provided
in
the
staff
report.
So
I'm
not
going
to
walk
through
each
of
them.
Attachment
c
gives
you
the
scope
of
each
commission
and
in
the
staff
report,
is
a
listing
of
the
commissions,
including
the
subcommittee
for
the
planning
commission.
C
C
That
committees
have
two
council
members
on
them
and
they
may
have
public,
but
they
have
at
least
two
council
members,
while
the
commissions
typically
do
not
what
the
council
has
asked
for
and
that
you've
been
waiting
to
have
brought
back
to.
You
is
the
comparison
of
cupertino
with
other
jurisdictions.
C
In
terms
of
the
number
of
commissions
and
committees
we
have,
we
do
provide
that
breakdown
just
on
commissions
we're
still
at
the
top
of
the
list
in
cupertino
we're
still
or
for
committees
we're
still
at
the
top
of
the
list.
So
that
was
information.
The
council
has
asked
to
have
come
back
and
I
will
point
out
that
for
the
comparisons
of
fte,
we've
excluded
fire
and
police
departments.
So
that's
why
some
of
the
other
cities
have
much
lower
staffing
than
you
would
otherwise
anticipate,
because
we
don't
have
police
and
fire
mountain
view.
C
Moving
on
commission
membership
requirements
vary
slightly
between
the
commissions
from
having
to
be
a
resident
to,
in
a
couple
of
cases
being
a
qualified
elector.
We
also
have
some
commissions
that
need
particularly
subject
matter
expertise,
so
a
question
for
council
would
be
changing
to
a
residency
requirement
for
consistency
on
all
of
our
commissions.
C
Then
we
have
the
series
of
commission
changes.
That
council
has
discussed.
There's
been
mixed
council
direction
on
whether
to
set
up
a
traffic
or
transportation
commission.
Your
staff
believes
the
bike.
Ped
commission
currently
considers
multiple
modes
of
transportation
and
is
viewing
it
holistically
moving
towards
the
complete
streets
framework.
C
So
we're
not
sure
it's
as
critical
to
set
up
a
separate
commission,
especially
given
the
workload
impacts,
but
maybe
to
recognize
the
broadened
role
of
the
bike
pad
with
complete
streets
to
get
the
broader
perspective
reflected
in
that
for
senior
services.
Six
of
the
13
cities
have
a
senior
commission.
C
This
council,
or
this
cupertino
council,
deserved
its
dissolved
its
senior
commission
in
2009
to
avoid
overlap
with
the
senior
advisory
council
and
then
in
2018.
It
was
reevaluated
establishing
it
and
decided
to
continue
the
partnership
with
the
sac
rather
than
setting
up
a
redundant
body
housing
some
interest
in
expanding
social
services
as
part
of
the
housing
commissions.
C
That
would
require
some
additional
staffing.
Only
one
other
commission
did.
We
find
has
a
blend
of
housing
and
human
services,
but
our
housing
commission
does
review
human
services
grant
funding
similar
to
sunnyvale,
so
the
county
provides
most
of
the
social
services.
As
you
know,
for
cupertino
it's
limited
to
our
cdbg
grant
funds
through
the
county.
C
Fine
arts
name
change.
This
name
change
is
a
per
the
work
program
planned
to
be
implemented
this
fiscal
year
per
the
request
of
counseling
the
commission
to
make
it
fine
arts
and
culture
to
recognize
their
broadened
scope
of
work
committee
charters.
We
have
two
committees
that
don't
have
adopted:
charters,
the
fiscal
strategic
plan
committee
in
the
economic
development
committee
for
the
fiscal
strategic
plan,
only
five
cities
in
the
county
have
it.
C
Our
fiscal
strategic
plan
committee
is
really
brought
into
action
in
spring
on
a
once
a
year
cycle,
but
we,
if
we
are
going
to
have
it,
we
should
recognize
it
and
formalize
it.
For
the
economic
development
committee,
two
cities
have
committees,
two
cities
have
commissions
and
your
new
economic
development
manager
on
the
staff
team
is
working
on
this
issue
to
bring
forward
for
completion
this
fiscal
year,
with
both
the
recommendation
and
options
for
council
consideration.
C
Scope
of
the
erc,
no
other
city
that
we've
surveyed
has
an
environmental
review
commissioning
committee,
and
I
was
quite
surprised
when
I
learned
about
it.
It
dates
back
for
quite
a
quite
a
while.
However,
it
was
presented
on
april
15th
to
look
at
some
session
possible
changes
to
the
erc
to
roll
the
duties
into
the
planning
commission
dissolving
the
erc.
The
way
it
is
to
expand
the
scope
to
act
in
an
advocacy
capacity
and
provide
education
and
engagement
or
changing
the
composition
of
the
erc
to
address
potential
conflict
issues.
C
C
Just
given
the
workload
of
your
staff,
the
size
of
our
staff,
the
aggressiveness
of
the
city's
work
program,
I
would
recommend
not
pursuing
other
commissions
and
committees
at
this
time,
but
if
you
do
want
to
do
so,
to
provide
that
as
direction
for
specific
commissions
to
look
at
as
part
of
your
work
program.
Development
next
spring,
with
your
new
city
manager.
C
First,
one
of
the
things
this
council
has
done
great
is
getting
the
commissions
involved
in
identifying
potential
work
program
items
and
then
the
council,
as
the
policy
makers
and
priority
centers
for
the
city,
determine
what,
from
the
commissions
as
well
as
from
council
members
in
the
community,
are
going
to
be
the
top
priorities
of
the
city
and
ranking
those
in
order.
That's
just
a
great
way
to
do
it,
because
otherwise
you
could
end
up
with
20
sets
of
priorities,
one
from
each
commission
committee
and
the
council,
which
would
be
impossible
for
your
staff
to
manage.
C
I
one
of
the
items
I'm
most
concerned
about
is
having
staff
members
of
committees,
particularly
for
the
erc,
because
having
the
city
manager,
planning,
director,
community
development,
director
planning
manager,
assistant
city
manager,
other
staff
on
that
committee.
We
create
potential
brown
act,
challenges
for
staff
talking
to
themselves
about
the
day-to-day
work
of
the
city.
A
Okay,
great,
I
really
appreciate
it
greg.
You
did
a
great
job
as
always,
and
let
me
go
to
our
member
of
the
public
at
this
point
with
her
hand
raised
before
we
bring
back
counsel
for
questions
and
comments
and
potentially
follow-up
direction.
A
I'll
reiterate
the
procedure
here
very
briefly
before
the
first
member
of
the
public
gets
done.
Speaking
you'll
need
to
have
your
hand
up.
You'll
have
two
minutes
to
speak,
and
our
member
of
the
public
with
her
hand
raised,
is
jennifer
griffin,
welcome,
jennifer.
D
Thank
you,
mayor
darcy
hi,
I'm
jennifer
griffin,
and
you
know
I've
been
going
to
the
cupertino
city
council
meetings,
planning,
commission
erc
drc,
since
we
annexed
in
2001.
I
think
I
first
showed
up
at
2003,
because
there
were
some
issues
and
at
this
point
I'm
I
would
be
pretty
protective
of
the
erc
and
the
drc.
D
D
I
think
that
it
provides-
and
I
think
it's
I
don't
want
it
rolled
into
the
planning
commission,
because
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
the
erc
needs
to
work
on
that
are
fast
potential
issues,
with
plumes
of
things
that
have
shown
up
around
the
city
that
their
potential
erc.
Now
we
have
had
some
interference
from
the
state
with
the
planning
laws,
so
the
housing
laws.
So
I'm
not
until
we
have
this
housing
law
dilemma,
we
see
them
trying
to
take
over
stuff
from
the
erc.
D
So
the
other
thing
is
why
don't
we
have
a
historical
commission
attached
to
the
city?
I
sent
you
all
an
email
about
the
fight
to
save
the
graves
house,
which
is
now
the
apartment.
Complex
fell
through
it's
sitting
out
there
dilapidated
the
roof
is
going
to
you
know,
go
under.
We
need
to
have
san
jose.
Has
a
history
department
that
is
attached
firmly
into.
D
J
It
was,
I
remember
it
being
having
far
more
me,
maybe
I'm
wrong,
but
I
remember
having
more
meetings
and
taking
care
of
some
things
that
were
appropriate
in
the
past
and
it,
but
in
recent
past-
and
I
don't
know
last
few
years-
there
hasn't
been
a
whole
lot
of
drc
meetings
and
I
often
wonder
where
these
things
go
and
when
I
see
approved
projects
I
go
what
well,
I
see
them
because
they're
being
built
not
because
I
knew
about
them,
and
these
are
mostly
residential,
smaller
projects
in
neighborhoods-
and
I
look-
I
go
wait
a
minute.
J
This
should
not
have
be
happening
this.
It
does
not
mark
all
the
boxes
on
what
you're
supposed
to
do
when
you
design
a
home
based
on
city's
policy-
and
I
asked
myself-
did
it
go
to
drc?
How
did
I
miss
it?
No
because
they
keep
canceling
meetings,
so
they
haven't
had
it,
and
my
fear
is
that
a
lot
of
things
that
should
go
to
drc
or
somewhere
are
being
handled
as
minor
modifications
by
the
director,
and
it
really
worries
me
and
now
that
I've
learned
more.
I
think
that's
been
going
on
for
quite
some
time.
J
A
Great,
thank
you
lisa
and
let
me
let
me
just
go
straight
to
you
know
last
speaker's
comments.
You
know
I
notice
on
your
presentation
greg
in
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
slide
number
12,
but
it
has
12
at
the
top
of
it
impact
of
adding
commissions.
A
The
the
design
review
committee
is
not
actually
listed
on
the
hours
spent
annually.
Is
that
basically,
because
no
time
was
spent
last
year
or
on
design
review.
C
A
Okay,
so
it's
considered,
oh,
I
see
it.
I
see
it.
I
see
it
so.
40
hours
on
design
review
got
it
and
when
calculating
out
these
hours,
was
that
done
as
an
average
over
a
couple
of
years
or
how
is
that
done
in
terms
of
figuring
out.
K
Deputy
city
manager,
they
each
department
kind
of
reviewed,
how
much
time
I
think
they
looked
a
little
bit
at
you
know
what
it.
What
was
it
pre-covered
and
now
during
covert
and
tried
to
come
up
with
an
estimate
of
how
many
hours.
A
Yeah
I
mean
I
actually
think
these
numbers
look
pretty
reasonable.
You
know
I've
seen
some
estimates
in
the
past.
That
prospectively
were
quite
generous,
but
but
I
think
these
are
probably
actual
hours
and
I
have
no
reason
to
think
that
they're,
inaccurate,
okay,
thanks
very
much.
Let's
go
on
to
our
city,
council,
members
and
city
council.
Let
me
just
do
a
quick
time
check
here,
we're
at
6
23.
A
Let's
try
to
you
know,
convene
the
regular
meeting
on
time
at
6
45,
so
that
gives
us
about
20
minutes
to
go
over
this.
Let's
try
to
do
this.
Let's
try
to
have
some
initial
comments
from
our
council.
Try
to
encapsulate
them!
Please
try
within
about
a
minute
and
a
half,
but
you'll
get
two
minutes
and
then
we'll
try
to
put
a
motion
on
the
table
and
see
if
we
can,
you
know
try
to
give
some
specific
direction
to
staff
that
way.
A
So
we'll
start
with
vice
mayor
ciao,
followed
by
councilmember
moore,
followed
by
councilmember
wooley.
E
So
I
get
two
minutes
after
this
item
was
proposed
in
the
beginning
of
2019
and
carrying.
E
So
I
think
I
I
think
it's
fine
art,
chin,
adding
culture
to
the
commission
makes
sense.
However,
this
is
not
a
name
change,
don't
sell
it
as
a
name
change,
it's
an
expansion
of
draw
and
then
who
proposed
it.
I
don't
know,
but
why
do
we
add
an
item
that's
proposed
later,
while
we
are
rejecting
other
items
that
are
also
slight
expansion
of
the
role,
for
example,
transportation?
E
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
add
that
to
planning
which
is
what
paula,
although
I
think
fountain
view,
also
does
it's
a
conflict
of
interest,
always
the
backpack
commission
for
community
engagement,
that's
something
I
had
hoped
to
consider,
not
adding
a
commission
but
adding
it
to
library,
especially
now
we
have
a
community
communication
strategies
plan
that
probably
will
have
some
metrics
that
we
need
the
commission
commissioners
to
help,
look
at
and
look
at
segmented
markets
that
we
need
to
outreach
to.
I
hope
that
the
library
commission
can
be
expanded
to
take
on
this
role.
E
Social
services.
We
don't
provide
social
services.
Therefore,
it's
important
to
inform
our
residents
where
to
get
the
services
either
from
the
county
or
non-profit
agency.
So
I
would
like
to
see
the
housing
commission
be
expected
to
consider
mental
social
services
and
maybe
also
senior,
if
we
need
to
combine
that
with
a
commissioner
under
the
city,
because
housing
commission
has
a
lot
of
potential,
but
then
their
meetings
are
kind
of
a
lot.
They
often
only
receive
information,
and
I
would
like
them
to
take
a
more
active
role
on
in
serving
the
city
design
review.
E
Commission,
I
thought
that's
a
legal
requirement,
but
I
do
know.
Palo
alto
has
an
architectural
review
committee.
Maybe
we
should
look
that
into
that
or
further
fiscal
strategic
committee.
I
didn't
know
what
that
is.
It
has
one
meeting
and
a
year
sometimes
cancelled
economic
development
committee
is
unsure.
What's
the
role
we
need
to
represent
both
of
them?
Public
works
is
an
area.
I
think
we
need
a
supervision
and
input
from
the
public.
E
A
Thank
you
so
next
week
tell
someone
more.
F
Okay,
so
I
would
recommend
that
this
item
that
we
have
more
time
for
it.
This
is
really
not
adequate,
so
I
do
really
like
the
member
of
the
public.
I
believe
it
was
jennifer
griffin
suggesting
the
historical
commission.
I
don't
know
where
that
could
be
placed,
but
I
like
the
idea
of
that.
I
do
want
to
point
out
that
there
is
another
committee,
the
cupertino
strategic
or
the
the
cupertino
cusd
strategic
partnership
committee,
and
that
has
two
city
staff
members
on
it.
F
There's
no
charter
for
its
composition
and
and
two
city
city
council
members,
along
with
cusd
board
and
staff
as
well.
Economic
development
committee
has
up
to
four
city
staff
members,
members
of
the
chamber
of
commerce
and
some
members
of
the
city
council.
So
there's
the
the
issue
with
having
city
staffers
shows
up
in
a
few
places
design
review
committee.
I
think
we
need
to
bring
that
back
to
council
because
I'm
reading
their
their
charter,
they
are
in
the
municipal
code.
F
The
purpose
of
the
design
review
committee
shall
endeavor
to
reduce
the
planning
commission's
workload,
etc.
You
can
read
it
the
relation
and
it
will
inc.
It
shall
include
all
aspects,
all
aspects
of
sight
and
architectural
design,
including
the
relationship
of
the
building
to
its
surrounding
land
uses
in
the
street.
Compliance
with
adopted
height
limits,
setbacks
and
more
protection
of
surrounding
land
uses
from
intrusive
impacts,
such
as
noise
glare
dust,
chemicals,
smells
visual
disturbances,
d,
provide
adequate
parking
and
circulation
for
vehicles
and
pedestrians.
F
We
had
no
design
review
committee
review
of
what
happened
at
westport,
which
is
showing
up
later
or
or
the
the
beta
brothers
project,
and
this,
I
think,
really
needs
to
be
looked
over
to
see
if
we
have
actually
been
in
compliance
with
what
we
have
in
our
municipal
code,
the
environmental
review
committee.
It
was
actually
supported
by
our
former
city
manager
that
we
expand
the
role
of
the
erc
to
include
things
which
would
impact
the
residents
of
cupertino,
because
right
now,
we're
not
allowed
at
the
erc
to
study.
F
What's
going
on
at
lehigh,
for
instance,
or
if
a
major
development
is
happening
on
our
borders,
which
is
going
to
impact
us.
We
can't
study
the
the
the
traffic
impacts,
the
air
quality
impacts
in
order
to
advise
council
to
perhaps
write
a
letter
to
that
city
about
the
project
and
how
it's
impacting
us,
so
I
think
it
needs
to
be
continued.
Thank
you.
Thank.
G
Yeah,
maybe
the
city
managers
can
put
back
that
slide
on
traffic
and
transportation.
I
think
I
think
it
it
helps
so
traffic
and
transportation.
Okay.
Well,
let's
kind
of
put
that
aside
for
a
second
and
say
what
are
the
most
important,
the
most
important
issues
for
the
community
here:
number
one
school
number:
two
crime
number
three
graphic
well
trying
to
have
the
bike
and
ped
commission
do
traffic?
Well,
let's
just
kind
of
brainstorm:
I'll
try
to
be
brief:
traffic
and
traffic
transportation,
how
to
increase
ridership
on
buses
and
other
public
transportation?
G
So
what
we
want
to
do
is
to
improve
the
life
of
our
residents
and
our
visitors
to
the
city
and
to
me,
traffic
and
transportation
is
not
something
that
should
be
under
bike
and
head
bike.
Pet
has
a
very
important
role:
bicycle
safety,
bicycle
pass,
pedestrian
paths,
yes,
absolutely,
but
traffic
and
transportation
is
vital
to
everyone
in
our
community,
and
yet
we
don't
have
a
commission
on
it.
We
have
other
commissions
where
we
get
the
the
notification
meetings
cancelled.
G
Let's
revisit
some
of
these
other
commissions
and
maybe
combine
some
of
them,
but
the
important
ones
to
our
community
community.
I
think,
need
to
be
really
well
well
understood
and
at
the
top
of
our
list,
so
I've.
I
really
wanted
this
once
I
was
on
the
city
council
and
it
it's
never
gone
anywhere
either
so
I'll
leave
it
at
that.
Take
it
away.
H
Thank
you,
mayor
paul.
I
agree
with
council
member
I'm
sorry,
my
my
mind
is
blank.
Okay,
I
remember
was
I
I
agree
with
councilmember
moore
that
we
need
more
time
for
this
and,
yes,
I
had
a
kind
of
a
day
job
where
I
feel
that
we're
talking
a
lot
about
things
just
like
when
we're
doing
our
city
plans,
we
we
want
a
lot
of
things
done,
but
we
have
to
consider
our
time
and
our
staff
time
and
our
our
budget.
H
So
I
do
think
we
need
more
time
to
think
about
this.
To
you
know,
maybe
do
a
real
study
on
this
and
we
can
add
as
many
commissions
as
we
want,
but
we
really
have
to
be
realistic.
We
have
staff
time
to
do
it
and,
like
council
member
willie
said,
maybe
we
need
to
reduce
some
of
other
commissions
and
to
add
ones
that
we
think
that's
important
to
have
or
will
make
a
difference.
H
You
know
we
can
have
all
these
commissions
and
then
do
studies,
but
if
we
don't
have
a
work
plan
to
go
with
it,
if
we
don't
have
a
county
to
to
collaborate,
those
studies
can
go
nowhere.
So
we
really
have
to
look
at.
Why
are
we
adding
these?
What
are
the
functions?
What
real
work
plans
has
come
out
of
it
and
do
we
have
the
staff
time
to
do
it?
Do
we
have
the
budget
to
do
it,
so
I
I
think
we
need
more
time.
C
Appreciate
the
council's
discussion,
I
think
it
is
a
complex
issue
to
grapple
in
this
short
amount
of
time,
especially
given
all
of
the
ramifications
of
the
decisions
on
workloads.
There
was
one
point,
as
I
raced
through
that
I
didn't
make
clearly
enough,
that
was
in
the
staff
report,
but,
as
I
glossed
over
my
slides
and
a
council
member
mentioned
it
and
I
just
wanted
to
be
very
clear
commissions,
have
no
role
overseeing
or
supervising
any
department.
C
So,
even
if
you
set
up
a
public
works
commission,
the
public
works
commission
only
role
is
to
advise
and
recommend
to
the
councils,
commissions
and
committees
advise
and
recommend
to
the
council.
They
don't
direct
staff,
and
I
just
wanted
to
be
very
clear
on
that
for
the
muni
code
and
how
almost
every
city
in
california
is
structured
right.
A
Okay,
well
before
we
take
it
back
to
any
other
rounds.
We
we
are
running
pretty
brief
on
time
and
so
I'll
I'll
just
initiate
it
by
saying
or
my
comments
by
saying
that
I
would
be
supportive
of
bringing
this
back
at
a
later
date.
I
think,
given
you
know
the
number
of
commissions
and
committees
that
we
have,
we
probably
need
a
workshop
on
this.
You
know
for
this
particular
topic,
because
it
is
literally
as
far
ranging
as
as
our
city
goes.
A
There
are
good
reflections
of
what
our
members
of
the
community
prioritize
as
wanting
to
have.
You
know
special.
You
know
sub
bodies
within
the
the
city,
governmental
structure.
So
for
me
I
I
think
if
I
had
to
triage
things,
I
think
that
it's
particularly
important
if
no
charter
exists
or
no
description
exists,
that
we're
holding
to
that.
We
need
to
fix
that.
So
so.
A
A
I
don't
know
how
the
members
are
selected,
you
know,
and
but
I
do
know-
that
the
city
of
cupertino
elects
five
council
members
and
from
what
I've
seen
they
have
no
input
whatsoever
as
to
the
composition
outside
of
the
you
know,
appointments
on
an
annual
basis,
so
so
this
is
what
I
would
request
you
know
with
regard
to
the
economic
development
committee
and
the
fiscal
strategic
committee.
A
You
know
I
would
like
them
merged
into
one,
and
I
would
call
it
the
economic
development
and
fiscal
strategic
committee
like
greg
was
just
saying
you
know
the
remind
the
reminder
is
that
all
this
is
advisory
with
you
know
some
limited
exception,
but
but
this
would
be
all
advisory
and
I'd
like
to
see
five
members
on
such
a
committee
with
representatives
from
retail,
traditional
retail
from
the
technology
sector,
one
from
our
hotels
and
two
from
our
council,
so
that
would
be
make
it
pretty
similar.
A
If
I
were
to
put
a
motion
forth,
I
would
put
it
motion
forth
on
this,
but
you
know,
I
think
it's
important
enough,
that
we
can
go
ahead
and
you
know
fold
it
into
a
workshop
in
the
future.
I'd
like
to
see
it,
you
know
come
back
to
council,
perhaps
perhaps
in
february
you
know
we
have
a
new
city
manager
and
I
think
this
is
actually
a
pretty
good
initial
project
in
terms
of
cleaning
up
some
of
our
committee
and
commission
stuff,
the
other
one,
the
environmental
review
committee.
A
You
know,
I
I
I
think
it's
important
to
have.
I
think
you
know
environmental
issues
are
extremely
important
to
to
our
community.
I
hear
what
greg
is
saying
with
regard
to
you:
don't
want
staff
to
create
a
brown
act
problem
so
yeah.
I
think
one
way
we
fix.
That
is
with
the
composition.
I
don't
think
it
should
be
a
majority
of
staff,
because
then
it
basically
ends
up
kind
of
derogating,
the
public
function,
and
then
you
kind
of
ask
yourself
as
either
a
council,
member
or
planning.
Commissioner.
Why
am
I
sitting
here?
A
If,
basically,
I'm
you
know
vetoed
by
my
staff
and
so,
but
I
think
that
you
know
a
wise
planning,
commissioner
or
wise
council
member,
you
know,
needs
to
very
very
heavily
rely
upon
the
expertise
and
the
training
of
a
staff
member,
but
I
think
composition,
city
manager,
the
director
of
planning,
a
planning
commissioner
and
two
council
members.
Those
would
be
my
asks
and
recommendations
for
the
environmental
review
committee.
I
know
the
councilmember
moore
talked
about
scope,
you
know
of
what
they
talk
about
and
can
you
know
advise
upon
an
erc?
A
So
you
know,
I
think,
absolutely
we
should
you
know,
be
bringing
that
back
in
terms
of
having
a
more
elaborate
workshop.
A
So
I
mean
I
I
think
if
I
were
to
put
forward
a
suggestion,
I
would
move
that
we
direct
staff
to
take
our
council
feedback
without
you
know
specifying
it
here,
but
just
to
go
back
to
the
tape
so
to
speak,
and
you
know
see
what
each
of
the
council
members
were
interested
in
and
prepare
to
bring
us
back
back
to
a
council
on
commissions
on
not
counseling
commissions
but
commissions
and
committees
workshop,
perhaps
sometime
in
mid.
A
A
Yeah
bring
it
back
yeah,
so
I
just
like
a
dedicated
workshop
for
that,
and
so
I
don't
see
councilman
moore's
hand
raised
anymore,
and
and
thank
you
for
being,
you
know,
respectful
and
cognizant
of
our
our
time,
commitments
and
constraints.
You
know
tonight
obviously,
is
a
very
big
meeting,
a
very
packed
agenda,
and
so
vice
mayor
trail.
What
I'm
going
to
do
is
ask
our
city
clerk
to
conduct
a
roll
call
vote
on
this,
because
it's
basically
a
to
be
continued
type
of
item.
Madam
city
clerk
would.
E
So
what
I
proposed
to
add
transportation
to
planning,
because
planning
canceled
fifty
percent
of
their
meetings
when
I
got
on
the
board-
and
I
had
proposed
to
add
to
social
services,
to
housing,
because
social
service
to
housing,
because
housing
has
been
very
impact,
doing
not
very
much.
The
granted
program
is
only
once
a
year
and
that
what
I
proposed
for
community
engagement
for
engagement
for
library,
because
library
was
in
danger
of
being
cancelled
also
when
I
joined
the
council,
so
these
are
three
commissions
that
have
not
been
effectively
using
their
time.
E
So
I
thought
it
makes
sense
to
expand
their
responsibility.
Thank
you.
A
You
know,
and
I'll
just
add
that
you
know
it
really
is
a
great
project
for
our
new
city
manager
because
of
the
fact
of
the
breadth
of
the
scope
of
all
the
commissions
and
committees,
and
a
great
way
to
you
know
meet
the
people
that
are
actively
involved
in
our.
E
A
Talk
that
was
raised
with
comments,
and
I
I
would
expect
that
to
be.
You
know
addressed
as
well,
so
thank
you
very
vice
mayor
ciao
and
so
madam
city
clerk.
Would
you
please
conduct
that
role
vote
for
the
motion
to
bring
this
back
as
a
workshop
in
the
middle
of
the
next
next
calendar
year?
Quarter.