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The World Health Organization's Mental Health expert, Aiysha Malik speaks with WHO's Head of Social Media and Media Monitoring, Sari Setiogi, about mental health challenges during the COVID-19 outbreak. Originally recorded on March 10.
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B
We
know
that
we
are
not
only
fighting
the
virus,
but
we
are
also
managing
stigma,
fear
and
discrimination.
So
today,
I'm
sitting
here
with
our
mental
health
expert,
I
sha
malik
to
talk
about.
Why
is
it
important
to
to
talk
to
understand
about
the
mental
health
aspect
on
this
disease?
So
I
sure?
Can
you
explain
to
our
audience
today?
C
Sorry
so
sorry
said
we're
not
just
talking
about
an
outbreak
of
Cove
in
nineteen.
What
we're
also
seeing
is
an
increase
in
the
anxiety
that
people
are
experiencing.
So
it's
really
important
to
think
about
mental
health
as
part
of
the
public
health
response
to
Cove
in
nineteen.
C
We
know
that
in
emergency
situations
the
mental
health
can
decline
in
the
population
and
that
there's
a
high
rate
of
mental
health
conditions,
so
people
who
might
be
vulnerable
to
experience
mental
health
or
stress
during
this
time
might
include
people
who
have
pre-existing
mental
health
conditions
or
substance
use
conditions
in
the
community
or
who
might
represent
other
vulnerable
groups
who
are
vulnerable
to
stress.
So
we're
not
just
talking
about
protection
from
covert
19,
but
we're
also
talking
about
prevention
of
stress
and
fear.
During
this
event,
as
well.
B
C
C
These
are
all
very
natural
questions
to
be
asking
and
if
you're
asking
these
questions,
then
I
would
again
encourage
you
to
go,
find
the
facts
and
get
the
answers
as
well.
So
fear
is
something
that's
designed
to
keep
us
safe,
so
it
makes
us
take
action
to
keep
ourselves
safe,
but
sometimes
the
actions
that
we
take
might
be
inadvertently
harmful
to
ourself
or
to
others.
So
this
can
include
things
like
stigma.
C
B
C
Stigma
or
health-related
stigma
is
something
that
can
arise
where
a
sense
of
disapproval
or
shame
is
attributed
to
a
person
because
of
their
association
with
a
health
condition.
So
here
we're
talking
about
kovat
and
what
that
does
is
it
can
result
in
the
experiences
of
rejection
or
exclusion
or
acts
of
discrimination,
and
these
acts
of
discrimination
can
be
very
harmful,
physically
and
mentally
for
that
group.
So
our
main
message
here
is
around
the
use
of
language
to
fight
stigma.
So
words
are
very
powerful.
C
Words
can
create
stigma,
but
that
also
means
that
words
and
the
words
that
we
choose
to
use
can
minimize
stigma
as
well.
So,
for
example,
one
thing
that
we
would
encourage
is
not
to
attribute
co
vid
19
to
any
specific
socio-demographic,
so
that
can
include,
for
example,
ethnicity
or
nationality
or
geography.
C
Co,
feed
19
can
and
has
affected
people
from
various
different
backgrounds.
It's
a
global
issue
and
it's
important
to
not
attach
it
to
a
particular
identity
group,
because
it
can
affect
acts
of
discrimination
towards
that
group
or
people
who
might
be
perceived
as
belonging
to
that
group.
So
language
also
can
go
beyond
that
as
well,
so
we
can
also
think
about
how
do
we
use
language
when
we
talk
about
kovat
19?
C
One
of
the
things
that
we
can
do
is
something
called
separating
covert
19
from
the
person
that
you're,
describing,
rather
than
giving
them
the
identity
bike,
ovid
19.
So
in
English,
what
I
mean
by
this
is,
you
would
prefer
to
say
a
person
has
kovat
19
or
a
person
who
is
recovering
from
Co
vid
19,
rather
than
attaching
the
label
to
the
person,
for
example,
The
Cove
in
nineteen
case
Cove
in
nineteen
family.
C
C
So
we've
heard
impress
briefings
this
week,
some
very
nice
stories
coming
from
communities
who
have
been
supporting
family
members
of
health
workers
who
are
responding
took
over
19
and
on
top
of
these
actions
that
are
constructive,
that
you
can
do
the
community
in
the
public
play
a
huge
role
in
tackling
stigma
and
discrimination.
So
you
can
yourselves
be
advocates
for
using
these
kinds
of
language
tips
that
we've
given
and
also
for
addressing
any
misconceptions
or
rumors
or
misinformation.
That's
been
spreading,
so
I
would
encourage
everyone
to
take
a
role
in
that.
C
B
So
we
actually
started
getting
questions
from
the
audience.
Thank
you
for
sending
your
questions
and
I
will
be
checking
my
phone
every
now
and
then
and
apologize
for
that,
because
I
need
to
read
the
questions
so
I
should.
The
first
question
is
from
Vasuki
Vasudevan,
it's
a
good
question
as
parents.
How
do
we
cope
with
distress
in
following
the
news
and
all
that
about
the
coronavirus
and
how
to
how
to
talk
with
children
about
discovered
19m?
It's.
C
A
really
good
question:
it's
a
very
important
thing
to
be
thinking
about
in
terms
of
mental
health
considerations
when
we
think
about
the
stress
that
young
people
might
be
experiencing
and
in
turn
that
role
that
parents
might
have
as
part
of
alleviating
that
stress.
So
during
a
situation
like
this-
and
it
very
much
depends
on
the
situation
in
your
own
community,
children
will
experience
stress.
Also,
children
can
experience
stress
and
they
might
present
in
many
different
ways.
They
could
be
more
attached
to
you
or
more
clingy
to
you.
C
C
What
we
would
do
is
encourage
you,
as
parents
or
caregivers
of
young
people,
to
be
as
honest
as
possible
with
them,
because
giving
children
clear
messages
about
the
situation
in
a
way
that's
adapted
for
their
age
can
help
them
to
understand.
What's
going
on
so
remember
again,
the
the
idea
of
facts,
minimizing
fear
applies
to
every
part
of
the
population,
whether
you're
a
young
person
or
a
parent.
C
If
you,
if
you're
in
a
situation
where
you're
having
to
spend
more
time
at
home
or
your
kids,
have
had
to
come
off
school,
we
would
encourage
you
to
try
to
maintain
as
normal
a
routine
as
possible
for
that
child,
so
helping
them
to
retain
on
to
some
sort
of
normality
and
if
that's
not
possible,
to
create
new
routines,
which
include
times
for
playing
and
times
for
learning,
if
that's
possible.
So
there's
a
big
role
that
caregivers
can
play
in
this
great
at
my
so.
B
C
That's
a
really
nice
question
and
I'm
really
glad
you've
asked
that
question,
because
it
really
for
me
emphasizes
that
all
of
us
have
a
role
to
play
when
it
comes
to
supporting
those
who
might
be
additionally
affected
by
the
current
situation.
So,
in
this
regard,
I
would
say
to
make
sure
that
you're
providing
is
much
kindness
and
compassion
to
that
person
as
possible.
You
can
use
principles
called
psychological
first
aid
principles
and
that
information
is
also
available
on
our
website,
where
you're,
giving
practical
but
emotional
supports
to
that
person
if
they
need
it.
C
I
also
talked
about
before
all
the
actions
that
you
can
take
to
help
to
tackle
stigma
so
around
using
certain
types
of
language
and
also
around
your
role
in
correcting
any
misconceptions
or
misinformation
or
Mis
uses
of
language
out
there.
So
that's
another
activity
that
you
could
do
at
the
higher
level.
C
If
you
feel
that
your
friend
or
is
really
affected
by
this
experience,
that
they've
had
if
they've
had
direct
discrimination,
you
can
encourage
your
friend
if
they
need
to
to
reach
out
and
seek
social
support
from
a
trusted
person,
so
that
could
be
someone
in
their
social
circle
like
yourself
or
like
a
another
friend
or
a
family
member,
if
needed.
It
can
also
includes
seeking
specialist
supports
from
mental
health
and
psychosocial
services
if
they're
available
in
your
area,
if
your
friend's
well-being
really
declines
good.
C
Really,
impulsive
question
being
in
some
form
of
isolation
or
quarantine,
is
a
challenging
experience
for
your
mental
well-being.
We
advocate
very
heavily
around
social
support
being
very
good
for
your
mental
health,
but
the
idea
of
isolation
or
quarantine
means
that
that
can
be
a
little
bit
limited.
That's
not
always
the
case.
C
It
could
be
that
your
self
isolating
at
home,
but
you've
still
got
other
family
members
or
friends
in
the
house,
all
that
you're
in
quarantine
and
that
there
are
other
people
that
might
be
accessible
to
you,
if
possible,
keep
maintaining
your
social
contacts
within
reason
if
in
person,
according
to
the
health
guidance
of
your
country.
Otherwise,
if
you
have
this
accessible
to
you,
digital
methods
of
communication
or
even
phone,
it's
a
really
good
way
to
keep
maintaining
your
social
contact
and
it's
something
in
particular
to
think
about
with
adolescents.
C
During
this
time
now,
when
you're
in
isolation,
another
important
thing
to
do
is
still
to
continue,
if
possible,
maintaining
your
routines
to
maintain
a
sense
of
normality
and,
when
I
say
maintaining
a
routines.
This
is
because
it
includes
self-care
strategies,
so
you're
eating
well
trying
to
make
sure
you
get
enough
rest
and
sleep
and
trying
to
get
physical
activity
as
well.
So
these
are
all
things
that
you
can
do
when
you're
in
isolation
and
also
activities
that
stimulate
your
mind
or
the.
What
we
call
cognitively
stimulating
can
be
quite
good
as
well.
C
B
C
Oh
okay,
so
really
important
question
so
I
see
we
were
talking
about
children
earlier
now
we're
talking
about.
Actually
our
parents
who
might
be
older,
adult
population,
so
older
adults
vary
in
many
different
ways
and
what
is
important
for
older
adults
is
ensuring
that
they
have
the
facts
and
the
information
presented
to
them
in
a
very
clear
way.
C
So
again,
just
reiterating
that
facts
can
help
to
minimize
fear
and
what
can
be
helpful
for
older
adults
is
to
think
about
making
sure
that
the
information
that
they're
receiving
about
how
to
protect
themselves
is
clearly
presented
and
is
something
that
they're
able
to
understand
and
implement
for
themselves.
So
this
is
a
very
simple
action
that
can
be
taken.
Similarly,
all
the
advice
about
taking
care
of
yourself,
so
the
healthy
diet,
healthy
sleeping,
healthy
exercise
or
some
form
of
physical
activity
can
also
be
applied
to
older
adults
as
well.
C
So
this
can
be
among
some
of
the
things
that
you're
recommending
to
your
parents
if
they're
in,
if
they're
in
that
population.
Now
there
are
a
variety
of
things
that
we
also
need
to
think
about
with
the
older
adult
population.
Some
people
might
have
cognitive
decline
or
a
dementia,
and
there
we
need
to
think
a
little
bit
more
about
how
the
messages
are
given
to
ensure
that
there
able
to
protect
themselves.
So
you
might
need
to
make
adaptations.
C
You
might
find
that
you're
needing
to
repeat
that
you're
presenting
information
more
simply
using
simple
languages
or
even
presenting
it
using
images
or
pictorially.
This
can
be
an
important
adaptation
to
make,
and
this
is
something
that
can
be
helpful
to
minimize
the
stress
of
older
adults
at
that
time.
B
C
A
little
bit
like
fear
can
sometimes
be
helpful.
It's
probably
keeping
you
motivated
and
active
in
your
job
and
it's
important
to
think
about
managing
your
stress
as
well
as
protecting
yourself
physically
during
the
Kovan
19
response,
because
the
better,
your
mental
well-being
during
this
time,
the
better
capacity
you
will
have
to
be
able
to
do
your
job.
So
it
is
important
to
think
about
stress
management
as
well.
So
again,
the
same
things
apply
to
health
workers
in
terms
of
looking
after
yourselves
as
it
does
for
all
members
of
the
population.
C
So
your
self-care
strategies
around
seeking
social
supports,
looking
after
your
health,
your
diet,
your
physical
activity
and
also
thinking
about
what
are
the
strategies
that
you
might
have
used
before
to
help
you
cope
with
stress.
Many
of
you
might
not
have
experienced
a
situation
like
covet
19
before
that's
okay,
the
situation
may
be
different,
but
the
strategies
for
managing
stress
are
the
same,
and
it's
really
important
as
well
for
health
workers
to
think
about,
and
everyone
to
think
about
minimizing
strategies
which
might
not
be
very
helpful
for
you.
C
So
these
are
things
that
feel
really
good
in
the
short-term
like
having
alcohol
or
having
tobacco
or
drugs,
but
actually
in
the
long-term,
don't
benefit
your
mental
well-being,
so
many
things
that
health
workers
can
think
about.
But
on
top
of
that
we
are
talking
about
a
workplace
situation
where
health
workers
have
managers
or
leaders
of
health
facilities.
C
Rotating
workers
from
high
stress
to
low
stress
functions
or
pairing,
experienced
workers
with
inexperienced
workers
or
other
forms
of
the
buddy
system
can
be
really
helpful
and
just
like
everybody
else,
making
sure
that
your
team
that
responding
to
Co
vid
are
kept
up-to-date
with
the
information.
So
that's
all
the
members
of
your
team.
This
can
really
help
with
managing
stress
at
that
time
and,
finally,
that
managers
themselves
are
probably
under
undue
pressure
in
this
in
this
moment.
C
B
We're
getting
a
lot
of
interesting
questions
and
people
are
asking
for
a
different
group
of
the
population.
We
have
a
question
from
Heather
Dawson
who
asks
so
as
a
mental
health
practitioner.
How
do
we
control
the
anxiety
of
those
who
are
most
vulnerable,
for
example,
the
homeless
substance,
addicted
and
severely
mentally
ill
yeah
yeah.
C
C
So,
as
I
said
earlier,
the
situation
like
this
can
really
exacerbate
the
stress
of
the
population
and
can
really
exacerbate
stress
or
potentially
lead
to
relapse
for
people
who
do
have
existing
conditions.
So
it's
important
to
ensure
that
that
care
is
still
in
place
and
the
mental
health,
practitioners
or
mental
health
and
psychosocial
support
practitioners
a
well-placed
to
provide
this
support.
C
B
Thanks,
there
is
also
a
question
from
Carlos
Rivera
Rosario.
Thank
you
for
your
question.
This
is
about
employers.
How
can
employers
who
work
with
their
employees
for
mental
health
in
the
workplace
in.
B
C
Really
nice
question
something
that
we
encourage
is
strategies
that
you
have
used
in
the
past
which
have
you
have
found
to
be
helpful
to
you,
which
have
helped
you
to
relax
or
to
minimize
your
stress
or
minimize
anxiety
would
really
strongly
encourage
carrying
on
with
those
activities
as
long
as
they
are
helpful
and
safe
for
you.
So
meditation
could
be
one
of
those
activities
and
there
are
many
other
activities
that
people
might
have
found
has
been
helpful
in
the
past,
for
them
to
manage
stress
and
it's
something
that
they
can
implement
now.
B
Another
interesting
question
from
who
and
Carlos
Lopez
in
Madrid
I
believe
who
asks
in
relation
of
schools
being
closed
either,
because
there
are
case
there
was
confirm,
covet
19,
patient
or
as
a
precautionary.
His
question
is
how
to
reduce
fear
about
covet
19
among
students
and
possible
bullying
consequences
for
children
who
are
infected
19.
C
Maybe
afterwards,
situations
where
there
might
be
bullying
so
really
important
point
and
actually
ties
into
what
we've
been
talking
about
earlier
in
this
conversation,
which
is
around
stigma
and
stigma
having
an
impact
on
the
acts
of
discrimination
that
people
can
take
and
bullying
between
young
people
is
one
of
those
examples.
So
if
a
school
is
still
in
session,
this
is
an
opportunity
for
schools
to
be
able
to
disseminate
the
information
which
helps
to
tackle
stigma.
C
C
Great
great
question:
there's
so
much
information
out
there
at
the
moment
and
for
some
people,
actually
it's
quite
normal
to
have
so
much
information
coming
at
us
and
be
quite
overwhelmed
by
it
and
in
fact
some
people
can
find
the
news
very
distressing
at
this
moment
in
time.
So
we
would
really
encourage,
as
well
as
passive,
managing
fear
and
stress
in
covert
19
to
minimize.
C
If
it's
something
that
distresses
you
to
minimize
the
amount
of
times
that
you
are
exposing
yourself
to
news
or
media,
and
you
could
even
consider
limiting
you're
setting
a
target
to
limit
yourself,
for
example,
one
to
two
times
a
day.
Only
something
just
to
reflect
on
with
the
news
as
well
is
just
to
remember
that
the
numbers
and
the
the
information
that's
coming
through
these
are
numbers,
but
we
are
talking
about
people
and
people's
lives.
So
that
is
just
something
to
reflect
on
when
trying
to
think
about.
C
B
C
So
I
said
earlier,
the
fear
is
something
that
our
we're
all
designed
to
experience.
Fear,
because
fear
is
something
that
can
help
to
keep
us
safe
and
fear,
is
something
that
we
experience
in
the
face
of
perceived
or
actual
danger
or
weather,
where
there's
uncertainty,
something
unknown
something
unclear,
so
fear
can
sometimes
lead
us
to
take
actions
which
help
to
keep
ourselves
safe,
and
sometimes
it
can
lead
us
to
actions
which
might
not
be
beneficial
for
us
and
might
not
be
beneficial
for
others.
So
this
is
something
that
fear
does.
C
If
we're
experiencing
a
lot
of
fear
and
engaging
in
actions
which
perhaps
aren't
helpful
or
necessary
for
ourselves,
or
indeed
for
the
benefit
of
our
communities.
It's
it's
something
that
it
makes
sense
in
the
context
of
the
situation,
but
the
advice
around
this
is
to
think
about
what
are
the
facts
at
the
moment?
What
does
the
information
say
about
what
you
need
to
do
to
protect
yourself
and
I?
Think
the
advice
is
around
making
sure
you
have
sufficient
resources.
Should
you
have
to
self
isolate,
which
is
for
a
period
of
14
days.
B
C
There
is
it
that's
a
very
interesting
question
as
well:
I
think
it's
an
anxiety
that
is
indeed
shared
by
many
people.
The
the
important
thing
here
is
you
don't
necessarily
need
to
take
responsibility
for
managing
other
people's
responses
to
you,
I
think,
ultimately,
as
long
as
you're
following
the
protection
procedures
and
the
coughing
etiquette,
so
on
that's
been
advocated
by
w-h-o.
That's
what's
important
in
this
situation,
so
other
people
I
hope.
You
are
aware
of
of
the
advice
that
WTO
has
been
issuing
around
how
to
protect
yourself,
for
example,
in
good
coughing
etiquette.
C
B
C
C
C
Facts
facts
on
how
you
protect
yourself,
how
you
can
protect
others
are
the
solution
to
any
misinformation
or
rumors,
which
can
be
part
of
perpetuating
some
of
the
stigma
at
this
time
and
self-care
strategies
are
the
way
to
address
your
mental
health
and
your
stress
and
manage
your
well-being
at
this
time,
and
should
you
experience
a
deterioration
to
make
sure
that
you
do
go,
seek
specialist
support
if
needed,
minimizing
the
amount
of
time
that
you
are
exposed
to
news?
If
it
is
something
that's
distressing,
you
is
important,
but
also
to
manage
stigma.
C
Thinking
about
managing
your
language,
so
not
using
terms
the
attribute
stigma
on
to
a
particular
group
of
people
and
also
thinking
about
how
to
promote
empathetic
positive
messages
who
around
recovery
stories
around
people
who've
supported
another
person
during
this
time.
These
can
be
helpful
messages
that
all
the
community
can
participate
in
to
help
promote
mental
well-being
and
reduce
stigma
at
this
moment
in
time,
while
we're
all
responding
to
Kobuk
nineteen.
B
Thank
You
aja
and
thank
you
for
everyone
who
have
joined
us
this
afternoon.
We
have
people
around
the
world
joining
our
life
from
South
Sudan,
Myanmar,
Italy,
India,
Malaysia,
Philippines,
Portugal,
Thailand,
Romania,
Kazakhstan,
Australia,
Denmark,
Singapore,
Indonesia,
Mongolia,
Costa,
Rica,
China,
Austria,
South,
Africa,
Jamaica,
Namibia,
Uganda,
Pakistan,
Cambodia,
and
many
more
so
we
are
all
in
this
together
and
we
all
have
a
role
to
play,
as
Aishah
said
so
also
as
our
director-general,
dr.
tetra,
said,
it's
solidarity
and
not
stigma
for
more
information.
You
can
go
to
our
website.