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A
Right
now,
good.
B
Evening,
mr.
mayor
good
evening,
members
of
City
Council
members
of
the
public
and
welcome
to
our
first
and
only
public
hearing
about
the
floodplain
through
wetlands
protection
publicly,
the
city
of
urban
highs,
is
considering
funding
with
Community
Development
Block
Grant
CDBG
monies
for
projects
which
may
be
located
partially
or
fully
within
the
100
year.
Old
floodplain
use
of
federal
funds
require
compliance
with
federal
executive
orders.
Today,
the
city
is
interested
in
discussing
alternatives
to
these
projects
that
we
might
do
in
these
floodplains.
B
C
You
director
Hashim
mr.
mayor
council,
thanks
for
having
me
today,
it's
good
to
see
everyone
again.
I'm
gonna
go
over
some
of
the
details
of
the
floodplains
flood
plain
and
wetlands
protection
requirements
as
it
pertains
to
our
CDBG
program.
Here
in
Dearborn
Heights,
we
follow
an
eight-step
process,
that's
mandated
by
the
federal
government
any
time
you're
going
to
fund
CDBG
CDBG
projects
within
a
community.
We
have
to
go
through
an
environmental
review
process
with
several
items.
We
have
to
look
at
one
of
those
being
the
floodplains.
C
C
We
look
at
each
project
that
we
fund
with
CDBG
funds
within
our
action
plan,
and
this
year
we've
identified
three
activities
that
will
or
may
take
place
within
the
floodplain
and
those
are
our
housing
rehab
program
number
one:
a
water
main
replacement
project
number
two
and
code
enforcement
number.
Three,
the
code
enforcement
project
is
an
exempt
activity,
so
there
was
no
further
investigation.
We
need
to
do
with
that.
C
That's
simply
inspections,
there,
no
harm
or
excavation
done
to
the
ground
or
negative
impact
to
the
to
the
floodplain,
but
we
do
look
at
our
housing,
rehab
and
water
main
replacement
activities.
Our
housing
rehab
program,
as
you
may
remember,
is
funded
through
the
Community
and
Economic
Development
Department,
and
that
is
a
note.
Zero
interest
deferred
loan
to
income
eligible
households.
C
You
know
we
look
at
that
activity.
It
made
those
projects
may
take
place
in
the
floodplain,
although
we
don't
know
exact
addresses.
Yet
we
go
through
this
process.
Upfront.
That
way
when
we
get
to
the
point
where
we
do
have
applicants
and
addresses
then
were
then
were
cleared
a
couple
details
of
that.
We
look
at
practical
alternatives
to
funding
projects
in
the
floodplain
now,
given
that
a
lot
of
the
floodplain
areas,
especially
in
the
south
end
with
India
birds,
are
fully
developed.
C
There's
not
a
real
good
alternative
to
funding
things
like
a
housing
rehab
program,
the
house
is
there
it
it
has
a
low
low
and
moderate-income
household
that
lives
there
it
needs.
Some
attention
needs
some
rehabilitation,
so
the
only
alternatives
there.
As
we
look
at
a
couple
things
number
one:
we
only
fund
minor
rehabilitation,
so
non
substantial
and
there's
a
there's,
a
definition
that
the
federal
government
prizes
for
that,
and
that
is
any
any
repair,
reconstruction,
modernization
or
improvement
of
a
structure,
the
cost
of
which
is
less
than
50%
of
the
market
value.
C
So
our
rehab
program
funds
minor
improvements
to
meet
that
definition.
That
way,
there's
no
there's
no
additional
floodplain
requirements
aside
from
requiring
each
applicant
to
have
floodplain
insurance.
That's
a
requirement
of
our
program
here
in
Dearborn
Heights.
So
not
only
do
they
have
to
be
income
qualified
the
project
has
to
be
a
considered,
a
minor
rehabilitation
and
they
need
to
have
floodplain
insurance
on
the
home.
C
So
we
we
looked
at
the
alternatives
to
that
and
we
do
put
some
some
requirements
on
the
rehab
program
to
ensure
that
there
we
minimize
any
negative
impacts
that
there
may
be
to
the
floodplain.
The
second
project
that
we
investigate
is
the
water
main
replacement
program.
This
has
become
a
project
that
has
been
funded
last
several
years
with
CDBG
funds.
C
The
section
of
water
main
to
be
replaced
is
on
Williams
Avenue
from
powers
to
van
borne
road
clippard
from
powers
to
Van,
born
Road
and
Campbell,
from
Hanover
to
Van
borne
Road.
Cdbg
contribution
is
currently
proposed
at
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
The
total
project
cost
is
six
hundred
and
seventy
five
thousand
dollars
the
difference
being
made
up
paid
for
through
the
water
department.
C
Now
this
one
is
a
little
little
trickier,
given
that
it
is
a
infrastructure
and
improvement
project
and
we
have
funded
water
main
projects
within
the
floodplain
before
in
the
past
and
gone
through
the
same
process.
It
there's
no
practical
alternative
again
to
funding
or
to
moving
a
water
main
or
you
know,
just
ignoring
a
water
main
that
needs
to
be
replaced.
These
water
mains
that
were
replacing
have
had
many
water
main
breaks
over
the
last
ten
years.
C
They've
come
at
a
significant
cost
to
the
city
in
the
DPW
has
has
made
the
determination
that
the
mains
do
need
to
be
replaced
to
minimize
the
impact
of
the
floodplain.
The
process
or
procedure
that
is
used
to
replace
the
water
main
is
what
we
call
pipe
bursting,
rather
than
dig
a
trench
down
the
entire
street
and
take
the
old
water
main
out
and
place
a
new
water
main
in.
C
They
use
a
pipe
bursting
technique
which
essentially
takes
a
new
pipe
so
picture
digging
a
hole
on
one
end
of
the
street
and
on
the
opposite
end
of
the
street
and
taking
a
new
pipe
feeding
it
through
the
old
pipe
bursting.
The
old
pipe
and
inserting
the
new
pipe
in
the
ground
now
there
are
I
think
there's
five
by
ten
boom
casting
here.
C
It's
about
five
by
ten
squares
that
are
dug
out
on
each
property
in
order
to
connect
the
water
main
to
each
home,
but
it
given
that
it's
a
trenchless
technology,
it's
still
digging,
but
it's
still
it's
to
consider
the
trenchless
technology.
It
definitely
minimizes
the
impact
in
in
the
effects
to
the
neighborhood,
we're
not
repairing
or
repaving
approaches,
and
so
on.
It
certainly
minimizes
the
impact.
C
So
that's
the
approach
we're
using
on
the
water
main
replacement
project
this
year
and
what
we've
used
in
the
past,
and
certainly
that
approach
doesn't
minimize
any
potential
impacts
to
the
floodplain.
We
have
provided
online,
our
floodplain
investigation
report.
It
was
it's
been
available
for
15
days,
we've
not
received
comments,
it's
available
for
a
15-day
public
comment.
No
comments
have
been
received
on
that
as
we're,
we
do
that
as
a
part
of
our
requirements.
C
This
is
the
final
stage
before
finalizing
our
floodplain
investigation
and
we're
here
today
to
hear
from
the
public
hear
from
you
all
on
any
any
thoughts
you
have
on
what
our
investigations
have
turned
up
and
what
approaches
we
are
using.
So
with
that
I
am
complete
with
my
portion
and
I'll
turn
it
over
to
director
hash
them
and
answer
any
questions
that
you
have.
B
Spent
no,
we
don't
return
any
funds.
We
have
not
returned
any
funds
in
the
past.
What
happens
is
we
have
to
meet
certain
ratios
set
to
us
by
federal
government
or
by
HUD
at
this
point?
And
if
we
don't
spend
the
money,
then
there's
alternatives
so
that
we
have
time
to
make
it
up.
There's
some
paperwork
that
we
have
to
do,
and
hopefully
we
will
meet
our
numbers
our
date.
Our
test
date
will
be
that
May
May
the
second
and
we
have
to
meet
certain
criteria.
B
Certain
numbers
ratios
and
hopefully
we
will
meet
those
numbers
if,
for
whatever
reason,
we
don't
meet
them
that
they
give
us
an
extension,
we
have
to
fill
out
some
paperwork
and
as
long
as
we
meet
it
the
following
month,
that's
it
it's
over
we're
done
with
the
quirements.
We
don't
have
to
return
any
money.
Thank
you.
We
have
not
returned
anyone
in
the
past.
C
C
So
I'm
the
new
pipe
so
so
picture
a
tapered
water
main
head,
so
kind
of
a
point
feed
it
through
the
old
pipe
expand,
the
old
pipe,
which
is
probably
a
cast
iron
they're,
all
probably
70
year
old
pipes,
the
new
pipes
are
made
of
a
plastic
I've,
been
told
by
our
engineers
that
they
can
last
up
to
a
hundred
years.
So
the
new
materials
are
different
than
what
has
been
used
in
the
past
so
yeah.
C
They
feed
that
through
and
expand
the
old
pipe
and
burst
it
as
they
feed
it
through
the
old
pipe
does
stay
in
the
ground
so
rather
than
dig
a
trench
now
and
remove
the
old
pipe,
they
do
this
pipe
bursting
technology
now
I've
asked
well,
there's
gonna
be
some
point
where
that
new
pipe
needs
to
be
replaced.
What
do
you
do
then?
Do
you
burst
that
pipe
too?
And
then
you
got
a
bunch
of
these
old
pipes
underground
and
they
said
well
you're
thinking
like
a
planter
or
not
like
an
engineer
right
now.
C
So
that's
actually
a
quote
from
one
of
our
engineers.
He
said,
but
you
know
whether
or
not
you
dig
it
up,
dig
up
the
entire
trench
now
or
later
it
still
need
it.
It
will
have
to
happen
at
some
point.
You
know
you
think
about
going
underground
and
creating
expanding
something
or
making
it
bigger.
You
could
have
heaving
that
happens.
So
that's
something
to
consider
as
as
you
move
forward,
and
you
know,
I
guess,
100
years
from
now,
I
would
replace
that
new
pipe
have
to
think
about.
D
So
my
question
is:
when
you
insert
the
insert
the
plastic
inside
a
cast
iron
or
whatever
pipe,
isn't
existing
right
now.
So
how
do
you
ensure,
okay,
that
I'm
sure
that
somebody's
using
that
technology
I
don't
know
what
company
is
gonna
be
using
it?
Who
is
doing
it
to
speak
dpw
or
if
it's
an
outside
source?
D
So
if
we
have
anybody
who
is
doing
it,
how
do
you
determine
if
you
have
cracks
in
the
inner
pipe,
because
sometimes
I
mean
you
might
have
the
outer
pipe
might
be
well
more
or
less
brittle
or
more
brittle
than
the
inner
pipe?
So
how
do
you
ensure,
like
actually
do
the
installation
that
there's
no
cracking
in
the
inner
pipe
and
also
the
second
question
you
know-
is
since
you're
leaving
the
old
material?
How
do
you
determine
the
integrity
of
the
street
or
whatever
it's
going
to
be
above
it?
C
So
to
answer
your
the
first
question,
the
the
new
pipe
once
installed:
they
do
pressure
testing
and
that
and
they'll
be
able
to
determine
if
there's
a
if
it's,
not
a
good
seal
within
the
pipe,
so
I
feel
like
that's
a
good.
It's
a
good
method
to
determine
whether
or
not
there
are
is
there's
any
damage
or
any
any
type
of
issue
with
it
with
the
new
pipe.
D
Says:
you're
gonna
rupture
the
outer
pipe
yeah
air
pockets.
So
with
the
flooding
areas
that
you
mentioned,
you
might
be
collecting
water
in
that
area
if
they
have
air
pockets.
So
now
the
street
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
going
to
be
checking
the
integrity
of
the
hardness
of
the
road.
So
if
you're
gonna
have
sinkhole
later
or
I
mean
that's
gonna,
be
an
issue.
Iii
would
think
if,
if
you're
not
taking
an
old
pipe
out,
now
you
taking
I've
been
a
plastic
pipe.
D
C
I'm,
the
booze
were
contracted
out
bit
out.
This
method
has
been
used
throughout
the
city
and
it's
proven
successful,
so
we
haven't
had
any
issues
with
any.
You
know.
Water
just
think
you
know
sinkholes
anything,
anything
of
that
nature.
I
would
have
to
defer
the
specifics
on
as
far
as
the
testing
of
the
hardness
the
road
and
that
to
Dan
Brooks
engineer,
he
would
probably
know
more
details
on
that.
We
can
get
you
that
information
if
you'd
like,
but
it's
not
something
I,
would
have
the
answer
for
you.
Iii.
E
Think
to
answer
the
question
and
I've
seen
as
done
is
the
pipe
you
know
when
you,
you
said
the
pipe
burst.
Sure
Mike
doesn't
first
explode
it
just
fractures
right,
so
the
the
diameter,
the
the
inside
diameter
of
the
old
pipe,
the
new
ones
gonna,
it's
almost
exactly
the
same
size
but
as
it
goes
in
its
on
a
taper.
So
it
follows
on,
as
and
as
a
as
the
taper
gets
larger
it
fractures.
So
the
space,
that's
that's!
It's!
E
C
E
C
E
C
A
F
F
C
The
the
plastic
itself
doesn't
doesn't,
doesn't
crack
cast
iron.
There's
a
there's,
a
head
put
on
the
end
of
the
pipe
it's
kind
of
a
tapered
end
that
as
they
as
they
push
it
through
the
cast
iron.
It's
not
the
it's,
not
the
plastic,
pipe,
that's
doing
the
actual
cracking
it's
the
it's
the
head
that
they
put
on
the
end.
They
feed
that
all
the
way
through
to
the
opposite
end,
where
they
have
a
hole
dug
in
that
that
water
hit.
That
head
comes
off.
F
C
I
believe
the
the
requests
the
for
the
dPW's
I
think
it
was
from
an
8
to
a
10
inch
pipe
I
I
couldn't
maybe
misquoting,
but
I
know
that
in
the
past
we
have
increased
the
capacity
by
a
couple
inches
on
some
of
the
pipes
in
the
neighborhoods.
So
if
I
would
have
to
double
check
back
into
the
proposal,
but
I
thought
I
remembered
it
going
from
8
to
10
inches,
which
you
know
sink
same
process.
It's
just
the
end
result
is
a
2
inch
bigger
in
diameter
pipe.
It's.
C
The
city
has
a
has
been
for
years,
he's
doing
water
replacements
and
they
have
a
they
have
a
plan
the
DPW
implements.
They
have
been
doing
this
all
through
the
city,
not
only
with
CDBG
funds,
but
they
use
DPW
funds
to
do
water.
Main
replacements
started
40
years
ago
yeah.
So
it's
been
going
on
a
long
time
and
I
know
that
Dan
Brooks
has
been
working
closely
with
the
Department
of
Public
Works
for
four
years.
We.
A
Started
this
pipe
bursting
wasn't
in
existence,
so
we
were
digging
up
sidewalks
and
driveways
and
making
a
mess
and
the
cost
came
down
with
this
process
and
I
think
we
switched
it
almost
10
years
ago.
I
we
have
not
had
any
complaints.
The
only
complaints,
I've
ever
received,
make
sure
they
use
good
side
or
scene,
because
sometimes
it's
always
the
person
with
the
most
prettiest
lawn
and
it
seems
like
the
seeding
or
side
they
put
in.
There
doesn't
match
and
it
goes
to
weed.
That's
the
only
complaints
that
I've
received
from
and.
C
The
in
the
completion
of
the
project
is,
it's
done
much
quicker.
They
can
come
in
and
put
a
new
pipe
in
in
a
day.
I'll
poet
me
to
imagine
going
on
digging
a
trench
through
entire
neighborhood
and
removing
an
old
pipe
I
mean
how
long
that
takes
in
getting
it
done,
but
they
could
then
done
much
faster.
This
way
to
councilman.
B
Just
just
to
let
you
know
that
these
water
mains
are
done
by
engineers,
they
do
testing
on
them.
This
is
something
not
just
the
urban
highs,
but
a
lot
of
cities
are
doing
and
basically
to
minimize
the
digging.
So
it's
not
something
specific
to
us.
It's
something
that's
been
used
all
over
the
country
do.
A
A
G
G
Okay
second
question
I
had
for
you
is:
it
was
where
you
have
the
flood
zones
there.
Mister
my
business
I've,
never
seen
it
where
somebody's
been
required
to
get
flood
insurance
in
the
areas
in
the
north
heights.
None
of
them
hit
the
residential
area.
Is
that
correct?
Is
it
only
just
near
the
river
itself.