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From YouTube: 5/16/23 - Dearborn Heights Special City Council Meeting
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The Dearborn Heights Special City Council Meeting taking place Tuesday, May 16th, 2023 in the Dearborn Heights Council Chambers and via Zoom.
B
B
C
Hassan
Ahmad
here
will
be
Dune
Nancy
Pryor
here
Robert
constant
here,
Ray
Muscat.
D
B
E
B
You're
welcome
next
up
is
our
Pledge
of
Allegiance.
That's
going
to
be
led
by
councilman
Tom
bunceos.
D
B
Support
okay
motion
made
by
councilman
I'm
sorry,
councilman,
Ahmad
and
seconded
by
councilman
constant,
any
discussion
on
that
hear.
None
all
in
favor,
please
stay
aye,
aye
aye,
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
motion
carried
next
item
on
agenda
is
we're
gonna,
have
public
hearings
and
comment
on
agenda
items
only
so
if
anybody
has
a
comma
on
anything
on
the
agenda,
which
is
specifically
the
public
hearing
for
the
budget,
please
come
on
up
counselature.
B
G
F
B
So
in
the
beginning
is
specifically
on
what's
on
agenda,
and
today's
agenda
is
specifically
the
corporate
budget
fund.
That's
specifically
proposed
corporate
budget
fund.
This
is
the
public
hearing
for
it.
So
right
now,
if
people
want
to
comment,
they'd
be
commenting
on
that
at
the
end,
I
will
give
people
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
have
comments
which
is
specifically
public
comments.
That'll
be
three
minutes
apiece
and
then
council
members,
of
course,
in
Casey
Anthony.
They
have.
H
To
see
something
they
have
to
say:
yeah,
it
was
councilman
abdullahs
and
Marge
Harvest
I.
Do
we?
Don't
the
council
members,
don't
answer
the
questions
of
the
members
of
the
public
direct
this
portion?
If
that
they
talk
at
the
end,
it's
not
encouraged,
but
we're
welcome
to,
but
just
for
councilman
Wenzel
too,
and.
B
Thank
you.
Okay,
any
members
of
the
audience
on
agenda
items
see
none
any
members
on
Zoom.
B
All
right
hearing,
none
next
up-
is
item
five,
a
council
chair
I'm.
If,
if
you
don't
mind
because
the
councilman
mod
was
going
to
start
and
I
stopped
them,
so
go
ahead,
councilman
that's
right.
Go
ahead!
I.
G
B
Motion
made
by
councilman,
Ahmad
and
seconded
by
councilman
Muscat
any
discussion
on
there
for
those
in
the
audience
and
on
Zoom.
This
is,
although
we've
given
members
of
the
public,
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
come
up
and
make
comments
on
the
budget
throughout
the
many
many
hearings
that
we've
had
I
think
off
the
top
of
my
head.
B
If
I'm,
not
mistaken,
control
read
about
yeah
five,
six,
seven
hearings
already
on
it,
but
nevertheless
this
is
the
main
one
you
will
hear
where,
in
regards
to
the
total
budget,
you'll
have
the
opportunity
to
speak
and
make
comments.
Sorry,
your
council
members
can
do
the
final
vote,
which
has
come
up
in
June
the
6th
or
something
like
that
in
June.
B
Some
time,
I'm,
not
sure
the
exact
date
I
believe
that's
the
date
for
the
final
vote
on
the
budget
for
another
station,
or
maybe
no,
it's
not
a
regular
council
meeting,
but
either
way
it'll
be
coming
up
on
a
regular
council
meeting
and
that's
when
we'll
do
the
final
May
23rd.
B
23Rd,
okay,
so
May
23rd
is
the
final
vote
on
it
by
the
city
council.
With
that
being
the
case,
we
have
our
controllers
Cindy
King
here,
we'll
start
with.
Well,
let's
go
ahead
and
vote
on
this
I'm.
Sorry,
all
in
favor,
please
stay
high.
All
right
any
opposed
the
eyes.
Have
it
motion
carried
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and,
let's
see
a
king,
our
city
controller,
please
go
ahead.
A
We
go
now
it's
on.
Okay.
First
of
all,
I
do
want
to
make
one
small
comment
if
I
may-
and
it
is
regarding
to
the
last
PowerPoint
presentation
that
was
ran
the
last
budget
hearing
and
it
was
in
regards
to
the
tpoam
clerical
staff.
There
was
some
on.
A
They
had
Mis
informed,
the
information
was
mistaken
and
they
were
a
little
bit
disgruntled
feeling
that
I
had
stated
that
they
were
clerks
data
entry,
clerks
and
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
I
do
not
look
at
them
as
data
entry,
clerks
and
I
will
be
addressing
that
when
we
go
into
negotiations
which
will
be
in
the
next
month
or
so,
okay
and
I
did
want
to
start
with
the
presentation
as
far
as
the
PowerPoint
I'm.
Sorry.
A
As
far
as
the
budget
hearings,
there
has
not
been
any
changes,
except
the
few
that
we
had
highlighted
that
we
had
discussed
when
we
were
through
our
budget
hearings
and
also
there
is
one
thing
that
we
did
not
include
here,
and
it
is
for
the
I.T
and
I'm
probably
going
to
have
to
do
a
budget
amendment.
It
is
for
a
budget.
A
Oh,
let's
see
it's
for
forensics
and
we
just
got
a
couple
couple
bids
on
this
and
it's
going
to
cost
the
city
about
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
do
this,
so
it
will
be
coming
up
for
budget
amendment
and
I
will
have
the
I.T
director
actually
explain
it
to
you.
It's
not
on
there.
It's
going
to
have
to
be
a
budget
amendment,
it's
just
a
contract
that
came
up
that
they
were
talking
about
forensics
for
the
I.T
Department
and
we
are
going
to
go
out
for
bids
for
some
grants
on
that.
A
That
to
live
for
again,
it's
called
it's
called
a
bae
Network.
It
has
to
do
with
forensics
and
there's
cameras
involved
and
I
believe,
there's,
probably
like
black
sun
on
the
doors
and
we'll
have
like
what
you
call
the
scanners
that
you
can
use
your
your
card
scanners
to.
A
Coming
up
in
the
future,
it
was
mentioned,
though
earlier,
and
they
did
want
to
put
it
on
the
budget
for
this
year.
Unfortunately,
I
don't
have
all
the
information
and
I
do
know
that
they're
going
to
be
cutting
out
some
grants
to
fluctuate
some
of
the
cost.
So
I
didn't
really
want
to
put
that
on
the
budget.
Just
yet,
but
I
thought
I
would
mention
it.
Okay,.
H
A
Okay,
actually
I
think
it'd
be
easier
for
me
just
to
go
through
my
notes,
because
I
have
everything
here
as
opposed
to
putting.
I
A
A
There
was
also
the
police
Capitol
outlay.
They
wanted
a
five-star
Chase
vehicle
vehicles.
Well,
I
have
star
Chase,
I'm.
Sorry
I
believe
that
star
chases
wasn't
that
the
thing
where
they
actually
can
capture
the
person
in
front
of
them
when
they're
in
a
Chase,
and
they.
A
B
B
H
A
J
H
Back
and
he.
A
K
F
Council,
chair
I'd,
like
to
comment
on
the
police,
the
the
star
chase.
This
is
something
that
really
concerned
me
when
it
was
brought
up
at
a
budget
meeting
and
it
was.
F
I
had
questions
on,
you
know
how
close
you
have
to
be
whatever
the
car
stores
and
the
thing
goes
out,
hits
a
person
on
the
road.
You
know
how
close
do
they
have
to
be.
There
were
so
many
unanswered
questions
and
the
chief
didn't
know
he
didn't
know
what
this
was.
Basically,
he
kind
of
had
an
idea,
but
he
didn't
have
any
answers.
F
I
say
eliminate
this
completely
forty
four
thousand
dollars
for
starting,
they
didn't
even
know
if
it
has
to
be
recharged
every
use
or
it's
a
one-time
use
and
has
to
be
replaced
for
another,
several
thousand
dollars,
so
I'm
asking
that
that
be
taken
out
of
the
budget.
Now,
maybe
we
can
have
a
special
study
session
on
that
or
something
because
this
is
It's
44
000
for
right
now,
forty
four
thousand-
and
you
know
how
that
goes.
B
So
on
Annette,
councilman
I
would
respectfully
disagree
and
I'm
gonna
explain
you.
Why?
Because
I
think
there's
there's
certain
things
that
we
should
leave
to
The,
Experts
and-
and
this
is
and
and
I
I
do
appreciate
your
comments.
But
in
this
particular
case
we
have
to
leave
it
up
to
the
police
department
to
know
what
tools
they
would
need
in
their
trade
and
based
on
a
Chief's
presentation
to
me.
B
It
made
sense
so
in
general,
just
for
those
on
the
audience
that
are
not
familiar
with
the
process
in
general,
if
there's
a
police
chase
and
obviously
they're
not
able
to
catch
the
particular
vehicle
in
front
of
them.
It
shoots
out
some
sort
of
a
GPS
system
that
connects
to
that
particular
car
and
then
they're
able,
like
the
councilman,
said,
able
to
either
continue
to
follow
it
at
a
slower
Pace,
but
basically
what
they're
trying
to
stop
these
high-speed
chases,
which
unfortunately
do
create
a
lot
of
fatalities
or
potential
fatalities.
B
B
Them
no
I
I
understand.
I
can
appreciate
that
so
on
this
particularly
again,
this
is
a
tool
of
the
trade.
So
let
me
give
an
example
like
myself
as
a
realtor,
there's
tools
of
trade
that
I
use
or
Hassan
uses
they.
You
know
you
wouldn't
be
familiar
with,
but
we
know
how
important
it
is.
I'd
like
to
use
a
lot
of
presumption
here.
F
F
Know
it's
it's
a
minimum,
fifty
thousand
dollar
item
and
then
I
said
what
happens
if
they
when
they
use
it
once
does
it
have
to
be
completely
redone,
you
know
and
that's
the
cost
of
it.
How
much
is
it
going
to
cost
to
put
it
into
the
vehicles,
how
much
it
can
cost
to
maintain
it?
I
mean
there
was
this
two
million
answered
questions
we're
getting
this
budget
and
every
time
we
come
to
a
meeting?
F
C
F
D
Again,
let's,
let's
focus
on
this,
just
because
there's
something
in
the
budget
doesn't
mean
they
get
to
buy
it
right.
They
have
to
come
to
us
first
right,
so
you
put
it
in
a
budget
if
we
don't
purchase
it,
that
money
goes
back
to
the
general
fund
right.
So
let's
remember
that,
even
with
these
five
cards,
if
we
decide
we
don't
want
to
spend
that
money
that
money
next
year
will
go
back
to
the
general
fund.
We
don't
have
to
say
yes.
H
Councilman
musket's
example
in
this
device.
It's
it
helps
prevent
us
from
like
a
high-speed
Collision
City
years
ago,
paid
out
a
large
award
a
settlement,
but
it'll
come
up
before
the
council
and
there's
four
no
votes.
No,
it
doesn't
get
purchased
that
money
stays
in.
The
general
fund
is
used
for
something
else.
A
A
A
A
And
and
the
fire
department
was
taking
it
from
his
overtime
budget,
he
felt
that
those
he
had
request.
He
had
750
000
in
his
overtime
and
he
had
requested
650.
So
he
was
taking
out
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
out
of
his
overtime
budget.
Okay,.
B
So
I
had
a
question
on
that
controller.
Why
do
we
have
such
high
overtime
so
in
the
police
department
I
understand
because
I
was
a
little
short
on
officers,
but
in
the
fire
department
to
the
best
of
my
knowledge,
I,
don't
think
we're
that
drastically
short.
So
why
would
we
have
such
high
overtime
this
year?.
A
I
believe
that
they
were
short
and
that
they
had
been
running
of
their
overtime,
because
a
lot
of
them
were
taking
vacation
or
their.
You
know
extra
time
off,
and
then
they
hit
somebody
else
that
was
covering
for
them
with.
B
Physical,
the
physical
is
back
then
again,
where
this
ends
up
costing
the
city
a
lot
more.
When
we
do
contract
negotiations,
when
we
negotiate
a
lot
of
days
off
no
I'm
not
negotiating
the
contract
here
but
but
I'm
making
a
statement
it.
It
puts
us
in
a
position
where
we
have
a
lot
of
overtime.
A
That's
correct
mayor:
did
you
want
to
say.
G
I
B
Mariana
is
this
something
possibly
from
you
or
maybe
Lynn?
Okay,
unmute
again,
can
you
hear
us
at
least
chief
yeah?
He
could
hear
us
okay,
we
may
come
back
to
you
again.
So
I
don't
know
if
you
have
to
maybe
adjust
something
on
your
end.
Possibly
you
know
what
just
to
test
this.
Let
me
see
if
anybody
else
Rick
Walland.
Can
you
hear
me
the
balloon
director
yeah
once
twice
three
times
and
you
see
Kimler
on
cell?
Can
you
hear
oh
wait?
No
Rick
is
still
muted
Kim.
B
You
hear
me:
okay,
see,
I,
can
hear
you
guys,
okay!
So
then,
then
it's
not
our
system.
It's
on
fire
chief
son
Chief.
Can
you
try
again
I
can't
hear
you?
Okay,
can
you
do
me
a
favor
chief,
we'll,
have
the
controller
continue
log
off
completely
and
come
back
on
as
soon
as
able
to
unmute?
You
will
interrupt
the
next
section.
A
Okay,
next
I
was
just
going
to
go
over
the
resolution.
Of
course,
my
computer
turned.
I
A
A
A
Okay,
so
our
tax
levy,
as
you
can
see,
for
General
government
General
operations,
is
at
estimated
11
million
733
562
dollars.
I
mean
the
first,
the
first
column.
There
is
just
your
per
rate,
taxable
assess
value.
Your
Police
and
Fire
operating
is
going
to
be
your
2.7
million.
Your
sanitation
is
3
million.
Your
sanitation
voted
is
1.3,
your
library
2.5
and
then
your
PA
345,
which
is
your
act
345
for
your
Public
Safety,
is
10
million
seven
hundred
thirty
five
thousand
total
of
thirty
two
thousand
two
hundred
and
sixty
nine
dollars.
246.
A
Again,
I
don't
know
if
you
want
me
to
read
everything
here,
but
that
does
give
you
a
breakdown
of
where
our,
where
our
taxable
revenue
is
coming
from.
That's.
D
D
A
Okay,
so
your
general
fund
you're
restricted
or
are
you
restricted,
general
fund?
As
of
June
July,
1st
2023
.?
We
have
another.
A
A
Going
to
change
it
right
now
for
you
there
you
go
page
two
okay,
so
your
estimated
beginning,
restricted
fund
as
of
July
1st
was
7.2
million
and
then
you're
beginning
unrestricted
fund,
which
is
your
fund.
Balance
for
the
general
fund
is
at
11.6
right
now.
11
million.
A
A
A
Your
revenue
for
your
property
taxes
and
rev
related
sources
is
30
million.
863.
A
D
A
Sure,
oh
yeah
how's
that
okay
I
know
I'm
reading
off
a
paper
and
you're
reading
off
the
computer
I
apologize
for
that
I'm
not
used
to
standing
up
like
Tess
okay.
So
at
the
end
of
the
day,
your
total
expenditures
are
59
million.
Your
total
revenue
just
for
this
year's
budget,
is
60
million
okay,
so
we
are
still
in
the
black.
If,
if
the,
if
we
approve
this
budget.
B
A
B
A
B
A
A
This
starts
to
tell
you
more
about
your
Community
Development,
the
total
revenue
that
we
are
expecting
from
cdbg
this
year.
As
far
as
his
expenses
and
the
estimating
fund
ending
balance,
as
of
June
30th
2024..
Now
again,
his
budget
has
not
been
approved
yet
so
these
are
just
preliminary
numbers
and
then
we
go
into
the
building
fund.
A
Which
again,
the
total
revenue
that
we
are
expecting
from
the
district
court
for
fines
and
fees
is
a
hundred
and
eight
thousand
and
the
expenses
would
be,
would
just
be
a
wash
so
they're
showing
108
000,
but
the
beginning
Revenue
that
we're
starting
with
the
building
fund
would
be
62.5
and
that's
why
we
have
it.
Overage
of
62.5
left.
H
A
A
Ending
with
the
fun
ending
with
a
5.3
million
dollar
in
the
black,
because
we're
starting
with
4.7
million
in
the
major
streets,
local
streets,
the
same
thing
we're
starting
with
the
balance
of
2.6.
Our
revenue
is
going
to
be
3
million,
and
then
our
expenses
are
about
2.8
again
leaving
us
with
2.8
and
that
account
as.
B
A
D
B
J
B
A
Which
I'm
sorry
go
ahead?
Okay,
this
beginning
balance
was
thirty
four
thousand
three
hundred
and
fifty
eight
dollars
we're
expecting
Revenue
about
209
994
dollars,
which
would
bring
our
expenses
to
209,
because
it's
a
wash
so
we're
still
going
to
have
about
thirty
four
thousand
dollars
in
net
at
the
end
of
the
year.
I
H
Prisoner
food
for
incarcerating
people
for
the
court
administration
that
cuts
it
by
two-thirds.
Yes,
because
the
the
attorney
goes
in
right
after
the
person's
arrested
and
custody
and
says:
do
you
want
to
plead
here's?
What
will
offer
you
if
the
person
pleads
this
is
over
with
so
Dearborn?
Had
that
it's
a
state
Grant,
but
they
did
that
in
the
city
of
Dearborn.
I
A
Compensated
monies.
We
had
618
000
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
we're
expecting
354
000
in
revenue,
and
our
expenses
are
about
725
000.
This
is
where
they
are
going
to
be
using
some
of
this
money
for
Capital
outlay,
where
they
had
placed
650
000
in
there
that
they
wanted
to
use
for
Capital
outlay,
and
they
are
going
to
be
using
this
compensated
money.
This
is
police
money.
B
What
So,
when
you
say,
Capital
outlay?
This
was
an
initial
proposed
budget,
so
you're
referencing
the
cars
and
then
the
star
five
star
thing.
B
A
Yeah
we
would
have
to
get
the
actual
police
chief
to
explain
what
it
was
that
they
wanted
to
spend
in
capital
outlay,
because
I
don't
have
that
right
in
front
of
me.
But
this
is
considered
their
compensated
money
that
they
were
going
to
be
using
for
capital
outlays.
B
A
The
library
funded
the
beginning
of
the
year
was
3.6
million.
A
As
of
the
beginning
of
July
2023,
we
ended
up
with
92
million
287
thousand
dollars.
That
is
restricted.
We
have
unrestricted
of
7.5
million
our
revenue
for
the
year,
we're
expecting
about
28
million
two
hundred
thirty
two
thousand
and
our
expenses
for
the
year,
including
the
L2
42
project,
is
44
million,
28
733
dollars.
H
B
What's
the
difference
between
not
what's
the
difference,
why
is
there
restricted
in
water
and
unrestricted
to
what
is
the
purposes
of
each.
A
A
F
Questions
on
page
58,
your
reference
in
the
budget
itself
right
budget
itself
is
58.
in
the
very
bottom.
It
says
estimated
revenues
of
all
funds
is
104
million,
570
000.,
page
58.
D
F
F
I
wish
we
would
have
had
an
updated
one
today,
yeah,
you
know,
Council
chair
I
mean
we
need
to
get
an
updated
one,
so
we
don't
need
a
Thursday
or
Friday.
We
need
it.
Today.
Is
this
the
budget.
This
is
the
most
of
the
most
important
thing
in
the
city
and
for
us
to
have
a
presentation
and
not
have
an
actual
copy.
I
I
F
F
Anyway,
the
estimated
revenues
is
104
million,
plus
in
the
Appropriations
is
118
million,
which
puts
it
at
13
million
13
14
million
dollars
short.
What
does
that
mean.
A
It's
this
convoluted
thing
with
the
water,
because
some
of
your
water
expenses
that
are
actually
part
of
this
huge
projects
that
we
work
on
here,
like
your
l42
and
your
l43
projects,
actually
start
in
expense
and
they
show
as
expense
until
they're
finished,
and
then
they
roll
up
into
Capital
asset.
So
it
it's
just
it's
kind
of
hard
to
explain.
But
that's
what
happens.
F
L
F
A
F
A
F
F
F
A
F
It
better
be
in
layman's
terms
because
I'm
a
Layman
and
it's
as
far
as
this
goes
I'm
just
looking
at
the
numbers,
and
it
I
said
well
this
all
this
stuff
didn't
doesn't
add
up
it's
13
million
dollars.
It
was
13
million
dollars
worth
of
water
projects.
That's
a
a
lot
of
water
projects.
I
mean
that's
a
lot.
D
F
D
That's
we
borrowed
I
think
it
was
27
million
dollars.
Just
for
that
look.
J
B
M
H
D
F
A
F
A
A
The
other
Pages
as
well,
though,
you've
got
your
water
tapping
installed.
You've
got
your
water
media.
Reading,
install
all
those
total
up
to
the
44
million.
This
particular
page,
your
water
debt
retirement,
is
only
the
2.5
million,
but
the
rest
of
them.
If
you'd
go
back
to
oh,
they
start
at
page
52,
actually
51..
A
I
B
In
councilman,
just
for
your
peace
of
mind,
obviously
we're
you
know
you're,
bringing
it
up
right
now,
just
because
the
controller
emails
it
to
us
doesn't
mean
that
it's
the
end
all
be
all
because
we're
going
to
ultimately
vote
on
this
Tuesday.
So
if
it's
not
to
your
comfort
level,
that's
where
you'll
be
able
to
bring
up
additional
questions
or
maybe
email
her
back
or
all
of
us
back
additional
questions
you
may
have,
but
I
I
do
see
your
point.
I
do
understand
your
question
and
I
agree.
I
would
like
to
know
too
the
clarification.
B
B
F
You
know,
we've
had
different
departments
come
before
us
and
then
basically
the
comptroll
of
a
stone
under
the
bus
for
every
meeting,
because
sometimes
she
was
there
by
herself
answering
the
questions
for
the
different
departments,
and
sometimes
the
department
head
was
sitting
there,
but
all
the
questions
were
directed
to
her
and
there
was
things
where
Personnel
were.
Added
programs
were
added
placeholders
and
every
council
member
up
here
at
one
time
or
another
said
this
is
a
fluid
budget.
F
F
And
then,
when
that
comes
up
it's
up
to
city
council
to
say:
hey,
no
or
yes,
you
know
my
thing
is:
don't
even
put
that
placeholder
in
there
when
that
comes
up
it
comes
to
city
council,
then
we
could
say:
hey
we'll,
we'll
approve
it
because
in
during
one
one,
during
a
closed
session
that
we
had
on
Personnel
there's
some
other
things
talked
about
during
that
meeting
that
we
can't
talk
about.
One
of
them
was
the
budget
and
a
director
said
city.
M
F
B
A
A
Can
clarify
this
very
easily
because
I'm
the
one
who
would
ask
for
placeholders
I
know
in
the
past,
it's
very
common
for
you
to
come
and
ask
for
a
budget
amendment
and
the
reason
that
I
don't
prefer
budget
amendments
is
because
that
takes
from
the
fund
balance.
Okay,
we
do
have
to
come
to
you
and
request
that
we
can
spend
that
money
and
if
it's
within
the
budget,
then
we
don't
have
to
ask
for
it
to
come
out
of
the
fund
balance
you're
still
going
to
have
the
final
say
yes
or
no.
F
A
F
B
Let
me
clarify
it
so
this
was
one
of
the
questions
I
had
coming
up
and
the
concerns
I
had
coming
up
in
in
myself,
and
you
controller
talked
about
that.
Do
you
mind
if
I
clarify
that?
Okay,
so
what
you're
referencing
there
councilman
and
it
was
a
concern.
I
had
my
notes
here
to
ask
about
I've
already
had
a
conversation
with
you
comptroller
in
regards
to
some
placeholders
that
were
asked
for
at
five
percent
for
different
directors,
and
this
would
do
with
respect
to
directors
and
and
different
leaders
in
different
departments.
B
As
as
you
are
aware,
I
was
against
that
I'm
I'm
against
any
type
of
placeholder
like
that,
because
it
at
that
particular-
and
this
is
where
you're
referencing
their
councilman.
Because
then
what
happens
is
if
the
mayors,
the
administration,
is
asking
for
a
five
percent
placeholder,
which
becomes
at
the
discretion
of
the
mayor.
B
So
if
the
mayor
decides
for
a
particular
director
they're
going
to
give
them,
let's
just
throw
out
three
percent
raise,
they
can
because
they
had
a
placeholder
up
to
five
percent
I'm
against
that
and
I
was
against
that
and
will
continue
to
be
against
that
because
to
me
I'd
rather
have
when
the
mayor
comes
back
and
I'm
going
to
use
you
as
an
example
controller
the
controller.
The
mayor
comes
back
and
says
you
know:
I
want
to
give
the
controller
a
four
percent
range
to
me.
B
I
want
to
have,
because
we
are
the
budgeted
budgetary
part
of
the
council.
I
want
to
be
able
to
have
have
it.
No
offense
right,
I,
don't
say
at
my
discretion,
but
the
mayor
comes
in
and
says:
hey
I
want
to
give
the
controller
a
four
percent
raise,
because
x,
y
and
z
I
want
to
be
able,
based
on
our
position
for
us
as
a
body
make
that
determination.
Yes,
we
will.
B
The
way
it's
ran
in
right
now
is
when
we
budget
the
five
percent-
and
this
is
what
you're
referencing
there
when
we
budget
the
five
percent
towards
the
controller's
office
and
administration.
Slash
mayor
decide
to
give
three
four
five
percent
to
whatever
particular
director
at
that
point,
based
on
my
understanding
of
it,
it's
at
the
mayor's
discretion.
I
personally
have
a
problem
with
that.
A
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
there
is
a
five
percent
leeway
in
the
salaries,
because
at
the
end
of
the
year
a
lot
of
our
employees
have
the
have
the
option
of
being
able
to
buy
out
some
of
their
vacation
time,
some
of
their
excess
sick
time,
and
that
has
never
actually
been
put
anywhere.
I
believe
it
may
have
been
put
into
extra
like
confidence
compensation
or
they
put
it
under
benefits
and
this
time
I
put
it
all
under
salaries.
So
that's
another
placeholder
right
now.
B
B
That
the
way
I
and
again
I'm,
not
speaking
on
behalf
of
the
whole
Council
I'm
speaking
on
behalf
of
myself
I,
my
preference,
would
be
the
particular
director
of
administration
comes
back
to
city
council
I'm,
even
willing
to
set
a
special
study
session
and
say
say
you
know
what
the
the
building
department
needs.
An
extra
I
don't
know
ten
fifteen
thousand
dollars
whatever
it
is.
For
that.
At
that
point,
we
will
ask
the
questions
and
make
a
decision.
B
A
I
B
If,
if
there's
a
placeholder
for
five
percent
for
any
directors
or
anybody
in
charge,
it
gives
the
the
leeway
for
administration
to
be
able
to
do
that
I
get
why
they
would
want
it.
Don't
get
me
wrong,
but
in
our
position
as
a
council
we
are
the
checks
and
balances
of
the
city,
and
then
we
do
checks
and
balances
to
Administration
administration
because
it
went
back
you
guys
with
the
employees,
etc,
etc.
I
don't
want
that
leeway
and
availability
person,
Council.
G
F
Absolutely
if
somebody
where
the
Departments
comes
to
us
and
says
hey,
you
know
they
want.
You
know
a
placeholder
for
this
particular
thing
and-
and
we
put
it
in
there
that
that
could
be
used
for
all
all
kinds
of
different
things.
It
doesn't
have
to
be
used
for
what
they're
asking
it
for,
but
if,
if
it's
something
that
they
think
we're
definitely
going
to
approve,
why
not
just
ask
us
later
and
if
they're
sure
we're
going
to
approval,
prove
it,
then
why?
Why
tie
our
hands
with
this
amount
of
money?
B
Money
up
the
only
thing,
I,
don't
know
when
controller
answer
just
to
clarify
for
myself
and
councilman
Wenzel
I,
don't
believe
it
could
be
used
like
that.
So,
let's
use
hypothetically
the
five-star
Gadget
that
the
police
department
wants
I,
don't
believe
if
we
give
them
a
placeholder
of
44
000
for
that
particular
Gadget
and
that's
without
regard
to
whether
you
like
it
or
don't
like
it.
Let's
presume
you
were
okay
with
it,
I
don't
believe
they
could
just
automatically
take
that
44
000
and
decide
to
use
it
for
I.
Don't
know.
A
Why
we
put
things
in
the
specific
general
ledger,
account
numbers
so
just
for
instance,
if
we're
putting
money
again
into
Contract
Services,
even
if
there's
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
Contract
Services,
we
can't
use
that
you
see
all
the
claims.
You
approve
all
the
claims
before
they
get
paid.
That's.
F
A
little
different
though
Contract
Services
and
then
something
a
gadget
or
something
else,
that's
that's.
Those
are
apples
and
oranges.
Basically,
I
mean
it's.
My
my
suggestion
is
that
we
remove
all
the
placeholders
that
are
requested
in
this
budget.
You
know
and
and
all
the
new
positions
created,
except
for
the
the
Eaton
Center
the
director
I
mean
that
we
can.
We
could
deal
with
each
one
individual
as
they
come
to
us,
is
now
we're
approving
all
these,
and
not
one
of
us
could
tell
us
all
of
them.
F
I
F
B
Do
it,
but
just
to
be
fair,
though,
and
again
I'm,
just
using
a
devil's
advocate
here,
just
to
be
fair
on
that
where
Administration
comes
in
from
and
I'm
just
saying,
there's
a
point
of
view.
If
we
put
a
placeholder
for
water
bottles,
they
can't,
if
it's
more
than
fifteen
hundred,
they
can't
spend
that
until
they
come
back
to
us.
So
I
I
see
both
sides
but
I'm
more
in
agreement
not
to
put
placeholders,
definitely
not
for
salaries,
definitely
not
for
salaries.
For
me,.
F
A
That's
that's
something
that
I
did
and
and
I
understand
that
that's
something
that
hasn't
been
done
in
the
past
and
in
the
past
it
has
been
where
they
come
and
they
ask
for
a
budget
amendment
I
had
requested
that
we
don't
do
that.
Only
because
I
don't
like
to
take
money
out
of
the
fund
balance,
but
if
that's
the
way
that
you
would
prefer
it
I'll
gladly
change
that
and
put
everything
back
too
I.
F
H
C
A
H
And
thank
you
and
so
miss
king,
it's
very
informative.
So
the
the
reason
use
what
you
call
a
placeholder,
what
I'll
call
a
budget
but
budget
that
amount.
So
let's
say
the
additional
employee
in
Recreation.
I
I
H
Instead
of
calling
that
a
placeholder
call
that
you're
budgeted
because
then
that
money
doesn't
come
from
general
fund
once
the
person's
hired-
let's
say
it's:
it
costs
double
that
for
the
employee.
That's
that
much
money
comes
now
got
out
a
general
fund
on
the,
but
it
comes
out
of
recreation
to
begin
with
correct.
H
Well
forget
that
yeah,
but
let's
say
it's
for
another
police
officer
or
another
police
position,
fire.
A
H
H
That
additional
person,
employee.
A
H
Competitive
hard
to
so
yeah,
that's
I'm,
remember
I'm,
a
lawyer.
We
twist
words
around,
but
yeah
call
that
a
you
know
the
proper
way
or
another
way
to
budget
for
that
expense.
Yes,
all
right!
Thank
you.
F
B
It
whatever
you
want
to
argue
whatever
you
want
to
call
it.
You
know,
on
your
end,
we
do
need
a
deputy
controller
I,
totally
get
it
and
you're
going
out
there
trying
to
find
a
deputy
controller
again.
I
totally
get
it.
But
from
your
perspective,
you
want
to
put
a
dollar
I:
don't
have
the
dollar
figure
I
think
it
was
like
70
or
80.
B
And
and
that's
where
it's
a
little
bit
more
problematic
for
me
because
to
me
I'd
rather
have
nothing
right.
Now
you
go
out,
you
say:
I
need
to
pay,
I,
don't
know
70
000
to
Deputy
controller,
Mrs
Ahmad,
let's
say
hypothetically,
then
the
temperature
point
will
make
a
decision.
Whether
approving
or
not
approving
your
concern
was
they.
It
puts
you
very
little
time
to
be
able
to
hire
somebody.
You
may
lose
that
person.
B
F
You
know
I
agree
with
that.
Each
you
know
in
in
this
budget,
there's
there's
at
least
a
couple.
New
positions
that
were
either
recommended
or
put
on
placeholders
and
I
would
rather
have
each
one
get
dealt
with
individually,
because
sometimes
you
know
maybe
they
say
they
want
to
say.
The
I.T
department
needs
a
a
new
person
full-time
person.
Well,
maybe
we
could
talk
about
it
in
a
study
session
or
whatever
say
hey.
Maybe
we
can
get
away
with
a
part-time
person.
F
B
So
administration's
Viewpoint,
sometimes
on
this,
is
we
don't
want
the
council
to
micromanages
I
get
it,
but
on
the
other
hand,
again
it's
checks
and
balances.
It's
a
part
of
our
job
to
make
sure
we
do
checks
and
balances
over
Administration
just
to
make
sure
because
we're
the
budgetary
part
of
the
City,
obviously.
A
I
G
Yeah
go
ahead,
councilman.
Thank
you,
Council
chair,
so
I
know
when
I
was
absent.
The
other
meeting
I
did
send
a
few
items
to
the
council.
Chair
and
I.
Understand.
Couple
of
on
private
Administration
will
take
care
of
them,
but
I
still
would
like
to
I
mean
I
will
leave
it
to
my
colleagues
whether
they
approve
her
or
not,
to
have
the
amount
I
requested
for
another
legal
advice
and
something
for
the
cable
from
Peg.
So
councilman.
B
If
you
don't
mind
for
those,
maybe
in
the
audience,
I'm
not
familiar
with
them,
maybe
the
councilman's
they've
forgotten
them
just
do
them
item
by
item
what
they.
G
Were
so,
the
first
item
is
request:
I
wanted
50
000
just
for
a
third
legal
advice.
Second
legal
advice,
just
in
case
if
we
need
it
sometimes
for
the
council
members
and
the
second
one
I
would
like
to
all
the
council
members
to
have
some
kind
of
maybe
10
minutes
every
month
on
cable
TV
showcasing
anything
they
want
to
showcase
in
the
city
whether
we
need
to
hire
somebody
else
for
the
administration
or
whether
we
need
to
figure
out.
G
Maybe
if
she
has
the
time
to
do
it,
we
can
allocate
this
money.
If
we
need
it,
we
need
it.
If
we
don't
need,
it
then
goes
back
to
so
so.
B
Councilman,
so
the
one
for
the
attorneys
was
30
000
to
ask
fifty
fifty.
A
G
B
G
B
B
No,
so
what
he's
with
the
councilman's
referencing
is
to
be
able
to
do
a
best
way.
I
could
give
you
fairly
similar
what
happens
in
Dearborn,
whereas
some
Council
numbers
go
up
and
maybe
introduce
different
businesses
in
the
city
or
different
whatever
and
with
the
council.
Member
was
my
conversation
with
them.
What
he's
referencing
is
we
may
need
additional
human
resources
in
the
media
or
video,
etc,
etc.
To
be
able
to
do
this,
so
therefore,
it'll
be
an
additional.
G
J
Council
chair,
okay,
so
I
disagree
with
okay,
so
those
positions
when
you
go
out
you
post
some
of
the
positions,
the
ones
that
we
requested.
We
need
to
put
something
under
our
salary,
so
we
can't
have
a
place
for
we
have
to
put
a
placeholder,
because
if
we
do
hire
you
know
we
we
put
something
out
higher.
J
You
can't
just
like
wait,
say:
okay,
you
know
what
let
me
go.
Wait,
two
weeks
or
whatever
a
week
special
meeting
whatever
you
guys,
gonna
do
to
come
back
and
say:
okay,
you
know
we're
going
to
prove
you
to
do
this
position,
so
we
do
have
to
put
them
in
as
a
placeholder,
because
we
do
need
a
deputy
comptroller
and
the
two
positions
that
we
we
listed.
We
have
we
need,
then
that's
why
we
want
to
budget
for
it.
J
So
we
know
as
an
Administration
when
we
do
post
that
we
post
for
that
amount
instead
of
saying,
okay,
you
know
what
hold
on
we
got
a
post
about.
We
don't
know
what
the
amount
is
so
hold
on.
Let's
go
back
and
check
with
the
council,
so
that's
why
we
do
it
right
now
when
we
budget,
for
it
I
mean
it's
been
done
like
that
forever.
J
J
B
Okay,
so
which
positions
are
they
that
you
would
have
to
have
and
at
what
price?
Well
in.
J
B
J
I
mean
no,
no,
it's
not
up
to
us.
So
again,
just
let's
wait
till
everything
is
done
over
here
with
all
these
Council
meetings
that
we
keep
having
like
it
seems
like
we're
having
one
or
two
meetings.
You
know
every
every
week
so
or
study
sessions.
You
know
once
we
air
all
of
them
out
then
we'll
go
back.
We
can,
like
you
said,
do
a
budget
amendment,
but
let's
figure
out
what
what
we
have
right
now.
J
So
I
mean
this
is
ridiculous.
We
need
people
to
come
and
work
instead
of
going
on
cable,
TV
and
doing
certain
things
you
know
like
I,
said
we're.
We
have
a
lot
of
things
right
now
in
the
queue
to
put
to
air
on
our
cable
channel,
but
we
do
need
the
personnel.
B
B
So
the
councilman
is
referencing.
Here
is
if
we,
as
council
members,
wanted
an
additional
opinion
from
like
the
corporate
right.
Now
we
have
a
Corporation
Council
which
by
Charter
represents
the
city
council
and
the
administration.
The
council
member
is
mentioning
here.
Councilman
Ahmad
is
mentioning
here,
he'd
like
to
have
a
budget
of
an
additional
attorney
up
to
30
000
for
Council
Members
specifically,
was
it
50,
I'm?
Sorry,
fifty.
J
Members
specifically
Council
chair,
so
I'm,
sorry
again,
you
know
before
we
had
contract
attorney
that
wasn't
actually
working
for
the
city,
but
we
have
an
attorney
right
now
that
works
directly
with
the
city,
so
I,
don't
know
why
we
need
an
additional
fund.
You
know
we,
we
do
have
an
attorney
that
handles
I
mean
strictly
City
business,
so
he's
an
attorney
that
works
for
the
city
he's
paid
by
the
city.
It's
not
a
contract
that
gets
paid
by
the
by.
G
B
Like
to
have
it
so
and
and
that
and
just
give
you
a
little
bit
history
a
little
while
back
I
know
the
mayor
and
former
Council
chair,
we're
all
for
an
additional
attorney
and
if
you
come
here,
I
was
against
it
done
I'm
still,
not
all
for
it
right
now,
I
I,
you
know,
I
I,
think
it's
money
that
doesn't
have
to
be
spent
I.
B
I
know
this
is
not
referencing
the
current
Corporation
Council,
but
to
me
the
way
I
always
looked
at
it
back
then
I'm
looking
at
it
now,
we'll
continue
to
look
at
it.
If
you
feel
the
Corporation
Council
is
not
objective
enough,
then
to
be
at
that
particular
Point.
Instead
of
just
getting
an
additional
attorney,
this
I'm
giving
you
my
personal
opinion
at
a
another.
Fifty
thousand
dollars.
No,
instead
to
me
I,
would
focus
and
Zone
in
on.
B
Let's
get
rid
of
this
attorney,
if
he's
not
being
objective
to
us
as
council
members,
because
the
attorney
and
I
know
the
attorney
may
be
listening
and
I'm.
Okay
with
that
has
to
be
objective
to
both
Administration
and
Corporation
Council.
If
you
feel
you're,
not
getting
your
answers
or
you
don't
think
you're
getting
objective
answers
that
particular
point.
You
got
to
get
with
other
council
members
and
maybe
address
whether
that's
the
right
attorney
for
us.
G
F
F
F
I
H
D
I
D
I
got
Council
two
things.
The
first
one
is
I.
I
can
understand
having
a
placeholder
for
a
position,
because
when
you
interview
someone,
you
got
to
start
with
a
salary
somewhere
I
mean
you
guys
are
in
business
to
hire
people.
You
have
other
people
you
when
you
interview
somebody,
say
I'm
going
to
start
you
at
this
salary
how's,
you
know,
and
then
you
negotiate
from
there,
but
you
got
to
give
you
got
to
give
them
something.
To
start
with,
so
I
can
understand
a
placeholder.
Maybe
we
can
lower
the
placeholder
down
to
70.
D
I
I'm,
just
I'm,
just
throwing
numbers
out
there
because
I
really
don't
know
I
know
the
going
rate
for
comptrollers
and
and
HR
directors
are
in.
Other
cities
are
through
the
roof.
Okay,
and
as
far
as
our
legal
thing,
we
can
always
at
a
count,
put
a
resolution
in
at
any
time
say:
we'd
like
to
have
hire
an
attorney
for
no
more
than
fifty
thousand
dollars
at
any
time
during
the
year.
You
could
do
that
and
we
did
that
one
time.
D
D
D
H
Let's
let
the
councilman
go
next
quickly
and
I'll
defer
to
the
mayor,
because
I
would
ask
Miss
King
my
seat.
May
corrected
me
I.
He
called
you
miss
cook
earlier
she's,
our
fifth
or
sixth
comptroller
I.
Remember
David
sabuda,
for
example.
Our
interim
come
to
alert
because
I
knew
him
in
Lansing
when
I
was
State,
Rep
he's
a
CPA.
He
was
excellent
and
then
we
had
a
comptroller
after
Mr
sabuda,
who
was
she
was
from
West
Bloomfield,
she
didn't
say
and
so
I'm
asking
Miss
king.
H
Would
that
make
your
your
job
simpler,
the
the
remaining
the
doing
things
with
the
what
I
call
a
budget
in
advance
or
placeholder
system.
A
A
I
do
understand
where
the
council
board
members
are
coming
from
and
that
it
has
been
in
the
past
that
you
do
not
put
placeholders
and
you
actually
comment
and
request
a
budget
amendment
which
has
been
you
know:
I
I,
just
don't
like
the
budget
amendment
only
because
I
think
that
they
have
it
in
their
mind
and-
and
it's
like
well,
if
I
go
over,
I
can
just
go
ask
for
a
budget
amendment
and
I.
H
When
mayor
Aleco
was
alive,
our
fairly
long
time
control
or
a
woman
in
her
Name
Escapes
me
and
I,
don't
need
her.
H
G
B
B
J
There
was
I,
don't
have
a
lesson.
B
A
A
Yeah
I
believe
one
was
55.
Here
Comes,
Mariana
Council.
F
Chair,
yes,
oh
and
the
paralegal
this
this
budget
has
to
be
approved
next
Tuesday,
correct
I,
say
we
just
go
on,
as
we
just
said,
no
placeholders
for
for
any
positions.
F
B
Well,
at
the
same
time,
though,
councilman
the
administration
is
run
by
the
administration,
and
it's
going
to
be
a
third
discretion
as
far
as
who
they
hire.
My
concern
is
I
just
want
to
make
sure
we're
we're
not
over
budgeting
and
giving
them
a
free
will
to
hired
and
and.
B
B
Confidential
secretary,
we
do
need
a
deputy,
the
director
in
the
Comptroller's
office
in
control.
We
do
need
that
and
in
the
I.T,
with
all
different
editions
that
we're
doing
we
do
need
that
I'm.
Okay,
with
that
human
resources,
based
on
our
conversation
with
the
administration,
I,
wasn't
familiar
with
the
particular
position
before,
because
it's
a
new
position
but
I
understand
the
logic
behind
it.
Where
I'm
against
is
the
five
percent?
Well,.
F
B
F
A
We're
just
showing
you
the
list
of
the
Personnel
budget
or
the
personnel
and
how
many
individuals
we
have
under
each
department
and
what
their
budgeted
salary
is.
A
A
A
B
You
know
I
I
know:
councilman,
we've
got
to
keep
in
mind.
You've
got
I,
think
it's
340,
some
344
employees,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
this
the
city
of
Dearborn
Heights,
is
the
biggest
employer
out
of
anybody
in
the
city
of
German
Heights.
So
you
might
need
a
little
bit
more
than
just
one
HR
director
and
an
assistant
I
I.
There
I
have
no
problem.
I
I,
like
I,
said
I
just
have
a
problem
with
a
five
percent.
G
A
A
J
E
O
O
B
B
D
K
D
B
B
B
D
A
A
Because
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
timing,
thing
I
can't
have
somebody
walk
in
and
know
everything
yesterday
it's
a
timing
thing.
They
need
to
learn
that
they
need
to
get
their
feet
wet,
they
need
to
get
up
to
speed
and
they
need
to
know
what
it
is
that
we
actually
do.
You
can't
just
get
on
the
ground
running
in
this
case.
I
L
A
A
B
So
so
at
this
point
in
general,
most
of
the
body
again,
this
is
not
the
final
vote,
but
they
want
those
positions
to
stay
on
the
budget,
not
approving
it
right
now
stay
on
the
budget
for
final
vote
on
Tuesday.
Second
item
attorney
for
the
council
members
I'm
I'm
in
general,
I
I-
don't
need
that
at
it.
But
what's
your
guys's
position
on
this
add.
D
Members
that
that
is,
oh
man,
I
was
for
it
once
before,
but
I
can
see
why
we
can
do
that
at
any
time.
With
a
majority
vote
of
the
of
the
council
again,
we'd
have
to
do
a
budget
amendment
We'd
have
to
take
money
from
some
place
to
put
it
there.
So
there's
pros
and
cons
today,
no.
D
H
B
B
N
Just
wanted
to
also
add
it
might
be
a
good
idea
to
postpone
that
decision
until
Corporation
Council
is
here,
I,
don't
know
what
the
impacts
of
having
opposing
legal
opinions
would
be
for
the
city
again,
he
is
supposed
to
represent
the
city
as
a
whole,
including
the
council
members.
So
unless
there's
a
specific
issue
that
goes
against
the
administration,
it
is
unlikely
that
you
will
have
a
second
legal
opinion
other
than.
N
Attorney
now
and
he
has
to
hire
the
attorney
himself
so
again,
what
is
the
difference
between
using
him
and
the
pool
of
legal
counsel
that
we
already
have
because
remember
he's
not
alone,
we
have
a
water
legal
council.
We
have
a
labor
attorney,
so
there
are
already
lawyers,
various
lawyers
that
you
can
get
different
opinions
from
all
of
those
that
we
already
contract
with
so
again,
I,
don't
know
what
specific
skill
this
new
lawyer
would
have
that
we
don't
currently
have
either
a
contract
or
a
full-time
employee.
B
A
little
bit,
Mariana
and
and
maybe
the
councilman
may
or
may
not
be
comfortable
I,
don't
know
if
that's
his
objective,
but
in
the
past
the
reason
this
was
needed
and
I.
You
know
me
I'm
very
blunt
at
the
time
and
I'm
going
to
say
bluntly
more:
it
was
mayor
and
councilman
Ray
mosque
and
councilwoman
or
Council
chair
Denise
malinowski
felt
that
they
weren't
getting
objective
answers
from
an
attorney
for
the
city,
slash
city,
council,
and
thus
they
wanted
his
second
opinion.
But.
N
Of
but
it
was
objectivity
on
your
finances,
so
they
were
reviewing
again.
You
have
to
select
which
type
of
lawyer
do
you
need?
Do
you
need
a
financial
lawyer?
Do
you
need
a
labor
lawyer?
Do
you
need
a
water
and
sewer
lawyer,
which
type
of
lawyer
do
you
need,
because
one
person
won't
be
able
to
do
everything.
B
G
G
Well,
even
if
we
can
do
cable,
maybe
we
can
do
it.
Do
the
videos
make
it
on
Facebook,
City,
Facebook
or
Instagram,
or
whatever
I
mean
I,
would
love
showcase?
Our
city
show
some
positive
stuff.
We.
J
G
Sounding
like
no
no
different
studies
can
support
them.
Council
members,
they
can
showcase
anything
in
the
city
showcase,
whatever
they're
doing,
for
example,
councilwoman
Breyer.
She
does
a
lot
of
stuff
with
the
seniors
of
you
know
what
the
seniors
what's
going
on,
all
the
stuff
that
they
do
and
she
can
show
the
whole
city,
and
it's
like
a
welcoming
videos
to
our
city
to
show
exactly
what
we
offer.
What
we
have.
B
D
Yeah
she
gets
paid
well.
G
D
I
agree
with
that:
yeah
I'm,
fine,
because
you
know,
if
my
understanding,
for
the
longest
time
our
studio
was
supposed
to
be
a
available
for
things
of
that
nature.
Okay,
and
we
really
don't
have
a
studio
per
se
other
than
council
chambers,
but
it
would
be
nice
if
we
went
out
to
the
place
of
business
and
promoted
something
or
promoting
what
we
want
to
do
within
the
city.
I
agree
with
that.
G
B
So
why
don't
we
do
this
if
you're,
okay
with
it
councilman,
you
know,
obviously
Administration
is
hearing
this.
Let's
start
at
least
right
now
on
social
media
get
the
process
started
and
then
Administration
can
put
it
on
the
radar
to
maybe
move
forward
with
maybe
adding
additional
time
for
council
members
through
the
you
know,
video
and
all
that.
J
She's,
a
she's
for
every
every
meeting
that
we
have
here.
It
takes
your
hours
to
just
edit
one
meeting,
so
we
need
to
after
we
have.
We
have
accessible
amount
of
meetings
just
the
last
few
months,
so,
like
I,
said
we're
we're.
We
have
backlog
of
meetings
that
we
haven't
even
looked
at.
So
let's
just
see
what
happens
in
the
next
few
months
once
everything's
back
to
normal,
then
we
can
reassess
it.
J
We
can't
use
salaries,
there's
certain
talk
to
a
council
mascot
about
that
one
yeah
he'll
give
you
101
on
Tech
money.
You.
B
Just
that
was
a
question
we.
F
A
B
B
She
was
hired
for
a
position
as
an
HR
director
and
she's
moved
into
more
of
an
executive
position,
yes
with
the
administration,
taking
on
additional
tasks,
additional
responsibilities
and
with
that
being
the
case,
whether
it's
Administration
or
her
felt
she's
deserving
of
a
higher
pay.
This
is
not
the
final
approval
today,
because
something's
on
the
budget
doesn't
mean
it's
final
approved.
Final
approval
is
Tuesday.
J
We,
you
know,
like
I,
said
you
pay,
for
you
get
what
you
pay
for.
So
if
you
need
somebody
as
good
as
the
HR
Director-
and
you
know
you
guys
always
say
that
right
now,
we
we,
you
know
she's
doing
a
lot
more
than
we
brought
it
in
her
for
she's
doing
all
that
contract
negotiations,
she's
spending
weekends
going
over
contracts
yeah.
So
you
know,
like
I,
said:
there's
a
lot
of
contracts
in
here,
she's
doing
a
lot
more
than
what
the
position
that
we
brought
her
in
for.
F
A
A
Those
things
we
need
time
to
go
through
their
contract
and
see
what
can
we
give
them?
What
can
they
give
back?
This
is
a
negotiation.
This
isn't
just
a
one-sided
thing
where
your
attorney
is
going
to
come
in
and
go
oh
well.
They
want
this.
Let's
just
sign
on
the
dotted
line,
we're
paying
them
to
three
hundred
dollars.
They
don't
care,
we
care.
We.
A
K
B
J
Council
chair,
but
we've
never
had
anybody
train
any
employee
okay,
so
this
HR
Director
she's
really
experienced
in
training.
So
for
the
first
time
in
the
history
that
that
I've
known
Dearborn
Heights
that
never
had
training,
employee
training,
director
training,
you
know
customer
service
training.
So
this
director
is
actually
bringing
training
like
I,
said:
she's,
not
just
doing
HR
work,
she's,
doing
training
and.
A
F
K
A
F
B
B
How
many
I'm.
D
Looking
up
conference
of
Western,
Wayne
and
I'm,
looking
at
HR
directors
and
the
salaries
121
627.,.
D
D
That's
that's
the
maximum,
that's
that's
the
top
earners
and
the
percentile
is
a
hundred
and
one
thousand
four
hundred
twenty
nine
dollars.
So
I
I,
don't
know
what
you
get
for
those
I'm,
not
in
I'm,
not
into
being
a
director
of
HR
and
what
it
all
takes.
But
averages
I
need
you
yeah,
so
they
go
anywhere
between
90
and
127
thousand
dollars.
D
B
B
B
I,
don't
want
to
shut
it
down.
Okay,
we
have
our
are.
D
C
It
shouldn't
even
take
that
long,
but
I
appreciate
all
the
time
that
was
put
into
this
budget.
I
wish
I
would
have
had
more
input
when
it
came
to
my
department.
In
the
past,
the
administration
had
just
across
the
board
for
their
deputies.
I
know,
I
can't
do
anything
for
our
Union
employees,
but
it
would
have
been
nice
if
we
were
asked
how
valuable
we
think
we
know
our
our
people's
jobs.
I
was
not
included
in
anything
when
it
came
to
the
TPO
am
contract
to
explain
what
my
people
do.
C
Okay,
nor
was
I
included
in
anything
with
the
deputy
Clerk.
You
want
to
put
eighty
thousand
dollars
in
for
a
deputy
comptroller.
We
have
two
long.
We
have
a
deputy
clerk
that
her
position
is
just
as
important
as
a
deputy
comptroller.
You
have
a
deputy
Treasurer
who
runs
the
office
as
well
and
I.
Think
you
have
a
deputy,
Parks
and
Rec
director
I,
don't
know
what
their
wages
are
at,
because
they're
all
lumped
in
together.
B
Just
for
clarification,
ma'am
clerk
is,
is
a
lot
of
the
council.
Members
are
aware
when
the
budget
is
put
together.
There's
you
know
the
different
directors
come
in
with
the
asks
yes
for
the
administration,
and
they
come
in
asking
for
like
just
throw
a
number
of
a
hundred
thousand
dollars.
Sir,
if
you
don't
mind,
sir,
in
the
audience.
K
B
Right,
we'll
wait
for
you
until
you
come
back
from
the
bathroom.
So,
as
you
know,
the
different
directors
or
or
departments
will
have
asks,
let's
just
throw
a
number
of
100
000
for
different
things
that
they
need.
Administration
will
come
back,
no
we're
only.
Let's
just
do
80
000
this
year
and
then
you
come
back.
We
start
the
different
budget
meetings.
I'm
I'm
missing
something
here
where
what
part
that.
B
I
I
J
C
J
Have
I
mean
for
the
deputy
control?
It
has
to
be
an
accountant.
So
that's
that's
a
big
difference
again.
You
know
I
wish
it
would
have
been
brought
forward.
We
would
have
been
able
to
you
know
present.
You
know
present
it
better,
but
a
deputy
comptroller
has
to
be
an
account,
has
to
have
a
CPA
or
not
a
CPA,
but
an
accounting
degree.
Yeah.
B
B
I'm
gonna
go
on
a
limb
here
and
just
just
make
this
proposal
and
I
don't
know.
If
council
members
agree,
maybe
a
meeting
tomorrow
between
yourself
and
the
Comptroller
to
come
up
this
meeting
that
should
have
taken
place
way
back
when
it
didn't
take
place.
So
maybe
a
meeting
takes
place,
whether
with
you
controller,
you
with
the
administration,
come
up
with
a
number
email
us
and
let
us
know
this
is
our
proposal
and
that
we
will
go
ahead
and
decide.
B
One
right,
but
for
whatever
reason
it
didn't
happen,
we'll
move
to
plan
B
at
this
point,
if
you
could
meet
maybe
tomorrow
the
controller
slash
mayor's
office
administration
Etc
come
in
with
an
email
to
us
as
far
as
what
the
agreed
upon
proposal
is
to
the
budget,
and
then
by
that
point
we'll
have
whatever
debates
we
have
and
then
we'll
make
a
decision.
Thank
you,
but
please
include
in
there
what
the
current
pay
is
based
on
whatever
new
proposals.
Thank
you
clerk.
Any
other
announcements
from
Administration
by
chance.
E
We've
got
a
couple
things:
the
let's
see
the
e-course
Creek
commission
will
be
on
the
24th
at
6
pm
at
3335,
South,
Beach,
Daily
and
then
Thursday
at
7
pm.
We
were
having
a
special
guest
speaker,
Senator
Santana
will
be
with
us
and
that's
at
seven
o'clock
at
3335,
South
Beach,
Daily,
That's
Thursday.
E
H
F
F
H
I'd
just
like
to
thank
a
good
job
from
our
Chief
of
Staff
Mariana
Hernandez
and
from
our
comptroller
is
King,
and
you
know
the
council.
We
did
regarding
this
budget
and
I've
been
around
for
too
long,
and
this
is
the
the
most
detailed
budget
process
where
I
learned
a
lot.
H
F
Chair
just
like
to
add
on
that
quickly.
That,
briefly,
is
all
participants
have
participated
in
their
rain.
Garden
cleanup
get
a
complimentary
T-shirt
with
a
really
cool
design
and
sponsors
names
on
the
back.
Thank
you
does.
B
D
B
C
Have
to
we
haven't,
listened
to
I
mean
I
did
my
piece,
but.
F
D
O
Welcome
best
trapkowski
Columbia,
Street
Mr
Ahmad
in
the
past,
I'm,
not
saying
anything
that
you
know
about
doing
your
programs
or
anything
about
or
anything
like
that.
But
in
the
past
we
had
a
city,
cable
news
program,
all
right
and
a
lot
of
that
was
done
by
volunteers,
seniors
Volunteers
in
a
video
Club
where
they
would
go
out
and
videotape
whatever
restaurant
activity
or
event
that
they.
I
O
So
if
we
could
get
one
of
those
classes
restarted
through
the
recreation
department
or
through
the
cable
Department
like
we
used
to
have,
we
could
get
advertising
for
you
know
anybody
out
there,
but
if
you're
just
going
to
give
free
publicity
as
people
they
should,
they
have
the
ability
to
pay
for
that
they
can
advertise
on
some
of
the
channels
in
the
cable
channels.
O
Well,
that's
what
these,
what
these
senior
programs
did
too,
so
you
got
the
seniors
involved
through
the
recreation
department.
They
did
their
own
video
programs
and
they
were
aired
for.
Like
a
you
know,
a
15-minute
talk
show
or
a
15-minute
introduction
to
a
restaurant,
an
auto
shop
or
whatever
throughout
the
city,
but
it
was
an
activity
that
the
seniors
were
doing.
So
if
that
could
be
like
reinstated
in
one
of
the
senior
programs,
you
know
you
got
free
free
videographers.
O
The
only
thing
is,
you
would
have
to
supply
the
cameras
through
the
peg
fees,
which
I
believe
we
can
so.
But
the
cameras
are
not
cheap.
You
know
you're
looking
at
50,
60
70,
000
cameras,
you
know
at
the
low
end,
but
taking
the
time
to
edit
all
that
just
like
Angela
has
to
do
with
these
meetings
and
upload
them.
It's
the
uploading
time
it
takes
the
most
on
the
YouTube
and
stuff
like
that.
It's
not
just
you
know
so,
but
yeah
we
probably
do
need
some
extra
people.
O
I
B
It
thank
you,
Vince
I
I,
just
want
to
add
something
Vince
just
since
you're
on
that
subject.
I
want
to
personally
thank
Mariana,
because
our
video
techie,
who
does
a
great
job,
is
out
so
I
want
to
thank
Mariana
for
jumping
in
and
handling
there.
B
I
think
for
the
last,
like
two
three
four
meetings:
multiple
meetings,
so
thank
you.
So
we
can
do
the
budget
only
for
right
now,
you're
gonna
talk
something
on
the
budget
yeah,
sir
I.
Sir,
do
you
want
to
come?
I
just
want
to
clarify
so
I
give
you
the
right
amount
of
time
you
ask
for
an
extra
minute
and
I'll
give
it
to
you.
But
are
you
commenting
on
the
budget
item?
Are
you
commenting
on
something
else?
B
Okay,
so
I'll
call
you
at
the
end
all
right.
Thank
you.
Anybody
else
on
budget,
specifically
any
public
comments
on
the
budget,
specifically
in
the
audience.
Okay,
everybody
on
zoom
on
the
budget.
Specifically,
you
see
anyone
Madam,
Clerk,
okay,
so
at
this
particular
Point
go.
D
B
Okay
motion
made
by
councilman
mosque
and
seconded
by
councilman
constant
any
other
discussion
on
that
hearing.
None
all
in
favor,
please
State
aye
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
motion
carried.
We.
We
did
already
comments
from
Council
Members,
any
other
additional
announcements
Rihanna
from
the
administration.
Yes,.
N
Hello,
hello,
everybody
Nancy!
You
disappointed
me
this
time.
I
was
going
to
talk
about
yesterday,
no
about
Monday.
So
I
am
here
to
remind
you
all
that
on
Monday
we
have
another
public
hearing
about
the
Eagles.
Sorry
CRF
srf
loan,
which
is
a
way
for
the
city
to
get
up
we're
applying
for
35
million
dollars
for
water
and
sewer
project,
in
order
for
us
not
to
continue
to
have
to
sell
bonds
and
put
that
pressure
on
our
taxpayers
under
water
rates.
N
So
I
encourage
all
of
you
to
come
and
participate
Monday
at
6
pm
here
in
the
city
council
chambers.
Again,
if
we
get
this
type
of
low
interest
loans
that
can
be
forgiven
after
certain
amount
of
years
10
15
years,
depending
on
which
level
of
Burden
you
have
as
a
city,
we
are
qualified
as
an
overburdened
City,
so
it
could
be
exempt
after
10
years.
So
again,
I
just
want
to
encourage
everybody
to
come
and
participate.
N
N
To
go
back
to
your
advice,
yes,
I
wish
we
had
more
cable
people,
but
there
are
other
priorities
that
we
need
to
emphasize
for
the
city
that
are
more
important,
like
hiring
tpoe
office
officers,
police
officers,
accounting
people.
These
are
positions
that
we've
struggled
with
filling
for
years.
We
are
working
with
some
of
the
universities
right
now
to
get
some
interns
to
come
and
work
on
this
capacity
with
cable
programming,
so
hopefully,
next
year,
we'll
get
some
more
movement
with
that.
N
Our
Ordinance
Department
also
initiated
their
internship
program
with
some
of
the
high
school
students
for
the
summer
time.
So
this
summer,
you're
going
to
be
seeing
a
lot
of
interns
walking
around,
but
definitely
we
could
use
resources
from
our
schools
and
our
seniors
much
more
in
the
city
right
now.
It's
just.
It
also
takes
time
to
coordinate
it
and,
as
you
keep
hearing
we're
all
wearing
many
hats
and
we
don't
have
enough
people
to
coordinate
it,
so
we
are
working
towards
it.
It's
just
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time.
B
Thank
you.
Okay,
at
this
point,
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
go
to
public
comments.
Whoever
would
like
to
have
a
public
comment.
Come
on
up
Sir.
You
will
have
three.
M
K
K
K
You
need
a
police
officer
down
there,
especially
with
the
bar
Robin
Dale
bar
over
there
on
a
corner,
okay
and
then
my
other
comment
is
the
street
lights
I've
been
on
about
the
street
lights
for
two
years
already
to
have
something
done
that
they
tell
me
called
where
the
DPW?
Okay,
not
yeah,
DPW,
not
DPW,
but
DTE
they're
not
doing
nothing
on
it.
You
got
a
light
by
Maritime
Gas
Station,
two
two
things
are
holding
in
that
pole.
The
wires
are
exposed
across
the
street.
K
No,
no
on
Warren,
Avenue
right
down
before
golly,
there's
and
and
right
on
beach,
daily,
there's
a
light,
leaning
and
that
and
you
got
what
gets
me
you're
SP
you're
spending
all
that
money
on
what
he
called
on
and
Warren
Valley.
You
got
curbs
that
are
broken.
Somebody's
gonna
get
hurt
in
that
you're,
not
cut
you!
K
Don't
care
about
your
lights,
a
lot
of
them
need
painting,
because
that's
all
you
got
out,
there
is
primer,
it
looks
like
crap,
okay
and
that
and
that's
one
comment
and
the
other
comment
is
you
need
to
straighten
whatever
you
give
to
somebody
permits
or
whatever,
to
put
in
a
building
I'm
very
lucky
that
I'm
alive
and
me
my
wife?
Okay,
because
these
people
push
lucky
I
use
my
head
and
and
and
I
told
my
wife
to
write
a
check
because
I
could
always
stop
the
check.
K
I
I
ain't
gonna
make
no
comment
took
on
that
until
I
I
have
attorney
right
now
and
everything
else:
okay,
because
they
try
to
they
cash
the
check
with.
What's
what
do
you
call
it
from
Detroit
I'm,
not
naming
the
company,
but
anyway
the
and
I
got
to
turn
money,
and
that
was
stopped
okay
but
anyway,
and
then
they
followed
me
also
not
too
long
ago
to
Arby's
restaurant
I
came
out
me
my
wife
and
they
followed
me
lucky.
K
He
said
I
want
to
talk
to
you
and
I
says
I,
don't
want
to
talk
to
you
and
I
took
off
the
other
way
and
I
made
a
police
report,
but
I
will
get
into
that
I'm.
Not
saying
no
comments.
I
get
my
things
straightened
out.
You
cannot
give
a
piece
of
paper
to
somebody
to
go
in
the
office.
They
took
all
that
stuff
out
of
the
office.
Okay
and
that
watch
what
you,
what
you
give
out:
okay,
okay,
that's.
H
I
J
You,
sir,
also
chair
any
other.
Yes,
so
just
for
for
Warren.
Actually
we
have
DTE
is
putting
another
proposal
to
update
all
the
all
the
lights.
So
right
now,
with
the
lights
that
we
have.
Currently
you
there's
nothing
you
can
do
with
those
you
have
to
take
them
out,
replace
them,
because
when
they
were
when
they
did
those
many
many
many
years
ago
there
was
no
spare
and
those
were
specialty
lights.
They
thought
it
was
going
to
be
downtown
at
that
time.
J
B
M
Hello,
my
name
is
Margaret
king
I
live
here,
I
live
in
Dearborn
Heights
on
Mayfair
Street
I
have
been
attending
several
Council
meetings
and
hope
to
have
changes
made
to
and
around
our
schools.
My
dear
friend
lost
her
son
October
14
2022.
As
all
of
you
know,
I
am
personally
still
in
shock
that
this
had
happened.
Just
like
the
police
chief
said
at
the
Joey's
law
meeting.
M
You
always
you
can
always
say
no.
This
isn't
going
to
happen
to
me,
not
my
family.
Well,
it
did.
It
happened
to
my
friend
and
the
city
that
we
grew
up
in.
The
reason
I
am
here
today
is
to
follow
up
on
some
items
that
had
that
was
discussed
at
previous
City
Council
meetings
and
at
Joe
Joey's
law
meeting
I
had
mentioned
about
the
crosswalk
paint
and
I
had
also
mentioned
about
the
reflective
tape
to
add
to
the
stop
signs
to
help
with
the
visibility
of
the
stop
signs
at
night
around
our
schools.
M
My
first
question
is:
have
the
crosswalks
paint
been
painted?
My
second
question
is:
has
the
reflective
tape
been
added
to
the
stop
signs?
I
have
looked
up
the
cost.
To
add
the
reflective,
the
reflective
tape
to
the
stop
signs
around
our
our
around
our
schools
in
D7
area,
the
cost
of
the
reflective
tape
per
roll
is
twenty
three
dollars
around
party
school.
There
has
23,
stop
signs,
polkas24,
ow,
best
Middle,
School,
hair,
17,
Annapolis
High
School
has
18
stop
signs.
M
The
total
of
the
stop
signs
between
the
D7
schools
comes
to
100,
stop
signs
at
23
dollars
per
roll
of
the
reflective
tape.
The
total
cost
would
be
roughly
177
dollars.
I
also
forgot
to
add
Madison
School
their
pet,
not
Petco
pet
p-e-x-e-o.
Adding
the
reflective
tape
to
the
stop
signs
provides
an
extra
visibility
at
night
150
to
200
feet
additional
visibility
for
the
driving
public,
reducing
potential
accidents.
M
M
J
M
B
L
L
F
B
O
F
I've
lived
in
the
district,
seven,
my
whole
life
and
I,
don't
remember
one
year
ever
where
the
crosswalks
were
painted,
and
this
is
the
the
one
whole
year
went
by
without
the
crosswalks
being
painted,
and
there
were
several
reasons
back
of
paint.
The
weather
and
we've
gone
through
a
whole
cycle
already
and
now
I'm
sure
it's
going
to
be
because
school
is
going
to
be
closing
and
they'll.
Do
it
in
the
fall,
but
I
mean
it's.
It's
I've
never
seen
it
done
before.
F
Remember
the
crosswalks
weren't
painted
I
might
be
wrong,
but
I
don't
think
I
am
I
mean
they
paint
them
every
year.
For
some
reason
they
didn't
paint
them
this
year.
That's
just
one
of
the
things.
I
mean
it's,
it's
nothing
really
serious
I
mean
it's
something
that
shows
you
where
to
walk
across
the
streets.
You
know,
because
we
don't
have
enough
crossing
guards
to
direct
the
kids.
When
you
have
just
a
line
going
across,
they
say
no
path
to
walk,
but
you
know
on
these
girls
behalf
I
mean
that's.
F
B
I'm,
sorry
yeah,
that's
the
clerk.
It's
in
June
sometime
I've
already
set
the
right
right.
We
did
set
a
date.
I
did
set
a
date
for
that
already.
I,
just
don't
know
off
the
top
of
my
head.
I
think
June
16th,
but
I
could
be
wrong
on
that
date.
It's
in
June
for
sure
we'll
be
posting
ahead
of
time.
Well,
I'm!
Sorry,
take
it
back.
Man
put
it
before
you
look
for
it.
No
I
know
why
you
may
not
be
able
to
find
it.
B
We
haven't
officially
set
an
ex
we've
penciled
in
a
date
but
I'm
making
sure
that
parties
that
need
to
be
there
are
going
to
be
there
in
the
mayor
and
I'll
just
say
different
departments
that
I
emailed
are
aware
of
the
situation
so
that
they
can
confirm
that
they're
going
to
be
there
and
then
we'll
go
ahead
and
hold
the
meeting.
But
I
already
have
a
date.
B
Well
again:
I'm
sorry,
June,
6th,
okay,
okay,
so
right
now
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
go
to
zoom
anybody
on
Zoom.
That
has
any
public
comment.
B
Move
to
adjourn
by
councilman
Muscat
seconded
by
councilwoman
Breyer
any
discussions
on
that
you're
hearing,
none
all
in
favor,
please
State
aye
aye
any
opposed
the
eyes
have
it
motion
carried.
Thank
you.