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The Dearborn Heights City Council Meeting taking place Tuesday, April 26th 2022 in the Dearborn Heights Council Chambers and via Zoom.

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All right good evening, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the regular meeting of the duban heights city council, which is being called to order at 6 07 p.m. Madam clerk, please take coral call.

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Dave abdallah.

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Hassan ahmad here moby doom here nancy breyer- that's currently absent robert constance here, ray muscat here, tom wenzel. Here, mr chair, you have a quorum. Thank.

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You, madam clerk, at this point, I'd like to ask councilman hassan ahmad to lead us in the pledge of allegiance.

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To the flag of the united.

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States of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible with liberty and justice for.

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All thank you very much. Councilman next, up on the agenda is agenda. Approval council, chair.

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Councilman was at the dearborn heights city council approved the agenda of the regular meeting of april 26 2022, as submitted.

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Support okay motion made by councilman b dunes, supported by councilman ahmad. Is there any discussion on that.

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Council, chair.

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Glad councilman.

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um I'd like to walk on an item on the agenda.

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Okay, well, what is it.

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Recording in progress.

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All right, thank you. um What I'd like to do is add this on it's a motion by councilman winslow to have city council direct corporation council.

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Chair, if you do okay, so I read it, I would have preferred to have gotten this ahead of time, but we'll go ahead and allow it to be added on. But let's pick where we're going to have this on before we go ahead and read it so we'll have a discussion at that particular point.

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Now to charity, if you remember, I did discuss this with right.

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But we didn't add it on to what I'm saying: okay,.

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What is it nine f, nine enough, okay, so motion to add uh the motion by councilman wenzel on n9f support all in favor, please state aye, aye, aye,.

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Can I can I.

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Read this just so that people know what it is: okay agenda: it's a motion by councilman wenzel to have city council direct corporation council through the council, chair to draft language for a charter amendment slash edition this charter. Amendment slash edition would prohibit any development on a warren valley. Golf course north of the clubhouse. We are requesting this language to be drafted by our next regular meeting. May 10 2022.

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The actions taken to expedite this matter should be done so that it could be given to the clerk's office no later than 5 pm august, 2nd 2022. This would ensure that this issue would be on the november ballot for the residents of dearborn heights to decide, support.

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Thank you. So this will be a 9 up. We'll have a discussion on that on 9m, okay, so next up on the agenda, uh we had agenda approval. There was a motion made by councilman beidoun, supported by councilman ahmad, with the edition by councilman wenzels any discussion on this all in favor, please state aye.

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Those opposed the eyes have it. Motion carried next up on agenda. Is item number four approval of the minutes. Councilman.

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Muscat, uh I moved into dearborn heights city council approved the minutes for the regular meeting of april 12 2022, as outlined in 4a.

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Support okay motion made by councilman muskat, supported by councilman constand. Is there any discussion on that hearing? None all in favor, please state, I aye those opposed the eyes have it motion carried next item on the agenda. Is item number four b recommendation. I'm sorry recommended motion of the dribble heights in regards to minutes sure councilman ahmad.

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I moved that the divine right city council approved the minutes for the special meeting of april 19 2022, as outlined in forward-p support.

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Okay motion made by councilman ahmed supported by councilman musk. Is there a discussion on that all right hearing? None all in favor, please state. I I those opposed the eyes have it. Motion carried next item on agenda is public hearings and common on agenda items only. You will have two minutes to speak. Anything that's on the agenda and please state your name. This city you live in, and the street you live on, we'll, go ahead and go in person first and if not we'll go ahead and move on to people on zoom.

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Anybody in person that needs to speak on agenda items all right. Seeing none! Oh.

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Where do you get the agenda.

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I'm sorry where.

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Do you get the agenda.

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Online and then they haven't met the tables there. No one knew yeah. Do you have something to speak on the agenda or public comments? Okay, no problem, all right! uh Madam clerk, is anybody on zoom on agenda items no hands up? Okay, nobody up just making sure nope. Okay! Next up is fund transfers and current claims. Chair, councilman.

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B dune, I move that to the euronight city council approve the current claim 6-1 through 6-97, as submitted support.

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Motion made by councilman b dunes supported by councilman musque. Is there any discussion on that hearing? None uh all in favor, please stay die hi. um Those opposed the eyes have it. Motion carried next item on the agenda is consideration of bids city engineer, deb bid award.

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Council, chair councilman.

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I move that the dearborn right city council award to bid for design work for the police, dispatch center renovation project to partners in architecture plc and the amount not to exceed forty three thousand four hundred dollars, in addition, authorized corporation council to prepare a contract and authorize the mayor and a clerk to sign a contract. Furthermore, authorize the mayor and comptroller to sign a necessary warrants and authorize a treasurer to issue payment from gl account number.

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101-300-981-000, as outlined in 7a, support.

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Okay motion made by councilman muskets, supported by councilman beitune. Is there any discussion on that um I'd.

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A little comment, uh first of all, thank you, mr dave, for bringing in this company or recommending this company um or yeah there. He is.

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I can tell you firsthand years ago when we were considering the combined dispatch, and I went over there, myself, uh the fire chief in dearborn and a couple of um hereby council members uh councilman mike cerini council president and and although I'm not an engineer like you, are to be able to look over there from an engineering perspective, but just at least visually.

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It was well put together well organized it had multiple spots, some for fire and then some for different cities, so you'd have each city would have at least in their particular case uh on the front, would be for police on the back would be for fire, and I noticed that that's this same company did the work over there and it was very very, at least, from my perspective, very impressive work that they did over there, so good job. Putting this together. Thank you.

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Also chair councilman go ahead. Yeah I'd also like to kind of echo everything you were seeing here. It's a new day in eurobond heights. I think this dispatch center was definitely much needed.

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I know I toured this with councilman musket as well, both in dearborn with councilman tom munso, and knowing that the work that you were able to put in this room, I can only imagine how up to speed it's going to be over at the dispatch center. So congratulations to you, mr dieben. I hope uh I look forward to seeing what's going to look like at the end.

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You think we can have mr deep just uh explain to the resident exactly what we're doing at the dispatch briefly.

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Yeah, that's fine. Thank.

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Thank you councilman, um so this project was um um it's been in the work for about a few years now it was decided that we are going to have our own dispatch center at the police department and, and um so an assessment was made of the existing facility and and what what the needs are to get us where we want to be so.

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There are some things that are mandated by uh by the emergency system, and so um um we evaluated the existing facility and and looked at best in class elsewhere, um and then this project was this is the design phase only so we have to work within um what we have, um and so we invited um professional companies that are specialized in this type of work um and then took them on the um site visit.

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So they actually, you know, reviewed the existing facility and and they were able to make good um recommendations as to what needs to be. We interviewed the operators, so we had them on site. They actually watched the facility interviewed the operator interviewed the fire, the police chief um and and asked for you know things that need you know like the angle of the uh the sun facing the windows and it affects on the employees, things of that nature.

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The shortcomings of the existing room, exits storage, break rooms, so it was, it was reviewed in detail before the the proposals were made and we had two proposals and this company- we, uh I you, know, checked their work elsewhere by the way. This is the same company that did the evaluation for the fire station. For us um they did an amazing job. Excellent work, not the first issue.

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Not the original design, no, no, the evaluation of the causes of the shortcomings, so this this is the company that actually evaluated it for us. So they did the actual evaluation, not the original designers, absolutely and that's their that's their type of work, that's what they do: emergency command centers.

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As the council chair indicated that I I didn't see that.

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It is impressive, you know the best I can remember, although I'm not a batman movie fan, but I.

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Don't know when I walked.

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In I felt like I was in a batman movie with like impressive technology galore all over the place, but they handle obviously the whole county right right. But the fact the point I'm making is the fact that this particular company put that together and designed.

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Yes, at a county high level, obviously, hopefully so.

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Within our budget within our budget, this company is going to give us the best that we can, that you know that will match our needs. I mean it's going to be designed for our use um and and will take us to the next level right. That's the intention anyway, and this is the design so we'll be back to you when the design is complete to to actually bid the construction and.

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One of the questions I had in here was, and you kind of answered it, but I just want a little bit, maybe a little bit more in depth in regards to how much input you had from the dispatchers in the police department, but also the fire department in all.

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Three departments.

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Had input as far as what they would like in the next.

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The one thing I know is the original: what we.

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It's dark, like noted,.

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So lighting was an issue. uh The elevated floor was an issue. I indicated the windows uh twin. Two treatment was an issue it still is. Today I mean to a point where they actually put um um bed sheets. uh In some instances um there are a lot of shortcomings in the facility so, but that was the intention behind having a walk through with the designers. We wanted the people I I didn't- want them to design and the vacuum. I want them to see.

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The facility see what we're facing so when they put a proposal together, they're actually basing it on real real life conditions, and this is what we have.

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So, based on your expertise, what do you foresee that will have the new dispatch center up and running roughly.

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So, with your approval um today, we should be able to ntp in order to proceed design, uh they're talking about 90 days design, and then we can bid it.

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So is it possible that by the end of the year we'll have a new dispatch.

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We will be pretty close: okay, great.

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One more thing: yes,.

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Mr d, when did you actually start to walk through and everything when was that when was that done when you guys walked through.

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I haven't started this.

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I'm going to say november, I have the original documents. Wanna say it was november. Okay, thank thank you.

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One more council.

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Okay, constantly.

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Well, I've looked over this briefly. It looks pretty good. um I can say that myself, and maybe one or two others sitting up here, fought for this.

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Some of us were against it, but the effort that I personally put into this um the fact that it's been going on for six months and we haven't had any you know updates on this I mean I would like to go on to the walk-through. I think the most important thing is to get the employees input for design. I know you did that, but I think that would be the most critical input.

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I said I I wish I could have came with the walkthrough, I mean we did walk throughs there. um We were actually uh one well, I'm not gonna mention any names, but myself and councilman muscat weren't treated too well when we went there and we fought for this and uh we got our way on it and uh I'd like to be more more involved and with updates.

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You know weekly or something or as often as possible, because we did fight for this, and uh I don't wanna say we deserved to know more, but I think we know it's okay. This is reasonable.

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I said sure mr deeb.

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Love the report. I see they worked on my big stuff, especially in macomb county, um but just looking at the beds there was, I mean it seems like we got a great deal. Are you comfortable.

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Yeah so, like I said earlier, this is the same company that did the evaluation for the fire station so and the intention our intention was was a mandatory walk through the mandatory walk through was to make sure that everyone was on the same level field. You you all get to see what we're after so you get to ask questions. We we show we showed everyone now as to why one was much more expensive. That company is always expensive. I've dealt with them before, but you know.

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A public bid and uh they bid on the same documents they walked, the walkthrough was conducted and they were. Thank you very much. Yes, sir.

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Just two questions, quick ones: um I've seen in the past and I'm not saying it's going to happen. Are we or do you foresee us? uh You know with you know, inflation being so expensive. Coming back and saying hey, you know we're gonna have to amend this and go up the next year, 10 15 20., okay,.

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Or the right, because if.

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Wood continues to go up. Material continues to go up, we're.

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Going to re-amend.

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So this is design work, so I'm I'm not I'm not as concerned about design work, because the fees are the fees now uh construction, because we had a set budget that was set before um um kovet, so we may have to play with the budget, but not the design part. So.

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We will design it now. I mean we can always uh um coach the designer the during the work, to pick less expensive options. If you wanted to make the budget or we can just work together and try to find out if we can find other sources because I'm hearing grants might be, this is grant eligible, so we might be able to.

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My second question is: this is not going to affect any of the dispatch employees while they're at work. Where will they be working well, construction and everything else is happening. That.

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Was one that was one of the questions that were brought up during the walk through? Yes, yes, so yeah we have spare, uh uh uh you know one or two, I believe positions that will be utilized during the construction. Thank you.

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Councilman chair thanks for coming, um can you think, can you tell the the residents or the viewers uh what the budget's going to be?

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You don't know.

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It's so fluid we I heard 400 uh that could be more because, because in the walk through other issues that were not taken into account, when the budget was put I.e, um the cooling system uh mechanic- I mean the cooling system- was not taken into account. We, it was assumed that the calling system was sufficient in that building. When the budget was put together, um there were many, not complaints but uh concerns um during the walk through that it is that's not the case. Another uh item was brought up large ticket items.

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I mean I'm not talking about small ticket items. Large ticket items we're the emergency generator. These are. These will have a great impact, so we have to walk through them. We'll work through these things we'll find out if we can make it work within our budget, if not we'll just have to amend it.

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Yeah and I'm sure, when uh I'm assuming when you're talking about the cooling, since it's a cooling system for the computers right, not air conditioning, yes,.

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Yes, yes, because the computers.

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Have to be cooled uh normally, with a inside the floor itself, it's an elevated floor or.

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Elevated floor and then the cabling, um the cabling of that existing floor. I believe the building is what 20 years old now a little over um 19.. So I'm hearing some of the uh um I t uh cabling, is not uh you know compatible with a newer technology, so we may have to do some updates on that. Is there tifa money available for this? The the tiffa person was with us, yes, good and- and we are.

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Well, you know and you're like the midas, you got the golden touch, everything you get your hands on, turns out really good and we're glad.

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To have you taken care?

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Okay, good, thank you, mr deep. Yes, sir all set okay. Thank you mr deep appreciate it job. Well done! Thank you.

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We did. We didn't vote on that. Okay, so motion. uh This is for item seven, a motion made by councilman musket uh seconded by councilman bay doon, all in favor, please stay die. Those opposed the eyes have it. Motion carried next item on the agenda is item 8a appointment of city, assessor council, chair councilman,.

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Muscat, I move that to dearborn heights city, concur with mayoral appointment for miss kimberly comer as a city, assessor effective june 1st 2022, in accordance with section 5.14 of the city charter, as outlined in 8. A.

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Motion made by councilman uh musket, supported by councilman ahmad. Is there any discussion on that constitution.

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Councilman, I personally worked with miss comer for about almost five years on tax appeal board, she's an outstanding assessor. uh She cares about the residents and she's always top-notch with the services yeah.

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And um I I for myself, I've also worked with her on the tax review board um a little bit with her, but uh mostly tony- and I tell you um I mentioned this in the past, our assessing department was usually very problematic and since this particular company's come on, they've done nothing but a great job and I've heard nothing but compliments from a lot of residents so good job to them and then they're very polite on the phone when people call them to ask them questions uh very accommodating, so I'm def personally as a person, I'm definitely in favor of this particular company, so good job.

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uh Councilman, god.

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And you know I know we're giving out kudos today. Hopefully, it's gonna be a short meeting, but I wanted to also agree uh kimberly with my experience with her has been outstanding. I've actually put four friends on the phone I've. Let her send voice notes to group chats and she's responded to anybody that responded to those group chats uh right on you rock kimberly. God bless you. Thank you so much for always being so amazing.

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Okay, any other discussion items hearing none all in favor, please state aye,.

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Aye those opposed the eyes have it. Motion carried next item on the agenda is item eight b community and cultural relations. Commission appointment.

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Doctor chair councilman, b dude, I think it's only fair that I read this one. uh I moved at the dear behind city council, concur with the mural appointment of mrs laura cernudo.

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The community and cultural relations commission term to expire august 2023 in addition, remove mohammed bay doon as a voting member and appoint him as the ex-official council member term. Two expired january 2025, as outlined in eight b support.

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Motion made by councilman beidou, supported by councilman muskay. Is there any discussion on that.

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Council, chair.

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God uh I just want everybody to know that I am removing myself as a voting member, but I'm staying active uh with the uh cultural relations commission. I had this conversation with the mayor. um It was a decision. I think that we needed to fill in and some that can be a lot more involved where I'm still, there involved uh just giving my advice to the entire commission.

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And actually uh resident contacted me today and I I called her back, but then you're back from her book just to answer her question. um I myself would still be on there as an ex-official, and I verified that with the mayor that you could have two ex-officios on that particular council. I was not a voting member before will continue to not be as a voting member, but there could be two ex officials on that on.

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That so you're also my recommendation to be an ex official. Oh.

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Okay, thank you.

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Any other discussion items on that hearing. None, let's go ahead and take that to a vote all in favor, please stay die. Those opposed the eyes have it motion carried. Congratulations. Thank you. Next item on the agenda is reports from city officials, city clerk, senior purchase and payment of desktop computers and budget.

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Amendments council, chair.

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Moved the dearborn heights city council approved the purchase of two dell optiplex 5490 all-in-one desktop computers in the amount not to exceed 1 500. Each one computer will be using a clerk's office and payment will be issued from the clerk capital outlay account under five thousand dollars. The second computer will be used for the election office and payment will be used issued from the election capital outlay. Account number 101-190-981-000.

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In addition, authorize the mayor and comptroller to sign a necessary warrant and a treasure to issue payment upon receipt. Furthermore, authorize the comptroller to amend the budget as follows: from clerk's part-time account, 101-215-706.010.

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To kirk clerk capital outlay under 5000 account number 101-215-981.500.

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In amount of 1500, as outlined in 9a, support.

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Okay motion made by councilman muscat, supported by councilman ahmad. Is there any discussion on that council.

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Chair councilman go ahead; also, just uh you know let the clerk's office know I go in there. Often I see those computers. I think I've even told them. What's what's going on these computer screens and the computers from the 60s, I'm glad you'll be also being updated. I'd love to see somewhere in the city hall be updated. I know I've seen uh our hr directors and that one looks really outdated as well.

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So maybe she can come in next week and request for some updated computers just so that we're staying you know up to gauge with the technology today. Thank you. Thank you. Okay,.

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Is there any other discussion on that?

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Okay hearing, none I'll just go ahead and take that to a vote all in favor, please state. I.

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Those opposed the eyes have it motion carried. Thank you. Next item on the agenda is item 9b, treasurer hicks clayton, quarterly investment of funds report for march 31, 2022., council.

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Councilman ahmad, I.

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Moved that the dublin heights city council received no and filed a quarterly investment of funds report from march 31st 2022, as outlined in nine dash b support.

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Okay motion made by councilman ahmad supported by councilman bay dune. Is there any discussions on that.

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um Councilman, I think uh treasurer lisa explains.

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Okay, go ahead.

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Ahead uh treasure.

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Thank you um I wanted to. If you would, with your uh motion the policy. That's attached to this item, that that not only has to be reviewed annually, but the council, the governing body, should move to approve it. If you would kindly do so, that is based on in compliant with public act, 20 of 1946, so that way we're in full compliance, and I can send that to our banking institutions. If you would please thank you.

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So uh treasurer the policy there is that, because I I I looked through it but uh right, but it's not, um I know, but it's not. The policy was not what I was reviewing. I was reviewing the quarterly report, primarily so question two is they are part of the same policy that was given to us a while back.

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Yes, it's annually, it comes.

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They want to come.

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Before you annually.

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Nothing's changed okay.

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Nope, nothing has changed, it's got to be compliant with public act 20 and that's a requirement by state law for all treasuries across the state of michigan.

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Okay, excellent. Thank you.

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Any other discussions on that hearing, none all in favor, please state aye, aye those opposed the eyes have it motion carried council.

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Chair councilman, let the record reflect that nancy breyer has joined the council meeting.

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On the agenda is item 9c, chief of staff hernandez new assessment contract with anthony fuco, assessing consultant inc council.

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Chair councilman muscat. I move that the dearborn heights city council approved the assessment contract uh city of dearborn heights between the city and anthony fuco, assessing consultant incorporated and to authorize the mayor, bazzi and clerk lynn sienna to execute this contract on behalf of the city. Furthermore, authorize the mayor and comptroller to sign the necessary warrants and authorize a treasurer to issue payment from gl account.

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101-209-818-000 is outlined in 9c.

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Support okay motion made by councilman muscat, supported by councilman bay dune, any discussion on that. But before we do, uh we have our assessors.

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uh Good evening, I just wanted to take a brief moment to thank the city council and the administration for the opportunity to continue to serve this great community and to joyfully be there for the public and just to continue the work that I think we're doing, which is turning out pretty good and I'm very excited to keep working with the city of dearborn heights. Excellent. Now.

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Since I have you on the line kimberly, um I had a little bit of a question. So, although you do a great job, I wanted to get a breakdown, um the contracts for 330 000 and when we started uh way back when an estimate, would you say what about five seven years ago about five.

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Years um I we started, I believe the company started with the city in 2016.

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Okay and when we started, if I'm not mistaken, was that 250 000 is that correct.

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um I actually was not.

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Right tony, was of the company.

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At that time, yeah, I I don't have the exact number okay.

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So, let's backtrack.

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Year, what I'm trying to understand? Okay, what was it last year? Exactly was it. I.

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Know it wasn't, I believe it was a thousand.

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And I know you asked for an additional field person, if I'm not mistaken, which I presume that 330 000 would would include that. Is that correct.

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Yes, yes, that's correct.

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Okay, so do you have what it was last year by chance.

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um I believe it was 280.

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Yeah I was in the high twos, so then you asked for a field um appraiser, which was.

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Trying to recall the amount from a few weeks back with a 60 or something.

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We're estimating approximately 30. okay.

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So we got 30 000 plus 285, but then we have a jump up to 330 000.. So do you have a at least a general breakdown as far as why they increased to 330 000.

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um Typically, every year the our contract has been set up where it increases by the state given rate of inflation every year. So we included that rate of inflation increase, and then there was also the additional training, which is a new requirement by the state that they didn't have. Prior to the past uh year. The the law went into effect this upcoming year. So there's additional training, that's required for the staff that the city requests to have on sites council.

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Chairs, okay, okay yeah! I was just going to say if you needed a clarification, I think what ms comer is saying is that the escalator is taking it very close to the right that we're talking about, except for the additional person and the mandatory training right. So.

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Okay, thank you very much kim appreciate it.

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Any other discussion items on that.

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All right hearing, none, let's go ahead and take that to a vote all in favor, please stay die. Those opposed the eyes have it motion carried. Congratulations.

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Next up is fire chief brogan purchase and payment of scba masks council's.

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Councilman constance.

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I move that the dearborn heights city council approved the purchase of three scba mask from pressure vessel testing in the amount of 4 200.

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In addition, authorized the mayor and comptroller to sign the necessary warrant and the treasurer to issue payment upon receipt from capital outlay account 101-335-98100.

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Is outlined in 9d support.

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Okay motion made by councilman constance, supported by councilman musca. Is there any discussion on that hearing? None all in favor, please state aye.

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Those opposed the eyes have it. Motion carried next item on the agenda is fire chief brogan purchase and payment of rapid intervention team rit kits council, chair, councilman uh ahmad.

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I moved that the dearborn high city council approved the purchases of two rapid intervention team, rit kids from pressure vessel testing in the amount of nine thousand seven hundred six dollars. In addition, authorized the mayor and the control to sign the necessary warrant and the treasurer to issue payment upon receipt from capital lay account 101.

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335-981 0-0-0, as outlined in 9-8, support.

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Motion made by councilman ahmad ordered by councilman b dune. Is there any discussion on that hearing? None all in favor, please state aye, those opposed the eyes. Have it next item on the agenda was a walk-on by councilman tom wenzel um and he's already read it uh at this particular point.

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I know we've already read it once, but let's read this quickly. Thank.

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You um I'd like to make a motion that uh city council direct corporation council miaki through the council chair to draft language for a charter amendment slash edition this charter amendment addition would prohibit any development on the warren valley golf course north of the clubhouse. We are requesting this language to be drafted by our next regular meeting by may 10th 2022..

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The actions taken to expedite this matter should be done so that can be given to the clerk's office no later than 5 pm on august, 2nd 2022. This would ensure that the issue would be on the november ballot for the residents of dearborn heights to decide. Thank you support. Okay,.

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By councilman wenzel supported by councilman uh mosque, any discussion well, that would be during public comments. Sir, if you don't mind, you'll be allowed to speak. I'm sorry on agenda items, that's why earlier I said on agenda items you could have spoken, but I will allow you to get up and speak during the public comments. Sir.

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Council, chair, I'm so sorry, I don't know if they were allowed to speak because there were. This agenda item was added after.

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Was it added afterwards? I don't know.

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But it was under agenda approval before public hearing and comment on agenda items.

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Okay, I'll! Allow you go ahead, sir, just because of the possible potential for you. What two.

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Minutes please, my name is cash wagson.

A

City and street.

U

I live in new braun heights, 8152, virgil, okay, uh you were speaking about warren valley and you were talking about uh construction north of the clubhouse. Is that right.

A

uh That's the most.

U

Are you drawing a line from this uh direct east and west line from the subdivision to beach daily and not just behind the clubhouse, because in front of the clubhouse is all parking lots and you can leave it there and it is your idea of maybe building something in front of that just before warren avenue.

A

Okay, well, sir, just to make it clear. This is not my motion. This is a motion by councilman wenzel, so.

G

A

Make sure just one second councilman: will you all satisfy your questions, sir? Yes,.

U

I'm gonna allow them to answer.

A

You, but I just want to make sure you're all saying.

U

Yes, I I work in warren valley, okay, and I was very disappointed to see what happened this year. Okay and- uh and I don't like the looks of what it is- and the people have an awful lot more to say about this than I would think that few people here, we elected you, but we- the people- should have a bigger voice in it than what what's going.

G

On right now, okay.

E

Thank you. Thank you for that, because that that's one of the reasons I want this on the ballot to have not just seven people make a major decision like this, but all the voters in dearborn heights have a chance to say what they they feel. Seven. People's opinion uh is is good, but for this matter this is one of the biggest investments we have in the city of dearborn heights and uh right now um it's a loser.

U

E

It's going it's it's it's going to pot right now. um We should be it's an investment that the residents trusted us to take care of and maintain properly and at this time it's there's nothing at all being done on it, and we need to get going on this as soon as possible. But as far as the development this could be uh talked about in the language you gotta do the development of the parking lot um as far as uh the development north of the clubhouse.

E

With this, this gives us the opportunity to uh improve and make additions on the clubhouse. um This could be all specified. You know in the language, this is opening it up for for additions on the clubhouse, the parking lot, maybe a a band shell or a gazebo, or you know a pavilion for entertainment or conscience. We have other things like that, but it all had to be approved. But this way he goes on the agenda. I mean on the ballot in november.

E

It's a charter amendment and that would prohibit it'd, be in our charter, prohibit any development of the golf course itself and it I've been told you know we don't want to put restrictions on us, but if the voters in the future want to develop the golf course, then it goes up for the vote for the president's again. Let the voters decide instead of uh you know, for all. It takes four members of council to uh approve development on golf course. If this is not adopted,.

U

It'd be a shame to see that thing go. I've I've dealt with that golf course over 70 years myself as a caddy and worked there and played there and I'm sure there's a lot of people. It's.

E

A shame that this is happening this year, because this is the 100th anniversary of the golf course, and this should be a banner year for the golf course. And it's it's one of the darkest days of the golf course.

U

I'm glad you're taking it into heart to your heart. I hope you do something. That's sensible and.

E

Keep it an open area for us to play golf. Do everything in my pocket.

U

Everybody around every city around here has got a golf course and they're doing good and we seem to be going right down the toilet. So, let's see if we can do something better than that. What's.

E

In the works, we're hoping that something comes through real soon here and we get this thing opened up. That's our that's the plan right now, because all the rumors going around are rumors, but let's just hope that none of these rumors come true, but the plan is to open this golf course.

U

Okay, I hope we clarify it very well. Thank you very much. Thank you.

C

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G

C

Just going to say that you know, I think more than what uh mr wenzel wants to say is we don't build like the homes that were almost built there a few years back, so that kind of development is what we don't want to see. I mean if we have development to to enhance the golf course itself as a golf course as a as the you know, clubhouse and maybe structures for the clubhouse.

C

I think that would be uh what mr wenzel was talking about, so uh hopefully that that comes to fruition, and I I agree with councilman wenzel.

G

A

A

Q

Vladimir and then.

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Q

Counselor so well, if we, uh whenever we decide to put any language, you know we have to be also mindful you know. I know mr deeb and I and few people from the county we're looking at the lower part of the the course uh to put a retention, detention basin and that's to eliminate. You know some of the flooding in the neighborhood uh just north of the course or even east, of the course. So, but anything, that's gonna really prohibit us to put a retention detention base in in that area.

Q

So again, you know we can't prohibit putting a basin uh in that area. You know we have 36 holes, there's one area flooded and we are looking at the potential to put a retention detention basin to make sure that the neighborhoods in that area does not require council chairs.

C

J

S

Is nice glad yeah? If I made one one other point, there's there's you know. I appreciate that uh councilman wes wenzel has taken the heart some of the things that I've suggested in the past, but there's a real hole here, which is that this is not designed.

A

S

The city from selling this property city could just sell this property entirely, and all this would be meaningless in terms of development.

S

I mean this is one of the things that I've ended up stating in the past, in terms of the property being retained by the city by virtue of a charter amendment. So I don't know if the council would want me to include language along those lines. Maybe.

B

S

Things to try to include.

J

S

Issues that the mayor has raised.

S

Obviously this is when you try to get into the weeds of prohibiting development you're, basing it on a particular location on the on the golf course. It's it's more.

J

S

Potentially than just you know, keeping you from or keeping the city from being able to sell.

A

S

Into perpetuity based on a charter amendment but I'll put the other whatever I can as best I can. I just need to know what it is that you want. Thank.

A

You well, I I tell you, I speak for myself, um I'm not for development on the golf course and there's been no conversations of any type of development on the golf course. Not the mayor, not myself, not by any council members. This was something that was brought forward uh was about three four years back whatever it was, it was botched and it was dead, but I do have a problem from a real estate perspective, just myself as a realtor, nobody puts a condition on himself on his own property.

A

That just makes no sense in my brain. So when you own your own home, you know there is such thing as what's called like a deed restriction, and sometimes people do that when they sell a business, they'll put a deed restriction like let's say somebody owns a a building that has a let's say, a mcdonald's restaurant, for example right and let's choose mcdonald's, and they sell that particular building.

A

They can put a deed restriction that no other burger place can open up in that place because they don't want burger king to come in and open up. I see that and I understand that, but I've never heard of it where somebody puts it any type of restriction on themselves.

A

There's no talk whatsoever of any type of development on the golf course not with me not with the mayor, not with anybody, so the problem I've got with stuff like this. This starts the rumor mill going all over again and also I'll be honest with you councilman. I resent the comments that are being made because we got to be careful because this is the type of stuff that starts these types of rumors. When we say, for example, you just made a statement. Nothing is being done with due respect.

A

That is not a true statement, because I can tell you: there's been a lot of work done on the golf course as far as getting it going a lot of meetings. As far as administration is concerned, I'm saying I mean.

N

It's getting going.

A

They've met multiple times with the person that took over the the development multiple multiple times to get it going. So all hands on deck are on there to get this thing going. So when we say nothing's been done.

E

Council, chair, I'm first learning to nothing's getting done to the golf course is what I said: nothing's.

A

E

Nothing's being made.

A

I can tell you that's not true either because to today myself and the mayor and he'll get into more details, but I was on the phone with the mayor when he was working this particular I can't get into the details, but I'm getting it up and running.

A

He wants it worse than anything up and running, so nobody's trying to block this thing from being up and running, and then, when we make statements such as you know, it's a shame that on a 100 year anniversary it's not open, but that would imply. Like we closed it, we didn't close it. It's open and everybody in the city wants this thing open. I don't know if anybody doesn't want it open.

A

So when we go into something like this personally, I'd rather put something like this to a study session, so we can see a the cost from a clerk's perspective. As far as potent sound like this on and b, is that something that's going to be recommended per either our corporation counselor or anybody else that maybe wants to put it. You know I I don't want this thing developed, I'm not saying that, but they, the residents elected us, to make decisions.

A

We are making decisions, there's no decision to develop it whatsoever. When we bring some like this up, I guarantee you. The rumor mill is gonna start going and then you're gonna see people not wanting to sign up for the golf. So.

E

Sure the rumor mill's been going on for years. I mean I didn't start this room. Remember I'm just I I'm every one of us get calls on it every every day, not every day.

A

And then you nip it in the bud by saying there's nothing whatsoever.

E

I said nothing's getting done to the golf course, because that's why I know.

V

Things are happening, it's been.

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E

I hope something's happened over a month since negotiations, but.

A

You know the complexity of what's going on but yeah. I.

E

Don't know I mean we should we, we should know the complexity. Thank you very much exactly my point. We're the we're city council and we don't even know what's going on nice.

D

Council chair real quick.

E

Quick said: no, no, it's cabin.

G

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G

One second councilman muscat was first then councilman constant. Then you could be.

A

Next and then the mayor.

C

I agree with with councilman wenzel that this needs to be done, but we also need to go to a study session. I feel to make sure that we do the things the right way put the right language in it and, of course, find out what we're going to do about a retention basin and how that affects the golf course if we're going to lose holes, if we're gonna have to work around that, if we're just gonna work around it for a while and then go back to the full golf course.

C

I'd like to know all of those answers before I vote on anything, because if it's gonna, you know if we gonna lose one or two or three holes and we'll relieve the flooding of the entire uh north end, I'm gonna be all for that real, real, quick too, but uh again, I'm full support of councilman wenzel, but I think it needs to go to a study session. So all questions can be answered. Okay, councilman constance.

T

Thank you, council, chair and I agree with the council chair, we're all the same eye. Nobody wants to see the golf course developed into houses. There's no discussion of that. Okay and we've had a lot of challenges. We bought the course the operator that was there was apparently doing nothing. We went out for bids, we got a new operator in okay.

M

T

Things are are moving along, but to bring this and put this on at the last minute, without just without.

J

T

Discussing it, I don't know if he discussed it with the chair but to to have it on the agenda before the meeting. I I I agree it does it. It does create a rumor that something other than plan is going to go on. You're, correct you, don't we can't read the future.

T

If I own property, I don't and it's it's right on the lake. I don't put a restriction on it that a house can never be built because things may change. I I don't wanna. No one is talking about developing or putting houses on the golf course we're.

J

T

We've got mr issa in if, if there's any language, it has to go first to the attorney general's office to be okay. So it's it's not.

A

T

It's not that simple, okay.

A

Mayor's next and councilman, b, dude.

Q

No, I mean I, I resent the remark that councilman made about nothing's being done to.

E

The golf course you guys.

Q

Don't excuse me through the golf course: okay.

E

I want to clarify that.

Q

I know, but not to the golf course okay to the golf course. Okay, we've had every meeting we had. The council asked for an update and I've been giving updates.

A

Any council member.

Q

That calls my office and asked me for update. I give them update, so I don't know where that's coming from europe.

E

I mean your updates.

J

Are negotiating.

E

That's the only updates. We've got we're still in negotiation, please it's the only updates. We've.

Q

Got well, I'm I'm going to give an update here on record again. Okay, I know we are we're in the middle of negotiation. We had a meeting last week we had as of the last couple days, I'm.

A

Gonna interrupt you for just a second, because I want to clarify I I hate to do this, but I apologize mr mayor.

A

This is the mayor's call to me this morning, contracts and golf course. The mayor asked to speak about this today during the announcement session. As then everything I had it, we've.

Q

Written from the morning, as in every meeting council chair, correct.

A

Q

Sorry, okay, we did have an we did have with. I sit down again at the golf course a few days ago and mr miyaki, their attorney again showed up. We went to the we walked to the course I don't know who, whoever speaking even you, counsel, uh councilman winslow, you can go to the golf course anytime and see the condition it was left to the city. It's embarrassing, it's it's! It's absurd! You know it's it's!

Q

I don't want to say the wrong thing, because there's going to be legal action against the confession here that was there before they took everything that was not bolted down to the ground. Okay, every time that we discuss, we discussed negotiation about something we go back, there's something going on. We were there a few days ago and there's a there's, a company that was up there. They delivered some stuff and they said hey.

Q

We delivered some stuff to the golf course, mr miyaki now we're sitting there like what the heck you guys are talking about this course has been shut down for about a month, but this guy swears that he brought equipment to the course to warren valley golf course. It wasn't there. So obviously something got delivered there and it disappeared.

Q

There's stuff that was being taken away. If you go there right now, it's there's more stuff that was taken away every every few days. So we did. You know we actually put a bolt around the freaking building and a new boat. A new check. I mean chain a new bolt just so nobody can go into the course.

J

Q

Is the stuff that this this this.

J

Q

Was being left this the condition, so we try we're negotiating, but every time we go back to look at something something else is gone. We went looked at the pump station a couple saturday or sunday and we found we. We couldn't really start the pump, so we have to get a company to come and start the pumps to see what pumps are working. We found one of the pumps that the wires are severed.

Q

Okay, severed severed wiring, so nobody's going to go turn anything on unless we go check to see why the wires are severed. So this is what's going on right now, so here here's your update, anytime! You want! You can go to the golf course and you look at the condition yourself councilman. It's in.

E

Bad shape the golf course itself isn't.

Q

We are trying we are trying, we have this, we try to negotiate a contract. Like I said you know, we went back and there's also liability when you go look at the car path and you see some of the craters, it looks like a bomb craters in some of the area, and I tell you what as the mayor, I don't feel comfortable of opening it right now and somebody falls or something a card goes through these things and rolls over and hurts somebody and this the city is liable for it. If you're comfortable.

D

With that, I'm not council chair, thank you to the mayor. um You know it's a very emotional topic. I can see where councilman tom munch was coming in speaking from the heart. I also know that in our email the mayor said he's going to be given an update on the golf course today. With respect to the mayor, you did say this.

D

I actually went in your office and I had that conversation with you today, but I know you councilman tom munso's also been requested via email updates, doesn't even have to be publicly he's just you know getting it, and I think here on council we just have to give and take, but we also have to you know, give it that time. I know from golfing there. Last year my friends hated golfing there. It's not a good golf course to golf at personally.

D

I I go out to uh you know places in canton, and the golf course is absolutely stunning. I come out to dearborn heights and I'm disappointed it's upsetting, so whomever you know mr issa goes in and does the work. I hope that it's going to be updated, but I know that the residents want this open, I'm with you on it. You think I want a golf. I want to be able to go in my own backyard. I live right around the block from the golf course.

D

I absolutely want to golf, but I also want to make sure that there's golf carts, because I don't want to push my you know. I don't want to push a bag or I don't want to hold the bag over me. um So I know mary, I think, was that your update for today no.

Q

All the council members got an update from mr miyaki, our attorney so, and it was. It was pretty detailed, update a few days ago. Okay, so I don't know if you guys got a chance to look at your email.

D

I was able to man just a question. I mean with the negotiation with them. Do we do we have a time stamp, maybe the next week, two weeks a month, just maybe.

Q

So that we know the pumps were supposed to be inspected this week. Okay, once we inspect the pumps to make sure that they're working because it's flooded, some air is flooded right now, because we can't turn the pumps on okay once we turn the pumps on, then we go to another face to go there and they submitted an offer, but we we're going to submit a counter offer. I like that. Thank you.

D

Okay and and tom I swear, every single person on here shares your frustration. I.

J

Swear but I would also tell.

D

You that I would support this right here openly today, but I'm going to tell you. I think it's also smart, that we also put this to a study session. So we understand the legality of things making sure that it's prepared and ready to go. I'm all for this, but what I would also hate is if we go ahead and vote on this and and the residents turn it down and I'm not saying that it is that's their prerogative.

D

It is the prerogative, but I'm also saying, let's make sure that the terms that we put together on this, that we hold our corporation council properly through a study session, I'm all for that. I'm willing to have a study session next week before before our uh budget hearing council.

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E

That's that's one of the things about this is uh this is very time sensitive. We don't have any time spirit to get this on the november ballot, otherwise it'll take another year and a half to get it on um this has to go. I don't know, there's different ways. It could be. It could be an addition.

E

I don't know, that's where mr miaki is gonna have to or the amendment you know, we're gonna go the cheap, the cheapest and fastest way possible, so that I said this is this is uh something that's very time sensitive and the vote on this today. Yes, and anyone that doesn't agree with this, uh then you're, not you know.

J

The residents should take this.

E

Yes on this, it just gives the corporation council a head start to start start this and then, if we have a study session in a week or two weeks, we decide you know not. You know, okay, this is what we want to do. We gotta get the ball rolling here. You know we wait too long ever since we bought this golf course and I've been on city council dozens and dozens of times. I've asked where, where is the language that says?

E

There's no development on a golf course and I've been told answers like well, you know it takes council approval to develop it or I don't want that. I want the residents to have a say. I want it in the charter and if there's a retention basin or something like that, I mean that I'm not I'm not. For that. I mean one retention basin, a small one's going to alleviate all the flooding.

J

E

On the north end, but on the south end we're taking a 36 acre retention basin to alleviate this, I don't think a small retention based on a golf course is going to do too much. I don't know I haven't gotten the engineer, that's the first. I heard of it tonight about retention based on the golf course I've never heard of it. I don't think any other council has heard about it.

Q

So these are, you know.

E

These we need to vote yes on this tonight and get the ball rolling and have a study session, and then we could. We could tweak it after that. Thank you. Okay,.

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H

Council members constitute I'm right, I'm with uh also with the study session before I do it before. I make a decision on this, I'm I mean with I'm with tom councilman, so I'm not with any development, but I need to hear from the engineering department first to see exactly what did they need to do before we put anything to uh on the ballot. So uh I'm definitely with the study session before uh making a decision.

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S

Counselor me atkins how about this as a recommendation that you refer this matter back to the administration and direct me to prepare language that addresses certain potential concerns, including development retention, basin and or sale of the golf course. And then you tell me a date that I need to have this done. You come up with a study session date and I'll get some language together, so that councilman wenzel feels like we're moving on it.

S

The rest of you have some more concrete stuff in front of you and then we're still working within a time frame that might be able to work for everyone and.

J

S

Still have the study session because it appears that that's at least my observation. It seems like that's the consensus of the council. They have a study session, so I mean I could start working on something. If you give me a little direction or, like I said, go over the options you have me sometimes prepare stuff. I could potentially do something along those lines without adopting this specific motion, because I mean frankly, this specific motion.

S

I don't think it covers everything that would need to end up being covered both per the mayor and uh and just more generally, I mean so just a suggestion. The.

G

Only one, thank you one. Second, anybody else, yeah.

J

What's next yeah council chairman website.

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G

I'm sorry councilman was next sorry glad.

C

Well, there's a motion on the floor that we need to vote on, okay and we and and no matter if it passes fine, if it doesn't pass, we still can make a motion to refer this to a study session and to authorize the mayor or to incorporation council to start drafting something in the meantime.

C

So I think that's the best way to kill this. We we we'll we'll we can vote on this. The way it is the motion is, then we can make re-motion to have a study session with corporation council starting to work on this. uh If that's.

A

But there is emotion on the table yeah. This would have to be turned down.

C

It passes because, but there is a motion on the table right council.

E

Chair, okay, I just want to let you know remind the council members here, that's exactly this is just to have you, council, chair direct corporation council to start drafting language. That's that's this! Isn't uh you know when they put it on the ballot or anything? This is the start drafting language and that's what.

J

E

Of us just said here, you know that's what we want to do so I think there's no reason why not to vote yes on this for the residents of dearborn heights. Okay, no problem.

B

A

Chair, yes, I'm sorry.

B

um A couple of things I can hear the urgency in the of your concern. Okay- um and I know you have a lot of meetings this week, but there's thursday evenings open, I mean not thursday.

G

A

What we'll do, if you don't mind, just you or dana call me tomorrow and we'll line up an exact date.

B

Once we vote on it and then you.

J

Can amend that.

B

The motion on the table right to refer okay,.

S

You could you could make a motion to amend the mean motion at this time if councilman wentzel is not willing to accept it as a friendly amendment, you could also end up tabling it and, referring this matter over to me, consistent with what councilman muscat said, I mean those are two different options to address this. Thank you.

G

Okay, well so, but the first we gotta vote on this first and then we can decide for you.

A

S

I'm sorry council chair, you can actually someone could make a motion to amend the main motion right.

E

And it would be an order.

S

You don't have to vote on the motion as currently.

A

But he'd have to you have to take his motion off the table.

S

No not tell him.

A

Or remember himself, he could amend it to amend.

S

It okay and that ends up superseding the main motion. Okay, and he.

H

Said I'm sorry, gonna go out cause the trigger.

S

H

We can make a motion to table it and do nothing with it.

S

Until we have you, could you could either make a motion to table it, or you could make a motion to uh amend this motion to refer the matter to corporation council to prepare appropriate language as well as or appropriate possible language. Given the council's concerns and to refer this matter to a study session on a date to be determined by the council chair and the city clerk.

E

Council chair, um you know I would amend my motion if, if in the motion it keeps the the part that says you direct the corporation council to start, you know just to.

J

D

E

Like tomorrow, we can do this all right, I mean I, I don't want to take out anything that says we're not going to direct him to get going on this, because I my main motion here idea of it is to get going tonight and if he starts doing it tonight and then with with the study session as soon as possible, to talk more about it, but we need to get going on this. We can't we can't drag our butts on this. We got it.

E

We have to I've talked to several people about the time time it takes to get this on. If it is, I mean, there's different. I've had different input about some of these things. They don't have to go to the attorney general or if it's a add-on.

J

E

But that way the corporation council can let us know exactly what we can and can't do with this and the procedure. I know I've got some different procedures from amendment.

E

Charter amendments in the past, and I can share them with everyone- I can give copies but yeah just as long as we keep there that we direct corporation council tonight to start language and and take uh to take this to a study session. So we can talk about it further. If you amend your motion, you could add that in yeah. Well, that's basically what I want. I want to just just add on that refer to a study session.

E

As soon as soon as time possible.

A

If we vote this.

G

Yes, then, the clerk's.

A

E

Will be caught, can you give a? Can you give us the respect of get notifying us other council members when this date is just in case someone can't always.

J

C

J

Always sir, just.

C

To make it a little bit easier, uh I move that we amend the motion uh to move this to a study session and to uh authorize the corporation council to start drafting language uh as as this motion here immediately uh states. So we can get the ball at least moving until we have a study session, including.

S

Some of the other possibilities.

C

Yes, with all the other possibilities, we can discuss everything.

E

You kind of got that yeah yeah.

C

I agree with that yeah, so you'll. Second, my motion now. Second, that will be good. Okay,.

A

So, based on councilman musket's uh motion and seconded by councilman wenzel. Oh I'm sorry, but.

S

You could just basically say he's offering that as a friendly amendment, it's accepted by councilman wenzel, and that does it without having to actually have a vote.

C

I am offering that as a friendly amendment to mr wenzel, the second that you second, that mr.

S

E

Do I have to second, I don't have a second do I yeah.

S

You just have to accept it. Yeah.

E

I accept it. Yes,.

C

There we go, we don't have to vote on that. Then right.

S

Then you have to vote against the motion as amended yeah.

A

So voting on the motion is amended with the friendly motion.

G

From councilman.

A

Muscat seconded by councilman wenzel, uh all in favor, please stay die. Those opposed the eyes have it. Motion carried next item on the agenda is item 13a business license renewals, council, chair.

C

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C

Moved at the dearborn heights city council, renew the business license for antonio's cucina italiana, located at 26356 ford road elijah, banquet llc, located at 23900, westbourne and.

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C

Heights moose lodge located at 27225, worn as outlined in 13a.

A

Motion made by councilman muskets, supported by councilman b dude. Is there any discussion on that.

D

uh Counts, uh council, chair right: you know the way um councilman musket said: kochina italiana. I thought he was italian for a second just to bring a little bit of laughs and enjoy it in this uh taliana.

J

Restaurant man you're.

D

A great man, mr musketeer, oh well,.

C

Everybody has a good man. Tell that to my wife. Will ya.

A

Okay, so motion made by councilman muscat seconded by councilman beijing all in favor, please state hi, those opposed the eyes have it motion carried. I I do want to stay. I I think uh welcome one of our newest members in the city of david heights. In the last few years, a couple years, bellagio banquet doing a great job, a great addition to our city and I'd like to not welcome, but continue all of us to support antonio's, cochina, italiana, otherwise known as antonio's on ford road.

A

As a matter of fact, I'm having dinner tomorrow night at their original place, roman village tomorrow night so are.

D

You are you treating everybody, no, no you're, not.

A

So all in favor, please stay die. Aye aye. Those opposed motion carried.

A

Is uh we're gonna go ahead and uh to go to commons from council.

D

A

Councilman b dune.

D

All right guys, uh I I know, there's there's a lot of tension. I feel like in these past coming weeks, uh there's been a lot of tension amongst this council. um I want us to know that when we first started, you know january 1st, we were all excited happy, giving each other kudos hugging one another. Let's just keep that in mind.

D

We we we shouldn't, be you know you may you should be able to give and take, and if somebody has a different opinion, you shouldn't be too emotional. We shouldn't you know dislike one another. Then today, every single one of us are doing are on here today, not to look beautiful, not for name recognition, because we sincerely care- and I just want to put it for the record- I'm 100 thousand percent opposed to any development on that golf course. uh I would. I do not want anybody to build on that golf course.

D

I think it's green space. I think the city needs a green space. I think it's nice to be able to say that dearborn has 100 year old golf course.

D

um I know that I know when I went into the mayor's office today I closed the door and I said, and I'm going to say it right here, even though I closed the door on the mayor. I said what is going on with the golf course he said mo. I swear it's a lot worse than anybody anticipated. Those are his words verbatim. You can ask them and if there's.

J

Anybody that's.

D

You know sending them emails and checking in on this golf course. I am asking on that golf course, as I'm sure everybody else on this uh council has um so to tom and to the rest of my colleagues we're all frustrated. I understand how that is happening. um Second thing here that we're going to talk about I've been reached out from by hulu hulu is doing a documentary on tasting the nation. It's a show it's in their fourth season. They are going to be coming to mr mackey's festival this friday.

D

If anybody would like to see them or be on camera, you guys can join us. On friday, the producer went over to the dearborn fire department, they're, actually going to start there and they're going to make their way over to the festival.

D

If you want to look pretty and be on hulu and beyond taste, the nation for the fourth season come on bye to the festival from 11 to 3.. um As we come to an end to ramadan we're going to be a lot of muslims around the world are going to be embarking on the aid celebration.

D

uh You know it's a great time. You're going to be able to have your cup of coffee that morning, you're going to be able to wake up, and you know, go to lead prayer and it's it's. It's always a great celebration. So to for those who don't know, celebration is like christmas to the muslim. You know muslim world and so we're going to wake up extremely early, we're going to go pray at the mosque, we're going to go eat with our families because we're no longer fasting.

D

I know the amity foundation is going to be doing a hey drive where we're going to be able to package gifts and give them out to those who don't aren't able to you know, help out their children.

D

So if anybody would also like to partake in that as well, uh the emmy foundation will be hosting a toy drive on sunday at 11 a.m as well. God bless you guys, telegraph of the amity foundation building. I don't know the exact address. It's a former comerica.

A

Bank on telegraph between cherry hill and border road on the east side of the street, halfway between huh between cherry hill.

C

And wilson, joe hill and wilson.

D

Cherry hill wilson, I can get you that address after uh this meeting start. I want to violate the open meetings act while I'm texting. Thank.

A

You uh just a quick comment: just wanted to commend um the different vendors that have been out in dublin heights during the last month and I specifically went over uh three four times to uh elite sports, uh their vendors and had some good food, but I just wanted to commend mike making happens to be here. I want to commend him on.

A

I even went there a couple different times in the afternoon just to check and even in the afternoons where there was nobody there. The place was pretty much spotless except one bottle of water that I see, but beyond that the place was spotless. So I wanted to commend him on that. It was well organized. It was safe lots of people. There is pre-packed and uh great job, as always, so just want to come in.

G

C

Thank you, council, chair um a few things. I want to thank mr conrad for answering my emails and personally reaching out to me today or yesterday discussing things on the on current claims. I thank you very kindly, sir, for taking your time out to do that and um uh mr mayor, I I'm receiving phone calls and also.

J

C

Course, social media about uh priority waste missing trash days.

C

I I don't know how to answer it other than call priority.

C

At one point, I was able to take care of that myself by calling the route supervisor and having them go right out and picking things up uh either by maybe they just missed the street or they're new to the area and don't know where all the streets are yet or trying to figure out. You know like in my neighborhood it's like kind of a maze and they go down one street. They could easily miss another.

C

So I'd like to have something done about this, so we can nip this in a bud now and uh just to let everyone know, there's a a lot of complaints about priority on facebook or the ordinance department on social media. Look folks, I understand the frustration. That's. What brought me here to city hall is blight. That's when I first started coming to city council meetings, but I can tell you this: it starts with ourselves. I've said this before it starts with the citizens amen.

C

You got trash flying around the neighborhood, because people are just throwing their trash in without putting them in bags. So when the garbage, when, when the can is picked up and dumped, it flies everywhere, especially when it's windy.

C

This is on us and and if you see a box rolling down the street, be neighborly pick the thing up cut it up, put it in your own bin. I mean that's, that's being neighborly what you know we we did that years ago. Let's not stop doing it. Okay and the other thing, mr mayor, is the complaint about cars still parked on the street. When are we going to really start enforcing that?

C

I I don't know if we can deputize the ordinance department or have a someone, something like dearborn has where they have a parking enforcement, uh because I I've witnessed the the rubbish guy getting out of the truck walking over pulling the bent over to pick it up they're trying to do the best.

C

But after a while, when there's going to be snow on the ground, or it's raining like heck guy dot's not going to want to do that- and I don't blame him okay, so you know we have to do something to get these cars off the street and and, uh ladies and gentlemen, please keep up your yards. It's summertime.

C

We don't want to be known as the dandelion city, it's the tree city, not dandelion city, okay, and we got kids outside playing now kids running out in middle street, trying to fetch their balls. So let's pay extra attention to our small children. They are small, they're young. Remember when we were kids. We did the same thing. So let's be extra careful and thank you. You're welcome.

A

uh Mr mayor just want to for those in the audience, as I mentioned, the mayor contacted me today and asked to be able to speak to give an update to the residents on the golf course and on con. No, I will get to that on contracts. I just want to let you guys know that that will be coming up. I know he gave us a bunch of information already on the golf course, but whatever additional stuff that you had in on contract negotiations well, you're all set.

G

Council, chair.

E

Yeah councilman once again, thank you. um You know I, this is my city and I'm going to stand up for what I believe in and what I believe is voted in by the residents is what's best for the residents, so I'm not going to back down on any issue. um You know. I I believe that I've lived in this city longer than any other employee in dearborn heights.

E

There might be one out there, but I don't think there is so, and I've had a very vested interest in this city building a big addition on my house. I never plan to leave here. I'm going to die here, hopefully a long time from now, but um you know I mean I there's things that I believe in that you know. I've been told that I shouldn't talk about.

E

It is quoted as I stay in my lane and be a legislature legislator, and if that's the case then ray you, don't take any calls on blight or mow. You don't take any calls on crossing children school crossing issues or imagine you don't take any calls on speeding or nancy. You don't take any calls on senior issues anymore or.

J

E

You don't take any calls on garbage pickup, because that uh these things that are concerning the city and no matter what it is, we have to speak up and represent the residents, no matter if, if it's considered right or wrong, that's what we were voted to do not just sit back here. Yes, yes, yes, and you know just vote things through we're hands on that's what we were voted when I believe everyone up here when they were running, they said I'm going to be hands on I'll, be there I'm.

E

You know I'll visit the schools, it's more than just being a legislator, it's being a part of the city and representing the residents of dearborn heights, and that's why I believe in and I'll keep speaking my mind until a court order tells me I have to stop and maybe not even then, but uh you know you know it's obvious.

E

You know I've, I'm very vocal about the union contracts and the golf course- and that's all I'm going to say about that right now, but I'm I'm not happy with either out and either of those the two of those.

E

um That being said, I've got a couple issues I want to bring up is uh as recently we we've got an event coming up at the richard, a young center in the rain gardens behind, but as inside the richard, a young center and the restrooms are still not working there and uh oh yeah, director lauren sell, I mean, can you can you give us an update on that?

E

I mean it looks like one of the bathrooms is now being used as a unix sex, bathroom and there's issues with the other restrooms we're looking for people to come in and be get memberships, and we don't want to offer proper restroom facilities.

F

Yeah hello, um I've been working with mr dave on it and actually he's handling the bathroom situation at richard a young now so I'm going to let him speak. Okay,.

K

Hi right behind you so um councilman. um If you recall a couple meetings ago, we had a proposal from a company that was on the agenda and we pulled it off because I wasn't convinced the price was reasonable, um so we have other companies.

K

I wrote the specifications on the repairs, but I still believe that the price was. It was a single bidder and the price was excessive, so we're having other bidders so we're conducting walk through to to get.

K

I believe that the right number is half of what uh what what what we received so we're opening it up more to competition to try to to get the better price and it's happening fast. So we have one coming up soon.

E

I've heard that there's some issues in the locker room, restroom facilities, you have you been aware of anything. I was.

K

Today I just heard about it today.

F

I I just heard about it today too, so we're looking into that when um we go up there uh with the people who are going to look at what needs to be done, we're going to take a look at that too.

E

Oh great good, to hear that. Okay! um Okay, thank you! Thank you! So what do you, uh mr d? What is what do you think in here I mean over the summer. This should be rectified. Does the restaurant no.

K

Much sooner than that sooner much sooner, we're looking at immediate, so so the the company that gave us the price I forgot, the name of the cns cns uh company- would have been uh it would have been done by now. But again the price was way too 43 000, 43 000.

E

You know I have people that are there and they said what's wrong with the bathrooms. What's the problem, what is the problem.

K

So we have two different opinions, but this is what we're going to find out real soon if it actually justifies. So it is slab on grade so the whatever you it doesn't have a base mount, meaning that if you have to do any work on the on on the um the pipes itself, you have to bust the concrete and then rebuild it, and you know finish with new tiles and everything, but even with that, the uh the the the cost was excessive. We believe it was excessive, so we asked couple companies and they both agreed.

K

This is a single bidder and it was just a high high price. I know councilman. Thank you so much so we we we'll get better, but thank you.

F

E

F

You know also, we did go out to bed for twice and we only had one bitter and it was the same bitter. First time it was lower the second time it was higher.

A

Are we putting them on the website? Remember we talked about that yeah. The challenges that that may not be enough. Are you trying to put them on the website facebook? Because yeah I'll tell you for me, I would love to see local local for.

K

J

K

Agree sure I agree, and there are a couple local uh companies that we're contacting. I think they we used to do in my former life. We used to do small business emporiums, where we actually invite small businesses, local businesses, and then this way you come up with a list of things and pre-approve them. So if you have you give advantage to a local business, especially on smaller size uh projects, you know it's not a multi-million dollar project, it's a small projects and that that is what we're.

K

If you recall last year, we did, we did the sidewalk and we had the same problem. We had very few people. In fact, we didn't have any bidders.

A

So further out, they are the higher they're going to charge us that's what local bidders would also do.

K

Cheaper, but you need to have an outreach program to get to these people, but.

A

It could be as simple as facebook website newspapers. You know, in addition to bidnet, of course,.

G

E

I got quicker things here, yeah yeah I mean I'm, I'm a opponent of bidnet. uh I've talked to several people and they said you know it's hard to get on. They don't know when something's on they have to check it like every day. It should be something like they can go. They can go on to the city's website. That might be, I don't know, but it shows all the contracts coming up in the.

K

Projects so I I've looked at other communities and and and the one in particular dearborn had had actually uh um like a link doing business with, and then you have you, you establish a local uh um company and- and you you, you make them aware. So if I was a business, if I was a plumber or or a concrete guy, I would go in on a regular basis and just look at my items.

K

You know if you have them and you have them listed, so we have to work with our procurement department to try to get this implemented, and I agree uh I mean it's very frustrating to me when, when I did twice last year we had the um the sanitary tap, we had no bidders and we did the concrete sidewalks twice and we had no bidders so it it's very. We had one one on the uh sanitary tab and I know dearborn has one so, but they just replaced their engineer, retired and their dpw.

K

So I'm going to reach out to them and see what process they use, because they do have sanitary tap on call and then they can activate them anytime. They have an issue like sinkhole, you know uh repairs, and then they add it. So they do have a process in place that hopefully we can just duplicate and use local uh companies like dearborn heights, give them. um In my like again in my previous life, we used to give the local companies five percent advantage. So if you're within five percent of low bidder, we consider you first.

K

So I mean there are a lot of things that we can do, but we need to do it internally with our own people. You know, implement it. Don't leave.

E

The director, but uh I would ask you up a good point, uh the sidewalk issue. Do we have a contractor for that twice when.

K

They had zero bids, I mean.

E

J

K

Yeah we have, we have a lot of issues. I have a list of people that actually signed the request for sniper replacement, but I need to get the company that we had before was an annual contract. That was what 2010., so I I mean it it just it.

D

Just yeah, this is just.

J

Comment on that.

G

It's just I comment.

J

On this yeah, maybe you can answer it actually, there's a resident that purchased.

D

The house in 2019.

K

D

Slabs were purchased, were paid for and put in escrow and it was 500 and something dollars. Bulldog was a realtor. The resident keeps asking me and saying you know.

J

D

The slabs they reviewed it, but they never gave me the 500 and they've been said it been an escrow yeah. I.

J

K

I need you to detail, give me.

H

D

Details, I'm saying so the resident said he's yet to receive his money. No, you just gotta contact just contact, rick rotland.

E

Yeah: okay, okay,.

J

E

I got just two things here: real quick.

J

E

After the uh our recent uh most recent budget hearings, um I was a little vocal about the eaton center and I would remain to be vocal on this and that's something I want everyone to know that we're going to stay on top of and make sure that that's get treated.

E

You know equally, there's there's a lot of things going on in the city right now with different negotiations and everything and there's a four-letter word that I'd like to use it starts with the f. It's called fair f-a-I-r.

E

We have to be fair across the board. We don't want this scale tipping like this or like this. We want that scale to be even and I'll fight for fairness with everything I've got.

E

It includes the eaton center union contract negotiations, golf course, negotiations- and I mentioned earlier that we're having an event myself bob constant watershed steward commissioners on may 7th a week from this coming saturday we're having our 29th annual e-course creek and rain garden maintenance day, and uh in recent years we've been concentrating on the rain gardens at the richard, a young center, spectacular, ecological specimen there. If you don't know anything about it, you can get a hold of me I'll. Tell you more about it, it's unbelievable!

E

What these rain gardens do, they're great for the environment, they're great for uh residents come out and work, we do it twice a year and we're, like, I said, we're going to be doing it on may 7th 9 a.m. Richard a young center uh there's flyers in the vesta bureau on this uh and we're looking for sponsors for this. Also, the spa engineers interested in doing a sponsorship that the sponsorships are due by the by the end of the week.

E

You can make your checks payable to the watershed steward commission and we're bringing up something that councilman muscat mentioned years ago. When we did the e-course pre-cleanup. We also added a neighborhood cleanup day that same day for people that don't want to come all the way down there or they don't want to do the rain garden. We're asking people to maintain your property, especially out by the street, in the curb you know clean it up. You know. uh We know our street sweepers we're short-handed, uh we don't uh the their their. Their time is.

E

Has been cut down a little bit, so we don't have the option of you know putting in extra time to clean the streets, but we will clean the streets. They will be cleaned. You know like as good as we can, but this is a program where you can get out there. Like mr muscat said you know clean do a little bit, you know, there's a famous president from the 60s.

E

He says: don't ask what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country, so don't ask what the city can do for you. What can you do for the city in the federal residence clean your street? I'm I'm working on something right now with home depot and lowe's to get like a pallet of lawn and leaf bags, and I'm I'm trying to make them available here at city hall.

E

That will be it'll be posted if that comes through, but this is a day where we can all get together as a city and not only work on our rain garden or creek but clean our whole city. That's may 7th two a week from this saturday. Thank you. Thank you.

G

Also, you guys have something said.

D

Real quick, uh you know, and I wanted to say this- I I told myself that I was going to say this. I know.

E

D

The mayor and our police chief gave out a uh quick information on what happened recently over this past weekend with an officer. uh I just wanted to say that you know this was this was very new and so to the mayor. I appreciate you giving us that update.

D

I appreciate uh our police chief hart for putting that out there and um to be honest with you, I I only knew only because I got the email, um so I just thank you guys for that, and- and you know if we can continue to get things like that, that would be great. uh I know in the past I've requested uh just to kind of get. You know weeklies of what's happening in the city, so everybody can know. That would be great.

D

H

Okay, councilman.

G

First, I have a.

H

Comment about, uh I know councilman once mentioned about the bidnet.

J

H

People has to go and check all the time I mean, even though, if you post in the city, people still have to check all the time. So is it possible? Maybe if we can add like a tap and a city website, they can put their information. Whenever we have work, they can't get a notification by email, so maybe that would help too, especially for local local vendors.

H

uh Also, I would like to mention another initiative. I've been working on. I know there have been a lot of coordination between the city and wayne county. I know mayor bez also have a bi-weekly meeting with county officials, so only it made sense that we asked the county officials to come down and meet our department.

J

H

uh So they can meet the county department. Department heads, uh you know, listen to them, see what kind of stuff they can offer. uh This way would be like person to person, they can have their phone numbers and um they can meet and call them any time with with their input and speed up the of the process. So I reached out to our city, council, chair and the mayor. They welcomed the idea, so I reached out to uh chief administrative officer, khali raha.

H

He welcomed the idea too so technically now we just work on the day, so we can set that day. So all the county, officials and directors can come to the city, so we can have a full representation from one county. Thank you, sir uh also I'd like to uh wish all the residents who was going to observe monday as a holiday uh mubarak.

H

Thank you. Thank you.

G

Councilwoman go ahead.

N

Okay, first I'd like to commend hassan, that's a great idea and as far as tom's program that they do every year at the rain garden and the other I participated three or four times it's fantastic and everybody should try to take part in that. It's a really good thing. We do and.

J

I did have calls.

N

From a resident on hopkins street between west lake and gully, who did not have his yard waste picked up? I didn't do the whole hopkins street to find out, but there were some misleads there. So as far.

J

N

Comments, that's all I'm doing that's announcements. Okay,.

J

T

Thank you. Thank you. uh Thank you. Councilman wenzel, for your input. um Councilwoman marge horvath used to say that you know the council should try to do things as a group, and in the past I mean I've been through good times bad times we had over the years 11 different lawsuits, we're supposed to be a deliberative body.

T

Let's do that. Let's all talk to each other. Let's remember that social media is not an official form of communication and watch what we put out there and then I want to say happy orthodox easter to everyone who celebrated last week. Christoste. Thank you.

T

A

Okay, next up I'm going to have announcements. uh The mayor had asked for some time to speak in regards to the contracts and the golf course so samira go ahead.

Q

Okay, so I mentioned the golf course I don't want to repeat myself, but basically what I mentioned earlier, we're waiting to see if the company can come in and see if the pumps are operational.

Q

That's going to be a huge uh issue if they're not working as most of you already know the pumps there each one is at least a half a million dollars, so I know that concessionaire is not going to take on that responsibility and also, as I mentioned, you know, there's a huge craters and the cart path, and uh we we should fix that area. You know that's some of the stuff that we're also looking into.

Q

um We can't open it. You know with with the craters uh and the carpet because definitely don't want any issues. It's a big liability to the city, somebody slipping or the carts flipping over. You know with somebody.

A

Q

That's a liability if anybody gets hurt, so we are looking at see if we can pave uh the car pass by trying to figure out who's going to do it, what fun or if the concessionaire is going to do that? That's that's something that we have to negotiate as well, so the they did submit a proposal.

Q

It wasn't favorable to the city, but again you know we're going to put a counter proposal, we're going to submit that once we figure out what's going on with the pumps and we, mr bob bankrupt, went there several times took pictures and we we do have the pictures of the golf course the condition it's in anybody's. Welcome if you guys want it, let us know we'll send you the pictures.

Q

If you want to go there, we'll send you the picture, so you can see the state that the course is in right now, both the banquet, the bathrooms and also uh the golf course itself and also the pump. So we do have pictures and um that's uh that's- that the contract negotiations was we're meeting uh with pretty much most of the union union reps right now, with all the contracts that we have on deck.

Q

We just had a meeting not too long ago with the mediators with the tpom. We are moving forward with that meeting and um the other thing I mean that's it for the for those two, uh but also um councilman baidu, mentioned about the incident. That happened the other day, and uh it is my oh always my intent to let the council know if any issue uh arises from the city.

Q

uh I want you to hear from us instead of hearing it as councilman constant mentioned social media, because, obviously it's not a form of communication, um we uh the form of communication on social media. If you want to look at that is our facebook. You know city, facebook and uh and also instagram. We are updating that constantly and also the police.

Q

Facebook uh any incident, anything that happens of interest or you know any concerns anything positive negative. You know we are posting it just to make sure that the residents are aware and also the council make sure that you guys get an email firsthand before we do anything. As I did a few days ago. You know we did have an incident, you know just for the residents who are not. You know I've seen some of the concerns that some I've gotten.

Q

uh I don't have time most. I don't have a lot of time to go to social media, look at everything that gets posted, but I just look at whatever is sent to me on through my phone, and so there was an incident. There was a car that was uh they pursued in center line and it was fleeing and looting and end up in dearborn heights and just to sum it up.

Q

It's still under investigation, our officers located the vehicle in dearborn heights and uh they tried to approach the the vehicle and uh there was somebody in it. They uh basically the person in the vehicle. There was black tower windows, they couldn't see who was anybody's in it. They tried to run the police officer over and there were several of them on scene and uh the police officer drew and fired two shots. You know at the vehicle, so the person got raised and you know he was you know, he's he was in custody, so I haven't.

Q

I haven't seen any updates as of today, but uh the officers did an amazing job. uh They handled the situation very professional, I'm proud of them, and I've seen them seeing other officers in another incident. That happened that they very professional they hand they handle it very professionally and I was very proud of them. There was about five officers that responded to another scene that they did an amazing job, I'm proud of all of them, and also I want to commend sergeant suggs. He got promoted a few days ago.

Q

I know several of you showed up to his promotion. I want to congratulate him and very.

U

Thank you. Thank you, mr mayor.

T

We we all got, and I got the email from our bob and crap and then also the announcement, so I didn't want to allude that we we all did and we got an email from there. So thank you. Thank.

Q

You and I'll continue doing if anything of big concern I'll make sure that you guys hear it from us. First thank.

D

You thank you. Thank you.

Q

And council chair I'm sorry. I just want to get clarification on record. So typically you're the council chair and you got the pro tem. So obviously there's something goes down. You know there's sometimes it's pretty hard to go back like, like you know the other day it took me a few hours to get back to my office to draft the email, and but I did call you right away and I called the council chair pro tem, so I just want to let the other council know.

Q

I mean I'm following protocol, I'm going by the process as it should. You know. First, let the council chair know the pro tem and I don't know how you want.

A

Q

The situation, but I will actually update the all seven council members when.

J

I get back tonight.

Q

So, just to let you know this, this is my process. This is the way it's gonna happen unless you guys want it differently. I appreciate that. Thank you, sir, and.

A

I'm going to ask you a point-blank question, because I I I get concerned about rumors flying around, are you or do you have any plans of building anything on that golf course.

Q

No other than a great golf course.

A

Q

Okay- and you know I mean I'm sorry- I mean I agree with the gentleman earlier- I if I golf it has to be in dearborn heights. I'd rather have it be a world-class golf course than be something embarrassing, and I didn't appreciate that comment, but uh that's yes,.

U

I would like to ask for your forgiveness and yours: I work there as a volunteer. They didn't pay me nothing. I picked up the trash, I filled in the sand traps and whatever there was, and I did the hang of a job I thought, but when you said you thought it was.

D

Bad, I thought man I worked for nothing.

D

The gentleman that was operating that place may have not done such a good job and it seems like he did it. I think that place could have been really look. This is dearborn heights, I'm not going to shortcut us anymore. This is we're at a 10.

D

That's where our standards need to be we're not going to accept a five or a four or three anymore, we're only accepting tens and if you can't give me a 10 which your service was like, but the former concierge was not giving us the time he was giving us a four and we were just accepting it. So if the next concierge can't give me a tank, guess what I don't want, you that's how that's it there's a new day in nearby heights today and god bless everybody here today. Thank you. Thank you, mr.

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Other announcements, council, chair.

G

One quick second man and then quarter councilmember god.

B

Man, I just have a couple quick amount announcements, a couple, quick announcements.

B

I wanted to update our registered voters on redistricting. We have been at a standstill right now, because we are waiting upon the state to give us information and we can't get that information until the may. Third special election in some communities are complete, meaning dearborn, okay, because there are some districting changes there.

B

So as soon as we get the information and as soon as we everybody should be getting new voters cards, we don't anticipate any precinct changes as far as boundary lines, but I just want to let you know the clerk's office is on top of it. As soon as we hear from the state they update the qualified voter file, then we can review what we have to review and then we'll get that information out.

B

I can't even run a report on what we need to send to the printer to send out the apple absentee ballot applications, because the system doesn't allow us to because we're on hold. So that's on redistricting. I also wanted to let you know that or anyone that's in interested in there's two school districts in our community that will have open positions um this year. Crestwood has some as well as district. Seven.

B

We do have that information on our election page online and paper packets are available in the clerk's office that those names will be on the november 8th ballot and then last, but definitely not least. Tomorrow is a very special day. It is national administrative professionals, days, administrative professionals keep our world turning behind the scenes, they're our first point of communication and organization, so thank them for all their hard work.

B

At our city. We have many yeah and I'm gonna say their names, because I think it's important. We have kimberly marincelli, sherry, winney, matthew, paul, nicole buckman, carol, barlow darla mandel, michelle payne, cheryl, frank julie, weekly, michelle bianchi, sally ramos, sheila wall, tamara. What janice bell beth kovale, um anthony stewart, lisa mccaffrey?

B

I don't even wanna susan by wallach, um josie, camilleri, pamela, harper, peppers, nadia, noradine, janet lucas, stephanie, shockey and last, but certainly not least, is dana flamant, our council secretary, as well and jorge so um they're they're, very, very, very hard workers and remember to thank them. Thank you. Thank you.

G

Members councilwoman go ahead.

N

Okay, you done yes.

B

I am thank you.

N

All right great- and I appreciate all of you- I met most of you, okay, especially dana over there. On the end, all right, I have three announcements. The post office is having a day where they collect non-perishable items and that's for the entire country from what I understand and it is may 14th.

N

So if you can collect a few things, put them in a bag, put them in a box and have them on your porch so that they can pick them up and get them to the right people that would be appreciated. Again. That's may 14th and then locally. We have our ecourse creek commission tomorrow evening, six o'clock, mr d, can't make it, but we will have some things to talk about.

N

So, if you care to come at six o'clock at three three, three five south beach daily, we will be there waiting for you and then, on thursday evening we have the south dublin heights, civic association, seven o'clock, same location and our ordinance.

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uh Will be there and he will be our main speaker. We also have coffee and cookies, so please attend one or both of those meetings and put your non-perishable items out on the 14th. Thank you. Thank you. Councilwoman.

E

Council, chair yeah.

G

Councilman go ahead.

E

I thought of a couple other things, though,.

G

You know okay, but we yeah we've got to watch.

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We have plenty of time, but anyway thank you. um You know the mayor uh mentions a couple things, but first of all I want to thank him. uh He's he's been involved with our rain garden maintenance for the last several years. Then you know not only showing up there, but you know actually physically working his butt.

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E

Doing it he's done a great job, um you know he mentioned the condition of the golf course and these these conditions didn't happen over the winter, and you know we've owned a golf course for like six years or something now or something- and you know shame on us in the past administration for not checking these things out. Until now I mean we, we let it get that way. We weren't on top of things. So you know you can you?

E

Can you can point the finger and play the blame game all day, but you know what it's time to stop playing the blame game and start taking action here. um You know the greens need to be mowed. It's our responsibility to maintain this. I've got. You know I can find out in the next day or two what it would cost us to get in there and mow those greens once those greens go, and you know what it's just it's just a field and then trees will start growing on it.

E

And then you know it's just going to be a big wetlands and um I um I there's things I like to talk about about the golf course and the contract negotiations I'd like to talk about in a closed session, otherwise I'll be bringing them up at the next meeting, and not people won't be happy, but um we, you know we need to get get to that golf course and take care of it now, while this you know, we've been talking for over a month now in negotiations and maybe it's time to put it out for bids again.

E

If this it seems like it's, you know from all. I know, there's no advancement, you know there might be, but I don't know I haven't been told that oh and I've asked for updates from the past administration on the golf course. Everyone knows almost every mean give me an update on the golf course. How much is it making? No one ever said anything about it, and now this year, all of a sudden, it's hey, you know it's terrible condition.

E

This guy's, you know you know we're we're running a guy into the mud without you know, have having proof about anything, that's being said, be it true or false, but a lot of things are being said, and you know be careful what you're saying, because you better make sure it's true or you might be opening yourself for us for some lawsuits.

E

You know the golf course is ours and I'm going to beat it into the ground and we need to take care of it. We need to mow them, know them. Greens, it's our responsibility. If it cost us money, we dropped the ball we should have. We should have had all our ducks in a row and transferred from one to another overnight and it see a seamless transfer, but unfortunately, things didn't work out that way, and so we've got the.

E

We got the the the situation that we have and we have to get in there and we have to get in there. I've talked to some people that do take care of golf courses and they say you've got to get in there and cut them greens, otherwise you're going to lose them. You know, and uh once again our e-course creek cleanup and rain guard maintenance.

E

Two a week from the saturday richard a young center flyers in the vestibule. Thank you. Okay,.

A

So I'll give a counter there so again, councilman these types of statements are starting they're, going to start spreading all kinds of rumors. You know we're not taking care of the greens. I personally was on a call with the mayor with her organization that he's working on to make sure that the greens are being caught. So we got to be careful with some of the verbiage that that we're going.

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He's working on I.

E

Was on the phone I'm saying I'm stating a fact.

A

I know, but the problem is when you.

E

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These types of statements, you're implying that nobody's working on it and I'm telling you people.

E

Are working on it he's all over the state of fact, I.

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E

The fact council chair.

A

I understand I have no problem with this, but you're saying you know, shame we've left it. Let it go. We never checked on it, and these are statements that we got to be careful with, because it can imply the totally wrong impression to potential people that want to have outings there to potential people that want to golf there to and then also not to mention start swirling rumors of development and all that and it's not there.

A

All I'm asking you for councilman is we have to leave like we received an email, there's certain things that the administration does there's certain things that we do. But if you have a concern, I have no problem with that contact either the mayor's office or administration sit down and have that discussion.

A

Some things are not to be aired publicly. Well,.

E

That's okay! I I.

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Some things, so, if right now, we had our mayor, for example, and and look I'll, make something clear, I'm I'd defend, whoever needs to be defended and I'll come after whoever needs to become after that's why I've always rolled that's where I'll always roll. I won't change that, but you don't air the dirty laundry about the things that are potential issues with the golf course publicly. You work on it as administration.

A

We have good people like ali deep. We have good people that are taking it over and somebody's all. I know for a fact they're all over it. You don't sit there and have on every council meeting we're not going to come on every council meeting. I won't do it I'll. Tell you that much and say: let's have all kinds of announcements of all the things that have gone wrong in this golf course. That's not good pr! That's pr, 101, terrible pr that we're given to the golf course.

A

So if you want to remain open as a golf course and you want it to open and you don't want it developed, we got to cut down on these potential a rumors and be arguably bad mouthing. The golf course.

E

What rumors and excuse me for stating facts.

A

Well, for example, when when we make a statement such as nothing is being done on the golf course that means nothing is being done, but that's not a true statement, though. It's not.

E

Good because there is things being done, the pumps are being looked at. That's the only thing I heard.

A

That's absolutely.

E

That's all I heard today.

A

The pumps are being looked at so now, let's go back, we're not being.

E

Looked at again.

A

So now let's go backwards, our job. We are the legislative part of the government. Then there is the executive branch of the government, which in this case, will be the administration and the mayor, okay and then, of course, there's a judicial which we're not directly involved with.

A

Let them do their thing, but they can't every time they do something or find a problem come over and say. Let me make an announcement about all the things that have gone wrong with this golf course. That would be terrible pr. If anybody knows anything about pr, everybody knows about running a business, anything about running a business. Anybody who knows anything about marketing would know that. That's.

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What you do you don't bad mouth, this golf course you clean it up, get it up and running and then launch and that's and that's why that's the mayor point blank question: do you want development there? I actually might I'll ask myself? No, I don't want development there and there's no plans of any development there and there's no conversation of any development there and there's no closed meeting session. Even though you're going to hate this council uh miyaki any conversation about development there.

A

So we gotta just watch these rumors and watch the social media stuff because it's just gonna spread the wrong direction that that's all that's awesome.

E

You know I mean, excuse me, for you know, I guess we don't want to be transparent and give the residents the fact. Nobody.

J

Said nothing about you, you said, but you don't need to know all this stuff. No, no! No! You do need to.

E

Do it in public, you said no, we said.

K

Yeah, it's exactly what you said. You said.

E

We don't need to.

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E

In public again, if.

A

There, whatever potential issues with the golf course and I know, there's a lot of potential issues and I know for a fact you know: counselor miyak is probably not gonna like me saying this, but the last vendor that was there did a lot of damage there without getting into the details. Okay, there's some specific things and you know what they are, but I could sit there and air them out. Okay, because these are things that you take care of.

A

If you are the owner of the property which we are you take care of it, you clean it up, cross the t's dot the eyes, get it up and running, and I know again, administration is all over getting up and running, but it is not to the level that they are comfortable with to get it up and running. I know the event they got taking it over the contra.

A

Oh my god, the not the contact content.

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A

Brothers, they're all over making sure that it gets up and running. I know for a fact, based on the way they've run businesses, they will get things up and running, but we got to give them a chance. We can't every council meeting sit and air out all the potential either bad things about the golf course which there will be. I have bad things going on at home.

A

If I don't walk out of my house, say hello neighbors, let me tell you all the bad things going on in my house, just not a good thing to do. That's all I'm saying: okay, thank you! Any other council members or mayor anybody. I can't see that.

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A

Absolutely but again, there's a lot of things. That's being worked on, nothing is being kept from the audience. They automatically work it and get it up and running and you're going to see a golf course. There's no plans of anything else, but a golf course there: okay, okay.

U

Let's go positive from now on absolutely thank you.

A

Any any other announcements I hear: none next is public comments. Is there any public announcement? Okay,.

V

I try to come to sue sachita. I try to come to as many meetings as I can considering you meet at the same time as dearborn half the time which I also cover. I don't want to just publish your sanitized clean news I want to. I want to publicize all the news, the good bad and the ugly the residents want to know and not everyone can watch and attend the council meetings.

V

I can't even cover all the stuff you you get into, but I'm going to tell them what the residents, what the council people are concerned about- and you just can't give me the nice good news when it's done. Mr abdullah, you have to you, have to expose it warts and all you have to expose the groin pains. I covered you guys when you were fighting with the previous mayor.

V

I sat through those four or five hour long meetings and and played back your quotes and I covered all your fights and squabbles and blood sports. Don't tell me now that it's bad pr to only cover the you know. If you only cover the good events, don't you dare try to hide things from me or I will dig in and I will cover every scandal. I can find.

A

Here so don't again, there's no scandals out there. Okay, so so we got to be careful, some of the words that are being put out.

V

Don't try to hide the bad news for me. There's.

A

No hiding bad news what I will say again if anybody wants any type of business- and this is a business that we are running here- that we want to be not only profitable for our city, not be a loss for a city but be up and running and up and running. Well with that being the case with that being the case, you don't make an announcement, every council meeting, all the things that have gone potentially bad.

A

If there's some major need to be looked at and dealt with absolutely, but when you listen here and you try to just bring out nothing but bad stuff, that's bad business! 101! If you want that golf course to be run right and up and running and successful, you don't air out every single thing that goes wrong in any business, including the newspaper there's things going on, but I I'm gonna have to.

V

Don't scold your fellow councilman because he's delivering anything but good news, that's the business of government! You bring up the things that are the problems you bring them up in a public forum, okay,.

A

I could take this one to the next level, but I won't out of respect. I won't excuse me. I said I could take this to the next level, but out of respect, I won't.

V

You try to smooth things over for everything and and it's your it's your personality but you're, trying to to to you're trying to tell.

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V

Agree with you.

A

All right, so, with due respect now you become a part of the news, so we got to go on to the next subject.

V

I'm telling you that I don't want you to to tell winsel not to mention bad news, because, oh my god, other people might find out about that bad news.

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Yeah, I I want to address this issue about staying in lane. I want to address this issue a little a little bit more.

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Microphone closer.

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Consider to be more of an issue. Can you hear me now? The voice is not normally too uh quiet. um There's a certainly an interest in transparency, but there is a public interest in also making sure that we can do things competently and without jeopardizing the city's position as an entity when it comes to negotiations.

S

No, I mean I know you're rolling your eyes to, but basically what it comes down to is that sometimes, if we are supposed to be so transparent and we are negotiating either with a union or we are negotiating with a potential concession year, we need to make sure that certain things are kept between city officials to ensure that we don't reveal something that might be able to be used against us in negotiations, and so part of what the mayor is referring to is a very important issue in terms of those negotiations.

S

When it comes to these pumps.

S

Without saying too much more but there's more to the story in this particular situation, that involves a communication that I sent, which would be attorney-client privilege and that's all I'm going to end up saying about it and that's part of what you are.

S

What you are hearing and that's part of what the reaction is about so.

S

No, no, no, no you can write about whatever you want to write about. The the issue is, is that some of the discourse that's going on here involves things that aren't being discussed in part because they have to do with the communication. For me that has to do, and that is attorney-client privileged communication.

S

That would be a fair assessment, I believe, and that I think I think, that kind of kind of covers some of the back story, as you might end up putting it in your line of work, but that's part of what what we're dealing with and that's part of the tension. I think that what you're picking up okay.

G

No okay, I'm gonna! Let it go right now: okay,.

A

Okay, go ahead.

F

I just have an announcement. I want to remind everybody that june 8th through the 12th. We have the spirit festival going on. I know it's early, but we're going to start our advertising as soon as we can wednesday. We have the senior jubilee we're also doing the veterans celebration that day and you guys will be receiving a letter from me.

F

We're requesting I'm sorry, wednesday june 8th, yes and we're going to be I'm going to be sending a letter to you guys requesting to sponsor tables for the veterans, we're going to give 50 tickets for the senior jubilee to the veterans and so you'll be receiving those pretty soon and you'll have a chance to sponsor an individual veteran to participate at 10 a person or an entire table, which would be eighty dollars for eight people. So that's what I'm looking at, I think it'll be a really nice addition. For the uh day.

F

Also, we've got um thursday. We've got bassam salaau, starting at seven o'clock friday. We've got magic bus, which is a really good band, friday or saturday. We've got steve king in the diddly's and then sunday we've got denise davis and the motown sensation. So it's going to be really really nice, I'm looking forward to it and I'm excited. We've got a really wonderful concert series set up for the summer.

F

Yes, we will be at warren valley, but we can actually operate our concerts outside without using any of the inside facilities. So um looking forward to a great summer. Thank you.

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All right next, there's, no other announcements, correct! Okay! Next up is any announcements on zoom.

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Go ahead bill director of ordnance building.

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Good evening council chair, hopefully you can hear kevin having some connection issues tonight, I'll give my best shot I'll try to be as briefly wait.

A

Bill we're having a hard time.

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A

You talk louder.

L

Can you hear me now better.

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L

Okay, I'll I'll do the best I can. I want to keep it short as possible. I just wanted to make everybody aware that we are issuing grass violations already. We wrote the first one today so make sure you cut your grass. um Also. uh The mayor has spoken about this in the past, we're gonna start uh ordinance, sweeps uh we're gonna, be sending out letters starting in the tita district.

L

They should be going out the first week of may and the intent is to sweep the area uh probably the weekend of may 20th um like I said this be just be cognizant that we already we already issued some grass violation and we're looking for that already. I just wanted to um say happy administrative professional days. I think that's tomorrow appreciate lynn uh city clerk, mentioning all the names she did. All those people are amazing.

L

I appreciate everybody, especially my uh staff member michelle bianchi personally, and also I'd like to thank uh councilman mo bae doom, uh specifically for helping with the annapolis uh senior class of 2022. All night party um he's amazing. I appreciate what he did and uh councilman mustat made mention of having uh ordinance do um the garbage day violations.

L

uh That's a great concept, but we just don't have the staff for it I'll talk more with them about that later so, like I said, I'm going to keep it short. uh Thank you. Council chair, um everybody have a good evening. Thank you very much. Thank.

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Thought it's a small. I.

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Take the credit uh all I was able to do was reach out to.

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D

Owners, big else pizzeria, will be donating the food to the all night party for the d7 seniors custer co will be donating ice cream to the d7 seniors, shaquille will be donating sweets and then they're having the all night party at.

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D

They were charging them thirty five dollars. I essentially couldn't reduce it down to thirty, which saved them five dollars per student. So I appreciate the recognition, but it goes back to the business owners.

L

Yeah, thank you. I'm sorry. I'm sorry, council chair, no thank you moe. I I I shouldn't have done that. I know you didn't want any accolades.

D

No, no! No! No! No! It's okay! I want to recognize them.

L

Yeah, thank you to all the businesses as well. um I really appreciate it. um I just thank you.

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A

Thank you all right. Next up, if there's no other announcements, uh we'll go ahead and go to public comments, you'll have three minutes. Please state your name, the city you live in in the street. You live on, come on up.

M

Drapkowski columbia street. Mr.

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Mr dearborn heights wayne county michigan, uh mr mayor members of the audience, 1.8 million dollars, is what we pay for the golf course. If you.

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Sold a house for 1.8.

M

Million dollars, don't you think you would change the locks who's at fault for not changing the locks? Was that not suggested to somebody? We have a building and maintenance department. We have a w department, 1.8 million dollars, damn right, I'd be changing the locks.

D

Well, that's a great question honestly: it really is.

M

Who's in charge, who didn't bring up the suggestion change to locks?

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J

On to something positive.

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M

We got a great opportunity to make warm valley a fantastic place. We have a parks and recreation department that can be moved over there.

M

Okay, expand the center, make it a recreational center for everybody, your seniors get them involved your kids, whatever it takes, there's room to do it. We can do something better. With that place, I went through that building when it was being bid on with mr mackey, mr assad and mr isa, and that place is trashed if, for me, I'd be bulldozing it, but these guys have a better sight for what's going to happen.

M

So uh if you want, I can bring my lock painting kit out there tomorrow morning at 10 o'clock and re-key it for you.

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M

I'll do it for free.

M

Okay, I might need a golf cart, though,.

A

Anybody else in the audience has any public comments.

W

All right go ahead: mike blackburn arnold street durbin heights, um a couple things um walkthroughs at city, buildings- wow. I wonder if the maintenance department knows about it, but I have to move on from there. I can't go on. um I'm still wondering where um diameters list is for the um set salaries for the budget. um It seems that's taking a long time um you had to have those numbers to put the numbers together. I was hoping we could get that quicker.

W

I lost my train of thought here. I'm gonna move on the city, westland had um put out their their.

W

They got 13 million million dollars in in arpa money and uh looking at the list of stuff that they approved, they approved five million dollars for their rainy day fund, spread over three three years: um three and a half million dollars for public safety and public service vehicles and equipment, 1.5 million dollars for affordable housing and senior care, through collaboration with per perpetration village of michigan, 1.5 million for building and property improvements at the police department, golf course, and the ice arena.

W

Four hundred fifty thousand dollars for central state park, pond improvements, four hundred thousand dollars for purchase of residential basement flooding mitigation equipment, which happens here um three hundred fifty thousand dollars for hero pay for all full-time employees, excluding elected officials which, if they have about three hundred and fifty employees, that's about a thousand dollars an employee um three hundred thousand dollars for purchases of a tree truck and chipper to be used for power, outage mitigation and 200 000 for public broadband infrastructure in city parks.

W

um I know we put 2.7 million dollars into our rainy day fund and 10 million dollars in the water department um hearing what was going on today, because a few things changed. I think it might be a good idea to maybe only put in 8 million pull 2 million out. Maybe we can use 1.5 million to help with the golf course improvements with the pump with the asphalt pass with that, maybe we can use five hundred thousand dollars for the dispatch improvements.

W

um Maybe that'll help save funds going um I and getting back to the budget here, because that's all I got on that because I'm gonna run short on time. I think we need to streamline department, headset salaries. The controller salary in the last two years has gone up for forty six thousand dollars. I have late laborers I've been working here for 21 years. I don't make forty six thousand dollars a year without working overtime. I think department, head salary should be streamlined.

W

We can use some of that money to get some overtime back to get every union member raises, of course, all of them that are negotiating right now to get new senior coordinators, so the deputy director doesn't have to do it all the time. There's things we can do, I think peop. I think one.

A

Quick second one: I promised you an extra minute so go ahead. Oh okay,.

W

um I think that um we should look at streamline salaries. People are going to tell you well, this is what the industry is paying. Yes, that may be what the industry is paying. The city cannot afford what the industry is paying. The industry pays my labors that I ma manage three to four dollars more an hour than what they're getting paid the industry.

W

My job is five to seven dollars an hour or more you're, not gonna pay me industry wages, you don't go pay them industry wages. We have to live within our means if everybody gets stream streamlined and bring everybody up slowly, I think that's what needs to be done. I think 115 000 is ridiculous right now, especially since you don't know who that person is if that person's, actually gonna work out, because we had one department head not too long ago.

W

He botched a lot of things up and it's costing us a lot of money to fix it right now.

W

And that will be it for right now. Thank you. Thank you. Mike.

G

Anybody else in the audience.

A

Come on up, sir.

I

My name is ron frenzy live on fairwood street in dublin heights and eight months ago the city cut down a city tree between my sidewalk and curb, and the stump is still there, and I was just wondering when it's been eight months. When will the stump be removed.

A

Have you contacted dpw, sir.

I

That's the question: who do I contact for that? If.

A

You just call dpw, I don't have their number remember.

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If, after you're done, sir robert conrad in the back there, that's the director of dpw he'll be able to help you out.

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A

Just a little side note: it's two separate companies. If I'm ever taken to that correct bob conrad that cut the tree down and then a different company that does his thumb.

G

Come on up bob.

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Robert conrad director dbw.

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Dearborn tree when they take a tree down for us, which would be one of the trees that my crew, you know, wouldn't take down, maybe because it's a larger sized tree they take down a tree and stump it. At the same time, when we trace down a tree with my own crews, we do not have the stumping equipment to take down or to do the stump. So it goes on a tree list and we have a separate contractor that takes care of our stumps.

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So um you know there. It.

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A rather lengthy list I like it to be shorter than it is, but you know again, you know we rely on that contractor to take down the stumps for us and you know sometimes it does take longer than others to get them out. But you know every tree we take down, gets put on a stump list and basically they work in the order in which they are. I mean um you know, I'm sorry that it takes eight months to get a stump, but that's the reality of you know the contractor that we're working with.

X

I guess I can talk to my staff and see if they think we should look for another contractor.

X

Should uh that can get it done quicker, but you know I guess that that's the best answer. I can give you right now. Okay,.

A

Can you help the gentleman, though, with his just mister.

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Let me scroll right before you counseling.

C

Just on that note he's been waiting: eight months, the city cut down a bunch of trees on wilson between beach, daily and and inkster. Those stumps have been there for about two and a half or three years, yeah.

D

Yeah, that's exactly in.

C

The city, okay, the stumps- are still there.

A

But just to be a little fair to the dpw, they.

C

Are sure I understand, but I'm just saying.

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C

Eight, but if it's a contractor that's got to come out, then we need to look for somebody else.

D

So I just have a quick question and- and I actually had this conversation with the mayor today too in his office- uh you know we have this long list of trees that need to be trimmed or they need to be removed or the storm stays ruined. Do we have a plan set up hey? This is the plan. This is what we're gonna execute, there's so much we can do do we have anything set up a strategic plan of what we're gonna do to minimize this uh uh a list.

X

We have a list of all the trees they go out and evaluate them. They prioritize them on a scale of one to five. Fives would be a critical tree that would take it. You know a priority, so I.

D

Mean but we have do, we have a plan to minimize the list. I mean I understand this. We.

X

Had you that we're going, we have our staff, you know when you know we can't do trees every day, because we need to sweep. We need to do other things again. You know we prioritize our list. We take care of the fives and fours.

X

You know, unfortunately, with the staff I have and the days I have to work. You know there are some things that remain on lists a lot longer than they probably need to be, but I still have a budget I have to work within um you.

D

Know the budget cover to cut down those trees, and what do we do with the residents that keep calling about the tree issue? We just tell them hey. I can't help.

X

If, if they're trims, you know, unfortunately I can tell you that you're on the list- and you know we'll get to you someday, but I mean I have to work within a budget. I just.

J

You know I don't.

X

Have an unlimited budget, I don't have unlimited hours, I don't have an unlimited staff, I mean um I can't wave a magic wand and make it all disappear. I wish I could, but you know, that's not the reality. The reality is, I have to work within my limitations and you know I think the crew or the people that I have are doing a good job of prioritizing what is dangerous and what needs to come down and what is just a nuisance or an eyesore.

X

um You know which is pretty much the ones that you know don't get addressed and those are the ones you hear about all the times. The nuisances and the eye stores they're, not dangerous. You know when you have to work within a limited budget nuisances and eyesores, don't get the attention they should. What.

A

About the ones that lift the sidewalks up on people's sidewalks, where they become a trip hazard, are those considered a new.

X

Songs tho, those are those are the the the.

A

Responsibility.

X

To take care of those to you know, sidewalks are the homeowners responsibilities.

A

I'm talking about when the trees branches are starting to lift up.

X

So when the sidewalks were placed the contractor doing the sidewalk replacement should be cutting those roots out so that that doesn't occur in the future.

X

um The the the tree coming down, I mean I, I don't have the resources to take down everything.

D

When I walked through the south end- and I was knocking on doors this last election- I swear to you every street I walked on. There were branches that were massive. I wanted to walk my side, my dog, I couldn't be able to do that and that's just unfair. I know it's not you, I'm just I'm emotional about it. That's all it just sucks to be able to say, there's nothing. We can do.

X

And I mean I don't have any validation to back this up, because I haven't been here that long, but the crew that I work with the supervisory staff right now. They tell me that, on windy days, like we had last week, we got a few- you know down limbs and branches, but they said this is nothing like what they would have had three four years ago, that you know they would have been on branches and in limbs for an entire week, picking them up.

X

So I mean I think, they've made proactive corrections to get some of these trees, trimmed and things. But you know again, you know we're a small department with limited funds and we're working as hard as we can the best we can with what we have. I.

D

I believe I we had a conversation council chair. If that's okay, ali deeb, the word we were going to put together a resolution so that if the tree that's on the city's property was massive and the resident wanted to paint or get it removed and replace it. We were going to put something like that together uh and I believe our corporation councilmaniac. Then it just disappeared, but I remember speaking about this last summer about this, and we said it was. It was in the works of writing this up.

X

Can we can we? Can we open that ordinance? Amendment you'd have to amend the ordinance to allow that right now.

D

The ordinance doesn't.

X

Allow you to do that.

D

I mean I mean we can't tell the resident there's nothing, we can do it's just going to stay dead. I can't tell you you can't cut it. The city can't afford to cut it.

X

Dead, we have the labor to cut it dead, we can take care of, but then we can't trim them. Listen.

D

We got master trees in the city.

D

Your neighbor on house, I saw that neighbor all.

A

Right guys, we got to stay with the podium guys.

D

I'm sorry, I agree with her.

A

All right, no, we got to keep this on the podium. Let's keep not a windy day, nothing! Okay,.

A

Please, okay! uh Anybody else have any quite quick question from uh mr conrad yeah he's gonna. Okay, one last one.

D

G

Make this a studies, I know I'm not just gonna stop.

D

And mr connor does a great job I swear to god. I want you guys to know the guy goes. He's got to worry about tree sweeping street. Sweeping he's got to worry about water main breaks. He worries about so many other things that are really happening and you're only one director. I understand that, but I want you to know that it also becomes hard on all of us from the administration down to the council.

D

When somebody's calling us constantly saying help me with this tree, I feel helpless that you can't get anybody to cut it and I'm just venting, I'm not even saying it it's hard on us. Where I say you can't take out your own trunk. You can't take down your own tree.

D

You can't trim your tree if you do you're gonna get a ticket and if it's dead too bad, you got to live with it and we'll get to it because there's a long list of a hundred other trees that you know, I'm sorry there's a list and it's embarrassing. Okay. Why.

A

Don't we do this um tomorrow when we talk, maybe we'll set like about a 30-minute study session sometime soon, because I spoke with the director was about a week ago or something like that we talked about. Maybe the ordinance may need to be uh adjusted.

A

So we'll do maybe a study session, maybe half hour study session, see where we're at and then see where we go from there and.

D

For the record, it's completely oh, it's not, mr! It's not on him!.

A

It's never the position, it's never the person, it's the position. Okay,.

D

That's not the position either. I swear it's not the person or the position. I'm.

S

D

This out, I'm telling you it's just it sucks we're putting this predicament. It's challenging sucks.

A

Okay, but let's, let's keep this up here, please, okay! Thank you very much, mr conrad, any other. Any other public comments he's.

C

He's still got his tom, we.

A

Also had something.

C

Else he's still got time.

A

Okay, come on up.

I

But besides the stump after they after they uh clear the stump, there's all sawdust, the extra contractor says they don't pick it up, who picks up the sawdust.

A

Okay, but again, you're gonna be seeing mr con, mr conrad and he'll you'll he'll be able to have a full discussion with you on that. Okay.

I

Then just two other things one is: everybody knows that inflation is terrible with the inflation is the highest in 40 years, and it's bad because we pay higher gas prices, food prices, but there's a bonus for the city. It has to do with property.

I

Property goes up and up and up what does that mean more taxes, so so, a year from now the city could actually have a special windfall because it was just announced as an example from february last year to february this year the average price of houses in the whole country went up 20 and it could be higher. So I would like to request maybe that the new city assessor would but by next week it should be an easy thing to do.

I

uh Come up with a plan and just saying if the, if the price of the house is next year, go up, you know the price of houses this year go up. 15, 20, 25 30, how much additional money will the city have that's a bonus of the windfall.

A

They'll definitely look into it, but just fyi because of proposal, a the amount of taxes that any resident pays provided, they're still living in the property as a homestead is capped, no more than the cpi index or maximum, which is consumer price index or a maximum of five percent. So it is captive. Just.

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A

The house went up, twenty percent doesn't mean the.

I

A

Will not go up, 20. didn't.

I

Know that okay and then the last thing is one of the best mayors. I think in the whole, in the whole state is that mayor duggan, he really is a is a where of a tornado, I'm trying to figure out. You know how to get extra money yesterday and in today's news uh he mentioned that they picked up over 100 million from the federal government because of uh because of special uh build back better programs, and one of the things they picked up was a brand like. I said they picked up 100 million dollars.

I

One of the things they picked up was a brand new rec center. Our special kim wants to make it make a new rec center. They got it for free. We could get it for free, so I I thought, maybe maybe, and since the mayor already did it mayor duggan, that our mayor plus our rec director kim, could combine find out how they did it and go ahead and get a brand new rec center. All for free.

A

Okay, there is work, I I talked with the administration. I think it was about two or three meetings ago and they are working on sharpening their pencils to add uh a grant manager or grant writer, and that's where a lot of that money comes in from from the federal level. Oh.

I

It is yeah because I thought, because on that at last april, 12th meeting you had a miss uh racial appointment said that uh she has a way to get like 25 million dollars through covert relief.

I

It sounds crazy, but but but all that money is all there. It's just that if you would work with her and give her an incentive of a big bonus, you know, anytime, you can pick up 25 million and pay somebody like a million hey. That's that's that's a bargain. I mean I'll. Do that all day I'll do that all day? Okay, thanks! Thank you. Yeah appreciate.

A

It any other public comments in the audience councilman. Just please announce if you're speaking as a.

E

Resident president resident of dearborn heights tom winslow, I live on tulane street. uh To answer one of his questions. My neighbor had a tree cut down and the stump dug out and just the company that does the stump digging or chipping. They leave all the wood chips there, but the city does come by and they pick up the wood chips and they put dirt down topsoil down. I believe they're still doing that, aren't they director comrade yeah, yeah and speaking of director. Comrade these guys are doing a fantastic job.

E

I mean people have seen a couple facebook posts. I did with these guys working on sundays, sunday mornings and digging trenches and water main breaks, risk literally risking their lives.

E

You know for for the residents, enterprise make sure they have proper utilities and uh they should be commended and with all our other departments too, and one thing and he he won't say it, but I will one of the biggest. The newest uh throwbacks is uh uh the elimination of overtime for all of our different departments.

E

You know only in emergency situations, so I'm sure that has a lot to do with. You know handcuffing him and and getting the extra stuff done, like picking up the branches and stuff, hopefully we'll get over that hump pretty soon and get back to you know the regular overtime and um I'm back up here talking. You know about the golf golf course we as a city, you guys as a city council, um uh voted and uh gave the contract or the bid to uh a company.

E

uh I think it was five five or six weeks five weeks ago and at that time I'm sure you didn't realize that it would take a long time to deal with this and sure. There's issues that come up- and you know we don't know what the exact issues are, but they're hopefully legitimate, and uh but we can't the council can't wait uh another month or another, two months or maybe all summer or maybe by christmas.

E

um I think the council should get together and set up a time frame for this another couple weeks and after two months you think. Well, you know back in when they, when the council agreed on this vendor. You know two months of uh contract negotiations. Is your limit after that someone's gotta we gotta go back, put it out back out for bids again I mean that's.

E

I think it would be a fair thing because we've, given everyone, the city and the vendor enough time to birth things off they're, not they're, never going to be worked out after a couple months and recently in our recent budget hearings, there was a a new position created for an I.t position and greatly needed you know, and but it's a pretty high salary, and I guess that's the going salary.

E

I don't know it's 115 000 a year, but the thing that gets me is the the benefit package for this person and this position it's a sixty thousand dollar benefit package and that's sixty thousand dollars more than we're offering our union employees this year.

E

This person's gonna get sixty thousand dollars with the benefits and our union employees aren't getting anything because the city doesn't have any money and I'm sticking up for our union people as a resident, and I think everyone should just not sit back and say, let's wait to see what happens. Let's voice our opinion and let's get this contract set up. It's been almost a year. Thank you.

E

A

Anyone else in the audience.

G

A

One sec: I give people on on zuban opportunity anybody on zoom, that's.

G

Looking to comment.

G

All right man look.

B

At everybody's, giving them a minute, but I don't see any hands up anybody unzoom.

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D

A

To adjourn second motion made by councilman.

C

Second, don't run off, did he go seconded.

A

Seconded by councilman muscat uh motion adjourned any all in favor, please state aye, aye those opposed the eyes have it. Thank you very much good night.