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From YouTube: Dearborn Heights Study Session - 5/17/22
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The Dearborn Heights Study Session regarding the Warren Valley Golf Course taking place Tuesday, May 17th 2022 in the Dearborn Heights Council Chambers and via Zoom.
A
All
right,
madame
clerk,
we
all
ready
on
your
end,
recording
stan
we're
good.
Okay,
all
right
welcome
everyone.
This
is
we're
in
the
city
council
chambers
today
is
tuesday,
may
17th,
and
we
have
a
study
session
on
the
warren
valley.
Golf
course
before
we
start
for
those
that
are
not
familiar
with
why
we
are
here.
This
is
specifically
in
regards
to
our
resolution.
A
I'm
going
to
give
council
member
tom
wenzel,
who
had
originally
brought
the
resolution
forward,
an
opportunity
to
give
at
least
an
abbreviation
to
the
those
members
in
the
audience,
as
far
as
the
thought
process,
direction,
etc,
etc,
and
then
we'll
go
ahead
and
go
from
there
into
discussing
the
resolution
that's
been
put
together
by
and
we
will
not
be
by
the
way
to
make
it
clear.
We
will
not
be
voting
on
it
today.
A
We
are
just
having
discussion
today
for
the
resolution
that
was
put
together
by
our
corporation
counselor,
kiri
miyatki,
so
council,
council
councilman
tom
munson.
Can
you.
B
B
Okay,
thank
you.
Council
chair.
I
didn't
just
come
up
with
this
idea
this
this
couple
months
or
this
year.
Ever
since
I've
been
on
city
council,
I've
asked
for
some
kind
of
documentation
on
restrictions
on
development
of
the
golf
course
which
we
were
told
originally
when
we
purchased
the
golf
course
that
there
would
be
no
development,
but
every
time
I
asked
about
it,
you
know
dozens
of
times.
B
No,
no
one
produced
anything
in
a
contract
which
you
know.
Maybe
there
wasn't
something
in
there,
and
I
was
told
by
some
of
the
council
members
that
anything
that
has
to
be
that
wants
to
be
done
on.
The
golf
course
would
have
to
be
voted
on
by
city
council.
So
I
got
thinking
I
said.
Well,
you
know
why
should
seven
people,
not
even
seven
four
people,
have
the
power
to
dictate
what
happens
in
this
golf
course?
B
Instead,
I
think
it
should
be
the
residence
to
decide
what
happens
in
this
golf
course,
and
I
found
out
through
my
talking
and
my
research
that
the
only
way
that
could
happen
is
if
it
was
put
in
the
charter
and
to
put
in
the
charter
there
had
to
be
a
resolution
drawn
up,
and
since
I
originally
introduced
my
resolution
and
corporation
council
drafted
this.
B
I
wanted
to
make
an
amendment
to
this
resolution
to
stipulate
that
this
language,
which
prohibits
development
of
the
golf
course
north
of
the
clubhouse
or
north
of
the
banquet
facilities,
which
means
the
banquet
phillips
facilities,
could
be
improved
on
some
other
structures
as
far
as
gazebos
or
outdoor
entertainment
area
in
the
parking
lot
area.
That
would
be.
That
would
be
permitted.
B
But
I
want
the
more
language
added
that
a
deed
restriction
be
put
on
this
in
the
event
that
the
property
is
sold
that
this
this.
This
ban
on
sort
of
ban
on
development
would
carry
on
the
property
regardless
of
the
city
sold
it
or
not,
and
this
was
brought
to
my
attention
by
corporation
council
when
I
frigid
amended
this
and
he
said
well,
you
know
he
at
the
meeting.
B
He
said
that
would
be
no
good
after
it's
sold,
so
I
want
the
language
we
put
in
there
that
there'd
be
a
deed
restriction
on
this
property
which
would
carry
this
this
development
prohibition
on
development
of
the
pro
of
the
property.
Thank
you.
C
Let's
just
hypothetically
say
a
multi-billionaire
buys
the
warren
valley
golf
course
and
says
I
don't
want
to
develop
any
happening
in
city.
I
want
to
build
a
huge
hotel,
so
people
can
come
in
here.
They
can
sleep
at
this
hotel
and
they
can
golf
here.
That's
my
first
question
second
question:
let's
just
say:
multi
billion
also
comes
in
and
says
I
want
to.
C
Let's
just
say
we
want
to
expand
on
the
clubhouse
and
you
want
an
indoor
pool
inside
with
a
bigger
banquet
with
expanding.
You
know
to
be
able
to
accommodate
to
bigger
weddings.
Is
that
going
to
be
restricted
from
happening,
and
so
I
just
have
know
a
bunch
of
questions
on
that.
I
am
also
for
I'm
against
building
homes,
1
000,
let's
just
say
down
the
street,
we
wanted
to
move
downtown.
We
wanted
to
make
city
hall
at
ward
valley
ran
alongside
that
building
and
it
becomes
a
centralized
location.
C
I
know
that
I've
had
conversations
with
the
fire
department
that
have
told
me
it
would
actually
be
an
easier
response
to
be
able
to
get
across
most
of
the
north
end
of
the
city.
If
there
was
a
potential,
the
fire
department
was
there,
I
mean,
and
these
are
just
so.
I
don't
want
to
restrict
what
could
potentially
happen
in
the
near
future
completely
against
building
on
the
golf
course.
I
want
it
to
stay
a
golf
course.
One
thousand
percent
put
it
on
the
record.
C
Do
we
tell
each
other,
you
know
we
don't
know
what
the
future
is
to
hold.
Nobody
knows
what
this
future
is
to
hold
and
what's
the
karma,
I
want
it's
been
a
hundred
years.
I've
been
a
golf
course:
let's
keep
it
going
golf
course.
We
don't
know
if
you
know
down
the
line.
This
could
be
a
prominent
golf
course
for
the
city,
where
you're
now
building
a
hotel.
I
go
to
traverse
city
every
year
with
my
bunch
of
my
friends
to
go
golf
which
I'm
not
a
great
golfer.
We
stay
at
a
hotel.
C
C
Now
they're
able
to
use
the
amenities
like
like
a
hotel
or
what,
if
any
hall
becomes,
so
we
really
need
to
be
very
cautious
and
I'm
all
for
putting
something
on
the
ballot
that
says,
but
I
want
to
make
sure
that
if
corporation
council
is
going
to
address
something
that
we
have
to
keep
in
mind
that
we
are
not
going
to
exile
all
of
our
solutions,
that
is
my
only
concern
on
that
council.
Councilman.
C
B
Glad,
okay,
I
can
answer
all
three
with
two
answers:
number
one.
This
is
only
north
of
the
the
of
the
clubhouse
okay,
anything
north
of
the
clubhouse,
where
the
man
with
due
respect
it's
it's
only
like
20
feet
to
this
big
drop
off
and
then
the
golf
course.
So
the
golf
the
the
banquet
facilities
could
be
approved.
You
can
put
a
swimming
pool
in
there.
If
you
want
you
could.
Oh.
B
The
second
answer-
and
this
is
the
reason
I'm
doing
it-
is
to
let
the
residents
decide
this
could
be
put
on.
We
could
say
no
development
anywhere
and
this
november,
the
residents
vote
on
it
and
they
say:
okay,
no
development,
but
then
a
multi-billionaire
comes
in
and
says
hey.
I
want
to
give
the
city
a
billion
dollars
and
then
it
goes
back
to
the
residence.
B
A
A
F
Yeah
I
just
want
to
put
this
in
the
context,
though,
the
language
that
we
have
here
does
not
necessarily
reflect
whatever
it
is
that
councilman
wenzel
is
going
to
say
or
what
he
wants.
The
language
I
put
together
was
bare
bones
language,
based
on
what
I
knew
at
the
time
that
I
was
drafting
this
based
on
the
motion
that
I
received
from
the
city
clerk's
office.
F
So
if
councilman
wenzel
ends
up
saying
well,
it's
going
to
do
this,
but
it's
going
to
do
this,
then
just
everyone
needs
to
recognize
this
language
is
all
going
to
have
to
end
up
being
gone
over
and
changed
and
is
going
to
end
up
having
to
reflect
these
different
things.
This
language,
in
and
of
itself.
You
know
just
saying
development
development's
a
pretty
broad,
very,
very.
F
F
G
Counselor,
thank
you,
council,
chair
and
thank
you,
mr
miyaki
and
councilman
wenzo,
but
when
we
first
purchased
this
back,
I
forget
what
year
it
was,
but
myself
and
robert
constant
dave,
abdullah
lisa,
hicks
clayton
tom
barry.
G
But
I
haven't
united
and
I'm
thinking
about
this
today.
Development
is
a
broad
term.
For
instance,
we
may
have
someone
who
wants
to
say
you
know.
The
golf
course
is
flooding
so
bad
we're
getting
more
and
more
rain.
Now
than
ever
before,
say
we
want
to
convert
part
of
the
golf
course
into
a
theme
park
or
some
sort
of
other
recreation
area
and
still
keep
the
unflooded
18-hole
horse
available
for
golfing.
G
So
I
think
development
is
a
not
a
very
good
word
to
put
in,
because
development
is
hey.
You
could
develop
a
better
golf
course,
but
I
I
understand
where
the
what's
what's
coming
from
here
is
we
don't
want
those
a
community
built
there
and
and
as
far
as
having
a
hotel
built
there,
that's
going
to
be
highly
unlikely,
but
there's
room
in
front
of
the
clubhouse
for
something
like
that.
G
Maybe,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
is,
I
think,
a
deed
restriction
would
be
a
lot
easier
than
doing
this
and
making
sure
it
stays
a
golf
course
through
a
deed
restriction
or
go
back
to
nature
as
it
would
go,
would
be
better
off
now,
if
I'm
speaking,
if
I'm
not
saying
this
right,
a
corporation
council
can
chime
in
because
I
believe
maybe
a
deed
restriction
would
be
something
that
would
be
better
than
than
something
like
this.
If
you
were.
G
Yeah,
if
we
are,
if
again
like
councilman
once
said,
you
got
seven
people
up
here.
That
can
say
four
of
them
just
say:
okay,
we're
gonna,
sell
it
okay
and
that's
a
good
possibility,
because
at
the
first
at
first
we
were
all
all
agreeing
on
houses
being
built
there.
Until
the
late
march,
horvath
started
saying,
wait
a
minute,
that's
a
flood
plain
and
it
brought.
G
New
series
of
thinking
and
we
started
holding
meetings
on
it
and
councilwoman
god
rest
her
soul,
marge
horvath
was
absolutely
100
percent
correct.
Not
only
will
those
houses
have
a
possibility
of
flooding
is
the
adjacent
neighborhoods
would
be
saturated
with
water
also,
so
I
understand
the
councilman's
concerns
and
I
would
not
want
to
see
that
happen
at
all,
but
you
know
5
10,
15
years
from
now,
none
of
us
may
be
sitting
up
here
and
you're
going
to
have
a
whole
brand
new
administration
and
the
crew
says.
Well,
you
know
what
we
don't
need.
G
F
F
C
F
By
the
way-
but
you
know
but
but
golf
could
potentially
go
the
same
sort
of
way.
Well,
then
you
have
a
deed
restriction,
saying
you
have
to
have
a
golf
course
on
this
property
when
you
could
end
up
actually
using
it
for
perhaps
some
other
public
purposes,
and
that's
one
of
the
problems
with
the
whole
development
angle
on
that
essentially
in
in
essence,
you
might
sit
there
and
say
yeah.
F
Maybe
we
would
want
to
end
up
using
more
of
it
north
of
the
clubhouse
to
end
up
putting
in
a
new
city
hall
and
a
new
fire
station,
for
example,
but
getting
back
your
original
point
in
terms
of
just
the
mechanics
of
it?
Yes,
you
could
end
up
doing
a
deed
restriction,
a
conservation
easement.
You
would
probably
need
to
have
someone
who
would
be
able
to
enforce
that.
But
then,
after
you
have
that,
how
are
you
going
to
potentially
end
up
releasing
that
if
it
ends
up
being
there
and
then
there's
no
democratic
control?
G
Put
in
something
so
either
way
we
go
deed
restriction
or
like,
or
this
is
not
not
going
to
help
us
unless
we
put
in
something
specific
like
no
urban
housing,
or
things
of
that
nature
can
be
put
on
that
property.
G
G
F
Well
then,
I
would,
I
would
look
at
it
based
on
what
your
comments
were.
Councilman
there
would
be
two
types
of
things
that
could
be
done
and
they
could
be
done
as
a
charter
amendment,
because
then
it
would
have
to
go
to
the
voters
to
end
up
making
a
decision.
One
of
them
would
be
not
to
allow
the
property
to
end
up
being
sold
without
a
vote
by
the
voters,
allowing
for
the
sale
to
end
up
taking
place
and
and
and
to
be
frank-
that's
always
been.
You
know
just
this
language.
F
F
The
other
thing
is
to
end
up
refining
and
having
a
better
notion
of
what
is
really
being
sought
here,
because
you
know
that
was
my
question.
Okay.
Well,
what
is
it
we're
trying
to?
What
is
the
harm
that
we
are
trying
to
prohibit
we're
saying
development,
but
that
term
is
extraordinarily
broad
in
this
context,
too
vague
and
too
ambiguous
to
end
up
being
as
useful.
We
sat
here
and
said
we
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
not
going
to
be
any
residential.
The
property
will
not
be
used
for
residential
or
industrial
or
other
things.
F
It
will
end
up
being
used
for,
let's
say
more
recreational,
and
then
that
would
also
be
part
of
a
charter
amendment
so
that
it
could
be
revisited,
but
only
if
the
people
voted
for
that
to
end
up
taking
taking
place
and
then
if
there
was
some
sort
of
big
development
proposal,
then
there
would
be
a
lot
of
public
attention
to
it.
So
that
would
kind
of
be
the
protection
against
some
sort
of
overreach
or
potential
improper
actions
done
by
some
other
city
council
body
in
the
future.
G
E
B
You
know
we
can
figure
out
what
the
development
the
definition
of
development
is,
and
I
mean
this-
this
is
a
great
first
step.
You
know
it's
off
to
you
gary
for
doing
this.
Thank
you.
We
could
go
over
this
and
everybody
put
their
two
cents
in
like
we
should,
but
you
know
bottom
line,
no
matter
what
happens.
B
Saying
you
were
saying
you
know
that
you
could
do
if
you
do
two
two
things
you
said
the
deed
restriction
or
this
our
hands
are
tight,
but
only
with
the
deed
restriction.
Well,
the
demonstration
is
only
for
settlement
yeah
for
selling
it
yeah
exactly.
F
The
the
the
issue
with
the
deed
restriction
is
being
able
to
reverse
it
with
a
charter
amendment,
it
can
be
reversed
by
a
vote
of
the
people,
all
right,
so
it
it
it
is
to
my
sensibilities.
Obviously
this
is
is
my
senses.
Is
that
you
know
it's
a
democracy.
It
should.
Basically,
if
there's
going
to
be
a
vote
of
the
people,
then
that
should
end
up
taking
precedence
in
this
particular
situation.
F
That
seems
to
me
to
be
a
good
way
to
deal
with
councilman
wenzel's
concern
about
the
shall
we
just
say
like
rogue
city
council.
That
gives
way
to
special
interest
and
just
decides
to
you
know,
sell
the
property
to
sell
the
property
for
a
song
or
something
along
those
lines.
So
you
have
that
restriction,
not
as
a
deed
restriction,
but
in
the
city
charter,
and
then
you
have
an
additional
restriction
dealing
with,
while
the
city
owns
the
property
that
the
property
could
only
end
up
being
used
for
certain
certain
purposes.
F
A
If
that
happens,
to
be
in
today's
world
golf
great
if
it
happens
to
be
maybe
a
swimming
pool
great,
if
that's
what
the
residents
found,
if
people,
if
they
want
to
expand,
not
the
whole
thing,
obviously,
okay,
if
they
want
to
have
soccer
there,
any
type
of
whatever
is
in
the
best
interest
of
the
residence,
the
the
administration,
whoever
is
in
place
at
the
particular
time
that
they
bring
something
forward.
Administration
or
the
city
council
wants
to
bring
forward.
A
That's
what
it
should
be
if
it
happens
to
be
baseball
and
that's
what's
in
great,
if
it
happens
to
be
some
fancy
new
sport
that
just
came
out
and
all
the
residents
want
it
great
but
to
put
any
type
of
restriction
on
ourselves
hey.
I
want
to
make
it
clear
by
the
way,
I'm
I'm
very
transparent.
What
I
say
I
don't
care,
no
housing
is
going
to
be
built
there.
I
have
personally
no
plans,
there's
been
no
co.
A
I've
said
this:
a
class
council
meeting
no
conversation
with
any
council
members
any
sessions,
any
meetings,
anything
with
the
mayor,
anything
with
the
residents
nothing's
been
built
there.
So
let's
get
that
out
of
the
equation,
but
will
something
be
done
there
either
now
or
in
the
near
future,
or
even
in
the
far
future,
to
improve
the
property
as
far
as
being
an
entertainment
venue
for
residents?
Yes,
I'd
be
all
for
it.
A
So
if
somebody
brought
something
forward
right
now
like
we're
at
shenandoah,
like
I
mentioned
at
the
last
meeting
and
they
had
a
gym
nice
gym
there.
So
if
somebody
came
to
me
right
now
and
said,
hey
I'm
going
to
invest
in
this
thing
and
put
in
a
gym
for
residents
to
be
able
to
use
I'd,
be
all
for
it.
Why
should
it
be
only
for
golfers
if
res?
If
I
want
to
go
work
out,
people
want
to
go
work
out
great
if
somebody
says
to
me
they're
into
bowling
now,
hypothetically
and
obviously
that's
crazy
there.
A
Saying
whatever
particular
entertainment
venue
that
the
residents
want
I'd
be
all
for
it,
we
can't
put
restrictions
on
ourselves,
I'm
always
going
to
be
against
that
as
far
as
deed
restrictions.
You
do
that
just
to
play
in.
In
plain
terms,
I've
explained
to
you
in
plain
terms:
if
I
owned
a
building,
that's
a
restaurant,
it's
my
restaurant
and
I
want
to
move
out.
Let's
say
burger
king
for
example,
but
they
don't
want
mcdonald's
to
move
in
there.
A
They
could
sell
that
building
and
put
a
deep
restriction
that
no
restaurant
is
to
be
put
in
there
by
the
next
person
that
buys
it
so
so
buys
it
we,
I
could
put
a
deed
restriction
on
them.
If
I
own
that
building,
they
cannot
open
up
a
restaurant
there,
because
I
don't
want
a
mcdonald's
to
open
up
there
when
burger
king
moves
out.
That's
when
you
put
in
deep
restrictions,
but
you
don't
do
it
on
yourself.
A
I
just
can't
comprehend
that
concept
as
far
as
entertainment,
absolutely
I'm
always
going
to
be
for
an
entertainment,
any
type
of
entertainment
venue
that
the
residents
see
fit
in
the
future.
In
addition
to
that,
we
got
our
city
hall
here,
beautiful
nice
facilities
here
as
far
as
the
city
council
chambers.
Let's
call
it
the
way
it
is.
We
don't
have
a
decent
roof
on
the
property.
Well,
now
something's
been
you
know,
put
on,
but
we
didn't
have
a
decent
roof
on
the
property.
Everything
throughout
city
hall
is
very
old.
A
We
all
know
we
could
talk
about
the
elephant
in
the
room.
Again,
we
could
all
just
be
blind
to
this
and
think.
Okay,
we
keep
the
city
all
for
another
20
30
40
years,
but
the
reality
is
eventually
something's
got
to
be
done
here
and
if
that
happens,
to
be
on
a
half
acre,
acre
or
two
or
three
I
don't
know.
I
mean
I'm
just
thinking
out
loud
here
at
one
of
those
acres
and
we
turn
it
into
one
golf
course
18
holes.
Then
that's
something
to
be
discussed
now
in
terms
of
well.
A
I
want
the
residents
to
to
decide
absolutely
I'm
all
for
the
residents
deciding,
but
the
residents
decide
when
they
vote
for
council
members
to
make
decisions
if
every
decision,
because,
based
on
that
theory,
we
throw
that
on
everything,
let's
make
the
residents
decide,
then
you
wouldn't
have
council
members
any
longer.
Everything
needs
to
be
decided
on,
because
we're
going
to
go
to
this,
why
don't
we
go
to
the
berwin
center?
Let's
put
a
little.
B
H
B
You
know
build
a
theme
park
there
or
a
water
park
or
you
know
five
hotels,
but
let
the
residents
decide,
I
mean
that's
all
I'm
saying
you
can.
Let's
just
say:
let's
put
this
on
the
charter
amendment
and
let
the
residents
decide
that
for
now
this
year
it's
going
to
stay
a
golf
course,
and
maybe
it's
next
year
we
go
hey
this
guy's
over
here
and
he
wants
to
build
a
you
know.
B
Water,
you
know,
give
you
know
water
park,
amusement
park,
pay
the
city
a
million
dollars
a
year
and
then
okay,
voters,
you
want
that
yeah,
but
they
want
they
get
it.
If
they
don't
want
it,
then
it
doesn't
happen.
All
I'm
saying
is
no
everybody's,
saying
all
these
ideas
and
you're
losing
the
thing.
Let
the
voters
decide
they'll
keep
saying.
A
That
sounds
like
a
beautiful
pc
thing.
Let
the
voters
decide,
like
other
people,
are
against
voters
deciding
the
voters
decide
by
voting
for
people
to
get
into
office
to
make
decisions,
I'm
not
for
building
on
there,
but
I'm
all
for
any
type
of
development
that
makes
it
accessible
to
a
lot
more
residents
that
want
different
venues
of
entertainment.
That's
all
I'm
saying,
and
if
it
happens
to
be
not
that
happy,
we
got
a
problem
with
the
fire
department.
A
I
mean
I
could
hope,
I'm
not
going
to
open
it
up
about
that,
but
we
know
that
at
one
point
or
another
eventually,
another
fire
department
needs
to
be
built
and
there
was
a
study
done
by
them
and
they
figured
that
the
best
spot
by
that
particular
company
that
did
that
study
to
be
able
to
put
the
most
centralized
location
for
north
dublin
heights.
Fire
department
was
along
warren
avenue
and
I
can't
remember
if
it
was
beaten
for
something
else,
but
that's
also
an
option,
maybe
city
hall,
maybe
a
pool,
maybe
a
kid's
place.
B
Chair
this
is
what
they
said
this.
This
resolution
pertains
to.
B
You
know
everything
north
of
the
clubhouse
and
I
think
everything
south
of
the
club
also
has
got
to
be
10
acre,
20
acres,
there,
probably
more
than
that
of
park,
now
a
parking
yeah
and
if
you've
ever
if
you've
ever
attended
an
event
there,
a
major
event
they
had
warren
evans
has
a
golf
outing
every
year
and
he
had
to
cancel
it
this
year,
but
he's
and
that's
the
biggest
event
at
warren
valley
and
maybe
half
of
the
parking
lots
are
filled.
You
know.
B
B
A
Saying
councilman
is
that's
why
they
elect
people
into
office.
Hopefully
they
like
good
people
to
office
to
make
their
decisions.
That's
all
I'm
saying
and
if
we're
going
to
put
any
type
of
deed
restriction,
that
would
not
be
I
mean
the
council
can
decide
on
that.
I
don't
think.
In
my
opinion,
personal
opinion.
I
don't
think
it's
that
smart.
A
B
There's
another
thing
you
know
and
then
what
about
I
mean
you're
gonna
build
a
water
park
out
there.
If
so,
I'm
saying
council
chair
is
you
know
what
build
anything,
but
just
let
the
residents
decide
this.
You
know
they
voted
for
us
right.
Seven
of
us
four
can
make
a
decision
for
62
000..
I
said
that
several
times
already-
and
this
is
the
biggest
thing
we
got
going-
there's
nothing
bigger
than
deborah.
It's
it's
the
most
land
we
own.
I
don't
know
I.
Yes,
it's
bigger
than
the
instant
old
incinerator.
B
I
think
the
only
center
is
like
30
acres
right.
So
anyway,
it's
the
biggest
piece
of
property
real.
So
I
think
it's
fair
to
let
the
residents
decide
because
their
residents
have
been
here
a
long
time
and
the
average
resident
probably
lives
here
longer
than
any
city
council
member
is
on
city
council
so
that
that
trumps
them
voting
for
us.
You
know
yeah
yep,
so
you
know,
there's
I
don't
know
the
late.
The
late
mayor.
B
He
probably
was
one
of
the
longest
running
city
council
members,
so
I
mean
our
lifespan
here
doesn't
compare
to
the
lifespan
of
a
resident
in
dearborn
heights.
So
even
though
they
did
vote
for
us,
like
you
said
a
couple
years
from
now,
none
of
us
might
not
even
be
here
so,
but
the
residents
hopefully
will
okay.
You
know.
J
J
We've
now
got
with
the
operator
that
was
there
didn't,
have
good
track
history.
It
didn't,
it
wasn't,
wasn't
doing.
J
We've
got
a
new
operator
there,
who's
going
to
put
some
money
into
it,
hopefully,
and
get
things
going
so
there's
no
talk
about
it
being
developed,
you
might
want
to
say
no
residential
housing,
development
or
residential
housing,
development
or
industrial,
but
I
agree
wholeheartedly
with
councilman
abdullah.
J
We
don't
know
what
the
future
holds
we
went
through
this
years
ago.
The
city
did,
there
was
a
drive-in
theater
on
ford
road
and
borman
foods
actually
filed
a
lawsuit
and
won.
There
was
supposedly
the
owner
of
the
theater
was
a
friend
of
the
one
of
the
former
mayors.
J
We
now
have
the
height
shopping
center,
which
is
great
for
our
tax
base.
We
have
an
anchor
store
there.
Kroger's,
I'm
sure
it's
appreciated
so.
J
This
is
a
pro.
This
is
a
solution
in
search
of
a
problem.
There's
no
talk
about
a
developer,
developing
the
putting
residential
homes
on
the
golf
course
it's
built
on
a
flood
plain.
It
was
at
one
time
where
the
city
of
detroit
dumped
trash,
so
we
can
look
at
this,
but
let's
look
first
on
getting
it
developed,
getting
it
marketed,
getting
an
operator
in
there
and
getting
them
booking
golf
leagues
and
so
forth
going
before
we
spend
too
much
time
talking
about
this.
K
Let's
do
something
about
like
if
that's
a
concern
about
building
homes,
let's
do
a
different
stream.
A
F
Councilman,
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
when
you
say
deed
restriction,
are
you
referring
to
a
deed
restriction?
Are
you
referring
to
like
a
charter
restriction
charter
restriction?
Okay,
thank
you.
L
L
Okay,
so,
as
as
the
council
knows,
you
just
approved
the
city-wide
master
plan
and
the
master
plan,
one
of
our
our
issues-
I
I
I
hate
to
see
us,
put
some
limitations
on
our
possible
uses
of
that
facility.
You
know
we
have
part
of
the
golf
course
is
a
flood
plain,
and
we,
with
the
flood
mitigation
efforts
that
we're
trying
to
undertake
part
of
the
solution,
the
lies
and
and
possible
uses
of
of
the
golf
course
or
at
least
parts
of
the
golf
course
that
are
within
the
flood
plain.
L
The
county
is
currently
doing
some
mitigations
on
on
the
golf
course
on
the
flood
area
and
then
part
of
our
options
for
city-wide
mitigation
efforts.
Whatever
that
option
might
be
is,
is
going
to
be
studied
as
part
of
the
master
plan,
so
placing
any
kind
of
restrictions
on
uses
for
for
that
before
we
find
out
what
our
future
plans
are,
it's
going
to
be
counterproductive,
productive
in
my
opinion,
so
you
know.
While
I
have
no
issues
with.
L
K
B
B
Pond
stop
all
the
flooding
in
a
certain
area.
But,
let's
you
know
everybody's,
you
know
saying:
oh,
let's
not
put
restrictions
because
we
it's
possible
to
do
this
or
it's
possible
that
fine.
If
that's
what
the
voters
want,
then
then
let's
do
it,
but
let
the
voters
decide.
Let's
get
that!
Let
the
voters
decide
is
getting
lost
they're
all
around
here.
B
Oh,
we
can't
let
the
voters
decide
because
we
might
have
a
different
plan
for
it.
You
know
the
gut
the
voters
decide
is
completely
lost
in
this
whole
room.
Very
few
people
are
even
it's
going
like
this.
You
know
and
let
the
voters
decide
build.
The
high
rise
build,
build
a
the
whole
retention
pond.
Let
the
voters
decide
gosh
darn
it.
How
many
times
I
got
to
say
that.
B
M
G
See
this
is
this
is
a
problem
I
I
know
what
he,
what
his
desire
is.
Okay,
his
desire
is
to
make
sure
that
development
on
the
golf
course
like
housing,
industrial
sites
happen
plain
and
simple.
That's
that's,
basically
what
it
is,
and
I
I
don't
think
that
anybody's
going
to
object
on
doing
other
things
on,
if
necessary.
G
On
the
golf
course
I
mean,
I
don't
want
to
have
something
like
you
know:
ferris
wheels
and
a
lot
of
noise
we're
still
in
a
in
a
residential
area
there,
but
I
think
the
biggest
thing
here
is
housing
and
industrial
sites,
and
basically
that's
what
it
is.
I
I
truly
believe.
C
And
I
just
want
nobody's
disagreeing
here:
no.
G
C
C
G
Council,
I've
ever
said:
I'm
not
arguing
to
that
point,
I'm
just
I'm
just
saying
I'm
just
saying
what
he's
really
thinking
in
his
mind
and
that's
what
that's
what
I'm
saying
and
there
is
no
talk
about
development,
and
I
know
that
I
see
this
stuff
on
facebook
and
it
drives
me
crazy
when
people
are
saying
the
mayor's
cronies
are
doing.
This
hey
bring
your
cronies
forward.
Let
me
know
who
these
cronies
are.
If,
if
you
give
me
some
names,
nobody
wants
to
ever
come
forward
and
give
me
a
name
and.
C
In
any
city
has
ever
favored
on
facebook
yeah
if
it's
the
late
mayor
paletco.
If
it's
me,
mr.
G
F
Okay,
my
suggestion
at
this
point
is
if
there
is
a
consensus
among
your
honorable
body
in
terms
of
wanting
some
sort
of
restriction,
then
it's
a
question
of
what
kind
of
restriction
there's
been
talk
of
deed
restriction.
There's
been
talk
about
a
charter
amendment.
If
you
have
a
consensus
that
you
don't
want
to
do
the
deed
restriction,
then
the
question
becomes.
Do
you
want
a
charter
amendment?
If
you
want
a
charter
amendment,
then
do
you
want
a
charter
amendment
that
prohibits
both
the
sale
of
the
property
and
certain
forms
of
development?
F
And
my
sense
is:
is
that
if
you
have
more
deliberation
on
this
particular
point,
it's
a
little
more
focused
on
trying
to
define
the
issues
where
there
would
be
a
consensus.
Then
I
could
put
something
together.
That
would
reflect
my
understanding
of
that
consensus
and
then
we
could
come
back.
I
don't
know
that
this
is
all
going
to
end
up
being
done
before
the
election
in
november,
and
I
think
it's
an
extremely
important
issue
when
you
look
at
a
charter
amendment,
it's
like
a
constitutional
amendment
but
at
the
at
the
city
level.
F
People
just
say:
look:
are
you
in
favor
of
some
sort
of
restriction
like
councilman
wenzel
is
suggesting,
and
if
so,
should
it
end
up
being
a
charter
amendment
and
if
it's
a
charter
amendment
should
it
prohibit
both
the
sale
of
the
of
the
property
and
some
sort
of
development
and
then
get
the
rest
of
your
comments
with
respect
to
what
your
concerns
are
in
terms
of
development,
then
I
can
put
something
together
that
reflects
what
my
understanding
is
I've.
You
know
it's.
F
It's
always
difficult
when
you
got
seven
different
people
coming
up
with
different
things,
but
if
you
do
have
some
sort
of
consensus
as
far
as
that
goes
again,
you're
not
voting,
but
you
know
informally
a
consensus.
If
you
do,
then
I
can
end
up
trying
to
work
put
something
together
that
goes
beyond
you
know.
This
bare
bones
thing
and
I
appreciate
councilman's
wenzel's
compliment
I'm
I'm
putting
together.
I
think
it's
pretty
good
language,
but
I
really
didn't
have
a
sense
of
where
everyone
was
with
regard
to
this.
So
that's
why
it's
bare
bones.
F
Well,
but
that's
you
know,
otherwise
I
would
be
assuming
that,
for
example,
councilwoman
breyer
would
be
on
board,
with
the
exact
same
thing
that
councilman
wenzel,
who
would
be
on
the
same
thing
as
councilman
bay
dune,
and,
to
be
frank,
it's
very
rare
that
we
have.
That
kind
of
you
know
unanimous
way
of
looking
at
things
with
something
discounted.
K
C
Yeah,
I
have
a
question
for
maybe
a
corporation
council.
I
know
we've
had
this
discussion
and
you
know
we've
looked
at
different
avenues.
My
personal
opinion
would
be,
I
know,
dearborn
just
recently
put
together
on
the
ballot
to
see
if
there
could
be
adopt
a
charter
commission
and
if
it
was
adopted
by
the
primary
election
and
it
was
approved
then
by
the
general
election.
There
was
a
bunch
of
individuals
that
put
their
names
in
to
run
for
this
charter.
Commission.
The
charter
commission
now
reviews
the
commission
and
they're
re-adopting
a
completely
new
charter.
C
I
think
the
dearborn
heights
city
charter
is
extremely
old
and
outdated.
I
think,
if
there's
a
charter,
commission,
that's
coming
into
play,
something
with
some
adoption
and
some
legal
terms
about
what's
happening
with
the
golf
course
can
be
adopted
there.
Why
don't
we
look
at
avenues
of
maybe
I
mean
I
think
in
my
personal
opinion,
our
charters
from
you
know,
with
respect
to
mr
constant
father,
has
been
here
since
the
60s
and
we've
never
had
a
charter
amendment.
C
Why
don't
we
put
together
a
on
the
ballot
that
you
know
what
we're
going
to
change
this
charter?
Let
the
residents
vote
on
it.
They
vote.
Yes,
let's
put
a
commission
together
to
go
out
and
change
this
charter.
Great
then
you
can
have
the
individuals
put
their
names
in
like
what
the
airborne
researchers
did
in
this
past
election
they
have
three
years
and
by
the
by
the
fourth
year
you
will
get
this.
C
You
know
new
charter,
the
residents
will
go
back
and
either
adopt
it
or
they'll
deny
it,
and
you
follow
the
current
charter
of
control.
This
is
you
know
this
process.
I
think
given
heights
needs
to
see
that
and
then
we
can
also
add
those
legal
terms
with
whoever
the
city
elects
to
be
a
part
of
this
nine
body
or
seven
body
to
this
charter.
Commission
neighboring
cities
are
doing
it.
There's
no
reason
why
the
city
of
urban
high
school
to
do
it
can.
Maybe
you
give
me
some
guidance
on
how
we.
F
C
C
F
C
F
E
F
From
dearborn,
mr
abdallah,
who
ended
up
it-
and
I
watched
I
watched
it,
so
you
know-
I
think
that
that
was
kind
of
the
background
with
respect
to
that,
and
you
know
we
could,
we
could
go
forward
with
that
type
of
process,
but
I
don't
know
about
the
timelines
and
things
like
that
without
actually
taking
a
look
at
it.
Sorry
right.
B
Council,
chair,
yes,
council.
Thank
you.
B
You
know
normally
I
don't
I
don't.
Let
people
upset
me
or
anything
like
it's
that
nature,
because
what
people's
opinion
of
me,
I
don't
care,
really
care
about,
but
some.
D
B
B
B
I
had
two
fine
residents
come
out
when,
as
I
walked
out
urging
me
to
come
back
in
I'm
not
putting
up
with
this
crap.
You
know
this
is
we're
up
here,
being
professional,
the
last
city
council
before
this
this
first
last
election,
every
member,
the
mayor
was
one
of
them.
They
wouldn't
stand
for
people
calling
and
belittling
the
council
member
or
someone
on
this
table,
believing
in
a
council
member,
humiliating
and
mocking
them.
I'm
tired
of
this
stuff.
This
shouldn't,
be,
I
mean
this.
You
talk
about
unprofessional
this.
B
This
is
this
is
outrageous,
but
I'm
gonna
be
I'm
gonna
fight
harder
for
the
residents,
I'm
fighting
harder
for
the
union.
People,
that's
my
opinion
and
I'm
I'm
gonna
strive
for
it,
and
I
need
as
many
people
up
here
to
back
me
on
this.
If
anyone
up
here
is
against
what
I'm
saying
you're
against
the
residents
voting,
and
you
could
do
anything
and
the
residents
vote
on
it,
they
can
change
it
next
year
I
mean
what
what
the
heck
is.
People
don't
understand
what
I
was
accused
of
having
an
agenda.
B
A
B
A
A
A
B
K
B
B
You
know
what's
wrong
with
that,
you
could
say
anything
you
want.
We
could,
you
could
say,
let's
say,
build
a
casino
out
there,
let
the
residents
decide
and
then
next
year.
Okay,
I
mean
all
right.
Thank
you,
I'm
not
I'm
not
giving
up
on
it.
I
mean
to
be
humiliated
up
here
by
a
caller
and
then
someone
up
here
at
this
table.
B
N
I'd
like
us
to
get
back
to
the
whole
purpose
of
the
original
meeting
and
tom.
No
one
wants
to
insult
you.
That's
not
the
purpose.
I
personally
don't
like
deed
restrictions,
having
been
a
realtor
myself
and
it
messes
up
a
lot
of
things
that
you
can't
take
back.
I
lean
more
toward
the
charter
aspect
that
we
discussed
and
I
I
think
we
do
need
to
do
work
on
our
charter
as
well.
A
Thank
you,
councilwoman
breyer,
any
other
comments
from
council
members.
Okay,
next
up
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
go
with
public
comments,
but
just
I'm
sorry,
I'm
going
to
go
to
zoom.
First,
of
course
I'm
going
to
make
sure
leslie's
happy
so
we'll
go
ahead
and
go
to
people
on
zoom.
They
have
any
questions,
then
we'll
go
ahead
and
switch
over
to
people
here.
O
What
is
casama
musa
referring
to
it
seems
like
he
got
upset
over
my
comments
and
since
he
does
not
really
care,
I
did
don't
give
a
damn
either
all
right.
Let's
put
it
out
there
constantly.
What's
up
you
gotta
stand
out
there,
hiding
my
finger
claiming
you're
trying
to
work
for
the
resident.
O
The
residents
are
in
deep
need
for
people
who
do
work
hard
in
the
city.
If
we
want
to
give
raises
for
people
who
are
working
hard
for
the
city,
we
got
to
look
all
over
the
city,
not
just
the
union,
people
who
contributed
to
your
property
at
your
personal
family
house
and
went
out
there
and
helped
you
out.
That's
why
we're
going
to
keep
on
giving
raises
to
the
union.
O
A
O
It's
not
accusation,
believe
me,
you
know
me
very
well
every
single
word
I
say
I
see
it
with
facts
and
evidence
if
he
really
cares
about
the
golf
course
and
the
sake
of
the
golf
course
and
moving
forward
with
the
golf
course
he
wants
to
come
put
this
restriction
on
it.
What
is
he
expecting
people
to
do
you,
as
you
are
known,
one
of
the
probably
the
best
real
estate
agent
in
the
state
of
michigan?
O
H
D
D
I
would
like
to
ask
mr
winslow,
and
mr
bozzi
did
mr
bazi's
comments
made
immediately
before
you
walked
out.
Is
that
what
caused
you
to
walk
out?
That's
what
my
opinion
is.
I
think
you
guys
sitting
up
there
on
the
council,
thought
that
you
all
upset
him,
but
I
think,
having
listened
very
intently,
I
think
your
comments
precipitated
his
walking
out.
Can
you
can
you
that's
correct?
Okay,
thank
you.
That's
what
I
wanted
to
confirm
and
I
want
you
to
hear
what
he
is
saying,
because
that's
what
I
heard
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
M
A
M
A
M
M
M
M
M
M
M
The
possible
resolution
could
be
done
simply
by
resolution
that
you
put
restriction
on
it
in
another
way
time
you
don't
have
to
have
their
votes
or
you
know
anything.
You
can
go
collect
1500
signature
for
referendum
to
put
this
in
front
of
the
public,
and
I
ask
please
one
last
minute,
so
I
can
say
what
I
need.
M
M
A
I
want
to
add
something
in
regards
to
this
purchase
or
sale,
or
anything
like
that,
because,
based
on
this
theory
of
you
need
the
residents
to
decide-
and
I
respect
that-
and
I
believe
I
I
vote
and
decide
on
behalf
of
the
residents-
that's
why
I
was
voted
in,
but
based
on
that
theory,
then
the
residents
should
have
decided
before
we
bought
it
too,
because
if
you
think
about
that,
the
ones
that
decided
to
buy
it-
and
I
was
on
council
then-
and
I
was
all
for
it
because
I
said
we're
buying
254
acres
for
1.8
million-
it
came
out
to
some
like
7
000,
something
an
acre
which
was
a
steal,
and
I
remember
word
for
word,
be
saying
it's
a
steal
of
a
steal
of
a
steal.
A
As
a
realtor,
I
knew
it
was
a
steal
to
buy
for
1.8
million,
but
let's
just
pretend
that
same
thing
in
the
reversal
was
on
the
charter
back
then
we
couldn't
have
bought
it
until
we
put
it
out
to
the
residents
to
vote
that
could
have
been
five
six,
seven,
eight
months
or
nine
months
later.
Let's
just
use
hypothetical.
A
A
Now,
if
we're
going,
gonna
wait
for
the
residents
to
vote
on
it,
we
wouldn't
have
had
the
opportunity
to
be
able
to
buy
it
because
it
has
to
go
for
other
residents
to
vote
on,
and
the
council
members
who
were
all
in
favor
of
purchasing
it-
and
I
was
amongst
them,
wouldn't
have
had
the
opportunity
and
we
could
have
possibly
lost
it
to
some
millionaire
in
this
particular
case,
the
one
that
was
going
to
build
on
it.
You
mentioned
mr
abraham.
A
A
You
know
what,
since
it
has
to
go
to
the
voters,
to
vote
on
in
november
a
county,
executive
or
county
commission
instead
of
selling
it
to
them
for
1.8
million
I'll,
buy
it
for
5
million,
and
I
can
tell
you
right
now.
I
tell
you
as
a
realtor
myself
all
day
every
day
that
property
can
be
sold
for
not
two,
not
1.8,
not
three.
Four
five
keep
going
up
and
we'd
have
to
do
an
analysis,
but
we're
probably
talking
about
20
30
40
50
million
for
that
property.
A
G
I
I
I
know
that,
but
hypothetical
in
this
case
doesn't
work
because
we
can't
go
back.
All
we
can
do
is
look
to
the
future
and
look
forward,
and
I
do
agree
with
councilman
wenzel
that
we
need
to
do
something.
What
it
is.
I
don't
know
exactly
how
to
do
it,
but
I
know
something
needs
to
be
done.
Okay
and
mr
zohara
abdel
haaq
was
correct.
I
wrote
a
letter
I
rescinded
my
letter
and
I
rescinded
it
because
of
marge
horvath
when
she
said
look
it
it's
a
flood
zone,
don't
you.
G
I
said
you
know
what
marge
I
free
every
time
I
it
rains
I
drive
by
there.
It
is
flooded
so,
what's
going
to
happen,
they're
going
to
raise
those
houses
up
and
then
the
rest
of
the
community's
gonna
flood.
She
made
sense.
So
that's
when
I
decided
I
took
my
letter
out.
Okay,
because
at
least
someone
talked
some
sense
into
my
head
and
not
only
was
that
property
gonna
be
sold.
I
can
guarantee
you
the
property
where
the
ice
arena
was.
There
was
works
on
that
being
sold
too.
G
G
G
A
Q
Q
I
was
president
of
golf
human
civic
association
for
ten
and,
of
course,
I'm
not
president
anymore,
I
don't
live
there,
but
I
I
don't
want
to
speak
on
their
behalf,
but
I
do
want
to
share
with
you
that
there's
a
couple
concerns
here
and
I
think,
as
a
council
body,
you
have
to
make
a
decision
on
what
you're
actually
deciding
okay
and
how
are
you
going
to
get
there?
The
best
means
I
agree
with
you
councilman
wenzel,
that
you
need
civic
engagement,
because
that
makes
up
good
government
good
governance.
Q
But
what
I
want
to
remind
you
is
the
infrastructure.
There's
three
interceptors
there.
I
believe.
Okay,
we
have
to
be
concerned
about
the
interceptors
and
failure
of
infrastructure,
because
we
already
know
in
the
state
of
michigan
infrastructure
is
getting
a
d
plus
rating
a
grade:
okay,
the
floodplain.
Yes,
it's
the
floodplain
and
I'm
gonna
tell
you
water
always
wins.
Q
Q
You
mentioned
mr
abdel
hawk
about
that
meeting
at
warren
valley.
Golf
course.
That's
on
my
list.
A
lot
of
those
residents
were
golf
humana
residents
that
we
send
out
lots
of
emails
and
they
came
in
force
over
500
to
express
their
concerns
and
the
number
one
concern
was
protecting
their
homes
more
than
anything
else.
So
again,
I
think
it's
a
reasonable
request,
decide
what
you
want
what's
important,
what
to
protect
development's
a
big
word,
okay,
but
also
include
your
residents.
Maybe
you
want
to
survey
them.
Q
R
E
R
Are
so
I
just
want
you
to
keep
that
in
mind
when
it
come
in
the
only
way
that
could
have
been
resolved
because
the
city
had
had
stood
behind
that
deed
restriction
at
one
time
and
then
this
time
they
didn't,
and
so
the
only
way
that
could
have
been
fought
is
if
the
residents
paid
an
attorney
to
fight
that.
So
keep
that
in
mind
when
you
make
that
decision.
I
think
this
is
a
very,
very
important
topic.
I'm
not
going
to
get
flooded,
I'm
way
up
on
it.
R
I
G
R
And
I
don't
have
a
basement
okay,
so
your
living
room
will
get
it
well.
That
could
happen,
but
anyway,
as
far
as
I'm
not
an
attorney,
but
I
can
only
tell
you
the
history
of
the
deed
restriction
on
our
whole
subdivision.
It
didn't
happen
it.
It
was
not
unless
you
wanted
to
go,
take
it
to
court.
Okay,.
J
Yeah,
our
clerk
when
sonny
is
correct
and
the
person
built
a
second
floor,
and
then
it
went
up
before
we
had
a
chance
to
do
anything.
It
was
right
down
the
street
from
then
council,
chair
ken
barron,
and
but
how
many
second
floors
are
there
now
two
and
the
residents
did
all
get
together,
but
they
weren't
willing
to
and.
R
I
felt
bad
for
that.
I
mean
it's
ultimately
up
to
the
homeowner,
because
that
should
have
been
caught
during
a
title
search
and
it
wasn't
so
they
went
ahead
and
did
it.
A
F
Yeah,
if
I
could
just
clarify
a
couple
things
I
went
on
to
start
with
city
clerk
was
just
referring
to
a
particular
situation.
Came
up
some
time
ago,
and
basically,
it
came
to
me
and
people
were
saying.
Well
we're
going
to
try
to
enforce
this
deed
restriction.
I
said
the
deed
restriction
is
not
something
that
is
a
city
obligation
is
not
a
city
requirement.
It
is
a
requirement
within
the
between
private
parties.
It
would
be
like
if
we
sat
there
and
someone
had
a
covenant
not
compete
after
they
ended
up
selling
their
example.
F
F
In
other
words,
they
can
no
longer
necessarily
be
as
enforced
or
a
court
might
sit
there
and
say
it's
going
on
throughout
the
whole
subdivision.
No
one's
complained
about
it.
Someone
should
have
done
so
a
long
time
ago.
I'm
not
going
to
enforce
it.
So
that's
one
issue.
The
other
issue,
mr
abdul-hawk
ended
up
raising
with
respect
to
the
and
and
the
city
treasurer
raised
had
to
do
with
a
little
bit
of
the
history.
F
I
believe
diane
webb
deserves
a
great
deal
of
credit,
because
she
is
the
one
who
orchestrated
the
the
the
town
hall
meeting
with
respect
to
this.
I'm
sure
that
other
people-
yes
and
and
basically-
and
this
mr
abduhak-
is
just
kind
of
at
least
my
recollection
to
the
degree
I
can
end
up
getting
into
some
of
the
issues.
F
But
my
recollection
is
that
it
was
a
real
eye-opener,
especially
when
the
environmental
types
of
people
ended
up
coming
forward
for
mayor
paletko,
in
terms
of
what
the
impacts
could
end
up
potentially
end
up
being,
and
that's
why
I
think
for
other
people
who
were
on
the
council,
they
also
ended
up
revisiting
that
and
not
realizing
what
the
potential
environmental
impact
would
be
to
kind
of
put
some
of
this
into
context.
So
hopefully
that
history
helps
thank
you.
R
No,
I
forgot
what
I
was
going
to
say.
No,
the
city
had
upheld
that
deed
restrictions
before
that's
the
only
thing
that
I
wanted
to
say
right.
R
R
N
C
H
F
F
P
Okay,
since
we're
talking
about
warm
valley,
let's
bring
up
a
subject
here
of
where
are
we
at
on
signing
this
contract?.
H
F
May
mr
shank
who's
the
the
attorney
representing
issa
brothers
and
I
have
had
discussions
last
two
days
and
we've
had
discussions
internally
as
well.
F
So
that's
that's
where
we
are,
but
our
big
problem
is,
you
know,
sometimes
you
don't
know
it's
hard
to
commit
to
anything
having
to
do,
for
example,
with
the
management
of
the
golf
course.
If
you
don't
know,
if
those
pumps
which
are
extraordinarily
expensive
equipment
are
going
to
be
functioning
or
not,
even
if
we
take
credit
for
them,
it
still
has
to
do
with.
When
are
you
going
to
be
able
to
roll
out
things
being
done?
G
There's
nothing
there
unless
there's
something
in
the
paperwork
that
that
maybe
came
with
the
pumps,
but
I
do
believe
somebody
had
done
a
study
on
on
what
it
cost
for
three
new
pumps
and
it
was
like
25
or
30
000
for
those
three
pumps.
A
P
Well,
it
brings
back
to
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
this
contract
was
supposed
to
be
signed
by
the
end
of
april.
P
According
to
the
cities,
according
to
the
councils,
the
12th
april
12th,
according
to
the
council's
decision
to
have
it
up
and
going
now
since
we're
beyond
april
12th.
This
has
to
go
back
out
for
rebid
according.
H
A
B
A
A
P
I
just
wanted
a
better
understanding
of
this
because,
as
far
as
I
recall
that
the
the
time
it
eliminated
and
the
council
wanted
it
done
by
a
certain
date,
and
if
it
wasn't
done,
then
it
was
supposed
to
go
back
out
for
re-bid.
That's
the
way
on
it.
I
understood
it
now,
if
you
want
to
check
into
it,
that's
great
I'd.
R
R
H
P
B
P
B
And
there's
two
a
couple
stipulations
and
one
of
them
was
that
the
administration
and
corporation
council
draft
a
con,
an
agreement
and
presented
to
city
council,
the
first
meeting
in
april,
which
was
april
12th,
and
that
never
happened
and
unless
you
gave
them
an
extension
without
consular
approval,
there
was
never
an
extension
asked.
There
was
nothing.
H
A
Okay,
I'm
gonna
read
it
just
so
that
at
least
what
are
you
calling
it
and
I
hope,
yeah
all
right
motion
by
councilman
be
doing
seconded
by
councilman
wenzel
to
award
the
bid
to
esa
brothers
llc
as
concessionaire
for
the
warren
valley.
Golf
course,
subject
to
a
corporation
council
miyatki,
an
administration
negotiating
and
preparing
an
appropriate
agreement
with
issa
brothers,
llc
b,
the
city
council,
approving
the
proposed
agreement.
A
Okay,
in
addition,
corporation
council,
miyatki
and
administration
are
directed
to
negotiate
and
prepare
the
proposed
agreement
in
time
for
it
to
be
considered
by
the
city
council
at
its
regular
first
regular
meeting
in
the
april.
2022
is
outlined
in
item
7a.
So
with
that
that
doesn't
mean
that
whoever
it
was
given
to
is
void.
It
doesn't
mean
it
can
go
out,
I'm
sorry,
it
doesn't
mean
it
automatically
goes
out
for
rfp,
but
and
unless
we
as
a
body,
decide
to
put
it
back
out
for
our
rfp.
Now.
D
A
F
F
May
have
ended
up
having
a
little
tweaking
here,
but
essentially
it
was
based
on
what
I
had
ended
up
putting
together.
It
doesn't
mean
that
there's
a
default
that
oh,
we
don't
have
it
done
by
this
time.
That
automatically
means
that
we
have
to
go
out
to
rebid.
It
contains
no
such
language
and
that's
not
an
implication
of
it,
but
you
are
correct.
Council
chair.
H
F
F
A
If
I
felt
that
in
this
particular
case,
this
contract
is
not
coming
forward
because
of
issa
brothers,
for
example,
being
unreasonable
in
their
negotiations
or
putting
on
conditions
that
are
unreasonable,
that
I'd
be
the
first
one
that
would
carry
the
biggest
flag
and
say:
let's
put
this
back
out
for
bids,
I'm
sorry
it's
like
a
normal
negotiation
in
my
business
you're
out
of
negotiations,
I'm
gonna
go
back
out
to
somebody
else,
but
in
this
particular
case
what
was
found
out
based
on
multiple
sources
once
the
golf
course
was
walked
into
and
again
I'm
using
the
words
changes.
A
You
know
what
I'm
going
to
say:
lots
of
stuff
happened
by
the
former
person
that
was
there
and
because
of
that,
that's
a
game
changer
in
any
type
of
contract
negotiations.
So
at
that
particular
point,
some
additional
things
have
to
be
t's
crossed
and
eyes
dotted
before
we
come
to
a
conclusion
on
a
final,
formal
contract.
Now,
if
I
felt
it
was
administration,
this
is
the
opposite.
People
negotiating
was
being
unreasonable
or
what
have
you
then?
Obviously
I
would
be
the
first
one
to
put
the
pressure
on
administration
and
say:
hey
get
your
crap
together.
A
This
thing's
got
to
get
be
put
together
that
the
gentleman
or
gentleman
are
waiting
for
you
to
finish
your
contract.
Let's
get
this
thing
done,
or
in
this
case
you
let's
go
ahead
and
get
this
thing
done,
so
they
can
get.
It
signed,
they're
ready
to
sign,
but
the
issue
is
the
stuff
that
was
found.
That
was,
after
the
fact
and
after
the
date
of
march
23
2022,
at
which
point
we
all
voted
on
it
and
again
reading
it
again.
That
does
not
make
the
contract
void,
but
it
makes
it
voidable
if
we
chose.
F
A
B
Okay,
now
yeah
I
mean
I
voted
yes
on
that
the
motion,
but
you
know,
mr
miyaki
being
the
attorney
when
he
was
problems
arise.
You
would
the
first
thing
you
should
just
hey.
We
need
an
extension.
I
mean
that's
what
that's
that's
I
would.
I
would
think,
that's
common
legal
stuff
when,
when
there's
a
motion
made
and
stipulations
in
the
motion-
and
you
see
that
they're
not
going
to
be
met,
you
say:
hey,
we've
got
to
have
an
extension.
Okay.
B
Now,
that
being
said,
that's
that's
what
that's
one
of
the
things
that
was
brought
to
my
attention.
There
was
no
extension
requested,
even
though
there
are
these
problems.
Now,
information
is
being
let
out
selectively
on
the
golf
course
now,
a
very
high
ranking
person
at
this
table.
B
B
H
A
Let
me
just
just
one
second:
okay,
I'm
trying
not
to
be
rude
to
any
council
members,
but
everything
has
to
go
through
the
council
chair.
Otherwise,
what's
gonna
happen
was
gonna,
be
arguing,
arguing
like
we're
sitting
at
a
bar
having
a
few
beers.
We're
gonna
get
nowhere.
So
please
everyone
go
through
the
council
chair
one
at
a
time
and
I'll.
A
B
But
now
these
these
massive
pumps
they're
not
there-
to
pump
the
water
off
the
golf
course.
These
pumps
are
only
there
to
irrigate
the
golf
course
correct.
These
are
these
big
pumps.
Everyone's
talking
about
99
of
the
people
in
the
in
the
city
think
those
pumps
are
made
to
pump
off
the
golf
course
whenever
it
gets
flooded.
B
I
don't
think
no
one
ever
said
that
hey
these
pumps
are
there
to
pump
the
irrigate.
Most
people
think
they're
to
pump
the
water
off
now
the
previous
concessionaire
he
rented
pumps
to
pump
the
water
off.
He
owned
one
pump
and
he
rented
two
to
pump
the
water
off
the
golf
course
and
he
took
those
with
them
when
he
left.
So
there's,
there's
information
being
let
out
selectively.
C
And
then
and
council
chair,
I'm
just
gonna
have
brought
a
couple
of
comments
here.
One
it
seems
like
we
are
sitting
in
a
bar
and
just
constantly
arguing
amongst
each
other
without
the
alcohol
and
number
two.
I
just
got
one
question
and
maybe
our
mayor
or
mr
isa
quick
question:
will
the
golf
course
be
open
this
year?
Can
anybody
answer
that
question
for
us?
If
not
today,
can
you
give
me
that
answer
by
tuesday?
C
C
F
H
G
G
G
This
golf
course
I've
got
pictures
is
a
damn
disaster.
Okay,
the
pump
house
you
might
as
well
not
even
have
a
building
there
anymore,
the
holes
that
are
in
it,
the
vinyl,
siding,
that's
ripped
off
of
it.
Okay,
and
to
see
a
a
three
foot
square,
480
volt,
three-phase
electrical
panel,
almost
sitting
in
the
rouge
river,
with
rust
holes
the
size
of
my
fist
in
it
that
didn't
occur
just
in
six
months
or
one
year.
G
That
happened
the
course
of
multiple
years.
That
course
was,
he
didn't
do
anything
and
I'm
gonna
stay,
and
I
don't
care
eric,
didn't
do
anything
to
that
golf
course.
Anybody
with
any
maintenance
background
with
a
half
a
brain
will
know
that,
like
I
said
before,
I
saw
that
oven
that
was
in
that
kitchen.
I
can
guarantee
you
a
wet
rag,
didn't
hit
that
thing
for
years,
that'll
be
a
shame
and
I'm
and
I'm
and
I'm,
and
I'm
I'm
angry
right
now
very
angry.
Where
was
the
board
of
health?
H
A
I
I
H
I
B
I
I
I
B
E
K
B
I
I
B
I
E
I
I
I
I
S
I'm
sorry
real,
quick
rachel
appoint
former
merrick
street
dearborn
heights.
I
just
have
a
comment.
I
do
not
need
a
response,
I'm
putting
my
mom
hat
on
right
now.
I
am
deeply
disappointed
in
all
of
you.
You
should
all
be
ashamed
of
yourselves
because
you
cannot
act
like
adults
and
there
are
people
in
this
room
that
are
bullying
people
and,
as
councilman
wenzel
said,
belittling
them
and
treating
them
terribly,
and
you
know
who
you
are
tell.