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From YouTube: Dearborn Heights Study Session - 5/3/22
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The Dearborn Heights Study Session regarding the 2022-2023 Corporate Fund Budget taking place Tuesday, May 3rd 2022 in the Dearborn Heights Council Chambers and via Zoom.
A
Comptroller
well,
first
of
all,
good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
we
are
continuing
with
our
budget
meetings.
Today's
study
session
5
31
p.m.
It
is
its
corporate
fund
budget
study,
session,
2022,
2023
and
today
is
the
third
of
may,
and
we
have
our
comptroller
here
and
we're
going
to
be
going
over
today.
Building
an
engineering
planning
commission
board
of
appeals,
ordinance
department
of
public
works,
highway,
building
and
maintenance,
major
and
local
streets,
water
and
sewer,
and
we
are
at
city
hall,
council
chambers.
B
B
B
B
A
B
A
B
Good
point:
okay:
we
have
also
added
on
as
we've
done
with
all
the
other
departments
applicable
longevity
appropriation,
additional
health
and
life
and
additional
employer
contribution
for
social
security
and
pension.
As
you
know,
those
were
in
the
200
department,
general
government
section.
We
have
now
laid
that
out
within
the
371
department
that
is
applicable
to
the
371
department
and,
as
you
move
through
page
66,
you'll
see
on
line
item
101,
371
817-075,
we've
appropriated
350
000
for
a
new
city
master
plan
that
is
there
for
the
upcoming
fiscal
year.
B
B
B
B
A
D
B
A
A
I
do
know
there
was
at
one
point,
a
salary
increase
to
the
building
director
as
a
position,
and-
and
that
was
that's
a
part
of
that-
is
that
correct,
correct?
Okay,
but
I
know
it's
not
that
amount.
So
why
is
there
such
a
huge
difference
there,
I'm
not
sure
who
could
answer
that
one
more
inspector,
okay,
so
the
the
additional
inspectors,
how
much
sure
okay
right
there
and
when
was
rick
while
dave
was
looking
that
up.
When
was
the
last
time
we
had
that
additional
inspector
roughly.
A
A
Maybe
by
mr
d
to
the
residents-
and
I
know
the
mayor
at
one
point
had
spoken
about
this,
so
that
we're
not
all
over
the
place
as
far
as
the
city
is
concerned,
where
I
had
some
sort
of
a
vision
as
far
as
direction
and
a
goal
of
where
we're
going
with
this.
So
because
this
is
such
an
important
factor.
I
think
it's
a
good
idea
for
mr
deep
our
city
engineer,
to
give
us
at
least
a
general
idea
on
this.
Please.
G
Yes,
sir,
so
as
part
of
the
vision
for
the
city
going
forward,
one
of
the
basic
things
that
we
need
to
concentrate
on
is
to
implement
a
master
plan.
Now
this
will
drive
not
just
the
zoning
and
the
ordinance
and
all
the
planning.
That
is
a
critical
part
of
where
we
designate
our
resources.
So
if
you
have
an
area
that
is
designated
for,
let's
say
commercial
or
division
is
to
do
commercial.
You
will
start
planning
the
part
to
accommodate
that,
so
you
will
build
the
infrastructure
needed.
G
You
don't
just
switch
to
ie
ford
road.
You
know
if
we
have
a
vision,
you
need
to
concentrate
and
have
a
plan
before
you
dedicate
so
this
will.
This
is
the
main
driver
for
us
to
do
the
planning,
the
needed
planning
and
to
designate
and
and
spend
our
resources.
We
have
limited
resources.
We
need
updates,
we
need
to
plan
our
infrastructure
needed,
but
but
every
place
you
go
and
seek
funding.
They
ask
you,
for
a
copy
of
your
master
plan.
G
Tell
us
where
you're
headed
what
your
plans
are
and
that
drives
the
five-year
construction
plan.
So
once
you
come
up
with
your
vision-
and
you
know,
we
all
agree
where
we're
headed-
you
develop
a
construction
plan,
a
five-year
or
multi-year
construction
plan
to
get
you
there.
So
that
is,
that
is
what
you
need
to
seek.
Funding
from
the
various
agencies.
A
So
the
question
on
that
is
how
how
does
that
work
in
terms
of
in
in
so
like
when
you
have,
for
example,
a
city
is
just
in
in
the
process
of
being
built
and
growing.
What
have
you
so?
Let's
just
use
a
hypothetical,
I
don't
know
superior
township
or
anything
past
ann
arbor,
right
those
are
new
cities.
C
A
G
So
this
will
align.
This
will
provide
you
with
the
vision
of
where
you're
headed.
Now,
if
you
wanted
to
have
the
downtown
area,
if
you
wanted
to
concentrate
on
the
downtown
area
or
define
areas
of
interest
for
future
development,
say
you
know
vanborn,
you
know
warren
or
whatever
you
define
that
area.
This
is
where
you
start
concentrating
your
your
planning
effort.
You
know
one
to
try
to
attract
businesses
because
they
like
to
see
what
your
vision
is.
G
So
if
you
wanted
to
go
and
market
an
area,
you
want
to
show
them
that
you
know
we
are
serious
about
developing
vanborn.
For
instance,
you
know
just
using
that
as
an
example
and
say,
and
we
are
taking
steps,
you
know
we're
doing
a
lot
of
things
in
the
background
you
know
with
with
engineering,
to
try
to
accommodate.
You
know,
I
think
in
the
past
we
discussed
like
the
capacity
of
the
infrastructure.
G
C
G
Underground
yeah,
it
is
okay,
absolutely
so,
but
but
now
now
we
start
looking
at
options
and
and
many
cities
are
doing
the
same
thing
and
arbor
is
doing
the
exact
same
thing.
So
green
infrastructure
is
an
option.
So
if
you
adopt,
if
you
adopt
that
that
will
alleviate
having
to
go
back
and
dig
up
your
infrastructure
and
increase
capacity,
so
things
like
that,
that
will
be
part
once
you
adopt
it.
It
becomes
part
of
our
department
and
then
you
know,
new
developers
pulling
permits
will
be
required
to
follow.
You
know
this
becomes
something
yeah.
A
A
Should
that
not
be
a
cost
to
the
particular
person
and
I'm
just
curious,
I'm
trying
to
clarify
in
my
head
to
the
person
bringing
in
the
particular
plan.
So
hypothetically
I'm
going
to
open
up
whatever
a
walgreens
and
I've
got
plans
that
come
in.
Why
would
you,
as
a
city,
make
those
copies
versus
you
telling
me,
as
a
builder
or
as
an
architect,
bring
in
five
copies
or
ten
copies
or
whatever?
It
is
because
I'm.
A
I
B
I
B
I
I
F
I
I
A
J
B
L
C
J
D
L
M
G
The
massive
plan
is
is
a
study.
It
did
the
effort
required,
I
mean
I'm
sure,
you've
gone
through
it
before
it's,
it's
quite
excessive.
It
is
it
it
will
drag
over,
maybe
more
than
one
year
and
it
may.
It
will
include
public
comments.
It
will
include
public
meetings.
I'm
sure
you've
done
that
before
so.
Yes,
the
the
there's
no
construction
involved,
it's
just
it's
just
design
work.
M
M
G
Even
internally,
because
you
don't
have
unlimited
resources,
I
don't
have
unlimited.
I
wish
I
I
I
have
you
know
the
ability
to
update
all
of
our
infrastructure.
We
don't
we
have
to
concentrate
on
on
the
areas
that
we
know
will
give
us
the
benefit.
You
know
if
you
wanted
to
advertise
in
the
area.
Again,
I
keep
going
back
to
van
bourne,
but
if
you
are
going
to
try
to
market
the
area,
you
wanted
to
make
sure
that
you
have
what
it
takes
to
develop
it.
You
know.
G
M
M
F
E
E
B
B
E
B
So
no,
what
ends
up
happening
here
is
we
have
the
use
of
the
software
and
then
we
have
to
pay
an
annual
maintenance
fee
and
what
the
annual
maintenance
fee
gives.
You
is
the
updates
to
the
software,
because
they're
continually
improving
it
and
also
gives
you
their
help
desk
and
their
training
so
and
the
trainings
are
free
of
charge
so
or
they'll
come
here.
If
you,
if
you
ask
them
if
you've
got
enough
people,
so
that's
basically
what
you're
paying
for
on
an
annual
basis.
E
N
C
C
P
Stuff
that
would
wait
like
two
three
months,
sometimes
for
them
to
approve
or
for
them
to
go
through
the
stuff.
So
with
mr
deeb
on
site,
they
can
actually
go
through
plans.
You
know
that's
the
big
plaza
on
four
drogue.
You
know
that
would
have
taken
months
right.
If
we
we
didn't
have
mr
d,
you
know
by
the
time
we
go
through
and
obviously
we
found
out
some
issues
that
they
from
the
past
that
he
was
able
to
correct.
So
so
it's
not
just
so
much.
P
You
know
with
this
we're
saving
money
that
we're
going
straight
through
mr
deeb
as
an
engineer
on-site
engineer
and
also
he's
catching
stuff.
That
was
done
in
the
past
that
we're
fixing
as
we
go
right
now
and
one
of
the
big
issues
you
brought
up
earlier
with
the
two
homes
that
was
created
from
the
previous
administration
that
were
suffering
with
trying
to
correct
this
issue.
P
A
G
So
the
only
assignments
we
give
currently
are,
if
we
have
a
specialty
like
you,
want
to
do
a
survey
like
the
two
houses
the
mayor
just
mentioned.
You
want
to
do
a
survey
to
to
to
ascertain.
What's
going
on,
you
use,
you
use
weight
term
for
that.
So
it's
it's
still
specialties
testing.
For
instance,
you
know
when
you
have
construction
material,
it's
a
lot
cheaper
to
use
contractual
services
as
opposed
to
have
in-house.
You
can't
have
in-house
testing.
G
P
P
Trying
to
get,
even
though
the
source
mentioning
no
names,
but
we
all
most
of
us
know
the
issue
that
was
with
that
fire
station
right
and
mr
deeb.
When
he
came
on
board,
he
was
able
to
coordinate
some
company
to
come
in
and
test
it,
even
though
it
was
tested
like
there
was
nothing
wrong
with
it.
Then,
later
on
with
him
people's,
I
mean
just
watching
what
they're
doing
they
discovered
the
issue
that
what's
going
on
with
the
station,
you
know
with
the
flooding,
and
you
know
with.
J
I
F
I
A
F
F
C
A
R
Rachel
lapointe
merrick
street
dearborn
heights.
You
said
the
engineering
services
was
way
trim.
So
then
the
contracted
services
for
20,
plus
that
25
then
is
45
for
all
those
contractual
services.
Correct
that
you
listed
yes,
okay
and
then
I
know
you
would
mention
like
trying
to
make
sure
things
are
under
different
departments
more
accurately.
R
B
The
commission
runs
the
meetings
and
they
have
a
specific
task:
okay,
but
the
planning
commission,
but
the
department
had
who
will
be
supervising
the
work
which
would
be,
which
would
be
rick
and
mr
deep
they're
coming
out
of
this
department.
They're
working
out
of
this
department,
they're
in
charge
of
this
of
these
dollars
of
the
project
of
this
project.
Right,
okay,.
A
L
A
A
A
A
L
C
L
L
F
L
C
A
So
vince
you're
referencing
what
rick
referenced
the
last
time
last
time.
He
was
here
he's
speaking
as
a
planning,
commissioner,
not
commissioner,
but
he
sits
in
on
the
planning
commissions,
and
he
mentioned
on
those
particular
commissions.
We
are
losing
money,
not
necessarily
plans
turned
into
the
building
department.
Is
that
correct,
correct.
L
A
A
N
Number
one:
we
would
still
have
that
line
item
to
show
us
an
expense
number
two.
The
law
says
we
cannot
charge
fees
that
are
in
excess
of
what
it
costs
us
or
it's
a
tax
we
can
get
sued.
It
can
be
a
class
action
and
number
three
yeah.
We
we
are
comparable
to
other
cities
and
for
members
of
the
public
for
commercial
developers.
N
A
A
That's
one
just
to
clarify
this
particular
sessions
on
the
building
department.
Specifically,
yes,
plans
get
turned
into
the
building
department,
but
from
there,
if
it
needs
to
be
reviewed
by
the
planning.
Commission
goes
on
planning
commission,
which
we'll
be
going
over
in
a
little
bit
right,
not
in
this
particular
session.
Okay,
nobody
else
has
any
questions.
Somebody's
got
lynette
jackson
is
that
a
did.
She
have
her
hand
up
nope
we're
good,
okay,
all
right!
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you,
vince,
I'm
sorry,
rick!
Thank
you,
vence.
Thank
you.
I
A
A
B
that
would
be
2200
for
committee
fees
and
the
associated
fringe
social
security
fringe
benefit.
We
also
have
set
up
five
thousand
dollars
for
for
professional
and
contractual
services
for
a
total
of
seven
thousand
three
hundred
seventy
dollars.
As
you
know,
there
are
nine
board
members
and
they
meet
once
a
month
happy
to
open
up
to
the
council
for
any
questions.
E
A
So
I
have
a
couple
of
questions.
The
first
question
is:
we
went
from
1946
on
professional
contractual
services
to
five
thousand
dollars.
Why
is
there
such
a
high
jump
and
then
way
back
when
the
amended
budget
in
2122
was
20
000,
but
what
was
used
during
the
year
is
one
thousand
nine
hundred
and
forty
sixteen
why
there-
and
this
would
be
on
the
second
from
the
bottom,
going
up
above
newspapers.
A
J
C
B
A
B
B
I
C
A
B
A
A
day
before
you
begin
yes,
sir,
so
this
is.
This
comes
up
a
lot
with
a
lot
of
residents
that
contact
the
building
department
and
there
are
there's
always
been
some
confusion.
So
if
you
could
just
clarify
either
yourself
or
rick
for
those
residents
in
the
audience,
and
maybe
for
some
of
the
council
members
and
on
zoom
the
difference
between
the
zoning
board
and
what
they
handle
in
the
planning
commission,
what
they
handle.
F
A
B
A
N
A
B
What
we
have,
what
we
have
in
front
of
you,
your
honor,
is
the
zoning
board
of
appeals,
we're
looking
to
appropriate
three
thousand
one
hundred
and
fifty
three
dollars
for
the
fiscal
year.
That
includes
commission
or
committee
fees,
the
fringe
benefit
associated
and
approximately
well
exactly
a
thousand
dollars
for
publication
postings.
Any
other
questions
here
regarding
the
zoning
board
of
appeals.
A
E
A
A
B
E
P
E
B
Okay,
mr
chair,
what
you
have
in
front
of
you
this
evening
is
the
a
proposed
ordinance
budget,
we're
looking
to
appropriate
seven
hundred
thousand
zero,
eight
nine
thousand
dollars,
and
with
that
we
do
have
an
adjustment
that
we'd
like
to
make.
But
when
I
get
there,
we
want
to
move
the
animal
control
which
is
in
the
general
government
section
into
the
426
section
and
when
we
get
there
at
the
end
of
the
presentation,
we
can
talk
about
that
at
that
time.
B
There
you
go
okay,
thank
you,
you're
welcome
all
right.
So
what
you
have
is
seven
and
one
half
professionals.
If
you
remember,
we
had
that
issue.
Last
time
we
were
dealing
with
the
fire
department
and
the
mayor's
office.
Okay,
so
you're
getting
seven
full-timers
one
half
of
another
full-timer
coming
out
of
the
mayor's
office.
You
also
have
in
this
seven
one
new
ordinance
officer
position.
J
J
B
Sure
what
what
what's
going
on
is
you're
picking
up
the
the
biggest
piece
is
the
fringe
benefit
piece.
If
you
follow
the
line
item,
there
you'll
see
that
we're
going
from
174
to
124,
but
then
you're
also
looking
at
hospital
insurance
and
life
insurance,
above
that
those
are
new
expenditures
to
the
department.
J
B
A
Usually
the
one
under
projected
activity
is
one
that
will
give
you
a
tell-all
absolutely
as
far
as
where
we
stand,
because
this
one's
it's
deceiving
because
it
makes
it
look
like
you
know:
oh
there's,
a
huge
jump,
but
that's
just
up
to
march
okay.
So
a
couple
questions
that
I
have
and
and
for
council
members
whenever
you
need
to
leave,
please
let
me
know
so
that
I
know
who's
leaving
who's
coming
who's
going
because
sometimes
there's
some
important
items.
A
A
A
This
is
really
more
the
department
for
the
last
yeah
I
know,
but
but
this
is
important,
I'm
going
somewhere
with
this.
This
is
the
particular
department
for
probably
last
10,
15
years
or
20.
If
that,
if
not
more,
is
the
number
of
employees
you
have
enough.
That's
the
first
question
and
if
not,
how
many
do
you
really
need?
Because,
as
we
have
talked
about,
the
requested
budget
is
not
in
there
obviously
and
b,
I
do
have
a
problem
with
or
challenge
which
I
need
clarified
with
a
lot
of
part-time.
A
A
How
much
more
employees
do
you
need
now?
One
of
the
challenges
we
had
in
the
in
the
ordinance
department-
and
I'm
not
naming
somebody
specifically,
but
in
the
past
it
used
to
be
a
challenge
and
a
lot
of
us
as
council
members
were
very
critical
of
this,
where
there
was
a
lot
of
people
sitting
in
the
ordinance
department,
doing
paperwork,
but
not
enough
people
on
the
road
either
given
tickets
or
warnings.
A
U
U
To
you,
please,
I
don't,
can
you
hear
me
now?
I
can
really
project
my
voice
and
I
won't
need
this.
If
you
want
me
to
take
your
pick,
I
only
take
this
off,
so
you
can
actually
hear
me
I'm
in
a
no
win
position,
as
you
figured
out.
If
you
look
at
some
of
these
numbers
for
the
part
time
I
met,
I
made
a
request.
U
U
U
Okay,
now
we
I
I'll,
give
you
a
brief
synopsis.
I've
talked
to
several
of
the
council
members
about
this.
Before
any
given
day,
we
have
an
animal
control
officer
that
strictly
does
the
truck.
Does
the
amp
control
truck
every
single
day
monday
through
friday,
and
then
another
officer
does
strictly
businesses,
so
that
takes
two
guys
away
right.
U
Councilman
muscat
is
falling
right
along
with
me,
so
I
literally
only
have
two
officers
available
in
the
city
at
any
given
point
that
aren't
distracted
with
the
two
things
that
I
just
mentioned.
So
six
would
be
much
better.
The
part-time
budget
has
been
pretty
consistent,
the
55
000,
but,
as
you
can
see,
I
haven't
utilized
it
much
because
I
simply
can't
get
people
to
work.
This
is
clearly
unique
time.
U
I
just
I
can't
find
people
actually
this
week
I
do
have
potentially
two
part-timers
starting,
so
I
prefer
to
get
full
time
it's
much
easier
for
me
to
get
somebody
trained
to
get
them
in
a
position
to
get
them
in
an
area
and
and
let
them
go
and
let
them
learn
the
area
learn
the
people
learn
to
lay
out
the
land.
That's
much
easier
for
me,
fiscally
it's
very
costly
as
we
as
we
all
know
so,
yeah.
So
that's
where
I'm
at
with
that.
So.
A
Personally,
I
I
I'd
love
it
if
the
city
can
somehow
sharpen
their
pencils
and
figure
out
a
way
to
bring
in
more
ordinance
officers-
and
I
know
the
administration's
not
going
to
like
this,
but
but
I
I
definitely
think
this
is
a
department
that
that
needs
to
increase
the
number,
and
I
don't
know
exactly
how
many
you're
saying
there's
four
right
now
and
you'd
like
six.
If
there's
a
way
that
it
can
be
done,
I
definitely
would
love
for
administration
to
do
that,
so
we
can
get
a
lot
of
the
light
areas.
A
The
tree
situation
there's
a
lot
of
trees
situation.
I
don't
know
which
council
member
that
mentioned
it.
I
think
it
was
you
councilman
at
one
point
at
one
point
said:
let's
stop:
let's
not
only
hit
people
for
grass,
let's
also
hit
them
for
trees
that
are
just
totally
unmaintained,
and
I
know
you
can't
do
it
with
the
number
of
people
that
you've
got
here,
but
somehow
some
way
if
our
administration
can
figure
out
a
way
to
add
one
or
two
more
people.
I
personally
would
be.
U
Q
A
U
More
one
yeah,
I
would
love
that
and
again
I
know
money
is
always
you
know
anytime.
You
talk
about
doing
and
we
want.
We
want
ordinance
to
go
out
and
write
violations
for
people
parked
in
the
street
on
trash
day.
I
don't
have
the
people,
I
don't
think
the
police
department
has
the
officers
but
they're
supposed
to
enforce
that
this
week.
I
just
don't,
have
the
people
I
barely
got
enough
to
do.
We've
got
plenty
to
do.
We
can't
keep
up
because
we
have
to
do
follow-ups
with
court.
U
A
U
That's
just
kind
of
standard
we're
going
to
need,
probably
equipment
and
the
vehicles
we're
getting
new
escapes
as
you're
as
you
have
approved,
and
aware
of
thank
you
for
that.
We're
going
to
need
some
equipment
for
those
are
going
to
have
to
be
outfitted
with
lettering
and
numbering
and
and
decals
and
stuff
like
that.
So
between
the
two.
I
don't
know
what
it's
going
to
run
shouldn't
be
over
that,
but
we're
going
to
use
some
of
that.
For
that.
U
E
About
37
500
right,
correct,
okay,
the
other
thing
I
I
want
to
piggyback
on
on
the
council
chair.
We've
got
55
000
in
part
time,
and
I
know
when
you
add
ahead:
it's
not
just
salary
that
we
look
at.
We
have
to
look
at
the
overall
package
of
of
benefits,
but
if
we
reduce
the
cost
of
overtime
and
reduce
part-time
and
we
get
a
full-time
per,
is
that
possible
that
we
can
get
a
one
person
for
that
amount
of
money?
B
What
ends
up
happening
here
with
the
part-timers?
You
cover
more
ground
you're,
going
to
you're
going
to
cover
more
areas
with
the
part-timers.
So
where
you
have
one
you,
may
you
may
so?
If
there's
four
areas
you
got
to
cover
because
you
you
have
four-part
timers,
you
get
one
full
timer.
You
may
only
be
able
to
cover
two
areas.
E
My
problem
with
the
part
timers:
are
you
train
them
and
then
they
leave
after
six
months
and
go
someplace
else.
They
either
go
find
full
time
work
somewhere
or
you
know
you
lose
that
and
then
now
you've
got
a
by
the
time.
This
person
gets
completely
trained,
they're
gone
right.
Now
you
got
to
start
all
over
so
you're
in
a
no-win
situation.
Again
right.
We.
E
A
B
Remember
what
I
want
to
caution
council
on
is
this
is
remember:
people
are
when
you
hire
initially,
it
looks
great,
but
then,
as
this
person
stays
and
they
start
walking
through
the
steps
of
the
of
the
salary
steps,
because
you're
looking
at
each
year
getting
a
five
or
six
percent
step
increase
till
they
hit
their
max
that
that's
when
you
run
into
trouble
because
now
you're
at
the
max
and
that
part-time
salary
or
the
overtime
or
the
combination
thereof,
doesn't
hold
water
or
you're
short.
You
gotta
come
from
somewhere
else.
E
E
P
N
You,
council
chair,
I
just
have
one
question
so
bill.
How
often
do
you
use
police
officers
when
you
can't
use
an
ordinance
officer
either
for
ordinance
violations
or
for
animal
violations
like
if
somebody's
got
a
marking,
dog
or
a
vicious
dog?
Is
that
ordinance
and
if
ordinance,
is
an
available
police
officer
or
when
do
you
ever
use
police
officers.
U
We
generally
have
a
ordinance
officer,
slash
animal
troughs
are
available.
We
have
a
one's
on
a
schedule
where
he
works
tuesday
through
friday,
so
we
pretty
much
cover
monday
through
friday,
regular
business
hours
with
respect
to
animal
control
during
the
off
hours
and
on
weekends
and
holidays.
Depending
on
the
situation,
an
officer,
a
police
officer
will
be
sent
if
it's
to
pick
up
a
stray
dog,
that's
a
huge
cost
savings.
U
U
I
that's
forty
percent
of
the
time.
I
don't
know
I've,
never
really
given
it
much
thought,
but
they,
the
truck,
is
left
at
the
police
department,
so
if
they
have,
if
they
have
the
manpower
and
the
ability
they'll
send
somebody
out
depending
on
the
situation,
if
it's
a
dog
bite,
the
police
department
will
always
send
somebody
out
if
it's
a
serious
dog
bite,
they'll
contact
me
and
we'll
I'll
send
I'll,
send
somebody
in
on
overtime
to
go
address
and
that's
why
we
have
the
overtime
budget
for
that
and
other
things
but
yeah.
J
J
J
U
U
Yeah
they're
they're,
not
cheap
anymore,
that
one,
the
one
that
we
have
on
the
dog
truck
right
now
was
on
there
when
I
was
an
animatro
officer
10
11
years
ago,
so
that
thing's
got
a
lot
of
miles
on
it.
It's
been
switched
on
to
the
new
chassis
that
we
had
at
the
world
of
2019.
It's
already
got
like
60
000
miles
on
that
truck,
so
that
thing
is
in
service
and
it's
seen
I've
seen
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
my.
You
know
how
the
roads
in
michigan.
Are.
U
J
You
know
I
mean
look,
this
is,
and
I
know
mr
supporter
did
a
phenomenal
job
with
his
budget,
but
I
think
this
is
where
he
goes
back
and
says:
what
can
the
director
bring
for
this
department?
Maybe
we
can
look
into
some
grants.
Well,
because
I
took
a
look
at
it.
Some
doors,
don't
open
some
doors,
don't
close
right
so.
E
C
K
A
U
U
B
B
B
At
the
end
of
the
day,
somebody
would
have
to
come
up
with
a
gift.
Okay,
somebody
wants
to
make
a
gift.
Gifts
are
tax
deductible,
and
if
somebody
wants
to
come
in
and
and
gift
the
city
and
the
council
agrees
to
accept,
said
gift
great:
let's,
we
can
bring
it
all
right,
but
somebody's
gotta
you
gotta,
have
a
gift.
There
has
to
be
something
in
writing.
It
has
to
be
formally
done,
has
to
be
formally
approved
and
the
gifts
gotta
specifically
state
what
the
money
is
to
be
used
for.
P
J
B
B
B
A
J
A
C
B
Yes,
it
is
okay,
yes,
sir!
So
if
you
move
to
page
33
there,
you
got
it
there.
You
go
young
man,
I'm
moving.
So
what
you're
going
to
find
there?
What
you're
going
to
find
there
is
the
the
animal,
the
animal
pro
professional
services?
Thank
you
and
we
have
fifty
thousand
dollars
set
up
there
and
we'd
like
to
we're
gonna
we'd
like
to
adjust
the
budget.
We're
gonna,
move
that
down
into
bill's
426
ordinance
section
and
get
it
out
of
this
general.
B
B
B
B
I
U
B
G
U
A
U
A
M
A
U
We've
already
agreed
to
the
lease,
and
mr,
mr
mr
dibb
is
actually
using
one
of
the
vehicles
right
now,
but
I
want
to
try
to
if
I'm
going
to
have
part-timers
in
here,
I'm
going
to
try
to
maximize
them
they're
going
to
be
working
28
hours
a
week.
That's
what
they're
allowed,
so
you
can't
really
split
okay.
You
know
what
I'm
saying
so,
I'm.
G
A
D
A
His
hand
up-
and
I
know
miss
jackson
at
one
point-
had
her
hand
up.
It
looks
like
she's
brought
it
back
down,
so
maybe
her
question
was
answered.
Miss
lynette
jackson,
if
you
come
up
with
a
question,
make
sure
you
raise
your
hand
I'll
be
more
than
happy
to
call
on
you,
but
for
right
now
we'll
go
ahead
and
go
to
vince
dropkowski.
A
L
C
C
L
Mr
edition
you're,
you
just
did
a
little
talent
hall
meeting
in
the
southern
city
and
you
were
stating
that
you
had
some
equipment
that
you
needed
for
the
cars
that
you
would
have
less
time
of
officers
at
city
hall.
Has
that
been
resolved
or
are
you
going
to
be
able
to
get
that
equipment
and
has
the
issue
been
resolved
where
you
you
requested,
mr
miyagi,
to
restate
or
reword
one
of
the
ordinances
to
make
your
job
easier
and
more
efficient?
U
L
U
U
When
I
did
it
back
when
I
was
an
animator
officer,
I
was
actually
in
the
police
department
and
I
actually
had
an
mdc
in
the
in
the
truck
that
I
was
authorized
to
use
lean
because
I
was
under
direct
control
of
the
police
department.
I
actually
filled
out
a
daily
log
and
all
that
stuff,
so
you
have
to
be
directly
in
the
police
department
to
have
actual
lien
access.
So
that's
not
that's
not
technically
allowed,
at
least
currently.
U
L
L
U
C
U
A
A
K
A
There
yeah-
that
would
be
the
best
time
for
that,
if
you
want
to
do
it
publicly
would
be
to
come
to
next
tuesday's
meeting
or
even
on
zoom
and
you'll.
Be
able
to
ask
that
it's
not
going
to
be
an
agenda
item
so
it'd
be
at
the
end
during
the
public
comments
or
if
you'd
like
to
get
a
little
more
clarification,
either
call
the
ordinance
department
directly
or
possibly
the
mayor's
office,
but
more
like
the
ordinance
department
bill.
What's
the
direct
number
to
your
office.
K
Oh,
I
was
gonna
say
I
did
see
it
on
social
media,
but
I
have
not
received
that
letter
personally,
I
haven't
had
anyone
come
out
to
my
home.
I've
been
here
since
2019,
so
I
just
kind
of
wanted
to
gauge
what
you
guys
were
looking
for.
I
know
you
mentioned
trees
and
I
have
this
huge
tree
in
front
of
my
house
that
I'm
scared
it's
going
to
fall
on,
but
I
don't
know
where
to
go
to
get
that
taken
care
of.
A
A
Can
go
from
there
right
and
then
and
then,
like
the
mayor,
just
mentioned
the
city's
going
to
be
putting
out
information
specifically
on
social
media
and
in
the
newspapers,
and
I
presume
on
the
website
too,
mr
mayor,
correct,
yeah
and
on
the
website.
The
mayor
is
saying
by
monday
maximum,
which
would
still
give
you.
You
know,
hopefully
plenty
of
time
for
you
and
other
residents
plenty
of
time
to
do
what
needs
to
be
done.
A
S
S
H
But
it
is
cedd,
not
cdbg
yet
here,
so
the
the
grant
from
what
subsidize
the
ordinance
department
with
with
time
that's
spent
by
the
ordinance
officer
in
the
eligible
area,
that's
approximately
between
the
building
and
the
ordinance
about
150
000
a
year.
So,
just
just
to
note
that
I
did
not
hear
anything
about
it,
just
just
noting
that
so
the
subsidy
comes
from
a
grant
to
to
the
ordinance
of
the
ordinance
department
and
the
building
and
engineering
department.
Thank
you.
B
C
C
J
B
That
would
that
would
include
that.
That's
in
the
seven
okay,
you
also
have
okay.
Where
am
I
here
we're
in
there
with
contractual
services
we
have
for
building
maintenance,
general
building
maintenance,
sixty
thousand
for
contractual
services,
general
repairs
were
appropriating
140
000
and
back
in
august
of
21
city
council
approved
the
purchase
of
various
equipment,
a
dump
truck
a
box
truck
a
ford
f-250,
an
air
lift
and
a
4-250
pickup.
These
are
all
replacements
of
current
vehicles
that
we
have
in
the
fleet.
B
That
was
a
that
was
approved
by
council
august
24
21,
and
we
have
not
made
payment
yet
we're
anticipating
that
will
happen
in
in
the
new
fiscal
year.
In
addition,
we're
asking
for
50
000
for
fuel
island
repairs
with
that.
I
turn
it
over
for
questions
again.
We're
looking
for
1
million
569
597.
before
we
move
forward.
A
Controller,
can
you
clarify
at
least
for
me,
because
I'm
not
sure
if
I
I'm
not
sure
if
that's
a
question
that
councilman
ahmad
was
trying
to
ask
because
he
was
asking,
I
think
you
were
asking
about
clerical
if
I'm
not
speaking,
right,
yeah,
that's
what
I
thought
so
when
you
say
seven
field
people.
I
know
they
may
do
some
clerical,
but
he's
talking
about
like
how
many
administrative
people.
B
B
V
A
V
Okay,
so
the
building
maintenance
department
doesn't
actually
have
a
dedicated
clerical
staff.
There
are
two
dpw
clerical
staffs
but
they're,
not
in
the
building
maintenance
budget,
because
building
maintenance
use
most
of
this
stuff
comes
through
internal
service
requests
emails.
The
the
minor
calls
that
they
get
that
come
into
the
dpw.
You
know
are
kind
of
insignificant,
so
therefore
we
don't
dedicate
a
person
to
them.
Okay,
switch
them.
A
B
A
E
Why
would
we
have
building
maintenance
with
dump
trucks,
box
truck
pickup
truck
aerial,
lift
all
under
building
maintenance
when
it's,
obviously
those
are
used
elsewhere,
instead
of
just
building
maintenance?
I
would
think
that
building
maintenance
is
more
just
all
the
buildings
that
the
city
owns
right.
V
The
dump
trucks
are
kind
of
just
the
general
term
they're.
The
f-450s
that
we
use
to
you
know
pull
the
mowers
around
in
to
plow
the
parking
lots
in
the
in
the
winter
time.
They're,
not
the
same
dump
truck
that
you
see
the
dpw
using
for
water
main
breaks,
or
you
know,
salting
and
plowing
the
highway
roads.
V
Truck
is
used
for
special
events
for
moving.
You
know,
tables
chairs
things
like
that
around
the
lift
is
the
one
where
remember
and
when
upon
approval
is
for
the
two-man
lift.
We
have
a
one-man
lift
now,
but
and
with
some
of
our
light
services
in
the
libraries
and
other
buildings
that
are
tall,
we
need
to
put
two
people
up
in
the
manhattan.
V
F
V
E
V
V
Right
but
I
mean
anything
that
would
anything
that
would
require
a
person
that
we
do
not
have.
We
would
have
a
contractor
do
so.
I
mean
my
internal
staff
would
handle
anything
up
into
the
point
where
it
would
require
a
special
license
or
something
like
that.
Then
it
would
go
to
our
contract
employees,
so
I
mean
we're
the
best
of
my
knowledge.
Basically
doing
you
know
general
services,
you
know,
so
anything
beyond
general
services
would
require
the
use
of
a
contractor
to
make
you
know
any
sophisticated
repairs.
Okay,
thank
you.
V
The
building
maintenance
department
is
basically
responsible
for
maintaining
buildings
and
grounds
that
the
city
owns,
such
as
the
the
city
hall
here
senior
centers
different
buildings
that
we've
acquired
that
require
their
service
and
maintenance.
As
far
as
grass
cutting
leaf
pick
up
on
our
snow
removal
during
the
winter
time,
you
know
any
general
services,
you
know
that
the
buildings
require
to
to
keep
them
operating.
You
know,
cleaning,
you
know,
snaking
out
a
plug
toilet.
O
I
B
I
I
B
I
V
V
V
V
Right
correct,
except
for
I
think
the
police
department
is
still
working
under
an
old
contract
and
maybe
one
of
the
fire
stations
as
well
as
working
under
an
all
contract,
but
those
are
all
the
ones
that
we
were
up
for
renewal
this
last
time
and
those
were
just
recently
approved.
I
think
in
in
this
current
year's
budget.
So.
V
B
Before
you
move
yeah,
I
misspoke
earlier
councilman
ahmad
the
electrical
piece
for
all
the
buildings
are
coming
out
of
this
line
and
I'm
out
of
the
utilities
line
at
them
beach
daily
fire
hq
the
richard,
a
young
center
berwin
city
hall,
to
name
a
few
are
coming
out
of
here.
What's
happening
here
is
we're
getting
we're
getting
an
invoice
with
all
the
with
all
the
buildings
on
there
and
they're
listed,
and
that's
what
is
it
just
electric.
B
A
Director,
I
I
had
a
question.
I
had
my
notes
here.
We
have,
and
this
is
a
reflection
of
a
multitude
of
departments,
not
just
yours,
but
I'm
very,
very
concerned.
I
spoke
to
mayor
about
this
about
a
week,
maybe
or
two
ago,
I'm
very
concerned-
and
this
is
not
a
reflection
of
this
particular
department,
but
multiple
departments
having
very
very
high
overtime
with
that
being
the
case
like
in
your
particular
case,
projected
activity
for
2021
22
despite
covet
is
at
188
000
for
overtime.
A
A
Are
we
not
able
to
find
enough
employees
and
then
the
second
question
today
is
when
it
comes
to
building
maintenance?
I'm
I'm
a
little
concerned
and
maybe
just
need
to
be
clarified
in
my
head
from
you.
How
something
building
maintenance
could
be
an
emergency
type
of
situation
where
somebody's
going
to
come
in
on
the
weekend
or
in
the
at
night
or
early
four
in
the
morning
or
whatever.
I'm
just
curious,
because
188
000
is
a
very,
very
high
amount.
V
I
mean
I'd
have
to
say
it.
It's
a
combination
of
everything
you
just
mentioned.
I
guess
there
are
some
things
that
a
lot
of
these
facilities
that
we
have
are
not
just
a
monday
through
friday
or
monday
through
thursday.
Here
operation
I
mean
you
know
we
have
police
and
fire
they're
24
7.,
I
mean
things
go
wrong
in
their
facilities.
V
You
know,
I'm
hoping
this
number
goes
down,
because
we
spent
a
considerable
amount
of
time
with
roof
leaks.
Last
year,
where
I
mean
I
had
to
have
staff
here
on.
You
know
fridays,
saturdays
and
sundays,
to
empty
buckets
because
the
water
was
coming
in.
So
much
and
you
know,
offices
were
flooding,
so
I
mean
you
know.
V
Unfortunately,
emergencies
never
come
when
you
are
here
on
a
regular
shift
and
then
you
know
yes,
there
are
some
situations
where,
with
you
know,
vacations
and
in
sick
time-
and
you
know
in
the
past
years
it
was
kovid
where
you
know
we
were
short
staff
and
a
lot
of
times
to
get
things
done,
such
as
grass
cutting
or
pushing
snow.
You
have
to
work
more
hours
than
you
know,
you'd
like
to.
If
you
had
everybody
there
when
you
needed
them,
you
know
it's.
V
So
it's
it's
a
it's
a
combination
of
just
about
everything
you
mentioned,
and
you
know,
if
you
have
more
staff,
you
can
always.
You
know,
do
more
and
I
mean
with
the
age
of
most
of
our
infrastructure
here
in
buildings,
I
mean
there's,
never
a
time
when
there's
not
enough
to
do.
I
mean
there's
probably
more
work
than
you
know.
A
That's
precisely
what
I'm
referencing
so
when
it
comes
to
weather
when
it
comes
to
I
mean
the
only
game,
changer
would
be
maybe
covet,
but
beyond
covid.
Everything
else
is
the
same
thing
that
happens
every
single
year
in
every
city
or
every
season.
I
should
say,
and
again
it's
not
just
a
reflection
on
your
particular
departments.
Every
department,
I've
seen
the
overtime
just
way
too
high,
and
I
had
a
conversation
with
the
mayor
about
it
and
he's
on
board
also
stating
that
the
overtime
is
just
too
high
on
a
lot
of
departments.
E
E
A
Where
I'm
going
with
this
is
I'm
just
wondering,
do
we
need
more
employees?
We
got
to
try
to
avoid
the
overtaking,
because,
needless
to
say,
let's
talk
about
the
elephant.
Room
overtime
is
one
and
a
half
times
the
pay,
so
I'm
just
wondering
as
a
city
for
all
departments
and
again,
there's
no
reflection
on
yours,
specifically
bob.
A
A
C
V
V
Well,
I
mean
even
to
minimize
it.
I
mean
you
know
anytime,
an
employee's
here
beyond
their
scheduled
shift
or
outside
their
scheduled
shift,
you're
paying
one
and
a
half
times
you
know
so
I
mean
you
would
need
multiple
shifts.
Then
you
know
you'd
need
you
know,
but
I
mean.
Is
it
prudent
to
have
people
here
for
an
emergency
that
may
or
may
not
occur?
Maybe
it
is,
but
I
mean
now
the
question
is
going
to
be
well,
you
have
three
employees
working
the
afternoon
shift
and
nothing
went
wrong.
V
J
Overtime
for
the
department
of
public
works
or
building
and
maintenance
is
astronomical
compared
to
what
we
are
at
and
it's
like
and
their
director
said,
and
you
know
if
there's
anybody
that's
wanting
to
save
on
this.
I
would
be
definitely
me,
but
you
know,
on
on
thanksgiving
where
my
neighbor
broke
his
water
main
line
at
the
eye
called
the
council,
man
that
guy's
going
to
get
paid
double
and
he's
coming
out
on
thanksgiving.
J
J
For
that
night,
but
go
ahead,
but
I
called
you
at
114
and
it
was
the
first
time
somebody
called
me
at
night,
but
either
or
if
you
look
at
dearborns,
I
think
their
overtime
on
and
this
here
is
close
to
400
000.
So
I
think
at
140
me
personally.
I
think
that's
even
we're
low
budgeting
this
right
here,
because,
if
guess
what
happens,
if
we
don't
get
enough
budgeted
for
it
and
as
we
know,
we
have
a
terrible
infrastructure
here
in
the
city
and
pipes
are
constantly
breaking
in
the
winter.
J
J
I
V
V
You
know,
if
you
start
splitting
up
your
your
staff,
I
mean
you
know
they.
They
do
occur,
a
reasonable
amount
of
vacation
and
sick
time
working
here,
and
I
mean
that's
some
of
the
issue
too.
Is
you
know
with
the
overtime?
Is
you
know
the
the
sick
and
vacation
time
that
people
use
during
the
summer
limits
the
number
of
people
you
have
to
do
all
the
work,
so
I
mean
you
know
sometimes
to
do
the
work
that
you
have
to
do
with
sick
and
vacant.
V
You
know
it
requires
you
to
push
beyond
your
normal
eight
hour
work
day
to
get
things
done
again.
I
mean
you
know,
these
are
all
things
that
you
know
have
been
negotiated
and
given
to
employees,
and
you
know
I'm
at
a
poker
game
and
you've
handed
me
the
cards
and
I
have
to
play
what
I
received
so
a
lot.
P
So
when
the
both
questions
that
you
guys
asked
both
councilmen,
we
we
actually
discussed
one
of
them
today.
You
know
regarding
the
split
shift,
you
know:
that's
I
mean
we're
we're
discussing
every
option
also
on
top
of
it,
you
know
in
the
past.
You
know
like
over
time
I
mean
I
remember
when
I
was
on
council.
That
was,
I
mean
their
overtime
budget
was
way
out
of
control.
P
So
one
of
the
things
that
we
started
doing
recently
is
we're
monitoring
every
week,
the
usage
of
overtime
and
we
actually
went
through
the
department
heads
and
we're
asking
questions
now.
Why
is
this
person
working
this
many
hours
on
overtime?
You
know
why
can
they
do
it
on
regular
time,
especially
certain
people
that
weren't
doing
anything
on
regular
work
time
so
that
stuff
was
asked?
Actually
today
was
one
of
them,
so
we
are
monitoring
the
administration
myself
and
the
chief
of
staff.
P
You
know
we're
monitoring,
elasticity
and
checking
over
time
excessive
use
of
overtime,
we're
checking
who's
using
it
and
why
we're
asking
directors
or
the
chiefs
you
know.
Why
is
that
person
using
that
much
over
time?
And
why
so?
We
are
monitoring
that
stuff
and,
and
also
the
other
thing
is
when
we,
when
we
get
the
overtime
budget,
the
first
time
that
was
actually
submitted.
P
I
can't
remember
the
amount,
but
it
was
a
heck
of
a
lot
higher
than
what
we
put
down
over
here,
because
every
person
asked
for
a
lot
more
over
time
than
what
we
put
down
here.
So
we
told
them
to
they
have
to
cut
it.
So
that
was
the
proposal
that
was
we.
We
went
back
and
negotiated
with
the
department
of
health.
I
P
I
P
E
A
C
M
A
We
set
a
meeting
for
tuesday
to
have
specifics
on
labor
negotiations
and
the
administration,
specifically
the
mayor's
office,
will
be
bringing
us
up
to
date.
As
far
as
where
we're
at
with
negotiations.
In
that
particular
point,
the
specifics
are
in
regards
to
negotiations
will
be
answered
to
you
directly
yeah,
it's
closed
session
because
negotiate
because
he's
bringing
us
up
today
on
negotiations
and
then
he'll
be
able
to
answer
whatever
I
mean
the
administration
will
answer
whatever
questions.
A
A
B
This
is
your
road
maintenance
section
of
the
city:
okay,
page
70
71,
under
the
blue
tab;
okay,
okay,
ready,
okay,
what
you
have
that?
What
you
have
in
front
of
you
is
that
is
we're
requesting
an
appropriation
for
2
million,
869,
525
and
included
in
that
is
13
staff,
which
would
be
nine
field
staff,
one
administration,
staff,
two
field
supervisors
and
one
director.
B
Now
there
is
an
adjustment
here
we
would.
We
would
request
that
we're
going
to
move
two
of
the
new
positions
out
of
water,
sewer
and
we'd
like
to
put
them
into
the
101
440
I
had
in.
I
had
made
the
mistake
of
of
putting
in
two
of
the
bodies
that
were
going
to
go
into
water
sewer
or
then
our
rain
water,
sewer
and
the
new
ones,
and
it
needs
to
go
into
the
440
account
which.
A
B
So
currently
we
have
nine
field
staff,
one
administration,
staff,
two
field
supervisors,
one
director
and
then
we
would
add
two
of
the
open
positions.
Remember
we
always
were
talking
about
five
in
the
water
sewer
section.
Two
of
those
five
would
come
into
this
department
and
I
should
have
appropriated
them
initially,
but
I
did
not.
That
was
my
mistake,
so
that
would
add
another
eighty,
eight
thousand
seven
hundred
and
sixty
dollars
to
the
salary
to
the
salaries.
B
B
B
C
B
B
B
B
B
B
B
Ad
nausea
for
each
department
in
in
here,
you'll
see
the
contractual
services
road
supplies,
street
signs,
contractual
services,
grass
cutting
tree
removal,
concrete
repairs,
underground
storage,
tank
insurance,
and
we
have
repairs
and
maintenance
on
equipment,
all
those
all
those
tailing
up
to
to
to
approximately
2.958
million.
I
I'll
turn
it
over
council
or
mr
chair
for
questions.
So.
A
I
have
a
concern
really
more
than
a
question,
slash
question.
So
this
is
the
department,
that's
been
the
actually
this
one
in
water
billing.
Our
two
departments
have
been
extremely
concerning
to
me,
of
course.
In
addition,
the
police
department,
adding
more
police
officers,
is
to
say
we
stay
safe,
of
course,
but
this
particular
department
has
been
very
very
concerning
to
me-
and
I
know
you
said
you're-
adding
two
new
positions,
but
they
handle
probably
so
there's
always
the
things
that
people
deal
with
on
the
kitchen
table
and
what
people
do
with
it.
A
The
kitchen
table
is
getting
the
snow
shoveled,
you
know,
and
this
one
I
know
it's
not
used
specifically
make
sure
the
garbage
is
picked
up.
Okay,
make
sure
the
trees
are
trimmed,
making
sure
that
the
streets
are
in
good
shape,
make
sure
that
the
trees
are
salted,
make
sure
that
the
the
manhole
covers
are
covered,
etc,
etc,
etc,
and,
if
there's
something
that
brings
in
the
most
concerns
from
residents,
whether
you
get
a
lot
of
our
my
emails,
robert
from
residents,
it's
this
one.
A
Why-
and
this
is
probably
a
question,
probably
more
for
administration
than
maybe
to
you
specifically,
why
can't
we
add
more?
It
really
concerns
me
with
all
the
stuff
that
they
do
and
I
know
we're
short
eight
people
at
least
that's
what
was
mentioned
at
one
point
at
one
of
the
meetings
through
negotiations
whatever,
but
to
have
just
nine
field.
Staff
really
scares
me
with
all
the
stuff
that
you
guys
do
and
I'm
just
wondering
why
we
don't
have
more,
and
it
could
be
my
ignorance
about
that
particular
department.
A
V
Fees
et
cetera,
predominantly
from
what
I've
noticed
from
the
way
things
have
been
done,
is
we're
pretty
much
maxing
out
our
act,
51
funds,
which
is
our
gas
and
weight
tax
that
we
receive,
which
pretty
much
funds
this
department.
So
I
mean
in
order
to
add
more
staff
and
to
do
more
work
internally.
We
would
have
to
stop
doing
something
else
like
street
and
road
construction.
So
I
mean
you
know.
V
For
years
the
the
city's
been
on
a
mission
to
you
know
have
construction
projects
where
we,
you
know,
remove
and
replace
sections
of
local
road,
remove,
remove
and
replace
sections
of
of
major
road,
and
you
know
those
projects
usually
run
a
million
two
million
dollars
a
year
for
each
one
of
those
you
know
categories
I
mean
in
order
to
add
more
staff,
to
do
more
internal
work.
You'd
have
to
stop
doing
less
of
the
major
construction.
You
have
a
limited
amount
of
money
which
we
receive
from
act,
51
for
gas
and
weight
tax.
V
So
I
don't
believe,
there's
anything
that
says
we
have
to
spend.
You
know
half
of
that
money
or
you
know
a
particular
amount
of
that
money.
On
you
know
construction,
but
it
does
say
that
it
has
to
go
to
road
repairs
and
maintenance.
So
I
mean
you
know
I
guess
we
could
at
some
point
if
we
wanted
to
say:
okay,
we're
not
going
to
do
any
more
street
improvements
anymore,
we're
just
going
to
maintain
what
we
have.
V
You
know
we
could
make
that
choice,
but
I
mean
I
think
you
know
it's
best
to
strike
a
balance
between.
You
know,
repair
and
cons.
You
know
maintenance
and
construction.
You
know,
could
the
scales
be
moved
in
one
way
or
another
to
do
less
construction
and
more
maintenance?
That
could
happen
or
we
could
tip
the
scale,
the
other
way
to
do
less
cons.
You
know
maintenance
and
more
construction.
Well,.
A
I
bring
this
up
because
this
will
eliminate
probably
about
90
percent,
just
a
random
number
of
the
calls
that
either
council
members
get
or
I'm
sure
the
administration
gets
about
complaints.
So
let
me
give
you
an
example:
it's
just
a
hypothetical
and
I'm
going
to
speak
in
just
layman's
terms,
I'm
not
a
dpw
guy
or
director.
So,
for
example,
snowplowing
right.
A
If
we
had
just
hypothetically
just
hypothetically
here,
four
additional
employees,
then
maybe
if
it
snowed
at
you
know
10
a.m,
maybe
it
might
be
done
by
2
p.m,
instead
of
by
9
p.m
or
instead
of
the
next
day
or
whatever.
It
is.
I'm
just
thinking
out
loud
here.
If
there's
a
way
for
the
administration
to
find
additional
employees.
G
Mr
chair,
I
just
wanted
to
add
one
more
thing.
So
part
of
the
challenge
we
have
in
the
city
is
that
we,
we
lack
the
engineering
department
in
most
cities,
and
I
know
council
mobile
doom,
keep
referring
to
dearborn.
Dearborn
has
the
engineering
part
as
part
of
dpw,
which
is
totally
different,
because
I
talked
to
dearborn
quite
a
bit.
G
We
we.
What
we
lack
is
the
fact
that
we
don't
have
a
capital
program.
So
what
we
rely
is
on
on
the
on
dpw
to
do
the
things
that
normally
are
done
under
capital
program.
So
but
the
director
was
correct,
he's
using
act,
51
money,
we
we
max
them
out.
What
we
don't
have
is
a
capital
program
which
is
generated
after
you.
G
Do
your
master
program,
end
of
life
replacement,
planned
replacement
of
any
roads,
bridges
or
any
of
the
infrastructure
that
you
have
has
to
be
part
of
a
plan,
because
that
will
allow
you
to
go
after
funding.
So
adding
people
are
adding
more.
It
doesn't
make
sense
to
do
it
as
a
general
fund.
You
don't
really.
You
can't
afford
that.
You
can't
afford
replacing
14
bridges
or
planned
replacement
of
the
the
capital.
G
G
A
Okay-
and
I
I
don't
have
all
the
answers,
but
I
I
tell
you
every
winter
every
time
it
snows,
as
you
know,
40
calls
come
in
and
look
so
most
of
them
are
justified.
You
know
why
is
my
snow
done?
Why
is
my
street?
Not
you
know
shoveled?
Why
they
do
that
street,
not
the
street
why'd
they
not
put
outside
on.
A
G
The
administration
test
internally:
this
is
what
I'm
tasked
with
to
allow
our
departments
to
function,
to
go
back
to
their
core
business,
which
is
a
dpw
business.
To
allow
to
take
care
of
things
like
you
mentioned
the
potholes,
the
trees,
the
you
know,
but
but
then
they
can't.
You
have
to
have
another
program
running
the
capital
program.
To
do
the
things
that
you
need
to
get
done.
I
mean
you
know
the
reason.
G
Some
of
the
failed
roadway
we
have
is
because
you
can't
maintain
something:
that's
beyond
its
useful
life,
you're
trying
to
extend
something
that,
but
you
have
to
have
a
planned
replacement.
I
mean
the
pavement
doesn't
last
forever.
You
know
I
get
to
a
point.
This
is
what
the
capital
program
is
going
to
do
for
us,
in
addition
to
actually
seeking
funds
elsewhere,
so
you're,
not
budgeting
that
planned
replacement
and
your
budget.
G
That's
we
want
to
allow
them
to
do
not
just
the
dpw
but
the
rest
of
the
department
engineering,
the
same
way,
all
the
rest
of
them.
Once
you
have
that
in
place,
the
you
know,
you'll
have
the
process
by
which
you
know
capital
program,
even
even
the
stuff
that
we're
doing
now.
You
know
infrastructure.
We
have
infrastructure
that
is
beyond
a
useful
life.
We
know
that,
but
you
know
adding
more
people
to
dpw
to
to
respond
to
emergencies
and
repair
them
is
really
not
the
answer.
That's
the
expense.
G
V
A
A
B
A
C
A
A
Engineer
did
it
any
other
council
members,
okay,
hearing,
none
anybody
in
the
audience
in
regards
to
dpw,
specifically
and
by
the
way
director
what
I
said
about
dpw,
I
mean
in
a
complementary
way.
Those
guys
and
gals
are
handling
a
lot
of
stuff
with
very
limited
resources.
I
get
it
I'm
just
asking
to
give
you
guys
more
resources
some
way.
Somehow,
maybe
our
grant
manager
or
writer
can
one
day
bring
that
in
hopefully,.
V
C
A
V
Complicated
it
is
to
do
local
roads.
I
mean
you
know
that
kind
of
mileage
on
a
county
road
you
know,
is
not
a
big
deal,
but
when
you
get
into
residential
neighborhoods
that
that's
tricky
work
and
I
hate
to
brag
about
it.
But
you
know
we
didn't,
have
any
accidents
this
year
plowing
this.
So
I
mean
I
every
other
community
that
I
talked
to
had
accidents.
So
I
probably
shouldn't
have
said
that,
because
knock
on
wood,
yep.
A
D
D
B
B
E
J
B
E
B
B
B
The
major
street
is
36.26
36.
I
got
this
right
off
the
I
got
this
right
off
the
state
website
36.26
miles.
I
swear
to
god,
okay,
all
right,
so
so
the
148.8.
What
we're
looking
at
is
this
is
our
match
for
telegraph
and
ford
road
that
bob
talked
about
earlier
tonight.
That's
going
on
that!
You
can
see
that
construction
happening
right
now.
E
V
V
B
Okay
and
then,
when
you
look
at
line
item
202
202,
880
300,
this
would
be
street
construction
repair,
so
we're
talking
I'll.
Let
bob
allude
a
little
bit
about
these
are
streets
to
be
determined
and
we're
looking
to
fund
1.572
million
for
street
reconstruction
and
bob.
If
you
want
to
touch
on
that
a
little
bit.
V
S
A
A
V
V
E
O
D
V
V
V
V
V
C
K
V
E
V
Well,
I
mean
you,
can
you
know,
do
a
project
where
you
know
you
remove
the
asphalt
you
can
go
down
and
do
some
deep
strength,
concrete
repairs
and
then
put
asphalt
over
where
you're
not
doing
a
full
road
replacement.
You
know
it
would
definitely
add
more
cost
than
just
a
million
resurface,
but
it
would
be
far
less
expensive
than
a
complete,
remove
and
replace,
because.
E
You
know
you
know
to
me:
the
blacktop
is
a
band-aid.
We
see
it
all
the
time.
Inkster
road
take,
for
instance,
from
from
ford
road
all
the
way
down
to
five
mile
four
or
five
years,
and
that's
it
I
mean
it's
all
busted
all
up,
and
you
know
we
had
the
the
lewis
manor
subdivision
done,
and
people
now
complaining
where
water
is
sitting
in
their
driveways,
where
they
never
had
it
before,
but.
D
A
Thing
that's
right,
but
I
I'm
swinging
on
my
behalf
of
myself
only.
I
think
I
agree
with
them
to
do
based
on
the
numbers
that
the
engineer
told
us
half
a
mile
or
quarter
mile
or
even
a
mile
of
something
just
wouldn't
make
any
logical
sense.
I
think
I'd
agree
with
the
director
personally
to
bump
that
out
into
into
next
year,
and
and
since
this
is
not
an
item
that
we
need
to
have
a
quick
discussion,
are
you
guys,
okay
with
that?
Or
would
you
rather
have
them
use
it
right
now.
I
G
V
Any
city
could
could
occur
any
25
to
50
percent
of
that
money
and
you
have
to
put
in
a
20
match
state.
The
federal
aid
pays
80.
So
I
mean
you
know,
cherry
hill,
you
know
maybe
a
good
one,
because
you
know
we
could
probably
partner
with
the
city
of
inkster,
where
you
know
we
would
be
now
two
communities,
so
we
would
probably
be
able
to
do
that.
Entire
stretch
from
you
know
beach
daily
to
inkster,
and
you
know,
go
to
the
beach
daily.
V
O
V
Communities
rather
than
one
so
I
mean
that
that
has
been
one
of
my
thoughts.
I
haven't
discussed
any
of
this
with
them
at
all,
but
I
mean
you
know.
I've
had
from
my
experience
with
the
county
that
that
that
is
a
something
I
don't
know
if
this
community's,
I
don't
recall
in
all
the
federal
aid
meetings
I've
been
in
seeing
a
dearborn
heights
federal
aid
project,
okay,.
A
D
K
C
B
B
I
B
A
B
So
remember,
plant
moran
came
in
with
a
study
and
they
they
set
up
number
of
streets
number
of
projects.
That
council
had
seen
that
in
prior
years.
This
the
the
the
3.798
million
was
following
that
study
and
we're
coming
to
the
end
of
that
study.
That
study
is
pretty
much
complete
and
we're
starting
into
the
next.
The
next
go-round.
B
If
it
is
required
to
sir
that
is
correct
this
this,
what
we're
looking
at
right
now
is.
Is
we
get
on
a
monthly
basis,
the
gas
tax
revenues
they
drop
into
the
fund
and
they
have
to
stay
here
then?
What
happens
is
we?
Our
requirements
can
only
be
spent
on
roads,
and
then
we
have
to
report
annually
to
the
michigan
department
of
transportation
on
those
expenditures.
B
V
I
B
Okay,
so
what
that
does
is
that
pays
for
the
comptroller's
office,
the
treasurer's
office
it
reimburses
for
mr
did?
Okay,
so
the
the
other
line
items
that
we
didn't
cover
here,
that's
part
of
the
transfer
that
goes
up
to
the
general
fund
that
covers
those
expenses
in
the
general
fund
that
we
just
covered
in
101
440.,
so
that
495
is
going
to
is
going
to
cover
bob
his
administrative
staff.
There
will
be
a
piece
of
us
in
finance,
it'll
be
a
piece
of
mr
dibb,
and
that's
that
covers
that
also
you're.
B
Well,
what
happens
is
we
account
for
it
in
in
371
department,
but
we
transfer
the
money
into
general
fund
to
cover
that
expense
from
this
operating
fund.
Okay,
good
question:
good
question:
okay,
all
right!
If
we,
if
there's
no
more
questions
here,
I
would
ask
that
we
move
to
page,
which
is
the
local
street
fund.
Okay,
same
premise:
as
we
talked
about
major
street
fund,
there
are
two
line
items
here:
the
first
one
203
203,
880
300..
C
D
A
Let's
talk
plain
english,
I
always
like
playing
english
sure.
So
if
we're
talking
about
kenmore,
you
know
merrick,
you
know
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
all
these
small
streets
and
for
all
of
them
combined
right.
We're
only
going
to
change
one
million
dollars
worth
of
street
just
yeah,
I
don't
know
my
brain
is
just
not
comprehending
this
honestly
because.
I
A
A
B
A
A
I
would
have
a
hard
time
telling
her
296
000
last
year.
Some
doesn't
add
up.
Some,
it
seems
like
there's
got
to
be
either
money
somewhere
else
like
it
just
my
brain's,
just
not
getting
it,
it
would
only
be
a
quarter
million
dollars
spent
on
you
know
local
streets
of
what
would
you
say
almost
160
miles
of
street
doesn't
mean
so
he's
like.
We
have
a
lot
more
problems
than
just
one
million
dollars
worth
or
I'm
sorry,
296
thousand
dollars
worth.
Oh.
A
I
mean
there's
what
I
emailed
you
today
about
the
director,
the
one
on
on
crestwood
and
a
resident
sent
me
the
video
you
seen
the
video
and-
and
I
emailed
you
just
go
look
at
it.
I
just
happened
to
have
driven
on
charlesworth
and
crestwood
the
the
the
other
day
and
seen
it.
You
know,
while
showing
property
as
a
realtor,
it's
mad,
and
so
how
do
I
explain
to
that
particular
resident?
How
well
we
only
spent
a
quarter
million
dollars
last
year,
but
don't
worry
about
your
street.
A
It
just
doesn't
I'm
just
not
getting
it
honestly,
why
we
didn't
spend
more
money
or
why
we
didn't
find
more
money
or
why
we
didn't
get
more
grants
or
or
even
at
the
worst
case,
tax
people
a
little
bit
more
okay.
I
know
people
are
gonna,
go
crazy
about
that,
but
some
but
listen.
We
gotta
fix
these
streets
and
I'm
not
blaming
you
right,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
it
does
start
with
you.
A
V
Season
it's
a
problem
throughout
michigan
that
everybody's
roads
are
in
poor
condition.
The
state
underfunded
its
road
system
for
nearly
20
years.
They
just
recently
had
made
adjustments
to
the
gas
and
weight
tax
to
and
increase
the
price
of
at
the
pump
to
give
each
community
and
the
state
and
the
counties
more
operating
for
construction.
V
A
A
Then,
but
then
it's
on
us,
then
we're
doing
something
wrong.
If
we're
only
spending
296
000,
then
then,
if
we
don't
have
okay
enough
employees,
then
it
goes
back
to
where
I
spoke
about
earlier
that
maybe
we
need
more
employees.
I
don't
have
all
the
answers,
I'm
just
a
world
councilman,
okay,
what
I'm
saying
is
we
got
to
figure
out
something
to
fix
these
damn
roads.
I.
G
The
the
the
the
okay,
we
inherited
a
system
that
wasn't
this
administration,
that
we
we
didn't
have
a
system
in
place.
You
know
the
proper
way
to
do
these
things
with.
There
is
a
road
evaluation.
There
is
a
prod,
a
product
called
pacer
pavement
evaluation
system.
So
where
you
go
in
and
you
drive
all
your
your
city
and
then
you
rate
all
these
systems,
so
we've
had
some
of
it
done
before,
but
we
never
really
put
that
information
to
use.
B
G
Well,
it's
I'm
not
trying
to
justify
I'm
just
saying
that
we
came
in
to
a
process
that
was
not
functioning,
so
everything
is
being
created,
as
my
chief
of
staff
says
one
brick
at
a
time,
you're
building
your
birthday
in
the
city,
one
brick
at
a
time
into
modern
system,
but
that's
how
it
starts.
So
it's
you
can't
just
throw
money
arbitrarily
you
need
to
have
you
want
to
justify
it
so
when
you
go
with
the
pacer,
so
we're
currently
going
out
to
to
to
hire
a
consultant
to
do
that.
G
G
And
then
you
well
yeah
and
then
you
will
put
a
price
on
price
tag
so
that,
as
councilman
muscat
said
you
you
know,
then
you
would
decide
based
on
your
expected
level
of
service.
For
that
particular
road.
Do
you
need
to
put
an
overlay
or
a
complete
reconstruction
that
will
have
a
big
difference?
This
is
how
the
progress
starts,
but.
A
I
respectfully
disagree.
Okay,
because-
and
I
see
I
know
you're
engineers,
so
everything's
got
to
be
assassed
and
excel
sheets,
and
all
that
I
get
that
okay,
but
even
even
just
plain
old
again,
I
like
to
go
back
to
just
basic
just
plain
old,
john
doe
me
that
can't
even
put
a
light
bulb
in
driving.
I
mean
one
that
comes
to
mind
right
now.
I
drove
on
evangeline
at
one
point.
This
is
just
north
of
hass
and
driving
south
off
warren
avenue
going
to
an
appointment.
A
A
Saying
director
or
engineer,
if
I
look
at
that-
and
I
know
nothing-
I
don't
know
how
to
I
can't
put
a
light
bulb
in
and
I
look
at
that
and
I
go
man.
This
thing
is
a
mess.
I
don't
know
why
we're
even
attempting
to
fix
that
ethics
should
be
replaced,
and
then
I
take
a
look
at
the
numbers.
The
the
accounting
part-
and
I
say
oh
only
296
was
that's
where
I
don't.
I
don't
I
don't
I'm
not
getting
the
cash,
I'm
not.
G
Going
to
justify
the
296,
but
I'm
going
to
give
you
one
example,
so
we
just
put
a
project
out
on
the
street.
That's
going
to
take
two
years
in
an
area
that
is
combined
cso
that
I
know
we
have.
I
just
received
two
calls
today
about
water
pounding
in
that
location,
which
we
know.
The
reason
for
that
in
the
streets
is
because
we
have
a
combined
system
and
restricted
catch
basins.
Intentional,
so
is
it
is
it
is
it?
G
A
J
N
I
B
I
B
B
Right
yeah,
so
he's
got
to
work
in
that
section.
Mr
did
has
to
work
in
that
section
in
order
to
get
reimbursed.
We
just
can't
reach
in
and
grab
the
dollars
from
the
major
street
fund
in
the
local
street
fund.
We
keep
intricate
time
records
and
those
those
time
records
are
accounted
for
and
allocated,
and
that
and
we
have
to
justify
that
to
the
state
of
michigan
on
an
annual
basis.
V
B
But
not
administration
right.
We
could
not
use
the
administration
line
item
that
you're
talking
about
there
for
wade,
trim.
Who
would
not
do
that?
Okay,
okay,
weight
trim
would
come
out
of
weight,
trim
would
come
out
of
203
203
880
300,
or
they
would
come
out
of
203
203
880
600
when
they
do
the
work
and
they
apply.
You
know
so
say
they're
working
on
a
local
road
project.
The
engineering
expenses
from
the
from
the
third
party
engineer
would
be
charged
right
to
the
line
item
for
their
time.
I
B
I
I
J
B
I
don't
want
to
do
accounting
here,
but
what
will
happen
here
is
if
you
look
at
the
two
mill
in
the
lower
right
hand,
corner
2577
133,
you
see
that
there
if
everything
is
spent
in
accordance
with
with
the
requested
and
the
recommended
budget,
if
everything
is
spent-
and
we
in
my
projection
comes
true
for
21
22
at
the
end
of
the
year.
We'll
have
two
point:
five,
seven,
seven
million
dollars
left
over
for
next
fiscal
year.
B
B
M
B
So
what
will
happen
is
this
is
my
exp,
my
my
expenses
will
be
accounted
for
in
in
the
comptroller's
budget?
Okay,
now,
on
the
revenue
side,
on
page
five,
when
we
went
to
page
five
and
we
I
showed
you-
the
3.1
million,
I'm
bringing
the
expenses
shown
here
in
203
203
895
0
000
the
transfer
to
general
fund
to
cover
my
expenses
here
and
the
revenues
in
general
fund
and
then
that
revenue
covers
my
expense.
B
C
A
C
H
Again,
good
afternoon,
responding
to
to
the
chair,
you
know,
let
me
put
it
in
a
in
a
nutshell
to
support
engineer.
You
know
ali
they.
You
know
you
have
when
you
when
you
read
the
other
report,
you
should
read
about
depreciation,
so
our
equipment,
the
city
equipment,
municipal
equipment,
municipal
street,
municipal,
underground
infrastructure,
like
sewage
and
water
infrastructure,
they
all
depreciate
the
problem
in
the
city
that
we
did
not
appropriate
the
last
maybe
20
years
anything
you
know
like
infrastructure
bonding,
so
you
can
replace.
H
We
did
the
minimum
we
can
for
the
city
to
survive.
Remember
the
city
went
into
to
to
deficiency
in
2011.
You
know
we
get
out
of
that.
You
know
budget
deficiency
in
2015.,
but
again
you
know
for
whatever
reason,
maybe
because
the
city
status
was
not
allowing
for
bonding.
But
usually
you
know,
infrastructures.
H
H
100
million
dollars
to
do
the
depreciated
infrastructure
over
those
50
years,
the
same
thing
with
the
house,
so
you
know
when
you
have
depreciation,
you
take
every
year
depreciation
from
your
taxes
because
of
depreciated
value
over
30
years
or
you
fix
assets.
If
you
don't,
you
know,
take
care
of
those
okay,
I
see
the
15
seconds.
You
know
it's
very
important
to
for
the
public
to
know.
Sometimes
you
exceed
that
time.
So,
if
you
don't
take
care
of
the
created,
you
know
structure
of
your
house
over
30
years.
H
You
know
when
that
appreciated
you
end
up
after
30
years.
You
need
a
couple
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
do
and
and
to
fix
your
house,
and
this
is
what
happened.
You
know
that
you
know
that
chair.
You
are
in
the
market,
you
understand
all
this.
So
now
you
are
facing
that
situation
in
dearborn
eyes.
Thank
you
all
administration,
current
administration.
This
administration
is
trying
to
fix
what's
being
neglected
for
years.
Thank
you.
Director
have
a
nice
day.
Q
E
Q
Without
playing
party
politics,
because
this
is
not
the
place
for
it
when
we
had
the
pandemic
and
everybody
was
at
home
and
no
one
was
driving
that
affected,
what
city
got
for
act?
51,
money,
gas,
tax
money
with
people
still
at
home.
It
still
affects
the
gas
tax
money,
the
legislature
they're,
calling
for
a
gas
tax
repeal
for
a
few
months
that
affects
gas
tax.
All
that
affects
what
this
city
gets,
and
what
mr
did
mr
conrad
and
with
the
mayor
and
what
you
guys
can
spend.
Q
A
B
A
A
Okay,
that's
fine,
absolutely
all
right!
Okay,
so
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
take
a
little
four
or
five
minute
break
come
back.
I
thank
you.
Chief
of
staff,
mariana
bring
in
the
hours
comptroller.
Thank
you,
adib,
director
mayor,
everybody
else.
Thank
you.
So
we'll
come
right
back
in
about
four
or
five
minutes.
Six
minutes,
seven
minutes.
B
We
would
like
to
go
to
page
101
of
the
last
great
job.
Thank
you,
sir.
Thank
you
all
right
101..
This
is
our
last
operating
fund,
guys
we're
in
the
we're
in
the
0.2
of
a
marathon
we're
in
the
0.2
home
stretch
here.
This
is
the
last
operating
fund,
which
is
the
water
sewer
fund,
the
the
enterprise
fund
of
the
city,
and
we
are
asking
to
appropriate
47
47
million
975
146
with
the
revision.
E
C
B
B
When
you
look
at
the
three
departments
there
are
over
two
there's
there
are:
there
is
200
000
in
overtime
we
in
in
each
department,
we've
within
the
within
the
water
sewer
fund,
we've
added
the
longevity,
the
health
and
life,
the
employer,
contribution
for
social
security
and
pension
and
for
the
longevity
it's
16
305
dollars.
The
health
and
life
across
the
three
departments
is
462
161
and
the
employer
contributions
for
social
security
and
pension
472
651.
B
Now
that's
spread
among
three
departments
within
this
operating
fund.
I'm
giving
you
the
the
ten
thousand
foot
we'll
go
through
page
by
page
in
a
second
okay,
we're
also
in
this
in
this
operating
fund,
appropriate
asking
for
an
appropriation
of
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
the
op
op
pre-fund.
There's
915
000
worth
of
concrete
repairs.
B
Mr
chair
915,
for
in
here,
we'll,
which
you'll
see
here
you'll,
also
see
the
fema
grand
expenditures.
1.125
million
we
you'll,
see
global
estimated
water
purchases,
you'll
see
sewage
purchases
for
7.5,
but
remember
we
increased
that
to
7.8,
based
upon
the
the
revised
billing
that
we
received
from
from
dua.
B
We
also
have
the
bond
expense
expenditures
you're
going
to
see
in
a
moment
for
the
l42
project.
The
csol
42
project
for
11.3
million,
9
million
for
meter.
Replacements
will
be
in
here
1.265
million
for
cleaning
and
lining
of
sewer
lines.
There's
a
street
sweeper
replacement
in
here,
and
there
are
11
debt
issues,
totaling
2.489
million
dollars,
which
we
will
get
to
in
a
moment.
So
if
you
would
take
a
look
at
101,
this
is
the
water
section
of
of
the
the
of
the
of
the
operating
fund.
B
E
E
B
B
B
B
Yes,
sir,
yes,
sir,
that's,
okay,
that's
all
right!
The
536!
Thank
you,
councilman
appreciate
it.
You
you've
got
you
got.
We
have
an
opening
in
the
finance
department
in
the
comptroller
section,
the
536
designates
water
water
department,
okay,
and
that
will
change
as
we
go
through
the
pages
and
I'll
highlight
them
to
you
as
we
work
through.
A
D
So
when
somebody's
contacting
the
water
building
the
phones
ring
on
and
on
and
on
because
you
only
have
one
person,
sometimes
you
have
two
running
those
particular
phones.
You
don't
have
enough
people
going
up
testimeters,
you
only
have
one.
If
I'm
not
so
to
me,
there's
not
enough
employees
there
and
again
I
don't
have
all
the
answers.
D
A
A
C
B
B
You've
got
to
work
with
with
you
got
to
work
with
the
unions
that
are
that
are
here
because
there's
change
in
duty,
so
you've
got
to
go
through
that
kind
of
discussion,
but
that
comes
to
mind
right
off
the
bat
making
sure
you
have
two
in
the
office
at
all
times
using
you
know
people
from
other
departments
to
make
sure
that
you
have.
You
have
two
people
in
that
section.
At
all
times,
one
handle
the
customer
one
to
handle
the
phone,
and
then
you
have
the
gentleman
there
he's.
B
D
A
So
I'm
just
going
to
go
back
just
in
case
for
those
on
zoom.
They
didn't
hear
what
I
said:
I'm
gonna
summarize
it
in
one
or
two
senses.
There's
been
a
very
serious
challenge
in
the
water
billing
department,
consistently
where,
if
residents
call
in
you
know
it's
a
long
wait
before
somebody
can
answer,
and
the
concern
is
obviously
there
may
not
be
enough
human
power
in
there
to
be
able
to
solve
it.
A
Sometimes
it's
justified,
sometimes
there's
a
meter
problem,
but
if
somebody
has
a
problem
with
their
water
meter
and
they
want
the
water
department
to
send
out
somebody
to
to
have
it
tested
with
just
one
person
if
that
person
calls
in
sick
now,
we
got
another
two
three
four
day
delay
not
to
mention
sometimes
like
I
think
a
week
week
and
a
half
for
they
could
come
out
if
not
longer.
Why
have
we
not
asked
for
more
human
power
in
there?
Well,.
B
B
So
that's
here
that
has
to
happen,
there's
no
question
about
it
and
that'll
help
the
meter
reader
situation.
Now,
as
far
as
as
operations
go
in
the
administration,
you've
got
to
take
that
day
by
day.
You
have
to
make
sure
you
have
two
at
this
point
in
time.
We
have
not
asked
there's
again
you're
looking
for
you
know
how.
C
B
A
E
P
B
P
You
know
if
you
bring
somebody
in
you
know
I
I
just
don't
know
what
can
be
the
future
when
we
bring
in
the
water
meters
like
who's
going
to
be
doing
what
so
I
mean
the
water
meters
we're
pretty
close
to
bringing
in
a
proposal
in
front
of
the
council
in
in
the
near
future.
So
that's
going
to
change
the
dynamics
of
the
whole
department.
P
P
It's
like,
for
example,
you
don't
have
to
go
in
in
the
field
to
go
check.
You
can
have
people
like
right
there
in
front
of
a
laptop
you'll,
be
looking
up.
You
know
what
the
real
estate
agents
want.
You
know
like
up
to
the
minute.
You
know
a
water
reading,
especially
if
you're
doing
a
closing
or
you
know
like
a
billing.
You
know
you
can
find
out
by
by
the
minute.
You
know
what
the
water
bills
will
be
and
if
they
have
a
water
loss
or
anything
like
that.
P
P
G
This
smart
meter
technology-
that's
coming
up.
It's
part
of
that
project
is
already
a
bond
funded
project
and,
as
the
mayor
indicated,
we'll
address
a
lot
of
these
things.
There
will
be
a
lot
of
changes
and
our
staff
will
be
able
to
be
a
lot
more
efficient
because
they
don't
have
to
be
responding
in
addition
to
the
bad
meter
situation,
because
we're
replacing
them
in
phases
we're
going
to
have
the
data
available
for
them
to
be
a
lot
more
efficient,
so
they'll
be
okay.
B
Per
contract
we
paid
at
a
certain
time
a
year,
and
it's
coming
up
so
between
march
and
june,
we're
paying
that
uniform
allowance
to
the
to
the
uniform
to
the
to
the
to
the
union,
people
who
are
entitled
to
that
benefit.
Okay,
so
and
then
we're
also
paying
for
somebody
tears,
something
that
we
have
to
replace.
B
A
Left:
okay,
good,
okay,
my
concern
again
and
I'm
going
to
make
a
statement.
We
don't
need
to
discuss
it
because
we've
already
discussed
it,
but
we
got
to
continue
to
work
on
the
overtime
because,
like
in
this
particular
case,
we
have
almost
93
000
projected
use
of
overtime
right.
This
would
be
line
items
last,
six
dot,
number
709
period,
zero,
zero,
zero,
correct!
B
B
Go
to
the
next
page:
okay,
next
page
102..
Okay,
what
you're
going
to
find
here
is
water
expenses,
you're,
going
to
see
professional
contractual
services
for
145
000
you're,
going
to
see
you're
going
to
see
70
000
715
for
regular
contractual
services,
you're
going
to
see
concrete
repair.
So
when
we
do
water
mains
and
we
have
to,
we
have
to
fix
the
street
you'll
see
950.
We
have
915
000
set
up
for
that.
B
A
J
B
A
The
question
I
have
the
requested
budget
is
145
000
and
that's
for
again
budgeted
for
weight,
trim,
gfl
flood
cleanup
now
since,
as
we
all
know,
there's
a
underground
infrastructure
issue
with
multiple
cities,
not
just
our
city-
and
I
know
our
administration
and
alidib-
is
working
on
hopefully
trying
to
find
a
long-term
solution
for
this.
But
until
we
do
that
problem
has
not
gone
away
and
more
than
likely
it's
going
to
rain
again
and
more
likely
it's
going
to
rain
hard
again-
and
I
hope
no
resident
has
any
problems.
A
But
let's
talk
about
the
reality,
there
could
be
issues
coming
up
with
that
being
the
case
since
we
spent
or
used
through
the
end
of
the
budget
season,
685
000.
Why
are
we
only
budgeting
145,
quite
a
bit
less
and
then,
if
god
forbid
something
happens
now
we're
going
to
go
back,
try
to
figure
out
a
way
to
get
another.
Six
hundred
thousand.
B
C
B
This
storm
again
for
for
10
years,
the
way
the
way
the
environment
is
going
now,
but
what
happened
here
is
if,
if
something
did
happen
and
you
had
to
spend
the
money,
that's
where
fund
balance
comes
from.
That's
where
your
unrestricted
fund
balance
is
used
for
that
type
of
emergency
situation,
okay,
but
we're
planning
for
a
a
normal
average
year.
That's
what
the
that's!
What
the
spending
plan
is
all
about,
and
if
you
go
to
the
left
for
2021,
if
you
look
in
that
column,.
B
A
A
J
B
B
B
J
B
B
D
I
B
But
sometimes
what
happens
is
the
water
will
pick
up
part
of
the
expense?
Also,
so
let's
say
you
have
a
water
main
break
and
it
affects
the
trees,
and
you
got
to
call
a
tree
service
in
water
fund
will
pick
up
part
of
that
cost.
It's
it's
an
eligible
expense,
depending
on
what
what
has
happened
or
if,
if
a
tree
has
has
gone
into
into.
C
V
V
B
Now
we're
going
to
103.
all
right:
okay,
we're
going
to
complete
the
department
you
have.
You
have
repairs
of
building
maintenance
and
grounds
for
13.5,
and
then
we
have
the
depreciation
expense,
so
we're
depreciation,
we're
depreciating
buildings,
we're
depreciating
equipment,
we're
depreciating
water
lines,
sewer
lines
and
we're
setting
up
three
million
for
depreciation.
Any
questions
here
on
on
the
final
operating
expenses
for
two.
A
B
B
A
B
B
A
You
so
councilman
and
some
of
the
newer
council
members,
and
maybe
some
of
the
residents
in
the
audience
too.
So
as
we're
going
through
these
budgets
going
back
and
forth,
adding
subtracting
some
of
it
is
just
questions
and
they
give
us
the
answers
and
we're
good.
But
some
of
it
is
changes.
You
know
we
add
was
prac
whatever
it
is.
At
the
end,
the
administration
will
put
a
final
budget
to
get
so
like
here.
A
If
you
look
at
mine
all
these
different
notes
and
scratches
and
chicken
scratch
and
whatever
you
want
to
call
it,
but
they'll
give
us
the
final
one,
with
cleaned
up
version
with
everything
we've
agreed
on
and
discussed
that
we
told
them.
We
want
change
like,
for
example,
director
conrad's
1.5
million
that
we
talked
about,
let's
just
bump,
that
or
keep
that
there
for
the
directors
and
engineers
once
they
give
us
the
final
one
that
will
be
in
there
and
you
won't
have
any
of
these.
A
P
A
So
that's
a
a
totally
new
format
from
the
format
that
was
previously
used
in
the
past
in
past
years,
and
because
of
that,
and
because
I,
like
total
transparency
through
residence
and
and
everybody,
I
want
to
make
sure
everybody
understands
everything
before
we
vote
on
it.
I
spoke
with
the
comptroller
and
he
agreed
that
he
will
go
through
those
one
at
a
time.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
I've
talked
to
him
again
today,
he's
pulling
some
together
for
us
that
will
clarify
that
resolution.
A
B
B
You
have
the
you:
have
water
sewer
supplies
that
are
used
out
in
the
field.
You
have
additional
street
repairs
contractual
services
for
625
thousand.
We
have
our
ecorse
creek,
o
m
costs
for
560
000,
there's
cso
retention,
basing
costs
273
thousand
water
purchases.
This
is
our
gliw
wholesale
number.
Glee
was
asking
for
4.150
million
dollars
for
for
22.23
the
sewage
disposal
charges.
B
This
would
be
wayne
county
in
dua,
we're
looking
for
7.550
million
and
that
will
be
increased
by
another
300
000,
as
we
discussed
back
in
on
april
20th.
So
the
final
number
will
be
7
million
eight
fifty
zero,
zero
zero
and
then,
as
we
come
down
to
the
final
emergency
repairs,
sewer
lining
repairs,
973.002
for
200
grand
any
questions
here
on
page
104.,
so
you're
paying
your
wholesale
costs
and
you're
paying
for
various
supplies
and
repair
supplies.
B
B
592-537-929.00,
come
across
you'll,
see
7
million,
550.,
okay
and
then
back
on
april.
The
20th
we
talked
about
how
do
is
do
increase
their
rate,
not
four
percent
but
eight
and
a
half
percent.
So
we
need
another
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
that
line
item
and
it's
gonna
run.
It's
gonna
run
us
the
final
number.
Will
there
will
be
seven
million
eight
fifty
zero
zero
zero.
Thank
you,
sir
you're
welcome
good
question
all
right.
Any
other
questions
on
page
104.
A
Also
one
more
thing
for
the
council
members
is,
the
controller
has
put
something
I
take
preliminary
look
at
it
put
something
together.
It's
really
really
nice
for
all
of
you
guys
as
council
members
that
clarifies
resolution.
So
I
I
thank
him
for
that,
and
you
guys
will
get
that
in
your
email
sometime
tomorrow
from
him
he's
just
making
some
final
changes
on
it.
It
will
clarify
the
resolution.
Ultimately,
the
resolution
is
the
main
thing
you're
going
to
be
improving.
B
B
C
I
E
G
B
You,
okay,
any
other
questions
on
page
105.:
okay,
we're
going
to
move
along
then
to
page
106.
Turning
the
page,
okay,
you're
going
to
have
the
water
tapping
and
install
section
of
the
city
city
of
the
city,
water,
sewer,
department,
okay,
here
you'll
have
salaries,
field
salaries
out
out
in
the
field:
892
415
dollars,
overtime,
155,
000,
the
fringes
associated
with
the
employees
325
for
hospital,
56
5634
for
life;
and
then,
of
course
you
have
your
social
security
and
employer
pension
contributions
for
339
000.
B
A
E
V
E
Well,
that's
what
I'm
saying
when
you
have
a
water
main
break
and
it's
on
the
other
pages.
Why
isn't
that
fixed,
then,
in
that
budget?
Why
do
we
have
to
have
two
budgets
to
fix
something
when
you're
right
there
that's
like
doing
preventative
maintenance,
I
got
a
bad
bearing
while
I'll
come
back
and
fix
it
later.
E
V
B
A
A
B
J
B
Now
this
is
the
study
we're
pulling
this
money
off
of
this
stud.
This
155
is
the
estimate
from
the
study
that
was
approved
by
council.
So
not
only
do
we
look
at
what
what
actually
is
happening
out
in
the
field
and
what
is
required,
but
we're
also
looking
at
that
study,
okay
and
we're
using
that
study
we
paid
for
that
study
we're
using
that
study.
So
all
that
is
factored
into
the
spending
plan.
Okay,.
B
Well,
we
can
use
this
councilman.
We
can
make
sure
that
we're
accounting
for
all
over
time
in
the
water
section
in
one
line
item
we
can
make
sure
that
that
happens.
What
should
be
happening
in
in
the
first
department
on
page
101?
You
should
just
be
seeing
over
time
for
administration,
so
those
three
individuals
that.
E
No,
but
I'm
just
talking
about
when
we
when
we
were
never
mind
it
just
you
know
we
get
a
lot
of
overtime
in
dpw
period,
okay
and
it's
a
lot
of
money
that
we're
paying
in
overtime.
But
to
me
your
your
you're
you're
you're,
taking
a
water,
tap
you're,
digging
a
hole
to
fix
a
water
main
break
and
then
you're.
A
C
I
B
B
The
other
issue
is
this
and
I
think
that
what
ends
up
happening
here
is
this
councilman.
When
I
put
the
study
together
in
march,
okay,
the
study,
the
plant
marine
study
had
just
gotten
done
in
the
budget.
Amendments
from
that
study
that
were
approved
by
council
had
not
been
put
into
this
report.
It's
just
a
it's
just
a
a
physical
physic
I
had
to
deliver
by
april.
The
7th
and
the
budget
amendments
were
entered
into
the
system
last
week.
I
B
B
I
B
B
I
just
know
that
the
first
department
is
the
is
the
administration
piece,
the
second,
this
is
the
water
guys,
I
don't
know
who's
water
and
then
the
last
one
we're
going
to
look
at
is
sewer
and
I
don't
know
who's
water
and
who's
sewer
bob,
and
I
we
can
get
that
information
to
you.
Please.
Thank
you.
You're.
A
B
B
Okay,
let's
move
on
we're
moving
on
to
the
end
of
the
department,
water,
meter,
reading
and
repair.
Here
you
have
a
meter,
meter
supplies,
meter,
repairs
and,
of
course
we
have
the
nine
million
dollars
of
the
bond
proceeds
for
the
water
meter
replacement
total
of
this
section:
nine
million
seven
thousand
five
hundred
dollars
any
questions
here
on
page
107.
A
Just
a
quick
question,
I
I
I
know
at
one
point:
I'm
not
sure
if
it
was
the
treasurer
or
who
was
at
one
point.
It
mentioned
that
the
9
million,
actually,
I
think
it
may
have
been
alid.
I
believe
the
nine
million
may
not
be
enough.
I'm
not
sure
who
mentioned
that
at
one
point,
whether
you
oh
dpm,
so
with
that
being
the
case
now,
I
know
that
was
probably
about
maybe
eight
ten
meetings
ago.
A
G
The
just
just
keep
in
mind
that
all
the
projects
that
made
up
the
bond
in
general
and
I'm
keeping
a
real
close
eye
on
that,
because
that
those
estimates
were
made
three
four
five
years
ago
and
they're
not
coming
through.
We
finished
just
finished
the
first
one
closed
out
the
l43,
so
I've
got
the
total
as
part
of
that
money
and
I've
got
the
total.
I
mean
complete
everything
and
then
now
we
started
the
second
project
and
the
third
will
be
the
water
meters,
so
we're
keeping
track.
G
I'm
keeping
track
of
all
these
numbers
to
see
how
we
come.
Give
you
an
example:
l42
that
you
just
approved
is
like
a
million
and
a
half
over,
but
over
the
estimate
1.8
approximately,
so
that
assume
that
we
in
two
years
we
get
zero
change
orders,
which
is
never
the
case.
So
we
are
over
budget.
Now
the
meter,
the
water
meters,
we've
got
some
rough
numbers.
We
haven't
bid
anything
we'll
be
coming
to
you
now
we're
in
the
product
selection
stage.
We
have
a
product
in
mind
and
we're
going
to
select.
G
So
that
will
be
the
meter
that
we
specify
in
order
to
go
out
to
start
replacing.
You
have
to
do
first,
the
research
to
find
out
what
you're
getting
you
have
to
specify
a
meter,
and
that
will
be
the
standard
going
forward
and
we
did
multiple
interviews
and
you
know,
studies
and
you
know,
try
to
select
the
proper
meter.
E
E
G
B
Okay,
any
other
question:
okay:
where
do
we
go?
Where
do
okay,
one
last
any
other
questions
at
107..
Thank
you
mariana.
Any
other
questions.
I
want
to
send
all
good
okay,
mr
getting
back
to
your
staffing
question.
Councilmember
muscat
robert's
telling
me
here
that,
when
the
guys
work
out
of
the
dpw,
they
could
either
work
out,
nobody's
nobody's
designated
water,
correct
and
nobody's
designated
sewer.
So
we
I
so
to
answer
your
question.
The
field
staff
is
all
being
charged
between
those
two
departments
as
they
work
on
water
or
as
they
work
on
sewer.
B
B
And
the
guys
go
out
and
the
guys
go
out
and
then
we'll
get
you
a
tap
we'll
get
you
tap
revenue,
but
that
should
answer
your
question.
Council
member,
all
right,
very
good.
Okay,
all
right!
Any
other
questions.
I
want
to
assess
all
right.
Moving
along
to
108..
Okay,
here
you
go.
This
is
sewer
okay.
This
is
sewer
and
sewer
maintenance.
B
What
you
have
here
is
salaries.
Sixteen
thousand
two,
six
hundred
twenty
five,
a
little
bit
of
overtime
here,
thirteen
seven
fifty
you're,
looking
at
fringe
benefits
and
employer
contributions;
totaling,
there's
six
grand
for
for
hospitalization
hundred
dollars
for
for
for
life,
fringe
benefits
for
employer
contribution,
pension
and
social
security.
Around
7
100,
sewer,
cleaning,
sewer,
lining
sewer,
cleaning,
400
000
sewer,
lining
sewer,
lining
repair,
865
000,
which
is
a
good
number
rep,
maintenance,
repairs
and
maintenance
on
equipment
5500,
and
we
have
a
we.
B
Think
so
for
yeah,
for
for
this
section,
yes,
there,
you
have
other
line
items
that
you'll
tie
into
and
then
the
last
item
capital
outlay,
a
street
sweeper
replacement,
297
530
for
a
total.
In
this
section,
one
point:
five,
six,
eight!
I'm
sorry
one
point,
six
one:
one
million
dollars
any
questions
here
on
page
108.,
councilman.
J
V
V
J
V
A
V
Mariana
said
she
did
give
her
the
microphone
so,
and
this
is
on
the
city
website.
Yes,
mariana
says
it's
on
the
website
and
basically
we
follow
the
trash
schedule,
so
we
do
sweep
whenever
you
know
those
areas
when
we're
on
trash
day,
but
we
can't
sweep
an
entire
trash
section,
so
I
mean
it
it
takes.
You
know.
A
Right
but
the
issue
was
to
put
on
there.
So
if
you
go,
if
the
garbage
day
was
on
on
wilson
on
wednesday
and
they
didn't
go
through
on
wednesday
after
you
don't
put
that
up,
but
if
they
went
through
the
the
street
sweepers
on
wednesday,
then
put
it
on
the
website
because
again,
a
lot
of
residents
think
you
don't
go
through
as
much,
and
I
presume
that
you
do.
L
J
We
just
him,
and
I
just
received
an
email
and
one-
I
believe
there
isn't
much
manpower
and
then
it's
extremely
expensive
as
well
to
take
somebody's
department
super
while
there's
other
things
that
are
happening.
Water
main
breaks
tree
trimming
maintenance,
whatever
the
case
may
be,
but
that
was
the
response
that
really
from
the
mayor
that
he
said
we're
trying
to
you
know
assessing
the
situation,
I'm
just
speaking
of
what
the
mayor
said
verbatim
he's
assessing
the
situation
and
we're
trying
to
look
for
a
solution
to
potentially
get
it.
J
A
J
A
Going
to
be
one
second,
we're
done
either
it's
done
every
week
or
every
two
weeks
or
once
a
month,
then
the
resident
will
know
once
a
month.
It's
done
no
matter
what
or
if
it's
not
done
that
consistently
with
some
sort
of
a
variable
as
far
as
when
it's
being
done,
then
at
least
it
should
be
disclosed
so
that
residents
don't
think
that
you'll
come
out
once
a
year
right.
That's
all.
V
I
I
V
That
that's
ongoing,
you
know
we're
in
the
process
of
doing
sewer,
lining
repairs
right
now,
so
you
know
we
assess
our
areas.
You
know
we
get
with
our
sewer
lining
contractor.
We
give
him
the
locations
that
we've
elected
to
do
the
sewer,
lining,
repairs
based
on
and
those
are
all
based
on
the
you
know,
sewer
inspection
and
in
jetting.
V
So
you
know
when
they're
in
there
jetting
and
and
doing
their
video
of
of
a
sewer
line,
they're
making
notes
and
then
we're
taking
those
notes
and
prioritizing
where
you
know
we
want
to
do
our
sewer
linings
to
you
know,
make
our
infrastructure
last
as
long
as
it
can,
you
know,
eliminate
you
know
future
problems
or
existing
problems
or
reoccurring
problems,
but
yeah.
So
you
know
we
look
at
that
and
that's
pretty
much
an
annual
thing
or
a
yearly
thing
that
we
will
budget
every
year.
V
V
Oh,
my
I
mean
we're
continuously
videoing,
you
know,
videoing,
look
looking
at
our
infrastructure,
you
know,
some
of
the
you
know
might
be
a
little
higher
this
year
because
of
the
floods,
and
we
did
some.
You
know
additional
cleaning,
because
this
is
also
cleaning
and
videoing.
So
you
know
I
can't
say
we
did
any
more
videoing
than
last
year,
but
we
we
definitely
did
more
cleaning
this
year
than
you
know.
We
did
the
previous
year.
J
V
V
You
know
so
we
get
in
there
and
we
can
line
you
know
a
section
of
pipe
and
make
it
last
for
another
20
or
30
years
or
or
you
know
longer,
you
know
we're
we're
saving
a
considerable
expense
in
the
future
of
having
to
go
through
and
and
with
an
excavator
and
remove
and
replace
a
line
that
you
know
we
couldn't
line.
So
I
mean
these
lining.
Projects
are
a
great
value
to
the
city
to
keep
their
their
sewer
infrastructure
up.
V
C
B
A
J
C
J
A
B
B
B
B
Q
B
I
A
Okay,
so
what
the
comptroller
is
referencing
there
is
going
to
be
a
public
hearing
on
may
the
17th,
it's
5
30
p.m.
That's
2022,
23
budget
public
hearing
and
it
will
be
a
final
budget
approval
on
the
24th
of
may
at
6,
00
pm.
That's
the
final
approval
by
us
right
and
then
the
resolution.
When
do
you
want
to.
B
B
A
Sentence
or
two
or
paragraph
clarifying
it
to
the
council
members,
I
would
I
look,
I'm
trying
to
stay
as
nice
as
possible
here
during
past
council
meetings.
I
had
the
vibe,
not
not
this
particular
body
previous
meetings,
I
had
the
vibe
that
some
council
members
just
approved
just
to
approve
because
they
had
no
idea
what
they
were
proving
and
that
scares
the
living
daylights
out
of
me
gotcha.
A
That's
why
I'd
rather
take
the
precautionary
route
and
have
you
go
over
it
in
just
plain
english
so
that
if
they
don't
understand,
we'll
ask
the
questions
right
there
and
then
now
you're,
taking
the
initiative
and
and
man
more
power
to
you,
that's
beautiful
what
you
showed
me
earlier
today,
which
is
a
crosswalk.
I
mean
you
put
some
notes
together
for
the
council
members
right.
I
loved
it,
because
at
the
end
of
the
day
is
what
I
mentioned
when
we
started
with
these
budget
meetings.
A
A
Started
well
then,
right,
and
so
that's
why
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
making
the
right
decisions
I'd
rather
make
sure
that
we're
making
the
right
decision
and
with
that,
okay,
before
we
go
to
the
next
thing.
Yes
glad
councilman,
you
have
another
thing.
Yes,
I
do
absolutely
no,
no,
no,
not
like
this!
No!
No!
No!
What
it
is
is
allowing
people
in
the
audience
and
on
zoom
to
ask
questions
if
they
have
questions.
A
T
Hi
sorry,
as
I
mentioned,
hr
has
been
extremely
busy.
She
is
one
person
who
is
also
managing
all
of
our
departments
here
and
trying
to
hire
all
of
those
open
positions,
so
she
has
asked
to
explain
the
personnel
pages
to
you
this
year
again
there
have
been
a
lot
of
changes
in
how
we're
presenting
things,
so
she
has
asked
to
do
a
presentation
for
the
council
as
she
goes
through
what
those
pages
are
going
to
say.
Okay,.
M
A
Yeah,
that's
the
public
hearing,
but
keep
in
mind
for
the
public.
Of
course,
we've
or
I've
allowed,
of
course,
public
hearing
at
every
budget
meeting
alone.
Just
like
we're
gonna
do
in
a
second
yeah.
It's
it's
people
have
had
opportunity,
but
still
they'll
be
able
to
come
in
and
talk
about
the
whole
thing
they
wanted.
C
A
H
H
H
Because
the
design
of
the
payment
by
the
bond
was
designed
to
use
the
aged
four
million
dollars
of
a
levitt
over
the
years
to
use
it
as
a
first
payment,
just
make
sure
that
everybody
knows
that,
and
the
the
taxpayers
know
that
those
are
their
taxes.
They
are
not
coming
from
nowhere.
They
paid
that
in
the
past
have.