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From YouTube: Dearborn Heights Study Session 9/24/19
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Dearborn Heights Study Session taking place Tuesday, September 24th 2019 regarding the Recreation Master Plan.
A
B
So
this
evening,
I've
reached
out
to
three
of
the
eight
bids
for
recreation
master
plan
and
they've.
Graciously
graciously
showed
up
to
give
us
kind
of
a
brief
description
on
how
they
would
approach
our
master
plan
and
go
from
there.
So
I
would
like
to
invite
whoever
would
like
to
start.
We
kind
of
like
to
start
first
I
kind
of
give
their
approach
to
our
master
plan.
Please
come
on
up.
D
Good
evening,
council
members
and
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
present
tonight
on
our
proposal
for
Parks
and
Recreation
partnership.
My
name
is
Laura
I'm,
a
senior
principal
planner
with
McKenna
and
the
designated
project
director
for
the
Dearborn
Heights
park
and
recreation
master
plan
joining
me
this
evening
is
Natalie
bond.
She
is
designated
as
the
project
manager
in
the
proposal.
Natalie
and
I
thoroughly
enjoy
working
on
Park
and
Recreation
plans
across
the
state
of
Michigan.
D
In
fact,
natalie
is
actually
going
to
be
accepting
an
award
tomorrow
at
the
Michigan
Association
of
planning.
For
her
work
in
sustainability
planning
in
a
shitemo
townships,
Park
and
Rec
plan
for
last
year
in
West,
Michigan
and
as
outlined
in
our
proposal,
our
approach
consists
of
six
key
action,
steps
that
will
satisfy
the
M
DNR
guidelines.
D
This
includes
seven
meetings,
one
day
of
focus
groups
and
of
those
seven
meetings.
Three
are
open
public
meetings,
as
we
know
from
our
vast
experience
and
park
and
recreation
planning
and
other
communities.
M
DNR
does
prefer
to
see
the
public
engaged
component
exceeded.
This
is
a
critical
piece
for
the
state
and
we
have
outlined
on
page
19
of
our
proposal.
Some
additional
options
for
public
engagement.
Should
the
city
be
interested.
That
includes
a
community-wide
survey
and
a
Dearborn
Heights
field
day.
D
We've
experienced
a
lot
of
success
by
going
out
into
the
community,
whether
it
be
at
a
farmers
market
or
an
event
in
the
in
the
park
and
going
to
the
public
and
getting
their
feedback
rather
than
asking
them
to
participate
in
a
standard
meeting
at
City
Hall
and
we're
happy
to
discuss
any
aspects
of
the
proposal
this
evening
and
if
you
have
questions
we're
happy
to
answer
them.
Thank
you
again.
A
E
Just
want
to
clarify
for
yourselves
and
I
think
for
the
others
that
we'll
be
presenting
tonight.
We
don't
have
the
plans
that
you
guys
have
I
know
you
sent
it
to
the
recreation
director,
but
as
a
council,
we've
not
had
a
chance
to
receive
and
we'll
review
them.
So
if
you
don't
mind,
if
you
could
give
us
like
at
least
an
abbreviation
of
what's
in
the
plan
that
was
emailed
or
sent
to
the
recreation
director
sure.
D
F
D
Also
mention
that
the
the
city
of
Southfield
plan
that's
circulating
with
you
tonight
that
included
a
capital
improvement
plan,
we're
seeing
more
and
more
of
that
intertwined
with
Park
and
Recreation
planning,
so
not
just
a
action
plan,
but
a
targeted
capital
improvement
plan
to
really
guide
the
city's
budget
moving
forward.
That's
something
that
we
implement
in
our
plans
and
develop
quite
thoroughly
so.
E
E
What's
your
vision
for
duble
Heights,
specifically
as
far
as
what
you
plan
on
doing
and
then
the
second
question
to
follow
up
question
that
I
have
is
why
would
we
select
you
without
obviously
having
to
talk
about
somebody
else,
but
why
yourselves
and
not
somebody
else
so
basically,
I
mean
obviously
clearly
at
this
point
we're
interviewing
three
people,
so
one
of
you
guys
is
gonna,
be
selected,
guys,
gals,
etc.
So
with
that
in
mind,
why
would
we
select
you
and
not?
Somebody
else
sell
me
on
this.
Basically,
what
I'm
saying
well.
D
Without
going
through,
the
public
engagement
component,
first
I
think
we're
really
seeing
across
Michigan
and
the
nation
that
Parks
and
Rec
are
an
integral
part
of
quality
of
life
and
really
the
foundation
for
the
neighborhood,
and
you
have
amazing
amenities
here,
especially
with
Hines
Park
I
mean
that
is
a
jewel
of
the
region
and
so
being
able
to
link
to
that
and
really
capitalize
on
the
assets
that
you
have
would
be.
You
know
the
cornerstone
going
forward.
D
D
G
B
G
My
follow-up
question
is
my
concern
from
polling
and
working
with
our
youth.
Is
our
youth
leaves
our
community?
They
go
elsewhere,
as
you
know,
agree,
okay,
so
that
piece,
and
that
component
needs
to
be
improved
on
to
give
families
reason
to
recreative
and
not
go
elsewhere.
That
needs
to
be
evaluated.
What
I'd
like
to
hear
from
all
of
who
the
three
were
interviewing
you
are
talking
to
tonight
is
I
want
to
hear
your
success
story
in
particularly
a
accessibility,
because
that's
a
concern.
Okay,
that
includes
parks
and
playgrounds.
G
G
Not
I
guess
since
you're
at
the
podium
you
you
you're
familiar,
you
talked
about
assets,
Warren
Valley,
Golf
Course
is
a
newly
acquired
I
think
we
can
do
more
with
it.
I'd
like
to
hear
some
ideas,
I'm
in
particular,
with
placemaking
and
bringing
all
the
stakeholders
to
the
table.
That
includes
your
public
schools,
your
organization's,
your
neighborhood
groups.
G
D
Raised
a
wonderful
point:
Park
and
Recreation
Planning
is
meant
to
be
an
inclusive
process
from
young
young
toddlers
at
the
playground.
All
the
way
to
seniors
parks
generate
not
just
recreation
but
improvements
to
mental
health,
sense
of
community
social
gathering.
You
know,
there's
a
there's
a
wide
range
of
benefits
from
having
quality
parks
in
our
system.
G
Can
you
talk
a
little
bit
about
Warren,
Valley,
Golf
Course
for
us,
because
I
know
like
when
I
think
about
it?
I
have
a
vision.
I'm
sure
everybody
at
this
table
has
some
vision
for
it,
as
well
as
members
of
our
community
and
I
fully
agree.
We
need
to
have
more
citizen
engagement,
the
focus
groups,
the
workgroups
could
again
all
of
our
community
members
you're
all
stakeholders.
This
is
your
community.
These
are
your
parts,
including
that
Golf
Course,
so
I'd
like
to.
Can
you
elaborate
for
us
a
little
bit
because
it's
been
now?
G
F
B
B
Well,
I
did
meet
with
Eric
over
there
last
week
or
two
weeks
ago,
I'm
not
sure
exactly
when,
but
we
did
go
through
some.
The
main
focuses
the
improvement
of
the
facility
first
from
the
banquet
in
clubhouse
facilities
to
the
actual
golf
course
and
things
that
need
to
be
improved.
So
that's
probably
the
top
of
the
list.
First
Eric's
gonna
be
compiling
a
the
priority
list
of
what
needs
to
be
done
and
with
estimated
costs
and
he's
supposed
to
be
getting
that
to
me
as
soon
as
he
gets
it
all
completed.
B
So
with
that
being
said,
that's
our
first
step.
There
is
assessing
the
problems,
I
guess
you
can
say
the
things
that
need
to
be
fixed
and
it
upgrading
that
stuff
first
and
then
from
there
on
I,
would
like
to
see
more
banquets
there
more
things
for
the
community.
A
lot
of
different
things
can
be
done
there.
So
I
think
it's
a
it's
a
blank
slate
and
we
can
try
everything
and
we
don't
know
until
we
try
to
see
if
it
works
and.
C
You
through
the
chair,
it's
become
apparent
to
me
and
it's
not
something
that
I
grew
up
with,
but
I'm,
starting
to
recognize
that
a
lot
of
young
people
are
into
these
games
for
lack
of
a
better
word
and
that
this
is
taking
off.
In
fact,
Ohio
State
University
is
considering
it's
almost
like
a
varsity
sport,
an
and
two
employees
in
Dearborn
Heights,
their
kids
are
into
these
conventions
or
whatever
you
want
to
call
them
that
meets
and
they
compete
and
scoring
on
these
games.
C
D
Say
that
in
other
communities,
we've
had
success
in
creating
place
making
spaces
where
youth
can
gather
in
an
area
and
use
their
mobile
devices,
and
even
though
they
may
still
be
engaged
with
their
device
individually
collectively
they
are
together
in
a
shared
space
and
then
that
fosters
a
sense
of
community
I.
Think.
C
H
You
and
thank
you
for
coming
tonight
a
couple
questions
number
one
activities
for
our
young
people.
Our
north
end
of
our
city
particularly,
is
more
and
more
landlocked
and
fewer
and
fewer
areas
available
for
for
parks.
There's
a
lot
of
expansion
of
businesses
on
Ford
Road,
a
lot
of
expansion
of
businesses
on
Warren,
where
the
soccer
fields
that
I
used
to
use
when
I
coach
soccer
over
at
we're.
Now
the
there's
an
Athletic
Center
are
no
longer
available.
H
D
We'd
certainly
need
to
do
an
analysis
of
the
park
land
available
and
the
amenities
in
those
parks
to
kind
of
determine
the
classification
of
the
parks
and
their
service
radii,
but
we're
also
seeing
is
that
individuals
need
a
park
within
ten
minutes,
a
walk
from
their
home,
and
that
is
one
of
the
analysis
that
we
would
perform
as
part
of
this
master
plan.
Okay,
thank
you.
H
D
H
A
J
Counsel,
my
name
is
Steve
Zetas
landscape,
architect,
with
recent
vandenbrink
police
in
vandenbrink
engineering.
We
have
office
in
Farmington
Hills
I'm
out
of
our
Grand
Rapids
office,
because
the
project
manager
would
be
working
on
this
as
representing
a
client
over
on
the
other
side
of
the
state
at
grant
meeting
tonight,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
like
to
look
at
as
a
recreation
plan.
The
five-year
plan
is
a
is
a
tool
that
the
DNR
requires
the
community
to
have
in
order
to
become
eligible
for
grants.
J
No,
the
DNI,
our
state
mission
has
got
some
really
incredible:
opportunities
for
acquisition
and
improvement
grants
under
the
understanding
that
you've
got
a
couple
of
projects
in
a
city
right
now
that
maybe
Grant
eligible
and
one
of
the
requirements
before
state
monies
can
be
allocated.
Any
local
governments
is
a
plan
on
file
with
the
DNR.
I
J
Are
you
talking
about
grant
programs
yeah
there's
a
couple
in
the
process
right
now?
Oh
yeah
I'm,
not
sure
what
you've
gotten
underway
right
now
at
this
moment,
I
think
there
was
a
roofing
issue
or
something
that
I,
but
the
grant
programs
that
the
DNR
administers
with
our
property
acquisition
they've
got
passport
grants
for
that
could
include
maintenance.
There's.
J
We've
done
a
lot
of
plans,
I
mean
dozens
I,
don't
want
to
say
hundreds
because
I
might
be
exaggerating,
but
the
one
commonality
in
these
plans
is
that
when
a
community
has
this
plan,
it's
it's
the
product
of
a
lot
of
input.
A
lot
of
community
engagement
stakeholders
like
to
have
say
we
can
come
up
with
questionnaires.
We
can
can't
do
barefoot
meeting
and
find
out
what
the
community
wants.
J
Now,
once
we
have
these
meetings
and
talk
about
the
wants
and
the
goals
and
the
dreams,
we
like
to
go
out
and
see
what
the
community
has
sometimes
they'll
be
doing
that
simultaneously,
but
we
don't
want
to
throw
a
blanket
on
anybody's
wishes.
But
when
we
get
down
to
the
you
know
the
brass
tacks
and
start
looking
at
the
analysis
of
what
the
community
wants,
what
they
have.
J
What
some
of
the
national
and
state
standards
are
for
recreation
facilities,
for
instance,
if
somebody
wants
shuffleboard
courts
and
27
people
want
shuffleboard
courts
and
we
do
an
inventory
and
you
find
you've
already
got
72
shuffleboard
courts,
we're
not
gonna
put
truffles
or
courts
as
one
of
the
action
items.
We
might
want
to
look
at
how
we
can
publicize
these
shuffleboard
courts
a
little
bit
more
and
that
can
be
an
action
item
in
the
plan.
J
So
once
we
get
into
the
plan
and
we
look
at
what
the
community
wants,
what
they
have,
it
can
set
some
goals
and
that's
where
the
DNR
starts
to
look
at
this
plan
and
they
actually
use
it
to
justify
grant
requests.
For
instance,
we've
put
together
a
plan
for
lakeshore
community
and
they
in
that
plan
they
decided
they
wanted
to
have
a
way
to
get
boats
into
the
downtown
yeah.
Anybody
can
put
it
in
a
marina,
but
there's
no
backs
at
the
end
of
the
Main
Street.
J
So
one
of
the
items
we
put
in
our
action
plan
or
our
our
goals
and
I
think
section
was
called
action
plan
was
to
us
in
the
community
of
Saugatuck,
calls
an
objection
to
recommend
actions
and
rationale.
Capital
improvement
schedule
was
a
small
dock
at
the
end
of
Main
Street.
So
when
we
had
the
opportunity
we
put
a
grant
into
the
state
they
loved
it
and
we
got
whatever
the
money
was
to
build
this
dock
downtown
and
we
had
you,
know
ribbon-cutting,
and
there
were
people
waiting
to
get
on
their
boat
200.
J
It
was
great
and
we
look
at
these.
You
know
why
we're
doing
this.
The
DNR
has
a
huge
staff
of
people
in
Lansing
whose
job
is
to
give
away
money.
Now
a
lot
of
this
money
has
been
amassed
through
natural
resources
leases
you
back
in
1988,
we
voted
on
the
Natural,
Resource
trust
fund
and
a
portion
of
all
natural
resource
extraction.
Forestry
that
happens
on
state
lands.
Part
of
that
profit
has
to
go
into
this
pool
for
the
national
side
of
the
state
trust
fund.
That
money
is
ours
to
use
on
recreation
opportunities.
J
There's
other
programs
that
come
out
of
no
state
park,
admission
fees
and
whatever
and
there's
these
people
in
Lansing
who
I've
worked
with
for
years.
They
exist
to
distribute
that
communities
that
have
a
justifiable
need
a
plan,
an
idea
it's
like.
If
our
kid
comes
up
to
us
said
dad
I
want
50
bucks
for.
J
Know
I
think
it'd
give
me
a
good
idea:
I'll
give
them
50
bucks,
maybe,
but
if
they
just
want
50
bucks
to
go
well
we're
not
going
to
give
it
to
them.
So
when
we
look
at
the
recreation
plan
as
a
tool,
it
meets
their
estate
requirements
and
we
can
use
it
to
back
up
our
requests
to
enhance
what
we
have
and
we've
already
decided
what
we
want
to
do
to
an
adze
it
through
the
community
engagement
through
all
the
steps
that
we've
talked
about.
J
That's
kind
of
like
the
non
touchy-feely
reason
that
we
do
these
plans
plans
can
and
are
a
living,
breathing
document
that
document
where
the
community
wants
to
be
and
where
they
are,
what
they
have
and
how
to
get
there.
He
asked
us
to
update
him
every
five
years,
because
things
change
goals,
change
who
would
have
thought
pickleball
was
going
to
be
a
thing
20
years
ago,
we're
commuting
the
tennis
courts
all
over
the
state
into
pickleball
courts
that
that's
a
that's
a
hot-button
item.
Look
at
these
grant!
Applications.
J
Excuse
me
if
I
keep
on
going
back
to
the
grants,
but
that's
where
the
leverage
really
exists
on
these
things:
green
infrastructure,
that's
a
plus!
You
get
points
for
that.
A
grant
application,
universal
access,
ATA
accessibility,
not
only
is
that
the
law
it
gets
just
smart
and
the
more
universally
the
less
universally
accessible
that
a
site
is
built
into
the
less
apt
it
is
to
you
know,
get
a
high
score
on
a
grant.
So
those
are
the
kind
of
reasons
about
why
a
grant
I'm.
Sorry
why
a
plan
is
a
necessary
tool.
J
We've
done
a
lot
of
these
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
grants
for
our
communities
and
the
reason
that
I
should
do
this
rather
than
in
his
other
people.
In
this
room
between
1976
I
live
in
this
city,
graduated
for
pres,
with
high
school
used
to
hang
out
at
camp
field.
In
the
parking
lot
used
to
you
know:
ice
skating,
you
know
when
their
towers
we
had
the
Rockets
and
this
over
here
the
fan
help
park
I
think
even
before
his
van
out
part
Municipal.
That's.
J
E
I
got
a
question
so
give
me
some
of
the
successful
cities.
They've
done
a
master
plan
and
when
I
say
success,
I
mean
in
terms
of
a
city
being
successful,
successful
master
plans,
they've
done
in
cities
near
else
here,
your
company
has
okay.
The
second
question
is:
that's
I,
think
I
think
I
think
it's
a
plus,
but
it
won't
be
the
main
determining
factor.
So
with
that
being
the
case,
I
ask
you
the
same
question:
I
asked
somebody
else
why
you
and
not
the
to
other
companies,
why
you're
a
company
specifically?
J
Our
company
specifically
well
we've
got
a
really
real
depth
of
experience
in
coming
up
with
these
plans.
Most
of
our
work
is
through
mid-michigan.
We've
done
some
work
and
Royal
Oak
that
hasn't
made
it
to
our
plan,
but
that's
more
of
an
implementation
and
a
goals.
I'm.
Sorry,
a
grant
situation
that
we're
working
on
there's
a
sub
consultant.
We've
had
some
extremely
good
success
with
Caledonia,
Township
and
Caledonia
village.
Those
are
over
between
Grand
Rapids
and
Kalamazoo.
We've
gotten
them
I.
J
Think
three
updates
on
their
plan
and
several
grants
to
port
an
engineer
record
in
those
communities.
Communities
the
one
I
was
referring
to
earlier
with
the
group
with
the
dock,
was
one
I've
got
here
and
I'll
leave
a
copy
with
you.
This
is
one
we
submitted
with
our
RFP
city
Saugatuck.
We
have
had
a
heck
of
a
lot
of
experience
and
luck
in
securing
grants
for
that
commute
and
what.
J
C
J
A
landscape
architect
with
a
firm
we've,
got
three
Landscape
Architects
and
a
few
engineers
that
work
in
our
enhancement
group
and
our
job
is
to
go
to
our
municipal
clients
and
try
to
get
new
municipal
clients
and
give
them
a
little
bit
more
than
water
sewer
roadwork.
You
know
really
Blatch
into
some
of
the
other
amenities
that
communities
comprise
the
residents
and.
J
J
If
we
have
I
will
email
Brian
that,
but
in
my
featured
experience
here
for
Rick,
none
I
did
some
for
Rochester
many
years
ago,
when
I
was
working
in
Farmington
Hills
right
out
of
college
Rochester,
Hills
and
Rochester
did
a
joint
plan
years
ago,
but
that
wasn't
policing
vandenbrink
all
right
all
right.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank.
I
J
J
No,
we
need
to
get
matching
funds
and
there's
ways
to
play
that
out
with
you
know,
I've
gotten
acquisition
grants
on
an
old
sand
mine-
and
this
was
a
fun
deal,
because
our
client
was
a
Sandman
company
and
they
had
this
land
that
they
say
in
mind
and
they
couldn't
sell
it.
The
community
wanted
a
place
to
build
some
soccer
fields
and
some
baseball
fields,
but
they
couldn't
afford
it.
J
So
at
that
point
our
client
was
able
to
get
tax
benefit
by
giving
this
land
to
the
city,
and
the
city
was
able
to
count
the
assessed
value
of
that
land
as
the
match.
So
the
city
got
the
land
no
money
out
of
their
pocket.
Our
client
got
rid
of
a
piece
of
land
that
was
no
use
to
them
and
a
tax
burden,
and
we
got
an
acquisition
grant
to
do
that.
That
wasn't
shady.
That
was
haulage.
It
that's
that's
the
kind
of
neat
leverage
that
can
be
used
at
that
state
level.
J
Can
buy
land
for
recreational
purposes?
You
can
develop
land
as
a
recreation
land
that
you
already
own.
You
can
also
update.
There's
certain
grants
not
that
trust
fund,
but
believe
it's
a
passport
grant.
It
can
be
used
for
maintenance
and
repaving
tennis
courts,
putting
lights
and
baseball
field
security,
access,
type
things
so
councilman.
C
If
I
might
and
if
all
you
might
need
to
be
aware,
this
has
come
up
a
couple
times.
It
may
be.
Let
me
refresh
everybody's
memory,
I
think
we're
very
close
to
getting
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
to
put
a
retention
Basin
at
the
old
incinerator
site
and
one
of
the
things
that
I've
constantly
talked
with
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
is
that
after
the
retention
site
is
built,
it
would
not
support
a
building
or
anything
like
that.
C
A
soccer
field,
some
bleachers,
if
but
I,
think
that
I
always
felt
that
with
this
five-year
plan
and
building
that
into
the
plan,
that
would
be
the
time
to
make
an
application
for
these
grants
and
we're
getting
near.
So
it's
important
that
that
be
in
the
plan
and
our
intention
as
a
city
to
want
to
develop
that
recreational
I
I'm
not
gonna,
dictate
us
what
that
should
be,
but
I
think
that
we
need
to
all,
as
a
community,
see
what
it
is
that
we
would
like
over
there
and
development.
C
J
We
talk
about
some
of
those
plans
and
the
goals
and
objectives
we
like
to
leave
them
open-ended
specific
enough.
So
if
we
get
an
opportunity
in
the
next
five
years
to
develop
a
vacant
site
or
former
industrial
site
into
a
recreational
use,
we
have
it
in
the
plan.
You
don't
have
to
say
we
want
to
use
parcel
number
three
and
have
17
acres
of
soccer
fields,
but
we
say
if
we
have,
the
community
is
able
to
purchase
some
vacant.
J
F
J
Stockbridge
one
is
a
restroom
pavilion
in
a
city
in
the
middle
of
Michigan,
near
Lansing,
Saranac
and
there's
one
up
north
point,
betsie
recreation
grant
that
actually
just
kicked
off
a
couple
weeks
ago,
so
we're
very
successful
in
getting
grants.
That's
you
know
from
a
landscape,
architect's
standpoint,
that's
where
the
good
stuff
is
when
the
rubber
meets
the
road
and
we
could
have
projects
and
go
and
see
people
using
recreative
at
these
projects.
That's
that's
why
we
do
this.
Okay,.
F
A
K
Hi,
it's
nice
to
see
you
all
again.
I'm
chip,
Smith
from
Wade
trim,
it's
nice
to
be
here
talking
to
you
about
something
other
than
a
rezoning
application,
or
something
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
give
a
very
brief
presentation
on
how
we
would
go
about
this
plan
and
I'll
save
it.
You
know
we're
a
little
bit
I
approach
this
a
little
bit
differently
and
for
those
of
you
in
the
audience
who
might
not
know
I
also
serve
as
the
city's
Planning
consultant.
Wade
trim
has
been
the
city's
engineer
for
decades.
K
I
think
you
know
so.
I
come
at
this
through
my
own
lens,
as
all
of
the
the
firms
do
and
I
would
say
that
as
I
look
at
the
scope
of
work
that
we
put
forward,
I
think
I
want
to
stress
kind
of
three
different,
three
different
pieces.
You
know
number
one
and
we
haven't
talked
about
this
very
much,
but
talking
about
programming
is
such
a
key
part
of
a
recreation
plan,
but
particularly
of
a
park
and
recreation
plan
for
this
city
for
landlocked
cities
that
often
face
financial
challenges.
K
K
The
second
part,
I
would
stress
you
know
the
we
want
to
focus
on
is
the
engagement
piece
of
this
and
and
I
know.
We've
got.
You
know
five
meetings
in
there,
but
I
really
think
that
too
get
a
broad
input
in
Dearborn
Heights.
We
need
to
go
to
the
different
parts
of
the
city
to
have
these
recreation
Commission
meetings
so
that
they're
easy
for
families
to
come
to
that
they're
easy
for
seniors
to
come
to
and
we're
gonna
come
to
your
neighborhood
and
we're
gonna.
Do
a
commission
meeting
there
and
we're
gonna?
K
K
You
know
and
I
think
all
of
us
and
I'll
speak
for
my
colleagues
in
the
profession
that
we
all
have
experience
going
after
trust
fund
grants.
You
know
we've
all
written
a
bunch
of
park
and
recreation
master
plans,
that's
kind
of
a
standard
thing
that
all
of
us
do,
and
one
of
the
things
that
that
I
am
always
cautious
about
is
I.
K
Don't
want
us
to
narrow
our
focus,
just
one
set
of
grants
or
one
funding
pot
I
think
you
know
whether
we're
talking
about
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers,
whether
we're
talking
about
the
County
Water
Resources
Commission.
There
are
all
sorts
of
different
opportunities
that
we
need
to
be
creative
and
exploring
I.
Think
one
of
the
issues
that
that
I,
look
at
and
and
our
firm
brings
I
think
perhaps
more
intimate
knowledge
of
it
is
some
of
the
flood
control
work.
That's
been
going
on
and
it's
being
proposed
to
to
look
at.
K
How
can
we
tie
those
activities
to
recreational
opportunities?
How
can
we
tap
into
those
much
larger
sources
of
federal
dollars
to
you
know
maybe
get
a
pocket
park
in
a
neighborhood?
That's
mostly,
you
know
green
infrastructure,
but
still
provides
a
neighborhood
recreational
facility.
You
know
I
think
I
also
bring
to
this
process.
You
know
my
lenses
I
believe
that
everybody
needs
to
have
a
park
or
recreational
opportunity
within
a
10-minute
walk
of
their
house.
You
know
I,
think
that
that
is.
K
That
is
something
that
we
owe
to
our
community
to
do
that
and
I
think
you
know
being
creative
and
how
you
do.
That
is
important,
so
we've
done
a
bunch
of
different
Park
and
Recreation
plans
for
a
bunch
of
different
communities,
and
you
know
in
the
last
five
years
we've
worked
doing
these
things
for
clients
all
over
the
metro
area.
You
know
we
did
one
in
Sterling
Heights
and
the
key
part
of
that
is.
K
They
actually
went
out
and
did
a
bond
issue
for
a
new
Recreation
Center,
and
that
was
the
centerpiece
of
that
recreation
plan,
because
that's
what
we
heard
was
the
important
missing
piece
there,
but
there
was
also
a
non
motorized
transportation
component
of
it.
I
think
a
good,
analogous
kind
of
community
is
city
of
Pontiac,
which
you
know
we
did
there
Parks
and
Rec
plan
back
in
2013-2014.
K
You
know
when
they
were
in
receivership,
so
they
didn't
have
any
money
to
take
care
of
any
of
their
parks
and-
and
it
wasn't
about
necessarily
hey-
you
know,
we're
gonna,
add
facilities,
we're
gonna,
add
programming.
It
was
looking
at
opportunities
to
connect
the
parks
through
the
transportation
system.
Non
motorized
transportation,
bike
trails
and
look
at
transportation
funding
as
a
mechanism
to
try
and
realize
some
of
that
you
know
so
so.
K
You
know
solvent
local
government
anywhere
in
the
state,
and
so
we
have
to
be
very
creative
and
how
we
go
about
some
of
this,
and
some
of
this
is
looking
out
to
the
community
frankly
to
understand
where
their
opportunities
to
do
some
of
these
things.
You
know
you
might
hear.
Oh
well,
you
know
that
houses
has
been
vacant
for
10
years.
It's
a
code
enforcement
problem.
Maybe
that
gets
torn
down.
Maybe
that
does
become
a
neighborhood
pocket
part.
Maybe
that
ties
into
a
flood
control
project
or
a
green
infrastructure
project.
K
I
think
some
of
this
really
gets
sussed
out
in
that
community.
Engagement,
piece
and
I.
Think
that
that's
why
going
to
every
part
of
the
city
during
these
Commission
meetings
is
really
important
so
that
that
we
show
this
isn't
come
here
and
tell
us
we're
gonna
come
to
you
and
figure
out
on
the
ground.
If
they're,
a
group
of
people
say
come
look
at
this,
you
know
you
can
go
out
and
look
at
it.
The
recreation
Commission
can
go
out
and
look
at
it
and
ultimately
I
think
it
informs
choices.
K
E
You're
pretty
familiar
with
our
city,
obviously
having
worked
with
the
Planning
Commission
when
I
have
you
and
also
other
work
that
your
company's
done
with
our
city?
This
is
my
personal.
Just
my
personal
belief,
I
think
our
city
right
now,
there's
there's
a
lot
of
a
level
cities
around
here.
You
know,
as
far
as
a
recreation
plan
I
think
we're
like
an
O,
B,
C
range.
Okay,
I,
don't
think
we're
fail,
you're
Louisville,
because
I
go
to
different
cities
and
we
definitely
have
a.
E
We
have
more
parks
in
a
lot
of
the
cities
around
here,
but
being
that
you're
very
familiar
with
our
particular
city,
give
me
you
give
me
an
idea.
Some
ideas
of
what
things
you
have
planned,
I
mean
I,
know
you're
very
promote
the
golf
course
of
course,
and
I'm
very
remote,
canfield
cetera
et
cetera.
Give
me
some
other
ideas
that
you
think
and
I
know
you
haven't
done
your
research,
but
some
of
the
ideas
that
you
have
planned
for
our
city
or
at
least
possibilities,
and
also
at
the
same
question.
E
K
Yeah,
of
course,
I'm
gonna
lected
official
I
should
be
able
to
do
anyway.
You
know,
but
I
think
you
know
I
think
all
of
us
are
hesitant
to
say
hey.
These
are
our
plans
because
all
of
us,
you
know
we're
all
practice.
Practitioners
we're
all
professionals.
We
don't
want
to
come
in
and
impose
a
vision
on
people,
but
I.
K
Think
one
of
the
things
that
I
look
at
is
a
real
opportunity
that
maybe
we're
not
looking
at
as
enough
of
an
opportunity
or
some
of
the
flood
control
projects
that
we've
been
talking
about
and
to
figure
out
how
recreation
can
be
built
into
something
that
you
really
have
to
do
anyway.
You
know
how
can
we
do
a
lot
with
one
thing
that
you're
gonna
be
forced
to
do
so?
K
K
K
You
know,
I,
think
that
the
reason
that
we've
been
here
as
long
as
we
have
is
because
we
do
feel
very
much
a
part
of
your
team
very
much
feel
a
part
of
the
community
I
feel
that
the
relationships
that
we've
built
here
over
the
years
are
important
and
valuable
and
I
think
that
this
is
the
time
where,
where
those
relationships
you
use
those
to
get
out
into
the
community
to
get
the
better
input.
So
that's
that's
why
I
would
would
select
weight,
trim,
Thank,
You,
Councilwoman.
G
Hicks
Clayton
I,
just
want
to
you
know,
stress
the
importance
of
recreation
and
moving
into
the
next
five
years,
because
that
really
it's
not
an
essential
service,
but
it's
vital
to
quality
of
life
for
people
and
that's
why
I
fully
have
always
supported
recreation
by
the
way,
because
I
see
the
impact
and
heard
it
from
the
lips
of
one
of
our
residents
in
2011
that
I'll
never
forget.
So
with
that
being
said,
I
appreciate
your
attention
to
the
88
ability
as
well.
As
you
mentioned,
green
infrastructure.
G
G
We
need
to
go
to
them
and
engage
them
and
develop
a
community
based
vision,
moving
forward
for
the
next
five
years,
but
in
particular
whoever
is
selected
the
leveraging
of
like
your
Wayne
County
millage
monies
for
these
trust
grants
and
other
grants,
because
when
we
did
not
mention
swapna
Park
and
we
should
have,
we
talked
about
Warren
Valley,
which
is
important.
It's
swapped
apart
we
met
with
those
folks,
they
told
us
what
we
were
eligible
for,
but
now
we
have
an
expired
plan.
G
We
need
to
get
this
up
to
speed,
so
I
can
appreciate
that
the
only
thing
that
I
did
not
hear
was
a
branding
plan
and
I
think
that's
gonna,
be
important.
Part
of
your
recreation
is
branding
the
community
and
I
see
this
across
the
state
already,
where
communities
have
they've
taken
their
name
and
just
branded
its
you
know.
Is
it
something
distinct
about
it?
No
Inc
stars
got
their
mill
and
who
you
know
some
places.
Port
Huron
has
something
else
so
again.
G
If
we
can
wrap
that
into
that,
that's
important
to
the
success
of
our
community
and
then
that's
what
I
want
to
share
with.
You
is
recreation
chemists,
do
have
any
recommendation
commissioners
here
this
evening,
because
I
imagine
they're
part
of
this
conversation
as
they
should
be.
Okay,
alright,
because
I
think
that's
really
important
to
include
them,
because
they're
gonna
have
to
be
part
of
this
before
it
comes
to
us.
Thank.
F
K
You
know
I
probably
should
have
done
more
homework
and
looked
up
all
the
grants
that
we've
applied
for
over
the
years
and
given
you
kind
of
a
scorecard
I,
can
tell
you
the
last
Park
and
Recreation
plan
that
we
finished
was
for
Harrison
Township
in
Macomb
County.
They
they
were
awarded
a
grant
and
I
apologize
for
not
being
able
to
you
the
the
size
of
the
award
or
what
the
project
was,
but
but
we
did
prepare
that
for
them.
K
I
think
that
that
is,
as
I
mentioned,
everybody
that
does
Park
and
Recreation
planning
has
you
know,
experience
writing
the
DNR
grants.
I
think
you
know
what
we
bring.
The
table
is
a
little
bit
different
in
that
you
know
we're
looking
beyond
just
the
conventional
DNR
standard
recreation
grants
at
other
opportunities
and
I
think
that
that's
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
we
have
always
brought
to
the
table
is
you
know,
kind
of
that
broad
set
of
services
that
that
includes
the
ability
to
go
after
anything,
that
would
would
come
up.
F
D
D
Wealth
of
experience
in
grant
applications
and
successful
grant
applications.
There
is
an
example
in
the
proposal
about
the
village
of
fire
well,
where
we
received
over
or
the
village
received
through
our
grant
application
over
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
state
funding.
We
to
look
at
not
just
state
em,
DNR
funding,
but
also
foundations
and
other
private
entities.
D
F
G
G
F
G
F
I
G
A
I
Us
more
one
song,
a
quick
statement
here:
I
hope
we
who
are
we
pick
takes
into
consideration
the
school
district,
the
recreation
assets
that
they
have.
We
don't
want
to
be
redundant
and
two
blocks
away,
have
something
there
and
also
our
biggest
probably
one-time
investment.
The
city's
ever
made
the
warrant
value
golf
course.
It's
always
Oh
at
the
end
of
mean,
oh
yeah.
What
about
the
warrant?
Valley,
Golf
Course!
This
is
something
that's
a
big
investment.
I
We
need
to
really
utilize
that
it's
it's
untapped
resource
and
it's
been
months
and
months
we've
been
asking
for
a
monthly
update
on
this
morning.
Golfers
I
haven't
gotten
anything
I,
don't
if
anybody
else
has
I,
don't
know
whose
responsibility
Recreation
Department's
responsibility
to
give
us
an
update.
Now
how
things
are
going
financially
structurally,
you
know
everything
I
mean
we're
sitting
here.
We
don't
know
anything
about
it.
You
mentioned
banquets
I
was
told
that
they're
booked
solid
on
banquets.
I
I
A
You
I'd
like
to
make
a
statement
to
all
so
growing
up
in
Durban,
Heights
I
played
a
what
was
the
former
municipal
park,
which
has
now
been
renamed
Van
Hooten,
the
neighborhood
I
grew
up
and
had
small
lots
and
it
still
does
the
park
is
somewhere.
I
went
to
go
play
socialize
and
I
have
son
some
of
my
fondest
memories
in
the
neighborhood
park.
Our
Park
Recreation
plan
is
very
important
for
our
community
and
I'm
glad
that
we
got
a
plan
in
order
now
we're
going
to
be
working
on
this
because
we
do
need
it.
E
Had
liked
all
three
organizations
that
did
a
pretty
good
job,
but
I
can
tell
you
my
personal
opinion
and
I'm
very
blunt
I
think
the
Recreation
Department's
a
hole
has
failed.
Our
city
I
think
they've
done
an
okay
job,
but
but
my
level
of
is
excellence,
and
you
know
what
I
want
you
guys
all
to
try
to
focus
on
is
an
excellence
like
right
now.
The
recreation
recreation
has
changed
obviously
over
the
years,
and
we
gotta
make
sure
that
you
guys
have
a
proposal.
E
That's
changed
with
it,
but
it's
got
to
be
something
that
you
know.
When
residents
come
in
to
move
into
our
area,
they
ask
about
the
schools,
they
ask
about
the
safety,
and
then
they
ask
about
the
type
of
rec
programs
that
we've
got
here
and
if
we're
gonna
continue
to
have
just
generic
programs,
that's
not
gonna,
be
enough,
so
I'm
gonna
be
looking
for
something
very
innovative
and
that
blends
in
with
with
the
type
you
know
with
the
residents
that
we
have
in
our
great
city.
Thank
you.
Thank.