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From YouTube: Dearborn Heights Study Session - 4/5/22
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The Dearborn Heights Study Session regarding the Planning Commission Ordinance taking place Tuesday, April 5th 2022 at Riverside Middle School and via Zoom.
A
B
So
I
sent
out
a
a
letter
by
email,
along
with
a
proposed
ordinance,
and
I
just
want
to
highlight
a
few
things
without
stating
everything
over.
First
of
all,
the
task
that
I
was
given
was
to
try
to
prepare
an
ordinance
that
put
things
back
the
way
they
were
prior
to
the
2007
ordinance
and
that
2007
ordinance
was
h0701.
B
You
could
just
sit
there
and
say
well
what
changed
when
that
went
in
and
what
went
away
it's
just
basically
everything
went
and
then
you
were
supposed
to
try
to
figure
out
what
was
in
there,
and
so
I
tried
to
do
that.
But
that
was
complicated
further,
because
there
was
no
clear
notion
of
what
other
things
were
done.
So,
for
example,
I
haven't
changed
things.
I
don't
know.
B
If
my
recollection
is
that
the
city
council
did
not
normally
do
public
hearings
on
anything
having
to
do
with
special
land
uses,
and
you
know
other
types
of
public
hearings,
but
not
for
special
land
uses.
B
So
you
have
some
complications
here.
So
if
someone
says
or
if
councilman
wenzel,
for
example,
who
I
believe
was
on
planning
commission
for
some
time
says
well,
we
used
to
do
this.
I
wouldn't
doubt
that
that
was
possible.
It's
just
that
there's
not
any
sort
of
good
way
to
put
it
back
together
after
you've
ended
up
having
major
changes
in
everything,
and
so
I
focused
on
the
thing
that
I
think
led
to
the
impetus
for
this
proposal,
which
was
special
land
use
approvals
and
that's
what
the
focus
is
here.
B
That
starts
on
the
first
page
of
the
ordinance
and
goes
on
to
the
second
page
of
the
ordinance
changes
it
from
special
use
approval
under
paragraph
three
in
parentheses,
to
special
use
review
and
then
with
respect
to
section
36512,
and
you
did
not
get
one
of
these
from
what
was
sent
to
you
by
the
clerk's
office.
Because
you
know
to
for
me
to
find
all
this
stuff.
B
B
We've
done
the
initial
leg
work
on
this
now
we're
going
to
send
it
over
to
you
and
then
adds
in
a
paragraph
4
in
parentheses,
city
council,
final
action
adds
in
a
bunch
of
paragraphs
following
that
and
then
ends
up
also
having
on
the
next
page,
on
the
fourth
page,
paragraph
six,
which
says
recording
of
planning
commission
in
city
council
action,
because
essentially,
when
you
end
up
having
this
kind
of
decision
being
made,
it's
really
not
a
political
decision.
B
B
I
don't
want
to
steal
his
thunder
because
he
he
he.
He
will
definitely
say
this,
but
I
wanted
to
point
out
just
some
things
because
I
had
spoken
to,
for
example,
mark
roberts
about
this
and
how
we
got
to
this
point
in
terms
of
the
change,
and
I
was
handling
a
lot
of
things
with
city
council
meetings
at
that
time,
and
I
remember
some
discussion
about
this
in
terms
of
time
being
taken
at
city
council
meetings.
B
However,
I
did
not
change
things
to
have
public
hearings
all
handled
at
city
council
meetings,
because
that
would
end
up
making
council
meetings
even
longer,
and
my
sense
was
that
that
would
not
be
what
was
intended.
It's
more
a
matter
of
the
decision
being
made,
but
the
main
thing
that
mr
roberts
noted
was
the
time
in
the
process
to
get
city
approvals.
B
B
So
that
was
part
of
what.
What
the
what
the
issue
was,
that
mr
roberts
remembered
coming
up
as
being
the
impetus
for
this,
and
if
you
look
at
some
of
like
the
ordinance
book
thereafter,
what
you
see
is
that
there
are
a
few
things
that
were
changed
to
try
to
streamline
processes
to
make
them
faster,
just
in
general,
particularly
with
regard
to
some
developments,
and
I
mean
that,
just
in
a
general
sense
not
with
respect
to
necessarily
h0701,
but
even
some
things
that
were
done
after
the
fact.
B
And
one
of
the
other
issues
is
you.
You
need
to
remember
that
these
again
are
more
administrative
legal
decisions,
subject
to
legal
challenge,
and
some
people
might
think
that
an
elected
body
that
might
say
look
we're
subject
to
people
coming
up
and
and
challenging
us
is
going
to
potentially
not
just
follow
the
legal
standards.
B
But
when
you
look
at
how
these
things
are
supposed
to
be
decided,
namely
special
special
land
uses
are
supposed
to
be
decided.
Section.
36513
sets
forth
the
standards
for
granting
special
land
use
approval
and
it
sets
forth
basically
nine
factors
and
essentially,
if
you
end
up
having
a
challenge,
you
better
be
able
to
go
through
and
justify
the
decision
that's
made.
Based
on
each
of
those
nine
factors,
you
can't
say
well,
someone
came
in
with
a
petition
for
400
or
500
people
who
oppose
this
change.
B
That's
not
going
to
mean
anything
to
a
circuit
court
judge
and
you
might
find
yourself
on
the
end
of
a
very
costly
lawsuit,
not
just
in
terms
of
fees
and
things
along
those
lines.
You
might
find
yourself
in
terms
of
a
very
costly
lawsuit
in
terms
of
someone
saying
you're,
depriving
them
of
their
rights
to
use
their
property
and
they're
going
to
sue
you
in
a
federal
civil
rights.
B
Constitutional
claim
lawsuit.
So
that
was
some
of
the
thinking
in
terms
of
why
the
changes
were
made.
Some
of
the
things
that
you
may
want
to
look
at
in
in
terms
of
your
discussions-
and
it
also
I've
also
laid
out
specifically
the
changes
that
I
was
able
to
find
again.
The
process
would
be
if
your
honorable
body
wanted
to
go
forward
with
this,
then
you
would
refer
this
proposed
ordinance
over
to
the
planning
commission.
The
planning
commission
would
end
up
reviewing
it
coming
up
with
things
and
that,
frankly,
might
be
a
good
idea.
B
B
We
can't
just
publish
it
on
the
website,
because
the
zoning
enabling
act
basically
has
specific
requirements
and
even
under
our
charter,
it
makes
reference
to
the
idea
that
if
we
have
to
put
something
in
a
paper,
we
have
to
put
something
on
paper.
We
still
put
it
on
the
city's
website,
but
we
have
to
do
both.
So
I
have
nothing
further.
So
any
questions.
C
Going
back
to
you
know,
city
council,
having
the
last
decisions
and
everything
I
think
the
the
the
mr
roberts
saying
the
time
involved.
I
think
that's
very
mute
to
me,
because
planning
commission
meets
once
a
month.
They
meet
the
week
before
city
council
meeting.
C
C
B
If,
if
I
may,
I
think
that
it's
actually
significantly
more
than
that-
I
mean
you
know
in
in
my
experience.
It
is
you
do
the
application,
then
you
do
the
application.
You
have
to
end
up
dealing
with
the
planning
consultant.
They
have
to
make
sure
that
they've
done
the
application
and
everything
correctly
then
after
it
ends
up
being
put
in,
then
you
have
to
publish
for
a
public
hearing.
B
Then
you
end
up
having
the
public
hearing.
Then
after
you
end
up
having
the
public
hearing
you're
going
to
need
to
end
up
having
recommendations
being
made,
then
those
are
going
to
have
to
be
conveyed
with.
Essentially
what
your
record
is
to
the
city
council,
then
the
city
council
is
going
to
and
that's
not
instantaneous,
that's
not
like.
C
It
sounds
like
one
week,
but
what
I'm
saying
is
is
the
planning
commission
meets
once
a
month?
They
do
all
their
due
diligence,
no
matter
how
long
it
takes
them
with
the
public
hearings,
the
whole
nine
yards
once
they
get
all
that
done.
It
comes
to
city
council
and
it's
going
to
be
just
a
week.
D
A
So
technically
they
won't
be
able
to
get
on
the
next
council
meeting,
because
that
means
city
is
closed
friday,
which
means
the
clerk's
office
closed
on
friday,
which
means
it
won't
be
at
the
next
council
meeting.
It'll
be
the
reading
after
that,
which
would
be
about
two
weeks
later,
just
side
note.
But
but
what
he's
referencing
is
I'm
sorry,
but.
C
C
Between
john
daly
and
inkster
road,
none
of
that
came
before
city
council
at
all
right.
No
one
knew
nothing
was
going
on
special
land
use.
What
was
that.
C
B
Well,
here's
the
thing
I
don't
know
if
rick
watland
is
on.
I
would.
I
would
hope
that
he
that
he
would
be.
I
think
he
can
address
the
time
frames,
because
I
know
even
just
getting
the
minutes
to
you
might
take
weeks.
B
They
actually
do
you
know
they
don't
do
minutes
that
are
just
motion
made
seconded
all
in
favor,
you
know
or
who,
who
voted
or
a
recorded
vote.
They
actually
do
so
and
so
said
this
so-and-so
said
this
so-and-so
said
this,
so
it
is
not
a
it's
not
a
one-week
process,
and
I
think
that
you
know
mr
watland
would
probably
be
able
to
address
that
because,
even
for
example,
this
rezoning
that
was
done
at
the
last
meeting
that
that
your
honorable
body
ended
up
approving
and
the
recommendation
was
to
approve
from
the
planning
commission.
B
E
E
C
E
C
You
can
have
all
the
business
councilmen
you're,
always
doing
this
about
businesses,
opening
or
not
opening
right.
But
when
you
have
problems
like
we
do
at
the
starbucks
right
now
and
places
like
the
dairy
queen
and
now
we
have
the
people,
the
your
constituents,
calling
you
up
and
yelling
at
you
and
yelling
at
me.
I
don't
want
to
be
yelled
at
for
somebody
making
a
decision
down
that
someplace
else.
E
D
D
G
G
C
C
A
That's
up
to
them
to
have
their
way.
I
think
you
got
a
little
confused
right
there
rick.
So
if,
if
the
planning
commission
approved
you
guys
meet
on
thursdays,
correct
right,
okay,
so
let's
use
a
hypothetical
they
met
last
thursday
and
they
proved
company
x
to
open
up
okay.
When
could
it
eventually
come
in
front
of
us?
How
long
will
it
take.
G
A
So
you're
saying,
okay,
so
you're,
saying
okay,
so
you're
talking
about
the
planning
commissions
have
to
have
to
approve
the
minutes
before
you
can
bring
them
to
us.
Okay,
so
then
that's
easily
a
month
or
five
weeks,
and
then
after
that,
okay,
two
weeks
and
then
after
that,
it's
got
to
be
at
a
time
that
we
have
a
council
meeting
to
be
able
to
approve
it
or
not,
approve
it.
H
B
Actually,
I
want
to
ask
him
a
question.
I
want
to
ask
him:
how
long
do
the
minutes
normally
take
to
prepare,
because
my
impression
is
that
again,
you
are
used
to
the
minutes
being
done
by
the
clerk's
office.
The
minutes
being
done
by
the
clerk's
office
are
a
lot
different,
especially
when
it
comes
to
special
land
use.
You've
got
everything
that
everyone
is
saying
at
least
being
paraphrased
and
I'm
under
the
impression
that
this
takes
longer,
I
mean:
is
it
at
least
a
month
rick
or
is
it
I
mean
how.
G
C
G
F
G
F
I
J
J
Well,
just
echo
what
the
councilor
miyaki
says
and
I
understand
ray
musket's
point
and
let's
take
the
dairy
queen
or
starbucks.
It's
the
responsibility.
First
of
those
businesses
to
either
get
the
proper
stacking
lanes
and
or
or
the
city
writes
them
a
ticket
and
they
can't
do
business
but
to
to
try
to
make
the
city
council
the
arbitrator
of
every
business
while
they
come
to
us
and
then
that's
not
how
the
system
is
designed.
The
system.
J
To
have
the
experts,
do
let's
say
not,
let's
say
a
zoning
change
or
something
have
the
experts,
the
planners,
the
people
with
expertise.
Look
at
it
and
then
make
a
recommendation
doesn't
mean
we
don't.
We
still
have
the
final
say,
but
we
don't
want
to
get
where
it's
all
political.
J
So
someone
says:
oh,
you
didn't,
okay,
that
hamburger
shop
on
ford
road
because
you
own
the
other
hamburger
shop
or
something
it's
like
it's
exactly
like
you
say
it's
designed
so
that
there's
specific
criteria
that
has
to
be
met
that
has
to
be
looked
at.
B
But
the
time
that's
involved
to
end
up
putting
together
the
minutes
is
not
inconsiderable.
I
mean
that
that
I
think,
is
one
of
the
one
of
the
issues
that
is
being
potentially
I
mean
it's
not
going
to
be
like.
It
sounds
like
it's
going
to
be
at
least
two
months
between
the
time
that
the
planning
commission
does
something,
and
the
city
council
would
do
something.
A
We
just
received
the
planning
commission
minutes
for
september
and
october
just
a
couple
days
ago.
Sure
right
so.
C
A
I
Yeah
I
was
on
the
impression
that
they
still
recorded
them,
but
I
guess
that
was
proof,
because
when
I
was
on
the
planning
commission
there
was
a
secretary
there
that
she'd
say:
okay,
wait
a
minute.
Let
me
get
the
tape
going,
she
had
actually
a
little
tape
player
and
she
recorded
the
message
and
I
and
I
thought
that
the
last
planning
commission
me
and
I
was
at
they
did
record
them,
so
they
are
recorded
already.
I
Units,
you
know
and
a
lot
of
issues
with
the
applicants
when
they
say
it
takes
so
long
and
they
have
to
come
back
and
it's
their
own
fault.
They
they
don't
they're,
not
prepared
properly.
Just
a
brief
preview
review
of
what
happens.
Annapolis
can
come
in
and
I
want
to
I'm
going
to
open
up
a
7-eleven
or
something
I
present
the
plants
and
our
consultant
engineer
goes
over
to
plans
and
they
kind
of
get
back
and
say:
hey
you
gotta
do
this
or
this
or
that
and
to
get
them
ready
for
planning
commission.
I
Sometimes
they
don't
get
everything
they
have,
and
then
they
get
all
up
in
arms
if
they
they
they
came
unprepared
and
they
have
to
come
back
to
zoning
or
they
have
to
come
back
for
another
meeting.
They
have
to
pay
this
money.
So
a
lot
of
it
falls
on
the
applicants.
The
the
time
delay
until
the
planning
commission
has
the
opportunity
to
approve
something
or
deny
it.
Okay,
gary
then
councilman.
I
B
And
I
was
just
going
to
point
out
one
other
thing
in
terms
of
this:
you
have
to
realize
sometimes
with
land
use
issues
you
can
have
multiple
issues
going
on.
You
go
to
the
planning
commission.
You
have
a
site
plan
review
they're,
going
to
they're,
going
to
end
up
approving
that,
but
then
they're
going
to
end
up
also
having
to
do
a
special
land
use,
but
then
there
might
be
a
condition
that
requires
a
variance
from
the
zba
and
all
of
these
things
kind
of
overlap
in
terms
of
time.
B
I'm
not
saying
that
it
could
not
be
done
faster
than
five
months.
I
mean
one
of
the
things
when
it
came
to
this
this.
The
zoning
change
is,
I
was
looking
at
it
and
I
was
like
why
is
this
here.
This
was
from
september
and
then
I
was
like
okay
well,
yeah,
I'm
gonna
make
sure
I
get
this
thing
done
for
sure,
so
that
it's
out
for
the
next
meeting,
because
if
I
was
the
business
owner,
I
would
be
really
rather
kind
of
ticked
off
that
I
had
waited
that
long.
B
So
you
know
so
some
of
these
things
are,
as
councilman
wenzel
has
pointed
out.
Yeah.
Sometimes
these
applicants
come
in.
They
don't
really
have
a
site
plan.
You
know,
that's
that's
adequate
and
or
they're.
B
You
know
they're
architected,
something
that
was
inadequate
and
should
have
known
better
and
then
that's
their
fault,
but
some
of
these
things
are
based
on
just
it
takes
time
to
work
through
some
of
the
elements
of
of
this
and
again
mr
watlin
would
probably
be
in
a
better
position
to
address
that
and
again
I'm
not
taking
any
position
with
respect
to
this.
I
just
prepared
this.
B
C
Ahead,
he
can
go
ahead
and
you
know
we're
talking
about
five
months:
it's
taking
five
months
and
they're
going
to
get
up
and
go
to
another
city.
Well,
obviously,
we
must
have
to
look
at
that
other
city
if
they're
going
to
get
something
done
in
two
months
and
figure
out
a
way
why
we're
not
streamlining
our
projects,
so
you
know
this
to
me.
This
time
frame
thing
is
mind-boggling
to
me.
If
other
cities
can
do
this
in
a
timely
fashion,
why
can't
dearborn
knights?
Is
it
because
we've
always
done
it
this
way?
A
And
for
the
purpose
of
the
general
audience
rick,
if
you
don't
mind,
I'm
familiar
with
it,
but
just
for
the
general
audience
what
is
considered
a
special
land
use
specifically.
G
E
Councilman,
you
had
a
question
yeah,
so
I
just
you
know
like
I
was
stating
earlier
and
I'm
just
going
to
tell
you
guys
from
my
experience.
I
wanted
to
go
in
front
of
planning
and
rick.
Tell
me
if
I'm
wrong,
I
wanted
to
go
in
front
of
planning.
Commission
I
requested
to
go
in
front
of
planning
commission.
There
was
no
planning
commission
that
month
and
then
it
became
the
holidays
and
then
so
I
didn't
have
it
wasn't
able
to
go.
E
It
was
the
weirdest
experience,
so
I'm
gonna
be
honest
and
I
and
I
was
on
council.
I
think
vince
was
on
there
by
the
way-
and
I
said
to
myself:
okay,
perfect.
We
got
on
there
and
and
then
I
called
rick
after
I
said
rick
well,
what's
gonna
happen?
Well,
you
can't
have
another.
You
know
it's
not
gonna
be
in
front
of
council
until
you
know
they
approve
the
minutes
and
every
month
I
called
rick
guys
I
was
I'm
not
gonna
lie
to
you
at
one
point.
E
I
said
I
don't
even
want
to
do
this
anymore
and
I'm
not
I'm
not
saying
I'm
not
even,
but
I
also
want
you
to
know
that
it's
not
a
city
council
issue,
it's
not
a
rick
williams,
because
rick
does
a
great
job.
I
think
it's
more
of
the
planning
commission
how
it's
designed,
but
you
have
to
also
keep
in
mind
that
if,
if
business
x
doesn't
show
up
the
next
month
and
then
we
don't
have
any
new
business
to
approve,
those
minutes
are
not
being
approved.
A
Well,
the
broken
system,
but
there's
also
another
additional
issue
that
I
want
to
point
out
now
actually
is
a
realtor,
so
somebody
purchases
a
building
and
they
put
on
there
what
they
call
due
diligence.
So
they'll
pull
like
you
know:
somebody's
buying,
building,
x
and
they'll
buy
with
condition
that
they
want
to
make
sure,
obviously
they're
going
to
be
approved
for
opening
up.
Oh,
let's
use
it
a
basketball
court
type
of
place
right,
okay,
so
but
then
there's
gonna
be
due
diligence.
E
A
A
H
K
A
A
A
They
wouldn't
have
been
able
to
do
like
if
you
if
rick
is
saying
there
was
nothing
for
the
planning
commission
to
vote
on.
Therefore
they
didn't
do
a
meeting,
but
the
problem
is:
if
somebody's
trying
to
open
up
a
business,
not
delays
of
another
additional
30
or
60
days.
Can
they
do
like
a
special
zoom
meeting
during
that
particular
month
or
no.
B
The
the
body
has
to
actually
meet
just
like
all
of
you
have
to
be.
They
have
to
be
in
person.
You
have
to
end
up
the
the
the
people
who
are
making
the
decision
have
to
meet
in
person.
That's
why
your
procedures
are
the
way
they
are
for
our
type
of
hybrid
meeting.
Members
of
the
council
have
to
be
present.
C
D
G
Sent
out
the
original
just
just
the
first
time,
but
that
that's
where
I'm
saying
is
the
next
time
to
do
just
his
mit.
You
know,
like
mr
bae
dunes
minutes
just
to
have
them
meet.
It
would
cost
us
around
sixteen
hundred
dollars.
C
A
B
Said
yeah
two
two
points
on
that.
You
also
have
a
planning
consultant
and
sometimes
these
minute
issues
can
end
up
being
really
important,
particularly
if
you're
not
sure
what's
in
in
there.
So,
for
example,
this
last
thing
at
on
ford
road,
there
was
a
question
that
was
posed
to
me
about
whether
or
not
mr
caledrakas
should
be
present
for
that
meeting,
and
I
said
yes,
he
should
be
present
for
that
meeting,
because
if
the
minutes
aren't
right,
it
can
make
a
difference.
B
If
someone
wants
to
end
up
challenging
the
decision,
we
need
to
make
sure
that
the
minutes
are
being
reviewed
by
the
lawyer
and
if
there's
going
to
be
some
change
proposed,
then
you
need
to
have
the
planning
consultant
there
as
well.
So
you've
got
professional
staff
that
are
going
to
be
at
that
meeting
and
need
to
be
at
that
meeting
regardless.
C
F
B
Yeah,
but
it
it
you
do
but
notice
how
many
kind
of
audibles
that
I
end
up
running
for
you
from
where
I'm
sitting
with
regard
to
motions
and
things
along
those
lines.
Something's
broken
okay,
but
but
there
is
one
other
point:
if
I
could,
there
was
a
question
about
what
is
a
special
land
use
and
I
just
want
to
quickly
read
section
3651
about
intent.
Special
land
uses
the
procedures
and
standards
in
this
section
are
intended
to
provide
a
consistent
and
uniform
method
for
review
of
proposed
plans
for
special
land
uses.
B
This
section
contains
standards
for
review
of
each
special
land
use
proposal
individually
on
its
own
merits,
to
determine
if
it
is
an
appropriate
use
for
the
district
and
a
specific
location
where
it
is
proposed.
So
that's
what
a
special
land
use
is.
It's
not
quite
something
that
fits
into
the
particular
district
and
that
needs
to
be
looked
at
more
closely
to
make
sure
there's
a
fit
for
that
particular
parcel
in
that
particular
project
in
that
type
of
district.
Okay,
thank
you.
Councilman
glenn.
J
J
What
takes
the
time
is,
is
it's
just
like
you
say,
let's
call
them
the
the
developer,
getting
everything
in
and
then,
if
in
other
cities,
if
I
want
to
be
on
the
planning
commission
agenda,
if
I
get
my
stuff
in,
if
I'm
the
only
thing
on
there,
they
have
the
meeting,
assuming
everyone
can
be
there
and
I'll
give
you
an
example
is
when
they
do
is
in
city
of
dearborn.
L
L
F
Question
for
mr
allen,
how
many
special
use
do
we
have
a
year
like
two?
Do
we
get
a
year
any
idea,
like
probably
three
or
four
three
or
four
a
year.
G
Yep,
but
you
know
just
just
for
hit
ray's
answer-
is
we've
already
sped
that
up?
Because
now
every
person
that
comes
in
we
set
them
up
with
weight
trim
so
the
first
time
that
they
go
to
the
planning
commission?
We
know
that
everything
is
on
that
plan,
so
it
tries
not
to
go
to
the
second
third
forward.
So
that's
to
speed
it
up.
A
H
H
H
E
A
H
A
J
A
Come
on
okay,
but
at
the
same
time
keep
in
mind
even
at
the
500
dollars.
I
personally
hear
it
from
a
lot
of
people
that
apply
for
these.
That's
ridiculous,
they're
going
to
pay
500
for
something
that's
even
a
maybe
so
what
you
don't
want
to
do
is
discourage
businesses
from
opening
up.
Just
before
this
we
had
the
you
know,
van
borne
overlay,
and
what
I
want,
what
you
want.
A
H
A
G
G
A
I
don't
know
if
you
heard
him:
okay,
good
anybody
else
in
the
audience.
Okay,
anybody
stand
anybody
on
zoom,
nobody
on
zoom
all
right
hearing,
nothing
else,
the
next
step.
If
you
don't
mind
gary
just
give
us
the
next
step.
Is
it
just
voting
on
this
at
a
council
meeting
or
what
is
the
next
step?
Yeah.
B
The
next
step
would
be
to
bring
this
back
to
the
council
at
a
meeting
and
either
vote
that
you
want
to
refer
the
proposed
ordinance
to
the
planning
commission
for
review
or
to
vote
that
you
don't.
F
F
B
A
C
Yeah,
absolutely
I
want
to
follow
the
rules,
just
have
it
sent
to
them
and
then
we'll
go
for
it.
B
If
you're
going
to
end
up
referring
it
over,
it
should
be
done
with
the
idea
that
ultimately
you're
going
to
intend
to
approve
whatever
it
is
that
ultimately
ends
up
being
done.
I
mean
my
sense
would
be
just
having
sending
it
over
to
them
just
kind
of
like
a
review.
The
idea
is,
you
know
you
send
it
over
with
review
with
the
idea
that
ultimately
you're
intending
to
approve
the
ordinance
once
it
ends
up
so
out
of.
A
B
A
Full
disclosure-
it
wasn't
me
anyways,
councilman,
b
dune
and
councilman
wenzel.
E
E
B
Let's,
let's
talk
about
in
terms
of
it
certainly
can
be
looked
into.
My
recommendation
would
be
it
would
be
someone
who
deals
with
multiple
communities.
Maybe
our
planning
consultant
ends
up
dealing
with
multiple
communities
and
could
say
look.
This
is
what
they
do
in
canton.
This
is
what
they
do
in
dearborn
heights.
This
is
what
they
do
in
westland,
and
then
you
potentially
have
someone
who's
already
knowledgeable
about
those
issues.
B
I
Yeah
nothing
to
do
with
this,
but
I
just
wanted
to
acknowledge
that
today
is
national
library
workers
day
and
last
big
big
shout
out
to
all
of
our
library
workers
in
denver
heights
keep
up
the
good
work.
A
J
J
Right
sinclair
shows
the
city
after
the
microphone
is
a
city
of
equal
size
that
we're
often
compared
with
because.