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From YouTube: Dearborn Heights Study Session: 10-2-18
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The Study Session regarding budget review taking place on Tuesday, October 2nd 2018.
A
B
A
C
So
my
proposal
on
the
table
to
have
some
reductions
of
different
salaries
of
different
department,
heads
I,
believe
probably
one
of
the
best
ways
to
do
it
since
we're
doing
a
study
sessions
to
go
through
these
one
at
a
time
and
whoever
the
council
person
that
has
a
proposal
to
reduce
these
specifically
one
salary
at
a
time
the
wise
that
we
should
be
reducing
each
salary.
This
particular
amount,
because
these
are
salaries
that
we
gave
an
increase
to
I,
feel
strongly
personally
against
us,
and
in
my
reasoning,
is
we
gave
them
raises.
C
I
know
you
guys
said
there
was
some
stuff
that
was
found
out
later,
but
we
gave
them
raises
based
on
the
fact
is
for
how
long
they
had
been
here,
the
job
that
they
had
been
doing
and
I
think
the
city
and
a
certain
administration
overall
is
doing
a
pretty
good
job.
Is
it
perfect?
No,
it's
not,
but
no
City
is
perfect,
but
we
gave
a
lot
of
these
different
department
heads
a
raise
of
7520.
One
side
depends
on
what
that
particular
amount
is
because
they
had.
C
Some
of
them
had
taken
a
pay
cut
way
back
when
and
then
now
we
came
back
and
then
took
it
right
back
off
the
table.
I
talked
about
this
before,
but
I'll
repeat
it
again,
for
the
morale
good
and
the
end
result
is
exactly
what
we
thought
would
happen.
We've
got
four
multitude
of
reasons,
but
we've
got
the
emergency
manager
right
now
retiring,
the
former
I'm
sorry
Robert,
the
former
emergency
manager,
we've
got
the
building
and
engineering
department
has
decided
to
retire.
C
We've
got
the
recreation
department
has
decided
to
retire,
we've
got
the
DPW
has
decided
to
retire.
When
you
take
six
positions,
six
department
heads
and
you
lose
four
of
them
in
any
city
in
any
business
in
any
entity.
It
is
just
not
good
business.
What's
gonna
happen
now,
you're
gonna
go
back
out
and
try
to
recruit
people
to
try
to
get
them
a
higher
end
and
they're.
Not
gonna.
I
can
tell
you
myself
personally
I
go
into
a
company
and
I
see
that
four
out
of
the
six
have
already
left
within
a
10
day
period.
C
Who's
gonna
want
to
work
there
and
not
to
mention
at
a
reduced
cup
based
on
and
I
went
through.
All
this
Wayne
County
salary
of
surveys
and
I
could
show
you,
city
by
city
and
I,
noticed
on
a
lot
of
them.
We
were
either
below
or
right
around
and
maybe
out
a
couple
were
a
little
bit
above,
so
it's
gonna
be
hard
to
be
able
to
retain
and
hire
new
people.
C
So
with
that's
my
personal
opinion
with
that
being
the
case
since
this
proposal
was
put
on
the
table,
convinced
me
and
I'm
gonna
open
mind
about
everything,
one
at
a
time
why
those
salaries
should
be
cut
like
that,
because
we
gave
it
to
them
and
now
we're
taking
it
back.
Thank
you,
madam
chair
consequent,.
B
Costume
respectfully
so
for
some
of
these
I
know,
the
issue
was
some
of
the
positions.
The
issue
was
that
the
department
head
was
receiving
both
their
pay,
and
you
know
they're
sort
of
in
the
drop
that
they
were
receiving
those
retirements,
while
all
those
people
are
retired
or
or
going
to
retire
and
for
our
ordinance
director.
B
That's
not
the
case,
so
I
would
like
to
at
least
have
some
discussion
about
how
these
you
know.
Reductions
were
were
arrived
and
so
I
know.
For
example,
the
there
was
going
to
be
a
third
position
in
the
fire
department
and
Councilwoman
Lisa
Hicks
Clayton
was
concerned
about
that
being
in
the
cuts,
and
so
that
was
taken
out
but,
for
example,
the
investigative
services
secretary
position.
B
F
F
F
We
were
never
showed
this
and
we
were
told
that
nobody
got
the
letter,
but
yet
there
was
a
citizen
that
came
up
two
weeks
before
we
were
told
nobody
had
the
letter
had
a
letter.
How
does
a
citizen
have
a
letter
and
we
don't
I
did
not
have?
How
did
the
citizen
get
the
letter?
Mr.
Merrit
question,
who
is
a
citizen
boy.
E
G
F
A
F
E
E
Madam
sheriff
of
my
manacle
health
cities
are
now
having
to
under
state
law
that
was
passed
deal
with
unfunded
liabilities.
This
is
not
unique
to
Dearborn.
Heights
and
people
are
overreacting
to
this,
and
we
will
come
up
with
a
plan
to
address
it
and
it's
fortunate
that
our
pension
is
beyond
the
state
requirements
and
we'll
be
able
to
manage
this,
as
other
communities
will
be
faced
with
the
same
situation,
and
that
number
was
provided
to
all
the
council
members
and
was
in
last
year's
budget.
E
B
B
Financial
situation
is
what
it
is:
the
requirements
of
the
state
of
Michigan
have
changed
the
accounting
requirements
and
certain
liabilities
have
to
now
be
reported,
some
of
it
based
on
the
city
of
Detroit
bankruptcy.
But
how
would
power
these
positions
arrived
at
these?
What
wire
the
cuts
to
these
particular
positions.
D
My
wine
so
well
I'd
know
for
a
fact.
The
fire
firefighters
position
was
taken
out
of
there
because
of
the
the
grant
that
was
awarded
to
the
fire
department
paid
for
that
position.
For
my
understanding
we
have
a
bridge,
and
it
was
mentioned
also
about
the
Parks
and
Recreation
position
and
the
building
department
position.
I
think
we,
you
know
we
have
two
very
eligible
candidates
and
Kym
constants
for
to
take
on
the
position,
the
parks
and
recreation
and
in
Rick
Whiteland
for
the
building
departments.
D
E
Out
councilmen
that,
for
instance,
let's
look
at
Rick's
position
in
the
building
department,
he
would
take
a
significant
pay
decrease
with
what
is
now
the
building
director
position
and
Rick.
Doesn't
wanna
I
mean
why
she
take
out
more
responsibilities
and
let
me
look
up
I
think
it's
the
difference
in
page
six
or
eight
thousand
dollars,
no.
H
E
B
D
Oh,
it
wasn't
I'm
referring
to
her
as
your
wife
as
furniture
as
Deputy
Director
for
31
years,
and
very
well
capable
competent
of
taking
that
position.
I
wasn't
in
my
field,
in
my
my
view,
but
I'm
just
saying
it
was
brought
up
that.
How
can
we
replace
all
these
people
quitting
and
and
there's
two
right
there
now
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
I
guess.
D
D
F
We
had
three
directors
of
recreation,
billing,
engineering
and
DPW
were
added
in
for
a
raise
and
I
and
and
for
God
know.
They
know
the
day
weren't
supposed
to
get
a
race.
There
was
an
ordinance
writ.
Why
would
you
add
them
in
if
you're
misinterpreting,
no
I
did
not
misinterpret
anything?
The
word
annually
is
annually.
Okay,
mr.
miacca
wrote
a
written
opinion
and
I
didn't
make
up
any
rules.
F
I
sat
out
there
and
listened
to
this
for
for
quite
a
bit
of
time
when
you
guys
were
going
through
this
and
you
can't
check
and
with
with
all
due
respect
to
mr.
miyagi,
he
tried
to
change
the
word.
The
meaning
of
the
word
annually
annually
is
annually
okay
and
he
and
I
can't
speak
of
it
because
he
told
us.
F
We
can't
talk
about
his
opinion
in
public,
so
I
can't
say
nothing
about
that
opinion,
but
he
wrote
the
ordinance
and
he's
giving
an
opinion
on
the
organs
he
shouldn't
be
given
an
opinion
on
his
own
ordinance,
okay,
but
that
was
held
back
from
this
council.
This
was
a
we're
all
up.
Newark
council
people,
but
I
know
they
weren't
supposed
to
get
it
a
matter
of
fact.
F
B
B
I
C
G
C
C
It
appears
to
be
different
department,
heads
that
are
that
were
hired
by
the
mayor's
department
in
favor
of
the
mayor's
department
or
whatever.
You
want
to
call
it
and
I'm
just
concerned
that
this
is
a
little
more
personal
than
just
to
save
money,
because
you
take
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
compare
that
to
the
43
million
it's
pennies,
understandable,
but
then,
but
then
pennies
at
a
cost
of
what
at
a
cost
of
losing
four
or
five
people
are
ready
and
and
still
moving
forward.
So
I
just
hope.
Nobody
has
a
different
agenda
than
what's
showing
here.
A
C
Running
a
business
for
running
a
government
or
running
anything
and
we've
lost
already
four
and
possibly
one
or
two
more
on
the
way.
Do
you
think
this
is
a
good
thing
as
far
as
how
the
city
is
running
and
if
you
and
I'm
not
gonna,
put
you
personally
on
the
spot.
I'll
put
myself
on
the
spot.
If
I'm
coming
into
this
government
and
I'm
gonna
be
hired
and
I,
see
a
situation
between
the
council
in
the
mayor's
department,
I
see
four
or
five
people
that
departments
they've
already
quit.
C
A
Think
it's
a
good
thing
for
the
residents
that
we
don't
spend
money.
We
we
don't
have
I
mean
we.
We
could
end
up
in
emergency
management,
I
can't
sleep
with
myself.
Oh
my
god,
I
spoke
with
Treasury
at
length
on
the
phone
I
talked
to
Treasury
personally
and
I
also
have
until
we're
in
trouble.
We
are
in
trouble.
E
A
I
Again,
as
the
council
chair
mentioned
few
times,
we,
this
is
all
in
the
beginning,
and
we
still
have
to
wait
for
the
next
hour.
We
haven't
seen
what
the
audit
results
for
the
next
audit,
so
we
can
go
back
again
and
look
at
these
once
we
get
the
audit
resolved
for
this
year
as
of
right.
Now
we
don't
have
that
and
as
I
mentioned
at
the
last
meeting,
when
we
voted
on
this
and
as
mentioned
by
councilman
Muscat,
we
did
not
see
the
letter
from
the
state
or
it
was
not
according
to
the
mayor.
I
He
didn't
see
it
well,
we
didn't
see
it
either
and
we
made
as
we
made
the
changes
or
it
was
voted
on
for
the
millage,
as
as
I
mentioned,
keep
going
back
and
forth
mentioning
the
same
thing.
We
voted
on
the
villages
and
we
were
supposed
to
go
to
the
budget
to
discuss
these,
but
it
wasn't
discussed.
We
passed
it,
the
clerk
was
there,
it
was
mentioned,
I
went
back
and
looked
at
the
tape
and
it
did
match.
Somebody
mentioned
a
few
times
that
this
is
fluid.
We
can
go
back
and
change
it.
I
It
wasn't
us
that
said
it
was
fluid.
It
wasn't
mentioned
by
somebody
else
and
you
can
go
back
to
the
tape
and
review
it
and
again
you
know
we
can
go
back
and
revisit
at
the
next
audit
results
that
once
plan
marine
comes
back
and
presents
or
find
what
the
findings
are
for
this
year
again,
you
know
this
is
not
nothing
is
in
stone.
You
know
we
have
to
go
back
and
review
what
the
audit
results
right
now.
You
know
we
purchased
our
Golf
Course.
I
I
We
have
not
seen
an
agreement
by
anybody.
What
the
plan
is
how
they're
gonna
run
the
course
who's
gonna
run
it
and
how
much
money
is
going
to
be
coming
out
of
it.
So
there's
a
lot
of
money
going
out,
but
we
need
the
plan.
We
need
to
see
what
the
audit
results
are
to
see
what
the
state
of
the
city
is.
If
financial
state
I'm.
C
Did
we
not
all
the
group
manager?
Did
we
not
all
agree
amongst
all
of
us
to
vote
for
the
purchase
of
the
golf
course?
That's
at
1.8
million.
So
if
we're
ok
spending,
1.8
million,
which
I'm
in
favor
of
I
mean
publicly
saying
this
I'm
in
favor
of
but
we're
okay
with
buying
something
for
1.8
million,
but
then
yeah
we
got
a
problem
with
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
again
I'm.
Okay
with
buying
the
golf
course
I'm
not
saying.
C
I'm
just
trying
to
understand
the
logic
in
at
this
point
up
to
this
day.
That's
why
I
voted
against
this
I've
not
been
convinced
I've,
not
seen
anything.
That
has
convinced
me
that
this
is
a
good
idea
other
than
you
know,
hopefully
not,
but
some
motive
to
get
people
to
just
leave,
because
that's
what's
gonna
happen
when
we
continue
with
this.
A
I
E
E
I
Was
again,
as
you
mentioned,
it
was
voted
on
by
the
previous
count
so,
and
they
came
back
in
December
said
that
these
were
not.
This
is
not
the
contract
we
signed,
so
we've
been
through
this
for
a
few
months,
so
it
was
put
on
an
agenda
another
time
then
mayor
Yuri
removed
it.
When
the
president
of
the
Union
came
out
and
said,
hey
I
didn't
sign
this
I,
don't
know
why
you
guys
are
voting
on
this
and
all
of
a
sudden
it
was
removed
off
the
agenda
that
day,
so
we
I
mean
I.
I
did.
E
E
It's
around
Thanksgiving
did
that
late,
yeah
they're
still
in
oddity
thank
God
Linda
thanks
for
staying
around
because
we
were
at
risk
after
she
was
I
mean
all
of
you
need
to
be
more
when
you
address
these
department,
has
we
all
take
a
beating
every
day
and
to
get
it
from
this
table?
It's
their
first,
but
thank
God.
She
didn't
leave
because
we
would
not
be
able
to
complete
the
audit.
D
I've
gotten
several
emails
in
the
last
couple
weeks
about
citizens
asking
for
a
forensic
audit
now
I'm,
not
a
hard
percent,
sure,
I
kind
of
know.
What
a
forensic
audit
is.
Is
that
and
I
understand
it's
it's
expensive.
Do
we
know
what
that?
But
what
is
it?
What's?
It
actually
entail.
A
forensic
audit,
you
you
do
a
forensic.
E
It
depends
on
how
you
set
up
your
program,
but
I
would
say
that,
so
you
can't
give
an
estimate
unless
you
know
exactly
what
you're
being
asked
to
address
in
an
audit.
There
has
never
been
an
indication
from
any
of
the
audits
that
the
city
has
had
from
day
one
that
would
suggest
a
forensic
audit
was
necessary
if
there
was.
E
B
A
B
D
E
J
E
Auditing
but
an
audit
uses
statistical
analysis
and
statistical
sampling
in
order
to
make
the
auditors
be
able
to
believe
that
the
numbers
that
they
are
provided,
the
statements
of
the
client
are
represented
and
appropriate.
In
addition,
they
look
at
in
our
case
governmental
accounting,
standard
board
opinions
and
make
sure
that
we're
following
what
is
called
Gatsby
general
government
accounting
standards.
E
If
we
were
Ford
Motor
Company,
our
commercial,
it
would
be
fast,
be
Financial,
Accounting
standard
board,
and
so
you
make
sure
the
statements
are
presented
in
accordance
with
those
requirements
and
that's
why
it's
important
with
an
opinion.
An
auditor
is
obligated
if
they
find
that
the
statements
are
not
being
representative
of
actually
what
the
condition
of
the
the
clients
statements
are,
or
they
did
not
satisfy
gasp
your
FASFA
requirements.
E
Then
you
get
a
cloth,
what
is
called
a
qualified
opinion
and
that
they
will
state
that
we
as
a
professional
state
in
our
particular
opinion,
so
that,
but
that
is
the
highest
and
most
the
thing
that
I
always
look
at
if
I'm
going
to
invest.
Something
in
in
the
stock
market
is
does
that
particular
investment
have
a
clean
opinion
and,
if
there's
exceptions
and
it's
kind
of
a
assigned
to
the
reader,
that
there's
a
problem
with
the
numbers
and
statement
that
you're
reading
and
and
I'll
indicate
again.
C
C
Just
want
to
point
out
something
as
a
part
of
the
survey.
This
is
a
conference
of
Western
Wain
survey
that
we
looked
at
and
I
think
I've
been
looking
at
some
of
the
numbers
over
the
weekend,
so
I
point
out
something-
and
this
is
one
of
the
sister
cities
which
I
to
realize,
of
course,
has
a
higher
budget
Tier
one
specifically,
but
when
you
factor
in
a
number
of
residents
versus
number
of
full-time
employees,
so
in
that
case
they
kind
of
evens
it
out.
C
In
Dearborn
you
have
ninety-eight
thousand
residents,
almost
100
residents,
they've
got
seven
hundred
and
nineteen
full-time
employees,
a
ratio
of
one
to
every
137
residents
in
Dearborn
Heights.
We
have
57,000
a
little
bit
over
half
of
what
gia
one
has,
and
this
is
a
sister
city
that
we
always
you
know
right
or
wrong.
Compared
to.
C
We
have
241
versus
the
719
in
Dearborn,
a
ratio
of
one
to
every
240
residents,
which
means
every
employee
in
Dearborn
Heights,
just
based
on
those
raw
numbers,
is
doing
almost
double
the
amount
of
work
or
servicing
double
the
amount
of
number
of
residents
versus
what
they
have
in
Dearborn,
and
then
we
go
and
cut
their
pay
again.
Get
them
to
quit,
get
them
to
resign
get
them.
C
You
call
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
bottom
line,
is
they're
gone
and
go
out
there
and
try
to
hire
again
again,
I'll
repeat
it
again
and
again
and
again,
it's
just
not
good
business
management
and
I
think
we're
making
oh
I
hate,
usually
responsible,
mistake
but
I
think
we're
making
a
very
responsible
mistake.
Doing
something
like
this.
We
could
revisit
this
when
they're
up
for
a
raise
again
but
again,
to
give
them
a
raise
and
go
back
and
take
it
back
away.
C
You
got
families
that
you're
dealing
with
here,
I,
just
I,
just
don't
see
it.
I,
don't
see
how
this
is.
Okay,
I
and
I
realize,
of
course,
I'm
running
an
uphill
battle
here.
I
realize
a
few
of
the
council
members,
for
whatever
reason
feel
otherwise,
but
I
just
don't
think
we're
making
a
good
decision
as
a
council
as
a
whole
as
a
body.
B
Caston
yeah
and
with
all
due
respect,
this
idea
that
the
budget
is
fluid,
I
mean
we.
We,
if
we're
gonna,
vote
on
a
budget
and
review
it
annually
and
then
change
it
and
then
change
it
again.
That's
that's!
If
I'm
in
a
position
and
right
now
the
economy's
heated
up
it's
at
an
all-time
high.
So
it's
it's
an
employee's
market
and
this
idea
that
we'll
work
on
a
you
know,
change
the
budget
and
then
maybe
five
months
from
now
change
the
budget
again.
B
B
D
He
didn't
take
the
cuts,
but
I
just
you
know
I
would
be
in
favor
of
given,
given
you
know,
give
them
every
one
of
two
thousand
five
hundred
dollar
raise
just
show
that
we
are,
we
do
respect
them
and-
and
it
is
fluid-
if
we
get
some
positive
results
back
and
hey
were
wrong,
would
be
the
first
one
to
admit
diana
we've
made
a
mistake.
We're
gonna
give
you
some
more
money,
but
these
people
are
very
important
to
the
city.
D
C
Like
to
point
out
in
regards
to
the
assessor's
office,
we
had
turnover,
I
was
on
the
Tax
Review
Board.
At
the
time
we
had
a
thing
Mary.
You
can
tell
me
better
that
was
it
three
four
yeah
within
a
year
and
a
half,
maybe
two
years.
Yes,
that
type
of
turnover
it
was
actually
a
Mayan
working
with
that
particular
departments.
Absolutely
crazy!
C
You
couldn't
get
nothing
done,
I
mean
because
you
meet
somebody,
they're
gonna
be
going
good
and
then
they
would
leave
and
I
wouldn't
get
it
because
it
seemed
everything
was
going
fine,
but
then,
when
you'd
find
out
or
ask
them,
it
was
specifically
over
the
salary
because
they
were
getting
paid
just
absolute.
Oh,
so
now
we're
gonna
go
out,
look
for
department,
heads
and
again
this
is
not
my
numbers.
I
mean
this
is
numbers
from
this,
and
you
got
most
of
these
other
department
heads
getting
paid.
C
C
What
kind
of
quality
person
do
you
think
we're
gonna
be
able
to
get
with
due
respect
to
whoever
we
hire
I
thought
I
mean
as
a
put-down,
whoever
we
hire,
but
what
kind
of
experience
are
you
gonna
get?
What
kind
of
skill
set?
Are
you
gonna
get?
What
kind
of
management
skills
are
you
gonna
get?
What
kind
of
what
kind
of
anything
are
you
gonna
get
when
you're
paying
somebody
$54,000
for
a
job
that
they
can
get
in
any
other
city
for
70
and
80
and
90
on
up,
and
then
you
say
to
them?
C
Oh,
but
on
top
of
that,
we've
just
lost
four
or
five
of
our
we're
hiring
five
new
department
heads
again
we're
hurt
in
our
city
with
our
own
hands
and
a
hundred
some
thousand
dollars,
because
when
you
take
out
the
amount
for
the
grant
is
nothing
in
the
scheme
of
things
in
a
forty
three
million
dollar
budget
there.
It's
not
something.
That's
gonna,
make
any
type
of
difference.
I
really
think
we
oughta,
as
a
council
audibly,
think
this
through
and
think
of
the
consequences.
Yes,
you
save
some
money,
no
doubt
about
it.
C
But
what
are
the
consequences,
its
cost
versus
benefit?
So
if
it's
at
a
cost
of
losing
more
department
heads,
it's
just
not
I
mean
look
at
it
right
now,
I
mean
I,
know,
there's
a
started
about
a
week
ago,
we've
already
lost
some
people
in
a
couple
of
them.
I
know
when
they're
gonna
be
stopping
working,
but
then
we're
gonna
be
going
out
there.
Looking,
maybe
rehire
how
how're
you
gonna
be
able
to
rehire
I
can
do
that
would
want
that
job.
That's
for
sure,
I
mean
I,
feel
sorry
for
Elizabeth.
C
Honestly,
that's
gonna,
be
one
tough
sell
to
convince
somebody
to
take
thirty
thousand
less
than
what
other
cities
are
paying
them
and
with
the
circumstances
in
the
environment
that
we
have
going
on
here,
I,
don't
know
how
she's
gonna
be
able
to
do
it.
I
hope,
you're,
really
skilled,
Elizabeth,
okay,.
F
F
We
mentioned
this
I
believe
at
the
last
meeting
that
what
the
requirements
are
going
to
be
for
the
person
that's
going
to
be
hired,
I
mean
we
read
get
online
and
if
you
look
at
job
requirements
when
you're
looking
for
a
job,
they
say
you
have
to
have
this
this
this
is.
Are
we
going
to
actually
post
that
or
just
say,
looking
for
a
building
director,
no.
E
In
our
particular
case
and
take
them
through
with
the
DPW
I'm
looking
for
somebody
that
would
have
experience
in
a
water
fund
also,
you
know
highway
fund
and
a
building
and
maintenance,
hopefully
more
so
for
the
highway
and
the
water.
Why
that's
important
is
that
there
are
DPW
directors
in
items
called
chartered
townships
and
they
have
more
responsibilities
than
let's
say,
a
regular
Township,
which
would
not
deal
with
any
highway
stuff
and
so
consequently
I'm
looking
for
somebody
who
would
have
that
experience.
E
So
it's
not
to
say
that
I
would
not
also
look
and
people
who
currently
are
in
the
DPW
could
certainly
apply
for
it.
But
I
would
want
somebody
who
has
had
the
responsibility
of
supervision
so
that
there
have
a
knowledge
of
X
51
requirements,
that
they
have
a
knowledge
of
water
and
sewer
items
and
and
hopefully
have
been
in
a
community
and
have
actually
had
the
experience
dealing
with
that.
So
certainly
I
am
NOT.
E
Looking
for
political
appointments,
I'm
looking
for
people
who
I
would
want
to
see
come
here
and
be
here
for
the
next
15
20
years,
and
if
there's
two
or
three
other
mayors
during
that
time
period
would
say
boy
plot,
Co
picked
a
good
guy.
I
want
to
camp
him
stay
here.
In
the
case
of
recreation,
I'm
gonna
rely
on
Ken
Drive
assistance
in
choosing
someone
for
that
particular
position.
E
What
are
the
other
couple
that
we
have
for
building
and
engineering
that
one
is
a
little
more
trickier
person's
got
to
meet
the
state
requirements
or
I
can't
even
look
at
it?
They
would
have
to
be
a
have
a
building
license
in
at
least
two
years
experience
doing
inspections,
although
I
would
hope
we
would
have
somebody
more
so
than
that
I
do
have
a
interest
in
redefining
that
particular
department.
What
I'd
like
to
do
is
have
Jack
the
ordinance
director
take
over
the
responsibility
of
the
clerical
staff,
but
nothing
to
do
with
inspections.
E
He
can't
he's
not
qualified
to
do
inspections,
but
on
a
day-to-day
basis
and
I've
talked
about
it
and
the
utilization
of
more
computer
driven
in
the
department
and
I
think
that
I
would
prefer
to
have
the
next
director
concentrate
on
inspections
and
handle
that,
because
you
have
to
have
that
license
and
right
now,
Muhammad
had
took
care
of
Heating
and
Cooling.
You
do
not
currently
have
a
heating
and
cooling
inspectors,
so
I've
got
to
go
out
and
find
somebody
for
that
particular
position.
He
also
did
some
plant
reviews
and
I've
already
had
some
preliminary
discussions.
E
The
bigger
planning
reviews
are
currently
done
by
waiting
trims
impact
division.
We've
talked
about
them,
picking
up
the
additional
amount
of
the
smaller
jobs.
If
you
will
and
the
plant
examiner
aspect
and
then
we
also
need
the
person
that
is
tracking
and
supervising
the
inspection
process.
So
that's
kind
of
I
might
break
that
up
into
a
different
couple,
different
components,
but
that's
my
thought
on
that
particular
position,
but
so
yeah
we
would.
We
would
outline
it
by
the
going
rate
is
considerable.
E
I
was
going
to
put
on
the
next
agenda
the
opportunity,
so
I
could
go
out
and
hire
a
heating
and
cooling
inspector
I.
Don't
have
somebody
prearranged
we're
gonna
see
we
can
get
to
do
that
particular
assignment
and
then
I
would
look
to
get
the
directors
position,
but
it
will
be
I'd
like
to,
and
hopefully
the
scouts
will
be
agreeable
to
giving
Jack
a
couple.
Extra
bucks
pick
up
the
additional
duties
and
in
regards
to
supervising
the
clerical
school
well.
F
E
Okay,
I,
don't
have
a
problem:
okay,
yeah
just
think,
because
I'm
gonna
in
the
case
of
a
couple
of
them
I,
do
have
a
couple
contacts
that
I
highly
respect.
There
are
people
that
we
would
not
be
able
to
afford
in
the
DPW,
but
a
lot
of
the
directors
know
people
and
know
people
that
or
maybe
in
a
second
or
third
position
behind,
and
they
might
they
might
look
at
coming
here
and
certainly
their
opinions.
E
D
E
D
You
have
someone
in
the
wings
waiting
to
take
take
over
and
same
with,
the
DPW
that
should
be
part
of
their
job
is
to
have
someone
trained
and
ready
to
take
over
for
them
because
you
never
know
you're
retiring
or
death
or
something
there
has
to
be
a
person
in
position
and
all
departments
to
take
over
in
case
of
urgency,
because,
god
forbid
something
happen
to
any
of
any
of
the
department
heads
we
got
to
be
prepared.
We
can't
rely
on
taking
out
job
applications.
We
should
be
internal
on
these
situations.
D
E
D
Gonna,
go
by
my
previous
statement
of
giving
the
$2,500
raises
just
to
show
our
good
faith
and
and
I'm.
Looking
at
the
further
odd
the
audit
results.
I
know
something
we
can
make
some
people
happy,
but
I
believe
that
we
got
showed
that
we
do
care
about
these
people
and
a
$20,000
chunk
lump
raise
is
alive.
D
I've
met
one
resident
that
said,
I
agree
with
that
20,000
I've
heard
people
say
you
know
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
20
years
in
2004
ten
years,
I
mean
all
kinds
of
things,
but
not
one
person
and
I
talked
to
literally
probably
a
hundred,
not
one
said:
I
agree
with
a
$20,000
right
here.
If
it's
bringing
it
up
to
par
and
uncertain
times
you
just
BAM,
here's
20,000,
that's
a
lot
of
money.
I
mean
I'd
love
to
have
a
$20,000
race
that
go.
You
know
that
give
me
up
to
almost
30,000.
E
Mention
one
of
the
things
I
mean
I
know
that
the
figures
gonna
be
here
from
Police
Department,
Oh,
chief
yeah,
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
point
out
and
and
it's
an
important
from
I
already
have
some
police
officers.
Is
we
don't
have
enough?
Dispatchers
we've
hopefully
been
having
a
real
rough
time,
as
other
communities
are
having
hiring
dispatchers.
So
in
order
to
cover
it
we're
taking
an
officer
off
the
road
or
a
supervisor
and
sticking
them
in
dispatch
and
in
the
same
way.
H
K
Services,
section
Secretariat
for
lack
of
better
words,
the
Freedom
of
Information
Act,
requests
that
we're
getting.
As
the
mayor
mentioned,
with
all
the
digital
format
at
work,
we
have
in
place
with
their
entire
cameras.
You
know
we
go
to
body
cam
credit
increase
in
the
amount
of
digital
data
that
we're
going
to
have
to
produce
on
these
player
requests.
So
it's
not
just
copying
a
piece
of
paper
in
handy
it's
somebody
or
get
a
copy
of
the
police
report.
K
The
lieutenant
in
charge
of
the
Records
Division
is
currently
the
distaff
going
through
and
literally
you
have
to
watch
video
minute
per
minute
to
decide
what
you
have
to
redact
birthdays
name
driving
records
whatever
it
may
be.
That
comes
out
of
the
air
during
the
course
of
of
the
natural
reporting
in
the
police
function,
whatever
it's
going
out
to
these
are
increasing,
and
this
isn't
something
that
we
could
just
say.
A
D
I
think
I
think
it's
ludicrous
to
take
a
officer
off
the
field
and
put
them
behind
the
phone
I
mean
in
the
past
anytime.
We've
not
asked
to
get
a
new
police
officer.
We've
approved
them
with
no
questions
that
off
to.
If
it's
that
important
I
mean
we
would
we
would
do
that
in
a
second
to
take
someone
off
the
street
and
put
them
in
on
a
phone.
That's
that's
I.
Can
that's
I
can't
even
fathom
that?
That's
ridiculous
and
my
question
is-
is
for
this
position?
H
H
But
it
was
a
$40,000,
your
position.
We
were
not
constructed
the
decision
until
January,
so
really
it
was
only
20,000.
You
guys
cut
the
four
thousand
the
whole
year,
but
we
weren't
projected
to
start
that
until
January,
so
it's
just
from
January
until
next
June
twenty
thousand
dollars
and
yes
we're
looking
for
someone,
we
would
have
to
close
it.
Someone
who's
got
some
qualifications.
Next,
listen
I!
Need
you
to
position
that
civil
civil
service.
We
explain
it's
all
through
civil
service.
H
D
You
know
we
take
your
word
on
it.
We
depend
on
you
being
really
reliable
to
us
your
comments,
and
this
is
something
we
can
consider
also
I.
Think
if
it's
something
it
seems
like,
we
weren't
sure
exactly
what
this
position
was.
We
asked
around
and
we
got
a
different,
all
kinds
of
different
answers,
but
if
we
could
get
it
exact,
precise
I
know,
there's
you
look
at
video
all
day
or
is
that
I
mean.
K
K
K
K
K
K
You
know
there's
a
lot
more
increasing
FOIA
requests
to
see
what
police
officers
are
doing
on
a
daily
basis
and
comparing
that
to
what
they
didn't
know
particular
incident.
Someone
won't
see
the
little
far-reaching
as
far
as
that
goes,
but
that's
not
our
decision
to
make
it's
a
FOIA
request.
That's
a.
K
D
A
Any
further
discussion
or
sure
you
open
it
up
to
the
public
okay,
this
time
we're
gonna,
open
it
up
to
the
public.
We
ask
for
a
three-minute
limit
state,
your
name
and
your
address,
and
please
don't
comment
on
something.
That's
already
been
commented
on.
So
we
don't
repeat
ourselves:
go
ahead,
hello.
L
John
Riley
Amboy
Street,
Dearborn
Heights
last
year's
audit
showed
a
1.4
million
dollar
surplus
which
added
to
our
fund
balance
and
I,
was
here
when
the
State
Department
of
Treasury.
When
we
had
you
know,
deficit
in
the
fund
balance
and
the
Department
of
Treasury
was
thinking
about.
You
know
talking
to
us
that
about
the
deficit
reduction
plan,
we're
beyond
that
phase.
You
know
we've
been
running
at
surpluses
as
plant
moran
came
forward
to
this
council
in
the
past
and
explained
this
coming
year's
budget
for
year.
L
Ending
June,
30
2016
is
going
to
be
a
surplus
I
can
tell
by
the
cash
that
we
had
on
hand.
As
you
can
recall,
I
came
before
you
and
asked
you
know
to
approve
the
possibility
for
me
to
make
it
in
fund
loans
if
needed,
and
it
was
not
needed.
The
cash
surplus
between
June
30th,
the
2017
June
30
2018,
was
a
positive
two
million
dollars.
So
I
I
would
anticipate
that
this
year's
budget,
when
it
comes
out,
is
gonna.
Have
a
couple
million
dollars
surplus.
L
You
know,
and
so
I'm
just
concerned
that
you're
making
examples
of
some
of
these
pays
are
saying
that
we're
gonna
go
to
emergency
manager
because
I
don't
see
that
happening.
So
that's
City
hire
to
do
comptroller
back
in
January
and
I
had
mentioned
before,
never
had
any
opportunity
to
work
with
the
prior
Comptroller
and
we
got
a
notice
from
the
state
where
we
had
to
fill
out.
These
forms
regarding
pensions,
retiree
health
care
and
all
that
information.
L
I
I
participated
in
the
filling
out
of
those
forms
along
with
the
new
city
comptroller,
because
she
was
new
on
the
job.
We
pulled
the
numbers
from
those
reports
from
the
audit,
and
so
you
know
it
was
no
secret
that
you
know
the
retiree
health
care.
The
post
employment
benefits
were
out
there.
It's
just
now
that
Public
Act
202,
as
required
the
city's.
Now
to
say
how
are
you
going
to
start
pre-funding?
L
That
and
that's
you
know
that's
where
we're
at
but
I'm
so
I
grab
I,
went
to
my
office
and
grabbed
the
audit,
and
if
you
look
on
page
60
down
at
the
bottom
of
the
audit
of
2000
June
30th
2017
you'll
see
the
numbers
down
there.
The
unfunded
liability
numbers,
so
you
know
it
may
have
been
buried
in
there.
But
it's
all
it's
been
in
the
audit.
It's
been
no
secret.
It's
just
now
again
that
we
have
to
start
doing
some
pre
funding
of
that
and
I'm
gonna
end.
L
What
kind
of
when
I
was
walking
out
at
the
last
meeting
the
gentleman
that
I
recall
that
was
talking
about
his
driveway
because
they
were
building
too
close.
Well,
he
worked
at
Wayne
County
in
the
treasurer's
office
and
he
said
wow
do
they?
They
pay
the
controller
that
he
said.
I
worked
it
way.
County
I
was
in
the
accounting
department
made
thirty
thousand
dollars
more
than
that,
he
said.
I
can't
believe
it.
You
know
that
and
I
said
I
know.
L
I,
just
don't
think
it's
right
and
you
know
the
Comptroller
came
in
replacing
a
prior
controller.
Who
was
who
was
increased?
You
know
from
his
deputy
job
into
the
job
and
not
giving
us
full
pay
and
then
you're
hiring
somebody
experienced
from
the
outside
who
has
qualifications
and
at
which
I
see
now
from
working
with
for
nine
months.
The
detail
that
she's
getting
into
the
way
she's
working
the
audit
the
way
she's
working
in
him.
You
know
with
my
office
and
with
the
auditors
and
and
really
trying
to
get
up
to
speed.
L
You
know
again,
we
don't
want
to
lose
qualified
people
and
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
get
good
qualified
people.
If
you
have
pay
raises
that
are
significantly
below
what
the
market
is,
and
it's
really
something
you
need
to
consider
it
and
and
I
think
you
know
originally
waiting
for
the
audit
was
the
plan,
and
then
we
went
forward
with
these
cuts.
But
now
you
know
we
have
to
wait
it.
You
know
till
November,
for
the
audit,
but
I
can
tell
you
the
audit.
It's
going
to
show
a
positive
surplus.
L
I
can
see
it
in
the
cash
balances,
and
so
I
am
I.
Just
think
you
really
need
to
reconsider
and
look
at
it
at
making
some
of
these
pays
fair
for
what
these
individuals
are
doing,
because
we've
been
running
lean
and
mean
for
too
long,
and
and
you
know
it
and
we're
running
surpluses
or
you
know,
so
we
have
to
take
care
of
the
department
heads
too
okay.
Thank
you
very
much.
D
L
I,
don't
understand,
I
mean
that
means
the
surpluses.
I
mean
how
we
ran
between
June,
July,
1st
of
2017
and
June
30th
2018,
again,
I'm,
not
privy
to
what
the
financial
numbers
are.
Okay,
but
I
do
I
had
look
I
can
see
in
the
cash
balances
just
like
when
we
were
going
to
deficit
and
then
at
one
point
on
June
30th
we
were
borrowing
nine
million
dollars
to
make
it
through.
L
The
state's
told
us
that
in
in
public
act
OH
you
have
to
come
up
with
the
plan
and
I
think
that's
being
worked
on
with
plant
Moran
and
the
administration
you
know
so
so,
but
so
retirements,
I
guess
you
know,
I
can't
talk.
What's
going
on
in
the
future
I'm
saying
what
was
the
operations
between
July
1st
2017
and
June
30
2018,
okay,.
C
Okay,
yes
sure
who
is
not
an
appointed
position
was
an
elected
position
and
obviously
would
like
to
all
hope
it
is
totally
objective.
Are
we,
from
your
perspective,
in
a
virtual
team
management
situation?
No
okay,
because
my
concern,
if
we
keep
saying
then
I,
know
somebody
mentioned
that
you
know
a
treasurer
said
this.
My
concern
is
the
resident,
so
I
can
start
to
get
scared
with
everything
else
going
on
right.
You
know
that
there
are.
We
have
to
worry
about
little
with
the
surplus,
obviously
we're
not
in
our
Emergency
Management
situation
and
I.
Also.
E
L
I
mean
you
know
ok
years
ago
we,
you
know,
we
were
in
deficit
situation
and
we
had
this.
We
had
to
go
up
to
the
state.
The
mayor,
myself,
I,
think
the
human
resource
director
went
the
council,
chairperson,
because
I
drove
with
Ken
Bear
and
up
to
this
date
we
had
a
meet
with
the
State
Department
of
Treasury
came
up
with
a
deficit-reduction
plan.
It
was
a
five-year
plan.
L
I
think
it
was
succeeded
in
four
years
to
get
out
of
the
deficit,
so
I
mean
that
you
know
that's
what
puts
you
into
the
emergency
management
situation
now.
Yeah
I
mean
some
communities.
The
pension
funding
can
cause
that,
but
the
pension
funding
isn't
the
cause.
Here
we
had
the
healthcare
and
it
has
to
be
addressed
and
that's
what
I
think
needs
to
be
focused
on
working
on
the
deficit
reduction
plan
for
that,
okay.
M
I'm
jim
constant
and
I'm
from
5
5
to
7
heather
lane,
I'm
here
to
speak
on
behalf
of
my
position.
I
heard
my
name
mentioned
several
times
up
there,
so
I
really
thought
it
was
time
that
I
actually
speak
on
my
behalf,
because
you
guys
were
discussing
employee
increases
today
with
much
anguish.
I've
decided
to
inform
you
that
I
have
not
been
receiving
my
salary
increase
that
this
council
approved
for
my
position.
The
other
three
deputies
have
been
receiving
their
increases
since
July
1st
2018.
Two
of
these
deputies
are
relatively
new.
M
The
other
has
been
a
deputy
for
approximately
nine
years
in
2011.
I
gave
back
10%
of
my
salary,
just
as
everyone
else
did,
and
it
has
not
been
reinstated
yet
by
being
treated
equally
with
the
other
deputies.
In
essence,
this
would
increase-
or
this
would
reinstate
my
10%
as
it
has
for
the
deputy
treasurer.
This
body
approved
the
same
increase
for
me
for
my
position.
M
Yet
I
have
not
received
all,
but
one
percent
of
it
I
didn't
even
receive
that
in
my
first
paycheck
until
I
called
Linda
Vance
the
controller
to
ask
why
I
didn't
receive
it.
She
said,
or
she
told
me
that
it
was
not
approved
by
the
administration
for
me
to
receive
it
she's
only
doing
what
she's
told
essentially
I
am
being
penalized
for
working
for
the
city
of
Dearborn
Heights
for
more
than
30
years.
If
the
reasoning
is
to
keep
all
of
the
deputies,
the
same
then
I
am
being
treated
in
equally.
M
The
Michigan
Civil
Service
rules
allow
for
employees
with
seniority
to
be
treated
differently
in
respect
to
pay,
because
my
position
is
civil
service.
I
have
requested
a
civil
service
hearing
to
review
my
case
and
I
have
been
denied.
According
to
the
chair
of
the
Civil
Service
Commission,
the
human
resources
director
Elizabeth
Perry,
has
told
him
that
I
will
not
receive
a
civil
service.
Hearing
I
asked
him.
Why,
and
he
told
me
he
did
not
know,
and
now
my
boss
is
retiring
and
I
have
been
told
several
times.
M
E
M
M
A
N
I
it
took
me
over
a
month
to
contact
the
president
about
interviews.
He
never
spoke
to
me
about
a
hearing.
In
fact,
the
other
two
commissioners
tried
to
reach
him.
He
has
come
to
my
understanding
that
there's
more
information
may
be
related
to
the
Commission,
the
Commission
president,
that
I
don't
wish
to
say
publicly,
but
I
will
tell
you
that
I
did
not
have
a
discussion
with
mr.
Schwartz
about
your.
He
addressed
the
council.
Please
sorry,
not
the
audio.
N
Sorry
I
do
not
have
a
discussion
with
mr.
schwarzy,
who
is
the
president
of
the
Civil
Service
Commission
and
I
never
said
a
hearing
would
denied.
But
that's
not
my
point.
It
doesn't
I'm
not
allow
a
hearing
to
happen.
Then
it's
not
matter
what
you're
saying.
That's,
not
my
role.
That's
their
role,
that's
their
role.
Yes,
you
have
it
I
mean,
but
that's
not
my
place.
I
mean
Gary
Miyake.
Yes,
it's
our
operation
counsel.
He
it's
the
human
resource
director
does
not
say
what
the
Civil
Service
Commission
does
and
that's
not
my
place.
A
N
N
There
is
one
good
news
that
our
health
care
premiums
are
very
good.
We
had
a
meeting
with
all
the
unions
today
and
we
talked
about
the
health
care,
so
the
renewal,
it's
good,
what
we've
been
doing
with
the
active
employees
and
some
of
the
retirees
it's
working,
it's
it's
working,
and
this
is
the
first
time
that
I
met
with
the
unions
and
third,
their
employees
are
not
gonna,
see
an
increase
in
employee
contribution,
which
means
neither
will
the
city
and
something
we're
doing
is
working.
Thank.
A
O
O
I
provided
information
to
the
council
with
respect
to
pay
increases,
the
department
has
and
other
employees
were
in
that
classification
that
I
gave
I
pointed
out
to
the
council
that
every
employee
in
this
city
that
took
a
pay
cut
back
in
2010
all
of
the
unions.
The
unions
have
been
restored
to
a
rate
above
and
beyond
what
they
took.
A
cut,
plus
their
hours
are
still
less
the
department,
heads
and
I
know.
O
There's
some
deputies
involved
as
well
are
the
only
class
of
employees
at
that
time
that
have
not
been
made
whole
or
even
caught
up
with
a
little
bit
of
an
increase.
The
raises
that
this
council
approved
during
their
budget
process,
was
to
restore
most
of
these
employees
to
the
rate
or
close
to
the
rate
that
they
were
at
back
in
2011
I.
O
Myself
am
an
exception
because
I'm,
a
new
department
head
and
I
didn't
take
that
pay
cut,
but
the
person
prior
to
me
that
had
that
pay
cut
was
making
way
more
than
what
I
was
at
that
point
in
time
and
I
was
still
fine
with
the
idea
of
the
seventy
five.
Eighty
thousand
that
the
mayor
recommended
for
me
when
you're
talking
about
cutting
these
people
back
again
and
some
of
these
department
heads
they
were
hired
shortly
after
so
they
never
got
their
incremental
raises
to
get
them
to
the
full
amount
that
other
department
heads.
O
O
The
amount
of
168
million,
as
mr.
Reilly
stated
was
in
your
financial
statements,
has
been
in
your
financial
statements.
The
letter
was
addressed
to
me
that
we
did
not
get.
It
was
addressed
in
an
email
and
it
was
put
in
the
spam
folder
as
I
told
you,
which
is
correct.
You
can
shake
your
head
if
you
like
ma'am,
but
I
did
not
get
it
as
soon
as
I
found
the
notice
for
that.
We
had
to
file
a
corrective
action
plan.
I
brought
that
to
the
mayor's
Trench
indirectly.
O
O
Plante
Moran
has
also
specified
that
I
think
some
clarification
and
transparency
is
very
important
through
this
community
and
to
go
back
and
look
at
these
records
like
you
were
discussing
about
the
budget
and
not
knowing
you
need
to
look
back
and
rethink
everything
that
you've
thought
of,
because
there
is
some
in
proprieties
here
where
it
sit
there.
The
timelines
are
not
fitting
and
we
are
not
anywhere
close
to
emergency
management.
Okay,
thank
you.
Riley.
P
Mcintyre
Hazleton
Street
near
Heights
in
a
residence
since
1964
I
spoke
the
last
time,
but
I'm
really
asking
a
very
serious
request
here.
Please
stop
telling
people
that
we're
close
to
receivership
or
anything
else.
People
are
panicking
and
you're,
creating
the
panic
if
you're
gonna
state
something
make
sure
you're
stating
it
not
because
you
talked
to
this
guy
or
this
guy.
There
are
professionals
already
in
the
room,
whether
you
like
them
or
not,
or
you
believe
in
them
or
not,
that
are
telling
you
one
in
particular
that
has
nothing
to
gain
by
it.
P
He's
an
elected
official
that
we're
not
there
it's
dangerous
when
you
throw
things
out
into
the
world
and
just
let
them
fall
wherever
so.
This
has
always
been
a
difficult
thing
to
talk
about
money
when
I
was
first
hired.
Here,
I
was
asked
by
as
a
favor
by
the
mayor,
since
my
position
wasn't
already
approved
in
the
budget
and
they
had
an
open
supervisors
position.
P
I
already
spent
time,
just
by
my
example,
of
the
way
I'm
doing
my
department
and
running
my
department,
showing
you
that
I'm
doing
a
good
job
I'm
committed
to
this
and
the
people
that
you
have
here
are
all
residents
most
of
them
that
are
being
affected
by
this,
with
the
exception
of
Linda
and
we're
still
here
we're
coming
every
day,
despite
you
might
have
10
or
12
people
calling
you
I
have
30
or
40
people.
Calling
me
saying
what
is
going
on.
P
Who
is
going
to
get
control
this
situation
and
then
the
next
question
is
who
do
you
have
to
answer
to
besides
the
residents?
Who
do
you
need
to
answer
to
legally?
For
what
you're
doing
don't
tell
me,
this
is
not
personal.
Do
not
tell
me
it's
not
personal,
because
you
offered
in
the
middle
of
a
budget
hearing
no
disrespect
to
Kim,
but
you
came
out
of
a
meeting
and
offered
Kim
a
raise
when
it
wasn't
suggested
and
in
the
same
breath
you
denied
other
raises.
That
makes
no
sense.
P
That's
not
even
that's
not
even
being
responsible.
It
is
totally
totally
a
personal
thing.
I
had
someone
randomly
just
come
up
to
me
the
other
day
and
say
guess
what
I
heard
I
said,
what
they're
doing
it
on
purpose?
Why
would
they
do
it
on
purpose,
they're,
doing
it
on
purpose
because
they
want
they.
They
don't
like
the
mayor
that
much
they're
so
unsatisfied
with
what
happened
in
last
year's
election
that
they're
willing
to
go
to
this
lengths
to
destroy
our
city
in
the
process.
P
People
are
googling,
what's
happening
here,
people
this
the
word
is,
you
know
how
Facebook
works.
It's
spreading
all
over
the
state
and
eventually,
probably
all
over
the
country,
and
last
but
not
least,
Plante
Moran
is
an
internationally
recognized
auditing
company
I
think
they
have
a
lawsuit
against
us
for
slander.
The
way
people
are
saying
that
they're
they
are
deciding
handpicking
what
what
what
they're,
what
they're
auditing
that's
insulting,
that's
insulting
to
them.
Thank
you
and,
and
mr.
Wentzel
threw
the
chair
with
all
due
respect.
P
J
Gary
mahaki
Plainfield,
Street,
Dearborn,
Heights
I,
wasn't
planning
to
comment,
but
I
will
on
three
things:
one
if
miss
constant,
hasn't
received
something
she
should
make
sure
she
filed
something
with
the
city
clerk.
The
city
clerk
is
supposed
to
end
up
acting
in
the
secretarial
role
to
the
Commission
I
haven't
been
consulted
with
regard
to
any
sort
of
requests
for
hearing.
If
and
normally
I
would
be.
So
that's
a
suggestion.
J
I
stand
by
my
opinion.
Anyone
who
ends
up
saying
that
I
tortured
the
meaning
of
the
word
annually
is
simply
wrong
and
the
people
who
took
that
position
originally
thought
that
there
was
an
ordinance
that
was
in
place
and
weren't
even
able
to
legally
be
able
to
tell
that
the
item
involved
was
not
in
ordinance,
but
was
a
council
motion.
J
I
must
state,
then
there's
some
difficulties
that
could
potentially
be
created
in
terms
of
exposure,
including
personal
liability
on
behalf
of
certain
individuals,
if
they
end
up
basically
making
decisions
that
are
not
justified
by
legitimate,
non-discriminatory
reasons
and
then
finally,
I
appreciate
the
statements
made
by
Councilman
constan
and
Councilman
Abdullah
I'm
curious
that
we
did
not
really
end
up
hearing
anything
other
than
these
items.
The
justifications.
J
Q
Good
evening,
chief
Brogan
at
the
fire
department,
I
just
wanted
a
councilman
once
so
you
did
ask
about
the
deputy
chief
position
that
was
removed
from
the
from
the
council
and
with
them.
When
you
had
all
the
cuts-
and
that
is
true-
we
are
gonna
with
the
safer
grant.
We're
gonna
promote
the
battalion
chief,
so
once
those
are
promoted,
we
will
be
able
to
eliminate
that
that
position,
so
it's
first
of
all.
Q
Secondly,
you
see
there's
a
lot
of
firemen
here
and
the
mayor
mentioned
when,
when
you
talk
about
emergency
management,
that
gets
the
citizens
very
concerned.
Well,
they're
very
politically
active
our
group
is
they
watch
all
the
council
meetings
and
they
hear
that
kind
of
talk,
and
then
they
can
start
calling
me
almost
instantly
I
want
to
know.
What's
going,
how
it's
going
on
I
told
them
I
I
think
the
city
is
doing
very
well.
Everything
I've
heard
has
been
very
positive
on
reports
from
the
mayor
reports
from
well.
Q
Q
We
were
dedicated
to
the
city,
we're
dedicated
to
the
team.
As
a
group
we
want
to
see
this
city
succeed,
you
know,
are
our
livelihood
depends
on
that.
It's
it's
something
extremely
important
to
us,
and
so,
when
we
hear
just
today,
this
is
just
the
beginning
of
the
cuts
we're
in
on
certain
time
some
emergency
manager,
financial
crisis.
It's
it's
alarming
to
us
and
we
want
to
know
you
know
if
that's
the
case
and
I'm,
not
sure
where
we
need
to
hear
it
from
that.
Q
It's
not
if
I
mean
like
we've
heard
plant,
where
has
a
very
reputable
group,
I'm,
not
sure
who
else
can
tell
us
that's
going
to
satisfy
the
group
that
that
we're
doing
okay,
the
treasurer
just
saw
was
possibly
a
two
million
dollar
surplus
this
year
and
we
had
over
a
million
dollar
surplus
last
year.
You
know
that
doesn't
sound.
We
were
here
with
during
the
crisis
last
time
and
it
was.
It
was
very
you
know,
scary.
We
were
worried
about
how
the
city
was
going
to
go
on,
says
we're
collapsing
all
around
us.
Q
We
don't
want
to
go
through
that
again.
We,
the
10%
cut,
we
it
was.
It
took
one
union
meeting
in
a
pass
with
a
hundred
percent
in
one
vote
to
take
a
10%
cut.
That's
how
scared
we
were
of
the
success
of
the
city,
we're
very
dedicated
to
the
success
of
the
city.
So
we
want
to
be
very,
very
careful
with
the
words
we
use
in
financial
crisis
and
emergency
management.
That's
that's
very
meaningful
words
to
us.
Q
E
I
want
to
thank
all
the
firefighters
when
we
did
get
in
those
rough
financial
years.
There
was
a
fire
department
that
came
forth.
First
helped
us
out
and
I
can't.
Thank
you
enough.
You've
done
so
much
and
continue
to
do
so.
Much
for
this
community
and
I
will
say
as
a
mayor,
you
get
complaints
about
everybody.
I
get
I
received.
No
complaints
from
the
fire
department
keep
up
the
good
work
guys.
R
Good
evening
everyone
is
there:
a
3/5
for
rosemary
I
want
first
to
thank
chief
Gavin
when
he
stood
up
there
last
few
weeks
ago,
and
he
said
we
need
transparency.
We
are
a
family
and
I
appreciate
what
Christina
Kramer's
last
Lew
said
that
we
are
one
family.
We
should
work
together.
We
should
not
do
anything
to
harm
each
other.
She
stood
in
this
place,
I
agree
with
them
hundred
percent.
What
I
don't
like
is
some
something's
happening
during
the
budget
thinks
you
know,
I
didn't
like
at
all
as
a
resident
as
taxpayers.
R
R
Question
is
you
had
made
an
agreement
with
four
heads
of
department
to
take
fifty
five
thousand
dollars
a
year
plus
pension,
basically
they
retired
at
that
time
in
2012,
and
they
accepted
fifty
five
thousand
in
four
six
years.
They
never
asked
for
anything.
Why
did
they
accept
that
contract
or
that
agreement
was
the
city
at
that
time?
R
E
Thankfully
they
did,
we
saved
probably
a
million
dollars,
my
guess
over
the
five
years-
maybe
not
a
million
but
a
considerable
amount
of
money
as
a
result
of
their
sacrifice,
and
then
it
kind
of
they
got
attacked
over
it,
and
no
one
ever
came
to
the
conclusion
that
they
would
not
that
they
would
be
frozen
for
the
rest
of
their
life.
That
was
not
part
of
any
condition
and
no
discussion,
and
that's
how
it
came
about
there's
there's
the
other
thing
that
saved
this
community.
E
Quite
frankly,
were
these
drop
programs
with
the
police
and
fire
people
objected
after
the
fact
and
playing
Monday
Morning
Quarterback,
but
the
fact
of
the
matter
was
we
had
that
we,
as
was
mentioned,
we
were
this
community,
was
starting
to
run
some
rather
huge
deficits.
When
the
economy
went
zero
and
the
property
values
completely
dropped.
We
have
not
even
seen
property
values
that
amount
of
tax
revenue
the
city
receives
even
been
restored
to
what
it
was
before
that
economic
collapse.
It's
now
estimated
that
near
2023
or
2024.
E
E
One
of
the
things
that
I
learned
is
with
with
a
layout
process
in
this
city.
Created
crates
is
bumping
situation,
so
you
would
have
had
I'll
just
make
up
number
100
employees
and
85
of
them
would
have
bumped
in
other
jobs.
That
would
have
been
chaotic.
We
asked
them
if
they
would
agree
to
a
reduction.
We
worked
out
a
reduction
in
which
of
Friday
was
closed
and
they
took
a
pay
reduction
as
a
result
of
it.
E
All
that
come
together
as
well
as
an
important
point,
was
to
go
to
the
residents
and
ask
them
for
a
Headley
override.
If
any
one
of
those
pieces
had
not
come
in,
we
would
have
been
in
dire
states
in
in
essence,
what
we
did
is
we
served
like
an
emergency
manager
in
here
with
the
help
of
the
councilmembers
that
were
here,
the
employees
that
were
here
and
we
all
sacrifice,
and
we
all
work
together,
and
we
saved
this
city
and
I'm
proud
of
being
a
part
of
that.
E
R
L
L
R
E
I
had
asked
them
to
because
we
were
starting
to
run
surpluses
again
to
run
the
city
or
any
city.
When
I
went
to
school
many
years
ago,
at
Michigan
University
of
Michigan
Dearborn,
they
taught
us,
obviously
we're
all
taught
accrual
accounting.
The
one
thing
that
I've
learned
in
my
time
here
is:
you
also
have
to
look
at
the
cash
you
can
be
in
a
situation
that
you
could
look
at
the
books
and
be
in
a
positive
situation.
E
R
Didn't
tell
me
at
Target
when
I
met
you
that
you
have
more
money
and
the
surplus
than
what
you
anticipated
and
I
appreciate
that
before
the
election
I
just
want
the
Union
people
to
understand
and
all
the
city
employees
when
I
come
here.
I,
don't
have
any
data
in
gas
you
or
anybody
else,
but
as
a
resident
I
just
want
to
see
that
you
get
what
you
deserve.
What
you
worked
for,
your
money
is
in
the
right
place,
so
we
don't
fall
short
sometime.
R
E
Necessarily
we're
working
with
a
division
of
plant
Moran.
What's
his
name,
Brian,
okay,
Brian,
and
we
have
already
come
up
with
a
concept
that
would
satisfy
it
and
I'll
share
with
you.
The
console
has
to
concur
in
the
plan,
but
part
of
it
needs
to
be
general
fund
and
part
of
its
water
part
of
its
library,
so
that
becomes
there'll
be
two
accounts
at
least
two
accounts,
because
the
police
and
fire
legacy
costs
regards
to
health
care
cannot
be
commingled
with
the
other
employees
and
the
reason
for
that
is.
E
They
are
come
under
act
345
and
that's
got
to
be
a
separate
pot
just
for
them.
So
we
hope
that
we
able
are
able
to
pre-fund
health
care
using
345,
so
the
contribution
for
the
police
and
fire
will
come
out
of
the
Act
345
millets.
What's
left
the
liability
for
the
I'll
say
the
general
government,
the
none
Union
people
and
that
would
get
allocated
to
the
general
fund,
the
water
fund
for
those
people
that
work
in
the
water
and
sword
division
and
then
the
library
people
would
contribute.
E
So
the
number
is
being
actually
developed
by
I.
Forget
the
company,
but
I
think
we're
paying
them
next
on
the
next
bill
and
they're
calculating
it
by
classification
and
we've
asked
plant
Moran
to
review
those
classifications
that
they're
accurate,
so
nobody's
getting
more
viewing
required
to
pay
more
than
they
should
so
those
will
create
to
healthcare
funds,
and
what
we
have
to
do
is
if
I
recall,
right
I
think
it
still
got
my
notes
on
there.
We
have
to
be
at
forty
percent
in
the
next
twenty
years.
E
Thirty
years
and
I
feel
very
comfortable
with
that
that
we
will
be
able
to
achieve
that.
I
think
the
contribution
out
of
the
general
fund
will
probably
be
closer
to
a
half
a
million.
So
in
essence,
by
having
two
million
already
set
aside,
we
probably
are
funding
the
first
for
a
year
of
it
and
then
what
we'll
need
to
do
is
build
in
the
future
budgets,
that's
half
a
million
dollars
so
that
we
can
achieve
that
and
then
use
act.
E
We
have
to
keep
them
separate
and
one
of
the
things
that
every
time
we
do,
a
swearing-in
of
new
police
officers
and
firefighters
and
like
councilman
of
Della's
on
the
Stoics
here,
Lisa
exclaims
on
the
soviets
here
for
them
and
I
always
tell
the
new
people
I
will
never
ever
sign
off
on
a
hiring
if
I
didn't
think
you
could
come
in
here
retire
and
get
your
benefits
and
I
feel
very
strongly
about
that.
I
would
not
want
to
hire
somebody
in
here
and
ten
years
later
they
don't
have
a
job
or
the
community.
E
So
I
give
that
same
speech
all
the
time.
It's
the
truth.
I
really
believe
that
and
I
think
we've
really
secured
and
I
just
say
one
more
thing:
we
all
have
to
work
together.
These
numbers
when
we
don't
have
a
Ford,
Motor
Company.
We
do
not
have
industry
like
these
other
communities,
it's
a
struggle,
but
at
the
same
time
we
got
great
employees.
We
need
to
pay
them
need
to
keep
them
and
and
I
know
that
when
I
need
a
police
officer
or
fire
department,
I
know
that
I'm
getting
the
best
service
possible.
R
I
did
this
state
many
times
that
I
don't
mind
giving
people
their
raises
if
they
deserve
it,
and
if
we
have
money,
I
hope
everybody
in
the
city
put
yourselves
in
the
same
boat
like
Bob
and
crab
and
Kim
constant.
You
are
upset
because
they
took
money.
They
are
upset
for
a
day
because
they
lost
their
money.
I
hope
we
should
be
fair
to
everyone
and
to
everybody
in
here.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
D
H
Make
a
real,
quick!
No,
my
time
is
coming
to
an
end.
I've
spent
many
years
with
cities
over
38
years.
A
lot
of
these
young
policemen,
firemen
weren't,
even
born
when
I
started
I've
been
through
the
ups
and
downs
with
the
city.
We've
been
in
financial
crisis.
When
I
got
hired.
You
know
there
was
a
hiring
freeze
right
after
me.
We're
gonna
go
broke
this
net
I
just
want
to
see
how
this
negative
stuff
hurts.
H
It
hurts
the
employees
every
one
of
these
firemen
policemen
I,
think
we
have
the
best
employees
in
any
city
around
our
fire
departments,
awesome
naturally
I'm
going
to
say
the
police
department,
but
all
our
city
workers,
and
it
just
hurts
me
when
I
see.
You
know
some
of
this
this
discussion
and
will
I'll
see
some
of
these
senior
people
that
worked
with
City
a
long
time
get
upset
and
they
walked
out
of
the
room
or
they
make
comments.
It
just
I'm
on
my
way
out.
H
I
just
think
we
need
to
work
as
a
team
to
go
on
the
right
direction
and
that's
my
commitment.
I'm,
given
everyone
I'm
a
resident
here,
I'll
still
be
around
I
want
everyone
to
work
together.
We
can't
have
individual
plans,
we
all
got
to
work
together.
We
know
that
and
somehow
we
all
got
to
come
together
and
go
in
the
right
direction.
As
to
our
department,
heads
I've
worked
with
many
over
the
years.
H
This
group
that
we
have
now
we
have
our
staff
meetings
with
the
mayor
every
week
and
not
one
person
if
they
weren't
in
a
time
of
need.
Would
someone
not
help
them
I
mean
we
all
work
as
a
team?
If
it's
a
police
issue,
they
have
their
input.
We
have
you
know,
input
in
HR
and
Elizabeth.
Does
such
a
great
job,
maybe
as
counsel-
maybe
you
guys-
don't
see
it,
but
our
employees
at
City
deal
with
her
every
day
on
health
care.
H
When
there's
an
issue
called
Lizz,
Lizz
Lizz
is
up
all
night
doing
this
stuff,
so
I
just
want
to
say
I
think
everyone
deserves
their
pay,
but
I
just
hope.
We
kind
of
keep
the
negative
down
and
we
move
in
the
right
direction.
We
work
as
a
team.
We
have
some
great
employees
in
this
city
and
we
got
a
lead
by
example
up
here
at
the
top,
as
we
do
as
department
heads
and
them
as
employees.
We
all
got
a
lead
by
example.
So
thank
you
for
your
time
and
effort.
Thank
you.
G
My
name
is
Elle
kev,
which
I'm
louann
ann
arbor
trail.
I
am
pretty
dedicated
to
watching
council
meetings
and
typically
I.
Don't
come
to
these
meetings
to
see
what
the
development
work
is
that
you
all
of
you
are
doing.
I've
heard
a
lot
of
applause
in
here
tonight,
I'm
going
to
applaud
all
of
you
as
council,
people
I
think
you've
taken
a
major
responsibility.
You
have
major
decisions
to
make
and
I
hope
that
you
continue
to
endeavor
to
get
to
wherever
we
need
to
go.
G
There
will
be
scrapes
and
there's
going
to
be
bumps,
but
as
a
taxpayer,
I
think
you
owe
the
taxpayers
fidelity
to
us.
The
second
group
I
think
that's
old
fidelity
would
be
the
employees,
not
the
directors,
but
the
employees.
The
third
group
would
be
the
directors
but,
above
all,
the
citizens
should
be
given
the
greatest
consideration.
G
I
want
again,
thank
you
for
your
effort
and
in
my
judgment,
the
citizens
rescued
this
city
when
I
think
there
were
questionable
financial
things
going
on
when
the
economy
was
crashing.
There
were
councilmembers
here
that
we're
trying
to
point
out
when
that
was
developing,
that
things
needed
to
be
done
in
a
budgetary
way
and
there
wasn't
a
good
response
and
we
had
the
general
collapse
of
the
economy
and
the
near
collapse
of
this
city.
G
G
The
city
cannot
control
all
of
that,
because
there's
an
outside
agency
that
does
some
of
that,
but
I
think
that
needs
water
is
a
fundamental
life
thing
and
that's
for
all
of
us
and
I'd
like
to
see
the
council
work
some
effort
to
make
those
rates
less
absorbent
on
the
citizens.
So
again,
I
want
to
applaud
all
of
you
for
taking
the
position
of
being
elected
and
trying
to
make
and
trying
to
be
engaged
and
what
is
a
very
hard
job.
So
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
S
S
With
you,
I
do
believe
that
all
elected
officials
are
responsible
to
the
residents
and
I.
Would
question
council
members
making
comments
on
lie
there
that
they
would
give
$200,000
to
a
school
district
without
first
checking
if
they
were
owed
it
or
they
would
give
six
months
free
run
to
an
enterprise
that
is
now
renting
one
of
our
city
buildings
on
when
the
council
asks
about
public
act
on
202
and
168
million
dollar
liability.
We
do
pay
as
we
go
and
why
this
law
came
into
effect.
S
Is
companies
couldn't
pay
as
they
go
as
they
were
going
bankrupt
and
other
things
we
pay
as
we
go?
This
is
a
pre
funding
that
we
have
to
do.
This
number
has
been
around
I,
don't
want
to
say
since
2012
I
think
it's
before
that
and
a
Gatsby
forty
five
number,
maybe
not
every
single
member,
but
this
council
body
has
been
given
reports
at
least
every
two
years,
and
sometimes
more
than
that
by
the
actuary.
That
does
these
numbers
stating
anything
less.
It's
skewing
public
perception
on
somebody
else.
S
Why
asked
why
the
different
heights
Department
had
some
of
them
took,
went
down
to
55,000
that
did
save
the
money
at
the
city
over
a
million
dollars
a
year
we
caught
everybody,
the
department
heads
not
to
correct
the
mayor,
but
the
department
has
came
up
first
and
voluntarily
gave
their
ton
percents
and
some
of
us
weren't,
even
at
our
full
level.
Yet
we
are
still
in
steps.
S
We
gave
our
10%
and
there
still
wasn't
enough
money,
so
myself
fence,
Macario,
Elizabeth's,
vote
of
Harry
and
the
mayor
sat
down,
and
we
came
up
with
this
plan
to
save
in
some
aspects
over
fifty
percent
of
their
salaries.
When
you
factor
in
the
longevity
and
not
have
to
pay
additional
pension
expenses,
the
pension
contributions
for
new
people
or
healthcare,
it
did
save
over
a
million
dollars.
Lastly,
hopefully
I
got
time
on
speaking
about
public
perception.
These
past
few
months,
there's
been
comments
that
our
roads
aren't
done.
The
whites
are
out
all
these
other
things.
S
I
couple
of
us
took
it
upon
ourselves
to
start
asking
residents.
If
they're
happy
with
the
service
on
before
I
give
the
answers
that
we've
got.
We
are
not
responsible
for
streetlights
when
we
are
informed,
we
do
call
GTE,
we
work
with
DT
to
get
them
back
on,
I,
haven't
gotten
and
we've
got
negative
comments
here
and
there,
but
overall
once
we
solved
their
concern
that
they
come
up.
They
are
happy.
S
People
are
moving
here
because
we
have
low
crime
rates,
we
have
rising
property
values,
our
garbage
is
picked
up,
our
streets
are
swept
the
response,
times
are
low
and
we
have
low
taxes.
So
there
is
a
reason
why
people
are
here
and
the
majority
of
people,
not
the
17
that
some
of
you
might
hear
from,
but
the
majority
of
people
that
we
deal
with
are
happy
with
their
service
and
happy
with
their
city.
Thank.
A
D
Well,
it
hurts
me
to
be
accused
of
taking
risk
in
the
city
for
a
personal
vendetta,
which
was
stated
earlier.
I
know
that
I
lived
in
the
city.
My
whole
life
I
got
a
brand-new
family,
five
little
kids
and
building
an
addition
on
my
house.
Instead
of
moving
out
of
the
city,
I
mean
living
my
whole
life
and
I
would
never
do
anything
to
jeopardize
to
say
that's
a
loop.
That's
that
hurt
that
that
statement
hurts
really
bad
and
I.
Don't
know
how
many
city
employees
live
in
the
city.
D
And
to
make
a
comment
like
we're,
trying
to
destroy
the
city
for
a
personal
reason
that
hurts
right
here,
I'm
serious
and
it
also
hurts
when
one
resident
came
up
and
said
that
you
know
all
these
applause
going
on
for
everything.
Let's
applaud
the
City
Council.
All
these
people
just
sat
there
with
their
hands
on
their
lap
that
hurts
that
really
hurt
a
lot.
So
everyone
is
that
didn't
clap.
Thank
you.
Thank.