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From YouTube: 4/14/23 - Dearborn Heights Budget Study Session
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The Dearborn Heights Study Session for the Corporate Fund Budget for Fiscal Year 2023-2024 taking place Friday, April 14th 2023 in the Dearborn Heights Council Chambers and via Zoom.
A
Good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
welcome
to
the
2023-2024
budget
study
session
corporate
fund
budget.
Today's
study
session-
it's
12,
30
p.m,
and
today
is
the
14th
April
of
Friday
April,
the
14th
we're
gonna
have
today
the
treasurer's
office,
Department
of
Public
Works
and
Highway
Building
Maintenance,
major
and
local
streets,
Water
and
Sewer
we'll
go
ahead
and
start
with
our
Treasurer
Lisa
x,
Clayton
and
our
controller.
B
A
B
Consistently,
this
budget
is
relatively
the
same
other
than
there's
few
increases
that
are
due
to
inflation
and
other
expenses.
That
naturally
increase.
Like
you
know,
when
you
look
at
contractual
Services,
you
may
say:
well
how
did
it
go
from
the
29
64?
Excuse
me
29640
to
the
45.
That's
because
the
previous
year
we
had
a
credit
on
the
books
of
ten
thousand
and
that
was
applied
and
since
that
credit's
been
used,
our
regular
expenses
are
approximately
45
000.
So
that's
restored
everything
else.
B
Let's
see,
if
we
just
go
down
salaries,
we
don't
necessarily
control.
That's
contractual
elected
salaries,
of
course,
are
set
by
that
commission
the
retirement
years.
This
is
the
third
year
for
that
item,
so
that
will
drop
off
next
year.
That's
for
one
of
our
retirees
from
our
department,
let's
see,
looks
like
part-time
is,
of
course,
relatively
the
same,
with
a
moderate
increase
a
little
bit
there
down
to
overtime
again
we're
running
the
same
with
that
department.
We
use
overtime
to
catch
up
on
workload
when
employees
are
off
and
their
work
unfortunately,
can
accumulate.
B
Even
though
we
cross-train
our
staff
but
I
know,
comptroller
King
will
address
that.
A
little
bit
further,
what
our
design
and
what
we're
looking
to
do
with
that
item,
moving
on
down
fringe
benefits,
we're
not
controlling
that's
through
HR
and
those
arrangements
are
supplies
remain
the
same
approximately
a
little
bit
in
Greece
and
that's
because
of
it.
Inflation
and
other
costs
that
increase
paper.
Things
like
that
inflation
has
taken
its
toll
on
everyone.
Our
dues
membership
is
running
this
again,
the
same
right
750..
B
That's
our
membership
to
Michigan,
Municipal,
Treasures
Association,
the
association
of
public
treasurers
of
the
United
States
and
Canada.
Those
are
those
memberships,
so
there's
not
a
lot
of
them,
but
it's
750..
The
the
mileage
is
the
same
travel
education.
We
came
in
at
3
000
the
previous
year.
We've
asked
for
3
500
this
year.
That's
because
we
have
our
staff
you're
going
to
see
training
added
as
well,
we'll
take
those
two
at
the
same
time:
3,
500
and
500.
B
On
those
two
line
items
we
are
now
having
newer
staff
that
has
been
attending
trainings.
They
just
completed
their
National
certification
for
cash
handling
and
we're
always
looking
for
training
opportunities
for
them,
and
also
my
Deputy
myself
and
our
management
staff
go
to
other
trainings
too.
That
are
specific
for
management.
So
that's
why
you
see
those
numbers,
but
that's
a
small
increase
there.
Capital
outlay
is
always
going
to
be
a
thousand
across
the
board.
B
It
has
been
since
22
and
that
is
to
accommodate
any
emergencies
or
like
say
a
cash
machine
goes
down
of
the
machines
that
verify
cash
and
whatnot.
We
need
to
be
able
to
replace
those,
so
that
is
that
contingency
capital
outlay
in
case
of
emergencies,
so
that
is
our
budget,
so
overall
we're
at
609
514
compared
to
585-368
from
the
previous
year.
A
B
D
Okay,
French
benefits
went
down
because
last
year
we
had
the
government
pension
included
in
that
and
right
now.
French
benefits
is
only
going
to
be
your
FICA,
which
is
your
employer
tax
and
then
you'll
see
a
separate
item
for
the
pension,
and
that
way
we
can
actually
keep
track
of
how
much
pension
is
charging
or
is
being
charged
by
Department
sounds
like
a
great.
D
I
just
wanted
to
add
one
thing
that
the
treasurer
has
requested,
and
that
is
another
individual
in
her
Department.
We
have
been
dancing
around
that
back
and
forth
being
that
she
does
have
a
debt.
Well,
quite
a
few
of
your
employees
and
there
have
been
quite
been
there
quite
a
while
and
they've
accumulated
a
lot
of
excess
time
off.
So
when
they're
off
there
isn't
anybody
to
cover
that
that
position,
so
the
work
sits
till
they
get
back
and
then
that
kind
of
affects
the
trickle
effect.
D
Because
then,
when
it
comes
into
the
Comptroller
Department,
it
could
be.
You
know
two
weeks
late,
three
weeks
late,
whatever,
depending
on
the
time
frame
that
it
takes
them
to
get
caught
up.
So
we
are
kind
of
like
thinking
about
maybe
adding
another
full-time
employee
and
again,
it's
kind
of
like
open
discussion
right
now.
If
we're
going
to
have
one
that's
going
to
be
for
both
departments
where
it
would
be
like
a
floater
for
both
departments
and
if
that's
the
case,
it
would
have
to
be
probably
more
of
a
salaried
position.
A
You
know
in
the
last
you
know
a
few
years
we've
had,
you
know
between
the
controllers
and
the
treasurer's
office
and
I
think
a
lot
of
it
comes
down
to
way
back
when
in
maybe
20
30
whatever
it
is
years
ago,
the
white
systems
were
not
put
in
place
and
even
when
I
tried
to
plant
Moran,
a
lot
of
systems
are
not
in
place.
A
lot
of
logistics
are
not
in
place,
so
this
is
not
a
personal
name
type
of
thing.
A
It's
more
of
a
position,
slash
two
different
departments
that
you
would
like
to
think
would
gel
well
together,
but
unfortunately,
based
on
many
years
of
things
not
being
done,
let's
say
eight
plus
level
I'm
trying
to
see
I'm,
trying
to
be
PC
so
not
being
done
at
a
plus
level
leaves
a
lot
of
gaps
and
sometimes,
as
you
know,
we've
had
situations
where
there's
been
a
dollar
figure.
They
can't
be
figured
out
where
it
came
from
what
happened
here.
A
Was
this
one
ad,
and
this
didn't
happen
and
honestly
I
tell
you,
as
a
council
member
every
time,
I
hear
that
it
just
doesn't
make
me
feel
comfortable,
but
every
time
we
pull
the
layers
we
find
out,
especially
through
plant
Moran
over
the
years,
that
there's
just
not
enough
good
systems
in
place.
So
having
somebody
working
in
both
departments
might
be
the
conduit
to
to
to
make
things
work
better,
maybe
put
better
systems
in
place.
I,
don't
know
what
position
it's
going
to
be
well.
D
B
Again,
this
to
the
point
and
I'm
going
to
reiterate
when
you
have
experienced
staff
that
goes
out,
and
they
have
this
extended
time
off-
that
they've
earned
right
because
that's
what
we
do,
we
keep
giving
them
time
their
work
either.
Somebody
else
like
I
cross
trained
in
my
department
somebody
steps
up
to
do
their
job.
Well,
guess
what
happens
to
their
job
and
then
it's
just
a
trickle
down
and
then
that
work
somebody's
work
is
going
to
sit
undone
for
that
week,
period
or,
however
long
it
may
be,
which
is
unacceptable.
B
E
D
E
A
E
D
Well,
that's
that's
a
debate
between
the
two
of
us
then
that
we
have
to
you
know,
come
across
it's
not
a
matter
of
liking,
you
it's
a
matter
of.
Can
you
do
the
job
and
then
you
put
aside
your
personal
feelings,
which
we've
talked
about
this
many
times.
I
use
the
basketball
court
as
a
and
as
a
as
an
example.
I
don't
have
to
like
you,
but
man
you're,
my
best
friend
more
on
the
court,
because
I
need
you
down
there
to
get
that
ball
in
the
basket
outside
the
court.
I
don't
care.
A
D
F
B
A
So
a
concern
I
would
have
then
so
now,
when
we
say
account
and
I
get
it
and
honestly
I
I
I
was
thinking
almost
everybody's
got
to
be
either
accounting
or
pretty
close
to
the
accounting
degree.
But
with
that
being
the
case,
any
accountant
you
hire
based
on
my
general
knowledge
of
it
I
think
would
probably
be
minimum
90
95
on
up.
If
I'm
not
mistaken,
what
would
they
be
at
nowadays.
A
Are
okay?
Maybe
that's
five
thousand
dollars
correct?
Okay,
so
so
so
with
that
being
the
case,
so
let's
say
60
70
50,
whatever
it
happens
to
be
so
with
that
being
the
case,
the
the
be
a
lot
more
open-minded
about
it,
although
I'm
open-minded
about
it
now
would
be
the
situation
with
plant
Moran
because
we're
still
paying
them
a
high
high
amount
of
money.
So
if
you
came
to
me,
it'd
be
much
easier
decision.
A
D
I
have
said
numerous
times
that
I
want
I
am
working
toward
getting
plant
ran
out
of
here
within
the
next
six
to
nine
months.
I
do
have
a
placeholder
for
them
in
the
budget
for
the
next
year,
but
I
am
not
expecting
to
use
them
for
the
next
year.
That's
why
I'm
trying
to
build
the
team
up
so
that
we
can
actually
start
to
do
declining
plant
Moran's
work
and
getting
it
more
in-house.
D
E
Kind
of
just
like
I
know,
Council
chair,
said
this
last
last
time
we
spoke
about
the
Comptroller's
office.
Just
seems
like
we're
spending
tons
and
thousands
of
dollars
into
this
Comptroller's
office
and
there's
just
been
bandages
over
bandages
over
bandages.
We
don't
know
how
to
fix
this
issue.
Why
don't
we
use
somebody
like
next
lady
who
was
you
know,
comes
comes
from
an
accounting
background.
It
seems
like
he's.
E
You
know,
hitting
the
ground
running
before
we
actually
hire
somebody,
because
what
I
don't
want
to
see
us
doing
is
still
have
plant
Moran
hire
the
psychata,
that's
being
split
between
you,
two.
Why
don't?
We
have
them
oversee
this
position
and
that
when
you're
able
to
bring
somebody
in
he
can
explain
to
whomever
that
is
because
you're
going
to
be
too
busy
she's
going
to
be
too
busy.
E
Even
if
that
means
you
know,
while
while
plant
Moran
is
here,
he's
helping
foreshadowing
them
letting
them
leave
figuring
out
what
this
new
position
and
title
needs
to
be
because
the
Comptroller
is
not
going
to
be
able
to
really
focus
in
on
and
and
do
it
and
neither
is
going
to
be
the
treasure
you
guys
probably
got
a
million
things
going
on.
Have
him
oversee?
E
What's
going
on
soon
as
primarina
is
going,
it's
gone,
we're
more
than
willing
to
hire
another
employee,
that's
able
to
split
between
the
two,
but
what
we
can't
keep
doing,
and
at
least
for
myself
how
I
feel
is.
We
can't
spend
a
million
dollars
on
plant
Moran
and
say,
but
we
also
need
to
hire
an
accountant.
It's
going
to
be
split
between
the
two.
Are
we
playing
plant
Moran
I.
D
I
understand
and
I
would
love
and
we've
talked
about
getting
in
a
intern.
Okay,
just
to
start
working
toward
these
things
that
we
need
to
be
cleaned
up.
We
can't
get
these
things
cleaned
up
without
the
help
we
have
plant
Moran
right
now
we
can't
get
them
gone
into.
We
have
people
that
can
replace
them
so
that
this
is
a
twofold
yeah
you're
going
to
spend
money
up
front,
but
in
the
long
run,
you're
going
to
be
decreasing.
E
I
know,
but
well,
that's
why
we
have
the
Comptroller
in
our
are
definitely
comptroller
and
Max,
and
everybody
else
that's
in
that
office.
That
knows
what's
happening,
I'm
not
depending
on
one
other
individual.
That's
gonna
be
split
between
the
two
to
determine
what
plant
Moran
did
right,
but
what
I
do
want
you
to
know
is
before
you
before
you
started
here
and
when
we
were
at
Riverside.
Having
our
meeting
we
were
told
by
plant
Moran
Administration,
our
former
Corporation
Council.
The
plant
Moreno
is
going
to
be
here
for
six
months.
E
Max
a
year
we're
now
budgeting
for
our
second
or
potentially
third
year.
We've
spent
close
to
1.2
million
dollars
on
plant
Moran
Gap
guys,
that's
a
lot
of
money.
You
know
what
we
could
have
done.
I
could
have
hired
five
more
employees
and
still
been
under
that
1.2
million
dollars.
I
agree
so
I
and
you
have
to
get
where
we're
coming
from.
We
have
a.
We
have
fiscal
obligations
to
the
city.
We
have
to
be
fiscally
responsible.
E
E
Left
about
maybe-
and
it's
not
your
fault
by
the
way-
I
want
you
to
know-
I
truly
feel
comfortable
with
you,
I
think
Mrs,
King,
you're
doing
a
great
job.
I
truly
do
I,
think
you're
you're,
really
transitioning
into
a
good
team.
I
think
you
got
the
right
mindset,
but
I
also
have
to
make
sure
that
we
know
that
we're
stopping
on
eggshells
here,
1.2
million
dollars
in
the
Comptroller's
office.
That's
a
lot
of.
E
No
keep
going
the
way,
I
think
right
now
our
main
focus
should
really
be
finding
I'll
put,
or
maybe
the
council
chairs
somebody
can
put
a
resolution,
that's
saying
in
six
months,
they're
no
longer
going
to
be
with
us.
It's
on
you
guys
the
professionals
because
I'm
not
I'm,
not
a
CPA
I'm,
not
an
accountant.
This
is
your.
D
E
D
You
know
what
it
just
depends
on
how
long
it
takes
to
get
somebody
in
here.
We
just
interviewed
three
people
well,
actually
one,
because
only
one
showed
up
for
a
deputy.
Last
week,
the
week
before
we
interviewed
three
people
for
a
deputy
now
I
have
to
go
in
and
they
actually
have
to
do
the
civil
service
test.
A
Having
these
issues
I
see
the
councilman's
concerned,
though,
because
if
you
look
at
it
from
another
perspective
and
and
I'm,
not
necessarily
saying
this
is
the
case,
but
just
human
nature,
if
anybody's
in
your
position
and
they
got
plant
Moran
there
helping
them
out,
let's
face
it,
then
it
do
help
out.
Okay,.
F
D
No
I
I
don't
want
plant
Moran
here
to
keep
rolling.
That
is
a
lot
of
money,
and
on
top
of
that,
they
don't
want
to
be
here.
They're
up
here
doing
the
type
of
work.
They're,
CPAs
they'd
want
to
be
doing,
bookkeeping,
entry
level,
work
and
then
I,
don't
want
to
say
entry
level,
but
they
don't
want
to
be
doing
Deputy
work
and
that's
what
they're
doing
right
now,
if
I
had
somebody
in-house
it
could
be
I
can
use
them
in
a
much
broader
sense,
as
opposed
to
just
what
plant
Miranda.
E
D
D
A
C
Yeah,
more
I
think
you
missed
the
part
about
the
problem
being
they
can't
get
the
work
done
when
people
who
have
built
up
time
off,
take
it
and
are
gone
for
a
while
stuff
sits
on
a
desk.
So
we
can't
get
rid
of
plant
Moran
until
we
get
the
work.
Working
and
I
see
their
point
totally
and
I
think
we
can
do
it
faster,
getting
rid
of
platinum
around
if
we
have
some
extra
help
and
if
they
can
shift
between
the
two
places.
I
see
it
as
a
really
Plus.
B
B
The
longevity
and
all
the
time
off
they
have
and
when
somebody's
off
somebody
we
cross
train
and
somebody
steps
into
that
role
and
does
that
person's
work
that's
off,
but
they
still
have
their
work
and
somebody's
work
isn't
going
to
get
done
because
we
don't
have
a
person,
an
actual
body,
to
do
that.
Workload,
and
this
is
really
important,
because
I
also
have
in
the
next
few
years
my
Deputy
will
be
retiring,
and
this
is
a
preparation
for
that
being
prepared
being
proactive,
especially
with
creating
tax
rolls.
E
E
Believe
about
three
or
four
months
ago,
Madam
Treasurer,
mistaken
me.
If
I'm,
if
I'm
wrong,
you
said
that
you
no
longer
need
plant
Marine
Gap
in
the
treasurer's
office,
because
you
guys
are
fine.
I
was
also
told
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago
that
there's
going
to
be
about
three
or
four
people
from
plant
Moran
group
that
are
working
in
city
hall
with
us
and
that's.
Why
there's
it's
such
a
hefty
bill
that
they're
charging
us
and
one
of
the
issues
that
we
were
going
back
and
forth
was
that
if.
G
E
Council
in
the
Bible
and
who's
liable,
because
we
were
expected
from
plant
Moran
group
to
have
three
or
four
employees
working
amongst
comptroller
in
the
treasurer's
office
about
four
months
ago,
we
were
told
that
the
treasurer
is
no
longer
in
need
of
of
them.
We
know
we're
doing
we're
fine,
we
don't
need
them
to
come.
True
they're
only
going
to
focus
on
the
controls
office
and
they
came
here
and
they
spoke
to
us
now,
I'm
being
told
well,
people
are
taking
off.
D
E
B
So
if
I,
if
I
may,
plant
Moran
was
brought
in
for
certain
skill
sets
to
do
a
certain
scope
of
work
that
scope
of
work,
the
Treasure's
office
is
not
using
or
does
not
need.
In
fact,
they
help
me
with
my
my
Land
Bank
reports,
we're
all
good
I'm
all
trained.
That's
done!
That's
why
I
don't
need
them
now
they
helped
us
with
the
forms.
The
communication
forms
before
between
departments
that
has
been
implemented,
beginning
April,
1st,
that's
I,
think
has
gone
very
well.
B
So
there
therefore
again
talk
about
the
scope
of
work
I'm
talking
about
it's
like
apples,
oranges,
respectfully,
because
I'm
talking
about
a
position
to
support
when
staff
is
off,
vacation
gets
ill,
whatever
the
case
may
be,
it
doesn't
and
that
wouldn't
be
planned
Moran's
job.
They
would
not
do
that
work
for
us.
They
do
not
do
that.
Work
for
us
they've
never
come
in
and
replaced
any
of
my
staff
members
when
my
Deputy
was
off
for
something
extended.
I
didn't
have
anybody
other
than
my
existing
staff.
Okay,.
F
B
E
This
one
individual
is
going
to
take
on
the
role
of
two
departments
and
any
anything
that
is
being
slowed
down
is
going
to
be
held
responsible
by
this
one.
Individual
I
just
want
to
make
this
very
clear,
because
I'm
asking
on
the
record
we're
expecting
that
one,
individual
accounting
that's
going
to
make
about
sixty
thousand
dollars
a
year.
Right.
Aside
from
your
aside
from
your
Deputy
controller,
it's
going
to
be
the
one
that's
supposed
to
pick
up
the
work
for.
D
Let
me
rephrase
this:
we
are
trying
to
build
a
team
to
work
through
the
Comptroller
and
the
Treasurer's
Department
I'm,
not
going
to
say
just
one
person,
I'm
going
to
say
three:
we've
got
a
deputy
well
actually
for
accounting,
your
Deputy
okay,
so
it
would
be
an
entire
team
that
would
be
working
together
to
try
to
clean
this
process
up
and
get
it
to
run
smoothly.
When,
when
the
treasurer
says
she
doesn't
need
plant
Marine
in
her
Department,
not
necessarily.
D
However,
there
are
things
that
have
been
done
in
her
Department
that
still
being
done
by
plant
Moran
to
get
the
flow
going
so
that
things
are
properly
run
in
the
Comptroller
Department.
There
is
processes
that
are
broken.
We
can't
fix
them
until
we
sit
down
and
actually
say
what
is
going
where
one
of
them
is
we're.
Closing
out
bank
accounts.
Okay.
Next
we
got
to
go
through
another
process
and
say:
where
are
we?
Where
is
this
money
being
posted
and
is
it
being
posted
to
the
correct
accounts?
There's
a
lot
of
moving
Parts
in
this?
D
A
F
E
A
E
F
B
B
F
A
I
H
A
You
tell
us
about
your
major
asks,
in
other
words,
major
asks
different
from
last
year
and
then
a
lot
of
the
ones
in
the
middle
of
the
budget.
These
are
the
same
ones.
They
pretty
much
stayed
pretty
consistent.
Then
we'll
see
what
question
the
city
council
has
then
we'll
go
from
there
instead
of
having
to
do
them
line
by
line
okay.
So
so
start
with
just
your
general
presentation,
your
general
major
asks
this
year
and
then
we'll
go
from
there
we'll
go
with
questions
from
Council.
A
J
A
Not
in
the
city,
grass
cutting
I
had
a
little
question
on
that
that
went
from
amended
budget
75,
but
then
so
far
a
projected
activity.
This
is
the
one
right
in
the
center.
There
item
818
.100
this
year
we
spent
85
875
were
projected
spent
by
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year.
Then
we're
back
at
75
000
recommended
budget.
You
know
the
main
purpose
for
the
change
in
that,
because
I'd
like
to
assume
that
the
city
grass
cutting
is
not
going
to
change
much.
I
A
I
A
A
I
It's
struggling
I
mean
you
know,
I.
The
work
that
needs
to
be
done
now
is
repairable,
but
it's
you
know
becoming
costly
to
keep.
Maintaining
these
vehicles
so
I
mean
there's,
there's
two
primary
pieces
of
equipment
that
I'd
like
to
fix
one
or
replace
either
a
bucket
truck.
You
know,
so
we
have
our
second
bucket
truck
for
the
tree
crew,
the
one
that
we're.
D
I
A
A
I
get
a
lot
of
complaints
on
trees,
tree
trimming
tree
cutting
bad
tree
I
know.
Most
recently,
you
were
dealing
with
fun
and
I
know
you
emailed
me:
I
haven't
had
haven't,
read
the
email.
I
know
you
emailed
me
today,
but
you
know
it's
consistently.
These
are
things
that
residents
are
very
concerned
about
and
so
now
I'm
more
concerned,
because
I
would
like
to
give
you
some
of
that
Capital
outlay
to
do
what
needs
to
be
done.
A
A
A
lot
of
our
trees
need
trimming
now,
when
I
compare
it
to
a
lot
of
or
some
other
cities,
I
should
say,
I
think
I
don't
want
to
use
the
words,
we're
dropping
the
ball,
but
we're
behind
the
eight
ball
on
it.
So
what
would
you
need
to
make
that
service
better?
Roughly
I?
Don't
even
more
employees,
obviously
too
yeah
I.
I
I
Some
of
that
stuff
we
can
split
into
two
Crews
and,
and
you
know,
do
sweeping
entry
removal
at
the
same
time
you
know,
but
the
tree
trimming
and
tree
you
know,
especially
the
tree.
Removal
was
more
labor
intensive
requires
more
people,
so
I
mean
you
know.
I
am
you
know,
would
benefit
from
from
more
staff
as
well,
but
I
mean
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
the
room
in
the
budget.
For
that
you
know.
I
Basically,
you
know
the
the
equipment
that
we
would
be
using
would
be
just
to
assure
that
you
know
I
can
keep
the
current
staff
going.
You
know
in
the
event
you
know.
In
the
event,
we
have
a
catastrophic
failure
with
our
current
tree
truck
we're
going
to
be
down
completely
what
about
subcontracting
it?
We
do
already
have
no,
but
more
subcontracting
I
mean
we
fall
into
labor
union
issues
when
we
start
subcontracting
out
too
much
of
our
stuff.
I
mean
right
now.
I
The
stuff
that
we
subcontract
out
doesn't
typically
become
a
union
issue
because
we're
letting
the
contractor
do
work
that
is
to
it
would
be
difficult
for
us
to
do
maybe
a
a
larger
tree.
You
know
that
we
would
have
a
hard
time
falling
in
I'm
cleaning
up
after
so
I
mean
you
know
right
now.
We
don't
have
those
issues.
A
But
see
my
concern
is
this
sitting
at
the
kitchen
table
Kevin
and
Julie:
don't
care
about
our
budgets?
Don't
care
who
we're
subcontracting?
They
don't
care
about
any
of
that
stuff.
They
don't
even
want
to
know
how
we're
putting
it
together
all
they
want.
No
and
I'm
not
blaming
you
I'm
telling
you
I
as
a
I
as
a
as
a
councilman
I'm
willing
to
provide
more
money.
E
E
440-82000,
that's
tree
trimming.
Nothing
else
about
here
have
I
questioned.
We
have
been
consistently
at
82
000
to
90
000
from
the
past,
to
where
we
are
today.
We
are
still
at
the
same
exact
thing
and
every
conversation
that
I've
had
with
Mr
deeb,
with
our
comfort
with
our
DPW
director
have
been
about
trees,
I,
don't
think
I've
called
you
guys
about
anything
in
the
last
two
years.
F
E
Still,
three
years
behind,
we
have
300
people
still
on
this
list
that
continues
to
stand
at
a
standstill
at
300.
I
mean
there
are
trees,
I
believe
means
you
spoke
about
last
October
and
you
know
you
know,
I'm
being
patient,
but
I
swear
to
you.
Yesterday,
I
pulled
up
on
a
house
on
Simone
like
I.
Looked
at
me
and
said
the
tree
that
I
told
you
about
last
year,
I
said
it's
you're
you're
we're
still
at
300
you're
at
299.,
I
I,
don't
know
what
to
say.
E
I
really,
don't
know
what
to
say,
but
what
I
will
tell
you
is
we're
not
going
to
amend
this
budget
we're
going
to
give
more
than
90
000
to
tree
trimming
and
if
it
means-
and
you
said
it
extensively-
if
we
can't
do
the
work,
why
would
you
be?
Why
would
we
be
violating
labor
laws?
If
we
can't
do
the
work,
then
we
should
be
contract.
We
should
be
subcontracting
these
things
out
and
if
anybody
wants
to
take
us
to
court,
please
be
do
it.
I
want
them
to
take
us
to
court.
E
I
will
be
the
first
one
to
say.
Yes,
I
am
the
reason
for
that.
It
is
not
okay
for
the
residents.
Look,
there's
two
things
that
three
things
that
residence
wow
you
want
their
streets.
Looking
nice,
they
want
their
trees
trim
and
want
their
garbage
picked
up
and
safety
I
mean
and
safety,
but
but
when
it
comes
to
the
DPW,
there
are
three
things
at
residence
yeah
that
is
it
and
no
disrespect
to
anybody.
Here.
E
We
no
resident,
let
alone
a
council
member
sitting
up
here,
should
be
waiting
two
years
to
hear
back
on,
F3,
being
trimmed
or
being
cut
down,
no
way,
because
I
know
that
there
was
a
tree
that
was
trimmed
up
because
of
a
violation
of
of
a
road
and
within
30
days.
It's
brought
down
30
days
and
the
tree
was
live
and
it
was
healthy
and
it
was
okay.
E
But
according
to
speak
on
the
DPW
director
in
the
police
department,
they
told
us
that
within
30
days,
if
somebody
felt
like
it
was
obstruction
of
vision-
and
it
was-
you
know-
somebody
got
into
a
crisis
within
those
30
days-
the
city
would
be
liable.
Well
guess
what
people
are
calling
us
about
their
trees?
If
this
tree
falls
on
somebody,
when
does
the
city
become
liable?
They've
reported
to
an
elected
official
who
reported
back
to
DPW.
E
A
A
I
would
personally
look
at
it
drove
by
to
see
it
major
limbs
that
have
fallen
off
but
yeah
in
the
assessment
there,
where
he's
always
being
told
no,
it's
a
healthy
tree
and
that's
concerning
too,
because
then,
if
one
of
those
limbs
falls
on
someone
God
forbid
and
it's
been
documented,
that
cities
checked
it
three
times
and
City
said
it's
healthy
and
it
could
be
because
of
lack
of
enough
laborers.
That's
why
me
personally,
as
I
told
you,
you
know
Julie
and
Kevin
sitting
at
their
kitchen
table,
don't
care
about
our
budget.
A
E
I
E
I
I
E
A
I
think
right
now
we
just
handle
emergencies,
but
what
what
the
councilman
and
myself
are
referencing
is
okay
is,
is
a
resident
should
have
a
right
to
have
just
a
nice
looking
well-trimmed
tree
in
front
of
them.
It
may
not
be
dangerous,
it
may
not
be
falling
off
or
broken
off,
but
it
just
they
just
need
something.
Nice
and
presentable
and
I've
seen
it
in
other
cities.
C
I
want
to
compliment
them
on
the
fact
that
the
last
few
months,
I've
seen
more
done
than
ever
before
and
I
really
and
during
the
storm.
You
guys
were
fantastic.
I
really
appreciate.
What's
been
done
and
I
want
that
to
continue,
but
I
have
two
other
items.
For
instance,
the
emergency
storm
we're
projecting
150
000
we're
recommended
in
a
budget
of
fifteen
thousand.
Why
is
there
such
a
difference?
There.
I
D
I
Could
go
through
a
season
without
any
storm
damage.
We
might
make
a
big
dent
in
our
tree.
Removal
and
trimming
list
I
mean
we
spend
you
know,
probably
a
month
or
two
every
year
on
emergency
storm
I.
Remember
we
had
the
one
last
June,
the
beginning,
100
Year
storm.
It
took
us
like
almost
12
weeks
to
catch
up
and
clean
up
from
that
one,
and
then
we
had
the
the
two
storms
this
winter
here
you
know
which
has
taken
us,
probably
another,
six
or
eight
weeks
to
catch
up
on.
I
I
And
you
know
so:
I
mean
you
know
the
emergency
storm
I
mean
I,
guess
I
put
a
placeholder
in
there
of
15
000.
So
we
have
something
you
know:
I'm
I
mean
I,
don't
want
to
plan
for
Doom
and
Gloom.
But
you
know
I
don't
want
to
soak
my
whole
budget
in
something
like
you
know,
emergency
storm
and
then
not
use
it
I
mean.
Obviously
we
can.
You
know,
reallocate
that
money
and
you
know
do
some
some
budget
transfers
but
I
mean
basically
you
know.
I
C
D
I
Removed
some
of
that
money
that
would
have
been
used
for
you
know
so,
Dearborn
Tree,
which
is
our
contractor.
That
does
a
tree
removal
that
820
line
we
use
them
considerably
during
the
storm
in
June,
so
I
mean
and
when
we
did
use
them
for
the
storm
in
June
I
put
their
money
in
emergency
storm
because
that's
what
it
was
I
mean
this
wasn't.
You
know
something
that
we
use
them
to.
You
know
improve
a
citizen
complaint
or
something
like
that.
I
This
was
something
that
was
uncontrolled
by
us
that
we
had
to
react
to
and
that's
why
I
want
to
keep
track
of
those
funds
in
emergency
storm,
because
I
had
no
choice
but
to
spend
them
there.
They
were
emergencies,
they
were
damaged
trees,
they
were
Twisted
trees,
they
needed
to
be
removed
or
caught
and
trimmed.
I
You
know
so
I
mean
we
would
have
used
more
of
Dearborn
Tree
to
do
standard,
trims
and
removals
for
people
who
have
requested
things
like
that,
but
I
had
to
use
them
a
lot
on
the
emergency
storm,
so
some
of
that
money
spent
in
an
emergency
storm
should
have
or
could
have
gone
to.
You
know
the
removal
line
item
820.,
I.
G
G
K
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K
Page
News
I've
lived
in
the
air,
all
my
life,
our
homes,
particularly
in
the
South,
and
are
close
together,
and
the
perception
is
first
and
foremost
that
you
know
the
city
government
that
there's
some
secret
list
or
you
know
I
I,
there's
a
comical
story
with
the
mayor
when
he
was
campaigning
which
I'll
leave
out,
but
we
need
to
have
this
a
higher
priority.
We've
had
a
whole
history
of
it
was
Dearborn
Tree.
It
was
another
contractor
somebody
that
I
grew
up
with
qtag
Joe
carube
did
it
years
ago.
K
It
it
the
the
particulars
of
it.
That's
for
you
and
the
administration
work
out,
but
the
the
the
the
trees
needed
to
get
trimmed
and-
and
we
just
changed
our
ordinance,
so
we
have
more
trees
that
are
going
to
need
to
be
trimmed.
So
that's
number
one
and
I
agree
with
councilman
Bay,
Doon
and
councilman
Abdullah
I
have
seen
some
further
progress,
but
we
have
to.
We
have
to
do
something,
amongst
other
things,
some
transparency,
some
something
even
if
it's
just
for
administration,
eyes
or
there's
something
on
the
website.
K
So
people
can
feel
there's
some
progress.
I
mean
when
Rick
Snyder
became
Governor.
He
required
he
mandated
all
cities
to
put
their
City
Budget
on
their
website.
There's
there's
something:
I
can
talk
to
Mr
Cooper.
We
can
do
so.
At
least
somebody
can
say:
okay,
my
neighbor
Mr
Jones.
They
they've
been
on
the
list
for
four
years
and
they're
getting
close
you're
following
what
I'm
saying
yeah
director
Conrad,
yes,
okay,.
A
A
Dpw
Services
is
probably
one
of
the
most
important
services
that
most
residents
see
whether
it's
snow
plowing,
whether
it's
you
know
cutting
grass
on
on
city
property.
You
know
tree
trimming
tree
cutting.
These
are
all
services
that
make
the
city
beautiful
and
we
all
want
a
beautiful
city,
obviously,
and
they
all
work
hard
and
then
not
to
mention
the
middle
of
winter
I've
driven
by
you
know
sometimes
and
think.
A
Oh
my
God,
you
know
in
the
middle
of
winter
ice,
storms
and
everything
else
and
they're
underground,
trying
to
fix
something
underground,
and
they
do
a
lot
of
very
important
work
in
the
city
and
I.
I
commend
them
for
that.
But
with
that
being
the
case,
I
was
very
concerned
that
threatening
to
have
a
break
room
and
I've
asked
for
this
a
couple
different
times
and
and
I
know.
It
can't
cost
that
much
where
they
take
their
breaks.
A
I
mean
honestly,
it's
like
a
third
world
country,
there's
just
a
couple
chairs
just
laying
around
right
next
to
a
truck,
and
this
is
where
some
of
our
most
important
employees
sit
to
eat
sit
there
maybe
smoke
a
cigarette
or
whatever
have
a
pop
or
do
whatever
or
just
to
just
take
a
break
and
I
really
think
we
should
have
a
break
room
in
there
for
them.
Is
there
a
reason
why?
A
Because,
even
with
a
lot
of
them
being
handy,
I'm
sure
they
could
even
build
it
out
themselves,
I
can't
see
something
like
that,
and
they
don't
want
nothing
fancy
just
just
four
walls.
It
could
be
open
on
top,
they
don't
care,
but
just
something
nice
and
clean
right.
Now
they
sit
next
to
dust
dirt
trucks,
Oil
Garbage
I,
would
not
sit
there.
If
my
life
depended
on
it
honestly
for
a
break.
J
I
A
I
And
that
last
year
it
was
in
it
was
in
our
our
artifa
allotment
to
do
that,
and
there
was
other
priorities
that
came
up
that
we
had
to
take
that
away
from.
You
know
that
also
had
you
know,
contractor
issues
I
think
we
now
have
a
decent.
We
have
a
connection
on
a
good
design,
build
contractor
that
can
it
doesn't
even
know
it.
I
A
Help
can
I
tell
you
something:
I'm
just
gonna,
be
blind
I'm,
not
blaming
you
I'm,
not
blaming
you
because,
honestly,
shame
in
our
city,
I'm
gonna
say
it
straight
up.
Shame
in
our
city
for
63
years:
that's
our
DPW
or
whatever.
How
long?
However,
long
that
DPW
has
been
around
and
we
still
don't
have
a
break
room
so
whether
it's
20,
30
or
40
years,
and
no
break
room
I'm,
saying
it
straight
up.
Shame
on
our
city!
A
So,
but
there's
a
thing
that
you
know
and
I
know
when
there's
a
will
there's
a
way
right
now,
I
think
the
will
is
not
in
our
department
to
put
that
in
and
I
would
like
say
the
public.
That
should
be
it
these.
These,
these
guys
come
in
from
working
outside
for
10
12
15
hours,
whether
it's
cold
or
whether
it's
hot
just
take
Saddam
to
be
able
to
drink
a
Pepsi.
They
should
not
drink
it.
G
G
E
A
G
A
It
is
a
simple
you
know
what
I
have
Portables
have
Portables
you're
from
Lebanon.
You
ought
to
figure
out
how
to
do
this,
but
let's,
let's
listen
if
any
day
Ali
you
know
for
people
to
have
good
morale,
they
got
to
be
treated
well
and
again,
it's
not
director.
Conrad,
that's
been
around
for
30
years,
David,
okay,
I.
C
I
It's
in
our
plan,
I
mean
in
since
I've
been
there.
I
have
have
allowed
them
to
rearrange
our
stock
and
how
we
saw
our
stock
so
that
they
have
more
room
kind
of
like
a
preparation,
for
you
know
the
the
build
out
of
you
know
what
we're
going
to
do
this
year.
So
you
know
they've
made
improvements
to
that.
I
Put
us
in
a
position
that
you
know
we're
going
to
move
in
a
direction
that
you
know
will
give
them
a
nice
size,
break
room,
a
nice
clean
break
room,
so
I
mean
it's
I,
think
it'll
work,
I
mean
what
room
that
they've
cleared
out
for
us
is
being
used
well
by
them.
So
I
mean
if
you
know
you
wanted
to
use
that.
As
like
our
pilot,
you
know,
okay,
that
worked
really
well.
The
the
space
that
they've
acquired
or
that
they've
you
know
determined
would
be
perfect,
for
them
is
good.
I!
I
I
was
on
it
last
year
and
then
our
fuel
Island,
you
know,
went
down
and
I
had
to
take
I
mean
Tifa,
helped
us
out
considerably
I
mean
to
the
tune
of
like
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
to
to
you
know,
redo
our
underground
storage
tanks
and
and
make
that
certified
again.
So
we
can
use
them,
I
mean
a
portion,
you
know
good
more
and
more
less
than
that
was
allocated
to
a
break
room
before
that
happened.
Okay,.
A
I
K
K
K
You
wouldn't,
but
that
to
Council
chair
Dave
abdullah's
point
they.
There
was
a
big
problem
with
alcohol
amongst
the
directors
and
and
different
people
in
the
DPW.
That
gentleman
in
particular
was
driving
the
street
sweeper
and
think
former
Council
chairs
brand
new
GM
car
Elizabeth
Aegis
and
was
discharged
from
the
city,
so
a
nice
break
room
or
something
where
they
can
go
and
eat
and
not
have
to
go
somewhere.
K
When
I
was
a
court
officer,
there
was
a
rule,
you
couldn't
be
anywhere
where
you,
alcohol
was
served
and
I
had
the
uniform,
and
the
idea
is
that
so
that
I
mean
someone
could
still
walk
in
or
go
have
whatever
in
their
car,
maybe
a
room
with
a
flat
screen
TV
or
for
meetings.
Also,
it's
it's
obvious.
The
facilities
been
there.
K
K
A
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Rejected
is
always
going
to
be
higher
because
they're
probably
basing
it
on
like
like
in
March.
We
get
three
pays
and
they're,
probably
assuming
well
you're,
going
to
go
three
pays
for
the
next
six
months
or
not
because
March
was
just
three
pays
and
then
April
May
June
would
only
be
two
pays,
so
that
kind
of
throws
things
off
too.
Sometimes
the
projected
isn't
always
accurate.
A
Right
so
I
had
a
question
in
regards
to
the
capital
outlay
ask
of
425,
but
then
the
get
is
zero,
which
is
fine,
I
presume,
obviously,
there's
reasoning
behind
there.
But
what
was
that?
What
would
I'm
just
curious,
nothing
else
in
terms
of
a
building
maintenance.
Why
would
you
need
almost
a
half
million
dollars.
I
I
I
That
you
know
could
possibly
come
into
play
for
equipment
wise
as
we
could
possibly
do
with
a
couple
new
lawn
mowers.
But
again
you
know
that's
going
to
be
less
than
forty
thousand
dollars
if
we
buy
a
couple
lawnmowers,
so
you
know,
equipment
wise
I
mean
I,
think
you
know
we
have
a
few
trucks
that
we
could
replace,
but
we've
done
fairly
well.
The
last
couple
years
with
you
know,
replacement
Vehicles.
As
far
as
our
box
truck
our
our
stake
truck,
we've
got
a
couple.
I
You
know
new
snow
plows
from
them
for
them
for
the
last
couple
years,
so
I
mean
it.
You
know
we're
in
pretty
decent
shape
for
equipment
wise
that
we
use
to
do
our
jobs.
But
you
know
again,
we
need
you
know.
Part
of
this
Capital
Equipment
is,
you
know,
keep
the
air
running
in
here
to
keep
the
heat
running
in
here.
I
You
know,
there's
just
there's.
These
are
old
buildings
and
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
come
up
so
I
mean
some
of
the
you
know.
Other
departments
like
the
library
they
you
know
put
in
their
budget.
You
know
which
is
kind
of
our
responsibility.
Is
the
rough
maintenance
I
mean
you
know,
they'll
put
roof
repairs
in
theirs.
They'll
put,
you
know,
sidewalk
repairs
or
you
know
that
they
have
some
items
in
theirs,
but
this
is
primarily
the
stuff
that
you
know
isn't
part
of
other
departments.
K
K
F
D
K
K
K
K
I
K
I
L
I
More
of
these,
or
that
I
mean
you
know
again,
I
mean
I.
Don't
really
have
a
good
grasp,
because
I've
only
been
here
for
I
haven't
even
been
here
two
years
yet
and
since
I've
been
here,
I've
never
had
a
full
complement
of
Staff
in
any
of
my
departments,
so
I
mean
I,
don't
even
really
know
what
they're
capable.
A
I
A
Know
but
I
would
welcome,
but
again
that's
the
most
important
service.
That's
provided
to
the
residents
that
they
see
at
the
kitchen
table
see
like
the
residence
controller,
no
offense,
you
know
they
don't
see
the
controllers
and
they
don't
see
treasures
and
they
maybe
they
barely
see
the
water
departments
and
other
than
the
bill,
but
you're.
What
you're
you
and
your
ladies
and
gentlemen,
do
is
what
Joe
public
sees
every
day
in
terms
of
their
home.
A
A
H
J
I
Is
basically,
you
know
our
Appropriations
for
our
street
improvements?
Basically,
you
know
it
I
followed
in
suit
with
what
we've
done
in
previous
years.
We
don't
really.
The
revenues
aren't
increasing
to
the
point
where
we
can
really
change
things
too.
Much
so
I
mean
we're
pretty
much
falling
in
suit
with
what
we've
done
for
the
past
three
years
as.
A
I
J
I
I
mean
that's
not
that
much
I
mean
a
half.
A
million
is
not
right
that
much
additional
to
and
again
that
that's
projected
you
know,
I
mean
if
people
buy
less
fuel
that
won't
be
there
so
I
mean
you
know,
I
think
there's
a
little
bit
of
a
of
a
buffer
in
there
about
the
amount
that
you
know.
That
projected
increases
do.
A
M
So
Council,
council
president,
so
what
we
have
in
addition
to
Pacer
Pacer
is
just
a
tool
right,
so
we
get
an
idea.
We
also
have
just
in
general,
for
everyone's
benefit
the
the
work.
The
pavement
work
consists
of
three
separate
things.
One
is
and
I've
heard
comments
regarding
sidewalks
comma.
Regarding
sectioning,
the
pavement
comment
regarding
Street
Paving.
These
are
two
different
things.
So
in
general
there
are
maintenance
work
which
means
sections
like
we
did
last
year,
both
on
the
north
and
south
of
the
street.
M
M
An
average
rating
for
a
street
right,
so
what
we
we
broke,
this
into
is
three
different
categories:
sectioning,
meaning
that
your
street
is
good,
but
you
have
some
places
that
need
to
be
gotten
removed
and
that's
what
we're
doing
now.
Full
replacement
is
obviously
a
Sheehan
and
and
that's
not
a
candidate
for
sectioning,
because
it'll
be
more
expensive
to
take
one
piece
at
a
time
and
replace
it
versus
the
entire
run.
M
That's
full
replacement,
that's
a
capital,
so
we're
taking
that
now
and
breaking
it
down,
and
then
you've
got
the
sidewalk
and
smaller
issues
that
are
due
to
water
main
break
on
a
perfectly
new
pavement.
But
you
break
the
payment
to
get
to
the
water
main,
so
you
have
to
repair
it
right.
So
these
are
the
categories
that
we
work
on.
M
M
Far
exceeds
our
budget,
so,
if
I
take,
if
I
take
and
that's
to
put
it
mildly,
so
if
I
take
major
streets,
category
I
have
needs
on
the
replacement
that
is
twice
or
three
times
my
budget.
So
what
we
did
is
we
took
the
worst
and
we
broke
them
down
into
a
five-year
plan
so
and
and
the
worst
starts
in
24,
then
we
go
on
to
25
26
and
we
broke
them
down
and
we
put
those
in
categories.
M
That's
on
the
phone
replacement,
that's
capital
side,
the
sectioning
category,
two,
the
sectioning
is
the
stuff
we
drive
and
we
mark
them
and
we
have
a
contract
in
place
that
goes
out
and
take
a
section
and
replace
it
that
we
did.
You
know
throughout
the
city
this
year
we're
going
to
start
early.
So
last
year
we
had
an
issue
with
supplies
and
it
was
Labor
and
Supply.
So
we
were
late.
We
got
a
late
start
this
year,
we're
going
to
start
as
soon
as
the
plants
open,
because
I
have
a
contract
in
place.
F
M
Going
to
start
very
soon,
the
last
category
would
be
and
the
work
that
is
related
to
water
main
breaks,
which
wasn't
really
we
didn't
plan
for
it.
It
just
happened
so
I
have
I
drive
the
city
constantly
and
I
see
things
that
the
pavement
was
fine
until
we
had
a
water
main
break
which
then
busted
it
so
now.
I
need
to
include
that,
so
the
three
categories
are
running
hand
in
hand.
In
addition,
we're
coordinating
all
the
work
between
departments
so
sidewalk
we
have
you
guys
just
approved
one
contract
for
the
entire
city.
M
So
that's
that's
wonderful!
So
now
we
have
one
company
we
go
to
any
department
or
anyone
who
notices
that
it
goes
through
it.
Next
piece
is
the
sectioning
which
we
also
have
a
contract,
we're
going
to
use
it
fully.
The
only
unknown
now
is
the
budget,
how
much
money
we
have
approved
in
the
budget,
and
then
the
plans
haven't
opened
yet
so
I'm
looking
at
the
cost
of
material,
because
if
your
budget
is
fixed
and
the
cost
of
material
increases,
you're
doing
less
work.
Obviously
because
it's
a
unit
price
contract,
we
pay
extra
square
yard.
M
So
we're
working
on
that
now,
what
we
needed
is
the
budget,
but
we
do
have
a
real
good
plan
and
then
we
collectively,
in
fact,
just
came
in
today
included
all
the
stuff
we
have
and
we
broke
them
into
five
years,
so
you're
one
year
to
year
three.
If
we
get
more
money
as
as
Bob
indicated,
you
know
through
acts
51
or
whatever.
If
we
are
lucky,
we
get
lower
unit
price
than
we
expected.
We
might
be
able
to
do
some
of
the
work
that
is,
you
know,
pushed
till
next
year.
M
F
E
Mr,
deep,
yes,
I'm,
so
sorry,
thank
you.
So
much
and
I
don't
mean
to
interrupt
you
Council
chair,
but
my
question
to
you
is
I
know.
Last
year
we
we
said
that
we're
going
to
hold
on
to
that
money
so
that
we
can
do
bigger
larger
products.
That's
more
visible
to
the
idea.
Remember
that
last
year
that
money
we
didn't
end
up
using
last
year
sure
soda
may
have
been
an
additional
2.5
million.
No.
M
E
But
we
were
told
we
were
not
going
to
do
any
work
on
roads
during
our
last
budget
hearing
and
from
last
year's
work.
We
said
we
were
not
spending
this
money
because
if
we
only
did
half
a
street,
it
wouldn't
be,
it
wouldn't
make
sense
spending
2.5
million
dollars
on
just
doing
half
of
a
street.
We're
gonna
save
that
we're
gonna
double
it
up
for
this
fiscal
year.
So
here
we
are
this
fiscal
year
and
no
work
was
done
with
that
2.5
million.
E
I
We
did
not
do
any
construction
work
where
we
did
a
complete
Street
replacement
with
storm
drains
and
everything
else.
That
was
the
work
that
we
said
we
weren't
going
to
do.
Last
year
we
were
going
to
do
any
Street
Replacements
last
year.
What
what
we
did
do
with
that
money
is?
We
did
a
considerable
amount
of
sectioning.
I
E
I
I
You
are
correct
that
you
know
you
were
told
that
we
weren't
going
to
do
any
construction
projects,
but
I
guess
what
you
weren't
told
last
time
is
that
we
were
going
to
do
a
larger
than
normal
amount
of
pavement.
Replacing
and
Pharma
sectioning
so
I
mean
you
know,
typically
the
DPW
most
of
our
sectioning
stuff.
That's
done
through
us
is,
you
know,
replacing
slabs
that
sunk
because
of
a
catch,
Basin
failure,
maybe
a
storm
pipe
that
that
you
know,
has
separated
and
needed
repair
as
well.
So
we
replaced
pavement.
I
But
what
we
did
this
time
is
we
found
we
took
sections
of
pavement
that
were
bad
without
any
damage
from
you
know,
storm
sewers
or
anything
else,
and
you
know
we
went
in
and
repaired
those.
You
know
many
of
those
were
you
know
high
volume,
complaints
from
the
residents
you
know,
I
think
you
know.
Waddell
was
one
of
them
that
we
had
a
considerable
amount
of
complaints,
and
you
know
so
I
mean
we
kind
of
did
a
lot
of
work.
There
was
a
lot
of
areas
that
you
know.
I
We
made
considerable
improvements
that
were
what
I
would
consider
a
high
maintenance
activities
for
us.
As
far
as
like
we
did
a
considerable
section
of
Annapolis
between
Inkster
and
Beech
daily
that
you
know
we
used
to
spend
a
considerable
amount
of
time
out
there.
Coal
patching,
because
you
know
the
road
was
in
poor
condition,.
E
I
A
major
construction,
so
you
know,
rather
than
do
a
street
from
you
know
one
end
of
the
block
to
the
other
end
of
the
block,
improving
all
the
storm
sewers.
You
know
putting
new
Drive
approaches
in
like
we've
done
on
some
other
streets,
I
mean
I'm
thinking
around
here.
I
think
we
did
Fat.
They
did
Fenton
years
before
I
got
here
in.
I
So
I
mean
yeah.
You
people
who've
been
here
longer
than
me,
will
know
which
ones
we've
done.
You
know
prayers
to
meet
previous
to
me
getting
here,
but
I
think
the
last
one
they
did
when
I
was
here
was
I
think
they
were
just
finishing
up.
Lila
Lane
when
I
arrived
I
mean
that
may
have
been
the
last
major
reconstruct
that
we've
done
so
I
mean
you
know,
that's
what
you
know.
I
N
H
I
Think
we
made
you
know:
I
wasn't
I'll
have
to
say
when
Ollie
presented
me
with
the
idea
of
doing
a
sectioning,
I
wasn't
really
in
favor
of
it,
but
I
think
we
did
a
lot
of
beneficial
work
for
the
residents.
You
know
with
this
sectioning
program.
You
know
it's
obviously
not
a
path.
We'd
want
to
go
down
every
year,
because
then
we'd
never
do
any.
You
know
major
reconstructs,
but
I
mean
it
I
admit
it
is
a
good
use
of
our
streets
that
come
to.
A
Mind
I
know
Crestwood
phone
property.
There
I
gave
you
that
streak
before
Ollie
and
then
the
street
that's
north
and
south
and
like
not
on
the
street
in
the
east
east
of
it
no
east
of
it
connected
to
Crestwood
both
of
those
have
Pebbles
and
rocks
flying
all
over
the
place.
Every
time
he
drives
through
there.
So.
M
A
M
M
M
I
We
have
some
yeah,
it
is
it's
bad.
You
can
cut
it
out
and
put
in
a
patch,
but
the
cancer
is
going
to
keep
growing
in.
You
know
you
basically
just
buy
yourself
a
couple
years
until
the
piece
that
you
didn't
remove
goes
bad.
You
know
so
I
mean
it
it
it's
it's
kind
of
a
tough
pill
to
swallow,
but
you
know
it
to
a
certain
extent.
You
have
to
tell
the
residents
he
you
know
we
have
to
let
it
get
a
little
worse
before
we
can
do
a
full
replacement
in
in
you
know,.
I
A
I
I
guess
you
know
on
when
it
comes
to
the
water
and
sewer
budget.
I
mean
I
primarily
rely
on
plant
Moran
to
put
this
together
for
us,
and
this
is
kind
of
their
projections
of
where
they
think
we
need
to
be
with
water
and
sewer
I
mean
they
looking
through
it.
It
looks
pretty
much
on
par
with
how
things
have
been
in
the
past.
I
think.
Maybe
a
few
of
the
things
that
I
might
have
asked
for
are
some
of
our
material
expenses,
like
our
our
brass
clamps
and
fittings,
and
things
like
that.
I
A
I
have
two
questions
on
that:
okay
and
I.
Don't
know
if
you
want
to
address
the
water
department,
the
water
billing
right
now
or
or
you
want
to
do
that
separately
or
how
are
we
doing
that?
Okay?
So,
let's
start
with
the
first
one.
Let's
start
with
the
easy
one
I'll
make
it
easy
honestly
I
like
to
start
with
the
hard
ones,
I
start
with
the
easy
ones
so
in
water,
billing,
I
I
feel
personally
in
terms
of
customer
service
to
our
residents.
A
We've
not
been
providing
it
and
the
reason
I
feel
it.
We've
not
been
providing.
It
is
not
because
the
ladies
and
gentlemen
that
work
there
are
not
given
that
they're
all
it's
way
way
way
less
employees
than
it
needs
than
it
needs
so
you've
got.
For
example,
if
somebody
needs
a
final
water
bill,
they
got
a
two-week
wait.
They'll
only
be
done
once
every
two
weeks.
A
If
somebody
wants
to
speak
with
somebody
in
there,
you
could
call
I
get
resident
complaints
all
the
time
you
call
you
know,
ring
and
ring
and
ring
and
ring,
and
it's
not
because
they're
not
picking
up
the
phones,
because
what
they
don't
know
is
I
went
in
there
to
talk
to
them
a
couple
different
times.
Not
only
have
they
told
me,
but
I
personally
was
watching
them,
they
didn't
know,
I
was
watching
them.
It
sounds
want
to
see.
You
know,
because
you
know
a
devil's
advocate.
A
You
know
in
your
mind
you
think
maybe
somebody's
just
not
picking
up
the
phones.
It
was
not
a
case
of
people,
not
picking
up
the
phones.
It
was.
The
phones
are
ringing
off
the
hook.
It's
just
one
person
to
be
able
to
handle
the
front
desk
and
all
the
calls
that
come
in
that
to
me
does
not
have
enough
laborers
in
their
ladies
or
gentlemen
laborers
in
there.
What
is
the
solution
to
that
is
technology?
A
Possibly
a
solution
is
maybe
the
new
meters
coming
in
maybe
you're,
going
to
make
things
much
simpler
from
what
I've
been
told
by
Sheila,
but
it
we
definitely
meet
in
my
personal
business
opinion.
If
you
want
to
call
it,
we
need
more
employees
in
there
because
when
when,
when
residents
call-
and
their
calls
are
not
being
answered,
that's
about
the
worst
customer
service
that
you
could
have
when
nobody's
able
to
answer
it.
D
F
I
So
I
mean
yeah,
we
get,
you
know,
calls
for
ordinance
at
our
place.
We
get
calls
for
buildings
at
our
place.
You
know
the
only
place
they
never
make.
Mistakes
with
is
the
police
department
and
the
fire
department.
We
don't
get
any
of
their
calls,
but
I
mean
any
other
department
in
the
city.
I
mean
I
think
when
people
call
a
number
and
they
don't
get
anybody
to
answer
the
phone
they
just
say.
Well,
they
didn't
pick
up.
A
The
phone
I'll
try
the
assessors
but
for
full
transparency.
On
my
end,
a
huge
pet
peeve
of
mine,
I
hate
these.
You
know
for
the
so-and-so
press,
one
for
so-and-so
press
two
and
then,
when
you
press
two,
then
for
this
press
one
for
this
press.
Three,
they
press
three
and
for
that
press,
seven,
I,
I,.
D
D
A
E
A
A
D
Well,
the
other
issue
is
that
they've
been
we've
had
people
that
have
been
left
that
have
gone
on
FMLA
and
then
we've
had
people
that
have
left
that
department,
and
then
you
know
it's
that
whole
transition
of
trying
to
get
somebody
else
in
there
to
retrain
them,
and
we've
had
two
people
on
FMLA.
Unfortunately,
you
know
it
was
a.
You
know
the
emergency
situation
so
that
again
trickles
the
whole
thing
that
goes
around
the.
A
A
We
got
to
pass
it
on,
but
then
we
have
a
projection
here
or
or
an
ask
or
call
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
for
an
increase
of
5.8
percent
on
one
and
it's
eight
5.29
increase
on
one
and
then
on
the
second
one,
that's
for
sewage
and
then
the
second
one
is
eight
point:
five,
four
percent
for
an
average
of
give
or
take
seven
and
some
change
percent
on
people's
water
bill.
So
there's
two
challenges
with
that.
A
One
one
challenge
is
when
we
get
complaints
on
water
bills
and
I
get
them
as
a
realtor
myself
as
a
real
estate
agent
and
I
I
right
away,
tell
people
in
to
look
at
their
water
bill
because
sometimes
it's
coming
in
for
a
90-day
period,
because
we're
short
staffed
again
so
people
are
used
to
for
us
they're
used
to
a
60-day
period
water
bill.
Then
they
get
a
90-day
period,
water
bill.
They
don't
notice
that
there's
a
difference
in
the
number
of
days
and
suddenly
they're
upset
why
their
bill
is
so.
A
A
M
Step
back
in
addition
to
what
you
said:
yes,
the
high
view
is
we
buy
water
from
Great
Lake,
we
send
our
Shores
to
two
different
entities
and
we
have
to
capture
that
cost
and
and
the
users
pay
right.
Well,
that's
the
high
view.
In
addition
to
that,
you
also
have
the
the
fact.
Water
meters
are
a
small
part
of
it.
You
have
a
system,
a
billing
system
like
currently
and
we're
working
very
closely
with
this
lady
to
try
to
so
take
stores.
M
Sewers
are
much
higher
in
cost
sewer
disposal
than
water
supply,
so
sewers
is
not
going
to
be
impacted
by
your
water
meter
right,
that's
your
source,
so
the
sewers
are
not
metered.
How
do
we
pay
for
Source
right
I'm
on
the
committee
for
Dua
down
river
utilities,
so
we
have
two
parts
of
the
city,
one
part,
and
it
took
me
a
little
while
to
figure
out
because
it
was
it
it.
M
You
know
I've
only
been
for
the
city
a
little
over
two
years,
so
I
don't
know
what
we
did
in
the
last
60
some
years,
but
we
didn't
have
a
system
that
tracked
these
things
we're
creating
a
system
example.
So
how
do
you
pay
for
your
sewers
to
the
two
entries?
That's
not
me!
So
you
know
the
South
End
Dartmouth
South
goes
to
Downriver
and
we
we
we,
the
the
city
of
Dearborn
Heights,
along
with
13
other
communities,
12
plus
the
airport
communities.
F
M
M
M
They're
mortgage
payments
I
mean
it
they're,
broken
up
and
divided
among
the
communities.
In
addition,
operating
costs
and
a
major
Improvement,
so
we're
currently
doing
major
improvements
to
to
that
plant,
all
of
which
will
be
spread
and
added
to
the
users
of
that
plant,
we're
one
of
them.
Now.
How
do
they
divide
it?
They
divide
it
based
on
your
percentage
of
use
of
that
system,
so
they
take
the
13
communities
plus
the
airport
and
say:
okay
I
need
to
capture
your
flow.
M
So
if
I
get
a
100
gallon,
how
many
gallons
of
it
came
from
Dearborn
Heights,
they
rely
on
Austria
report
that
we
rely
on
plant
Moran
to
come
up
with
these
combinations.
So
I
went
and
researched
all
that
because
I'm
not
really
sure
how
they
come
up
with
these
numbers.
We
came
up
with
a
suggestion
and
I
believe
this
lady
just
finished
coding
these
things
code,
the
users
in
the
particular
area.
M
So
if
I
have
38
000
and
some
change
meters,
how
many
of
them
are
flowing
to
this
place
and
how
many
are
going
to
Wayne
County,
because,
prior
to
the
creation
of
the
Down
River
utility,
all
the
sewers
went
to
Wayne
County
in
one
way
or
another,
because
it
was
Wayne,
County,
North
or
South.
So
we
didn't
have
to
worry
about
it,
but
when
that
Utility
Authority
was
created,
someone
on
our
end
should
have
done
what
we're
doing
now.
Absolutely
you
know
to
say,
look
guys.
M
You
know
we
now
need
to
Spread
spread
the
split,
and
then
the
cost
of
these
two
entities
are
not
the
same,
so
you've
got
cost
going
to
the
Rouge
Valley,
so
SDS
Rouge
Valley
solar
Disposal
system,
which
is
approximately
60
percent
or
so
of
the
city,
and
then
you've
got
the
down
river.
Both
are
different.
You
need
to
track
them
that
way.
Now,
unfortunately,
yeah
I'm
an
engineer
I'm,
not
an
accountant
right,
but
I'm
being
I'm,
acting
like
it
now,
because
I
had
to
track
it.
So.
D
M
M
Bond
we
put
that
mortgage
payment
on
sewer
water
and
sewer
rate,
so
to
me,
and
and
so
that
also
added
to
your
debt
service
when
it
comes
to
billing,
because
you
need
to
capture
all
the
stuff
so
when,
when
plant
Moran,
look
at
all
this
they're
giving
you
what
your
rates
should
be
to
cover
all
these
expenses,
because
you
need
you
sold
the
bond
and
the
bonds
were
called
revenue
bonds
as
opposed
the
general
obligation,
so
I
checked
with
other
communities
Dearborn,
so
Dearborn
dead
CSO.
How
did
you
pay
for
the
CSO?
M
M
What
we
need
to
do
now
is
clean
up
our
our
process
find
out
what
we
didn't
do
back
when
that
plant
was
created
and
the
authority
was
created
and
what
we
could,
what
we,
what
we
agreed
to
pay
for,
and
then
re-look
at
all
this.
This
is
what
we're
currently
doing.
The
first
step
is
we
coded
all
of
our
stuff.
So
what
I
need
to
do
now
in
the
next
short
period
of
time
as.
D
M
M
The
only
the
only
part
that
might
help
us
is
if
we
find
out
that
we're
actually
overpaying,
then
we
we
can
take
that
money
out
of
that
increase
and
reduce
it.
So,
ultimately,
what
we
need
to
do
is
find
a
venue.
So
if
this
is
capital
Improvement,
if
the
work
associated
with
a
plant
is
capital
Improvement,
we
shouldn't
have
had
that
being
paid
out
of
our
water
sewer
rate.
That's
my
opinion
that
you
know
do
what
other
cities
did
they
made
a
general
obligation.
F
K
Good
to
give
lip
service
always
we
should
have
lower
water
bills,
but
there's
the
van
right
there
and
you've
been
with
the
city
like
two
years
and
because
what
he's
doing
is
he's
auditing
the
numbers
that
no
nobody
else
in
the
system
is
that
the
Down
River
facility
was.
It
was
all
Wayne
County,
Wayne
County,
when
they
wanted
to
balance
the
budget
just
like
they
wanted
to
sell
Warren
Valley
yeah,
they
said
well
we're
going
to
sell
it
to,
and
then
we
would
have
been
a
captive
audience
they
could
have.
K
F
K
F
K
M
No
I'm
at
a
mortgage
but
but
the
reason
that's
the
true
cause
of
why
our
rates
are
high.
It's
not
that
we
buy
and
sell
absolutely
we
buy
the
water
and
sell
it
to
Citizens,
but
there
is
more
to
it
that
is
driving
that
cost
higher,
and
if
you
wanted
to
solve
it,
you
need
to
go
out
there
and
and
determine
what
these
things
are.
So
first
thing
we
do
is
don't
commit
to
any
more
of
these
like
csos
I,
don't
want
to
commit
to
any
more
csos.
M
F
M
F
M
E
So
that's
the
next
thing,
so
I
I,
real,
quick
I
know
that
we've
talked
about
for
the
last
two
and
a
half
years
about
these
water
meters,
water
meters,
well,
I,
just
I'm,
just
gonna
again,
I'm
I'm
telling
you
for
the
last
year,
I
stayed
quiet
up
here
and
I
listened
to
what
everyone
had
to
say
and
I
said:
okay,
we're
going
to
give
them
a
year.
We
were
here
one
year
with
the
water
hang
out,
Mr
deep.
E
E
M
E
M
M
A
E
Way,
I
get
there.
I
swear
to
God
I
get
that
man,
but
we
were,
we
were
told,
close
to
nine
million
dollars
to
St
to
to
change
all
of
our
water
meters.
Okay.
We
we
said
this
on
on
the
record,
not
once
not
twice,
not
three,
but
at
least
five
to
six
times
guys.
Look.
We
said
this
I
agree
and
we
cannot
come
back
and
look
and
say:
well,
we
don't
got
money
for
it.
You.
M
E
M
If
you
don't
have
money
to
replace
them,
that
Bond
money
is
depleted
and
on
Project
three,
and
if
you
put
a
project
out
first,
the
9
million
is
now
12.
and
and
and
you're
currently
running,
that
25
million
that
you
sold
for
five
project
is
running
out
at
three,
so
you
can
put
a
project
out
on
the
street,
find
12
million
dollars
and
you
see
that's
that's
reality.
I,
don't
I
can't
take
credit
for
what
happened
in
the
past.
You
did
an
estimate.
The
council
chair
is
right.
It
was
pre-covered,
the
prices
came.
E
For
for
an
hour,
so
so
you're
telling
me
if
things
run
up
astronomically
by
10
million
dollars
and
that's
what
that's
realistically,
what
it'd
be
if
we
broke
down
five
projects
on
25
million
dollars,
you're
telling
me
we've
overspent
my
10
million
dollars,
guys.
That's
that's
a
lot
of
money.
10
million
dollars
is
a
lot
of
money
and
I'm
going
up
on
labor
and
material
10
million
dollars.
That's
10
million
dollars
is
not
something
just
you
throw
around.
E
E
We
got,
we
have
arpa
money,
we
have
our
money
and-
and
you
know
what
I'm
not
gonna,
tell
you
guys.
I'm
gonna,
be
honest.
I'm
gonna
be
vocal
on
this.
We
are
not
going
to
tell
residents
you're
going
to
get
a
new
water
meter,
we're
gonna
figure
out.
What's
going
on
now
we're
going
to
say
that
hey,
you
know
what
we
need
to
really
look
at
the
algorithm
of
where
the
piping
is
going
and
where
we're
paying
that's
going
to
lower
our,
and
that
is
not
guaranteed.
E
E
So
so
what
is
what
is
the
ultimate
goal
right
now?
We
don't
have
the
money
to
do
it,
we're
not
getting
new
water
meters,
we're
still
looking
at
how
these
things
are
being
amortized.
What
is
the
ultimate
goal?
Just
keep
raising
our
water
eats
on
the
residents?
Absolutely
not.
That
is
not
going
to
be
the
goal
under
at
least
while
I'm.
Here.
M
All
right,
so
here's
here's
the
the
plan,
so
we
have
a
plan
underway
currently
in
lieu
of
adding
money
to
that
that
service
in
lieu
of
going
another.
With
this
we
applied
to
srf
funding
the
reason
for
that
application,
which
is
why
we
have
that
public
meeting
on
the
25th.
That
public
meeting
is
Sri
funding
to
fund
to
get
State
money
to
replace
one
of
the
stuff
that
we
were
going
to
do
Under
the
bond.
M
If
I
get
the
state
money
end
of
this
year,
I
will
do
this,
then
the
what
remains
of
that
Bond
I
will
shift
from
there
to
do
the
water
meters.
That's
the
plan,
so
I
will
get
to
do
what
I
promise
to
do
without
going
to
my
citizens
an
increasing
rate,
the
state
already.
We
present
that
to
the
state.
They
love
the
project.
So
if
I
get
the
state's
money
to
pay
part
of
what
want
then
I
would
be
fixing
that
25
million
dollar
mass
and
then
say
now.
M
I
have
enough
money
to
do
the
rest
of
the
projects
without
increasing
anything.
That's
the
plan.
25Th.
The
state
already
gave
us
preliminary
approval.
They
said
there
is
a
great
project:
can
it
it's
qualified
that
is
under
a
Clean,
Water
Act,
because
we
qualify
and
then
we
also
have
Drinking
Water
Act,
which
we
also
applied
for
that's
due
in
another
month,
we're
going
after
sources
of
funds
outside
from
our
our
rates
and
and
budget,
and
this
is
something
that
I
just
got
this
guy
to
to
do
roads.
M
We,
the
city,
has
never
done
any
kind
of
a
a
search
for
possible
funding
outside
of
our
budget
and
which
is
totally
crazy,
roadway
we
always
paid
for.
Why
didn't
you
go
after
funding
for
roadways?
I,
don't
know
we
are
now
so
water
sewers.
We
should
have
been
after
the
state.
The
state
paid
for
all
the
lead
water
line,
replacement
Dearborn
got
all
100
paid
for
by
the
state.
We
never
got
any.
We
never
asked
for
any
so.
F
E
This
is
my
frustration
because
I
we
all
including
you,
everyone
in
this
room,
owes
it
to
the
residents
right,
and
you
know
this
is
news.
This
is
new
to
me,
I
I
didn't
know
we
were
moving
forward
with
our
with
with
having
or
we
don't
have
the
budget
now
for
the
water
meters.
I
didn't
know
that
and
I
know
you're
saying
you're
presenting
to
the
state,
but
that's
that's
not
a
guarantee.
It.
M
Is
it
is
because
they
do
it
they
see.
State
revolving
fund
is
something
that
the
state,
so
just
like
the
roadway
we
are
entitled
to
some
of
these
things.
The
feds
pay,
the
the
states.
The
state
pays,
the
county,
the
county-based
communities.
You
have
never
asked
for
a
for
assistance
ever
so
now
we
are
trying
to
get
ourselves
on
the
radar.
So
we
are
part
of
these
things.
M
So
when
we
go
to
the
state,
why
why
didn't
we
go
to
the
state
for
srf
funding
for
clean
water
and
and
drinking
water
before
we
sold
the
bonds?
Well,
that
was
before
my
time
I'm
trying
to
fix
something
that
was
already
started
that
was
in
place.
It
was
handed
to
me.
It
was
still
has
John
sell
me
on
it
when
it
was
approved
by
Council
and
when
I
came
to
the
city.
The
money
was
already
in
the
bank.
We
sold
all
the
bonds,
we
put
the
money
in
the
bank
go.
M
M
G
N
C
C
M
M
C
D
D
K
Go
ahead
and
again
an
excellent
excellent
job,
Mr
D
directory,
because
we
had
I
spent
many
an
hour
away,
both
plant
Moran
and
Phil
McKenna's
anyway,
we're
unique
aren't
we
that
we
straddle
two
different,
even
different,
so
we're
is
it
40
percent,
because
the
former
mayor
addressed
the
soul
was
on
the
the
do
and
then
it
was
19.
I.
Remember
we
all
talked
him
Kurt
high
C
or
the
city.
It
was
19..
Now
it's.
M
14.,
so
so
so
until
we
have
the
Coating
in
place,
no
one
ever
coded
these
areas.
So
it's
an
estimate.
If
you
look
at
the
map,
you
know
2080,
but
but
we
never
really
measured
them,
because
sewers
are
not
measured
right.
There
is
no
meter
on
your
Source
there's
meters
on
the
water,
but
not
on
the
source.
So.
M
Yeah,
when
you
go
to
pay,
let's
say
down
river,
they
will
ask
you
to
self-report.
You
know
you
self-report,
how
much
water
you
used
and
then
they
charge
you
a
silver
for.
So
we
already
got
them
in
my
last
two
years
to
agree
to
not
give
us
bills
on
a
monthly
basis.
So
what
they're
doing
now
they're
measuring
there
we
give
them
a
winter
average.
The
idea
was
so
I
don't
have
to
pay
for
irrigating.
You
know
water,
you
know
water,
your
grass
or
fill
the
pool,
so
they
agree.
K
Thank
you
because
we
went
through
years
ago.
I.
Don't
think
any
of
this
we're
here
to
say
maybe
Ray
musket
with
the
library
system
we
pulled
out
of
it.
We
had
to
pull
out
of
the
Wayne
County
library
system
and
several
other
communities
did
forget
that
it
was
libraries
in
that
water.
But
it's
it's
a
bigger
entity,
we'll
talk
after,
but
the
punch
line
and
councilwoman
Breyer
mentioned
Highland
Park
yep
when
I
was
a
State,
reperto
Lansing.
K
You
know
the
emergency
manager,
Kevin
Orr,
the
city
of
Detroit
Highland
Park,
which
is
a
municipality
in
the
city
of
Detroit,
the
they're
they're.
You
know
slow
on
paying
their
bills,
okay,
but
that
the
the
chapter,
nine,
which
was
Kevin
Orr
and
all
that
money
spent,
because
the
end
result
was
that
I
I
could
see
it.
Nobody
did
any
business
anymore
with
city
of
Detroit,
the
vendors,
all
they
knew
is
they
went
bankrupt
and
they
got
a
nose
and
they're
they're
not
getting
their
money.
K
M
K
F
M
Then
they
took
out
loans
to
do
the
Improvement,
because
the
place
was
a
dump
literally
oh
yeah,
I
I,
remember
I
was
with
a
county
back
then
so
I
know
how
it
was
awesome.
We
toured
it
with
yeah,
but
you
tore
it
now
and
you
see
the
difference.
So
the
company
that
was
created
and
the
authority
was
was
good
except
all
of
that
cost
money
right.
So
they
took
out
loans
to
improve
the
place
and
then
you've
got
the
operating
cost.
K
M
Of
these
debt
services-
and
they
all
have
a
timeline
and
schedule
so
when
I
put
these
together,
I
put
again
I'm,
not
an
accountant,
you're,
probably
a
different
way
of
doing
that.
But
I
put
the
original
bond
that
we
sold
our
debt
service
from
plant
Moran
grows.
You
know
what
years
and
then
these
services,
so
all
three
of
them,
are
stapled
together
and
I.
Keep
that
in
my
mind
and
my
thing
why
that's
right.
F
M
K
K
Plant
Marine
gives
us
a
recommendation
right
and
in
the
past,
councils
have
voted
to
say
well
we're
going
to
lower
25
and
then
what
happened
was
we
never
actually
enacted
that
budget
Council,
chair,
Abdullah
and
I
were
the
two
deciding
votes
to
get
the
bond
for
the
improve
the
meters
which
you
know
we
ran
out
of
vote,
but
the
so?
What
you're
telling
us
we're
listening
is
the
the
recommended
number
for
the
increase.
K
M
When,
when
plant
Moran
and
I
get
a
copy
of
that,
when
plant
Moran
does
their
calculation,
what
they
do
is
they
get
these
this
information
from
our
suppliers?
So
they
know
so
it's
not
like
you
know,
suppliers
saying
give
me
eight
percent.
They
get
all
of
that
and
find
out.
So
the
eight
percent
is
the
result
of
all
these
charges
right,
so
operating
costs,
The,
Debt,
Service,
the
you
know
your
mortgages
and
and
so
on,
and
so
on
and
and
the
balloon
payments
right.
M
So
they
look
at
them
and
say:
okay,
so
that
mortgage
is
not
going
to
last
forever
right,
so
they
say
Okay,
so
the
for
that
mortgage.
When
does
it
drop
off,
so
they
look
at.
They
say,
okay,
so
in
28
that
that
mortgage
drops
off
so
that
means
I
lower.
My
you
lower
your
bill
to
me
by
the
cost
to
offset
that
payment,
so
I'm
doing
the
same
thing.
I'm
actually
doing
the
same
in
my
projection
before
we
we
before
we
blindly
agree
to
to.
M
To
Eagle
and
say
I'm
going
to
sell
bond
to
go
pay
it
for
it.
No
no
I
I
say
my
problem
and
I
gave
copies
to
Eagle
because
they
argue
with
me.
You
know.
Oh
you
guys.
That's
mandated!
You
have
to
follow
the
law
and
I'm
like
yeah
I
know,
but
we
go
broke
so
I
will
follow
the
law
when
my
debt
service
drops
in
28
or
32.
If
I
drop
this
by
a
hundred
thousand
I
can
pick
up.
Another
hundred
thousand
see
what
I
mean.
K
No,
no!
No!
So
thank
you
for
auditing
that
so
we
have
plant
Moran,
give
us
the
number,
but
also
our
director,
Ali
deeb
audits,
the
number
that
only
an
engineer
could
do
for
the
city
for
both
the
we'll
call
it
the
North,
the
you
know
and
and
the
the
area
of
the
city
in
the
Duos
yeah,
very
excellent
job.
M
I
appreciate
it
so,
ultimately,
if
we
get
that
resolved
with
them,
it's
going
to
for
us
going
forward
we'll
have
a
process
in
place
that
will
set
it
for
the
next
Generation.
We
know
what
we
flow
so
anytime.
We
get
an
invoice.
You
get
an
invoice
on
your
water
bill,
it
will
say
a
d
for
Dua
or
R
for
rules.
M
E
No
I'm
not
I
promise
you
I'm,
not
I'm.
Just
look
I
follow
you
blindly,
but
this
is
you
know
you.
You
broke
some
news
to
me
so
casually
that
we
don't.
You
know
we're
not
prepared
for
the
water
meters
and
it
bothered
me
but
I
want
you
to
know.
I
know
that
you
said
you're
we're
going
to
be
getting
this
fun
and
it's
not.
We
might
we
will.
So
when
we
get
those
funds.
Let's
make
priority
that
hey.
We
made
promises
to
Residents
I.
M
Know
and
I
would
love
to
do
that.
I
would
love
to
do
that
because
that
will
be,
but
what
I
don't
want
to
I
have
to
be
fiscally
responsible
if
I'm
doing
that
25,
if
I'm
managing
that
that
Bond
money
I
can't
put
a
contract
on
the
street
and
bring
it
over
over
to
you
for
approval
and
tell
you
I,
don't
know
where
the
money's
coming
from
yeah.
You
know
I
mean
I,
know
I'm
short
right.
E
Look
I
will
tell
you
the
former
DPW
director,
who
did
a
great
job,
amazing
job
I,
can't
even
say
anything
about
Mr
salami
when,
when
the
CSO
bonds
came
to
vote
on
that,
you
know,
I
was
fairly
new
on
Council
I,
I
I'll
tell
you
the
truth
and
you've
just
given
me
some
insight
right
now
that
look
I
plan
on
being
a
part
of
City
for
a
long
time.
Somebody
brings
up
a
CS4
button
to
me
in
20
years.
E
M
K
M
Them
no,
we
are.
We
are
going
we're
going
on
the
right
track.
I
I
truly
believe
we're
on
the
right
track.
Now,
I
have
my
personal
Heaven
spent
two
years.
Looking
at
that
issue,
what
we're
doing
now
is
probably
so
in
addition
to
that,
we
need
we're
working.
So
I,
don't
know
if
you
got
into
the
water
budget,
but
on
the
water
budget
we
have
an
unacceptable
level
of
of
water
main
breaks,
which
is
water
loss
to
us,
which
is
something
that
we
have
to
include
on
our
water
bill.
M
M
So
so
what
we
do
for
the
replacement
we
wanted
to
be
proactive.
So
if
a
water
main,
if
a
section
of
a
water
main
break
in
the
particular
location
of
the
city,
breaks
10
times
a
year,
that's
time
to
go
and
replace
the
damn
thing
right.
So
that's
our
planned
replacement
is
in
that
in
that
regard,
and
and
what's
funny,
even
that,
you
have
possible
funding
sources
to
assist
you
in
that
regard.
M
I
I
mean
the
other
thing
we're
looking
at
to
reduce
our
water.
Main
breaks
is
there's
a
tool
called
a
pressure
relief
valve
and
we've
bought
some
temporary
ones
that
we
put
on
the
hydrants
and
what
they're
made
to
do
is
and
when
there's
a
High
spike
in
pressure
it
dumps
water
rather
than
let
it
you
know,
impact
the
the
line
we're
looking
at
putting
in
some
permanent
pressure
relief
valves.
These
won't
dump
they'll.
Just
you
know,
keep
our
water
pressure
at
a
constant
state
of
you
know.
I
Whatever
our
water
reliability
study
would
determine,
it
should
be
some
of
the
problems
we
experienced.
You
know
last
I
think
it
was.
You
know.
September,
October
and
November,
with
the
high
number
of
water
main
breaks
was
a
result
of
when
Great
Lakes
water
authority
had
that
massive
pipe
failure
out
in
Shelby
or
up
in
the
north,
and
they
were
pushing
a
lot
more
water
through
our
system
and
through
our
trunk.
I
Well,
not
necessarily
through
our
system
but
through
the
the
trunk
lines
that
feed
our
community
and
we
were
having
to
deal
with
the
spikes
in
pressure
from
you
know:
they're
controlling
I
mean
their
control
of
their
system,
isn't
a
very
automated
thing
and
it's
an
older
plant
and
things
everything's
done
manually.
So
we
were
regularly
experiencing
spikes
and
pressure
that
were,
you
know,
causing
major
failures
in
our
system.
These
pressure
relief
valves
would
minimize
those
spikes,
they're
pricey,
but
I
mean
we
need
I.
I
Think
it's
something
that
you
know
me
and
Ali
have
been
talking
about.
They've
talked
about
putting
them
in
here
in
a
past
and
due
to
cost
they've
they've
they've
elected.
Not
to
do
it,
I
think
we
have
to
say
Hey.
You
know
it's
costing
us
too
much
money
in
labor
and
materials
to
continue
this
path
and
the
wear
and
tear
on
my
staff
when
we're
out
there
I
mean
water.
Main
breaks,
don't
typically
occur.
You
know
from
7
30
to
4.
F
I
Know
they
occur
at
5,
00
p.m
or
their
call
occur
at
you
know
two
in
the
morning,
so
you
know
that
would
help
us.
You
know,
so
you
may
see
some
of
that
coming
in
the
future,
where
you
know
we're
going
to
start
six
meter
pits.
We
have
that
we
would
like
to
put
these
on
we'll
probably
start
with
our
you
know
two
to
four
busiest
or
the
ones
that
have
the
highest
volumes
through
them
and
and
work
on
those.
But
thank.
E
M
That
that
is,
it
is
part
of
the
solution
to
try
to
lower
the
you
know.
So
what
we
do
is
it
during
the
water
reliability
study.
We
examine
how
much
water
we
buy
from
the
supplier
versus
the
total
we
sell
to
Citizens
and
the
difference
between
the
two
is
the
water
loss.
We
still
have
to
pay
the
Great,
Lake
water
or
Detroit
dwsd
Galore.
We
still
have
to
pay
for
that
water.
M
So
if
we
lose
water
due
to
water,
May
breaks,
in
addition
to
the
labor
costs
involved
in
repairing
that
you
still
have
to
pay
for
the
product,
so
water
loss
is
a
major
thing
and
we
constantly
keep
that
in
mind.
So
the
water
pressure
there's
another
issue
too,
with
great
lake
when
we're
done
with
the
the
current
study.
I
might
be
going
after
them
for
exceeding
their
contracts
with
us,
so
we'll
be
showing
them
too.
N
Clarification
questions
about
the
water
stuff
Rachel
the
point:
Mary
Street,
Dearborn
Heights
with
the
duo
debt,
so
that'll
drop
off
at
some
point
right
that
those
like
mortgages
unless
they
take
out
more
loans.
Correct,
yes
and
then
at
that
point.
Theoretically,
we
could
lower
the
bill
if
it's
currently
included
in
the
billing
process.
Right.
M
N
You
mentioned
that
the
bond
repayments
already
included
in
our
water
bills.
It's
not
a
separate
line
item,
so
is
that
just
getting
bulked
into
the
other
ones?
This
might
be
maybe
more
for
the
treasurer
or
maybe
it's
you
guys,
but
could
residents
get
that
broken
out
into
a
separate
line
item
so
they
can
see.
This?
Is
your
water
charge
your
sewer
charge,
your
bond
repayment
charge.
N
Might
need
to
talk
to
Lisa
about
it.
Yeah,
okay,
I,
think
that
would
help
people
understand
why
their
bills
may
have
jumped
more
recently,
because
there's
a
big
discussion
on
Facebook
going
on
about
it
now.
So
in
the
budget,
it's
on
page
54,
the
water
meeting,
reading
and
repair.
It
includes
4.5
million
projected
activity
this
year,
an
additional
4.5
million
for
next
year.
What
is
that
for
in
capital
outlay,
because
I
assume
that
was
the
water
meters
when
I
saw
it
page,
54
I
said.
E
N
M
I
Do
I
remember
from
David
sabuda
last
year
we
have
to
keep
a
minimum
amount
in
fund
balance,
which
is
7
million
and
yeah.
It
was
like
a
period
of
time
like
a
year
or
18
months
or
whatever.
There
was
a.
He
had
a
period
of
time
that
were
mandated
to
keep
money
in
our
fund,
balance
and
I.
Think
that's
why
it's.
N
N
Mean
it's
an
idea,
that's
something
they
could
look
into:
okay,
I
I,
it
kind
of
relates
to
the
water
billing
discussion
is
reminding
me
that
we
don't
have
income
streams,
which
is
really
what
Mr
deed
was
saying
too
about
like
the
grants
and
and
never
asking
for
money
from
the
state.
All
that
kind
of
stuff
I
would
love
to
see.
City
council
pursue
further
income
streams.
I
think
we
dropped
the
ball
on
the
golf
course
and
potential
for
income
streams
there
majorly,
but
we
are
also
dropping
the
ball
in
other
areas.
N
Marijuana
dispensaries
brought
in
cities
in
the
first
year.
It
was
about
20K
per
dispensary,
let
the
second
year
it
was
60k
per
dispensary
and
I'm.
Guessing
it's
only
going
to
go
up
from
there
at
this
point,
culturally,
as
a
as
a
state
we're
more
comfortable
with
things,
and
the
fact
is,
we
need
income
and
it
might
be
time
to
re-look
at
that
decision
that
was
made
many
years
ago
and
think
about
the
residents
who
maybe
need
to
use
cannabis
for
medical
needs.