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From YouTube: 4/13/23 - Dearborn Heights Budget Study Session
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The Dearborn Heights Study Session for the Corporate Fund Budget for Fiscal Year 2023-2024 taking place Thursday, April 13th 2023 in the Dearborn Heights Council Chambers and via Zoom.
A
Today
is
April
the
13th
and
it
is
right
now
5
p.m,
and
we
will
be
starting
with
one
of
our
favorites
Michael
McCaffrey
of
our
world
famous
Library.
C
B
A
B
E
F
F
Okay,
well
so,
anyway,
so
far
this
fiscal
year,
the
libraries
are
once
again
to
stay
in
line
close
to
budget.
Last
year,
our
audit
showed
we
only
had
a
thousand
dollar
difference
from
budgeted
actual
expenditures
which
I
was
kind
of
happy
with,
because
it's
pretty
close,
it
looks
like
that
trend
is
continuing
note.
As
a
reminder,
the
library
does
not
get
any
revenue
from
the
general
fund,
it's
by
and
large,
a
self-supporting
entity
with
some
State
money
and
tiffan
aside
funded
through
the
annual
millage
of
all
costs
and
services.
F
Libraries
were
impacted
drastically
by
the
covid
epidemic
this
past
fiscal
year,
but
so
far
this
fiscal
year
we
have
checked
out
and
renewed
over
174
158
items
up
from
123
items.
Last
year,
event,
attendance
in
fact
has
been
higher
than
pre-covered
levels
and
we
look
to
continue
to
expand
Outreach
we're
going
to
continue
those
Trends
this
upcoming
year,
as
I've
mentioned
before,
we're
going
to
continuing
the
path
we've
set
forth
in
the
two
previous
years
and
continue
to
set
the
following
objectives:
continue
on
a
positive
and
get
responsible
track
on
salaries.
F
A
couple
lines
I
wanted
to
point
out
line
738
738,
706
salaries.
One
this
one
line
was
a
little
different
than
the
very
first
budget
report
that
came
out.
The
actual
value
should
be
40
480
982
on
this,
because
the
initial
budget
proposal
didn't
have
the
budget
amendment
that
was
passed
in
February,
okay,
so
that
changed
the
salary
line
for
this
fiscal
year
to
449,
with
the
proposed
salary
increase,
is
upcoming.
This
year
the
new
line
total
should
be
480
982.,
not
for
50,
something
that's
on
there.
Okay
and
line
seven
step.
F
A
I
had
a
question
in
regards
to
the
state
Grant
206
000
is
a
good
quarter
million
dollars.
What
what
is
that
specifically
for.
F
Oh,
that's
for
an
Outreach
efforts,
we're
going
to
be
making
sure
we
get
more
materials
specifically
for
our
great
crates
program,
which
goes
directly
to
schools
and
we're
going
to
be
doing
in
I'm.
Sorry
we're
going
to
be
doing
a
large
upgrade
of
our
computer
infrastructure
and
our
computers
and
making
sure
we
have
a
vehicle
on
both
ends
like
we
have
one
on
South
and
on
the
North
End,
and
that's
the
big
things.
That's.
E
F
F
So
the
millage
of
the
state
Grant,
the
local
Community
Fund
stabilization,
shares
still
pretty
consistent
contribution
for
the
general
fund.
The
contribution
for
the
general
fund
again
is
the
Tifa
payment.
It's
the
actual.
It's
the
payment
coming
from
tipidas
miscellaneous
income.
That's
money
from
the
friends
interest,
35
000
that
actually
might
be
kind
of
a
low
calculation
might
end
up
being
a
little
higher,
considering
interest
rates
now.
F
So,
if
so
good,
but
I'd
like
to
estimate
revenues
conservatively
to
make
sure
that
we're
over
those
marks,
if
we
can
possibly
get
there
reimbursement,
mmrma
5000
is
kind
of
a
good
placeholder
state
aid
penal
fines
around
80.,
that's
pretty
on
par
Library
fines,
as
I
mentioned
before,
we've
done
away
with
them.
That
small
amount
is
just
for
incidentals
and
lost
items,
and
that
kind
of
a
thing
and
coin
copy
printers
to
about
6
500,
as
I
mentioned
in
the
overview,
any
question
with
any
of
the
revenue
lines.
E
Nothing
on
my
end.
Okay,
all
righty.
F
Okay,
so
salaries
as
I
mentioned
in
the
overview,
the
recommended
budget
instead
of
452
982,
is
going
to
be
the
480,
the
change
that
I
put
in
the
overview.
That's
because
if
you
looked
at
the
amended
budget
for
22.23
at
421
626,
that
in
fact
should
be
449.,
because
the
budget
was
amended
in
February
of
this
year.
F
F
So
just
heads
up
that
that
was
going
to
be
changed
or
altered.
What.
A
Is
what
is
Jen
Joe
General
government
and
it's
the
pension?
Okay,
yes,
okay,
but
then
I
noticed
it.
It.
F
Was
split
out
if
you'll
notice,
the
fringe
benefits,
went
down
from
200
000
to
74
000.
and
there's
your
126.
difference
right.
E
F
See
it's
going
towards
it's
going
up
there
as
we
continue
to
compete.
Part-Time
labor
is
a
particularly
difficult
market
in
terms
of
making
sure
you
have
Staffing,
so
I
have
to
constantly
make
sure
that
that's
at
a
right
number
fringe
benefits
supplies
utilities.
F
G
F
Yeah,
actually
you
have
it
on
both
the
income
and
spending
line.
Okay
right.
So
so
we
can
keep
track
of
hey.
We've
spent
it
from
the
account
so
yeah.
It's
the
same
grant
that
we
got
in
okay,
Contract,
Services,
Library,
Network
contract
account,
telephones,
mileage,
Library,
offense
programs,
print
publish
repair,
building,
maintenance,
15
training,
Capital
outlay.
That's
still
mostly
books,
other
major
we're
going
to
be
continuing
to
buy
chairs
so
that
10
000
goes
towards
chairs
and
then
the
bond
principle.
F
Contingency
and
interest
are
the
last
three
for
the
Bond
payments
of
both
buildings.
How.
A
Are
we
doing
on
I
know
at
one
point
we're
replacing
some
carpeting
in,
especially
if
this
one
here
at
this
Library
Yes.
E
F
Those
are
going
to
be
in
the
form
of
a
budget
amendment
I'm
going
to
be
getting
quotes
on
these
this
fiscal
year
and
when
I
get
a
more
accurate
amount,
I'm
going
to
be
making
sure
that
that's
in
done
this
upcoming
year,
I
had
exactly
intended
to
do
that
before
covid
and
then
covid
sort
of
threw
everything
in
kind
of
a
a
wash
so
I'm
going
to
be
doing
that
this
year
and
also
I'm
going
to
be
resurfacing.
F
The
roof
at
JFK
they've
had
some
lots
of
intermittent
leaks,
occur
year
to
year
to
year
and
I
have
looked
into
that.
I've
talked
to
building
maintenance,
I've
talked
to
Ali
deeb,
and
the
recommendation
is
for
a
few
more
years
more
more
years
anyway,
get
a
codon
at
first
before
we
do
a
full
replacement.
So.
A
A
A
A
But
it's
cost
versus
it's
cost
versus
benefits.
So
if
you
have
a
cost
of
a
a
security
guard,
seven
days
a
week,
whatever
it
is
number
of
days
that
you're
open
all
year
for
maybe
one
or
two
incidents
versus
being
able
to
call
the
cops
because
in
general,
when
you
call
the
police
they're
there
within
two
to
four
minutes,
most
incidents
in
the
library
are
not
so
time
sensitive.
So
they
you
have
to
have
somebody
there
on
the
spot.
It's
not
a
bank
I.
F
I
would
say
you
more
than
you
think,
yeah
and
I'm
not
saying
that
you
know
that's,
that's
it's
Anarchy
and
there's
fighting
going
on
all
the
time,
but
there
is
actually
a
sort
of
you
see.
A
library
is
a
very
rural
and
rural
rule,
oriented
organization,
so
you
have
to
enforce
rules
62
hours
a
week
and
it's
it's
a
it's
a
it's
a
type
of
organization
that
constantly
practices,
rule
enforcement,
and
so
in
doing
that
a
guard
helps
supplement
staff
when
not
just
kids,
but
adults.
A
But
the
point
I'm
making
is
it
sensitive,
but
even
if
it's
an
adult
like
let's
say,
Dave
Abdallah
57
years
old,
you
say
Dave
be
quiet
which,
by
the
way,
would
always
be
quiet
at
the
library.
But
if
you
did
and
I
said
well,
I'm
not
going
to
do
that,
it's
not
such
an
emergency
where
you
can't
call
the
police
officers
to
be
there
in
two
to
four
minutes.
You
know
I
I
just
think
like
how
much
do
we
pay
the
security
guard,
for
example,.
F
Listen
in
some
ways,
I
wish.
That
was
the
case.
I
agree
with
you,
I'll
say
this:
we
don't
hire
them
for
every
single
hour
of
the
day
is
literally
just
during
the
busiest
time
which
is
usually
about
three
to
six
three
to
seven,
so
yeah,
we're
gonna.
Do
it
10
in
the
morning
yeah.
B
Thank
you,
director,
McCaffrey
I
mean
great
job,
I
mean
I,
wish
every
Department
came
to
us
with
this
type
of
budget.
On
the
on
the
situation.
With
the
security
guard,
I
go
there
quite
a
bit.
We
have
meetings
there
and
you'd
be
surprised
when
you
get
a
group
of
kids
in
there
and
they
go
into
a
room
and
they
just
tear
up
throw
paper
around
by
the
time
you
you
know
one
or
two
minutes,
they're
gone
I
mean
there's
no
deterrent,
you
don't
have
someone
in
there
it's.
H
B
Young
people,
which
is
pretty
cool,
but
can
you
tell
us
how
you
know,
let
everyone
watching
in
us
here
how
you
get
your
majority
of
your
funding,
explain
that
to
us.
F
It's
a
it's
a
dedicated,
Library
millage,
that's
sent
out
via
the
tax
rolls
the
year
to
year
to
year
the
actual
tax
rate
in
terms
of
the
millage
rate,
Goes
Down,
based
on
property
values,
I'm
sure
Realtors
all
know
about
that.
So
it
goes
down
year
to
year
to
year,
and
the
way
I
project
out
is
that
I
have
a
plan
whereby
I
factor
that
in
all
the
way
to
2033.
F
and
the
reason
I
factor
it
into
2033,
is
that's.
When
the
bond
comes
off
the
books
and
then
it's
kind
of
a
different
budget
situation
so
but
yeah
I
factored
that
in
the
atrophy
of
the
military
year
to
year,
and
that's
where
most
of
it
comes
from.
There
is
a
little
bit
of
state
aid
and
a
little
bit
of
penal,
fine
Revenue,
as
well
so
by
state
law,
some
money
that
from
speeding
tickets
comes
to
the
library.
Oh.
I
F
F
Yeah,
it's
only
a
base
amount
and
also
with
the
also
with
the
guard
in
terms
of
calling
police
every
time
it.
It's
tough
to
call
police
all
the
time
for
something
like
a
relatively
minor
incident
and-
and
you
know,
because
there's
also
things
that
are
higher
priority
for
a
police
department.
Normally
sometimes
you
know
it
and
we
have
a
good
PD.
They
respond
well.
But
you
know
if
there's
something
serious
going
on
like
a
Chase
or
something
else
going
on
we're,
probably
down
the
ladder.
F
C
F
Yes,
yes,
accidents
and
that
kind
of
thing
this
would
be
patrolling
around
okay.
They
don't
deal
with
traffic
accidents.
G
F
Does
that
cover
is
the
line,
the
money
we
pay,
the
city
for
the
city's
Services.
They
provide
us
so
there's
paper,
towels,
there's
air
conditioning
services,
legal
phones,
I.T,
all
of
that
stuff
comes
in
one
package,
accounting
accounting,
yes,
accounting,
HR!
All
of
the
services
the
city
provides
us
is
in
the
contingency
line.
F
F
F
F
Well,
we
usually
have
a
a
total
count
of
around
200
to
120
000
visits
per
year.
I
can
extrapolate
that
out
now
over
some
days
where
it's
slower
some
days
where
it's
bigger
some
days.
We
have
programs
that
are
larger
some
days,
it's
quiet
as
a
mouse.
Some
days,
it's
quiet
at
night,
some
days
it's
busy
at
night.
It
varies,
but
we
average
around
200
to
220
000
gate
count
currently
per
year,
but.
F
D
Me
yeah
absolutely
thank
you.
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
mention
that
these
salaries
for
the
library
did
increase
in
February
of
2022,
and
everyone
did
get
anyone
between
the
nine
and
a
20
percent
increase,
and
that
is
included
in
the
number
here
of
the
452
982.
So,
if
you're
asking
for
more,
then
I
would
recommend
that
that
goes
through
HR
because
of
raise
increases
in
the
past.
Do
go
through
HR.
Well,.
J
F
Here's
here's
where
the
difference
lies,
the
the
449,
the
one
that
was
budgeted
or
changed
in
February
of
this
year,
was
actually
last
year's.
Raise
the
2022
raise
the
480
is
this
year's
race?
What
happened
was
the
last
year's
raise
was
done
later
and
retroactively?
F
So
that's
why
the
base
amount
of
449
exists
in
terms
of
instead
of
the
426,
and
so
this
year
it's
going
up
to
480
and
the
reason
for
some
of
those
increases
in
terms
of
what
the
percentage
was.
What
some
of
them
were
promotional
increases,
because
somebody
was
promoted
to
a
department
or
a
branch
manager,
some
of
those.
So
that's
why?
But.
A
But
I'm
saying
what
was
what
I'm
saying
controller
in
the
in
the
initial
printed
amount
in
the
in
the
request
was
470.
in
the
initial
amount
that
was
written
in
the
outside
typed
in
there
was
the
452-982
that.
D
Last
year
was
anywhere
from
nine
to
twenty
percent,
and
I
had
already
increased
it
by
five
percent
by
giving
the
452
000.
five.
J
F
The
the
five
percent
was
the
difference
between
all
right,
so
the
base
amount
of
426
should
be
449.,
the
five
percent
that
the
Comptroller
added
puts
us
at
480..
So
it's
the
same.
It's
the
same
number
translated,
but
the
four
the
489.82
is
the
comptroller's
five
percent
raise
added
in.
Does
everyone
understand
that.
J
No
I'm
confused
because
doesn't
make
sense
either.
F
The
numbers
aren't
wrong
here:
okay,
so
all
right!
So
let's
so
as
you
look
at
the
salaries
line,
all
right
you'll
see
the
amended
budget
for
twenty
twenty
two
twenty
three
in
the
second
column.
Yes,
that
number
should
be
449.
well
here
it
shows
421.,
that's
correct!
It
should
be
449,
because
this
was
amended
by
Council,
okay,
this
February
of
449..
Okay.
So
if
you
add
five
percent
the
same
amount
of
31
000
that
the
Comptroller
added-
that's
where
you
get
the
480
and
the
recommended
does
that
make
sense
that.
F
J
A
K
C
D
For
the
cable
TV
department
is
that
what
we're
doing
okay,
so
their
budget
for
their
salaries,
is
at
47
940.,
they're,
part-time
64-4
that
went
up
a
little
bit
from
50.
A
D
Yeah
right
same
thing,
yeah
I
believe
that
they
just
actually
kept
the
same
number
from
last
year,
the
amended
budget
we
can
go
down,
though,
since
they
have
not
used
it
and
you
can
see
the
projected
is
at
54.
I.
Think
at
this
point
they
probably
just
use
the
same
number
that
they
did
last
year,
thinking
just
in
case
as
a
placeholder.
A
D
The
other
thing
is
the
peg
Capital
Improvement
of
620
000,
because
they
are
requesting
new
equipment
and
they
do
have
it
in
their
fun
balance
in
the
peg
fund
to
cover
that.
D
A
B
A
yeah,
how
many
employees
are
there
in
the
cable.
D
H
B
D
I
think
for
these
smaller
ones,
like
the
the
cable
I
know,
this
is
the
first
time
that
she
actually
did
a
budget.
So
we
sat
through
her
with
her
and
was
just
kind
of
like
telling
her
based
on
what
she
spent
last
year
and
what
the
budget
was
for
the
year
before.
This
would
look
like
a
good
number
for
the
for
the
new
budget.
So
when
she,
the
cable
Department,
didn't
actually
give
me
their
requests.
B
D
A
Just
to
partially
answer
them
correct
me
if
I'm,
not
if
I'm
wrong
controller,
because
the
initial
setup
is
whoever
particular
Department
had
when
they
meet
all
of
you,
guys
together
they
come
in
with
all
of
their
wants
and
all
their
goodies
and
all
their
toys
that
they
would
like
right
and
then
between
them
and
administration.
They
cut
it
down
to
really
what
they
really
really
need,
because,
obviously,
if,
if
you
guys
gave
everybody
what
they
wanted,
we
would.
D
A
Isn't
that
why
that's
not
in
there,
because
it's
really
almost
kind
of
sort
of
irrelevant
correct,
because
we're
not
because
because
between
negotiations
between
your
the
administration
and
the
particular
Department
had
was
agreed
upon
that?
No
we're
not
going
to
go
for
the
fire
department
for
three
million.
You
both
agree
between
each
other
that
it's
going
to
be
1.1
million
and
then
that's
what's
put
in
there.
So
the
fact
that
he
had
three
millions.
D
A
E
A
So
Council
I,
don't
know
if
you
heard
me,
but
yeah,
the
the
short
short
version
of
it
as
I
was
telling
her.
She
said,
that's
correct,
you
know
how
they
come
in
to
meet
with
the
administration
and
they
come
in
with,
like
the
fire
department,
for
example,
will
come
in
with
you
know:
30
million
that
they
want
for
whatever
they
all
these
nice
toys
that
they
want.
B
B
D
Every
every
Department
had
gives
me
their
wish
list,
I
go
through
it
and
the
only
thing
that
I
cut-
and
this
is
based
really
on
what
the
mayor's
recommendation
is
their
Capital
outlay.
Everything
else
that
they
pretty
much
request
that
they
got
their
Capital
outlay
was
cut
and
based
on
their
their
need,
actually
is
what
I
would
give
them
based
on.
What
we
have
left
in
the
budget
are.
B
D
Then,
at
this
time,
when
they
come
forward-
and
they
tell
you-
you
know
what
comptroller
King
didn't
give
me
this
and
I
really
need
it,
and
then
that's
up
to
you
to
make
that
decision.
If.
C
A
D
C
E
E
C
D
D
A
D
A
A
All
right
any
other
questions
on
this
here
and
none
we'll
go
to
the
next
one.
That's
the
communication
and
newsletter
page
31.
and
for
those
that
are
not
I,
mean
it's
different
communication
and
then
there's
also
I
believe
included
in
this.
One
would
be
the
magazine
that
goes
out.
Is
that
correct?
Yes,.
A
A
The
only
thing
on
that
one
is
I
believe
that
one
was
brought
in
from
a
police
department
a
budget
last
year.
Is
that
correct?
No
for
the
public
information.
L
No
sir,
that
was
that
was
covered
under
the
home
I'm
sorry
I
was
covered
under
the
cable
operation.
Okay,.
A
L
H
L
Out
the
general
types
of
promotion
and
marketing
activities
again,
it
was
all
lumped
under
the
the
cable
operation
so
again
to
do.
This
really
is
just
a
matter
of
Clarity
and
transparency,
but.
A
L
Honestly,
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
do
some
investigating
on
that
I.
Don't
know
how
much
was
pulled
out
of
cable,
specifically
because
I'm
not
part
of
that
operation.
A
Well,
but
that
would
be
if
it
was
split.
What
what
I'm
asking
is?
Is
this
a
completely
new
budget,
not
just
in
terms
of
what
you
know
where
you
segment
it?
Is
it
a
completely
new
amount,
that's
being
used
that
was
not
previously
used
in
previous
years?
What
is
the
additional
dollar
amount?
That's
probably
my.
L
L
No!
No!
No,
that
that
36
000
will
be
reduced
by
the
amount
of
Revenue
we
generate
through
the
advertising
and.
A
J
Full
time
with
emergency
manager,
full-time.
A
L
And
I
will.
Let
me
let
me
back
back
up
just
a
little
bit
when
we're
talking
about
the
salaries,
we'll
jump
ahead
over
to
the
Emergency
Management
you'll
see
a
a
part-time
salary
which
is
Page,
21.
you'll
see
a
salary
of
forty
two
thousand
dollars
in
there.
I,
don't
believe
that
is
corrected,
I'm
pretty
sure.
That's
a
little
higher
than
than
I
had
originally
proposed.
I
need
to
give
back
with
our
chief
of
staff
and
see
see
what
her
line
of
reasoning
was
on
on
that.
Okay,.
A
And
if
that's
not
42,
could
we
get
I'm
not
so
much
concerned
if
it's
one
or
two
thousand
different,
the
somewhat
drastic
difference,
because
we
know
exactly,
can
you
email
us?
Maybe
if
you
don't
mind
for
those
in
the
audience
and
for
those
on
Zoom
just
to
clarify
any
budget
study
sessions
is
basically
just
that
study
sessions,
so
this
is
not
etched
in
stone.
This
is
basically
a
conversation
about
the
budget.
A
It
is
probably
about
four
five
six
layers
before
we
get
to
their
final
approval,
so
don't
be
too
concerned
if,
in
this
case,
right
now,
the
director
says
well
that
42
000
is
wrong.
This
is
a
part
of
the
process
that
we
go
through
to
make
sure
it's
all
corrected.
I
did
have
a
question
on
the
capital
outlay
of
six
thousand
dollars.
What
are
you
using
that.
L
Were
you
talking
Community.
L
Yes,
The
Lion's
Share
of
that.
L
As
we
talked
earlier,
then
that
request
came
from
our
Police
Department
Wayne
County,
the
traffic
folks
I
got
in
touch
with
with
our
police
chief
and
suggested
that,
in
the
case
of
large-scale
power
outages
like
the
ice
storm
we
had
not
long
ago,
okay,
as
anyone
who
drove
down
Ford,
Road
or
any
other
major
streets
realize
when
you
come
up
to
a
traffic
light
during
a
power
outage,
you
got
a
message:
I
mean
everybody's,
doing
the
four-way
and
every
once
in
a
while,
unfortunately,
they're
banging
into
each
other
and
so
on
and
so
forth.
L
Okay,
how
many
came
back
to
us
and
said?
Listen
if
you
can,
if
you
can
procure
a
small
number
of
just
small
portable
generators,
we
can,
if
you
have
those
available,
we
can
take
them
plug
them
into
selected
intersection
traffic
lights
power.
Those!
So
even
though
the
rest
of
the
city
is
out
of
power,
at
least
the
traffic
lights
will
be
functioning.
So
you
don't
have
the
the
traffic
hazard.
B
Council
chair
I
mean
that
actually
thank
you.
That
was
brought
up
to
me
by
several
residents
for
the
telegraph
in
Van
Born.
When.
H
B
L
No,
no,
we
would
we
would
take
possession
of
those
we
would
own
them
and
again,
in
the
case
of
a
of
a
storm
or
a
power
outage,
we
would
make
sure
that
that
the
county
folks
would
would
be
able
to
come
pick
them
up
and
get
them
away.
A
Okay,
any
other
questions
on
Emergency
Management
I
had
one
more
question:
I'm,
sorry,
but
on
Emergency,
Management
and.
A
Same
done,
the
other
question
I
had
is
I
talked
to
you
previously
about
this.
We
said
this
came
in.
This
was
originally
under
the
police
department
budget,
correct.
A
Originally,
under
a
police
department
budget
right,
why
are
they
separating
it
right
now?
What's
the
purpose
of
separating
and
the
other
question
secondary
question
is
I've
been
through
the
Emergency
Management
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
call
it
Department
big
room,
emergency
room,
call
whatever
you
want
to
call
it
and
me-
and
you
talked
about
this
about
how
quite
frankly
walking
through
there
I
felt
like
I
was
walking
through
like
1961.
A
You
know,
obviously
it
needs
to
be
either
used
for
something
else
or
totally
updated
in
terms
of
Technology
phones,
I
mean
there's
still
rotary
phones,
I,
think
in
there
it's
it's
pretty
old,
so
I
I,
honestly,
if
that's
what
you
guys
are
going
to
use
for
a
major
emergency,
whether
whatever
it
is
in
our
city,
I'd,
be
worried.
A
L
C
L
My
one
of
my
passions,
quite
frankly,
is
in
as
far
as
the
name
goes:
that's
the
Emergency,
Operations
Center,
okay,
one
of
my
passions
is
to
bring
that
thing
back
to
life
again.
As
you
know,
I
was
retired
for
a
few
years
and
I'm
not
sure
what
happened
while
I
was
gone,
but
I
was
surprised,
I
came
back
and
that
much
had
been
updated.
So
again,
there's
going
to
be
a
there's
going
to
be
a
significant
upgrade
there.
L
But
that's
going
to
be
one
of
my
one
of
my
major
objectives:
Council.
B
Chair,
okay,
thank
you,
and
just
so
everybody
knows
one:
where
is
this
center
located.
B
And
can
you
tell
people
you're,
you're
education,
so
to
speak
in
Emergency
Management.
L
Sure
would
be
surprised
Yeah
by
all
means.
Several
years
ago,
I
went
back
to
Eastern,
Michigan
University
and
got
a
master's
degree
in
the
Emergency
Management
okay,
shortly
after
that,
I
did
the
studies
and
the
coursework
and
so
on
and
forth
to
become
a
designated
as
a
PDM,
Pim
or
a
professional
emergency
manager,
which
is
a
designation
through
the
Michigan
State
Police
emergency
management
and
Homeland
Security
division.
It's
almost
like
a
in
a
sense,
it's
a
mini
master's
degree,
I
guess
for
Emergency,
Management
and
then
again,
compounded
with
before
I
retired.
L
A
few
years
ago,
I
had
about
probably
about
12
years
of
Hands-On
experience
in
the
Emergency
Management
Field
and
since
then,
again,
I'm
still
doing
continuing
coursework
things
of
that
nature
relating
to
an
even
field.
A
Things
I'd
like
to
add
to
this
councilman
in
my
conversations
with
Robert
ankraft
is
his
vision
is
to
be
in,
and
this
is
I
told
my
concern
is
I.
Don't
want
emergency
manager
that
just
does
reactive
work
because
reactive
work
is
just
not
good.
You
want
proactive
work
in
preparativeness
and
and
that's
something
that
he
mentioned
he's
completely
focusing
on
and
the
other
thing
the
question
I
had
honestly
was
a
concern
of
mine
as
a
resident
and
no
offense
to
you.
But
I
thought
you
know
who's,
calling
all
the
shots.
A
You
know
I
mean
because
he
doesn't
have
any
human
Manpower
call
whatever
you
want
that's
under
him,
and
he
clarified
it
for
me
as
to
how
it
works.
There's
still
the
police
department,
where
the
FBI,
whoever
it
is.
That's
you
know
it
takes
over
in
charge,
he's
just
working
one
time
because
he's
the
guy
that's
the
most
knowledgeable
locally
and
makes
sure
he's
providing
him
with
the
needed
resources,
not
as
in
police
officers
but
other
than
whatever
it
is
that
they
need,
whether
it's
a
major
oil
spill
or
whatever
yeah.
L
We
were,
we
were
very
closely
obviously
with
our
friends
in
the
in
the
fire
department
in
the
police
department.
L
The
county
Wayne
County
has
a
very
active
Emergency,
Management
Department,
and
also
we
work
very
closely
with
the
state
police,
their
Emergency
Management
Department,
and,
in
addition
to
that,
most
of
the
communities
around
here
do
have
their
own
Emergency
Management
Programs,
and
we
get
together
on
a
pretty
regular
basis
meeting
and
comparing
notes,
and
we
can
we're
certainly
able
to
to
pitch
in
and
help
out
when
another
com
or
one
another
Community
needs
to
need
to
hang
something,
and
that's
one
of
the
things
I
want
to
do
is
really
bring
back
those
relationships
that
we
have
with
with
those
other
organizations.
G
J
L
Okay,
bear
with
me
because
that's
that's
one
was
was
plugged
in
on
my
behalf.
L
Yeah
yeah,
four
thousand
for
phones
under
yeah.
J
D
J
L
B
He
brought
up
a
point
about
the
zoom.
You
know,
there's
been
rumors
going
around,
that
we're
gonna,
stop
the
zoom
meetings
and
Zoom
broadcasts
and
other
broadcasts
of
the
meetings
and
I
know
I
watched
it
on
Zoom
a
couple
times
and
it
it's
it's
better.
It's
fixed
yeah.
B
The
issue
has
been
fixed
and
my
issue
is:
is
we
were
told
that
it
would
be
like
two
million
dollars
to
fix
it
and
we
were
never
asked
to
appropriate
any
money
to
fix
the
I
mean
he,
the
I.T
director
said
he
had
lined
up
equipment
to
buy,
I
mean
when
they
buy
equipment
doesn't
have
to
go.
Do
they
replace
all
the
equipment
or
no.
A
No,
actually,
it
was
a
pretty
I,
don't
say
a
simple
fix,
but
it
was
a
fix
right
in
that
back
room
there
between
I,
think
Angela
and
David
Cooper
they're
able
to
figure
out
they
changed
something
and.
L
Everything
yeah
they
brought
the
folks
in
who
who
originally
installed
the
the
camera,
all
the
video
and
audio
equipment
so
between.
C
L
Three
of
them
they
were
able
to
work
out
the
solution.
Again
it
was
a
I,
don't
want
to
say
a
simple
fix,
but
it
was.
A
A
D
A
L
The
residents
okay,
one
other
thing:
if
I
can
jump
into
one
of
my
passions
again,
this
was
going
back
before
I
retired.
Several
years
ago,
chairman
you
had
mentioned
the
the
the
the
reactive
person's
proactive.
That
is
one
thing
that
that
I'm,
really
passionate
about
is
getting
the
city
back
on
the
beam
as
far
as
Advanced
preparedness
type
things,
whether
it's
teaching
workshops
or
Communications
through
videos
and
articles
working
with
our
cert
Community
versus
capacity.
L
D
C
L
No
no
I
mean
other
than
the
well
for
on
the
community.
L
Again,
Emergency
Management
the
EOC
there
there
may
be
something
there.
We'd
have
to
get
with
Mr
Cooper
on
that
I.
K
Think
I
think
what
they're
talking
about,
because
these
these
phones
are
sold
inside.
So
if
there's
an
emergency,
they
want
Mr
Cooper
wanted
to
upgrade
them
so
they're,
absolutely
well.
D
The
public
information
there
was
four
thousand
dollars
put
in
as
a
new
department
for
telephones,
I'm,
not
sure
if
we
were
going
to
put
in
landlines
in
there.
If.
L
D
L
Oh,
thank
you,
I'm,
not
seeing
a
telephone
line
in
the
emergency
meeting.
L
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31
right,
yeah
yeah
and
that's
the
one
with
with
four
thousand
dollars,
but
in
looking
at
the
Emergency
Management
there
is
not
a
line
there.
So
I
wonder
perhaps
if
that
was
a
a
bit
of
a
typo,
maybe
that
that
four.
B
Chair,
yes,
wouldn't
it
be
beneficial
if
the
emergency
manager
I
know
this
is
public,
but
his
phone
for
be
hooked
up
to
that
new
first
responder
phone
system
that
we
have,
but
for
the
fire
and
police
I
know
it's
like
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
what
it
is.
But
it's
you
know
no
interference
high.
The.
A
A
M
All
right
so
good
evening,
everybody
so
just
a
little
overview.
Thank.
M
M
Yeah
both
stations
and
that's
the
I
mean
with
80
being
EMS,
runs
and
those
calls
just
keep
going
up
every
year
and
we're
continuing
to
meet
17
to
NFPA
1710
is
getting
the
right
amount
of
Manpower
at
fires,
and
so
we've
been
working
together
with
our
surrounding
communities.
To
be
sure,
every
fire
we've
responded
to
we've
met
that,
which
is
been
a
number
one
priority
of
mine.
M
For
you
know
it
results
in
the
best
service
to
the
citizens
and
safety
for
our
firefighters,
and
you
know
limiting
damage
to
property,
so
I'm
happy
to
say
that
we've
been
meeting
that
and
lastly,
we
continue
with
some
Manpower
challenges
as
we
get
into
we
start
going
through
line
by
line
You'll
see
the
overtime
number,
although
I
do
have
an
added
to
that
that
has
been
submitted,
but
last
year
we
didn't
manage
to
hire
anyone.
So
I
was
thinking
we
were
going
to
fill
our
five
spots.
M
We
haven't
we're
in
the
process
now
and
I
do
believe.
That's
gonna
we'll
see
a
vast
Improvement
in
that,
hopefully
even
more
than
what
I'm.
What
I'm
going
to
suggest
here
shortly
and
I
did
pass
out.
Just
because
we
will
talk
about
Vehicles
shortly,
just
just
so
you
guys
I
know
that
some
council
members
have
always
asked
to
kind
of
get
a
get
an
overview
of
our
vehicles
because
that's
our
biggest
one
of
our
biggest
Capital
expenses.
So
all
right
with
that,
we
can
just
go
through
line
by
line.
M
If
you
guys
are
ready,
I
guess
it
was
so,
and
you
were
asking
me
for
about
why
sometimes
there's
a
blank
place
in
what
was
requested.
C
M
The
fire
department,
those
those
are
numbers
that
the
Comptroller
office
usually
supplies
for
us
like
the
salaries
and
that
that's
that's
something
that
comptroller
comes
up
with,
so
everything
stays
the
same
part
time
is
the
same.
The
2500,
that's
just
in
case
our
administrative
professional
has
to
take
extended
time
off.
We
need
someone
in
to
do
the
billing
for
EMS,
but
the
biggest
one.
There
is
over
time
you
see
us
set
at
750,
000.
M
I
do
I'm,
proposing
that
we
lower
that
to
650
000.
and
I'm
I'm,
hoping
we
can.
We
can
even
be
that
it's
going
to
be
dependent
on
how
many
people
we
do
get
in
the
door.
You
know
I
say
we're
down
five
spots,
but
what
that
translates
into
is
we
have
three
different
shifts
and
so
two
shifts
are
down
two
firefighters
and
one
shift
is
down
one
firefighter,
and
so
you
can
see,
there's
no
wiggle
room.
There,
there's
sometimes
scheduled
over
time.
M
So
when
the
Manpower
comes,
then
the
overtime
will
drop
right
off.
So
it's
just
hiring.
One
person
makes
an
impact
on
that
and
we've
got
probably
three
solid
candidates
that
we
that
have
been
interviewed.
The
list
isn't
completed
yet
they're
still
waiting
to
fill
one
more
and
then
we
I
think
we're
still
getting
some
more
applicants,
and
so
hopefully
we're
going
to
see
that
number
improve
quite
quite
drastically,
but
certainly
I'm
comfortable,
taking
100
000
off
it
right
now
and
then
we'll
we'll
keep
going.
M
B
M
M
59.
and
then
there's
there's
we
have
one
other,
our
administrative
assistant
is,
is
in
the
TPO,
am
Council.
J
A
So
Chief
had
a
question
instead
of
going
through
these
all
line
by
line,
because
some
of
these
are
somewhat
pretty
standard
and
pre-consistent
year
after
year.
So
we'll
just
go
back
to
the
questions.
If
you
don't
mind,
a
couple
questions
I
had
is
on
clothing
that
had
quite
a
bit
of
a
drop
this
last
bunch
of
or
this
current
budget
year,
but
then
you're
back
up
to
110.
Why
is
there.
M
For
is
the
is
the
firefighters
it's
like
paid
on,
like
June,
the
very
last
payment
in
June,
and
so
that's
two
percent
of
their
salaries,
and
so
so
it'll
show
like
we're
we're
training
to
not
spend
very
much
money.
But
then,
when
you
look
what's
actually
spent,
it
comes
out
to
around
110
000.
D
.,
so
if
you
look
at
what
we've
spent
so
far
in
it
shows
29
000,
but
it's
projected
at
44
000.
That's
why
I
don't
really
pay
attention
to
that
projected
too
much,
because
at
the
end
of
the
year,
that
projected
is
just
kind
of
like
thinking.
Oh
well,
we've
only
spent
this
much
this
month
so
based
on
a
trend
per
month.
However,
like
the
chief
said
at
the
end
of
the
year,
is
when
it
gets
all
one
lump
sum:
okay
and.
A
The
other
two
questions
I
had.
Can
you
please
explain
what
a
crash
response
I
mean
it's
kind
of
self-explanatory,
but
what
is
that
something.
E
M
Don't
have
we
never
had
well
this
one
brand
new,
and
so
so
that
is
a
this
is
a
grant
so
we're
not
getting
this
unless
we
get
the
grant.
So
this
is
a
it's
a
new.
It's
the
office
of
Highway
Safety
program,
I
think
that's
what
it
stands
for.
Well,
anyways!
It's
a
state
of
Michigan
grant
that
we
found
out
there
that
will.
We
can
use
it
for
a
crash
response
vehicle
and
you
know
how
we
we've
gotten
a
lot
of
extra
heavy
duty,
rescue
equipment
lately
and
we
actually
have
a
trailer.
M
This
would
be
able
to
put
it
on
there
and
act
like
a
heavy
rescue
and
so
we'd
be
able
to
take
it
out
to
to
to
different
rescue
scenarios.
There's
the
obviously
the
car
crashes,
but
also
like
a
trench
rescue
or
something
along
those
lines.
This
would
be
able
to
mount
all
that
equipment
onto
that
vehicle.
A
M
Turnout
gear
is
for
is
just
our
just
to
protect
the
coat
and
pants
and
and.
A
M
Yes,
no
she's
done
very
well
with
the
grand
sister
sure
and
there's
a
lifespan
on
her
gear
and
it's
coming
up
towards
the
end,
and
so
that's
something
that
afg
puts
a
high
priority
on.
She
looks
and
sees
what
what
they're
really
prioritizing-
and
here
is
certainly
one
of
them.
So
that's
and
then
obviously
we
have
an
engine
on
there
that
we
hope
we
get
a
new
engine.
So.
M
J
Sorry,
so
what's
the
difference
between
the
clothing
and
the
turnout
gear.
M
So
the
the
the
clothing,
what
we
use
the
clothing
allowance
for
is,
for
we
send
out
turnout
gear
to
get
repaired
and
they
send
it
back
or
it
gets
tested.
We
have
to
do
that.
That's
kind
of
like
a
maintenance
of
the
gear.
M
When
they
first
get
hired,
they
all
they
get
a
set
of
uniforms
they
get.
So
it's
not
just
just
the
group
yeah
yeah.
M
Is
that
yeah?
So
so?
No!
No!
This
is
the
same
for
for
the
police
as
well.
So
we
don't
we're
not
paid
extra
for
work
in
a
specific
holiday.
You
just
get
a
one
bonus
at
the
end
of
the
year,
based
on
the
number
of
holidays
and
there's
a
whole
formula.
That's
followed,
based
on
your
years
of
service
and
how
many
holidays
that
you've
covered
for
the
year,
but
you
don't
actually
have
to
work
them,
and
everyone
gets
this
holiday
bonus.
G
I
E
G
You
say
the
elephant
in
the
room,
the
345
pension.
It
doesn't
mention
previous
amounts.
D
Yes,
because
we'd
always
in
French
benefits
last
year,
and
we
pulled
it
out
of
there
and
put
it
in
its
own
separate
category
so
under
fringe
benefits.
Last
year
it
was
2.7,
and
this
year
we
put
it
into
the
pension
at
2.3
and
then
the
fringe
benefits
is
actually
just
the
employer
FICO.
A
On
so.
A
M
M
Some
really
strong
leads
I'm,
not
sure
exactly
how
much
I'm
I'm
allowed
to
say,
because
I
don't
know
how
official
it
is,
but
but
he's
made
a
lot
of
progress
on
getting
getting
getting
us
into
a
new
place
is
what
the
goal
is
especially
up
towards
yeah
there's
a
better
location
that
would
improve
our
response
times
and
that's
that
stuff
that
that
we've
been
we've
been
making
step
stories
and
I
have
a
couple
other
edits.
I
wanted
to
go
over
too.
E
I
M
The
in
our
contractual
Services,
we
don't
have
it.
We
used
to
always
have
our
lease
Vehicles,
which
is
it's
about
sixty
thousand
dollars
a
year
for
all
the
different
lease
vehicles
that
we
have,
that
is
our
capital
outlay
and
I
need
to
add
that
into
contractual
services,
and
so
we
need
to
add
sixty
thousand
dollars
to
the
contractual
Services
number,
so
it
become
260,
yep,
260.
M
and
and
then
I
was
hoping
to
add
40
000
to
Capital
outlay,
and
that's
that
is
just
something
I
like
to
have
for
you
know
to
have
to
have
that
at
zero
is,
is
really
impractical.
We
have
so
many
like
there's
like
our
radios,
our
portal
radio
cost
ten
thousand
dollars
now
and
we're
at
the
end
of
our
life
cycle
for
those
radios.
So
if
you
get
something,
that's
damaged
or
needs,
some
repair
reprogramming
pretty
soon.
M
C
D
E
D
A
A
So
but
but
my
only
concern
is
we
do
capital
outlay
and
we
keep
it
in
there
for
forty
thousand
dollars,
but
there's
nothing
that
you
know
of
right
now.
E
M
And
if
and
if
you
look
at,
our
I
gave
you
the
just
a
little
handout
with
our
apparatus
on
it.
You
know:
I
I
had
initially
asked
asked
for
a
new
Squad,
we're
comfortable
holding
off
on
that.
If
you
look
under
our
Squad
just
for
the
third
box
down
there,
the
last
two,
the
Hortons
are
2016..
M
Those
ones
are
going
to
need
to
be
replaced
and
my
concern
is
it
takes
about
a
year
for
them
to
build
it
from
the
I
mean
you
have
the
whole
bidding
process
and
everything
else,
and
so
you
add
that
onto
it
as
well.
So
not
this
budget,
but
next
budget
we
certainly
will
need
one
if
not
two
and
and
we
may
need
to
come
to
depending
on
how
the
rest
of
them
are
holding
up,
meaning
to
come
to
you
to
start
that
process
sooner.
M
M
Accumed
is
our
billing
company
that
we
pay
our
EMS
billing,
so
we
I
think
we'll
probably
take
in
about
1.7
million
this
year,
and
and
so
it's
around
it
comes
out
to
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
that
we
pay
to
accumed
and
then
we're
going
to
have
something.
There's
some
called
quap.
That's
a
a
service
tax
that
we
pay
that
ever
to
the
state
of
Michigan
pays.
Every
ambulance
service
has
to
pay
that
that's
about
17
000..
M
The
lease
vehicles
are
sixty
thousand
clemis
is
around
seven
thousand
and
then
there's
there's
well.
B
Okay,
okay
I
know
councilman
mentioned,
there's
something
about
the
playing
spaces
on
requested
budget
for
the
salaries
and
the
chief
responded
by
saying
that's
up
to
the
Comptroller's
office.
B
I
mean
for
you
to
request
an
amount
for
salaries
and
their
first
first
retirement
first
paid.
Is
that
something
you
normally
request,
or
is
that
up.
M
To
the
controller
yeah,
we
usually
will
provide
like
that.
They
just
want
to
know
the
personality
that,
like
we
fill
out
a
personal
page,
and
so
how
many
the
firefighters
have
different
stats.
How
many
one,
how
many
firefighters
had
the
first
first
year
second
year
third
year
and
then
how
many
total
we're
going
to
have
just
to
make
sure
it
all
adds
up,
are.
M
So
so
one
of
those
is
is
actually
going
to
be
gone.
Our
ladder
truck
is
out
for
service
right
now.
As
soon
as
that
comes
back,
then
the
the
extra
will
be
the
96.
That's
going
to
be.
That
will
be
returned,
because
that
one
is
in
worse
shape
than
the
94..
M
We
do
have
the
grant
out,
hopefully
to
get
the
to
get
that
1994
truck,
replace,
but
once
that
one's
gone,
we'll
we'll
have
so
a
2013,
a
2018
and
2021
will
those
trucks
will
be
in
service
and
we'll
only
put
the
94
in
service
as
a
last
resort,
but
we
only
need
two
in
service
each
day,
build
it
to
our
reserves.
B
It
comes
a
chair,
just
one
comment:
I've
been
doing
a
lot
of
research
on
in
different
communities
and
checking
checking
out
their
pay
scales
for
fire
and
police
and
there's
some
communities
that
are
going
to
shock
the
world
with
some
of
these
pays
that
they're
offering
the
fire
and
police-
and
we
got
to
make
sure
we
stay
in
the
ballpark
on
this
because
there
are
some.
There
are
some
that
are
like
gonna,
be
like
almost
double
what
we
remaining
I
agree.
A
million
percent
I
mean
we
gotta.
B
Look
we
gotta
look
at
what
we're
approving
you
know,
I
think
everybody
talks
about
it.
For
years
and
years
we
are
in
place
and
DPW
workers,
senior
programs
but
and
I.
Think
now
is
the
time
to
say:
freeze
everything,
let's
get
let's
get
to
where
something
we
have
to
do.
Everyone's
up
here
said
when
they
campaign,
they
say
I'm
all
about
the
fire
and
police,
giving
you
top
dollar.
B
A
I
I
think
you
know,
I
said
at
the
last
budget,
meaning
I
I
think
we're
underpaid.
In
my
personal
opinion,
we're
the
starting
pays
is
not
attractive
enough
for
I
mean
in
addition
to
the
fact.
As
far
as
the
competition's
concerns
is
much
better
higher,
if
you
want
to
call
it
and
I
know
a
lot
of
times
being
HR
and
we've
had.
Obviously
some
discriminates
as
far
as
you
know,
because
we
have
better
pension,
blah
and
I
get
it,
but
I
still
believe.
A
The
Upfront
pays
what's
going
to
attract
people,
and
but
in
addition
that
when
it
comes
to
Fire
and
Police,
you
have
people
you
look
at.
For
example,
the
incident
God
bless
our
officers
that
were
involved
with
within
chase
that
ended
at
Oakwood
and
Michigan.
Avenue
I
mean
you
know,
these
are
men
and
women
that
are
putting
their
lives
on
the
line.
And,
let's,
let's
pretend
it's
me:
it's
my
first
year
I'm
putting
my
life
on
the
line
for
40
000.
I,
honestly.
D
Can
I
intercede
just
for
one
moment
here?
I
did
want
to
mention
that
we
are
in
negotiations
and
we
are
taking
all
this
into
consideration.
We
are
definitely
on
board
with
you.
We
realize
that
our
pay,
our
salary
is
low.
However,
we
are
looking
at
ways
that
we
can
up
the
salary
by
moving
some
money
around
I
guess
I
could
say
like
and
and
again
we're
it's
just
all
negotiations.
This
is
this
is
our
time
right
now
for
negotiations,
we
just
finished
with
police
supervisors.
D
They
got
four
percent
four
percent
and
a
five
percent,
and
that
went
back
two
years
ago,
so
we
had
to
give
them
a
retro
for
a
year
and
a
half,
and
so
it
was
like
a
eight
percent
increase
and
then
we
also
are
getting
ready
to
negotiate
with
the
police
and
we
are
negotiating
with
the
firefighters
next
week.
So
this
is
all
going
to
be
ongoing
and
we
will
be
getting
them
to
some
decent
salaries.
Well,.
B
D
B
There's
no
reason
why
we
should
be
on
the
top
I
mean
we've
I've
talked
to
dozens
and
dozens
of
residents,
and
most
of
them
say,
and
if
we
need
to
increase
our
taxes
a
little
bit
we'll
do
that
I
mean
moving
money
around,
isn't
going
to
do
it.
Moving
in
money
and
advice,
you
got
to
create
some
new
money
for
our
First
Responders,
our
DPW
workers,
who
I
consider
First
Responders
to
you.
B
There's
no
reason
why
we
can't
we
want
to
pay
a
lot
of
our
employees
top
dollar,
but
when
it
comes
time
for
First,
Responders,
DPW
or
senior
workers,
it's
got
to
be
in
baby
steps.
You
can't
do
it
all
at
once,
some
departments
we
want
to
just
Jack
it
right
up.
We
want
to
add
employees
to
it.
It's
approved,
it's
proved
approved
and
it
comes
time
to
our
First
Responders.
Is
we
give
you
this
much
now?
You
know
even
four
percent
ten
percent
City
of
Southfield
they're
going
to
be
offering
their
fire
their
police
officers.
A
A
A
And
we
have
Chief
Hart
presenting
on
behalf
of
the
police
department,
the
365
fund
and
the
266
fund
Hi.
How
are
you
so
police
department
is
Page
20.
A
Okay,
I've
got
a
couple
well
more
than
a
couple,
so
the
first
question
I
had
is
on
item
706-000
under
salaries.
The
projected
activity
through
the
end
of
the
year,
the
5.6
million
5.6
and
some
change.
A
Does
this
projection
include
the
additional
officers
that
we
are
looking
to?
You
know
hopefully
hire.
N
A
Specifically,
police
officers:
what's
what's
a
project
when
you,
when
you
have
a
budget,
six
point,
I'm,
sorry,
salaries,
six
million
one
hundred
and
eighty
nine
thousand
seven.
Oh
five
does
that
include
the
projected
hires
as
far
as
police
officers
are
concerned?
Yes,
okay,
so
basically
what
that
means
is
indirectly
is
obviously
the
money's
there
and
available
to
hire
additional
officers.
Yeah,
okay
and
I
know
you're
working
on
I
know.
Some
residents
have
asked
about
different
changes
in
the
police
department.
A
N
Excuse
me
Council,
just
approved
this
week,
a
lateral
right
so
bringing
officers
in
that
with
experience
and
paying
them
more
and
I.
Think
that's
going
to
benefit
three
current
staff
members,
because
they'll
also
receive
the
bump
up
as
well.
That
was
part
of
the
deal
we're
actively
recruiting
I'm
on
a
you
know:
National
Facebook,
okay,
I'm,
getting
worried
about
it,
starting
to
whistle
putting
our
Flyers
out.
You
know
on
recruiting
Pages
Etc.
We
do
have
a
lot
of
good
things
going
for
our
community.
You
could
buy
five
years
of
service
time.
N
You
can
spend
up
to
84
months
in
the
drop
program,
so
these
are
things
that
we
need
to
really
start
highlighting
out
there
in
a
candidate
pool,
but
like
many
professions
right
now,
there's
this
thing
called
the
Great
resignation
going
on
and
we're
not
immune
to
that.
It
means
the
most
to
us
because
we're
here
in
Dearborn
Heights
and
we're
trying
to
bring
quality
people
on
board
that
are
going
to
come
out
and
provide
the
best
service
to
the
community.
N
I
think
probably
the
the
the
theme
for
this
2023-2024
budget
year
is
really
kind
of
right
sizing.
There
has
been
in
the
past,
they've
had
a
secretary
of
the
detective
Bureau.
What
we
in
essence,
what
we're
doing
is
we're
paying
higher
wages
to
licensed
police
officers
to
do
work
that
civilians
can
do
so
if
we
can
rework
that
into
other
bargaining
groups
like
t-pom
and
free
up
police
officers
to
do
law
enforcement
work,
because
you
have
to
have
a
license
to
be
a
police
officer.
N
But
we
have
a
couple
people
who
are
licensed
police
officers
who
are
not
doing
police
work.
So
we're
looking
to
add
to
our
record
section,
to
free
up
the
paperwork,
to
get
cases
over
to
the
court
to
handle
our
subpoenas
a
lot
of
things
that
other
communities
that
offer
these
higher
wages.
They
are
creating
these
positions
and
and
having
civilians.
Do
this
work.
So
detectives
can
go
out
in
work
cases
instead
of
trying
to
enter
the
information
into
the
new
electronic
system
for
the
prosecutor's
office.
A
The
salary
does
that
include
the
two
directors
that
were
added
in
the
in
the
current
fiscal
year:
yes,
okay
and
the
anticipation
with
the
two
directors,
and
only
if
you
can
address
that.
Obviously,
if
you
can't
I
respect
that
in
terms
of
safety
are
those
those
are
not
permanent.
Obviously,
positions
they're,
not
if
I'm,
not
sticking
were
they
not
on
a
somewhat
of
a
specific
timeline.
No.
N
K
K
And
when
the
chief
and
the
two
director
showed
up
I
was
already
almost
recruiting
two
officer,
if
you
want
to
say
for
more
department,
and
so
when
the
chief,
when
you
guys
left
I,
stayed
another
hour
afterwards,
I
think
I
was
talking
about
10
officers
and
at
least
half
of
them.
They
were
really
interested.
They
said
they
love
I.
When
they
met
with
you
and
the
two
directors
they
said.
We
didn't
know
that
they
were.
You
know
we
like
the
changes
going
on
in
that
department
and
five
of
them
will
be
applying.
K
N
Bought
five
years,
you
can
go
into
the
drop
program
for
seven
years,
so
it's
actually
a
very,
very
nice
benefit
that
we
have
for
our
police
officers
and.
K
Those
there's
five
that
are
really
interested,
even
three
of
them
had
about
six
or
seven
years
with
the
Department,
but
you
know
when
they
met
the
chief.
You
know
after
he
left.
You
know
they
I
know
they
had
a
chat
with
you
and
during
that
dinner
they
were
like
really
interested.
They
said
you
know
they're
willing
to
take
them,
they
pay
down
just
so
they
can
come
in
and
be
able
to
get
into
the
drop.
Actually
three
of
them.
They
were
really
I
mean
that's
asking
about
the
drop,
so
I
told
him.
K
I
said
they
need
to
talk
to
you
about
that.
One
I
didn't
know
too
much
about
it,
but
I
mean
there
was
at
least
five
or
six
from
last
night's
event,
and
these
are
like
season
officers
between
three
to
seven
years.
You
know
experience
and
they
were
from
various
departments.
You
know
obviously
I
can't
stay
from
where
but
I
know
the
one
Chief
came
in.
We
were
trying
to
recruit
two
of
his
people.
He
was
really
pissed
off,
but.
A
A
You
know
during
the
bargaining
we've
added
and
approved
as
a
council
body,
the
lateral
movement
thing,
because
that's
going
to
be
able
to
attract
a
lot
more
experienced
officers
into
our
department,
which
is
is
obviously
needed.
You
always
want
experience.
You
never
want
to
lose
people
with
experience,
and
you
also
want
to
bring
in
people's
experience.
N
Yeah,
it's
a
balance
right
now,
I
mean
a
lot
of
the
people
that
are
I,
believe
there's
five
people
on
the
current
list.
The
majority
of
them
have
experience
that
were
that
are
in
the
background
phase
at
this
point,
so
we
certainly
want
those
experience,
but
we
also
had
acts.
78
approve,
accepting
those
grants
from
amcols
I
think
it's
up
to
26
Grants
to
cover
the
cost
of
the
academy.
Only
4
000
comes
back
to
the
city,
but
it's
better
than
nothing
and
I
think
that's
a
great
way
to
build
reciprocal
loyalty
right.
N
That
is
going
through
the
academy
and
they
come
here
and
we're
their
first
police
job
right.
I
feel
that
that
builds
quite
a
bit
of
loyalty
there,
a.
K
Consul
chair
one
of
the
things
so
yesterday
for
the
officers
I
was
talking
to
they
were
Dearborn
Heights
residents
and
they're
they've
told
me
that
they
were
as
officers.
They
have
seen
some
of
the
changes.
You
know
they're
talking
to
other
officers
who
who
remain
with
us
obviously,
and
they
they
love.
What's
going
on
in
that
chain,
so
they're
they're
talking
and
these
four
officers,
you
know
being
Dearborn
Heights
presidents,
you
know
they're,
really
interested.
One
of
them
was
not
interested
in
coming
to
Dearborn
Heights.
A
N
Yeah
there's
a
Reserve
Academy
coming
up
mid-summer
yeah
that
we
hope
to
get
some
more
Reserve
officers
through
the
academy
and
then
get
them
out
and
just
have
them
be
a
visible
presence.
But.
N
Yeah
we
have
I
didn't
bring
my
miles.
N
We
could
be
more
active,
we
could
have
a
more
active
cert
team,
get
them
engaged
in
things
that
are
going
on.
N
Yeah
yep
yeah,
we
have
several
applications:
Lieutenant,
Jay,
catton
and
director
vanderplower
are
working
their
way
through
those
okay,
Council.
E
J
I,
don't
know
if
maybe
I
don't
know
if
the
chief
will
be.
The
control
can
I
answer
this
question.
So
since
we
budgeted
for
our
full
staff
department,
how
come
the
overtime
I
know,
it
seems,
like
the
department
requested
431
for
the
overtime,
but
we
gave
them.
657
I
mean
the
recommended
budget
in
a
way.
D
Okay,
last
year's
amended
budget
was
650
000,
so
we
figured
that
we
could.
When
we're
fully
staffed.
We
felt
that
657
was
a
good
place,
even
though
they
had
requested
431
being
that
they
are
still
using
overtime
and
if
we're
not
fully
staffed,
we
wanted
to
keep
it
at
6,
57.
N
Know
it's
it's
it's
a
hard
thing
to
predict
in
law
enforcement.
You
know
if
we
have
a
couple
of
major
incidents
and
I
need
the
investigators
to
come
in.
You
know-
or
we
have
vacancies
I
think
Mr
Wenzel
had
mentioned
about.
You
know
some
of
the
other
communities
that
are
paying
significantly
more.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
our
officers.
Our
younger
officers
are
going
to
those
communities
right
and
and
making
significantly
more.
So
it's
really
kind
of
a
balancing
act
of
it's
always
been
a
moving
Target
for
32
years.
N
For
me
on
the
overtime,
it's
my
goal
to
not
spend
all
of
the
overtime
budget
right
to
reduce
that
and
then
invest
in
our
police
officers.
I
want
our
police
officers
to
be
with
their
families.
I
don't
want
them
at
work,
all
the
time
working,
Traffic,
Safety
or
ddacs.
They
should
be
home
on
their
days
off
spending
time
with
their
family
and
de-escalating
and
relaxing
so
we're
trying
to
find
creative
ways
to
make
that
happen
at
the
police
department
and
so.
C
I
B
You,
how
many
officers
are
you
budgeting
for
in
this
budget.
B
So
47
yeah
and
last
year
was
roughly
the
same
47.
you
know
give
or
take
one
or
two,
maybe
or
something
yes,.
N
Yeah,
even
that
is
kind
of
a
a
little
bit
of
a
moving
Target
in
the
sense
of
people,
have
been
allowed
and
still
are
currently
allowed
to
leave
and
use
their
time.
So
it
looks
like
we
have
five
or
six
more
people
than
we
actually
have
that
are
simply
not
contributing
to
the
mission
of
the
police
department,
but
they're
burning
off
their
excessive
leave
time.
So
it's
it's
really
a
hard
number
to
dial
in.
B
On
so
we
it's
safe
to
say
that
we've
never
reached
the
47
or
whatever
correct
now
I
it
was.
This
question
was
asked
before
and
he
said
where's
that
extra
money
go
and
they
said
you
can't
go
into
the
general
funds.
Is
that
right?
The
extra
money
is
not
spent.
Absolutely
yes
now
is
that
in
is
that
in
our
budget
somewhere.
Does
that
show
that
money?
Yes,
yes,
it
does.
What's
it
under.
D
D
D
H
B
N
Under
the
Michigan
Commission
on
law
enforcement
standards,
if
they
pass
the
background,
they
pass
the
physical
everything
to
get
into
the
academy,
and
then
we
hire
them
as
an
employee.
Then
I
want
to
say
it's
24,
000
I
think
up
to
20
to
cover
the
academy,
and
then
four
thousand
dollars
comes
back
to
the
city.
So.
B
I
mean
is
there
if
my
son
wants
to
join
the
academy,
does
he
have
to
pay
anything
out
of
pocket?
I
do
not
believe
so.
No,
no,
no!
That's
a
good
thing!
I
I
looked
at
the
paom
website
and
they
have
several
municipalities.
Advertising
and
I,
see
I
didn't
see
anything
from
Dearborn
Heights
on
there.
N
B
B
You
know
I
I'm,
very
passionate
about
certain
things,
and
you
know
one
of
them's
crossing
guards.
I'm
I
do
crossing
guard
every
day
myself,
and
it
was
stated
about
five
months
ago
that
the
city
of
Dearborn
Heights
was
going
to
get
people
from
Wayne
County
to
come
in
and
help
us
with
crossing
guards.
N
B
N
B
N
B
Look
I
look
up
to
me.
Okay
and
another
thing
is
you
know,
we've
got
a
lot
of
officers,
see
what
you
will
about
them.
I
mean
in
my
opinion.
You
know
an
officer.
Any
officer
that
we
have
is
good.
I
mean
all
right,
but
we've
had
a
lot
of
officers
leaving
and
there's
no
acknowledgment
anywhere
on
them.
B
I
know
I
mean
if
they're
retiring.
You
know,
thanks
for
your
service,
I
mean
there's
several
and
recently
recently
and
they're
never
mentioned
yeah.
N
First
of
all,
I'd
be
really
careful
about
where
you
get
information
I'm.
Finding
that
there's
always
an
agenda
when
we're
talking
about
police,
Staffing
I
know
that
council
members
have
corrected
community
members
about
saying
that
people
have
quit
when
people
have
actually
retired.
So
that's
very
disheartening.
It's
almost
like
police
officers
aren't
allowed
to
retire
if
they're
at
the
end
of
their
drop
program
they
that
someone
labels
them
as
quitting
each
individual.
That
has
given
me
notice
and
some
people
give
me
12
hours
notice.
N
N
B
He
retired
and
he's
taking
some
vacation
time
now
or
something
like
that.
He
turned
in
his
paperwork
and
unless
it's
a
secret
I
mean
you
know,
this
is
I.
Don't
I,
don't
understand
why
I
don't
care
if
the
guy's
a
bad
guy.
He
said
you
know
what
thanks
for
your
service
have.
N
N
B
We're
talking
about
employment-
and
you
know,
there's
in
this
this
contract
with
the
command
officers.
They
they.
These,
not.
These
officers
are
retiring
and
they're.
Getting
this
massive
amount
of
comp
time
lump
sum
payments,
and
that
goes
into
their
High
highest
year
of
salary,
and
some
of
these
people
are
going
to
be
getting
the
pension.
Because
of
that
you
know:
100,
000,
plus
retirement
pension
and
I'd
like
to
see
an
actual
actuary
actual
actuarity.
What
was
it
actually
yeah
report
on
on
this?
This
command
office?
Association?
B
That's
that's,
got
layers
and
layers
of
effect,
all
the
way
down
to
you
know,
years
from
now
the
pension
and
retirement
and
we've
never
got
an
actuary
on
on
now,
I'd
like
to
see
that
too
and
see
what
projected
what
that's
going
to
cost
the
city,
not
only
the
raises,
but
these
buyouts
are
these
comp
hours,
I
mean
there's,
there's
officers
that
are
single,
they
don't
even
have
no
family
and
all
they
do
is
get
comp
hours
and
they're
piling
them
up.
B
A
So
I'm
not
sure
if
there's
one
available,
I
presume
not
and
if
there's
one
to
be
done,
we'd
have
to
present
it
obviously
to
the
city
council,
because
it's
got
to
be
approved.
It's
it's
not
something.
It's
like
a
hundred
dollars
or
fifty
dollars,
it's
relatively
expensive.
So
it's
something
that
is
accountable.
They.
I
It
the
last
three
good
years:
it's
not
the
last
two
correct
for
the
pension.
N
Final
average
compensation
if
I
just
may
address
this,
is
that
we
did
reduce
that
liability
to
the
city
significantly
in
this
last
contract,
we're
trying
to
readjust
and
reinvest
into
our
employees
in
proper
areas.
Time
off
doesn't
pay
bills.
This
is
not
a
new
problem.
This
is
something
that
has
been
gone
going
on
over
and
over
and
over
again
employees
being
allowed
to
buy
sick
time,
employees
calling
in
sick
and
shorting
their
shift
to
go
to
someone's
40th
birthday
party.
This
isn't
a
chief
heart
problem.
N
This
is
a
systemic
problem
right
and
we
want
to.
We
want
to.
We
want
to
address
those
issues,
Mr
Wenzel,
in
these
contracts,
it's
it's,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day
those
were
hours
that
were
earned
and
we
should
honor
that
exactly
we're
just
we're
trying
to
shave
this
down.
There
has
been
a
you
know,
a
dynamic
here
in
play
where
you
know
Banks
and
caps
were
not.
No
one
was
watching
them
and
that's
and
that's
problematic,
but
our
employees
did
work
them
and,
and
they
earned
those
right.
N
So
it's
really
kind
of
a
it's.
A
challenge
and
I
think
we've
done
pretty
well
on
our
dispatchers
and
our
Command
officers,
starting
to
correct
some
of
some
of
that,
and-
and
you
know
you
bring
up
a
valid
point-
you
know
that's
just
something
that
that
we
have
been
working
on.
You.
B
H
B
N
Yeah,
it
was
three
years:
okay,
I
I,
correct
me
if
I'm
wrong,
but
it's
my
understanding
that,
due
to
the
payouts
being
so
large
that
there's
an
agreement
that
they're
paid
out
over
a
three-year
period,
so
I
don't
know.
If
that
was
your.
C
C
N
Had
folks
with
I
want
to
say,
1400
banked
hours,
people
were
exchanging
comp
hours
to
buy
their
Duty
pistols.
It's
just
been.
It's
been
a
very
it's
an
odd
situation
that
we're
trying
to
get
a
hold
of.
We
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
putting
good
contracts
in
front
of
you
and
we
we
take
that
fiduciary
responsibility
very
seriously.
Okay,
so.
N
Earned
at
time
and
a
half
generally,
but
what
I
would
like
to
what
I'd
like
to
kind
of
highlight
here
is
that
we
paid
those
hours
off
at
today's
dollars.
Right
so,
let's
say
an
employee
had
another
10
years
on
the
job
and
they
were
cashing
in
that
comp
at
that
point,
presumably
their
pay
would
be
higher,
so
it
was
a.
D
B
D
G
Right
excuse
me:
Tim,
I'd
like
to
get
back
to
the
crossing
guards.
If
I
could
we're
taking
a
deduction
of
about
10
000
and
what
I
saw
this
past
week,
we
need
to
keep
it
the
same
or
higher.
I
was
at
Annapolis
and
party
on
Monday
morning.
There
were
no
crossing
guards
at
all.
Yeah
we've
already
had
that
sad
experience.
Tuesday
I
was
at
Bedford
when
they
were
getting
out.
No
crossing
guards
total
confusion
with
a
traffic
pattern.
N
Seen
the
behavior
firsthand
with
council
member
Ahmad
I
mean
we
see
how
people
are
behaving
I've
had
to
jump
in
front
of
a
it,
was
an
expedition
that
day
and
stop
I'm
like
what
are
you
doing
right
as
soon
as
he
dropped
his
kid
off
his
obligation
to
drive
safely
and
his
mind,
ended
right
and
was
speeding
off
and
it's
we
at
some
point.
People
just
have
to
be
responsible
for
their
own
actions
and
we
need
we
need
to
to
learn
again
on
how
to
be
kind
to
each
other.
N
N
We
will
be
happy
to
take
you.
We
we
even
looked
into
because
this
again
it's
it
matters
to
us
because
we're
in
Dearborn
Heights,
but
this
isn't
just
an
us
problem.
I
know
there
are
companies
out
there
that
we
actually
looked
to
interact
with
who
would
guarantee
people
would
be
at
the
post.
It
was
very,
very.
N
That's
kind
of
blurring
the
lines
a
little
bit
there,
but
you
know
we're
we're
trying
to
find
trying
to
find
solutions
to
many
problems
and-
and
we
will
do
our
very
best.
A
Or
there's
another
one,
you
know
for
for
a
different
Honors
Society
like
at
different
high
schools
for
community
service
yeah
and
then
I
built
a
resume
for
their
colleges.
Yeah.
N
You
still
have
your
orange
belt.
Do
you
still
have
your.
A
A
D
D
N
Much
I
think,
like
you
had
mentioned
earlier,
about
the
the
pursuit
on
Monday
star
Chase,
is
a
device
that
we
would
launch
from
the
patrol
vehicle
from
the
front
of
the
patrol
vehicle
to
attach
to
a
suspect
vehicle
that
was
fleeing
the
police
and
then
we
would
pull
back
and
then
we
would
follow
the
vehicle
on
GPS.
N
I
That's
in
their
negligence
department,
they
had
to
stop
and.
D
Then
20
he
was
requesting
Furniture
items
for
dispatch
front
desk
and
that
was
20
pieces
for
twenty
five
thousand
five
hundred.
A
N
Think
that
what
we've
allocated
money
for
and
maybe
I'm
wrong
on,
this
was
based
out
and
updating
for
the
design.
I
think
it
was
right,
it's
the
company
to
come
in
and
design
and
then
there's
going
to
be
a
whole
budget
in
that
process.
What
we
have
right
now
is
a
lot
of
chairs
for
our
dispatchers
that
are
just
falling
apart,
The
Ripping
on
the
top.
We
want
to
get
something:
that's
very
robust
and
durable,
that
is
their
office
for
20.
no
I'm.
There.
A
N
A
chair,
they're,
pretty
expensive
I,
don't
think
it's
just
chairs,
I
think
there's
some
also
there's
some
monitors
that
we
want
to
put
up
at
the
at
the
front
desk,
so
our
officers
working
the
front
desk
can
also
look
up
and
see
prisoners
and
other
things
excuse
me
around
the
building
and.
N
Could
be,
we
have
offered
some
of
those
Vehicles
up
to
other
departments
in
the
past.
We
just
need
to
make
sure
that
if
those
vehicles
have
been
purchased
with
forfeiture
money,
so
we
go
through
and
I
asked
our
Administrative
Assistant
to
put
stickers
on
the
titles
that
say
if
this
vehicle's
ever
sold
it
that
money
has
to
go
back
into
those
forfeiture
accounts.
So
we
don't
run
afoul
of
the
federal
government.
Okay,
yeah.
N
B
A
couple
things
control:
you
said
you
were
approached
in
the
hallway
by
a
gentleman
director,
Police
director,
Vanderbilt
Vanderbilt.
Where
was
his
request
negotiated
and
said
you
want
this
we'll
give
you
this
or
Z
took
it,
and
we
put
it
in
here.
Foreign.
N
Well,
our
capital
outlays
is
my
understanding,
we're
all
pulled
out
of
the
budget,
and
these
are
items
that
we
discussed
and
asked
to
be
put
back
in
we've
asked
we
asked
for
much
more
I
think
there
were
nine
items
that
we
had
asked
for
in
the
capital
outlay.
We
asked
for
additional
flock
cameras.
The
CLIA
accreditation
program,
we're
going
to
be
putting
in
for
about
a
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollar
grant
for
Kalia.
We
just
wanted
to
get
a
head
start
on
that.
N
It's
the
commission
for
the
accreditation
of
law
enforcement
agencies,
something
that
we
feel
will
really
accelerate
our
work
at
the
police
department.
We
that's
been
pulled
out.
The
star
Chase
we
asked
to
stay
in
the
portable
Towers
were
out,
so
if
you
have
something
there
for
145
000,
those
are
portable
towers
that
have
a
blue
light.
N
If
you
come
by
the
Home
Depot
next
to
the
police
department,
you'll
see
the
towers
up
there
with
the
flashing
blue
lights,
so
we
were
going
to
deploy
those
and
some
of
our
higher
crime
areas
as
a
deterrence
and
then
to
try
to
develop
some
more
leads
for
our
investigators.
The
vehicle
stayed
in
the
furniture
items
for
dispatch
shouldn't
stay
in,
but
we
were
requesting
that
upgrade
and
certify
the
range
operations
for
200
000
and
retrofit
our
jail
areas
for
250
000.
B
Okay,
thank
you
back
to
this
Star
Wars
thing.
Where
it
shoots
a
star
ride.
The
car
and
star
Chase
I
mean.
Is
it
magnetic
all
right.
N
I
mean
there's,
there's
bullet;
no,
it's
it's
I
mean
I.
Guess
it's
a
projectile,
so
it
wouldn't
necessarily
be
a
bullet,
but
it
is
a
projectile.
That's
fired
from
one
vehicle
from
a
police
vehicle
to
the
suspect
vehicle,
and
then
it
sticks
onto
the
vehicle
itself.
I,
don't
know
what
the
proprietary
material
is,
but
it
sticks
so
something
yeah,
something
that
police
departments
are
deploying.
I
was
listening
to
a
report
on
WJR
I.
Believe
NYPD
just
requested
several
of
them
in
their
budget
as
well.
B
N
Yeah,
it's
not
the
velocity
of
it
and
the
energy
behind
it
is
not
something
like
22
bullet
or
whatever
that's
going
to
carry
on
for
what
about
reloading
it
once
it's
used.
I
do
not
know.
I
do
not
know
the
answer
to
that.
A
You
yeah
okay,
so
next
up
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
go
to
page
44
to
265
fund.
A
And
the
next
week,
265
and
266
fund
we've
got
pretty
self-explanatory,
but
we'll
have
briefing
on
that
page
44.
First.
N
If
it's
forfeiture
money,
we
have
two
line
items.
We
either
have
a
federal
or
a
state
line
item,
so
the
items
that
are
put
in
front
of
you
at
Council
for
let's
say
from
Wayne
County
for
various
grants.
Those
would
go
into
the
state
forfeiture
fund.
We
do
have
still
have
one
individual
who's
assigned
out
to
the
drug
enforcement
administration's
task
force.
N
So
we're
expecting
a
significant
amount
of
bad
guys
money
to
influx
here
in
the
next
six
to
12
months,
so
this
fund
will
grow
and
there
are
limitations
on
what
we
can
and
cannot
spend
that
money
on
and
that
money
will
not
zero
out
and
go
into
the
fund
balance
at
the
end
of
the
year.
This
is
very
protected
and
restricted
funds
for
what
they
use
for.
In
general,
we
can
use
it
to
buy
vehicles
all
kinds
of
things.
I,
certainly
don't
want
to
sit
on
a
bunch
of
money.
N
If
there's
ways
for
us
to
contribute,
you
know
not
like
the
fire
department.
There
are
opportunities
for
us
to
use
bad
guys
and
girls
money
to
buy
things.
So
we
want
to
be
good
stewards
of
the
public
funds,
so
if
there's
an
opportunity
and
it
swells
we're
using
it
for
the
body
cameras
which
I
have
on
so
there's
there's
many
things
that
we
can
use
it
for
I'm,
hoping
to
to
use
it
for
some
officer,
Wellness
programs
and
such
so.
N
How
that
works?
We
have,
we
have
the
accounts
and
they're
separated
by
state
or
federal
forfeiture,
so
there
are
accounts
and
they
get
deposited
into
our
forfeiture
accounts,
but
we
also
get
audited
on
those
and
have
to
follow
certain
rules
about
what
we
spend
that
money
on.
We
can't,
for
instance,
just
say
we
want
to
give
everybody
a
raise
and
pull
that
money
out
of
there.
We.
N
A
Other
questions
on
page
44,
265
fund,
the
next
one
is
the
266
fund,
which
is
on
page
46.,
and
this
is
Appropriations
from
confiscated.
Money
is
federal.
D
D
A
All
right
anything
on
your
own
cheese,
no,
okay,
thank
you
Chief,
but
you
can
stay
there
just
in
case,
if
you
don't
mind,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
go
to
anybody
on
Zoom
or
anybody
in
the
audience.
Public
comments
just
in
case.
A
Okay,
Mr
Jamal
go
ahead
and
please
let
us
know
if
you're
speaking
as
a
director
or
as
a
resident.
O
Good
afternoon,
I
am
speaking
just
want
to
make
a
comment
regarding
you
know
something.
Maybe
you
should
know
because
I
know,
when
you
look
at
the
front,
the
101
we
look
at
the
account.
The
101
means
the
name
of
the
font.
The
the
second
one
is
the
department
then,
after
that
is
the
account
in
that
department.
Then
the
last
one
is
the
year
you
are
in.
So
if
you
look
at
the
265
or
266
or
one
or
three,
they
are
not
the
general
fund,
so
101
is
the
general
fund.
O
You're
collecting
as
a
general
operation
of
the
city
of
the
urban
Heights,
those
are
controlled
non
non-restricted
operational
that
you
are
allowed,
okay
under
the
role
to
deal
with
them
without
the
sections
any
fund
outside
the
101,
which
is
some
of
them,
are
obliated
by
state
regulations
by
Federal
Regulation
by
the
fund
itself.
Those
are
categorized.
O
O
O
Okay,
you
use
that
particular
you
know
allocation
when
it's
materialized,
that
when
you
sign
the
agreement
as
a
reimbursement-
and
you
get
your
money
back
to
the
general
fund,
a
full
account,
so
you
don't
put
it
from
the
budget,
but
you
put
it
from
the
front
bearings
you
pay
for
it
as
a
loan.
Then
you
get
it
back.
Okay,
let's
see,
if
budgeted.
A
I
would
suggest
the
controller
reach
out
to
Mr
Jamal,
because
I
know
on
based
on
director
Jamal's
comments
there,
the
two
items
under
the
fire
department,
those
are
under
101,
so
you
may
have
to
maybe
get
together
with
Mr
Jamal
in
the
controller
and
maybe
make
adjustments,
as
you
know,
provided
what
he's
saying
is
is
workable.
We've.
O
Had
issues
before
when
I
was
a
director
for
the
budget
and
Grant
compliance,
we
faint
issues
that
that
Trump
being
spent
from
general
fund
101
on
anticipated,
grant
that
never
materialized
and
or
or
delayed
and
later
on
in
that
create.
That
creates
a
problem
for
the
Cash
Flow
Free
problem
for
the
ability
of
the.
E
A
H
Rachel
Lapointe
Merrick,
Street,
Dearborn
Heights,
so
a
couple
comments,
I
would
love
to
see
our
emergency
manager
Bob
be
like
kind
of
the
face
of
communicating
with
the
community
when
an
emergency
happens.
He
is
so.
This
is
I,
know
he's
here.
So
I
I
want
him
to
hear
this.
H
Just
as
an
idea
for
him
and
I
was
really
glad
to
hear
him
say
that
we're
bringing
back
like
the
cert
training
and
stuff
I
think
that
that's
really
needed,
especially
for
the
South
End,
like
I,
would
love
to
see
teams
in
the
neighborhoods
getting
set
up
so
that
when
we
flood
we're
ready
to
go
like
with
a
phone
tree
to
check
on,
you
know
the
seniors
in
the
neighborhood,
and
we
know
who's
in
charge
of
that
in
the
neighborhood.
I
think
he's
got
a
I.
H
Can
tell
he's
got
a
lot
of
great
ideas
for
that,
and
then
I
was
just
kind
of
thinking
about
what
the
chief
said
about
us
needing
to
be
kind
to
each
other
and
like
if
it's
covet
or
something
like
that
and
I
think
it
is
I.
Think
we've
all
been
traumatized
by
the
pandemic
and
just
what's
been
going
on
and
I
know.
There's
been
a
lot
of
things
in
the
budget
for
trainings
and
stuff
and
I
know
our
HR
Director
talked
about
doing
some
like
customer
service.
H
Trainings
I
would
just
suggest
that,
when
we're
finding
those
different
trainings
for
all
the
Departments
this
year
that
we
look
for
things
that
are
trauma
informed,
because
if
we're
not
keeping
that
in
mind
that
we're
traumatized
as
residents,
but
you
guys
who
are
working
here,
you
all
went
through
the
same
thing.
We're
all
kind
of
in
this
place
where
it's
really
hard
to
get
anything
done.
And
when
we're
trained
to
keep
that
in
mind.
H
I
think
it'll
really
go
a
long
way
towards
rebuilding
the
trust
between
the
community
and
the
city
in
the
different
departments
and
rebuilding
kind
of
that.
Hopeful
attitude
that
we
need,
so
that
was
just
kind
of
my
suggestion
and
then
I
did
have
a
question
about
the
forfeiture
funds.
H
If
I
love
the
idea
of
using
it
for
mental
wellness
and
stuff
for
the
officers,
but
could
it
also
be
used
for
something
like
a
community
event
like
the
National
Night
Out,
something
like
that
I,
don't
know
if
that's
something
that
would
be
allowed
under
that
I.
Don't
know
if
you
know
that
answer
off
the
top
of
your
head,
I.
N
I
feel
that
if
it
has
to
do
with
crime
prevention,
it's
something
certainly
that
we
can
do
kind
of
a
little
I,
don't
want
to
get
too
far
ahead
of
what's
coming.
But
I
did
some
get
some
excellent
news
from
the
doj
cops
office
that
they're
going
to
be
coming
here.
N
We're
going
to
be
doing
some
Community
forums,
they're
going
to
be
investing
a
lot
of
money
and
time
over
the
next
18
to
24
months,
into
the
police
department,
some
training
and
at
the
event
we
were
at
last
night
even
talked
about
opening
that
up
to
some
of
our
surrounding
communities,
because
many
of
us
drive
through
Dearborn
and
other
communities.
And
maybe
we
share
this
leadership
and
wellness
message
with
everyone.
C
N
N
Sure
we
certainly
want
to
get
much
better
on
the
community
relations
piece
and
building
those
relationships
and
being
more
transparent,
we're
very
close
to
launching
a
transparency,
dashboard
I,
think
that
will
the
community
will
really
get
engaged
in.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
things
going
on
like
a
lot
of
departments
working
at
capacity,
but
we're
gonna
we're.
You
know
we
have
several
people
that
want
to
join
the
police
department
and
we
really
can't
begrudge
anyone
for
you
know
moving
on
to
other
opportunities,
but.
D
H
H
A
D
I
just
have
one
last
thing:
I'm,
sorry,
okay,
I
just
want
to
clarify
a
couple
things
and
I'd
like
you
to
just
go
to
page
33,
and
this
is
your
general
fund
budget.
There
was
something
that
was
mentioned
on
Tuesday
that
we
had
taken
2.8
million
dollars
out
of
the
general
fund,
balance
to
balance
the
budget
and
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
that
that
was
last
year.
That
was
not
this
year
and
this
year.