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Part 2 of the Dearborn Heights Budget Wrap Up taking place Tuesday, May 18th 2021 via Zoom.
A
A
We
agreed
today
to
split
it
up
and
just
do
the
salaries
today,
because
we
were
going
too
long
last
friday
at
this
time
we
are
on
page
nine
and
we
do
have
three
employees
on
this
line
that
do
not
follow
under
union
contracts.
That
is
the
administrative
assistant,
the
executive
secretary
and
the
director
of
grants.
C
B
We
make
the
administrative
assistant
under
different
name
administration
affairs
director,
and
I
would
like
to
set
that
salary
at
80
000
and
it's
not
necessary
that
we
will
give
that
person
80
000.
If
the
mayor
wants
to
give
any
amount,
we
would
like
him
to
come
back
to
the
city
council
with
an
amendment
for
that
salary.
A
D
B
I'm
just
setting
the
position
at
that
much
it
doesn't
have
to
be
the
present
or
the
past
or
any
future
person
who
comes
in
my
goal
is
really
to
attract
the
best
to
our
city,
so
we
have
competitive
salaries
with
other
cities,
and
I
looked
at
the
salaries
in
the
region
around
us.
This
is
a
very
fair,
very
average
salary.
B
It's
not
outrageous,
and
previously
the
previous
administration
have
suggested
80
000
and
we
approved
it
actually,
but
because
of
what
the
previous
administration
did
by
moving
his
assistant
to
another
job,
to
give
her
an
increase,
because
she
didn't
get
an
increase,
the
city
council.
We
all
remember
that
they
took
all
the
increases
away
because
of
what
was
done.
D
B
D
A
E
B
F
F
I
don't
know
if
I
can
even
say
that
I'd
like
to
see
the
director
of
grants
be
a
permanent
position
instead
of
the
six
months,
because
that
position
is
very
important
and
it's
bringing
in
extra
money
to
the
city
and
we
keep
that
salary.
Roughly
the
same
it'll
attract
someone.
F
If
one
day
mr
jamal
leaves
but
I'm
okay
with
the
75
thousand
dollars
and
the
76
thousand
dollars,
because
the
way
abdel
councilman
of
dallas
wants
to
do
it,
then
the
mayor
just
come
back
and
give
us
he's
gonna.
Do
it
he's
going
to
be
bringing
back
a
budget
amendment
for
that?
So
we
might
as
well
just
do
it
now
and
I
think
75
000
is
fair
and
76.
000
is
fair.
G
So
I
have
a
couple
of
comments.
The
first
comment
is
in
regards
to
councilman's
or
have
hawks
proposal.
I'm
I'm
I'm
in
disagreement
with
that
type
of
a
formula,
and
my
reasoning
is
this:
we
would
be
given
too
much
powers,
and
this
is
no
reflection
on
the
current
mayor.
This
is
on
any
mirror.
That's
in
power,
too
much
power
to
any
mayor
to
to
set
the
salary,
and
I
think,
with
our
jobs
as
being
the
legislative
end
and,
most
importantly,
the
ones
that
are
in
charge
of
budgeting.
G
I
I
still
think
that
particular
I
don't
use
the
words
power,
maybe
the
decision
making.
I
think
we
should
still
be
involved
with
that
decision-making
process.
Therefore,
I
don't
believe
it's
the
right
thing
to
say,
hence
forward
mayor.
You
have
up
to
this
much
and
you
could
decide
on
your
and
I
just
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea.
I
think
we
should
set
a
particular
salary
and
give
it
on
a
case-by-case
basis,
so
this
is
respectfully
disagreeing
with
councilman
in
regards
to
a
couple
of
other
things.
G
As
far
as
the
salary
for
the
administrator
class
and
first
of
all,
I
I
personally
I
try
to
avoid
the
words
assistant.
I
don't
like
those
words,
I
prefer
chief
of
staff
or
some
along
the
lines
of
that,
but
I
think
initially,
right
now
being
that
she
is
newer
to
our
city.
I
don't
believe
we
should
jump
to
such
a
high
salary
right
away.
I
think
she
could
do
a
good
job.
G
G
On
the
executive
secretary,
I
know
there
was
no
changes
and
on
the
director
of
grants,
I'd
like
to
get
an
assessment
with
your
permission,
council,
chair
from
the
mayor
in
regards
to
that
particular
position,
because
that's
a
position
right
now
that
we
put
in
place
at
the
time
we
put
it
for
a
180
day
period
and
before
I
accept
personally
to
continue
to
it,
doesn't.
G
Personal,
it's
not
for
a
specific
person,
I'm
talking
about
the
actual
position
to
continue
with
that
position.
I'd
like
to
hear
from
the
mayor
as
to
what
that
position
has
done
now,
I'm
talking
about
as
far
as
end
result.
What
has
that
brought
into
our
city
end
result
not
what
somebody's
applied
for
and
anybody
can
apply
for,
a
grant
actually
brought
in
or
at
least
close
to
bringing
in,
and
then
I
would
see
how
much
potential
for
that
particular
position
would
be
there.
There
would
be
I'm
sorry,
thank
you.
I
Yeah,
thank
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
for
that
question.
So
a
few
few
things
one
is
obviously
that
the
position
you
know
with
the
council's
request
and
council
approving
that
position.
I
I've
had
the
opportunity
to
assess
a
lot
of
things
that
mr
jamal
was
doing
and
since,
since
he
hit
the
ground
running,
he
hit
the
ground
running.
Obviously
you
guys
are
aware
from
what
I
brought
forward
some
of
the
concerns
and
issues
that
we
that
was
brought
forth.
You
know
against
the
city.
I
He
was
able
to
get
us
a
lot
of
information,
especially
with
non-conformist
with
the
state,
so
he
was
able
to
engage
that
you
know
he
was.
He
was
underground
discussing
stuff
you
know
between
you
know.
We
had
a
several
discussions
with
the
state
trying
to
get
give
us
some
time
to
answer
the
ques,
the
questions
and
the
concerns
for
the
non-conformist
so
he's
actually
working
on
the
portion.
I
As
you
all
know,
we
we
did
not
have
any
processes
in
place
for
contractors
to
get
the
work.
It
was
I
mean
I'm
I
I
don't
like
to
say
this
word,
but
it
was
a
free
for
all.
I
On
a
few,
a
few
fronts
that
contracts
were
being
awarded
to
our
companies
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
one
of
that
can
non-conformist
write
up
by
the
state,
that's
what
one
of
the
reasons
they
came
after
us,
so
he's
actually
working
he's
working
on
he's
gotten
us
out
of
a
lot
of
like
hot
water,
we're
trying
to
have,
I
guess,
a
mechanism
in
place
for
to
stand
up
for
beds
and
do
the
rfqs
and
even
write
up
different
contracts
going
up
to
some
vendors,
and
with
with
that
you
guys
have
seen
on
on
the
council
agendas.
I
You
know
several
initiatives
that
he
actually
submitted,
especially
for
the
fema
grants.
You
know
that
he's
involved
in
the
initial
one
that
we
had
is
supposed
to
be
shut
down
or
closed.
Several
years
ago,
every
council
members
have
seen
it.
You
know
current
council,
with
the
one
from
the
2016
grant
that
I'm
sorry,
the
fema
that
we
we
have
received
and
it
was
not
submitted
properly,
so
he
was
he
was
able
to.
I
mean
just
just
to
give
you
an
example.
I
You
know
when,
when
I
was
appointed
you
know,
I
had
almost
an
hour
and
a
half
meeting
with
state
police,
with
chief
of
staff
mariana
trying
to
plea,
with
with
the
state
police,
to
actually
give
us
some
time
to
be
in
compliance
with
the
fema.
So
well.
Luckily,
you
know
we
were
able
to
get
more
time
and
when
mr
jamal
took
over
when
he
came
on
board,
he
was
able
to
make
sure
that
we're
closed
on
that
grant.
So
everything
was
submitted.
I
The
way
that
the
state
police
wanted
it
submitted
and
after
that
he's
gotten
us,
like
several,
you
know
a
couple
grants
from
vemma
that
we
were
not
aware
of
so
he
had
his
his
transparency
and
his.
You
know:
dedication
showed
to
the
female
folks
and
state
police.
They
actually
told
him
about
a
couple
grants
to
apply
for
and
which
he
did
and
that's
why
you
see
on
the
agenda
the
last
agenda.
We
were
able
to
purchase
more
homes
off.
I
G
So
has
there
been
any
grants?
I'm
sorry,
mr
mayor,
has
there
been
any
grants
that
have
been
started
by
and
again
this
is
no
reflection
on
on
the
person.
I'm
talking
about
the
position
that
we're
started
with
the
current
director
and
I
use
the
words
current
director
only
because
I
don't
I'm
not
implying
a
particular
person,
I'm
talking
about
just
a
position.
G
Has
there
been
any
grants
that
have
been
started
and
ended
during
this
new
position
that
was
brought
on
new,
obviously
onto
the
administration
that
has
brought
in
more
than
the
76
000
or
in
this
case
half
of
a
year's
salary
which
would
have
been.
I
don't
know,
thirty
eight
thousand
dollars
has
been.
Has
there
been
more
than
thirty
eight
thousand
dollars?
G
I
Well,
I
I
can
tell
you,
I
mean
that's
a
good
question,
so
just
the
one
grant
that
I
was
telling
you
about
the
one
he
was
able
to
close
it
that
would
have
been
in.
We
would
have
been
in
hot
water
with
that
one.
We
would
have
to
pay
back
a
lot
of
money
because
there
was
a
lot
of
mis.
There
was
no
information,
so
that
would
have
cost
us
mil.
I
I
You
can't
just
start
them
and
close
them
in
a
short
period
of
time,
so
the
grants
that
he's
gotten
us-
you
know
with
the
fema.
So
you
know
the
process
council
from
the
chair
of
pro
tem
abdullah,
with
these
fema
grants,
when
you
get
the
ones
for
the
homes,
there's
there's
a
long
process,
you
have
to
go,
you
know
getting
the
homes
you
got
to
assess
them.
You
gotta
praise
them.
I
So
we
have
several
of
these
homes
that
actually,
under
the
last
grant
that
he
received
for
us
that
he's
working
on
currently
right
now
and
you
should
see
something
on
agenda
for
tuesday
some
of
his
work,
so
he
has
started
a
lot
of
the
grants
already.
So
it's
in
work
it's
going
to
be
closed
before
his
time.
You
know
before
the
six
months
it's
going
to
be
over,
I
would
say
two
three
million
dollars
that
he
was
able
to
achieve
for
us.
In
addition
to
that,
wait.
G
If
I
can
help
you
for
a
second,
if
I
corrupt
you
for
just
a
quick
second
mayor,
okay,
so
he's
got
over
two
million
dollars
that
were
started
by
him
and
I
realized
obviously
grants
don't
happen
within
30
40
50
days.
I
totally
realized
that,
but
I'm
talking
about
where
it
looks
like
they're
coming
within
two
to
three
million,
that's
going
to
be
coming
in
that
had
this
position
and
again
I
want
a
state
position.
Had
this
position
not
been
in
place,
we
would
not
have
two
to
three
million.
Is
that
basically,
what
you're
stating.
G
D
Yes,
yes,
madam
chair,
thank
you
so
much
and
I'm
just
going
to
echo
a
little
bit
of
what
councilman
abdullah
said
on
behalf
of
marianna.
I
had
it.
She
had
a
conversation
with
the
mayor
in
his
office
regarding
this
position
and
he
was
very
open-minded
as
well.
I
believe
to
the
70
000
with
a
three
percent
increase.
I
think
I
think
that's
the
way
it
should
go.
I
think
marianna
definitely
is
very,
very
hard
working.
I
think
55
000
for
a
for
the
chief
of
staff
isn't
something
that's
doable.
D
I
know
she's
going
on
and
doing
on
a
lot
of
work,
so
I
would
love
to
see
my
colleagues
started
at
70
70
dollars
with
a
three
percent
increase.
You
know
we
definitely
need
to
reward
our
employees
and-
and
I
think
seventy
thousand
is
fair.
I
know
I
think
she's.
D
D
If
he's
bringing
in
two
million
dollars,
that's
two
million
dollars
that
we
never
had,
and
so
I
would
also
like
to
kind
of
just
see
some
concrete
information
showing
that
we
did
receive
the
two
million
dollars,
because
then
we
can
go
back
and
you
know
let
our
constituents
know
hey.
You
know
you
know
before
having
this.
We
would
have
lost
two
million
dollars,
but
because
we
have
this
amazing
grant
writing
position.
D
It
is,
and
I'm
sure
our
grant
writer
is
doing
a
phenomenal
job.
We've
now
attained
two
million
dollars,
so
I
I
just
want
to.
I
can
pick
you
back
a
little
bit
about
what
councilman
abdullah
my
true
mentor
of
mine
had
to
say-
and
I
think
marianna
and
the
and
the
director
of
grants
is
doing
a
phenomenal
job.
So
thank
you
so
much.
J
Thank
you,
madam
chair,
and
just
to
echo
what
councilman
abdullah
said
and
councilman
baidune
said.
I
agree
100.
I
note
that
the
chief
of
staff
in
the
mayor's
office
has,
I
believe,
several
master's
degrees.
J
Also.
It's
always
said
that
the
the
city
budget
is
a
often
said,
a
br
living
breathing
document.
I
think
what
we
set
in
the
budget.
We
should
try
to
follow
and
stick
to
I
mean
the
budget
process
is
being
done
to
you
know
for
the
city
to
follow
sure
it
may
have
to
be
amended,
but
I
think
once
we
agree
on
a
budget,
the
budget
needs
to
be
followed.
Thank
you.
A
I'd
also
like
to
weigh
in
too
I
do
agree
with
the
different
raises
that
we've
got
here
on
this
page,
but
one
thing
I'd
like
to
suggest-
and
I
think
everybody's
overlooked
is
the
executive
secretary-
has
got
no
raise
and
she
is
part
of
the
support
system.
It's
which
is
the
first
office
at
city
hall.
I
would
propose
that
she
gets
five
to
ten
thousand
raise
herself
because
she
deserves
it.
She
is
very
hard
working.
A
A
K
K
You
okay,
so
with
regards
to
the
raises.
So
sometimes
this
is
done
in
two
different
ways.
Sometimes
flat
out
on
the
city,
council
has
given
wage
increases
for
the
non-union
personnel
in
other
times
the
non-union
personnel
benefits
and
raises
get
extended
when
we
settle
a
contract.
So,
for
instance,
if
we
settled
the
contract
for
the
tpoem,
then
oftentimes
a
letter
goes
from
the
administration
asking
the
city
council
for
consideration
for
the
extension
of
benefits,
as
in
addition
to
the
races.
So
that
also
can
happen
with
regards
to
her
race.
K
I
want
to
say
last
year
there
was
some
small
amount
I
can
log
on
and
verify
that
exact
amount
for
you
in
a
few
minutes
or
seconds.
So
probably
by
the
time
you
talk
to
the
mayor,
I
would
have
that,
but
usually
july
1
we've
factored
in
a
race
for
stephanie
over
the
or
for
the
executive
sector
over
the
years.
K
K
F
A
5
000
would
be
an
a
nice
little
raise,
I
think,
to
make
it
to
40
48
272..
F
Thousand
on
one
budget
and
five
thousand,
we
can't
forget
the
the
the
positions
that
we're
doing
as
directors
and
and
secretaries
and
things
like
that
nature.
So
you
know
I,
it
has
been
a
union
guy,
it's
hard
for
me
to
say
this,
but
the
higher
up.
F
You
are
the
more
money
you
make
and
that's
just
the
way
it
is
and-
and
I
know
stephanie
has
degrees
also-
and
that
was
one
of
the
concerns
that
the
former
mayor
had
when
we
gave
her
a
raise-
and
I
remember
councilman
abdullah
saying
that
you
know
with
her
degree
she
deserves
to
have
a
raise.
F
So
again,
I
think
5
000
would
be
good
and
and
just
to
point
out
that
all
of
us
council
people
that
are
here
suffer
mr
councilman
bandung
and
councilman
abdel
haq.
We
really
pushed
hard
to
get
a
grant
writer
before
we
wanted
a
new
grant
writer.
We
finally
got
one
remember
that
now,
when
you
think
about
this
salary,
we
wanted
it
and
we
finally
got
it
so
now
we
can
decide.
A
I
Thank
you,
council,
chair.
No,
I
do
agree
she.
Actually
she
really
works
very,
very
hard
and
the
we
did
not
overlook
at
that.
As
as
our
hr
director
said,
because
of
the
the
tpom,
we
were
actually
waiting
for
that
for
the
the
contract
and
when
I
was
appointed.
Obviously
it
was
like
two
weeks
or
so
you
know
when
we
started
doing
this
budget.
You
know
I
was
under
the
assumption.
She
was
the
tp1
until
hr
director
explained
it
to
me
so
yeah.
I
She
does
obviously
deserve
a
raise,
but
we
were,
we
were
gonna
actually
put
in
for
it
after
the
tpom.
So
as.
I
I
I
agree
with
whatever
the
council
approves.
I
mean,
if
you're
what
you
want
to
give
her
a
10
10.
I
I
I
The
position
yeah
and
she's
she's
doing
a
lot.
You
know
she's,
always
she's,
very
eager
to
do
more.
A
Yeah,
because
I
saw
that
when
I
was
in
there
too,
she
is
very
good
at
what
she
does:
councilman
muscat
you're.
Next.
A
Okay,
I
have
marianna,
I
don't
know
if
you
have
anything
you
you're
on
the
list
here
I
don't
know
where
you
went.
Did
you
still
have
something
to
say?
If
you
do
please
great?
Oh
there
you
are
hold
on
you're
flipping
all
over
here
there
you
go
go
ahead.
Please.
L
L
Of
course,
a
10
percent
raise
is
much
better,
but
I
do
want
to
remind
everybody-
and
this
is
echoing
gary
miyaki's
letter
from
before
that,
based
on
city
charter,
section
4.9,
it
is
the
mayor's
duty
to
fix
the
compensation
of
the
employees
within
the
limits
of
the
budget
appropriations
adopted
by
city
council.
So
again,
with
a
lot
of
these
numbers
that
you're
going
to
see
whether
it's
mine
or
stephanie's,
it
is
still
at
the
discretion
of
the
mayor
to
set
that
number
with
the
within
the
limits
of
the
bracket
that
you
set
for
that.
L
A
B
If
the
hr
can
tell
me
what
is
the
average
salary
in
the
region
for
the
executive
secretary.
B
K
That's
a
hard
one.
I
did
look
look
at
that
survey.
As
you
know,
executive
secretaries
make
you
know
very
good
compensation,
especially
on
a
corporate
level,
and
those
of
you
who
have
been
in
a
corporate
level
probably
know
that
firsthand,
and
so
you
know,
I
do
believe
that
this
is
lower
than
what
the
average
is,
especially
if
you
compare
it
to
some
of
our
neighbors.
So
I'd
have
to
look
at
that
cw
to
to
make
sure,
but
I
could
like
most
of
our
wages
here
I
can
assure
you.
K
I
I
I
don't
have
a
number
off
hand,
because
I
have
to
look
at
the
survey.
Go
back
to
what
I
sent
last
week
to
you.
C
B
A
G
On
just
want
to
say
that
I'm
comfortable
going
at
50
000
at
this
particular
point
only
because
well,
asia
does
a
good
job
and
b.
Most
importantly,
this
is
the
first
line
of
you
know
when
any
resident
calls
into
city
hall,
especially
into
the
mayor's
office.
A
A
F
B
F
I
think
75
is
what
would
be
good.
J
I
think
the
proposed
budget
for
the
the
chief
of
staff
is
is
good
and
I
think
the
executive
secretary
either
you
know
an
additional
10
000
or
put
it
at
50
000
with.
A
J
Yeah
and
I
think
it's
as
far
as
the
stephanie
shockey's
position-
it's
you
know,
I'd
like
to
hear
from
the
mayor
and
and
what
his
thoughts
are.
J
A
Yeah
there
will
be
a
union
we'll
see
you
know
what
happens.
Is
the
union
negotiated
percentage
is
also
extended
to
her
every
year
over
and
above
so
she
will
get
this
raise
and
she
will
also
get
the
union
raised
to
whatever
that
is
proposed.
B
I
I
really
want
to
say
that
the
same
council
approved
before
80
000
at
one
time.
I
think
75
would
be
very
fair.
A
B
G
G
I
I'd
like
to
propose.
I
think
this
is
fair.
I've
talked
to
marianne
a
couple
different
different
times:
bright
guy,
bright,
young
woman
and
very
well
educated,
and
since
we
are
not
coming
to
an
agreement,
why
don't
we
compromise
just
go
with
725.
A
Vote
we
agree
on
it.
What's
going
to
happen
tonight,
our
our
lovely
clerk's
office
is
keeping
track
of
the
numbers
we
are
putting
out.
So
let's
be
clear
on
them,
not
wishy-washy
and
bouncing
around,
because
they
in
the
end
with
the
comptroller,
also
is
keeping
track.
The
comptroller
will
make
up
the
final
budget
and
present
it
to
us
at
a
meeting
where
we
vote
on
it.
D
So
I'm
just
going
to
give
one
last
opinion
on
that.
Then
I
agree,
then,
if
we're
going
to
give
725
we
might
as
well
over
the
you
know
next
260
days,
365
days,
a
2
500,
I
don't
think
it's
going
to
make
or
break
the
city.
I
think
that
we
just
give
her
the
75
000
we
take
what
the
mayor's
put
on
and
we
move
on
from
that.
B
A
D
A
A
A
B
Anyway,
I
would
like
to
take
three
more
percent
on
top
of
that,
I
think
they
done
marvelous
job
and
I
would
like
to
see
her
at
62
000,
if
possible,.
A
F
Proposed
proposed
seven
opposed.
A
B
F
A
A
G
Originally
and
council
abduc
must
have
cheated
and
looked
at
my
notes,
but
originally
it
was
to.
G
B
D
A
A
B
B
B
F
Thoughts
on
that
with
the
80
000.,
that's
a
very,
very
important
position
and
it's
hard
and
as
we've
seen
the
last
few
years,
we've
gone
through
some
comptrollers.
I
think
we've
got
a
winner
this
time
and
we
better
hang
on
to
it.
So,
okay.
C
A
D
Man,
I'm
sure
I
do
agree.
Mr
jawad,
I
think,
is
doing
a
outstanding
job.
I've
asked
around
throughout
the
community.
I've
even
had
some
of
his
former
employers
and
they
spoke
really
really
highly
and
I
think
just
the
way
he
orchestrated
himself
throughout
this
budget
with
a
very
short
time.
I
know
he's
had
a
lot
of
assistance
to
some
of
his
amazing
staff
members.
But
aside,
I
think
mr
jawad
director
did
a
phenomenal
job,
so
I
I
and
I
know
I
voted
on
keeping
it
at
the
80.
A
A
H
A
G
Okay,
so
so
I
just
want
to
say:
I've
been
on
the
council
when
our
hr
director
decided
to
take
a
pay
cut
right.
I
understand
without
us
asking
her
for
one.
This
was
during
the
down
times
in
the
city
and
during
the
hard
times
in
the
city
and
during
very
little
money
coming
into
the
city.
But
in
addition
to
that,
her
passion
and
her
experience
and
the
way
she
always
does
it
with
a
smile
and
having
been
on
the
couch,
I'm
sorry
in
our
administration
for
so
long.
G
A
I
I
A
No,
please
let
me
say
it
24,
because
okay,
there
we
have.
Our
deputy
treasurer
is
59
591
39,
that
is
a
three
percent
increase.
A
E
I
do
I
mean
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
where,
when
she
started
that
position
11
years
ago,
she
was
at
54.,
so
I
think
62.
I
was
going
to
ask
for
that
and
share
that
with
you
all.
Oh,
she
was
at
64.,
54
know
when
she
started
11
years
ago.
That's
an
increase
where
she
is
now
of
only
thirty,
six
hundred
dollars,
actually
three
thousand
six
hundred
five
dollars
and
seventy
two
cents.
E
That's
an
average
of
three
hundred
twenty
seven
dollars
and
seventy
nine
cents
increase
annually
over
eleven
years,
which
is
point,
zero,
zero,
six
percent
and
she
does
an
outstanding
job.
She's
been
here,
for
you
know
in
the
position
for
11
years,
and
I
was
just
going
to
share
that
information
with
you
all.
G
So
now
I've
been
privy
to
more
information.
That's
one
of
the
things
I
said
during
the
budget
budget
wrap
up
is,
is
I
I'd
like
input
from
people
that
work
with
some
of
these
different
employees,
one
on
one,
because
sometimes
us
I
can
tell
you
myself
personally
as
a
councilman
like,
for
example,
I've
never
worked
directly
with
the
deputy
treasurer,
so
I
rely
a
lot
on
what
they
bring
to
the
table.
G
So
with
the
current
treasurer
telling
us
this
and
with
the
former
previous
treasurer
telling
us
that
she's
doing
a
great
job,
I've
just
had
the
opportunity
to
just
meet
her
hello,
hello,
but
not
one-on-one
and
haven't
been
there
for
11
years.
I'd
like
to
suggest
that
we
move
her
up
to
65
000.
A
A
O
A
That
tr
john
riley
calculated
that
so
I'm
not
going
to
question
his
numbers.
B
Q
Q
Okay,
I
don't
have
the
full
budget
before
me,
so
I
yeah
that
so
that
was
calculated
by
the
treasurer
hicks
clayton,
and
so
you
know
I
I've
been
trying
to
assist
when
I
can,
when
we
don't
have
a
conflict
so,
okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Thank
you.
Thanks.
A
Okay,
so
that
is
going
to
be.
Let
me
read
off
the
line
item
line
item
101.
A
A
A
F
I
believe
she's,
isn't
she
union?
No,
I
police,
department,
secretary's
union.
K
C
R
I
just
I
was
trying
to
chime
in
in
case
you're
wondering
that
that
was
completely
an
error
on
my
part,
when
I
wasn't
sure
how
we
did
that
at
the
time
we
were
submitting
our
prospective
budgets
miss
lucas,
our
administrative
executive.
Here
she
is
who
you
see
through
the
council
orders
when
I
send
them
over
when
we
want
to
make
a
purchase
we
get
approved.
She
keeps
us
organized
she's,
a
20-plus
year,
employee
here
at
the
city
and
over
the
last
two
years
she
has
made
that
one
percent
raise
so
a.
C
R
So
I
would
like
to
see
whatever
you
would
you
and
the
mayor
decide
as
an
appropriate
salary,
but
I
don't
think
we
can
pay
her
enough.
Just
like
the
other
executive
assistants.
A
A
A
G
G
The
thing
perfect
so
on
the
police
secretary
and
again
back
to
what
I
mentioned
earlier,
I'd
like
to
get
references
or
or
what
how
they
feel
about
it,
the
person
that
works
with
them
one-on-one
and
again,
as
a
council
person,
I
don't
work
with
her
one-on-one,
but
the
chief
just
said
chief,
I
think
you
said
15
years,
she's
been
there
so.
R
A
G
A
F
That's
a
20
raise
well
yeah,
but
but
it.
G
Never
happened,
and
I
agree
I
agree
yeah,
but
and-
and
I
get
it
I
I
don't
like
20
reasons,
but
at
the
same
time
that
somebody's
not
been
getting
it
or
at
least
not
getting
agreed
with
fair
share
for
the
last
20
plus
years,
and
anybody
that's
kept
in
any
position
with
any
company
for
that
long,
obviously
they're
doing
a
pretty
good
job,
otherwise
they
wouldn't
be
there
and
I'm
sure,
with
the
different
police
chiefs
that
we've
had
they've
had
high
standards.
Otherwise
this
person
possibly
could
have
been
gone.
B
B
J
G
O
G
As
to
who
made
that
proposal-
and
the
second
thing
is
based
on
who
made
the
proposal
I'd
like
to
know,
and
although
I
have
a
pretty
good
idea
but
I'd
like
to
know
a
little
bit
more
specifically
what
the
general
position
outlines
and
the
type
of
job
with
due
respect
to
former
chief
lee
gavin,
that
he's
doing.
If
you
don't
mind.
I
I
I
So
as
you,
you
know,
you
know
a
city
when
they
bring
an
emergency
manager.
It's
pretty
hard.
You
know
to
really
know
when
they
gotta
really
experienced
and
or
get
there
really
see
what
they're
really
all
about,
and
with
this
here
this
has
been
a
test
time
for
all
of
us,
he's
been
really
working
really
hard
working
long
hours.
I
I
I
see
it
every
day
he's
always
here.
You
know
he's
early
in
the
day
and
late
at
night,
helping
us
with
ev
every
everything
in
the
city
and
to
covet
related
issues,
he's
been
going
to
the
dearborn
also
center,
where
they're
doing
vaccinations
for
our
dearborn
heights
residents
and
there's
nothing
that
you
know
he
doesn't
do
in
the
city
he's
like
jack
of
all
trades
basically,
but
he
really
works
hard
and
I
really
highly
recommend
that
we
approve
that
75k
he's
really.
G
Okay,
so,
mr
mayor,
so
two
things
I'm
trying
to
clarify,
so
you
made
the
proposal.
Is
that
correct,
correct,
okay
and
then
the
second
thing
I
want
to
clarify
in
and-
and
I
appreciate
what
you
said
about
again-
our
former
chief
lee
gavin-
but
let's
pretend
right
now,
so
I
can
make
a
better
decision.
Let's
pretend
hypothetically,
there
was
no
covet,
okay
and
and
no
more
culver
going
forward.
G
What
do
you
feel
this
position
will
be
able
to
bring
to
the
city?
Is
it
only
during
an
extreme
emergency
that
would
need
these
services
in
our
city
or
or
when
would
we
need
these
services?
And
again
I
want
to
make
something
clear:
there's
no
reflection
on
the
person,
I'm
talking
about
the
position
itself,
a
the
need
for
it
b.
Is
this
a
charter
thing
and
c?
What
would
they
be
able
to
bring
to
the
table
for
the
75
000.
I
Okay,
well,
that's
a
good
question.
Actually
and
the
thing
is
it's
it's
so
hard
to
predict
what
really
state
of
emergency
you're
gonna
get.
You
know
like
some
areas,
you
know
some
states,
you
know
I've
seen
you
know
been
been
all
over
the
world
or
all
over
the
us.
You
don't
really
know
what
disasters
might
come
to
the
city
or
you
know
municipality.
I
You
might
have
you
know
a
flooding
issue,
you
might.
You
might
have
some
huge
catastrophe
like
a
fire.
You
know
you
might
have.
God
forbids
you
know
an
airplane,
my
crash,
you
know
in
our
backyard.
You
know,
as
I
mean
we've
seen,
that
happen.
I've
seen
it
in
my
lifetime,
the
one
aircraft
that
crashed
near
the
airport.
You
know
that
was
that
was
huge
for
an
emergency
manager
to
take
on
that
task,
and
so
you
can't
really
predict
what's
going
to
happen,
so
we
have
to
be
prepared
to
have
an
emergency
manager.
I
So
when
we
do
have
something
like
a
pandemic
or
even
an
emergency
state
of
emergency
that
that
person
can
take
something
he
can
take
it
on
and
help
the
residents
help
the
city
get.
You
know
get
prepared,
I
mean
they're,
always
in
preparedness
mode,
and
you
know
that's
that's
a
position.
You
know
I
mean
I
know
it's
out
of
the
police
station,
but
he's
been
working
here
in
the
city
hall,
but
he's
doing
the
same
thing
as
he's
not
just
doing
emergency
manager,
as
I
mentioned,
but
you
you
never
know.
I
G
Can't
if
there,
but
if
there's
but
if
there's
no
emergency
and
that's
why
I'm
trying
to
make
a
determination,
let's
pretend
there
is
no
emergency
right
now
and
and
yeah
I
get
that
we
gotta
be
prepared
for
emergency.
Let's
plan,
there
is
no
emergency
right
now.
What
would
that
position
again
the
position?
What
would
that
position
be
doing
all
day
or
all
week?
If
there's
no
emergency.
I
I
Okay,
again,
council
chair
pro
tem,
you
always
have
to
be
prepared
and,
as
you
can
see,
I
mean
got
you
know
like
say
you
know
we
have.
We
have
a
fire
department,
okay,
so
the
fire
department,
you
know
if
any
emergency
they're
over
there
fighting
fires.
You
know
responding
to.
You,
know,
rescue
operations
and
everything
like
that.
You
have
the
police
department
responding,
you
know,
keeping
the
peace.
So
then
each
person
has
a
position
so
with
with
the
emergency
manager,
so
we
always
have
to
be
prepared
for
what
might
come.
I
The
last
thing
you
need
is,
if
something
god
forbid
something
happens-
that
there's
nobody
in
place
to
take
that
position
or
to
be
able
to
get
us
out
of
a
certain
situation.
An
emergency
manager
managers
train
for,
like
all
kinds
of
scenarios
that
might
be
thrown
at
us.
You
know
I
mean
for
this
covet.
Nobody
knew
that
we're
going
to
get
in
this
culvert.
Obviously
we
have
we're
not
out
of
that
the
that
covet
situation
yet,
but
we
don't
know
what
can
come.
You
know
our
way.
I
As
I
said
you
know,
you
always
have
to
have
a
position.
Somebody
in
that
position
just
to
make
sure
that
if
there's
any
emergency
that
that
person
can
actually
you
know,
hit
the
ground
running,
they're
trained
and
they're
always
training.
It's
not
like.
Okay,
I'm
trained,
you
know,
there's
always
continuous
training,
there's
classes.
They
have
to
take
different
scenarios
that
they're
trained
for.
D
And
maybe
just
I
can
you
know
just
kind
of
inform.
Councilman
abdullah
and
I
know
you're
very
informative,
so
I
don't
mean
to
be
any
disrespectful
towards
in
any
way,
but
I
I
have
family
members
and
that
do
homeland
security
and
are
are
part
of
this,
and
so
I
just
want
to
stress
on
to
the
con
to
my
colleagues
that
this
position
is
actually
extremely
important.
Well
and
it's
a
and
the
pay
with
it.
D
What
it's
that
from
when
I
looked
at
it
and
seeing
that
it
was
at
62
000,
I
was
actually
very
surprised
to
see
it.
As
you
know,
such
a
low
amount
and
look
with
all
due
respect
to
our
director
lee
gavin.
I
don't
know
how
much
longer
he's
going
to
be
there,
but
I
believe
that
when
we
bring
in
somebody
we
need
to
be
able
to
show
that
work.
We
have
a
competitive,
you
know
or
a
good
pace
that
you
know
somebody
good
wants
to
come
work
for
us,
but
you
know.
D
So
what
does
the?
What
does
his
job
entail?
I
believe
he
issues
out
to
the
state
to
the
federal
government
to
the
fbi
in
any
state
of
an
emergency.
He
works
with
wayne
county.
He
works
with
directly
with
the
governor's
office
if
needed
at
times,
but
some
things
even
as
small
as
gfl.
I
I
get
so
many
complaints
from
gfl.
The
first
call
I
make
is
to
our
director
lee
gavin,
and
let
me
tell
you
with
the
second:
I
call
them
the
second
network.
D
That
issue
is
resolved
and
you
know-
and
I
don't
know
who
to
call
at
that
given
time
am
I
calling
the
chief
of
staff?
Am
I
calling
you
know
the
the
this
you
know
the
executive
secretary?
Am
I
calling
the
mayor?
Not
many
people
are
able
to
take
on
those
positions,
so
I'm
reaching
out
to
our
director
gavin
honest
to
god.
It's
done
in
seconds,
even
if
it
means
that,
with
his
personal
vehicle
driving
to
a
resident's
house
and
picking
up
their
trash,
putting
it
in
his
personal
vehicle,
I
swear.
D
He
did
that
and
to
me,
62
000
isn't
worth
that,
especially
for
that
position,
because
I
don't
know
how
much
longer
he's
going
to
be
with
the
city.
I
mean,
I
hope,
another
20
30
years,
but
do
we
see
him
here
for
another
20
30
years?
I
I
definitely
don't
see
that
and
let's
also
keep
in
mind
with
inflation
and
everything
that's
happening,
paying
somebody
62
000
as
a
director
position.
D
It's
just
not
fair,
especially
it's
just
not
fair
and
any
time
I've
walked
into
city
hall
he's
in
there
all
day.
So
we
also
need
to
think
of
the
future,
and
we
want
to
think
about
the
people
that
we're
going
to
bring
into
city
hall.
I
think
75
000
still
very
low,
but
I
think
that's
fair
enough.
A
At
this
time,
let's
try
and
streamline
this.
We
have
all
agreed,
75
is
there.
Next
we
have
the
chief
and
the
deputy
chief,
I
calculated
it
and
they
both
are
getting
just
a
three
percent
raise.
The
chief
would
be
at
one
thousand
one
hundred
four
thousand
two
hundred
fifteen
dollars
and
seventeen
cents,
and
the
deputy
chief
would
be
a
total
out
of
two
budgets
of
ninety
three
thousand
six
hundred
twenty
seven.
Do
you
agree
to
that?
Or
does
anybody
disagree
with
those
amounts?
I
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
add
sorry.
I
just
do
two
things
I
I
thought
we're
not
going
to
mention
people's
names
in
this
meeting.
It's
embarrassing
when
we
keep
mentioning
people's
names.
You
know
I
like,
if
you
guys,
can
refrain
from
mentioning
people's
names,
but
you
can
just
refer
them.
As
for
the
title
and.
I
No,
no!
Thank
you.
No
it's
just
not
you
just
a
councilman.
By
doing
this,
I
I've
heard
others.
People
keep
mentioning
people's
names.
I
don't
like
to
do
that.
Also.
You
know
what
the
emergency
manager
has
been
doing.
The
cap
program,
as
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
city
property,
we're
trying
to
get
rid
of
or
sell,
and
so
with
when
we
had
the
lead
issue.
I
You
know
I
mean
we
all
know
about
the
flint
water
issue
with
that
led
so
that
that
position
or
the
emergency
manager
is
helping
us
with
that
as
well
with
the
led.
You
know
with
the
filters
and
that
so
there's
there's
a
lot
of
it's
a
lot
of
things
that
the
title
is
doing
for
that
position.
D
C
O
A
A
G
It
is
okay,
so
it
looks
like
elizabeth's
saying
that
so,
mr
and
mrs
union
take
a
look
at
that
position.
I'll
just
leave
it
at
that.
I
Since
you
know
I
again,
you
know
when
we
submitted
this.
I
was
like
just
couple
weeks
or
two
three
weeks
on
a
job.
I've
seen
a
lot
of
things
that
the
chief
has
has
been
doing.
I
A
Yeah,
I
think
we've
already
agreed
on
it
and
I
look
back
and
the
fire
chief
is
I'm
sorry.
The
chief
of
police
is
also
getting
three
percent
so
to
keep
it
consistent.
I
think
we
should
keep
it
where
it's
at
right
now,
but
other
council
members
already
agreed
on
it.
I
just
think
it's
fair
and
I
don't
want
to
keep
backtracking.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
So
this
we
have
the
director
in
the
building
department,
65
000,
raising
it
up
to
75
000.
Is
anybody
in
disagreement?
Councilman.
F
Musk,
yes,
I
am
this
is
this
is
a
position
that
that's
close
to
my
heart,
our
previous
directors,
the
one
that
we
had
for
many
years
was
making
over
80
000
a
year
back
in
212,
I
believe,
and
they
they
went.
They
took
these
salaries
down
to
54
or
55
000
I
mean
I
I
think
I
don't
know
which
one
it
was,
but
it's
one
of
the
two-
and
this
is
definitely
an
80
000
a
year
job.
A
All
right,
let's
streamline
this,
anybody
disagree
with
the
80
000.
If
not
we're
gonna
move
on
to
the
next
page.
Okay,
we
are
raising
this
up
to
80
000
again.
Next,
we
are,
we've
got
number
34..
Let
me
make
sure,
because
I
don't
have
anything
I've
got
see.
I've
got
something
highlighted
on
34
and
I'm
gonna
have
to
ask.
A
A
G
Madam
chair
councilman
abdellah,
so
I'm
not
going
to
disagree,
but
I'm
going
to
say
straight
up:
I'm
going
to
have
personally
with
whatever
I
could
do
within
my
power
high
high
standards
for
the
ordinance
department
to
kick
it
up.
Another
10
notches
they're
getting
you
know,
there's
a
raise
coming
there,
but
I'm
going
to
expect
some
very,
very
high
standards
from
that
particular
department
and
from
the
mayor's
administration
to
make
sure
not
because
they're
doing
a
bad
job,
because
they're
doing
a
pretty
good
job.
G
A
Thank
you.
Let's,
let's
get
moving
here
on
this
page,
we
also
have
the
other
half
of
the
secretary
in
the
mayor's
office
that
remember
we
said.
5000
was
split
between
the
two,
so
I
want
to
note
that
the
secretary
here
is
actually
half
of
her
salary
is
paid
for
out
of
this
account,
and
that
would
make
it
five
thousand
more.
Instead
of
the
twenty
one
thousand
six
thirty
six,
it
would
be
twenty
six
thousand
six,
thirty,
six
and
twenty
cents.
A
A
D
A
A
A
The
director
currently
is
at
63
800
and
we
will
be
raising
it
to
80
000..
Anyone.
A
A
A
G
Well,
if
you
don't
mind
constantly
either
you
or
hr,
because
I
remember
when
we
had
you
know
switching
positions,
we
had
a
couple
different
changes
in
the
recreation
department
based
on
the
proposal
from
the
mayor's
office.
Can
you
give
us
those
numbers
first,
because
on
a
budget
like
councilman
ray
musk,
I
just
said
is
different
numbers
now
I
know
there
was
changes
that
were
higher.
So
can
we
have
those
numbers,
maybe
from
hr?
First
before
I
I
made
that's.
G
K
Okay,
so
just
to
clarify
the
director
salary
was
a
restoration
of
the
original
10
back
in
the
day,
okay,
and
so
that
it
slightly
rounded,
as
that
figure
it
was
63
795
in
78
cents.
That's
63,
795
dollars
in
78
cents,
and
that
was
based
on
the
motion
a
few
weeks
ago
and
then,
with
regards
to
the
deputy,
there
was
a
when
there
was
a
amendment
at
that
point,
but
you
already
it's
reflected
in
that,
because
that
was
back
in
starting
september
in
february
and
so
54
000
is
accurate
on
that
particular
budget.
K
So
that
is
true
because
it
was
a
lower
salary
and
originally
actually,
the
director
was
at
a
lower
salary
and
that
salary
as
of
july,
1st
of
2019,
was
51
500.
K
G
K
K
Well,
that
was
another:
the
deputy
recreation,
the
deputy
recreation
director.
That
position
had
like
many.
The
position
had
taken
a
cut
back
in
2011,
some
incremental
amounts
over
the
years
and
then
like
in
20
of
the
july
1st
of
2020
so
july,
1st
2020.
That
amount
was
57
855.
K
Okay,
so
I
would
add
that,
instead
of
what
that
proposed
salary
is
that's
really
what
it
should
be.
Currently,
it
is
not
because
it
was
only
budgeted
at
54
000
with
that
budget
amendment,
but
then
that
salary
should
probably
be
you
know,
realigned
with
what
you're
doing
with
the
other,
with
the
other
deputies.
If
you
will.
D
F
Yes
again,
this
was
one
of
the
salaries
that
was
kept
because
of
retirement
back
in
2011-12
and
remember.
The
deputy
director
position
was
given
a
raise
that
was
not
okayed
by
the
former
administration.
F
So
there's
quite
a
bit
of
discrepancy
there
in
the
deputy
salary
and
actually,
what
is
being
proposed
now
is
I'm
okay
with.
O
J
M
Unfortunately,
he's
not
doing
it.
No,
I
don't.
I
don't
disagree
with
it.
I
I
just
wanted
to
make
a
statement
that
our
current
deputy
director
when
he
was
director
he
al
he's
owed
some
kind
of
kudos
because
he
took
this
job
on
during
the
covid,
all
the
stuff
that
was
going
on,
and
I
think
he
doesn't
get
the
recognition
that
he
deserves.
She
did
a
great
job
and
we're
really
lucky
that
he's
staying
on
with
us
as
deputy
director.
A
A
A
D
Thank
you.
What
I'm
asking
is
can
either
the
mayor
either
the
mayor
or
the
director
constance
speak
on
this
and
just
kind
of
give
us
what
this
job
entails
and.
A
S
Hi
good,
how
are
you
basically
what
that
position
is
going
to
be?
Is
programming
for
the
senior
center?
S
I
was
actually
made
available
one
position
starting
in
the
new
year,
which
actually
works
out
really
well,
because
the
current
coordinator
that
I
have
is
going
to
test
for
that
position
as
well,
and
the
seniors
really
love
her.
She
does
a
great
job
so
when
she
tests,
if
she
ends
up
in
the
top
three,
that
that'll
be
wonderful,
but
so
it's
working
out
just
starting
with
one.
S
I
I
just
want
to
say
that
first,
but
this
person's
going
to
be
programming
for
the
seniors
they're
going
to
be
kind
of
managing
the
center
as
well
the
issue
that
I've
had
throughout
the
years-
and
this
is
an
issue
that
we
had
even
when
I
was
a
deputy-
that
the
hours
that
that
position
requires
goes
way
over
the
28
hours
a
week
that
we're
allotted
for
the
part-time
position.
S
We
did
the
cut
as
far
as
making
the
positions
part-time
when
we
were
going
through
financial
difficulty
and
now
we're
at
a
point
where
it's
actually
really
to
the
best
interest,
because
the
issue
is,
they
are
already
working
additional
hours,
the
ones
that
really
love
their
job,
and
I
hate
to
ask
that
from
them
because
they
are
going
over
for
the
28
hours
but
they're.
You
know
not
asking
to
be
paid
for
it,
but
I'm
actually,
when
I
talk
about
that.
S
Referring
to
my
current
coordinator
that
I
have
the
position
at
the
eden
center
is
currently
open
and
I
will
be
interviewing
tomorrow
for
part-time
people
and
we're
going
to
start
with
that,
and
I
think
this
process
will
allow
me
to
set
up
a
really
good
staff
for
the
senior
centers.
So
I
don't
know
if.
S
Correct
and
I
don't
have
a
position
in
there
because
the
way
that
it's
gonna
work
out
when
they
test
and
and
I
don't
know
if
patty
I'm
sorry-
I
shouldn't
say
your
name-
I
don't
know
if
the
coordinator
at
the
burwin
center
has
decided
to
test
for
the
position
or
not,
but
she
may
and
then,
if
she
ends
up
doing
well,
she
will
be
able
to
remain
at
the
berwin
center
as
a
full-time
person,
and
then
at
that
point
then
I'll
work
on
doing
something
for
the
eaton
center,
but
doing
it.
S
S
A
S
S
If
she
chooses
to
do
the
test,
it's
really
confusing,
but
that's
kind
of
where
it
is
so
it
actually
affords
me
to
be
able
to
keep
the
best
of
what
we
have,
and
I
think
most
of
you
know
the
coordinator
at
the
berwin
center
and
the
seniors
absolutely
love
her,
and
I
don't
want
to
lose
her.
So
I'm
going
to
respect
her
wishes
and
do
it.
Whichever
way
she
requests.
C
A
A
Now
I'm
going
to
bring
up
page
40
and
the
reason
I'm
bringing
this
up
is
because
director
constant
was
not
here
and
I
did
have
a
question
during
the
budget
hearing
on
this
one
item
and
it
is
called
spirit
fest.
You
have
put
in
44
000
800
for
the
spirit
fest
and
are
we
having
one.
S
Well,
that
that's
for
july,
one
for
the
new
budget
year
and
yes,
I
would
have
it,
but
that's
actually
not
for
the
current
one
that
I
just
cancelled
and
then.
S
S
E
S
F
E
E
A
A
Very
picky,
so
this
is
for
the
recreation
coordinator.
Apparently
there
is
no
raise
given
at
all
I'm
thinking.
It
should
be
at
least
three
percent,
because
we've,
given
everybody
else,
a
raise
at
three
percent,
they
would
get
a
raise
of
one
thousand
one
hundred
ninety
nine
dollars
and
twelve
cents.
Yes,.
A
A
A
F
T
Actually,
I
don't
have
my
hand
up
to
weigh
in
on
that
issue,
although
I'll
weigh
on
it.
If
I
can
hear
again
what
the
issue
was,
I
was
asking
if
I
could
be
excused
from
the
meeting
since
it
doesn't
appear
that,
oh
you
want
me
to
stay
now,.
A
T
Well,
do
you
want
me
to
answer
any
any
question
on
the
peg
stuff,
or
is
that
unnecessary?
Now,
because.
F
L
A
I
have
a
note
on
here
from
when
we
it
needs
to
be
re-addressed
today.
Let
me
see
I
put
44
in
here.
I
don't
know
what
that
means.
Oh
sorry,.
L
So
the
the
number
that
I
discussed
with
bob
and
craft
and
mr
lee
gavin
was
47
000
for
that
full-time
salary
position.
But
we
would
also
have
to
decrease
one
of
the
part-time
positions,
because
it
would
be
one
full
time
and
one
part
time.
F
A
F
It
came,
it
was
scheduled
for
by
bankrupt
for
his
35
an
hour
part-time
and
that's
where
it
came
from.
Okay,.
Q
Okay
in
the
general
government
pension
there,
there
is
currently
no
administrator
for
that
job,
and
so
the
thought
was
is
to
create
a
job
that
is
shared
between
the
police
and
fire
pension
and
the
general
government
pension,
so
that
there
is
a
pension
administrator.
That's
working
both
those
jobs.
I
am
going
to
be
stepping
down
at
the
end
of
june,
from
the
police
and
fire
and
again
I've
been
working
doing
a
lot
of
the
general
government
stuff
for
free.
Q
A
Q
Well,
it's
not
salaries,
it's
really
a
part-time
right.
It's
both
of
those
are
listed
under
part-time.
This
is
a
part-time
position.
That's
going
to
be
hired
by
the
pension
boards
to
work
between
both
systems.
L
Q
Well,
I
I
mean
I
originally
had
spoken
with
mariana
and
the
about
boudry
audrey,
and
then
I
came
before
the
council
previously
to
talk
about
this.
Is
that
right?
I.
P
A
Q
Q
Q
A
Q
Chair
did
we
want
to
do
that
same
thing
with
the
general
plan,
what
we
did
it'll
just
take
a
minute,
there's
only
two
two
line
items
or
three.
Q
Changing
okay,
it's
I
think
we
have
101
955
706.00
that
should
be
zero.
Okay,
then
you
have
a
adding
a
part-time
line
item
of
101
955
707.100.
That's
the
30
23
500.,
seven.
A
M
B
That's
okay,
the
pension
administrator
salary.
Is
it
coming
from
the
pension
or
we
pay,
and
then
the
pension
will
embarrassing
us.
Q
Q
Q
Well,
there's
one
other
line
item
we
have
to
one
the
one
last
line
item
on
there:
101
955,
726
000
should
be
18
thousand
eighteen
hundred
and
fifty
dollars.
Q
H
A
A
Okay,
we
are
done
at
this
point.
I
do
open
it
up
to
public
comment.
I
ask
you
limited
to
two
minutes
and
you
raise
your
hand.
I
have
oh
boy
hold
on.
We've
got
a
lot
of
people.
Alan
bassett,
you
have
two
minutes
state,
your
name
where
you
live
go
ahead.
Please.
U
Yeah
this
is
alan
bassett
hickory
wood
street,
I'm
inquiring
about
the
police
department
budget.
I
noticed
on
there
that
you
guys
didn't
discuss
it.
The
deputy
chief's
position.
P
As
you
stated,
we
still
noticed
that
it
was
at.
T
P
Just
curious
what
the
status
is
with
that,
if
that's
an
eliminated
position,
if
you
guys,
are
seeking
to
fill
that
from
the
outside,
what
the
plan
is.
A
D
A
Councilman
they
do.
I.
D
A
I
I
agree:
does
everybody
else
agree
that
this
should
be
a
full-time
100
instead
of
at
50,
and
keep
the
position.
A
I
I
know
in
the
past,
you
know
we
had
again,
you
know,
I
don't
have
all
the
history,
but
in
the
past
we
didn't
have
the
position
or
that
position
was
actually
doing
the
emergency
managers
job
way
back
in
the
day,
from
my
understanding,
and
as
I
mentioned
in
in
one
of
the
meetings
that
we've
had
you
know
for
the
last
three
years,
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
mayor's
office
me
or
whoever
you
know
has
actually
a
say
so
of
the
promotions
that
actually
go.
I
I
You
know
just
going
up
the
rank
and
I
just
want
to
make
sure
it's
fair
for
everybody
else,
and
I
agree
with
that
yeah
and
that's
that's
one
of
the
reasons
you
know.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
mayor's
office,
you
know,
has
a
say.
So
it's
not
like
you
know,
people
promoting
whoever
they
want
to
promote.
You
know
wanted
to
keep
it
reasonable
for
everybody
else.
A
A
I
We
wanted
this,
we
can
reassess
it
at
that
time.
I
just
wanted
to
see
if
wanted
to
look
at,
like
I
said
all
the
budget
and
that
the
job
responsibility
for
that
position
and
as
I
mentioned
before,
that
position
was
you
know
again.
You
know
I'm
up
for
for
promotions,
but
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
the
staff
you
know
get
a
fair.
I
guess
promotion
and
you
know
their
stuff.
Obviously
you
know
we
can
discuss
in
a
closed
session.
A
R
So
I
think,
there's
two
issues
or
a
couple
issues
that
should
be
addressed.
One
is
currently
under
collective
bargaining
agreements
under
act
78,
the
deputy
chief
spot,
is
tested
for
so
I'm
not
sure
I'd
love
to
have
this
conversation,
even
it
more
in
depth,
I'm
not
sure
where
the
unfairness
is
coming.
When
you
test
for
deputy
chief,
it
is
through
the
act,
78
civil
service
process
that
eliminates
nepotism,
cronyism
and
favoritism.
R
It's
done
in
personally
by
a
panel,
that's
solicited
through
the
hr,
so
I,
as
chief
of
police,
do
not
appoint
the
deputy
chief
is
tested
through
the
union,
so
making
sure
the
right
person
is.
There
starts
early
on
as
we
hire
police
officers
as
new
employees
and
they
get
promoted
up
through
the
ranks.
R
I
also
believe
that
it
should
be
budgeted
for
if
the
mayor
chooses
not
to
fill
it,
that
will
be
his
choice,
but
when
you
don't
budget
for
a
position,
that's
contractually
guaranteed.
I
think
you
run
into
some
labor
issues
when
you
don't
negotiate
that
I
could
be
wrong.
I'm
not
a
labor
lawyer,
but
I
believe
by
cutting
it
out
of
a
budget
automatically,
doesn't
allow
you
to
negotiate
it
fairly
to
remove
the
position.
R
So
I
caution
that
I
also
believe
the
workload
in
law
enforcement,
the
tasks
that
we
have,
the
supervision
that
you
need.
Yes,
we
eliminated
the
deputy
chief
position
about
15
years
ago.
It
got
replaced
four
years
ago
because
of
the
workload
because
of
a
letter
of
understanding
between
the
unions
and
the
administration
at
that
time,
and
I
believe
the
workload
is
only
going
up.
R
R
I
also
want
to
point
out
that,
as
we
move
forward
in
this,
the
deputy
cheap
spot,
there
was
a
concern
about
how
many
chiefs
we've
had
and
we
always
throw
around
the
number
of
oh
there's
been
four
chiefs
in
this
repetitive.
R
Well
to
to
be
honest-
and
this
is
me
speaking
honestly-
the
chief
there
was
a
long-term
chief.
There
was
two
very
short-term
chiefs
and
then
there's
the
chief
that
you
have
right
now.
That's
here,
for
the
average
amount
of
time
of
chiefs
of
police
across
the
state
of
michigan,
which
is
three
to
five
years.
I
understand
two
are
short,
but
when
we
say
we
had
four,
we
really
had
two
short-term
ones.
That's
really
what
the
issue
was.
We
had
two
short-term
chiefs.
R
We
had
an
extremely
long-term
chief,
which
is
very
rare
in
law
enforcement
in
the
state
of
michigan.
So
I
I
understand
the
concern
that
the
community
has
that
there's
this.
You
know
that
there
was
a
a
high
turnover
for
18
months,
but
that
wasn't
the
case
for
10
years
before,
and
it's
not
the
case
for
the
next
36
months,
god
willing
and
health
for
everybody
me
included.
So
I
I
don't
think
that's
a
fair
statement
when
it's
brought
up.
I
believe
we
had
two
short-term
ones,
but
we
had
two
very
stable
ones.
R
R
The
civil
service
process
and
the
ability
for
officers
here
at
the
police
department
to
live
out
their
career
goals
to
be
promoted
through
this
department
and
be
able
to
promote
to
the
highest
levels
of
law
enforcement
that
they're
serving
honorably
and
dedicated
to
this
city
and
their
residence,
and
I
think,
taking
away
this
position
is
the
start
of
removing
that
ability.
And
I
I
completely
against
it.
A
D
So
so
my
question
is
maybe
to
the
mayor:
maybe
we
can
budget
for
it,
you
know,
and
then
you
know
being
it
from
what
the
rather
the
mayor
wants
to
move
on
with
that
position
or
not
come
december,
but
I
believe
that
you
know
with
respect
to
the
mayor's
office
and
to
the
chief
of
police
office.
We
should
you
know,
you
know,
definitely
ask
the
mayor
if
he'd
allow
us
to.
You
know
if
he'd
be
in
support
of
that
as
well.
A
F
First
thing:
I
keep
hearing
union
contracts
being
thrown
around,
so
why
are
we
even
discussing
it?
Okay,
if
it's
a
union
thing
and
but
my
concern
is
act
78
itself,
I
I
think
it
it
limits
us
into
hiring
just
from
within
and
it
limits
us
from
trying
to
get
the
first
best
person
possible
from
wherever
we
can
get
them
and
if
that's
the
case,
we
should
keep
a
position
open
in
case.
We
want
to
go
a
different
route
in
the
future.
R
B
Does
the
mayor
has
the
power
to
terminate
the
chief
or
the
deputy
chief
or
any
of
the
captain
of
or
it
is
contractual.
A
I
Or
or
elizabeth
h.r.
K
I
again
so
with
regards
to
termination,
so
there
is
a
process
so
most
of
the
positions
that
you
listed,
I
think
you
said
lieutenant
captain.
K
Those
are
those
follow
the
the
collective
bargaining
agreements,
so
you
have
some
level
of
progressive
discipline
or
if
it
was
a
matter,
usually
that's
handled
by
the
actual
police
chief,
the
chain
of
command
right
with
regards
to
any
sort
of
termination
of
the
that
regard,
and
then
with
regards
to
the
appointing
authority
who
is
the
mayor
according
to
the
xm8
rules
and
how
it
is
in
our
in
our
charter
and
the
rules
in
the
state
rules
in
the
state
law,
the
the
mayor
is
the
appointing
authority
he
could
terminate,
but
the
police
chief
has
an
appeal
through
acts
78,
and
that
is
also
true
for
the
other
chief,
which
is
of
the
fire
so
again,
act.
K
G
I
know
I
spoke
with
a
couple
different
parties
in
regards
to
this.
They
were
involved
with
this
and
one
of
the
concerns
on
one
end
was
you
know
the
the
police
department
is
top
heavy,
and
so
maybe
it's
better
instead
of
having
this
type
of
position,
take
that
type
of
position,
salary
and
then
put
in
more
police
officers.
On
the
other
hand,
there's
another
argument
as
to
deputy
chief's
position,
of
course,
being
prepared
to
be
able
to
take
on
this
chief
and
then
also
maintaining
the
car
fleet
and
the
building
management.
G
G
The
question
I
would
have
is
for
our
former
police
chief
lee
gavin.
G
I
presume
that
was
that
must
have
been
during
your
time
and
I'd
like
to
get
your
input
as
far
as
how
did
that
work
out,
and
how
would
how
did
you
feel
about
having
a
deputy
chief
at
the
time
as
far
as
and
how
that
would
work
out
in
today's
times,
because
you're
somebody
that's
tried
that
without
a
deputy
chief.
V
So,
council,
in
the
past,
back
when
I
was
a
chief
early
on,
we
had
a
chief
and
one
captain
that
made
it
very
difficult,
like
everyone's
seeing
in
this
day
and
age,
there's
more
administrative
responsibilities,
more
accountability
more
this
and
that
so
the
more
positions
up
at
the
top
kind
of
helps
us
all.
As
a
community.
You
know
you
can
disperse
some
of
those
duties.
V
So
when
there
was
just
me
in
in
one
captain
and
back
then
it
was
you
know
financial
situation
and
it
was
kind
of
difficult
back
in
the
heyday.
Even
before
my
time
he
had
a
chief
of
deputy
and
three
captains.
V
So
we
worked
our
way
back
up
and
then,
after
I'd
left,
you
know
part
of
the
the
agreement
when
I
left
they
brought
back
a
deputy
chief.
There
was
two
deputy
chiefs
at
the
time
and
then,
when
chief
fault
attorney,
retired
chief
petrie
moved
up,
and
then
they
went
back
to
one
deputy
chief.
V
G
V
At
this
time
I
I
gotta
say
we
have
such
a
young
department,
it's
good
to
have
the
experience
at
the
top.
You
need
that
experience,
so
many
young
guys
down
at
the
bottom.
You
got
young
guys,
training,
young
guys,
and
it's
just
hard.
I
know
today
they
had
some
interviews,
it's
just
hard
to
hire
the
new
young
officers
to
get
good
officers
they're
out
there,
but
you
just
got
to
get
the
right
fit.
You
know.
G
V
I
personally
would
say
for
the
department
it
gives
you
more
stability,
accountability
and
all
that
experience.
Okay,
thank
you.
Thank.
A
You
that's
my,
but
this
at
this
time.
I
think
we've
all
spoke.
Yeah
everybody
spoke
at
this
time.
Are
we
in
agreement
all
right?
If
how
am
I
gonna
word
this?
Do
we
agree
to
keep
this
position
in
the
budget?
Even
though
it's
been
phased
out?
If
anybody
does
not
agree
with
keeping
the
position
in
the
budget,
please
speak
up.
Otherwise
we
will
be
keeping
the
deputy
chief
in
the
budget
for
the
full
year,
not
just
the
half
year,
but
the
full
year
at
the
ninety
three
thousand
six
hundred
and
twenty
seven
dollars.
A
G
Wanna
make
sure
my
vote
on
the
wrong
thing,
so
I
think
maybe
let's
just
keep
it.
I
prefer
second
grade
english,
keep
the
position
full.
A
Okay,
councilman
musket.
Do
you
vote
to
keep
it.
B
O
A
I'm
gonna
vote
yes
and
councilman
wenzel,
you
have
muted
yourself.
Do
you
want
to
keep
the
position
or
eliminate
it.
M
A
W
Good
evening,
good
evening,
madam
chair
good
evening,
council
members-
I
just
want
to
mention
since
everybody's
here
all
the
directors
were
mentioned,
except
for
cdbg,
it
kind
of
falls
through
the
cracks.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
discuss
it
or
not,
it's
just
something
that
I
bring
up,
because
I
have
employees
that
do
deserve
rises.
W
That
I
missed
that,
that's
why
that's
I
did
discuss
that
with
mayor
bazi
and
you
know
I
don't
know
if
he
has
something
to
say
about
that.
But
we
are
not
on
your
budget.
We
are
federally
paid,
so
we're
not
on
the
city's
budget
money.
You
did
discuss
all
the
directors
and
you
left
the
dvd
out.
That's
all!
Oh.
W
I
A
X
How
are
you
doing
tonight,
good?
How
are
you
doing
not
bad
just
a
couple
things
on
this
budget
that
I
haven't
that
I've
seen
in
previous
budgets
is
there's
always
been
a
page
that
shows
at
the
beginning
of
the
budget
that
shows
expected
revenues
expected
expenditures.
X
Current
fund
balance,
exp
expected
fund
balance
at
the
end
of
this
budget
year.
This
budget
doesn't
have
that.
I
was
wondering
if
that
could
be
included.
X
Blackburn,
I
might
have
a
different
copy
than
you
guys
have
then.
X
One
yeah,
that's
the
one,
I
have
done
it
and
I
don't
have
that.
Maybe
I'm
missing
a
look,
because
I'm
concerned
about
the
raises.
X
I'm
concerned
about
the
razors
being
thrown
thro
thrown
out
there.
It's
nothing
about
the
people,
because
I
don't
want
the
people
to
be
mad
mad
at
me
with
the
expected,
with
the
increase
in
the
rages.
You
have
the
increase
in
the
fringe
benefits
and
I'm
worried
about
this.
X
This
budget's
not
gonna,
be
balanced
and
that
there's
gonna
be
a
big
chunk
taken
out
of
the
fund
balance
to
balance
the
budget,
and
I
know
I
don't
know
if
anybody
can
answer
this,
but
I
believe
that
they
want
a
15
fund
balance
to
keep
our
good
credit
rating,
and
I
want
to
know
how
a
decrease
in
the
fund
balance
would
hurt
our
prospects
of
getting
loans
in
the
future
in
the
future.
Also-
and
I
can't
remember-
that'll-
be
it
thanks.
N
Good
evening
yeah,
I
wish
I
were
I
I'm
not
as
lucky
as
you
are.
This
is
for
our
police
chief.
I've
been
I've
been
kind
of
catching
up
watching
these
videos.
Afterwards,
I
wanted
to
ask
about.
We
talked
a
while
back
about
the
peer
counseling
program
for
law
enforcement
officers.
N
I
didn't
really
see
anything
specifically
mentioned
in
the
budget.
I
haven't
really
heard
anything
heard.
You
say
anything
since
we
discussed
it
a
while
back,
and
I
was
wondering
if
you
had
budgeted
for
it.
It's
a
pretty
costly
program
to
set
up
a
pure
counseling
program
for
your
for
your
officers
for
stress
for
mental
health.
There's
a
program
called
law
enforcement,
mental
health
and
wellness
act
which
provides
funds
for
that
as
well.
N
I
I
didn't
see
anything
to
follow
up
on
there.
That
was.
That
was
one
thing.
The
other
thing
is
we're
about
public
safety
and
being
a
retired
officer
myself.
You
know
we
do
the
citations
we
had.
We
lost
a
lot
of
people.
Some
of
us
lost
family
from
covid.
N
You
know
we
issued
citations
I'd
like
to
see
if
we
get
a
rundown
of
the
number
of
citations
that
our
department
issued
for
covet
violations.
That's
public!
That's
public
safety!
I'd
like
to
see
the
number
of
citations
that
the
city
of
dearborn
heights
issued
for
covid
violations.
Thank
you
very
much
and
if
you
could
address
that
other
issue
regarding
peer
counseling
for
law
enforcement
officers,
I
would
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
R
Sure
so
I'm
sure
it
is
a
long
and
expensive
process.
Two
things
one
is:
three
officers
have
been
already
been
identified
to
create
the
program
they're
in
the
midst
of
getting
the
other
people
on
board
and
how
it's
going
to
run.
If
you
don't
remember,
we
applied
for
a
grant
through
the
federal
government,
firefighter
the
grant
writer
from
the
fire
fire
department
applied
for
it.
R
We
are
still
waiting
to
hear
back
that
will
fund
that
one
of
the
things
was
the
cortico
public
safety
act,
c-o-r-d-I-c-o
that
would
put
health
and
wellness
on
an
app
for
every
law
enforcement
officer
in
our
city,
we're
waiting
to
find
out
because
that
will
fund
it
through
grant
money.
We're
waiting
to
hear
it's,
I
think
it's
a
75
25
match.
I
don't
know.
If
that's
come
back
in
or
not,
I
would
have
to
ask
the
firefighter
grant
writer.
R
C
O
My
question
was
regarding
our
grand
writer
and
your
salary
that
you
were
going
to
give
him
or
debating
over
I've,
heard
through
grapevine
that
some
grant
writers-
I
don't
know
if
this
is
a
corporate
wise
or
not,
but
their
salaries
can
also
be
based
on
a
percentage
of
the
monies
that
are
brought
in
now.
Is
that
something
that
could
be
considered
for
the
city
here
to
possibly
satisfy
what
his
he's
asking
for
or
give
him
a
raise
in
the
future?
O
So
that's
one
thing
I
want
to
bring
up,
and
then
years
ago
I
worked
with
a
company
that
our
owner
said.
Sometimes
we
have
to
do
more
with
less
so
if
you're
gonna
keep
the
deputy
chief's
position
in
I'd,
probably
like
to
suggest
that
eliminate
the
emergency
manager
and
give
that
position
also
to
the
debit
each
look
at
it.
C
A
F
J
Yes,
yes,
thank
you,
madam
chair.
Just
a
concern
about
these
are
good
times
how
much
property
values
are
up,
we're
going
to
dip
into
our
fund
balance
and
just
to
make
sure
that
that
our
our
books
are
being
reconciled
monthly
and
also
regarding
the
cdbg
public
housing.
J
There
are
several
people
in
that
department
and
they
do
a
lot
and
they
do
bring
in
a
fair
amount
of
grant
money
themselves.
Thank
you.
B
B
I
hope
the
administration
and
the
city
council
in
the
future
will
negotiate
any
contract
to
be
fair
to
all
the
employees
and
to
be
as
fair
as
possible.
By
giving
you
know
the
increases
to
those
people
because
they
deserve
it,
and
inflation
is
very
high,
so
the
one
percent
is
not
enough,
and
I
hope
that
we
will
take
care
of
this
during
negotiations.
D
Thank
you
so
much
madam
chair,
and
I
I
know
I'm
just
going
to
keep
it
very
brief
kudos
to
all
the
directors.
Thank
you
all
so
much
for
being
on
here.
Congratulations
to
all
of
you
on
your
new
positions
and
the
er
and
the
new
raises,
and
for
the
deputy
directors
and
all
of
your
new
raises
as
well.
I
I'm
definitely
a
firm
believer
in
paying
well
get
well,
and
I
believe
we
have
a
great
staff
that
are
working
personally
over
the
last
couple
of
months.
D
I've
reached
out
to
some
of
his
newer
directors
and
anytime
I've
reached
out
to
them
they're
doing
a
phenomenal
job
and
congratulations
to
our
chief
of
police
and
our
fire
chief,
who
also
got
a
very
slight
raise.
So
congratulations
to
you
guys
as
well.
Madam
chair.
Thank
you
so
much
for
today's
meeting
and
to
the
mayor.
Thank
you
so
much
for
putting
this
budget
together
in
a
very
such
short
little
time,
as
well
as
the
controller,
and
thank
you
so
much
to
our
director
of
hr
who
did
a
phenomenal
job
with
this
as
well.
H
A
H
Heights
michigan
wayne
county,
thank
you
to
mayor
bazi
for
choosing
the
best
directors
out
there,
who's
doing
fantastic
jobs
and
thank
you
guys
for
giving
them
what
they
deserve.
Next,
I
have
a
a
specific
issue.
It's
not
a
generally
a
comment
and
I'm
wondering
if
chief
meyer
could
answer
me
for
it.
Please,
okay,
go
ahead.
A
H
Some
people
been
calling
councilman
bob
constance
office
and
making
accusation
they'd
be
getting
that
office
number
through
me.
I
have
nothing
to
do
with
this.
Councilman
bob
constant
was
super
upset
about
it.
He
made
the
issue
referred
to
me
saying
I
had
anything
to
it.
I
told
him.
I
got
nothing
to
do
with
it.
I
visited
the
police
station
to
make
a
report.
Unfortunately
they're
close
due
to
the
covet
issues.
H
So
therefore,
I'm
public,
I'm
asking
chief
meyer
for
an
investigation-
and
I
personally,
along
with
const
councilman
robert
constance,
would
both
like
to
know
who
are
these
people
and
where
did
they
get
his
number
from
I'm,
not
tolerating
anybody
using
my
name
for
any
of
their
drama
and
issues.
This
guy
has
his
own
office,
it's
open
for
business.
They
want
to
do
business
with
him.
They
can
call
him.
They
don't
want
to
do
business
with
him.
They
cannot
use
my
name
and
interrupt
him.
H
K
K
A
L
Hello
council
chair,
thank
you
so
much.
I
just
wanted
to
bring
to
everyone's
attention
that
when
we
originally
made
the
budget,
the
position
for
office
manager
under
the
building
department
was
set
at
42
000.
But
after
some
discussions
with
the
director
of
the
building
department,
we
have
decided
that
for
this
new
position,
we
would
recommend
to
set
it
at
46
000,
because
that
is
a
very
important
position.
Right
now
within
the
building
department,
especially
as
new
technologies
coming
in.
L
We
think
that
it
would
be
ideal
to
be
able
to
offer
a
higher
amount
of
money,
or
at
least
the
potential
of
getting
a
raise
to
the
new
person
that
would
be
coming
in
as
the
office
manager
and
taking
on
the
new
responsibilities.
Y
Please
good
evening,
I
I
have
a
response
to
my
friend
vance,
mr
dabrowski.
You
are
correct,
mr
dabrowski,
about
the
grant
percentage,
because
our
companies
do
that
and
actually
provide
the
information
and
secure
a
grant
they
leave.
You
still
need
a
management
and
administration
for
the
grant
specifically
grant.
Y
You
know
they
are
very
complicated
from
the
fed,
fema
very,
very
complex
thousands
of
pages
and
we've
had
situations
in
the
past
in
the
city
of
human
heights
that
the
grant
being
failed,
not
because
of
mistakes
or
anything
just
because
a
grant
sometimes
given
to
you
and
you
don't
have
the
capacity
to
to
manage
it
and
administer
those
grants.
Y
The
grant
administration,
specifically
the
federal
the
states,
are
co
interacted
with
the
budgetary
compliance,
so
they
are
kind
of
like
you
need
to
enter
enter.
You
know,
exchange
the
information
the
financials,
especially
you
know.
When
it
comes
to
audit,
you
have
to
match
your
reporting
at
the
federal
treasury
or
at
the
state
treasury
with
you
reporting
in
the
budget.
So
there
is
too
many
complex
relationship
between
managing
and
administering
the
grant
and
the
budgetary
compliance
beyond.
Y
Just
you
know
bringing
somebody
given
10
or
15
percent.
It
costs
a
lot
of
money.
So
if
you,
if,
let's
say
you
know
we
want
to,
we
want
to
have
somebody
bring
a
grant
for
fema
and
it's
five
million
dollars.
That's
a
lot
of
money
to
pay
for
that
particular
person.
Just
bring
you
a
a
grant,
then
leave
and
we've
had
experience
in
the
past
with
companies.
You
know
like
the
nsp.
Y
We
have
to
give
up
back
to
the
state
about
eight
hundred
thousand
dollars
in
the
past,
give
and
take,
and
we
you
know
if
the
city
wanted
to
use
that
particular
services,
which
I
agree
with
you.
They
have
a
lot
of
opportunity
in
the
past.
We
missed
a
lot.
I
am
reviewing.
You
know
what
we
missed
in
the
city
in
the
past.
It
is
amazing
and
and
at
no
fault
for
nobody-
it
just
you
know
like
dearborn
right
now
they
are
proposing.
You
know
to
hire
a
grant.
Y
You
know
a
compliance
manager
that
just
watched
my
my
their
debate
just
a
few
few
days
ago.
It's
it's
the
amount
of
what
we're
receiving
now
from
the
federal
government
and
from
the
state.
It's
amazing,
so
you
don't
really
want
to
pay
somebody,
because
that
person
will
be
making
probably
have
a
million
dollars
a
year
from
you.
Y
M
Okay
well,
first
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
all
the
people
that
put
this
budget
together
in
the
time
period
that
it
was
done.
They
did
a
super
job,
professional
job
and
all
aspects
of
it.
M
And
lastly,
I
just
wanted
to
let
all
the
people,
the
residents,
listening,
that
these
salary
increases
today
were
not
given
to
the
person,
but
for
the
position,
some
people,
I've
gotten
calls
saying
well
that
person
doesn't
have
this
experience,
we're
not
giving
the
person
themselves
the
raise
it's
the
position
for
that
this
person
and
all
people
down
the
line.
Thank
you.
A
A
It
gets
confusing
when
multiple
people
calling
multiple
people
about
an
issue
that
I
could
have
simply
taken
care
of
with
one
call.
A
simple
call
could
have
resolved
it
and
so
to
avoid
further
confusion,
I
ask
if
there's
a
situation
that
I
can
handle.
Please
call
me,
don't
call
everybody
else
and
pass
it
on
and
on
by
the
time
it
gets
to
me.
It
loses
the
communication
and
then
I
have
to
dig
and
find
out
really
what
the
problem
is.
At
this
time,
I'd
like
to
wish
everyone
a
good
night
and.