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From YouTube: Dearborn Heights Study Session: 1/12/21
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The Dearborn Heights Study Session regarding the Mayoral Vacancy taking place Tuesday, January 12th 2021 via Zoom.
B
C
Thank
you,
madam
chair.
I
reviewed
the
applicable
charter
provisions
and
I
think
it's
I
agree
with
councilman
musket
it's
imperative.
However,
people
that
want
to
apply
can
apply.
I
think
they
can
do
it
through
the
personnel
office
or
through
the
city
clerk,
and
we
should
have
some
assigned
documents,
something
indicating
their
background,
education
and
so
forth.
B
Know
what
what
I'm
saying
is
it
it
there's
no
provisions
in
our
charter.
That
says
we
have
to
put
it
out
for
the
public
to
sign
up
for
okay.
We
can
pick
anyone
we
want,
but
you
don't
have
to
broadcast
it
or
put
it
on
the
social
media
or
the
newspaper
to
to
to
to
do
this.
Okay.
This
is
this
is
up
to
city
council.
It
does
not
have
to
be
a
council
member
at
all,
but
we
need
to
do
this.
A
D
D
D
B
D
At
our
description,
it
is,
it
is
a
wide
open
process.
It
is
the
process,
as
the
majority
of
council
members
decide,
the
process
to
be
is
consistent
with
the
language
of
the
charter.
There's
no
procedure
that
you
are
prohibited
from
using
outside
of
you
know
something
that
would
violate
other
laws
and
there's
no
process
that
is
identified
within
the
charter
that
you
should
follow
to
fill
any
of
the
vacancies.
E
The
only
condition
they
have
on
the
charter
is
that
it
be
a
qualified
applicant
and
on
that
they
leave
that
up
to
us
as
a
council
to
decide
to
determine
who's
a
qualified
applicant.
In
addition
to
that,
they
have
to
be
a
city
resident.
But
beyond
that,
there's
nothing
else.
We
could
pick
one
today
we
could
pick
one
a
month
from
now.
We
could
pick
one
from
within
the
city
hall.
We
pick
one
from
outside
city
hall.
E
These
are
all
left
up
to
us
as
a
council,
so
for
robert
councilman,
constant
it's
at
the
end
of
the
day.
It's
up
to
us
and
in
my
personal
opinion
I
think
we
shouldn't
prolong
this
too
long,
no
matter
who
it
happens
to
be
that
we
all
vote
on
democratically.
You
know
whether
it's
tonight
I
prefer
tonight.
Personally,
I
think
we
should
pick
somebody
and
let's
move
on.
I
don't
believe
personally.
C
B
A
B
A
Says
I
have
reached
out
to
the
attorney
general
today
to
give
us
an
unbiased
opinion.
We
did
get
four
opinions
from
three
different
attorneys.
One
attorney
actually
changed
their
opinion
after
they
wrote
it
for
us
and
there
seems
to
be
a
question
of
who's
able
to
vote
and
who's
not
able
to
vote.
It's
I've
been
told
both
ways
and
I
don't
feel
it's
right.
We
take
a
vote
tonight
on
that
alone
because
somebody
might
not
vote
or
somebody
might
vote
in
error.
C
E
E
That
maybe
can
be
argued
as
a
financial
interest.
But
beyond
that,
I
don't
see
no
financial
interest.
So
to
me
a
council
member
can
vote
the
only
thing
on
there
is
in
the
charter.
It
is
left
up
to
us
and
in
the
past,
during
the
treasurer's
position,
appointment
councilman
robert
constant,
who
had
run
for
that
position,
was
not
allowed
to
vote
at
the
time.
So
if
that's
the
president's
we're
gonna
follow,
then
we
just
continue
following
that
way.
A
B
E
B
You
know
we
should
let
the
council
as
a
whole
decide
how
we're
going
to
handle
this,
and
I
will
make
the
motion
to
do
that
to
do
so.
If
it
passes
fine,
if
it
doesn't,
then
we'll
go
to
plant
b
and
and
hopefully,
we'll
have
a
special
meeting.
So
we
can
get
the
ball
rolling
here,
because
I
I
think
it's
necessary.
C
I'm
just
going
to
say,
it'll
be
a
while
before
you
hear
from
the
attorney
general.
I
believe
I
hope
I'm
wrong,
but
there
are
a
lot
of
communities.
I
know
the.
I
know
two
people
up
there,
the
the
solicitor
general
and
then
the
the
deputy
who's
been
there
forever.
But
I
I
think
it's
clear
that
all
the
council
members
vote.
I
think
it
requires
four
votes
and
I
agree
we
should
fill
the
position
as
soon
as
possible.
B
E
E
So
at
least
the
audience
and
the
citizens
who
are
who
we
are
elected
to
vote
on
their
behalf
can
at
least
know
what
our
thought
process
is
based
on
the
opinions
that
we
receive
from
the
two
attorneys
that
are
either
currently
employed
with
the
city
or
whatever
the
other
situation
is
either
way.
We
could
get
those
two
opinions
at
least
publicly,
because
a
lot
of
the
residents
are
listening
to
this
did
not
have
access
to
the
same
stuff
that
we
read.
Would
you
be
okay
with
that?
E
A
D
D
F
F
F
When
that
was
brought
to
my
attention.
It
was
also
brought
to
my
attention
that
there
had
been
a
prior
decision
of
the
council
that
would
prohibit
the
person
under
consideration
to
fill
a
position
from
voting
for
themselves,
based
upon
that,
I
deferred
to
that
opinion.
However,
in
reading
the
charter
provision
myself,
I
believe
it's
consistent
with
robert's
rules
of
order,
and
I
I
don't
agree
with
the
past
interpretation.
F
F
That
person
would
have
a
pecuniary
interest
that
is
not
shared
by
the
other
council
members
and
they
should
abstain
from
voting
because
they
have
that
pecuniary
interest.
That
is
not
the
case
when
you're
talking
about
this
type
of
an
appointment,
everybody
if
they
are
appointed
would
enjoy
whatever
pecuniary
benefit
you
would
receive
from
that
work
that
additional
work,
the
new
position.
F
Similarly,
anybody
outside
the
council,
that's
appointed
by
the
council
to
fulfill
the
term
of
the
mayor
until
the
next
election
would
also
enjoy
that
that
same
benefit.
So
this
is
not
the
type
of
bikinary
interest
that
I
think
is
contemplated
in
that
abstention
requirement,
and
I
would
urge
council
not
to
adopt
that
stricter
reading
on
the
on
the
charter.
D
D
F
F
G
G
C
G
So
I
guess
council
chair.
If
I,
if
I
may
comment,
thank
you,
I
sent
out
two
two
emails.
One
was
something
that
I
started
to
prepare
before.
I
knew
that
mr
roberts
was
preparing
an
opinion,
so
I
did
send
out
that
opinion,
which
basically,
I
think,
clarified
a
number
of
issues
that
I
don't
know
that
are
disputed
at
this
point.
G
Essentially,
the
fact
that
we
need
to
have
someone
selected,
the
person
selected
in
general
just
needs
to
fill
the
requirements
of
section
4.2
of
the
of
the
charter,
which
would
be
the
residency
and
qualified
elector.
It
does
not
have
to
be
a
member
of
the
council,
and
also
it
pertains
to
the
duties
that
you
as
council
chair
now
end
up
performing
in
terms
of
mayor
pro
tem,
as
opposed
to
you
actually
filling
the
vacancy
automatically
or
otherwise.
G
But
I
want
to
address
this
voting
issue
because,
unfortunately,
I
just
was
able
to
send
out
an
email
at
5
37
today,
and
I
don't
know
that
anyone
had
an
opportunity.
So
essentially,
the
the
email
was
consistent
with
what
mr
roberts
has
has
stated
in
general
and
also
is
based
on
a
conversation
I
had
with
adam
dado,
who
was
corporation
counsel
back
in
1992
when
joe
kuczynski
sometimes
referred
to
as
joe
kaczynski
jr.
G
So
there's
actually
an
older
precedent
that
essentially
says
that
voting
for
yourself
is
allowed.
Mr
dado's
opinion
was
consistent
with
some
of
the
reasoning
that
mr
roberts
has
already
shared.
So
I
don't
see
the
need
to
go
into
any
detail
with
regard
to
that,
but
that
it
really
comes
down
to
the
idea
that
a
financial
interest
is
contemplated
by
the
charter
is
not
an
interest.
G
Merely
an
appointment,
and
essentially
one
of
the
things
that
I
thought
about
was
the
idea
that
if
you
use
the
rule
that
restrictively,
namely
if
you
said
that
the
pro
prohibition
caught
any
time
where
someone
would
end
up
potentially
having
any
financial
benefit,
the
council
chair,
no
one
could
end
up
voting
for
someone
for
council
chair.
They
couldn't
vote
for
themselves
as
council
chair,
because
they
would
earn
an
extra
few
thousand
dollars
to
end
up
being
the
council
chair.
G
G
I
think
that
the
those
who
frame
the
city
charter
were
aware
of
this
rule
within
robert's
rules
of
order
and
that
therefore,
robert's
rules
of
order
would
be
very
persuasive
in
this
context.
So
I
believe
that
everyone
should
be
able
to
vote
who's
on
the
charter
or
on
I'm
sorry
on
the
council,
including
someone
who
is
potentially
going
to
end
up
being
appointed
based
on
that
interpretation,
and
I
think
that
the
interpretation
that
was
used
during
the
fall
and
applied
to
councilman
constand
was
too
restrictive.
G
A
So
I
did
speak
with
ruth
canfield
today,
because
I
figured
if
anybody
could
know
what
was
going
on.
It
would
be
her
because
she's
you
know
the
campfields
have
been
in
the
city
forever
since
the
beginning
of
time,
and
she
did
say
that
you
find
out
who
is
interested
and
she
did
say.
Yes,
you
would
vote.
If
you
were,
you
know
I
would
vote
on
it,
so
that
was
basically
what
she
had
to
say.
She
said
they've
always
went
out
to
find
out
who
is
interested
first.
C
Yeah
briefly,
I
I,
I
think
you
know
we're
saying
different
sides
of
the
same
thing.
We
all
agree
that
position
has
to
be
filled
as
soon
as
possible.
We
all
agree
that
it's,
of
course
everybody
has
a
vote.
I
mean
councils
vote
to
fill
vacancies.
All
the
time,
and
you
know
often
one
of
the
parties
is-
is
a
member
of
the
council.
I
think
that's
clear.
A
H
H
We
can
put
it
in
the
pressing
guide
we
can
like.
I
did
for
console
the
council
vacancy.
I
would
put
it
on
the
city
website.
I'm
sure
john
cena
can
would
put
it
on
the
facebook
page.
I
even
thought
maybe
we
could
put
it
on
michigan
municipal
league,
although
they
have
to
be
a
resident
of
dearborn
heights,
but
it's
up
to
it's
up
to
the
councils.
I
work
for
the
council,
so
I
would
take
your
direction
also.
We.
I
Go
ahead,
yeah
just
for
the
people
that
are
listening
very
quickly
for
one
of
the
attorneys
here,
you
know,
explain
really
quickly.
The
process
who
who
takes
over
for
the
mayor
upon
after
his
death
and
the
title
of
position
and
to
clarify.
Is
there
any
kind
of
stipulation
of
a
30-day
period
where,
if
nothing,
no
action
is
that
the
acting
man.
F
F
The
vacancy
is
filled
by
a
majority
vote
of
the
city
council.
It
does
not
have
to
be
anybody
in
particular,
it
doesn't
have
to
be
a
member
of
council.
It
can
be
anybody
chosen
by
council,
there's
no
time
frame
provided
in
the
interim,
in
my
opinion,
the
best
reading
of
the
charter
in
the
interim
prior
to
the
appointment
of
such
a
person.
F
The
temporary
absence
of
the
mayor
would
be
filled
by
the
mayor
pro
10
provision.
The
mayor
pro
tem
does
not
occupy
the
office
of
mayor,
but
the
mayor
pro
tem
fulfills
the
functions
of
the
mayor
pen.
Well,
most
of
them
there's
a
couple
exceptions
but
fulfills
the
the
day-to-day
functions
of
the
mayor.
F
F
F
F
F
F
F
The
only
time
frames
discussed
in
that
provision
are
that
the
person
selected
by
counsel,
once
they're
approved,
would
serve
until
the
next
general
election
in
the
city
and
until
the
person
elected
at
that
next
election
assumes
office.
So
that
would
be
your
appointment
would
serve
until
basically,
the
next
elected
official
is
takes
off.
So.
I
D
That
there's
no
limit
there
is
a
provision
in
the
charter
that
says
upon
30
days.
The
mayor
pro
tem
can
be
entitled
to
additional
compensation.
If
the
mayor
pro
tem
continues
to
serve.
So
if
council
doesn't
appoint
somebody
else
and
the
mayor
pro
tem
continues
for
an
indefinite
period,
the
council
can
authorize
additional
compensation
equivalent
to
the
pro
rata
share
of
the
mayor's
salary.
G
Thank
you
and
it's
it's.
I
would
only
add
a
slight
tweak
to
that
to
what
mr
shank
has
ended
up
indicating,
namely
that
it
is
as
may
be
allowed
by
the
council.
In
other
words,
the
council
has
the
discretion
whether
or
not
to
give
additional
compensation
council
may
feel
that
it's
unnecessary
under
the
circumstances,
for
example.
G
G
One
election
will
be
for
the
period
between
approximately
november
of
2021
until
december,
31st
of
2021
and
one
election
will
be
for
the
new
full
term,
starting
january
1st,
of
2022
for
the
four
years.
So
there
will
need
to
be
two
elections
for
mayor
in
november
of
2021,
just
like,
if
all
of
you
recall,
when
rashida
talib
and
brenda
jones
ended
up
basically
running,
and
then
we
had
brenda
jones,
I
believe,
was
the
congresswoman
for
a
very
short
period
of
time.
G
A
G
It
was
a
selection
that
took
place
rather
rather
quickly
and
that's
how
mayor
paletko
ended
up
being
appointed
to
fill
that
vacancy.
So
while
it
might
be
as
a
matter
of
prudence
or
a
matter
of
practicality,
something
where
you
would
want
to
seek
applicants,
it's
not
required
and
hasn't
necessarily
been
been
done
in
the
past
consistently
by
this
body.
H
Okay,
it's
my
turn.
Yep.
I
didn't
hear
what
you
say.
Okay,
I
didn't
hear
what
you
said.
I
do
want
to
say
that
I
did.
I
know
I
forwarded
it
to
the
council
members,
but
mr
miyaki
is
right,
but
just
so
that
you
know
that
was
published
for
mayor
the
the
mayoral
and
the
clerk
vacancy
when
mayor
canfield
retired,
as
well
as
clerk
robbins.
I
think
it
was.
There
was
on
a
review
of
the
candidates
and
then
there
it
was
rather
quick.
It
was
published
on
december
21st.
A
F
F
F
A
D
A
B
C
A
A
J
I
think
it
is
only
fair
for
all
the
city
council
members
to
vote.
It's
not
fair,
you
know
to
prevent
them
from
voting
for
themselves,
and
I
hope
that
we
can
do
this
as
soon
as
possible.
Publish
it
have
other
people
apply,
because
there
might
be
some
candidates
who
are
more
qualified
than
everybody
to
be
mayor,
and
I
hope
this
to
be
fast.
J
L
L
A
A
A
L
M
Hi
good
afternoon,
my
name
is
mike
shahadi
from
durban
heights.
Personally,
I
would
like
to
see
someone
from
the
city
council
to
be
voted
in
as
a
mayor.
You
guys
are
all
very
familiar
with
the
city
day-to-day
operation
for
us
to
bring
someone
from
the
outside,
to
train
him
or
to
tell
him
what
needs
to
be
done.
There's
no
need
to
keep
dragging
it
for
another
week
and
another
week
and
let's
vote
on
it
next
week.
There
are
a
lot
of
pending.
A
K
He
met
him
cheer
city
council
members.
I
was
very
upset
to
hear
that
the
mayor
passed,
especially
if
kovid
it's
a
very
serious
situation
going
on
in
our
country
right
now.
One
thing
that
we
need
to
keep
in
mind
after
this
business
gets
taken
care
of,
and
that
is
there
needs
someone
already
addressed.
K
This
pointnet
is
that
we
need
to
have
a
line
of
succession
in
our
charter,
so
that
just
like
in
our
country,
as
someone
said,
we
need
to
know
clearly
if
something
happens
to
one
of
our
members,
our
executive
branch,
we
need
to
clearly
have
a
delineation
of
who
is
in
charge.
Next,
madam
chair
hats,
off
to
you
for
stepping
up
and
doing
what
the
what
the
charter
says,
but
it
looks
like
there's
a
lot
of
fog.
K
K
It's
two
attorneys
in
the
same
office
and
mr
roberts
is
kind
of
smiling
because
you
pay
an
attorney
in
the
same
office
for
an
opinion
and
I'll
give
you
a
different
opinion.
The
problem
is,
if
it
isn't
in
black
and
white,
and
sometimes
even
if
it
is,
it's
gonna,
be
a
different
opinion.
So
it'd
be
great.
If
we
could
work
on
when
we
can
obviously
a
charter
revision.
I
know
it's
been
one
of
the
things
that's
close
to
a
lot
of
our
council
and
women.
K
A
Unfortunately,
last
february
I
had
a
study
session
to
start
a
charter
review
committee,
but
apparently
it
didn't
go
very
far.
I
knew
our
charter
was
very
great,
wasn't
black
and
white
and
there
was
a
lot
to
be
desired
and
how
it's
interpreted,
and
unfortunately,
that's
why
I
tried
to
do
it.
Go
ahead.
Councilman,
constand,
well,.