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From YouTube: Dearborn Heights Study Session (2) - 6/21/22
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The Dearborn Heights Study Session regarding the Warren Valley Golf Course taking place Tuesday, June 21st 2022 in the Dearborn Heights Council Chambers and via Zoom.
A
All
right
good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
it
is
right
now
6
47
p.m.
On
tuesday
june
21st
this
particular
study
session.
This
is
our
second
study
session
for
today
and
this
one's
on
warren
valley.
Golf
course
one
of
the
initiators
well,
of
course,
I
scheduled
it,
but
there
was
a
resolution
put
in
place
by
councilman
tom
wenzel,
so
I'm
going
to
give
him
an
opportunity
to
go
ahead
and
speak
first
and
then
go
ahead
and
go
from
there.
Councilman.
B
Thank
you,
council,
chair.
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
congratulate
all
the
people
that
had
the
part
hand
in
organizing
the
juneteenth
events.
This
past
weekend,
I
was
honored
to
attend
some
of
them
and
they're
really
really
a
good,
especially
the
one
at
the
richard,
a
young
center.
What
a
first
class
operation
that
was
I'll
tell
you
me,
and
the
family
had
a
great
time
there.
Thank
you
for
everyone
involved.
B
Okay.
Now
this
golf
outing
issue
on
the
golf
outing
golf
course
golf
course
issue.
First
of
all,
you
know
I
want
to
make
it
clear.
You
know
that
I
have
no
ill
feelings
toward
the
esa
brothers
at
all.
I've
never
said
anything
negative
about
them
in
public
or
in
private
and,
on
the
contrary,
I've
had
discussions
with
them,
and
I
stated
I
preferred
them
over
others
because
of
their
certain
business
experience
I've
given
them
the
ultimate
support.
B
I
voted
for
them,
and
so
I
I
just
don't
like
these
people's
people,
different
people
stir
in
the
pot
here
causing
frictions
where
there
shouldn't
be
any
frictions
and
I've
even
heard.
You
know
I've
heard
that
they're
cutting
the
grass.
I
mean
why
should
they
have
to
put
the
bill
to
cut
the
grass
is
a
city-owned
property,
and
the
city
should
have
been
there
from
day
one
this
spring,
cutting
the
grass
and
issa
brothers
shouldn't
have
to
be
paying
the
money.
For
that.
That's
that's!
That's
unacceptable!
B
And
you
know
these
the
brothers,
you
know
they're
good,
for
our
community
they've
created
jobs,
and
you
know
from
there
I'm
just
going
to
say
that
I'm
not
going
to
vote
yes
on
a
contract
that
favors
any
public
officials,
I'm
not
going
to
vote
on
a
contract
that
favors
any
potential
concessionaires.
B
Now
the
corporation
council
drafted
a,
I
guess,
a
charter
amendment
sort
of
is
that
what
gary
charter
amendment
that
you
presented
to
us
a
resolution
as
a
charter,
yeah
yeah
resolution
that
proposed
the
charter
amendment-
and
it
was
kind
of
lengthy
and-
and
you
know
not
not
to
say
anything
about
it
about
gary,
he
was.
He
was
writing
everything
he
was
given.
It
was
vague
in
a
lot
of
areas,
but
I
just
want
to
revise
that
and
make
it
really
simple
and
then
the
charter
amendment
I
want
to
put
in
there.
B
The
only
thing
I
want
to
put
in
is
any
sale
of
the
golf
course
which
is
described
in
the
original
bill.
The
sale
from
the
from
the
city
of
different
heights
between
them
and
wayne
county
any
properties
in
that
agreement
any
sale.
Those
probably
should
be
approved
by
the
voters.
B
It's
plain
and
simple:
that's
I
mean
you
could
do
it
a
couple
lines
instead
of
pages
and
pages
and
any
any
renovations
or
additions
or
improvements
over
fifteen
hundred
dollars
to
this
property
should
be
approved
by
city
council
and
maybe
even
on
a
a
super
cash
super
super
support,
five
votes.
B
C
Actually,
the
proposed
charter
amendment
is
very
short,
and
even
the
charter,
language
and
language
is
short,
although
this
is
consistent
with
what
I've
talked
about
in
the
past
in
terms
of
maybe
just
keeping
the
city
from
selling
the
property,
there
could
also
be
something
to
be
careful
about
it
being
alienated
under
some
sort
of
long-term
lease
that
sometimes
has
ended
up
happening
where
you
have
a
long-term
lease
and
say:
oh,
it's
only
it's
only
one
dollar
at
least
so
now
we
can
do
a
50-year
lease
with
someone
who
essentially
gets
to
end
up
using
the
property,
and
I
could
draft
what
the
councilman
is
saying,
but
it's
going
to
be
about
the
same
length
if
that's
a
concern:
yeah,
okay,
okay,.
A
Okay,
so
for
for
myself
personally,
my
personal
viewpoint,
not
as
a
body
but
as
a
councilman,
though
I
just
feel
that
residents
elect
us
to
make
decisions
and
we
start
making
charter
amendments
on
this
line.
For
example.
This
particular
resolution
here
says
that
on
a
city-owned
property,
any
type
of
here
we
go
for
the
purposes
of
this
section,
north
of
the
clubhouse.
A
Anything
north
of
the
clubhouse,
as
far
as
development
is
concerned,
would
have
to
go
through
the
residence
and
to
me
that
honestly
makes
no
sense
because
for
the
city
and
for
the
concessionaire,
so
let's
start
for
the
for
the
concessionaire.
A
For
example,
in
this
particular
case,
the
one
that
went
out
is
putting
out
3.4
million
dollars
in
improvements,
3.4
million
dollars,
we're
not
talking
about
3
500,
that's
a
lot
of
money
and
in
addition
to
that,
at
least
based
on,
I
haven't
seen
the
new
contract
as
of
yet
which
is
supposed
to
be
here
at
the
next
council
meeting,
which
is
next
tuesday,
so
we'll
be
receiving
that
in
the
next
couple
days.
Hopefully.
A
A
Again,
I've
not
seen
the
contract
to
know
the
final
outcome
before
we
vote
on
it
with
that
being
the
case,
anybody
that
opens
up
any
type
of
business.
It's
got.
They've
got
to
make
a
profit
in
order
to
make
a
profit.
Sometimes
you
got
to
go
a
little
bit
outside
the
box
and
start
doing
things
that
can
bring
in
more
people
into
the
golf
course
for
them
to
make
a
profit.
In
addition
to
that,
I
feel
that
I
as
a
resident-
and
I
as
a
councilman-
I
would
want
something
on
that
golf
course.
A
Yes,
golf
would
still
be
part
of
it.
I
think
I've
said
it
three
thousand
times
already,
but
also
it
could
be
other
types
of
entertainment
that
could
be
added
on
there
in
order
for
it
to
be
more
viable
and
longer
lasting
versus
something
that's
not
viable,
not
profitable,
where
in
a
particular
case
we
may
potentially
either
lose
the
concession.
Here
again
I
don't
know
what
the
contract
says.
We
want
something
viable.
A
So
if,
if
being
viable
means-
and
I'm
just
throwing
stuff
out
there
right
now-
maybe
during
non-golfing
times
you
know
they
want
to
use
it
for
maybe
like
people
that
want
to
go
jogging.
Maybe
you
know
in
the
winter
yeah
in
the
winter
cross-country
skiing-
maybe
tobogganing-
maybe
I
don't
know-
maybe
a
nice
restaurant
outside.
I
don't
know
what
it
is,
but
we
are
not
gonna
leave
it
go
up
for
to
a
vote,
because
if
you're
gonna
do
it
like
like
that,
then
we
should
have
a
charter
announcement.
A
Please
now
we
should
have
a
charter
amendment
that
city
hall
can
never
be
sold.
We
should
have
a
charter
amendment
that
the
berlin
center
can
never
be
sold
or
have
auditions
on
it.
We
should
have
a
charter
amendment
on
the
library,
et
cetera,
et
cetera,
et
cetera
residents,
elect
council
members
to
make
a
decision
on
their
behalf
and
they
have
to
make
decisions
on
behalf
of
the
residents.
B
Council
chair,
I
don't
know
if
you're
listening
to
what
I
was
saying
is
the
the
new
language
would
not
involve
any
of
the
things
you
were
just
talking
about.
As
far
as
the
people
voting
on
all
those
things,
all
I
said
was
it'd
be
up
to
the
people
to
vote.
If
the
property
was
ever
sold.
B
B
There's
there's
talk
going
on
about
how
we
were
on
city
council
when
this
happened
and
we
weren't
myself
and
the
mayor-
and
I
don't
know
I
have
obviously
mowing
hassan,
but
you
know
this
was
done
by
you
know
by
the
persuasion
of
the
voters
to
buy
this,
and
if
someone
you
know
because
someone
comes
along,
you
know
halfway
through
the
year
and
says
hey.
B
D
F
B
That's
all
I'm
saying
I
said
you
know:
let's
make
it
simple
simple:
I'm
gonna
vote.
Yes,
you
know,
like
mr
miyaki
said,
it's
still,
gonna
be
a
couple
pages,
but
basically
only
restrictions
are.
You
know
the
sale
of
the
property
that's
described
in
the
original
bill
of
sale
between
wayne
county
and
you
say
dublin
heights
and
either
sale
that
property
or
or
dwellings
on
that
property.
We
go
through
the
voters.
B
D
But
I
want
you
to
know
if,
let's
just
say
this,
if
renderings
were
put
together
and
a
bunch
of
things
were
going
to
be
done,
are
you
going
to
look
at
the
rendering
and
say
okay?
Well,
this
you
know
swing
sets
can
be
able
to
be
approved.
The
swimming
pool
here
is
not
going
to
be
approved,
or
are
we
going
to
look
at
the
rendering
and
say
hey?
This
all
looks
great.
Let's
move
forward.
A
Do
you
want
me
to
tell
you
and
I'll
say
it
here
publicly?
Let
me
tell
you
what
I
would
love
my
personal
as
a
councilman
vision,
for
that
property
would
be
if
that
property
can
have
a
golf
course
on
there.
But
in
addition,
they
have
something
fairly
similar
to
give
you
something
like
a
local
reference
to
be
able
to
look
at
to
what
was
at
the
fairlink
club,
where
you'd
have
either
like
you
know,
tennis
courts
you'd
have
a
swimming
pool
outside
a
gym
for
the
residents
to
use.
A
D
Let's
see
why
don't
we
just
do
one
better?
Why
don't
we?
Why
don't
you
know
somebody
here,
anybody
that
has
any
concerns.
Take
a
look
at
the
dearborn
country
club.
It
has
amazing
venues
for
like
mother's.
D
D
Well,
my
brother-in-law
is,
I
just
use
his
but
same
thing.
What
is
that
you're
taking
us
off
uh-huh,
no.
A
D
I
I
am
that
maybe
custom
and
dave
don't
look
good
he's
got
the
money
of
him,
not
me,
but
but
I
just
want
you
guys
to
envision
that,
and
I
don't
know
if
you've
ever
been
a
counselor,
but
I
would
love
to
take
you
there.
Yeah
that'd
be
awesome.
D
D
C
But
the
what
I
was
going
to
say
again,
because
we
were
talking
about
the
length
of
the
proposal
will
have
to
be
whatever
puts,
is
put
before
the
voters
is
going
to
be
a
hunter
right
right.
So
you
know,
don't
don't
worry
about
that?
It's
just
a
matter
of
me
having
to
wordsmith
it
down
and
get
everything
in
so
that
the
state
likes
it.
G
Ultimately,
thank
you,
and
I
agree
with
both
councilman
abdullah
and
with
our
corporation
council.
Anything
that's
pages
and
pages
people
are
going
to
take
the
time
to
read
they're
not
going
to
like
it
they're
not
going
to
vote
for
it,
and
there
was
a
lot
of
talk
that
well.
It'll
just
take
four
votes
and
the
developer
can
buy
it
and
put
up.
Oh
it
takes
the
mayor.
The
council
takes
the
approval
by
the
state
and
and
again
nobody's
talking
about
that.
We
don't
normally
want
to
put
restrictions
on
property,
taylor,
metals,
for
example.
G
They
have
a
retention
pond
they've,
actually
stocked
it
with
fish.
So
the
golf
course
which
is
built
on
a
flood
plain
serves
several
purposes,
and
but
I
don't
have
the
expertise
to
say:
do
this?
G
Don't
do
that
and
and
if
we're
gonna
attract
an
investor
to
put
in
time
and
money,
it's
gonna
need
to
be
something
that's
viable,
something
that
has
several
uses
like,
like
you
say,
like
the
fairland
club
or
wherever
tennis
golf
pool
workout
facility,
so
on
and
so
forth,
even
even
the
former
developer,
when
he
was
there
came
to
us
he
wanted
to
put
in
the
machines
the
simulator
machines.
G
A
But
what
I
had
noticed
is
any
bible
golf
course.
You
know
what
is
the
shenandoah,
for
example,
with
shenandoah.
Remember
we're
there
at
the
event.
You
know
that
has
multiple
things
that
could
be
used
by
residents.
The
dearborn
country
club
is
the
same
way.
The
fairland
club
is
the
same
way.
That's
my
personal
vision
of
it
is
having
additional
things
for
residents
to
use.
Maybe
that
don't
golf
but
can
still
see
so
from
my
personal
vision
of
it
is
an
entertainment
community
with
golf
in
there
recreation.
G
A
D
Of
the
day,
these
these
aspirations
and
these
visions
and
everything
that
we
inspire
for
is
just
our
opinion
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
it
is
just
something
that
we
can
also
be
hopefully
wishing
for
it
all
comes
down
to
the
concierge
and
the
decisions
that
he
or
she
brings
forward,
and
I'm
sure
the
kinds
here
that
brought
forward
is
going
to.
D
You
know
ultimately
bring
on
some
contractors
he's
going
to
have
some
rendering
that
are
going
to
be
done
and
if
it
works,
it
works
and
if
it
doesn't,
it
doesn't.
But
I
I
share
those
same
dreams
and
hopeful.
Hopefully
we'll
have
a
swimming
pool
there
and
that's
what
I
would
like
to
see
believe
it
or
not.
A
But
also
if
you
can
address
something
because
I've
had
residents
ask
in
regards
to
the
contract,
if
it'll
be
on
this
coming
week's
agenda
and
obviously
I
haven't
gotten
all
the
stuff,
it
is
a
contract.
I
don't
know
if
I'm
putting
on
a
spy
here,
but
is
it
contract?
No
I've.
C
It's
just
not
like.
If
it's
not
you
know,
it
takes
two
two
parties
to
end
up
doing
anything,
and
this
is
a
big
big
agreement,
but
this
is
where
we're
at
I
turned
over
to
to
the
mayor
and
to
the
chief
of
staff,
where
we
are
as
far
as
we
are
at
this
time,
which
is
most
the
way
you'll
see
what
the
agreement
pertains.
C
The
big
issues
have
to
do
with
the
development
language
when
I
say
the
development
language,
I'm
talking
about
the
improvements
to
be
made
to
the
premises,
how
much
is
paid,
how
much
of
a
guarantee
there
is.
What's
the
matter
of
the
the
amount
of
rent
things
along
those
lines,
how
things
are
going
to
be
managed
if
they're
going
to
be
managed?
C
Those
types
of
items
are
all
addressed
right
now
and
what
what
has
been
submitted-
and
you
know
frankly,
if
the
council's
body
wants
different
direction.
You'll
know
whether
or
not
you
want
to
go
forward
with
this
and
have
us
tweak
out
the
the
rest
of
it
or,
if
you're
going
to
say
look,
we
want
certain
other
things
a
little
different
here
and
we're
going
to
insist
on
those
things
and
if
that's
indeed
the
case,
then
then
we'll
we'll
deal
with
it.
So.
C
A
contract,
a
proposed
agreement
that
was
sent
over
to
by
me
to
mr
shank,
but
it
still
has
some
details
that
have
to
be
worked
out,
and
I
don't
know
if
those
details
will
be
worked
out
by
now.
You
will
end
up
that's
correct,
but
you
will
end
up
having
the
bulk
of
everything
that
matters.
As
far
as
I'm
concerned,
I
mean
issues.
I
don't
imagine
that
this
body
is
going
to
sit
there
and
say
gary.
C
We
don't
like
your
title,
6
language
here
that
you
and
mr
shank
have
been
going
over
you're,
probably
not
even
going
to
necessarily
understand
those
issues.
Unless
I
explain
them
to
you
and
even
then
you
might
be
like
well,
that's
just
something
legal.
You
know
we'll
just
defer
to
you
but
you're,
going
to
be
concerned
about
the
stuff
that
we've
already
gone
over
you're,
going
to
be
concerned
about
the
length
you're
going
to
be
concerned
about
the
payment
terms,
you're
going
to
be
concerned
about
what
requirements
there
are
or
are
not
with
respect
to
development.
C
What's
anticipated
in
terms
of
development
what's
required
in
terms
of
insurance
and
those
things
are
all
have
already
been
negotiated.
So
if
there's
an
issue
at
that
point,
then
you
know
we
can
address
it
and
maybe
by
addressing
it
that
will
end
up
providing
some
clarity
in
terms
of
some
further
negotiation.
I
guess
that's.
A
Where
we
put
it
sure,
just
if
you
give
one
one
second
councilman,
I
think
he
had
gone
up
to
say.
Something
else
is
that
all
you
had
to
say.
Was
there
something
else?
Well.
C
I
was,
I
was
actually
planning
to
just
kind
of
summarize
what
I
thought
you
were
looking
for,
so
I
can
know
what
I'm
supposed
to
in.
B
Thank
you,
gary
miyake,
those
four
or
five
issues
that
you
mentioned
in
the
contract.
That's
more
than
we
received
on
information
about
the
contract
in
three
months.
That's
the
first
time
I've
heard
of
any
issue
that
was
an
issue
on
these
contracts.
Thank
you.
I
mean
I've
asked
several
times
and
I've
never
been
given
any
answers
on
what's
holding
anything
up,
even
though
those
aren't
holding
things
up,
they
might
have
already
been
resolved
or
whatever
that's
the
first
time.
Anyone
on
this
city
council
heard
anything
about
this
contract.
C
So
so,
as
I
understand
it,
if
I'm
a
council
chair
what
we're
looking
at
is
like
a
revi
revised
proposed
charter
amendment
that
will
be
more
simplified
and
have
to
do
with
sale
understanding
that,
for
example,
you're
not
that's
not
where
you're
at
in
terms
of
things,
but
councilman
wenzel,
at
least
to
move
the
discussion
away
from
the
whole
issue
of
development
correct,
and
that
will
be
it.
A
C
And,
and
if
in,
if
I
may
one
point
with
regard
to
the
sale
being
approved
by
voters,
part
of
the
reason
I've
mentioned
this-
and
this
is
something
that
does
not
apply
to
to
your
body.
But
the
reason
why
I've
mentioned
it
is
because
essentially
there's
a
hole
in
the
whole
idea
of
we're
going
to
put
a
prohibition
on
development,
and
that
is,
if
you
can
sell
the
property.
C
The
whole
development
and
the
restriction
on
the
city
is
is
not
is
not
a
good
issue.
But
if
you
look
at
what's
ended
up
happening
with
a
lot
of
municipalities
as
they've
gone
through
more
austerity,
what
they
end
up
doing
is
they
sell
off
real
property
as
a
quick
fix
and
that
can't
necessarily
be
undone.
C
So
there's
if
there's
a
concern
that
the
property
is
just
going
to
be
sold
as
a
quick
fix
to
basically
end
up
being
able
to
patch
a
budget
hole
that
another
administration
or
another
council
is
never
going
to
be
able
to
deal
with,
because
that
property's
gone.
That's
part
of
the
reason
for
this
in
terms
of
the
discussions
that
I've
had.
I
just
wanted.
A
But
in
terms
of
development,
if,
let's
just
use
hypothetical
20
years
from
now,
a
city
council
body,
you
know
of
well
first
of
all,
they
can't
sell
it.
But
if
it
went
up
for
sale,
then
they
could
put
deed
restrictions
on
possible
development.
What
have
you
that's
where
you
put
in
the
restrictions
at
that
particular
point
if
we
were
talking
about
selling
it,
but
we
are
saying
right
now,
with
this
resolution,
it'd
be
set
up
in
a
way
where
we
cannot,
as
a
council
body,
decide
to
sell
it.
C
By
the
voters
and-
and
that
would
be-
and
I
would
probably
put
in
something
about
some
sort
of
long-term
long-term
lease
or
lo
because
again,
you
know
if
I'm
going
to
draft
something
unless
you
know.
Obviously
it's
not
my
call
it's
your
call,
but
I
mean
ultimately,
the
idea
is
to
end
up
protecting
things
against
people
trying
to
be
clever
to
evade
these
things
right.
A
A
One
more
item
counselor
in
regards
to
the
fifteen
hundred
dollar
amount.
I
I'm
speaking
for
myself
on
behalf
of
myself,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
that!
Because
for
fifteen
hundred
dollars
you
could
buy
a
nice
bike
for
fifteen
hundred
dollars.
A
You
could
buy
a
nice
plant
so
to
limit
the
administration
and
whoever's
taking
over
that
particular
entity
for
making
any
changes,
and
everything
has
to
go
through
a
city
council
body
to
be
to
me
that's
too
cumbersome
and
it
makes
it
almost
impossible
to
get
any
type
of
work
or
or
or
continuous
business
done.
With
a
1500
limit.
Fifteen
hundred
bucks
I
mean,
I
can
name
me
a
thousand
things,
including
at
some
restaurants,
downtown
detroit,
where
you
could
get
a
dinner
for
fifteen
hundred
dollars.
So
to
me,
that's
too
low
of
an
amount.
A
C
Dollars:
okay!
Well,
we
I'll
try
to
draft
it
so
that
dollar
amount.
The
threshold
can
end
up
being
changed
depending
on
what
your
body
wants
to
do
with
it.
Okay,
sound
good.
A
Thank
you,
so
any
other
comments
from
the
council
members
and
I
allow
people
from
the
audience
to
speak.
Of
course,
too.
Anybody
else,
okay.
So
at
this
particular
point
we
have
our
city,
council,
police
woman
here
with
us
leslie.
So
I'm
going
to
go
to
the
zoo
meeting
questions.
First,
anybody
on
zoom
that
has
any
questions,
concerns
or
comments,
we're
going
to
zoom
we're
going
to
zoom
first
yeah
yeah,
it's
still
on
the
gulf,
we're
still
in
the
gulf.
A
E
Rachel
appoint
merrick
street
dearborn
heights,
perhaps
instead
of
the
1500
looking
at
something
like
a
5,
000
or
10
000
limit
like
where
those
renovations
are
actually
something
that
you
would
want
to
have
input
on.
I
think
switching
it
up
to
be
the
sale.
I
think
that's
a
great
idea.
I
think
that
that
sort
of
resolves
a
lot
of
people's
concerns,
because
that
is
the.
E
I
think,
the
big
concern
that
portions
of
the
property
or
or
the
entire
property-
and
perhaps
that
might
be
something
to
consider
saying
whether
it's
a
portion
of
the
property
or
the
entire
property
to
be
sold
would
need
to
be
approved
because
yeah.
I
think
that
is
the
biggest
concern
that
people
have
they're
worried
that
it's
going
to
be
sold
and
turned
into
a
bunch
of
houses
and
they're
going
to
get
all
this
flooding
right,
and
I
don't
there's
no
reason
for
you
guys
to
put
houses
there.
So
yeah,
that's
the
big
issue.
E
So
I
think,
if,
if
you
guys
go
with
that,
I
think
that
that
will
really
alleviate
the
anxiety
and
and
fear
and
concern
that
people
have
so
yeah.
I
like
that
idea.
Good
job
guys,
thank
you.
I
Okay
ron,
bucheck
abra
trail
dearborn
heights.
President
I've
talked
to
like
around
my
house,
my
area
and
at
work,
etc
in
the
public
at
least
a
hundred
people.
They
want
the
golf.
I
mean
a
hundred
out
of
a
hundred
want
that
golf
course
to
say
a
golf
course
which
that's
what
we're
basically
talking
about,
if
there
you
could
put
something
simple
and
there's
like
between
the
fences,
must
be
a
golf
course
with
some
type
of
clubhouse
to
access
to
get
in
there
to
golf.
I
Nobody
cares
what
goes
on
the
outside
property.
If
it's
restaurant
swimming
pool,
you
know
tennis,
court,
etc.
You
know
you
know
restaurant,
but
you
know
it's
just
that
we
we,
the
people
elected
our
current
president
and
all
his
staff,
and
we
are
going
to
what
do
you
say,
give
him
or
I'll
say
him
his.
You
know
political
staff,
all
the
rights
to
do
what
for
us
and
we
don't
like
what
he's
doing
right:
five
dollar
gas.
So
whatever
you,
the
you
know,
counsel
comes
up
with
be
it.
I
A
If
I
may
interrupt
you
do
because,
on
anything
that
we
vote
on,
obviously
at
the
city
council,
you
have
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
speak
on
an
agenda
item
if
we're
gonna
be
voting
on
it
right.
Okay
and
you'll
have
an
opportunity
to
be
able
to
get
a
hold
of
your
council
members
to
give
them
your
info.
Of
course,.
I
All
right,
and
so
on
the
other
side
of
it.
What
is
the
actual
current
status
of
the
golf
course
like,
for
instance,
when
would
it
be
opening
or.
A
So
I
and
there
an
administration,
is
one
that's
working
on
that
directly
with
the
concessionaire
to
get
it
open
as
soon
as
possible,
but
there
as
soon
as
possible.
It's
obviously
when
it's
at
the
standards
good
enough
for
the
for
the
person,
that's
going
to
be
running
it
and
for
the
administration
slash
mayor
at
this
point.
As
I
speak
today,
it
is
not
in
condition
to
be
open.
I
can't
say.
I
A
Hopefully
we
can
get
this
contract
in
place
again.
I
I
can
tell
you
everybody's
on
board,
there's
nobody
that
I
know
of
on
the
city,
council
or
the
administration
or
the
mayor
or
any
of
the
department
heads
that
says:
let's
slow
this
down
as
much
as
possible.
Everybody
wants
this
thing
to
move
forward,
but
there's
a
lot
of
work
to
be
done,
whether
it's
contractually
legalese
and
physical
work,
cutting
the
grass,
etc,
etc.
Everybody's
on
board
everybody's
on
board
for
getting
this
thing
done,
and
it
will
be
done.
Can
I
give
you
a
date?
A
I
can't
and
honestly
I've
even
had
conversations
with
the
mayor
and
we've
had
conversations
with
the
person.
That's
going
to
be
running.
It
there's
still
a
lot
of
variables
involved,
but
it
can
be
done
as
soon
as
possible,
because
everybody's
focused
on
it
everyone
I
mean,
I
can't
think
of
one
person
that
says:
let's
slow
this
down
as
much
as
possible.
No
one
everybody's
on
board
to
get
this
done,
asap
right
and
we
understand
sympathize
and
get
where
the
residents
are
concerned
and
why
they're
concerned
I'm
just
as
concerned
right.
I
And
then,
as
far
as
what
we
had
that
wind
damage
there's
a
tree
on
light
lockdale,
I
think
it
is
an
amber
trail.
It
was
on
the
news
and
it's
probably
three
foot.
You
know
diameter.
I
When
is
that
going
to
be
actually
taken
care
of,
because
I
mean
people
come
from
livonia
everywhere
drive
through
there
and.
A
Can
you
do
me
a
favor?
Unfortunately,
our
dpw
director
is
is
left.
I
don't
know
if
he's
coming
back
in,
but
either
way
can
you
email,
the
chief
of
staff
or
myself
if
you'd
like
I'll,
be
more
than
happy
to
forward
that
to
the
dpw
director
and
have
him
look
into
that
for
you.
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir
glad.
C
Yeah
I
just
wanted
to
respond
as
as
to
a
charter
amendment,
I
would
recommend
again
saying
it's
going
to
be
that
the
golf
course
is
going
to
be
a
golf
course.
It's
going
to
be
a
golf
course,
no
matter
what
I
think,
that's
a
bad
idea
in
terms
of
a
charter
amendment
I
think,
what's
being
done
here,
because
we
won't
do
that
with
any
city
property.
We
might
change
you
know,
city
hall,
and
to
police
station
a
police
station
in
the
city
hall,
whatever
it
might
end
up
being.
C
A
A
A
Obviously,
when
that
resolution
is
finally
put
together,
all
of
us
as
a
body
will
a
vote
on
it
and
b
between
then
and
now
different
residents,
and
anybody
else
can
give
their
opinion
to
their
council
members
to
take
whatever
it
is
into
account.
So
right
it
was
his
opinion
and
I
appreciate
it.
Thank
you.
B
J
J
C
J
J
J
J
J
Understand
more,
I
understand
I'm
just
saying
there
is
no
comparison
between
us
and
who
the
people
who
go
to
the
country
club
in
dearborn.
That's
ten
thousand
dollars
membership
a
year
ask
and
see.
That
is
a
true
statement.
Okay
anyway,
I
just
hope
you
do
not
be
part
of
something
illegal.
That's
all
I'm
going
to
say!
Thank
you.
Thank
you,
sir.
C
C
If
I
don't
address
something,
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
that
something
is
illegal
it.
What
sometimes
I
have
to
do
when
it
comes
to
answering
questions
is
I
have
to
be
concerned
that
my
answers
could
potentially
end
up
being
used
in
some
way?
That's
going
to
end
up
harming
the
city
so
many
times.
I
have
to
do
things
to
protect
privilege
and
I
have
to
protect
confidentiality
and
secrets
for
a
client
in
order
to
make
sure
that
that
client
is
protected,
and
the
client
in
this
case
is
the
city.
C
So
I'm
not
sure
what
exactly
mr
abdul
hawk
was
indicating
in
this
situation,
but
there's
nothing.
That's
been
done
illegally
by
me
in
this
situation,
and
what
I
have
to
do
is
I
have
to
be
careful
to
make
sure
that
nothing
that
I
say
can
potentially
harm
the
city.
So
that's
that's
the
basis
for
what
I've
done,
because
sometimes
I
have
to
come
out
and
say
some
things.
But
if
it's
not
clear
that
I'm
being
directed
to
give
that
information,
then
I
have
to
end
up
basically
being
careful
not
to
say
something.
C
Then
I'd
give
that
or,
for
example,
we
ended
up
having
an
issue
come
up
about
the
e-course
creek
and
the
council
chair
at
that
time
told
me
to
go
ahead
and
say
something
which
I
had
never
said,
but
I
knew
well
going
back
decades
with
regard
to
that
information,
I
pointed
it
out
then
I'll
end
up
saying
it,
but
I
have
to
be
careful
about
what
I
end
up
saying,
because
it
can
have
ramifications
for
the
city
and
its
residents.
Okay,.
D
J
I'm
not
accusing
mr
mayatki
of
anything
illegal.
I
know
for
a
long
time
you
never
done
anything
to
harm
the
city,
and
I
repeat
that,
and
I
respect
that
in
you,
but
when
you're
asked
I
would
appreciate
straight
answers.
Since
you
are
the
prosecutor
of
the
city,
you
should
investigate
if
something
was
done
illegally
against
allah.
That's
all
I'm
asking!
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
D
A
D
A
No
problem,
but
if
you
don't
mind,
please
stay,
of
course
street
city
and
then
name
and
then,
if
you're
speaking
as
a
city
clerk
or
as
a
resident.
H
F
A
A
Okay
with
nobody
else
in
the
audience
we
have
somebody
on
zoom,
mr
hussein,
alhaj.
Please
go
ahead,
sir.
Please
stay
name
city
street.