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From YouTube: Dearborn Heights Study Session (1) - 6/21/22
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The Dearborn Heights Study Session regarding the Tree Ordinance taking place Tuesday, June 21st 2022 in the Dearborn Heights Council Chambers and via Zoom.
A
All
right
good
evening,
ladies
and
gentlemen,
today's
5
30
p.m
june,
21st
tuesday,
and
we
have
three
back-to-back
study
sessions
with
the
first
one
being
on
our
tree.
Ordinance
we'll
be
talking
with
our
corporation
counselor
a
little
bit
with
our
dpw
director
and
even
different
members
of
the
audience.
A
A
So
I
felt
that
we
would
do
a
study
session,
so
we
could
get
some
clarification
from
administration
in
regards
to
this
for
our
residents
and
also
give
the
opportunity
for
some
of
the
council
members
to
put
in
some
input
and
then
possibly
make
some
changes
in
our
ordinance.
So
this
particular
one
is
just
a
study
session.
There
will
be
no
voting
on
us,
but
I
want
to
go
ahead
and
get
it
started.
He's
got
a
question.
Who's
got
a
question.
I'm
sorry
yeah.
B
C
C
D
He's
going
to
basically,
as
I've
stated
before,
if
someone
is
a
member
of
the
public
body,
namely
one
of
the
council
members,
they
should
be
physically
present
because
zoom
doesn't
recognize
or
I'm
sorry.
The
open
meetings
act
does
not
recognize
participation
by
zoom
for
members
of
the
public
body,
except
if
it's
military
service.
D
A
C
D
F
D
C
A
D
C
A
E
D
The
actual
rule
is
that
members
of
the
public
body
have
to
end
up
being
present
during
any
any
meeting.
That's
the
open
meetings
act
requirement
or
in
person.
Yes,
so
what
we're
doing
in
terms
of
hybrid
meetings
is
something
that
we've
decided
to
do
in
order
to
allow
other
people
to
potentially
participate,
or
you
know
be
involved
in
a
meeting
who
are
not
members
of
the
public
body.
D
All
the
council.
Members
are
members
of
the
public
body
and
they
have
to
be
here
exactly
so.
That's
that's
where
you
come
into
the
difficulty.
The
difficulty
is,
is
that
essentially,
what
you're
saying
is
well,
this
is
the
rule
and
in
absence
of
the
rule,
then
maybe
everyone
could
end
up
participating
who's,
a
member
of
the
public
body
by
zoom,
but
right
now
everyone
who's,
a
member
of
the
public
body.
Who's
supposed
to
be
participating
has
to
participate
in
person
and
that's
the
only
way
they
can
end
up
showing
up.
A
C
A
All
right
so
at
this
particular
point
gary.
If
you
don't
mind,
if
you
could
just
give
us
just
a
general
synopsis
in
regards
to
the
tree,
ordinance
that
we
have
in
place
today
and
then
we're
going
to
have
some
of
the
council
members
talk
about
the
concerns
that
they've
had
with
the
tree
ordinance
and
then
I'm
going
to
allow
our
dpw
director
to
give
his
input
and
maybe
even
mariana
with
the
chief
of
staff.
Maybe
possibly
she
could
give
her
input
if
she'd
like
our
mayor,
is
at
a
meeting
right
now.
A
D
I
remember
when
the
ordinance
was
adopted
there
were.
There
were
two
different
schools
of
thought.
There
were
some
people
who
are
like
you
should
be
able
to
cut
down
any
tree.
That's
on
your
property,
except
maybe
that's
stuff-
that
the
trees
that
are
in
the
boulevard
or
city
right
of
way,
because
it's
a
city
right
of
way-
and
we
should
end
up
having
control
over
that.
We
do
have
control
over
that.
But
if
you
otherwise
want
to
take
down
a
tree,
you
should
be
able
to
take
down
a
tree.
D
And
then
there
were
other
people
who
were
on
the
council.
Who
said
no.
We
need
trees
because
otherwise
we're
going
to
get
flooded
out
because
trees
absorb
a
lot
of
water
and
we
have
problems
with
flooding
both
in
the
south
end
of
the
city
and
the
north
end
of
the
city
and
getting
rid
of
all
the
trees
is
going
to
potentially
end
up
leading
to
increased
flooding.
D
A
What
have
you
is
concerned?
But
for
whatever
reason,
if
a
resident
wants
to
take
out
a
tree
at
their
own
expense,
because
a
lot
of
times
where
we're
because
of
the
lack
of
man
or
woman
power,
sometimes
and
sometimes
equipment,
dpw
can't,
you
know
sometimes
they're
three
four
years
away
or
two
years
whatever
it
is
multiple
years
away
from
being
able
to
do
it.
A
But
let's
say
it's
a
healthy
tree
and
a
resident
wants
to
take
out
a
healthy
tree
and
put
in
a
replacement
tree
that
they
feels
you
know,
makes
their
home
look
more
beautiful.
They're
just
something
nicer:
why
can't
they
do
something
like
that?
Why
is
that
not
allowed
we're
not
talking
about
just
at
their
own
expense?
That's
a
whole
another
conversation,
but
I'm
talking
about
asking
for
it
to
be
taken
out
well,
actually
to
help
the
tree.
F
F
H
F
Up
and
down
hess-
and
I
go
up
and
down
on
like
merrick
street,
and
I
see
these
these
trees
that
are
big
bulgy
and
the
branches
are
falling
and
they're
breaking
they're
falling
on
people's
cars.
We
don't
have
the
manpower
or
woman
power
to
be
able
to
bring
to
bring
these
trees
down,
but
I
could
you
know
if
I've
told
residents
eventually,
there
needs
to
be
some
type
of
ordinance
where
the
city
will
allow
you
to
pull
a
permit.
F
Okay,
remove
the
tree
by
an
actual
tree
company.
What
within
say
three
months:
you
must
have
that
trunk
removed
and
replaced
with
a
new
tree.
Now
I
didn't
say
that
you're
allowed
to,
but
that's
something
to
that
degree,
which
would
make
sense
to
a
lot
of
residents
with
either
the
city
can
try
to
take
it
down.
If
we
can
afford
to
get
to
it
and
if
not,
then
let
the
homeowner
go
out
there,
take
it
down
and
replace
it
with
a
new
tree
as
long
as
they're
putting
a
tree
within
three
months.
D
Yeah,
I
I
think
the
difficulty
with
that
is
that
replacing
a
tree,
especially
like
landmark
trees,
is
really
not
something
that
you
can
easily
do
at
least
that's
the
way.
I
understand
it
and
that's
the
way
it
was
presented
when
this
originally
came
up
years
ago.
You
have
like
a
a
really
old
tree.
It
really
absorbs
a
lot
of
water.
D
Well,
if
they're
dying,
then
potentially
we
could
end
up
revisiting
that,
but
then
that
or
or
visiting
revisiting
that,
but
I
think
I
think
that
has
sometimes
been
an
issue
where
people
have
actually
killed
their
trees
in
order
to
basically
be
able
to
have
them
subject
to
removal
they've,
you
know
they've
girdled
them.
They
basically
have
ended
up
stripping.
All
the
bark
on
all
around
we've
had
I'd,
say
probably
at
least
two
times
I
specifically
remember
being
involved
in
those
situations
over
the
years.
F
D
To
the
city
right,
I
I
think
the
issue
becomes
then
that,
if
they're
in
the
city
right
of
way,
I
think
we
do
have.
I
don't
think
that
the
sixth
circuit
decision
ends
up
actually
altering
that
I
think
we
have
as
a
city
a
constant
state
constitutional
right
to
end
up
controlling
our
right
of
ways.
So
I
think
that
it
it's
it's
something
that
we
can
really
regulate,
but
we
could
change
the
ordinance
under
those
circumstances
to
allow
for
private
removal.
D
D
Exactly
but
it
would
also
have
to
end
up
being
considered
by
an
arborist.
I
believe
we
still
have
an
arborist,
at
least
when
mr
zimmer
was
around.
I
know
we
had
an
arborist
that
we
relied
on.
Who
would
come
out
and
say
no,
that
tree
is
structurally
sound
or
that
structure
that
that
tree
is
really
dead
or
that
tree
is
really
a
danger
and
they
would
make
the
professional
assessment
with
regard
to
that.
So
the
council,
I
believe,
would
end
up
having
the
ability
to
end
up
saying
yeah.
D
A
Body
there's
also
cases.
I
get
a
lot
of
cases
where
I'm
contacted
where
they
can't
get
dpw
out
to
approve
taking
out
this
particular
treaty,
because
it's
technically
quote
healthy,
but
there's
a
lot
of
branches
that
have
sprouted
and
then
they
start
lifting
the
sidewalk
and
people.
Just
don't
like
you
know
they
don't
like
the
aesthetics.
They've
got
their
house
all
done
up
very
nicely,
but
then
you
got
a
tree
that
has
a
lot
of
branches
and
are
lifting
the
sidewalk
up
or
or
falling
out
from
the
top.
A
I
mean
I
I
actually
might
just
myself
alone.
I've
probably
gotten
about
the
last
probably
about
30
days,
probably
about
eight
or
ten
emails
from
different
residents,
have
concerns
about
trees
that
they
want
to
take
out.
So
the
question
is:
if
we
decide
as
a
body
to
go
in
that
direction,
where
we
would
allow
residents
to
take
out
a
tree
even
if
it's
healthy
so
long
as
they
replace
it
with
a
tree
approved
by
the
city,
is
that
something
that
can
be
done?
And
maybe
we'd
have
to
speak
in
the
body?
Well,.
D
Again,
we're
we're
saying
in
in
the
city
the
boulevard,
the
city
right
now,
I'm
talking
about
everything
the
easement
part
would
be
used
between
the
sidewalk
and
the
street.
Yes,
my
sense,
I
would
have
to
actually
really
evaluate
that
there
are
two
different
tests
having
to
do
with
this
unconditional
or
this
unconstitutional
conditions
being
imposed.
D
D
Were
you
know
that
there
was
some
offsetting
value
in
terms
of
them
being
taken
out,
so
I
would
have
to
evaluate
that.
I
think
you
know
it
would
be
something
that
if,
if
that's
where
the
direction
the
body
wants
to
take,
I
could
look
into
that
and
see
how
we
can
do
that
and
make
sure
that
it's
going
to
conform
to
to
this
latest
decision.
E
E
You
know
want,
and
then
corporation
council
tell
us
what's
available
within
the
bounds
of
the
law,
and
I
I
agree
with
them
that
I
mean
everyone
would
want.
If
you
have
a
tree,
let's
say
the
tree
is:
knocking
the
sidewalk
up,
be
able
to
remove
that
tree
at
your
expense,
so
it
doesn't
damage
the
sidewalk.
A
A
I
don't
know
how
many
there
is.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
say
it,
but
I
I,
as
I
understood
it,
was
a
year
plus.
Is
that
correct,
yeah?
Okay,
so
if
a
resident
either
buys
a
home
or
is
in
a
home
and
they've
got
a
tree
that
they
just
don't
like
the
looks
of
it,
they
want
to
put
something
nicer
in
the
easement.
My
personal
viewpoint
is
they
should
be
able
to
do
that.
Councilman.
That's
my.
A
A
What
about
the
number
director
that
need
to
be
looked
at
so,
in
other
words,
if
a
resident
put
in
a
request
to
have
you
go
check
out
a
tree
to
see
if
they
can
remove
it?
How
big
of
a
backlog
on
that
roughly?
If
you
know
we're
pretty
good,
I
mean
within
the
week,
okay,
so
that
one
you're
fine
on
yeah,
okay,
okay,
so
so
my
my
thoughts
are
good.
F
Somebody's
got
a
tree
in
their
backyard
and
it's
massive
and
I'll
give
an
example.
As
my
sisters
were
struck
and
half
of
it
fell
on
the
neighbor's
garage
and
the
other
half
fell
on
her
property
right,
but
then
there's
this
whole
other
half,
that's
just
hanging
up
there
on
a
limb.
That's
eventually
gonna
fall
down.
You
know
you
know,
but
but
that
only
happened,
because
that
tree
was
so
massive
and
it
was
so
big
mind
you.
I
love
trees
me
personally,
I'm
not
cutting
the
trees
out
of
my
backyard.
F
F
D
Is
is
the
real
issue
here
and
that's
where
I
mean
if
a
tree
is
clearly
dead
or
a
danger,
then
I
mean
we
could
end
up
addressing
that
and
I
believe
that
there
would
be
discretion
in
the
and
the
dpw
to
end
up
addressing
that
type
of
an
issue.
But
if
the
tree
is
still
sound
right
now,
the
trees
are
not
supposed
to
end
up
being
removed.
D
Unless
there's
going
to
be
a
replacement
tree
and
even
then
they're
not
supposed
to
be
removed.
In
general,
I
mean
if
someone
wanted
to
end
up
saying
well,
I
want
to
remove
it
and
then
again
we
get
into
this
whole
issue.
The
whole
idea
of
you
have
a
constitutional
right
potentially
to
end
up
getting
a
permit
to
say,
develop
your
property,
but
now
we're
going
to
end
up
making
a
condition
on
you
having
to
pay
into
some
tree
fund.
D
A
I
I
so
I'm
gonna
stay
on
end
and
tom
munsell
has
something
to
say
personally,
I'm
okay
with
that,
because
to
me,
if
somebody
purchases
a
home
and
it's
got
trees
already
in
the
backyard,
whether
it's
three,
four
five
or
eight
of
them
and
I've
seen
all
kinds
in
my
business
and-
and
they
personally
believe
they
want
their
backyard.
Just
nice
clean
grass
and
some
landscaping-
they
don't
want
any
trees
in
the
backyard
to
me.
A
They
should
not
be
forced
to
have
those
trees
like
in
my
my
backyard,
for
example,
when
my
home
was
built
on
the
southern
they
had
taken
out
most
of
the
trees,
so
they
could
build
a
home,
but
when
they
built
my
home,
my
backyard
had
no
trees,
but
I
wanted
some
trees,
so
I
put
arborvities
and
I
think
it's
like
20
or
30
of
them
in
the
back
for
privacy.
Okay,
that's
what
I
like.
I
don't
want
trees
that
have
been
there
for
a
hundred
years.
A
D
A
H
A
I
D
Well,
the
tree
ordinance
actually
applies
to
to
both
it's
actually
a
pretty
expansive
ordinance
and
that's
why,
when
the
council
chair
was
saying
something
to
the
effect
of
you
know
giving
a
summary
of
it,
it's
quite
a
few
sections,
but
actually
one
section
section:
3329
permits
for
tree
plantings,
care
removal.
The
first
sentence
says
the
public
service
administrator,
which
is
actually
the
technical
name
under
the
charter
for
the
dpw
director.
D
The
public
service
administrator
shall
have
control
over
all
trees
located
within
the
streets
right
of
way
and
parks
in
the
city
and
the
planting
care
and
removal
thereof,
subject
to
the
regulations
can
contained
in
this
chapter,
so
it
it
goes
beyond
simply
on
private
property
or
public
property.
It's
pretty
much
well.
D
H
I
Everybody
was
complaining
about
them
and
then
they
said
well,
we
got
to
do
something
about
it
in
a
matter
of
a
couple
months
that
summer,
four
or
five
different
home
a
lot
of
property
owners
did
the
same
thing
which,
which
you
know
provoked
us
or
you
know,
got
us
going
on
this
tree
organs.
That's
and
it
was
a
kind
of.
I
D
I
I
You
know
dearborn
heights
is
tree
city,
we
call
ourselves
tree
city.
I
just
think
we
have
a
designation
from
the
federal
government
or
something
as
being
a
tree
city.
So
we
can't
say
we
can't
cut
down
any
trees,
but
we
have
to
have
you
know
you
got
to
have
a
tree
here
and
there
it's
good
good
for
air
quality,
it's
good
for
anti-erosion
techniques.
You
know
it's,
they
got
a
lot
of
benefits.
F
F
F
You
know,
or
unless
it
sits
in
your
backyard,
correct
if
somebody
wants
to
take
off
the
tree
in
their
backyard
and
have
an
open
field
in
their
backyard,
to
be
able
to
put
a
swimming
pool
or
a
place
for
their
kids.
I
mean
me
personally,
I'm
not
going
to
take
down
the
tree
in
my
backyard.
I
like
it,
I
planted
it,
but
you
know
if
somebody
else
has
a
different
preference
for
your.
B
D
D
A
So
we
can't
vote
right
now,
obviously
because
it's
a
study
session,
but
if
you
could
put
something
tweak
their
ordinance
and
then
obviously
would
vote
at
a
council
meeting
eventually,
but
before
you
do.
Let's
just
make
sure,
let's
see
if
anybody
from
I'm
gonna
have
dpw
director.
If
you
don't
mind,
if
you
could
just
give
us
a
word
or
two.
A
Okay,
okay,
so
dpw
director
robert
conrad.
I
just
want
to
get
his.
I
asked
him
to
be
here
if
he
could
be
here
today
to
give
us
his
input.
As
far
as
from
the
logistics
parks,
it
sounds
easy
to
say:
have
them
take
down
trees
cut
out
this
tree
cut
out
that
tree,
but
obviously
we
got
to
make
sure
we
have
enough
infrastructure
in
place
to
be
able
to
do
that.
J
Right
so
I
mean
right
now:
if
it's
a
healthy
tree,
you
know
our
plan
is
to
leave
it.
I
mean
a
good
healthy
tree.
Can
you
know?
Yes
do
sidewalk
damage,
but
a
good
contractor,
you
know
doing
the
sidewalk
replacement
you
know
should
be
able
to
keep
that
tree
alive.
For
you
know
its
natural
course
and
provide
you
know
a
good
sidewalk
for
15
to
20
years
if
they
remove
the
roots
when
they
do
the
sidewalk.
J
So
I
mean
you
know
those
you
know
just
because
a
tree
lifted
a
sidewalk
once
if
the
repair
and
maintenance
is
done
to
the
sidewalk
correctly.
You
know
you
shouldn't
expect
to
have
a
problem
for
several
years.
You
know
I'm
in
several
I
mean
you
know,
15
20
years
before
the
tree
roots
get
big
enough
to
lift
that
sidewalk
again,
because,
if
they're
eliminated,
you
know
it's
going
to
take
them
a
long
time
to
grow
back
to
the
point
where
they
cause
the
damage
they
did.
J
J
J
We
don't
allow
people
to
plant,
you
know
so
I
mean
if,
if
we
were
going
to
make
any
modifications
where
we
would
allow
a
resident
to
remove
a
tree
at
their
cost,
I
think
we
would
limit
it
to
the
trees
that
are
on
our
do
not
plant
list.
You
know
I
guess
to
give
you
example:
a
norway,
maple
weeping,
willow
box,
elder
sycamore.
J
Right
so
I
mean
you
know
those
trees
on
our
do
not
plant
list.
I
mean,
I
think
those
could
be
considered,
for
you
know
allowing
people
to
remove
those
trees,
because
you
know
we've
deemed.
We
don't
want
them
either,
but
I
mean
we
also
don't
have
the
ability
to
take
down
every
one
of
those
trees
that
we
don't
want
in
our
right
over
rights
away,
because
you
know
it's
a
funding
issue
I
mean,
and
I
don't
think
we
want
to
raise
people's
taxes
so
that
we
can
take
down
more
trees.
J
Yeah,
I
think
we,
you
know
we'd
like
to
see
a
replacement
tree
and
we
do
allow
people
to
take
down
healthy
trees.
You
know
if
you
come
in
and
apply
for
a
permit
if
you're
doing
construction
you're
putting
in
you
know
a
circular
driveway
in
the
trees.
In
a
way,
we
would
allow
you
to
take
that
tree
down
again.
You'd
have
to
get
the
permit.
You'd
have
to
put
a
replacement
tree
in
you
know,
but
I
mean
this.
J
You
know
the
ordinance
says
that
our
discretion,
you
know,
will
allow
you
to
take
a
tree
down.
It
doesn't
say
that
you
can't
take
a
healthy
tree
down.
It
says
at
our
discretion
and
typically
our
discretion
is
you
know
if
it's
a
healthy
tree,
but
if
you
know
someone
can
show
good
cause
as
to
why
it
should
come
out.
I
mean
we
do
allow
them
to
come
out,
but.
A
But
see
this
is
where
I
come
from,
where
I'm
coming
from.
If
it's
a
taste
thing
you
know,
you
have
hypothetically
a
maple
in
front
of
your
home
or
my
home.
You
know
I'm
buying,
I
buy
a
home
if
I've
got
a
maple
tree
in
front
of
it,
but
I
don't
want
a
maple
tree.
I
want
some,
whatever
other
type,
that's
allowed.
J
So
you
know
the
tree
permit
starts
with
a
minimum
of
65
dollars,
so
you
know
if
you're
a
developer,
or
you
have
a
very
large
lot
and
you're,
taking
down
several
trees
that
aren't
necessarily
in
the
right
subway
but
they're
out
on
your
own
property,
and
you
need
to
remove
these
houses
these
trees
to
enlarge
the
footprint
of
your
house
or
you
know,
put
in
a
different.
You
know
a
detached
garage
or
something
like
that.
Then
that
permit
you
know
the
the
the
deep
the
the
supervisory
staff
would
go
out.
J
They'd
evaluate
the
trees
and
you
know
based
on
their
size,
and
you
know
other
factors
that
they
take
in
they
say.
Well,
you
know,
they'll
assign
a
value
to
it
and
that
money
would
go
into
the
tree
fund.
That
tree
fund
is
used
to
put
trees
back
in
the
right.
It's
a
way
where
we've
removed
trees
that
were
diseased,
dead
and
dying,
and
you
know
those
residents
that
you
know
not.
J
J
J
F
J
F
That's,
I
think,
that's
what
the
residents
are
looking
for,
like
I'm
gonna,
be
honest
with
you,
my
my
house,
on
where
I
live
right
now
it
looks
like
there
was
a
new
tree
planted.
Maybe
four
years
ago,
five
years
ago,
it's
this
little
tree,
it's
growing
it's
starting
to
grow
big,
but
it's
beautiful,
my
neighbor's.
She
looks
like
it's
been
there
for
35
years.
The
trunk
is
huge,
it's
falling
apart.
You
know
it's
constantly
falling
from
the
top
and
she
constantly
tells
me
her
name
is
pam.
J
Mean
the
only
thing
I
mean
you
know
a
lot
of
the
other
cities
that
have
these
same
ordinances
that
are
very
similar
to
ours
and
there's
been
a
few
communities
recently.
I
think
you
know
gary
mentioned
canton.
I
think
one
of
the
plymouths
also
you
know,
adopted
a
a
tree
ordinance
and,
and
there
are
concerns
about
people
removing
too
many
trees
or
removing
trees.
You
know
that
are
a
benefit
and
you
know
to
keep
a
community
healthy
and
you
know
provide
shade,
keep
it
cool.
You
know,
convert
co2
to
oxygen.
J
You
know
those
type
of
things,
but
you
know
you
know
our
our
heritage
tree
starts
at
at
24
inches.
You
know,
base
height
diameter,
so
I
mean
that
might
be
a
consideration.
If
you
are
going
to
allow
somebody
to
you
know,
take
out
a
tree
of
their
own,
you
know:
do
you
take
into
consideration
those?
You
know
what
are
getting
close
to
historic
trees
or,
or
you
know,
heritage
trees
landmark
trees,
those
type
of
things
or
you
know.
Do
you
modify
that
number
to
be
something
different?
D
So
you
guys
are
kind
of
like
talking
a
little
more
general.
What
the
court
is
saying
is
you
have
to
really
actually
think
about
it
and
support
whatever
you
come
up
with,
and
that's
the
difficulty
that
we
have
with
our
ordinance
and
that's
the
difficulty
with
all
these
other
communities
that
have
had
these
similar
ordinances
that
essentially,
there
really
was
no
individualized
determination
about
what
was
required
to
end
up
making
up
for
whatever
it
was
the
environmental
impacts,
because
no
one
really
quantified
them,
and
they
just
said.
D
A
One
of
the
things
I
spoke
with
the
chief
staff
about,
as
I
told
her,
this
is
not
an
end-all,
this
particular
meeting.
This
is
just
a
starting
point,
so
we
can
start
having
a
conversation
and
give
you
some
direction
until
we
get
to
a
point
where
we
vote
on
something
and
agree
on
something
all
together,
yeah
go
ahead,
councilman
and
then
chief
steps.
We
want
to
say
something
else:
okay,
good
councilman,.
E
Thank
you
and
I
think,
we're
all
in
agreement
that
if
somebody
owns
the
property,
I
heard
what
the
dpw
director
said
about
the
in
all
the
benefits
of
a
tree.
But
if
it's
your
property,
it's
your
property.
One
tree
is
not
going
to
put
that
much
more
seal
oxygen
in
the
air
or
or,
and
there's
been
a
lot
of
situations
over
the
years
where
there's
a
tree
in
front
of
somebody's
house.
E
E
Also,
I
don't
know
how,
if
the,
if
the
roots
of
the
tree,
if
the
tree
is
that
big,
that
it's
popping
the
sidewalk
up,
that
the
somebody
installing
the
cement
can
cut
the
roots
that
deeply
that
it's
it's
not
going
to
prevent
further
damage
to
the
sidewalk
and
that's
a
real
problem
all
over
the
city.
So
I
think,
having
said
all
that,
I
think
we're
all
in
agreement
that
we
wanted
an
ordinance
permissible
under
the
law
that
says
trees
on
your
property,
including
the
easement.
E
G
E
Yeah
you
get
a
permit
and
that
you
have
to
replace
it
or
pay
another
tree
fund
or
whatever,
but
you
want
to
be
able
to
remove
that
tree
because
right
people
will
call
there
there's
a
resident
on
my
block.
He's
been
calling
for
20
some
years
about
a
big
limb
hanging.
He
wants
to
be
able
to
get
that
tree
trimmed
and
it's
a
large
tree.
It's
a
sycamore.
A
E
A
Agree
are
we
so
obviously
we
can't
vote
but
gary
if
you
could
put
something
together
in
regards
to
what
we've
been
referencing
here,
we'd
really
appreciate
it
and
of
course,
of
course,
eventually
we
would
vote
on
it
during
a
council
meeting.
But
that's
all
we
had
in
regards
to
this
next
up
in
the
audience
council.
I
K
I
A
A
F
D
D
If
you
replace
it
with
another
tree,
then
your
difficulty
is
the
sixth
circuit's
decision
was,
if
you
are
making
it
a
condition
to
get
the
permit
that
you
have
to
end
up
doing
this,
that's
where
the
problem
comes
in,
so
I
would
see
that
as
more
of
an
issue
with
what
councilman
wenzel
has
ended
up,
saying
that
that
will
be
more
of
an
issue
if
we
have
a
requirement
that
you
take
it
out
of
your
own
private
property.
That's
not
part
of
the
city
right
of
way.
D
D
Yeah
I
plan
to
what
I've
got
right
now
is
in
city
right
away,
provide
for
removal
by
property
owner.
If
a
property
owner
pays
for
it
b,
property
owner,
does
it
pursuant
to
permit
and
sound
requirements
or
just
generally,
if
it's
dead
or
diseased
and
away,
and
if
they
do
some
mitigation
effort,
and
then
I
have
questionable
ray
replacement
tree
so
I'll
have
to
look
into
that,
and
then
I
have
for
in
property
owner's
yard,
not
in
city
right
away.
Then
the
property
owner
can
just
remove
it.
That's
that's
what
up
my
understanding.
A
A
K
K
And
I
don't
feel
that
I
should
have
to
pay
to
take
the
tree
down.
It's
your
city,
tree
they're,
a
nuisance
and
they're
a
danger
I've
sent
mo.
I
don't
know
how
many
videos
I
have
sent.
You
were
healthy
branches
that
you
call
healthy
from
the
tree.
Just
boom
fall,
so
I
can't
park
my
car
in
front
of
the
street
and
then
I
have
a
neighbor
behind
me
who
has
five
oak
trees,
which
has
become
a
problem
because
of
the
power
lines
behind
me.
K
I
can't
get
a
private
company
to
come
out
and
trim
them
out
of
my
yard
they're
about
15
feet
into
my
yard.
They
won't
come
out
because
they
hang
way
above
the
dte
lines.
So
they
said
it's
a
dte
issue.
I
call
dte,
they
won't
trim
the
tree
because
they
say
it's
not
hitting
the
lines.
So
now
I
have
five
oak
trees
behind
me
and
I
can't
park
by
it's
getting
the
point
where
I'm
going
to
park
my
car
in
my
driveway
because
they
drop
nuts
and
then
my
car's
gonna
have
dings
all
in
it.
K
K
A
B
A
A
See
to
me:
okay,
well,
okay,
so
there's
two
sides
to
this
yeah
to
me:
you
should
have
a
right
to
be
able
to
take
it
out
at
your
own.
That's
for
me
personally
speaking
at
your
own
expense,
but
you're,
saying
no,
that's
a
tree!
That's
cause
causing
havoc
and
therefore
the
city
should
possibly
take
it
out.
K
K
K
Yeah
they've
been
out
several
times
and
it's
not
it's
not
their
issue,
and
I
don't
know
20
years
ago,
when
I
moved
in
22
years
ago
they
had
a
policy
in
place
and
they
had
a
private
company.
I
believe
I
can't
remember
that
they
were
allowed
to
take
out
trees
and
it
was
at
a
considerable
lower
rate,
but
you
had
to
replace
another
with
another
tree,
because
my
brother
did
that
at
his
house.
K
A
K
B
Wayne
county
michigan,
just
a
suggestion,
can
somebody
look
into
michigan
state
forestry
division.
They've
got
a
lot
of
programs
out
there.
Maybe
they've
got
some
grant
monies
or
something
that
they
can.
We
can
use
to
take
care
of
some
of
these
tree
issues
that
you
know
people
are
having
in
their
front
yards,
but
also
maybe
a
program
to
look
at
the
overall
trees
that
are
suggested
for
being
planted
in
the
city
or
something
like
that
too.
A
A
L
If
we
could
get
an
environmental
group
or
a
non-profit
or
msu,
and
the
extension
there
to
come
in
and
look
at
what
the
recommended
amount
of
tree
cover
for
our
city
would
be
because
then
the
dpw
could
say:
okay,
we
have
this
percentage.
That
is
the
ideal
percentage
for
our
city
in
terms
of
environmental.
L
Like
goodness,
I
don't
can't
think
of
the
right
word,
but
then
that
way,
it's
better
for
the
earth,
because
we've
got
this
whole
climate
change
thing
going
on,
and
while
I
understand
that
somebody
might
prefer
us
on
your
backyard,
especially
maybe
a
gardener
too
much
sun
is
a
really
bad
thing
in
terms
of
temperature.
I
would
not
want
to
have
my
neighbor
cut
down
their
giant
tree
in
the
backyard
and
all
of
a
sudden
have
my
air
conditioning
bill
go
through
the
roof,
because
now
my
home
is
20
degrees
warmer.
L
L
So
I'm
concerned
that,
if
kind
of
what
councilman
wenzel
said
that
if
we
leave
it
open
to
whoever
wants
to
cut
their
stuff
down
in
their
backyards,
we
could
end
up
with
that
and
your
job
as
legislators
is
not
just
to
look
at
the
current
problem,
but
how
the
effects
of
the
ordinance
could
continue
into
the
future
and
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
environmental
impact,
considering
everything
every
leading
scientist
is
saying.
So
please
please,
please
look
into
that.
Thank
you.
I
F
I
G
G
G
G
G
G
Is
it
a
fine
for
five
hundred
dollars?
It's
misdemeanor.
What
is
it
we
need
to
specify
the
penalty
for
these
things
and,
yes,
you
have
the
privacy,
you
have
the
right
to
cut
the
trees
in
your
backyard,
but
you
have
obligation
to
the
environment
in
this
city.
We
have
obligation
to
the
future
of
this
city
and
we
have
obligation
to
make
sure
that
we
live
in
good
environment.
A
M
M
M
I
A
J
So
it's
one
permit
per
property,
you
know.
So
if
you
have
want
to
take
down
several
trees
on
your
property,
still
just
one
permit
per
property,
but
the
cost
goes
up.
The
cost
goes
up
for
more
trees
right
and
maybe
that
you
know
the
size
of
the
trees.
The
cost
may
go
up
too.
The
most
common
tree
we
had
during
the
storm
was
the
maple
tree,
not
that
we
didn't
have
sycamore
trees.
J
You
know
drop
branches
and
things
like
that.
They
did,
but
only
one
sycamore
tree,
actually,
you
know,
came
down
or
broke
to
the
point
where
you
know
we're:
gonna
have
to
take
the
rest
of
it
down.
You
know
the
type
thing
and
you
know
so
I
mean
the
sycamore
is
a
very
strong
tea.
It's
just
a
nasty
tree,
so
I
mean
you
know
I
I
really
I
mean
don't
have
a
problem
with.
You
know
like
a
nuisance
type
clause
to
our
ordinance,
and
I
mean
if
we
want
to
consider
sidewalk
evil
a
nuisance.
J
I
you
know,
I'm
you
know,
I'm
not
an
authoritarian.
That's
you
know
says
no.
If
it's
a
live
tree,
it's
got
to
stay,
but
I
mean
I
do
believe.
Trees
have
a
value
to
each
community.
I
mean
we
have
a
considerable.
We
have
a
considerable
amount
of
trees
in
my
neighborhood
and
it
is
10
degrees
cooler
in
my
neighborhood
today
than
it
is
in
any
other
neighborhood
around
me,
and
you
know
I
I
value
the
trees
that
are
in
my
neighborhood,
but
you
know
everybody
has
their
own
opinion
in
their
own
rights,
but.
A
H
F
The
trees
have
grown
drastically
and
I
don't
know
if
they
were
being
well
maintained
10
years
ago
15
years
ago,
and
I'm
not
here
to
point
fingers
to
go
back
and
forth,
but
right
now
we're
dealing
with
an
issue.
The
issue
is
we're
a
year
and
a
half
out
on
fixing
trees
being
able
to
trim
them
and
remove
them
these.
F
These
are
the
facts,
and-
and
I
can
tell
you
I
I
swear-
people
are
calling
me
today
about
their
tree-
I'm
just
telling
them
we're
so
backed
up,
there's
nothing
that
can
be
done
for
you
this
year,
I'm
not
even
calling
to
to
dpw
I'm
just
telling
the
resident
you
have
to
hold
off
right
now.
We
we
don't
have
the
manpower,
a
man
or
woman
power
for
it
and
believe
it
or
not,
nothing's
going
to
be
happening
for
at
least
the
next
year,
a
year
and
a
half
up
to
your
tree.
F
A
J
K
A
A
So
if
somebody
I'm
talking
like
technically
it
starts
as
weeds
and
they
grow
into
bushes
and
then
they
grow
into
trees.
So
I
know
of
a
particular
resident.
That's
got
that
issue
and
they
called
me.
I
looked
at
it
and
I
told
my
contact
dpw,
but
I
said
I'm
not
sure
at
this
particular
point.
But
if
there's
house
a
it
has
a
what
starts
as
weed
and
becomes
a
bush
and
becomes
a
tree
kind
of
sort
of.
J
D
B
A
I
I
I
Because
I
know
that
I
know
back
in
the
60s
when
the
city
was
planting
trees,
they
were
all
the
maple
trees
and
we
did.
Somebody
did
some
came
into.
One
of
our
meetings
said
well.
These
trees
only
have
a
45
to
50-year
existence
where
they're
useful,
after
that
they
get
too
big
and
they
start
falling
over
the
tops
get
too
heavy
and
for
the
for
the
area
that
they're
planted
and
did
you.
J
J
Because
it's
you
know,
I
mean
there's
maples
that
you
know
can
grow
to
be
48
inches
in
diameter.
You
know,
you
know,
do
you,
you
know,
I
don't
know
if
anybody
can
can
make
that
you
know.
Weird
is
too
mature,
you
know
or
where
you
know
to
say
that
you
know
this.
This
tree
is
going
to
die
in
the
next
10
years,
so
we
should
take
it
out.
Anyways.
I
mean
you
know
that
that's
like
saying:
well,
nobody
should
live
over
the
age
of
65..
I
Well,
that
was
one
of
the
things
that
was
brought
up
and
we
had-
I
don't
know
tree
specialists
or
something
there's
a
lot
of
brought
to
our
attention
that
these
particular
the
white
maples.
I
think
they
are
the
ones
that
are
abundant
in
dearborn
heights.
They
their
existence,
their
usefulness
is
only
so
long.
Otherwise
they
get
they
get
too
big
at
the
top
they'll
tumble
they'll
fall
over
in
a
windstorm.
They
they
attract
ants.
J
I
H
Good
afternoon
council
chair
mariana,
hernandez
chief
of
staff
city
of
dearborn
heights.
I
just
wanted
to
clarify
if
you
do
have
a
tree
issue
with
your
neighbor
and
you
need
somebody
to
take
a
look
at
it.
You
need
to
call
dpw
our
ordinance
officers
are
the
ones
who
issue
the
tickets,
but
they
do
not
have
the
right
to
go
into
people's
backyards.