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From YouTube: 5/8/23 - Ecorse Creek Study Public Meeting
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5/8/2023 - Dearborn Heights, MI
Friends of the Detroit River and EGLE (Michigan Department of Environment, Great Lakes and Energy) present a Public Meeting for the Ecorse Creek Study held on Monday, May 8th inside the Dearborn Heights Council Chambers and on Zoom.
A
Well,
good
afternoon,
everyone
Thanks
for
coming
to
spend
some
time
with
us.
My
name
is
Mackenzie
walcek
and
I
serve
as
the
stewardship
director
With
Friends
of
the
Detroit
River.
We
also
have
galey
Peterson
here
with
us,
and
Sam
Walsh
will
also
be
joining
she's
directing
folks
into
into
the
room
right
now
before
we
get
started,
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
record
or
actually
Kaylee.
A
Do
you
mind
pressing
record
on
there
and
oh
perfect,
so
we'll
we'll
just
use
that
recording
that
works
out
well,
recording
in
progress
all
right,
perfect,
so
we'll
open
up,
zoom
and
make
sure
this
is
sharing.
A
Perfect
great
okay,
actually!
Well,
it
doesn't
show.
Oh
there
we
go
okay,
so
my
name
is
Mackenzie
walcek
again
and
we're
here
to
discuss
our
e-course
Creek
support
effort.
A
So,
for
the
past
decade
Friends
of
the
Detroit
River
has
been
engaged
with
the
alliance
of
Downriver
watersheds
and
we
have
been
working
with
them
to
develop
and
implement
the
e-course
Creek
watershed
management
plan.
More
recently,
we
started
to
engage
with
the
e-course
Creek
committee
to
help
identify
efforts
for
projects
that
can
help
Implement
goals
of
the
watershed
management
plan.
A
A
Okay,
the
Ecorse
Creek
Watershed
is
divided
into
three
drainage
subsids,
so
a
drainage
district
is
located
in
orange,
blue
and
yellow
on
the
screen
and
orange
is
the
North
Branch
of
the
Ecorse
River.
The
blue
is
an
enclosed
storm.
Sewer
called
LeBlanc
drain
and
in
yellow
is
the
area
of
land
that
flows
to
the
South
Branch
of
Ecorse
Creek
also
called
The
Sexton
kilfoil
drain.
There's
11
different
communities
that
partially
make
up
the
entire
Watershed
and
those
are
listed
on
the
left
hand
of
the
screen
and
for
our
scope
of
the
project.
A
A
And
this
is
due
to
the
percent
of
impervious
surfaces
in
the
area.
An
impervious
surface
is
a
hard
surface
that
is
impenetrable
for
when
rain
water
comes
down
and
hits
it,
it
is
not
able
to
absorb
into
the
ground.
So
instead
it
flows
to
a
nearby
storm
sewer
drain.
It
flows
into
a
parking
lot
into
a
road
and
so
on
and
so
forth,
and
so
having
more
impervious
surfaces,
directs
more
water
more
quickly
to
these
drainage
areas
that
were
originally
created
for
agriculture.
So
in
agriculture,
everything
is
pervious
around
it.
A
We
have
plants
and
we
have
pervious
surfaces
where,
when
the
rain
water
hits,
it
is
able
to
infiltrate
and
slow
down
and
absorb
in
before
it's
brought
to
the
drain,
and
so
having
a
watershed
that
was
created
for
drains,
but
is
now
in
a
heavily
urbanized
area.
Is
why
we're
starting
to
see
some
of
these
issues?
We
have
more
water,
making
its
way
more
quickly
to
these
drains
that
were
created
for
agricultural
runoff.
A
So
Studies
have
shown
that
in
a
watershed,
when
as
little
as
10
percent
of
the
Watershed
is
impervious
services
that
there's
already
signs
of
water
quality
degradation
when
this
area
reaches
more
than
30
percent,
the
Watershed
is
considered
severely
damaged
towards
nearby
waterways
and,
as
you
can
see,
for
Ecorse
Creek
back
in
2008,
we
were
already
over
41
impervious
surfaces
throughout
the
Watershed
and
with
the
projected
land
use
changes
by
semcog,
it
is
estimated
to
reach
almost
45
percent
by
the
year
2030..
A
And
so,
with
years
of
urbanization,
much
of
e-course
Creek's,
historical
flood,
plain
and
Wetland
areas
have
been
filled
in
and
lost.
The
high
amount
of
these
impervious
surfaces
and
inadequate
storm
water
infrastructure
have
worsened
flooding
in
the
Watershed
when
water
can't
soak
into
the
ground
it
flows
into
the
storm
drains,
taking
contaminants
and
pollutants
from
roadways
into
our
local
Creek.
A
The
storm
dreams
cannot
always
handle
the
quantity
of
water
received,
nor
the
combination
of
water
and
debris
that
often
makes
his
time
into
our
waterways,
and
this
can
lead
to
flooding.
In
addition
to
the
flooding
the
creek
is
subject
to
low
water
quality,
little
habitat
diversity
and
varying
levels
of
water
flow.
These
issues
impact
recreational
use
and
enjoyment
of
the
creek
by
its
residents,
as
well
as
limit
the
use
of
suitable
habitat
for
aquatic
organisms,
and
so
you
can
see
these
are
all
images
from
Ecorse
Creek.
A
When
storm
water
flows
across
roadways,
it
picks
up
debris,
and
that
is
all
stuff
that
can't
make
it
through
grates
and
can't
make
it
through
the
pipes
that
are
supposed
to
lead
out
to
the
the
creek.
So
we
have
not
only
the
issue
of
low
water
quality
more
quickly,
making
its
way
to
the
creek
during
stormwater
events,
which
creates
a
flashy
flow
which
increase,
which
increases
erosion
and
sedimentation,
and
then
once
that
flow
fast,
she
flow
is
gone
and
the
rain
has
subsided.
A
So
many
of
you
know,
there's
been
many
studies
and
reports
already
done
on
this,
so
we're
taking
that
information,
including
it
into
our
efforts,
but
also
making
sure
that
we're
meeting
with
the
city,
officials
and
the
community
residents
to
make
sure
that
anything
that
wasn't
encapsulated
in
those
studies
is
going
to
be
used
into
our
project.
Next,
we
compile
this
information
from
a
list
and
we'll
put
it
onto
a
map.
A
We
will
then
overlay
that
map
with
some
environmental
justice
scores
to
make
sure
underserved
communities
are
getting
the
appropriate
attention
that
they
need
and
then
next
steps.
We
will
prioritize
this
list
of
sites
based
on
the
most
relative
impact
that
they're
going
to
provide
to
the
communities
and
then
phase
three
will
be
seeking
funding
for
those
projects.
A
Some
example,
ideas
are
taken
from
the
e-course
Creek
committee's
Vision
plan
and
they're
on
the
screen
here.
These
are
just
depictions
of
what
some
of
these
projects
might
look
like
to
give
you
all
ideas
and
kind
of
stir
up
some
some
thoughts
on
what
you
might
like
to
see
with
the
creek
another
image
from
the
Ecorse
Creek
committee.
B
A
Plan
is
focusing
on
the
Down
River
Community,
so
the
the
most
Downstream
communities
and
there
is
efforts
to
connect
existing
parks
with
a
larger
Greenway
Corridor,
integrating
green
storm
water
infrastructure
connecting
this
to
the
Detroit
River,
and
this
is
something
that
we
would
like
to
see
throughout
the
entire
Watershed.
A
The
Committees
just
already
had
discussions
on
this,
so
they
have
kind
of
one
foot
in
the
door
on
this,
but
we
expect
to
see
many
similar
projects
like
this
pop
up,
all
throughout
the
Watershed,
from
the
headwaters
in
Romulus
to
the
Confluence,
with
the
Detroit
River
and
the
City
of
Ecorse,
and
so
that's
why
we're
here
today
we
want
to
hear
from
you.
We
want
to
know
what
issues
you've
been
experiencing
in
your
community.
A
A
A
And
lastly,
we
want
to
know:
are
there
specific
locations
in
the
Watershed
within
a
thousand
feet
of
the
drain
that
could
be
used
for
a
project?
This
doesn't
have
to
be
a
full
vacant
lot.
It
could
look
like
my
backyard,
a
portion
of
my
backyard.
It
could
also
look
like
an
over
utilized
or
an
underutilized
oversized
parking
lot.
Is
there
a
parking
lot,
you're,
always
driving
by
and
there's
maybe
four
cars
in
there
and
the
rest
of
the
parking
lot
is
never
utilized.
These
are
opportunities
that
we're
looking
for.
A
It
could
also
look
like
an
open
field
space
next
to
your
place
of
worship
and
an
underutilized
Park
that
maybe
could
use
some
Renovations
for
more
uses,
but
also
could
just
include
vacant
lands
again
within
a
thousand
feet
of
of
the
drain,
and
so
we
have
we'll
have
opportunities
here
in
a
little
bit
for
folks
to
voice
their
concerns.
Issues
wants
desires
out
loud.
We
also
have
all
this
information
available
online.
We
have
a
very
brief
Google
survey,
so
that's
accessible
by
the
QR
code
on
the
screen.
A
If
you
know
folks
that
maybe
were
able
to
make
it
tonight,
but
would
like
a
chance
to
continue
these
conversations
or
if
you're
really
engaged
and
want
to
come
visit
us
again.
We
have
one
more
public
hearing
session
and
that's
going
to
be
conducted
on
June
13th,
and
it
will
be
completely
virtual.
So
right
now
we're
we're
hybrid.
We
have
some
folks,
online
and
and
the
folks
in
person,
so
if
you're
interested,
we
also
have
that
opportunity.
A
And
lastly,
we
want
to
thank
our
funding
agency,
Eagles
nonpoint
source
program
for
giving
us
this
opportunity
to
engage
with
the
communities
and
make
sure
the
residents
voices
are
heard
on
these
matters,
as
well
as
the
numerous
communities,
stakeholders
and
interested
residents
that
have
already
provided
feedback
and
data
on
these
efforts
and
also
the
rest
of
our
FDR
team
and
with
that
I
can
take
any
questions
that
we'll
have
and
then,
after
I'm
done
taking
questions
we'll
give
an
opportunity
for
folks
to
grab
surveys
if
they
want
to
fill
them
out
here
today
on
paper,
or
we
can
open
up
four
listening
sessions
and
the
online
surveys.
A
C
But
for
some
crazy
reason,
all
this
and
I'm
just
going
to
say,
Dearborn
Heights,
has
been
tasked
on
fixing
this
when
we
don't
own
the
creek
that
Creek
belongs
to
the
county
and
I
may
be
cutting
off
my
nose,
despite
my
face
here
since
I'm,
a
councilman,
but
the
responsibility
to
Creek
really
is
the
county
and
and
and
it's
just
a
bad
situation,
that's
and
and
if
they
build
more
and
more
to
the
west
of
us
at
near
the
airport.
C
A
A
C
A
Can
just
comment
so
with
the
Decades
of
these
issues.
There
are
a
lot
of
feelings
about
e-course
Creek
and
yes,
the
the
e-course
drain
is
what
the
Wayne
County
would
be
calling
it
it
is
mandated
under
the
drain
county
code.
So
there
are
very
specific
ways
that
they
can
go
about
to
do
this
work.
Friends
of
the
Detroit
river
is
trying
to
work
with
Wayne
County
on
those
efforts,
so
ours
are
duplicated,
so
we
can't
also
go
in
and
do
the
normal
drain
maintenance
activities.
A
However,
we
can
identify
adjacent
lands
next
to
the
creek,
to
create
floodplain
habitat
that
will
be
able
to
bring
water
in
store
it
in
those
Heavy
Rain
events
and
in
a
purposeful
way
allow
the
water
to
infiltrate,
create
habitat,
also
creating
recreational
opportunities,
and
then
once
the
storm
has
rolled
away,
the
water
can
slowly
dissipate
back
into
the
creek
so
trying
to
reduce
the
amount
of
water-
that's
immediately
heading
into
there.
But
yes,
ultimately,
we
do
need
the
maintenance
funds
as
well.
Yes,
so.
D
My
name
is
Ali
deep,
I'm,
the
city
engineer,
so,
along
the
same
lines,
the
issue
with
the
creek
itself,
the
you
mentioned,
availability
of
lots
near
the
Ecorse
Creek,
which
can
be
used
as
a
detention
Basin
for
so
I,
haven't,
looked
at
that
issue
extensively
and
haven't
done
enough
studies
on
the
Ecorse
Creek
itself
to
try
to
find
the
root
cause
of
of
the
flooding
I'm,
not
a
believer
that
the
the
detention
is
is,
is
the
appropriate
way
to
go
for
two
reasons.
D
So,
in
addition
to
lack
of
Maintenance,
we
have
things
like
lack
of
of
debris,
removal,
the
We've
we've
surveyed,
our
portion,
the
city's
portion,
the
five
five
and
a
half
miles
within
the
city
of
Dearborn
Heights,
and
found
that,
yes,
even
before
we
get
into
the
water
quality
and
recreational
uses,
we
have
more
immediate
concerns
and
needs,
and
that
is
the
capacity
of
the
channel
to
to
carry
the
water
the
the
condition
of
the
piping,
our
drainage,
our
of
fault
structures.
D
You
showed
one
picture
of
an
outfall
structure,
but
I
can
share
many
more
that,
in
addition
to
debris
blockage,
the
structure
itself
is
almost
100
percent
in
sediment,
it's
buried,
so
it
is
not
allowing
for
drainage
to
take
place.
So
then
we
go
back
to
the
true
cause
of
that
and
and
yes,
I
agree
with
with
debris
and
and
roadway
debris
making
it
to
the
river.
But
if
you
go
to
the
channel
itself,
it
requires
Restoration
in
order
to
get
it
back
to
what
the
capacity
was
when
it
was
intended
to
drain
these
communities.
D
So,
in
addition
to
development
and
and
imperious
surfaces,
the
lack
of
capacity
in
the
channel
is
is
is
extremely
critical,
so
that
to
me
is
a
number
one
concern
before
we
talk
about.
You
know
creating
a
green
spaces
and
by
the
way
we
have
a
lot
of
spaces
that
can
be
used
for
that,
but
it
doesn't
do
me
any
good
to
store
water
if
I
don't
have
a
place.
The
discharge
later.
In
addition
to
that
I
know,
you
mentioned
the
water
quality
and
then
you
work
with
ADW.
D
While
we
I
review
the
reports
and
and
the
water
quality
is
twofold,
the
testing
within
the
river,
which
shows
some
concerns
and
then
testing
outside
you
know
the
point
sources
and
both
of
which
we
have
concerns
with
I
mean
the
communities.
If
you
test
the
water
in
the
river-
and
you
have
one
picture
showing
the
the
debris
and
and
the
water.
Well,
that's
an
indication
you're
going
to
have
a
you
know
some
quality
issues
and
you
also
have
discharges
from
businesses
well
within
Dearborn,
Heights
I.
D
D
We
have
a
drain
that
needs
to
be
maintained,
whether
it's
you
know
clean
up
or
an
actual
dredging
and
restoration
of
the
channel,
and
then
you
can,
you
can
talk
about
you
know
creating
you
know
a
habitat
creating
you
know
public
use
for
the
for
the
creek,
but
there
are
priorities
and
they
need
to
be
addressed
in
that
order,
in
my
opinion,
so
I'm
hoping
that
your
organization
can
assess
for
that
because
that's
where
the
problem
is
yeah.
A
No,
those
are
great
points
and
just
to
comment
on
that.
So
things
like
the
actual
stormwater
infrastructure,
the
outfalls,
the
the
storm
sewer
drains
that
are
flowing
into
the
creek,
it's
not
to
say
that
those
couldn't
be
included
in
a
project
Focus,
but
it
wouldn't
if
it
were
within
proximity
of
the
project
that
we
are
talking
about
so
within
a
thousand
feet
of
the
drain.
A
If
there's
an
area
of
land
that
we
are
prioritizing
for
a
project
and
there's
an
outfall
within
that
scope,
that
could
be
addressed,
however,
going
through
the
entire
Watershed
and
addressing
all
the
outfalls
specifically,
is
something
that
would
not
be
valid
in
this.
So
Friends
of
the
Detroit
river
is
an
environmental
nonprofit
group
that
works
to
protect,
defend
and
enhance
the
Detroit
River
and
surrounding
lands
and
Waters.
We
are
not
a
drain,
Deputy
commission,
we,
you
know,
so
we
have.
A
A
Habitat
restoration,
types
of
projects,
wow
other
communities
and
other
stakeholders
and
federal
agencies
are
addressing
kind
of
the
larger
picture,
folks
like
Army,
Corps
of
Engineers
and
and
the
county.
So
we
are
very
much
viewing
our
projects
to
supplement
those,
and
by
no
means
will
one
of
these
projects
solve
the
issue,
but
we're
here
to
enhance,
what's
already
going
on,
there's
a
lot
of
momentum,
bringing
back
some
of
the
studies
that
have
been
done
and
getting
those
federal
agencies
back
into
play.
A
On
some
of
this,
so
I
hear
the
concerns
and
we
agree.
There
is
a
method
to
doing
this
in
the
right
fashion.
However,
all
of
those
methods
take
many
years,
and
so
what
we're
identifying
today
likely
won't
be
shovel
ready
for
another
few
years
years
and
by
that
time,
hopefully
with
some
of
the
10
million
dollars
of
arpa
funding
that
the
county
is
going
to
be
putting
towards
North
Branch.
Of
course,
Creek
maintenance
issues
as
well
as
potentially
the
Army
Corps
of
Engineers
detention
Basin.
A
E
E
You
gave
a
very
good
explanation
as
to
the
issues
that
are
happening
within
the
city
and
how
it's
been
broken
down.
My
question
is:
what
can
this
city
do
to
initiate
or
Force
the
county
to
get
on
board
to
get
done?
What
it
is
that
you
have
just
explained
what
what
process
have
you
guys
gone
through
to
make
the
county
accountable
for
this
issue?.
D
I,
don't
know
about
forcing
the
county,
but
we
can.
We
can
say
that
we
are.
We
are
working
with
of
the
agencies
to
Define
what
it
is
that
we
want
so
just
like
I
explained
now
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
we
have.
We
have
a.
We
have
a
process.
We
have
identified
the
problem
and
then
just
like
any
other
issues.
D
Unless
you
truly
identify
what
the
work
is,
you
can't
proceed
to
fixing
that
we
we
did
and
we're
taking
that
to
to
proper,
and
it's
not
just
the
county,
we're
actually
taking
it
to
other
agencies.
And
it's
it's
it's
work.
It's
it's
work
in
progress,
so
with
government.
It's
it's
so
so
we're
hoping
for
organization
like
hers
to
to
assist
us.
It
isn't
just
Wayne
County
it
is.
D
It
is
many
other
agencies
that
have
a
stake
on
us
so
with
hopefully
the
more
the
more
support
we
have
and
and
I
I
believe
that
this
city
has
done
quite
a
bit
in
the
last
couple
years
in
identifying
a
lot
of
the
issues,
and
hopefully
we
can
build
on
that
and
then
support
you
and
or
ADW
or
any
other
organization.
Because
again
until
we
address
these
issues,
recreational
use-
or
you
know,
water
quality.
F
B
Name
is
Rachel
Lapointe
I
live
pretty
close
to
the
creek
I'm
down
in
the
South
End
I
have
a
long
list
of
things
that
I
would
love
to
see
happen
and
I'm
kind
of
going
to
take
it
away
from
the
getting
the
drain
maintenance
stuff
done
to
the
more
fun
stuff.
I've
got
four
kids
from
a
kindergartner
up
to
an
eighth
grader
right
now
they
like
to
bike
they
like
to
play
outside.
B
I
had
the
I'd
printed
out
the
watershed
management
plan
and
I
know
that
that's
part
of,
like
kind
of
the
long-term
goal,
to
get
it
back
to
a
place
where,
like
I,
think
it
said
body
contact
would
be
a
good
thing.
So
I
know
that's
something
that
and
I've
talked
with
other
families
in
the
neighborhood.
B
We
would
love
to
make
sure
that
it's
clean
enough
for
our
kids
to
play
in
and
not
worry
about
them
getting
sick
I
would
also
love
to
see
it
walkable
and
and
sort
of
cleaned
up
along
those
sidewalks,
so
that
when
I'm
walking
my
dog
down
there,
it
looks
nice
I
mean
there's
so
many
mental
health
benefits
to
taking
a
walk
in
nature
right,
I
think
the
joke
right
now
is
to
go
touch
grass,
so
getting
everything
cleaned
up
along
the
whole
length
of
the
creek
and
and
native
wildflowers
native
plants.
B
Things
like
that
I
know.
I
would
really
appreciate,
seeing
that
it's
something
that
I
would
really
love
to
see.
Even
just
the
sidewalk
repair
I'm
sure
it
needs
to
be
kind
of
looked
at
kayaking
and
canoeing
was
talking
with
a
parent
at
one
of
the
elementary
schools
yesterday
about
it.
They
just
bought
a
property
that
butts
up
to
the
creek
weren't
able
to
come
today,
but
I'm
going
to
make
sure
they
get
the
info
for
the
last
meeting.
B
But
they
were
talking
about
they've
wanted
for
years
to
be
able
to
maybe
kayak
or
canoe
in
the
creek.
We
were
saying
that
it'd
be
really
cool,
even
just
for
a
short
thing,
from
Heather
Lane
Park
to
the
Richard
Young
Center.
It's
a
it's
not
very
far,
but
it's
two
city-owned
properties
that
we
were
kind
of
like.
B
Oh,
that
might
be
a
kind
of
cool
thing
that
if
it
was
at
least
cleaned
up
that
little
bit
of
a
length
that
then
even
if
it's
just
that
it
gives
the
kids
a
chance
to
practice
their
skills
in
a
safe
neighborhood.
You
know
I
think
that
would
be
really
awesome
and
then
I'm
not
sure
if
this
is
something
you
guys
could
do,
but
for
all
of
us
in
that
neighborhood
I
think
we've
all
dealt
with
Flooding
at
one
point
or
another,
in
our
homes
or
very
least
in
our
yards.
B
For
me,
I'm
trying
to
figure
out
spots
where
I
can
put
in
my
own
little
mini
rain
Gardens.
A
lot
of
the
resources
I've
found
that
are
available
like
locally
are
either
like
Ann,
Arbor
area
or
Oakland
County,
even
like
I,
haven't,
found
a
lot
of
really
good
like
here's,
how
to
make
a
rain
Garden
for
Wayne
County,
and
this
is
going
to
sound,
really
nerdy
my
grandmother.
B
B
So
you
know
different
things
like
that
and
then
the
only
one
thing
that
I
would
be
concerned
about
is
I,
know.
District
7
is
putting
in
a
new
turf
field
and
it
butts
up
against
the
creek
that
property
and
I
know
they
had
to
go
through
Eagle
to
get
permits
and
they
did
get
the
permits.
But
I
am
still
concerned
that
that's
going
to
contribute
to
more
flooding
because
they're
putting
in
more
impervious
area
and
I,
don't
know.
B
A
Thank
you
so
much
for
sharing
Rachel
we're
recording
all
this
so
I
know
I'm
not
actively
taking
notes,
but
we
and.
A
I
know
it's
a
lot
and
I
will
give
you
my
card
and
I
have
plenty
of
rain.
Garden
resources
I'm
happy
to
share
with
you,
yay,
okay,.
A
We
all
any
other,
it
could
just
be
a
question
clarifying
comment
or
looks
like
Mariana's
coming
up.
G
Hello,
Mariana
Hernandez
we're
at
Lafayette
Street
Dearborn
Heights.
So
my
question
is
more
with
regards
to
the
communication
aspect
of
it
and
the
inclusion
of
all
of
these
11
communities
into
the
results
of
your
study.
So
when
are
the
results
coming
out?
Are
you
going
to
share
the
findings?
I
would
recommend
scheduling
or
meeting
with
all
of
the
communities
together
to
have
this
input,
because
I
do
feel
like
one
of
the
biggest
weaknesses
I've
noticed
here
is
that
there
is
no
collaboration
amongst
the
12
communities,
the
county
or
the
North
Branch
Creek.
G
And
if
we
don't
start
working
together,
then
we're
never
going
to
be
able
to
find
a
solution
for
the
project,
because
we
all
know
what
we
need
to
do.
We
all
know
how
much
it
costs
to
do
the
U.S,
Army
Corps
of
engineer
project,
but
until
the
communities
agree
on
a
way
of
funding
these
projects,
there's
nothing
that
we
can
do
alone.
So
I
was
just
wondering
if
you
had
any
input
on
that.
That's.
A
A
great
question,
so
we
are
accepting
public
feedback
through
the
end
of
June
this
year.
At
that
time,
we're
going
to
also
try
to
wrap
up
the
community
official
discussions
as
well
as
our
desktop
analysis
from
there
we
will
do
limited
windshield
assessments
to
verify
what
we've
received
through
these
communications,
that
they're
actually
valid
and
true
so
we'll
go
be
driving
to
some
of
these
sites.
In
this
first
phase,
what
I,
just
shared
will
follow
us
through
October.
A
So
in
that
time
period
sometime
in
probably
like
mid
to
late
summer,
we
will
be
reconvening
with
the
11
communities
to
have
a
kind
of
a
debrief
of
all
of
the
recommended
locations,
we'll
go
over
the
map
and
we
can
have
any
final
input
provided
then,
what
we
foresee
so
I
reference,
the
e-course
Creek
committee,
a
few
times
the
e-course
Creek
committee
was
developed
by
the
most
Downstream
communities,
Lincoln
Park,
Allen
Park
and
the
City
of
e-course.
A
So
we
would
have
designations
for
the
lower
most
communities
that
I
already
referenced
the
middle,
including
Dearborn
Heights,
and
then
all
the
way
up
through
Romulus
and
having
that
being
part
of
the
e-course
Creek
committee,
we
could
stage
the
meetings
around
the
way
that
Wayne
County
is
planning
to
spend
the
arpa
funds
for
the
maintenance
over
the
next
couple
of
years.
They
are
starting
at
the
most
lowest
point
of
the
Watershed
at
the
Confluence,
with
the
Detroit
River
and
then
working
their
way
up.
A
So
we
envision
the
lower
middle
and
upper
portions
of
the
Watershed
to
kind
of
be
like
little
hubs
for
okay,
here's
what
the
County's
planning
to
do.
Let's
talk
about
this
now,
what
other
opportunities
in
terms
of
green
corridors
and
more
green
infrastructure
can
FDR
assist
with,
and
then
the
committee
itself
also
helps
to
coordinate
litter.
Cleanup
lunar
litter,
cleanup
events,
so
every
second
Saturday
of
the
month
in
the
summertime
we
coordinate
these
cleanups
with
the
communities
we
get
residents
out
there
and
we
actively
do
the
debris
removal.
A
So
there's
also
the
capacity
to
step
into
the
volunteer
portion
of
that.
So
the
committee
could
be
kind
of
a
hub
for
all
things:
e-course
Creek,
including
County
maintenance,
Ecorse
Creek,
support
effort
with
FDR,
which
we're
talking
about
today
and
then
also
the
community
involvement
in
terms
of
stewarding,
The,
Watershed
and
making
a
connection
to
it.
So
so
folks
care
about
it
more.
G
A
For
the
arpa
funds-
yes,
I
am
not
aware.
I
do
know
they
work
with
Spicer
group,
but
I
don't
know.
If
that's
who
is
doing
that
that
decision
I
just
know
that
it
is
one
of
their
consultants
and.
A
Not
at
this
point
we
see
this
as
a
three-phase
project
so
phase.
One
is
what
we're
in
right
now:
Gathering
Community
feedback,
inventorying
all
possible
sites
within
a
thousand
feet
of
the
creek.
We
see
phase
two
as
a
prioritization
of
all
the
sites
that
we
are
collecting
and
in
that
effort
we
will
see
how
much
impact
would
each
site
have
based
on
the
relative
impact
this.
They
will
be
prioritizing
that
ranking
order
so
projects
that
meet
multiple
goals
of
the
watershed
management
plan,
projects
that
have
a
large
footprint.
A
Those
are
stuff,
that's
going
to
qualify,
really
high
and
then,
when
we
get
to
phase
three
we'll
be
escaping
The
Watershed
approach
that
we
use
in
phase
one
and
two
and
we'll
be
diving
into
each
individual
project
and
at
that
point
we'll
bring
out
an
engineer
for
feasibility,
design
and
construction.
A
A
F
Councilman
Ray
Muscat
mentioned
that
the
creek
is
the
counties
it's
their
drain.
It's
their
problem
and
I
have
a
lot
of
questions
for
the
county
that
I'd
like
to
get
answered.
I,
don't
think
they've
done
the
work
that
they
are
required
or
should
be
doing
I,
don't
think,
we've
seen
it
and
I'd
like
to
get
them
to
spend
a
lot
of
the
money
they
should
have
been
spending
over
the
years
to
help
us
out
with
this
problem.
F
However,
the
main
issue
behind
the
flooding
is,
as
you
mentioned,
impervious
surfaces
and
the
city
or
even
before
it
was
a
city.
The
a
lot
of
construction
was
done.
The
streets
were
laid
out,
a
lot
of
buildings
were
built,
a
zoning
was
done
all
before
this
was
even
a
city,
but
it
was
the
development
of
the
land
which
has
caused
this
large
amount
of
water
to
pour
into
the
creek
at
a
very
high
rate.
F
F
As
far
as
communication
between
all
these
communities,
this
Association
or
Alliance
of
down
river
watersheds,
that
seems
like
it'd,
be
the
place
where
all
this
communication
interaction
should
be
I,
don't
know.
What's
going
on
and
I
really
don't
know
who
represents
Dearborn
Heights
on
that,
but
it
would
seem
to
me
if
there
was
going
to
be
communication.
That
would
be
the
primary.
F
F
And,
thirdly,
our
city
engineer,
Ali
deep
with
all
due
respect,
we
do
have
differences
of
opinion
and
regards
to
the
creek
and
the
best
actions
to
be
taken.
We
really
don't
know
the
actual
sediment
buildup
that
has
occurred
to
the
creek
over
the
years,
but
I
can
guarantee
you
there's
a
couple
things
going
to
happen.
F
One
is
if
you
open
up
all
those
drains
from
all
the
streets,
the
rain
water
will
just
flood
into
the
creek
even
faster
than
it
is
before,
because
right
now,
basically,
that
that
sediment's
built
up
and
it's
blocking
half
or
three
quarters
of
that
drain
outflow,
the
net
is
actually
slowing
it
down,
which
is
actually,
if
you're,
going
to
help
anything
out
as
far
as
flooding
and
and
the
Creek's
Health.
You
want
to
slow
down
that
flow,
so
I'm
not
sure
what
that's
going
to
do.
F
But
we've
had
discussions
about
it
and
one
of
the
things
my
recommendation
to
the
city,
if
you
want
to
increase
the
overall
flow
of
the
creek
you're
going
to
have
to
replace
all
of
the
culverts
Street
Crossings,
which
I
understand
there's
about
15
of
them
right
now
and
I
believe
the
city
should
commit
to
replacing
one
every
year.
They
should
try
to
put
that
in
a
budget
and
they
should
do
it
because
you
can
widen
the
creek
out.
You
can
make
the
creek
deeper,
but
when
it
gets
to
those
culverts
bam,
that's
your
restriction!
F
That's
going
to
back
you
up!
That's
going
to
take
and
and
basically
take
all
the
rest
of
your
work
and
and
make
it
not
not
avoid.
The
only
reason
I
might
back
to
dredging
is
because,
if
you're
able
to
take
out
a
foot
deep
and
15
foot
wide,
that
volume
becomes
then
storage
as
far
as
holding
maybe
a
a
half,
a
million
gallons.
That
would
otherwise
could
end
up
in
the
streets
or
in
people's
homes.
So
we
differ
on
that
and
we'll
hamper
it
out.
F
We'll
work
it
out
we'll
get
there,
but
that's
based
on
just
all
the
comments
I've
heard
tonight.
So.
A
F
Appreciate
your
organization
and
looking
for
partners
I
believe
we
need
Partners
everywhere
to
get
the
job
done.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
Yes,
it
is
going
to
be
a
watershed
approach.
Definitely
not
one
Community
is
going
and
I
will
just
comment.
We
work
with
the
ADW.
The
ADW
encapsulates
more
communities
than
just
the
Ecorse
Creek
Watershed.
So,
yes,
it
is
appropriate,
but
also
they
expand
Beyond
The
Watershed
that
we
are
considering
into
portions
of
the
Huron
River
Watershed
and
also
just
direct
drainage
to
the
Detroit
River.
A
So
we
do
work
with
them,
but
it
might
not
be
the
most
appropriate
for
all
of
the
stakeholders
in
that
group
and
then
just
to
touch
on
clearing
out
the
drains.
So
one
thing
wouldn't
be
just
to
remove
the
sediment.
A
That's
built
up
in
the
drains,
but
retrofit
those
drains,
so
the
outfall
isn't
immediately
going
into
the
creek,
but
instead
it's
going
that
we're
catching
storm
water
from
a
roof,
a
parking
lot,
a
basketball
court,
whatever
it
is
and
we're
diverting
it
into
an
area
where
we
can
use
it
for
Habitat
wetlands
floodplains
and
then
that
would
flow
into
the
creek.
So
it
wouldn't
just
be
cleaning
out
the
pipes
for
direct
flow
into
the
creek,
but
retrofitting
to
store
the
water.
Let
it
infiltrate,
naturally
create
a
higher
groundwater
level
table.
H
Hassan
Jamal
I
am
the
city
director
for
community
and
economic
development
department.
One
of
the
projects
I
handle
is
the
FEMA
projects
which
is
relieving
the
resident
who
fed
up
with
the
with
the
misery
of
the
flood
and
dealing
with
their
health
and
safety.
So
we
offer
the
buy
their
homes
demolish
the
home
and
turn
it
into
a
space
which
we
call
it
open,
Green,
Space,
safe
and
healthy,
free
of
all
the
contamination
and
the
Hazardous
Materials
it's
recorded
to
FEMA.
We
maintain
it.
If
we
want
to
do
something
in
it,
it
gotta
be
no.
H
No,
you
know
it
doesn't,
doesn't
interfere
with
the
flood
flood.
You
know
flood
way,
so
no
structure,
nothing
on
it.
Just
plan
Okay,
so
I
know
you
are
here
to
asking
us
what
you
can
help
us
with
your
project,
agreeing
project
not
with
the
infrastructure
of
the
critic.
So
let's
make
sure
the
residents
understand
that
so
you
are
not
here
to
help
the
city
resolve
the
infrastructure
of
the
structure
of
the
creek
and
deterioration.
Whatever
you
are
here
to
help
us
around
the
creek.
What
can
we
offer
for
you?
H
Those
properties
are
free,
for
you
will
deal
with
you,
the
county
and
FEMA,
to
release
it
for
you.
If
you
want
to
do
a
project
in
it.
Those
are
the
leftovers,
because
when
you
use
some
of
those
Pro,
you
know
for
some
other.
You
know
infrastructure,
we
don't
know
yet,
but
we
have
already
approved
by
FEMA
to
do
scoping
to
find
out
if
detention
retention
works
not
working
whatever.
It's,
not
it's,
not
in
your
scope.
It's
it's
the
city
and
the
County
SCOPE.
H
The
number
two
things
I
recommend
immediately
right
now:
the
swapka
park,
it's
near
the
creek.
It
is
part
of
our
Richard
Young,
Center
recreational
that
can
be
a
perfect
place
for
you
to
start
okay,
because
I
can't
or
the
city
cannot
qualify
that
Park
for
federal
money,
because
it's
an
area
where
it
doesn't
qualify.
We
have
another
project
going
on
right
now
at
our
park
also
agent
to
The
Clique.
We
are
able
to
find
the
park
for
the
people
down
there
who
live
and
wanted
to
to
feel
that
they
are
welcome
in
that
area.
H
So
this
is
I.
Think
I
recommend
this
park
for
you
to
look
at.
It's
called
swapka
park
next
to
Richard,
Young
Center.
You
can
start
there,
you
can
beautify
it.
You
can
put
a
lot
of
amenity
over
there.
That's
how
you
can
assist
us
with
your
greenish.
You
know
recreational
project
because
I
think
right
now,
it's
the
it's
a
trend.
You
know
Federal
Trend,
State
Trend,
it's
everybody's
time.
You
know.
After
the
pandemic,
everybody
wants
people
out
Recreation
green,
because
it's
proof
that
it
relieved
the
people
from
the
after
effect
of
the
pandemic,
with
that.
H
A
You
so
much
for
sharing
Hassan
and
just
to
clarify.
A
So
it's
not
to
say
our
projects
would
never
address
infrastructure,
but
we're
not
going
to
go
through
the
Watershed
and
only
address
infrastructure
if
we
identify
swapka
Park
for
a
project
and
there
were
a
outfall
that
were
completely
filled
with
sediment
and
debris.
That
could
be
part
of
that
project,
but
we
couldn't
just
go,
identify
every
single
outfall
and
do
that
as
a
project.
A
So
if
it
were
in
the
scope,
proximity
like
actual
like
relative
of
of
length
distance
from
a
project,
there
could
be
potential
for
that
and
some
other
yeah
just
as
long
as
it's
on
the
creek
and
then
some
other
examples
of
that
might
look
like
you
know,
enhancing
Bridges
or
walkways,
so
it
it's
not
to
say
no
infrastructure.
It
just
has
to
be
tied
to
a
green
scope.
A
A
Yes,
and
we
will
so
I
see,
we
have
10
minutes
left
I
want
to
be
mindful
of
everyone's
time.
If
you
didn't
have
a
chance
to
go
up
to
the
podium
and
speak
there's
printed
surveys
over
with
Kaylee
and
Sam,
we
have
them
in
English,
Spanish,
Arabic,
they're,
also
all
online,
and
you
can
access
it
from
this
QR
code.
That
is
up
on
the
screen
and
I'm
going
to
move
this,
so
you
can
actually
take
a
picture
of
it
with
your
phone.
A
That's
going
to
be
the
easiest
way
to
submit
your
content
in
terms
of
where
you'd
like
to
see
efforts
take
place.
What
you'd
like
to
see,
as
I
mentioned,
we'll
be
collecting
this
through
the
end
of
June,
so
folks
still
have
about
two
months.
If
anyone
is
interested.
H
A
Yeah
we
do
have
the
FEMA
list
of
sites
and
I
actually
went
through
in
categorized,
which
ones
were
within
our
thousand
foot
scope
that
which
the
majority
were
there
were
a
few
that
weren't.
But
yes,
that
is
that's
perfect.
This
is
the
exactly
the
kind
of
content
we
would
like
to
hear
just
want
to.
Thank
you
all
again
for
taking
your
time
to
come
down
and
listen
to
me
and
have
me
listen
to
you
if
you
know
anyone
else
that
would
be
interested
in
sharing
their
feedback
on
this.
A
A
I
Okay,
my
family's
been
in
that
area
since
1946.
I'm
10
blocks
away
from
the
creek,
and
some
things
have
changed,
but
most
have
gotten
worse
and
somebody
refer
believe.
Mr
Janny
wanted
to
know
what
we've
done.
We
did
win
a
lawsuit
with
the
county.
I
It
was
never
pursued,
so
I
don't
know
if
we
could
take
up
on
that
again,
but
I
I
don't
know,
but
it
wasn't
taken
care
of
that
was
10
to
12
years
ago,
and
there
have
been
many
efforts
and,
in
addition
to
the
areas
you've
mentioned,
we've
got
Beach
Daily
and
Van
Born,
where
the
CVS
is
just
pulling
out.
Some
of
the
stuff
would
be
a
big
Improvement
at
that
location,
I
believe,
there's
a
culvert
there
there's
a
well.
What
is
he
he's?
Not
a
squirrel
he's
not
a
raccoon.
His
name
is
Chucky.
I
The
neighbors
all
know
him
right
there
and
he
goes
under
the
concrete
to
visit
the
neighbors,
but
we
have
another
and
we've
got,
of
course,
the
Hanover
Courier
that
they've
mentioned,
where
we've
taken
all
the
properties
out
the
best
one,
of
course
is
swapka,
and
then
we
also
have
Inkster
Road
and
Van
Born,
where
we've
discussed
having
a
retainer
detention
type
location,
that
is
city
property.
A
Yeah
so
I
know,
we've
had
some
conversations
with
the
e-course
Creek
committee,
I'm,
not
sure
where
those
have
left
off.
A
If
there
was
anything
more
but
we
we
tend
to
have
all
of
the
cleanup
efforts
on
the
second
Saturday
of
the
month
in.
G
A
August
and
September,
and
as
part
of
that
we
work,
the
committee
works
with
the
communities
to
help
identify.
You
know
who's
going
to
be
removing
the
debris.
Where
is
it
going
getting
the
the
dumpsters
there?
We
really
help
with
recruiting
the
volunteers
with
the
Outreach
of
it,
so
we'll
have
to
touch
base.
I
A
I
A
The
creek
is
it
weightable.
Is
it
kayakable
kind
of
how
we're
accessing
it
and
the
downstream
communities
we
all
hop
on
kayaks
and
go
in
it
and
I?
Don't
believe
it's
about
the
same
in
this
community,
but
having
those
conversations
will
allow
us
to
to
do
that
and
I
believe
we
have
every
third
Thursday
of
the
month
at
3
30
with
the
committee.
So.
A
Sure
you're
on
that
next
that.
I
A
Well,
thank
you
for
fielding
that
well
I'll
go
ahead
and
stop
sharing
my
screen
then,
and
if
there's
not
anyone
else
that
wants
to
come
up
to
the
podium,
Kaylee,
Sam
and
I
will
be
hanging
out
for
a
few
last
minutes.
If
you
want
to
chat
with
us
about
anything
one-on-one
but
I
plea,
I
recommend
you
at
least
grab
some
information
on
your
way
out.
The
left-hand
side
of
the
table
is
kind
of
General
FDR.