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The Public Hearing for the 𝗗𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗯𝗼𝗿𝗻 𝗛𝗲𝗶𝗴𝗵𝘁𝘀 𝗣𝗿𝗼𝗽𝗼𝘀𝗲𝗱 𝗥𝗲𝗰𝗿𝗲𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗼𝗻 𝗠𝗮𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗿 𝗣𝗹𝗮𝗻 𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟮-𝟮𝟬𝟮𝟲 taking place Tuesday, December 14th 2021 via Zoom.
A
Dearborn
heights
parks
and
recreation
master
plan,
public
hearing,
I'd,
definitely
appreciate
everybody's
attendance
and
hopefully
that
we'll
get
lots
of
good
input
tonight
for
our
city
and
our
recreation
facilities
and
our
parks.
I
just
like
to
let
you
know
we
are
recording
this,
so
others
can
look
at
it
later
and
see
what
was
discussed
and.
A
A
Wanted
to
see
in
the
city
so
with
that
all
that
being
said,
this
isn't
the
last
time
that
we
will
be
able
to
take
input.
Just
so
you
know
we
will
be
accepting
written
comments
within
the
next
week
and
a
half
and
we
definitely
will
incorporate
those
into
the
plan
that
we're
going
to
be
submitting
to
the
dnr
in
late
january.
So
I'd
like
to
remind
everybody
to
please
raise
your
hand
to
speak
at
this
time.
I
am
going
to
turn
it
over
to
rick
from
police
and
vanderbrink.
A
Who
is
the
company
that
is
helping
us
put
together
the
master
plan
and
he
is
going
to
take
us
through
a
small
presentation
and
definitely
at
that
point
at
some
point,
we'll
open
it
up
for
your
comments
and
any
additions
or
things
that
you
might
want
to
see
in
our
master
plan.
So
rick,
do
you
want
to
take
over
sure.
B
If
you
will,
the
the
new
draft
is,
I
think,
been
linked
to
the
city,
the
website
that
is
trying
to
direct
more
people
to
it,
so
that
bad
link
is
still
active
and
we're
also
waiting
to
get
some
updated
community
survey
data
that
may
have
one
or
two
projects
identified
that
are
not
yet
identified.
But
we
hope
to
delve
into
that
and
within
that,
as
kim
said
the
next
week
or
ten
days,
time
frame
to
solicit
additional
comment.
B
B
B
This
plan
is
a
requirement.
The
other
program
which
the
dnr
funds
quite
a
few
park
and
recreation
projects
is
the
michigan
passport
grants
program
and,
although
that
doesn't
require
a
five-year
recreation
plan,
it
does
require
that
you
have
a
capital
improvements
plan
submitted
with
with
the
grant
application
for
the
passport.
B
The
other
aspect
of
the
cip
would
be
if
you're
looking
at,
like
community
development
block
grant
funding
many
times.
Those
programs
also
have
some
type
of
cip
requirement
that
they're
trying
to
see
that
you
designated
the
projects
in
some
type
of
public
process.
So
again,
this
plan
will
serve
you
in
many
different
ways,
and
it's
also
important
because
again,
you
know,
leisure
time
in
america
is
is,
is
a
real
big
activity
and
really
as
much
as
we
can
promote
recreation
and
physical
activities
to
any
community.
B
B
The
planned
content
and
again
the
the
draft
plan
is
formatted,
and
this
is
again
I
always
tell
communities
that
the
dnr
checklist
for
print
plan
approval
is
set
up
in
these
categories
and
then
that's
why
we
format
it
in
exactly
this
order
and
exactly
those
categories
you
know
the
first
is
community
description,
which
has
a
lot
of
basic.
You
know
demographic
information
in
it,
as
well
as
some
natural
resources
information.
B
The
key
component
in
the
community
description
really
is.
What
is
your,
I
guess,
there's
three
parts:
what's
the
general
population
which,
from
the
census,
data
the
city
of
the
awareness,
had
a
fairly
significant
bump
in
the
last
10
years,
I
think
it
increased
nearly
7
000
residents
in
that
period
of
time
between
the
censuses.
B
The
other
thing
that's
important
is
the
median
income
level
of
the
community,
because
again,
when
it
comes
to
grant
scoring
there
is,
there
are
additional
points
for
low
to
moderate
communities
and
kind
of
the
communities
in
the
middle
of
the
median
income
level,
and
the
city
of
newborn
heights
is
kind
of
right
in
that
middle
category.
So
you
would,
you
would
qualify
for
some
type
of
grant
points
based
on
your
median
income.
B
15
of
the
general
population
has
some
type
of
physical
disability,
whether
it
be
visual,
whether
it
be
mobility,
whether
it
be
sensory.
So
again,
it's
just
something
to
keep
in
mind
and
keep
keep
on
your
radar.
As
you
start,
looking
at
projects
is
really
the
big
emphasis
is
looking
at.
How
do
we
redevelop
park
projects
with
universal
accessibility
in
mind.
B
The
second
section
is
administrative
structure
which
just
talks
about
the
decision
making
process.
The
third
section
description
of
the
planning
process,
which
talks
about
the
community
surveys.
The
two
workshops
that
were
scheduled
and
this
this
public
hearing
as
well,
is
what
type
of
input
was
gathered
to
really
help
formulate
the
plan.
B
So
again,
it's
just
kind
of
a
way
to
back
check
when
you
start
looking
at
projects
and
the
last
section
which
we'll
spend
most
of
this
conversation
on
tonight
is
the
action
program,
the
capital
improvement
schedule
and
some
of
the
rationale,
that's
the
real
meat
of
of
any
plan,
and
this
plan
was
basically
kind
of
building
off
the
old
plan.
There
was
a
little
bit
of
a
lull
or
a
lot.
B
In
the
recreation
plan
itself
there
are,
there
are
a
park,
specific
actions
identified
with
each
of
the
parks,
and
there
were
also
some
broad
general
just
overall
recreational
thoughts
if
you
will
on
what
need
to
be
kind
of
focus
on
as
the
community
moves
through
this
plan
just
like
to
take
a
minute,
and
so
these
you
know
all
the
parks
are
identified,
the
first
one
on
this
list
and
again
it's
not
in
it
really
any
priority
or
alphabetical
order.
But
parkland
park
was
listed.
B
Could
this
be
a
potential
home
for
potential
bark
park
dog
park
so
that
was
kind
of
on
the
targeted
list
for
parkland
park
central
park
canfield
community
center
in
canfield
ice
arena
was
some
of
the
long
term,
even
from
the
last
plan
was
discussion
on
potentially
upgrading
and
replacing
the
current
recreation
center.
There
also
identifying
opportunities
for
new
ada
play
structures
paved
walkways,
some
softball
cages.
B
You
know
constructing
a
walking
trail
and
again
also
potentially
replacing
some
of
the
parking
lot
areas
in
that
one
as
well-
and
it's
also
you
know,
looking
at
some
of
the
parking
lots
probably
need
some
further
evaluation.
As
kim-
and
I
talked
about,
there's,
there's
repaving
of
and
resurfacing
of
parking
lots
and
there's
reconstruction
of
parking
lots.
B
So
again,
I
think
that
needs
a
little
more
going
forward.
Discussion
on
can
some
of
the
items
the
parking
lots
be
repaved
or
are
they?
Are
they
getting
close
to
where
they're
reaching
the
end
of
their
life
cycle
and
have
to
be
a
little
bit
more
substantial
reconstruction
also,
there's
also
some
new
things
as
far
as
storm
water
management
and
some
green
technologies,
and
how
to
basically
capture
some
of
that
storm
water
and
take
some
pressure
off
the
community
stormwater
system.
B
As
we're
all
well
aware
that
this
last
last
summer
there
were
some
pretty
significant
rains
across
southeast
michigan,
and
so
that
might
be
an
opportunity
to
help
combat,
and
you
know,
help
ease
some
of
that
burden
on
the
existing
infrastructure
system.
By
incorporating
some
stormwater
management
in
new
projects.
B
In
houghton
park,
there's
again
resurface
parking
area
and
again
with
the
potential
of
porous,
paving
and
rain
gardens.
The
existing
splash
pad
is
getting
to
the
point
where
it
is
probably
going
to
need
some
type
of
resurfacing
and
potentially
with
some
safety
materials
in
the
in
the
next
few
years.
B
Swapka
powers
park
and
the
richard
a
young
recreation
center.
Again,
some
softball
baseball
upgrades
some
type
of
safety,
fencing
and
the
big
item
on,
and
that
facility
too,
is
a
lot
of
discussion
on
replacing
either
tennis
courts
or
with
some
type
of
combination
of
tennis
and
pickleball,
to
help
you
know,
expand
out
those
use
uses
to
the
community.
B
Pickleball
is
kind
of
an
interesting
thing
because
it
is
probably
the
fastest
growing
segment
in
recreation
and
development
facilities
that
we've
seen.
I
think
the
last
number
I
saw
that
probably
the
pickleball
membership
across
the
country
has
grown
to
over
nearly
five
million
in
a
short
period
of
time.
So
it
is
by
far
one
of
the
fastest
growing
resources
that
we've
seen
there's.
There
was
some
discussion
in
the
old
plan
about
acquiring
some
parcels
adjacent
to
the
swapka
powers,
and
then
I
think
all
the
parks
also
talk
about.
B
B
Heather
park
was
identified
for
replacement
of
the
two
tennis
courts
in
the
basketball
court.
Some
additional
shade
trees,
additional
security
cameras.
You
know
ada
improvements
as
far
as
connecting
walkways
and
and
can
lock
install
led
lighting
and
security
cameras
again.
So
it's
kind
of
a
recurring
theme
there.
B
Whittle
park
again
expand
playground
equipment
again
to
target
some
of
those
different
age
groups.
You
know
between
the
six
to
twelve
and
the
five
and
under
and
also
there's,
I
think,
a
lot
of
the
playgrounds.
There's
been
some
discussion
about
the
surface
material
and
looking
at
other
opportunities
to
create
more
universally
accessible
surfaces,
as
opposed
to
just
the
bark
fiber
fiber
mulch.
That
is
used
in
a
lot
of
playgrounds.
That
would
there
be
an
opportunity
and
say
one
or
two
of
the
facilities
to
look
at
more
of
a
port
and
place
surface.
B
That
would
allow
a
little
more
accessibility
and
the
last
park
on
the
list
was
warren
valley.
Golf
course,
since
this
was
kind
of
a
recent
addition
from
the
last
last
plan
to
this
plan.
Now
that's
come
under
city
control
and
there's
been
some
discussion
about
evaluating
the
existing
parking
areas.
You
know
how
much
of
those
existing
park
parking
areas
are
necessary
for
golf
course
and
event
operations,
and
is
there
possibility
to
repurpose
some
of
those
areas
for
some
type
of
music
kind
of
event
space?
B
Some
of
those
special
system-wide
initiatives
that
I
talked
about
earlier
were
the
facilities
some
renovations
at
the
eaton
center
and
as
well
as
the
potential
for
the
canfield
community.
Center
replacement
were
have
been
discussed
and
other
general
items
like
just
general
park.
Promotion,
community
involvement,
fundraising,
barrier-free
accessibility,
just
overall
design
improvements
as
as
different
elements
reach
their
life
cycle
and
safety
park.
Programming
and
land
acquisition
land
acquisition,
just
overall,
even
with
the
increase
in
population.
B
B
As
I
mentioned,
the
back
section
of
the
plant
talks
about
the
rationale,
and
it
also
goes
through
and
itemizes
a
five-year
capital
improvements
program
on
what
some
of
these
costs
may
be.
But
again,
I'd
like
to
remind
everybody
that
this
is
really
just
a
guide
for
future
projects,
it's
kind
of
an
advisory
snapshot,
and
it's
really
just
a
starting
point.
B
Even
from
the
dnr's
perspective.
It's
not
it's
not
necessarily
critical.
If,
if
you
know
as
far
as
year,
one
to
year,
five,
it
just
is
something
identified
in
the
plan
was
their
discussion
on
it
and
because
they
understand
that
things
are
going
to
move
and
there's
going
to
be
targets
of
opportunity
that
you
need
to
be
flexible
and
also
the
biggest
thing
is
the
last
statement
is
it
needs
to
be
dependent
on
financial
feasibility.
B
B
So
you
know,
if
I
always
tell
communities
if
you
can,
if
you
can
do
a
couple
of
things
really
every
year
on
your
list
and
just
chip
away
at
your
list,
you're
actually
doing
very
well.
So
again,
don't
don't
be
disheartened
by
the
size
of
the
list,
but
I
think
it's.
Its
ultimate
goal
is
to
really
promote
progress
and
promote
things
moving
forward.
B
This
list
also
ties
back
to
the
list
for
the
individual
parks
that
were
discussed
earlier,
but
again,
canfield
community
center
between
these
were
some
of
the
projects
that
were
listed
as
priorities,
but
updating
the
ball
field,
lighting
to
led
installing
some
type
of
walking
track,
walking
path
and
resurfacing
and
reconstructing
some
of
the
parking
lots
that
those
projects
you
know
came
up
to
approximately
just
short
of
360
thousand
dollars
in
year.
One
the
warren
valley,
golf
course.
You
know
the
potentially
some
type
of
event:
space
amphitheater
pavilion.
B
If
you
will,
we,
we
targeted,
like
a
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
price
tag,
swap
powers
park
in
the
young
center
renovate
the
kitchen
and
looks
like
some
repair
of
some
of
the
bathrooms
in
the
facility
were
necessary
and
those
are,
you
know
again
to
be
determined,
and
that
would
be
one
of
those
things
that
again
could
needs
additional
study
on
its
own.
Because,
again
it's
a
lot
of
internal
construction
and
those
costs
are
have
been
really
fluctuating.
B
Many
of
those
wooden
play
structures
that
were
built
in
the
90s
are
across
michigan
and
the
one
thing
that
they're
starting
to
see
in
many
of
them
is
the
arsenic
content
and
the
wood
preservative.
Preservatives
have
created
an
issue
where
a
lot
of
communities
are
looking
at
starting
to
phase
those
out.
So
again,
that's
why
this
was
was
targeted
as
our
priority
and
then
parkland
park,
again
self
locking
gates
and
some
type
of
security
cameras,
at
least
in
the
in
in
the
first
year.
One
of
the
cip.
B
The
eaton
senior
center
again
in
year,
two
a
new
replaced,
the
pavilion
in
the
courtyard
and
also
additional
replacement
of
concrete
in
the
courtyard
potentially
a
ninety
thousand
dollar
project
waddle
park.
Again
a
new
playscape
there,
some
ground
cover
landscaping.
Other
stabilization,
85
000
daily
park,
again
upgrade
lighting
to
led
75
000
in
the
canfield
community
center
resurfaced.
The
west
parking
lot
it's
kind
of
a
year
two,
as
opposed
to
the
main,
the
main,
the
main
parking
lot
and
the
we
call
it
the
horseshoe
drive.
B
If
you
will,
I
know
central
park
drive,
but
this
was
listed
as
a
you
know,
potentially
second
year
project
to
balance
out
the
that
park
and
so
again,
an
overall
price
tag
of
627
in
year
two
parkland
park.
Again,
there
was
the
first
item
in
that
original
list
was
the
redesign
of
the
sliding
hill
again
trying
to
expand
it
to
winter
use
as
well,
some
additional
lighting,
the
heating
unit
and
also
a
new
playscape
and
so
parkland
park,
230
thousand
baron
park
just
again
new
playscape.
B
So
very
you
know
typical
theme
and
I
think
a
lot
of
the
parks
is
start
to
upgrade
some
of
the
play
areas
and
halton
park.
The
dog
fencing
looking
at
potentially
there
as
well
mcmillan
park
was
one
that
was
a
carryover
from
the
old
rec
plan.
It
was.
There
was
some
talk
of
some
acquisition,
potentially
from
that.
B
So
that's
you
know
at
least
to
keep
it
on
people's
radar
that
was
left
in
in
this
plan
in
heather
lane
park,
which
you
know
you
had
a
chance
to
get
to
heather
lane.
Really
the
tennis
courts
and
the
basketball
goals
have
really
reached
the
end
of
their
life
cycle,
use
and
so
again,
as
well
as
constructing
some
ada
parking
at
that
facility.
B
Year
four
swapping
powers
again
again
that
potential
acquisition
again
just
to
try
to
keep
it
on
people's
radar
for
the
two
properties
again
to
put
a
placeholder
in
there
canfield
community
center
central
park
discussions
on
at
some
point
in
time.
Those
tennis
courts
are
going
to
be
resurfaced
with
color
coding,
175
thousand
kenlock
park,
new
jogging
walking
trail
100
000.
B
B
Year
five
swapka
powers
again
looking
at
potentially
is
there
room
for
another
splash
pad
in
the
community
and
also
an
outdoor
fitness
court
courts
canfield
community
center-
that's
the
one.
I
guess
I
wanted
to
again
get
on
your
radar
and
get
on
your
list
is
a
really
a
good
opportunity
for
a
total
feasibility
study,
because
our
rule
of
thumb
for
indoor
recreational
facility
right
now
is
currently
around
300
a
square
foot.
B
So
if
you're
looking
at
a
90
000
square
foot
type
of
facility,
you
know
an
indoor
recreational
facility
in
the
next
decade
could
easily
top.
You
know
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
so
again
just
getting
that
to
where
there's
potentially
some
more
discussion
on
it
and
again
to
keep
it
on
people's
radar
again
kenlock
park,
new
playscape
and
parkland
park.
B
And
I
should
add
that
again
we
can
make
this
powerpoint
available.
Just
to
give
everybody
a
quick
overview,
and-
and
I
know
that
the
the
the
recreation
plan
draft
has
been
updated
on
the
city
website
to
the
link.
So
again,
if
anybody
wants
a
a
direct
email
of
a
pdf
version
of
the
plan
itself
and
this
presentation,
just
let
kim
know
and
I'll,
make
sure
that
we
get
it
out
to
people
for
further
further
thought.
A
The
master
plan-
that's
up
right
now
that
we
just
uploaded
today
is
actually
our
second
draft.
There
will
be
probably
a
couple
more
drafts
following
this
one,
just
so
that
everybody
knows,
and
we
definitely
will
be
taking
anybody's
ideas
or
suggestions
for
any
of
the
parks
and
then
yeah.
I
don't
know
if
rick
mentioned
this
earlier,
but
nothing
is
written
in
stone
and
we
definitely
even
after
this
master
plan
is
submitted.
A
A
The
first
year
the
five-year
plan
of
the
first
year,
I
looked
at
what
we
needed
to
really
do
in
the
city
and
what
really
needs
to
be
done
quickly
and
actually
badly
and
got
those
in
as
quick
as
we
can
and
as
funds
are
available,
we
can
get
some
of
these
projects
done.
We
have
started
working
on
a
couple
of
them.
He
mentioned
the
richard,
a
young
kitchen
and
the
richard
a
young
guest
rooms,
guest
restrooms.
A
A
A
The
price
came
in
at
13
million,
so
obviously
prices
have
changed
and
they're
a
lot
higher.
Now
I
guess
rick
was
telling
me
earlier:
it's
300
a
square
foot
for
for
building
and
then
you're
lucky.
If
you
can
get
the
staff
to
to
build
the
building
and
also
you
lucky,
you
can
get
the
materials
so
we're
in
a
whole
new
day
and
age
now.
So
I
do
have
a
question
for
the
mayor.
Can
we
like
unmute
the
mayor,
because
I
have
a
question.
C
A
C
A
D
D
And
so
we
don't
want
to
use
it
for
anything.
At
this
point
you
know
we
figured
out.
You
know
what
we're
going
to
do
with
the
e-course
creek,
because
if
we
do
anything
with
that,
you
know
and
that's
going
to
cause
big
issues
for
the
people
around
eucharist
creek,
then
you
know
that's
going
to
be
a
huge
problem,
so
let's
put
a
put
a
hold
on
a
thought
with
an
incidentary
property.
For
the
time
being,
so
we
figured
out
what
the
army
corps
of
engineers
want
to
do.
D
A
D
A
You
know
because
it's
just
basically
a
golf
person,
a
lot
of
people
have
been
asking,
you
know,
can't
you
offer
this
event
or
that
event
in
the
south
end
we're
very
limited
in
our
property,
and
I
know
that
I've
been
receiving
emails,
that
they've
increased
the
amount
of
money
for
land
and
water
grant
funding.
So
I'm
just
curious
about
that.
D
D
So
that's
why
we
have
to
get
this
master
plan
up
up
to
date
and
signed
off,
so
we
can
pursue
grants,
and
I
know
from
all
the
meetings
that
I've
been
attending
for
the
last
year
this
past
year
with
the
county,
the
state
and
federal
level
they're
encouraging
people,
obviously
to
be
outdoors,
and
I
think,
they're
going
to
put
investments
on
people
to
do
outdoors
things,
so
they
might
be
open
to
giving
grants
to
cities.
That
put
you
know,
money
into
the
infrastructure,
like
parks
and
those
kind
of
things,
so
I
will
pursue.
D
I
keep
pursuing
that
with
with
our
congressional
state
and
wayne
and
the
county
to
see
if
there's
anything,
but
you
know
as
of
right
now.
We
can't
really
there's
nothing
going
on
at
this
point.
You
know,
so
we
get
the
master
plan
up
signed
off.
You
know
by
the
council
and
the
residents
and
also
we'll
see
if
early
in
the
year,
you
know
what
what
new
you
know
like
they
have
the
infrastructure
bill.
D
A
E
E
E
Many
of
the
items
you
mentioned
have
are
being
looked
at
as
part
of
the
city's
capital
improvement
master
plan.
We
wanted
to
update
our
our
vision,
including
land
use,
by
the
way,
not
just
you
know,
parks
and
rec,
but
the
overall,
because
of
what
there
are
no
unlimited
resources,
as
you
know,
so
we
all
have
to
live
within.
We
have
to
prioritize
our
needs
and
that
will
include
things
like
parks
and
recs
police.
E
E
You
know
some
property
that
we
actually
wanted
to
look
at
as
part
of
what
we
what
we,
what
the
city
needs
on
the
on
the
capital
side.
So
one
one
of
the
priorities
that
we
told
arpa
about
would
be
the
storm
water
management
and
that
will
have
a
large
as
well
as
smaller
projects,
so
we're
working
on
updating
our
standards.
E
So
future
construction
will
have
you
know
the
the
finger
drains
on
the
catch
basins
and
permeable
pavements
and
all
that
good
stuff,
but
on
the
general
large
scale,
we're
looking
at
regional
as
well
as
statewide
to
capture
a
storm
water
and
the
in
the
basins
that
we
are.
You
know,
part
of,
so
it
would
be
part
of
the
you
know,
watersheds
of
the
rouge
or
the
e-course
creek,
and
that
is
on
our
radar
screen.
E
So
again,
I
would
say
that
this
is
at
best
a
five-year
recreational
plan
and
if
we
put
our
just
keep
in
mind
that
in
january,
we'll
be
coming
out
on
the
street
for
a
project
to
do
the
update
the
city's
master
plan-
and
I
want
this
to
be
to
seamlessly
be
part
of
that-
not
in
lieu
of
but
apart,
so
they
need
to
be
integrated
and
they
also
need
to
be.
Unfortunately,
I
wish
I
was.
E
We
had
a
version
of
our
city
capital
plan,
because
that
would
be
the
perfect
time
to
try
to
integrate
the
two
together.
But
since
we
don't,
we
mean
we
may
need
to
amend
or
try
to
merge
the
two
or
make
it
part
of
so
you
may
have
to
you,
know,
amend
or
do
some
changes
yeah,
but
that
that's
the
main,
that's
the
main
comment
I
have,
and
that
will
be
a
lot
of
the
what
the
mayor
indicated.
E
You
know
there
were
a
lot
of
projects
that
were
submitted
to
the
city
or
asked,
but
for
us
to
evaluate
them.
You
know
from
the
court
of
engineers
from
the
feds,
the
county,
the
state,
but
we
wanted
to
do
what's
best
for
us,
so
we
were
going
to
take
our
limited
resources
and
then
put
them
where
they,
where
they
fit
bus.
So
a
capital
program
is
underway,
will
be
coming
out
and
that
five
year
will
have
a
cip
program
and
that
program
will
take
into
account
your
parks,
master
plan.
A
A
All
right,
I
wasn't
sure,
and
then
in
regards
to
your
comments
in
regards
to
us
acquiring
property
for
parks
and
recreation.
The
one
thing
that
I
I
see
in
that
and
I
understand
that
when
you're
talking
about
like
the
incinerator
property.
Of
course,
we
won't
include
that
that
was
just
a
question
I
I
had
because
I
didn't
know
if
that
was
a
possibility,
because
I
know
that's
probably
the
only
large
piece
of
property
left
in
the
south
end.
A
E
Well,
I'll
give
you
an
example,
kim
part
of
what
we're
looking
for.
You
know
we
were
talking
about
the
storm
water
management.
Part
of
what
we're
looking
for
is
retention,
as
opposed
to
you
know,
retention
or
detention
well.
Well,
there.
There
are
some
great
examples
of
of
stormwater
management
retention
plans
being
incorporated
into
a
a
park-like
environment.
E
So
this
is
again,
I
can't
say
for
sure
what
it's
coming
out
until
we
actually
look
and
find
out
so
so
next
year
we
will
be
having
a
storm
water
simulation,
a
program
assimilation
study
that
will
show
me
the
key
points
within
the
city
that
require
that
will
give
me
the
most.
You
know
benefit
for,
to
reduce
my
stormwater
or
to
be
able
to
manage
it.
E
So
that
will
be
the
time
to
say
and
come
back
and
say:
look
you
know
we
have
a
good
location
around
ecourse,
creek
or,
or
you
know,
or
maybe
the
warm
valley.
I
don't
know.
I
just
need
to
to
do
that
and
say:
look,
maybe
we'll
be
able
to
do
this
and
create
a
park-like
environment.
You
know,
crosswind
marsh
was
a
great
example.
It's
still
a
it's!
A
wonderful
park
that
is
an
example
of
how
you
manage
stonewater
system,
so
I
mean
a
lot
of
these.
Things
can
can
merge
and
be
done
together.
E
B
B
The
only
thing
I
would
caution
you
is:
whenever
talking
about
changing
of
land
use,
if
you
ever
acquire
a
property
and
it's
designated
as
recreational
type
property,
you
cannot
divest
yourself
of
that
property,
because
that
is
virtually
the
ultimate.
No,
no,
they
look.
You
know
the
dnr
and
funding
agencies.
Look
at
it
as
a
taking
of
park
property.
A
good
example
of
that
we
had
to
say
we
had
a
community
that
bought.
B
B
So
that's
why
you've
got
to
do.
You've
got
to
look
at
designation
of
property
with
a
very
careful
eye,
and
do
it
very
strategically,
but
I
think
there
are
some
opportunities
there
that
you
can
do
both,
especially
in
the
area
of
stormwater
management
and
recreational
type
of
activities,
but
again
make
sure.
That's
very
strategic
on
how
you
approach
it.
A
C
A
If
not,
I
know
you've
got
a
council
meeting
coming
up
very
quickly.
So
again
you
can
make
written
letters
telling
us
anything
else
that
you
would
like
to
see
added
and
get
those
to
us
within
the
week
and
a
half
I'd
like
to
thank
rick
and
I'd
like
to
thank
everybody
for
attending.
I
think
we're
all
good.
Thank
you.