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From YouTube: 11-5-18 City Council Workshop
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Des Moines City Council Workshop session on Monday, Nov. 5, 2018 in Des Moines, Iowa.
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A
This
is
a
unique
opportunity
for
me
to
maybe
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
CVB
from
from
a
business
perspective,
since
the
company
I
worked
with
ITA
group
does
a
fair
amount
of
business
in
this
space.
If
you
will
so
first
slide
just
very
quickly
just
kind
of
highlights
who
ITA
group
is,
we
are
a
100%
employee-owned
company,
headquartered
here
in
Greater
Des
Moines.
There
are
four
companies
that
are
associated
with
ITA
group.
It's
our
engagement
solution
agency,
which
focuses
on
events,
incentive
and
recognition
programs.
A
Ita
has
a
market
research
firm,
that's
headquartered
out
of
Boston
Chadwick,
Martin
and
Bailey
Talbert.
We
give
our
clients
data-driven
decisions
around
events
and
incentive
programs,
as
well
as
Hardman
studios,
which
is
headquartered
in
San
Francisco.
We
do
big
events
through
them.
For
example,
we
just
ran
the
Oracle
OpenWorld
program
in
San
Francisco
for
60,000
people
through
that
organization
than
international
travel
associates
on
the
event
site.
Ita
group
looked
about
236
programs
and
2017,
we'll
be
updating
our
fiscal
year,
18
numbers
here
soon,
but
we
operate
in
in
multiple
countries.
A
Visitors
bureaus
come
to
Des
Moines,
trying
to
help
us
understand
and
appreciate
why
we
would
want
to
send
an
event
to
whether
it's
Vegas
or
or
Italy,
and
so
many
of
the
things
that
we're
doing
with
the
CVB
is,
is
helping
us
identify
why
we
make
a
recommendation
to
send
a
program
to
a
particular
country
or
location,
and
we
utilize
the
CVB,
because
many
of
these
cities
also
provide
incentives
where
they'll
help
us
market
and
promote
the
destination
to
the
program.
Participants
that
might
be
going
on
that
program.
A
So
I
I
see
tremendous
value
and
what
a
CVB
does
to
to
create
demand
for
events
being
run
in
a
particular
city
and
I.
Just
wanted
to
kind
of
tea
this
up
from
a
perspective
of
we
have
a
company
right
here
in
our
city
that
does
a
fair
amount
of
business
in
space
and
has
great
value
in
the
CVB.
So
with
that
I'll
turn
it
over
to
Greg.
To
give
you
a
report
on
how
we're
measuring
the
impact
that
the
CVB
is
having
or
catch
Des
Moines
here
in
greater
Des
Moines.
B
B
Hotel-Motel
tax
collection
process
would
kind
of
design
this
new
way
to
help.
People
really
understand
a
little
bit
better
where
the
taxes,
how
the
taxes
work,
the
people
obviously
travel
to
Greater
Des
Moines
and
they
spend
dollars
on
shopping,
entertainment,
sporting
events,
etc.
They
stay
overnight
in
a
hotel
when
they
check
out
they
pay
both
the
hotel-motel
tax
and
the
sales
tax.
The
hotel
then
writes
the
check
to
the
state
of
Iowa.
B
We
still
see
growth
in
West,
Des,
Moines,
Ankeny,
Altoona
and
Urbandale
in
particular,
but
you
can
also
note
that
our
budget
has
increased.
You
know,
especially
over
the
past
five
years,
we're
kind
of
seeing
a
leveling
off,
though.
As
far
as
our
budget
goes
this
year
we
actually
budgeted
a
just
a
three
percent
growth
in
hotel-motel
tax.
B
Our
board
about
two
years
ago
set
up
a
new
policy
regarding
our
reserve
funds,
and
following
this
year's
audit,
we
were
able
to
totally
fund
our
reserve
fund.
Total
reserve
fund
is
22
percent
of
our
overall
budget.
Five
percent
is
put
away
for
future
bid
incentives
so
to
be
used
for
maybe
an
emergency
situation.
Last
year,
for
instance,
we
were
able
to
book
us
a
track
and
field
championships
on
a
short-term
basis.
B
We
had
bid
fees
to
the
fifty
thousand
dollar
range
plus
other
expenses
and
sponsorships,
and
things
like
that,
and
we
were
able
to
utilize
those
future
fitting
sentence
for
things
like
that.
Our
operating
reserves
are
at
seventeen
percent
of
our
total
budget,
so
22
percent
of
our
total
budget
is
in
a
reserve
account.
B
Our
partners
are
very
important
to
us
within
the
I'll.
Show
you
that
slide.
In
a
little
bit,
we
have
nine
hundred
fifty
seven
total
partners
throughout
the
Metro.
We
have
almost
100
percent
retention
rate
of
those
partners,
which
says
a
lot
that
they
believe
in
us
and
those
range
from
everything
from
Hotel
your's.
Restaurants
attractions
to
the
large
corporations
throughout
the
Metro,
as
well
just
a
quick
sampling
of
some
of
the
digital
ads
that
will
be
running.
B
Actually,
this
holiday
season,
you
see,
have
a
blast
which
promotes
the
shopping
in
the
metro
area,
principal
Charity
Classic.
These
are
all
co-op
ads.
These
companies
or
organizations
have
also
partnered
with
us
in
these
ads
and,
of
course,
the
science
center
of
Iowa
our
five
year
sales
bookings
synopsis
can
show.
You
will
show
you
that
our
sales
bookings
grow.
Have
grown
by
nineteen
percent
versus
hotel
in
the
tour
it
growing
at
16
percent
soar
we're
ahead
of
the
wave
there
I'm
very
proud
of
that
as
well.
B
We
go
back
to
a
five-year
investment
and
our
budget
roughly.
If
you
take
a
fire.
Five
million
dollar
budget
average
for
the
last
five
years,
equals
twenty
five
million
dollars,
so
we've
utilized
in
marketing
we've
booked.
Thirteen
hundred
and
eighty
eight
again
meetings
convention,
sporting
events,
which
have
an
economic
impact
of
over
five
hundred
million
dollars
back
into
the
economy,
and
these
numbers
just
include
our
group
business
that
we're
doing
does
not
quantify
anything
on
their
leisure
tourism
side
that
we
also
put
a
lot
of
money
towards
luring
those
visitors
as
well
year-to-year.
B
Compare
our
year-end
comparison.
We
actually
either
booked
or
hosted
this
past
year,
seven
hundred
fifteen
different
conventions
and
events.
Two
hundred
and
ninety
six
of
those
occurred
because
of
our
direct
sales
efforts,
creating
an
economic
impact
of
over
seventy
eight
million
and
three
hundred
and
two
events
were
booked
into
future
years.
Creating
an
additional
economic
impact
of
one
hundred
and
ten
million
dollars.
B
We
also
keep
a
close
eye
on
our
competition
out
there,
what
they're
doing
their
budget
size,
staffs,
hotel-motel,
tax,
etc.
You'll
see
on
this
chart
that
we're
at
the
bottom
and
at
least
of
our
total
budget
in
comparison
to
our
competitive
cities.
You
may
note
that
Omaha
and
Oklahoma
City
full-time
employees
are
lower
than
us.
Omaha
is
a
city
agencies,
so
they
don't
have
expense
or
personnel
regarding
finance
and
some
of
their
admin
people
and
what
have
you
kind
of
the
same
story
with
Oklahoma
City
they're
part
of
their
chamber
there?
B
So
again,
they
don't
have
finance
admin
and
support
staff
in
that
in
those
roles
as
well.
Our
pace
report
is
a
report
that
we
share,
with
our
hotels,
really
on
any
daily
basis.
They
have
accessed
this.
They
have
access
to
this
report
and
we're
proud
of
this
report
currently
because
of
our
pace.
This
year
is
125
percent
above
what
our
pace
should
be
and
looking
at
next
year,
we're
a
hundred
and
four
percent
above
pace.
B
Looking
at
our
competitive
City,
set,
which
we
look
at
Madison,
Oklahoma
City
in
Omaha
in
this
particular
set
we're
ahead
of
them
both
for
this
year
and
pace
and
next
year,
we're
quite
a
bit
ahead
of
them,
which
is
somewhat
of
a
red
flag,
because
they're
gonna
be
a
lot
more
competitive
and
a
lot
more
cognizant
of
a
room
rates
and
a
little
bit
more
aggressive
going
after
that
short
term
business
next
year.
So
we've
got
to
be
cautious
in
in
strategic
on
how
we
market
to
sell
next
year
staff
sizes.
B
Our
tourism
effects
obviously
creates
a
strong
economy,
creates
more
jobs,
US
Travel
Association
estimates
there's
about
18,000
jobs.
Now
in
the
Metro
that
are
directly
related
to
the
tourism
industry,
it
obviously
boosts
City,
prestige,
civic
pride,
media
attention,
new
opportunities,
quality
of
life
and
attracts
and
retains
talent
to
our
communities
and
our
corporate
businesses.
Here
this
was
a
new
stat.
C
B
B
B
It
doesn't
look
like
it's
gonna
run
I'll,
send
this
back
to
you
in
a
PowerPoint,
and
you
guys
can
confuse
this
about
a
minute
long.
It's
what
we're
calling
our
new
relevancy
video
talks
about,
really
people
that
what
we
affect
by
bringing
in
the
people
that
we
do
and
the
different
things
that
we
do
to
obviously
boost
the
economy
here
in
in
the
metro.
We've
also
unveiled
this
year.
Our
strategic
plan
for
the
next
three
years,
which
is
basically
three
pillars,
advance
the
catch
des
moines
relevancy,
and
you
can
see
under
that.
B
We
want
to
continue
to
be
a
leader
in
the
region
involved
involved.
In
all
conversations
regarding
destination
development,
we've
been
very
actively
involved.
The
skate
park
project
we're
very
actively
involved
in
water,
Trails
project
and
many
other
projects
around.
The
Metro
obviously
will
continue
to
market
greater
Des
Moines
it's
a
tourist
destination,
promote
tourism
is
a
major
industry
within
Greater,
Des
Moines
as
well.
Plus.
We
want
to
enhance
the
visitor
experience.
B
We
want
to
extend
the
visitor
stay
or
have
them
consider
a
return
visit,
obviously
very
important
to
us
and
provide
a
great
visitor
experience
while
they
are
here
and
then
bottom
line
increase
economic
impact
to
continue
to
strategically
lure
conventions,
meetings,
sporting
events
and
leisure
travelers.
The
metro
area
this
year
is
gonna
be
exciting
year
for
us
too,
across
the
country
really
across
the
world,
many
CVB's
are
embarking
on
what
they're
calling
a
tourism
master
plan,
a
futures
plan
and
we've
just
identified
the
company.
B
We
we
reached
out
to
seven
different
organizations
for
RFPs,
and
we
selected
that
organization
just
last
week
and
they
will
begin
a
master
plan
of
the
whole
metro
area.
They'll
do
an
inventory
of
existing
amenities
that
play
a
big
role
in
attracting
visitors
to
the
metro,
they're
going
to
do
an
inventory
of
planned
future
amenities,
I'm
sure,
including
the
County
Soccer
Plock
Complex,
that's
under
under
its
study
right
now,
they're
gonna
study.
All
the
rest
of
the
area,
infrastructure
they'll,
do
comparisons
with
similar
destinations
to
us.
B
What
industry
changes
are
down
the
road
and,
of
course,
doing
a
SWOT
analysis
as
well
a
lot
more
information
to
come.
So
this
is
going
to
be
a
really
neat
kind
of
create
a
new
footprint
for
us
in
looking
at
the
future
of
what
our
industry
looks
like
in
the
metro
area,
you
also
have
in
front
of
you
a
one
sheeter
that
we've
done
for
just
the
City
of
Des
Moines,
we're
doing
this
actually
for
every
city
to
show
you
specific
numbers
that
we've
done
in
bookings
this
past
year.
C
B
Over
456
media
stories
across
the
country
this
last
year
and
then
the
far
right
column
is
a
recent
hotel-motel
survey
that
we
did
throughout
the
metro,
which
really
shows
you.
Some
good
results
shows
you
how
the
hotels
do
value,
what
we
do
for
them
and
some
of
their
comments
as
well
and
on
that
I
will
take
any
questions.
Comments.
E
B
Think
if
it's
based
on
the
current
demand,
so
we've
built
a
lot
more
hotels
in
the
metro
area.
Some
demand
has
especially
on
the
corporate
side.
Corporate
really
dictates
a
lot
of
what
happens
in
hotel
occupancy
throughout
the
Metro.
So
there
isn't
really
an
any
new
corporate
generators
in
town.
You
know
the
the
big
corporations,
the
principals
Wells
Fargo's
nationwide-
cetera,
really
drives
so
much
of
that
business
and
not
that
their
business
is
flat.
But
there's
so
much
more
inventory.
B
C
B
F
I
also
just
don't
want
to
minimize
the
fact
that
in
in
you
know
a
five
year
period,
we've
increased
revenues
through
hotel-motel
dollars
by
25
percent,
I
mean
I,
that's
a
that's,
a
a
really
really
good,
clip
and
I.
Think
probably
few
communities
have
have
been
able
to
generate
that
kind
of
increase.
It's
just
that
when
you
inject
a
whole
bunch
more
rooms,
it's
going
to
control
price
for
a
while
it
happened
five
years
ago,
and
it's
it's
happening
again,
but
that
this
that
these
are
all
good
numbers,
but
it
is
I
mean.
F
E
E
B
F
B
Say
we
can
send
you
specific
reports
for
Des
Moines?
We
get
weekly
reports
from
an
agency
called
star,
Smith
Travel
Research
data,
which
really
does
hotel
occupancy
rep
our
info
across
the
country
and-
and
we
can
send
you
at
any
time
anything
you
may
need
which
we
utilize-
that
all
the
time
for
to
watch
things
like
when
world
pork
Expo
is
in
town.
How
much
that
impacted
the
entire
metro
area
and
we
can
see
specifically
how
it
impacted.
We
know
an
impact
at
Des
Moines.
B
E
And
I
think
you
should
something
with
our
staff
in
the
past,
but
it's
been
a
while
since
I've
looked
at
those
numbers,
I
mean
the
the
main
questions
that
that
I
have,
particularly
in
terms
of
the
amount
of
hotels.
I,
know
we're
gonna
have
a
couple
more
coming
to
us
and
and
I'm
at
the
point.
Where
I've
got
questions
about
you
know,
do
we
take
the
foot
off
the
gas
in
terms
of
providing
incentives
to
build
hotels?
B
I
can
assure
you
that
the
economic
development
team
here
we've
worked
very
closely
with
them,
particularly
over
the
last
couple
of
years,
where
we've
seen
all
this
hotel,
growth
and
I
think
they're
very
cautious.
They
I
mean
they
get
a
lot
of
numbers
from
us
and
a
lot
of
info
on
that
as
well,
because.
G
E
E
B
I
think
number
one:
it's
a
it's
too
early
to
really
look
at
their
occupancy,
because
they're
gonna
be
like
a
roller
coaster
because
of
the
newness
but
they're
selling
their
first
year,
yeah
yeah,
but
we've
we
have
actually
booked
I,
want
to
say
26
new
conventions
and
meetings
into
that
hotel
over
the
next,
probably
in
the
next
five
years.
So
far,
most
all
of
those
groups
are
groups
that
have
never
been
here
before.
They
said
they
would
not
come
here
unless
we
had
a
headquarter
hotel,
so
they
had
aspect.
E
B
We're
we're
just
beginning,
you
know
the
hotel
just
opened
in
March,
so
but
obviously
we've
been
marketing
and
selling
that
before
they
open
the
doors,
20
we're
not
done
with
26
trust
me
and
I.
Don't
know
that!
That's
you
know
anything
to
raise
the
raise
the
flag
about
right
now,
but
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
different
things.
B
H
Manager
just
kind
of
add-on
to
a
council
member
man
I'm
almost
talking
about
we
heard
four
years
prior
to
the
the
hotel
that
that
was
the
one
thing
that
the
CVB
would
like
to
see.
The
community
do.
What's
the
next
thing
that
the
city
could
do
to
help
your
business
help
grow
the
visit
Visitors
Bureau,
the
numbers.
Have
you
thought
about
that?
What.
B
Well,
I
think
I
think
anytime.
We
improve
the
infrastructure
of
what
we
have
here.
You
know
even
little
things
the
skatepark
will
will
not
have
a
huge
impact
on
our
industry,
but
it'll
have
an
impact.
I
mean
it's
going
to
allow
us
to
go
after
some
USA
skateboarding
events,
some
ban
events
and
all
these
different
amateur
skateboarding
events
I.
Think
the
the
huge
thing
is
going
to
be.
B
The
water
trails,
which
you
know
I
know,
is
a
really
a
long
range
project,
but
that
that
would
really
I
think
changed
the
face
of
of
tourism
in
this
metro
area.
I
think
what
you're
doing
looking
at
the
County
Soccer
Complex
the
potential
there.
All
those
kinds
of
things
will
really
help
us.
You
know
Sports,
as
you
all
know,
has
been
a
huge
feather
in
our
cap
over
the
last
you
know,
10
years
or
so
a
lot
due
to
the
complexes
you
all
have
in
the
city.
B
We
are
now
seeing
competition
out
there
in
in
Overland
Park
in
Texas,
in
Ohio,
in
Illinois,
where
these
complexes
have
20
to
26
soccer
fields.
In
one
place
you
know
we
recently
lost
our
bid
on
the
USA
USA
Youth
Soccer
Association-
that
we've
hosted
multiple
time
in
this
community,
but
we
always
had
to
split
their
tournament
between
two
different
venues,
one
here
and
one
in
West,
Des
Moines.
So
you
know
the
more
we
can
add
to
infrastructure
stuff
like
that.
I
think
is,
is
always
a
good
thing
as
well.
So
I.
H
B
H
So
the
total
paid
might
look
just
slightly
different,
so
we'll
provide
that
as
well.
I
think,
there's
a
report
that
you
would
also
sometimes
talk
about
again
back
to
the
hotel
that
that
was
oftentimes.
The
number
one
reason
that
events
would
not
come
to
Des
Moines
I'll
be
curious.
What
your
data
is
showing
now
moving
forward
is
what
is
the
top
one
or
two
items
when
we
first,
when
you
lose
those
anesthetic
immunities?
H
H
E
If
you
were
here
in
front
of
us
three
years
ago,
and
these
numbers
are
on
trapped
with
what
what
we
were
hoping
to
accomplish
or
if
they're
not
and
I'd
appreciate
some
help
in
and
being
able
to
evaluate
that
the
the
best
way
that
I
know
how
to
do.
That
is
going
forward
and
I
like
to
have
a
sense
of
what
we
thinks
we
can
accomplish
in
the
next
five
years.
And
what
success
would
look
like
and
I.
E
F
The
one
done
great
I,
completely
agree
and
I
think
I
think
the
CVB
board
and
Greg
and
his
team
want
to
sell
it.
There
really
are
two
owners
of
the
hotel,
though
us
in
the
county.
The
CVB,
you
know,
isn't
part
of
the
the
ownership
and
they're
the
the
Hilton.
You
know
as
the
one
of
the
owners
of
the
hotel.
We
have
our
own
marketing
staff
and
sales
staff
and
and
we
ought
to
be
working
with
them
first
and
foremost
in
the
CVB
to
back
them
up
for
larger
regional
phones.
B
G
F
Will
will
provide
any
information
you
want.
I
I
serve
on
the
board
and
I
I
think
this
is
as
positive
of
a
report
as
we've
had
in
a
long
time.
Things
are
really
well
remember
for
every
$2
of
revenue
that
the
CVB
generates
for
the
CVB.
They
generate
$5
of
revenue
for
the
city
and
our
general
fund.
Some
of
that
we
choose
to
spend
on
bravo,
but
that
that's
our
decision.
F
B
One,
this
has
been
a
strong,
a
strong
year,
strong
booking
year,
yeah.
If
it
will
fluctuate.
You
know
every
year,
though
our
board,
we
go
to
our
board
with
our
overall
objectives,
one
of
them
being
our
sales
goals
and
I
will
guarantee
you
that
our
board
has
never
said
no
go
ahead
and
remain
flat.
This
year,.
A
B
Is
always
increase
in
that
and
we
generally
always
meet
or
exceed
those
goals
as
well,
so
yeah
I
think
back
to
councilmen
some
question
I
mean
this
is
one
way
we
benchmark
ourselves
in
in
our
bookings,
and
this
is
done
by
a
neutral
organization.
Ease
are
not
powered.
We
we
provide
the
numbers
to
an
organization
that
provides
a
tap
report,
which
is
tourism,
analysis
projections
and
they
put
all
these
numbers
together.
So
you
know,
according
to
this,
our
basis
is
strong.
Yeah.
F
D
It
was
sort
of
interesting
to
listen
to
what
they
you
know
got
out
of
their
experience
here
in
Des
Moines
over
this
last
week
and
all
the
things
that
they
talked
about
were
arts
and
culture
that
they
experienced
in
how
amazed
they
were
at
some
of
that
and,
of
course,
that's
Bravo's
focus.
But
in
the
meantime
you
guys
helped
promote
that.
D
So
it's
sort
of
a
good
partnership
that
you
have
with
them,
that
that
helps
and
I
think
your
your
work
in
in
doing
your
tourism
master
plan
and
all
that
will
help
give
us
input
as
to
how
we
might
suggest
in
these
other
organizations
work
in
the
in
this
metro
area
to
improve
the
the
ability
and
the
experience.
If
you
will
for
all
those
people
that
are
coming
here
for
some
times.
Other
other
issues,
but
they
get
a
chance
to
get
out
and
about
check
why?
Frankly,
it's
interesting
to
listen
to
them.
D
D
Didn't
want
to
pull
out
a
pen
in
front
of
him
start
taking
notes,
but
it
was
sort
of
interesting
to
listen
to
how
people
view
the
opportunity
of
arts
culture
everything
else
here
in
Des,
Moines
and
the
experience.
So
thank
you
for
all
the
work
that
you
do
and
also
interesting
is
those
people
who
came
from
all
over
the
country
were
comparing
Des
Moines
to
the
other
places
that
they
had
been
and
I
got
to
tell
you
at
least
at
the
table
where
I
was
last
night.
D
Maybe
it
was
just
for
my
benefit,
but
they
were
really
saying
this
is
really
the
best
place
we've
been
in
in
a
long
time.
You
guys
have
set
the
curb
and
I
think
they're
going
to
Battle
Creek,
Michigan
or
someplace
like
that
next
year
and
it'll
be
interesting
to
see
how
that
compared,
it
would
be
if
somebody
remembers
Des
Moines
as
a
comparative
to
Battle
Creek,
but
any
rate
good
work.
Thank
you
for
everything
that
you
guys
are
doing
any
other
questions.
Chris,
you
had
one
more
comment
or
something
that's.
F
D
H
This
is
our
first
opportunity
to
come
thanks
for
coming
as
a
full
council
talk
about
the
budget
cycle,
you're
gonna,
hear
about
process,
you're
gonna,
hear
about
timing
and
the
future
meetings
that
we
will
have
lined
up
for.
You
that'll
be
topic
by
topic
so
with
that
actually
I'm,
just
gonna
kick
it
over
to
Bob
finance
director.
H
J
I
got
two
instructions,
one
from
Ben:
it's
all
about
parts
right,
make
sure
you
do
that
and,
secondly,
councilman
great
challenge:
is
there
any
good
things
going
on
as
we
kick
off
the
process
correct,
so
there's
some
things
that
we're
working
on
before
we
launch
this
that
I,
that
that
I
would
caution
you
that
say
it
may
or
may
not
happen,
but
we
feel
pretty
good
at
this
point.
Our
health
insurance
might
be
about
1/10
of
it
was
last
year
and
that
increase
I.
J
Think
our
we're
self-funded
and
I
think
we've
started
to
see
some
changes
in
that
that's
been
very
beneficial.
So
that's
one
of
those
things.
We
hope
that
stands
in
that
place,
but
I
can't
tell
you
what's
gonna
happen
in
the
next
few
months,
but
right
now
it
looks
pretty
good,
so
I
think
that's
good
news.
I
also
think
one
of
the
good
news
things
is
also
you
might
recall
when
the
franchise
fee
thing
came
in
that
two
and
a
half
percent
we
had
to
do.
J
We
were
scheduled
in
2022
to
sell
another
19
million
dollar
bond
because
it
was
anticipated.
Potentially,
we
wouldn't
have
enough
franchise
fees
coming
in
to
make
that
payment.
Today,
as
we
sit
here-
and
hopefully
it
comes
true,
as
we
think
by
the
end
of
this
calendar
year-
that
19
million
out
in
22
will
be
erased,
so
we
think
that's
pretty
cool,
there's
still,
there's
still
France
right,
these
things
to
be
paid
off
and
the
rest
of
it,
but
originally
it
was
like
we're.
J
Gonna
run
out
of
money
and
we're
gonna
have
to
sell
about
19
million
dollar
bond
outs.
I
think
those
are
good
things,
the
other
one
was.
If
things
go
well,
you
might
see
where
we
start.
The
infusion
of
TIF
going
in
the
parking
fund
might
get
less
almost
nothing
in
the
near
future.
Hopefully
if
things
go
well,
that
does
a
lot
of
things
that
puts
the
parking
thing
back
on
it's.
Without
that
infusion
they
can
start
paying
for
maybe
some
of
their
own
improvements
throughout
the
parking
fees
and
things
of
that
nature.
J
So
those
are
pretty
good
things
to
to
kind
of
kick
that
off
right.
That
said,
this
will
be
my
second
year
before
you
guys,
but
by
now
I
mean
I.
Can
joke
with
the
best
of
them,
but
I
think
this
is
the
most
important
things
you
guys
do
during
the
year
and
the
way
that
I
look
at
it.
I'm
not
here
to
sugarcoat
anything
I'm
going
to
tell
you
what
I
see
I
understand
who
and
what
the
manager
does
and
I
understand
what
the
council
does.
K
As
you
can
kind
of
see-
or
here
we've
got
our
anticipated
earlier
four
workshops
and
council
meetings-
we're
gonna,
try
and
do
as
today
we
have
our
kickoff
meeting
there.
Just
kind
of
give
you
guys
a
brief
description
of
what
we're
seeing
and
then
we're
gonna
go
into
kind
of
what
we
seen
before,
where
we've
got
the
enterprise
funds
with
a
solid
waste
and
the
in
the
storm
sewer
and
sanitation's
who
were
coming
in
november/december,
is
going
to
have
at
the
very
beginning.
K
Road
use
road
use,
fund
and
different
things
like
that,
and
then
we're
going
to
come
back
and
kind
of
do
an
overall
and
overall
look
and
changes
in
a
second
secondary
look
at
the
CIP
so
that,
if
anything
changed
over
the
course
of
those
workshops
that
we
go
over
with,
you
will
kind
of
rehire
things
that
are
different
from
what
you've
seen
and
then
the
council
meetings,
where
you'll
actually
approve
the
the
public
notice
for
publish
and
then
hold
the
hearing
and
the
adoption.
So
we
have
those
highlighted
out.
So
you
kind
of
see.
K
What's
coming
on
the
docket
and
Bob
said.
The
other
piece
that
I
was
in
a
cover
is,
if
you
guys
decide
to
go
forward
with
sales
tax,
how
we
would
approach
that
to
try
and
handle
what
we
referred
as
it
guidance
from
the
state
last
year
to
be
able
to
incorporate
a
possible
sales
tax
in
the
state
forms
at
one
time.
What
we're
gonna,
try
and
do
is
we're
going
to
to
complete
the
books
that
you
guys
are
familiar
with
assuming
no
sales
tax.
K
So
this
information
will
be
standalone
if
nothing
goes
forward
with
sales
tax
and
then
there's
going
to
be
a
memo
that
we
put
together,
that
we
try
and
highlight
where
that
different
sales
tax
dollars
would
then
go
so
then
that
way
we
can
actually
have
the
budget
books
and
this
memo
put
together
to
kind
of
show
what
the
state
forms
that
you're
approving
to
go
forward.
That
way,
it's
both
in
court
rated
into
one
state
form,
so
we
won't
have
to
do
a
budget
amendment
unless
the
sales
tax
does
not
happen.
K
If
we
go
forward
with
the
sales
tax
bill
in
March,
so
that's
just
kind
of
a
way
to
incorporate
those
expenses
as
the
special
revenue
fund
in
the
state
forms
and
then
that
way,
if
it
doesn't
happen,
we
can
amend
it
out
that
way,
we
already
have
it
in
the
budget
I
think
last
year
we
just
didn't.
We
were
going
to
do
an
amendment
if
the
sales
tax
passed
that
way,
we
can
kind
of
incorporate
it
right
ahead
of
time
this
year.
E
K
D
Has
been
just
as
a
follow
up
a
sort
of
a
directive
from
the
council
for
the
last
number
of
years
that
we
do
go
out
to
the
community
and
talk
to
him
about
our
budgets
and
get
some
input.
They
hopefully
get
some
understanding
about
what
we're
doing
and
how
we're
doing
it
and
what
our
priorities
are
and
what
last
year
we
did
three
or
four
of
them
and
I
think
that
we
ought
to
continue
that
and.
H
Part
of
that
is
driven
by
what
how
close
to
a
status
quo
budget
we're
looking
at
and
I,
would
tell
you
in
this
cycle
unless
something
changes
in
the
next
four
or
five
weeks.
We
are
looking
at
a
very
much
status
quo
from
an
operational
standpoint,
if,
obviously,
the
more
we
look
at
cuts
and
things
of
that
nature,
the
more
in
public
interaction
we
need
to
have
with
that.
So
in
this,
this
environment,
I,
would
say,
it'd
be
very
status
quo
and
a
couple,
a
couple
of
public
meetings
would
probably
suffice.
Well,.
H
K
K
H
It's
been
difficult
to
get
people
to
come
out.
We've
also
had
exercises
the
budget.
The
budget
area
has
done
a
fabulous
job
as
part
of
that
education
mayor
and
having
different
exercises
for
the
citizens
to
better
understand
the
the
give-and-take
that's
necessary
within
a
budget
process.
So
I
know
they've
been
creative
each
year
and
coming
up
with
different
ways
to
have
those.
J
I
J
You,
through
a
few
things,
the
CIP
process,
the
CIP
process,
I'll
put
it
back
on
us
and
I'll
tell
you.
Hopefully
you
saw
in
the
schedule
in
the
past.
You'd
get
the
CIP
at
the
very
end
of
the
budget,
say
here
it
is.
We
got
to
pass
our
budget,
the
CIP
is
in
there
and
you
really
haven't
had
a
lot
of
time
to
vet.
It
look
at
it
and
see
which
ones
you
like
or
don't
like
in
that
process.
So
what
we're
doing
differently
this
year
is
on
December
3rd.
J
We're
going
to
give
you
where
we're
at
at
that
particular
time
with
the
CIP
and
I
tell
you,
there's
been
a
lot
of
hours
in
that
already
trying
to
get
that
thing
pared
down
and
try
to
right-size
it
to
where
we
think
at
least
we've
identified
the
things
that
you
guys
just
set
out
in
your
strategic
plan
and
things
that
have
been
out
there
for
a
while.
So
the
good
thing
about
this
you'll
get
it
on
December
3rd,
we'll
have
as
many
meetings
as
you
want.
J
Once
you
get
it
or
meet
with
you,
individual
or
whatever
it
was.
If
you
have
questions,
we
challenge
you
guys
some
of
you
to
be
champions
and
things
that
you
see
by
golly.
We
better
do
this
or
there's
things
you
don't
feel
quite
as
comfortable
with
all
those
things
are
going
to
be
helpful.
If
we
choose,
we
need
to
make
some
cuts,
but
it's
almost
two
months
it'll
take
place
between
the
December
3rd
meeting
and
the
January
28th
meeting
a
meeting.
We
have
time
to
kind
of
work
through
that
or
in
the
past.
J
Maybe
you
didn't
have
enough
time
to
get
that
done.
So,
hopefully
you
find
that
beneficial.
The
ripple
effect
that
is,
is
that
by
the
time
we
get
that
we
get
to
the
book
and
you're
comfortable
with
it.
Then
then
staff
can
feel
more
comfortable
moving
forward
on
projects
because
you've
already
vetted
them.
So
we're
not
we're
not
starting
a
project
and
later
finding
out
you
know.
Maybe
we
need
to
look
at
that
again,
so
we
see
a
lot
of
positives
and
doing
it
that
way.
Hopefully,
you
feel
the
same
way.
We.
I
J
We
will
all
right
when
we're
trying
to
determine
what,
how
what
affects
the
tax
rate
and
what
doesn't
so
Scott
has
this
little
scoreboard
how
he
can
kind
of
balance
it
to
see
what
that
looks
like
and
you'll
be
able
to
see
that
later.
So,
absolutely
there's
things
that
you
can
do.
If
you
choke,
we
can't
be
presumptuous.
What
you're,
gonna
do
or
not
do,
but
obviously
we're
allowing
for
we're
providing
for,
should
you
go
forward
with
sales
tax
will
have
a
mechanism
a
place
to
add
things.
I
J
Obviously,
nuts
but
I'll
tell
you,
is
the
the
CIP.
The
rate
will
be
whatever
you
want,
I
mean
whatever
you're
comfortable
with
the
projects
and
and
at
least
last
year
it
was
that
we
would
decrease
our
levy
rates
by
I,
think
60
cents
or
whatever
it
was
so
we'll
have
all
the
40
cents
yeah,
but
we
were
planning
on
get
trying
to
wipe
out
that
increase
as
well.
So
everything
is
possible
at
this
particular
point
and
I'm
sure
you're
gonna
be
hearing
from
Scott
quite
a
bit
as
we
sift
through
and
kind
of
give
you.
J
The
updates
on
and
again
I
will
tell
you
is
that
that
staffs
going
to
beat
with
any
of
you
at
any
given
time.
If
you
think
there's
work
sessions,
you
need
to
just
work
that
through
Scott
to
see
that
so
you
can
see
those
things,
but
we
hope
this
little
bit
longer
process
helps
ever
had
better,
have
a
better
understanding
of
what
we're
trying
to
accomplish
and
then
so,
when
we
get
to
that
point,
we're
ready
to
move
forward.
J
D
J
I
we
all
feel
pretty
good
at
the
end
when
we
get
our
double-a
and
we
get
those
and
we
see
them
how
how
many
people
go
for
it.
But
if
we
don't
keep
certain
ratios
in
that
revenues
to
expenditures
how
much
money
you
have
in
the
bank,
the
willingness
of
the
council
to
understand
when
you
need
to
increase
rates
or
not,
because
that
goes
a
long
ways
when
they're
when
they're
reviewing
us,
those
things
are
all
important
and
and
all
those
that
I
guarantee
you
there's
nobody.
J
Nobody
more
than
me
that
wants
to
bring
increases
back
to
you,
but
I'm
telling
you,
as
I
sit
up
here
today
to
meet
those
ratios
based
on
the
amount
of
projects
we've
added
to
those
enterprise
funds.
You're
going
to
see
an
increase,
you've
already
made
a
decision
with
storm
water.
That's
done,
you've
done
it
for
the
next
buy
it
fight
five
years.
So
that's
that
the
solid
waste
division
you
do
differently,
the
solid
waste
division
you
do
it.
J
You
have
to
have
a
certain
amount
of
working
capital,
I
think
it's
20
percent
of
working
capital
to
be
able
to
meet
our
obligations
of
what
we
said
out
there.
We
are
below
that
20
percent,
so
there
will
be
some
entry
we
talked
to
Scott.
Could
we
hopefully
convince
you
guys
to
give
us
a
couple
years
to
make
up
that
gap
and
not
try
to
do
it
all
at
one
time,
because
it's
probably
about
5%
and
we're
hoping?
J
Maybe
we
can
become
maybe
stair-step
that
and
that's
how
it
looks
today,
the
the
sanitary
probably
about
3%,
to
meet
meet
everything
that
I
just
laid
out
and
what
you
guys
learn
through
the
the
budget
are
through
the
disclosure
process,
you're
going
to
see
it
and
and
I
again,
I
don't
want
and
I
have
again
I
told
you
I'm,
not
gonna,
sugarcoat,
anything
I'm
looking
to
joke,
because
I
know
how
he
feels
about
this
as
well.
I,
don't
know
any
other
way
to
do.
J
It
is
if
we
want
to
keep
our
bond
rating,
but
you
have
to
do
certain
things
and,
as
you
know,
there's
been
a
lot
of
projects
go
through.
Our
stormwater
and
our
sanitary
to
keep
up
with
with
with
rules
and
regulations,
the
EPA
or
just
meet
up
with
all
our
challenges
and
bringing
growth
and
stuff
of
that
nature,
so
most
likely
you're
going
to
see
one
and
I'd.
Rather,
you
know
now
and
become
with
them
less
come
back
later
to
do
that,
on
the
other
end,
I,
don't
see
another
increase
in
the
parking
things.
J
I
think
you
guys
have
already
said
that
so
that's
Enterprise
fun,
we're
not
anticipating.
Seeing
that
that
change.
So
question
is
about
that
and
again
it's
the
lens
of
today,
not
the
lens
of
the
dates
in
there
we're
doing
everything
we
can
to
try
to
find
any
any
places
we
can
to
try
to
limit
what
those
increases
may
have
to
be.
J
The
last
thing
that
I
want
to
talk
to
you
about
is
the
property
tax.
This
won't
be
a
fun
conversation
either
I
think
it
was
I
think
it
was
well
documented
in
the
past
that
the
city,
if
we
stayed
on
the
same
trajectory
you're,
going
to
see
about
a
dollar
50
increase
over
the
next
three
to
five
years,
that
hasn't
gone
away.
This
particular
year,
based
on-
and
this
is
our
this-
is
our
where
we
are
today
primarily
I'm-
talking
about
through
our
CIP
portion-
that's
that's!
J
Okay,
if
we
don't
want
to
increase
their
rate,
thirty
five
cents
or
somewhere
there
of
it,
gives
you
a
chance
now
to
look
at
those
things
and
work
with
your
manager
to
say.
Maybe
these
are
more
important
than
that,
but
really
this
is
only
going
to
work.
If
somebody,
if
somebody
really
champions
things,
that's
a
word,
Scott
keeps
reminding
somebody's
got
to
be
a
champion
of
things
and
I'm
gonna
challenge
you
guys.
If
there's
something
you
really
feel
strongly
about,
tell
Scott
that's
what
it
is
just
make
sure.
J
Though
so
about
every
eighty
thousand
dollars,
but
for
about
every
million
dollars
you
add
it's
it's
a
little
over
opinion.
So
we
look.
You
can
look
at
it
two
ways
that
one
is
the
8080
and
you
know
eighty
thousand,
but
the
other
one
is
effort,
every
million
or
so
you're
gonna
drop
a
penny
or
add
a
penny
or
some
other
militant
projects.
J
F
D
D
Him
so
that's
different
than
paying
as
you
go,
and
you
know
at
least
for
me.
It
makes
me
a
little
uneasy
as
we
keep
adding
debt
and
knowing
how
long
some
of
this
stuff
lasts,
like
we
just
turn
right
around
and
pay
a
whole
bunch
of
interest
on
debt,
I
sort
of
like
the
idea
of
the
pay-as-you-go,
and
hopefully
we're
going
to
do
more.
If
we
do
decide
to
go
with
the
local
option,
local.
J
Option
tax
adds
a
whole
lot
of
different
things
in
the
toolkit
that
that
that
you'll
have
a
chance
to
look
at.
So
the
only
thing
I
want
to
do
is
I
want
to
try
to
look
at
Chris
out
of
the
corner
of
my
eyes.
We
have
developed
what
we
call
the
Coleman
factor.
We
did
put
what
it
would
take
to
to
be
able
to
make
sure
five-year
assets
or
five-year
ten-year
ten
or
twenty
so
we'll
have
it
your
convenience,
we'll
show
you
how
that
works.
We
really
did
call
it
that
to
stay
in
oil.
J
J
C
J
C
C
I
F
F
That
say
it's
unacceptable
is
we're
we're
within
a
couple
of
days
of
it
being
in
the
news
and
the
paper
that
we
already
have
a
looking
at
what
could
be
a
ten
percent
increase
in
assessed
value,
which
is
a
more
primary
factor
of
increased
revenue
for
the
city
than
even
increasing
the
levy
and
and
so
I
guess.
What
I'd
like
to
know
is
not
now
today,
but
what?
What
would
we
anticipate
of
new
revenue
if
we
didn't
increase
the
levy
at
all
the
the
debt
levy
at
all
this
year?
J
F
J
F
J
F
J
Will
get
them,
as
you
know,
you've
already
got
it
for
the
year.
What's
the
year,
the
data
we've
got
at
this
point
and
then
people
get
a
chance
to
say
that's
too
high
or
too
low.
There's
a
lot
of
things
that
happen
between
now
and
we
get
the
data.
Technically,
we
don't
even
get
the
data
for
our
budget
till
January
to
this
now.
So
a
lot
of
things
could
happen.
There's.
J
F
H
If
I
could
just
insert
myself
mayor
just
a
second,
let's
make
sure
we
all
understand
that
when
home's
values
go
up,
that's
a
good
thing,
and
that
is
exactly
what
we
are
trying
to
do
with
revitalizing
our
neighborhoods
I
love
it
now
and
I
also
agree
with
you,
though,
that
we
have
to
be
sensitive
to
what
taxes.
Then
our
residents
have
to
pay
and
that's
why
the
state
government
has
set
up
this
system,
and
it's
been
this
way
for
40
years
or
more,
that
there
are
two
values
for
every
home
and
every
business.
H
There
is
the
market
value,
which
is
doing
quite
well,
showing
large
increases
and
then
there's
a
taxable
valuation
which
is
at
this
point
in
time
about
55
percent
of
that,
and
that
is
the
value
that
then
your
rates
are
applied
against
and
homes
are
actually
taxed
against.
That
is
not
in
the
news.
It
needs
to
be
in
the
news
that
that
lower
valuation
will
not
be
increasing
by
ten
percent.
The
state
law
does
not
allow
that
to
occur.
H
The
state
law
limits
the
growth
on
the
value
that
you
will
be
taxed
against
to
three
percent
growth
annually
statewide
the
nuance
there
is:
it
doesn't
mean
that
every
property
is
going
to
grow
at
3%.
It
just
means
that
the
market
rate
values
have
to
be
accurate
and
that
the
statewide
average
is
3%
on
the
taxable
side,
and
so
we
can.
H
We
can
provide
more
talking
points
and
we
can
definitely
put
pressure
on
the
media
to
better
illustrate
that
that
market
values
are
not
what
you're
taxed
against
and
that
there
are
several
steps
yet
in
the
process
that
the
state
controls
and
the
auditors
County
auditors
work
with
that
reduces
the
valuation
growth
each
year
and
in
fact,
it's
a
two
year
process.
It
does
not
even
occur
every
year.
So
I
think
this
will.
F
F
But
what
you're
not
saying
is
no
one
in
the
city
would
have
more
than
a
3%
increase
in
their
property
taxes.
I
have
every
assessment
and
I
think
I
joined
most
people
in
the
City
of
Des
Moines
that
have
had
significantly
more
than
that.
So
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
get
so
many
talking
points
that
we
bury
people
at
information
that
distorts
the
outcome
that
they
have
at
their
own
house
and
their
own
family
budget.
F
G
E
J
H
Building
equity
in
their
homes
that
will
then
allow
us
to
manage
our
tax
rates
or
better
bring
them
down,
as
opposed
to
having,
frankly,
three
or
four
neighborhoods
that
are
doing
very
well,
but
it
doesn't
change
the
total
amount
such
that
we
can
lower
rates
or
anything
of
that
nature.
We
need
the
whole
city
to
be
lifted.
Joe.
I
I
J
I
I
Two
attacks
Levy
next
this
next
year,
March
I,
was
struggling
to
devote
for
something
like
that.
So
I
need
to
take
a
look
and
see
where
we're
spending
the
money
where
we
need
to
prioritize
where
things
and
really
focus
on
you
know,
hopefully
to
see
where
what
what
the
local
option
can
do
and
what's
the
benefit
for
our
residents.
If
it
is
past.
J
The
Great,
Scott
I
think
you'll
get
it
before
John
I.
Think
we've
got
two
meetings
scheduled
this
week
with
with
their
BRC
with
Scott
and
then
after
that,
I
think
the
plan
is
bring
all
the
directors
in
so
they
can
have
some
input
on
what
projects
that
they
would
prioritize
as
well
so
you'll
see,
this
vetted
is
the
best
that
we
can
and
I
would
hope.
Before
Thanksgiving,
it's
got
what
you
say:
I
don't
want
to
over
promise,
but,
okay,
that.
E
Just
had
one
thing
that
we
got
last
year
that
I
hope
we
get
again
this
year
on
the
road
budget,
I
think
when
Jonathan
came
in.
He
had
those
really
nice
pie
charts
and
it
looked
at
the
looked
at
where
our
roads
were
in
terms
of
quality
and
what
investments
over
time
and
different
levels
of
investment
would
lead
to
in
terms
of
quality
of
the
roads
over
the
long
term.
I
I
would
hope
we
could
get
that
that
particular
piece
updated.