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Plan and Zoning Commission meeting on Thursday, April 4, 2019 in Des Moines, Iowa.
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A
Welcome
to
the
City
of
Des
Moines
planning
mr.
meeting
before-
and
these
are
the
rules
and
procedures
for
the
plan
is
only
me.
The
Planning
Commission
is
generally
an
advisory
body
to
the
City
Council.
The
City
Council
will
hold
a
public
hearing
and
make
a
final
decision
on
all
matters
before
the
Commission
other
than
site
plans
and
subdivision
flats.
Unless
denials
or
conditional
approvals
are
appealed,
please
contact
the
city
clerk
or
the
Community
Development
Department
staff
for
details
on
council
hearings.
A
Applicants
will
be
given
10
minutes
to
present
a
request
proponents,
and
then
opponents
from
the
public
are
then
allowed
to
speak
in
that
order
with
each
speaker
allowed
a
maximum
of
5
minutes.
The
applicant
isn't
allowed
5
minutes
for
rebuttal.
The
hearing
will
then
be
closed
and
the
Commission
will
discuss
and
vote
on
the
issue.
All
comments
are
to
be
germane
to
the
issue
under
consideration
and
speakers
are
to
maintain
a
courteous
manner.
A
Items
listed
on
the
consent
portion
of
the
agenda
will
not
individually
be
discussed
and
will
be
considered
for
approval,
in
accordance
with
the
recommendation
of
the
staff
report
and
less
an
individual
present
or
a
member
of
the
Commission
requested.
The
item
be
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
and
considered
separately
under
the
public
hearing
agenda
and
we'll
go
through
those
one
by
one.
A
The
City
of
Des
Moines
is
pleased
to
provide
accommodations
to
individuals
or
groups
with
disabilities
and
encourages
participation
in
city
government,
assisted
listening
devices
are
available
for
meetings
in
this
room
and
to
better
serve
you
when
possible.
Please
notify
the
city
at
least
3
business
days
in
advance
at
2,
8,
3,
4,
2,
0
9
should
special
accommodations
be
required.
A
Planning
zoning
commission
meetings
are
broadcast
on
media,
cable,
channel,
7.1
or
7.2
for
customers
with
that
service
transportation
for
the
City
of
Des
Moines
meetings
can
be
scheduled
to
and
from
Dart
Central
Station
620
Terry
Street
to
reserve
your
route.
Please
call
dart
on-call
scheduling
at
two
eight
three,
eight
one,
three
six
calls
for
trips
will
be
accepted
up
until
5:00
p.m.
of
the
day.
A
A
A
Item
number
seven
I
believe
by
request
of
the
applicant
can
move
to
consent.
Is
that
correct
is
the
applicant
present
and
is
that
correct?
You'd,
like
you
agree
with
the
items
all
right?
Is
there
anyone?
However,
who
wishes
to
hear
this
item
and
I'll?
Read
it?
It's
a
request
from
m
RI
122
22
located
at
third
33:13
Southwest,
yes,
for
vacation
of
elm
street
from
vacated
South
West
4th
Street
to
Southwest.
Fifth!
Is
there
anyone
who
wishes
to
hear
this
item?
A
Otherwise
it
will
go
to
consent
all
right,
I'm,
saying
that
if
anyone
on
the
Commission
who
wishes
to
hear
this
item,
all
right
is
there
motion
to
move
item
number
seven
to
consent?
Thank
you.
All.
Those
in
favor
of
moving
item
number
seven
toward
consent
agenda.
Please
signify
by
raising
your
hand.
A
Okay,
all
right-
and
it
is
my
understanding-
also
that
item
number
nine,
which
is
a
request
from
have
a
reality
for
review
and
approval
of
a
site
plan,
edits
an
apartment
buildings
under
design
guidelines
for
multiple
family
residential
dwellings,
property
located
at
South
West
7th
to
allow
for
development
of
a
three-story
42
unit.
Multi-Family
residential
dwelling
is
the
applicant
present,
and
is
it
correct
that
you
are
an
agreement
with
staff
recommendations
and
this
item
can
be
moved
to
consent?
All
right?
A
A
B
A
A
Is
there
anyone
in
my
audience
who
wish
to
hear
this
item
saying
that
is
there
anyone
on
the
Commission
who
wishes
to
hear
this
item
write
the
consent
item
number
two
is
a
request
from
River
point:
West
for
review
and
approval
of
a
preliminary
flat
Grayslake
plant
landing
plan
for
property,
located
the
400
block
of
South
West
11th
Street
to
allow
property
to
be
combined
into
a
4.1
acre
development
lot.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
wishes
us
to
move
this
item
from
consent.
A
I,
remember
three
is
a
request
from
first
Midwest
of
iowa
corporation
located
at
12:35
Thomas
Beck
Road
for
vacation
of
irregular
segments
of
the
north
edge
of
Thomas
Beck
Road
adjoining
the
subject
property
to
mitigate
off
street
parking
encroachments.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
wishes
us
to
hear
this
item
all
right?
Seeing
none
is
there
anyone
on
the
Commission
who
wishes
to
remove
this
item
from
consent,
all
right,
so
seeing
none.
A
C
C
Proposed
multi-purpose
event
space
in
the
back
I'll.
Let
them
describe
that
in
greater
detail.
Why?
What
I
want
to
focus
on
really?
Is
the
just
this
individual
point
of
why
we
needed
it
to
remove
it
from
the
consent
agenda
and
just
help
us?
You
know
focus
on
that,
since
that's
the
one
point
that
the
applicant
has
concerns
about
in
our
staff
rec,
we
are
recommending
through
the
item
that
there's
agreement
on
is
condition
number
one,
which
is
a
prohibition
of
uses
that
are
allowed
in
this
c3b
zoning
district.
C
The
item
number
two
is
the
point
that
we
want
to
focus
on,
and
that
is
our
language
of
that
any
development
of
the
site
shall
be
subject
to
the
undergrounding
of
all
overhead
utilities
to
the
maximum
extent
possible,
and
so
today
you
know.
Often
we
see
the
utility
question
come
up
as
site
plan
stage
and
I
think
we're
gonna
see
that
later
tonight,
at
a
site
planned
stage,
but
with
this
being
a
rezoning,
we
do
what
we
can
to
try
to
have
these
kinds
of
issues
and
discussions
at
the
rezoning
stage
up
front.
C
We
put
this
language
in
here.
The
applicant
has
done
some
due
diligence
as
to
the
cost,
and
impact
working
with
mid
am
often
that
doesn't
occur
until
site
plan
stage,
but
they
have
been
doing
that
and
that's
raise
some
red
flags
for
them.
They
also
have
some
obstacles
with
regard
to
working
with
the
railroad
or
trying
to
work
with
the
railroad
that
owns
land
to
the
south
I'm
going
to.
C
Let
them
explain
the
details
of
that
to
you
and
why
they're
asking
the
zoning
condition
to
be
struck
from
the
recommendation
staff
I
we're
recommending
this
I
think
to
us
this
language
leaves
an
open
process
and
that
it
says
maximum
extent
possible.
You
know
we
would
anticipate
that.
We
would
be
looking
at
that
closer
down
down
the
road,
but
I
think
it's
fair
to
have
that
discussion
tonight.
I'll
be
happy
answering
any
questions
for
staff.
D
C
So
often
in
the
downtown,
we're
not
dealing
with
a
zoning
change,
we're
dealing
with
site
plans
and
the
design
guidelines
of
downtown
overlay
design
guidelines
and
the
such,
and
so
we
haven't
had
the
opportunity
really
to
apply
this
language.
I
think
this
is
good
language
moving
forward
on
case-by-case
reasonings.
If,
if
we
are
aware,
you
know
if,
if
you
have
suggestions,
will
that
or
anybody
in
the
Commission
that
we
use
the
language
in
a
different
way
or
not?
C
C
Well,
every
time
every
rezoning
is
the
individual
case,
and
we
make
recommendations
based
off
of
that
I
think
that
it
makes
sense
for
us
to
to
cue
this
up
as
soon
as
possible
in
the
development
process.
That's
what
we're
trying
to
do.
It's
really
piggyback
more
on
the
policy
of
the
site
plan
review
process
in
those
policies
where
we
typically
have
had
that
process
and
we've
come
before
you
with
the
site
plan.
E
E
We
have
a
litany
of
overhead
electric
lines:
the
credit
union
just
to
the
north
here
I
would
note
you
will
see
none
of
their
overhead
electric
lines
along
fifth,
we're
taking
underground
as
part
of
that
development.
I
know
that
does
precede
us,
but
I
know
this
policy
has
been
in
place
for
a
little
while
going
down
on
fifth
looking
south.
You
can
see
this
the
depot
here
building
the
next
overhead
electric
line
is
about
a
hundred
and
twenty
feet,
south
of
our
property.
So
we
have
about
90
feet
of
frontage
on
this
site.
E
So
not
only
would
we
have
to
take
it
underneath
on
our
frontage,
but
we'd
have
to
take
it
down
to
that
next
pole,
which
is
an
additional
120
feet,
so
that
does
recruit
some
real
challenges
to
the
site,
especially
when
considering
the
fact
that
the
property
just
to
the
north
of
us,
which
is
roughly
you,
know,
half
a
block
river
up
to
court.
That
would
remain,
and
there
are
service
drop
lines
that
go
across
fifth
Street
here
to
the
alley
as
the
Ali
continues:
east
and
west.
So
those
are
all
items
that
are
concerned.
E
E
There
is
no
easement
for
those
poles
on
private
property,
so
we've
started
the
process
with
MidAmerican
to
very
nicely
ask
them
to
get
off
private
property,
so
they
will
need
to
deal
with
the
city
as
far
as
removing
those
poles
they've
talked
as
though
they'll
just
put
them
in
the
alley.
I
don't
know
if
the
city's
gonna
support
that
or
not
based
on
this
policy
I
doubt
they
will.
But
that
is
really
an
American
issue.
E
I,
guess
is
the
position
we've
taken
on
that
that
stance,
so
really
their
concern
we've
got
here
is,
is
the
frontage
on
fifth
again,
this
site
has
rather
limited
frontage
on
it.
Part
of
those
discussions
with
the
mid-american
energy
is
the
price
tag,
for
this
is
two
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
dollars,
as
you
guys
know,
Des
Moines,
Heritage
Trust
as
a
non-profit
they're,
not
a
developer
they're,
not
here
with
a
bunch
of
apartments
and
a
bunch
of
rentals
and
a
bunch
of
revenue.
E
So
it's
a
little
bit
different
business
model
than
I
think
you
guys
are
traditionally
used
to
seeing.
So
that
is
something
I
think
we
also
consider
as
a
hardship
to
the
site
when
this
policy
is
trying
to
be
enforced
within
this
project.
So
after
answer,
you
guys
questions,
but
obviously
with
us
being
a
condition
of
zoning.
We
wanted
to
have
this
opportunity
to
have
the
dialogue
and
ask
you
guys
for
your
consideration
on
this
waiver.
A
G
A
H
I
D
D
That's
done
for
this
city
and
another
point
for
me
is
the
fact
that
this
is
an
industrial
area,
or
at
least
it's
by
the
railroad,
and
it
is
an
industrial
area
and,
quite
frankly,
the
fact
that
these
power
poles
are
there
is
kind
of
typical
of
what
an
industrial
area
would
be
in
the
first
place.
And
then
the
final
thing,
to
my
mind,
is
that
working
with
a
railroad
is
a
very
difficult
thing
to
do
so.
D
A
So
it's
been
moved
that
item
number.
The
item
will
read
as
follows:
Part
A
is
the
staff
recommend
that
the
proposed
rezoning
to
c3b
district
be
found,
in
conformance
with
the
plan
des
moines
design,
creating
our
tomorrow
plan
in
Part
B,
which
probably
should
separate
these
right
per
billion
staff
recommends
that
the
subject
property
be
resolved
in
one
light:
industrial
district,
2c,
3b
social
business,
mixed
use,
district
with
subject
to
the
following
conditions,
which
are
outlined
in
number
one:
a
through
L
and
number
two
has
been
delete.
J
A
A
The
action
required
is
a
review
and
approval
of
a
preliminary
flat
airport
industrial
park
flat
three
to
define
twenty
seven
point:
one
two
acre
development
parcel
for
previous
outlets
x
and
y
in
the
airport
industrial
park.
Plat
two
provided
turnaround
right
away
for
scout
trail
and
to
provide
right
away
to
realign
Southwest,
McKinley
and
B
to
remove
and
approve
approval
of
a
site
plan
welding
or
headquarters
in
accordance
with
conditions
of
ordinance
number
five
1515
is
a
15.6
eighteen.
C
C
That
was
our
last
meeting
due
to
holiday
for
spring
break
and
since
that
time,
part
of
the
reason
it
was
continued
was
as
a
commission,
you
asked
the
applicant
to
take
a
pause
and
meet
once
again
with
the
neighbors
and
make
sure
there
weren't
any
additional
things
that
could
be
resolved
to
talk
about
and
they'd
had
some
previous
discussions,
but
there
seemed
like
maybe
there
was
some
new
information
being
presented
last
meeting
so
that
did
occur.
They
met
with
the
with
neighbors
Mike
Ludwig
was
in
attendance,
and
so
we
have
questions
about
that.
C
Specifically,
we
can
certainly
go
into
that
just
to
quickly
remind
everybody
in
your
packet.
You
have
the
site
plan
from
the
last
go-round.
This
is
the
the
south
edge
of
the
property,
so
you
can
see
that
in
highlighted,
fashion
shows
some
of
the
additional
landscaping
berm
features
that
were
discussed
at
the
last
meeting
and
I
won't
go
into
a
lot
of
detail
on
that
just
to
respect
everybody's
time,
and
then
this
is
the
northern
half
of
the
property.
C
Talking
a
little
bit
about
the
storage
area
and
screening
over
here
there's
the
long
landscaped
berm
with
an
easement
along
the
eastern
perimeter,
who's
discussed
at
the
last
meeting
parking
areas
to
the
north
along
63rd,
these
staff.
We
we
appreciate
the
time
that
the
applicant
has
spent
visiting
with
us
and
then
also
with
neighbors
and
making
changes.
We
believe
we're
getting
where
we
need
to
be
on
a
landscaping
buffering
standpoint.
We
still
are
asking
for
the
trail
to
be
installed
with
the
project.
That's
a
point
of
difference
with
applicant.
C
C
Space
30
feet
apart
along
Iowa
Highway
28
to
discuss
that's
the
trail
on
63rd
provision
of
any
rightaway
easement
on
the
preliminary
plat
is
determined
necessary
for
the
future
extension
of
Scott
trail
in
accordance
with
move
DSM
plan.
This
is
move
DSM's.
The
city's
transportation
plan
that
was
was
adopted
relatively
recently,
scalloped
rail.
As
to
the
north,
we've
been
working
with
the
applicants.
K
C
C
And
then
our
last
condition
is
original
landscaping
plan
to
provide
a
moderate
amount
of
base
landscape
material
distributed
around
the
outside
of
the
proposed
fence
storage
area
to
the
would
be
to
the
east
of
the
building.
Additionally,
with
regard
to
neighborhood
input
regarding
the
proposed
southern
screening,
berm
staff
would
consider
substitutions
of
evergreen
species
for
proposed
overstory,
normal
tree's
plantings,
in
accordance
with
the
substitution
allowances
in
the
city's
landscape
standards,
and
so
in
the
body
of
a
report.
C
We
talked
about
their
concern
about
the
different
heights
in
the
need
to
screen
at
different
heights
of
different
plant
materials.
The
landscaping
standard
allows
you
to
substitute
material
types
up
to
30%,
we're
supportive
of
accomplishing
that.
We
just
want
to
make
sure
that
was
put
out
there
so
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
L
So
you
recall
that
this
was
continued
primarily
to
allow
us
to
meet
with
the
neighbors
and
get
some
additional
input.
We've
tried
to
do
that.
I.
Think
we've
made
numerous
modifications
to
the
landscape
plan
and
I
trust.
The
neighbors
will
comment.
I
know
Nick
and
I
have
talked.
There
is
one
illustration
of
some
trees.
That's
now
on
old
McKinley,
they're,
fairly
incidental
in
the
scheme
of
things
and
just
to
kind
of
convey
our
intent
there
is
that
it's
easy
for
us
to
slide
those
trees
up
to
the
north.
I.
L
I'll
put
this:
they
it's
a
fairly
small
little
patch
of
trees
and
I
know.
This
came
up
at
the
neighborhood
meeting
last
Wednesday
I
think
it's
probably
an
oversight
that
we
didn't
get
that
after
a
discussion
Nick
well,
he
recorded
on
the
drawings,
but
the
concept
is
simply
to
move
those
slightly
into
the
median
so
that
he
has
an
option
of
potentially
acquiring
this
piece
of
ground
for
his
drive
so
that
a
minor
accomodation
more
in
the
spirit
of
trying
to
get
along
and
make
sure
things
work.
L
M
So
this
representation
shows
that
we
were
able
to
accommodate
Mike
NAB's
request.
We
modified
the
pond
we're
going
to
bore
the
pipe
underneath.
The
berm
we
were
only
there's
still
is
three
trees
deciduous
trees
on
the
lower
side
of
the
berm.
That
will
be
disturbed
by
the
grading
effort
and
we
are
installing
twelve
trees
in
this
area
right
here
on
the
berm,
eight
of
them
being
coniferous,
three
or
four
of
them
being
deciduous
in
mitigation
of
those
trees.
K
L
L
Compliance
with
item
1,
which
is
permitting
permit
and
review,
is
fine.
I
want
to
clarify
something
that
point:
we've
continued
to
say
we're
supportive
of
the
regional
trail
system.
We
think
it
would
be
a
valuable
amenity
to
our
employees
as
well.
Our
reservation
about,
in
our
request
to
defer
the
trail
construction
is
that
was
a
part
of
a
regional
plan.
Developed
in
last
fall
our
concerns.
Simply
there
hasn't
been
any
plan
or
a
discussion
of
how
that
trail
will
tie
together
along
the
highway
28
segments
or
get
across
the
river.
L
So
from
our
perspective,
maybe
it's
our
engineering
nature's
to
say
it
would
appear
that
there
should
be
some
discussion
with
the
utilities,
Water
Works,
the
other
parties
of
interest
and
the
adjacent
landowners
figure
out
just
exactly
where
is
it
going
to
go?
So
we
can
do
something
with
some
integrity
and
what
we've
offered
to
do
is
either
bond
or
otherwise
assure
the
city
of
our
commitment
to
participate
in
the
process.
It
just
doesn't
to
us
feel
logical
to
construct
a
trail
without
plans.
L
So
it's
not,
as
some
people
have
portrayed
at
a
rejection
of
trail
systems,
were
totally
enthused
about
the
trail,
just
like
planning
and
zoning
to
vote
that
we
can
defer
it
until
a
time
when
there's
something
tangible
to
build
the
there's
another
request
from
staff,
and
this
has
to
do
with
the
right-of-way,
and
we
have
talked
to
staff
this.
The
Scout
Trail
easement,
which.
L
Yeah
that
one's
fine,
we
really
have
no
reservations
about
cooperating
with
the
city
on
that
I've
made
it
clear
to
staff
that
we're
not
particularly
interested
in
building
Scout
rail
or
of
any
assessments
that
might
be
attached
to
that,
because
I
believe
this
came
up
last
week.
It's
not
an
overwhelming
issue
for
us
to
grant
an
easement
for
the
small
shaded
areas.
It's
probably
a
little
more
challenging
ever
deal
with
the
fact
that
that
Road
now
crosses
the
scouts
property
in
virtually
every
segment
and
then
moves
to
Knapp's
property
to
the
east.
L
So
I
would
put
a
qualification
that
it's
not
stated
I
guess
in
the
item,
but
we
are
certainly
willing
to
work
with
staff
on
a
future
roadway
system
as
to
landscaping
of
the
outdoor
storage,
I
think
it's
at
least
we
hoped
it
was
pretty
clear
that
we've
substantially
augmented.
First
of
all,
we've
changed
this.
This
was
a
request
of
staff
in
the
last
session
that
we
replaced
the
outdoor
storage
fence
and
landscaping,
which
was
permitted
by
the
comments
they'd
attached
to
us
originally
asked
us
to
return
to
pnz
at
their
request.
L
We
replaced
the
outdoor
fence
and
landscaping
with
a
10-foot
architectural
metal
panel
system
and
we've
additionally
landscaped
it
as
a
buffer
for
the
East
neighbor.
It
feels
to
us
that
adding
any
edit
landscaping
on,
especially
as
the
grade
falls
behind
it
with
the
berm
and
trees
that
are
there
is
unnecessary.
L
A
F
I'm
Nick
Van
Patten
at
6020,
Southwest,
McKinley,
Avenue
and
I
was
just
going
on
when
we
were
saying
we're
in
talks
here
and
I
was
just
gonna
show
we're
on,
because
everything
was
submitted
by
Chuck
Bishop,
who
I
hired
is
where's
the
Exxon
I'm
trying
to
get
this.
You
see.
Oh
here
we
go
here.
We
go
and.
N
F
Not
the
very
best,
but
here's
my
house
here
and
what
we're
talking
about
is,
like
you
said,
moving
in
the
trees.
This
roadway
I'd
like
to
attain
that
roadway
part
that
right
there
that
they're
gonna
be
taking
out
in
front
of
my
property
moving
those
trees
over
and
that's
what
we're
working
on
and
in
the
and
we've
been
work
with
Ryan
so
forth
with
Walden.
So
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
too.
So
all
right.
O
My
name
is
Walter
Givens
I'm
at
320,
southwest
6th
Street
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
the
bike
trail
that
they're
they're
talking
about
recently,
we
had
a
bike
trail
where
they
made
some
accommodations
and
said
that
they
weren't
going
to
do
something
and
then
they
didn't
so
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
they,
since
we're
giving
them
I,
think
you're
giving
them
some
some
money
to
for
this
relocation
of
the
of
the
whole
site.
We
need
to
make
sure
they
built
that
bike
trails.
O
P
Hi
Amy
Pusan
noona
and
one
five
one:
five:
three
summit
driving
five
I'm,
the
president
of
the
Des
Moines
cycle
club.
Thank
you
for
giving
us
the
opportunity
to
speak
on
behalf
of
the
cycling
community
of
Des
Moines.
We
have
a
very
healthy
community.
We
appreciate
that
they
are
willing
to
put
the
trail
in
in
the
future.
I
understand
their
concerns
about
lack
of
a
current
plan.
P
There
is
no
good
connection
for
bike
trails
or
bike
lanes
north
and
set
north
part
areas
north
of
the
Raccoon
River
and
areas
south
of
the
Raccoon
River
you,
even
if
you
take
bike
trails,
all
the
way
to
downtown
some
of
those
are
underwater
or
have
been
underwater
in
recent
weeks,
and
you
are
not
able
to
access
the
south
side
of
the
Raccoon
River
that
that's.
Our
main
concern
is
that
you
know
there
were
some
misconceptions
due
to
lack
of
information
to
the
cycling
community.
Q
My
name
is
Mike
Knapp
I
live
at
59,
35
Southwest
McKinley
talked
a
few
times.
My
daughter
watch
the
video
and
said
you
repeat
yourself
too
many
times
so
well.
I'm
gonna
try
to
get
through
the
points
and
then
wrap
up.
My
first
concern
is
the
extension
of
Boy
Scout
Trail
I
have
land
to
the
east.
That
I
would
like
to
move
forward
to
development
attempted
to
meet
with
staff
and
try
to
identify
my
preference
is
to
go
residential
development.
Q
There
are
some
hurdles
that
have
to
be
gone
through
in
order
to
accomplish
that
and
I
I
think
it'll
be
kind
of
an
uphill
battle.
Here
is
a
diagram
that
Gerry
Oliver
prepared
for
me
for
the
potential
of
a
residential
development
which
would
include
the
extension
of
Boy
Scout
Trail
on
through
the
north
40.
He
tells
me
that,
in
order
to
have
a
viable
product
for
sale
that
it
that
it
should
be
there,
the.
Q
Q
The
thing
that
I'm
concerned
about
is
that
I
understand
I
would
be
doing
that,
but
how
does
it
ever
get
out
to
highway
28
because
I,
don't
really
I,
can't
foresee
the
Boy
Scouts
having
a
motivation
to
do
it,
and
guy
is
expressed
just
now
that
they
have
no
interest
in
doing
it,
so
I'm
kind
of
wondering
what
the
solution
for
that
is
and
is
the
creation
of
this
new
division
with
the
Boy
Scouts,
actually,
development
that
requires
the
giving
an
easement
and
and
the
bonding.
So
that's.
Q
My
first
concern
is
that
I
don't
want
to
end
up
having
to
as
a
part
of
my
develop
and
build
a
road
that
basically
goes
nowhere.
The
second
piece
is
is
related
to
the
buffering
that
that
is
occurring
between
my
home
and
the
welding
or
project
and
I.
Think
to
put
it
in
the
perspective,
the
yellow
that
you
look
at.
Q
Q
And
now,
if
you
can
zoom
into
this,
but
this
this
is
my
front
porch
with
me
standing
there.
This
is
my
driveway.
These
are
the
trees
that
I
planted.
These
are
the
trees
that
Walden
er
is
intending
to
put
in
the
difference
that
you
don't
realize
immediately.
Is
that
that's
a
man
standing
there
and
I,
don't
know
if
he's
five
feet
or
six
feet,
but
that's
I
think
the
size
of
the
stock
that
has
intended
to
go
there.
Q
That
would
then
immediately
cover
the
overhead
door
as
as
viewed
from
my
front
door,
so
I,
I,
guess
I
would
like
to
see
that
happen
if
it
can,
whether
it's
the
shifting
of
the
the
storage
lot
or
the
addition
of
a
few
feet
of
additional
fence.
That
would
you
know,
obviously
at
some
point
in
time
those
trees
will
give
relief.
The
difficulty
is
its
six-foot
tree
on
a
downhill
slope.
That
is
you.
A
L
I
think
Mike
was
very
good
at
taking
advantage
of
me
while
I
was
sitting
in
that
parking
lot
at
5:00
a.m.
but
I
have
to
admit
that
the
you
know
we
had
a
discussion.
He,
my
consultants,
kind
of
did
remind
me.
There's
a
couple
challenges
for
us
in
there
you
in
moving
stuff
and
one
of
the
challenges,
is
this
outdoor
storage
yard?
If
you,
if
you
draw
a
line
from
the
Boy
Scouts
land
that
we
acquired,
which
is
this
triangle
here-
that's
C
2.
L
So
we've
tried
to
do
the
best
we
can
with
landscaping
effectively.
This
drawing
is,
if
you
can
zoom
in
just
a
little
bit,
I
think
and
why
I
think
Mike's
depiction
of
the
slights
of
lines
of
sight
and
the
plantings
is
accurate.
We
do
have
to
depend
on
trees
to
grow.
We
can
certainly
control
some
of
those
that
are
six
feet
tall
or
eight
feet
tall
or
ten.
L
That
line
of
sight
from
that
he
showed
you
earlier
is
from
this
point
to
the
building
up
here,
and
so
we
have
done
what
we
can
to
try
and
without
moving
this
building
over
or
this
outdoor
storage.
To
make
sure
we've
got
its
dense
of
planning,
both
in
the
berm
and
with
understory
and
infill,
and
certainly
was
tried
to
do
with
Nick.
We
can
try
and
figure
out
how
to
get
those
darn
things
to
be
bigger
and
taller.
L
M
Other
the
other
point
two
is:
we
did
create
a
bench
up
here
on
the
upper
side,
so
there
is
a
pretty
good
gradient
as
Mike
referred
to,
but
then
we
did
widen
the
flattened
area
that
is
adjacent
to
the
concrete
in
order
to
put
those
trees
on.
So
they
are
on
the
highest
side
of
the
slope
in
order
to
protect
that
view
of
those
overhead
doors
additional
to
that
his
his
front
doorstep
is
about
three
and
a
half
football
fields
away.
So
what
isn't
reached?
M
What
isn't
reflected
in
these
line
of
sights
is
the
size
of
things
once
you
get
that
far
away
and
what
that
perspective
looks
like
and
the
size
of
those
ever
had
doors
compared
to
a
six-foot
tree
and
the
mass
of
trees
that
we're
putting
there.
So
it's
just
something
to
you
know
for
the
pnz
council
in
order
to
take
into
account.
L
Then
one
last
thing
I
io
insert'
about
scout
trail,
but
the
reality
is,
we
haven't
had
any
dialogue
at
all
with
the
city
about
scout
trail.
It
came
up
last
week
and
we're
certainly
willing
to
I
think
the
question
would
be
had.
We
not
bought
this
small
triangle
of
ground
from
the
Boy
Scouts.
This
would
all
be
Boy
Scouts
ground
across
which
that
trail
would
have
to
go.
So
it's
going
to
be
something
to
deal
with
with
the
Boy
Scouts
in
any
event,
because
they
own
the
land
we
own,
but
a
small
sliver
of
it.
L
So
our
our
position
was
staff
was
at
the
12th
hour
as
we
try
to
break
ground
on
a
new
building.
It
seemed
unreasonable
to
impose
an
obligation
to
build
Scouts
trail,
which
hadn't
been
part
of
the
process,
so
Mike
I'm
not
really
contending
over
that
I
know.
I
could
see
how
valuable
would
be
to
you,
but
it
is
questionable
at
at
the
12th
hour
and
commit
to
build
a
road
I.
D
D
L
A
I
Yeah,
so,
regarding
scout
trail,
the
council's
already
approved
a
development
agreement
for
this
this
project
and
they
did
not
require
scout
trail
to
be
constructed
as
part
of
that
development
agreement.
The
scout
trail
extension
is
shown
in
the
move,
dsm
transportation
plan
that
the
council
approved
just
in
the
last
six
months.
I
So
we
would
want
to
work
with
those
entities
on
acquisition
of
right-of-way,
either
through
dedication
or
easement
or
like
say,
with
this
plat
or
we'd,
be
asking
for
that
right-of-way
to
be
dedicated,
but
I
I
think
that
you
know
I,
don't
speak
for
the
council
or
future
councils,
but
in
the
discussion
about
the
roadway
network
in
this
area,
without
the
southeast
connector
going
through.
There's
a
study.
That's
going
to
happen
about
these,
these
additional
roadway
networks
that
need
to
be
constructed
in
the
area
and
at
least
in
the
industrial
portions
of
property.
I
Basically,
what
we've
said
to
date
is
that
Industrial
Development
there
might
be
assistance
in
building
the
network
for
industrial
development
because
of
the
tax
generation.
That's
from
it,
I,
don't
believe
there
would
be
TIF
available
for
residential,
and
so
we've
even
discussed
in
the
past
with
mr.
Knapp
that
if
I
know
his
intent
is
for
residential
development,
we
said
if
there
was
industrial
there
would
be
an
opportunity
to
extend
that
urban
renewal
plan
in
the
future
and
possibly
assist
with
some
infrastructure.
I
So
at
this
point
we
feel
comfortable
in
asking
for
an
easement
to
be
dedicated
and
that
there's
there
was
not
an
obligation
on
on
wall
dinners
part
as
part
of
their
development
agreement
with
the
city
to
construct
the
scout
trail,
we're
just
asking
for
the
right-of-way
easement
to
be
dedicated,
and
we
will
piece
together,
right-of-way
and
figure
out
a
plan
for
how
to
get
the
gap
constructed
just
like
we
do
all
over
the
city
when
there
are
gaps.
So
thank
you.
A
H
I'll
move
staff,
as
I
said
in
the
last
one
I
think
it
makes
sense
to
build
the
the
bike
trail
I
feel
like.
If
we
don't
put
these
things
in
when
we're
doing
the
redevelopment,
then
the
next
one
down
the
down
the
line
will
just
point
out
and
say:
there's
no
trail
there.
Why
do
we
have
to
put
it
and
eventually
you?
H
Never
you
never
get
it
built
so
and
I
think
this
is
actually
an
important
place
for
a
trail,
because
it
does
provide
connectivity
it
it
isn't
just
sort
of
out
and
though
nowhere
it
provides
connectivity
at
least
to
some
extent
and
it's
on
the
side
of
a
relatively
busy
road
that
people
bike
on,
and
so
it
provides
safety
as
well.
So
that's
why
I'm
moving
staff
without
removing
Bridgette
Priven
for
all.
A
Right,
so
the
motion
is
Parts.
A
and
B
staff
recommends
approval
of
the
submitted
community
plan
and
site
plan
subject
to
compliance.
What
the
following
conducive
compliance
with
all
administrative
review
comments
by
the
Development
Center
provision
of
a
note
on
the
site
plan
to
specify
the
minimum
twenty
two
gauge
thickness
metal
for
any
metal
panels
and
that
landscaping,
hearing
and
Bullards
are
required
where
metal
panel
materials
located
less
than
four
feet.
A
The
grade
number
three
was
the
provision
of
the
template
trail
and
the
tree
street
landscaping
spaced
every
30
feet
along
highway,
28
frontage
of
the
property,
as
is
described
in
the
move
des
moines
plan,
and
provision
of
any
right
away.
Easement
on
the
preliminary
plat
is
determined
necessary
for
future
extension
of
scout
trail
in
accordance
with
move
des
moines
plan
and
number
five
was
a
revision
of
the
landscaping
plan
to
provide
a
moderate
amount
of
base
landscaping
material
distributed
around
the
outside
of
the
proposed
fenced
outdoor
storage
area
and,
additionally,
was
regard
to
the
neighborhood.
A
But
regarding
the
proposed
southern
screening
burn
staff
request
considered
substitutions
of
evergreen
species
for
proposed
overstory
and
ornamental
tree
plantings
in
accordance
with
substitution
allowances
in
the
approved
landscaping
standards
and
the
site
planned
policies.
Are
there
any
questions
about
the
like
to
offer
a.
B
Friendly
a
minute
for
you
to
consider
if
number
three
could
be
revised
to
set
a
bond
to
do
trail
also
with
a
trigger
and
I,
don't
know
if
I'm
setting
a
precedent,
but
some
kind
of
trigger
that,
when
the
first
property
on
that
side
of
the
road
was
hired
to
do
one
that
that
would
kick
in
at
that
time,
but
they
would
need
to
do
it
at
that
time.
I
know.
H
S
Maybe
comment,
surely
I
mean
just
for
the
purpose
of
the
audience
that
you
know
these
strategic
plans
plan
DSM
move.
You
know,
move
DSM,
we've
been
this
kind
of
conversation
we
had
about
sidewalks.
You
know
that's
what's
coming
to
my
mind,
so
you
know
we're
really
trying
to
connect
the
city
both
with
sidewalks
and
bike
trails
and
so
I.
Think.
That's
why
it's
important
and
it
is
easy
to
put
that
off
and
we
really
are
trying
to
stand
strong
and
and
bent
so
everybody
benefits.
So
thank.
N
A
A
Alright,
thank
you
and
we're
ready
for
a
head
of
number
six.
This
is
a
request
from
all
lines:
hades
painting
to
appeal
an
administrative
denial
of
a
site
plan
outlines
painting
on
property,
located
at
fifteen
twenty
four
Vermont
Street
to
allow
development
of
a
four
thousand
two
hundred
and
thirty
square
foot,
industrial
building
with
paved
off-street
parking
and
loading,
the
developers
of
killing
the
requirements
of
the
installation
for
installation
of
a
five
foot
wide
public
sidewalk
go
Jim
along
with
the
joining
Vermont
Street.
With
the
project
chair.
C
North
of
university
east,
a
second
avenue
central
place,
then
the
site
sketch
would
been
included
in
your
packet
with
some
additional
information
showing
the
general
configuration
of
the
site,
I,
really
just
straightforward.
This
is
really.
This
is
administrative
site
plan
we're
here,
because
there
was
a
denial
at
the
staff
level.
They're
appealing
your
decision.
There's
a
process
in
the
ordinance
to
allow
for
appeals
of
administrative
decisions.
It
requires
at
least
eight
commissioners
to
vote
in
favor
of
overturning
an
administrative
decision.
We've
talked
about
move
DSM.
C
C
It
identifies
a
lot
of
different
things,
but
what's
specific
to
this
site
is
priority
sidewalks
and
the
council
directive.
As
part
of
that
plans
adoption,
the
staff
should
not
be
waiving
sidewalk
requirements
for
priority
one
and
two
sidewalks
as
identified
within
that
plan.
This
is
a
priority
to
sidewalk,
and
so
we
are
not
willing
to
staff
to
we're
here
to
follow
the
policy
that's
been
adopted
for
us
by
council,
so
we
are
recommending
that
you
deny
the
waiver
request
that
the
sidewalk
not
be
installed.
We
do
have
some
language.
C
C
And
essence
where
the
I
think
the
thing
that
looked
at
the
most
would
be
number
two
about
the
required,
the
sidewalk
by
May
3rd
of
2021,
but
happy
answer
any
questions.
What
was
the
second
point
exactly
that?
Okay,
that
should
you
be
inclined
should,
should
the
Commission
be
inclined
to
grant
the
deferral
staff
would
recommend
the
deferral
be
subject
to
the
following:
the
the
provision
of
a
five
foot
public
sidewalk
along
the
entire
length
of
the
street
frontage.
C
N
N
C
C
A
D
A
Thank
you
all
right.
This
motion.
We
approve
staff
recommendation
for
denial
of
the
site
plan
based
on
finding
that
the
waiver
of
a
priority
level,
2
sidewalk,
is
contradictory
to
the
implementation
of
move
des
moines,
which
is
our
city's
transportation
master
plan.
All
those
in
favor
of
that
motion
please
signify
by
raising
your
hand.
A
Space
rental
within
the
existing
gymnasium,
small
and
large
auditoriums
and
within
additional
areas
of
the
building.
A
thirty
guestroom
boutique
hotel,
professional
office
and
retail
space,
a
restaurant
without
door,
seating
and
detached
accessory
kitchen
up
to
five
separate
taverns,
a
craft
brewery
with
production
for
on-site
consumption
and
a
pop-up
screen.
Drive-In
theater
for
periodic
use
within
the
existing
North
off
street
parking
lot.
I,
don't
think
I've
ever
read
that
one.
C
History
tonight,
chair
members,
question
Jason,
Van,
Ness
and
city
planning
staff.
Before
I
get
started
the
presentation
we
were
a
little
late
and
getting
the
sign-out
sheet
up
so
I
know
we
have
black
folks
that
are
here
tonight
and
interest
in
this
item
and
I
just
want
to
convey
that
it
helps
us
we're
required
to
track
speakers
for
the
public
record.
So
if
they
could
sign
in
before
they
speak,
you
can
do
so
at
any
point
can
be
after
you
speak.
C
It
just
helps
us
make
sure
that
we're
spelling
your
name
right
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
I
appreciate
people's
help,
the
aerial
showing
the
subject
property
as
before
you
on
the
screen.
It's
on
the
northwest
corner
of
Franklin
and
48th
Street,
it's
been
a
school.
Originally,
it's
been
a
church,
it's
been
a
religious
school
over
the
years
and
we've
talked
about
talked
about
that
in
the
plan
or
excuse
me
in
the
in
the
staff
report
and
I'm
sure
the
applicant
will
talk
about
a
little
bit
more
tonight
as
well.
C
This
is
the
response
map
their
response
cards
emails
letters
are
being
passed
around
to
you.
This
map
is
for
us
to
track
responses
within
that
200
to
250
foot
radius.
That's
highlighted
there.
I
just
want
to
assure
everybody
that
all
the
communication
that
we've
received
is
actually
being
passed
around
to
you,
but
for
the
purposes
of
tracking
the
state-mandated
notice
process
and
and
tracking
the
for
and
against
that's
what
this
map
is
for.
So
it's
not
not
to
diminish
any
other
input
that
we
received.
I
just
want
to
clarify
that.
C
This
is
the
building
the
would
be
the
south
and
east
corner
looking
up
48th
Street.
This
is
at
the
north
end
of
the
property,
so
48th
Street
is
on
this
side.
Looking
back
into
the
parking
lot
to
the
south
towards
the
building
that
same
general
location
in
the
northern
parking
lot,
looking
westward
towards
the
apartment
complex
to
the
West.
C
C
Western
end
of
the
property
and
then
the
49th
Street
this
is
so.
This
is
the
west
edge
of
the
property
just
quickly
kind
of
back
in
this
area,
around
the
edge
of
the
apartments
and
the
park
to
the
north
and
then
looking
back
into
the
site.
I,
usually
try
not
to
show
that
many
pictures,
but
it's
a
big
site,
so
I
thought
it
was
important
to
do
so
to
break
this
up
and
for
us
to
think
about
what
it
is
we're
doing.
C
Tonight,
I'm
gonna
talk
first
about
the
city's
comprehensive
plan
because
parts
a
and
B
of
the
requested
actions
refer
to
that
and
so
I
think
it'd
be
best
to
cover
that
and
then
get
into
a
little
more
of
the
details
of
the
project.
Specific.
So
as
noted
in
the
agenda,
we
are
recommending
staff
that
this,
the
future
land
use
map
designation,
be
changed
from
neighborhood
mixed-use
within
a
neighborhood
node
to
community
mixed-use
within
a
neighborhood
node.
C
So
it
does
require
a
staff,
a
change
on
that
destination.
It
is
one
thing
that
we
did
know.
The
staff
report
is
that
it
is
in
a
node
and
the
other
thing
that
we
look
at
you
know
somewhat
so
often
we're
here.
We
talked
specifically
about
the
map
and
what
the
shade
of
the
color
and
what
that
correlates
to
on
the
future
land
use
map,
which
is
just
really
one
component
of
the
city's
comprehensive
plan.
C
It's
you
know,
so
it's
a
booklet
level
document
with
a
lot
of
different
goals
that
are
written,
written
or
text,
verbal
kind
of
goals,
less
graphic
in
nature,
and
so
we
also
look
at
those
and
when
we
write
the
staff
recommendation
and
evaluate
changes
to
the
future
land
use
map
and
then
also
rezoning
request,
and
so
in
the
staff
report.
We'd
identify
some
goals
that
we
believe
support.
The
proposed
change
to
the
future
land
use
map
and
I
won't
read
all
of
them.
C
Lanius
cohorts
continue
to
embrace
the
distinct
character
of
Des
Moines
neighborhoods
by
allowing
for
new
development
redevelopment
talking
about
underneath
that
just
quickly
the
mixture
of
land-uses
with
the
neighborhoods
and
mixed-use
centers,
diverse
housing
projects,
recreational
opportunities,
land
use
goal,
six
has
recognized
the
value
of
Des,
Moines,
historic
building,
stock
and
landscape
and
ensure
the
preservation
for
future
residents.
Feel
that
applies
the
you
know.
C
We
have
historic
school,
that's
been
a
partner's
neighborhood
for
a
long
time-
and
this
is
a
nice
adaptive,
reuse
of
that
to
ensure
that
the
building
continues
into
the
future
Economic
Development
Goal.
So
the
the
comprehensive
plan
has
different
chapters
titled
that
relate
to
these
goals.
So
this
is
the
chapter
discussing
economic
development
is
recognized
the
value
of
Des
Moines
historic
building
stock.
You
know
what
I
apologize,
that
is
a
repeat,
but
underneath
is
the
focus
economic
development
efforts
in
neighborhood,
community
and
regional
nodes
and
corridors
served
by
transit.
C
So
this
is
what
we
were
trying
to
pull
forward,
but
the
essence
of
that
is
this
is
a
neighborhood
node,
there's
transit
on
the
street,
so
we
felt
that
that
was.
This
is
a
spot
Economic
Development
reinvestment
should
occur,
so
those
are
the
other,
the
criteria
elsewhere
and
the
comprehensive
plan.
Besides
the
future
land
use
map
that
reira
viewed
this
again.
So
that's
why
we
are
recommending
that
the
future
land
use
map
be
amended
as
written
in
the
agenda
and
requested.
T
C
N
C
C
C
C
Some
of
these
are
fairly
specifics
them
abroad,
I'll
go
ahead
and
read
through
them
and
then
try
to
discuss
them
as
we
go
so
condition.
Number
one
is
that
the
few
D
conceptual
plan
shall
be
updated
to
reflect
the
floor
area
and
parking
calculations
for
the
proposed
uses
submitted
by
the
applicant
and
included
in
Section
2,
subparagraph
2
of
this
report.
As
soon
as
I'm
done
reading
these
I
will
go
back
to
that
and
walk
you
through
those,
but
I
want
to
do
all
of
these
and
order.
C
The
PUD
conceptual
plans
shall
be
updated
to
reflect
the
additional
project
description
information
submitted
by
the
applicant
and
included
in
Section
1,
subparagraph
1
of
this
report.
The
agenda
heading
was
pretty
lengthy.
As
the
chair
noted
there's
a
lot
going
on
here.
We've
gathered
more
information
as
to
how
the
intent
of
their
proposal
put
that
in
the
report,
and
we
can
walk
you
through
that
here
in
a
minute.
3
is
the
provision
of
easements
for
all
existing
utilities,
to
the
satisfaction
city
and
near
just
a
standard
comment.
C
There
is
a
sewer
line
that
runs
through
here
that
there
needs
to
be
an
easement
dedicated
for
number.
Four
is
a
provision
of
a
note
on
the
PUD
conceptual
plan
that
states
all
site
lighting
shall
be
directed
downward
and
shielded
from
adjoining
properties.
Any
pole
mounted
lighting
along
private
walkway
shall
not
exceed
15
feet
in
height
and
any
pole,
mounted
lighting
and
parking
area
shall
not
exceed
20
feet
in
height.
This
is
standard
language.
We
use
on
site
plans
that
you
see
PUD
s
are
special
in
the
sense
that
they
you're
creating
your
own
standards.
C
So
we
wanted
to
make
sure
that
this
was
the
note
on
their
provision
of
a
note.
At
the
conceptual
plan
of
State's
direct
light
pass
beyond
the
property
line
is
prohibited.
The
maximum
horizontal
illumination
I'm,
not
gonna,
read
all
this,
but
this
is
the
lighting
standards
we
use
for
when
we
evaluate
site
plans.
Specifically,
the
Commission
sees
this.
Every
time
we
see
a
convenience-store
comes
before
you
there's
always
a
lighting
plan,
so
we're
expecting
a
lighting
plan
that
would
help
us
evaluate
light.
C
Trespass,
six
provision
of
a
note
on
the
PUD
conceptual
plan
that
states
all
utility
and
similar
service
lines
to
the
building
shall
be
located
underground.
This
is
service
lines
to
the
building,
not
in
the
right-of-way.
This
is
not
in
downtown
or
on
Ingersoll
or
any
of
our
identified
corridors.
So
this
is
just
specific
from
the
right.
C
You
know
right
away
to
the
building
provisioning,
a
note
and
the
P
view
concepts
a
plan
that
states
all
rooftop
mechanical
equipment
shall
be
screened
with
materials
that
architects
li
compatible
with
the
building's
dissatisfactions
a
plan
administrator
standard
language
aid
is
standard.
Language,
I,
won't,
read
it,
but
essentially
is
telling
the
applicant
where
meters
and
transformers
and
ground
mounted
equipment
can
be
located,
which
is
out
of
sight.
C
We
want
to
make
sure
you
know
that
those
go
in
and
then
anything
else
is.
This
comes
forward
with
a
site
plan
or
PUD
development
plan
that
we
think
is
necessary.
In
addition,
to
would
be
part
of
that.
So
that's
the
purpose
of
that
language.
The
ten
is
the
addition
note.
We
added
the
additional
building
mounted
signage
may
be
provided
for
individual
tenants
so
long
as
the
signage
complies
with
the
c1
district
standards
to
satisfaction.
The
plan
administrator.
C
Currently
their
sign
program
is
directed
to
market
the
site
as
a
single
group
or
a
single
body
or
single
site.
The
example
they
gave
to
me
is
that
you
know
like
hi
v--.
You
know
it
has
a
bunch
of
activities
underneath
it,
but
it's
marketed
as
hi
v--
over
time
they're.
You
know
we,
as
staff
could
see
a
need
to.
Maybe
you
know,
depending
on
what
hotel
chain
they
would
have
or
something
along
those
lines.
There
might
be
a
need
to
have
some
sort
of
building
mounted
signage.
The
c1
district
signage
level
is
fairly
minimal.
C
C
City
staff,
12
and
13
and
14
are
conditions
that
typically
come
out
of
our
conditional
use
process
that
our
zoning
borough
Adjustment
applies
for
uses
for
bar
type
uses
that
require
a
conditional
use.
Permit
peds
are
not
subject
to
the
zoning
board
of
adjustment,
but
we've
felt
that
these
standards
of
operation
that
we
apply
elsewhere
in
the
city
makes
sense
to
apply
here,
and
so
we've
lumped
them
in
so
12
has
to
do
with
complying
with
the
city's.
C
C
Excuse
me,
and
then
14
is
that
they
no
be
out
of
the
PUD
that
it's
subject
to
legislative
amendment,
to
preclude
the
sell
of
liquor,
wine
or
beer.
If
the
zoning
enforcement
officer
determines
that
the
operation
of
the
business
becomes
a
nuisance,
their
exhibits
a
pattern
of
violating
the
conditions
of
approval,
and
so
that
is
just
an
avenue
for
us
to
bring
this
back
and
revisit
that
much,
as
would
the
Zoning
Board
adjustment
and
review
of
a
conditional
use
permit.
C
The
last
is
that
the
final
development
plan
should
be
reviewed
by
the
Planning
Commission
and
the
City
Council
there's.
This
is
a
complex
project.
The
there's
a
lot
lot
going
on,
and
it's
not
just
the
agenda
heading,
it's
exciting
and
in
the
mix
of
uses,
but
we
felt
it'd
be
best
to
have
the
there
be
to
review
that
in
a
public
setting,
and
so
that's
why
we
are
that.
The
final
develop
plan,
which
is
the
site
plan
and
the
building
elevations,
come
back
through
the
pnz
City
Council
process.
C
If
that
condition
is
not
applied,
then
it
would
be
an
administrator
review.
I
know
from
talking
to
the
applicant
that
they
are
an
agreement
with
the
staff
recommendation,
except
for
they
have
a
different
angle
on
15
that
they'd
like
to
propose
to
you,
and
it
relates
to
the
timing
of
their
project
and
the
two-step
component.
I'm,
not
gonna,
speak
for
them
I'll.
Let
them
explain
that
to
you,
but
wanted
to
point
that
out.
I
They're,
basically
proposing
to
have
my
understanding,
is
different
areas
within
the
building
where
alcohol
could
be
purchased,
so
it
could
be
outside
of
a
performance
venue
or
it
could
be
outside
of
the
restaurant
or
it
could
be
within
the
building.
Those
are
all
being
nailed
down
more
specifically
on
a
final
development
plan,
but
they're
all
under
one
operation
is
my
is
my
understanding.
I
A
I
We
would
want
again
on
the
final
development
plan
to
be
very
clear
about
where
those
guests
feel
call
distribution
points
that
would
be
within
within
the
building,
but
that
was
part
of
the
reason
why
we
recommended
the
final
development
plan
come
back,
because
those
are
those
are
very
specific
details
that
a
lot
of
times
aren't
thought
about
at
the
conceptual
plan
stage,
but
certainly
we
would
expect
the
public
and
the
Commission
and
the
council
to
want
that
very
specific
in
a
plan,
so
that
was
I
would
recommend
of
what
we
did.
Thank
you
just.
H
I
W
W
This
is
a
plan
that
we've
seen
not
just
in
North
West
but
all
over
the
country
and
actually
in
our
own
backyard
in
Grinnell,
so
I've
spent
quite
a
bit
of
time
with
Angela
Harrington
that
actually
put
together
the
Grinnell
hotel,
if
you've
not
seen
that
it
is
hotel
and
it's
restaurant
bar
they've
taken
their
gymnasium
and
made
it
into
a
ballroom
and
they
have
a
an
auditorium
there.
Also.
So
the
idea
here
sounds
sort
of
grandiose,
but
we've
seen
the
McMenamin
brothers
in
Oregon
and
Washington
State
do
this.
W
X
So
we
wanted
to
give
a
little
bit
of
background
on
the
project
and
a
little
bit
of
what
the
vision
for
the
building
is
to
the
comfort
level.
So
a
little
bit
of
history
in
1948
is
when
the
original
building
was
built.
The
school
there
was
an
addition
done
roughly
10
years
later
and
then
later
in
the
70s
or
early
80s,
the
church
first
federated
bought
the
building
and
then
added
a
sanctuary
for
around
4,000
people
moving
forward.
X
So
you
see
the
site
plan
of
the
building
the
context
you
can
see
the
yellow,
faint,
yellow
line.
That's
the
bike
trail.
That's
currently
runs
through
the
neighborhood,
we're
thinking
about
extending
that
a
little
bit
towards
our
site
as
well.
To
connect
it
again
we're
looking
at
this.
The
project
is
essentially
about
revitalization
and
preservation
of
the
neighborhood
itself,
and
then
the
buildings
and
the
school
itself.
X
X
You
can
see
a
little
bit
more
view
in
in
terms
of
if
you
compare
it
to
the
McMenamin
project,
that
Jeff
was
mentioning,
so
what
you
saw
the
site
planned
there,
and
then
you
see
in
comparison.
The
density
of
the
neighborhood
that
you
see
in
Portland
the
scale
of
the
building
so
about
the
Kennedy
School
was
a
similar
program.
It
was
a
school
that
was
converted
into
an
amenity
space.
X
It
has
very
similar
amenities
that
we've
Jeff
is
envisioning
for
the
project,
so
we
wanted
to
show
a
little
bit
of
that.
It
has
a
theater
component
to
it,
as
it
has
a
pool
aspect
to
it
too,
that
we
that
could
be
shared
by
the
community
has
hotel
bars
and
restaurants,
the
basically
the
gym
space
is
used
as
a
public
event
space
as
well,
and
the
brewery
there
is
a
brewery
there.
Well,
this
is
the
Anderson
school
again
in
in
Portland
or
in
Buffalo
Washington
similar
program.
X
One
of
the
things
that
they
have
done
here
is
actually
built.
An
additional
outdoor
pavilion,
if
you
would,
which
is
again
connects
people
to
the
outdoors,
brings
people
that
brings
the
community
together
and
increase
this
really
vibrant
sense
of
community.
That's
to
us
is
unique
to
Des
Moines,
but
not
doesn't
it's
not
unique
nationwide.
X
Moving
a
little
bit
closer
as
Jeff
mentioned
of
the
hotel
Grinnell
is,
is
something
we
can
all
go
and
experience
in
terms
of
the
program
aspect
of
it.
It's
a
little
bit
smaller
in
scale,
but
in
terms
of
amenity
spaces
they're
providing
similar
outdoor
spaces.
Restaurants
bars
environments,
a
boutique
hotel.
They
use
their
old
gym
as
a
ballroom
space
as
well.
So
we
just
felt
like
there
is
we
don't
we
wanted
to
feel
people
comfortable
with
this
idea
that
this
is
not
something
unique
that
we're
bringing?
X
Y
So
moving
back
to
our
site
here,
this
is
the
existing
site.
You'll
see
that
as
Khalid
mentioned,
the
buildings
and
fantastic
condition,
existing
parking
is
on
the
north
side
of
the
building
there
and
where
we're
oriented
right
now
in
this
image
is
how
we'll
be
looking
at
the
site
plan.
So
north
is
to
the
right
of
the
screen
there
on
that
parking
side.
As
we
go
to
the
PUD
plan,
you'll
see
that
it's
fairly
similar
to
what
we
were
looking
at,
which
which
is
there
currently
so
we're
leaving
a
lot
of
the
building?
Y
Well,
really
leaving
the
building
as
it
is,
we're
leaving
parking
more
or
less
as
it
is
at
actually
adding
some
planting
that
sort
of
thing
and
then
really
the
the
major
kind
of
changes
are
out
on
the
exterior.
So
we
have
the
the
East
garden
and
the
South
patio,
which
I'll
kind
of
zoom
into
here,
so
the
East
garden
was
on
that
along
40th
Street
there.
So
this
is
closer
to
the
residential
neighborhoods
in
the
area.
We
are
planning
an
intensive
garden
in
this
area,
so
you'll
see
some
examples
of
some
plantings.
Y
There
variety
of
textures,
colors
Heights,
that
sort
of
thing
and
then
the
pathways
you
know
these
are
not
meant
to
be
sidewalks.
These
are
crunchy
landscape
areas
using
pavers,
stepping
stones,
things
of
that
nature,
and
the
idea
is
that
we
have
these
wandering
paths,
and
this
is
really
a
community
garden.
Anybody
can
come
in
we've
built
in
nodes
to
sit
and
take
a
rest.
Y
You
know
this
is
meant
to
be
kind
of
quiet,
quiet
area
as
far
as
the
garden
goes
moving
to
the
south
side
of
the
building
along
Franklin
Avenue,
which
this
is
an
area
that
is
more
of
a
social
gathering
area.
So
this
is,
we
were
planning
that
the
outdoor
additional
building.
This
is
the
one
addition
to
to
the
existing
building
a
small
space.
Y
Y
So,
coming
back
to
the
overall
site,
you'll
see
that
when
we
actually
would
know
that
we've
talked
about
that
kind
of
things
that
were
changing
on
the
exterior
we're
putting
the
one
thing
that
maybe
could
generate
a
little
bit
of
noise
along
Franklin
Avenue
away
from
the
the
residential
area.
We're
putting
that
that
quiet
garden
along
48th.
That's
a
great
view
for
it.
For
the
neighbors,
as
well
as
the
people
in
inside
the
building,
there
you'll
see
a
couple
spots
on
the
lower
side
there.
That
shows
some
of
our
new
monument
signs.
Y
Those
are
oriented
so
that
they're
shown
down
the
street,
but
that
also
then
means
that
the
light
isn't
shining
across
to
to
the
neighbors
making
sure
we're
taking
that
into
consideration.
We're
only
adding
those
three
signs
perfectly,
and
actually
one
of
them
is
an
existing
sign,
we're
just
kind
of
moving
it
a
little
bit
and
as
was
mentioned,
you
know
we
right
now
we
don't
have
current
plans
for
additional.
You
know
major
building,
signage,
just
minimal
directional
signage,
but
we'd
follow
that
provision
for
anything
in
the
future.
Y
So
now
talking
about
the
interior
of
the
building
building
is
in
fantastic
condition.
These
are
just
a
few
of
the
spaces
and
kind
of
things
in
the
building
that
show
some
of
the
character
that
we're
working
with
the
main
plan
is
to
not
dramatically
change
the
building.
We
want
to
work
with,
what's
currently
there
so
rolling
into
some
of
the
program.
That's
planned
for
this
space.
Y
A
lot
of
the
spaces
that
were
what
they
were
before,
like
gymnasiums
will
stay
gymnasiums,
be
able
to
be
used
by
by
the
community
rented
for
events,
maybe
like
a
wedding
reception.
As
you
mentioned,
auditoriums
will
stay,
auditoriums
the
cafeteria
and
the
kitchen
will
become
a
restaurant.
Much
like
it
was
used
previously.
The
locker
rooms
are
potentially
going
to
become.
You
know.
The
hotel
lobby
in
another
restaurant
area
nursery
area
will
continue
to
be
the
Montessori
School.
Y
That's
currently
there
classrooms
will
be
used
for
office,
space,
hotel
rooms,
event,
rental,
space,
retail
and
and
mercantile
space.
The
shops
classrooms
is
where
we're
currently
planning
for
that
that
potential
micro
brewery,
which
would
make
beverages
on-site
and
then
potentially
sell
that
on-site
as
well
the
science
the
second
floor.
Science
lab
is
the
only
dedicated
bar
currently
planned
for
for
the
building
and
I'll
kind
of
talk
little
bit
more
about
that.
Just
a
second
but
and
then
the
band
inquiry
rooms
are
planned
to
be
small
performance
venues.
Y
The
courtyards
would
be
where
the
soaking
pool
a
secure
school
play,
areas
and
garden
and
social
gatherings.
Space
would
happen,
and
then
I'd
mentioned
that
new
exterior
building
is
really
the
one
new
piece
we're
adding.
Is
that
kind
of
extension
of
that
cafeteria
restaurant
there'll
be
some
spaces
that
we
need
to
make
rooms
for
additional
restrooms,
elevator
or
that
sort
of
thing,
but
as
far
as
the
alcohol
cell
sales
go,
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
that
earlier.
So
we
have.
Y
We
have
the
one
dedicated
bar,
which
is
a
science
lab
there
is
that
upper
left
is
a
picture
of
that
science
lab
it's
just
a
classroom
size
right,
but
it
was
a
lab.
So
the
plan
is
to
make
that
a
bar-
that's
themed
around
science
right,
but
beyond
that
really
the
other
locations
we're
talking
about
having
alcohol
would
be
in
association
with
the
restaurants
that
are
in
the
space.
So
I
mean
it's
not
different
than
really
any
restaurant
that
you'd
go
to
around
here
and
then
again
the
those
concession
areas.
Y
So
when
there
is
an
event
making
sure
we
were
able
to
accommodate
that
in
the
various
locations
within
the
building,
so
moving
in
a
just
a
little
bit
to
how
maybe
these
spaces
would
transform.
So
some
of
the
things
that
we
really
want
to
make
sure
we're
doing
is
respecting
that
the
time
period
of
the
building.
We
don't
want
to
make
major
changes,
but
bringing
it
back
to
that.
That
kind
of
retro
atomic
era
somewhere
between
mid
50s
to
mid
60's
time
period
and
really
working
with
what
we
have.
Y
So
we
don't
want
to
blow
out
all
these
spaces
and
make
them
a
blank
canvas.
We
want
to
want
to
work
with
that.
So
you'll
see
some
images
that
are
obviously
older
and
then
some
new
and
we're
gonna
we're
hopefully
going
to
land
somewhere
in
in
that
realm
and
then
the
hotel
rooms,
much
like
the
McMenamin
x'
examples.
X
Z
Teva
Dawson
14,
24,
48,
Street
I
am
a
neighbor
and
also
serving
as
part
of
group
creatives.
A
project
lead
on
this
I
am
a
neighbor.
I
live
four
blocks
away
and
my
two
sons,
their
daughter
too
Birchwood,
Montessori
at
Franklin
junior
high
every
single
day.
We
love
to
open
a
little
walk.
There
I'm
really
excited
about
this
project
for
70
years.
Z
This
piece
large
piece
of
land,
has
not
been
on
the
tax
roll
and
with
this
project
moving
forward
and
would
be
able
to
expect
with
a
10
million
evaluation
we'd
get
about
$400,000
in
taxes
every
year.
From
this
president,
when
we
did,
research
out
in
the
northwest
projects
were
had
a
much
higher
valuation.
So
we
expect
that
that
number
will
actually
increase.
I'm,
also
really
excited
to
be
able
to
tell
you
and
I
think
that
the
neighborhood
leaders
are
here
as
well
to
convey
their
enthusiasm.
Z
But
all
this
is
at
the
corner
of
three
different
neighborhood
associations
and
all
three
of
them
have
voted
in
favor
of
the
project.
I
do
want
to
speak
to
the
condition
15
that
Jason
had
talked
about
that
one
which
was
requiring
that
we
come
back
to
to
you
as
well
as
a
council
on
the
site
plan.
We
recognized
an
interest
and
have
a
kind
of
more
public
process
around
the
site
design
and
are
happy
to
come
back
here.
Z
A
lot
of
that
site
design
is
also
about
getting
those
gardens
planted
so
we're
requesting
not
to
in
order
to
kind
of
try
to
condense.
The
timeline
of
not
going
back
to
council
I
wouldn't
give
us
a
little
bit
shorter
timeline
in
order
to
start
moving
on
those
Gardens
as
spring.
So
we're
looking
for
kind
of
an
amendment
of
that
staff,
recommendation
and
I'm
just
I,
think
I
think
that's
it
for
the
presentation.
Z
Thank
you
for
hearing
about
this
as
an
exciting
project
as
a
major
region,
major
redevelopment
in
this
area.
I
also
said
on
the
neighborhood
revitalization
committee.
If
you
remember,
there's
four
different
neighborhoods
that
are
picked.
Our
neighborhoods
considered
one
that's
kind
of
teetering
in
that
middle
area,
and
we
think
these
sort
of
projects
are
major
investments
to
kind
of
help
propel.
My
neighborhood
towards
the
positive
thank
you
all.
A
Let's
there
explained
it
all.
Thank
you
so
at
this
time
I'm
going
to
ask
if
there's
anybody
in
the
audience
who
wish
to
speak
in
favor
of
the
project
and
again,
as
Jason
said,
if
you
haven't
signed
it
over
here
on
this
site,
Jason
they
steep
that
yeah,
please
sign
in,
but
then
otherwise
lineup
you
or
you
can
do
it
after.
You
speak
to.
AA
A
AA
AA
You
very
much
and
good
evening,
I'm
ceci
Epson
4310
over
to
Avenue
in
Beaverdale
I
also
have
herbs
in
law
firm
at
2629
beaver.
They
are
Beaver
Avenue,
Suite,
3
right
in
beautiful,
downtown
Beaverdale
I'm
here
tonight.
On
behalf
of
the
beaver
del
Neighborhood
Association
comprised
I'm
told
of
some
5,000
households
and
businesses
I
serve
as
president
of
the
Board
of
Directors
in
March
of
this
year.
AA
Zoning
classification
is
generally
appropriate
for
the
site,
given
adjacent
development
and
road
network.
It
is
hereby
resolved
that
the
beaver,
Dale
Neighborhood
Association
supports
that
we
can
build
a
tell
C's
application
for
rezoning
of
Franklin
Jr
High.
A
friend
of
mine,
who
is
a
pastor
at
a
small
town
here
in
Iowa,
is
currently
traveling
in
the
Pacific
Northwest
and
stayed
in
Portland
at
the
property
that
was
featured
in
some
of
the
materials
you
saw
earlier.
AA
He's
been
posting
on
Facebook
about
his
travel
and
his
experiences
there
and
loved
that
there
is
a
boutique
hotel,
along
with
the
fine,
dining
restaurant
and
a
craft
brew
pub
all
in
one
area.
There
is
some
in
the
neighborhood
who
have
questioned
the
economics
of
a
boutique
hotel
in
Beaverdale.
That
was
something
that
was
discussed
early
on
as
Geoff
Young
presented
this
project
to
us
many
months
ago.
AA
I
will
tell
you:
we
are
a
neighborhood
of
smaller
homes,
many
without
overnight
guest
space
when
friends
and
family
come
to
visit,
the
closest
hotels
are
in
the
Drake
area
or
up
on
Merle
hay
road.
So,
for
my
part,
I
think
a
boutique
hotel
would
do
very,
very
well
in
his
face.
The
restaurants
and
bars
in
our
neighborhood
are
thriving
to
the
point
where
additional
options
would
benefit
all
of
us.
We
don't
want
to
turn
anyone
away.
One
person,
I
think
has
expressed
a
concern
about
parking
and
traffic.
AA
Apparently
there
were
issues
with
overflow
cars
parked
on
the
streets
during
times
when
first
federated
had
services
in
the
space.
Also
traffic
leave
in
a
course
of
services,
let
out
parking
and
Beaverdale
is
always
going
to
be
an
issue.
We
are
an
urban
neighbourhood
and
an
increasingly
urban
City,
but
48th
Street
is
far
wider
than
say,
for
example,
Beaver
Avenue,
right
by
where
my
office
is
located,
where
we
have
cars
parked
along
both
sides
of
the
street
day
and
night.
AA
But
I
will
tell
you
these
cars
belong
to
people
who
come
to
my
neighborhood
to
do
business
and
have
a
good
time
and
I.
Think
that's
a
good
thing
for
my
part.
I
cannot
wait
for
this
project
to
be
completed
for
my
neighborhood
to
have
entertainment,
concert
and
show
space
like
quite
Sherman
since
purchasing
the
property
Jeff
Young
has
integrated
himself
into
our
neighborhood.
Full-Bore
he's
opened
the
parking
lot
for
the
Beaverdale
Bluegrass
Festival
and
Fall
Festival.
AA
He
was
even
out
there
baking
and
handing
out
cookies
for
all
of
us
who
were
down
there
bright
and
early
on
the
morning
of
Fall
Festival
lining
that
parade
entries,
I
welcomed
him
as
a
neighbor
and
I
encouraged
the
board
of
the
strongest
possible
terms
to
approve
this
request.
Thank
you
very
much.
Thank.
A
R
My
remarks
are
much
more
brief,
but
just
so
you
know,
I'm
the
president
of
the
wave
and
Park
Neighborhood
Association
I
am
here
both
as
a
neighbor
and
representing
the
Neighborhood
Association
this
evening.
Over
the
past
year,
the
development
team
that's
been
put
together
for
Franklin
junior
high
has
made
a
concerted
effort
to
engage
neighborhood
residents
and
our
associations
respective
Beaverdale
Sark's,
our
own
and
roll
hey
to
gather
input
on
the
proposed
redevelopment
of
this
property.
R
They've
also
worked
extensively
with
nearby
neighborhood
associations
to
ensure
that
this
does
not
detract
from
the
character
of
our
neighborhoods,
but
only
adds
to
it
and
adds
vibrancy
and
I'm
going
to
kind
of
go
off
script
here,
because
I
don't
like
prepared
remarks
as
I'm
sitting
here.
Thinking
about
what
kind
of
neighborhood
I
want
to
see.
Waveland
Park
in
this
part
of
Des
Moines
become
I,
can't
help,
but
think
if
this
doesn't
happen,
it's
not
going
to
become
but
I
hope
it
will
be.
R
I'm
missing
right
now,
bedtime
with
my
Sigma
6
month
old
and
as
I
think
about
living
in
the
neighborhood
for
the
next
20
years
and
what
it
looks
like
I
can't
imagine
this
being
a
gaping
hole
in
our
neighborhood.
If
this
does
not
go
forward.
So
on
behalf
of
the
Association
and
myself
and
my
family
I
urge
you
to
approve
the
rezoning
and
the
PUD
as
presented.
Thank.
AB
Hi
I'm
very
excited
to
be
here.
My
name
is
Betsy
Parker
I'm
at
2101,
48th
Street,
my
husband
Joe,
will
introduce
himself
and
speak
for
himself.
Okay
with
this
okay
I
mean
a
shirt
for
all
of
you,
no
more
empty
buildings.
I,
don't
have
a
map
to
show
you,
but
our
home
is
directly
across
the
street
from
the
parking
lot
of
this
building.
I'm
sorry.
AB
This
is
very
emotional
for
me
when
we
moved
in
the
church
owned
the
building-
and
we
were
thrilled
about
that
because
we
thought
what
better
neighbor
is
a
church
and
then
the
church
left
and
what
happened
in
that
time.
Well,
what
happened
while
the
church
was
still
there
was
we
had
people
coming
in
and
using
the
parking
lot
to
drag
race
and
people
doing
donuts,
and
then
one
night
at
about
6:00
p.m.
AB
I
walked
outside
and
there
were
two
pickup
trucks
and
there
were
individuals
coming
out
of
each
truck
and
they
were
fighting
and
they
were
screaming
and
I
ran
across
the
street
to
take
a
picture
because
that's
what
the
police
had
told
me
to
do,
they
said
you
need
to
get
video.
We
need
to
know
who
these
people
are
that
are
using
the
space
in
this
way.
AB
So
I
were
gonna
cross
the
street
to
try
and
take
a
video,
and
at
that
time
guns
were
pulled
from
both
vehicles
and
I'm,
terrified
of
this
building
being
empty
I'm,
terrified
of
another
building
being
empty
on
our
street.
We
already
have
the
Mersey
building
at
Franklin
and
48.
That's
empty
I,
can't
even
imagine
what
will
happen.
I
was
so
excited
to
hear
about
the
possibility
of
this
of
this
project
and
to
meet
Jeff
within
three
days
of
me,
getting
his
phone
number
and
calling
him
and
telling
him
all.
This
stuff
was
happening.
AB
He
had
blockades
up
and
that
parking
lot
was
shut
off
and
it
was
that
was
it.
There
was
nobody
showing
up
there
with
guns.
There
was
nobody
showing
up
there
to
loiter.
He
was
my
favorite
neighbor,
the
second
he
came
into
this
neighborhood
and
I
I
appreciate
him,
so
so
much
and
I'm
so
excited
for
the
possibility
of
bringing
vibrancy
into
this
neighborhood
I
love.
So
much
I
grew
up
in
this
area.
This
is
the
only
place
I've
ever
wanted
to
be
and
I
love
it.
AB
AC
Joe
Parker,
her
quieter
half
so
I
grew
up.
I'll
try
to
keep
this
fairly
short,
but
I
grew
up
with
a
grandmother
who
drove
me
out
to
Portland
Oregon.
Every
summer
we
had
aunts
and
uncles
that
lived
out
there,
so
we
traveled
to
Portland
every
year
and
I
did
that
you
know
through
grade
school
and
up
into
high
school.
Of
course,
I
had
cousins
graduating.
AC
If
you
want
to
go
downtown,
you
don't
go
through
those
neighborhoods
and
my
wife
and
I
decided
to
go
visit
Portland,
because
I
was
so
excited
about
that
city.
I
loved
it
and
wanted
to
introduce
her
to
it
and
show
it
to
her.
So
we
went
out
there
and
we
stayed
in
the
neighborhood
that
when
I
was
a
kid
we
could
not
stay
in
and
the
reason
a
large
part
of
the
reason
we
were
able
to
stay
in
that
type
of
a
neighborhood
is
because
the
these
types
of
renovations
were
happening.
AC
So
we
stayed
near
a
McMenamin
project.
We
actually
went
to
a
I'm,
gonna,
probably
butcher
the
name,
but
it
was
a
venerable
project.
It's
a
Washington,
High
School
they've
got
Revolution
Hall
in
there
we
wouldn't
watch
the
show.
It
was
amazing,
we
loved
it.
It
was.
It
was
fantastic
and
you
know
we
moved
to
Des
Moines
on
January
20th
of
2017
is
that
right
and
when
we
moved
into
town
we
wanted
to
live
in
Beaverdale.
AC
We
found
a
house
in
Beaverdale
and
the
reason
I
moved
to
Beaverdale
is
because
I'd
never
met
anybody
who
lived
in
Beaver
dale
and
said
they
wish
they
they
wish
they
would
have
left
sooner.
Nobody
ever
said
that
and
then
most
people
said
you
know,
I
really
miss
my
house
in
Beaverdale
I
wish
I
still
lived
in
Beaverdale
within
the
last
year.
AC
You
know:
there's
there's
been
some
crime
in
the
neighborhood,
more
than
I
expected
when
I
moved
down
here
from
Ames,
not
the
name
just
crime-free,
but
I
just
feel
like
pretty
strongly
in
in
the
way
that
my
wife
does
that
that
I
think
this
helps
the
neighborhood
in
a
positive
and
absolutely
jeff
has
been
a
positive
influence
on
on
that
building
in
that
space.
By
doing
you
know
what
bets
he
talked
about,
so
full
support
really
excited
about.
It.
I
think
we
need
it.
Thank.
A
AD
Hello
good
evening
my
name
is
Megan
Kristofferson.
My
address
is
60
to
85
Sudbury
Court
in
Johnston.
I
am
one
of
the
founders
of
birch
wood
Montessori,
which
is
the
school.
That's
currently
located
kind
of
right.
In
the
middle
of
this
ginormous
building
and
I
met
Jeff,
probably
about
ten
years
ago,
maybe
a
little
bit
longer
on
another
project
to
bring
Gigi's
Playhouse
the
Down
syndrome,
awareness
center,
move
it
to
one
of
the
properties
that
he
owned
in
Windsor
Heights.
AD
So
when
I
was
going
to
start
this
new
school
I
called
Jeff,
and
by
luck
he
says
I
think
I've
got
this
idea
meet
me
at
this
address,
so
I
Drive
to
the
building,
walk
in
and
am
a
it's
like
nostalgic
and
all
those
things
you
love,
then
he
starts
telling
me
about
the
plans
of
building
a
community
within
a
building
and
part
of
Montessori
philosophy
is
really
to
be
integrated
into
your
community.
Be
hands-on
and
I
was
just
like
what
what
dumb
luck
do.
AD
I
have
to
make
the
right
phone
call
at
the
right
time.
We
couldn't
be
more
excited
to
our
be
the
first
people
in
this
building
and
a
part
of
the
project.
We
can't
wait
to
start
exposing
our
students
and
our
children
to
these
brilliant
local
business
owners
who
are
bringing
life
into
our
local
communities.
So
from
our
standpoint,
we
are
fully
on
board
and
can't
wait
to
start
teaching
all
of
our
students,
more
things
about
how
community
works
and
how
business
goes
and
I
guess.
I'll
just
end
by
saying
that.
AD
Thank
you
for
listening
and
considering
all
of
this,
and
in
my
experience
with
Jeff
he's
such
a
man
of
his
word
and
if
he
he's
never
done
anything
to
make
me
question
his
integrity
in
the
least
so
we're
fully
on
board
with
all
of
the
wonderful
ideas
to
integrate
community
in
under
this
building.
So
thank.
AE
My
name
is
bill:
Nellis
I
have
a
studio
at
413,
Southwest,
8th,
Street
I
now
live
in
Windsor
Heights
at
71008,
Jefferson
I've
been
in
advertising
commercial
photographer
here
in
Des
Moines,
since
1980
I've
had
several
studios
in
different
areas
of
the
town
and
when
I
first
found
out
about
this
project,
I
have
friends
that
went
here.
I
used
to
go
over
and
pick
him
up
when
I
was
16
years
old.
AE
You
know
it
has
memories
for
me
and
when
I
went
over
here
and
I
met
Jeff
and
the
the
area's
the
the
community,
people
that
are
already
involved
with
it
and
the
attitude
that
is
there,
I'm
gonna
cut
it
short.
I
wrote
two
and
a
half
pages
and
timed
it
out
to
four
and
a
half
minutes,
so
that
I
could
be
sure
and
get
it
in,
because
I
wanted
to
answer
the
way
it
was
in
the
agenda
and
explain
more
about
the
personality,
but
they've
done
it
already.
AE
Everything
about
it
I'm
just
here
because
of
the
enthusiasm
I
have
friends
in
Portland
and
in
Bothell,
Washington
and
I've
been
in
communication
with
them
and
they
love
it.
My
wife
has
been
to
the
one
in
Portland
everything
about
it
is
so
good.
It's
got
a
vibe
that
I'm
planning
on
moving
my
studio.
There
I'll
go
down
there
on
a
Saturday
and
walk
through
and
see
kids
work
in
the
gym,
like
local
sports
groups,
practicing
soccer
in
the
wintertime
or
whatever
and
musical
groups.
Girls
rocks
the
harmony
choir.
AF
My
name
is
Mark
Johnson
1089,
44th
Street
Waveland
park
board
member,
like
Franklin
Avenue
I,
think
they
said
it
came
on
in
1948,
I
came
in
to
Des
Moines
April
4th
1948,
been
here
ever
since
I
love
this
neighborhood
and
I'm
so
enthused
about.
What's
going
on
that
little
quadrant
right
there,
Franklin
Avenue
for
30
years
I
mean
your
church
is
OK
on
Sunday
it
was
nice,
but
for
30
years
all
the
way
down
to
Merle
hay
road
needs,
and
this
is
just
what
we
need
is
the
enthusiasm
that
that's
all
I
want
to
say.
AG
Good
evening,
everyone,
my
name-
is
Jeff
Wood
I
own,
a
business
called
gravity
co-working
at
317,
6th,
Avenue,
downtown
I,
also
in
location
in
Valley.
Junction
I've
worked
with
Jeff
for
five
years
as
a
business,
partner
and
property
owner
and
I'm
here
to
support
the
project.
You
know
a
year
ago
or
so
Jeff
started
talking
about
this.
He
has
lots
of
big
ideas
and
he
kind
of
said
my
by
the
school.
We're
gonna
do
all
these
things
and
I
didn't
quite
get
it.
AG
Then
he
brought
me
into
the
school
and
I
walked
around
and
said:
okay
I
think
I
can
see
it
and
then
two
weeks
ago
actually
went
out
to
Portland
and
I
visited
the
Kennedy
School
I
visited
the
Washington
High
School,
which
was
mentioned,
and
now
I
really
see
his
vision
and
I.
Think
it's
something
that
can
really
add
to
Des
Moines
we've
been
working
with
Jeff.
AG
We
continue
work
with
Jeff
on
our
downtown
properties
and
now
we're
in
talks
to
professionally
manage
the
office
space,
which
we
do
for
entrepreneurs,
freelancers
and
small
business
in
Des
Moines.
To
do
that
as
a
component
of
what's
going
to
go
into
the
school,
so
I'm
just
here
to
support
the
project
and
I
appreciate
your
time
tonight.
Thank.
A
AH
Good
evening
my
name
is
Joe:
Barron
I
live
at
1503,
48th
Street,
my
wife,
Roberta
and
I
have
lived
there
for
23
years.
We're
very
excited
about
this
project.
We've
toured
the
building.
It's
amazing.
In
fact,
when
we
heard
about
it,
we
happen
to
have
a
family
trip
planned
to
Portland
Oregon.
So
we
went
to
the.
U
AH
School
we
stayed
overnight
at
the
Kennedy
School,
we
were
blown
away
by
it,
I,
don't
think
we
could
have
even
appreciated
what
the
what
the
idea
was
until
we
had
seen
and
walked
around
a
project
like
that.
We
liked
that
so
much
that
we
sought
out.
We
went
to
another
McMenamin
property
outside
of
Portland.
It
was
a
County
home
that
had
been
done
up
according
to
the
same
theory
and
equally
impressed,
and
we
just
think
this
will
be
a
great
addition
to
the
neighborhood.
It's
it's
just
what
we
need.
AI
Evening
christian
san
I'm
here
on
behalf
of
the
Merle
hay
road
Association
Board
of
Directors
I,
also
live
at
2206
52nd
Street.
To
start
off,
I
would
say
that
jeff
has
been
very
engaging
throughout
the
process.
We
started
off
with
some
committee
meetings,
just
in
general
between
the
three
neighborhoods
about
this
node
this
this
you
know
corridor
in
that
intersection,
and
we
had
a
committee
meeting
where
we
met
with
Jeff
and
talked
about
this,
and
then
he
came
to
a
Board
of
Directors
meetings,
and
then
he
came
to
one
of
our
quarterly
neighborhood
meetings.
AI
Then
he
came
to
another
neighborhood
board
meeting
and
in
the
meantime,
he's
been
giving
tours
to
anybody
who
will
want
to
go
to
the
building
and
see
it
which
has
been
fantastic,
so
extremely
engaging,
which
is
always
good
to
hear.
From
that
perspective,
the
other
thing
I
would
say
that
he
has
been
consistent
throughout
in
his
passion
and
vision
for
this
property
which
which
we
also
appreciate
consistency
and
passion
for
something,
because
that
usually
translates
to
a
good
revitalization
effort
and
I
would
say,
he's
been
a
good
listener.
AI
Every
time
that
somebody
has
brought
up
a
concern,
he
has
listened,
he
stayed
true
to
his
passion
and
vision,
because
listening
doesn't
always
mean
you
necessarily
agree,
but
he
has
listened
with
enthusiasm
and
done
what
he
can
to
make
sure
that
he
at
least
heard
the
concerns
and
to
what
he
did,
what
he
could
to
address
him.
Moving
on
to
that,
the
concerns
that
we
heard
as
the
neighborhood
potential
traffic
input
impacts,
which
there
was
a
traffic
study
and
addressed
a
lot
of
those
concerns.
AI
So
we
haven't
heard
that
one
since
that
traffic
study
came
out
the
number
of
locations
within
the
building
where
alcohol
would
be
served
and
I
understood
the
concept
having
again
I'll
just
cliche
I
have
also
been
to
the
Kennedy
School
in
Edgefield,
and
so
when
Jeff
was
like
oh
I
want
to
do.
This,
I
was
like
I
loved
that
trip.
That
was
fantastic
and
everybody
who's
gone
to
Portland.
Since
I've
said
you
got
to
go
here.
This
is
a
fun
spot,
it's
good
time,
but
I
understood
what
he
was
going
for.
AI
So
maybe
that
that's
obviously
there
are
people
that
are
just
gonna,
be
against
that
type
of
establishment
in
general
and
then
there's
others
that
may
just
have
a
misconception
whatever
it
is
it's
out
there
and
it's
a
concern
that
we
have
to
note
as
part
of
our
process
signage
again
for
individual
vigeous
businesses.
I
we
didn't
have
any
problems
with
the
signage
that
was
proposed,
but
the
potential
of
individual
businesses
having
signage
could
be
end
up
being
a
little
clutter.
Some
concerns
about
the
market
for
hotel
rooms.
AI
Again
I
it's
may
be,
you
know
a
market
is
not
necessarily
something
we
deal
with
as
a
board.
Nor
do
we
know
the
market
for
hotel
rooms,
but
it's
one
of
those
things
like
wow.
Is
that
really
gonna
work
here,
but
I
would
I?
Would
I
would
also
reiterate
CeCe's
comments
about
when
my
in-laws
come
from
Atlanta?
They
have
to
stay
downtown,
you
know,
that's
where
we
put
them
and
it
would
be
nice
to
have
him
a
little
closer
for
the
most
part
and
then
the
other
thing
was.
AI
There
were
some
issues
with
code
violations
that
some
other
properties
owned
by
the
applicant
that
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
on
top
of
those
here
and
again,
there's
a
city
process
for
that,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
had
that
those
are
addressed
if
that
arises
in
the
future.
The
other
now
flip
to
the
other
side,
the
excitement
that
we
heard,
which
was
I,
think
overwhelmingly
more
than
the
concerns
in
at
least
in
my
perception
and
many
of
the
board
members.
AI
Reuse
of
the
historic
building
would
be
number
one
we
didn't
want
to
see
it
torn
down.
We
can't
even
imagine
the
density
that
you'd
have
to
build
in
residential
property
to
try
and
offset
the
cost
of
tearing
that
down
and
then
selling
it
back
it's
it
would
be
it
if
you
looked
at
it
that
way
from
a
simple
pro
forma
standpoint,
it
would
be
more
dense
than
the
apartments
that
are
to
the
west
right
now
in
order
to
make
that
cash
flow,
so
I
noticed.
AI
The
planned
site,
improvements,
I,
think,
are
fantastic
and
the
board
was
definitely
on
board
with
those.
The
potential
of
the
proposed
reuse
of
the
building
to
have
a
positive
impact
on
that
corridor
was
also
something
we've
talked
about.
As
somebody
mentioned
earlier,
the
mercy
Behavioral
Sciences-
that's
been
empty
for
a
while,
and
there
are
some
plans
for
that,
but
they
also
have
not.
Recently,
we
saw
some
developer
that
we've
seen
some
others.
We
haven't
heard
anything
lately,
but
it's
not
nice
to
have
it
vacant
and
immerse
the
other
part
of
Mercy.
AI
AI
So
I,
you
know
in
general
that
market
went
away,
but
it
is
now
a
it's
a
UCS,
it's
a
clinic
and
for
the
most
part
my
understanding
is
they
serve
recovering
addicts
for
the
most
part,
and
so
we
have
a
lot
of
traffic
there
that
it's
it's
a
it's
a
use
and
it's
it's
in
the
neighborhood
I,
don't
know
of
any
issues
that
we've
had
with
it.
But
again
it's
it's
reuse
of
the
property
that
is
different
than
what
it
was
years
ago
and
definitely
not
retail,
focused
or
neighborhood
focus.
AI
Overall,
the
board
voted
and
passed
the
following
motion:
the
Marilee
Neighborhood
Association
Board
of
Directors
supports
the
rezoning
request
for
Franklin
junior
high
with
staffs
recommendations.
The
vote
was
completed
today.
It
was
not
unanimous,
but
it
was
5.
Yes,
1
no
1
in
state.
That's
all
I
have
so
we
support
it
and
we
hope
that
you
guys
go
forward
with
it
as
well.
Thank
you,
Pinkie
a
link,
I.
AJ
So
I
just
wanted
to
come
and
say
that
I
support
this
project
I
think
it.
It
provides
us
with
the
unique
venue
setting
here
that
we
don't
already
have
in
Des
Moines
and
that
being
a
600
cap,
seated
theater
Woolies
being
about
650
standing.
There
are
shows
that
don't
hit
the
market
because
they
need
to
be
in
a
seated
setting
whether
that
be
a
comedy
show:
podcast
live
taping,
you
know
a
magic
show
or
just
a
singer-songwriter
or
a
concert
that
wants
to
be
seated.
AJ
So
if
you
look
at
a
venue
in
Iowa
City,
there's
a
venue
called
the
Englert,
which
was
700
capacity.
They
they
keep
super
busy.
It's
something
we
don't
have
here.
You
know
so
I'm
right
now,
I'm
right
now,
I'm
waiting
to
kind
of
hear
this
decision
so
I
know
if
I
can
continue
booking
stuff
at
this
space.
I
have
a
lot
of
holds
out
for
this
fall
and
I
want
to
really
utilize
this
space.
That's
all
I
got
thank.
A
AK
Hello,
my
name
is
Gerren
Hart
and
I'm.
The
executive
director
of
the
Des
Moines
music
coalition.
My
personal
address
is
seven
one.
Eight
18th,
Street
I
just
wanted
to
say,
I
mean
our
organization.
The
mission
is
to
support
and
cultivate
Iowa's
music
economy
with
a
vision
of
establishing
Des
Moines.
As
you
know,
a
recognized
Music
City
and
a
project
like
this
would,
of
course
you
know
help
to
accomplish
that
for
the
reasons
that
Sam
just
spoke
about-
and
you
know
just
having
a
really
exciting
mix-
seus
development.
AK
That
would,
of
course,
create
jobs
serve
as
a
regeneration
to
increase
economic
output.
It
would
be
a
tourism
driver,
it
enhances
social
inclusion
and
supports
a
thriving.
You
know,
night
economy,
and
you
know,
we've
had
some
preliminary
very
preliminary
conversations
about
you
know,
potentially
using
the
space
to
provide
affordable,
rehearsal
spaces
for
artists,
and
you
know,
regardless
of
whether
you
know
we
do
that
or
not
this
space
is
incredible
and
it's
such
a
it
would
be
such
an
important
piece
for
Des
Moines
them
I
just
wanted
to
speak
in
support.
Thank
you
very
much.
AL
AL
We
get
to
have
workshops,
we
have
overnight
songwriting
get
together
as
we
it's
just
been
an
amazing
change
to
our
organization,
and
the
thing
is:
this
project
has
not
only
come
with
a
great
business
mind,
but
it
comes
from
a
heart
and
from
passion
and
the
amount
of
diversity
he's
adding,
and
what
it's
going
to
add
to
this
neighborhood
is
an
amazing.
The
thing
is
coming
from
our
nonprofit.
AL
A
AM
Good
evening
my
name
is
Rachel
gulick
2310,
stanton,
Avenue
I
was
born
and
raised
in
Des.
Moines
grew
up
on
63rd
and
Franklin,
attended,
Roosevelt,
Drake
and
I
didn't
get
very
far
it
to
the
south
side.
I
guess
but
I
am
the
chair
of
the
girls
Rock
tech
studio
committee.
We
are
currently
in
the
process
of
building
the
first-ever
education-based
run
by
women
built
by
women.
Recording
studio
in
the
Midwest.
Second
in
the
nation
and
Jeff
has
so
graciously
offered
Franklin
junior
high
as
our
home
as
story
mentioned.
AM
AM
AM
You
know
when
I
think
about
property
values
and
how
that
would
affect
the
community.
This
space
now
becoming
in
a
taxable
space
is
exciting,
I.
Think
and
Jeff
is
not
the
individual.
That's
going
to
be
able
to
remedy
Des
Moines.
You
know
varying
property
tax
issue
if
we
could
call
it
that,
but
I
think
that
it's
a
step
in
a
positive
direction
that
I
support
as
a
community
member
and
small
business
owner
and
vested
individual,
and
so,
let's.
A
AM
So
we
modeled
girls,
rock
tech,
our
studio
off
of
the
women's
audio
mission
based
out
of
San,
Francisco,
California
and
ours
will
be
that's
professional
focused
for
you,
know
women
and
they
do
have
a
youth
outreach
program.
However,
ours
is
like
the
first.
Actually
that's
education
based
I'm,
going
to
say
in
the
nation
to
be
founded
purely
for
that
purpose
and
as
the
chair
that
committee,
you
know
some
of
the
goals
that
I
have
is
to
do,
for
example,
a
citywide
school
mixtape.
AM
You
know
getting
every
public
school
involved
to
do
a
collaborative
piece
like
an
album
and
working
with
folks
in
the
community
to
accomplish
that
as
we
speak,
so
we
are
hoping
to
be
recording
this
summer
for
the
first
time
while
we
have
camp
are
two
two-week
summer
camp
at
Franklin
as
story
mentioned.
Presently
we
keep
our
equipment
there.
N
N
AN
Know
it's
a
P
and
Miller
14
22
8th,
Street,
Des
Moines
I
did
grow
up
in
Beaverdale.
This
is
the
first
time
I've
been
excited
to
return
since
that
time,
not
the
beaver,
Dells,
not
great,
but
20
years,
was
enough
in
that
neighborhood.
For
me,
this
is
very
exciting.
I'm,
an
experienced
artist
that
has
been
folded
into
this
project
and
one
thing
that
I
wanted
to
make
a
point
of
is
that
in
a
sense,
Jeff
is
a
unicorn
of
sorts
I'm,
a
creative
and
in
the
type
of
work
that
I
do.
AN
It
is
hard
to
find
the
projects
that
allow
for
my
type
of
creativity
to
flourish
in
this
community
I'm
one
of
many
creative
individuals
on
the
team,
Teva
and
matt
who
folded
me
and
Trish
Meyers,
and
several
others
in
the
project
are
very
creatively
driven,
and
this
provides
an
outlet
as
well
as
an
you
know,
an
experience
whole
place
for
the
community.
So
let's
do
it.
Thank.
A
G
G
My
name
is
Melvin.
Free
I
live
at
nineteen.
Sixteen,
forty
seventh,
which
means
of
course,
that
this
project,
which
everybody
seems
to
be
enthused
of,
because
within
an
hour
about
300
feet
of
my
house,
that
is
very
concerning
to
me,
like
I,
think
the
county's
adjuster
will
have
to
be
concerned
too,
because
he's
gonna
have
to
adjust
the
property
values
of
everybody
on
48th
and
47th
Street.
G
U
I'm
Barbara
free
yeah
all
what
he
said
free.
We
have
your
address,
please
1916,
47th
Street.
Thank
you.
I
grew
up
in
Beaverdale
I
graduated
from
this
very
junior
high
many
years
ago.
We
have
according
to
what
the
plan
is.
Five
bars
within
300
feet
of
our
home
and
I
can't
believe
that
we
could
be
out
in
our
backyard
and
have
anything
but
a
lot
of
noise
that
a
lot
of
lights
going
on
in.
In
our
quiet
little
neighborhood
we
have
children
in
our
neighborhood.
U
The
lighting
and
the
noise
that
comes
from
that
area
that
it's
less
than
a
block
away,
and
we
can
hear
it
at
night
and
we
know
whenever
there's
festivities
going
on.
There
are
a
lot
of
good
things
that
happen
in
that
building
and
I
can
approve
of
all
of
them,
except
this
whole
idea
of
the
night
bars
and
the
outside
activities.
U
AO
Good
evening
my
name
is
Terry
pond
19:21
48th
Street
I
also
live
across
the
street.
I
I
too
want
to
give
great
respect
for
all
you,
people
who
have
come
in
tonight,
because
you
know
that's
what
this
is
about
and
I
appreciate.
All
the
things
you've
said,
I
think
there
are
great
things
happening
in
that
building,
but
I
too
have
great
concern
about
my
child
personally
and
the
children
in
the
neighborhood
and
the
children
in
the
venue.
I
think
that
we
are
we're
looking
at
that
property.
AO
That
is
going
to
do
very,
what's
doing
very
well
without
alcohol.
In
its
current
moment
now
it's
not
having
anything
outside.
There's,
not
noise.
There's
not
there's
not
a
bar.
There's,
not
a
restaurant.
There
they're
doing
exceptional
things
with
people
who
are
getting
things
into
a
community.
Bringing
things
in
I
really
do
worry
about
the
amount
of
traffic
coming
down.
My
street
we've
already
I
mean
we
have
I,
have
a
small
child.
I
have
a
dog.
My
dog
has
already
been
hit
on
that
Street.
AO
We've
had
multiple
accidents
at
the
corner
of
48th
and
Franklin,
where
cars
smashed
into
each
other,
because
there
are
stop
signs
there
and
they
don't
see
the
stop
sign.
The
car
parks
parking
on
that
street
cause
even
more
disruption
to
seeing
that
stop
sign.
We
have
all
sorts
of
things
that
that
are
going
on
in
that
venue,
so
I
really
think
that
we
can
do
without
the
alcohol.
In
addition,
I
am
an
educator.
I
work
in
Westmont,
Valley,
High,
School
I
have
a
hard
time
and
I.
AO
Don't
know
man
I'm,
not
an
expert
by
all
means.
Don't
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
that
I'm.
He
was
speaking
in
the
correct
context.
Here,
however,
I
have
looked
into
whether
or
not
alcohol
can
be
in
the
premise
with
a
school
venue
and
whether
the
Mana
story
could
be
taking
place.
When
there's
alcohol
on
this
venue
and
when
I
spoke
to
Jeff
about
it
at
the
meeting,
he
told
me
that
that
that
was
okay,
but
when
I
looked
into
it
brother
with
people
in
the
city,
they
told
me
absolutely
is
not.
AO
Maybe
we
don't
want
our
children
supposed
to
I
personally
like
to
live
in
my
home
with
my
windows,
open
I
like
to
have
the
night
air
coming
in
all
night
long
I,
certainly
don't
want
to
have
to
listen
to
people
swearing
and
yelling
and
and
I
understand
that
it's
not
going
you
know.
Jeff
was
very
clear
about
it,
not
being
a
bar
like
Miss
Kitty's.
It's
just
gonna
be
a
venue
but
I.
You
know
alcohol
brings
noise
and
there's
just
no
way
around.
AO
That
I
would
really
encourage
you
to
think
about
if
this
was
your
home
and
your
family
or
your
grandchildren,
or
your
young
little
ones
having
to
experience
that
night
after
night
after
night,
there's
there's
it's
taking
away
from
my
life.
Family
and
I
didn't
move
to
this
property
to
be
across
from
a
commercial
venue.
I
moved
this
property
to
live
in
beavertail
because
it
has
a
small
town
feel
because
I
can
stand
at
the
corner
and
talk
to
my
neighbors
and
enjoy
my
little
peaceful
town
and
I'm
point.
It's
gonna
be
taken
away
from
me.
AO
In
addition,
there's
the
Terra
Park,
that's
right
next
door
that
is
going
to
put
in
a
brand
new
water
facility,
this
summer,
they're
printing
in
a
water
sprayer
park.
So
now
we're
gonna
pull
more
kids
into
that
neighborhood
to
come
and
play
who
are
going
to
be
walking
past
a
venue
where
we're
serving
alcohol
and
drinking
beer
and
swearing
and
yelling
and
all
sorts
of
things
I
think
that's
a
bad
impact
on
our
city.
AO
The
building
I
think
can
function
at
extreme
extreme
positive
things
in
our
community
without
having
to
serve
alcohol
without
having
to
be
a
brewery
and
I.
Don't
know
if
we
have
the
capability
of
a
committee
to
say
we
pass
all
these
things
without
this
again
I'm
out
of
my
world
here,
I
teach
high
school
science
I,
don't
know
what
you
all
do
and
I
appreciate
what
you
do,
but
but
I
would
love
to
see
it
be
shut
down
in
the
alcohol
venue.
AO
In
addition,
I
would
just
speak
to
just
the
idea
of
of
the
patios
Beaverdale
it
at
like
many
areas
of
our
city
has
a
very
antiquated
water
drainage
system.
As
you
know,
the
city
has
passed
some
provisions
to
try
to
improve
that
problem.
We
already
have
ridiculous
amount
of
water
on
our
streets,
the
water
floods
into
my
basement,
the
water
floods
onto
48th
Street.
AO
Sometimes
when
it's
raining,
it
is
literally
a
river
in
my
front
yard,
and
it
is
there's
just
not
enough
strange,
the
more
cement,
the
more
patio,
the
more
area
that
we
put
down
in,
that
cement
means
more
water
to
our
streets
and
I,
think
that
will
fall
into
our
streets
and
into
our
sewer
systems
that
is
not
prepared
to
handle
that
into
our
homes
that
are
not
to
that
I'm.
Also
speaking,
a
little
bit
about
the
building,
the
Facebook
of
earlier
Mercy
Hospital
I
supposedly,
has
been
purchased.
AO
By
probably
understand
this
Hubble
snail
property
in
the
future.
What
I
understand
them
to
do
is
build
a
senior
residence
there.
I
cannot
imagine
any
senior
wanting
to
live
across
the
street
from
a
patio
in
a
bar
I.
Just
do
not
see
anyone
wanting
to
do
that.
So
then,
where
does
that
bring
value
to
my
community?
So
again,
I
would
just
urge
to
look
at
that
and
think
about
those
things
that
were,
as
we
think,
about
I'm,
not
I'm,
not
against
progress.
AO
I
certainly
do
not
want
that
building
to
be
shut
down,
I,
don't
think,
there's
any
intentions
of
think
people.
Thinking
it's
going
to
sit
empty.
No
one
wants
to
see
Jeff
go
I,
don't
think
my
community,
the
people
who
are
voting
against
it
are
at
all
against
any
of
the
things
that
are
happening.
They
just
think
that
this
vision
can
happen
without
it
being
an
alcoholic
venue.
D
V
Door
looks
right
out
on
that
tower
that
you
see
on
the
building
and
across
the
street
from
my
front
door.
It
still
says:
Benjamin,
Franklin,
junior
high
school
and
cement
and
I've
lived
there.
I've
I
moved
into
the
area
when
the
church
was
fading
away
and
then
it
moved
away
so
I've
lived
there
in
the
prime
years.
I
I
didn't
live
there
when
it
was
a
school
and
I'm
concerned
about
the
introduction
of
alcohol
into
the
neighborhood.
I've
got
nothing
against
alcohol.
V
I've
got
some
beer
in
my
refrigerator
at
home,
I've
got
a
bottle
of
white
zinfandel,
but
I
know
how
to
deal
with
it
and
not
everybody
in
Des.
Moines
knows
how
to
deal
with
it.
I
grew
up
in
Highland
Park,
my
parents
and
grandparents
who
lived
on
Columbia
just
three
blocks
north
of
the
building
that
at
that
time
was
warren
g,
harding,
jr.,
high
school
and.
N
V
Attended
that
school
for
ten
years,
because
back
in
the
day
before
world
war
ii,
it
was
also
a
sailor
Elementary
School
in
the
West
Wing
along
Cambridge,
so
I
I've
I've
lived
in
at
19
1948
Street
for
six
years
and
my
main
concern
I
know
that
it
needs
to
be
developed
into
something
other
than
an
empty
building.
But
my
concern
is
about
the
introduction
of
alcohol
into
a
residential
neighborhood
other
than
what
I've
got
in
my
refrigerator
and
and
that's
my
medium
to
the
rest.
V
You
know
it
sounds
private,
elementary
intermediate
school
event,
space
with
rental
for
the
existing
gymnasium,
small
and
large
auditoriums
fine,
even
a
thirty
guestroom
boutique
hotel,
but
five
separate
taverns,
a
craft
brewery
with
production
for
on
sale
consumption.
How
would
you
like
to
have
that
right
across
the
street
from
your
front
door?
Those
of
you
who
are
on
this
committee
or
whatever
it
is?
Consider
that?
Would
you
like
to
have
that
developed
right
across
the
street
from
your
front
door?
I
just
got
my
tax
Eva.
V
The
someplace
is
going
to
get
really
noisy
I
got
in
the
bed
habit
of
falling
down
without
benefit
of
alcohol
by
the
way,
starting
in
January
of
2017,
five
major
Falls
and
I
spent
six
and
a
half
months
in
hospitals
and
nursing
homes
and
I.
Tell
you
after
I
got
home
on
October
31st
of
2017
after
six
and
a
half
months
in
a
nursing
home
I,
never
appreciated
that
word
that
spelled
home2
now
and
I.
Just
hope
that
I'm
gonna
be
able
to
live
there
until
Hamilton's
funeral
home
hauls
me
away.
AP
AP
We
never
had
water
in
our
basement
for
seven
years
and
then
they
put
the
parking
lot
in
we've
had
water
in
our
basement
every
year
would
put
some
pumps
and
what-have-you
in
there,
but
that's
and
we
have
a
lot
of
flooding
out
on
the
streets.
Also
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
Franklin
I
know
people
are
got,
30
rooms
are
going
to
be
there,
and
people
are
going
to
eat
there.
You're
going
to
be
coming
down.
63Rd
Street
off
the
freeway,
63rd
and
Franklin
to
48th
and
Franklin
is
not
really
much
of
a
street
I.
AP
Don't
think
it's
been
worked
on
for
years.
I'm
also
concerned
about
the
traffic.
We
have
a
lot
of
traffic
now
with
the
stoplight
and
we
need
a
stoplight
on
Hickman.
We
also
need
something
at
48th
and
Franklin,
there's
so
many
people
that
do
not
they
think
they're
in
the
residential
area
and
they
crash
all
the
time.
AP
Joanne
and
I
were
out
walking
the
other
morning.
The
Sun
was
blinding
a
guy
and
he
just
blew
right
through
the
stop
sign
and
and
people
were
honking
at
him
and
everything
I'm
also
concerned
about
I,
don't
like
to
see
five
taverns
there.
They
alcohol
I,
have
no
problem
with.
If
you
have
a
restaurant
that
you
get
a
drink
or
two,
but
that's
my
concerns.
Thank
you.
Thank
you
very
much.
AQ
My
name
is
Tom
Capano
and
I
live
in
West
Des,
Moines,
Iowa,
301,
47th,
Street
and
I
am
the
majority
owner
of
Franklin
Court
Apartments,
and
that's
right
right
there
right
across
the
street,
we
have
182
units
we're
full.
We
usually
are
full
because
we
keep
our
prices
down
and
we
have
a
lot
of
older
people.
Lots
of
older
people
there
and
I
have
been
involved
20
years
ago,
open
with
seven
flags
event.
Center
and
I
was
on
the
wrong
side
of
that
deal
because
we
were
having
these
concerts
and
I
can
tell
you.
AQ
The
neighbors
did
not
like
it,
because
he
these
bands
were
real
loud
and
a
lot
of
drinking
going
on,
and
it
was
not
something
that
they
liked
in
their
neighborhood.
I
can
tell
you
that
and
then,
a
few
years
later
they
put
a
bar
behind
my
house
in
West
Des
Moines
on
50th,
and
you
know
all
the
homes
along
there.
They
just
you'd
have
to
listen
to
it.
I
mean
you'd
have
to
listen
to
it.
You
didn't
want.
You
didn't
want
to
go
out
in
your
back
porch
because
it
was
so
noisy.
AQ
AQ
Please
don't
let
them
don't
do
an
outside
thing.
Don't
do
an
outside
terrace,
because
there's
there's
just
too
many
people
that
live
there
and
they
don't
want
to
listen
to
that.
I
can
tell
you.
I
can
get
a
list
of
names
from
the
people
live
along
that
side
and
they're
not
going
to
be
happy
and
I,
don't
want
to
lose
good
tenants
because
they
can't
stand
the
noise
and
it
and
just
so
it's
the
outside
thing.
AQ
That
scares
me
that
they
have
a
something
outside
because
I've
been
there
done
that
and
I
really
think
will
hurt
and
it
is
a
quiet
neighborhood.
It
is
it's.
You
know.
I
development
is
great
as
long
as
this
is
in
the
right
place,
but,
like
I,
say
I,
don't
have
any
object
to
a
hotel
or
restaurant
school.
AQ
A
Y
Linley
can't
newman
Munson
again
for
18:6
avenue,
she's
gonna
flip
back
to
the
the
plan,
so
we
can
reference
that
as
we're
kind
of
talking
through
these.
So
we've
we've
heard
about
a
number
of
concerns:
noise,
light
that
alcohol
sales
and
bars
as
well
as
stormwater,
so
I'm
talking
about
the
the
noise
we
kind
of
talked
a
little
bit
about
that
about
where
we're
placing
things
on
this
site
trying
to
be
cognizant
of
that
also,
you
know
a
lot
of
the
noise
concerns
is
talking
about
taverns
right
and
we
went
over.
Y
You
know
that
we
have
one
dedicated
bar,
it's
actually
on
the
second
floor
inside
the
building,
there's
no
exterior
space
of
that
everything
else
is
associated
with
a
restaurant
or
it's
for
concessions
for
the
actual
event
spaces.
So
I
think
it
would
be
a
misconception
to
think
about
that
outdoor
space
as
outdoor
bar.
It's
it's
really
gonna
function
like
we
said
as
a
family-friendly
atmosphere.
We
have
that
play
area
there,
that
that
is
not
the
intent
and
it's
also
placed
on
Franklin
Avenue,
which
you
know
across
the
street.
Y
Those
are
commercial
properties
there
and
it's
right
in
the
middle
of
the
block,
trying
to
do
our
best
to
keep
that
away
from
the
residential
area.
As
far
as
light
goes,
that's
one
of
the
conditions
in
in
that
this
PUD
approval
is
to
make
sure
everything's
cut
off
we're
not
throwing
light
additionally
to
the
neighbors,
we're
not
really
changing
any
of
the
parking.
Y
That's
currently
there
that
that'll
stay,
as
is
if,
if
that
needs
to
change
to
meet
these
conditions,
you
know
that
that
may
happen,
but
we're
not
we're
not
adding
additional
light
into
the
neighbors
windows.
As
far
as
the
bars
go,
we
talked
about
again
that
we
only
have
the
one
dedicated
bar
the
three
other
locations,
so
the
cafe
the
restaurant
that
we
have
two
restaurants
inside
the
building
and
that
cafe
those
would
have
an
alcohol
sale
component.
Y
This
sort
of
thing
it's
a
very
large
project-
and
this
is
we're
talking
one
classroom-
is
a
bar.
You
know
that
the
alcohol
sales
kind
of
talking
about
not
having
it
as
part
of
the
project,
I
think
that
you
know
that's
a
huge
revenue
generator.
You
know
getting
getting
people
to
come
there
I
think
that
would
really
hurt
the
project
not
having
it.
Y
You
know
that
the
alcohol
permit
and
license
the
whole
separate
process
as
well
that
we
still
have
to
apply
for,
and
all
of
that,
so
you
know
some
of
these
conversations
can
carry
on
as
well
as
well
as
it's
a
condition
in
this
beauty'
approval
that
if
you
know
it's
not
taken
care
of
properly
that
that
could
be
revoked
you
guys
talked
about
that
is
all
under
one
ownership
as
well.
You
know
these
are
not
multiple
tavern
owners.
Y
Y
We
we
haven't
had
any
of
those
concerns.
That's
the
first
time
I'm
hearing
of
it
tonight,
you
know
on
obviously,
as
we
move
forward
with
this
we'd
have
to
make
sure
all
those
those
codes
and
regulations
are
met.
So
absolutely,
if
that's,
if
that's
a
problem,
then
we'll
have
to
deal
with
that
debt
and
down
the
road,
but
I'm
not
aware
of
any,
and
obviously
there
are
a
number
of
mixed-use
aspects
of
this
of
this
building.
Y
X
X
I
think
the
reason
why
we
added
this
image
and
then
the
following
image:
this
is
from
the
Kennedy
School
you
can
see
in
terms
of
scale
and
density,
there's
residential
housing
around
and
program
aspects
that
we
mentioned
are
around
it,
so
the
alcohol,
obviously
businesses
will
be
cognizant
of
that,
and
the
management
would
be
cognizant
of
the
idea
of
the
impact
of
alcohol
within
office
facilities.
The
other
thing
is
most
of
the
events
that
you
would
think
would
be
in
the
evenings
and
daytime
operations.
X
C
X
Not
I
was
there
20
25
years
ago,
and
some
of
the
areas
where
these
developments
have
happened
has
actually
helped
revitalize
those
neighborhoods.
And
if
you
walk
around
and
even
do
a
Google
Streetview,
you
will
see
the
density
of
the
neighborhood
compared
to
even
on
Franklin
and
48th.
It's
is
much
higher,
so.
Y
I
was
just
gonna
get
to
that,
and
actually
just
tying
to
what
College
was
saying
as
well.
I
think
you
know
property
property
values
we
actually
see
likely
increasing
I
think
this
will
add
a
huge
amenity
to
the
neighborhood,
and
we
think
people
will
want
to
be
by
that.
Not
not
the
other
direction
as
far
as
the
storm
water
goes
we're
actually
not
adding
any
additional
hard
scape
to
the
project,
we're
actually
removing
some
hard
scape.
So
all
of
those
those
patio
areas
that
garden
area
we
talked
about
the
kind
of
crunchy
crunchy
pathways.
Y
W
D
Y
K
AK
Y
That
there
is
where
we're
planning
those
the
soaking
pools,
similar
to
what
we
showed
in
in
the
Kennedy
School,
the
the
small
smaller
one
with
the
tree.
That's
still
currently,
there
I
miss
playing
to
be
kind
of
the
more
Zen
garden
and
then
the
larger
one,
we're
planning
on
creating
a
space
that
is
a
secure
school
play
area
for
for
that
school,
as
well
as
some
social
kind
of
gathering
space.
D
A
Y
I'm
actually
not
familiar
with
the
traffic
study,
I'm,
not
sure
I.
Think
tiba
can
come
up
and
talk
to
that
a
little
bit,
but
there
were
not
any
comments
from
from
traffic,
at
least
on
this
initial
PUD
pass-through,
so
that
that's
definitely
a
good
sign
there.
As
far
as
the
parking
staff
goes,
you
know
when
you
think
about
events
downtown
you
have
somebody,
that's
Manning,
you
know
parking
lots
directing
people,
you
know
what
spot
to
go
to
taking.
Y
You
know,
potentially
money
I,
don't
know
if
they'd
be
charging
the
park
here
or
not,
but
there
would
be
staff
there
that
would
be
able
to
direct
traffic,
ensure
that
people
are
not
parking
where
they're
not
supposed
to
be
parking.
You
know
on
48th
or
Franklin
that
sort
of
thing
49
any
of
the
surrounding
streets.
Z
I
can
speak
to
the
traffic
study,
which
is
required,
as
you
all
know,
and
it
models
out
full
build-out,
all
all
the
things
that
you
see
it
models.
What
that
impact
will
be.
That
study
came
back
with
not
recommending
that
the
developer
be
responsible
for
making
any
changes
that
the
current
current
roadway
system
can
handle
all
of
that
traffic
and
they
even
made
him
to
maybe
the
light
at
Hickman
may
not
even
be
needed,
and
the
city
engineer
had
concurred
with
that
study.
Z
A
AD
To
see
if
you
had
any
additional
question,
I
think
he
handled
our
Canadians
at
2:45.
So
we
if
we
were
going
until
midnight
or
I
and
would
have
more
concerns,
we've
become
quite
a
little
neighborhood
school
quickly
and
the
parents
understand
the
vision
for
the
project
and
where
it
was
headed
and
are
also
bought
into
this
community.
So
thank.
A
J
Just
for
the
benefit
of
the
audience,
so
your
recommendation
tonight
will
be
forwarded
to
the
City
Council.
That's
anticipated,
April,
22nd
and
then
the
public
hearing
there
will
be
another
public
hearing
where
the
council
will
make
the
final
decision
that
is,
should
be
scheduled
for
May
6
in
Council
Chambers
at
City
Hall.
It
won't
be
in
this
location.
It
will
be
at
City
Hall.
The
developer
will
be
notified
of
that
information
and
his
consultant
at
will
as
well.
J
A
While
you're
there
Linna
I,
guess
we'll
make
sure
absolutely
so
one
of
the
recommendations
is
that
the
plan
is
due
to
come
back
for
the
final
development
plan.
So
what
you're
describing
now
is
the
timeline
that
will
occur
after
this
meeting
and
then
there
will
be
the
council
meeting
and
then
let's
say
that
the
plan
is
approved.
A
J
I
Right
so
and
just
to
clarify
those
are
tentative
dates:
you're
throwing
out
for
things
going
to
council.
They
need
to
talk
to
the
clerk's
office
to
confirm
the
dates
of
those
hearings
we
had
on
recently
on
the
Des
Moines
University
request,
we'd
stated
some
dates
and
then
it
ended
up
being
actually
a
hearing
set
for
mid-april,
and
so
that
can't
happen
so
I
guess
I
would
just
advise
people
to
check
with
the
City
Clerk's
office
on
any
meeting
dates.
That's.
J
A
fair
point:
we've
had
two
developers
request
continuances
for
months
in
the
last
last
two
months.
So
that's
definitely
a
fair
point.
You'll
need
to
probably
look
at
the
City
Council
agenda.
Studen
date.
The
hearing
will
be
set
for,
but
our
schedule,
if
it
stays
on
schedule,
would
be
April
22nd
for
council
to
receive
the
recommendation
and
then
May
6th
for
the
hearing.
Thank
you
all.
AR
Let
me
lead
off:
I've
lived
in
Beaverdale
for
14
years,
I
lived,
three
blocks
in
the
project,
I've
had
friends
and
neighbors
on
both
sides
of
the
issue
weighing
in
and
I.
Consider
this
important
issue
and
I
want
to
use
a
balancing
act.
I
do
think
this
is
some
of
the
comments
are
overblown
regarding
crime
in
the
neighborhood
there's
no
more
crime
beaver
down
than
there
is
in
most
of
them.
Most
arrogance
of
mine
crime
is
part
of
living
in
America.
It's
not
limited
to
urban
areas.
AR
Secondly,
I
think
Franklin
Avenue
needs
help
a
lot
of
empty
buildings.
Are
there
there's?
Also
a
methadone
clinic
there?
I
think
is,
so
we
need
to
move
in
the
right
direction
too,
increase
the
economic
activity
and
in
favor
of
adding
the
profit
or
profit
business.
That's
actually
well
people
paying
taxes.
So
it's
a
benefit
also
address
the
issue
of
alcohol
over
at
Urbandale
Avenue
and
Beaver
Avenue.
AR
There
are
several
alcohol
establishments,
and
people
are
still
investing
in
homes,
home
property
values
are
increasing
and
I
know
a
personal
friend
of
mine
as
purchased
and
torn
down
an
old
house
and
built
a
three
hundred
thousand
dollar
plus
house.
That's
within
300
feet
of
several
alcohol
establishments
at
that
intersection.
AR
I
believe
that
this
would
be
a
benefit
I
understand
their
concerns
and
I
acknowledge
that
I
think
we
should
accept
the
Department
and
staff
recommendation
and
I
would
not
exclude
15
because
of
I
would
like
to
address
the
concerns
of
anyone's
who's
concerned
about
alcohol
and
noise
and
traffic.
So
I
make
a
motion
that
we
adopt
the
staff
recommendation
as
written
all.
A
Right,
it
has
been
moved
that
staff
recommend
approval
of
the
request
to
amend
plan
des
moines,
creating
our
tomorrow
future
land
designation
from
neighborhood
mix
used
to
community
mix
used,
that's
perfect,
be
I,
think
a
part.
A
is
recommending
that
the
proposed
rezoning.
We
found
that,
in
conformance
with
the
existing
plan
des
moines,
land
use,
designation
of
niquist
Part
B
and
the
Part
C
is
recommending
approval
of
the
request
to
rezone
the
property
from
limited
c1
neighborhood
commercial
to
PUD,
which
is
a
Planned
Unit
development
and
then
Part
D.
B
I
Will
not
have
to
get
a
conditional
use
permit
because
it's
a
PUD
zoning,
so
that's
I
mean,
for
example,
we've
had
a
couple
of
C
stores
that
have
come
in
for
for
Planned
Unit
development.
They
don't
have
to
meet
the
separation
distance.
Okay
for
commercial
business.
In
that
instance,
they
still
would
have
to
get
an
alcohol
license
from
the
City
Council.
So
that's
a
state
state
function
that
the
City
Council
issues
those
licenses
and
then
the
PUD
condition
includes
what
is
typically
allowed
under
Board
of
Adjustment
review,
where
the
zoning
enforcement
officer
can
take.
I
B
Yes,
make
this
want
to
make
few
statements
or
comments
as
long
as
this
is
I
appreciate
everyone
coming
tonight,
and
all
these
thoughts
I
to
them
would
be
Beaverdale
resident,
been
there
17
years,
just
around
the
corner.
From
my
41st
place
and
one
of
the
things
that's
super
dynamic
about
many
of
our
neighborhoods
in
Des
Moines
is
the
walkability
to
different
types
of
places
to
eat,
entertain,
have
fun,
etc,
and
so
for
me
this,
this
is
actually
a
very
exciting
project.
B
We
need
to
continue
to
revitalize
our
neighborhoods.
They
need
to
continue
to
flourish.
I
agree,
you
know
what
little
I
know
of
what
Franklin
used
to
be.
It's
obviously
not
that
any
longer,
but
there
is
an
opportunity
here
to
maybe
jumpstart
that
and
in
a
positive
way,
I'm
very
excited
about
this
I
am
I.
Also,
would
agree
that
number
15
should
stay
in
I
do
think
it
should
come
back.
Hopefully,
at
that
time
there
can
be
a
little
bit
more
explanation
from
the
team
about
where
the
uses
are
planned
to
be
within
the
building.
A
A
Ex-Patriot
want
to
be
heard
of
neighborhood
and
went
to
ellis
elementary
school
and
I
went
to
Franklin.
Junior
I
was
the
junior
high
and
so
often
we,
those
of
us
who
went
during
my
time
bemoaned
you
know
the
fact
that
when
we
were
there,
the
neighborhood
west
right
vein-
and
you
know,
with
some
fun
place,
to
go
to
school
and
I.
Remember
all
the
stories
that
they
are
describing
and
I
think
that
when
you
live
in
Des
Moines
matter
where
you
live,
you
always
like
your
childhood
neighborhood.
A
A
AM
A
T
A
B
C
C
Site
plan
is
noted,
the
staff
report
we
previously
approved
a
staff
level
site
plan
that
included
the
underground
utilities,
so
the
applicant
can
move
forward,
knowing
that
they
would
need
more
time
to
come
back
to
you
with
tonight's
request,
which
is
to
defer
the
requirement
of
underground
the
utilities,
a
staff
we
are
recommending
denial.
We
believe
it
should
be
done
at
the
time
of
the
project
as
other
projects
we
did
provide
with
you
in
the
report.
Some
language
I
believe
you
should
have
received
a
copy
of
corrected
language
from
before
the
staff
report.
C
A
AS
Don't
think
I've
ever
been
last
after
something
that
long
before
so
Angie.
Thank
you
with
Christians
and
development,
215
East
third
suite
300.
Our
client
is
Lincoln
Savings
Bank
and,
of
course,
everybody
wants
their
utilities
under
grounded.
But
after
talking
with
mid-american,
the
thing
that's
going
to
trigger
the
utilities
on
Ingersoll
is
when
Midas
moves
out
at
the
corner
of
MLK
and
Ingersoll,
which
I
believe
you
guys.
Q
AS
There
may
our
comes
from
right
here
on
the
corner
and
so
they're
not
going
to
know
where
to
set
their
transformers
or
how
they're
running
down
Ingersoll
until
something
different
happens
on
Midas.
So
I
have
my
phone
that
may
be
so
working,
but
on
that
south
side
of
Ingersoll
there
are
10
above
ground
power
lines
and
with
us
under
grounding
we'd
only
get
rid
of
one.
AS
N
AS
There
we
go
that
we
would
escrow
for
the
funds,
and
my
only
comment
to
that
is
with
the
client
being
at
the
bank.
They
would
prefer
to
do
a
letter
of
credit
and
I
did
talk
to
them
today,
and
they
can
do
a
letter
of
credit
for
any
duration
that
you
would
like
them
to
do
a
letter
of
credit.
Otherwise
we
agree
to
the
conditions
that
we
would
underground
as
soon
as
the
property
to
the
west
did.
My
only
comment
would
be.
T
AS
You
can
see
this
big
mess
here,
that's
what
they
need
to
clean
up,
but
they
can't
until
something
happens,
different
on
that
corner
and
then,
as
you
come
down
and
yourself
on
the
south
side,
they
are
all
above
ground
power
lines,
all
the
way
down
to
18th
Street.
So
the
only
one
we
would
be
getting
rid
of
right.
N
T
AS
So
in
our
mind
and
and
that's
the
that's
the
way
it
works
and
that's
fine,
but
in
our
mind
now,
that's
another
10
years
out
or
more
before
they're
gonna
come
through
and
try
to
bury
their
utilities
directly
on
the
other
side
of
us.
So
and
I
don't
disagree,
it
looks
better
it
in
this
case.
It
just
doesn't
make
any
sense
for
us
or
our
client
to
do
this.
T
AS
And
I
think
some
of
these
I
talked
to
Mike
earlier
I
think
we
had
to
submit
to
site
plans.
So
I
think
some
of
these
comments
already
taken
care
of
as
far
as
the
understory
trees
versus
overstory
trees,
but
they
had
to
deny
our
first
site
plan,
and
so
we
will
get
that
all
worked
out.
Yes,
we
agree
with
that.
AS
A
H
H
I
Recall
the
King
Sweyn
Cathedral
up
in
Sherman
Hill,
they
wanted
to
the
neighborhood,
hasn't
done
their
lighting
design
for
the
neighborhood.
So
we
authorized
a
best
girl
in
that
situation
for
funds
to
go
in
for
future
lighting
changes.
We've
talked
with
a
couple
of
other
projects
in
the
Sherman
Hill
neighborhood
that
same
thing.
The
neighborhood
needs
to
come
up
with
their
lighting
plan
before
we
extend
the
lighting,
so
the
developers
in
order
to
be
able
to
move
forward.
I
We're
saying
put
money
in
escrow
equivalent
to
what
you
would
do
today
be
required
to
do
today
and
then,
when
the
neighborhood
gets
their
plan
together,
then
we'll
put
those
funds
towards
installing
what
the
neighborhood
plan
calls
for
those
are
two
instances.
We
also
did
an
escrow
agreement
on
on
ingersoll
further
to
the
west,
and
that
was
with
roers
development
on
the
pedestrian
crossing
light
at
23rd
and
Ingersoll.
They
did
an
escrow
for
that
and
then
we
it
was
up
for
50%
of
the
cost
in
that
instance.
So
we've
used
it
before
on
several
projects.
J
In
society
right,
thank
you.
So,
regarding
those
four
agreements,
we've
done,
those
that
I
had
seen
from
either
five
or
were
proposing
ten
years
on
one
and
the
letter
of
credit.
Typically,
you
know
I
feel
like
there's
an
exception
in
this
case,
because
it
is
a
bank
and
they've
said
that
they
can
do
for
an
for
an
indefinite
duration,
so
I
think
we
should
I
would
ask
as
staff
member,
that
you
put
iterate
long-duration
on
that
for
an
individual
or
an
individual
developer.
J
AS
We
all
hope
that
Midas
is
gone
in
the
next
five
to
ten
years,
which
will
force
us
to
do
this,
which
is
what
we
want
to
clean
that
up.
So
I
think
if
you
could
do
five
or
ten
whatever
you
guys
are
comfortable
with,
but
the
bank
I
mean
without
you
controlling
Midas
or
me
controlling
lightest,
it's
hard
to
say
so.
I
think
ten
years
would
definitely
be
safe,
but
I
will
listen
to
whatever
you
guys.
How.