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Des Moines Plan & Zoning Commission meeting on Thursday, May 16, 2019 in Des Moines, Iowa.
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A
Welcome
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
meeting
tonight,
I'm
gonna
start
off
by
reading
the
rules
and
procedures.
The
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
is
generally
an
advisory
body
to
the
City
Council.
The
City
Council
will
hold
a
public
hearing
and
make
the
final
decision
on
all
matters
before
the
Commission
other
than
site
plans
and
subdivision
plots
unless
denials
or
conditional
approvals
thereof
are
appealed.
Please
contact
the
city,
clerk
or
Community
Development
Department
staff
for
details
on
council
hearings.
A
The
applicant
will
be
given
ten
minutes
to
present
the
request
proponents,
and
then
opponents
from
the
public
are
then
allowed
to
speak
in
that
order
with
each
speaker
allowed
a
maximum
of
five
minutes.
The
applicant
is,
then
allowed
five
minutes
for
a
rebuttal.
The
hearing
will
then
be
closed
and
the
Commission
will
discuss
and
vote
on
the
issue.
All
comments
are
to
be
germane
to
the
item
under
consideration,
and
the
speakers
are
to
maintain
a
concur,
Tia's
manner.
A
Items
listed
on
the
consent
portion
of
the
agenda
will
not
be
individually
discussed
and
will
be
considered
for
approval,
in
accordance
with
the
recommendation
in
the
staff
report,
unless
an
individual
present
or
a
member
of
the
Commission
requests
that
the
item
be
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
and
considered
separately
under
the
public
hearing
agenda,
the
City
of
Des
Moines
is
pleased
to
provide
accommodations
to
individuals
or
groups
with
disabilities
and
encourages
participation
in
city
government.
Assistive
listening
devices
are
available
for
meetings
in
the
MC
boardroom
to
better
serve
you
when
possible.
A
Please
notify
us
at
least
three
business
days
in
advance.
Should
special
accommodations
be
required.
Planning,
Zoning,
Commission
meetings
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broadcast
on
Mediacom,
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channel
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one
or
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Please
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until
5:00
p.m.
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day.
A
Prior
to
the
meeting,
please
be
sure
to
mention
in
your
request
that
you
require
transportation
for
the
City
of
Des
Moines
meetings
at
this
location.
This
notice
is
intended
to
comply
with
accessibility
requirements
of
the
Americans
with
Disabilities
Act.
We
believe
we
have
a
quorum
approval
of
the
minutes
from
the
last
meeting.
I.
C
A
All
right,
nothing
I
should
set
any
corrections,
but,
okay,
all
right
all
in
favor.
Okay,
here
we
go
I'm.
The
item
passed.
Okay,
we're
gonna
turn
our
attention.
Right
now
to
the
consent
items
we
have
three
on
the
consent
agenda
number
one
request
from
Linda
Casas
and
Richard
Anderson
8:27
Skye
Avenue
for
vacation
of
the
north-south
alley
between
southeast
8th
Street
and
South
East,
9th
Street
from
Scott
Avenue
to
the
vacated
east/west
alley.
It's
your
anyone
in
the
audience
who
wishes
to
pull.
This
item
want
to
hear
this
item.
A
Anyone
on
the
Commission
number
three
request
from
Galway
homes
represented
by
Jim
Potts
MA
for
review
and
approval
of
a
preliminary
plat
for
via
335
on
property,
located
at
335
Forest
Avenue
to
divide
the
existing
2.6
acre
property
into
24
Lots
for
row
townhomes
and
a
common
outlet.
Anyone
in
the
audience
wish
to
hear
this
item.
Yes,
okay!
So
we'll
pull
that
from
the
consent,
any
other
items
that
could
be
possibly
moved
to
consent.
D
A
So
I'll
read
those
right
now:
number
four
requests
from
HRC
and
ffs
represented
by
Chris
Cazadores
for
review
and
approval
of
the
development
plan.
Fusion
east
within
the
grade
station
PUD
for
property
located
at
1170
Tuttle
Street,
to
allow
development
of
a
three-story
eighteen
unit.
Row,
multiple
family
dwelling,
complex.
Anyone
in
the
audience
wish
to
hear
that
item.
A
E
A
I
do
that.
Thank
you.
Number
five
requests
from
HRC
and
FS
represented
again
by
Chris
odorous
for
review
and
approval
of
the
development
plan.
Fusion
West
within
the
grade
station
PUD
for
property
located
at
1240
Tuttle
to
allow
development
of
a
three-story
27
unit
row,
multiple
family
dwelling
complex.
Anyone
in
the
audience
wish
to
hear
that
item.
A
Anyone
on
the
commission,
okay,
we'll
move
that
to
consent;
number
seven
requests
from
archway
development
group
represented
by
Michael
Donnellan
for
review
and
approval
of
a
site
plan,
bartenders
handshake
under
design
guidelines
in
NPC
districts
for
property,
located
at
36:19
Ingersoll
Avenue,
to
allow
for
renovation
of
a
936
square
foot
commercial,
tenant,
BAE.
Anyone
in
the
audience
wish
to
hear
that
item.
A
D
A
D
Madam
chair
item
9
has
requested
a
continuance
to
to
the
June
6th
meeting
in
order
to
they're
doing
some
revision
to
the
project
and
they've
also
submitted
a
request
related
to
the
project
for
some
subsurface
vacation
rights,
vacation
of
subsurface
rights,
so
they
they
would
like
to
be
on
the
June
6th
agenda.
Okay,.
A
A
D
A
Three
item
three:
so
we're
ready
for
the
public
hearing
and
we
will
start
with
item
grading
request
from
Galway
homes
represented
by
Jim
Potts
months
to
review
and
approve
of
the
preliminary
plot
for
via
3:35
on
property,
located
335
Forest
Avenue
to
divide
the
existing
2.6
acre
property
into
24
lives.
Four
row
townhomes
and
a
common
outlet
will
the
applicant
come
forward?
Is
the
applicant
here
folks
don't
search
school.
D
D
D
D
D
I
H
D
K
The
Michigan
is
Jim
pulse
Mon
I
live
at
12:47,
41st
Street
des
moines,
yeah
I
started
this
about
three
years
ago
and
it's
within
a
couple
blocks
of
Mercy
Hospital
and
Mercy
Hospital
removed
about
200
apartments.
They
had
there,
they're
gonna
be
owner-occupied,
and
I
thought
it
would
be
a
great
improvement
to
the
neighborhood
I
didn't
realize
anybody
had
any
objection
to
it
until
a
couple
minutes
ago.
So
this
is
I
mean,
like
Eric,
said,
I
think
this
is
all
button
approved.
A
L
So
my
name
is
Risha
Weber
I
resigned
at
2909
Deepwoods
court.
My
property
is
sitting
on
the
east
end
of
this
planned
development,
which
would
be
two
one:
nine
Forest
Avenue
I
am
the
property
owner
or
manager
at
this
point
of
that
property,
not
really
sure
what
I
can
say
here.
So,
let's
get
started,
I
appreciate,
Steve's
comment:
I
am
all
for
helping
that
area
develop.
It's
obviously
going
to
help
my
property.
L
What
I'm
concerned
about
is
the
things
that
have
happened
in
developing
to
get
the
property
ready
for
Steve.
So
when
the
trees
were
excavated,
which
was
a
very
large
tree
excavation,
my
property
was
damaged.
During
that
time
a
tree
fell
on
my
gutter
and
caused
damage.
The
excavating
company
gave
me
a
hundred
bucks
tapped.
It
said
it's
good,
but
since
then
I've
been
getting
puddling
in
the
front
yard,
really
bad
puddling.
That
I'm
concerned
about
they
also
put
up
a
commercial
line
or
a
commercial
fence
to
protect
the
property.
L
I
have
a
residential
small
fence
and
they've
hooked,
the
fences
up
so
now
my
fence
is
damaged,
I
removed
it
myself,
and
someone
came
back
and
put
it
up
so
I
had
pictures
my
landscaping
in
the
backyard
as
they
removed
the
trees
and
they
came
with
their
cranes.
They
came
into
my
property
and
damaged
the
landscape
back
there
as
well.
L
L
Don't
know
so
and
then
the
last
thing
I
wrote
down
was
just
constantly
have
to
call
the
city
to
have
him
mow
the
area,
because
the
grass
gets
extremely
long
and
it's
hard
to
see-
and
you
know
going
into
that
like
that
from
the
driveway.
What
would
be
the
easement
I?
Guess
you
want
to
call
it,
and
you
know
probably
more
field-mice
than
there
needs
to
be
because
the
it
just
doesn't
get
mowed
often
enough.
So
it's
just
yeah
I,
don't
know
what
else
to
say.
B
Question
please!
Yes,
what
I'm
hearing
from
you
is
a
concern
about
the
surroundings
rather
than
the
actual
use
of
the
land
itself
as
row.
Houses
they're
that
correct
that
actually.
L
J
D
Unless
there
was
parking
areas
that
there
wouldn't
have
been
a
screen
between
residential
and
residential,
so
there's
definitely
landscaping
that
was
shown
on
the
ends
of
those
drives.
I
don't
have
a
copy
of
that.
I
should
have
included
a
copy
of
the
conceptual
plan
for
reference,
but
it's
not
in
the
file.
D
So
there
it's
based
on
what
the
PUD
is.
The
fencing
she's
probably
referring
to
is
what
we
require
in
the
grading
permit,
which
is
supposed
to
define
the
grading
limits
of
the
property
so
that
they
don't
grade
over
tree
roots
and
things
like
that.
I
don't
know
about
the
operational
aspect
of
them.
You
know
attaching
it
to
her
fencing
because
I,
don't
know
that's
kind
of
a
private
matter,
but
I'm
not
sure
that's.
A
good
practice
should
probably
be
set
up
to
stand
on
its
own
I.
E
D
So
there
is
some
opportunity,
I
guess,
for
the
developer,
to
work
with
the
property
owners
to
determine
exactly
where
some
of
that
is.
There
was
a
conceptual
plan
that
determined
conceptual
landscaping,
but
the
development
plan
will
define
where
they
actually
plant
and
they
will
have
to
show
a
schedule
of
plantings
that
would
make
sure
that
they
meet
the
mitigation
amounts
of
plantings
in.
D
I
A
M
Oh
good
Thank,
You
Lara,
okay
thanks,
my
name
is
didn't
Clark
property
at
14
was
sixty
second
place
directly
adjacent
to
this
property
on
the
east
side,
also
in
property
at
1407,
I've
lived
in
the
area
for
better
than
30
years,
I've
seen
they
what
they
did
to
that
hillside
as
far
as
tree
removal-
and
in
this
projected
it
was
a
big
mistake
to
do
that
at
the
beginning.
Now
has
there
been
any
rosin,
but
there's
been
new
flow
of
terrain.
M
What
was
going
one
direction
without
the
trees
has
caused
the
entire
hillside,
literally
to
gentl
its
way
down
with
those
without
those
trees
before
it
was
cut
in
and
out
the
trees
protected.
The
roots
kept
it
in
place,
they're
talking
about
putting
in
a
reserve
area
for
flooding
as
far
as
the
drainage
and
the
fooling
themselves,
a
thing
to
put
in
anything
bet,
bigger
or
anything
other
than
a
enormous
underground
tanks
to
hold
us,
because
we
get
excessive
amount
of
water
force,
gets
flooded
and
worse,
sit
down.
M
The
second
happening
like
a
river,
not
only
that,
but
it
works,
is
on
to
second
place
second
place.
What
would
be
orchard
down
between
second
place
and
second
have
enough-
has
been
washed
out
every
other
year
that
they've
tried
to
keep
something
there
and
the
only
reason
they
keep
anything
there
right
now
is
because
somebody's
wanted
it
there
and
some
days
is
no
longer
there
so
or
won't
be
I
worry
about
the
erosion
or
worry
about
the
density.
M
As
far
as
population
density,
apparently
I'm
Way
too
late
on
the
zoning
part
I
was
brought
up
to
speed
by
somebody
else
that
this
is
a
high
density.
It
is
for
our
neighborhood.
This
is
high
density.
When
you
have
row
houses
with
that
small
of
an
area
with
that
Park
for
the
entire
neighborhood.
This
is
identity.
I
know
it's
not
an
apartment
building,
but
it's
still
high
density.
It
shouldn't
have
been
that
much.
You
don't
have
too
much
concrete
there.
M
M
A
M
I
M
M
A
M
That
area
for
orchard
and
what
would
be
forest,
it
doesn't
show
an
outlet
on
the
forest.
So
you
talking
orchard
and
forth
so
you're
talking
more
density,
you're,
talking
more
cars,
parked
on
the
streets,
more
traffic
issues
and
where
were
there's
density,
there's
people
hiding
in
the
shadows.
Okay,.
B
M
M
Whatever
is
coming
off,
there
will
continue
down
that
grade
even
faster
and
will
washout
will
talk
down
there
on
down
to
the
street.
The
subsoil
in
this
area
is
potted
clay,
which
is
not
really
stable.
The
holds
water
expands
and
strength
that
plateau
up
there
literally
has
a
down
underground
spring
to
it
that
comes
off
of
everything
from
13th
Street
from
say,
University
to
working
down
into
that
gives
all
old
coal
mines
and
there's
a
natural
spring
on
to
the
properties,
habitat
properties.
What
would
be
the
west
side
can't
see
your
overhead
or
jariabek?
M
I
M
Here
this
is
the
property
of
the
lady
before
me
that
she
manages
I
said
and
the
roads
when
she
was
talking
abouts
right
here
that
has
gotten
worse.
I
know
that,
because
I'm
always
up
on
this
hillside
thought
about
buying
it
at
one
time
because
I
own
the
property
here,
but
it's
a
little
too
much.
Also
their
outcrop
of
this
is
side
by
side
with
that
lady's
property.
M
N
N
I
also
live
in
that
neighborhood
I've
lived
there
for
twenty
years
and
I
was
I,
was
very
excited
about
a
new
development
and
I'm
gonna
trust.
My
my
partner's
here
that
know
best
and
the
staff
to
mitigate
the
the
erosions
and
the
water,
and
things
like
that
and
I
understand
that
I
was
but
I
am
excited
to
see
that
development
and
but
I
know
we
have
to
yeah
pardon.
M
I'm
so
used
to
my
voice.
Caring
I
don't
need
microphone,
but
yes,
I'm
very
glad
that
I
heard
that
somebody
was
developing
it
because
the
famous
jump
point
the
previous
property
as
far
as
the
twelve
or
fourteen
years,
that
was
there.
That
was
it.
They
play
a
drug,
den
or
otherwise
I'm
glad
that
they
got
tore
down
and
somebody
took
interest
in
it.
It
was
definitely
a
nuisance
property
that
nobody
do.
You
know.
A
A
O
Sorry,
I'm
not
very
good
at
public
speaking,
my
name
is
Jana
Devore
I
live
at
the
property
of
14:27,
fourth
Street
and
I'm.
Sorry
Jana
Len
I
just
got
married,
so
we
live
at
the
property
right
here.
Been
there
17
years
again.
Also
I
appreciate
the
attempt
of
beautifying
the
neighborhood
and
making
it
better.
O
We
mainly
came
to
get
some
answers.
I
really
haven't
done
any
of
my
research,
so
I
apologize
for
that
I'm
kind
of
late
to
the
show
wanted
to
know
how
the
traffic
flow
will
go
again
kind
of
building
on
what
he
said.
Living
on
that
corner
there
there's
an
that
orchard
is
really
just
an
alley:
it's
not
a
street
and
with
all
the
traffic
in
the
neighborhood
because
of
the
you.
O
I
also
have
going
on
her
complaints
about
the
the
wildlife
and
trees
have
a
lot
of
the
last
five
to
ten
years
battling
poison,
ivy
and
weeds.
Coming
up
over
that
area,
just
non-stop
trying
to
battle
that
so
I'm
hoping
that
will
be
addressed
with
the
building
of
it
and
been
maintenance
of
that.
It's
a
big
issue
and
it's
also
been
connected
to
my
fence
coming
from
that
way,
with
no
access
to
getting
back
in
there.
If
you
know
my
dogs
get
go
chase,
animals
that
go
back
there.
I
O
C
Well,
my
name
is
Kim
Thomas
and
I
am
kind
of
surprised.
I
got
a
Oh.
This
is
the
packet
that
I
got
September
of
14th
of
2016
for
the
first
meeting
about
this.
This
property
in
this
thing
and
I
got
this
big
flat
sheet
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff
with
the
two
anyway
I
came
for
that
meeting
and
was
told
that
it
had
been
postponed
and
then
I
would
be
made
aware
of
a
new
time.
I
had
heard
nothing
about
this
until
just
the.
C
C
C
D
C
One
two
and
three
for
the
40
years:
I've
had
houses
because
parking
is
such
a
problem,
I've
designed
in
the
back
of
my
property's
parking
to
stall
parking
for
my
tenants
that
I've
had
and
it's
because
you
can't
park
in
place.
So
that's
my
big
opposition
for
having
this
at
all
this
Orchard
Avenue.
It's
like
they've,
just
stated
it's
just
a
one
lane.
Basically
straight
and
I,
don't
know
where
the
all
the
extra
you
know
high-density
is
exactly
what
I'm
afraid
of
with
having
that
and
I
am
not
prepared.
C
You
know
to
go
through
other
than
I
was
opposed.
I
stated
that
this
is
the
first
time
I've
heard
of
anything
I
saved.
All
this
I
mean
I.
Those
properties
are
something
that
I've
had
for
40
years.
You
guys
and
and
I'm
I'm,
very
surprised
that
I
don't
know
that
it
was
even
passed.
I
think
I've
talked
to
you
once
on
the
phone
I
gave
you
my
name
I
even
have
them
our
conversation
and
what
we
talked
about
is.
I
D
I
C
A
B
D
C
B
E
C
C
D
Yeah
print
is,
if
you
put
your
email
there,
I'll
email
us
yes,
so
this
this
was
approved
with
the
with
the
PUD
conceptual
plan.
So
each
of
these
would
have
a
double
garage
underneath
with
two
stories
above
the
there
would
be
a
through
private
drive
that
would
go
between
orchard
and
forest,
so
that
isn't
really
showing
up,
because
all
you're
seeing
here
is
the
lot
lines
and
so
you're.
Not
the
other
thing
is
that
there's
private
access
to
the
backs
of
these
units
with
center
courts,
so
the
movements
face
each
other
on
the
center
court.
H
Eric
just
to
confirm,
there's
a
two-car
garage
for
each
unit.
It
actually
has
a
parking
drive
out
in
front
of
the
unit
to
access
the
garage
and
then,
if
I
recall
this
beauty,
there
was
on
sir,
if
you
call
it
on
street
parking,
it's
the
private
drive
in
the
development
had
parking
lining
the
the
private
drive.
That
would
look
like
a
public
street.
It
would
have
landscaping
on
it
street
trees
and
it
has
a
sidewalk
that
runs
the
full
north-south
length
of
the
of
the
property.
D
Okay
and
and
just
for
the
commissioners
awareness
so
when
we
sent
out
notices
on
Platts
and
site
plans
that
instructs
individuals
with
questions
to
come
and
view
the
plan
or
ask
calls
call
in
and
we
can
send
it
to
them
by
email
so
because
it's
not
an
easy
thing
to
mail
in
in
the
notification.
So
we
didn't
get
any
enquiries
until
this
evening
on
that.
So
so.
D
I
N
N
D
K
Like
yeah,
like
I,
said
I
didn't
know,
there's
any
objections
to
this
I
know
we
had
way
back
when
we
had
a
neighborhood
meeting
who,
before
essentially
anything
was
done
and
I
thought
the
last
gentleman's
wife
was
at
it.
I'm,
not
sure,
but
I
remember
her
talking
about
some
houses
that
were
for
rent
on
the
4th
on
4th
Street
there,
but.
K
K
B
K
I'll
take
a
look
at
it
quite
quite
frankly,
I
think
between
your
property
and
my
property.
There's
a
3-foot
piece
of
property,
that's
owned
by
somebody.
I,
don't
know
who,
but
then
I
think
it
has
some
lady's
name
on
it.
But
if
you
don't
want
that
attached
to
your
fans,
I'll
make
sure
it
gets
detached
from
its
own
and
they
never
fix
your
gutter
either.
A
A
D
So
quickly,
since
the
last
time,
the
Commission
saw
this
and
continued
the
item.
It
was,
it
included
the
entire
block
area
of
the
of
the
site.
It
has
now
been
reduced
to
just
the
eastern
portion,
which
is
the
c3b
portion
and
they
are
treating
it
as
two
separate
site
plans.
Now
so,
what's
in
front
of
you
is
the
eastern
part
of
the
block,
which
includes
the
parking
that
you
see
here
in
the
patio
area.
D
D
However,
they
do
indicate
that
they
wanted
deferral
of
that
improvement
for
the
time
being,
they
didn't
give
a
definite
amount
of
time
for
that
deferral.
In
addition,
they
are
also
asking
that
they
not
be
required
to
underground
their
service
line
for
their
building
as
part
of
this
so
staff,
both
of
those
are
contrary
to
what
staff
is
recommending
in
the
staff
recommendation.
Other
than
that,
we
would
just
say
compliance
with
other
administrative
review,
I.
D
Q
The
ng
found
ku
Christensen
development,
215
East
third
suite
300
Des
Moines
I'm
here,
for
you
guys
so
just
a
little
bit
of
history
on
why
we
split
the
plats.
We
got
ourselves
into
a
really
big
detention
cost
when
we
tried
to
increase
the
parking
by
putting
the
two
Lots
together.
So
this
this
doing
it
this
way
allows
us
to
still
get
parking
for
our
tenant,
but
not
do
the
detention
until
we
actually
make
this
an
apartment
building,
which
is
probably
ten
years
down
the
road.
Q
So
what
we're
looking
at
our
main
concern
is
the
under
grounding
of
utilities.
You
guys
saw
me
like
a
month
ago
about
the
same
issue,
so
you
will
see
running
down
raccoon.
All
of
the
utility
poles
are
actually
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
street.
We
just
have
one
coming
into
our
truman's
space,
and
so
the
cost
underground
is
about
ten
to
twelve
thousand
dollars
depending,
and
it
only
remove
that
length
across
the
raccoon.
So
it
doesn't
do
much
for
sight
lines
or
views
or
anything
like
that.
Q
There
are
no
other
under
grounded
utilities
long
raccoon.
Our
other
concern
with
raccoon
is
depending
on
who
you
talk
to
in
the
city
and
what
plan
you
look
at
we're
still
unsure
if
raccoons
a
through
Street
at
the
end
of
the
day
or
if
it's
closed
so
I,
don't
want
to
put
in
class
a
sidewalks
for
something
that
isn't
going
to
be
a
street
which
that
I
believe
depends
on
aj
allen
and
what
plans
follow
what
plans
come
through
and
what
don't
so
I'm
not
opposed
to
doing
the
landscaping
along
and
along
South,
East.
Q
H
I'm,
a
dragon
I
did
decide
to
keep
raccoon
because
there's
gonna
be
storm.
Water
Oh
consult
is
running
down
that
Street
still
so
at
least
that's
my
understanding
of
the
drafted.
That
plan
has
not
been
the
final
draft
of
it
hasn't
been
prepared
and
it
still
needs
to
come
to
the
Planning
Commission
or
for
review,
but
my
understanding
is
at
least
that
raccoon
streets
going
to
remain
in
that
plan
as
a
public
public
right-of-way.
H
Q
So
we
were
looking
at
a
piece
on
southeast
v.
There
was
discussion
about
Raccoon
ending
at
southeast
v
and
not
continuing
through.
So
that's
some
of
our.
We
don't
want
to
put
in
utilities,
if
not
necessarily
just
utilities,
but
the
sidewalk
and
all
the
improvements,
if
number
one,
it's
gonna
be
ripped
out
to
fix
raccoon
or
number
two,
if
raccoons
going
away
so.
D
Q
J
I'd,
like
to
milk,
make
a
motion
we'll
just
seal
it.
Jones
I
move
staff
with
the
exception
that
the
overhead
line
not
be
buried
and
that
the
sidewalk
be
installed
within
one
year
of
the
final
market
plan.
Approval
mic,
I'm,
thinking
that
if
and
when
that
plan
is
approved,
we'll
know
and
then
give
them
a
year.
That
is
borrowing
whether
is
it
approved
in
the
winter
or
whatever,
to
install
the
sidewalk.
So.
H
A
K
I
P
A
Okay,
number
10
is
request
from
Drake
University
represented
by
Vanessa
macro
for
review
and
approval
the
site
plan.
The
Harkin
Institute
under
design
guidelines
in
NPC
districts
on
property,
located
at
2800
University
Avenue,
to
allow
development
of
a
two-story
16000
768
square-foot
building
for
the
Harkin
Institute.
D
So
this
were
excited
about
this
project,
so
another
concerns
raised
in
the
staff
report,
but
we're
definitely
excited
about
what
Drake's
doing
here,
the
housing,
the
Harkin
Institute
on
their
campus
and
this
entire
block
essentially
was
part
of
the
Southside,
a
university
that
got
rezone
to
NPC.
So
the
fact
back
when
that
occurred,
the
Drake
neighborhood,
along
with
Drake
University,
wanted
to
see
walkable
development
occurring
around
the
campus.
So
NPC
was
the
zoning
of
choice
at
that
time.
That's
the
zoning
in
our
ordinance
that
currently
does
encourage
that
it
brings
the
buildings
to
the
street.
D
So
if
you
look
at
the
design
guidelines,
I
think
at
this
point
right
now
the
main
I'm
gonna
show
you
their
plan.
First
I
guess
before
we
get
into
that
and
I'll,
let
them
elaborate,
maybe
even
more
on
it
is
here:
son
wanna
take
away
from
them
describing
their
plan,
but
so
they
do
have
the
building
fronted
to
University,
which
is
appropriate
under
NPC.
They
have
a
plaza
area
to
the
east
of
it
towards
28th
Street,
and
then
they
have
a
parking
area
that
goes
along
with
this.
That's
also
west
of
st.
D
When
you
look
at
the
MPC
design
guidelines,
staffs
biggest
concern
I
think
is
generally
we
want
front
entrances
to
be
on
the
prominent
Street
and
emptying
out
and
that
frontage,
that
is
the
transit
corridor.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
transit
patrons
are
able
to
get
to
the
entrance
of
this
building
within
a
reasonable
amount
of
distance,
and
so
that
was
our
concern.
D
So
we're
wrecked
we
were
recommending
to
have
a
primary
entrance
onto
University
or
demonstrate
that
they're
able
to
meet
that
guideline
of
having
good
access
to
the
street
from
the
from
the
entrance
of
the
building.
So
that
will
be
their
task
tonight
in
front
of
the
Commission
right
now.
The
transit
stop
is
here
at
this
corner:
they've,
actually
gotten
a
modification
that
will
traffic
is
wanting
this
bump
out
here
to
slide
to
the
corner
to
shape
this.
D
This
would
no
longer
be
a
right
turn
lane
which
it
is
now
so
right
now,
there's
a
right
turn
that
goes
south
on
the
28th
Street.
They
want
to
shade
that
with
a
bump
out,
so
that
for
a
safer
movement
of
traffic
on
University
and
better
movement
of
traffic,
which
I
don't
think
anybody
is
arguing
at
this
point
so
they're
proposing
to
meet
that
requirement.
D
But
the
bus,
the
spacing
of
the
dart
stops,
would
push
the
transit
stop
to
mid
block
which
actually
takes
it
away
from
that
southeast
corner.
So
that's
staffs
primary
concern
at
this
point,
and
so
when
you
look
at
the
staff
recommendation,
we
are
recommending
that
they
provide
an
entrance
onto
University,
which
I
know
there's
some
challenges
with
the
way
they've
designed
their
building
internally.
So
they'll
probably
present
it
Eric.
H
D
D
We've
recommended
that
that
be
connected
to
University
as
well.
I,
don't
think
they're
arguing
against
that
at
this
point,
I,
don't
think
that's
going
to
be
a
deal-breaker
for
them,
but
I'll.
Let
them
speak
to
that,
but
they
don't
because
of
security,
means
there
and
indicating
that
the
main
public
entrance
will
be
in
this
plaza,
so
I'll,
let
them
present
their
design.
I
have
the
elevations
and
everything
if
you
have
questions
but
I
I'm
hoping
for
them
to
give
you
a
better
picture
of
their
designs.
Okay,
thank.
G
B
D
I
N
D
That,
because
of
the
way
that
Nelson
Hotel
project
went
the
that
actually
shifted
where
the
dart
stops,
we're
gonna
they're,
trying
to
reduce
the
number
of
darts,
tops
to
keep
the
buses
moving
quicker.
So
darts
looked
at
this
and
determined
kind
of
at
this
point.
Given
the
project,
that's
also
part
of
the
city's
upgrade
to
university
with
sewers
and
so
forth.
The
stops
are
getting
redistributed
along
there
and
that's
already
somewhat
predetermined
now,
based
on
that
project.
So
thank
you.
Okay,.
R
That
was
established
at
Drake
in
2013,
with
a
mission
to
inform
citizens,
inspire
creative
cooperation
and
catalyze
change
on
issues
of
social
justice,
fairness
and
opportunity
and,
as
our
name
suggests,
we
have
two
primary
goals.
The
first
is
to
produce
high
quality,
nonpartisan
Public
Policy
Research,
to
help
policymakers
make
educated
decisions.
The
second
is
to
engage
the
public
in
conversations
that
foster
active
and
informed
civic
participation.
So
it's
worth
noting
that
we
have
several
programs
specifically
for
Drake
and
Drake
University
students.
R
A
large
number
of
those
participating
in
our
public
programming
are
members
of
the
Des
Moines
community
at
large.
In
fact,
we
brought
nearly
11,000
people
to
campus
since
we
came
to
drink
and
although
we
work
around
the
globe,
we're
proud
to
be
located
in
Des
Moines
and
we're
proud
of
the
money
programming
we're
able
to
provide
to
our
neighbors
and
our
community
members.
R
Much
of
our
research
and
program
is
concentrated
in
for
public
policy
areas
to
which
Senator
Harkin
dedicated
his
career,
wellness
and
nutrition,
labor
and
employment,
retirement
security
and,
of
course,
people
with
disabilities
and,
as
you
all
know,
fighting
for
the
rights
of
individuals
with
disabilities
was
a
hallmark
of
Senator
Harkins
career
and
it's
an
area
we're
proud
to
continue
to
work
on.
At
the
Institute
in
particular,
the
Institute
has
been
focused
on
how
we
can
help
promote
competitive,
integrated
employment
for
people
with
disabilities
around
the
world.
R
R
Lastly,
I
want
to
highlight
briefly
one
of
the
deliberate
processes
we
undertook
while
designing
this
space.
There's
a
phrase
in
the
disability
community.
That's
regularly
heard.
That
is
nothing
about
us
without
us,
and
I
cannot
presume
to
know
the
most
important
factors
of
an
accessible
space
for
someone
who
is
deaf
or
someone
who
is
blind
or
someone
who
is
user
of
a
wheelchair,
but
at
the
Institute
we
have
a
disability
policy
committee
made
up
of
15
experts
in
different
areas
of
disability
and
most
of
whom
have
disabilities
themselves.
Now.
R
Ordinarily,
this
groups
responsibility
is
to
help
us
with
our
policy
research
help
us
set
our
agenda,
but
we
knew
how
important
to
get
this
building
right.
So
we,
along
with
Kevin
our
architect,
met
with
this
group
on
multiple
occasions
to
discuss
with
them
directly
what
was
most
important
to
them
when
it
comes
to
the
making
the
built
environment
not
only
accessible
but
truly
inclusive,
so
you'll
see
their
feedback
reflected
in
the
building
proposal.
You
have
before
you
in
all
sorts
of
ways,
so
at
the
harken
Institute
we
have
a
tremendous
legacy
to
live
up
to.
R
Equitable
access
is
immensely
important
to
us.
It's
not
enough
for
us
to
meet
the
minimum
standards
of
accessibility,
access
and
Universal
Design
are
at
the
heart
of
this
building,
as
well
as
the
Institute's
mission
and
identity.
A
place
known
for
its
work
on
behalf
of
persons
with
disabilities
can
do
no
less.
We
need
to
create
a
space
that
is
truly
inclusive
for
all
individuals.
R
A
building
that
were
drawn
national
attention
as
an
iconic
example
of
universal
design
can
serve
as
a
model
for
other
organizations
of
how
to
create
a
work
space
and
a
space
for
public
gatherings.
That's
welcoming
for
everyone,
I'm
gonna!
Let
Kevin
tell
you
about
the
design
elements
and
then
we'll
both
take
your
questions.
F
F
If,
if
zero
is
the
elevation
here,
this
parking
is
about
five
feet
higher
and
grade
than
the
street.
At
this
point,
this
driveway
ascends
up
five
feet.
There's
parking
in
this
zone
right
now
that
provides
some
handicap
parking
for
the
church
currently
technically
doesn't
comply
with
the
side
slopes
because
it
was
sort
of
retrofitted
to
make
that
work
at
the
time,
but
all
of
this
area
is
sort
of
a
plateau
about
five
five
to
six
feet
higher
than
University
and
28th
Street.
Something
just
note:
I
should
mention
too,
that
I
do
agree.
F
Drake
does
agree
with
Eric
and
that
the
only
issue
we
have
with
the
staff
recommendations
is
this
notion
of
a
an
entrance
on
University.
We
we
cannot
accommodate
that
and-
and
you
know,
I'll
demonstrate
why
here
in
a
second,
we
do
also
meet
four
of
the
five
criteria.
For
you,
folks
to
grant
exceptions
to
the
design
guidelines,
we
have
at
a
regular
shaped
site.
It's
one
point:
eight,
eight
acres:
we
have
topography
challenges
and
existing
buildings
that
we're
all
trying
to
maintain.
F
So,
within
the
within
the
ordinance,
we
meet
four
or
five
of
the
of
the
things
that
require,
or
that
allow
you
to
grant
exceptions.
So
again,
here
is
the
corner
at
28th
and
university.
Looking
Southwest.
This
is
the
church,
we're
placing
the
building
in
this
zone
right
here
and
so
you'll
see
here
when
we
drive
in
we're
ascending
grade.
F
So
one
of
the
issues
with
the
ordinance
as
it
stands
right
now
is
that
by
requiring
and
for
good
reason,
by
requiring
an
entrance
on
on
the
north
side
at
University,
the
ordinance
actually
suggests
parking
on
the
rear
side.
The
issue
with
everything
that
Joseph
just
said
with
accessibility
is
that
your
parking
on
the
back
side
of
the
building,
with
an
entrance
on
the
north
side
of
the
building
and
so
for
this
particular
building.
F
Not
only
is
there
a
distance
issue
just
for
any
site
related
to
that
there's
an
issue
with
this
particular
site,
because
there's
a
for
changing
grade
so
you'll
see
in
our
design
solution
how
we
tried
to
manage
that
which
requires
us
to
move
the
entrance
off
of
University
is
the
main
thing
so
for
me,
I
have
multiple
sclerosis
and,
for
me,
I
have
to
scope
out
ahead
of
time.
If
I'm
gonna
beat
somebody
I
have
to
scope
out.
You
know
a
couple
of
days
in
advance.
F
F
There's
not
a
really
good
way
for
a
person
like
me
that
can
still
walk,
thankfully,
to
get
to
the
front
door,
even
though
the
front
door
is
accessible
to
University
in
for
transit.
Folks,
you
know
walking
on
the
sidewalk.
Those
of
us.
Those
of
us
with
disabilities
will
have
a
challenge
getting
to
that
front
door.
So
what
we
did
is
the
first
thing
we
did
is
we
slid
the
building
west
by
sliding
the
building
west.
We've
created
this.
F
This
public
plaza
space
that
absolutely
has
a
wonderful
presence
and
you'll
see
here
in
a
second
to
university
and
it's
creating
that
front
door.
Experience
for
us
off
of
the
University
Avenue
in
key
thing
here,
though,
is
that
this
was
initial
concepts
we
had
from
the
beginning.
The
parking
here
is
handicap
parking
right
by
the
front
door,
rather.
F
Anywhere
in
this
zone
having
to
walk
around
the
building
to
a
front
door
over
here,
distance
distance
does
matter,
and
so
that's
one
thing:
ordinances
and
city
plants
don't
account
for
appropriately
as
the
distance,
someone
has
to
walk
from
a
parking
stall,
the
front
door.
So
we
are
trying
to
manage
that
very
well
right
here.
All
of
the
visitors
for
this
building
will
park
back
here.
Staff
will
park
back
here
and
over
in
this
parking
over
here.
F
The
other
thing
to
note
here
is
there's
a
visual
access
from
Drake
University
there's
also
visual
access
from
the
building
from
University
Avenue,
and
by
creating
this
public
plaza
here.
It
absolutely
accentuates
and
connects
the
front
door
to
university
without
having
a
door
literally
on
the
front
facade
of
the
building
two
universities,
the
floor
plan
is,
it
relates.
F
When
you
enter
the
building
here
through
sliding
doors,
there's
a
ramp,
there's
one
stair
and
then
there's
this
ramp.
That
can
take
you
up
on
this
journey
to
the
upper
floor
and
so
the
reason
I'm
showing
you
that
is
that
this
will
probably
be
one
of
the
only
buildings
in
the
country
that
has
this
feature
and
it
presents
itself
again
on
the
north
side
of
the
building
here,
and
this
is
a
gallery
space
celebrating
the
Institute,
tommmartens
legacy
and
so
forth
in
that
zone.
All
of
this
is
glass
presenting
itself
to
university.
F
On
university,
looking
back
at
the
building
and
staff
didn't
really
have
this
picture
when
they
made
some
of
their
comments.
They
might
have
made
different
comments.
They
wouldn't
have
seen
this,
but
what
we're
doing
is
celebrating
that
ramp
on
the
exterior
as
well.
So
you
can
see
that
ramp
inside
here
and
presenting
itself
on
the
outside
at
the
top,
so
this
ramp
as
it
extends
around,
extends
back.
It
becomes
a
canopy
to
the
main
front
door
back
here.
F
This
is
a
rendition
of
you
know
some
trees,
maybe
a
sculpture
and
some
other
things
out
front
in
this
Plaza
space,
so
the
door
itself,
even
though
it
is
on
the
back
corner,
it
clearly
has
a
presence
to
do
University
Avenue.
All
of
this
is
glass
that
the
staff
report
mentioned.
The
glass
is
predominantly
at
the
first
floor.
That's
not
true!
You
can
see
here
the
glass
most
of
this
building
is
glass
and
transparent.
You
can
see
in
and
engage
in,
dynamic
building
to
university.
This
is
looking
from
campus
to
the
building.
F
So
again
here
you
can
see
the
ramp.
You
know
in
the
building
and
extending
through
so
there's
some
dynamic
engagement
between
the
building
and
the
the
street
on
campus,
and
then
this
is
a
view
from
those
handicap
parking
stalls
to
this
front
door
and
how
the
front
door,
through
this
sidewalk
of
Plaza,
connects
back
to
university
over
here
just
lastly,
some
pictures
of
the
interior.
This
is
when
you
walk
in
the
front
door
and
you
can
start
to
see
the
ramp
as
it
extends
around
the
boardroom.
F
It
starts
to
come
up
along
University
Avenue
here,
standing
at
the
top
of
the
landing
above
the
main
entrance,
looking
back
toward
Olmsted
and
the
main
campus
there
and
then
another
view.
Looking
back
toward
the
library,
Kohl's
library,
cold
means
sits
back
here
and
so
there's
a
real
dynamic
engagement
between
the
building
and
the
street
without
having
a
door
literally
on
the
front
elevation
on
the
sidewalk
and
with
that
will
entertain
any
questions.
F
F
The
building
setback
hold
the
building
setback,
we're
at
the
the
right
away
line
I
believe
are
very
close
to
the
right
away
line
at
the
sidewalk.
This
is
the
front
of
the
building
the
other
issue.
The
other
issue,
too,
is
is
that
we're
trying
to
create
a
safer,
more
gracious
and
welcoming
environment
for
those
with
disabilities
and
by
providing
as
much
handicapped
parking
as
we
can
on
the
south
side.
It's
a
safer
environment.
F
F
We
have
a
ramp
at
the
stair
and
then
the
elevator
is
a
two
sided
elevator
handicapped
or
a
hospital
sized
elevator.
So
it's
got
a
door
in
each
end.
With
the
strategy
there
is
given
by
our
accessibility
committee.
Is
that
two
people
could
we,
along
with
their
wheelchairs,
go
up
stairs
and
wheel
off
without
having
to
turn
around
and
manage
themselves?
And
thank.
G
Hey,
what
I
was
thinking
of
thinking
about,
and
so
this
might
be
more
of
a
dialogue
than
a
question.
I
don't
know
yet,
but
you
know
the
intent
I
think
with
putting
doors
on
facades
on
streets
is
to
create
activity.
You
know
to
try
and
not
have
blank
lifeless
sort
of
elevations,
and
we
all
understand
that.
G
So
this
is
a
super
helpful
image.
I
appreciate
the
image.
What
I
was
thinking
about?
What
I
saw
this
it
wasn't
long
ago
that
I
was
in
New
York
and
went
up
the
Guggenheim
for
the
first
time,
I'd
never
been
there
before
and
seen
all
the
pictures
read
the
books,
but
you
know
when
he
actually
experienced
the
ramp,
it's
very
powerful,
and
so,
when
I
saw
this
and
you
put
it
up,
I
just
kept
thinking
wow.
G
What
a
celebration
kind
of
you
know
if
the
ramp
was
almost
hoping,
you
didn't
have
an
elevator,
so
then
everybody
had
to
use
the
ramp
and
but
so
I
guess.
My
point
in
this
is
I
appreciate
a
couple
things
you've
done
here.
It
absolutely
is
full
life
and
I
know
you
well
enough
to
know
that
you
know
this
class
will
be
very
transparent.
H
I
have
one
question
on
the
drawing
it
looks
like
the
you
said
there
currently
there's
a
grade
change,
but
on
the
elevations
you
were
showing
it
looked
like
pretty
much.
The
whole
building
is
kind
of
flattening
the
site
between
the
grade
and
and
back.
What
is
the
great
difference
at
the
west
end
of
the
building
from
the
sidewalk
to
the
entrance
on
the
west
side
of
your
building.
H
So
from
University
sidewalk
we're
talking
about
a
future
bus,
stop
being
midpoint
of
29th
and
28th
somewhere
in
there.
Is
there
not
the
ability
to
make
a
sidewalk
connection
from
university
to
that
sidewalk
on
the
west
side
of
your
building
and
allow
access
into
that
building?
Because
not
every
person
will
drive
to
the
site?
There
could
be
a
mobility
challenged
visitor
a
patron
who
rides
the
bus?
So
could
they
not
have
access
to
the
west
side
of
the
building
too?
To
get
in
I
saw
your
floorplan.
F
Me
describe
that
so
from
here
to
here,
rises,
5
feet,
and
it
still
does
because
these
grades,
don't
change
so
we're
rising
up.
What
we're
doing
here
is
you're
right,
we're
carving
this
down.
So
this
is
sloping
down
sort
of
in
this
direction.
We're
doing
all
of
our
storm.
Water
management
is
sustainably
done
with
green
infrastructure
practices,
so
all
of
the
stormwater
from
the
roof
and
from
the
parking
is
all
being
managed
in
some
tidal
swells
around
the
site.
This
is
one
actually
here
to
this.
Sidewalk,
then,
is
not
a
ramp.
F
This
again
so
that
sidewalk
slopes
at
less
than
one
in
20,
so
it's
not
even
a
ramp
to
get
down
to
that
door.
So
they
answer
your
question.
Yes,
someone
might--
get
off
a
bus
here,
that's
in
a
wheelchair,
for
example,
we
don't
necessarily
want
them
to
come
into
this
door,
this
door
currently
the
way
we're
planning
it
with
Drake
University.
Is
that
that's
a
keycard
access
for
staff?
F
That's
why
we
weren't
bothering
to
put
a
sidewalk
to
university,
because
you
know
staff
and
visitors,
your
parking
back
here,
phenomenally
there's
actually
a
handicapped
staff
person
in
a
wheelchair
as
part
of
their
staff
that
probably
can
park
here
and
come
down
here
and
enter
that
point,
but
if
they're
already
traveling
a
distance
anyway
getting
off
a
bus
here,
we
still
want
to
come
over
here,
predominantly
for
the
reason
of
access
and
control.
They
don't
have
a
huge
staff,
and
so
there's
a
visitor
or
a
guest
volunteer
at
the
front
door
to
greet
that
person.
H
Our
suggestion
was
more
online
of
I'd
be
willing
to
not
have
a
door
directly
on
University.
This
would
be
a
fairly
minor
revision,
possibly
a
call
button
for
someone
that
goes
to
that
door
for
someone
to
come
in
and
let
them
into
that
door
on
a
shorter
path
from
a
bus
stop
than
taking
them
the
entire
length
of
the
building
and
then
into
the
farthest
farthest
point
on
the
building
from.
F
The
bus
stop
there's
this,
isn't
the
only
bus,
stop,
there's
also
a
bus
stop
plant
here
and
I'll
stop
playing
here.
So
there's
people
coming
from
all
directions,
not
just
one
right
so
folks
that
are
coming
into
these
bus
stops.
You
know
are
coming
to
this
door.
So
to
answer
your
question,
one
one,
building
and
I
believe
it's
also
Drake's.
F
It's
the
the
legal
clinic
I've
gone
to
meetings
there
before
upstairs
in
the
boardroom,
the
library
that
has
what
exactly
what
you're
talking
about
and
the
issue
with
that
for
a
guy
like
me,
that
is
disabled
I
can
park
in
the
handicapped
spot
by
the
back
door.
The
back
door
has
a
call
button
like
that,
but
the
person
it's
it's
just
it's
not
convenient.
It's
a
secondhand
door
treats
me
differently
than
other
people.
F
F
H
Don't
take
my
comment
says
wanting
to
treat
someone's
right
differently.
I
have
a
father,
who's,
who's,
disabled
and
and
distance
is
a
huge
issue.
So
my
question
was
just:
is
there
the
ability
to
accommodate
within
your
existing
design,
for
someone
who
would
ride
a
bus
to
this
facility?
Someone
that
gets
off
the
next
stop
could
still
use
that
door
on
the
south
side.
H
J
F
J
You
and
swore
they
can
come
here
and
down.
Secondly,
how
white
is
the
sidewalk
and
then
boy
we're
getting
into
details,
but
I'm
just
curious,
because
you
are
going
to
have
I
think
a
lot
of
people
going
from
University
and
walking
or
their
steps
that
come
up
and
head
toward
the
main
door
from
university
as
one
walks
to
the
south.
F
F
B
A
comment
Thomas.
It
was
interesting
when
Greg
was
talking
about
the
Guggenheim
I,
think
everybody
thought
that
you
know
and
in
mind.
But
you
know
that's
a
post-world
War
two
building
and
here
in
Des
Moines
in
the
1920s
there
was
the
same
concept
that
I
think
it
was
Proudfoot
and
Byrd
when
they
designed
Smouse.
F
G
F
This
is
the
streetscape
plan
that
Drake
has
been
working
on.
Thank
you
for
the
area,
so
here
it
is
Harkin.
Here's
the
bus
stop
here.
Those
bus
stops,
for
example,
here's
the
hotel
that
Mike
Nelson
is
doing
which
we've
been
working
on
that
as
well,
and
so
this
shows
that
the
plan
for
that
whole
area,
so
there's
streetscaping,
going
on
there's
medians
that
are
going
to
be
added
for
slow
down
traffic
and
so
for
its
own
genus.
F
A
A
Okay,
anyone
here
to
speak
in
opposition
of
the
applicant,
ok,
I'll,
close
the
public
hearing
discussion.
O
D
N
D
This
was
initiated
through
inquiry
by
one
of
our
City
Council
people
to
our
street,
addressing
committee
to
consider
a
honorary
street
name
for
John
Byers
Street
on
a
segment
of
Rollins
Street
north
of
the
plate
house,
building
and
south
of
the
Roosevelt
Shops
at
Roosevelt
development.
So
segment,
we're
talking
about
is
right
here.
One
block
stretch
between
41st
and
42nd
Street
and
the
recommendation
of
that
committee
was
not
to
name
it
because
the
policy
set
for
street
naming
by
the
City
Council
and
included
that
Street
shouldn't
be
named
after
people
unless
it's
put
posthumously.
So.
D
What's
in
front
of
you
right
now
is
the
consideration
of
an
honorary
name
it
doesn't
affect
addressing
it
doesn't
affect.
You
know
what
goes
on
Google
Earth,
but
it
would
include
signage
in
addition
to
the
street
signage
for
Rollins
Street,
if
it's
granted,
so
that
would
be
the
main
difference.
I,
don't
think
anybody
on
staff
is
challenging
the
worthiness
of
the
honorary
name
or
anything
like
that.
So
it's
simply
down
to
what
the
addressing
committee
did
in
applying
the
policy
of
the
council.
D
D
D
A
P
P
A
Okay,
thanks!
Thank
you.
Mister.
Anyone
else
want
a
speech
about
this.
Okay,
I'll
close
the
public
hearing,
I.
J
N
H
Have
not
we
just
we
discussed
it
at
the
last
meeting
right
availability,
the
next
two
meetings
we
agreed
to
meet
4
to
6
p.m.
to
discuss
the
draft
zoning
code
that
public
hearing
draft
will
be
released
tomorrow
at
noon
on
the
city's
website.
That
plan
dsm
work
so
on
the
website
will
be
the
the
ordinance
itself.
The
and
site
planning
and
design
ordinances,
which
are
chapters
134
and
135.
H
H
N
H
Yeah,
absolutely
this
is
not
not
the.
Finally,
we
have
six
months
of
public
hearings,
okay
ahead
of
us
on
this
code,
so
there
are
at
least
ten
public
meetings
between
public
unit
and
the
workshop.
They
contend.
Steering
committee
meeting
states
come
to
the
Planning
Commission
hearings,
where
you
actually
take
public
comment.
We
have
two
of
those
and
then
there's
three
council
for
council
meetings.
So.
N
H
Have
is
we
gave
some
talking
points,
we
had
a
meeting
with
Des
Moines
business
record
and
the
Des
Moines
Register,
and
we
gave
them
just
some
talking
points
on
it.
I
can
forward
that
out
to
you
tomorrow
as
well
and
really
the
reality
has
direct
people
to
the
plan
DSM
org
website,
because
that
is
where
all.