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Des Moines City Council meeting on Monday, January 13, 2020 in Des Moines, Iowa.
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A
There
did
all
right
well
welcome.
Everybody.
We've
got
a
couple
little
things
to
do
before
we
start
the
official
meeting.
We've
got
some
newly
elected
people
that
get
sworn
in,
and
so
I
want
to.
Thank
you
all
for
being
here
for
this
great
event
and
we're
going
to
start
with
the
mayor.
So
I
would
like
to
have
my
representatives
of
my
family
come
up
here,
Tina
Katie
Susie,
we
could
all
gather
around,
and
my
my
daughter,
miss
Suzanne
is
here
all
the
way
from
Bend
Oregon
for
this
event,
and
so
we're
going
to
have
her.
B
B
B
B
D
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F
F
C
G
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G
G
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I
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A
We
just
had
sort
of
a
pre
opportunity
yeah.
Our
council
meeting
is
scheduled
to
start
in
about
10
minutes.
So
if
anybody
would
like
to
grab
a
cookie
I
think
there's
a
couple
left,
but
in
the
mean
time,
we'll
start
right
at
4:30.
I,
don't
think
we
can
do
anything
before
that.
That's
sort
of
a
we
have
an
official
announcement
in
time
when
we
have
to
start
so.
A
You
item
I
is
a
reappointment
of
the
following:
a
is
the
city
manager.
B
is
the
city
attorney.
C
is
the
city
clerk
D
is
the
deputy
chief
deputy
city
clerk
and
the
deputy
city
clerk
and
E
is
the
chief
deputy
city
attorney
the
deputy
city
attorneys
and
the
assistant
attorneys
mr.
attorney,
if
it's
okay,
I'd
like
to
do
those
is
one
vote
unless
somebody,
okay,
so.
A
M
A
A
A
M
M
Our
guy
thank
you
for
looking
down
upon
us
as
we
attend
our
first
meeting
of
the
year,
our
first
meeting
of
the
decade,
and
hopefully
many
more
to
come,
where
you
can
bless
us
with
decisions
that
are
going
to
benefit
the
entire
citizenry
of
the
City
of
Des
Moines
I
also
want
to
thank
you
for
having
such
a
great
workforce.
We
have
here
at
the
City
of
Des
Moines.
M
We
just
came
off
a
holiday
season
and
we
had
first
responders
that
were
giving
up
their
time
and
talents
with
their
families,
Public
Works
employees,
all
of
the
intricate
people
that
make
this
city
run.
You
gave
them
their
time
and
talents
to
work
with
the
city
so
that
we
can
continue
to
be
the
great
city
that
we
always
are.
We
appreciate
all
of
that
in
in
your
name,
Amen.
M
My
second
part
is
a
little
quick
here,
drop
that
off
swear.
We
suffered
a
couple
losses
here
last
year
at
the
University
of
Iowa
Chalmers
bump
Elliott
passed
away
and
our
beloved
coach,
Hayden
Fry,
passed
away
both
were
at
age,
90
and
I.
Think
and
look
at
the
age
group
out
here.
I,
don't
know
how
many
you
guys
remember:
Hayden,
Fry,
raise
your
hand
if
you
do
that's
a
good
amount.
Hayden
was
a
master
psychologist.
M
Hayden,
he
you
know,
did
the
pink
locker
rooms
and
everything
it's
the
best
thing
he
ever
did,
though,
was
we
were
supposed
to
be
playing
Minnesota
mice
and
the
coach
at
the
time
was
Joe
Salem
and
he
had
a
real
contempt
for
the
University
of
Iowa,
because
when
Hayden
came,
all
of
a
sudden,
Minnesota
wasn't
beating
Iowa
anymore
and
it's
kind
of
getting
underneath
his
skin.
So
he
gave
a
press,
copper
and
said
you
know.
M
I
see
this
weekend,
we
got
to
go
down
and
play
a
bunch
of
farmers
in
Iowa,
so
Hayden
had
the
next
press
conference,
and
this
is
how
he
came
out
dressed
cowboy
hat,
flannel
shirt,
bib
overalls
and
cowboy
boots.
I
have
never
seen
anybody
that
could
take
something
to
such
a
levels
he
did,
but
when
I
saw
that
picture
back,
I
think
was
83
or
84
I
just
broke
up
laughing.
A
The
consent
items
3
through
55
item
37
is
correct.
Its
roll
call
item
43
I
is
added.
It's
a
map
item
26
I
added,
a
recommendation
from
mayor
county
to
appoint
the
primary
and
alternative
representatives
to
the
wastewater
reclamation,
reclamation,
Authority
Management
Agency
for
January
1,
2,
20,
22,
December,
31
of
2020
and
then
approving
the
appointments
as
follows.
A
Appointing
mayor
County
as
the
Greater
Des
Moines
convention,
Visitors,
Bureau
board
of
directors
replacing
Chris
Coleman
B
is
appointing
Carl
Voss
to
the
blank
Park
Zoo
Foundation
Board
of
Directors
replacing
Chris
Coleman
reappointing
Connie
Bo's
into
the
Bravo
Greater
Des
Moines
Board
of
Directors.
Appointing
Josh
mantel
bomb
is
the
primary
member
to
the
NFC
board
of
directors.
A
He
is
appointing
Joe
Gatto
and
bill
gray
as
the
primary
and
alternate
members
Metro
Waste,
Authority
and
F
as
appointing
Carl
boss
to
the
invest
dsm,
Board
replacing
Chris
Coleman
G
is
appointing
Connie
Bosen
to
the
Metro
Advisory
Council
mack,
replacing
Chris,
Coleman
and
H
is
appointing
Josh
mantel
bomb
to
the
Greater
Des
Moines
partnership,
Board
of
Directors
56i,
was
added
from
councilmember
Gatto
and
bozon
to
speak.
Regarding
run-off
elections,
fifty-six
was
withdrawn,
council
member
gray
requested
the
item
be
withdrawn
and
55
is
corrected.
A
A
Item
3
is
approving
the
consent
agenda.
These
are
items
that
generally
are
taken
is
one
vote
unless
either
a
council
member
member
of
the
audience,
including
Hayden
Fry
over
here,
ask
to
have
one
pulled
for
further
clarification
or
discussion
quickly.
Item
five
I
vote.
No
item.
7C
Carl
boss,
wishes
to
speak
item.
Eight
customer
great
wishes
to
speak
item.
11
customer
Mandelbaum
wishes
to
speak
for
Z
councilmember
gotto
registers,
a
conflict
item
44
a.
K
A
A
Takes
this
to
item
7c
item
7c:
these
are
public
improvements
ordering
the
construction.
The
following
see
is
16th
Street,
brick
repair
from
de
street
to
Ascension
Street
receiving
a
bids
128
of
20
setting
the
date
of
hearing
of
224
of
20
in
the
engineer's
estimate
is
$400,000
council
communication
number
20,
zero.
One
nine
counts
member
boss.
C
C
C
So
I
would
like
the
city,
and
perhaps
the
city
manager,
to
consider
putting
together
a
brick
street
Council
a
roundtable
to
talk
about
how
brick
streets
are
repaired
and
maintained,
and
it
takes
special
snow
removal
equipment
on
several
streets
that
are
domed
and
I
think
they
use
brushes
on
those
to
remove
snow.
So
just
get
people
to
talk
about
their
bricks,
streets
and
gather
up
more
information.
So
we
can
adequately
prepare
our
brick
streets.
C
A
M
You
miss
parent.
This
is
a
authorizing
Phase.
Two
of
probably
one
of
the
best
street
skates
we've
been
able
to
come
up
with
on
the
west
side.
This
is
one
of
our
major
corridors
coming
into
downtown
Des
Moines
and
we've
got
phase
one
almost
to
a
point
where
we
can
finish
it
this
spring.
This
is
another
just
under
four
million
dollars,
taking
it
from
college
up
to
university.
M
Once
we
get
to
university
phase,
three
is
going
to
take
it
right
to
the
university
to
the
freeway,
so
we
still
got
some
work
ahead
of
us,
but
I've
got
to
tell
you.
It
is
going
to
read
juvenile
that
whole
area.
It's
getting.
You
can
see
some
the
greening
of
sixth
Avenue,
we're
doing
a
lot
of
water
retention
and
a
lot
of
new
concepts,
and
we
hope
to
have
a
great
neighborhood
following
a
great
commercial
following
on
this.
M
A
Takes
us
to
item
11,
it's
proving
from
professional
service
agreement
with
OPN
architects,
Inc
for
the
design
and
construction
services
for
municipal
service
center
phase
2,
not
to
exceed
1
million
three
hundred
and
eighty
one
thousand
dollars.
Council
communication
number
twenty
0,
1,
4,
councilmember,
mandelbaum,
yeah,.
F
There
were
just
a
few
items:
I
think
staff
is
considering
already,
but
I
wanted
to
make
sure
when
we're
in
the
design
phase.
The
planning
piece
is
particularly
important
and
I
want
us
to
be
thinking
about
the
vehicle
fleet
of
the
future.
With
with
this
building,
you
know
this
is
going
to
house
vehicles
and
we've
had
some
conversations
about
long-term,
being
able
to
transition
to
electric
vehicles
where
that's
gonna,
going
to
be
able
to
save
us
money
and
reduce
our
emissions.
F
Footprint
want
to
be
thinking
about
the
energy
efficiency
of
the
building
and
any
opportunities
for
solar.
All
of
those
things
need
to
be
thought
about
during
the
the
design
part
of
this
process,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
place
a
little
extra
emphasis
on
that
to
make
sure
that
those
items
were
not
lost
and
with
that
I'll
move,
move
item,
11.
A
A
mr.
manager
I
would
like
to
add
to
that
is
we
did
with
the
municipal
service
center
phase.
1
I
am
somewhat
concerned
that
this
is
above
the
floodplain
and
were
we
to
have
a
topping
of
levies
that
the
some
of
our
most
important
resources
that
we
have,
whether
they
be
trucks
or
equipment
or
materials
that
they're
not
under
water,
and
we
tried
to
make
sure
that
phase
1
was
in
fact,
above
that
those
standards
and
I
would
hope
that
we
would
try
to
do
the
same.
A
A
All
right
now
we're
going
to
44
a
this
is
a
grant
and
sponsorship
for
the
following
council
communication
number
20-0.
One
6a
is
a
forty
thousand
dollar
grant
to
polk
county
for
the
implementation
of
a
welcoming
center
for
foreign-born
populations
in
the
greater
Des
Moines
area.
Customer
Manimal,
Thank.
F
F
You
know,
since
we
last
met
a
little
over
a
month
ago,
we've
seen
several
incidents
in
our
community
that
I,
don't
think
represent,
who
we
are
particularly
well
and
I.
Think
it's
important
that
we
acknowledge
that
you
know
there
was
a
Des
Moines
woman
who
got
some
national
attention
because
she
deliberately
hit
and
targeted
children
who
looked
to
be
immigrants,
and
there
were
two
incidents
of
that
happening.
F
I'm
glad
that
we're
taking
these
type
of
actions
and
I
think
we
can
combat
the
things
that
don't
represent
us
by
highlighting
the
things
that
do
and
highlighting
the
pieces
that
that
make
us
what
we
are
Hey
when
when
I
was
running,
I
talked
about
how
we
were
a
community
that
welcomes
immigrants
and
refugees.
Really
a
community,
that's
built
on
immigrants
and
refugees,
and
I
told
that
with
my
own
story,
I'm
a
fifth-generation
Des
Moines
Des
Moines
resident.
F
But
my
family's
story
really
goes
back
to
my
great
great
grandfather,
who
came
here
as
a
German
Jewish
immigrant.
At
a
time
when
German
Jewish
immigrants
didn't
necessarily
have
opportunity
everywhere,
but
in
Des
Moines
he
did.
He
was
able
to
build
a
life
here,
open
a
store
and
create
a
better
life,
not
just
for
himself.
But
what
turned
out
to
be
multiple
generations
of
his
family
and
that's
really
what
a
great
American
city
does.
F
It
creates
that
type
of
opportunity
for
anyone
who
wants
to
live
here,
work
here
be
a
part
of
building
and
strengthening
our
community,
and
that's
why
it's
really
important
for
us
to
talk
about
who
we
are
and
what
we
are.
We
are
a
community
that
welcomes
anyone
who
wants
to
be
a
part
of
it
who
wants
to
help
build
it,
and
we
are
that
community,
not
just
for
people
looking
for
a
better
life
today,
but
looking
to
help
build
a
better
life
for
generations
of
their
family
and
that's
what
this
welcoming
center
is
about.
F
N
Just
want
to
say
too
cuz
I'm
on
the
committee
for
the
welcoming
center
and
it's
a
much-needed
thing
for
our
community,
and
it
will
help
so
many
people
the
obstacles
that
the
immigrant
families
face
when
they
come
here.
I
saw
it
firsthand
when
I
was
on
the
school
board.
So
I
appreciate
the
city
helping
to
coordinate
and
help
fund
this
through
poet
with
Polk
County,
because
it
is
greatly
needed
to
help
coordinate
services.
So
people
can
get
the
help
that
they
need.
A
We
thought
we
could
just
have
a
moment
where
we
could
open
up
and
bring
a
lot
of
those
providers
of
services
together
and
that
people
would
just
you
know,
all
show
up
that
day
and
much.
To
my
surprise.
We
had
more
providers
there
than
we
had
others,
but
they're
looking
for
a
permanent
place
and
they're
looking
for
something
to
then
go
to
52
weeks
a
year
and
get
questions
answered
and
get
support
and
I.
A
Think
that
the
partnership
that
we
with
Polk
County
and
a
lot
of
these
providers
in
in
putting
this
Center
together
I
think,
is
going
to
help
lift
those
folks
up
and
let
them
know
that
there
is
support
there
and
word
is
and
what
it
is.
And
it
will
probably
we'll
all
learn
and
grow,
and
I
would
guess
that
the
services
that
are
provided
therein
will
grow
over
time
as
we
discover
daily
and
yearly
in
decades
moving
forward
the
needs
of
all
of
our
citizens.
So
I
proudly
support
this
in
vote
for
its.
N
Really
just
wanted
to
bring
up
the
point
that
I
know
we've
made
modification
and
changes
and
that
I
just
want
to
make
clear
that
we
are.
We
will
monitor
it
and
make
sure
that
it
works
for
both
the
venues
and
also
for
the
neighbors,
because
I
looks
like
we've
raised
some
and
we've
made
some
modifications
that
I
think
help
the
venues,
but
I
think
we
also
need
to
be
cognizant
of
some
of
the
neighbors
concern
and
I
know.
There's
a
step
in
here
about
monitoring
and
I.
Just
think.
N
D
A
A
F
And
I,
particularly
the
the
monitoring
piece
of
that
right
and
I
I,
know
that
that
that
piece
has
been
added
but
I
think
it's
gonna
be
particularly
important
to
our
residents
that
we're
paying.
We
continue
to
pay
attention
and
and
be
responsive.
You
know
this
is
the
second
season.
I
think
we've
learned
a
lot
if
these
that
some
of
these
venue,
we
learned
a
lot
in
the
first
season
and
have
made
some
modifications
accordingly.
I
think
we
need
to
just
keep
working
and
be
data-driven,
be
data-driven
and
try
and
get
the
balance
right.
So.
D
D
First
of
all,
it's
very
expensive
to
all
of
us
that
are
sitting
in
this
room
and
the
outcome
wasn't
any
different
than
the
very
first
election
and
I
feel
like
that.
We
have
a
duty
to
the
taxpayers
of
the
City
of
Des
Moines,
to
figure
out
and
to
get
it
right.
Now
we
have
there's
a
few
different
options
and
I'll
pass
these
out.
I,
don't
know
you
want
to
receive
and
file.
This
I
got
this
information
from
the
from
the
county
auditor's
office
and
here's
chapter
45
and
all
the
stuff.
You
probably
have
this
mr.
D
D
D
The
second
one
which
I
highlighted,
which
I
think
is
probably
the
best
choice
for
us.
If
we
really
are
going
to
think
about
the
money,
because,
as
you
go
further
down
the
page,
it
kind
of
talks
a
little
bit
about
that
regular
City
election
with
candidates
nominated
by
a
petition,
one
election
majority
wins.
Obviously
we
have
a
regular
city
election
number
three,
with
candidates
nominated
by
a
convention.
I,
don't
think
any
of
us
want
to
do
this
by
convention.
D
It's
a
it's
a
nonpartisan
race,
I
I,
don't
believe
that
that's
even
an
option,
three
or
four,
and
then
we
do
it
number
five
is
what
we
do
right
now
now
the
runoff
election
just
recently
cost
us
eighty
six
thousand
dollars
603
the
election
right
before
that
which
we
split
three
ways
between
the
city,
school
and
d-mac
is
fifty
two
thousand
and
four
hundred
and
sixty
dollars.
That
split
three
ways.
It
depends
on
how
many
d-mac,
how
many
d-max
gonna
have
is,
depends
on
how
evenly
that
split.
D
So
I
just
wanted
to
bring
this
up
as
a
conversation
we
can.
We
can
have
a
discussion
about
it,
I
just
first
off
the
way
the
legislation
has
changed.
The
rules
about
election
and
with
the
holiday
of
Thanksgiving,
in
the
middle
of
it
I
mean
I,
can
ask
three
of
my
colleagues
sitting
up
here
what
they
had
to
go
through
for
30
some
days.
It's
it's
somewhat
of
an
unfair
unfair
deal
for
everyone,
especially
when
you
vote
absentee
it's
very
difficult
to
do
any
type
of
absentee
voting
and
you're
dissin
disenfranchising
a
lot
of
voters.
D
If
you're
not
going
to
allow
that
the
way
the
legislation
is
set
up,
the
rules
and
with
the
holiday
in
the
middle
of
it
so
I'd
really
like
to,
and
it's
not
by
it's,
not
by
a
state.
We
can
change
this
ourself.
Our
mr.
attorney
can
drop
policy
ordinance
and
this
can
be
changed.
The
next
council
meeting,
if
we
wanted
to
do
that,
but
I
I,
just
think
it's
worth
a
discussion
by
all
of
us
and
see
where
we're
at
with
it
with
that
Connie
I
think.
N
That
one
thing
came
out
of
it
too,
was
when
you
brought
up
cost
I
know
we
had
residents
emailing
about
the
cost
of
an
election
and
what
it
has
come
to
now
for
a
city,
race
and
I.
Think
that
having
to
do
another
runoff
only
added
to
it,
of
course,
I
know
that
school
board
you
have
one
election,
it's
a
top
vote-getter
I,
don't
know.
If
we
can
do
that.
If
we
could
do
that,
I
think
to.
N
The
you
know,
if
we
could
do
that
to
me:
it's
the
easiest
thing.
It's
like
any
of
the
other
elections.
I
know
some
of
them
have
primaries,
but
I
think
in
this
case,
I
think
we
need
to
review
it
and
look
into
what
we
think
is
going
to
be
the
best
for
the
city
going
forward,
because
it
was
when
you
look
at
the
cost
of
86,000
plus
a
cost
for
all
candidates.
It
doesn't
really
matter
who
won,
who
lost
whatever?
N
D
D
All
you
needed
to
run
for
the
award
for
seat
I,
think
the
mayor's
was
a
little
over
200
or
through
to
300,
maybe
so
with
this
yeah
well,
with
this
it'll
be
25
signatures,
and
so
you
know
what
we
might
get
10
people
to
run,
but
you
know
what
you
still
got
to
do
the
work
and
you
and
you
still
got
to
be
the
top
vote
getter
and
it's
finished
at
that
point.
I
think
that's
the
fairest
way
to
do
it.
In
my
opinion,
yeah.
F
I
mean
I
Thank,
You,
councilman,
Gatto
and
blows
in
for
bringing
this
up,
because
I
I
think
it's
important
to
have
conversations
about
this.
I
I
would
certainly
support
making
changes.
I
think
we
can
have
a
more
streamlined
system.
I
do
have
one
question
and
it
might
not
be
something
that
we
can
currently
do
from
from
a
legal
perspective.
I
like
the
idea
of
ranked
choice,
voting
for
an
election
like
this
I,
don't
think
we
can
can't
do
it.
It.
F
And,
and
if
that,
if
that
is
the
case,
I
would
be
more
than
happy
to
make
this
change,
but
I
would
suggest
that
we
maybe
encourage
folks
up
at
the
Capitol
to
consider
for
elections
like
this,
a
ranked
choice,
option
which
would
particularly
if
there
is
no
one
who
is
getting
50%
in
that
first.
That
first
option
would
would
allow
us
to
still
capture
50%
without
doing
a
runoff
I.
F
Think
it's
worth
considering
that
item
I
recognize,
there's
difficulty
and
perhaps
getting
to
that,
but
but
there's
value
in
having
discussion
as
well
to
the
cost
piece.
I
think
we
should,
and
we
don't
really
address
that
other
than
the
cost
to
the
city
for
putting
on
an
election
I.
Think
the
other
piece
of
this
we
should.
We
should
be
as
a
council
considering
some
action
on
campaign
finance
limits.
I
believe
we
have
the
ability
to
do
that,
and
there
are
other
communities
in
the
state
that
have
done
that
and
I.
M
I
think
I
had
to
go
through
one
of
those
run
offs
and
it
is
pretty
painful
in
addition
to
the
taxpayers
money
that
I
think
is
not
well
spent
running
a
runoff
away,
you're
really
putting
the
citizens
at
a
disadvantage
because
you're
forcing
them
to
go
and
vote
twice
it.
As
you
see
you
know,
especially
if
you
go
and
try
to
get
as
many
absentee
ballots
and
you
have
a
runoff,
you
have
come
back
and
redo
that
process.
M
It
gets
cumbersome,
people
get
disillusioned
and
then
they
fall
off
so
I'm
all
in
favor
of
it
and
the
only
thing
I'd
have
against
a
ranked
election
is
I.
Don't
people
remember
quite
a
few
years
ago
a
candidate
for
the
school
board
said
you
know,
they're
supposed
to
vote
for
two
other
people,
just
don't
work
for
anybody,
but
me
so
I
can
make
sure
I
get
in
so
ranked
I'm,
not
in
favor
that
at
all,
so
I
could
manipulate
that
to
their
own
best
interest.
But
I
do
agree.
M
A
A
H
D
G
K
F
A
Ud
conceptual
plan
go
out
for
the
redevelopment
of
the
existing
vacant,
First
Church
of
Christ
Scientist,
with
demolition
of
a
portion
of
of
that
building,
and
an
addition
of
an
eight-story
42
unit
residential
condominium
tower
with
two
levels
being
indoor
parking,
the
building
would
have
first-floor
commercial
uses.
A
is
the
first
consideration
in
the
ordinance
above
and
B
is
the
final
consideration.
The
orange
above
the
way
was
requested
by
Kate
Miller
the
project
manager
and
requires
six
votes.
I
You
might
imagine
that
my
wife
and
I
she
can
be
here
tonight
because
it's
coaching
duties,
we
do
object
to
it.
We
object
to
the
resilient
classification
from
r3
and
or
r1
to
the
pod,
along
with
the
specifics
of
it.
We
don't
believe
that
the
zoning
change
to
PUD
doesn't
meet
the
intent
of
134,
691
and
693
I
think
would
be
legally
an
error
and
would
not
be
supported
by
any
type
of
substantial
evidence.
I
Having
settled
that,
look,
it's
a
good
project
right,
I'm,
not
here,
to
tell
you
that
this
project
isn't
generally
good
for
the
city
it
is,
but
if
you've
been
to
my
house,
I
know
that
mr.
Voss
was
one
time
because
he,
when
you're
going
door
at
the
door,
you
sit
on
my
back
patio
I
am
extremely
close
to
this
property,
extremely
close
and
I.
I
Don't
think
anyone
can
really
say
with
a
straight
face
that
they
would
want
to
live
at
my
house
with
this
property
being
there
I
think
living
through
the
construction
process
and
living
there
once
it's
done.
Is
it's
not
going
to
be
the
quality
of
life
that
my
wife
and
kids
woman
there's
going
to
be
increased
noise,
increased
light,
increased
traffic
when.
K
I
I
For
the
noise
for
the
people
for
the
light,
there's
a
reason
for
those
those
numbers,
just
don't
arrive
out
of
thin
air,
and
so
if
it
was
our
three,
the
setbacks
would
be
farther
right.
The
110
tall
portion
of
the
building
would
be
a
hundred
feet
from
my
north
property
line.
65
B
is
proposed,
pretty
big
difference,
that's
a
really
really
big
difference.
I
123
tall
portion
of
the
building
would
need
a
hundred
and
thirteen
feet
of
setback
from
my
north
line.
Eighty
nine
is
a
proposed.
So
why
does
that
matter
right?
Well,
this
is
an
eight
story
building,
but
what
I've
been
told?
It's
really
gonna
be
bout
to
fall
to
ten
story
building,
because
the
developer
has
elected
at
10,
foot
ceilings
right
and
it's
gonna
block,
trees,
sky,
Sun,
no
I
mean
it,
there's
it
it's
so
so
close.
So
we
do
object
to
that
PUD
setback.
I
We
think
our
three
would
be
better.
I
haven't
yes
to
be
fair,
I
haven't
necessarily
asked
I,
don't
know
why
I
don't
know
you
all
know
why
why
the
are
three
setback
can't
be
used?
I,
don't
know
if
that's
even
been
discussed
within
the
city
meetings
right.
Why
can't
they
use
our
three?
Has
there
been
any
pushback
any
compromise
on
that?
I?
Don't
know
the
answer.
I
suspect
right:
it's
because
they
want
more
space.
They
want
more
units,
they're
gonna,
say
it's
not
financially
feasible
to
use
the
r3
setbacks.
I
Well,
but
let's
also
be
clear
right
I
mean
it's:
it's
not
financially
feasible
with
the
design
that
they're
choosing
to
develop.
Okay.
So
there's
a
little
bit
of
choice.
There
I've
heard
a
lot
terms.
Well,
it's
market
driven,
it's
market
driven,
but
they're
also
pushing
that
market
they're,
the
ones
that
probably
set
forth
the
ten-foot
ceilings
the
floor,
the
ceiling
windows,
the.
K
I
I
O
G
I
Yeah
I'm,
sorry
so
art
three
patios
on
the
south
side
right
overlooking
our
backyard
and
I
know
that
there
was
a
comment
at
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Board
that
the
people
will
be
looking
at
central
or
at
waterworks
park.
I
realize
that
the
people
probably
will
want
to
work.
Look
at
waterworks
part.
That's
really
not
the
point.
The
point
is
it:
there's
gonna
be
numerous
people
that
have
the
ability
to
be
outside
and
staring
down
at.
My
back,
you
are
that's
the
point.
I
Those
are
the
two
big
two
big
issues:
the
pool,
obviously,
more
noise,
more
people
right
by
the
street
right
on
the
West
Lawn
I,
am
concerned
about
the
landscaping
and
the
boundaries
I
want
to
make
sure
that
you
all
know
and
are
clear,
I'm
a
little
confused.
There
was
going
to
be
trees
and
whatnot
and
I
think
there
still
are,
but
there's
also
over
ground
utilities
there
and
I
don't
know
if
that's
gonna
be
replaced
with
underground
to
allow
all
these
trees
for
the
buffer
between
my
property
and
this
property.
I
So
I'm
not
sure
about
that.
We
do
object
to
the
waiver
of
the
reading.
I
think
it
has
to
be
read
three
times:
I,
don't
know
the
basis
to
wait
that
keep
in
mind
that
I
only
have
five
minutes
so
that
that
is
primarily
it
everyone
for
the
most
part
right,
it's
been
helpful,
they've
been
polite.
That's
really
not
the
point
in
terms
of
really
trying
to
assist
us
or
trying
to
compromise
each
request
that
we've
made
has
been
find
and
that's
okay.
I
I
mean
that's,
that's
their
right,
that's
their
property,
but
we
all
obviously
have
these
big
concerns
about
the
proximity
of
this
location
right
to
a
house,
there's
a
reason
for
them.
Zoning
rules
and
there's
a
reason
why
you
don't
want
this
large
structure
with
this
many
people
so
close
to
a
residential.
Thank
you
very
much.
Okay,.
J
A
P
My
name
is
Kate
Miller
and
I
work
for
hariom,
cam,
boogie
and
working
as
the
project
manager
and
the
development
of
the
37:51
grande
condominiums
I
live
at
710,
45th
Place
here
in
Point,
speaking
in
broad
terms,
and
then
I
can
kind
of
narrow
it
down
to
some
of
the
comments
that
mr.
Palmer
made.
The
hairy
Pam
have
seen
this
site
for
a
number
of
years.
They
live
in
the
neighborhood
yeah.
My
understanding
is
that
there
have
been
many
others
who
have
looked
at
redevelopment
opportunities
there,
and
this
has
really
had
legs.
P
We
introduced
the
concept
to
the
market
in
September
and
we've
been
very
busy
ever
since
we're
at
64%
pre-sold
gross
sales
reserved
and
contracted
with
non-refundable
earnest
money.
So
we
have
seen
a
pent-up
demand
for
a
type
of
product
like
this
coming
to
the
market.
It
is
a
contemporary
style
living.
P
In
the
back,
where
there
has
been
some
issues
with
drainage
in
the
past
in
the
long
green
with
school,
that
becomes
a
green
space
with
the
dog
park.
I'll
pass
on
to
Brad
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
setbacks,
but
to
address
Jason's
comments.
Specific
to
that
we
have.
We
have
heard
him
and
we
have
done
what
we
can,
while
still
maintaining
the
integrity
of
the
project
of
the
project
itself.
P
The
components
of
the
project
in
order
to
salvage
the
church
line
along
Grand
Avenue
and
the
setbacks
that
there
just
isn't
enough
room
to
do
much
while
maintaining
the
existing
structure.
And
that
has
been
the
intent
of
the
project
since
the
beginning
would
be
to
salvage
as
much
as
we
can
of
the
existing
site.
Can.
G
H
Hi
everyone,
I'm
Brad,
Hartman,
Hartman,
trap
architecture
studio.
Our
offices
are
in
1011
Locust
Street
above
in
the
temple
for
Performing
Arts,
to
jump
right
into
your
question,
so
so
the
existing
condition.
If
people
haven't
seen
it,
the
back
side
of
the
church,
which
is
a
40
foot
tall
stone,
building
with
no
windows,
is
12
feet
from
the
property
line
of
Mr
Palmer's
property,
and
so
one
of
the
things
that
we
started
when
we
looked
at
the
project
was
first
and
foremost
for
the
neighborhood
maintain
as
much
of
the
historic
churches
we
possibly
can.
So.
H
The
two
wings
actually
that
are
along
Grand
Avenue
are
are
programmed
with
amenities,
but
they
are
being
preserved
and
maintained
for
the
building.
So
that
starts
our
setback
for
where
the
new
tower
needs
to
go,
and
so
we
worked
very
closely
with
City
Des
Moines
for
codes
and
for
fire
marshal
to
maximize
the
amount
of
distance
between
the
Palmer
property
line
and
where
we
are
so,
we
went
from
12
feet
to
44
feet
to
the
beginning
of
the
parking
and
then
the
tower
is
65
feet
away.
H
So
we're
greatly
increasing
the
distance
along
that
and
then
what
we
did
was
instead
of
the
the
vacant
alleyway
being
right
against
the
property
line,
we've
pulled
it
back
at
least
six
feet
and
the
PUD
calls
for
mature
conifers
planted
all
the
way
through
there
I
think
there's
some
ginkgos
in
there
to
add
some
variety,
but
not
saplings,
but
mature
trees.
He
has
the
option
if
he
wants
to
pick
the
privacy
fence
that
goes
along
there
as
well,
so
an
existing
condition
of
12
feet.
H
Setback
with
a
very
neglected,
alleyway
and
parking
lot
gets
replaced
by
44
feet.
The
pool
is
again
44
feet
away,
but
it's
extensively
landscaped
as
part
of
the
pewdie
between
the
two
places
and
by
city
code.
Light
can't
pass
beyond
the
property
line
anyway,
so
we
have
very
low
cutoff
fixtures
along
that
entire
area,
to
ensure
that
we
meet
to
code
anyway,
which
won't
increase
that.
So
all
of
these
circumstances
have
been
put
into
place,
I
mean,
arguably
from
a
design
prerogative
vastly
improve
the
condition
of
what
the
existing
circumstances
for
it.
H
And
again,
that's
thanks
to
the
city,
one
of
the
other
things
the
city
did
was
they
looked
at?
Oh
I,
think
there
are
12
properties,
high-rise
properties,
all
of
which,
from
the
Barbican
all
the
way
down
to
the
Moines
University
have
the
same
setbacks
that
we
do
with
our
proposal:
Palmer's
residence,
Falls
right
exactly
in
the
middle
for
distance
between
property
and
where
the
towers
are,
and
also
the
city
looked
through
and
even
going
down
to
the
park
floor
because
the
park
floor
has
properties
right
against
it.
H
Property
values
in
every
circumstance
have
actually
gone
up
very
well
in
these
neighborhoods
right
up
against
these
these
areas
and
we're
to
the
north.
So
there
is
no
daylight
impact
whatsoever
with
this
property,
we're
minimizing
trees
and
we're
adding
a
lot
of
trees
to
the
site.
So
it
actually
is
a
pretty
good.
So
it's
a
pretty
good
win-win
for
everyone
around
it,
and
that's
why
everyone
else
supports
the
project
and.
H
H
K
J
A
J
Me
spell
it
jo
r
de
arte,
al
d,
jo
okay
and
respect.
You
are
I
believe
what
his
purchase
was.
He
purchased
it
within
the
existing
zoning
code
and
given
that
she
purchased
that
she
trusts
and
given
now
that
the
opportunity
has
come
about
for
individuals
to
infect
profit
by
a
potential
rezoning,
the
trust
that
he
purchased
a
property
within.
It's
invalidated
and
I.
J
That
done.
Those
issues
are
addressed
by
those
who
have
interest
in
the
development
in
the
change
of
the
circumstances,
but
nevertheless,
I
believe
that
the
individual
who
purchased
the
home
purchase
it
in
good
faith
being
purchased
it
with
the
aspect
that
privacy
was
attached
to
his
prior
to
his
purchase.
Thank
you.
Mary.
I
So
the
distance
from
my
north
prop
property
line
at
the
church,
I
think
what
you
have
to
consider
is
that
was
done.
I
think
before
there
was
a
zoning
regs
right,
so
the
baseline,
isn't
the
distance
between
my
house
and
Church
the
baseline
is
our
3x9,
that's
how
its
zoned
right
now,
and
so
you
have
zoning
setbacks
right
now.
That's
the
baseline
and
even
if
you
want
to
consider
the
distance
between
my
north
line
and
the
church
as
the
baseline,
two
entirely
different
structures.
I
As
you
said,
there's
no
windows,
there's
no
people,
there's
there's
there's
there's
it's
just
totally
different.
So
while
I
definitely
understand
the
point
and
to
a
certain
extent,
I
can
appreciate
how
it's
going
to
be
farther
back.
It's
also
going
to
be
much
much
taller
with
a
much
much
at
different
use.
Number
two
as
it
relates
to
these
other
apartment,
buildings
and
homes.
I
saw
that
sheet
at
the
building
and
zoning
ortho
zoning
pansy.
D
I
I
Unlike
all
those
other
buildings,
it's
really
very,
very
unique
how
this
building
sits
compared
to
my
house,
which
is
different
than
all
the
others
which
might
have
a
a
corner
or
it
sits
behind
and
certainly
doesn't
have
patios
overlooking
the
two
back
yards
other
of
the
other
houses
with
the
other,
a
condo
building.
Thank
you
very
much.
F
F
We
started
seeing
more
and
more
complaints
about
it
because
it
has
been
sitting
here
and
this
isn't
the
first
proposal.
There
was
a
proposal
for
redevelopment
of
this
property
well
before
I
was
on
the
council,
and
this
property
has
sat
and
deteriorated
since
then,
and
it's
gotten
to
the
point
where
the
structure,
much
of
it,
can't
be
saved
it's
a
nuisance.
It's
a
potential
to
have
squatting
and
and
other
problems,
and
those
problems
will
continue
and
will
significantly
impact,
not
just
mr.
Palmer
but
the
entire
neighborhood,
and
this
project
is
a
really
good
solution.
F
F
I
understand
Mr
Palmer's
concerns
anytime,
that
there
is
new
development.
There
are
folks
who
are
impacted.
It
would
be
nice
if
we
could
develop
and
grow
with
with
absolutely
no
impacts,
but
that's
just
not
not
possible,
but
one
of
the
things
that
is
remarkable
about
this
project
is
the
level
of
buy-in
from
the
neighbors
in
the
neighborhood,
and
that
is
I.
Think
in
part
you
know
there
was
a
packed
community
meeting
where
folks
were
engaged
in
asking
questions.
F
There's
been
design
changes
made
in
response
to
that,
and
that's
that's
part
of
how
this
should
work
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
the
effort
that
has
been
made
by
BH
equities
and
the
project
team
I
think
there's
a
better
project
because
of
that
I
I
recognize
the
proximity
to
mr.
Palmer
and
I.
You
know
there
are
a
few
things
that
are
particularly
compelling
to
me.
I
mean
one:
the
setbacks
from
what
exists
today
and
a
property
that
that
is
deteriorating
and
a
nuisance
is
closer
to
that
closer
to
his
property
than
what
is
proposed.
F
I.
The
project
also
fits
with
the
character
of
Grant
Avenue.
There
are
a
dozen
different
towers
along
Grand
Avenue,
and
there
are
several
you
know.
The
Barbican
was
one
that
was
mentioned
and
the
the
setbacks
at
the
Barbican
are
similar
and
there
are
patios
on
the
barber
not
where,
where
where
there
are
houses
and
yards
directly
adjacent.
But
there
are
several
other
properties.
F
The
Senate
house,
which
is
at
at
29th
and
grand
is
there
a
13
foot
setback
from
a
single-family
dwelling
there
next
to
the
Barbican
at
four
thousand
and
four
grand
there's
a
25
foot
setback.
So
this
is
within
within
the
realm
and
character
of
Grand
Avenue
as
a
whole,
and
so
this
in,
in
my
mind,
is
a
reasonable
more
than
reasonable
project,
because
it's
solving
a
problem
and
an
ongoing
issue
for
the
neighborhood
and
making
a
significant
improvement
in
a
significant
investment
and
preserving
I
think
this
is
particularly
important.
F
Preserving
what
can
be
preserved
of
a
an
old
old
church
that
provides
character
in
the
neighborhood.
So
with
that
I'm
I'm
happy
to
move
this
and
I'll
wait
for
the
discussion
and
and
how
that
comes
out,
but
I,
don't
think
I,
don't
think
anything
that
we
do
tonight
is
necessarily
going
to
change
between
a
second
and
a
third
reading.
Given
the
extensive
process
above
and
beyond,
just
the
requirements
of
the
code
that
the
developer
has
gone
through,
so
I'd
be
willing,
if
it's
the
consensus
of
the
council
to
waive
the
second
third
reading
as
well.
A
G
I
I
just
feel
bad
for
the
homeowner
I
mean
I,
think
it's
a
great
project
and
it's
I,
just
I'm
struggling
with
the
with
the
property
owners
right
I
mean
that's
he's
I'm,
assuming
it's
a
nice
property
that
he
has
and
I
mean.
How
can
he
enjoy
his
backyard?
When
he's
got
people
looking
down?
If
we
could
just,
is
there
any
way
that
move
it
back?
Is
it
I
mean?
Is
there
any
resolution.
F
My
understanding
is
they've
considered
and
worked
and
made
a
whole
series,
as,
as
you
heard
them,
articulate
a
whole
series
of
design,
accommodations
and
and
I
think
we've
gotten
to
the
point
within
a
project
where
we've
just
got
to
make
a
decision
and
I
wish.
We
I
wish.
We
didn't
have
to
impact
anyone,
but
this
project
is
going
to
be
good
for
the
neighborhood
and
a
significant
improvement
I
think
for
for
all
properties,
so
I.
N
Guess
the
well
I
was
gonna
say
to
the
point
of
the
different
projects
that
are
longer,
and
this
is
very
much
in
keeping
with
many
of
those
projects
and
I
understand
that
when
they
had
first
purchased,
this
was
a
church
but
a
long
grand.
This
is
very
pretty
much
standard
with
all
the
condos
and
everything
that
have
gone
up
and
having
just
seen
that
church
this
winter,
because
we
got
to
use
the
parking
lot,
it's
in
terrible
condition.
N
If
something
doesn't
get
done,
it
will
bring
down
values
even
in
a
greater
way
and
because
no
matter
what's
going
to
go
there,
it
will
have
to
probably
be
something
of
a
higher
building.
It
will
there's
what
else
will
go
there,
because
another
church
will
not
go
into
that
space.
So
I
look
from
a
city
standpoint.
We
have
to
look
at
this
meets
with
what
we
wanted.
N
I
think
they've
made
provisions
and
maybe
can
do
even
more
provisions
that
might
help
alleviate
the
issue
for
what
you
know
the
homeowner
next
door,
but
I
think
from
a
standpoint
of
the
city
think
this
is
the
best
thing
we
can
do
with
this
property
and
really
for
the
neighborhood
and
looking
at
a
lot
of
responses,
the
majority
of
the
neighborhood
do
support
it
again.
They
don't
live
right
next
door.
D
I
mean
I,
I
I,
do
know
the
area
and
it
is
going
to
be
an
improvement
in
the
area.
It
is
unfortunate.
Mr.
Palmer
is
in
the
situation
that
he's
in
I
mean,
but
right
now,
I,
don't
I,
don't
think
your
property
value
is
very
good
sitting
next
to
what
you've
got
sitting
it
next
to
compared
to
what
they're
going
to
build
there
I
think
your
property
value
is
going
to
increase
along
with
what
they're
going
to
build
there,
whether
it's
close
to
it
or
whether
it's
not
it
happens
all
all
around.
D
In
other
big
cities
where
homes
are
right
next
to
high-rises
and
they're
sold
every
single
day,
so
I
mean
I,
would
I
know
it's
something
different
and
something
new
and
something
you're
not
used
to,
but
right
now
what
we're
looking
at
at
the
city
is
I
mean
that
church
is
it's
not
in
very
good
shape.
The
alleys
down
in
very
good
shape.
The
whole
area
is
not
in
very
good
shape,
so
I
would
be
supportive
of
councilman
or
man-mana.
Boms
motion
and
yeah
I
mean
there's.
O
O
Mr.
mayor
members
of
the
council
good
evening,
Pat
done
with
RTG
Planning
&
Design
on
behalf
of
Mercy
one
I'm
here
to
represent
that
the
three
quick
comments
first
comment:
we
wanted
to
thank
the
city
staff
for
helping
us
prepare
this
submittal.
This
is
the
sixth
amendment
to
complex
campus
with
a
lot
of
different
components,
and
so
we
appreciate
the
city
staff
in
helping
us
get
get
a
submit.
O
All
organized
second
quick
comment
is
that
Mercy
one
has
invested
a
significant
amount
of
design
time
and
attempting
to
try
to
to
come
up
with
a
concept
for
this
signage.
That
is
significantly
better
than
than
what's
there
today
and
actually
reduces
the
quantity
of
a
sign
square
footage
from
what
is
currently
approved
so
mercy.
One
has
invested
time
to
take,
what's
approved
now
and
reduce
the
square
footage
in
an
attempt
to
work
with
the
city
in
the
neighborhood
and
come
up
with
a
concept
that
then
makes
good
sense.
O
The
the
concept
and
answer
all
their
questions
and
go
through
all
of
the
details
of
the
project
to
the
point
where
they
they
reached
agreement
on
that
we're
happy
to
get
those
drawings
out
tonight
and
share
all
those
with
you
as
well
in
lieu
of
doing
that,
I
will
I
will
wait
to
see
if
you
have
any
questions
and
be
happy
to
get
out
any
drawings.
So
with
that,
oh
we're
we're
here
ready
to
answer
any
questions.
You
have.
M
Have
that
concur,
Josh
I
think
we
have
a
great
partner
here
at
Mercy,
I've
been
great
friends
to
the
Riverbend
Neighborhood
Association.
You
guys
are
constantly
in
the
forefront
of
helping
make
our
neighborhoods
a
lot
better.
So
appreciate
everything
that
you
do.
Thank
you
let's
say
hi
to
Sandy
too.
A
61
is
on
East
30th
Street
bridge
rehabilitation
over
the
Union
Pacific
Railroad
resolution,
approving
the
plans,
specifications
form
of
contract
documents,
engineers
Essman,
designating
the
lowest
responsible
bidder
as
Kramer
&,
Associates,
Inc,
Robert
Kramer
president
and
CEO
eight
million
one
hundred
and
sixty
eight
thousand
eight
hundred
and
fifty
nine
dollars
and
twelve
cents
Hayden.
What
do
you
think
of
that?
But
any
rate
council
communication
and
number
twenty
dash
zero
one.
Five
a
is
approving
the
contract
and
the
bond
and
permission
to
subway.
M
D
A
62
on
the
42nd
Street
reconstruction
from
Grand
Avenue
to
Pleasant,
Street
resolution,
Rubin
plans,
specifications
form
of
contract
documents,
engineers
estimate
and
designating
the
lowest
responsible
bidder
as
Grimes
asphalt
and
paving
corporation
Rasmussen
is
the
president
six
hundred
and
sixteen
thousand
thirty
six
dollars
and
38
cents,
council
communication
number
20-0
to
2a,
approving
the
contract
and
bond
and
permission
to
sublet.
Anyone
here
to
speak
to
this
item.
I'm
62
and
62
a.
K
F
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to
item
63
item
63
is
on
the
market
district
sanitary
sewer,
enforced
main
resolution,
approving
the
plans,
specifications,
form
of
contract
documents,
engineer's
estimate
and
designating
the
lowest
responsible
bidder
is
MPs
engineers,
PC
doing
business
as
Kingston
services,
PC
Loomis,
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a
cheat
a
president,
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three
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ninety
six
thousand
two
hundred
and
thirty
three
thousand
fifty
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counts
of
communication.
Number
twenty
zero
to
six
is
approving
the
contract
in
the
bond
and
permission
to
sublet.
Anyone
here
to
speak
to
this
item
on
the
Market
District
sanitary
sewer,
enforce
main
I.
A
Right
that
completes
the
hearings
at
543.
Let's
quickly
move
back
to
one
remaining
item,
I
believe
which
is
item
57
item
57
is
on
a
request
from
Kalu's
e
construction.
Llc
Mitch
bluesy
is
the
officer
for
an
appeal
of
the
administrative
and
planning
zone.
Commission
denial
of
a
plat
of
survey
submitted
for
property
in
the
5600
block
of
South
East
27th
Street,
currently
described
as
out
walk.
Why?
A
D
Mr.
mayor
I've
had
discussions
with
mr.
Coe
Lucy
and
with
city
staff.
I
would
I
would
go
with
a
staff
recommendation
and
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
of
denial
is
just
someone
trying
to
circumvent
the
the
rules
and
so
I
would
I
would
vote
to
deny
that
and
said
correct.
Mr.
attorney.
Okay,
so
might
look
good
tonight,
so
my
motion
would
be
to
deny
yeah
it's
the
request.
You
know
so.