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Des Moines City Council Meeting on Monday, February 24, 2020 in Des Moines, Iowa.
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A
People
gathered
together
in
Seneca,
Falls
New
York
incited
an
unfairness
of
depriving
women
of
the
right
to
vote.
The
right
for
women's
suffrage
lasted
more
than
72
years,
with
women
from
all
walks
of
life.
Political
views,
demographic
backgrounds
in
asking
for
the
right
to
vote
their
opinions
at
the
polls
and
Iowa
women
by
the
thousands
advocated
for
the
right
to
vote
and
the
nationwide
action
pushed
for
a
single
constitutional
amendment.
A
Now,
therefore,
I
mayor,
the
City
of
Des
Moines
on
behalf
of
our
City
Council
of
Des
Moines,
do
hereby
proclaim
the
year
of
2020
as
the
19th
amendment
Centennial
commemoration,
and
we
encourage
everyone
to
celebrate
the
hundredth
anniversary.
The
passage
of
the
ratification,
the
19th
amendment
and
enjoy
the
freedom
of
voter
participation
continue
to
fight
for
voting
rights
for
all
citizens
and
inspire
future
generations
to
cherish
and
preserve
the
historical
precedent
established
under
the
19th
amendment.
Thank
you
for
everything.
C
Just
wanted
to
let
everyone
know
that
the
Des
Moines
League
of
metro,
Women
Voters,
is
going
to
have
be
having
a
centennial
gala
at
the
River
Center
I'm,
so
I'm
gonna
put
in
a
plug
on
August
27th,
which
is
actually
just
one
day
after
the
100th
anniversary
of
ratification.
So
would
encourage
you
all
to
go
if
you're
on
Facebook
it's
under
19,
Centennial
gala,
you
can
look
it
up
buy
tickets
through
some
kind
of
technological
Eventbrite
or
something,
and
as
well
as
inviting
all
the
councilmembers
and
mayor
County
to
attend.
Thank
you
very
much.
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Right,
we've
got
a
couple
minutes
to
start
the
City
Council
meeting,
but
I
think
we
should
jump
right
in
and
have
a
quick
meeting.
The
municipal
housing
agency
governing
board-
and
here
we
are
February
24th
I-
will,
let's
call
the
meeting
to
order
and
I'll
ask
the
clerk.
Please
take
the
roll,
the
board
county.
B
A
A
J
G
A
A
A
Item
choose
approving
the
agenda
as
presented
and/or
as
amended
this
evening
item
12
I
was
added
its
recommendation
from
councilmember
Mandelbaum
to
appoint
Stacy
Hanley
to
the
urban
design
review
board
seat.
Six
for
the
term
expiring,
June
30
of
2021
19
is
correct.
Its
roll
call
in
27
was
at
its
conceptual
development
plan
with
those
changes,
though
it's
been
moved
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye
opposed
all
right
item
three
is
approving
the
consent
agenda.
These
are
items
3
through
42
tonight
generally
for
everybody
in
the
audience.
A
A
Item
four
D
councilmember
gato
is
going
to
abstain,
item
25,
councilmember,
gray,
votes,
no
item;
32
councilmember
gray
wishes
to
speak
in
item
36,
councilmembers,
bozan
and
gray
wish
to
speak
because
are
there
any
other
items
that
anyone
would
like
to
have
pulled
for
additional
discussion
or
clarification
again?
Those
are
items
3
through
42
I've.
L
G
A
I
You
mayor
just
a
quick
highlight
this
is
probably
one
of
the
game.
Changing
events
we're
going
to
have
on
the
northwest
side
of
Des
Moines.
We
started
out
over
three
years
ago
in
the
basement
of
Jeremy's
church
and
with
the
great
leadership
of
Brian
O'leary.
We
were
able
to
get
a
coalition
of
people
put
together
that
understood
that
the
future
of
the
Northwest
side
lies
along
the
Douglas
Avenue
corridor.
It
started
out
with
just
the
concerned
neighbors
from
lower
beaver,
Neighborhood
Association
and
then
decided
to
do
that.
I
We
can
take
this
thing
west
and
go
all
the
way
to
Merle
hay
road
and
pick
up
the
beaver,
Dale
neighborhood
the
Merle
hay
neighborhood
and
make
it
a
concerted
effort
that
we
can
get
something
done.
That's
going
to
bring
businesses
back
to
this
area
and
we
had
a
few
stumbling
blocks
but
I
like
the
direction
it's
coming
out.
We
have
some
very
energetic
people
I,
see
nothing
but
bright
spots
for
the
future
of
that
corridor.
Maybe
a
few
years
down
the
road
before
we
see
a
finished
product
but
I'm
very
proud
of
everybody.
I
A
Okay,
that
takes
us
again
to
item
36
item.
36
is
again
approving
to
receive
and
file
the
Public
Works
stormwater
infrastructure,
Advisory
Committee
policy
and
rules
and
initial
committee
membership
lists.
Council
communication
number
twenty
dash,
zero,
six,
six
council,
member,
boza
and
gray,
who,
let's
start
honey
well.
M
I
just
want
to
talk
about
the
dedication
that
our
citizens
have
had
to
put
this
together
and
the
work
they
have
done
to
improve
the
situation
where
they
live
and
and
I
believe
on
this
group
too.
It's
I
just
applauding
what
they've
done
and
I
think
this
way
will
be
good
oversight
and
they're
gonna
be
reporting
back
to
us
and
we
can
monitor
the
stormwater
issues
much
closely
and
the
goal
would
be
that
someday.
Eventually,
they
all
go
away
because
everything
specs
I,
don't
think
that'll
be
I.
M
I
Right
Connie,
as
we
sat
through
those
earlier
meetings,
they
were
pretty
contentious
and
it
was
pointed
out
to
us
that
we
had
a
twenty
five
year
plan.
We
might
have
a
15
year
plan.
We
might
have
a
five
year
plan,
nobody
knew
for
sure.
So
we
it
my
itself.
I
was
wondering:
where
did
these
original
plans
come
from?
Why
don't
we
know
about
them?
And
what
are
we
going
to
do
going
forward
and
we
have
two
fine?
N
This
was
something
that
was
needed
to
be
done
years
ago
and
had
not
been
done.
I
also
want
to
thank
all
of
you
for
a
lot
in
money
from
the
stormwater
tax,
the
new
local
tax
for
stormwater
stormwater
tax
to
me,
and
also
for
the
RFP
or
assessment,
and
it's
actually
the
assessment
and
the
long-range
plan.
They're.
Bringing
me
to
you
tonight
because
I
have
a
concern,
we're
going
to
be
looking
I,
think
they're
going
to
be
assessing
71
water
basins,
that's
a
lot
of
water
basins
and
they're
all
over
the
city
and
I.
N
Think
the
map
gives
you
a
good
view
of
that
and
the
of
those
70
111
are
somewhat
in
process.
Two
are
actually
happening,
one
is
on
hold
for
technical
reasons,
and
eight
of
them
are
still
in
the
design
stage,
so
that
leaves
us
another
60
to
take
care
of
and
folks
the
amount
of
money
we're
looking
at
now
is
not
going
to
begin
to
cover
it
and
that's
my
concern.
N
N
My
husband
took
part
in
one
back
in
2000,
1998
2000,
and
we
get
studies
we
get
projects
designed
they
get
put
on
the
shelf,
they
do
not
get
funded
and
it
is
a
responsibility,
the
council,
to
determine
what
will
be
funded
and
to
make
changes
where
you
need
to
or
prioritize
it's,
not
the
staff
and
it's
not
an
advisory
committee,
but
I
think
if
we
have
people
that
are
appointed
by
the
council
report
to
the
council,
in
addition
to
the
advisory
committee,
it
would
be
more
effective
and
long
term.
It's
the
continuity
that
we
need.
N
N
If
your
streets
are
flooding,
your
homes
are
flooding,
and
what
have
you
so
I
would
urge
you
to
consider
solidifying
this
if
you
will
and
making
it
something
that
will
carry
over,
because
these
projects
are
anticipated
to
take
anywhere
from
20
to
25
years
to
complete
we've
been
over
20
years
now
on,
closes
Creek
and
I,
don't
think
any
of
us
staff,
council
or
committee
members
are
going
to
be
working
on
this
in
25
years.
We've
got
to
have
something
that
will
be
in
place
that
will
be
replaced
until
we
can
say.
M
O
O
It's
very
important
that
that
this
committee
board,
whatever
you
call
it
report
directly
to
the
City
Council.
We
need
to
have
that
direct
appointment
staff
so
far,
and
this
Advisory
Committee
has
done
a
great
job.
Although
at
the
last
committee
this
was
called
an
ad-hoc
committee.
This
is
not
an
ad-hoc
issue.
This
is
an
issue
that
is
very
serious
for
the
city.
It's
a
safety
issue.
O
O
O
You
know
once
this
is
received
and
filed
or
once
you
know
what
happens
today.
What
are
the
next
steps?
It's
it's
taken
three
meetings
for
us
to
still
not
have
a
structure
in
place.
You
know
currently
we're
set
to
me
quarterly
and
and
Patrick
bean
is
doing
a
great
job.
I,
don't
want
to
minimize
the
job
that
that
staff
is
doing,
but
but
I
need
to
know
what
this
next
step
on.
This
is
be
there.
It's
so
important
that
it
reports
directly
to
you
all
so
that
we
can
keep
this
moving
ahead.
I
Jenny
I
agree
so
I'm
gonna,
move
item
36,
but
I
also
want
to
direct
the
city
manager
to
take
a
look
at
this
because
you
know:
we've
got
a
Traffic.
Safety
Committee
meets
once
a
month,
I
believe
the
stormwater
Advisory
Committee
should
be
meeting
once
a
month,
there's
something
that's
always
going
on
and
as
they've
pointed
out
and
as
we
heard
out
in
the
field
about
a
year
and
a
half
ago,
there's
not
a
whole
lot
of
communication
that
was
coming
back
to
us
to
get
back
out
in
the
field.
I
I
would
like
to
see
60
days.
Do
you
think
we
could
put
together
the
framework
and
I?
Think
Jonathan
me
a
fantastic
coordinator
for
this,
but
I
would
like
to
see
probably
a
seven
member
board
where
each
one
of
us
gets
an
appointment
and
we
can
set
this
thing
up
so
that
every
ward
in
the
city
is
covered.
We
understand
what's
going
on
and
when
they
report
to
us
much
like
the
energy
conservation
group
does.
I
J
O
I
P
O
A
P
A
A
O
A
O
A
Part
understand
because
a
lot
of
these
are
driven
by
an
event,
but,
quite
frankly,
we
get
considerable
updates
on
status
of
infrastructure
as
a
for
instance,
meeting
with
citizens.
That's
why
you
and
and
Gloria
have
helped
us
get
input,
we're
spending
three
hundred
million
dollars
to
look
at
streets
and
then
do
a
hundred
and
forty
five
million
dollars
worth
of
improvements
in
storm
sewers
and
everything
else,
and
we
agree,
there's
probably
a
lot
more
that
we
need
to
do,
but
we
need
to
stay
on
top
of
it.
A
47Th
and
Holcomb
and
nothing's
happening
there,
but
all
of
a
sudden,
then
we
have
a
flood
that
tops
a
levee
or
a
levee
breaches
and
all
of
a
sudden,
we
have
to
put
money
over
in
a
different
project
and
respond
to
an
immediate
need,
because
the
river
is
going
to
fill
up
that
particular
area
every
day.
And
so
we
have
to
you,
know,
respond
appropriately,
and
you
know
we're
gonna
have
to
continue,
expand
it
and
I.
A
Think
that
vision,
looking
forward
of
you
know
where
some
of
these
spots
are
and
in
water
basins
and
all
that
and
how
we're
going
to
deal
with
it
is
the
appropriate
thing
and
why
we
directed
staff
to
do
things,
and
it
is
because
of
citizen
input
that
we're
spending
all
this
money
to
do
certain
things
all
around
this
city
in
a
dress.
So
many
things
I
but
I
think
that
your
your
comments
are
appropriate
and
we
ought
to
find
a
way
to
continue
to
get
citizen
input.
O
A
O
J
M
M
If
you
meeting
people,
hopefully
they'll,
be
in
good
attendance,
and
if
we
have
some
responsibilities
that
we've
appointed
them
and
it'll
be
more
attending,
but
the
other
thing
is
to
have
a
yearly
monitoring
report
of
the
status
of
what
we
said
we
were
gonna
do.
Did
we
accomplish
what
we're
gonna
do,
and
you
know
we
know
what
the
plan
is,
how
many
years
out,
it's
very
much
reporting
what
our
plan
and
they
report
to
us
with
that.
Well,.
J
I
mean
if
monitoring
the
plan,
maybe
we
got
to
do
it
every
six
months.
I
mean
I
would
be
all
in
favor
of
that
I
have
a
difficult
time
getting
volunteers
from
work
for
to
step
up
and
to
serve
on
boards
and
commissions
period,
I'll
find
them
for
you,
I
just
do
and
well
I
mean
they've
got
to
be
aware
of
your
issues
in
all
of
our
issues
of
flooding,
and
you
know,
there's
I,
look
at
my
map
and
see
where
my
ward
is.
J
M
A
For
this
issue
point
here
that
you
know
she
said
that
you
know
you
start
out
with
27
and
then
13
and
no
em7,
that's
a
lot
when
we
make
appointments
to
boards
and
commissions
generally
there's
a
attendance
requirement,
and
so,
if
hopefully,
if,
let's
say
we
put
7
on
there,
if
they
are
not
showing
up,
then
after
a
while
we're
gonna
have
to
replace
them.
We
want
people
that
are
going
to
show
up
right.
Absolutely.
O
P
That's
why
I
suggest
maybe
a
hybrid
model
and
and
that
could
actually
replace
this
I'd
hate
for
the
work
to
slow
down
and
and
having
the
opportunity
to
get
citizen
input
right
away.
So
we
could
implement
this
and
then
give
us
a
month
to
come
back
with
with
a
hybrid,
where
we
have
a
chance
to
talk
about
how
that
representation
could
meet
all
the
needs
of
the
entire
community.
Councilman.
J
R
R
A
J
Be
one
of
our
topics
that
we
can
talk
about
specifically
this,
but
maybe
some
of
all
the
boards
and
commissions
and
get
some
recommendation
from
staff
of
what
they
see
the
use
of
some
of
these,
and
maybe
we
can
if
some
of
them
are
gonna,
be
eliminated.
Maybe
some
of
them
come
jump
on
some
different
boards
and
things
like
that,
but
I
think.
O
O
Very
educated
in
infrastructure
and
when
I
see
some
of
the
numbers
from
the
past,
you
know
there
was
a
ten-year
period
where
two
point
1
million
dollars
was
spent
and
closes
Creek.
So
you
know
and
I
see
you
know
some
of
the
projections
going
out.
You
know
a
few
years
once
the
bonds
are
called
in
and-
and
you
know
that's,
what's
that's.
What's
driving
the
request
for
aboard
a
city
city
council
appointment
is
to
make
sure
that
that
we
keep
this
moving
forward
and
that
we
have
the
dollars
we
find
the
dollars.
J
A
And
the
other
thing
Jenny
that
that
I
think
that
we
are
looking
at
differently
than
maybe
they
did
30
40
50
years
ago
or
more
when
a
lot
of
these
streets
and
roads
are
looking
we're
looking
at
how
their
place,
what
the
infrastructure
is
around
the
roads.
What
is
appropriate?
Some
of
these
areas
came
into
the
moines,
even
in
the
early
1900s,
when
they,
the
legislature,
decided
to
all
contiguous
communities.
A
M
A
O
I
P
B
M
A
J
O
O
A
A
N
People
who
were
all
on
the
SIPP,
Infrastructure,
Committee
and
then
volunteers
and
I
think
we
had
13
at
10:00
to
first
meeting
seven
at
10:00.
The
second
8
we're
at
the
last
one
mixed
representation,
because
two
of
the
wards
only
had
one.
These
are
all
people
who
care
about
this
and
I
would
not
like
to
see
them
eliminated
because.
N
We
have
an
engineer
or
two:
we
had
another
person
with
an
engineering
background,
someone
with
the
finance
background.
It
would
really
be
helpful
for
this
overall
thing,
because
the
finance
folks
is
going
to
be
the
big
issue
and
I
I
know
in
the
past.
I
have
real
confidence
in
this
group,
but
I
know.
In
the
past
there
have
been
people
who
said
this
is
not
a
priority.
N
We
have
to
fix
the
park,
so
we
have
I'm
sorry,
but
when
you've
gone
through
a
flood
twice
in
20
years
and
spent
a
lot
of
money
and
watched,
your
neighbors
and
your
friends
suffer,
it
is
a
priority
and
if
you
have
to
take
money
from
something
else,
you
take
it.
If
you
have
to
bond
you
bond-
and
that
is
a
decision
the
council
makes
so
I.
Think
that's
why
we
want
a
direct
line
to
the
council.
N
O
B
O
A
P
A
All
right,
we
need
to
move
directly
to
our
City
Council
agenda.
It's
503,
we'll
make
that
note
and
first
item
on
our
hearings
are
on
the
conveyance
of
excess,
city-owned
property
located
east
of
and
south
of
an
adjoining
2400
George
Flagg
Parkway
to
Groban
wine
LLC
doing
business
as
jeff
jasper
winery
for
fifty
three
thousand
three
hundred
dollars
council
communication
number
twenty
0
8!
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
to
speak
to
this
will
open
the
hearing.
A
Item
48
was
on
the
vacation
of
Freemont
Street
right-of-way
between
East
14th
and
East
15th
Street
in
East,
15th,
Street,
right
away
between
Freemont
Street
and
East
University
and
conveyance
to
the
Des
Moines
independent
Community,
School
District,
hey
is
the
first
consideration
and
the
ordens
above
and
B
as
the
final
consideration
of
the
ordinance
above.
The
waiver
is
requested
by
bill
good
to
see
oo
other
than
one
public
schools,
and
this
requires
six
votes
will
open
the
hearing.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
talk
about
the
vacation
of
Fremont,
Street
and
a
right
away.
A
Text
item
49,
which
is
on
correcting
the
vacation
of
portions
of
East,
4th
Street
Des
Moines
Street
East,
Fifth,
Street
right-of-way
adjoining
415
and
421
Des,
Moines
Street,
and
the
conveyance
of
a
corrected
permanent
easement
for
subsurface
building
encroachment
on
city-owned
property,
555
East
4th
parking
LLC
a
is
the
first
consideration,
the
ordinance
above.
Let's
open
up
the
hearing
on
this
one.
Anyone
here
to
speak
about
this
city-owned
property
to
the
555
East
4th
parking,
LLC
I,
see.
K
A
Item
50
an
approval,
a
license
agreement
with
Edmondson
Art
Foundation
Inc
doing
business
as
a
Des
Moines
Art
Center
as
follows:
is
a
display
and
maintenance
of
a
sculpture
and
fountain
at
Hanson
triangle,
one
under
that
as
a
termination
of
an
agreement
with
the
Edmondson
Art
Foundation
Inc,
doing
businesses
des
Moines,
Art
Center
and
the
Riverfront
Development
Authority
for
display
and
maintenance
of
the
quantum
leaf,
sculpture
and
fountain
at
Hanson
triangle.
Bees,
a
display
and
maintenance
of
a
sculpture
at
Long,
look
civic
gardens
one.
A
It's
a
termination
of
agreement
with
the
Riverfront
Development
Authority
and
Edmonson
Art
Foundation
in
business,
the
Des
Moines
Art
Center
for
the
installation,
maintenance
of
an
unnamed
Shapiro
sculpture
at
the
long
looks
civic
gardens.
Let's
go
ahead
and
open
up
the
hearing
on
these
items.
Is
there
anyone
here
to
speak
to
these
items,
seeing.
A
Item
51
is
ona,
promote,
proposed
amendments
to
improve
zoning
ordinance
in
Chapter
134
for
the
city
code
relating
to
lodging
and
short-term
a
commercial
rental
uses
as
the
first
consideration.
The
ordinance
above
B
is
the
first
consideration
in
the
ordinance
amending
sections,
60
19
and
60
35
relating
to
a
short-term
rental
inspections
as
council
communication
number
20,
0
8
1.
E
Yes,
mayor's
members
at
City,
Council,
Chris,
Johnson,
community
velopment
director.
Just
to
give
you
a
little
background.
What
kind
of
brought
us
to
this
evening
back
in
October,
16th
20:19?
The
city
did
pass
the
zoning
code
included
in
that
was
they
did
request
staff
to
come
back
with
amendments.
One
of
those
amendments
being
requested
was
on
the
short-term
rental,
so
through
some
public
meetings
through
the
sticker,
the
planning
zoning
commission
I'm
had
discussion
at
council
workshops.
Work
sessions-
we're
here
tonight
with
some
proposed
changes
so
just
bring
up
to
date.
E
One
clarification
I
do
want
to
make
on
the
blue
letter
just
there's
a
inconsistencies
with
what's
in
the
city,
what's
in
the
draft
code,
but
the
rental
party
must
have
at
least
one
person
that's
21
years
of
all,
that
is
in
the
draft
ordinance
and
that
blue
letter.
We
did
made
a
mistake
and
have
it
as
18.
That's
so
it
is
21.
E
Cannot
produce
sound
more
than
the
allowed
limits.
Guests
must
be
righted,
with
local
information,
parking
restrictions,
garbage
days
and
emergency
information
now
what's
being
proposed
as
I'm
just
gonna
recite.
What's
the
changes
from
those
items
that
were
just
listed,
we
did
remove
the
requirement
for
the
owner
to
reside
in
the
structure,
also
not
allow
more
than
one
short-term
rental
for
structure
that
was
added.
E
We
did
require
a
local
management
agent.
That
was
an
additional
thing.
We
did
add
and
required
the
use
approved
by
review
by
the
Board
of
Adjustment
after
10
years.
So
that
is
a
new
addition.
That's
being
proposed
as
well
item
B,
just
I
know
there
was
some
questions.
I
did
receive
on
item
B.
Just
so
there's
clarification
on
what
item
B
is
item
B
is
to
amend
the
chapter
60
of
the
city
code
with
requires
just
wasn't
online,
yet
okay,
rental
inspections.
E
E
E
Also
did
get
a
question
just
about
number
of
complaints
that
we
did
get
talking
with
Sue
and
Donovan
over
the
last
couple
years,
there's
probably
four
or
five
different
properties
that
we
have
received.
Complaints
on
that
incomplete
cludes,
the
one
I
know,
councilman
gray,
is
very
familiar
with
the
one
just
recently
that
we
received
on
Harwood
and
there's
two
or
three
other
properties
that
we
have
received.
Complaints
on
mostly
its
round
parking
complaints,
with
exception
to
the
one
we
did
have
in
Beaverdale
and.
E
Complaints
would
be
you
know,
enforced
by
our
staff.
Those
complaints
would
be
taken
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustment
for
their
review.
We
did.
We
are
in
the
deprived,
the
process
of
adding
to
the
cities
my
DSM
mobile,
to
the
app
to
be
able
to
make
complaints
through
that
app,
but
those
would
be
investigated
by
our
staff
and
then
taken
through
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustment
for
their
review.
So.
J
E
T
E
I
Chris
one
thing:
I
notice,
on
parking
restrictions.
One
of
the
things
I
brought
up
was
the
fact
that
they'd
have
to
give
what
you're
gonna
apply
for
one
you
have
to
give
the
license
plates
of
the
cars
is
going
to
be.
There
is
that
you
know
it
just
says:
parking
restrictions,
so
I'm,
hoping
that
it's
in
there
that's.
E
J
R
The
question
about
the
local
management
agent-
that's
not
particularly
well
defined.
Okay,
so
hey!
You
know.
A
number
of
these
short-term
rentals
come
up
because
I,
you
know
it's
someone's
elderly
parents,
who've
passed
away
and
the
three
siblings
decided
to
keep
the
house
two
of
the
siblings
live
out
of
town.
A
third
one
mate,
maybe
lives
in
town
they're
listed
as
the
agent,
but
they
don't
really
do
anything
to
manage.
Does
that
qualify
as
a
local
management
agent?
Or
are
we
saying
that
this
is
meant
to
be
a
professional
I?
Don't.
E
R
P
P
B
P
J
A
M
Want
to
know,
because
now
we
possibly
four
hundred
that
or
how
many
we
have
they're
gonna-
have
to
go
to
a
Board
of
Adjustment
and
inspecting
them
yearly.
What
type
of
mechanism
do
we
have
from
the
city
in
place
to
ensure
that
we
can
even
do
that
when
we
have
trouble
inspecting
the
rental
ones?
Is
it
going
to
be
a
full-time
person?
You're
gonna
have
to
add
a
person.
What
is
our
structure?
Have
we
set
it
out?
What's
the
fee
structure,
to
compensate
to
carry
over
to
help
pay
for
all
of
this?
M
So
that
would
be
one
of
my
concerns
and
I.
Don't
see
any
of
that
in
this
any
documentation
on
that,
because
to
me
we
we
already
have
everybody
operating
what
not
under
any
guidelines
and
basically
illegal.
So
now
we're
gonna
convert
over
and
to
me
four
hundred
operations,
all
at
once
like
this
we're
to
be
in
compliance
and
will
they
be
in
compliance
and
then
do
you
find
out
afterwards
that
they're,
not
you
know
all
of
a
sudden
something
pops
up
and
somebody
hears
somebody's
going
to
be
an
Airbnb
or
I
chart
short-term
rentals.
B
B
M
T
U
M
M
P
P
T
E
T
R
P
Would
first
say
we
don't
because
the
responsibility
for
classifications
of
property
is
on
the
county
side,
but
you
still
have
a
great
question
that
I'll
have
to
get
an
answer
back
to
you
is
if
the
property
is
100
percent
for
Airbnb
used
I,
don't
know
that
they've
addressed
it
at
the
county
level.
Yet
so
I
will
have
that
conversation
with
the.
A
J
P
There
are
exceptions
if
the
owner
is
still
living
there,
so
I
think
you're
right
that
a
owner-occupied,
Airbnb
I'm,
pretty
sure,
would
still
rental.
Thank
you.
Short-Term
rental
would
would
still
qualify
as
a
residential
property.
However,
I
will
ask
about
a
non-owner
occupied
short-term
rental
and
whether
that
shouldn't
be
classified
as
it's
a
commercial.
That's
that's
a
good
question.
A
The
other
thing
that
that
I've
gotten
a
couple
of
questions
on
from
neighbors
has
to
do
with
neighborhoods
and
how
many,
and
how
close
together
of
these
would
we
allow
I
mean
within
500
or
700
feet?
There
are
a
thousand
feet.
We
only
have
one
or
two
I
mean,
or
we
can
allow
anybody
that
wants
to
do
this,
to
get
them
business
and
everybody's
in
Airbnb
or
short.
E
P
W
A
M
J
So,
deep,
typically
at
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
your
department
gives
writes
up
a
recommendation.
I
understand
the
Board
of
Adjustment
might
not
take
that
all
that
yep.
But
if
you,
if
you're
gonna,
have
a
list
of
all
these
houses
in
the
neighborhood
and
like
the
mayor
said,
you
know
if
we
see
an
entire
neighborhood
turning
in
debt,
I
would
think
that
we
would
give
the
recommendation
to
deny
the
the
short-term
rental
in
that
area.
Correct.
J
E
R
There's
nothing
in
the
ordinance
requires
that
right,
no,
and
so,
if
someone
had
a
different
interpretation
of
the
ordinance
who
come
after
you
and
yeah
or
someone
on
your
staff
who's,
not
here,
yep,
there's
nothing
that
requires
them
to
address
density
and
the
recommendation
that
they
make
as
it
as
right
as
it
as
it
exists
today.
Just.
E
For
clarification,
I
know
from
the
some
of
the
neighborhood
groups.
We
have
heard
that
you
know
within
you
know:
600
feet
there
shouldn't
be
more
than
one
with
every
600
feet,
750
feet
whatever
the
number
is,
but
that
there's
nothing
in
in
here.
That
says
that
you
know,
but
that's
that's
kind
of
what
I
know.
We've
heard
publicly
too.
A
X
A
Y
A
AA
Z
You
asked
about
the
cost:
there
would
be
the
rental
inspections
per
year
per
our
understanding
and
then
speaking
with
Sue
Ann
there's
also
the
conditional
use
permit,
which
starts
around
$350
and
then
based
on
how
many
individuals
are
within
250
feet.
The
postcard
process
can
increase
the
amount
just
due
to
those
fees.
A
A
What
do
you
think
three
minutes?
Okay,
yeah.
We
really
appreciate
everybody's
input
on
this.
This
is
a
really
important
discussion.
However,
I
would
ask
that
if
you
know
some
of
the
points
that
are
being
made,
that
we
don't
repeat
them
all
that
we
kind
of
you
know,
let's,
let's
make
a
good
list
and
and
see
how
many
ideas
that
we
get
if
you'll
step
forward.
Sir,
give
us
your
name
and
address
Scott.
AB
Bukowski
3708
Davis
and
Road
des
moines.
My
backyard
went
up
against
the
B,
the
short-term
rental
over
on
38th
Street.
This
was
about
five
years
ago.
I'll
quickly
go
through
it.
It
sounds
like
you're,
relatively
familiar
with
it,
bonfire
it's
ten
feet
high
under
ten
unintended
or
unattended
children
out
at
all
hours
running
through
yards,
going
down
snow
into
our
yards,
and
if
those
children
had
been
injured,
we
would
have
been
liable,
knocking
on
neighbors
doors.
At
all
hours
of
the
night.
AB
You
talked
about
parking
when,
when
neighbors
asked
to
ask
them
to
move
their
cars,
they
were
threatened
with
physical
violence.
Loud
parties,
public
intoxication
owner
did
not
stay
there.
You
had
asked
them
to
stay
there,
but
he
never
stayed
there
and
then
when,
finally,
it
was
brought
to
you
and
he
admitted
he
didn't
stay
there.
There
were
still
lawyers
involved.
Part
of
our
concern
is
you're.
Gonna
spend
a
lot
of
money
on
legal
fees,
because
these
people
are
going
to
put
things
down.
Then
they'll
bring
lawyers
in.
AB
AB
All
of
these
issues
became
real
became
dangerous
over
time,
not
only
from
violence,
but
also
from
fire
damage.
There
were
as
many
by
his
own
admittance
here
in
this
meeting.
He
admitted
that
there
were
at
least
20
occupants
in
a
room
that
should
not
have
had
more
than
four
to
six.
That's
going
to
be
an
ongoing
thing,
as
you've
already
talked
about
this
evening.
I
I
AC
I
just
got
a
3-year
permit
for
my
apartments.
So
my
point
is:
is
that
even
when
you
have
people
coming
and
going
and
they
don't
have
to
be
inspected
because
gonna
be
so
many
different
people
living
in
that
and
that
property
staying
at
time
to
time,
whether
it's
six
months,
two
months
whatever
it
is?
It's
not
a
normal
tenant.
You're
gonna
have
a
lot
of
windows
that
are
cracked.
They
don't
pass
inspection.
Every
item
that
doesn't
pass
inspection
gets
another
year
knocked
off
of
your
annual
inspection
fee
so
like.
AC
If
you
don't
even
have
a
battery
working
in
your
fire
smoke
detector-
and
you
don't
have
the
battery
with
you
that
moment
with
your
inspector
there
I'm
present
of
your
property,
then
that's
one
violation
that
you
will
have.
So
it
brings
you
down
to
only
a
two
year
inspection.
So
you
see
what
I'm
saying
these
homes
are.
AC
X
But
it
shouldn't
be
my
responsibility
to
have
to
police
these
places.
The
landlord
is
I,
don't
know
where
she
is
not
in
the
neighborhood,
certainly
aren't
living
in
the
house
or
anyone
of
area,
their
rental
properties.
On
my
street
there's
three
of
them
within
probably
a
hundred
yard
circle,
I,
don't
know
where
they
are
anyhow
illegal.
X
X
Out
any
no
I
don't
know
what
the
solution
is
here,
as
I
say:
I'm
disappointed
to
find
out
that
it
is
been
their
operating
illegally
and
nobody
told
us
about
it
until
the
neighbors
started,
putting
two
and
two
together.
Anyhow
that
describes
in
fact
that
the
property
description
one
says
that
it
will
accommodate
ten
people
will
stuff,
and
ten
people
in
that
house
is
problematic
too.
It
encourages
you
to
bring
your
dog
because
there's
a
big
backyard
you
can
dog
and
run
free
in
the
neighbors.
Won't
complain.
X
Well,
the
neighbors
can't
complain
because
they
don't
know
how
to
complain
to
I.
Don't
like
it
I,
don't
know
whether
if
this
all
falls
flat
were
that
we're
gonna
have
to
seek
some
injunctive
relief
or
I
hate.
To
put
it
that
way,
but
I
don't
know
what
else
to
do
if
I'm
not
saying
you're
going
to
fail
us,
but
it's
we're
fighting
a
pretty
big
opposition
here.
X
Anyhow,
I'm
closing
I'd
like
to
remind
some
of
you
on
this
board,
may
remember:
Meyer
Hall
wanted
to
move
the
juvenile
detention
center
for
Meyer
Hall
over
on
11,
who
wanted
to
move
it
to
just
east
of
broad
ones.
Well,
Chautauqua
Park
got
all
up
in
arms
because
we
didn't
want
a
kids
prison
across
the
street
from
Chautauqua
Park.
Well,
I
went
to
one
of
the
whole
Avenue
neighborhood
meetings
turns
out.
They
didn't
want
the
prison
to
go
because
part
of
its
kind
of
a
shady
county
land
deal
swamp.
X
They
were
going
to
swap
the
land
to
put
the
broad
once
kids
prison
on,
so
that
a
developer
could
move
in
to
the
land
that
sits
under
Meyer
Hall
right
now
and
put
a
honking
great
big
apartment,
complex.
Well,
those
people
over
there
opposed
the
move
because
they
didn't
want
to
lose
the
relative
tranquility
and
control
of
the
Meyer
Hall
and
we
didn't
want.
They
didn't
want
it
because
they
didn't
want
to
be
apartment.
L
L
A
L
Hopefully,
you
can
see
that
so
before
I
start
I
want
to
say
and
and
I
was
on
record
of
this
in
early
January,
that
our
board
of
directors
is
not
opposed
to
Airbnb
ease.
We
think
that
they
can
fit
within
a
neighborhood.
However,
we
sort
of
are
opposed
to
this
ordinance.
That
I,
don't
think,
has
the
neighborhood
interest
first
and
foremost,
what
I'm
showing
here
you
here
on
the
left
is,
and
this
is
from
a
source,
it's
called
err.
L
Dna
represents
Airbnb
ease,
BRB
OS
in
the
Des
Moines
area,
the
blue
dots
represent
houses
that
are
partially
rented
out.
The
purple
dots
represent
entire
buildings
and
I
know.
We've
heard
four
hundred
today,
I'm
showing
294
on
this
website.
Don't
know
how
accurate
it
is,
but
you
can
see
there's
a
pretty
big
cluster
and
this
has
all
been
done.
I
mean
this
is
this
has
proliferated
illegally,
essentially
because
there
hasn't
been
anything
on
the
books
since
December
or
September,
and
then
on
the
right.
You
have
my
neighborhood,
which
is
Sherman
Hill.
L
Well,
it's
five
one,
three,
four:
five:
zero.
Three
one:
four
zip
code:
the
bottom
left
there
is
Sherman
Hill
neighborhood.
You
can
start
it
start
to
see
things
clustering
there
as
well
and
and
we're
very
concerned
about
how
this
might
impact
the
character
and
the
integrity
of
our
historical
neighborhood
long
term.
We've
spent
the
better
part
of
40
years
trying
to
take
our
single-family
housing
stock
back
from
high
density
to
low
density.
I
think
we've
come
a
long
way,
unfortunately,
I
think
by
allowing
allowing
non-owner
occupied
short
term
rentals
in
our
neighborhood.
L
L
This
is
actually
a
duplex,
so
if
you
split
it
down
the
middle
there's
three
bedrooms,
three
baths
and
once
I
had
three
bedrooms:
three
baths
on
the
other
and
I
rented
out
a
long
term
basis
get
inspected
once
every
two
to
two-and-a-half
years
right
now,
I'm
charging
$1,800
per
month,
I
have
three
or
four
persons
per
side.
That's
about
450
to
600
dollars
a
person
in
rent,
which
I
think
is
a
very
fair
rental
in
in
my
neighborhood,
and
it
must
be
because
I've
been
able
to
attract
renters
longer-term.
L
If
I
were
to
convert
this
to
an
air
B&B
which
I
think
it
would
be
a
good
candidate.
A
very
good
candidate
I
could
probably
get
68.
People
on
one
side
coming
in
I
could
probably
charge
300
a
day.
That's
gonna
amount
to
$3,600
compare
1800
to
3600
overnight,
I've
increased
my
rents
by
a
hundred
percent.
If
I
went
to
my
current
tenants
right
now
and
said
sorry
guys,
I
got
to
increase
your
rent
by
a
hundred
percent.
You
know,
if
you
don't
do
that.
L
I'm
gonna
go
elsewhere,
they're
gonna,
walk,
we're
gonna,
lose
a
lot
of
long-term
renters
in
our
neighborhood
and
that's
important
because
these
people
oftentimes
end
up
buying
in
our
neighborhood
I.
Put
some
other
impacts
down
here.
I
think
it's
going
to
decrease
our
affordable
housing
as
I
just
mentioned
density
is
going
to
increase.
If
I
go
from
three
to
four
people
to
six
to
eight,
it's
our
neighborhoods
gonna
feel
less
like
a
neighborhood
I'm,
only
assuming
a
50%
occupancy
rate
in
this.
L
So
half
the
time
this
building
is
gonna,
be
sitting
empty
because
no
one's
gonna
be
in
there.
There's
gonna
be
less
families
going
to
our
local
schools
and
I.
Don't
think,
we've
really
studied
that
impact.
You
know
we
have
15
to
20
houses
in
Sherman
Hill
that
don't
have
families
I
know
who
goes
to
our
local
schools
and
again
I.
L
Think
there's
a
lot
that
needs
to
be
studied
here,
I'm
very
concerned
about
the
pleura
for
Asian
of
this,
and
if
we
can
keep
an
owner-occupied
in
the
ordinance,
at
least
for
Sherman
Hill
or
for
local
national
historic
districts,
I
think
that's
very
important.
It
may
not
be
a
one-size-fits-all,
maybe
other
neighborhoods
need
different
things,
but
for
Sherman
Hill
we
think
that's
the
best
path
forward.
Thank
you.
AD
We
invested
a
lot
in
our
home
and
in
the
neighborhood,
and
we
wanted
to
be
in
this
neighborhood
because
for
us
it
was
an
ideal
in
neighborhood
I
looked
up
and
there
is
now
an
air
B&B
across
the
street
from
me
that
list
of
sleeping
capacity
is
10,
which
means
there's
a
potential
for
up
over
3500
new
people
moving
in
and
out
of
that
neighborhood
during
a
calendar
year
and
I.
Don't
necessarily
believe
that
it
would
be
full
to
capacity
every
day,
but
the
possibility
is
still
there.
AD
It's
already
been
addressed
tonight
to
the
council
about
the
idea
of
the
density
in
with
the
Airbnb
ease
or
the
short
term
rentals
in
any
neighborhood,
and
it
really
felt
to
me
like
there
was
no
real,
clear
answer
on
that
at
this
point.
One
of
the
concerns
that
I
have
emerge
from
my
thinking
about
neighborhood,
short-term
rental
business
was
the
question
related
to
the
monitoring
of
registered
sex
offenders,
who
may
choose
to
rent
at
locations
that
otherwise
would
be
restricted
related
to
the
proximity
to
schools.
AD
AD
Another
concern
that's
already
been
addressed
tonight
is
the
registering
inspecting
and
monitoring
of
a
specific
Airbnb
or
short-term
businesses
around
the
city.
I
think
the
idea
of
a
10-year
permit
transferable
to
new
owners
is
too
long
of
a
period
of
time.
My
suggestion
would
be
to
lower
this
period
of
one
or
two
years
with
no
transfers
to
new
owners
of
a
new
property
owner
wishes
to
continue
operating
a
short
term
business.
AD
They
should
apply
as
a
new
business
owner,
and
my
proposal
would
be
that,
if
there's
not
enough
money
or
inspectors
to
do
this,
that
I
would
suggest
that
we
charged
the
short-term
rental
like
Airbnb
or
the
people
renting
their
for
covering
the
additional
cost
of
the
city.
I'm,
really
not
anti-business
I've
stayed
in
bed
and
breakfasts,
never
an
air
B&B,
but
have
heard
great
things
about
them,
but
I
purchased
a
house
in
a
neighborhood,
zoned
residential
and
now
there's
a
business
similar
to
a
motel
operating
across
the
street.
AD
In
closing,
it
feels
like
this
Airbnb
train
is
moving
quickly
down
the
track
and
gaining
speed,
and
it
also
feels
to
me
like
we
just
don't
yet
have
this
right.
I'm,
not
sure,
there's
been
enough
time
and
opportunity
to
discuss
the
practices
and
procedures
that
will
impact
existing
residential
neighborhoods
throughout
Des
Moines
I
urge
this
council
to
slow
down
and
continue
seeking
a
common
ground
related
to
allowing
businesses
in
residential
neighborhoods
in
Des,
Moines
I
do
appreciate
the
fact
that
you
are
willing
to
tackle
this
complex
issue
related
to
integrating
businesses
into
established
residential
neighborhoods.
AD
Finally,
it's
my
understanding
that
at
least
one
council
member
has
stated
related
to
comparing
rental
properties
with
Airbnb
is
that
a
rental
is
just
a
rental,
and
if
anyone
on
this
council
believes
that
I
would
ask
that
we
strongly
consider
not
being
a
part
of
the
discussion
or
the
vote
on
this
if
you
own
property
rental
property
and
are
operated
here
in
Des
Moines.
Thank
you
for
this
opportunity
to
share
some
of
my
concerns.
AA
I'm
Carly
Hamilton
I
lived
at
678,
45th,
Street
and
I
do
appreciate
the
city's
consideration
of
the
short-term
rental
situation.
I.
Ask
that
you
look
at
the
needs
of
the
neighborhoods
and
the
needs
of
long-term
renters
and
of
homeowners
that
would
like
to
live
and
work
in
des
moines.
There
has
to
be
a
balance
in
the
regulations,
as
I
feel
that
the
new
ones
are
tipped
in
favor
of
the
short-term
rental
owners.
AA
The
proposed
amendment
says
that
it
will
be
10
years
from
the
time
a
short-term
rental
permit
is
granted
until
the
city
reviews
that
permit
again,
how
did
the
city
arrive
at
10
years?
What's
the
basis
of
this
that
has
not
been
answered.
Ten
years
creates
a
hardship
for
neighbors
who
may
be
experiencing
a
poorly
run
short-term
rental
near
them.
AA
It's
a
big
hardship
for
long-term
renters
because
it
limits
the
availability
of
places
to
live,
and
it's
a
hardship
for
those
who
want
to
purchase
a
home
but
find
that
the
areas
of
the
city
where
they
want
to
live
are
also
popular
areas
for
short-term
rentals.
A
short-term
rental
may
impact
a
homeowner
wanting
to
sell
their
house
or
someone
looking
to
buy
it
think
about
how
many
of
you
would
want
to
live
close
to
whole
houses
that
are
short-term
rentals
without
an
owner
present
with
the
proximity
of
these
effect.
AA
The
sale
of
your
home
with
the
people
hoping
to
buy
really
want
to
live
in
a
neighborhood
that
has
no
neighbors.
The
proposed
regulations
do
not
provide
any
density
restrictions
for
residential
neighborhoods
and
without
such
a
density
restriction.
Desirable
areas
of
town
can
turn
into
a
mass
of
whole
house
no
owner
present
church
home
rentals
for
a
very
long
time.
In
many
cities,
hotels
are
located
close
together
where
it's
convenient
for
guests
to
arrive,
stay
and
see
the
sights.
AA
Perhaps
those
of
you
who
have
stayed
in
there
in
an
air
B&B
would
say
you
found
it
to
be
a
very
pleasant
experience,
but
staying
in
one
and
living
near
one
are
vastly
different
experiences:
three
illegal
Airbnb
czar
within
two
and
a
half
blocks
of
my
home
once
they're
legal.
How
many
more
will
appear
healthy,
neighborhoods
are
so
important
to
Des,
Moines
I
hope,
members
of
the
Des
Moines
City
Council
will
consider
having
owner
occupancy
in
place
and
regulations
pertaining
to
density
and
parking
issues.
AA
AE
B
AE
Diane
Graham
at
635,
46th,
Street
and
I
do
want
to
thank
you
for
stepping
up
to
regulate
a
really
complex
business.
I
also
want
to
say
that
I
know
there
are
Airbnb
owners
that
I'm
sure
you'll
hear
from
tonight
and
in
September
who
are
really
trying
to
do
things
the
right
way,
but
there
are
also
good
neighbors
who
deserve
the
right
protections
and
I.
AE
Just
don't
think
this
ordinance
is
fair
enough
to
neighbors,
yet
neighborhoods
need
and
deserve
more
limits
on
how
these
businesses-
and
that
is
what
they
are,
businesses
will
operate
and
we
would
rather,
they
not
operate
in
residentially
zoned
areas
at
all,
and
others
will
speak
to
what
that
does
to
quality
of
life
issues.
But
I
want
to
also
touch
on
the
financial
aspect
that
Carly
mentioned.
Airbnb
owners
have
spoken
up
passionately
about
how
they
would
be
hurt
financially
if
the
first
ordinance
is
left
standing.
AE
But
how
about
homeowners
like
me
for
most
of
us,
our
home,
is
our
largest
single
investment
and
a
real
estate
agent,
who
wrote
in
a
realtor
magazine
bluntly,
stated
that
a
single-family,
home
or
condo
will
have
a
harder
time.
Selling
I
can
spec
and
expect
lower
offers
when
there's
a
short-term
rental
next
door.
You
never
know
what
your
neighbors
could,
who
your
neighbors
could
be.
AE
She
wrote
and
that's
a
classic
situation
of
property
stigma
and
if
Des
Moines
does
proceed
to
allow
short-term,
rentals
and
residential
zoning
right
now,
we,
as
you
know,
we
have
no
density
limits.
We
feel
like.
We
have
no
limits.
Ronde
is
pretty
per
year
on
density
and,
of
course,
the
owners
aren't
required
to
be
there.
AE
The
fact
is:
lots
of
cities
have
enacted
total
bans
on
absent
owner
short-term
rentals,
even
San
Francisco,
where
Airbnb
began
the
list
that
I
found
includes
Denver
Oklahoma,
City,
Los,
Angeles,
Miami,
Beach,
Charleston,
Colorado,
Springs,
Baltimore,
Orlando,
New,
York,
Boulder
Madison.
It
is
not
rare
and
if
a
city
does
allow
absent
owner
short-term
rentals,
they
are
often
banned
from
residentially
zoned
areas
and
Nashville
would
be
an
example
of
that.
It's
because
they
know
when
the
owners
aren't
home,
as
the
earlier
speaker
mentioned.
AE
That's
when
the
problems
start
to
multiply
so
we're
pleased
that
you're
doing
this
double
layering
of
permits,
the
rental
and
the
conditional
use,
as
well
as
the
requirement
to
notify
neighbors.
But,
as
you
begin
to
enforce
this
for
the
first
time,
I
really
think
it
would
be
important
to
follow
the
lead
of
about
a
dozen
other
cities.
I
found
and
offer
a
one-year
conditional
use
permit
and
see
how
it
goes,
and
next
year
you
can
revisit
it
and
maybe
make
it
longer.
AE
AE
I
cannot
see
where
stakeholders
from
neighborhoods
were
involved
in
any
meaningful
way,
as
those
changes
were
being
drafted
and
at
the
neighborhood
meetings
we've
been
to
and
we've
been
to
quite
a
few,
most
people
were
totally
in
the
dark,
including
most
of
the
Association
presidents,
so
I
hope
by
the
end
of
evening
here
you've
heard
a
lot
of
ideas
for
protecting
neighborhoods
I
will
throw
out
just
a
couple.
More
Detroit
proposes
a
thousand-foot
separation
to
help
control
density,
and
they
have
a
very
elaborate
description
of
how
they
came
up
with
that
measurement.
AE
Chicago
has
two
unique
features
that
include
the
power
to
petition
for
a
restricted
residential
zone,
as
well
as
to
place
a
property
on
a
banned
building
list.
If
we
look
more
closely
at
ideas
like
this,
maybe
we
can
protect
the
integrity
of
neighborhoods,
but
still
allow
short-term
rentals
in
areas
that
want
them
and
in
areas
where
the
zoning
is
designed
for
it.
So
I
respectfully
ask
you
to
delay
the
vote
and
consider
how
to
better,
protect
the
neighborhoods
or
vote
no
on
these
amendments
as
they
stand.
Thank
you.
S
S
So
I
have
the
cars
going
up
and
down
the
driveway
I
have
those
are
for
the
hotel
suite
in
the
basement
of
the
house,
the
people
renting
rooms
upstairs
in
the
house
or
parked
in
front
of
my
house
all
the
time
they're
coming
and
going.
That
is
this.
Is
this
winter,
where
I
didn't
have
a
place
to
put
my
garbage
cans
and
at
one
time
the
snow
ordinance
was
ignored
by
a
big
pickup
truck.
S
So
we
had
a
mess
out
front
but
I,
don't
know
what
you're
going
to
do
about
it,
but
the
integrity
of
the
neighborhoods
I
think
is
extremely
important
and
I.
Think
that
was
a
huge
issue
in
the
last
city
elections,
the
accusations,
true
or
false,
fair
or
unfair,
that
the
city
ignored
the
neighborhoods
and
their
needs
and
their
desires
and
their
wishes
and
their
integrity,
and
so
I
hope.
If
you
move
forward,
you
are
very
careful
on
how
you
finish
up
this
ordinance.
Thank
you.
AF
K
C
AF
Lila
Dozier
I
live
in
Woodland
Heights
at
741,
27th,
Street
and
I'm,
not
going
to
speak
to
some
of
the
issues
that
you
have
already
heard
about,
and
others
that
you
are
contemplating
this
subject
matter
that
I'd
like
to
talk
about
is
not
even
come
up
yet
and
I
hope
that
you'll
do
your
research
and
really
look
into
the
problem.
A
lot
of
you
know
when
we
were
successful
in
getting
our
revitalization
plan
together
in
1991
for
Woodland
Heights.
AF
We
were
one
point
from
distressed,
not
that
our
homes
were
in
that
bad
of
shape
they
weren't.
When
I
moved
there.
There
were
seven
burned
out
houses,
Chamberlin
parks,
it's
where
one
of
those
burned
out
houses
sand.
There
was
hardly
a
street
that
didn't
have
a
burned-out
house.
Now
we
are
not
firebugs
and
Woodland.
Heights
I
asked
a
city
staff
person.
AF
AF
AF
Why
smoking
on
the
barbecue
in
the
deck
I
read
about
fences
going
up,
there's
a
lot
of
fires,
so
I'm
concerned
it
took
us
30
years
to
get
in
fill
houses
back
where
the
taxpayers
paid
for
these
burned-out
houses
to
be
taken
down,
but
we
had
32
vacant
lands
when
I
moved
there,
I
don't
know
how
many
were
burned
out,
but
the
taxpayers
paid
for
it.
I
care
about
that
and
I.
B
AF
AF
Otherwise,
you're
gonna
end
up
with
houses
that
are
burned
out
and
sitting
there.
I
know
of
one
of
them
where
I
do
know
the
story,
and
he
was
illegally
running
the
upstate
because
of
that
the
insurance
company
would
not
pay
off
because
he
had
a
simple
homeowners
insurance.
Homeowners
insurance
will
not
cover
short-term
rentals.
AF
If
you
have
an
addendum
added
to
your
insurance
policy,
those
for
the
most
part,
all
insurance
home
insurance
companies
will
let
let
you
add,
an
addendum
that
you
pay
more
for,
but
they
usually
limit
you
to
60
days
of
rental,
otherwise
buy
a
commercial
landlord,
insurance
or
you'll
be
looking
at
a
Burnout.
I.
AF
Don't
want
this
to
happen,
but
if
you
read
on
the
internet
of
all
the
fires
that
are
happening
in
these
types
of
situation,
there's
hundreds
and
hundreds
and
I
cannot
believe
that
your
ordinance
would
say
anything
close
to
just
turn
in
whose
hosts
you
know
hosting
make
sure
it's
a
commercial
landlord,
insurance
and
who's
gonna
be
reading
all
these
insurance
policies,
I
asked
Burt.
Are
you
gonna
be
reading
those?
He
said?
No
probably
said
illegal.
This
is
sick
and
we
were
really
hurting
our
time
and
effort
of
all
city
staff.
H
H
H
Secondly,
I'm
concerned
about
staffing,
I,
think
the
city
staff,
and
especially
the
Des
Moines
police
department,
try
to
do
the
best
job
they
possibly
can,
but
who's
going
to
call
an
answer
complain
at
ten
o'clock
at
night
or
midnight.
We
don't
want
to
call
our
councilmen
that
evening
and
the
police
department
I'm
sure
have
a
lot
more
to
do
than
a
complaint
with
an
air,
B&B
tenant
and
so
I
think.
H
That
does
not
make
any
money
in
this
deal
and
that's
the
adjacent
homeowner
it
could
cost
them.
I,
don't
know,
but
I
think
it's
worth
evaluating
and
I
think
the
10-year
rule
with
Board
of
Adjustment
there
I
mentioned
the
Board
of
Adjustment,
is
very
busy
group
if
they
have
to
follow
this
proposal,
but
I
think
that
needs
to
be
looked
at.
I'm,
not
I,
don't
have
whether
it
should
be
Board
of
Adjustment.
I
know
it's
the
zoning
issue,
but
you
think
it
ten
years
is
way
too
long.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
Z
Danielle
rocker
714
53rd,
Street,
Thank
You
council
members
for
hearing
our
comments
previously,
when
I
stood
before
these
public
forums.
I
spoke
to
the
value
of
short-term
rentals,
seeking
to
bring
awareness
to
the
facts
rather
than
the
media's
dramatization
of
issues
that
today,
I'll
assume
you've
heard
as
much
as
you
ever
thought
imaginable
about
short-term
rentals
and
if
you
need
any
any
clarifications,
I'm
happy
to
help
you.
What
I
would
like
you
to
do
is
urging
forward
with
this
proposal.
Z
Sue
Ann
and
the
Zoning
Commission
have
worked
very
hard
to
find
a
solution
that
meets
in
the
middle
at
the
median
on
October
7th.
We
listen
to
citizens
concern
about
a
large
single-family
home
on
air
bean
bag
on
her
wood
that
was
destroying
their
neighborhood
with
trash
disturbances
and
illegal
parking.
Most
of
us
host
asked
for
more
details
to
track
down
this
owner.
We'd
made
a
promise
to
the
city
to
the
council
that
we
strive
to
be
good
hosts
and
we
were
frustrated
that
some
hosts
would
let
this
happen.
Z
Those
of
us
host
took
action
to
find
out
more
that
very
evening.
We
drove
by
this
offending
property
and
much
to
our
surprise,
there
was
no
trash,
no
disturbances
and
the
only
parking
nearby
was
an
illegally
parked
student
with
a
Roosevelt
bumper
sticker.
We
question:
why
would
a
neighbor
say
something
like
this
when
it
appeared
untrue,
even
stranger,
when
we
found
that
many
of
them
lived
many
houses
away?
That
was
the
first
sign.
This
was
not
about
short-term
rentals.
This
was
about
a
resistance
to
change
a
resistance
to
diversity.
Z
This
theory
was
supported
after
seeing
days
and
days
of
photo
of
evidence,
multiple
photos
per
day,
showing
no
issues
from
this
offending
home.
When
the
individuals
complaining
were
asked
what
issues
remained
and
how
we
could
help,
we
were
told
that
that
was
for
the
city
to
handle
the
same
concerns
have
been
voiced
a
number
of
times
this
night
tonight
from
the
same
neighborhood.
A
delay
in
the
hearing
was
requested
for
the
proposed
amendment
to
educate
neighborhoods,
so
that
they
could
be
better
informed.
Z
However,
this
time
has
been
used
as
a
campaign
of
misinformation,
but
attempting
to
do
away
with
rentals
I
intended
many
public
association
meetings
where
the
information
shared
was
very
little
facts
and
mostly
dramatized.
You
would
have
thought
that
all
were
terrible
disruptions
and
300
locations
yeah.
As
we
discussed
earlier,
we've
only
had
about
four
complaints,
so
Ann
and
the
Zoning
Commission
have
worked
very
hard
to
find
a
meet
in
the
middle
solution.
This
proposal
allows
neighbor
input
and
oversight
to
the
appropriateness
of
a
short-term
rental
in
the
neighborhood.
Z
The
entire
city
zoning
structure
was
changed
during
the
same
time
period
as
the
short-term
rental
discussion.
Neighborhoods
have
had
ample
time
to
get
involved.
Please
vote
to
move
forward
with
this
proposal
and
the
miss
information
and
resume
your
ability
as
a
council,
to
focus
on
real
community
problems
as
I'm
sure
you
would
love
to.
Thank
you.
AG
Hi
I'm
Kim
Hanson
2100,
Olive
Avenue.
This
is
not
a
new
concept.
Decades
ago
travelers
stayed
at
boarding
houses
all
the
time
a
home
can
be
comfortable
and
accommodating
to
families.
Staying
at
home
can
make
visitors
feel
an
instant
part
of
a
community
ultimate
enhancing
they're
a
Des
Moines
experience.
Creating
personal
connections
with
these
visitors
will
likely
increase
the
potential
of
return
visitors
to
our
city.
At
a
time
when
multiple
generations
of
family
are
again
living
under
one
roof.
AG
It
is
no
surprise
that
the
demand
for
affordable,
shared
economic,
economic
lodging
would
also
be
making
a
comeback.
You
are
inviting
someone
into
your
home
or
an
extension
of
it,
whether
you
are
there
or
not,
which
makes
them
feel
as
though
they
are
in
their
own
home.
There's
no
corporate
stay
that
will
ever
duplicate
that
feeling.
In
my
experience,
when
someone's
staying
in
your
home,
it
creates
a
personal
connection,
helping
to
drastically
reduce
the
potential
issues
and
concerns.
AG
AG
We
would
not
have
otherwise
been
able
to
have
without
the
short-term
housing
option
and
the
amenities
it
provided
us
by
having
alternative,
affording
affordable
lodging
options
mean
many
more
people
coming
to
Des
Moines
and
taking
in
all
that
it
has
to
offer
our
short-term
rental
is
located
directly
next
to
our
primary
residence.
We
live
in
a
dead-end
street
with
limited
houses,
so
there's
almost
no
possibility
of
a
wrong
address
issue
and
our
home
has
a
driveway
for
plenty
of
off
street
parking
as
part
of
our
host
amenities.
AG
We
recommend
local
retail
restaurants,
entertainment,
which
all
goes
towards
reinvesting
into
our
local
economy.
We
go
through
a
thorough
vetting
process
with
our
guests
to
help
ensure
that
we
aren't
renting
to
undesirables.
So
please
don't
lump
some
all
short
term
rental
hosts
into
one
assumption.
I
am
willing
to
live
next
door
to
a
short-term
rental.
AG
We
don't
make
one
our
short-term
rental
to
clash
with
our
existing
neighborhood,
but
instead
to
showcase
all
that
it
has
to
offer
it
isn't
just
a
business
to
us.
It's
a
very
personal
way
of
our
being
able
to
share
all
that.
We
love
about
Des
Moines
with
our
guests.
The
cost
of
maintaining
a
home
is
expensive,
renting
out.
AG
Our
second
home
is
a
short-term
rental
versus
a
traditional
rental
can
potentially
generate
two
times
the
monthly
income,
allowing
us
to
do
a
full
rehab
of
the
house,
resulting
in
the
assessed
value
increasing,
which
that
brings
more
revenue,
tax
revenue
to
our
city.
Some
concerns
have
been
raised
about
gas
taking
up
street
parking
where
no
off
street
parking
is
available
in
every
growing
city
and
urban
neighborhoods
parking
is
a
premium.
AG
The
parking
in
downtown
Des
Moines
has
drastically
changed
over
the
last
few
years,
with
evenings
and
weekends
being
free
before
and
now
not
anymore.
So,
even
if
a
property
was
rented
out
to
a
long-term
rental
would
still
face
the
parking
issues
that
those
long-term
rental
tenants
would
bring.
Thank
you
to
the
City
of
Des
Moines.
For
all
the
time
and
effort
you
have
put
into
finding
the
right
guidelines.
AG
It
is
ensuring
it's
reassuring
to
know
our
selling
our
city
is
willing
to
hear
all
sides
of
the
issue
and
working
diligently
to
find
the
balance
that
works
for
us.
We
asked
the
city
to
please
allow
homes
that
are
not
owner
occupied
to
be
rented
out
as
short-term
rentals
365
days
a
year.
Thank
you.
I.
AH
AF
AH
I'm
next,
my
name
is
Logan
Jewett
I
live
at
400,
Walnut
Street.
If
you
guys
don't
happen
to
recognize
that
address
it's
actually,
the
Kirkwood
hotel
building
gym
shirt
is
coming
up
during
many
of
these
discussions
before
I'm
kind
of
in
a
unique
position,
because
I
don't
actually
own
any
Airbnb
is
in
that
building.
AH
So,
when
I
hear
these
discussions
about
difficulties
dealing
with
Airbnb
guests,
I
kind
of
have
to
question
those
experiences
because
I
personally
probably
live
in
well,
it's
a
unique
situation,
because
it's
one
of
the
few
buildings
in
the
downtown
area
that
actually
allows
condo
units
to
be
rented
out
on
Airbnb
and
so
for
me.
I,
live
probably
in
the
highest
density
area
of
Airbnb,
is
probably
in
the
entire
city
of
Des
Moines.
AH
AH
Noise
ordinances
or
whatever,
complaints
from
guests
I,
can
tell
you
that
many
of
the
guests
that
I've
interacted
with
they're
just
normal
people
they
might
happen
to
be
visiting
in
them
with
Des
Moines
area
visiting
family,
are
in
town
for
an
event
of
some
kind,
but
the
most
part
they're
just
polite
and
courteous.
My
experience
with
Airbnb
is
that
the
platform
itself
is
relatively
good
at
self-regulating.
AH
AH
Usually
it's
a
small
group
of
people,
maybe
they've
managed
to
pick
up
a
couple
of
these
as
a
side,
business
and
they're
not
so
far
removed
that
if
someone
comes
in
and
destroys
the
property
that
they
are,
you
know
helpless
and
they
can
just
write
it
off
on
their
their
taxes,
they're
very
vested
and
interested
in
making
sure
that
those
properties
are
maintained
because
otherwise
no
one's
going
to
want
to
stay
there
and
they
can't
make
any
money.
So
the
gentleman
that
had
asked
you
know
why
not
just
kick
out
existing
tenants
and
start
renting.
AH
Q
Hello,
my
name
is
Emily
fort,
live
in
1908,
south
east
24
I'm,
here
to
speak
tonight
about
Airbnb
short-term
rentals
and
give
testament
to
the
benefits
that
it
brings
to
my
life.
Just
a
little
bit
about
me,
I'm
31
I
am
a
single
mom.
I
have
two
children.
My
son
is
two
of
my
daughters,
four
professionally
I
work
as
a
dental
assistant,
which
paper
might
seem
like
it
would
be
enough
to
keep
me
afloat
but
often
times
I
find
my
debt
to
income
ratio
upside
down
after
paying
$450
a
week.
Q
Take
care
ran
all
of
my
expenses.
Airbnb
short-term
rental
has
come
into
my
life
as
a
supplement.
Income
I,
don't
own
an
Airbnb,
but
I
do
work
for
two
property
owners
as
a
general
housekeeper
I
go
in
and
I
prepared
places
for
the
next
guests.
I
clean
up
after
the
last
I
have
heard
the
argument
of
the
party
house,
but
in
my
in
my
experience
and
having
have
been
doing
this
for
many
months
now,
I
have
not
run
into
a
property
where
the
guests
have
checked
out,
leaving
remnants
of
a
party.
Q
In
fact,
the
overall
class
of
guests
that
stay
in
properties
that
I
clean
is
of
a
much
higher
standard.
They
stay,
treat
and
leave
the
property
respectfully
in
preparing
to
speak
with
you
all
this
evening.
I
did
what
any
socially
terrified
public
speaker
speaker
would
do.
I,
googled
it
and
I
found
the
positive
impact
of
Airbnb
jumps
to
light
most
recently
preceding
the
Iowa
caucuses,
Airbnb
was
projected
to
bring
in
more
than
1
million
dollars.
The
economical
benefits
appear
to
far
outweigh
the
unsupported
concerns
brought
up
by
the
opposition
about
short-term
rentals.
AI
In
listening
to
all
of
these
stories,
in
particularly
Diane's
story
and
a
lot
of
people
that
have
had
problems
with
Airbnb
ease,
I'm
happy
to
say
that
you
guys
are
now
regulating,
so
people
have
to
answer
to
having
issues
with
with
Airbnb
ease,
I'm
an
Airbnb
owner
that
isn't
part
of
my
experience.
I
live
in
a
high-end
condo,
where
the
other
condos
on
my
floor
range
from
six
hundred
thousand
to
two
hundred
and
eighty
thousand
dollars
my
neighbors
when
I
told
them
they're
like
very
apprehensive
they're.
AI
AI
AI
AI
AI
Yeah
I
did
I
mean
not
that
no,
no
neighbor,
if
you
ask
them,
do
you
want
an
air
B&B
next
to
your
house,
nobody's
gonna
say
yes
for
one
thing:
they
don't
you
know
they
just
assume.
Why
would
I?
But
you
could
actually
have
a
bad
neighbor
lived
to
you
that
doesn't
cut
his
grass
and
you
have
to
live
with
them
for
the
rest
of
your
life.
AI
B
J
AI
Yeah
when
they
come
in
like
if
they
didn't
clean
the
mess
they
made
noise
and
your
neighbors
complain
to
you,
then
you
see,
then
you
say
no,
they
made
noise.
They
were
unruly
so
that
backbone.
That's
on
there,
then.
If
they,
then
it
looks
like
oh
I'm,
not
gonna,
rent
to
those
guys,
because
you
know
in
particular,
you
know
the
city
is
gonna.
Go,
that's
strike
one
against
you
and
now
you
know
what
I
mean
so.
AI
AI
I
went
down
right
away
and
got
my
registration
or
whatever
I
paid
six
hundred
and
some
dollars
and
I
still
have
to
pay
like
another
hundred
and
something
three
hundred
and
seventy
dollars
is
just
for
mailers.
They
go
to
the
three
hundred
I,
don't
know
what
the
is
just
to
give
to
people
going.
If
you
have
a
problem
because
there's
an
Airbnb
in
your
neighborhood,
if
you
have
a
problem,
here's
who
you
call
here's
what
you
do
I'm
guessing,
that's
what
these
mailers
say.
So
so
people
have
recourse.
AI
If
they
don't
know
what
to
do
so,
it's
a
you
know.
So
it
is
you
guys,
I
think
they're
doing
a
good
job
to
try
to
help
people
out
that
are
having
problems,
because
nobody
that
has
an
Airbnb
that's
running
things
by
the
book.
We
had
the
inspector
come
in
there
and
he
took
one
look
at
the
place.
That
goes
what
am
I.
AE
AI
Know
I
mean
it's
brand-new
and
everything
had
fire
extinguisher
and
several
alarms,
and
you
know
it
was
you
know
he
said.
Well,
you
obviously
passed
this
inspection,
so
I'm
not
saying
they're,
all
the
same
I'm
just
saying
that
I
think
you
guys
are
doing
a
good
job
with
what
you've
proposed
to
hold
people
accountable.
W
Normally
don't
speak
here,
because
I'm
very
nervous,
usually
in
front
of
people,
but
I,
decide
to
really
speak
because
it's
really
hard
to
stand
and
to
just
say
when
I
see
that
a
lot
of
people
have
this
conception
about
Airbnb
and
I
feel
like
this
is
like
we're,
starting
all
over
again
about
like
when
the
meeting
about
Airbnb
has
happened
in
the
since
the
beginning.
There
was
a
lot
of
people
that
are
opposing
they
were
here
and
then
that
we're
here
again
to
try
to
convince
people.
W
W
We
want
them
out,
you
know,
and
we
want
to
be
sure
that
we
run
it
in
a
very
proper
manner
and
to
have
the
neighbors
feel
so
happy
and
also
for
other
people
from
different
states
to
travel,
to
Des
Moines
and
to
understand
like
what's
locally,
that's
in
the
town
and
to
to
help
the
local
business
as
well.
So
sorry,
I
pick
off
tangent,
so
density
concern.
W
Do
we
do
you
like
donuts
I,
like
donuts,
but
you
know?
Does
that
mean?
Do
we
all
open
up
a
donut
shop
because
I
mean
they're
all
running
successful,
like
donut
shops,
you
know
so
eventually,
right
now
we
are
the
situation,
we're
selling
the
some
properties,
because
we
believe
that
we
reach
the
density
where
we're
no
longer
reeking
like
in
a
property
like
we
used
to
like
last
few
years
ago.
So
having
said
bad
market
itself,
it's
gonna
adjust
on
his
own.
W
W
It
so
parking
it's
not
like
New
York
in
LA
or
like
in
Vegas,
and
also
we
have
a
lot
of
like
acres
in
the
backyard
like
so
has
enough,
like
a
property
for
people
to
not
have
enough
like
complaints
and
noises
I
know
also
there's
a
noises.
Please
report
the
police,
so
we
also
cities
and
us
we
are
in
chart
like
accountable
for
like
who
had
made
a
mistake
and
they
have
a
responsibility
for
taking
care
of
the
property
better
and
insurance
shelter
insurance
covers
it
for
like
short-term
rentals.
W
So
for
other
thing,
when
that's
I've
brought
up
like
insurance,
isn't
that
like?
If
it's
for
short-term
right
notes,
they
do
have
it
and
I'm
sure
there's
more
other
insurance
out
there?
That
also
covers
it,
so
certain
shelters
what
we're
having
so
far.
So,
if
you
guys
know
any
other
insurance
that
covers
please
let
us
know
to
like.
We
would
like
to
see
some
options
and
security.
We
do
background
check.
It's
quite
to
the
point.
W
Actually,
people
with
even
small
record
of
committing
crimes
will
not
be
allowed
in
the
system
so
for
those
people
who
has
a
record
like
we're,
felony
charges
like
that
are
trying
to
get
into
the
system
every
every
B&B,
the
background
check
will
make
them
not
to
be
able
to
rent
the
spaces.
So
so
that's
also
issue
that
kind
of
could
secure
for
the
people
and
the
rating
system
matters
and
other
people
has
mentioned.
W
Ruby
was
really
scary,
I
once
a
party
without
knowing
what
Airbnb
is
when
I
was
younger
and
I
had
a
terrible
review
one-star
and
since
then
experience
I
had
a
problem
getting
rejected
by
other
owners
to
be
able
to
book
the
Airbnb.
So
people
are
very
scared
of
the
review
system.
So
it's
really
really
people
get
cautious
to
like
make
throw
a
party
and
to
follow
the
rules
that
the
people
has
been
guiding
and.
W
So
yes,
a
lot
of
people
are
relying
on
this
their
livelihoods
here
of
single
moms
retiree
young
entrepreneurs
and
local
business
owners.
I
know
a
lot
of
people
has
been
brought
about.
I
see
a
lot
of
new
faces
here.
This
time
probably
got
convinced
by
some
other
locals
who
were
opposing
Airbnb,
but
we
want
regulation
and
be
streak
with
inspection,
so
we
like
we
be
in
charge
of
it,
also
like
and
could.
R
W
A
bachelor
party-
and
it
was
a
I-
had
like
some
glitters
glitters
with
and
I,
don't
want
to
be
specific
with,
like
you
know
what
what
was
the
glitter,
but
you
know
there
was
a
party,
but
it
was
nautical
it
hurt
like
I
would
say
it
was
hard
to
clean,
but
even
then
I
understand
that
it
was
enough
of
like
they
didn't
want
the
party,
but
I
did
so.
That
was
an
issue
and.
R
W
So
yeah
and
I've
been
getting
rejected
very
harshly,
but
in
a
meanwhile
like
after
a
couple
of
times,
convincing
other
people
and
I
had
to
first
rent
some
cheap
places
that
are
more
willing
to
like
rent
it
out
to
some
other
options
and
stuff.
So
after
me
getting
around
with
it
eventually
I
recovered
it.
But
that
last
lesson
was
very
harshly
learned
now,
because
because
I
love,
Airbnb
and
I
assume
a
lot
of
people
do,
it
was
really
really
hard
for
me
to
rent
it
again
and
again
like
in
the
very
shortly
after.
W
A
AK
Benefits
and
I
mean
other
than
the
benefit
that
I'm,
a
stay-at-home
mom
and
I
still
get
to
do
what
I
love
doing,
which
is
cleaning,
and
so
for
me,
that's
the
best
benefit.
My
has
I
have
insurance
through
my
husband
and
for
our
kids,
so
I
wasn't
actually
looking
for
a
job
that
would
provide
insurance
and
dental
and
I
and
stuff
like
that.
I
was
looking
for.
This
is
my.
This
is
mom
time
like
I
get
to
get
out
of
the
house.
AK
U
Hi,
my
name
is
Edie
Allen
and
I'm
at
1721,
pleasant
street
in
Sherman,
Hill
and
I
just
wanted
to
come
and
voice
my
opinion
here
today,
so
I'm,
not
a
public
speaker
but
as
I
sit
and
listen
to
all
these
people
come
up
here.
I
just
would
ask
the
City
Council's
just
step
back
and
get
out
of
all
the
nonsense.
That's
really
what
this
is.
You
know,
there's
always
gonna
be
people,
that's
opposed
to
things.
U
Let's
just
look
at
this
from
a
logical
standpoint
and
separate
the
landlord's
from
the
people
that
want
to
rent
out
their
couch
or
rent
out
their
bedroom,
we're
all
being
lumped
into
this
category
of
all
being
bad
or
all
being
the
same.
But
as
landlords
we're
put
into
a
category
of
we
have
our
occupancy
permits.
We
have
our
rental
inspections.
We
have
a
system
in
place
if
there's
problems
a
cracked
window,
a
noise
complaint.
Take
your
pick,
there's
already
a
process.
This
is
an
example
of
government
over
regulating.
U
If
you
come
up
with
anything
that
would
change
the
current
pattern,
which
you
should
be
focused
on
as
a
people
that
have
their
couches,
they
don't
have
working
smoke
detectors.
They
don't
have
an
evacuation
plan,
they
don't
have
fire
extinguishers,
yet
we're
we're
all
the
same.
What
what's
wrong
with
us?
What
are
we
doing
here
guys
come
on.
It's
already
regulated,
there's
already
a
system
in
place,
so
we're
just
creating
another
regulation
that
can
go
a
couple
of
different
directions.
U
I
mean
obviously
with
this
many
people
here
you
know
wanting
this
thing
to
change,
then
we're
gonna
have
lawsuits
and
then
the
Supreme
Court
will
figure
it
out.
We've
all
been
here
before
and
what
happens
in
the
City.
Councilor
comes
up
with
ideas
to
benefit
the
the
city
where
they're
stacking
laws,
they
end
up,
reversing
it,
and
then
we
waste
all
this
time
and
energy.
What
are
we
doing?
So
that's
my
only
position,
I
just
would
ask
the
City
Council
just
take
a
you
know,
common-sense
approach,
this
we're
already
paying
the
fees.
U
Why
stack
another
fee?
Why
stack
another
inspection
on
a
department?
That's
already
stressed
in
limits
put
it
on
the
people
rent
out
their
couches.
It's
only
gonna
take
one
lots
of
light
before
we
have
a
head-scratcher
and
say
gee.
We
never
looked
at
that
unit.
No,
they
don't
have
working
smoke
detectors.
No,
we
didn't
inspect
it
if
these
landlords
they're
held
to
a
higher
degree.
So
that's
my
position,
I.
Just
think
that
we
used
to
separate
the
two
and
recognize
what's
already
been,
regulating,
what's
not
being
regulated,
not
to
put
them
all
together.
Just.
U
U
Not
somebody
renting
out
a
couch,
for
example,
which
you
know
you
can
do
on
Airbnb.
You
can
ran
out
of
couch.
You
can
run
out
that
back
bedroom,
but
you
know
you
don't
really
know
what
you're
getting
when
you
bring
some
stranger
into
your
home
and
it
goes
both
ways.
I
mean
they
don't
know
what
they're
getting
either
it
could
be.
Some
guy,
that's
you
know,
has
bad
intentions
as
a
landlord,
we're
held
to
a
higher
degree
and
we
are
regulated.
U
I
both
I
have
rental
properties
that
are
all
apartments
and
then,
within
those
sometime
we
do
do
Airbnb,
okay
and
to
say
that
you
know
of
this
percent
can
be
that
I
think
it's
an
overreach
of
the
government
to
say:
well,
you
can
only
do
X
number
of
months
hey
why
regulated
at
all,
we,
we
are
complying
with
all
the
laws.
What
difference
does
it
make
if
it's
one
day
or
one
year
it
makes
zero
difference
and
so
to
the
neighborhood?
U
R
The
question
I
don't
know
if
you
were
here
earlier,
I
was
asking
a
question
about
tax
treatment,
because
a
multi-tenant
multi-tenant
property,
that
is
residential,
is
treated
differently
for
tax
purposes
than
a
hotel,
for
example,
and
if
you
were
all
short-term
rentals,
what
would
you
suggest
we
do
from
a
tax
perspective?
In
that
case,.
U
R
I'm
more
the
hotel
use
tax
is
collected
on
short-term
rentals.
That's
my
understanding.
Okay,
I'm
more
concerned
about
from
a
tax
perspective,
I
mean
you
could
have
what
was
previously
a
multi-family
end
up.
Looking
an
awful
lot
like
a
hotel
and
get
very
different
tax
treatment,
because
they're
still
treated
like
a
multifamily.
U
A
U
For
example,
I
look
at
the
Lexington
and
Sherman
Hill
and
I,
don't
know
who
I
think
you
know
what
that
is.
It's
great
building
people
that
come.
They
want
a
historic,
you
know
type
of
feel
and
they
want
to
see
what
it
used
to
be
a
hundred
years
ago
and
they
want
to
get
that
feeling.
There's
no
question
my
mind:
we've
got
demand
to
fill
the
whole
building.
That
way,
is
it
realistic?
U
AL
J
AL
R
AL
Thank
you.
Okay,
it
is
my
only
source
of
income.
I'm
in
my
60s
I
took
fifty
thousand
out
of
retirement
to
invest
in
these
homes
to
upgrade
them
they're
gorgeous
folks,
I'm
not
being
arrogant.
They
really
are
30%
of
the
homes
in
these
neighborhoods
of
the
Airbnb
I
own
are
long-term.
Rentals
and
I
will
challenge
anybody
in
this
room
to
drive
by
and
pick
out
the
top
five
in
that
street.
Just
from
curb
appeal
and
I
guarantee,
mine
will
be
one
of
them.
AL
If
you
go
inside,
I
may
be
top
2%
they're
that
nice
that's
why
they
are
always
we're
not
always
rented,
but
I
I
do
make
good
income
on
non
them.
My
cleaning
crew.
Fifty
fifty
percent
of
their
monthly
income
comes
from
cleaning
these
Airbnb
properties,
and
they
have
said
that
they
do
clean,
others
that
are
owner
occupied
or
rentals
long-term,
and
nothing
is
this
nice
and
they're
mad
at
me,
because
I'm
picky,
if
a
light
bulb,
is
burned
out
by
George.
AL
AL
When
I
bought
a
duplex
in
Ankeny,
which
I
now
sold
both
sides
were
an
air
B&B
that
neighbor
came
running
up
to
me.
She
was
almost
in
tears
and
thanked
me.
She
had
tolerated
these
long-term
rentals.
For
years
they
had
a
pit.
Bull,
always
domestic
arguments.
Police
were
called
junky
cars
in
the
driveway.
She
thanked
me
to
the
point
where
I
didn't
have
to
go
over
there
to
put
the
trash
out.
She
did
it
for
me
every
week
she
was
so
thankful,
so
you
know
in
her
case
before
I
bought
it.
AL
Where
was
the
protection
of
neighbors
that
somebody
mentioned
earlier?
You
know
our
neighbors
need
to
be
protected.
Where
was
her
protection
from
long-term
rentals
is
what
I
want
to
know.
So
all
I'm
saying
is:
please
don't
discriminate,
treat
them
both.
Equally
you're
gonna
have
the
same
number
of
problems
with
long
term.
Rentals,
as
you
are
short
term,
rentals
I've
had
both
and
I
know,
which
was
a
bigger
headache
for
me.
So
that's
very
important.
AL
Nobody
I
know
that
owns
Airbnb
allows
party.
If
you
go
on
there,
it
says
parties
allowed
it'll
say
no.
If
it
happens,
it's
a
flu
that
can
happen
with
anybody.
Mandalay
Bay
Hotel
in
Vegas
had
a
shooting
a
few
years
ago.
They
didn't
shut
down
all
hotels
or
put
them
in
the
same
categories.
Folks,
there's
gonna
be
a
bad
apple.
AL
I've
had
homeowners
next
to
me
that
I
couldn't
stand
wishing
I
could
do
something,
at
least
if
you
have
a
bad
incident,
they're
gone,
the
average
they
stay
is
one
to
two
days,
so
I
wanted
to
bring
that
up
and
I
understand
the
concerns
about
people
who
don't
want
an
Airbnb
next
or
excuse
me
a
short-term
rental.
Next
to
them.
My
mother
had
the
same
concern.
I
had
this
conversation
with
her
and
explained
to
her.
AL
She
just
didn't
understand
what
goes
on
on
the
other
side
of
short-term
rentals
and
then
after
I
explained
it
to
her.
She
said
I
would
rather
have
that
next
to
me
than
some
of
the
long-term
renters
that
I
have
had
live
next
door
to
me,
including
some
horrible
neighbors
I
hate,
to
say
yes,
whatever
restrictions
you're
putting
on
short-term
rentals,
all
we
ask
is:
please
do
the
same
for
long-term
rentals
be
fair.
AL
It's
my
only
source
of
income,
so
I
plead
with
you
to
please
take
that
into
consideration,
so
I
don't
have
to
look
for
a
job
in
my
60s
and
I
also
want
to
thank
you
all
for
hearing
both
sides,
because
it
lets
us
know,
there's
hope
and
I
think
it
should
be
important
to
come
to
a
compromise,
because
we
need
to
please
both
sides
if
we
can
come
to
an
agreement
somewhere
in
the
middle.
That
would
be
great.
So
thank
you
all
very
much.
AJ
Hello,
I'm,
Brad,
Padre
I
live
at
four
four
zero.
Seven
South
East
6th
Street
I've
been
involved
in
this
short-term
rental
back
and
forth
for
quite
a
while.
I
have
a
unique
position
in
the
community
because
I
do
not
rely
on
this
for
a
primary
source
of
income,
but
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
do
outside
this
room.
AJ
There's
some
people
who
don't
want
to
speak
and
as
things
progressed
and
as
people
have
started
to
talk
more
I've
kind
of
put
myself
in
a
position
where
you
know
folks
will
come
to
me
and
they'll
be
like.
Oh,
you
know,
I
need
a
job,
I'm
worried.
You
know
that
you
know
this
political
debate
is
going
to
shut
some
of
these
things
down
go
into
a
Highland
Park
meeting
recently
and
two
people
asked
me
for
work.
I
went
to
speak
on
Airbnb
and
I
said
hey.
You
know
this
is
what's
happening.
AJ
What
do
you
all
think
they
received
a
flyer
from
a
certain
set
of
neighbors
and,
to
be
honest,
they
didn't
really
care.
They
hadn't
really
had
it
as
part
of
their
agenda.
They
read
through
it,
but
they
were
concerned
with
trash.
They
were
concerned
with
a
lot
of
other
things.
Do
you
mind
if
I
bring
in
just
some
of
the
people
who
are
outside
the
room?
Who
just
want
to
show
themselves?
You
know
I.
Think
we've
been
here,
I'm.
A
AJ
Could
I
bring
just
ten
people
in
then
and
I'll?
Just
have
them
say:
hi,
okay,
yeah
hi,
but
but
in
general,
not
everybody's
as
much
of
a
loud
mouth
as
I
am
so
I
simply
want
to
just
present
a
number
of
the
people
like
everybody
over
here
you
know
somehow
relies
on
short-term
rentals
for
their
livelihood.
If
this
amendment
doesn't
pass,
then
this
is
gonna
affect
them
in
a
negative
way.
So
are
you
guys
residents
of
Des
Moines
and
do
you
support
the
short-term
rental
amendment
that
is
on
the
table
right
now,
all
right
cool?
B
AJ
Kind
of
back
to
the
back,
to
kind
of
some
some
more
significant
points
and
just
trying
to
prove
that
this
isn't
really.
You
know
like
it's,
not
really
the
brat
Padre
show
it's.
You
know,
there's
a
lot
of
people
behind
this
and
I.
Just
kind
of
accidentally
fell
into
this
weird
position
where
people
are
relying
on
me
to
kind
of
defend
their
interests
and
I've
heard
a
lot
of
interesting
things.
Tonight.
A
woman
said
that
all
of
air
beam
we
Airbnb
owners
are
going
to
start
setting
fires
at
our
own
places.
AJ
AJ
Down,
yes,
that
was
a
long-term
rental
burned
down
one
day
after
I
bought
it.
So
my
experience
with
long-term
rentals
was
very
negative
and
that's
kind
of
like
I
mean
I.
Wouldn't
I
never
wanted
to
be
an
Airbnb
guy.
It's
just
I
bought
a
property
thought
I'd,
you
know,
collect
some
rent,
picks
it
up
and
then
one
day
into
it,
an
arsonist
set
it
on
fire
and
I
found
myself
in
the
hole
quite
a
bit.
AJ
Just
a
couple
of
other
things
is,
you
know,
czb
said
they
did
their
research
on
this
town
and
and
des
moines
is
underperforming
as
far
as
its
real
estate
goes,
I
mean
this
is
just
a
researched
fact.
Trying
to
ward
off
the
Airbnb
community
is
bad,
and
the
last
thing
I
want
to
say
is
that
the
ordinance
is.
Finally
the
balance
we've
been
looking
for.
If
people
don't
like
it
in
their
neighborhood,
they
can
respond
to
the
postcard.
AJ
The
folks
who
don't
like
Airbnb
say
they
don't
want
to
call
the
police,
they
don't
say
they
don't
want
to
call
Simon
Donovan,
but
yet
they're
willing
to
go
to
other
neighborhoods.
How
do
their
way
and
say
you
know
that
this
is
a
problem,
a
lot
of
these
complaints.
You
know
that
the
city
is
not
Ingersoll
Park.
AJ
The
city
is
not
this
area
of
the
West
that
is
trying
to
represent
control
us
I
want
to
get
into
River
Bend
I
want
to
renovate
in
Columbus
Park,
and
these
people,
like
me
and
I,
don't
want
to
let
them
down
and
I
want
to
hire
some
of
these
residents
to
help
me
do
carpentry
and
help
me
do
the
lawns
and
stuff
anyways.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
I
appreciate
it.
One
question.
J
AJ
We
only
represent
really
1%
of
the
rental
market
right
now,
you
know
so
we're
not
that
big,
but
the
amount
of
money
we've
spent
is
significant
and
you
know
in
a
town
where
we're
all
trying
to
work
as
hard
as
possible.
We're
all
trying
to
make
things
better.
I
mean
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
trying
to
ward
off
these
motivated
young
people,
you
know
it's
not
I,
don't
think
it's
the
best
choice
and
yeah.
That's
what's
easy,
be
said.
Thank
you.
Okay,
how.
AJ
Sorry,
how
many
do
you
have
so
right
now,
I'm
operating
five
up
until
recently,
I
was
operating.
Six
I
turned
one
into
a
long-term
rental,
because
there's
too
much
competition
and
in
a
strange
sense
of
irony,
I
still
want
it
to
be
a
free
market,
even
though
you
know
I
could
probably
finagle
things
to
keep
more
people
out.
So
we
me
and
my
partner
we've
put
one
up
for
sale
in
the
last
two
months
and
one
of
them
became
a
long-term
rental.
AJ
You
know
in
the
south
side
near
barratto's,
because
as
saturation
hits,
I
mean
that
saturation
hits
people's
will
start
to
get
out
of
the
market
because
it's
not
profitable
anymore
and
I
do
view
myself
as
one
of
the
kind
of
more
savvy
people
around
here
and
if
I'm
backing
out,
then
you
know
it
kind
of
makes
this
whole
density
question
a
little
peculiar.
Nobody
is
gonna,
go
to
Waterbury
and
buy
two
big
houses
next
to
each
other.
AJ
V
Hi
I'm,
one
of
those
resourceful
young
people,
Brad,
was
just
talking
about
I,
actually
work
for
Brad
Padre.
Amongst
a
few
other
Airbnb
people.
My
name
is
Dakota.
I
live
at
208
Laconia.
My
name
is
Dakota
and
I
live
at
208,
Laconia,
Avenue
I'm.
Actually,
the
house
that
is
now
a
long-term
rental
right
next
to
bharata's,
he
turned
in
jewelry
exactly
he
turned
it
into
a
long-term
rental
and
I
was
like
that
house
is
super
nice
because
I
clean
it
every
day.
V
I
know
what
it
looks
like
I'm
renting
that
so
and
that's
part
of
my
point,
there's
been
a
lot
of
misinformation
about
this
concept
of
Airbnb
is
creating
that
atmosphere
of
absentee
landlord
inge
and
oh
anybody
and
everybody
is
just
gonna
end
up
in
this
unit.
They're
gonna
come
at
all
hours
of
the
night.
They're
gonna
do
whatever
they
want,
cuz
the
landlord's,
not
there
and
he's
not
paying
attention.
My
job
is
the
reason
that
that
cannot
happen.
V
I
am
in
those
units
every
other
day,
turning
them
over
cleaning
them
and
every
four
hours
I'm
communicating
with
a
guest,
because
they're
running
low
on
coffee
grounds
or
they're
running
low
on
coffee,
creamer
I
am
constantly
in
communication
with
these
houses
and
with
the
people
staying
in
them,
because,
yes,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
they
aren't
parking
on
the
streets
during
snow
ordinances,
because
we've
had
to
deal
with
that
and
we
had
to
drive
them
to
where
their
car
was
towed.
It
was
a
whole
ordeal
and
we
don't
want
that.
V
So
we're
like
no
don't
Park
on
the
street
Park
in
the
parking
lots
Park
in
your
driveways.
We
only
pick
out
Park
units
or
houses
that
have
driveway
so
that
they
can
stay
off
the
streets.
My
job
is
really
to
make
sure
that
all
of
these
units
are
constantly
above
par
and
above
average,
because
if
they're
not
we're
not
going
to
get
bookings,
we've
also
heard
people
speak
of
an
excessive
amount
of
guests
in
the
units.
That's
something
that
at
least
me
personally
irritates
me
to
no
end,
because
we
lose
money.
V
If
there
are
16
people
in
a
five
person
house
like
it,
doesn't
because
if
there's
16
people
in
there,
they
definitely
didn't
book
for
sixteen
people,
and
that
means
we've
lost
out
on
ten
people
worth
of
money.
So
we
are
always
really
really
cognizant
of
who's.
Checking
in
how
many
people
are
coming,
we
asked
them
to
reconfirm
how
many
people
are
staying.
They
the
number
influences,
how
much
they
pay.
V
All
of
that
and
Airbnb
goes
through
and
vets
so
that
we
aren't
having
sex
offenders
in
our
units
and
we
aren't
having
I,
think
I
heard
the
day
transient
neighbors.
We
don't
get
transient
neighbors
through
Airbnb,
because
Airbnb
itself
vets
them
and
then
we
on
top
of
that
vet
them
because
we
go
through
and
look
at
the
reviews
after
Airbnb
has
said
this
is
a
standard.
You
know
this
is
a
good
person.
This
person
isn't
breaking
laws,
we
go
great,
but
are
they
keeping
the
house
nice?
Are
they
all
of
those
things?
V
So
there's
a
double
vetting
process
that
goes
through
on
both
ends
before
a
guest
gets
booked
and
I
know.
Brad
mentioned
the
concept
of
you,
know
capacity
and
that's
my
bail,
we're
not
it's
impossible
for
us
to
get
more
units
than
kind
of
what
we're
at
now,
because
we're
competing
with
ourselves,
and
at
that
point
it
doesn't
make
sense
all.
R
A
R
V
Do
I
actually
meet
face
to
face
I'd,
probably
say
about
ten
percent
of
them,
because
we've
tried
to
do
a
we've
tried
to
set
up
a
process
in
which
the
guest
is
not
relying
on
us
to
be
there
to
let
them
in
so
we've
got
automated
lock
systems
and
we
give
them
an
automated
code
for
safety
and
security,
so
the
code
is
always
changing
and
if
they
need
us
I'm
five
minutes
from
all
of
our
properties,
so
I
can
always
go
there.
I'm
always
on
call
that's
my
job.
I'm,
always
on
call
to
show
up.
V
I
have
had
to
be
at
a
unit
at
11:30
at
night,
because
the
guests
couldn't
figure
out
how
to
open
a
lockbox.
Tell
you
what
that's
a
frustrating
situation,
but
yes,
I'm
always
available
to
be
visible
to
the
guests,
but
usually
because
of
the
processes
we've
setup
I
don't
have
to
see
them,
but
about
10%
of
the
time.
AM
Hi,
my
name
is
Emily
Donlon
I'm,
the
owner
and
full-time
manager
of
the
air
B&B
at
4-4,
2-0,
Harwood
Drive.
It's
me
I'm,
happy
to
finally
speak
with
you,
I've
been
kind
of
nervous,
so
please
bear
with
me
as
I
just
say
a
few
things.
First,
I
want
to
thank
all
of
the
neighbors
that
have
expressed
concern.
AM
I,
really
value
your
opinion
and
I
really
appreciate
you
showing
that
you
care
so
much
about
Waterbury,
I
love,
Waterbury
I
have
lived
there
since
last
July
I
moved
to
Waterbury
640
48th
Street
is
where
my
husband
and
I
live,
and
it's
been
a
great
community
for
us
to
be
part
of,
and
it's
been
really
really
exciting,
to
be
able
to
show
Airbnb
guests
what
what's
so
great
about
Waterbury
every
guest
that
stays
in
our
house.
They
always
comment
on
how
beautiful
the
neighborhood
is,
and
that
is
so
exciting.
AM
So
I
just
wanted
to
show
you
my
face,
because
I
know
that
there
have
been
some
complaints
about
my
property
I
want
to
show
you
what
I'm
really
about
I
love.
What
Waterbury
like
I
said-
and
it's
been
a
very,
very
great
opportunity
for
me
to
be
able
to
work
on
paying
off
student
loans.
My
husband
and
I
eventually
want
to
start
a
family,
so
it's
been
a
very
good
opportunity
for
us
to
make
extra
additional
income
on
top
of
that,
our
property,
in
particular
my
husband,
renovated
the
property.
AM
AM
M
AM
AM
AM
B
AM
Pdf
so
I
also
shared
all
of
our
art
rules
for
the
guests.
When
I
first
heard
complaints,
I
went
back
and
I
reviewed
all
of
the
rules
like
I'm,
really
really
trying
hard
I
am,
and
so
I
reviewed.
All
the
rules
like
how
can
I
make
sure
that
things
aren't
going
on
that
I
that
I
don't
want
to
be
happening
right.
Obviously,
I'm,
not
perfect,
so
I
went
and
went.
I
went
through
that
and
really
tried
to
work
on
that
I
met
with
two
neighbors
that
live
four
doors
down
a
week
after
I.
AM
First
heard
complaints,
I'm
just
really
quick.
We
opened
in
September
20th.
My
first
heard
complaints
on
October
7th.
Two
weeks
after
we
opened,
we
only
had
hosted
three
times,
two
of
which
were
during
the
week,
and
they
had
complained
that
there
were
parties
every
weekend.
They
were
being
kept
up
with
noise
complaints,
I
met
with
him
with
within
a
week,
and
they
couldn't
even
list
one
particular
instance
for
noise
complaints.
AM
Of
course,
I
still
understand
the
fear,
so
I
really
went
back
to
my
rules
and
I
and
I
really
want
to
make
it
work
after
that,
I
didn't
hear
anything
until
January
and
then
I
reached
out
to
them
and
I
still
heard
some
concerns
after
that,
that's
when
I
went
and
spent
every
twenty
consecutive
days
reviewing
the
property
morning
afternoon
and
evening
and
I
took
photos
of
that
as
well.
So
my
point
being
Airbnb
has
been
really
great
for
us:
I
want
to
share
our
neighbor
neighborhoods
with
guests.
AM
Everybody
comments
on
how
beautiful
it
is,
and
it's
been
very
exciting
for
me
to
hear
that
it's
been
a
really
great
opportunity
for
us
financially,
where
my
husband
is
a
business
owner
and
I
am
I
host
and
I
also
style
houses
during
the
week.
So
I
have
multiple
things
going
on
anyway.
That
being
said,
sorry.
C
AM
AN
Hi
I'm
mo
I'm
gonna
Airbnb
I,
was
just
promised.
We
just
can
try
to
hit
some
facts.
Yeah
I
think
is
very
important.
There's
been
a
lot
of
emotional
arguments
that
have
been
made
here.
One
of
the
arguments
have
been
made,
I
mean
and
I
took
care
it's
hard
to
change,
it's
hard
to
see
your
neighborhood
changing
and
because
you
emotionally
attached
to
it
and
it
changes.
One
of
the
arguments
that
has
been
made
here
is
about
run
prices
going
up,
I
did
a
little
bit
of
research.
You
know
stuff
called
Google
like.
AN
Oh,
you
can
do
a
little
bit
of
research.
There's
no
fat,
there's
no
data
that
supports
the
idea
that
therapy
and
B
make
you
know,
has
driven
brand
prices
up
in
this
market.
No
I've
heard
some
people
say,
but
in
New
York,
but
in
San
Francisco.
Those
are
totally
different
market.
It's
not
very
hard
to
understand
that
a
different
market
and
what
happens
in
New,
York
or
San
Francisco
is
enough.
So
they
don't
happen
here
in
Des
Moines.
There
they're
totally
different.
There's
also,
and
the
other
thing
that
bothers
me.
AN
I
can
say
it's:
it's
been
transformed
with
speed
kind
of
friend
asked
Airbnb.
Yes,
the
good
people
of
tomorrow.
It's
been
trained
eyes
as
if
giant
corporation
is
invading
their
neighborhood.
When
you
look
at
the
owned
owners,
it's
people
like
me
and
my
fiance
people
by
immigrants
like
me,
came
came
here
11
and
a
half
years
ago
with
absolutely
nothing
and,
and
just
you
know,
trying
to
save
for
retirement
and
invest
for
retirement,
so
I
think
it's
important
too
I
mean
and
I
ask
you
I.
Thank
you.
AN
When
you
make
a
decision,
I
get
the
emotional
argument
you
know
is
there
and
the
neighborhoods?
If
you
look
at
the
neighborhoods,
are
not
really
worse,
they're
just
different,
so
different
is
not
necessarily
bad.
It
is
different
and
people
have
a
hard
time
getting
used
to
the
neighborhood's.
Changing
I
mean
and
I'll.
Tell
you.
I
haven't
lived
here
long
enough
in
the
moment
to
be
honest,
I've
been
tomorrow
since
May
only,
but
if
you
look
at
how
it
looked
in
10-15
years
ago,
I'm
pretty
sure
it's
different
for
now.
Does
it
make
it
worse?
AN
I
mean.
Is
you
know
this?
Is
the
question
that
everybody
has
and,
more
importantly,
if
you
look
at
most
people
on
Bryan
Brad,
for
instance,
is
someone?
That's
invest,
that's
invested
in
real
estate,
a
lot
I
know
him
very
well,
and
one
of
the
reasons.
Why
is
invest
in
real
estate?
He
has
a
goal
to
retire
at
a
certain
age
and
I.
You
know
and
I
used
to
tell
him
but
Brad.
Why
don't
you
invest
in
the
market?
He's
like
I?
AN
Don't
trust
the
market,
I'm
gonna
invest
for
a
state,
so
the
Airbnb
thing
is
people
that
put
their
capital
at
risk
and
they
offer
your
deal
to
view.
They
say:
look
I'm
gonna
put
my
own
capital
at
address
if
I
lose
I
lose,
but
if
I
win,
I
share
the
prosperity
in
terms
of
tax
property
taxes
and
any
kind
of
taxes
that
you
guys
know
right.
So,
if
you
look
at
this
there's
it's
hard
to
see.
If
you
make
a
logical
argument,
it's
very
difficult
to
to
say,
let's
ban
it
or
like
less
restrictive.
AN
If
you
make
the
emotional
argument,
you
can
come
up
with
anything,
you
and
I
do
get
it
emotional
arguments,
especially
these
days.
American
motional
arguments
sometimes
tend
to
win,
because,
sadly
sometimes
facts
don't
seem
to
matter,
but
as
you
make
the
decision
I,
please
thank
you
to
consider
facts
rather
than
emotions.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
AO
AO
I
believe
that
already
submitted
to
you
has
been
some
of
the
research
we've
done
on
in
our
neighborhood,
which,
while
I'm,
certainly
no
expert,
does
appear
to
indicate
that
some
of
what
I've
heard
about
the
proposed
regulation
puts
us
at
odds,
sometimes
at
significant
odds
with
what
other
communities
have
found
to
be
reasonable
checks
and
balances.
So
I'm
here
really
to
speak
to
that
and
and
requests
that
we
consider
best
practices
as
they've
been
discovered
across
our
country.
However,
I
want
to
close
with
two
things
that
I've
observed.
AO
AO
Additionally,
the
other
thing
that
occurs
to
me
is
we've
heard
about
the
rating
system,
and,
yes,
I
agree
that
there
is
a
rating
fit
system.
In
fact,
I
want
to
share
with
you
my
own
experiences
at
a
B&B
I
enjoy
them,
but
rating
tenants
is
after
the
fact
something
occurred
to
get
a
negative
rating.
Destructive
tenants
are,
after
the
fact,
bachelorette
parties
are,
after
the
fact,
one
has
to
deal
with
them
and
possibly
over
and
over
again
or
possibly
not,
but
in
closing
I
heard
someone
say
something
that
captured
my
interest.
AO
They
said
99%
of
the
guests
in
their
B&B
were
wonderful
guests
and
I
believe
that
my
husband
who's
here
also
to
represent
our
concerns
and
I.
When
we
stay
at
the
end
bead,
we
are
part
of
the
99%
we
intend
to
be,
but
I
will
share
two
incidents
where
I
could
have
been
the
1%,
but
for
a
few
things,
for
example,
staying
at
a
B&B
recently
I'm
in
another
community,
there
was
a
fire
in
the
fireplace
I
had
closed
the
glass
doors
before
I
went
to
bed.
AO
The
doors
burst
in
the
middle
of
the
night
and
sparks
flew
out.
I
was
able
to
hear
that
and
get
up
and
make
sure
that
none
of
those
sparks
landed
somewhere
where
they
could
have
done
damage.
Additionally,
we
often
bring
in
candles
and
I'm
a
very
careful
candle
user,
but
I'm,
not
everybody.
I
could
just
as
easily
make
a
mistake
and
be
a
1%
and
I'll
close
with
this.
AO
Many
of
the
BN
B's
that
I've
stata
have
had
grills
and
wonderful
decks,
just
like
what
we
saw
in
the
photograph
and
I'll
tell
you
that
as
a
BNP
user,
I
stay
away
from
the
girls,
because
I'm
very
conscious
that
I
don't
know
how
to
use
them
very
well,
I'm
afraid
of
having
some
accident
happen,
so
I
stay
away.
That's
who
I
am
but
I
can't
speak
for
everybody
and
I
do
know
that
one
time
can
be
a
disaster,
particularly
in
an
area
of
Sherman
Hill
where
we
have
non-conforming
houses.
AO
My
house
is
very,
very
close
to
the
house.
Next
door.
We
have
wooden
houses,
hollow
walls,
sound
travels
differently,
the
fire
could
jump
differently
and
so
I'm
just
here
to
say
that
those
struck
me
because
I
enjoy
being
bees,
I
support
them,
but
I
would
like
to
see
balanced
regulation
for
even
for
people
like
myself,
who
could
simply
make
a
mistake.
Thank
you.
A
I'd
like
to
make
one:
are
there
any
more
people
that
are
thinking
about
standing,
because
we
originally
asked
everybody
to
stand
up
over
here.
There
was
about
a
dozen
people.
We've
had
now
over
two
dozen
people
that
keep
coming
up.
Are
there
any
more
people
that
have
in
mind
getting
up
after
this?
These
folks
are
finished
here
all
right,
so
we've
got
one
two,
three,
four
five
more
right
good
come
in.
Thank.
AP
AP
AP
They've
also
come
to
town
hall
meetings
and
so
they're.
A
part
of
this
I
was
able
to
stay
home
with
my
daughter
when
she
was
3
years
old
because
of
the
have
being
able
to
have
an
Airbnb
and
it
is
our
primary
source
of
income.
I
know
a
lot
of
people
have
talked
about
the
guests
that
say
assuming
that
people
are
coming
only
to
have
parties
and
I
wanted
to.
Let
you
guys
know
being
a
host
and
I
have
a
person
that
comes
once
a
month.
It
is
a
doctor
he's
a
surgeon.
AP
He
stays
for
two
weeks
at
a
time
and
the
reason
why
he
chooses
to
stay
with
us
is
because
he's
able
to
leave
all
of
his
clothes
he's
able
to
leave
all
of
his
dry
good
items
and
I
work
almost
like
a
concierge
or
eggs,
I'm
able
to
provide
that
to
him
when
he
flies
in,
he
can
rent
a
car
and
then,
when
he
comes,
he
doesn't
have
to
take
his
scrubs
and
all
of
his
clothes
back
with
him.
On
the
other
situation,
my
husband
and
I
don't
have
any
family
and
Des
Moines
at
all.
AP
So
we're
able
to
use
that
for
our
mother-in-law
and
we
also
host
guests
who
come
here.
They
have
children
here
and
they
come
to
see
their
grandkids
and
so
I'll
leave
books
at
the
space
for
them.
I'll
tell
them
about
the
zoo
on
the
Science
Center
different
places.
They
can
take
their
grandkids
and
give
mom
and
dad
a
break
for
the
weekend
and
use
the
space
almost
like
a
home,
a
secondary
home.
My
mother-in-law
does
that
for
me,
so
it
works
very
well.
AP
The
other
situation
I
wanted
to
bring
up
is
I,
have
a
good
relationship
with
a
couple
of
different
realtor's.
So
when
a
person
is
trying
to
sell
a
home
and
building
another
home,
we've
had
someone
stay
with
us
for
over
a
month
time
because
they
were
in
transition.
So
these
are
people
who
live
in
des
moines,
but
they're
looking
for
a
place
where
they
could
have
a
full
kitchen.
They
want
laundry,
they
don't
want
to
have
to
go
down
to
a
community
space
and
leave
their
laundry.
AP
It
does
sometimes
be
like
what
kind
of
clothes
do
I
have
I,
don't
want
to
use
that
or
leave
those
things
they
want
to
feel
like
home,
and
they
want
to
be
able
to
have
an
outdoor
space.
They
can
get
fresh
air,
they
can
go
to
the
patio,
so
they
want
that
as
well.
The
other
situation
I
wanted
to
bring
up
is
we've
been
able
to
house
people
that
are
relocating
to
des
moines.
So
you
don't
know
the
market,
you
don't
know
where
to
rent.
AP
You
don't
know
if
you're
gonna
be
able
to
keep
the
job
or
even,
if
you
like,
the
job
and
so
you'll
come
and
you'll
use
this
as
a
temporary
residence
until
you
figure
out
if
the
jobs
right
for
you
and
then
find
a
place
to
stay.
So
these
are
situations
where
people
assume
people
are
only
coming
just
for
a
party
or
weekend
getaway.
These
sometimes
are
des
moines
residents
that
just
need
a
secondary
space
that
feels
like
home
that
they
can
use.
AP
Since
it's
our
primary
source
of
income,
we
made
sure
that
we
invested
in
noise
alert
noise
alert
lets
me
know
if
there's
a
specific
decibel
of
noise
in
our
unit.
We
get
an
alert
for
that.
It
also
tells
me
how
many
cell
phones
are
in
my
unit.
So
if
you
have
people
that
are
there
and
let's
say
it's
only
supposed
to
be
a
couple,
I
would
get
a
notification.
If
six
cell
phones
are
in
the
unit
I
can
then
text
call
or
show
up
air
B&B
policy?
AP
Is
you
have
to
list
every
person
that's
going
to
be
staying
in
the
unit
and
they
can
be
removed
for
this?
In
fact,
that
they've
wrote
the
policy
issue.
I
also
make
sure
that
there's
no
parties
in
the
unit,
but
because
of
their
primary
source
of
income,
I've
gone
above
and
beyond
and
made
the
investment
so
that
we
don't
have
a
problem
so
that
these
issues
don't
come
up
and
I
can
continue
to
work
from
home.
R
AQ
Good
evening
my
name
is
Timothy
Mohammed
at
1303
College
Avenue
I'm,
not
anybody
who
owns
an
Airbnb
I'm,
just
somebody
who
uses
it
frequently.
Every
Airbnb
that
I've
ever
gone
to
has
been
nothing
less
than
flawless.
There's
been
nothing
broken.
There's
been
nothing
even
out
of
order,
not
even
so
much
as
a
bad
scent
in
the
air
even
to
when
I've
gone
to
neighborhoods
with
a
neighborhood
itself
looks
a
little
skeptical
and
a
little
scary
by
the
time
I
get
in
I'm.
AQ
Putting
at
peace
and
I
feel
like
I'm
able
to
sleep
there
when
it
comes
to
the
reasons
why
I'm
using
Airbnb
I'm,
not
traveling
to
these
places
with
the
sole
purpose
of
staying
at
somebody's
house,
I've
got
things.
I've
got
to
do
so,
I'm,
not
even
spending
a
whole
lot
of
time
at
somebody's
house.
The
only
reason
why
I'm
there
it's
to
sleep,
I
haven't
been
there
to
throw
parties
because,
like
people
have
said
before,
you're
going
into
somebody's
house,
I'd
be
more
inclined
to
go
to
a
hotel.
AQ
Then,
if
somebody's
house
to
throw
a
party
because
there's
a
lot
less
things
and
I'd
like
to
be
responsible
for
and
when
it
comes
to,
you
know
people
saying
that
there's
trash
or
things
that
are
disorderly
I'd,
like
you
know,
somebody
to
notify
me
in
the
future
and
take
this
much
effort,
because
I
pay
for
cleaning
fees
just
to
be
able
to
stay
there.
Even
when
it
came
to
I,
was
just
in
an
air
B&B.
AQ
Excuse
me
I,
get
a
little
nervous
on
him
speaking
in
public
in
the
past,
even
when
I
have
been
at
places
where
the
actual
people
weren't
there
they've
always
had
security
systems
in
order
to
monitor
the
place,
whether
it
was
outside
or
in
select
places
on
the
inside
of
the
property.
In
order
to
make
sure
things
were
going.
Well
and
properly
and
like
the
lady
said
before,
if
anything
seems
off
key,
you
get
that
phone
call.
AQ
People
I
was
one
of
the
members
here
in
support
of
bat,
brat,
Padre,
but
I
know
some
people
who
have
Airbnb
and
they've
had
more
issues
when
it
comes
to
the
neighbors
next
door
that
all
their
homes,
because
they
have
a
sense
of
entitlement
and
don't
have
to
worry
about
being
in
somebody's
home
and
getting
kicked
out
and
so
I
wanted
to
go
ahead
and
show
my
support
and
come
my
parents
speak.
Thank
you
very
much.
AR
Hi
there
I'm
seaneen
Linton
I,
live
at
1503
Center
Street
in
Des
Moines
in
Sherman
Hill,
my
husband
David
spoke
earlier.
I,
don't
usually
speak,
but
after
listening,
everything
I
felt
compelled
a
lot
of
things.
I've
noticed
tonight
find
it
interesting
that
people
live
in
West,
Des
Moines,
but
air
B&B
in
Des
Moines
makes
me
really
wonder
about
West,
Des
Moines
and
what's
going
on
over
there,
I
didn't
have
any
idea
about
that.
AR
AR
AR
It's
not
balanced,
and
you
know
we
pay
for
our
duplex,
which
is
actually
a
double
house.
So
it's
it's
what's
built
that
way.
Almost
140
years
old
we've
lived
in
Sherman
Hill
since
1998,
but
we're
paying
commercial
insurance
for
that
duplex,
which
is
three
thousand
dollars
a
year.
So
I
hear
people
saying
they
have
insurance
and
everything,
but
you
know
if
this
is
really
going
to
be
a
business
consideration,
it
needs
to
be
commercial
insurance
and
I'm
sure
if
they
were
paying
commercial
rates
for
short-term
rentals,
the
cost
might
be
a
little
bit
different
there.
AR
AR
I
feel
that
this
ordinance
as
it
stands
should
not
be
approved,
and
my
last
comment
is
that
I'm
sure
the
council,
over
the
years,
you
see
a
million
people,
show
up
for
an
issue
that
probably
tells
you
that
there
needs
to
be
some
more
work
done
on
this,
and
I
would
appreciate
it
if
there
was
more
work
done
on
it
and
and
we
could
reach
some
sort
of
a
compromise.
If
that's
what
we
decide
to
do
and
be
different
than
West
Des
Moines,
but
that's
the
ordinance
stands
I'm,
not
in
favor
of
it.
Thank
you.
F
Hello,
my
name
is
Rachel
ingen
I
live
at
829,
16th,
Street
and
Sherman
Hill.
This
is
my
son
Winston.
Thank
you
for
letting
us
speak.
I
just
want
to
say
my
husband
and
I
were
very
pro-business
and
we
live
in
Des
Moines.
We
owned
rental
property
in
downtown
Des
Moines
and
of
all
the
wonderful
B&B,
Airbnb
and
long-term
rental
short
term
rental
advocates
who
come
here
tonight
and
said
I.
Do
this
properly
I'm
a
respectful,
neighbor
I
think
anyone
would
say
that
those
people
are
welcome
in
our
neighborhoods.
F
What
I'm
worried
about
is
the
long
term
welfare
of
my
son
that
he's
able
to
sleep
at
night,
but
he
has
a
community
in
his
neighborhood
that
he
has
other
families
as
resources.
I,
don't
expect
an
international
multinational
corporation
to
look
after
the
best
interests
of
my
son.
I
expect
my
elected
representatives
to
look
after
the
best
interest
of
my
son
and
my
family.
F
The
thing
that
I
would
ask
for
is
just
a
quick
and,
and
public
and
official
way
for
us
to
as
neighbors
who
might
happen
to
live
next
to
an
Airbnb
be
able
to
get
rid
of
the
bad
actors
right
because
I
think,
like
everyone
agrees,
most
Arabi.
Amis
are
great,
but
there
are
those
were
turned
into
party
houses
that
are
misused
that
are
mismanaged
and
I
would
like.
F
Not
just
rely
on
Airbnb
to
deal
with
that
and
in
my
neighborhood
I'd,
like
my
representatives,
to
show
me
a
way
that
we
can
deal
with
those
bad
actors
right
and
I.
Don't
really
see
that,
and
this
ordinance
and
I
also
think
that
ten
years
is
a
long
time,
because
ten
years
is
over.
Half
of
my
son's
life
living
in
our
house
right
and
I
want
him
to
be
able
again
to
grow
up
healthy
and
be
able
to
sleep
and
not
have
issues
right
with
people
in
our
neighborhood.
F
AS
Q
AS
Live
at
208,
Latona
Avenue,
my
name
is
Karl
Wilkinson
I
disagree
on
holding
off
on
the
voting
and
doing
more
work
on
this,
because
I've
taken
off
work
a
couple
times
to
come
to
these
meetings
and
as
we
were
asked
before,
to
get
the
line
stopped
filled
up.
I
agree
with
that
sentiment.
There
were
standing
room
only
in
here,
because
people
are
trying
to
come
and
get
involved
in
city
politics
and
say:
hey
I
got
a
vested
interest
in
this
and
I've
done
that
twice
now.
AS
So
I
would
like
to
not
come
back
to
these
meetings
and
just
say
for
this
amendment.
As
someone
who
works
doing
contract
labor
for
air
B&B,
that's
a
significant
portion
of
my
income
and
I
represent
a
lot
of
people
who
couldn't
take
off
to
come
here
today
and
a
lot
of
the
Airbnb
managers
brought
those
their
employees
up
as
well.
They're
talking
about
me
and
others
like
me
that
please
don't
take
my
paycheck
away.
I
also
have
another
quick
question
for
mr.
Mandelbaum.
AS
A
Yeah,
that's
transload.
That
particular
thing.
Actually,
that's
like
a
fourth
cousin
once-removed,
but
I
didn't
want
the
appearance
of
it
because
we
share
the
same
name.
My
name
was
Jones
or
whatever
I
mean
I
am
that's
that's
the
reason
I
did
that
I
really
have
no
benefit
one
way
or
the
other
from
it
other
than
the
fact
that,
hopefully,
if
they
make
it
happen,
it'll
improve
things
in
Des,
Moines
and
I
love
that
yeah.
AS
R
AS
Interest
here,
okay,
I've
I'll,
just
say
on
my
and
then
just
representing
my
opinion,
I
disagree,
I,
think
your
family
benefiting
financially
from
people
coming
in
and
renting
short
term
day
or
two
in
hotels
like
they.
What
at
Airbnb
z--
means
that
you
guys
are
in
competing
industries,
so
you
should
recuse
yourself,
that's
my
opinion
on
the
matter
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
I
appreciate
it
all.
A
M
M
Of
all
I'm
going
to
say,
I'm,
not
against
short-term
rentals
I,
don't
believe
that
this
fits
everything
that
we
need
to
do
for
the
neighborhoods,
and
some
consideration
should
be
taken
in
different
forms,
I'm
concerned
about
how
our
staffs
even
going
to
be
handling
it.
When
you
start
doing
yearly
structures,
I
would
like
to
get
more
information
on
some
of
that.
M
Just
simply
put
in
ordinance.
We've
got
to
make
sure
we
can
actually
apply
that
ordinance
and
I.
Just
think
that
some
concerns
have
been
brought
up
or
legitimate
and
some
concerns,
maybe
your
overblown
who
knows,
but
this
is
for
what
we
are
going
forward
with.
There's
definitely
I
know
all
kinds
of
people
that
love
staying
in
short-term
rentals.
M
My
daddy
actually
owns
one
in
Atlanta,
but
I
think
we
have
to
be
cognizant
that,
just
because
we
like
stay
in
there
doesn't
mean
that
you,
like
it
next
door
to
you,
having
people
come
in
and
go
out
so
I
just
think.
We
need
to
look
at
the
density.
I
know
we're
not
San
Francisco,
we're
not
Chicago,
but
this
is
our
one
time
to
get
it
right
and
I
believe
a
lot
of
our
suburban
neighborhoods
are
suburban.
M
Cities
are
also
looking
at
us
to
see
what
we
are
going
to
pass
because
I
think
they're
looking
to
what
they
need
to
do
again.
This
is
relatively
new
phenomena.
I
mean
everybody's,
been
operating
under
the
radar,
so
now
we're
just
trying
to
bring
it
into
compliance
of
some
form
and
I
think
the
right
now
I
don't
know
if
I
feel
that
we
are
hitting
the
mark
100%.
So
I
will
pass
this
off
to
any
of
my
other
fellow
members
to
speak
on.
R
Well,
I'm
happy
to
speak,
I
appreciate
everyone
who's
taking
the
time
here.
I
think
this
has
been
an
important
discussion.
I
know
it's
been
a
long
discussion.
I
think
these
are
challenging
issues
particularly
to
get
the
balance
right
and
I.
Think
that's
what
we
want
to
do
here.
I,
don't
think
anyone
up
here
is
going
to
say
they're
against
short-term
rentals
I
think
we
all
want
to
see
the
option
of
short-term
rentals
in
our
community,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
get
the
balance
right.
R
R
R
Those
are
all
positive
pieces
that
we
want
I
think
to
continue
to
allow,
but
we
want
to
give
the
neighborhood's
some
say
and
some
control
I
think
we
also
want
to
be
mindful
of
the
impact
on
our
overall
housing
and
what
it
does
you
know.
There's
there
have
been
questions
about
the
impact
on
the
cost
of
rental
housing
and
affordable
housing
and
I.
R
R
You
know
I
was
told
we
don't
have
to
worry
about
the
density
requirement,
but
I
think
some
of
the
neighborhoods
that
are
perhaps
even
most
desirable
for
Airbnb
do
have
to
worry
about
about
that,
and
some
of
what
is
positive
about
Airbnb
is.
Is
it
encourages
investments
all
across
the
city?
If
you
don't
have
that
density
requirement,
I,
don't
think
you're
gonna
get
some
of
the
benefit
that
you
can
out
of
welcoming
Airbnb.
So
you
lose
the
protection.
R
R
So
there's
the
density
piece
in
some
places
we're
going
to
talk
about
it
like
this
or
people
didn't,
but
there's
been
talk
of
a
buffer,
so
density
would
be
the
number
in
surrounding
blocks,
but
a
buffer
would
be
a
space
between
between
the
two.
So
it's
it's
slightly
different.
You
could
meet
buffer
requirements
and
still
fail
a
density
requirement,
but,
for
example,
I
think
the
500
foot
or
a
thousand
foot
buffer
was
talked
about.
I
would
be
supportive
of
considering
a
buffer
like
that
and
think
that's
worth
considering,
as
well
as
the
the
density
piece.
R
I've
also
heard
from
folks
that
they
want
a
clearer
process
than
what
we
have
to
address
issues
when
there
are
problems.
I
think
it
was
Rachel
who
was
one
of
the
last
people
who
spoke
about
wanting
a
clear
path
to
address
bad
actors
and
I.
Do
not
think
we
have
that
here
now
we
talked
about,
you
can
go
back
to
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustment,
but
we
have
no
idea
how
long
that
process
is
going
to
take.
Not
only
do
we
have
no
idea
how
long
that
process
is
going
to
take.
R
You
know
a
two-thirds
majority
vote
by
the
Zoning
Board
of
Adjustment
to
allow
an
airbnb
it
I,
don't
know
what
that
threshold
is
if
they
have
to
hit
50%
of
neighboring
properties
object,
that's
sort
of
equivalent
to
the
opt-out
that
I
think
people
had
asked
for,
but
set
it
at
a
threshold.
That
is
sufficient,
that
you
have
a
good
sense
that
the
neighbors
are
expressing
concern.
Those
are
some
of
the
things
that
I
think
we
need
to
look
at
to
get
this
balance
right.
R
T
M
T
J
Go
back
to
the
Board
of
Adjustment
every
year.
Conditional
use
permit
is
granted
one
time
unless
you
lose
it,
and
we
talked
about
at
our
work
study.
There
was
a
few
of
us
that
agreed
to
ten
years
that
we
would
allow
that,
but
it
would
be,
it
would
be
inspected
by
a
rental
inspector
on
an
annual
basis,
annual
yeah.
Okay,
that's
how
okay.
A
So
as
I
understand
it,
what
we're
doing
here,
if,
if,
if
we
all
agree
that
we
need
to
sort
out
the
the
balance
of
these
suggestions,
that
we
probably
continue,
this
is
hearing
and
then
take
into
consideration
all
the
suggestions
that
come
out
for
this
table
and
probably
consider
the
all.
The
pluses
and
minuses
that
have
come
out
of
our
citizenry
this
evening
and
we
need
to
have
another
work
session,
sounds
to
me.
B
A
J
G
G
D
G
J
J
You
know
we're
trying
to
revitalize
our
neighborhoods
we're
trying
to
do
do
those
things
and
use
a
lot
of
different
tools
to
do
it,
not
just
City
money
to
do
it.
We
need
private
dollars
in
there.
You
know,
but
we
need
to
have
a
balance.
There
was
some
questions
drawn
tonight
that
we
need
to
answer
part
of
it.
Councilwoman
bows
them.
How
are
we
going
to
pay
for
the
for
the
rental
inspections
ansel
annually?
Our
city
manager
needs
to
come
up
with
that.
That
needs
to
be
part
of
the
fees
that
you're
gonna
pay
annually.
J
If
there's
400
homes-
and
you
know
it
was
$500
that
you
guys
are
gonna
pay,
that's
$200,000
at
an
inspector
of
$100,000,
that's
two
extra
inspectors,
but
I'll.
Let
him
do
that
type
of
math
and
those
type
of
calculations.
I
think
that's
something
that
we
can
that
we
can
get
to
the
density
requirement
for
the
neighborhoods.
You
know
we
can.
We
can
put
in
some
density
requirement
the
markets,
gonna
weigh
itself
out,
I
mean
nobody's
gonna,
go
in.
J
Nobody's
gonna
go
into
a
neighborhood
and
buy
the
whole
neighborhood.
That's
just
not
going
to
happen.
That's
so.
If
we
put
a
density
requirement
in
there
to
make
everybody
feel
good,
that's
sitting
up
here
and
the
ten
people
that
came
and
spoke
against
it.
Okay,
we
can
put
a
density
requirement
in
there
in
parts
of
the
ward
that
I
went,
represent.
J
I
wish
that
you
would
come
and
do
the
entire
street
to
be
honest
with
you
and
fix
them
all
up,
because
short-term
rental
work,
they're
people
giving
reviews,
and
it's
always
under
scrutiny
and
you're
able
to
see
what's
going
on
and
the
people
that
are
ready
compared
to
someone.
That's
there
that
you
gotta
live
with
that
they
Park
all
over,
and
we
can
do
nothing
because
I
deal
with
it
every
single
day,
and
you
know
what,
if
I
had
somebody
to
call
if
I
had
somebody
to
call,
they
was
able
to
do
something
like
that.
J
That
would
be
very
helpful.
The
buffer
unit,
yeah
I,
mean
the
500
feet
or
that
thousand
feet.
You
know
you
got
to
buy
one
out
of
every
four
houses.
Okay,
that's
probably
not
that
big
of
a
deal
threshold
of
the
neighboring
residents
concern
I.
Think
that's
overstretching
government,
in
my
opinion,
trying
to
get
two-thirds
of
the
vote
of
the
board
of
adjustments.
We've
never
required
anything
like
that.
I
think!
That's
a
little
I
think
that's
a
little
much
much!
But
hey
I'm!
Just
one
vote.
J
You
know
we
sometimes
government
likes
to
overstep
I'm,
not
that
person,
so
I
wouldn't
be
in
favor.
Of
that
a
conditional
use.
Permit
is
definitely
what
you
guys
need
to
have
and
I
understand.
The
threshold
people
asked
where
the
ten
years
came
from.
Well,
if
you're
gonna
invest
in
a
property
and
you're
gonna
go
put
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
into
it.
Not
a
lot
of
people
got
two
hundred
thousand
dollars
sitting
around,
so
you
got
to
go
to
a
bank
and
you
got
to
get
a
loan.
J
Not
many
banks
are
gonna,
give
you
a
loan
for
three
years
or
for
four
years.
Okay,
so
we
came
up
with
it.
We
came
up
with
it
at
a
workshop
that
everyone
was
invited
to
come
to,
and
we
said
10
years
there
was
four
of
us.
That
said,
10
years
there
was
others
that
said
seven
you
know
I
I,
guess
I'm,
not
gonna
I'm,
not
gonna,
make
a
big
deal
about
7
or
10
years,
but
that's
where
the
10
years
came
from
and
I
think
that's
a
legitimate
thing
for
any
banker.
For
anybody.
J
M
J
M
M
K
J
Sound
well,
we
will
have
it
on
the
agenda.
May
18th
and
then
we'll
have
a
workshop
in
April
I'm
sure
we're
going
to
talk
about
it
again
for
our
strategic
workshop.
We'll
spend
another
couple
hours
on
that
again
in
April
and
then
we
can.
Hopefully
everyone
can
stick
to
what
we
talked
about
and
then
we
can
have
a
legitimate
vote
and
everybody
can
come
and
speak
again
and
we'll
do
it
all
offer.
G
A
Also
I
just
want
to
thank
everybody
for
coming
down.
We
appreciate
citizen
input,
that's
why
we've
done
it
through
all
of
our
plans,
whether
its
plan
DSM
or
move
dsm
or
Lib
DSM.
Your
input
is
very
valuable
to
us
and
in
all
levels.
So
we
appreciate
all
of
it
and
we're
gonna
try
to
hopefully
put
something
together
that
I'm
sure
100%
of
you
won't
be
100%
satisfied
with,
but
hopefully
it
meets
the
needs
of
the
neighborhoods
and
meets
the
needs
of
those
interested
in
investing
in
our
city.
K
A
A
All
right,
let's
move
forward,
item
52,
so
those
of
you
who
are
waiting
for
that
one
we're
sorry
it
took
so
long
to
get
there
item
52
is
on
the
16th
Street
brick
repair
from
day
Street
Ascension
Street
resolution
through
the
plans,
specifications,
formal
contract
documents,
engineer's
estimate
receive
and
file
bids
and
designating
the
lowest
responsible
bidder.
His
Munir
hard
scape,
LLC,
Matthew
J
Milner
is
the
owner
two
hundred
and
fifty
nine
thousand
three
hundred
and
sixty
five
dollars.
Council
communication
number
twenty
dash:
zero.
R
A
A
A
D
J
I
A
I
think
the
Joe's
pointed
it's
interesting.
We
are
spending
a
lot
of
money
on
improving
and
upgrading
streets
and
neighborhoods
and
flood
control
all
across
the
city
and
every
single
week
we're
working
on
a
variety
of
aspects
around
all
that
improvement.
So
for
those
who
concerned
that
we
may
have
at
some
point
or
another
turned
our
back
on
the
city,
we
never
have
done
that
also.
A
All
right
item
54
on
the
2020
traffic
signal
replacement,
contract
to
resolving
approving
plans,
specifications
department,
contract
documents,
engineer
assessment
and
receive
and
file
beds,
and
designating
the
lowest
responsible
bitter
as
van
Menon,
Electric
Inc
Nathan
s
van
man
and
is
the
president
five
hundred
and
twelve
dollars.
Five
hundred
and
twelve
thousand
dollars.
624
counsel,
communication,
number
20-0,
8,
9
a
is
approval
of
the
contract
and
bond
and
permission
to
sublet
anybody
here.
To
speak
to
this
traffic
signal
replacement
contract
to
I
moved.
J
A
All
right
and
item
55
item
55
is
on
the
Reno
dog
park.
Improvements
is
a
resolution,
proven
plans,
specifications
form
of
contract
documents,
engineer's
estimate
receiving
filed
bids
and
designating
the
lowest
responsible
bidder
is
Berkeley,
Home,
Builders
Inc
doing
business
as
concrete
professionals.
Eric
Berkey
is
the
president
two
hundred
and
four
thousand
eight
hundred
and
seventy
three
thousand
fifty
six
cents.
Council
communication
number
twenty
dash,
zero,
eight
eight,
his
approval
of
contracting
bond
and
permission
to
sublet.
Anyone
here
to
speak
about
the
Reno
dog
park
just.
A
J
G
AE
A
You
are
takes
us
back
to
item
43,
which
was
the
first
item
after
consent.
It's
am
ending
chapter
1,
41,
hundredths,
1,
1/4
of
the
Fizbo
code
regarding
traffic
regulation
changes
as
follows:
counts
communication,
number,
20,
0,
95,
a
as
a
proposed
parking
restriction,
an
East
Market
Street
from
East
Fifth,
Street
and
East
6th
Street
B
is
removal
of
bus
loading
zone
at
East.
A
32Nd
Street
between
Cleveland
Avenue
in
Indianapolis,
Avenue
C
is
proposed
parking
restriction,
Bundy
Street
between
South
West
11th
Street
in
South,
West
13th,
Street
D
is
a
code
modification
to
allow
parking
on
the
south
side
of
Watson
Powell
jr.
way
between
5th
Avenue
and
6th
Avenue
E
is
a
code
modification
to
match
field
conditions
on
East
Walnut
Street
between
East,
sixth
and
East
14th
Street
F
is
a
proposal
to
allow
reserved
parking
for
the
criminal
courts
district
along
6th
Avenue
between
Cherry
Street
and
Mulberry,
Street
and
I.
Believe
that's
it.
Y
A
Item
44
is
setting
a
date
of
hearing
on
the
request
of
Hope
Ministries
Center
for
women
and
children.
Lien
Nagin
is
the
officer
to
amend
the
plan
DSM
creating
our
tomorrow
future
land
use
designation
and
to
rezone
3800
East
Douglas
Avenue
from
our
161
family,
low
density,
residential,
the
PUD
Planned
Unit
development
and
approve
the
PUD
conceptual
plan
to
allow
the
existing
church
building
to
be
converted
to
a
50
bed
short-term
program
and
a
50
bed.
A
AT
Through
any
more
comments,
so
I
will
give
you
the
receiving
file.
My
name
is
Beverly.
Dr.
I
live
at
4590,
North,
East,
38th
Avenue,
a
quarter-mile
from
the
church
and
all
I'm
gonna.
Take
your
time
to
do
is,
say,
there's
ninety
percent
of
the
residents
that
oppose
this
and
we'll
see
you
at
the
hearing
good
night
and
you
I
respect
it.
I've
never
been
through
this
before
and
I
respect.
You
guys
a
lot
good
night.
M
J
Mayor,
knowing
the
importance
of
this
and
I,
you
and
I
had
the
privilege
of
touring
this
facility,
actually
in
my
ward,
that
I've
served
for
six
years
and
never
knew
that.
I
had
this
in
my
ward,
I've
never
had
one
single
complaint:
I've
never
had
one
single
problem:
I
tore
their
entire
facility.
I
was
very
impressed
with
it.
T
J
T
G
AU
Good
evening,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
the
platform
to
speak
to
the
City
Council
mr.
mayor
and
staff
as
well.
I
apologize,
I
couldn't
make
the
council
meeting
that
this
was
pertaining
to
I
had
to
work
an
overnight
shift
at
the
Youth
Center.
As
the
mayor
said,
my
name
is
Jamie
Oliver
I
work
with
homeless
and
at-risk
youth,
downtown
and
I
also
serve
as
a
paralegal
in
the
Iowa
Army
National
Guard
I
bring
it
up
just
to
say
that
I'm
expressing
my
own
personal
opinions
and
not
the
opinions
of
the.
B
AU
AU
Speak
a
few
opinions
and
share
some
information
with
you
and
hope
that
we
can
start
a
dialogue.
I
noticed
that
there
was
a
commitment
to
pledging
certain
sum
of
money.
I
believe
it
was
25,000
dollars
to
play
surveillance
cameras
specifically
in
the
sky
walks.
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
a
few
important
facts
and
express
why
I
think
that
this
kind
of
sends
a
wrong
message.
AU
I
think
surveillance
cameras
typically
have
been
proven
to
reduce
crime
to
properties,
but
there
have
been
many
studies,
empirical
studies,
that
have
shown
that
in
fact
they
don't
actually
reduce
violent
crime.
So
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
that
those
inefficiencies
and
just
kind
of
later
on
I
can
provide
some
corroboration
and
information
for
the
Council
of
deem
necessary
backing
up
some
of
the
statements
I'm
making
as
well.
AU
Another
point
is
that
law
enforcement
have
engaged
whether
in
major
metropolitan
areas
or
in
cities
like
our
own,
have
engaged
that,
in
fact,
the
the
effectiveness
of
the
security
cameras
and
kind
of
corroborated.
Those
statements
that,
in
fact
that
oftentimes
they
do
not
combat
and
deter
violent
crime.
I.
B
AU
Been
able
to
speak
with
any
law
enforcement
officers
from
our
community
on
this
subject,
but
I
have
spoken
with
security
personnel
and
the
sky,
walks,
co-workers
and
other
private
business
owners,
and
this
guy
walks
talking
about
the
ineffectiveness
of
what
they're.
Anticipating
these
surveillance
cameras
will
provide
and.
B
AU
Instead
of
proactive
solutions
that
involve
coming
together
with
our
community
to
come
up
with
plans
where
we
can
engage
with
youth
and
youth
or
individuals
that
are
engaging
in
illicit
activities
in
these
areas
or
in
our
downtown
in
general,
and
find
ways
to
alleviate
whatever
situations
that
they've
come
to,
where
they're
either
participating
in
illicit
activities
or
even
finding
recreation
and
the
skywalks
themselves.
I.
AU
Think
the
issue
obviously
was
heightened
by
the
assault
in
early
October,
and
why
and
while
I
am
a
serious
proponent
for
justice
and
I'm
encouraging
you
know,
we,
you
know,
get
to
the
bottom
and
make
sure
that
we're
protecting
our
citizens
again.
I
refer
back
to
the
effectiveness
and
making
sure
we're
making
sure
we're
making
a
meaningful
investment
and
technology
or
in
personnel
by
either
changing
and
adapting
those
funds
towards
law
enforcement
or
some
other
sort
of
community
or
social
program.
AU
C
AU
By
no
means
I'm
asking
or
not
it
no
means
I'm
saying
that
we
shouldn't
seek
justice
for
those
committing
crimes
or
even
having
some
sort
of
punitive
response
to
those
I.
Just
think
that
we
could
be
spending
our
money
more
wisely
and
finding
a
better
way
to
engage
this
situation.
In
conclusion,
if
surveillance
cameras
have
been
shown
and
effective
in
deterrence
of
violent
crimes
but
effective
in
reducing
property
damage
shouldn't
the
responsibility
of
the
financial
investment
then
be
placed
on
the
private
companies
and
organizations
responsible
for
the
space
and
not
the
taxpayers.
AU
I,
think
that
the
message
behind
it
and
the
importance
of
our
public
safety,
the
community
partnerships
and
in
the
current
climate
of
the
skywalks,
the
businesses,
whether
they
be
a
public,
private
or
nonprofit
in
that
area,
is
just
very
disconnected
in
my
experience
and
I
think
that
we
owe
it
to
the
community
to
do
better
and
I
think
that
was
everything
I
needed
to
say
today
again
I.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
The
last
notion
I
make
is
I,
have
three
jobs
but
I'd
be
willing
to
volunteer
to
head
an
exploratory
committee
if
deemed
necessary.
A
Kymmie
preciate
it
in
before
you
leave.
Thank
you
for
your
service,
appreciate
it
very
much,
and
thank
you
for
your
ideas.
I
want
you
to
know
that
we
are
trying
to
look
at
every
aspect
of
violence
and
unfortunate
illegal
activity.
That's
occurring,
and
how
do
we
engage
citizens,
young
people
to
make
the
right
moves?
A
I
believe
it's
all
of
us
that
have
to
work
together
and
we
are
again
pulling
together
a
very
broad
base
that
is
in
input
to
work
with
those
of
us
at
the
public
level,
even
bringing
in
the
Des
Moines
Public
Schools,
and
the
faith-based
community.
Neighborhood
leaders
I
think
it's
all
of
us
that
have
to
look
together
to
see
what
we
can
do
to
make
a
better
experience
for
our
young
people
and
some
of
those
activities.
I
think
that
you
mentioned
there
that
are
positive.
Yeah
would
go
a
long
way
to
helping
that
I.
A
Think
that
that's
what
we're
trying
to
get
our
arms
around,
because
Des
Moines
really
through
the
years,
has
been
a
great
place
to
live.
It's
beauty
speaking
is
a
very
safe
place,
but
there's
incidents
that
that
occur.
That
really
are
shocking.
Yeah,
and
so
we
have
to
you,
know,
get
our
arms
around
it.
I
don't
know
if
the
chief
wants
to
make
a
quick
comment
about
cameras,
but
again
I
think
that's
a.
A
A
piece
of
a
multi-faceted
approach
to
trying
to
deal
with
it
and
I
know
that
we've
worked
with
downtown
businesses.
We
worked
with
dart,
we've
worked
with
polk
county
and
our
police
departments
that
we're
all
working
at
it,
and
you
might
also
want
to
mention
if
there
was
a
positive
effect
of
putting
those
cameras
up,
for
instance,
around
the
corner,
to
have
a
new
district.
What
might
have
happened
over
there
in
what
our
experience
has
been
chief,
if.
AU
I
may
make
one
comment
before
the
chief
serves
I'd
be
remiss
to
not
just
mention
like
a
recent
incident.
I've
had
great
engagements,
either
personally
and
professionally
downtown,
with
law
enforcement
we
working
at
a
youth
center.
We
have
unfortunate
frequent
engagement
with
law
enforcement
and
working
great
partnership
with
our
health
system
as
well,
but
because
of
private
organizations,
including
rental
properties
and
private
security.
We've
had
multiple
incidents
where
my
clients
of
rights
have
been
violated
and
they've
been
asked
to
leave
a
space
that
they
did
not
have
to
leave
and
now
I.
AU
It's
really
important
to
make
sure
that
a
people's
rights
aren't
being
violated,
but
also
that
great
nonprofits,
like
the
one
that
I
work
at
or
other
services
that
are
being
provided
downtown,
whether
it
be
public
like
the
court
systems
that
people
be
allowed
to
also
have
recreational
space
in
a
public
space
that
is
intended
for
citizens
and
I
just
wanted
to
come
and
speak
and
share
those
opinions.
Yeah.
AV
Mr.
mayor
mr.
manager,
members
of
the
Council
Dana
Wingert
Chief
of
Police,
first
of
all,
I'd
like
to
go
on
record
as
saying
thank
you
for
what
you
do
down
there.
They
do
great
work
down
at
the
Iowa
homeless,
youth,
shelter
and
we've
been
able
to
partner
with
them
in
the
past.
What
we're
talking
about
in
the
sky?
Those
generally
speaking,
are
not
clients
of
the
Iowa
homeless,
youth,
shelter.
They
provide
the
structure
and
the
education
that
needs
to
be
in
place
for
what
they
do.
AV
The
incident
we
keep
talking
about
the
incident
on
the
Skywalk
okay,
well,
there's
been
multiple
incidents
on
the
Skywalk.
There's
only
been
a
handful
that
have
made
the
news
and
just
for
clarification
purposes.
The
city
is
responsible
for
all
the
bridges
in
the
Skywalk,
that
is
city
property,
so
that
falls
under
my
purview.
The
private
security.
That's
been
hired
up
there
that
was
hired
by
the
Skywalk
Association.
That
is
not
under
my
purview
for
better
for
worse.
AV
It's
obvious
what
they
are
they're
placed
strategically,
so
people
see
them
and
it
does
change.
Behavior
we've
had
success
down
there.
The
expectation
of
privacy
and
skywalk
is
such
that
if
you're
there
for
legitimate
business
and
legitimate
purposes,
you're
gonna
have
no
issues
if
you're
there
to
commit
crimes,
particularly
violent
crimes.
We're
gonna
use
that
system
to
follow
up
on
it.
It's
not
gonna
be
a
closed
system.
It's
gonna
be
open
to
the
public.
Anybody
can
look
at
it,
it'll
be
web-based
anybody
similar
to
court
Avenue.
AV
You
can
pull
it
up
right
now
and
see
what's
going
on
on
court
Avenue,
but
much
like
your
other
areas
of
our
city.
Private
businesses
do
have
their
own
security
down
there.
We're
just
going
to
enhance
the
system.
That's
down
there
camp
on
to
what's
already
available
and
enhance
the
security
in
the
Skywalk
it'll
be
used
for
follow-up
purposes
and
it's
been
proven
to
be
highly
effective.
R
But
I
want
to
thank
the
chief
for
his
efforts
on
this
in
the
discussions
around
around
this.
You
know
the
security
piece
is
something
we
all
take
take
seriously.
I
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
the
Skywalk.
Some
of
you
may
even
know
that
I've
started
doing
walking,
meetings
and
the
sky
walks
all
all
walk
laps.
Just
because
one
of
the
things
is
the
community
peace
eyes
on
the
street,
seeing
just
seeing
who
I
feel
very
comfortable
there
I
take
my
family
there
I
it's
a
great
community
asset
and
I
realized.
R
We
need
to
constantly
be
striving
and
working
towards
keeping
our
community
safe
and
that
this
is
a
piece
of
it
and
I
know
Chief,
but
you
spent
a
lot
of
time
thinking
about
this
and
how
we
work
with
the
downtown
or
the
Skywalk
Association
and
getting
the
balance
right.
I
want
to,
in
particular
thank
Jamie
for
coming
here
today.
R
R
This
took
me
kind
of
full
circle,
because
the
chief
and
I
spent
part
of
an
evening
last
week
will
keeps
organization
starts
right
here,
he's
trying
to
build
a
community
space
I
to
provide
alternatives
for
youth
in
our
community
near
downtown
and
he
needs
support,
and
that
was
something
that
was
on
my
list
to
talk
to
council
about,
but
maybe
it's
almost
a
fitting
bookend,
the
twenty
five
thousand
and
surveillance.
Maybe
we
should
look
at
providing
some
support
to
help
get
that
organization
off
the
ground.
R
I
think
the
chief
is
a
believer
in
what
he's
trying
to
do
and
and
would
gladly
vouch
for
him,
and
that's
maybe
a
nice
way
to
provide
some
balance
and
talk
about
this
community-based
approach.
To
do
this
as
well.
I,
don't
know
if
you
want
to
achieve
add
anything
about
what
will
is
doing
and
how
it
works
with
your
department,
yeah.
AV
But
it's
one
of
those
community
entities
that
we
have
that
we
need
to
take
advantage
of
and
use
use
them
all
the
skills
that
he
brings
to
the
table
that
we
don't
have.
But
there's
there's
a
lot
of
them
out
there.
He
simply
wanted
them.
He
just
happens
to
have
a
unique
spot
in
the
downtown
area
that
is
accessible
on
the
bus
line
and
it
might
be
an
alternative
for
some
of
the
issues
that
we
see
in
the
Skywalk.
So
just
something
to
keep
in
mind
and
probably
have
additional
conversation
later
on.