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From YouTube: 6-18-20 Plan & Zoning Commission
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Des Moines Plan & Zoning Commission meeting via teleconference on Thursday, June 18, 2020.
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A
A
Appliances,
matters
before
the
other:
this
site
plans,
subsidy,
spot,
I,
love
denials
or
conditional
approval
thereof.
Our
keel,
please
contact
the
City,
Clerk's
unity,
Development
Department
staff
at
five,
one,
five,
six,
eight,
nine,
four,
eight
five,
four
you
killed
less
awful
urine.
The
applicant
will
be
given
ten
minutes
without
the
request.
The
battle
can
switch
the
care
material
not
already
submitted
with
the
application.
Please
emailed
us
planning
a
DM
go
dot
org,
so
it's
baffles
may
be
able
to
care
them
all
this
point
weights.
It
does
proponents.
A
The
public
are
then
allowed
taking
that
order.
With
each
speaker
allowed
a
maximum
of
five
Senate
staff
has
attempted
to
compile
a
list
of
people
who
would
like
to
speak
on
each
item,
baffle
first
on
people
and
we'll
open
it
up
to
anyone
else.
Who
wishes
to
see
the
request?
The
speaker's
meeting.
Please
use
the
phrase.
Santa
assume
the
internet
or
dial
star
sign
on
your
phone
will
be
required
to
give
your
name
and
address
for
the
reporting
priority.
A
A
The
hearing
will
that
be
closed
and
a
commission
will
discuss
both
of
you
items
listed
on
backwards
against
a
success
and
will
be
considered
for
google
importance
with
the
recommendation
staff
report
and
the
individuals
present
ever
request
that
the
item
be
removed,
I
considered
separately,
other
the
public
area.
Yes,
the
city
of
the
point:
please
provide
accommodation,
filter,
food
with
disability
and
participate
City.
Seven.
Please
know
that
typical
accommodation
limited
by
first
requirement,
as
issued
by
the
state
of
Iowa
and
the
City
of
the
what
Tyler
do
we
have
a
quorum?
Oh.
A
A
B
A
B
B
B
A
E
A
A
F
B
A
A
B
A
D
D
This
is
a
photograph
of
the
kind
of
northern
edge.
Actually,
you
can
see
most
of
the
property
here
in
the
building
to
the
south,
and
advantage
of
the
left-hand
side
of
the
picture
would
be
the
north
end,
the
frontage
road
view.
This
is
kind
of
southern
end,
looking
back
towards
the
north,
and
then
that
would
be
the
northwest
corner.
Looking
back
over
the
site
to
the
south
and
to
the
east,
go
ahead
and
walk
us
through
the
site
plan.
D
I,
just
demolition,
existing
conditions
see
it's
a
410
at
bay
building
proposed
surface
parking
around
under
the
building,
I
have
been
barred,
dumpster
enclosure
southwest.
Excuse
me
southeast
corner
of
the
site.
You
can
see
you
can
tell
from
looking
at
the
aerial.
You
notice
that
the
property
extends.
G
G
I'm
just
gonna
flip
through
these
until
we
get
to
the
architecture.
Let
me
know
if
there's
any
questions
on
the
site
plan.
Do
I
stop
look
at
I.
Guess
I
will
pause
here
for
a
second.
This
is
the
landscaping
plan.
You
can
see
the
different
plant
material,
that's
required,
including
the
buffering
where
plantings
are
required
along
the
residential
lots
to
the
southwest.
G
G
D
D
So
they
on
me
is
a.
Let
me
take
a
step
back.
You
know,
with
our
new
ordinance
new
zoning
code
and
new
planning
and
design
ordinance
site
plans
are
administrative
process
unless
there's
something
that
a
standard
that
I
cannot
be
approved
by
that
we
didn't
be
match
a
variation
or
a
design
alternative.
So
what
the
focus
of
the
plan?
Zoning
Commission's
review
tonight
is
really
four
items:
the
EC's,
a
b
c
and
d
b,
the
site
in
general,
developing
and
commercially
zoned
appropriately.
A
lot
of
the
you
know:
there's
adequate
parking,
stormwater,
all
those
things.
D
G
So
it's
on
the
opposite
side
of
the
frontage
road,
so
you
can
see
if
the
was
having
a
friends
road
on
private
property,
it
does
make
it
impractical
to
comply
with
that
standard.
The
next
is
a
storefront
building
and
the
zoning
district,
which
would
not
allow
to
have
parking
in
front
of
the
building
and
they're
proposing
I,
could
share
their
parking,
take
place
between
the
building
and
the
frontage
road.
So
that's
something
that
commission
would
have
to
prove
in
order
for
its
place.
G
The
second
or
excuse
me
part
see
it
has
to
do
with
access
drives
chapter
135,
with
limit
a
site
like
this
to
one
access
drive
with
their
layout.
They
are
proposing
to
off
the
front
road
and
then
last
is
the
metal
material
on
the
building
looted
to
that,
when
I
show
you
the
elevations
that
they're
they're
proposing
a
higher
or
more
of
that
material
that
it's
allowed
and
they're
also
showing
it
going
down
to
grade
in
the
staff
report,
we
include
all
the
criteria
for
offering
up
type
2
design
alternatives.
G
G
I'll
go
ahead
and
read
through
the
conditions
of
approval,
don't
match
up
with
what
exact
you
know
a
precisely
what
they're
proposing,
but
we
do
think
there
is
a
need
for
some
type
to
relief,
so
we
are
recommending
fruit
of
all
subject
to
the
building
being
placed
in
close
proximity
to
the
frontage
road.
This
could
be
done
whether
it's
in
two
different
fashions
one
would
be
place
in
the
building.
G
So
it's
orange
towards
the
South
kind
of
like
the
tire
shop
to
the
north
and
I
have
the
damage
that
I'll
show
you
I,
so
the
building
would
the
storefronts
would
face
south
in
the
the
parking
we
all
take
place,
the
south,
so
the
building
would
set
more
and
that
would
be
the
northwest
corner
at
the
side.
Another
alternative
would
be
to
place
the
building
close
to
the
keypad
orient
the
way
it
is,
but
pull
it
up
towards
the
frontage
road,
but
allow
some
parallel
parking
between
the
building
and
the
fringe
row.
G
So
treating
the
fringe
road
like
a
street
with
on
street
parking
and
that's
what
condition
number
one
is
getting
that
and
it
just
goes
in
talks
a
little
bit
about
you
know
if
the
parallel
parking
could
be
constructed
between
the
building.
If
it's
haunted
that
way
and
then
there's
some
discussion
about
orient
the
building
the
other
direction
and
not
having
parking
extend
further
west
and
the
building
number
two
is
review
and
approval
of
the
finalized
building
placement
parking
layout
by
the
plan
administrator,
we
would
work
with
them
if
this
these
conditions
were
adopted.
G
For
that
you
know,
let
them
look
at
those
two
options.
Maybe
there's
a
third
option
that
we
could
support,
but
we
hadn't
thought
of
and
sort
that
out.
Number
three
is
provision
of
masonry
or
concrete
siding
for
the
bottom
two
feet
of
the
sides
and
rear
facade
on
that
we
can
were
supportive
of
the
metal
material
exceeding
the
60%
standard,
so
they're
proposing
a
higher
amount
of
metal,
siding
we're
supportive
of
that,
but
we
we
believe
that
there
needs
to
be
a
durable
material
and
that
bottom
two
feet.
G
So
that's
what
condition
three
gets
at
four
is
the
provision
of
a
pedestrian
route
from
the
building
to
South,
East,
14th,
Street,
sidewalk,
satisfaction,
traitor,
other
side
plank
currently
doesn't
provide
for
pedestrian
connection
to
the
public
side
block
along
South
East,
14th
Street.
We
believe
that
that's
we
recognize.
There's
some
grade
things
to
take
care
of,
but
we
believe
it's
achievable
and
should
be
provided
by
his
removal
of
an
unused
drive
approach
to
Southeast
14th.
G
This
is
and
restoring
to
the
pride
way,
that's
a
standard
condition
that
you
see
on
site
plans
a
lot
just
cleaning
up
the
site,
and
then
six
is
revision
of
the
site
plan
of
building
elevations
to
comply
with
all
administrative
review.
Colin.
That's
just
Android
language
we'd
offer
on
anything
that
comes
before
you.
G
This
is
a
graphic
that
was
provided
by
the
applicant
to
show
develop
and
how
they're
holding
since
you
know
it
is
their
preference
to
you
know
we're
here
tonight
because
know
they
need
relief
and
and
we're
offering
up
something
slightly
different
than
them.
They
they
still
are
wishing
to
move
forward
with
the
project
as
proposed
it
with
regard
to
the
building
placement
I'll.
Let
them
go
in
to
have
the
detail
why
the
centers
around
grading-
and
you
know
this-
is
the
probably
the
most
efficient
way
or
the
least
amount
of
grading
to
develop
the
site.
G
We
don't
dispute
that
you
know
doing
it
arranging
the
site
in
the
fashion
that
we're
proposing
would
have
more
grading
to
it,
but
we
think
it's
worth
worth
the
effort
to
try
to
achieve
what
we're
trying
to
achieve
with
the
new
standards
and
I.
Think
if
you
look
at
the
development
to
the
north,
you'll
see
that
that
worked
on
this
site
now
building
frames
the
frontage
road
as
if
it
was
a
street
and
then
even
as
you
work
further
north,
you
can
see
how
those
buildings
are
up
site
as
well.
G
There
is
this
building
is
set
back
a
little
bit
to
the
south.
It's
still
not
set
as
far
back
as
what
they're
proposing
and
then
QTE
to
even
further
south,
be
fairly
in
line
with
it.
So
I'm
going
to
show
you
this
graphic
and
we
can
circle
back
to
this.
If
the
applicant
would
like
to
have
you
look
at
it
again,
we
sent
out
notice
cards
to
everybody
within
250
feet.
We
have
been
contacted
by
a
couple
of
neighbors
on
South
East
15th
Street
via
email,
but
we
did
not
receive
anything
in
writing.
G
G
Let
me
go
back
to
this.
Neighbor
here
has
an
easement
that
their
driveway
actually
is
on
the
applicants
property
and
they
were
concerned
that
the
development
would
impact
that
so
I
did
provide
them
a
copy
to
site
plan
and
we
were
able
to
resolve
that
that
they
are
showing
that
driveway
stays
in
place.
G
I
think
they
also
had
some
questions
about
stormwater
I
did
put
them
in
touch
with,
with
the
applicants
engineer,
so
they've
been
corresponding
directly
I
think
he's
resolved
their
questions,
and
then
we
were
also
contacted
I,
believe
it
is
this
property
owner
about
a
desire
to
make
sure,
there's
fencing
and
buffering.
They
asked
about
an
8
foot
tall
fence.
Our
code
only
requires
a
six
foot
tall
fence,
along
with
the
landscaping
buffering.
I
I
As
Jason
highlighted
in
the
first
harvest
presentation,
the
site
is
not
the
easiest
site
to
develop
from
a
commercial
perspective
just
for
perspective,
there's
about
10
feet
of
fall
from
kind
of
where
the
parking
lot
is
shown
in
our
eye
in
our
plans
down
to
South
East
14th,
and
it
happens
in
a
very
quick
quick
transition
because
of
these
grades
that
we
are
fighting
on
site.
Obviously,
we
can't
push
too
much
further
to
Southeast
14th.
I
We
have
to
maintain
the
frontage
road
and,
as
you
could
see
from
the
aerials
before
the
frontage
road,
it
has
quite
a
bit
of
great
off
of
it.
One
of
the
keep
in
mind
is
that
frontage
roads
grades
runs
about
7
to
8%,
and
that
also
kind
of
complicates
the
ability
to
develop
this
property
effectively
and
looking
through
staffs
comments.
First
thing
I
always
like
to
do
is
say:
okay.
I
What
are
the
items
that
we
know
is
no
big
issue
for
us
to
agree
to
so
with
in
discussions
with
everybody
items,
3
5,
&
6
are
things
that
yep
there's
absolutely
no
issue
from
us
to
get
that
taken
care
of,
so
we're
good
with
that
number.
Four:
the
pedestrian
access
from
Southeast
14th,
regardless
of
how
the
building
gets
boring.
It's
not
always
going
to
be
some
other
day
when
you
start
looking
at
8080
routes
up
to
a
site
like
this,
you
may
be
very
cognizant
about
current
movements
and
possible
of
these
walkways.
I
It's
hard
for
me
to
say
that's
an
accessible
route,
if
you
know
there's
an
8%
cross
slope
in
those
walks
and
that's
why
we
at
this
point
in
time
have
not
shown
a
route
from
our
site
because
sidewalk
the
owners
would
love
to
have
it.
It
only
increases
the
viability
of
this.
This
building
for
both
the
Little
Caesars
franchise,
as
well
as
the
other
tenants
that
will
occupy
the
building.
But
at
this
point
I'm,
the
reason
we
have
not
done
is
because
of
our
concerns
with
that
cross
slope
from
a
frontage
road.
I
So
that
leaves
us
down
to
the
last
issue
and
that
last
issue
is
kind
of
orientation
to
this
building
and
its
proximity
quarters
are
away
from
the
frontage
road.
The
Jason
did
a
good
job
talking
about
kind
of
what's
happening,
both
north
and
south
of
here,
and
obviously
the
sites
to
the
north
have
been
more
recently
developed,
and
we
have
looked
at
that.
That
suggestion
from
staff
in
the
problem
that
it
creates
for
us
on
this
site
is
that
this
is
a
multi-tenant
building.
I
The
way
staff
has
suggested
Little
Caesars
could
still
maintain
great
visibility,
but
any
other
tenant
that
would
take
up
the
remainder
of
the
space
would
not
have
any
and
that's
very
problematic
when
you're
trying
to
rent
out
of
buildings
like
this,
and
so
we
had
looked
at
a
concept
like
that
very
early
in
the
process
and
several
different
ideas,
and
we
ultimately
settled
on
the
proposal.
That's
in
front
of
you
for
a
couple
of
reasons.
I
One
the
grade
is
a
huge
issue
to
the
visibility
along
South
East
14th
for
all
the
tenants
would
be
vastly
improved
in
this
location
and
then
number
three
the
way.
The
reason
we
have
the
parking
lot
in
front
is
we
actually
have
used
that
in
our
design
to
kind
of
help
transition,
some
of
that
elevation
grade
from
the
frontage
road
up
to
the
site
by
moving
the
building
any
closer.
It
just
further
compounds
the
ability
to
transition
that
grade
appropriately.
I
I
know,
one
of
the
comments
here
was
about
having
a
second
access
Drive
from
the
site.
I
think
we
would
be
very
agreeable
to
looking
at
removing
the
north
drive
from
our
plan
as
we
have
it.
That
would
get
us
back
to
making
one
of
those
issues
off
the
table,
but
I
think
at
this
point
in
time,
given
the
nature
of
the
Train
on
the
site,
how
the
buildings
are
oriented
to
the
south.
I
H
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Address
please
30
Thank
You,
Tracy
Lukasiak
I
live
at
3804
southeast
15th
Street,
so
it's
that
I'd
be
the
second
house
here.
That's
right
next
to
would
be
next
to
the
the
new
one
yeah
one
more!
Yes!
Well
that
one
right
there!
Yes,
so
my
question
is
X
I
have
several
is
the
I
here
in
the
back
of
the
of
the
addition
here
is
that
where
the
dumpster
is.
J
Mate
and
I
understand
that,
but
my
fear
would
be
that
people
would
throw
either
outside
of
it
over
it.
It
would
end
up
in
Bruce's
yard.
It
would
end
up
all
out
over
everywhere.
That's
just
enough
specifically
concern
I
understand
that
I
do
have
a
concern
about
the
drain.
The
way
this
is
set
up
right
now
and
I
understand.
Andy
talked
to
someone
earlier
and
I
need
to
talk
to
Andy
I've
been
working
all
day
this
road
because
we're
at
a
dead
end.
J
J
J
I'm
done
I'm,
sorry
yeah.
The
only
other
thing
I
was
going
to
point
out
because
I
wasn't
sure
how
far
back
the
back
parking
lot
was.
Gonna
go
is
there's
no
view
to
that
from
the
street.
So
that's
my
only
concern
14th
is
a
very
busy
street
I
hear
it
all
day
there
there
it's
a
little
bit
concerning
to
me
from
just
from
a
crime
perspective,
perhaps
maybe
that
with
no
visual
from
the
street
that
there
wouldn't
be
anybody
there
could
be.
J
F
I
First
of
all,
the
concern
about
the
drainage
is
something
that
we
were
very
careful
of
when
we
first
started
planning
on
this
site.
Right
now,
a
portion
of
the
discount
tire
site
does
drain
through
this
property
that
we're
having
the
proposal
on
tonight
and
drains
out
to
their
street
as
part
of
our
proposal,
we
have
decided
probably
makes
the
best
sense
to
try
and
capture
those
flows
and
cycle
it
through
our
detention
basin.
What
the
value
of
this
is
it's
one
now
we
don't
have
to
storm
outlets
going
through
the
street.
I
Hopefully
it's
maybe
just
a
little
bit
less
quantity.
If
our
system
works
as
designed,
you
are
correct.
There
is
no
connection
from
this
site
to
your
road.
So
actually,
as
you
can
see
here
in
the
drawing
I,
have
a
big
detention
basin
in
the
way
so
be
highly
unlikely.
Anything
would
ever
be
connected
back
there,
so
you
will
still
be
able
to
maintain
your
dead
end
as
far
as
crime
to
the
rear
of
the
building.
I
think
it'll
be
treated
just
like
any
other
quality
retail
billion,
there's
typically
a
level
security
system
around
there.
I
We've
got
a
good
good
occupant
on
the
north
side.
That's
gonna
want
to
make
sure
that
you
know
their
parking.
Lots
is
being
well
monitored
so
that
people
who
want
to
come
in
and
buy
pizzas.
We
don't
have
any
ideas
done
to
the
tenants.
Yet,
but
again
we
want
to
try
and
create
this
as
a
high
upstanding
location
and
paying
attention.
Those
kind
of
issues
is
critical
to
making
that
happen.
I
J
J
J
M
M
E
Yeah,
hello,
hello,
yes,
speak
yeah!
This
is
Andy
Ogden
3801,
southeast
15th
Street
I
just
wanted
to
raise
concern
again
about
the
water
issue,
because
right
now,
when
their
pours
down
that
ditch
that
they
dug
appears
back
the
water
get
as
much
as
6
inches
deep
rolling
down
15th
Street
but
I'd
like
to
know
whether
they
empties
a
lot.
It's
going
to
be
in
front
of
us
whether
they
plan
on
any
kind
of
usage
for
that
I
mean
any
venue.
E
E
I
I
What
we've
got
planned
here
is
the
extents
of
what
we're
showing
the
building
to
build,
so
the
open
area
that
is
behind
the
parking
lots
actually
where
all
those
tree
stands
are.
So
while
this
drawing
it
looks
like
the
big
open
area,
our
intent
is
to
keep
the
tree
stand
up
there
and
then,
in
the
very
rear
of
the
lot,
we'll
all
most
likely
forever
be
open
space
unless
the
site
gets
completely
redeveloped.
Because
that's
why
our
stormwater
control
basin
is
in
the
landscape
landscaping
plan.
It's
part
of
this
packet.
I
We
have
pretty
significant
landscaping
in
that
area,
kind
of
help,
shield
and
buffers
from
those
kinds.
These
kinds
of
uses,
but
likely
very
little
activity,
will
ever
happen
in
this
area.
Given
these
kind
of
conditions,
that
would
that's
this
shows
it
better
and
you
can
kind
of
see
there
where
the
existing
tree
stand
is
as
well.
Obviously,
where
that
ad
range
went
from
discount
tire
has
been
cut
through,
but
other
than
that
we're
trying
to
maintain
everything
else
in
place.
E
K
M
O
I
I
If
the
question
is
is
do
we
move
that
forward
up
as
opposed
to
that
frontage
road,
as
we
can
assuming
the
Greve
work?
I
think
that's
possible,
but
I
think
if
we
did
that
problem,
we're
going
to
have
is
that
we
really
can
have
a
front
rebuilding
based
in
West.
In
that
situation.
It
just
because
coming
out
into
that
frontage
road
with
that
kind
of
gray,
is
to
be
very,
very
difficult
to
build
something
that
viable
or
we
intended
at
the
front
of
the
building.
I
If
we
did
that,
we'd
have
to
have
some
help
and
allowing
the
rear
of
the
building
to
be
to
the
west
and
the
Front's
of
the
building.
So
to
speak.
On
the
east
side,
we
could
work
on
the
elevations
for
the
rear
to
make
them
a
little
bit
more
Street
appealing.
But
if
we
did
that
I
think
that
could
be
a
possibility,
if,
if
PMV
would
prefer
to
see
something
that
way.
L
H
L
I
Yes,
sir,
that's
that's
that
would
be
possible.
One
of
the
I
know
we're
trying
to
get
the
building
within
five
feet
of
the
right
away,
or
in
this
situation
the
frontage
road.
It
could
be
very,
very
difficult
to
do
that.
Just
with
the
grade
we've
got
and
the
grade
of
that
with
that
frontage
road.
So
we
would
need
at
least
some
level
of
relief
on
how
close
to
that
we
could
get.
I
But
if
we
could
work
if
it
could
be
agreeable
to
have
the
back
of
the
building
be
facing
the
street
with
appropriate
elevation,
we're
done
to
make
it
move
one
more
like
a
front
and
still
have
the
front
the
doors
for
the
tenants
on
the
east
side.
That
could
be
something
that
could
work.
I
can't
promise
you.
We
would
be
15
feet
from
the
frontage
road
in
a
way
that
would
place
the
building,
but
we
could
certainly
get
it
closer
than
it
is
now.
G
H
G
So
what
I'm
hearing
you
say
is
that
if
you
did
that
you
there
would
be
some
there'd,
be
some
challenges
to
having
pedestrian
or
having
entrances
orient.
That
way,
I'm
just
wasn't
quite
following
what
you
said
on
why
the
building
would
have
to
flip
orientation
so
that
the
Front's
really
face
towards
the
east.
I
I,
misunderstood
and
I
do
remember
having
discussions
about
that
he's.
You
know.
Part
of
the
problem
we
have
is
that
frontage
roads
grade
being
at
8%,
if
you
try
and
orient
mercial
building
along
that
and
frontage,
every
single
units
gonna
have
to
have
a
step
and
honestly
from
an
88
and
clients
perspective
as
tight
as
that
would
be.
It
would
be
exceedingly
difficult,
in
my
opinion,
to
build
something
that
would
allow
folks
to
be
able
to
get
in
and
out
of
the
buildings
appropriately.
G
In
front
of
you
tonight,
caleb
died
in
chair,
Jan,
I.
Hope,
thanks
for
your
patience
as
I
interject.
Here,
what
about
a
staff
I'm
a
little
concern
about
flipping
the
building
and,
having
maybe
some
token
windows,
they're,
always
dark
on
the
back
side
facing
the
street.
But
what
about
a
single
loaded?
Driveway?
You
know
getting
that
building
close
to
the
street
and
you
have
have
a
single
loaded,
maybe
one-way
angled
parking,
whether
it's
you
know
headed
this
way
or
had
in
you
know
this
way,
but
at
least
getting
the
building
up.
G
I
Galen,
oh
sorry,
yeah
from
my
perspective,
I
think
that's
something
we
can
make
work
I,
think
we're
in
this
situation.
We'd
probably
move
some
of
the
parking,
that's
in
the
front
and
move
the
rear
and
we've
just
slide.
The
building
forward
that
18
feet
and,
like
you
said,
would
get
you
much
more
in
line
with
the
building
to
the
south
and
from
a
constructability
perspective.
I
think
it
is
very
similarly
priced
for
the
project.
M
Share
this
is
Michael
logic
playing
administrator,
obviously,
on
on
other
commercial
front
ages,
we
do
have
buildings
that
have
entrances
on
the
front
and
the
back
sides
of
these
buildings.
Prime
example
the.
Although
the
grade
is
not
as
substantial
the
there's
a
four
tenant
building
on
Ingersoll
just
passed.
N
N
O
N
O
N
Are
correct
because,
just
like
what
Mike
pointed
out
on
Ingersoll,
it's
literally
a
two
sided
building
with
arguably
two
fronts
and
whether
the
applicant
wants
to
go
that
direction
when
they
slide
it
to
the
west
or
whether
they
want
to
leave
it
predominantly
a
front
facing
I
I
can
go
either
way.
Okay,
thank
you.
P
H
B
B
Q
You,
madam
chair
members
of
the
Commission
Catherine
da
start
plaintiff
or
the
City
of
Des
Moines.
The
subject
property
is
located
on
George
Flagg
Parkway,
just
to
the
south
of
the
Des
Moines
Water
Works,
building,
which
you
can
see
on
the
map
here.
As
mentioned,
they
are
looking
to
build
an
addition
on
to
the
North
facade
of
their
existing
warehouse
building,
I'll
zoom
in
just
a
little
bit,
and
so
their
existing
building
is
located
here
on
their
property
and
they're.
Q
Q
Q
K
Q
Q
Q
A
little
too
far
out
there,
here's
some
pardon
me
some
facade
elevations
that
they
have
given
us
generally
they've
met
all
of
our
other
code
requirements.
This
would
be
the
primary
state
facade
where
my
arrow
is
facing
George
Flagg
and
that's
what
that
would
look
like,
and
then
you
can
see
the
eastern
facade.
They
also
have
a
doorway
and
some
new
windows
they're
proposing
my
apologies,
you
and
then.
Q
This
would
be
the
western
facade
as
staff.
We
are
recommending
denial
of
the
appeals
just
because
by
code
we
are
looking
for
that
primary
entrance
feature
along
the
street
facing
facade
of
the
addition,
and
then
we
are
looking
for
that
office.
Space
usage
in
that
new
addition
closest
to
the
street
facade.
The
applicant
did
provide
some
drawings
that
I
will
be
helping
him
share
a
little
bit
later
during
his
presentation,
but
they've
updated
this
week.
I
think
they've
made
a
few
changes
that
they'd
like
to
highlight
to
the
Commission.
Q
O
Q
Yes,
we
did
not
have
concerns
with
the
with
the
materials
they'll
be
matching
the
existing
and
generally
with
a
pre-existing
structure,
building
situation
most
of
the
time
when
they
match.
What's
existing,
we're
willing
to
work
with
them
on
that,
so,
as
you
can
see,
it
looks
like
they
are
planning
on
using
a
CMU
block,
which
is
what
is
existing
and
then
they
did
meet
requirements
for
shadow
lines
and
then
transparency
within
the
transparency
zone
on
this
street
facing
facade.
Thank.
Q
N
Catherine
this
is
Greg.
What
he
ate.
Can
you
walk
me
through
I
mean
the
property?
Has
a
storage
out
outside
storage
lot
in
front
of
this
building,
and
so
I
guess
I
struggle
with
what
good
it
would
do
to
put
a
primary
entrance
on
that
I
guess:
I'll
call
it
North
facade
when
there's
still
the
truck
area
and
it's
all
behind
their
yard
fence.
I
I,
don't
know
I
thoroughly,
understand
the
intent.
The
primary
entrances
and
walkability
the
streets
I
thoroughly
understand
that.
N
Q
Right
there
were
different
discussions.
Another
staff
member
was
the
primary
reviewer
on
this
project,
but
generally
they,
what
they
have
proposed
has
met
the
intent
of
the
code,
with
the
exception
of
these
two
elements,
and
so
they'd
were
just
the
applicant
I
know,
is
looking
for
relief
to
those
two
and
they'll
be
better
suited
to
explain
the
rationale
behind
that.
Okay,.
H
R
We
the
building
up
with
the
kind
of
shadow
lines
which
we
mentioned
and
we
had
since,
and
we
were
not
against
putting
a
door
on
the
front.
It
didn't
seem
really
practical,
but
there's
nothing
against
it.
We're
totally
willing
to
comply
with
that.
That's
what's
required
from
the
city.
Our
problem,
though,
is
in
making
that
in
occupiable
space,
currently
we
are
shooting
to
make
this
a
$50,000
addition.
The
assessed
cost
of
the
building
itself
is
one
hundred
and
three
thousand
three
hundred.
R
With
that
amount
which
would
make
us
end
up
triggering
once
we
get
all
the
way
through
a
site
upgrade
to
almost
the
entire
site
and
we've
gone
through
some
preliminary
estimates
of
that,
because
I
can
do
that
on-site,
secret
construction
can
and
from
the
stormwater
drainage,
ripping
everything
up.
It
was
around
three
hundred
and
sixty
thousand
dollars
additional
to
do
that
for
the
site,
which
became
on
top
of
the
building
construction.
R
So
taking
this
from
a
fifty
thousand
dollar
project
to
roughly
four
hundred
over
$400,000
project,
which
I
know
that's
not
necessarily
always
the
concern
of
the
Zoning
Board.
But
it's
definitely
concerning
here
for
us
and
put
the
intent
of
the
building
owner,
and
so
that's
why
we're
looking
for
relief
in
order
to
to
meet
from
the
outside
of
the
building,
we
believe
we're
meeting
all
the
requirements.
Never
look
the.
R
L
E
H
B
Q
H
H
B
F
P
M
Chair
this
is
Michael
living
I
just
wanted
to
let
you
know,
we
don't
know
for
sure
what
format
next
the
next
meeting
on
July
2nd
will
be.
The
governor's
Proclamation
allowing
the
electronic
meetings
technically
ends
on
June
25th,
and
so
we
don't
know
if
that
will
be
extended
or
not
so
just
be
looking
at
your
packets
or
information
on
whether
or
not
we're
an
electronic
meeting
or
a
combination
or
in-person
meeting
on
July
2nd.
Thank
you
thank.