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Des Moines Plan & Zoning Commission meeting via teleconference on Thursday, July 2, 2020.
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A
And
before
we
get
going
on
the
meeting,
we
want
to
recognize
the
child
commissioner
Jackie
easily
Jacqueline
II
easily
and
I'm
going
to
say
a
few
words
and
then
Jackie
is
on
line
and
Jackie.
Please
feel
free
to
you
know,
say
something
like
a
defining
moment
or
something
you're
most
pleased
about
during
your
years
of
service,
because
he's.
B
A
A
Jackie
was
the
chair
of
the
Commission
during
the
adoption
of
a
very
significant
planning
effort
plan,
the
athan
Comprehensive
Plan
and
the
adoption
of
the
city's
new
zoning
code
and
zoning
map
jackie,
also
an
extensive
history
of
service
to
the
community.
Beyond
this
commission,
including
service
on
the
des
moines
public
school
board,
the
Metropolitan
Transit
Authority
board
and
as
an
executive
at
Mercy,
one
Jackie's
certainly
helped
make
Des
Moines
a
better
place
to
live,
work
and
play
so
Jackie.
We
are
gonna,
miss
you
and
I
was
surprised.
A
A
D
Mild
I
can
hear
it.
Yes,
okay,
well
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
your
very
nice
words
and
I'd,
like
to
kind
of
share
of
the
story
that
I
think
is
appropriate
to
this
thing,
MyLab
community.
So
it's
hard
to
believe
that
it's
been
three
weeks
ago
that
I
was
standing
on
the
corner
of
Merle
hay,
road
and
bagless,
with
very
very
young
girls
who
were
there
to
protest
or
at
least
express
their
frustration
with
what
they
turned
so
early.
D
D
D
Look
back
at
some
of
the
decisions
that
you
helped
make,
but
as
our
planning
of
disability
decision
regarding
payday
loan
sites
here
in
Des
Moines
our
discussion
on
where
fireworks
sales
would
take
place.
Although
an
individual
businesses
that
small
businesses
and
where
they
wanted
to
locate
in
the
city
and
in
Kurt's
macro
to
Franklin
junior
high
they're,
really
thoughtful
discussion,
we
have
outset
by
to
a
course
building
ordinance.
Is
you
I
said
you
don't
understand
now
but
someday?
D
You
understand
how
important
having
a
seat
at
the
table
and
how
your
voice
can
be
heard
and
your
new
perspective
can
be
heard.
So,
who
knows?
I
may
see
them
again.
You
sure
everybody
knows
what
happens
that
night.
Unfortunately,
but
I
do
really
believe
wholeheartedly
that
it
is
really
important.
It
has
a
seat
at
the
table.
I've
appreciated
this
12
years
being
people
to
do
so
and
when
I
spoke
with
the
mayor,
I
tell
them
that
I,
don't
think
my
voice
is
diminished
in
any
way
and
I
hope
to
continue
serve
our
city.
A
Well,
Jackie,
thank
you
very
much
and
again.
You
know
we
we're
glad
you're
here
tonight
and
we're
glad
that
you're
going
to
be
participating
tonight.
He
will
lead
us.
So
thank
you
for
sharing
that
story.
We
also
want
to
recognize
Jack
Helmer
Jack
has
served
on
the
Commission
for
almost
10
years,
starting
in
2010.
There's
been
so
much
change
at
the
point
about
Jack
was
heart
major
planning
efforts
that
are
being
implemented,
a
la
whether
it's
Plan
B,
a
family
dsm
zoning
code.
A
F
F
F
F
Construction
skills
and
his
development
skills
and
ultimately
was
on
the
City
Council.
So
as
I
look
back
at
the
work
that
we
were
doing
over
the
last
almost
10
years
and
watch
the
Renaissance
that
we
had
in
the
City
of
Des
Moines,
much
of
it
in
downtown
where
Conrad
younger
man
started
at
the
junction
of
the
two
rivers
a
hundred
and
sixty
plus
years
ago,
I
took
joy
in
watching
the
reconstruction
of
the
city
in
that
area.
That
Conrad
got
his
start.
F
A
Jack,
thank
you
very
much
and
he
did
write
a
very
kind
letter,
but
it
said
reading
the
letter
I
wanted
him
to
be
here
and
say
a
few
words
and
read
the
letter
in
stone.
So
thanks,
Jack
and
I'd
be
glad
to
you
know.
I
can
share
that
letter
for
sure,
but
we're
just
nice
to
hear
from
you
and
thank
you
for
all
you've
done
for
sure.
Now,
as
Jack
said,
did
you
want
to
say
a
few
words
or
no
just.
E
A
Mike
and
as
Jack
said,
John
Jack
Hellmuth
is
better
like
Johnny
of
the
bar
and
Johnny's
with
us
tonight.
He
will
be
participating.
I'm
gonna
introduce
Johnny
Johnny
is
the
program
director
of
Proteus,
which
is
an
organization
that
provides
agricultural
workers
and
their
families
with
affordable
health
care,
education,
assistance
and
job
training.
Johnny
previously
were
City
of
Des
Moines,
consistently
reviews
commercial
site
plans
as
part
of
the
event
and
Development
Center
planning
staff.
A
From
the
web
profile
at
the
Iowa
International,
sir
Johny
immigrated
to
United
States
from
Ecuador
when
a
teenager
he
moved
to
Iowa
New
Jersey
to
at
Iowa
State
and
graduated
with
a
BS
and
master's
degree.
Johnny
remained
in
Iowa
to
apply
his
knowledge
skills
background
to
ensure
the
opportunity
to
ride
for
all
members
of
historically
marginalized
groups
with
Keenum
immigrant
community.
So
welcome
Johnny.
E
A
The
plan
Zoning
Commission
is
generally
advisory
body
to
the
City
Council,
the
City
Council,
the
public
hearing,
and
make
the
final
decision
on
matters
before
the
Commission
other
than
by
plans
and
subdivisions
life.
Unless
denials
or
traditional
schools
there
of
our
appeal,
please
contact
the
city,
clerk
or
Community
Development,
Department
staff,
five,
one
five,
six,
eight,
nine,
nine
four,
eight
five
for
details
on
council
hearing
applicant
will
be
given
ten
minutes
to
read
at
the
request.
A
If
applicants
wish
to
share
materials
not
already
submitted
with
the
application,
please
email
that
to
plan
e
SDM
got
those
bad
hoes
may
be
able
to
scare
them
on
his
brain
when
you
freeze
it
rappelling
into
men.
Opponents
from
the
public
eye
that
allowed
speak
of
that
order
just
be
sure
a
lot
of
Maxima
FISA
gas
has
attempted
to
compile
Lisbon
people
who
would
like
to
speak
on
each
item.
The
Apple
first
call
on
these
people
and
then
will
open
up
anyone
else
who
wishes
to
speak
to
request
to
speak
during
the
hearing.
A
Please
use
the
raised
hand
function
on
it
to
be
in
the
Internet
or
dial
star
nine
on
your
phone.
You
will
be
required
if
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
prior
to
speaking
also,
we
ask
that
you
keep
your
microphones
and
follow
up
on
you
unless
you've
been
given
the
chance
to
address
the
Commission
by
the
chair.
Applicant
has
been
allowed
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
If
any
opponent
vote.
All
comments
are
to
be
germane
to
the
item
under
consideration
and
speakers
are
making
a
curious
manner.
H
A
From
the
consent
agenda
and
considered
separately
under
the
public
area
magenta,
the
City
of
Des
Moines
is
pleased
to
provide
accommodation
to
individuals
or
groups
with
disabilities
and
encourages
participation
in
city
government.
Please
know
that
typical
accommodation
may
be
limited
by
emergency
requirement,
as
issued
by
the
state
of
Iowa
and
the
City
of
Des
Moines.
We
will
start
at
roll
call
iron.
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A
You
Tyler
now
we're
going
to
turn
our
attention
to
the
big
gun.
I,
don't
public
hearing
item
item
number
one
request
from
the
city
as
Ralph
administrator,
believe
you
and
recommendation
proposed
honorary
three
make
a
Riviera
way
for
a
segment
of
morning
Avenue
between
quicks
Avenue
and
terminus
asset
Des,
Moines
River
is
west
of
7th
Street
there.
Anyone
on
the
Commission
who
would
like
to
hear
their
side
up.
A
A
Okay,
not
hearing
any
item
number
two
city
initiated
request
for
vacation
of
the
East
with
us
alley:
segment
between
fails
breed
and
each
Railroad
Avenue
from
Southie
seven
streets
of
Southie
83
in
the
vicinity
of
property
at
901,
southeast
Emma,
709
of
714
Bale
Street.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
hear
this
item?
A
A
A
Okay,
so
I've
been
updated
that
there's
a
possibility
or
number
seven.
Let's
look
at
number
seven
number:
seven
they're
an
agreement
with
the
staff
recommendation,
so
number
seven
is
request
from
Grasso
properties,
one
represented
by
Steve
Grasso
for
the
filing
for
property
located
at
3206,
University
Avenue.
The
subject:
property
is
owned
by
Drake
University
and
we've
been
told
that
the
applicant
has
been
agreement
with
the
staff
recommendation.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
audience
who
would
like
to
hear
this
idea.
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A
Determination
as
to
whether
the
requested
rezoning
has
been
conformance
with
plan
zsm,
creating
our
tomorrow
grants
a
plan,
B
is
review
and
approval
a
large-scale
development
plan
for
30
3.99
city
cemetery,
including
development
of
a
new
memorial
chapel
or
place
of
worship
and
C
rezone
property
from
these
one
public,
Civic
and
institutional
district.
To
avoid
vague
and
institutional
district,
the
law
of
development,
of
a
place
of
worship,
youth
within
a
civic
building
pipe
and
allow
the
future
right
to
expand
an
existing
non.
City-Owned
cemetery
you
through
additional
consideration.
A
F
F
Just
to
give
you
reference,
east
of
the
airport,
crossroads
PUD
to
the
west
and
there's
a
neighborhood
area
to
the
east,
to
the
north
system,
open
space,
that
of
the
applicant
owns
but
is
not
included
in
the
rezoning
at
this
time.
But
north
of
that
is
a
mobile
home
park
and
then
to
the
south
is
undeveloped.
F
As
you
can
see,
they're
showing
futuring
tournaments
further
to
the
east,
they
have
some.
They
have
sections
that
are
named
different
areas
within
the
within
the
cemetery
itself.
This
area
to
the
south
is
the
subject
of
what
they're,
with
triggering
the
rezoning
there's
an
existing
chapel
at
this
location
generally
that
they
are
looking
to
replace
with
a
new
chapel
construction
and
development
to
move
ahead
with
their
needs.
F
They're,
considering
the
upon
the
possibility
of
having
internment
inside
the
temple
as
well,
the
way
that
the
current
zoning
allows
button
city-owned
cemeteries
in
in
the
p1
district,
but
does
not
allow
non
city
owned
cemeteries.
When
the
new
zoning
for
the
whole
city
came
about,
they
were
still
legal
as
they
existed,
but
this
proposed
project
now
triggers
the
need
to
get
the
zoning
to
allow
a
place
of
worship
by
right.
F
So
they
could
fill
that
with
the
peace
who's
owning
they're,
proposing
they
would
be
able
to
zone
or
be
able
to
develop
the
chapel
by
itself
as
a
matter
right
with
a
group
site
plan
with
that
zoning,
if
they
want
to
add
internment
in
the
building.
That
would
have
triggered
a
further
process
of
a
conditional
use
review
by
the
Zoning
Board
of
adjustment
for
cemeteries.
A
little
background
there.
F
The
state
code
put
some
responsibility
on
municipalities
to
take
over,
for
situations
where
a
privately
owned
cemetery
would
go
would
become
a
non-viable
entity
and
therefore
the
cities,
and
it
has
some
responsibility
to
pick
these
up
and
maintain
them
in
the
end
and
deal
with
them
in
that
event,
and
so
we're
very
careful
to
make
sure
that
they
basically
here
the
way
we
want
to
operate
our
city-owned
cemetery
as
well,
so
in
the
king
in
the
event
that
we
would
ever
have
to
assume
responsibility.
F
So
that's
the
main
impetus
behind
having
those
two
different
types
of
cemeteries
treated
differently
under
the
zoning
right
now.
At
this
time,
the
zoning
is
all
that's
under
consideration
again.
If
they
choose
to
do
more
internment
in
the
chapel,
for
example,
the
fact
was
go
for
a
shake
conditional
used
in
front
of
the
Zoning
Board
of
Adjustment
their
site
plan.
F
F
We
did
put
the
information
in
about
what
is
required
if
they
do
go
through
conditional
use.
There
are
supplemental
review
requirements
that
have
to
be
complied
with
with
any
future
expansion
of
a
cemetery
or
additional
internment
that
they
might
be
proposing.
So
we
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of
what
those
diplomatic
use
regulations
were.
F
Their
proposed
project
will
require
site
plan,
review
and
building
code
review
with
issuance
of
the
required
permit.
They
are
going
to
any
any
in
a
new
impervious
or
disturbed
area.
Over
10,000
square
feet
is
going
to
trigger
the
requirement
to
comply
with
stormwater
regulations
for
stormwater
management.
If
they're
disturbing
over
an
acre
in
area,
they
will
also
have
to
have
a
swift
or
stormwater
pollution
protection
plan
reviewed
by
Iowa,
DNR
and.
F
So
in
this
case,
it's
a
predominantly
a
single
purpose
plan
for
their
cemeteries,
large
large
property
area,
so
they're
they're
intended
to
use
the
entirety
of
it
for
that
function
and
then
circulate
internally
as
needed
with
private
circulation
system.
So
in
this
case
there
isn't
any
recommendation
to
commodify
that
to
extend
public
streets
or
any
block
design
and
for
other
types
of
development.
So
we're
we're
comfortable
with
the
proposed
large-scale
film
atlantis
daf
staff
is
recommending.
F
F
A
F
G
G
Develop
a
nicer
chapel
for
the
for
the
area
for
the
cemetery.
Yes,
another
matter
kind
of
summarized
everything
else
and
the
owner
is
not
with
us
tonight.
I'd
have
to
double-check
with
them
on
how
the
neighborhood
meeting
went
and
all
that,
but
really
all
I
have
at
this
point,
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
motion.
Okay,.
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F
F
Chair
this
is
Eric
white
hair,
of
course,
that
doesn't
muted,
so
he's
able,
okay,
I
would
have
to
say
I,
not
against
any
kind
of
reasoning
for
the
improvement
of
the
chapel
or
whatever,
but
more
just
that,
like
at
any
point,
could
any
of
cemetery
the
33.9
two
acres
be
for
yourself,
something
else:
it's
not
being
used
at
some
point
beside
the
land,
that's
directly
behind
my
house.
That's
right!
Now
that
is
Business
Park
type,
stuff.
E
The
question,
of
course,
the
owner
has
a
right,
the
request
we
donate
at
any
point
in
the
future.
It
would
go
through
the
same
process
as
we
are
here
this
evening
on
which
is
notice
to
property
owners
within
50
feet
of
the
post,
rezoning
and
then
recommendation
by
the
Commission
and
ultimately,
a
public
hearing
and
decision
by
the
City.
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Represented
by
Tami
brink,
you
appeal
of
the
administrative
denial
of
a
type
one
design
alternative.
In
accordance
with
chapter
135,
section
135,
9.4
bboy
and
135
9
.
3.1
speak
for
property
located
at
1715
park
street.
To
allow
a1
council
house,
I
be
dwelling
in
an
n5
neighborhood
district
to
be
constructed
on
the
property
without
the
required
garage
per
section.
135
2,
.
B
Thank
You
chair
members
of
the
Commission
Catherine
da
start
planner
for
the
City
of
Des
Moines
I
will
note
that
there's
been
one
change.
The
representative
tonight
for
Greater
Des
Moines
Habitat
for
Humanity
will
be
Lance
Henning.
As
mentioned.
This
property
is
located
at
1715
Clark
Street,
which
is
a
little
bit
east
of
Martin
Luther
King
jr.
Parkway
on
the
north
southbound
section
and
a
little
bit
north
of
University
Avenue
just
along
the
bottom
part
of
the
map.
You
can
see
King
Elementary
School
a
couple
of
photos
for
some
context.
B
This
is
the
property
just
to
the
west
of
the
subject.
Property
tonight
subjects
property
just
a
little
bit
clearer
view,
and
then
this
is
the
property
bees.
I
will
back
up
just
a
little
bit
as
know
that
you
will
see
that
there
is
a
garage
located
on
the
adjoining
properties
to
the
way
here
is
the
site
plan
provided
by
habitat.
B
You
can
see
that
they
are
proposing
a
basement
or
excuse
me
of
one
household
dwelling,
and
if
this
one
is
will
have
a
full
basement
and
then
they
are
proposing
a
paved
driveway
add
to
the
rear
of
the
property.
As
well
as
ten
by
twelve
said,
and
that's
they're,
proposing
that
in
lieu
of
the
required
garage.
B
You'll
notice
that
the
green
dots
indicate
that
there
either
is
a
garage
existing
or
it
is
a
vacant
lot
and
therefore
is
assumed,
as
codified
to
that
it
would
have
a
garage
of
meeting
the
requirement
of
280
square
feet
in
the
future.
And
again
we
just
note
that
the
property
is
about
is
the
elementary
school.
B
B
Of
the
excuse
me
radius
of
the
subject
property
and
we
found
that
15
of
these
parcels
meets
the
classification.
So
that's
51.7%,
which
brings
us
over
that
50%
requirement
that
triggers
the
necessity
to
have
to
meet
the
garage
requirement
and
then
the
fact
that
one
out
of
the
two
laws
on
either
side
adjoining
the
subject
property
also
has
a
existing
garage.
A
couple
of
type
1
design.
B
B
B
Much
more
than
the
10
by
12
foot
garage
so
and
the
general
character
of
the
neighborhood
is
one
that
has
brushes
and,
as
you
know,
from
the
approval
process
of
the
code
that
signs
up
is
value
immediately
and
in
the
long
term
for
property
owners
and
having
a
garage
when
they
move
into
or
soon
after
a
property
and
so
based
on
the
fact
that
it.
This
is
a
garage
requirement
that
is
codified.
B
That
does
not
feel
that
they
that
habitat
has
met
the
conditions
that
are
codified
to
allow
a
waiver
of
the
garage
requirement,
and
so
we
are
recommending
denial.
There
are
any
questions.
I
can
answer
for
the
Commissioner
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
oh
I'm.
Sorry
I
forgot
to
barely
unsent
map.
As
you
can
see,
we
did
not
receive
any
cards
back
from
the
notification
mailing.
B
D
B
Every
month
we
send
out
a
copy
of
the
agenda,
the
preliminary
agenda
to
every
neighborhood
association
in
the
city
and
then
specific
notification
extent
to
any
impact
in
iam
impacted
neighborhood
associations,
as
in
this
case,
we
would
have
sent
it
out
to
forgive
me
off.
Thank
you
King.
It
should
be
yeah,
amen,
the
Irving
and
then
there's
also
close
enough
time
on
demons
residential
that
both
neighborhood
receive
notification.
Okay,.
H
B
E
E
E
We
go
and
go
to
the
first
slide,
so
we
are
proposing.
This
would
be
the
house
plan
that
we
are
proposing.
This
is
so
it
would
be
big
back
same
as
what
is
pictured
here.
This
is
a
one-story
three-bedroom
two-bath.
It
does
have
a
full
basement
if
1158
square
feet,
I
believe
the
actual
lot
hooked
that.
F
F
E
F
E
E
F
G
F
The
neighboring
house
owns-
and
there
is
a
lot
on
17th
Street-
that
one
house
and
the
neighboring
owns
both
those
Lots
on
there.
The
likelihood
of
those
folks
separating
off
that
property
from
their
existing
property
and
building
a
new
structure
which
would
count
as
the
garages
within
the
next
20
years,
extremely
unlikely.
E
F
F
E
F
E
E
A
J
Dammit
yeah,
this
is
Carolyn,
hey,
I,
live
nine
block,
eight
blocks
away
from
this
and
I'm.
Just
I
was
kind
of
going
through
our
my
dog
walk
and
thinking
about
who
has
garages
and
we
all
have
carriage
houses
or
self-service
garages
or
shed,
and
it's
it's.
The
neighborhood
we've
lived
here
22
years
and
I
I
think
the
I
think
what
they're
trying
to
do
anything
live
and
habitat
has
done
a
great
job
fitting
into
the
neighborhood
and
I
just
wanted
to
say
from
my
perspective,
living
in
this
neighborhood,
it
works
well
I.
D
D
H
H
K
G
G
A
F
G
G
G
B
C
G
G
E
I
C
K
F
The
location
of
the
property
is
in
the
Highland
Park
neighborhood
at
East,
Euclid
and
bright
streets.
If
the
vacant.
Currently
it
was
a
vacant
gas
station
site,
that's
been
used
for
other
purposes.
More
recently,
it's
surrounded
by
single-family,
residential
or
one
household
of
dwellings
at
the
western
fringe
of
Big,
East
Euclid
and
East
14th
Street
commercial,
mixed
use,
node,
but
it
is
it
still.
Zoned
mx3,
which
is,
is
a
business
owning
it's
intended
for
more
Iowa
oriented
use
which
East
Euclid
here
is,
is
I
US,
Highway
six,
so
it
is
on
that
highway
corridor.
F
F
F
F
F
Again,
we're
going
to
go
through
the
staff
report.
It's
a
sixteen
thousand
eight
hundred
square
foot
property
again
it's
at
the
fringe
of
the
mixed-use
commercial
area
and
the
and
the
one
family,
low-density
residential
area
to
the
south
and
west
along
the
highway
six
Euclid
corridor.
It
is
in
the
Highland
Park
neighborhood
area.
The
Highland
Park
representative
was
included
in
notification
and
notices
were
sent
to
all
property
owners
within
250
the
with
regard
to
site
plans.
F
They
realized
that
the
things
that
are
conditions
from
earlier
in
2019
were
gonna
cause
them
to
look
at
that
cost.
They
decided
to
look
more
investment
into
the
building
project
and
that
increased
the
area.
Therefore,
they
had
to
come
back
and
get
amendment
to
that
approval
in
September
of
2019
again
in
May,
and
then
all
of
these
conditions
that
they
have
to
comply
with
for
their
use
are
listed
in
your
staff
report
and
many.
H
F
So
then,
there's
political
regulations
for
consideration
of
my
plan.
The
fields
under
the
type
2
requirements
are
listed
in
your
staff
report.
Now
I'm
gonna
go
over
these
one
by
one.
The
first
one
is
the
bill
to
zone
of
0
to
5
feet
which
they
are
not
going
to
meet
since
they're.
Using
the
core
of
the
project
is
the
existing
building,
which
that's
about
60
feet
back
from
East
Euclid,
right
away
line,
so
in
that
case
again
because
they
have
to
comply
with
all
the
standards.
F
With
this
project
they
actually
meet
the
design
alternative
waiver
for
that
provision
to
be
set
back.
That
far
number
2
or
B
is
a
type
2
design
alternative
for
surface
parking
and
loading
with
in
the
front
in
sight.
Street
side
yards.
That's
not
if
this
was
a
brand-new
project
that
would
not
be
not.
The
code
doesn't
seek
to
have
that
design
to
be
in
front
of
the
building
that
the
building
should
be
placed
at
the
street.
In
this
case,
because
of
the
placement
of
the
existing
building,
there
they've
got
their
area
that
they
have.
F
Their
work
was
to
provide
the
off
street
parking
is
to
the
north
and
to
the
east
of
the
building
of
somewhat
and
really
has
to
be
in
between,
and
this
is
a
design
alternative
that
would
be
required
if
they
are
not
going
to
remove
the
building
then
number
letter.
C
is
a
type
2
design
alternative
for
provision
of
one
entrance
where
two
are
required.
F
My
understanding
is
they're
sightings
of
need
for
security
control
at
one
entrance
point
versus
multiple
entrance
point
for
the
for
the
general
public
to
come
in
to
the
premise
I
believe
they
are
proposing
a
wider
door
front
system.
They
do.
If
you
look
at
those
elevations
well,
it's
just
one
entrance
that
they
have.
The
capacity
is
therefore,
essentially,
the
same
amount
is
like
a
to
two
separate
entrance.
F
D
is
a
design
I'll
trip
time
to
design
alternative
to
allow
an
entryway,
that's
not
recessed
between
three
and
eight
from
the
portion
of
the
primary
French
facade
closest
to
the
street.
Again,
the
intent
of
the
storefront
building
type
is
that
that
building
would
be
built
up
F
between
0
and
5
feet,
and
therefore
the
desire
when
that
is
the
conditions,
is
that
the
entrances
should
be
recessed
back
in
from
the
from
the
front
of
the
building,
so
that
that
door
access
is
not
becoming
an
obstruction
within
the
right-of-way.
F
F
E
is
a
time
to
design
alternative
due
to
the
fact
that
it
was
administrative
leave
denied
as
a
type
1,
which
it
was
eligible
for
to
allow
retention
of
a
driveway
access
from
the
primary
street
of
East
Euclid
East
Euclid
is
considered
a
primary
Street
Center
primary
frontage.
If
you
look
at
the
building
type
regulations
for
storefront,
it
needs
to
have
one
entrance
from
a
either
an
alley
or
a
non-primary
Street,
which
they
are
also
proposing
from
right.
F
So
this
is
an
additional
entrance
over
and
above
that
that
they
need
a
design
alternative
to
allow
it
I
think
it
would
be
looked
at
differently
if
they're
only
frontage
was
you
would,
then
they
really
wouldn't
have
another
option,
and
then
the
engineer
would
be
able
to
support
that.
But
in
this
case
the
two
requires
the
design
alternative
letter.
F
is
a
design
alternative
with
regard
to
the
transparency
I'm.
F
Sorry,
with
regard
to
the
minor
facade
material
waiver,
the
60%
of
the
street
facing
primary
frontage
facades
are
supposed
to
be
faced
with
a
single
material,
in
this
case
they're.
Looking
at
a
combination
of
brick
veneer
composite
panel,
siding
and
metal
decking,
none
of
these
are
considered
to
be
a
major
facade
material.
In
the
way
the
material
tables
are
set
up.
The
site
plan
proposes
that
this
proposed
then
will
is
speaking.
F
Essentially
a
hundred
percent
minor
facade
material
instead
of
sixty
percent
of
a
major,
not
mature
staff,
is
in
its
review
data
estimated
they
would
comprise
approximately
50%
of
both
the
north
and
the
primary
Greenwich
facade
and
the
East
primary
frontage.
Beside
with
these
metal
decking
material.
F
I
D
as
a
type
2
again
administrative
Lee
denied
as
a
type
1.
This
is
for
the
transparency
between
2
&
8
feet
of
upgrades
on
the
primary
facade
of
the
building
is
supposed
to
have
windows
and
doors
transparent
to
the
interior,
in
this
case
they're,
proposing
about
50%
when
the
requirement
is
65%
that
that
runs
right
around
23%
deficiency
in
that
amount
of
transparency,
which
again
would
have
been
considered
as
they
design
a
type
1
but
was
denied
administrative
Lee.
F
The
last
one
H
is
with
regard
to
the
requirement
for
the
heavy
bumper
comprised
of
six
football
fans
to
over
store
your
shade
trees
and
six
fundamental
or
understory
trees
for
100
lineal
feet
for
any
lot
dozen
against
any
a
lot
in
and
abutting
and
district,
which
is
to
the
west
and
the
south.
The
pine
plan
is
proposing
rollers,
shrubs
along
the
west
side
yard,
and
indicate
that
the
existing
solid
fence
is
on
the
adjoining
property
and
they
are
not
proposing
a
fence.
F
F
We
did
not
believe
that
this
was
a
more
walkable
corridor,
that
this
was
more
of
a
highway
corridor
and
went
was
allowed
just
the
standard
streetscape
with
the
street
trees
and
the
five-foot
sidewalk,
and
the
perimeter
lot
landscaping
and
then
number
two.
We
improved
the
allowance
for
more
than
nine
parking
spaces
in
a
row
without
an
intervening
interior
landscape
island,
and
in
this
case
we
believe
that
the
island
would
have
prevented
the
circulation
necessary
or
the
would
meet
the
ability
to
get
the
number
of
parking
spaces
they
should
provide.
F
That
was
waived,
administrative
Lea
staff
concern.
You
know
a
B,
C
and
B
essentially
are
sort
of
impractical
to
meet
in
the
case
of
retaining
use
of
the
existing
building.
Therefore,
staff
is
not
really
taking
issue
with
the
design
alternatives
outlined
in
a
B,
C
and
D.
However,
we
recommend
a
denial
of
the
other
three
at
the
administrative
level
and
believe
that
they
can
be
met
and
also
again,
our
recommending
denial
of
e
F,
G
and
H.
We
think
these
are
achievable
standards
and
should
be
met
with
the
proposed
project.
I
F
F
F
A
I
F
Those
are
going
to
be
located
on
the
roof
of
the
addition.
My
question
is:
has
it
been
conducted
annoys
of
evaluation
for
the
orthis
property?
It's
very
tight
they're
against
the
properties
that
are
located
on
the
west,
and
so
that's
my
question:
has
the
city
conducted
some
kind
of
a
noise
evaluation
to
give
us
an
idea?
What
kind
of
problem
that
might
be?
F
Madam
chair
eric
land,
a
senior
city
planner
of?
Will
the
the
standards
don't
require
that
they
do
have
to
meet
the
sound
and
ordinances
for
the
city?
Of
course,
they
are
also
obligated
to
screen
any
rooftop
mechanical
equipment,
but
we
we
don't
ask
for
a
analysis
on
the
sound
and
it's
not
one
of
the
standards
that
they
have
to
achieve
through
the
through
the
process.
F
I
would
think,
if
there's
concern
about
that,
that
that
would
be
something
that
would
have
to
be
asked
of
the
applicant
and
brought
back
if
it
was
absolutely
determined
to
be
necessary
again.
I,
don't
think
in
our
review
that
there
was
concern
beyond
what
you
would
expect
with
commercial
property
adjacent
to
the
residential
again,
the
buffer.
F
The
standards
in
the
code
presumes
some
level
of
need,
for
you
know:
mechanical
equipment
on
properties,
I
know
that
you're
saying
that
the
cooler
and
maybe
maybe
has
a
higher
frequency
of
compression
on
a
you
know,
that's
some
to
ask
the
applicant.
But
yes,
the
answer
is
I.
Believe
some
of
these
are
these
walk-in
coolers
that
are
going
to
be
part
of
this
project,
so
yeah.
F
F
So
certainly
they're
gonna
be
they're.
Gonna
have
to
achieve
that
that
visual
screening
and
and
that
should
provide
some
noise
dampening
to
what
extent
I
couldn't
couldn't
say.
So,
if
there's
something
additional
needed,
certainly
more
landscaping
would
mitigate
that
with
regard
to
tree
plantings
and
evergreens,
and
you
know
the
fencing
again
is
another
built-in
requirement
that
part
of
the
job
is
not
just
to
visually
buffer
it,
but
also
buffers
things
like
noise
and
debris,
and
things
like
that
from
surrounding
property.
So.
G
F
G
F
F
They're
obligated
this
is
their
cloudy
senior
city
planners
they're,
obligated
to
meet
the
requirements
for
cutoff
fixtures
and
light
bill
onto
adjoining
properties.
So
there's
a
provision
in
the
ordinance
of
since
this.
You
know
they
aren't
required
to
provide
a
overall
photometric
as
part
of
this
project
directly,
and
maybe
the
applicant
can
speak
to
whether
they've
done
that
analysis,
but
they
certainly
have
to
demonstrate
that
they
have
the
cut
off
fixtures
down
directed
lighting
and
that
the
light
won't
spill
on
to
adjoining
residential
properties.
F
And
if
you
know,
there's
also
provisions
if
that
occurs
in
the
future.
That
they're,
if
they're,
subject
to
mitigation
or
enforcement
by
zoning
enforcement,
that
that
was
a
change
in
our
new
code
versus
our
former
code
gives
a
lot
more
leeway
for
zoning
enforcement.
If
you
follow
up
on
light
nuisance,
complaints
and
and
require
that
the
property
owner
demonstrate
that
they're
complying
with
the
down
directive
and
the
the
heights
of
the
standards
etc.
So
again,
no
photometric
is
is
a
absolute
requirement
with
there's
the
middle.
G
G
G
G
H
F
F
We
made
adjustments
according
to
zuni
toes
if
that's
not
sufficient,
based
on
the
calculations
view
contusion
we're
willing
to
meet
those
calculations
alone.
Clarification
would
be
so
we
could
understand
a
little
better
for
60%
of
the
major
facade
and
65%
of
the
windows
is
more
than
100
percent
of
the
facade
itself.
So
how
how.
F
Of
the
major
spotted
here
at
all,
as
well
as
65
windows,
we
don't
have
a
problem
meeting
that
we
understand
what
like
you're
requesting
with
those
percentages.
The
calculation
is
exclusive
of
the
window
and
door
opening.
So
your
your
actual
total
is
based
on
excluding
the
that
material
all
right,
so
we
calculate
the
as
you
can
see,
there's
a
parapet
root
there,
that's
about
six
piece
of
one
material,
then
I've
got
a
secondary
material
which
is
the
composite
siding
and
then
the
mere
the
brick
veneer
below
that
do.
F
F
But
I'll
try
to
get
back
on
that.
Okay,
so
this
is
market
wages
see
we
have
no
problem
with
meeting
those.
It's
just
a
matter
of
understanding
what
percentages
you
would
like
to
see
applied
or
provided
on
the
document
and
well
that's
exactly
what
formula
we
should
apply
to
provide
you
with
that
correct.
G
F
H
G
Okay,
this
is
David's
been
Fishman,
Schnee
I
think.
The
argument
like
I
said
I'm
filling
in
for
Mike
Wailord
in
our
office,
but
I,
don't
know
all
the
backgrounds
on
everything
here,
but
my
understanding
is:
there's
an
existing
fence
just
on
the
neighbor's
property
lines,
but
we
were
just
proposing
to
be
the
land
painting
and
their
offense
would
be
adequate.
G
E
F
E
G
F
F
K
E
F
F
E
F
G
F
West
side
and
the
southwest
part
of
the
property-
you
know
the
arrow
is
going
up
and
down
through
there
on
this
on
the
west
side
of
the
property.
There's
a
chain-link
fencing
through
there
as
well,
and
it's
shown
on
your
plan.
Both
of
these
are
shown
on
your
plan,
saying
existing
chain-link
fence
three
feet.
F
E
A
E
Terrible
this
is
Jason
Madison
at
the
city
planning
staff,
I
notice.
Under
the
attendees.
We
have
a
person
that
has
their
hand
raised,
but
they
don't
have
their
name
displayed
if
they
have
a
way
to
give
us
their
name
or
if
they
can
at
least
start
with
their
name
and
address
when
they
speak
it.
Let
them
speak.
E
F
F
G
F
F
Is
is
basically
coming
across
that
he
is
going
to
let
the
Des
Moines
police
department,
because
I
have
it
dirty
if
anybody
wishes.
I
will
be
more
than
happy
to
send
that
correspondence
along
I
would
like
to
know,
or
have
some
kind
of
assurances
that
he
is
going
to
maintain
some
kind
of
security
on
his
own
to
prevent
property
owners
that
are
adjacent
having
to
go
through
the
issues
that
come
along
with
these
types
of
business.
A
G
G
E
F
F
H
F
Madam
chair,
this
is
Eric
Wendy's,
Senior
Planner.
One
thing
I
should
point
out
is
there
would
be
limitations
on
the
height
of
that
pen,
as
you
got
towards
Wright
Street,
that
would
have
to
be
reduced
to
three
feet
in
height,
as
you
get
in
front
of
the
house
that
mr.
Gehry
Debord
own,
so
basically
the
height
of
that
fence,
has
to
drop
when
it
gets
to
the
front
yard
area
of
the
adjoining
residence
to
the
south.
F
The
South
wishes,
no.
That
would
be
something
in
the
purview
of
the
plant
and
Zoning
Commission
to
grant
that
as
a
design
alternative
as
well
I'm.
Just
saying
the
standard
is
that
and
and
the
reason
for
that
is
just
the
visual
obstruction
of
the
front
yard
areas
of
adjoining
residential
and
then
the
other
one
I
did
get
an
answer
on
the
major
facade
material
questions,
and
it
indicates
that
it
reads
specifically
a
minimum
of
60%
of
each
Street
facing
and
primary
frontage
facade,
but
not
including
window
indoor
areas.
So
those
up.
H
F
Because
the
architects
of
the
breech
of
events,
that
of
chairs
this
is
Eric,
Wendy
I-
think
if,
if
they
want
the
fence
to
be,
that
needs
to
be
a
condition
of
that
recommendation
on
except
there's
a
friendly
amendment.
Well,
yes,
I'm
not
making
amendments
for
the
Commission's,
but
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
to
as
a
clarification.