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Des Moines Plan & Zoning Commission meeting via teleconference on Thursday, August 6, 2020.
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A
The
plan
and
zoning
commission
is
generally
an
advisory
body
to
the
city
council.
The
city
council
will
hold
a
public
hearing
and
make
the
final
decision
on
all
matters
before
the
commission
other
than
site
plans
and
subdivision
plots
unless
denials
or
conditional
approvals
thereof
are
appealed.
Please
contact
the
city,
clerk
or
community
development
department
staff
at.
A
For
515-689-9485
on
council
hearings,
applicant
will
be
given
10
minutes
to
present
the
request.
If
applicants
wish
to
share
materials
not
already
submitted
with
the
application,
please
email
them
to
planning
at
dmgov.org,
so
a
staff
host
may
be
able
to
share
them
on
the
screen.
When
you
present
proponents-
and
then
opponents
from
the
public
are
then
allowed
to
speak
in
that
order
with
each
speaker
allowed
a
maximum
of
five
minutes,
staff
has
attempted
to
compile
a
list
of
people
who
would
like
to
speak
on
each
item.
A
Staff
will
first
call
on
these
people
and
then
open
it
up
to
anyone
else.
Who
wishes
to
speak
to
request
to
speak
during
the
hearing.
Please
use
the
raise
hand
function
on
zoom
webinar
via
internet
or
dial
star
9
on
your
phone.
This
is
important
so
for
those
of
you
listening,
you
know,
please
use
the
raise
hand,
function
on
zoom
or
dial
star
9
on
your
phone.
You
will
be
required
to
give
your
name
and
address
for
the
record
prior
to
speaking.
A
Also,
we
ask
that
you
keep
your
microphones
and
phones
on
mute
unless
you've
been
given
the
chance
to
address
the
commission
by
the
chair.
The
applicant
is
given
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
If
any
opponent
spoke,
all
comments
are
to
be
germaine
to
the
item
under
under
consideration,
and
speakers
are
to
maintain
a
courteous
manner.
The
hearing
will
then
be
closed
and
the
commission
will
discuss
and
vote
on
the
issue.
C
B
B
C
C
A
D
A
E
B
D
F
G
G
A
Thank
you
mike
now,
we'll
turn
our
attention
to
the
consent
items
on
the
agenda
item
number
one
city
initiated
requests
for
property
located
at
4104,
amherst
street,
the
vacated
alley
immediately
adjoining
4101,
amherst
4102,
north
union
street
and
lots
18
and
19
madison
gardens
the
subject.
Property
is
owned
by
true
bible,
baptist
church
and
city
of
des
moines.
Is
there
anyone
on
the
commission
that
would
like
to
hear
this
item
pull
this
item?
A
A
Okay
scene,
none
we'll
move
on
to
item
number
three
requests
from
iowa
labor's
education
and
training;
trust
fund,
represented
by
mike
wegman
for
review
and
approval
of
a
pud
final
development
plan,
iowa
laborers
training
facility
for
property
located
at
4560
east
46th
street,
to
allow
development
of
a
15,
000
square
foot,
indoor
training
and
storage
facility
with
an
outdoor
training
ground.
Is
there
anyone
on
the
commission
who
would
like
to
hear
this.
A
135-9.2.4B
and
135-9.3.1b
for
property
located
at
1511
beaver
avenue
to
allow
construction
of
a
5
foot
by
13.5
foot
one
story:
kitchen
addition
with
crawl
space
on
the
northwest
side
of
the
existing
two-story
house
within
12
feet
of
the
northwest
side
property
line.
The
project
was
reviewed
as
a
house
type,
a
in
an
n1b
neighborhood
district.
Is
there
anyone
on
the
commission
who
would
like
to
hear
this
item.
H
H
A
So
thank
you
for
clearing
that
up
item
number
five
requests
from
casey
and
tammy
simpson
for
review
of
the
following
type:
2
design:
alternative
in
accordance
with
chapter
135,
section,
135,
135-9,
dot,
2,
dot
or
b
and
135-9.3.1b
for
property
located
at
5635,
southeast
19th
street
for
seven
feet
and
four
inches
over
the
maximum
14
foot
story.
Height
per
section.
A
135-2.15.3B
14
for
21
feet,
4
inches
of
total
story
height,
which
would
allow
construction
of
a
28,
2,
820
square
foot,
indoor
pool
edition,
a
376
square
foot,
dining
room
addition
and
a
501
square
foot,
deck
enclosure
to
the
north
and
west.
The
existing
one
story
house.
Anyone
on
the
commission
who
would
like
to
hear
this
item.
A
I
Madam
chair,
this
is
bert.
With
the
city
item
number
10
staff
is
comfortable.
Moving
to
the
consent
agenda,
we've
recommended
approval
and
the
applicant
is
in
agreement
with
the
recommended
conditions.
So
if
the
commission
is
comfortable,
you
could
possibly
move
item
number
10
to
the
consent
agenda.
A
Okay,
thanks
bert,
so
item
number
10
requests
from
hamilton's
funeral
home,
represented
by
sasha
mudlof
for
the
properties
located
at
5310,
5314
and
5400
southwest
9th
street
additional
subject.
Property
is
owned
by
carlton,
peterson
and
carlton.
Peterson
trust
is
there
anyone
on
the
commission
who
would
like
to
hear
this.
D
K
C
F
A
B
C
F
F
B
A
H
Okay,
members
of
the
commission,
jason
vanessa
with
the
city
planning
staff
chair,
did
a
great
job
of
introducing
the
item.
The
let
me
show
you
a
map
of
the
subject
property
here
we
go.
Hopefully
that's
showing
up
on
your
screen.
The
the
property
is
located
on
the
I
guess
you
would
refer
to
as
the
southwest
corner
of
the
intersection
of
shaw
street
and
southeast
9th
street.
H
H
The
applicant
did
provide
some
conceptual
ideas
about
how
the
site
would
be
laid
out,
but
would
have
to
come
back
with
the
site
plan
and
go
through
that
process,
so
anything
that
we
see
tonight
on
the
site.
Planner
the
drawings,
I'm
going
to
show
you.
This
is
just
kind
of
conceptual
to
give
you
an
idea
of
what
it
is.
They're
wanting
to
do.
H
In
the
staff
port,
you
know
there's
really
two
things
going
on
here:
there's
the
the
land
use
plan
amendment
and
then
there's
the
re-zoning
it
the
the
zoning.
That's
there
today,
n3c
would
not
allow
the
row
house
unit.
However,
the
existing
low,
medium
density,
residential
designation
for
this
area.
D
H
Gotta
love
technology,
so,
as
I
was
where
I
was
heading,
is
that
the
so
we
have
a
rezoning
from
a
designation?
That's
focused
on
single-family
development
to
a
zoning
that
allows
row
home
development
both
of
those
zoning
designations
are
allowed
in
the
low
medium
density,
residential
designation.
That
covers
this
broader
area,
and
you
might
remember,
I
think
it
was
earlier.
H
So,
even
though
density
or
the
number
of
units
is
really
set
by
chapter
135,
which
is
our
planning
and
design
ordinance
and
not
the
zoning
ordinance,
we
still
have
to
make
sure
that
that
site
plan
would
conform
with
a
future
land
use
map.
So
that's
why,
even
though,
both
of
these
zonings
that
we're
looking
at
both
comply
with
low
medium,
we
do
need
that
the
applicant
would
need
the
high
density
designation
to
be
able
to
do
anything
more
than
three
units
on
this.
This
parcel.
H
H
It's
also
not
enough
land
really
in
our
minds
to
warrant
changing
to
a
high
desi
designation,
where
you
know,
we
really
feel
like
you
need
to
have
some
logical
transition
to
surrounding
uses.
Perhaps
this
if
this
was
at
the
periphery
more
further
north
closer
to
the
market
district,
you
know,
maybe
it
would
make
sense
in
this
case
the
staff.
We
believe
that
the
low
medium
density
designation
is
what
is
the
best
designation
for
this
site
at
this
time,
so
we're
recommending
denial.
H
Part
b,
however
part-
and
I
see
a
typo
part
c-
we're
recommending
approval.
We
think
that
nx2
zoning
is
appropriate
for
this
area.
We
re-zoned
half
a
block
for
the
develop.
You
know
for
this
applicant
not
too
long
ago,
like
I
said
to
the
south
of
here
same
neighborhood,
so
that's
the
basis
of
our
recommendation.
H
H
M
D
M
H
The
other
alternative
that
I
suggested
they
look
at
is
trying
to
acquire
more
land
and
you
know,
come
back
at
a
later
date
with
more
land,
so
those
are
kind
of
different
options,
the
the
zoning
it
does
conform.
You
know
that
that
particular
zoning
district
does
conform
with
the
land
use
map,
but
it
just
so
happens.
We
know
their
intended
density.
Doesn't.
J
H
D
A
A
F
B
E
H
H
So
this
is
a
ariel
identifying
the
subject
property
it's
on
the
north
side
of
thornton
avenue,
just
west
of
southwest
24th
street.
This
is
close
to
the
intersection
of
southwest
26.
you'll,
see
in
this
aerial
house.
That's
been
demolished.
The
applicant
is
constructing
a
new
house
on
this
property
and
as
such,
when
we
have
new
development,
whether
it's
residential
commercial,
our
our
standards
in
chapter
135,
require
a
sidewalk.
D
H
H
H
H
H
You,
know
the
physical
characteristics
of
the
area,
and
is
it
physically
possible
to
put
a
walk
in
in
this
case?
We
believe
it
is
possible.
We
physically,
we
recognize.
There
are
challenges.
The
applicant
spent
some
time
and
put
together
a
nice
presentation
for
you
and
I'm
going
to
help
help
him
go
through
it.
H
Where
he'll
make
the
case
to
you
about
obstacles
that
he
sees
to
installing
it.
The
the
I
guess.
The
one
thing
I
do
want
to
say
is
that
it's
become
evident
to
me
and
looking
at
and
corresponding
with
paul,
that
there
is
an
opportunity
to
move
the
walk
around.
It
doesn't
have
to
necessarily
be
in
one
particular
position.
H
It
can
vary
and
I
think
in
some
of
our
earlier
communications,
but
if
I
don't
think
that
was
clear
apologize
for
that,
we
do
have
some
base
level
standards,
it
would
suggest
a
walk
needs
to
be.
You
know
five
feet
back
from
the
curb
line,
those
sorts
of
things,
but
in
unique
situations
we
do
have
the
ability
to
work
with
our
engineering
staff
and
work
with
the
applicant
to
find
a
path
that
that
makes
sense.
Recognizing
obstacles
is
great.
H
This
is
the
response
map.
We
sent
out
a
notice
to
everybody
within
250
feet.
At
the
time
the
map
was
prepared.
We
hadn't
received
any
responses.
This
afternoon
I
received
a
series
of
emails.
I
do
have
them
in
the
presentation
I'll
go
ahead
and
flip
through
those
and
let
you
read
them,
but
since
they
came
in
late,
we
did
not
have
the
opportunity
to
compare
them
against
the
ownership
of
the
map
and
possibly
update
the.
H
H
N
N
Jason,
this
is
greg
jones.
Yes,
so
you
were
talking
about.
Sometimes
the
city
allows
flexibility.
Normally
that
walk.
Would
the
right-of-way
line
is
about
19
feet
behind
the
edge
of
the
pavement,
but
you
said
sometimes
engineering
allows
it
to
be
five
foot
back
so
essentially,
if
everyone
could
agree,
there
could
be
a
walk
along
there,
but
it
might
be
between
five
and
ten
feet
behind
the
existing
pavement,
which
is
halfway
up
that
slope.
True.
H
Yeah
I
mean
so
yeah.
There
is
flexibility
to
either
have
the
sidewalk
be
very
close
to
the
street
or
to
be
further
back.
It
could
even
possibly
be
partially
or
all
on
the
property
with
a
public
access
easement.
It
can
slide
around.
You
know
to
to
avoid
the
tree
there's
a
water
hydrant.
At
the
other
end,
I
guess
I
yeah
what's
been
shared
with
me,
as
I've
talked
with
our
engineering
staff,
about
the
possibilities
and
options
is
that
there
is
a
multitude
of
ways
that
we
could
find.
H
You
know
find
something
acceptable.
It
wouldn't
have
to
be
a
hard
straight
line.
That's
exactly
five
feet
back
with
a
constant
large
retaining
wall,
which
I
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
paul.
But
I
know
that's
been
one
of
the
items
that
he's
pointed
out.
That
he's
has
concern
with
so
I
know
he
has
other
items,
so
I
don't
want
to
just
pin
it
on
that.
But
I
know
that's
one
item.
N
H
H
D
H
A
O
So
I'm
very
glad
to
be
with
you
today
if
we
can
flip
to
the
the
first
slide
past.
The
title
we'd
like
to
just
talk
a
little
bit
about
us.
My
wife
jill
is
here
with
me.
We
recently
returned
to
des
moines
after
several
career
moves,
but
we
were
more
than
20-year
residents
of
des
moines.
Prior
to
that
we
did
restore
the
historic
fc
waterbury
house
on
country
club
boulevard.
When
we
lived
here
before
we
raised
five
children
here,
we've
been
very
active
in
the
community.
O
D
O
O
The
lack
of
a
sidewalk
was
frankly
something
we
talked
about
before
we
bought
the
lot,
but
as
we've
studied
it,
an
orphan
sidewalk
on
our
property,
we
feel
does
not
contribute
to
the
objectives
of
move
des
moines
at
this
time,
and
I'm
emphasizing
at
this
time
we
are
willing
to
contribute
to
sidewalks
on
the
block
at
such
a
time
when
there's
a
plan
and
for
the
whole
block
and
it's
approved
and
funded
now,
let's
go
into
some
of
the
specific
reasons.
If
we
can
go
to
slide
four,
why
we
think
a
sidewalk
is
problematic.
O
O
O
Now,
if
we
can
go
to
slide
six,
we
did
measure
the
elevation.
Our
builder
main
build
measured.
The
elevation
from
the
elevation
of
the
street
to
the
point
at
which
for
the
sidewalk,
if
we
assume
a
five-foot,
parkway
and
a
five-foot
sidewalk,
and
then
assume
that
we
need
a
couple
feet
past
the
sidewalk
in
order
to
create
space
for
it.
What
we
found
is
that
there
is
about
a
six
foot
elevation
difference
so
excavating
for
a
normal
five
foot
parkway
and
a
normal
five
foot.
O
O
O
O
Our
understanding
of
that
is
that
it
would
create
essentially
a
12
and
a
half
foot
parkway,
which
is
significantly
broader
than
the
normal
requirements
of
the
city
street
plan.
In
addition
to
that,
we
think
it
would
really
we
think,
frankly,
any
sidewalk.
What
what
we've
been
told
by
the
arborist
who
reviewed
our
property.
We
did
hire
an
arborist.
We
had
every
tree
on
the
property,
tagged
and
evaluated,
and
what
we've
been
told
is
that
you
start
creating
danger
with
trees
when
you're
inside
the
drip
line.
O
You
can
see
that
any
sidewalk
would
be
inside
the
drip
line
of
this
very
large
and
healthy
oak.
That
is,
that
is
there
in
the
picture
and
if
we
were
to
follow
the
city
staff
suggestion
and
move
it
up
the
hill.
Basically,
we
would
be
very
close
to
that.
The
trunk
of
that
tree
and
what
you
can't
see
from
this
picture
is
directly
behind.
Where
I
was
standing
when
I
took
the
picture
is
another
similar
size
oak.
O
O
O
Jason
mentioned
that
there
is
a
city
fire
hydrant
that
is
seven
feet
from
the
street
at
the
west
end
of
the
property,
which
would
put
it
in
the
middle
of
a
sidewalk.
If
there's
a
five
foot
parkway,
and
if
we
move
the
sidewalk
to
the
north
of
the
hydrant,
it
would
again
threaten
that
other
large,
mature
oak
trees
root
system.
O
O
Another
part
we
haven't
really
talked
about
is
there's
a
request
to
put
parkway
trees
and
basically
our
feeling
is
we're
all
in
favor
of
trees.
We've
we've
actually
planted
six
new
trees
on
the
property.
Already
we
would
be
happy
to
plant
more,
but
planting
them
in
or
near.
The
ditch
is
not
a
good
place
for
the
trees
and
they're
unlikely
to
survive.
O
In
fact,
it's
nine
of
the
11
lots
that
you
were
shown
earlier
where
the
neighbors
were
were
notified.
The
next
point
says
three
directly
adjoining
lots:
I'm
actually
wrong
about
that.
There's
four
directly
adjoining
lots
and
they're
all
designed
and
constructed
consistently
with
the
requested
design.
O
In
addition,
the
design
alternative
requested
would
preserve
significant
canopied
areas
and
mature
trees
along
the
entire
north
side
of
the
2500
block,
and
it
would
eliminate
substantial
undue
adverse
impact
on
the
adjacent
property
if
we
can
go
to
slide.
12
here
is
a
aerial
photograph
of
the
area
which
you've
seen
before.
I
just
want
to
call
your
attention
to
the
lot
at
the
corner
of
24th
and
thornton
on
the
north
side
of
the
street.
O
O
There
isn't
currently
a
timeline
for
wen
thornton
or
24th
and
I'm
bringing
up
24th
because
in
order
to
get
to
bus
lines
or
schools
by
going
east,
you
would
have
to
have
sidewalks
all
the
way
to
floor
on
thornton
and
all
the
way
to
park
on
24th
and
there's
currently
no
plan
or
any
schedule
for
when
those
would
be
put
in.
If
we
can
move
to
slide
15.
O
Also,
the
move
des
moines
plan
indicates
that
it
will
take
17
years
to
complete
all
priority
one
sidewalks
and
now
thornton
is
in
the
priority
one
area,
but
it's
not
on
the
plan
through
2024
and
the
plan
itself
says
it
could
take
17
years
and
just
of
note,
I
got
a
little
chuckle
out
of
this.
The
irs
standards
for
the
useful
life
of
a
sidewalk
is
20
years,
so
we're
not
even
sure
that
it
would
ever
be
used
during
the
useful
life
if
we
build
it
now.
O
O
Last
thing
I
would
say
is
that
having
walked
that
block
multiple
times
now,
if
and
when
the
city
wants
to
put
in
sidewalks,
I
think
on
the
north
side
of
the
street.
The
best
place
for
a
sidewalk
would
be
immediately
adjacent
to
a
curb
when
the
street
actually
has
curves,
and
we
would
be
supportive
of
that-
we're
not
against
sidewalks.
We
just
think
putting
one
in
right
now
on.
Our
lot
does
not
make
sense.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
N
H
G
Yeah
we've
we've
had
a
couple
instances
where
there's
been.
It's
called
a
waiver
petition.
I
believe,
and
it
gives
up
rights
to
theoretically
gives
up
rights
to
protesting
a
future
assessment.
We
typically
have
not
used
assessment
in
des
moines
of
sidewalks
so
likely
it
would
never
get
to
that
point.
I
think
the
other
thing
we
have
done,
though,
is
we
have
done
some
escrows
for
some
improvements,
and
maybe
glenna
could
speak
to
whether
that
would
apply
for
a
residential
project.
G
C
Yes,
hello,
this
is
glenna
frank
with
the
legal
department
and
mike
is
correct.
What
we've
done
recently
have
been
escrow
agreements
for
this
type
of
purpose,
and
I
think
that
seems
like
the
most
reasonable
option,
as
well
as
the
most
realistic,
because,
as
mike
mentioned,
the
city
doesn't
typically
do
assessments
for.
J
You
can
help
me
understand.
I
actually
was
part
of
that
project
in
sherman
hill,
that
mike
mentioned,
but
with
an
escrow
agreement.
Would
that
mean
that
the
applicant
would
need
to
actually
put
all
that
money
into
escrow
and
it
could
sit
there
until
the
city
decides
to
take
it
and
build
build
the
project?
J
C
This
is
glenna
frank
again
and
yes,
that
is
correct.
What
we've
done
with
the
other
projects
that
you've
seen
have
an
escrow
agreement
is
that
they
have
deposited
funds
with
the
city
pursuant
to
an
agreement.
The
agreement
is
sent
to
city
council
for
approval
and
then
that
money
sits
sits
in
an
account
until
such
time
as
either
they
do
the
work
or
the
city
does
the
work.
A
J
Again,
I'm
sorry
go
ahead,
so
we're
in
board
discussion
correct.
Yes,
we're
in
board
discussion.
I
kind
of
struggle
with
this
one
I'll
just
throw
a
few
thoughts
on
the
table
for
folks
from
the
board.
You
know
I
live
in
south
beaverdale,
which
means
I
have
plenty
of
streets
around
me
that
affect
my.
My
own
street
I
live
on,
does
not
have
sidewalks
and
there's
some
that
do
and-
and
I
I'm
in
complete
support
of
creating
safe
walkable
environments.
J
J
You
know
that
people
walk
up
and
down
the
street
and
cars
go
slow
and
people
wave
at
each
other.
So
sometimes
that's
just
part
of
the
character
in
these
neighborhoods,
and
so
I
don't
know
that
it's
a
one
size
fits
all
and-
and
I
was
on
google
earth
looking
at
this
street
and
there's
definitely
a
chunk
of
street
here
it
looks
like
you're
in
rural
iowa.
It's
not.
J
E
Mr
von
everest
was
good
enough
to
say
that
they're
interested
in
helping
support
the
the
plan
whenever
the
sidewalk
is
implemented,
but
if
he,
if
the
wave
petition
could
could
might
or
someone
discuss
that
a
little
bit
fuller
so
that
there
would
be
a
record
of
of
the
applicant's
ability
or
to
hold
the
project
when
it's
or
not
to
oppose
the
assessment
when
it's
considered
by
the
city,
could
someone
unpack
their
thoughts
about
that
again?
For
me,
please.
G
Yep
well,
this
is
mike
ludwig
playing
administrator
again
on
sidewalk
projects.
The
council
has
not
typically
done
assessments
on
projects,
so
the
fact
that
the
applicant
would
sign
a
waiver
to
oppose
an
assessment.
It
still
takes
the
council
deciding
to
do
it
doesn't
mean
that
a
future
council
might
not
think
differently
than
past
councils
and
may
decide
to
start
assessing
for
sidewalks,
but
at
this
time
that's
not
the
typical
process.
That's
that
our
council
has
pursued.
E
D
D
D
B
G
F
D
I
I
It's
it's
bounded
by
a
mobile
home
community,
on
the
north
and
on
the
west.
The
army
post
road
corridor
in
this
area
was
designated
as
rx1
by
the
new
code
that
took
effect
in
december
of
2019.
The
rx1
is
one
of
the
least
intense
commercial
districts
that
we
have
and
I
believe
the
reason
that
this
corridor
was
designated
as
rx1
was
just
given
the
narrow
depths
of
many
of
the
lots
and
the
fact
that
they
are
in
very
close
proximity
to
a
lot
of
low
density
residential
properties.
I
I
I
should
also
mention
that
if
the
rezoning
is
approved,
they
would
then
have
to
submit
a
site
plan
for
review
and
consideration
by
city
staff.
The
site
plan
hasn't
been
submitted
yet,
but
I
would
mention
that
it's
eligible
for
administrative
rep
approval,
but
if
they
do
need
any
design
guidelines
to
be
waived,
they
would
be
back
in
front
of
the
commission
on
a
future
agenda.
I
I'm
not
seeing
my
staff
recommendation
here,
but
we
are
recommending
that
the
uses
of
the
property
be
limited
to
any
use
allowed
in
rx1,
plus
we
had
said
plus
vehicle
maintenance
and
repair
minor
and
that
vehicle
maintenance
and
repair
miner
subcategory
would
allow
for
this
list
or
these
uses
here
that
are
on
the
screen
right
now.
Are
there
really
any
use
that
repairs
installs
or
maintains
the
mechanical
components
of
vehicles
or
that
wash
clean
or
otherwise
protect
the
exterior
interior
services
of
such
vehicles?
I
I
As
far
as
the
neighborhood
communications
that
we
received,
we
received
this
one
email
that
I
have
on
the
screen
right
now
from
a
neighbor,
a
few
doors
to
the
east,
so
they
were
really
concerned
about
other
commercial
uses
being
allowed
on
the
property,
but
the
this
second
paragraph
here
is
the
most
critical.
It
says
that
if
there's
a
condition
stating
that
the
rezoning
could
be
granted
for
the
auto
detailing
business
only
they
would
have
no
problem
with
it.
I
So,
as
I
mentioned,
our
recommendation
was
to
allow
really
any
use
in
rx1
plus
vehicle
maintenance
and
repair
miner,
so
it
would
allow
for
a
few
more
uses
than
just
what
this
email
asks
for
and
then
we
had
this
card
here
come
back
in
opposition,
but
if
you
read
it,
it
says
I'm
not
in
favor.
If
this
can
be
turned
into
another
car
lot
well,
our
staff
recommendation
would
not
allow
for
the
car
lot
use
and
then
we
just
had
this
other
card
come
back.
Blank,
and
here
is
the
consent
map.
K
I
A
J
J
I
appreciate
you
giving
me
the
time
to
address
you
today.
I
represent
mcfadden
holdings,
the
owner
of
the
property,
and
I
also
represent
the
tenant
there.
The
young
man
named
anthony
capasca
anthony,
moved
in
to
or
began
to
occupy
that
property.
I
think
back
in
april
and
put
quite
a
bit
of
his
own
money
into
trying
to
get
the
inside
of
the
building
that
you've
seen
up
to
par
and
invested.
J
J
J
I
did
receive
one
comment
from
from
somebody:
the
comments
that
I've
seen-
I
guess
in
opposition
to
this,
to
the
extent
that
really
in
opposition
to
the
zoning
really
don't
have
much
to
do
with
the
zoning.
I
mean
I
think,
as
bert
recognized
rightfully
so
a
lot
of
the
commentary
just
has
to
do
with
conditions
that
are
sorry
for
uses
that
really
won't
be
contemplated
by
the
conditions
that
the
staff
are
putting
on
this
free
zoning
request.
J
J
He
he
does
plan
to
perhaps
sell
a
vehicle
or
two
out
of
there
at
times.
I
know
he's
done
that
in
the
past,
so
I
I
would
like
to
see
that
stay
in.
If
we
could
it's
not
going
to
turn
into
a
car
lot,
where
he's
selling
a
bunch
of
used
cars
out
of
there
every
day,
he
needs
the
space
to
detailing
business.
But
that
is
something
he's
done
and
he's
you
know
bought
a
couple
two
or
three
cars.
I
Madam
chair,
this
is
bert.
I
did
want
to
clarify
the
staff
recommendation
which
the
applicant
might
want
to
respond
to.
Okay,
as
commissioner
chung
has
said,
vehicle
sales
and
service,
comma
vehicle
maintenance,
repair,
this
vehicle
sales
and
service.
Here,
that's
actually
the
category
in
the
use
table
that
vehicle
maintenance
and
repair
miner
falls
under,
so
it
wouldn't
actually
allow
for
the
vehicle
sales
and
service.
I
So
if
you
look
at
our
use
table,
the
category
is
called
vehicle
sales
and
service
which
allows
like
fuel
stations,
vehicle
sales,
vehicle
rental,
vehicle
maintenance,
finder
and
vehicle
maintenance
major.
So
our
recommendation
would
only
be
allow
only
to
allow
uses
that
fall
under
this
line
in
the
table.
That
says
vehicle
maintenance
or
repair
miner.
J
Yeah,
can
you
hear
me
yes,
okay?
Well
yeah
I
mean
I
I
guess
I
was
a
little
confused
by
that.
I
I
thought
that
everything
listed
there
in
proviso
one
would
be
allowed,
but
but
as
it
is,
I
mean
the
main
thing
that
anthony's
doing
there
is
his
vehicle
maintenance,
repair,
minor,
he's
doing,
auto
detailing
and
and
everything
that's
really
contemplated
by
vehicle
maintenance
repair.
J
A
L
I
Yeah
well,
as
the
condition
is
drafted
right
now,
like
I
said
this
vehicle
sales
and
service-
that's
really
just
the
category
that
the
vehicle,
maintenance
and
repair
miner
subcategory
falls
under.
So
really
this
section
here
taken
directly
from
city
code,
section
134-3.5.19
d
again
this
is
the
staff
recommendation
that
these
would
any
use
that
would
meet
this
criteria
here
on
the
screen
now
would
be
allowed,
so
that
would
not
cover
vehicle
sales
or
like
major
vehicle
repair,
which
would
be
like
auto
body.
I
I
I
B
F
D
K
K
B
C
F
G
Department,
erin,
olson
douglas,
will
be
the
director
and
I'll,
be
the
deputy
director
of
that
and
then
we'll
be
back
filling
a
planning,
administrator
position
and
also
a
deputy
planning
administrator
position
for
the
city
in
the
coming
months.
So,
and
so
anyway,
we
will
have
some
new
hires
coming
on
board
to
help
implement
the
new
code
and
the
comp
plan
and
continue
planning
for
des
moines.