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Plan And Zoning Commission 3/5/2020 - City of Des Moines, Iowa
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A
Welcome
to
the
Planning
and
Zoning
Commission
meeting
tonight,
I'll
read
the
rules
and
procedures.
The
plan
and
Zoning
Commission
is
generally
an
advisory
body
to
the
City
Council.
The
City
Council
will
hold
a
public
hearing
and
make
the
final
decision
on
all
matters
before
the
Commission
other
than
site
plans
and
some
division
plots
unless
denials
or
conditional
approvals
thereof
are
appealed.
Please
contact
the
city,
clerk
or
Community
Development
Department
staff
for
details
on
council
hearings.
A
The
applicant
will
be
given
ten
minutes
to
present
the
request
proponents,
and
then
opponents
from
the
public
are
then
allowed
to
speak
in
that
order
with
each
speaker
allowed
a
maximum
of
five
minutes
applicant
is
then
allowed
five
minutes
for
rebuttal.
The
hearing
will
then
be
closed
and
the
Commission
will
discuss
and
vote
on
the
issue.
All
comments
are
to
be
germane
to
the
item
under
consideration
and
speakers
are
to
maintain
a
courteous
manner.
A
Items
listed
on
the
consent
portion
of
the
agenda
will
not
be
individually
discussed
and
will
be
considered
for
approval,
in
accordance
with
the
recommendation
in
the
staff
report,
unless
an
individual
present
or
a
member
of
the
Commission
requests
that
an
item
be
removed
from
the
consent
agenda
and
considered
separately
under
the
public
key
and
agenda.
The
City
of
Des
Moines
is
pleased
to
provide
accommodations
to
individuals
or
groups
with
disabilities
and
encourages
participation
in
city
government.
Assistive
listening
devices
are
available
for
meetings
in
the
MFC
boardroom
to
better
serve
you
when
possible.
A
Please
notify
us
at
least
three
business
days
in
advance
at
five
one,
five,
two
eight
three,
four
two,
oh
nine,
should
special
accommodations
be
required.
Planning
and
Zoning.
Commission
meetings
are
broadcast
on
Mediacom,
cable
channel
seven
point
one
or
seven
point
two
for
customers.
With
that
service
we
do
have
a
quorum.
Thank
you.
A
A
A
Determination
as
to
whether
the
requested
rezoning
is,
in
conformance
with
the
plan
dsm,
creating
our
tomorrow
comprehensive
plan,
rezone
properties
from
p2,
public
Civic
and
institutional
district
to
DX
to
downtown
district
to
allow
for
expansion
of
the
existing
temporary
shelter
for
additional
multiple
household
living
units.
An
area
for
service
provision.
A
There
anyone
on
the
in
the
audience
who
wants
to
hear
this
item,
anyone
on
the
Commission,
okay,
number,
two
requests
from
Des
Moines
cold-storage
represented
by
CJ
Morton
for
review
and
approval
of
a
PU,
deep
final
development
plan
for
a
phase:
one
hey
of
Des
Moines,
cold
storage
located
at
3805
Vandalia
Road,
to
allow
the
sixty
two
thousand
six
hundred
and
eighty
square
foot
addition
to
the
existing
refrigerated
warehouse
building
there.
Anyone
in
the
audience
who
wants
to
hear
this
item.
B
Three
we're
recommending
it
was
on
the
consent,
but
we're
recommending
continuance
based
on
the
applicant,
contacted
us
and
was
not
able
to
set
up
their
neighborhood
meeting
and
so
under
the
code.
They
really
can't
proceed
with
an
action
on
it,
so
the
you
it
could
be
tabled
to
for
two
weeks
it
could
be
tabled
for
a
month
depending
on
the
Commission's,
will
I
guess:
I
have
the
sense
they're
ready
to
set
that
up
and
have
that
meeting.
C
B
A
I'll
read
request
from
qfl
development,
represented
by
john
larson
for
review
and
approval
of
a
preliminary
plat
Woodberry
on
property
located
in
the
vicinity
of
the
3401
block
of
East
56th
Street,
to
allow
the
property
to
be
divided
into
84
Lots
for
one
household
development
to
that
to
do
two
lots
for
multiple
multi
household
development
and
out
lot
for
stormwater
management,
and/or,
open
space
additional
subject:
property
is
owned
by
jail,
arts
and
homes.
Yeah.
B
So
the
property
property
in
question
the
Commission's
familiar:
they
went
through
a
rezoning
in
the
fall
and
then
the
new
zoning
ordinance
superseded,
but
the
zoning
is
reflective
generally
of
what
was
approved
in
in
the
previous
code.
You
have
an
area
two
sub
areas
that
are
zoned
n,
2,
B
and
n
2.
A
each
of
them
allow
different
standards
for
the
house,
type
D
that
would
be
constructed
and
that's
generally,
the
house
type
that
would
be
built
in
new
development
throughout
the
perimeter
of
the
city.
B
The
other
Lots
to
the
east
are
accessed
by
a
drive
that
is
going
to
allow
for
separate
development
plans
for
those
foresight
plans
for
those
areas.
It's
conceivable
that
those
may
come
back
with
design
exceptions
depending
on
the
specific
building
type
design
that
gets
built
there,
but
that
is
zoned
annex
to
and
allows
for
multi
household
development,
so
that
would
be
anticipated.
There
I
think
they're
still
planning
to
follow
through
with
the
same
program
they
had
back
when
they
initially
tried
to
rezone
this
in
the
fall
so
or
last
last
year.
B
B
That's
going
to
serve
as
open
space
for
their
site,
they're
gonna
I'll!
Let
the
designer
get
up
here
and
go
over
it,
but
they're
gonna
reef,
reconfigure
this
to
serve
the
stormwater
needs
and
they've
they've
done
design
work,
they're
reshaping
of
the
property
to
ensure
that
water
that
comes
in
that's
coming
on
the
west,
through
the
property
to
the
west,
is
managed
properly
and
get
taken
to
where
it
needs
to
go
for
any
detention
required
and
that
that
shouldn't
be
an
impact
in
a
hundred
year
or
less
frequent
storms.
B
The
and
I'll
let
the
designer
again
kind
of
explain
any
nuances
if
you're
curious
about
how
that
works
for
that
situation,
but
I
think
that
was
kind
of
the
big
issue.
The
other
thing
that
was
concerned
kind
of
initially
was
the
fire
access
and
that's
been
addressed
for
the
areas
to
the
east.
The
challenge
to
the
east,
of
course,
is
getting
access
to
it
because
you're
not
coming
through
the
flood
area
and
if
the
church
is
preventing
access
from
the
north
directly,
so
that
was
the
fire
marshal's
office
or
fire
prevention.
B
Looked
at
that
and
they're
they're
satisfied
with
what
what's
being
proposed
now
with
all
the
radius
is
on
the
streets
and
everything
and
then
the
trail,
the
parks
staff
has
worked
with
them
to
provide
the
trail
alignment,
that's
shown
in
the
preliminary
plot.
I
think
they
will
continue
to
work
with
parks
to
when
that
Parks
is
ready
to
move
on
that
project,
because
they're
gonna
have
to
also
coordinate
with
other
properties
to
the
south
and
north
to
get
that
realignment
to
occur.
B
E
B
We
want
to
make
sure
that
there's
an
easement
provided
for
the
trail
that
parks
and
recreation
is
shown.
They
may
not
show
exactly
as
it
is
on
the
preliminary
plat,
but
once
there's
a
final
plat,
we
will
want
that
defined
so
that
that
gets
dedicated
with
the
final
plan,
but
there
so
there
show
it's
shown
generally
in
the
preliminary
plat
final
plat
will
have
to
be
consistent
with
that.
A
B
F
F
Whew
qsl
development
and
Jay
Larson
holmes,
john
Larson,
as
the
developer
and
owner
of
both
both
of
the
entities
on
this
site,
approximately
65
acres
located
just
east
of
East
56th
Street,
the
65
bypass
as
Erica
explained.
This
is
a
floodplain
down
there.
It's
a
creek
area.
This
is
a
site
where
the
end
to
a
zoning
is
from
here
north.
F
That's
for
correcting
that
Eric,
but
three
Lots
over
here
will
be
a
future
preliminary
plat,
but
I
mean
we
went
through
the
rezoning
last
year
in
July
August
it
was
just
there
was
an
intent
or
the
the
requirements
at
that
time
was
to
kind
of
show
intent,
so
we'll
come
back
and
get
that
modified
and
probably
has
some
design
options
or
alternatives
on
that
in
the
future.
So
if
you
first
phase
the
development
that
they're
looking
at
is
approximately
this
this
area
up
and
through
here.
F
So
we
are
working
through
this
has
an
existing
pond
in
this
area
that
will
be
enhanced
to
provide
the
storm
water
quality
and
water
quality
quantity
that
is
required.
We've
done
it
done
an
extensive
modeling,
a
swim
model
which
is
a
very
extensive
model
on
how
the
stormwater
works
into
the
site
through
the
site
detains
and
then
location
we
will
be
required
to,
and
we
are
working
with
the
DNR
on
a
dam
permit
for
that
existing
pond.
F
It's
a
newer
pond,
but
it
would
never
did
get
a
dam
permit,
so
we're
keeping
the
embankment
of
the
pond
in
place
and
kind
of
enlarging
it
to
provide
the
required
storm
water
through
this
that's
required
the
city
of
the
north,
so
utilities
wre
brought
a
sanitary
sewer
up
through
here
it
was
last
year,
I
think
they
did
the
construction
of
it.
So
that's
available
for
us
to
connect
on
to
and
extend,
and
we
have
the
roadways
itself
and
then
water
is
located
along
56th
Street.
F
There
are
some
pretty
major
encumbrances
with
gas
main
coming
up
through
here
and
also
overhead
transmission
high-voltage
overhead
transmission
through
here.
So,
besides
the
floodplain
and
the
interstate-
and
we
have
all
these
other
things
that
were
kind
of
working
around
and
and
working
through
that
process
with
those
different
entities
itself
during
the
course
of
approval
at
the
council,
there
was
see
this.
It
might
be
easier
on
this
side
that
the
count
one
of
the
council
members
prior
to
this
layout.
We
have
just
lots
here
with
side
yard
swales
to
accommodate.
F
There's
two
points
of
flow
coming
from
this
lot
here,
council
member
requested
that
we
not
have
lots
there.
So,
as
you
can
see
with
this
design,
this
whole
area,
we
removed
those
three
Lots
in
here
and
so
that
he
comes
down
out
lot
owned
by
the
association.
So
we're
not
trying
to
set
the
amount
of
fool
coming
off
our
neighbor
to
the
west
in
between
the
lot
lines
so
from
there
we
gathered
at
up,
take
it
through
a
large
box
and
out
into
the
pond
so
on
the
south.
Here.
F
And
the
south,
currently
air
flows
go
on
to
the
neighbor
and
then
down
and
out
we're
doing
a
console
gathering
it
here
and
in
a
box
boy
that
she's
little
off
site,
taking
it
down
to
that
same
area,
the
small
sump
and
then
out
letting
into
the
pond
that
kind
of
shows
them
the
pond
and
the
different
levels
of
the
pond
that
we're
doing
with
that
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
on
any
of
the
items
on
the
fund.
A
plat
do.
A
G
G
G
G
If
you
look
at
the
contour
lines
of,
it
is
a
three
foot,
maybe
a
three
foot
depression
in
the
ground,
and
so
as
it
relates
to
draining
off
my
property
so
that
the
water
doesn't
stand
on
my
property
I,
don't
know
if
it
does,
that
or
not
I
have
to
believe
the
civil
engineers
look
at
these
things
and
they
decide
how
this
is
gonna
work.
I
am
also
interested
in
the
hundred-year
flood
data.
G
I,
don't
know
when
that
hundred
years
started
and
when
the
next
hundred
years
hits
I
just
know
that
every
year,
in
a
two
to
three
inch
rain
which
does
occur,
we're
draining
the
the
property
that
is
on
the
west
side
of
56th
through
two
culverts
that
run
on
both
sides
of
my
property.
It
runs
15
foot
wide
and
about
a
foot
and
a
half
deep.
G
It
is
a
lot
of
water,
and
so,
as
that
gets
down
on
the
East
End
of
my
property,
it
kind
of
splits
off
into
two
in
two
directions,
but
generally
runs
to
the
pond.
So
with
what
Snyder
says
has
proposed
here
with
an
out
lot
in
a
anyway
for
that
water
to
run
off
absorb,
however,
it's
going
to
leave
there.
I,
don't
know
if
that
works
or
not.
I
would
simply
ask
for
time
to
take
a
look
at
it.
G
I'll
get
a
civil
engineer,
they'll
come
out
and
basically
read
the
plans
and
tell
me:
is
this
gonna
work
or
not
so
the
last
time
I
was
here
was
July.
I
was
here
for
the
past
two
hearings
that
it
was
on
the
agenda
didn't
get
briefed,
but
generally
that
is
a
lot
of
time
for
Snyder
&,
Associates
and
john
Larson
and
I
have
respect
for
both
of
them
they're
very
successful
in
their
businesses.
G
They
had
eight
months
to
prepare
what
you
see
today.
I
had
30
minutes
to
prepare
something
in
response,
so
I
would
just
ask
for
more
time
before
it's
approved,
I
in
and
as
I
said,
the
last
time,
the
property
line
that
runs
between
Karen
Armstrong
and
myself,
everything
north
of
that
it
has
no
effect
on
me.
None
whatsoever,
and
so
I
think
that
that
was
approved
before
and
I
assume
that
it's
still
approved
I
have
no
objection
to
any
of
that.
G
A
F
Breck
hope,
Snyder,
&,
Associates
and
we've
been
working.
I've
got
four
engineers
are
engineers
in
our
office
has
been
working
on
a
very
extensive
swim
model.
That's
associated
with
this.
We've
worked
with
city
staff.
We've
got
two
engineers
down
there.
We've
been
working
with,
probably
since
December
working
through
all
these
questions
and
stuff,
so
I
mean
this
has
been
looked
at
and
double
looked
at.
F
D
F
F
All
right
currently
on
insight
part
of
our
site
flows
onto
his
site,
there's
a
swale
that
comes
down
through
here
and
a
swale
that
gums
down
through
here.
These
pipes,
outlet
here
on
the
west
side
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
the
basins
are
built,
will
be
a
storm
water,
detention,
basins
and
kind
of
the
metered
flow
there.
We
opened
all
of
this
up
here
and
set
the
road
elevation
at
a
moment,
please
that
said
at
106
106.
F
H
F
42
inch
pipe
here
this
is
a
24
and
this
one's
of
24.
So
what
we
did
at
this
location
that
you
put
a
big
5x5
box
is
open
on
all
five
all
four
sides:
100-year
pipe
out,
plus
we
set
the
run
at
an
elevation
when
this
starts
filling
up.
It'll
go
over
the
road
before
it
flows
back
onto
that
or
wouldn't
flow
back
on
it,
which
is
build
up
and
go
back
on
so
I
mean
we've
looked
at
that
in
great
detail.
F
We've
collected
we've
cut
off
the
water
that
used
to
flow
toward
him
cut
it
off
here.
I
put
an
intake
in
here,
put
100-year
pipe
once
again
along
in
here,
and
that
would
overflow
down
to
our
street.
So
we've
eliminated
a
lot
of
flow
that
used
to
go
onto
there.
That's
not
going
to
flow
in
there
plus
we
set
this
at
an
elevation
with
the
size
of
pipe
to
lower
flow
and
head
to
the
pond
fired,
causing
damage
on
the
upstream
property.
F
B
B
F
B
G
Just
put
put
the
issue
of
the
trees
in
perspective:
there
are
no
trees
except
for
well
they're,
two
trees,
but
there's
only
one
that
is
in
the
area
that
I'm
talking
about
and
I
and
I.
Don't
I,
don't
know
if
they're
going
to
take
the
big
weeping
willow
tree
down
it's
about
a
75
year
old
tree,
it's
a
beautiful
tree,
I
hope
they're,
not
taking
that
down,
but
I,
don't
think
that's
the
tree!
They're
talking
about
all
those
trees
are
to
the
south
of
my
property.
G
So
the
area
that
I'm
talking
about
again
is
just
directly
east
of
my
property,
so
nothing
to
the
north.
Nothing
to
the
south
concerns
me
with
regards
to
the
runoff
of
water
from
the
property.
I,
do
appreciate
what
they're
talking
about
on
the
south
side
of
the
property.
With
regard
to
how
they're
going
to
get
that
water
to
run
off
it.
G
That
doesn't
mean
that
much
to
me
over
there
anything
that
they
do
on
the
south
side
of
the
property.
It's
a
forest
reserve
right
now.
It
can
only
beautify
the
area
but
again
directly
east
of
the
property
by
the
pond.
That
is
that's
the
area
that
I'm
asking
give
me
time.
Allow
me
to
have
a
civil
engineer,
come
in
and
explain
what
is
going
to
happen
and
then
that
person
can
tell
me
about
100-year
flood
data,
whether
that
is
correct
or
not
I
don't
know
it.
G
A
G
G
I
My
opinion
is
that
Snyder
&
Associates
has
looked
at
it,
and
city
staff
has
looked
at
it
and
what
I
see
as
the
proposal
he's
not
worried
about
the
Southside
he's
worried
about
what
comes
off
the
west
through
the
two
pipes
and
sides
sideswipes
his
property
and
heads
off
to
the
east.
What
Bret
has
told
us
is
that
the
the
top
level
of
the
road
that
they're
proposing
through
there
is
below
the
elevation
of
his
property.
I
So
to
me,
the
water
that's
flowing
from
those
two
pipes
beside
his
property
is
going
to
flow
down
to
the
sump
through
a
box
culvert
and
if
it
gets
too
full,
it's
still
gonna
flow
across
the
top
of
the
road.
So
it's
not
going
to
affect
his
property.
So
in
my
opinion,
as
a
landscape
architect
and
not
an
engineer,
he's
gonna
waste
his
money
by
hiring
an
engineer,
but
that's
just
me
so
I
would
say
we
should
pass
it
on.
But
that's
my
opinion.
J
C
C
I
Always
learned
that
as
I
called
it
a
free
out,
so
no
matter
what
the
mechanical
device
is,
the
pipes
and
everything
you
put
stuff
in.
You
still
need
it's
a
stream,
and
so
you
don't
want
to
impede
the
stream,
and
so
that
low
point
is
lower
than
than
a
floor
elevation
or
whatever
you
don't
want
to
screw
up,
and
so
it
is
so
to
me.
We've
provided
the
free
out
that
that
allows
it
to
flow
away.
E
A
B
B
The
final
plat
will
be
for
the
first
phase
of
this
would
go
through
the
City
Council,
so
if
he
wants
to
track
it
through
the
process
and
we'll
make
available
anything
in
the
record,
that's
submitted
for
review
or
approval
administrative
Lea
vailable
to
him.
If
he
wants
to
take
that
to
his,
you
know
people
that
he
wants
to
have
a
look
at
it,
but
so,
as
this
moves
forward,
there's
still
opportunity
for
him
to
in
in
weigh
in
on
the
process.
I
should
say
well.