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From YouTube: 3-8-21 City Council
Description
Des Moines City Council regular meeting via teleconference on Monday, March 8, 2021. Includes public hearing for FY2022 annual budget.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/CouncilAtHome
A
C
B
So
mayor
before
we
get
started,
if
that's
okay,
I'd
like
confirmation
that
individuals
that
receive
the
initial
link
will
get
sent
to
the
proper
link
if
they
try
to
activate
that.
B
E
G
G
C
J
I
I
I
C
C
A
N
I
want
to
quickly
note
the
time
it's
4
33
we're
going
to
quickly
begin
the
miserable
housing
agency
governing
board
meeting
and
I'll.
Ask
the
clerk
to
please
take
roll
of
the
board.
H
C
F
F
N
I
do
see
one
hand
up
of
viola
perry
viola
you
want
to.
Let
me
come
in.
O
Oh
no
mayor,
no,
that
wasn't
the
item.
I
was
looking
at
sorry
about
that.
N
N
We're
good
any
discussion,
counselor
or
board.
If
not,
could
we
have
a
motion.
N
Would
you
please
pull
the
board.
C
J
C
N
All
right
that
brings
us
to
the
end
of
our
agenda
for
the
municipal
housing
agency
governing
board.
Could
we
have
a
motion
to
adjourn.
N
It's
been
moved
all
in
favor,
say:
aye
aye,
any
opposition
hearing,
none.
That
concludes
the
missable
housing
agency
governing
board
meeting.
Let's
move
right
into
the
des
moines
city
council
meeting.
The
time
is:
4
38
call
the
meeting
to
order,
and
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
please
take
roll
the
des
moines
city
council.
C
N
N
K
N
Q
N
Any
opposition:
the
agenda
is
approved,
item
three's,
approving
the
consent
agenda
tonight.
Those
are
items
three
through
fifty
quickly
item
five.
I
vote
no
item.
32
member
gray,
votes,
no
item,
49,
gatto
and
westergard.
Both
vote.
No.
A
N
No
because
he
has
not
checked
in
yet,
I
think
we're
not
going
to
allow
his.
N
A
N
All
right,
let's
ask
the
attendees:
anybody
have
any
items.
C
N
N
Is
amending
chapter
114
of
the
municipal
code
regarding
traffic
regulation
changes
as
follows:
this
is
council
communication
number
21-115
a
is
a
code
modification
related
to
the
conley
lofts
public
improvement
project
on
raccoon
street
between
southeast
6th
and
southeast
7th
streets
and
b
is
a
parking
restriction,
revision
on
cherry
street
between
8th
and
9th
streets.
N
Council,
any
any
comments
on
these.
N
C
N
N
Any
comments
regarding
chapter
50,
the
miscible
code
relating
to
flood
plain
development.
R
K
C
K
N
Right
this
brings
us
to
our
communications
and
reports
and
essentially
our
public
speaking
items.
N
N
Please
keep
your
own
time
because
at
the
end
of
one
minute
45
seconds,
the
clerk
is
going
to
announce
time
and
the
speaker's
mic
is
going
to
be
closed
and
we
will
move
immediately
to
the
next
speaker.
You
know
we
want
to
hear
from
all
the
citizens
and
we
encourage
citizens
to
be
respectful
of
others
viewpoints
that
are
different
from
your
own.
N
N
Fair
warning,
arguing
with
a
presiding
officer
about
the
determination,
is
not
permitted
and
doing
so
will
also
be
considered,
disruptive
and
resulting
speaker
being
barred
from
further
comments.
Let's
go
ahead
and
get
started.
Our
first
speaker
this
evening
is
adam
cowan.
Adam.
S
Hello,
my
name
is
adam
callanan.
I
use
hem
pronouns.
I
want
to
start
off
expressing
some
confusion
over
the
fact
that
the
city
clerk
for
some
reason
just
overruled
a
council
member
on
whether
or
not
we
get
public
comment
on
the
earlier
section.
It
seems
like
that
decision
should
be
made
by
the
mayor
or
somebody
else,
but
could
just
be
confused
on
the
rules
anyway.
Today
is
a
very
stressful
day
for
a
lot
of
us.
S
S
First
off
with
the
bad
zoom
links
that
made
this
meeting
start
like
18
minutes
early,
I'm
kind
of
confused
as
to
how
that
was
just
fixed
before
this,
because
I
read
to
these
agendas-
and
I
figured
that
out
last
thursday
that
the
zoom
links
were
messed
up.
I
was
hoping
that
somebody
in
council
would
be
you
know,
actually
reading
the
agendas
and
noticing
that
the
links
were
messed
up,
but
apparently
they
don't
just
wanted
to
call
that
out.
S
S
I
think
it
smells
a
bit
worse
than
that,
but
apparently
the
update
of
the
odor
control
board
was
that
we
aren't
doing
anything
with
it
yet
and
we're
training
people
to
smell
whether
or
not
something
smells
like
dog
poo,
which
I
don't
think
people
need
to
be
trained
on
whether
or
not
dog
poo
smells
bad,
so
it
just
to
me.
It
seems
very
odd
that
that
is
what's
happening
with
that
also
conflict
of
interest.
I
don't
really
know
what
to
say
other
than
it's
very
clear.
S
A
J
N
J
A
T
Okay,
so
tonight
I
didn't
really
have
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
time
to
prepare
for
what
I
was
going
to
say
today.
I
was
planning
on
just
kind
of
bringing
up
the
fact
that
I've
been
in
a
constituent
in
part
four.
I
have
no
representation
in
the
council.
T
There
is
literally
no
one
in
the
control
that
lives
in
my
wards,
and
I
have
yet
to
you
know
I
guess
come
across
a
valid
reason
as
to
why
someone
would
be
allowed
to
represent
a
ward
when
they're,
not
even
part
of
the
award.
I
I
feel
like
having
someone
representing
ward
4,
who
is
a
business
owner
in
the
world,
is
sort
of
a
conflict
of
interest,
and
so
that
has
been
really
frustrating
and
and
a
little
bit
confusing
for
me.
T
So
I
would
appreciate
you
know
I
guess
an
explanation
or
or
some
type
of
valid
reason
as
to
why
you
mayor
county,
would
allow
joe
battle
to
represent
a
ward
where
he
does
not
reside
in
also.
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
shout
out
tomorrow.
There's
a
there's
going
to
be
a
memorial
for
the
covet
and
people
who
died
due
to
covet
in
iowa,
and
it's
going
to
be
at
1
pm
and
on
the
west
side
of
the
capitol
building.
T
So
I
think
that
you
know
it
is
important
for
us
as
a
community
to
mourn
together
and
and
take.
You
know
the
steps
that
we
need
to
to
move
forward
and
to
help
those
that
were
affected
by
like
covet
19.
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to.
I
guess,
use
the
rest
of
my
time
to
express
how
first
training
it
is
to
have
a
console
where
I
don't
feel
represented.
Where
there's
no,
you
know
my
the
person.
J
N
N
K
J
V
Okay,
my
name
is
vanessa
morin.
I
use
she
her
pronouns,
so
sick
and
tired
of
listening
to
you
all.
But
here
we
are-
and
here
I
go-
you
spend
a
lot
of
time
and
effort
explaining
your
new
rules
that
you
and
the
rest
of
the
council
made
up
throughout
the
last
year
prior
to
public
reporting.
So
every
time
we're
getting
ready
to
speak,
you
spout
off
a
list
of
new
rules
that
you
and
the
council
made
up
with
mr
lester
or
whatever
the
heck.
V
His
name
is,
and
it's
really
triggering
to
be
honest
and
that's
why
I'm
having
trouble
speaking
right
now
but
anyways
moving
on
since
I've
been
attending
and
speaking
at
these
meetings
since
last
summer,
I've
been
asking
you
guys,
the
same
question
over
and
over
in
multiple
different
forms,
which
is
when?
Is
it
a
good
time
for
the
public
to
have
discussions
with
the
council
because
you've
spent
so
much
time
and
effort
to
make
up
new
rules
and
whatnot
to
silence
the
public?
V
But
it's
your
job
to
listen
to
us
and
to
represent
what
we
want.
So
when
is
it
a
good
time?
You
guys
need
to
put
this
on
the
agenda
and
explain
to
us
in
the
community
when
you
want
to
hear
from
us.
We
want
to
have
discussions
with
you.
We
want
to
make
des
moines
better.
All
you
guys
are
doing
is
sitting
in
cahoots
with
your
little
real
estate
state
buddies,
making
ordinances
and
codes
to
get
away
with
all
your
corruption.
V
W
Hello
council,
my
name
is
chelsea
chisholm
vargas,
my
pronouns.
Are
she
her
aya
I'd
like
to
begin
by
mayor
county?
One
thing
that
I've
noticed
in
council
meetings
is
you
often
will
refer
to
folks
as
citizens
in
these
meetings?
That's
a
legal
term,
a
legal
way
to
identify
someone.
So
if
you
could
start
using
terms
like
residence,
that
would
be
a
lot
more
inclusive
and
realistic
of
who's.
Actually,
speaking
at
these
meetings,
I'd
like
to
speak
on
the
lack
of
action
from
the
council,
as
well
as
the
des
moines
police
department.
W
Regarding
the
marijuana
task
force
suggestions.
I
know
that
the
big
pushback
from
the
police
department
is
well
state
law,
says
something
else,
so
we're
not
going
to
be
in
conflict.
That
really
is
inaccurate.
There
are
many
municipalities
across
this
country
who
have
decriminalized
cannabis
locally,
while
their
states
have
not
one,
for
example,
is
madison
wisconsin,
where
they
allow
people
who
are
18
years
or
older
to
possess
up
to
28
grams
of
cannabis,
which
is
just
under
an
ounce
as
long
as
they
have
permission
of
a
property
owner,
landlord
or
tenant.
W
If
they're
on,
like
public
or
private
property,
and
if
they
do
have
anything
above
28
grams,
it's
just
a
dollar
fine,
so
there
are
already
cities
doing
this.
I
don't
know
why.
Actually,
I
do
know
why
the
des
moines
police
department
is
pushing
back
because
that's
the
way
that
they
target
black
people,
especially
in
the
city
of
des
moines,
and
although
they're
saying
that
this
is
against
some
legal
whatever.
We
need
to
be
strong
and
stand
in
our
morals
and
stand
in
what
we
know
is
right
if
we're
still
supporting
a
prohibition.
Y
G
Oh
hello,
I
use
she
her
pronouns.
I
would
like
to
read
reiterate
everything
that
has
been
said
previously.
I
mostly
am
here
today
to
say
that
we
need
to
seriously
rethink
and
relook
at
the
police
department
and
their
budget.
G
My
special
needs
brother
recently
spent
over
a
month
in
the
polk
county
jail
where,
unfortunately,
now
after
being
out,
he
not
only
has
to
continue
to
deal
with
his
mental
illnesses
and
being
some
of
intellectual
disabilities,
but
he
also
has
to
deal
with
being
a
survivor
of
sexual
assault,
and
so
I
would
like
to
just
reiterate
again
that
the
des
moines
police
department
does
not
need
any
mental
health
calls
on
their
plate.
G
Z
Hello,
my
name
is
denver,
are
use
she
her
pronouns,
and
I
wanted
to
uplift
everything
that
caitlin
just
shared.
I
totally
respect
her
sharing
that
story
and
I
definitely
relate
we
do
need
to
reallocate
funds
from
the
des
moines
police
department
into
more
mental
health
services
for
our
communities.
Z
You
city
council,
say
that
people
don't
understand
how
things
work
with
council
that
we
should
just
join
committees
or
contact
the
city
manager.
But
are
you
not
our
elected
officials?
What
do
you
do
you
uplift
and
protect
racist
police
officers,
while
community
members
have
to
come
together
and
protect
the
house's
community
from
freezing?
You
continually
break
open
meeting
laws
to
suit
yourself.
Z
You
believe
your
personal
problems,
issues
money
are
more
important
than
children
being
tear
gassed
more
important
than
hundreds
of
neighbors
waiting
on
housing
assistance,
more
important
than
food
for
our
communities,
more
important
than
a
goddamn
pipe
bomb
in
a
local
ankeny
polling
place,
people
seriously
could
have
died.
People
are
crying
out
for
help,
people
are
crying
out
for
justice
and
you
are
soaked
in
injustice,
injustice
for
our
communities,
injustice
for
black
brown,
indigenous
asian
trans
communities,
unjustice
for
everyone
who
fights
for
equality.
Z
N
Okay,
it
is
five
o'clock.
We
need
to
move
to
the
hearings
at
this
time
and
our
first
hearing
item
is
item
55.
N
This
is
to
correct
the
vacation
of
a
portion
of
ashworth
park
located
north
of
and
adjoining
514
foster
drive.
A
is
the
first
consideration
of
the
ordinance
above
b
is
the
final
consideration.
The
ordinance
above
the
waiver
is
requested
by
phil
wagoman.
Our
real
estate
division
manager
requires
six
boats
as
we
move
into
these
public
items.
I
just
quickly
want
everybody
know
that
we
have
one
zoning
item
tonight.
That's
item
59.
We
also
have
several
vacation
hearings
and
some
budget
hearings
and
other
hearing
items
is
a
reminder
for
the
zoning
item.
N
Only
that's
just
that
item
59.
We
will
hear
from
the
parties
in
interest
first
and
then
the
general
public.
The
parties
in
interest
include
only
the
applicant
on
item
59
for
the
rezoning
and
those
persons
living
within
the
250
feet
of
the
property
to
be
re-zoned,
to
whom
the
city
has
sent
the
notices.
After
all,
those
parties
in
interest
have
commented
on
that
item
59.
We
will
open
it
up
to
any
member
of
the
public
for
germain
comments
to
aid
the
city
clerk
and
calling
on
the
parties
in
interest.
N
N
59
or
you
will
be
not
called
on
to
the
remainder
of
the
meeting
because
of
the
more
significant
response
that
the
plan
and
zoning
meeting
for
that
item.
59
public
comments
for
non-parties
and
interest
at
one
minute
per
person
can
proceed
until
we
determined
those
comments
have
become
repetitive
or
disruptive
or
will
go
up
to.
30
minutes
has
passed,
whichever
happens
sooner,
for
the
items
61
and
62.
Those
persons
who
have
pre-registered
an
objection
will
be
called
on
first
for
their
comments
as
to
the
nature
of
their
objection.
N
After
all,
those
who
have
pre-registered
have
been
called
on
the
general
public
comment
back
to
exceed
again.
One
minute
per
person
to
a
maximum
of
ten
minutes
will
be
called
off
on
four
germain
comments.
Again,
those
are
items
sixty
61
and
62..
N
N
So
for
the
remainder
of
the
hearings.
This
evening,
any
person
can
make
germaine
comments
not
to
exceed
that
one
minute
per
person
to
a
maximum
of
five
minutes
per
hearing.
As
a
reminder,
all
construction
hearings
only
come
in
sense
of
the
plans.
The
specifications,
the
form
of
the
documents
in
the
engineer's
estimate
and
low,
better
designation,
are
considered
germaine.
N
Any
other
comments
considered
non-germane
for
the
vacation
hearings.
Only
comments
related
to
the
proposal
particular
for
that
particular
property
are
going
to
be
considered
germane.
N
So
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started
again.
Item
55
on
that
vacation
of
a
portion
of
ashworth
park
located
north
of
an
adjoining
514
foster,
drive
council.
Any
comments
on
this
one.
J
N
Let's
go
ahead,
we'll
open
it
up,
see
if
there's
anybody
in
the
public
on
this
item
would
like
to
make
a
comment.
N
N
AA
D
N
Okay
item
56
is
to
correct
the
vacation
of
a
portion
of
court
avenue
right
away
located
south
of
and
adjoining
court
avenue.
A
is
the
first
consideration
of
this
ordinance
above
and
b
is
the
final
consideration.
The
ordinance
above
the
waiver
is
requested
again
by
paul
wegman,
our
real
estate
division
manager.
It
requires
six
votes.
N
AA
C
AA
C
AA
D
C
H
N
Item
57
is
on
request
from
mundo,
ocuento
llc,
to
vacate
a
segment
of
southwest
first
street
right
of
way
between
columbus
avenue
and
indiana
road
to
convey
to
mundo
prevento
llc
for
4
320
a
is
the
first
consideration
of
the
ordinance
above
again
item
57.
Any
comments.
N
Counsel
hearing
none,
let's
see
if
there's
any
comments
from
the
the
public
item,
57.
AA
AA
D
N
Item
58
is
on
the
city
initiated
request
for
a
vacation
of
a
segment
of
east
38th
street
right
of
way
between
hubble
avenue
and
east
douglas
avenue
in
the
conveyance
to
get
and
go
convenience
stores
inc
for
69
440.
council
communication
number
21-102
a
is
the
first
consideration
of
the
ordinance
above.
M
N
All
right
item
59:
this
is
our
item
on
a
request
from
wesley
retirement
services,
inc
for
approval
of
an
amendment
to
the
wesley
acres,
pud
conceptual
plan
on
property
located
at
3520
grand
avenue
and
401
37th
street,
and
this
item
was
continued
from
february
22nd
again
I'll.
Ask
that
that
there's
any
parties
in
interest
either
the
applicant
or
those
within
200
feet.
I
guess
we'll
ask
the
applicant
first
if
they.
C
AB
AC
Hello,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can
okay,
great
thank
you,
mayor
county
council
members
for
the
opportunity
to
share
our
story
and
rationale
for
our
request
for
the
amendment
to
our
current
pud
at
3520
grand
avenue
in
des
moines,
which
is
known
as
wesley
acres.
My
name's
rob
kretzinger,
I'm
the
ceo
wesley,
like
the
owner
and
operator
wesley
acres.
I've
been
part
of
wesley
for
25
years,
served
as
a
ceo
for
the
last
18
years.
AC
Just
to
note,
all
of
our
work
is
organized
through
our
non-profit
designations.
In
total,
we
impact
approximately
9
000
people
annually,
with
the
majority
of
those
folks
located
in
the
greater
des
moines
area,
we're
governed
by
a
volunteer
board
of
directors.
All
of
them
live
in
the
des
moines
area,
with
the
exception
of
one
and
our.
AC
AC
It's
where
our
organization
began
and
started
in
july,
7th
in
1947,
when
the
first
people
took
a
residence
at
wesley
acres
became
a
reality,
while
we've
grown
across
the
state
over
the
last
74
years,
the
city
of
des
moines
has
been
our
place
of
origin
and
in
many
respects,
wesley
acres
is
our
mothership.
It
means
much
to
us
both
from
a
historic
perspective,
but
also
from
an
impact
perspective.
We
have
a
love
and
commitment
to
this
location
to
the
city.
AC
Our
amendment
represents
a
20
million
dollar
investment
in
des
moines
and
our
campus,
and
without
adding
any
additional
revenue
producing
space
important
to
remember
that,
because
I
think
you
may
hear
that
we're
doing
this
from
a
motivation
of
profit,
our
driver
is
to
help
wesley
acres
remain
relevant
to
the
people
they
serve,
and
it's
also
worth
noting,
because
this
has
come
up
as
well-
that
we
do
in
fact
pay
property
taxes.
We
have
for
nearly
three
decades.
AC
It's
approximately
three
hundred
thousand
dollars
annually.
I
think
that
too
has
been
brought
into
focus.
I
also
want
to
stress
that
we
employ
225
plus
team
members
with
the
vast
majority
of
those
living
in
the
city
of
des
moines
and
have
been
with
us
for
decades.
The
pud
amendment
is
because
we
want
to
build
on
the
past,
which
has
been
successful
but
also
reinvent
for
the
future,
and
this
has
not
been
a
significant
red
there.
AC
AC
Our
mission
reaches
out
to
them
through
our
well
ahead
membership
that
has
existed
for
many
years
where
health
and
wellness
services
are
made
available.
In
addition,
one
of
our
most
important
strategic
themes
at
wesley
life
is
to
eliminate
ageism
to
do
that.
Well,
we
must
work
to
create
a
setting
that
brings
generations
together
around
common
purposes.
AC
Segregation
of
generations
is
sad
and
something
we
want
to
change.
Elements
of
both
our
design
and
program
will
do
that
more
intentionally.
We've
said:
we've
submitted
a
lot
of
materials
and
advances.
Hearing
have
had
many
meetings
with
stakeholders,
including
representatives
of
the
greenwood
historic
neighborhood
association
board.
We
feel
we've
collaborated
on
every
issue
and
have
similar
goals.
We
haven't
come
to
an
agreement,
though,
with
everyone
darren
schlapko,
our
vp
of
development
and
construction
will
go
through
the
design
and
site
plan,
provide
details.
Council
want
to
see
and
understand
and
make
the
most
informed
decision.
AC
Just
a
quick
highlight
of
the
efforts.
Wesley
acres
has
made
we've
agreement
that
we
will
not
develop
the
south
of
our
property
into
the
woods.
Something
we've
never
planned
to
do
something
that's
been
in
memory
or
has
been
talked
about,
but
we've
memorialized
that
through
this
process
agreement
not
to
add
any
additional
parking
in
our
parking
lot
adjacent
to
the
bolton
concern
was
divorced,
that
it
may
lead
to
an
entrance
or
exit
off
to
37th
street
and
great
concern
around
that.
AC
Was
important
to
us
so
we've
addressed
that
as
well,
and
we
have
issues
with
the
the
height
of
the
building
on
the
west
side
has
been
lowered
to
its
lowest
point
of
32
feet,
which
equates
to
28
feet
due
to
elevation
differences.
So
I
think
I'm
at
time
I
will
have
darren
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
on
the
design
work.
AB
Am
I
unmuted
great?
Thank
you
honorable
mayor
members
of
council.
I
just
would
like
to
start
by
addressing
one
quick
thing
before
I
get
into
the
details,
but
today
or
actually
on
march,
4th
jhenae
issued
a
letter
that
supports
everything
in
our
pud
amendment,
except
for
any
of
the
new
amenities
on
the
west
side
of
our
campus.
AB
It's
worth
noting
that
what
we're
proposing
on
the
west
side
of
our
building
is
a
vital
piece
needed
to
continue
to
serve
our
current
residents,
future
residents
etc,
as
rob
just
very
clearly
identified
and
and
explained,
our
master
planning
process
for
this
campus
has
always
been
deeply
rooted
in
our
mission
and
our
heritage.
But
this
specific
process
took
a
very
hard
long
look
at
how
we
would
serve
the
community
outside
of
our
walls
as
well,
which
includes
the
greenwood
historic
neighborhood
association.
AB
In
that
letter,
nick
larson,
their
president
talks
about
protecting
the
residents
protecting
the
value
of
the
resident's
homes
and
preserving
the
historical
integrity
of
the
neighborhood,
and
I
think
it's
abundantly
clear
that
this
project
is
of
no
harm
to
any
of
the
residents
or
their
families.
Based
on
on
how
it's
been
designed
and
how
we've
operated
over
the
years,
I
would
also
argue
that
nothing
associated
with
this
project
will
disrupt
the
value
of
any
of
the
neighboring
homes.
AB
The
design
of
all
the
new
features
inside
and
out
fall
in
line
with
the
design
intent
of
the
chamberlain
house
as
well,
so
that
it
fits
in
nicely
and
cleanly
with
the
neighborhood
and
it'll
like
it'll,
enhance
the
historical
nature
of
the
neighborhood
by
featuring
this
style
throughout
the
campus.
That
was
all
of
our
intentions
as
we
got
into
this
process.
AB
With
that
said,
you
know,
we've
worked
hard
to
find
solutions,
as
rob
has
said,
okay
on
slide
number
13,
if
you
don't
mind
scrolling
through
a
few
of
those,
if
you're
able-
I
don't
know
if
you
are
or
not,
we
identified
all
the
different
items
that
we
were
that
were
brought
to
us
by
the
neighborhood
association
that
we've
addressed.
AB
AB
We
have
been
in
constant
communication
with
them
as
early
as
august,
but
more
thoroughly
from
early
november,
all
the
way,
through
last
friday,
trying
to
find
common
ground
on
a
number
of
issues
which
we
did:
storm
water,
water
quality
professionally
designed
systems
by
bishop
engineering
to
ensure
that
we're
taking
full.
AB
Advantage
of
being
able
to
satisfy
any
water
runoff
issues
there
might
be
with
the
neighbors
we've
actually
reduced
that
outflow
by
over
50
percent
construction
of
the
south
woods,
which
we
have
agreed
not
to
do
with
the
neighborhood
association.
Additional
parking
has
been
removed,
as
rob
said.
I
think
the
biggest
item
that
has
still
remains
is
the
height
of
the
aquatics
building
the
landscape
buffer
with
the
two
adjacent
neighbors
scott
carlson
kevin
mcphee.
AB
What
we
have
done,
since
our
original
design
is,
we
have
taken
a
35
foot
building
which
might
be
referred
to
as
40
feet
by
some,
but
it
has
never
been
to
that
height
35
feet
is
our
initial
design.
We
have
reduced
that
to
32
feet
full
elevation
with
the
change
in
elevation
from
the
residential
neighbors
to
our
site.
AB
There
is
a
approximately
a
four
foot
reduction
generally
from
mr
mcphee's
property
to
our
property.
It's
actually
greater
from
mr
carlson's
property.
There's
about
an
eight
foot
tall,
concrete
fence,
then
there's
obviously
a
privacy
fence
there
too,
but
the
actual
height
from
from
the
neighbor's
perspective
reduces
it
by
about
four
feet
to
28
feet.
Instead
of
32.,
we
have
gone
through
and
designed
this
edition
with
a
2
reflective
glass
to
be
conscious
of
the
amount
of
sun
reflectivity
that
might
come
out
off
of
this.
AB
We
have
designed
professionally
a
landscaping
buffer
with
bishop
engineering
that
both
mr
and
mr
mcphee
have
been
a
part
of,
and
we've
done,
that
collaboratively
with
them,
showing
all
of
our
intentions
totally
transparent,
offered
to
plant
additional
trees
in
their
own
yards
to
assist
with
time
aspect
of
the
viewpoint
from
the
neighbors.
So
I
appreciate
the
time.
Thank
you.
N
AA
AD
N
Okay,
I
didn't
see
any
other
people
of
interest
with
their
hands
up,
but
let
me
ask
that
chelsea
we're
gonna,
see
if
there's,
if
everybody
put
their
hand
down
just
for
a
second
here,
are
there
any
other
parties
in
interest
that
need
to
speak
parties
in
interest?
K
AE
Good
evening
mayor
and
the
rest
of
the
city
council,
my
name
is
scott
carlson,
I'm
315
37th
street
and
I'm
opposed
to
construction
to
the
west.
First
off,
I
think
wesley's,
a
gem
for
the
neighborhood.
My
mother
was
a
long
time
resident
there.
She
was
well
taken
care
of
enjoyed
her
time.
She
passed
away
a
year
ago
may
but
don't
be
fooled.
She
paid
full
price
to
come
into
wesley
acres.
AE
It
was
a
six-figure
initiation
deposit
that
she
had
to
put
down
in
her
one
bedroom,
4
400
a
month,
independent
living
apartment
and
when
her
final
day
she
spent
8
900
a
month
for
full-on
nursing.
This
is
not
a
not-for-profit.
It's
not
a
charity.
It's
not
saint
jude
to
the
shriners
hospital.
It's
the
most
expensive
retirement
center
within
the
des
moines
city
limits.
AE
AE
Yeah
just
103.,
so
that's
why
I
did
the
page
number,
but
since
it
basically
shows
that
that
you
know
there's
no
buffer
between
me
and
the
and
west
lakers
for
quite
some
time
since
we
moved
into
our
home,
two
sets
of
buffering
has
been
removed.
At
least
13
trees
taken
down
seven
more
coming
down
to
build
their
aquatic
center,
three
pools
in
total,
a
yoga
area
and
a
workout
facility
and
150
seat
auditorium.
Let's
be
clear,
I'm
not
part
of
the
problem,
I'm
not
part
of
a
small
angry
mob.
AE
AE
Even
even
just
two
weeks
ago,
on
saturday
I
received
a
private
email
from
darren
shlockwell,
the
vice
president
of
developing
instruction
for
wesley
on
february
27th
and
stating
I
quote
of
course
period.
I
committed
to
you
that
I
would
get
this
done
with
that
being
said,
the
agreement
will
not
go
into
effect
unless
the
pud
is
approved
by
the
city
council
period.
If
the
pud
insight
plant
approvals
don't
pass,
none
of
this
landscape
will
be
put
in.
AE
It's
not
like
wesley
set
out
to
be
troublesome
or
unfriendly.
It's
just
the
nature
of
a
large
institution's
inability
to
relate
to
the
smaller
neighbors,
compassion
or
empathy
are
easily
lost
as
a
business
grows
in
science,
especially
the
size
of
wesley,
and
that
could
be
heard
loud
and
clear
from
the
email
communication
between
the
pnz.
Madam
chairperson
jan
freed
and
rob
kretzinger.
The
ceo
of
wesley
jan
freed
asked
a
simple
one-sentence
question
to
rob
and
I
quote:
rob
comma.
The
architect
said
wesley
pays
taxes.
AE
Please
clarify
most
people
think
wesley
as
are
as
a
mfp
and
does
not
pay
taxes
period.
Please
let
me
know
period
thanks
period,
rob's
response
to
the
question
with
four
paragraphs
that
included
plenty
of
color
that
had
very
little
to
do
with
her
question.
Part
of
it
reads
quote
when
I
heard
scott
carlson
asked
the
council
to
please
save
his
home
and
my
quotes.
AE
I
about
threw
up
dot
dot
dot.
I
want
to
say,
please
save
our
home.
I
think
he's
talking
about
wesley.
Now
we
are
the
second
owner
in
118
years.
This
kind
of
language
just
drives
home
the
fact
that
we
are
a
tiny
insignificant
sliver
in
their
empire
of
11
properties.
This
one
alone
is
now
valued
at
48
million
and
only
will
get
higher
when
they
add
the
new
property
and
proves
that
there
has
not
been
much
good
faith
from
wesley.
Trying
to
find
a
solution.
AE
I
would
challenge
any
of
you
to
identify
the
original
home
on
this
topographical
map,
and
today
this
kind
of
intensity
wouldn't
be
approved.
Wesley
talks
about
say,
staying
current
and
needing
to
add
to
these
neighborhood
herding
amenities
to
stay
competitive,
but
I
think
they're
forgetting
that
the
neighborhood
quite
possibly
could
be
their
biggest
amenity.
Why
would
wesley
want
to
hurt
that
wesley
said
they
draw
most
of
their
people
within
one
mile?
AE
AF
N
Is
mr
mcafee
on
again
only
those
parties
in
in
interest,
kevin
mcafee
is
a
party
in
interest
as
near
as
I
can
tell
kevin.
You
are
close
to
this.
AG
J
AH
Okay,
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
to
speak,
I'm
kevin
macphee.
I
live
at
321,
37th,
street
and
I'll
try
to
be
brief.
I
certainly
appreciate
all
the
dialogue
we've
had
with
wesley
acres
and
the
the
commentary
that
we've
heard,
but
as
the
most
directly
impacted
neighbor.
I
continue
to
be
opposed
to
this
portion
of
the
development,
and
you
know
it
bears
some
background
on
why
we
moved
here.
AH
We
moved
here
three
years
ago
and
chose
this
neighborhood
and
this
lot
because
it's
large
it
has
privacy,
and
certainly
we
knew
that
we
were
next
to
a
neighbor
that
is
a
retirement
home,
but
certainly
did
not
anticipate
the
size
and
scale
of
this
build.
So
two,
two
primary
reasons
why
we're
opposed
to
this
and
the
first
is
the
tangible.
AH
What
is
being
proposed
is
not
only
high
whether
it's
32
or
if
you
take
in
the
reduction
of
28
feet,
it's
big,
it's
about
the
size
of
a
full
house
and
it's
in
between
my
house
and
their
current
build,
which
is
currently
green
space.
There's
a
tree
there's
some
sky,
that
you'll
see,
and
so
it's
not
only
the
height
but
the
depth,
and
so
on
page
23
of
the
packet.
It
really
shows
the
total
impact.
AH
AH
AH
You
know
some
of
the
discussion
throughout
not
tonight
is
that
neighbors
are
flip-flopping
or
not
being
clear
and
it's
really
quite
the
opposite.
We
have
agonized
over
the
possible
compromise
because
we
do
value
wesley
acres
as
a
neighborhood
feature
and
it's
important,
but
we
do
not
want
to
be
the
holdup,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
we're
being
forced
to
see
whether
or
not
we'll
live
with
this,
and
the
compromise,
basically
is:
are
you
okay
with
this
building,
or
are
you
okay
with
this
building?
AH
I
do
acknowledge
that
the
landscaping
plan
is
a
good
faith
effort
and
I
really
wanted
to
believe
that
that
would
create
a
sufficient
buffer,
but
I
don't
think
it
will
be
sufficient,
as
has
already
been
mentioned,
there's
already
a
large
footprint
that
wesley
acres
has,
and
I
have
to
believe,
there's
another
way
to
get
these
amenities
on
their
property.
It
might
not
be
as
convenient
or
something
that
can
be
done
on
their
timing,
but
I
don't
see
why
I
have
to
be
the
one
that
sacrifices.
AH
AH
AH
C
N
AI
Okay,
all
right
copy
that
good
evening
honorable
mount
mayor
and
des
moines
city
council
do
do.
I
have
the
the
five
minutes
time.
Sir.
J
AI
Oh
okay,
thank
you
very
much.
Well,
I'm
just
gonna
go
ahead
and
just
open
up.
You
know
I
heard
rob
and
darren
speak
and
you
know
we
disagree
with
their
assessment
and
what
the
true
impact
will
be
for
our
neighbors
in
greenwood.
Historic,
remember
that
if
this
is
approved,
this
building
will
be
permanent
fixture
to
our
neighborhood
and
as
far
as
the
communications
between
us
and
wesley,
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
disagree
with
their
assessment
on
how
that
has
gone
as
well.
AI
But
you
know
the
association
right.
We
welcome
development
plans
on
the
north
and
east
side
of
their
campus,
but
we've
got
to
be
flatly
opposed
to
any
development.
On
the
west
side.
Expansion
to
the
west
is
going
to
degrade
home
values
and
ruin
historic
nature
of
our
neighborhood
gh
a
you
know.
We
appeal
to
you
the
city,
to
consider
the
integrity
of
neighborhoods
and
the
needs
you
know
to
hold
us
above
the
needs
of
large
corporations.
AI
Our
association's
primary
mission
is
to
protect
the
safety
of
its
residents,
values
of
homes
for
its
residents
and
preserve
our
historical
integrity.
Additional
building,
brick
and
mortar
behind
37th
is
going
to
threaten
those
those
core
values.
AI
So
we
recognize
that
wesley's
customers
are
foreign
former
gh,
a
residents
who
chose
to
stay
in
the
neighborhood
because
of
the
current
gh
members
of
wesley's
future
customers.
Our
stance,
which
is
to
preserve
the
integrity
of
the
neighborhood,
is
not
done
out
of
desire
to
say
no
to
every
post
project;
on
the
contrary,
we're
taking
steps
to
ensure
preservation
of
our
neighborhood
for
current
and
future
residents.
AI
You
know
one
of
the
founding
reasons
for
the
gh
a
was
to
prevent
these
large
institutions
that
border
our
neighborhood
from
encroaching
on
our
residential
area,
potentially
degrading
the
safety
of
our
residents
and
failing
to
maintain
detention
ponds,
and
you
know
degrading
property
values
and
historical
integrity
of
our
neighborhood.
AI
You
know
it's
kind
of
likewise
the
way
you
know
part
of
the
reason
the
pnz
exists
was
to
protect
des
moines
residents.
You
know
some
pnz
members
heard
our
concerns
during
the
january
20
meeting
specifically
commented.
You
know
scope
creep,
is
real
on
our
neighborhood
and
voted
to
deny
wesley
yeager's
request
before
you
today,
although
that
vote
in
wesley's
favor,
it
was
far
from
unanimous
as
it
went
841
in
wesley's
favor,
with
the
madame
chair
of
staining,
as
she
is
a
greenwood
historic
neighborhood
resident.
AI
You
know,
as
you
know,
des
moines
university
completely
destroyed
lincoln
court,
which
used
to
be
a
residential
street
in
our
neighborhood
to
build
what
is
now
ryan
hall.
You
know,
and
you
know,
reading
minutes
from
a
november
30th
2001
meeting.
You
know
the
most
robust
discussion
centered
on
wesleyan's
continuous
expansion
into
our
neighborhood,
and
you
know
the
need
for
us
to
prevent
further
encroach
encroachment
or
at
least
ensure
that
they
follow
through
on
promises
they
made
to
keep
on
the
1992
pud
change.
AI
So,
although
you
may
feel
this
project
is
small
and
has
minimal
impact,
please
consider
the
strategic
vision.
What
the
big
picture
has
been
over
the
years,
we
can
only
hypothesize,
you
know
as
to
why
dmu
was
buying
homes
on
31st
street
and
that's
why
wesley
acres
must
have
this
one
addition.
You
know
to
the
west
of
its
campus
to
stay
competitive.
AI
You
know,
in
addition
to
the
coaches,
you
know
on
our
neighborhood,
you
know
and
the
attempt
to
get
additional
parking
to
the
west.
That
would
all
be
create
another
entrance
exit
to
37th
street
and
I
understand
that's
off
the
table.
So
thank
you
very
much
des
moines
city
staff.
AI
You
know,
historically,
one
thing:
that's
been
documented
over
the
years
of
the
negative
impacts
in
our
neighborhood,
resulting
from
the
expansion
of
the
large
institutions
on
our
north
side.
You
know
we
just
wesley's
current
proposed
project
to
the
west,
but
negative
impacts
to
the
neighborhood
due
to
the
design
and
its
height
and
depth.
They
are
going
from
one
pool
to
four
pools
and
increasing
an
assembly
area
from
50
to
150
seats,
and
this
is
all
coming
with
the
intent
to
add
more
housing
and
an
already
overly
intense
use
of
land.
AI
So
I
ask
how
much
further
into
our
neighborhood
will
these
institutions
creep
how
many
more
homes
will
have
to
be
adversely
you
know
affected
or
destroyed?
How
many
more
times
do
we
need
to
resist
encroachment
by
a
powerful
entity?
I
ask
you
des
moines
city
council,
an
honorable
mayor.
When
is
enough
going
to
be
just
that
enough?
Thank
you.
C
Interest,
your
honor,
the
names
that
show
are
not
names
that
I
have
on
my
list,
so
I
can't
definitely
answer
that.
If
any
of
the
other
names
are,
they
do
not
show
on
my
list.
M
And
I
know
gloria
gray
lives
at
wesley
all.
AJ
Yes,
thank
you
mayor
county
and
council
members.
My
name
is
gloria
gray
and
I
do
not
live
at
wesley.
I
live
in
a
condo
at
3667
grand
avenue
which
is
just
right
down
the
street.
From
wesley,
I'm
a
retired
person
I
had
been
driving
to
west
des
moines
for
a
for
an
exercise
class.
Until
a
neighbor
told
me
about
the
wesley
program,
I
made
an
appointment.
AJ
There
is
a
need
for
wesley
to
upgrade
their
landlocked
grand
avenue
facilities
to
enhance
the
care
and
support
of
residents
now
and
well
into
the
future.
Wesley
serves
about
300
residents
at
any
one
time
right
now,
and
he
helps
not
only
their
residents
but
older
community
members
who
want
to
be
active
and
healthy.
AJ
AJ
The
proposed
wellness
space
will
allow
more
seniors
to
take
advantage
of
this
wonderful
resource.
Logic
tells
us
that
the
needs
of
the
many
outweigh
the
needs
of
the
few.
I
have
seen
the
neighborhood
concerns
in
the
february
pud
and
also
read
many
comments
from
other
neighbors
who
are
solidly
in
favor
of
the
enhancements.
As
I
am
wesley's
march
1
response
to
city
council
members
shows
that
wesley
has
addressed
neighbor
concerns,
while
still
true
to
the
plans
to
make
much
needed
enhancements
to
benefit
residents
and
community
members
for
74
years.
AJ
N
All
right,
let's
go
ahead
and
open
this
up,
we're
just
going
to
take
these
as
general
public
comments,
let's
start
with
the
christine,
if
you'll
give
it,
and
these
these
comments
will
be
one
minute.
N
So
keep
your
your
your
time
and
keep
your
be
very
succinct
in
your
comments.
So
christine
appreciate
your
input.
AK
Okay,
thank
you.
I
am
a
neighbor
who
actually
lives
several
blocks
to
the
south.
I
cannot
see
wesley
acres
from
my
house,
but
I
do
fear
that
any
further
encroachment
will
be
detrimental
to
our
neighborhood
37th
street
is
the
iconic
and
historic
entrance
to
our
neighborhood
and,
as
others
have
spoken,
this
pool
complex
will
be
visible
between
two
beautifully
maintained,
historic
homes
that
were
each
built
in
1910.
AK
There
are
other
historic
homes
on
that
street
and
throughout
the
neighborhood,
however,
the
neighborhood
is
not
just
you
know:
big
fancy
houses,
there's
quite
a
variety
of
housing
here
I
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everybody
understands
how
valuable
a
unique
neighborhood
like
this
is
to
the
city
we've
seen
too
many
of
our
neighborhoods
decay,
and
I
I
wanted
to
see
this
one
live
on
as
nice
as
it
is
now,
there's
a
reason
why
people
want
to
buy
houses
here,
there's
trees,
there's
rolling
hills,
it's
unique.
AA
N
AL
Sorry
yeah,
this
is
lon
stinger.
I
just
want
to
talk
about
how
these
projects
come
about
within
the
neighborhood,
with
the
institutions
to
our
north.
Looking
at
design
university
in
wesley,
it
seems
like
there's
a
lot
of
planning
that
goes
on
by
the
institutions.
They
spend
a
lot
of
money
with
their
design
to
kind
of
get
their
heart
set
on
doing
something,
and
they
have
meetings
with.
AL
You
know
people
from
city
planning,
city,
council
whomever
and
then,
when
all
that's
done,
it
gets
presented
to
the
neighborhood
and
the
neighborhood
sort
of
left
on
its
own
to
kind
of
defend
itself.
Against
you
know,
city
planning,
pnz
city,
council,
the
institution
when
I
think
it'd
be
much
better,
just
a
future
procedure.
AL
If
we
could
get
engaged
sooner
and
maybe
have
some
of
these
things
out
before
a
design
is
drawn
up,
because
in
the
end
we
always
get
painted
as
the
obstructionists
and
as
being
sort
of
you
know,
against
the
institutions
which
are
really
not.
We
just
want
to
be
fairly
engaged
in
the
process
from
the
beginning
or
early
on,
and
it
just
has
not
been
that
case
time
after
time
and
I
think
that's
contributed
to
time.
N
AM
Hi
this
is
mark
quiner.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can.
My
name
is
mark
quiner.
I
live
at
119
34th
street
I'd
like
to
stay
for
the
relationship
that
I
for
the
record.
I
have
no
financial
relationship
with
wesley
acres
or
no
financial
interest
in
the
matter
before
you,
I'm
speaking
as
a
member
of
the
greenwood
historic
neighborhood
association.
AM
My
principal
concern
is
the
damage
that
development
on
the
west
side
of
westlakers
campus
will
do
to
property
values
and
the
historic
nature
of
our
neighborhood.
We
have
other
neighbors
here
tonight.
Speaking
to
other
facets
of
this,
I
would
like
to
speak
to
a
financial
conflict
of
interest
between
png
commissioner
greg
wadier
wesley
acres
and
its
ceo
rob
kretzinger
early
in
this
process.
The
neighborhood
requested
that
mr
wadi,
an
architect
with
slingshot
architecture,
come
and
look
at
wesley's
project
with
the
neighbors.
AM
The
idea
was
that
a
pnc
member
that
is
also
an
architect
would
be
well
qualified
to
discuss
the
tension
between
commercial
development
and
historic
preservation.
The
answer
from
wadi
a
no
on
advice
of
the
city
legal
department.
Through
a
foia
request,
I
found
19
pages
of
emails,
leading
up
to
the
png
hearing
on
this
matter
between
wadia
and
wesley
ceo
rob
kretsinger
time
later
later,
I
discovered.
AN
AN
AN
K
V
This
is
vanessa,
not
chelsea.
Can
you
hear
me.
K
V
Oh,
why
are
we
skipping
over
chelsea?
She
got
interrupted
by
josh,
very
rudely,
and
we
never.
A
V
Retirement
services
was
allowed
to
speak
for
several
seconds
after
kay
called
time,
which
is
really
weird,
because
she's
like
on
that
mute
button
when
the
rest
of
us
are
speaking.
So
it.
A
A
N
Hello
vanessa:
do
you
have
any
comment
to
make
regarding
this.
V
Oh
yeah,
yes,
I
do
thank
you
for
calling
attention
to
that.
I
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
josh
mandelbaum
like
interrupted
chelsea
on
national
women's
day
or
international
women's
day,
and
then
we
never
went
back.
AP
W
Chisholm
vargas,
my
pronouns,
are
she
her
aya,
I
appreciate
being
able
to
speak
after
I
was
already
interrupted
on
international
women's
day.
I
would
like
to
say
about
all
of
this:
it's
just
baffling
to
see
all
these
rich
people
fighting
over
this
issue.
Yeah.
I
really
don't
want
this
wesley
place
to
expand
for
a
lot
of
reasons,
none
of
which
are
in
support
of
any
of
the
reasons
that
those
other
rich
people
felt
but
yeah.
W
I
also
did
want
to
add
that
I
believe
their
name
was
rob
when
you
were
speaking
and
then
you
were
told
time
just
continued
to
speak
and
was
not
muted.
It's
very
obvious
that
the
council
operates
on
a
bias
and
allows
business
owners
wealthy
elites
to
speak
after
the
time
frame,
while
the
rest
of
us
get
cut
off
mid-sentence.
W
Member
josh
mandelbaum
can
interrupt
anyone
when
they're
speaking,
which
is
totally
rude,
especially
when
you're
trying
to
kick
off
your.
A
AQ
Yes,
hi
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
kind
of
echo
what
chelsea
was
saying.
Basically,
I
I'm
not
really.
I
don't
really
care
honestly
how
this
goes
because
you
know
either
way
you
guys
are
just
gonna
be
like
voting
for
rich
people.
It's
either,
like
you
know
the
development
whatever
gets
to
expand
and
take
all
these
people's
houses
out,
which
you
guys
would
love,
because
you
know
the
corporations
get
whatever
they
want,
or
you
know
the
rich
people
who
live
in
the
neighborhood
you're
supporting
them,
and
you
know.
AQ
The
other
way
when
it's
like
expanding
development
into
poorer
neighborhoods,
we
already
know
how
you
guys
are
going
to
vote.
So
it's.
N
AQ
I'm
pretty
sure
this
is
germaine,
I'm
saying
I'm
talking
about
the
thing
that's
happening.
Am
I
not.
AQ
G
S
A
lot
of
thoughts
I'll
start
off
with,
if
it's
this
contentious
of
an
issue
as
it
obviously
has
been
since
the
pack
is
over
100
pages
long
since
there's
been
back
and
forth,
and
since
the
original
delay
was
moved
from
last
meeting
to
this
meeting,
it
really
just
seems
like
council
should
be
a
good,
a
good
time
for
council
to
just
like
kind
of
take
it
off
the
agenda
and
work
on
it
until
it
gets
to
a
place.
That's
acceptable.
This
should
just
be
rejected
outright.
S
I
also
want
to
point
out
that
it's
unfortunate
that
appears
that
city
council
is
working
directly
with
the
ceo
and
the
corporation
instead
of
the
people,
we
haven't
really
heard
from
the
people
who
live
in
this
retirement
home
or
the
employees,
especially
during
cove,
but
I
would
like
to
hear
from
hear
from
those
people
or
at
least
make
sure
they're
being
considered
which
doesn't
seem
like
they
are.
I
also
just
want
to
point
out.
I
don't
think
throughout
any
of
this
we've
any
of
these
meetings.
S
AF
AS
This
is
brad
weisenmaier.
I
use
he
him
pronouns.
I
live
in
the
east
village,
happy
at
international
women's
day
to
all
women
and
femme
people.
Listening
today,
josh
mandelbaum.
You
owe
chelsea
apology,
frank
connie.
You.
N
Yeah,
you
have
some
comments
to
make
dramatics
yeah,
so
I.
AS
Really
appreciated
a
lot
of
the
perspective
that
payton
was
offering.
That
just
happened
to
not
maybe
agree
with
your
perspective,
and
then
you
accused
her
of
arguing
on
international
women's
day.
That's
pretty
disgusting
would.
N
You
please
stick
to
the
germain
comments
of
the
issue.
AS
Yes,
you
are
a
misogynist
piece
of
frank.
K
Okay,
jalen.
L
AT
AT
Awesome,
I
am
going
to
attempt
to
speak
slowly,
just
so
that
you
mayor,
frank
county
can
hopefully
find
me
to
be
articulate.
AT
That
is
a
goal
of
mine,
so
please
I
hope
that
you
think
I'm
articulate
after
I
give
this
statement,
but
just
wanted
to
speak
on
this
particular
agenda
item,
and
you
know
this
has
really
been
a
very
long,
long
discussion
that
we've
had
on
this
agenda
item
and,
like
folks,
have
pointed
out
in
the
past.
It
is
rich
people
fighting
against
other
rich
people
right,
and
this
is
really
seem
to
be
the
highest
priority
that
we've
seen
council
really
take
up
and
and
spend
a
lot
of
time
on.
So
I'm
just
curious.
AT
Why
is
that?
I
understand
that
this
is
a
controversial
topic,
but
once
again
we're
seeing
council
prioritize
rich,
wealthy
white
property
owners,
rather
than
actually
addressing
the
real
problems
that
we
have
in
this
city
or
really
doing
anything
to
help
folks
out.
So
I
don't
think
that
this
would
be
expanded.
I
think
that
everyone
who
lives
in
this
neighborhood
and.
N
AU
Okay,
I
am
speaking
I'm
speaking
kind
of
neutrally
on
this
item,
but
basically
in
opposition,
because
I
think,
what's
really
important
is
that
you
listen
to
the
residents
that
are
in
the
area,
but
I
also
do
want
to
acknowledge
the
fact
that
the
way
that
we
talk
about
these
things,
we
consider
parties
of
interest
in
250
feet.
We
consider
the
neighborhood
association,
but
we
don't
consider
the
fact
that
these
things
affect
the
rest
of
the
entire
city.
AU
The
neighborhood,
like
the
property
values
in
this
neighborhood,
do
affect
the
rest
of
the
entire
city,
and
so
limiting
the
time
that
we
have
to
speak
on
these
issues
from
different
parts
of
the
city
isn't
really
addressing
the
problem,
but
I
do
want
to
like
acknowledge
the
fact
that
people
in
the
neighborhood
who
live
in
this
area
are
clearly
in
opposition
to
this
plan
and
y'all
could
reach
a
consensus.
It's
clear.
They
want
to
work
together,
so
y'all
could
be
reaching
a
consensus
on
what
happens
in
this
neighborhood.
AU
Z
Denver
hello,
denver
foot
she
her
pronouns.
I
just
wanted
to
uplift
everything
that
everyone
has
said
happy
international
women's
day
and
I
think,
like
we've,
been
talking
about
this
for
so
many
times
it
basically
either
helps
rich
homeowners
or
it
helps
a
large
corporation
that
has
horrible
reviews.
Z
You
know
people
being
not
taking
being
taken
care
of
workers
not
being
taken
care
of.
So
I
think
we
should
really
just
reject
this.
As
adam
has
said,
I
think
we
should
do
more
research
figure
out
what
best
helps
our
community
in
our
neighbors
and
how
we
can
do
that
so
yep
and
that's
all.
AV
AV
V
So
if
you
could,
please
start
the
discussion
on
paying
for
an
attorney
for
the
des
moines.
AO
Hello,
I
think
that
city
council
should
reject
this
proposal,
and
I
also
think
that
frank
county
should
not
be
following
black
women
argumentative
when
they're
making
a
valid
point.
Thank
you.
That's
all.
I
have
to
say.
AW
I'm
sorry
I'm
so
sorry.
This
is
margaret
stewart.
I
live
in
the
greenwood
historic
neighborhood
and
I
hope
that
you
will
support
wesley's
proposal.
I
think
it
is
a
fantastic
opportunity
for
your
older
constituents
in
in
this
neighborhood
and
who
reside
at
wesley.
I
wrote
you
a
letter,
I
won't
repeat
myself,
but
I'm
just
asking
please
to
support
their
proposal.
Thank
you.
N
All
right,
I
think,
we're
done
council.
Let's
move
to
our
discussion.
D
Hopefully,
and
I'll
start
I
I
will
apologize
to
to
chelsea-
I
I
was
trying
to
clarify
in
this
case
to
to
follow
the
rules
and
dab
the
parties
in
interest,
and
I
didn't
want
to
see
you
get
disqualified
chelsea,
but
I
I
could
have.
I
should
have
just
waited
so
I
apologize,
but
I
I
wanted
to
address
this
issue
and
first
off
start
by
saying
that
I
appreciate
all
of
the
the
feedback
on
this
project.
D
D
I
think
it
was
the
november
greenwood
historic,
neighborhood
association
meeting,
and
then
I
heard
for
the
first
time
from
wesley
shortly
after
that,
since
then,
I've
talked
with
neighbors,
including
folks
from
the
neighborhood
association,
kevin
and
scott
multiple
times,
each
I've
heard
from
multiple
people
who
live
on
the
wesley
campus
and
others
who
live
nearby
the
campus.
So
it's
been
a
broad
mix
of
folks
who
I've
heard
from
some
of
those
folks
were
on
the
meeting
tonight.
Some
have
submitted
formal
comments
into
the
record.
D
There
have
been
a
lot
of
folks
on
all
sides
of
this
issue
and
it's
important
to
note
that
that
this
conversation
involves
many
different
neighbors
and
residents.
I
think
some
of
the
the
speakers
talked
about
that.
I
you
know
there
are
over
300
people
who
live
on
the
wesley
campus
itself.
D
D
D
The
other
piece
of
this
is
I've
seen
over
time,
as
there
have
been
conversations
with
the
neighborhood
I've
seen
the
project
and
what
what
is
in
front
of
us.
I've
seen
wesley
make
changes
in
an
attempt
to
respond
to
neighbor
concerns,
and
there
have
been
several
changes
that
have
still
been
made
since,
since
this
was
first
on
our
agenda
two
weeks
ago,.
D
What
I've
sort
of
said
to
folks
is,
I
I've
looked
at
it
and
and
rob,
and
his
comments
today
helped
me
date
it,
since
a
number
of
these
things
are
either
80s
or
90s.
If
it's
been
30
plus
years
since,
since
there
have
been
additions,
a
large
chunk
of
the
campus
has
a
90s
or
80s
institutional
look
and
adding
these
additions
with
this
architectural
style,
I
think,
provides
value
to
the
neighborhood
and
ties
back
in
from
from
a
historic
campus
perspective.
D
I
also
wanted
to
touch
on
how
I
how
I've,
I
think
the
record
reflects
that
there
have
been
several
long-standing
neighborhood
concerns
that
have
been
addressed.
D
D
D
I
do
want
to
see
one
change
and-
and
I
think
staff
in
the
materials
in
our
packet
said
that
we
could
make
this
change
and
and
I'll
get
to
it
at
the
end.
But
I
want
to
add
a
requirement
to
annually
maintain
the
southern
detention
basin
and
conduct
annual
inspections
as
a
part
of
the
pud
requirement.
D
D
Another
piece
to
this
process
that
I
think
is
a
positive
and
should
be
recognized
is
that
wesley
has
put
in
writing
its
previous
commitment,
not
to
develop
the
woods
at
the
southern
part
of
the
campus
and
that's
a
another
major
neighborhood
concern
and
that
that
is
relevant
to
the
question
of
concern
about
the
creep
and
where,
where
the
campus
can
go
and
wesley's
agreement,
while
I
think
they've
said
it
in
the
past,
no
one
has
been
able
to
to
track
it
down.
In
writing.
D
That
will
be
in
writing,
and
that
provides
some
assurance
that
that
the
campus
does
not
continue
south
into
the
neighborhood
further.
D
I
also
wanted
to
to
talk
about
the
the
parking
piece
and
the
connection
to
37,
and
I
know
back
when
we
were
first
talking
with
the
neighborhood
association
back
in
november.
The
proposal
included,
I
think,
even
an
egress
and
a
way
on
to
37th
from
from
the
existing
parking
lot.
It
was
that
was
paired
back
to
just
a
proposal
for
eight
additional
parking
spots.
D
I
staff
did
not
recommend
that,
and
ultimately
that
has
been
pulled
so
that
the
parking
cannot
extend
any
farther
than
the
existing
bolton
building
in
the
front
of
the
bolton
building,
which
is,
I
believe,
right
where
the
parking
is
now.
D
I
will
note
personally
that
in
the
future
I
won't
support
extending
any
paved
or
developed
portion
of
the
campus,
so
no
extension
of
the
parking
farther
west
than
the
front
edge
of
the
bolton
building.
D
So
I
don't
think
there
should
be
a
connection
to
37th
there
and
and
I'm
glad
that
that
was
pulled
back
as
part
of
this
process
and
that's
another
another
example
of
this
process,
working
like
it
should
and
listening
to
the
neighborhood
concerns
the
piece
of
this
proposal
where
there
has
not
been
agreement
with
either
the
neighbors
or
the
neighborhood
association.
D
But
that
does
have
support.
Well,
I
should
say
in
terms
of
neighbors
the
two
most
impacted
neighbors
and
I
think
we
have
to
acknowledge
that
this
does
impact
the
mcafees
and
the
carlsons
in
ways
it
doesn't
others,
because
the
mcafees
and
carlsons
live
right.
D
Next
to
this
campus
and-
and
so
this
is
a
a
new
building
and
it
will
in
some
ways
change
change
what
they
see
out
their
backyard
and
that's
that's
the
piece
that
there
hasn't
been
agreement,
although
I
will
say,
we've
heard
from-
and
I've
heard
from
folks
on
the
campus
I've
heard
from
employees
of
wesley
who
support
this
change.
I've
heard
from
people
who
don't
live
on
the
campus,
who
support
it
and
I've
heard
from
people
who
don't
support
it.
D
So
I've
heard
from
folks
on
on
both
sides
of
this,
but
what
I
did
hear
is
that,
and
what
I
do
think
is
a
theme
generally,
is
that
the
neighborhood
association
doesn't
believe
there
should
be
building
any
building
on
the
west
side
of
the
campus.
D
And-
and
I
don't
I
don't
agree
when
you're
within
the
footprint
of
the
existing
campus.
I
think
it's
reasonable
for
wesley
to
build
vertically
and
that
the
approach
that
they've
taken
with
an
attempt
to
design
into
the
historic
neighborhood
and
within
within
the
limits,
I
think,
is
a
reasonable
part
of
this
process.
D
One
of
the
things
that
we
have
seen
the
aquatic
center
building
in
its
initial
proposal
extended,
I
believe,
nine
or
ten
feet
farther
west
and
in
response
to
neighborhood
concerns
there
was
designed
to
move
a
portion.
I
think
it
was
a
wading
pool.
D
That's
interior
move
that
over
to
the
south,
so
that
wesley
could
back
up
back
up
the
building,
and
in
doing
so,
I
think
that
created
from
what
I've
seen
in
the
plans
created
an
additional
space
where
wesley
is
planning
on
planting
additional
trees
to
further
buffer
the
building
from
the
the
adjoining
neighbors.
D
The
other
thing
that
wesley
has
done
specifically
with
this
building
is
lowered,
the
height
from
35
feet
down
to
32
feet
and
their
response
to
questions
about
whether
or
not
it
could
go
lower.
They
pointed
out
that
if
it
goes
any
lower,
the
building
will
no
longer
serve
as
a
screen
for
the
rooftop
mechanicals,
and
there
is
a
requirement.
D
D
There
would
need
to
be
some
sort
of
alternative
to
screen
the
mechanicals
that
wouldn't
neces
wouldn't
match
the
aesthetic,
as
well
as
the
building
itself
does
with
the
plan.
That
wesley
has
presented
also
note
that
if
this
wasn't
a
pud,
but
if
this
area
was
zoned
residential
instead,
we
would
allow
buy
right
under
our
zoning
ordinance.
A
42-foot
home.
D
The
height
of
the
building
that
wesley
has
proposed
is
32
feet
and
many
of
the
homes
on
37th
street
are
42
feet,
maybe
even
higher,
because
they
were
built
before
that.
That
requirement
of
our
code,
so
the
height
of
the
building
and
the
design
to
blend
in
with
the
neighborhood
is
within,
and
I
think
is
what
is
consistent
with
the
feel
of
the
neighborhood.
D
The
other
piece
of
this
is
that
wesley's
agreed
to
enter
a
landscaping
agreement
or
has
worked
with
the
neighbors
to
provide
buffering
and
make
a
commitment
to
work
with
the
neighbors
on
future
landscaping,
and
I
appreciate
that
kevin
recognized
recognized
that,
as
as
a
good
faith
effort-
and
you
know,
I'm
committed
to
working
with
the
neighbors
in
wesley
to
make
sure
that
the
landscaping
is
implemented
as
designed
over
time
and
that
that
buffer
gets
planted
and
hopefully
is
an
effective
buffer
between
the
neighbors
and
wesley.
D
You
know
I
recognize
that
the
zoning
issues
like
this,
they
do
require
balancing
interests
of
different
neighbors,
neighborhood
association,
the
the
folks
who
live
on
the
wesley
campus
and
there
are
over
300.
Some
of
those
and
I'll
note.
D
You
know
I
think
someone
raised
the
question
of
property
taxes
and,
while
wesley
wesley
is
a
non-profit
the
tower
and
the
bolton
are
both
structured
as
cooperative
and
condo
units
and
the
residents
there
that
are
part
of
the
wesley
campus,
do
pay
property
taxes
and
there's
almost
300
000
in
property
taxes
between
the
tower
and
the
bolton
building.
D
So
so
this
this
is
about
lots
of
folks
in
our
community
and
it's
about
folks
beyond
just
the
the
campus.
It's
about
people
like
gloria
who
live
down
the
street
and
can
walk
to
health
and
wellness
health
and
wellness
activities,
and
it's
about
how
this
blends,
in
with
our
larger
community
and
efforts
in
the
community
and
having
having
a
strong
wesley
acres,
is
important
in
that
regard.
You
know
one
of
the
things
I
heard
from
people
as
part
of
part
of
this
process.
D
Wesley
is
an
amenity
that
serves
our
entire
city,
and
so
when
I
weigh
all
of
these
factors,
I
support
the
project
and-
and
I
would
like
to
move
item
59
and
I'd
like
to
make
one
amendment
and
that
is
to
add
the
condition
on
the
storm.
The
stormwater
and
that's
do
you
need.
I
can
read
the
whole
thing,
but
I'd
like
to
just
use
the
language
that
staff
suggested
using
in
response
to
question
five
that
was
at
the
front
of
our
of
our
packet
that
reads.
D
The
the
property
owner
shall
be
required
to
annually,
submit
a
stormwater
detention
maintenance
report
to
the
city,
stormwater
utility,
to
demonstrate
continued
functional
operation
of
the
approved
stormwater
management.
Improvements
in
the
event
that
said,
report
does
not
demonstrate
continued
functional
operation.
D
The
property
owner
shall
comply
with
city
recommendations
to
repair
or
maintain
improvements
within
a
timeline
approved
by
the
city's
public
works
director
or
be
subject
to
public
nuisance
or
similar
legal
action
by
the
city.
So
I'd
like
that
to
replace
the
I
think,
the
existing
stormwater
condition,
but
with
that
I
will
move
item
59.
M
Thank
you,
mayor
county.
I
have
a
just
a
few
questions
for
either
rob
or
darren.
If
they're
still
available
to
answer
some
questions.
AB
AB
Yeah
this
is
darren.
I
can
answer
what
I
can
and
rob's
available
too.
M
Sure,
thank
you.
So
is
there
a
a
longer
term
wesley
acres
master
plan
or
plan
that
10
or
15
even
20
years
out?
So
where
would
your
additional
growth
be
aft
after
these
projects
are
completed?
You're,
obviously,
there's
no
place
more
to
go
to
the
west.
You've
agreed
you're,
not
gonna,
go
more
to
the
south,
so
does
that
mean
you're
gonna
move
to
the
east,
with
additions
to
the
campus.
AB
Okay,
if
you
could
have,
I
think,
that's
a
good
question
for
rob
to
answer.
If
that's
all
right
sure,
I'm
a
little
bit
more
on
the
in
the
weeds
guys.
So,
okay,
vision,
stuff,
is
better
for
rob.
So
you
can
cut
me
off
k
if
you'd
like
and
activate
rob.
H
A
AC
Carl
for
the
question,
so
we
have
a
10-year
horizon,
not
necessarily
a
20-year
horizon,
and
it's
both
programmatically,
as
well
as
from
a
building
site
plan
perspective,
and
so
just
so
not
to
go
too
far
deep
in
this.
But
we
have
done
a
lot
of
market
research
on
the
front
end
before
we
got
started
with
our
master
plan
and
there
is
a
tremendous
amount
of
need,
as
you
can
imagine,
the
city
of
des
moines,
it's
growing
in
the
age
cohorts
of
55
and
older,
and
particularly
in
the
age
75
plus,
so
we're.
AC
We
know
that
there's
a
strong
demand
for
independent
living
are
phase
one
and
I'll
get
back
to
you
know
our
thoughts
on
independent
living,
but
our
our
next
phase
after
this
is
internal
renovation
and
internal
expansion,
to
focus
in
our
short-term
suite
areas,
which
is
a
stoddard
health
center,
as
well
as
replacing
or
adding
to
memory
support
needs,
and
that
would
be
all
internal
to
our
campus.
We
have
a
spot
that
is
in
the
lower
level
of
the
stoddard
health
center
if
you're
familiar
with
the
campus,
but
it's
toward
the
back
the
property.
AC
If
the
des
moines
university
situation
changes
from
what
it
is
currently,
which
is,
as
we
would
characterize,
overpriced
and
with
tremendous
amount
of
academic
buildings
that
don't
lend
themselves
to
a
reuse
for
what
we
do
or
if
we'll
have
a
relationship
with
the
condominiums
that
are
up
and
down
grand
avenue
which
wouldn't
require
any
additional
building
on
our
campus.
M
Sure,
well,
if,
if
you
were
going
to
grow
to
the
east
and
you've
got
this
new
facility,
the
the
pool
and
your,
I
think
it's
called
the
auditorium
right
on
the
west
edge.
It
does.
Does
this
make
sense
to
expand
on
the
west
edge
of
the
campus
when
your
growth
could
be
to
the
east.
There.
AC
AC
Right,
there's
no
promise
that
we
will
ever
expand
to
the
east
and,
secondly,
we
have
an
obligation.
We
feel
to
create
a
situation
on
the
front
of
the
campus.
That's
more
pedestrian!
I
mentioned
before
our
grand
restoration
board
from
several
years
ago.
Grand
avenue
is
the
walking
neighborhood
and
we
have
a
lot
of
hardscapes
that
are
planned
on
the
front
of
the
campus
to
try
to
bring
the
community
and
the
neighborhood
together.
M
Okay,
do
you
have
planned
operation
hours
for
the
pool
and
the
the
question
here
is
well,
if
this
is
going
to
be
a
glass
lit
up
on
the
west
edge
of
the
building,
you
know
what
what
are
the
expectations
of
the
nearest
neighbors.
AC
AB
M
AB
Yeah,
so
the
as
you
know,
looking
at
the
overall
site
plan
that
we
were
looking
at
previously,
obviously
the
the
campus
is
a
full
loop,
obviously
for
fire
and
other
uses.
AB
The
this
area
has
an
entrance
and
exit,
but
not
a
traditional
drop-off
we've
actually
expanded
our
drop-off
and
and
traffic
area
for
drop
off
and
pick
up
to
the
east
side
of
the
property.
If
you
look
at
the
site
plan,
there's
still
some
ability
to
enter
on
the
west
side,
especially
right
at
the
new
additions.
There's
there's
just
some
a
typical
entrance
at
that
location
between
these
two
new
buildings
and
then
one
down
at
the
wesley
grand
which
is
an
existing
entrance.
M
Okay,
and
to
both
of
you,
should.
AX
K
AX
Sure,
mayor
members
of
the
council
board
drost
deputy
planning
administrator.
I
I'm
not
sure
I
understood
the
question
entirely,
but
I
do
believe.
I
don't
believe
that
they're
proposing
a
drop
off
on
that
west
side.
If
you
look
at
their
plan
they're
just
showing
an
entrance
there
between
the
pool
and
the
auditorium
editions,
it
doesn't
look
like
they've
they're
intending
to
have
any
drop
off
happening
there.
So
from
their
site
plan.
It
looks
like
just
a
double
loaded
parking
lot
in
that
western
portion.
AX
On
the
east
or
on
the
south-
or
I
guess
I'm
sorry
in
the
northeast
corner,
I
know
there
is
a
drop
off
there.
M
So,
and,
and
just
one
last
question
to
to
rob
or
darren
regard,
if,
if
we
move
forward
on
this,
there's
been
a
discussion
about
a
suitable.
M
Landscaping
buffering
both
on
the
wesley
property
and
on
the
private
homeowners
property.
Are
you
still
amenable
to
that?
Should
we
move
forward
on
this.
AB
AB
I'm
back
okay,
yeah
yeah,
so
as
I
was
saying,
the
agreement
that
scott
referenced
earlier
and
the
email
that
I
sent
was
a
little
out
of
context
in
the
sense
that
there
are
there's
an
exhibit
that
goes
with
that
agreement
with
scott
and
kevin
that
wouldn't
exist.
If
the
addition
and
to
the
building
wasn't
built.
So
that's
why
it
wouldn't
be
able
to
go
into
effect
because
I'd
have
to
redo
it
anyway,
but
being
amenable
absolutely
that
we've
since
day
one
I
stood
on
their
properties
and
looked
back
at
ours.
AB
It
does
nothing
but
it
but
be
an
advantage
to
them
and
to
us
to
have
that
area
full
of
full
green
trees
of
a
number
of
different
species,
and
that's
what
the
landscape
plan
that
we
included
in
our
packet
of
information
shows
and
michael
garnt
from
bishop
engineering
who's
a
25
plus
year,
landscape
architect
has
been
spearheading
that
and
we've
done
that
collaboratively
with
scott
and
kevin
through
this
period
in
time
with
them
having
an
ability
to
chime
in
on
how
many
trees,
what
kinds
of
trees,
how
big
a
tree
is.
M
So
if,
if
I'm
reading
the
documents
correctly,
there's
there's
some
feeling
that
historically
wesley
has
promised
landscaping
that
they
didn't
follow
through
on
and
so
there's
even
some
residual.
I
don't
want
to
say
bad
feelings,
some
feelings
that
wesley
didn't
hold
true
to
their
plans
in
the
in
the
past
and
so,
like
you
know,
there's
the
the
old
agreements
and
then
there's
this
new
round
of
agreements.
So
there
are
trees
that
apparently
several
believe
were
supposed
to
be
planted
and
never
were.
AB
I
can't
answer
what
the
plan
may
have
been
in
the
past,
but
what
we
have
put
together
collectively
between
scott
myself,
bishop
engineering
and
kevin,
is
a
plan
that
we
executed
an
agreement
to
do
and
to
live
up
to
and
to
notify
them
of
any
of
the
plantings
that
were
diseased
or
just
or
damaged
if
they
had
to
be
removed
and
then
replaced.
AB
So
I
think
I
think
we
we've
answered
that
question
and
again
I
can't
speak
to
the
past.
Unfortunately,
but
I
can
tell
you
what's
in
place
now
is
is
an
agreement
that
we
will
do
what
we've
said.
We're
going
to
do
even
to
the
extent
that
our
last
conversation
between
scott
kevin
and
bishop
engineering
myself
is
that
when
we
go
out
to
figure
out
where
we're
going
to
put
trees,
all
four
of
us
are
out
there
placing
the
flags
to
make
sure
we
get
them
in
the
right
spot.
I
AY
Mayor
county
members
of
the
city
council,
michael
ludwig,
deputy
director
of
development
services,
the
property
zone
planned
unit
development,
so
any
future
amendments
or
proposals
for
for
development
of
property
within
the
pud
boundary
would
have
to
come
back
before
the
planning.
Zoning,
commission
and
city
council.
I
Okay
thanks,
I
just
want
to
comment
too.
I
I've
heard
from
both
both
for
and
against
many
of
the
people
that
live
on
the
property
are
very
supportive
of
it
because
they
believe
they
need
that
enhancement,
and
I
understand
you
know
the
neighbors
concerns
I
have
driven
around
the
campus.
I
have
driven
down
37th
street
I've
sat
in
the
parking
lot
looking
at
the
new
plans
and
the
way
they
try
to
tie
it
all
together
versus
what
is
there.
Currently.
I
I
I
believe
that
this
is
a
project
that
it's
on
their
footprint.
I
believe
it's
an
amenity
that
adds
to
their
campus
and
I
would
be
supportive
of
what
they're
trying
to
accomplish
as
long
as
they
adhere
to
all
the
storm
water
issues.
I
know
there's
been
revisions,
they've
lowered
the
height
they've
shortened.
I
How
far
it's
going
to
come
out.
I
think
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
more
trees,
added
shrubbery
added,
more
complete
landscaping.
That
probably
that's
been
done
in
a
I
don't
know
if
it
ever
really
was
totally
done
in
a
uniform
way.
So
I
think,
with
all
the
changes
I
think
they
have
tried
to
make
as
many
changes
as
they
can
to
enhance
what
will
be
for
the
neighborhood.
F
You
did
thanks,
mr
mayor.
Yes,
sir,
I
I've
you
know,
we've
received
lots
and
lots
of
emails
about
this
project
and
I
appreciate
the
work
that
everybody
has
put
into
it.
I
know
wesley
acres,
you
know
the
neighborhood,
I
know
the
ward
council
person
they've
all
worked
to
make
this
project
work.
I
I'm
still
not
comfortable
with
voting
to
support
this.
I
think
there's
been
too
many
emails
that
have
gone
back
and
forth
that
I've
read
where
you
know.
One
party
didn't
want
to
meet.
F
P
Mayor,
thank
you.
Just
a
follow-up
question
to
carls
about
the
landscaping
in
kevin
and
scott
carlson's
yard,
and
I
believe
wesley
acres
have
spoken
to
them-
are
scott
and
kevin
agreement
that
they
want
additional
trees
like
this
as
fast,
and
maybe
one
of
them
can
jump
on
or
both
of
them,
but
I
would
really
like
to
see
that
screening
inside
their
property,
along
with
wesley
acres,
screening
their
property.
P
I
believe,
and
josh
pointed
out
very
clearly
that
those
two
properties
are
the
ones
most
affected
with
this
expansion,
so
I'd
really
like
to
make
sure
that
they
have
their
proper
screening.
As
part
of
the
motion,
thank
you.
AH
AH
AB
AB
Yeah,
just
one
quick,
additional
comment
on
the
last
plan
that
we
did
with
kevin
working
specifically
on
his
view.
We
actually
did
propose.
As
you
know,
kevin
mentioned.
We
proposed
to
and
offered
to
add
some
landscaping
to
his
side
of
the
fence.
AB
If
that
would
be
helpful
and
of
course
that's
totally
up
to
him,
but
we
did
on
our
side,
propose
taking
out
two
of
our
parking
spots
and
creating
an
area
for
a
much
larger
species
tree
to
be
planted
from
a
nursery
in
oxford,
iowa
that
specializes
in
larger
species.
AB
So
again,
just
just
wanted
to
reiterate
an
extra
level
that
we're
trying
to
go
to
to
to
create
that
buffer,
and
I
know
joe
you
had
that
question,
but
I
wanted
to
add
that
in
there,
because
I
hadn't
brought
that
up
earlier.
AB
What
I'm
hearing
from
you
yeah
joe?
That's,
that's
something
that
most
recently
kevin
and
I
discussed,
and
we
showed
on
a
rendering.
I
don't
know
that
our
placement
was
in
the
right
spot
when
we
showed
him
the
rendering,
because
I
had
our
architect,
do
it
pretty
quick.
But
that
was
a
commitment
I
made
to
kevin
as
well
as
an
offer
to
place
any
additional
trees
in
his
yard.
If
that
type
of
screening
would
be
more
advantageous
to
him,.
P
D
I'm
happy
to
make
the
landscaping
a
part
of
this
motion
and
I
think
we'll
also
have
another
opportunity,
because
the
site
plan
itself
will
still
need
to
come
before.
Council
is
my
understanding,
correct,
so
we'll
have
two
opportunities
to
to
make
sure
we
get
the
landscaping
right.
But
I
joe's
joe's
comment
is
a
friendly
amendment
and
I'm
happy
to
add
that
to
this
process.
AZ
Good
bill.
Thank
you
mayor.
I
kind
of
agree
with
linda's
comments.
You
know
we
wish
there'd
been
a
little
bit
more
collaboration
between
the
two.
That's
always
a
concern,
because
you
know
I
really
want
to
make
sure
our
neighborhoods
grow
and
flourish
and
and
people
can
live
in
a
a
city
that
it's
going
to
enhance
their
their
amenities.
AZ
We
we
had
a
little
bit
of
the
same
over
here,
just
a
couple
blocks
from
my
house
at
calvin
community
and
just
about
the
same
kind
of
pushback
that
the
neighbors
had
towards
their
calvin
west
edition
that
started
in
2017
and
with
good
stormwater
detention,
changes
good
tree
management,
the
the
two
parties
came
together
and
we
we
actually
got
the
pro
the
project
started
and
both
sides
were
happy.
AZ
So
I
I
was
hoping
we
would
get
to
that
here
at
wesley,
but
I
think
with
all
the
amendments
that
we
put
in
here
and
friendly
amendments,
I
think
we've
got
a
solution
that
that
we
can
move
forward
on.
So
I
too
am
going
to
be
supportive
of
it.
K
Okay,
let's
josh
you
quickly.
N
Want
to
restate
your
motion
sure.
D
So
I'm
moving
item
59
and
mayor.
Do
you
want
me
to
reread
the
the
language
that
was
that
I
read
earlier
on.
D
Okay,
move
item
59
with
an
amendment
to
to
have
annual
inspection
and
reporting
on
the
stormwater
detention
basin
to
the
south
portion
of
the
property
and
an
amendment
to
ensure
that
the
landscaping
plan
is
executed
in
advance
of
any
certificate
of
occupancy.
J
M
Yes-
and
I
just
wondered-
I
I
had
my
hand
up,
but
the
pool
hours
is
that
something
that
we
can.
We
can
address
this
way
or
not.
There's
been
some
concern
that
there
would
be
pool
hours
way
in
into
the
night.
Is
that.
M
Within
our
approval
to
actually
do
that.
M
Notice,
I
don't
know
if
that's
a
question
for
bert
or
for
the
the
wesley
life
staff
or
for
josh.
M
Seven
to
eight
yeah:
well,
that's
what
it
is
right
now,
but
there
were
there's
been
concern
that
it's
going
to
be
open
until
until
midnight
or
such.
So
I
didn't
know
if
that
would
ease
some
of
the
pushback
from
the
neighbors
that
the
pool
would
be
open
way
into
the
evening.
N
So
darren
I
apologize
generally
after
we
have
a
motion,
we
don't
take
amendments,
but
we're
gonna
go
ahead
and
let
you
respond
to
this.
AB
Yeah,
thank
you
an
operational
standpoint
and
based
on
our
based
on
our
resident
clientele
and
our
our
staffing.
I
don't.
I
don't
believe
that
after
8
pm
is
going
to
be
an
issue
for
us,
it's
how
we've
operated
for
some
time
at
that
community,
but
yeah.
I
I
I
don't
know
exactly
how
to
answer
quite
honestly,
other
than
that's
that's
been
a
very
common
set
of
hours
for
us,
and
I
don't
think
anyone
in
our
community
would
want
to
use
the
pool
after
8
pm.
AB
M
Remove
my
comment:
yes,.
K
H
N
V
Yeah
this
is
jerriann
mayne's
she
her
pronouns.
I
was
just
wanting
to
speak
up
and
comment
and
just
I
guess
more
question
why
we
spent
so
much
time
just
stop
talking
about
that.
You
guys
never
entertained
any
conversations
regarding
black
lives
for
this
long
ever
so
that's
very
telling
of
what
you.
K
B
AT
Sorry
I
was
like
what's
going
on
here,
yeah,
so
I'm
speaking
on
item
60.,
just
wondering
I
I
do
support
you
know.
Of
course,
switching
to
you
know
electric
vehicles.
I
think
it's
important
that
the
city
moves
away
from.
You
know
fossil
fuels
as
quickly
as
possible.
So
I
think
that
that
is
a
a
good
sign.
I'm
curious
how
far
this
will
go
and-
and
I
know
that
there's
like
new
cruisers
that
are
being
bought
for
the
des
moines
police
department.
AT
So
I'm
wondering
are:
are
there
plans
to
buy
electric
vehicles
for
the
police
department?
What
are
these
11
vehicles
going
to
be
used
for
in
the
fleet,
because
I
do
have
concern
about
the
new
des
moines
police
department,
cruisers
that
I
have
seen
being
bought
they're
very
fancy.
They
look
like
they
cost
a
lot
of
money.
I
think
it's
you
know
really
unnecessary
spending.
AT
I
think
we
should
be
selling
des
moines
police
department
cruisers,
if
I'm
being
honest
with
you
and
maybe
that
could
free
up
some
more
money
for
some
more
electric
vehicles
for
the
city
fleet.
You
know,
folks,
who
work
for
the
city
that
actually
need
to
use
vehicles
that
aren't
going
to
be
using
them
to
just
drive
around
the
city
and
harass
and
harm
black.
AU
Hi
this
is
india
shoemaker
she
her.
I
know,
peyton
shoemaker
wanted
to
speak
on
this
item,
but
she
was
cut
off
for
no
reason,
so
I'm
just
going
to
say
what
she
was
going
to
say.
I
would
like
to
know
what
these
are
going
to
be
used
for,
because
there
is
nothing
on
the
items
in
the
agenda
that
are
describing
what
these
cars
are
being
used
for.
Just
so
you're
buying
11
nissan
leaf
electric
vehicles,
so
I
would
like
a
response.
What
are
these
cars.
K
K
B
BA
Yes,
this
is
nick
shaw
science,
director
of
the
city
of
des
moines.
Can
you
guys
hear
me.
J
BA
Okay,
yes,
the
10
of
these
vehicles
are
for
the
neighborhood
services
inspectors
and
then
there
is
one
for
the
engineering
department
currently
in
this
11
that
we
are
looking
to
to
lease
at
this
time.
Z
Z
Hello,
denver
foot
she
her
pronouns.
I
guess
I'm
glad
that
to
hear
that
these
electric
vehicles
aren't
going
to
the
police
department,
but
I
would
like
to
take
in
consideration.
I
know.
275
000
may
not
see
much
to
city
council
when
we
spend
millions
on
multi
million
dollar
developers.
But
what?
If
we
took
this
275
dollars
from
the
police
budget,
they
are
bankrupting
our
city.
Z
D
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
to
say
that
I'm
pleased
to
see
this
moving
forward.
I
I
I
do
think
we
need
to
continue
to
to
look-
and
I
know
nick
and
folks,
over
at
finance
and
our
fleet
fleet
folks,
I
think,
are
in
the
process
of
looking
at
a
broader
vehicle
transition.
D
You
know:
we've
identified
vehicles
like
this
that
I
think
are
in
in
sort
of
the
the
low-hanging
fruit,
probably
the
first
150
or
so
vehicles,
and
then
there
are
other
vehicles
that
are
harder
to
electrify
and
there
aren't
necessarily
as
good
options
on
the
market
today,
but
I
think
we
need
to
continue
to
be
mindful
of
how
we
transition-
and
this
is
this-
continues
to
be
a
good
step
in
that
direction.
D
H
AA
N
C
N
All
right
item
61.
on
the
matter
of
proposed
authorization
of
a
loan
in
disbursement
agreement
and
issuance
of
not
to
exceed
3
and
fifty
thousand
dollars.
Storm
water
management,
utility
revenue,
capital
loan
notes
and
the
issuance
thereof.
A
is
the
authorization
for
additional
action
quickly,
open
it
up
and
see.
If
there's
any
germaine
comments
to
this
proposed
disbursement
regarding
stormwater.
AA
C
N
N
AU
AA
N
N
I
don't
see
any
eligible
ones,
adam's
been
moved.
Would
you
please
pull
the
council.
N
Item
64,
which
is
on
the
animal
control
facility.
There's
a
resolution
printing
plan
specifications
form
of
contract
documents.
Engineers
has
been
receiving
by
the
and
designating
the
lowest
responsible.
Better
is
graphite
construction.
N
I
think
this
will
allow
us
additional
time
to
reassess
and
reconsider
the
scope
and
the
features
and
the
use
of
that
facility,
so
that
better
serves
the
needs
of
our
community
and
our
partner,
the
animal
rescue
league,
while
we're
all
eager
to
get
this
thing
moving,
delaying
it
will
provide
us
a
potential
possibility
of
some
federal
funding
options
that
go
beyond
the
des
moines
taxpayer
and
a
little
additional
time
will
also
allow
us
to
better
invest
in
more
energy,
efficient
design
and
construction,
such
as
geothermal
and
top-notch
insulation
and
those
sorts
of
things.
N
P
So
scott,
do
we
need
to
make
a
motion
to
reject
all
bids
and
go
back
to
the
drawing
board?
Is
that
what
you're?
Looking
for.
N
L
N
Let's
pull
the
council
on
this
one.
C
N
All
right
item
65
is
on
a
consideration.
The
recommended
capital
improvement
program
planned
cip
for
the
fiscal
years
as
2021-22
through
2025-26
council
communication
number
21-097
a
is
declaring
an
official
intent
under
treasury
regulation.
B
Yes,
mayor,
if
I
could
thank
you
so
this
I'm
going
to
make
comments
that
will
pertain
to
all
the
remaining
budget
items
that
we
have
for
tonight.
Excuse
me
first
off.
I
want
to
thank
everyone
for
their
involvement
in
the
budget
process
this
year,
especially
the
finance
staff
and
and
the
departments
working
through
the
different
options
that
we
have
available
to
us
within
our
budget
and
then,
of
course,
the
many
council
conversations
that
we've
had
and
the
input
that
we've
received
from
the
public.
B
This
budget
is
obviously
a
point
in
time.
I
want
to
remind
council,
as
just
the
previous
item
indicated,
the
situations
do
change
with
opportunities
arising
when
least
expected,
even
at
times
this
budget.
That's
before
you
has
a
start
date,
not
until
july
of
this
year
and
we'll
go
all
the
way
through
june
of
2022.
B
So
it's
very
likely
elements
within
our
budget
will
change
and
we
need
to
be
prepared
for
that
and
be
nimble.
And
so
I
ask
for
your
ability
to
do
that.
As
we
bring
up
potential
changes
throughout
the
year,
we
will
be
transitioning
to
obviously
post
covet
with
additional
businesses.
Opening
up
that
will
be
part
of
our
need
to
remain
flexible,
as
we
do
not
know
at
this
point.
What
some
of
those
needs
might
be
of
our
community
over
the
next
several
months
and
those
additional
requests
that
may
come
to
us.
B
This
budget
overall
continues
its
its
commitment
to
maintaining
service
levels
to
our
residents
and
our
businesses,
as
of
have
been
expected
and
indicated
in
in
service
levels,
with
our
every
other
year's
survey,
there's
a
commitment
that
remains
obviously
with
our
public
safety,
with
our
infrastructure
growth
that
we
are
continuing
to
catch
up
on
our
quality
of
life
initiatives.
B
All
of
that
still
remains
in
this
budget
as
a
strong
commitment,
we
have
also
kept
the
tax
rate
the
same
at
the
sixteen
dollars
and
sixty
one
cents
per
thousand.
We
have
continued
to
make
adjustments
with
covet
19
estimations
on
changes
to
our
revenues,
as
well
as
additional
expenses
that
have
needed
to
be
incurred.
B
We've
continued
to
process
through
federal
funds
through
the
cares
act,
assisting
our
businesses
directly,
putting
some
of
that
quite
a
bit
of
that
money
into
housing
assistance
now,
most
recently,
child
care
and
mental
health
needs.
B
We've
continued
the
re-organization
of
two
of
our
larger
departments.
We
have
added
in
this
budget
additional
resources
to
equity.
We
have
continued
commitment
to
starting
the
property
improvement
program.
We
are
looking
into
the
broadband
which
I
hope
to
bring
back
to
you
here
within
a
matter
of
a
few
weeks.
B
We
a
council's
request.
Additional
funds
have
been
added
to
areas
like
tree
plantings,
spray,
ground
and
playground
equipment,
replacements,
additional
funding
for
sidewalk
improvements.
We
have
a
historic
preservation
plan
that
will
be
put
in
place
as
we
receive
some
additional
state
funding
to
to
pay.
For
that.
B
We
are
moving
up
the
second
avenue
improvements
between
grand
avenue
and
the
interstate.
By
a
year,
we
we
have
identified
a
position
that
can
be
replaced
with
some
contractual
services
for
savings.
For
for
the
next
cycle,
so
we
have
quite
a
bit
of
changes
that
have
been
brought
to
our
attention.
There's
in
addition
to
that
list,
additional
resources
will
be
put
into
our
crisis
response
team
that
will
be
both
in
private
resources
and
within
our
own
police
department,
for
additional
resources
in
responding
to
mental
health
needs.
B
You
heard
recently
about
the
opportunity
to
pursue
cure
violence
that
will
be
pursued
and
available.
Funds
will
be
made
for
that
project
as
well.
Coming
back
to
you
with
an
rfp
first
to
finalize
the
details
of
the
cure
violence
so
mayor
and
council,
I
want
to
appreciate
all
the
time
that's
been
spent
on
this
budget.
I
did
ask
that
nick
spend
just
a
minute
to
overview
the
process
that
we've
we've
been
through,
and
both
he
and
I
at
the
conclusion
of
his
comments,
will
be
available
for
any
questions.
A
BA
Thank
you,
scott
and
hello.
Again,
mayor
and
council
members,
nick
shaw
finance
director
city
of
des
moines,
scott
alluded
to
I'm
just
going
to
kind
of
touch
base
on
the
schedule
that
we
had
in
this
for
this
budget
schedule
for
for
for
everyone,
as
well
as
kind
of
highlight
this
is
kind
of
norm.
BA
This
is
the
type
of
process
that
we
go
through
each
year
with,
with
the
was
affected
a
little
bit
with
covid
with
what
we
did
with
informational
videos
and
and
the
webinar
for
for
the
educational
purposes,
but
all
in
all,
it
is
very
similar
to
what
we
do
on
our
timeline.
BA
What
we
ended
up
doing
to
start
off
the
budget
process
is
we
had
our
workshop,
discuss
the
the
budget
timeline
and
input
on
the
budget
process?
That's
usually
about
the
second
meeting
in
october,
and
then
we
released
the
informational
videos
and
and
opened
up
the.
BA
Public
comment
and
questions
to
the
city
that
we
could
then
address
through
the
webinar
process
and
thereafter,
and
so
we
had
our
webinar
that
allowed
for
public
questions
to
be
submitted
and
addressed
at
that
meeting,
as
well
as
after
after
that,
webinar
as
well.
BA
The
next
step
on
the
process
was
actually
releasing
our
preliminary
operating
budget
cip
book
to
the
council
and
to
the
public,
as
well
as
discussing
that
that
those
books
from
those
preliminary
standpoints
at
the
february
23rd
workshop
as
well,
where
we
kind
of
covered
a
lot
of
the
topics
and
in
greater
detail
and
then
had
additional
input
from
from
the
council
to
make
any
alterations
and,
as
scott
highlighted,
we
did
make
some
alterations
based
off
of
the
priorities
of
the
council.
From
that
workshop
meeting
from
there.
N
All
right,
thank
you.
Nick
linda,
I
see
your
hand
up.
F
It
is
thank
you,
mr
mayor.
I
just
want
to
thank
the
finance
department
and
nick
and
scott
for
the
budget
that
we're
about
to
prove
tonight.
You
know
we
received
a
very
thick
book
and
it
was
so
much
easier
to
understand.
I
don't
think
we've
ever
received
a
budget
book
that
has
been
so
laid
out
in
such
a
way
that
it
was
so
easy
to
understand.
So
I
just
wanted
to
thank
nick
and
the
finance
department
for
their
work.
J
AU
Okay,
so
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
I'd
like
to
ask
really
as
we're
starting
this
budget
discussion,
what
specific
changes
have
been
made
in
the
budget
based
on
resident
input,
constituent
input,
you
guys,
have
been
getting
recommendations
since
at
least
december
22nd.
I
would
like
to
know
what
specific
results
are
coming
from,
that.
N
Scott,
you
want
to
give
a
quick
mention.
B
So
actually,
the
items
I've
already
mentioned
have
been
brought
up
by
the
public.
The
mental
health
and
specifically
with
the
crisis
response,
has
been
something
that's
been
brought
up
at
other
council
meetings.
Clearly,
the
cure
violence
is
something
that's
top
of
mind
for
a
lot
of
our
residents
wanting
to
try
different
opportunities
there.
The
the
list
of
most
recent
changes
again
were
also
subject
to
input
from
the
from
the
general
public,
the
tree
care
and
the
planting.
B
K
W
Thank
you.
I
just
wanted
to
add:
I'm
still
a
little
confused
on
65
because
of
what
indira
mentioned,
but
also
because
we
totally
just
let
mayor
frank
county
disrespect
payday
and
you
all
need
to
check
your
emails.
She
did
email,
y'all
you'll
need
to
let
peyton.
W
S
Hello,
yes,
my
name
is
adam
callahan.
He
him
pronouns.
I
think
that
it's
fairly
obvious
that
there's
been
an
outcry
from
the
public
and
that
outcome
from
the
public
is
not
to
keep
increasing
the
police
budget
and
to
cut
money
from
houseless
services,
but
that's
exactly
what
this
budget
does
it's
gross
and
that
is.
Is
it
gross?
It's
also
gross
that
scott
sanders
will
come
on
here
and
lie
and
say
that's
what
the
public
wants.
We
know
that
it
isn't.
S
Everybody
knows
it,
I'm
glad
the
city
is
moving
towards
cure
violence.
That
is
good.
There
are
some
things
we
can
agree
on
through
all
this,
but
really
mainly
need
to
be
letting
peyton
speak.
She
was
cut
off
for
no
good
reason,
really,
no
reason
at
all
other
than
mayor
county's
ego.
That
is.
N
All
all
right,
let's,
let's
quickly,
go
to
peyton.
I
have
a
communication
here
that
she
said
that
she
was
confused
so
peyton.
Why
don't
you
make
your
comment
at
this
time.
AQ
Hi
yeah,
thank
you
so
much
for
finally
responding
to
my
email,
yeah.
I
was
confused.
I
just
wanted
to
make
jermaine
comments
to
this,
so
I
think
that
we
really
need
to
be
looking
into
the
budget
yeah.
I
think
that,
obviously,
any
increases
to
the
budget
should
be
taken
out
of
the
police
department
budget
because,
as
we
all
know,
they
only
use
that
money
to
terrorize
the
citizens.
AQ
L
AT
This
is
jalen
again
he
him
pronouns
speaking
on
item
65.
This
budget
is
not
good.
It's
not
not
what
the
people
of
des
moines
are
asking
for,
not
what
we
want
to
see
at
all
from
our
city
government,
but
once
again,
you
all
are
prioritizing
your
plans
for
gentrification
your
own
personal
relationships
with
developers
and
landlords
and
the
police
department,
which
we
know
is
violent
and
racist
specifically
on
item
65,
which
we're
talking
about
the
the
capital
improvement
program
plan.
AT
One
major
red
flag
I
see
on
here
is
785
000,
that's
going
to
be
spent
on
police
building
improvements,
not
really
sure
why
we
would
spend
almost
a
million
dollars
to
improve
the
police
station,
which
does
house
the
violent
and
racist
des
moines
police
department.
Instead,
we
should
be
packing
their
bags
packing
up
their
office
supplies
and
getting
them
out
of
that
building.
AT
You
know
that
could
be
a
location
for
a
new
houseless
or
low-income
unit
that
you
know
we
could
put
people
in
so
that
we
have
less
people
sleeping
on
the
streets.
We
should
not
even
have
a
police
building.
You
know
what
happened
in
minneapolis
when
never
mind.
Actually,
but
I'll
just
say
that
we
should
not
have
this
police
building,
we
should
not
be
spending
almost
a
million
dollars
to
improve
it.
Instead,
we
should
be
putting
money
to
help
out
houseless,
folks
and
low-income
folks
in
our
city.
AT
Once
again,
this
budget
does
not
prioritize
the
people
who
live
here
and
instead
prioritizes
your
own
interests
and
continuing
the
racism
continuing
the
oppression
of
black
and
brown
and
low-income
people
who
live
in
this
city.
You
all
should
be
embarrassed
as
city
council
people
look
in
the
mirror
tonight
and
ask
yourselves
what
am
I
doing
to
help
the
people
of
des
moines?
I
promise
you.
It
is.
AT
N
C
Sorry,
your
honor.
I
can't
open
that
one
because
it
isn't
a
current
zoom
and
I
would
have
to
promote
to
a
pen.
N
Okay:
let's
go
to
john.
S
Frank's,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
we
can.
Thank
you.
I
wanted
to
echo
a
lot
of
those
comments,
especially
wanted
to
call
out
that
it's
been
made
clear
by
scott
sanders,
actually
that
in
a
few
years
the
increases
to
police
pay
are
going
to
become
too
much
for
the
city
to
keep
up
with.
S
I
was
wondering
if
anybody
from
the
city
wanted
to
speak
up
on
what
the
plan
was
for
dealing
with
that,
because
it's
something
that
must
have
been
considered
obviously
considered
since
gotten
about
it
months
ago,
so
y'all
must
have
been
considering
it
through
this
process.
So
yeah.
I
was
just
wondering
what
the
solution
was
there
and
what
path
you
all
had
forward
so
that
dmp
does
not
literally
bankrupt
the
city.
J
V
Connie
lester
she
her
pronouns.
I
wanted
to
ask
a
question.
I
want
to
know
how
the
budget
has
been
affected
since
des
moines.
Public
schools
will
no
longer
be
utilizing,
sros,
congratulations
to
them
for
making
that
decision
and
to
the
student
activists
who
made
that
happen.
Congratulations!
V
C
AU
BB
J
BB
Hi,
I
would
just
like
to
echo
the
comments
of
a
lot
of
folks
before
me.
I'm
just
kind
of
wondering
why,
after
you
know,
it's
been
months
and
months
and
months
of
so
many
people
coming
on
these
meetings
and
asking
you
to
defund
dmpd,
you've
decided
to
do
the
opposite
and
actually
increase
their
budget.
That
just
seems
unconscionable
and,
like
you,
aren't
really
listening
to
your
constituents,
because
there
are
so
many
things
that
we
need
here
in
des
moines.
BB
That
could
like
actually
really
help
people
and
yet
you're
continuously
refusing
to
do
that
and
now
you're
you're,
giving
more
money
back
to
dmpd.
That
just
doesn't
seem
like
you're
governing
very
well
or
really
at
all
you're
actually
actively
harming
people
so
yeah.
I
think
I
I
don't
think
you
should
be
able
to
pass
this
budget.
Thank
you.
Z
Hello,
denver
foot
she
her
pronouns.
I
wanted
to
uplift
everyone
who
has
spoken
against
giving
more
funding
to
the
police
department.
I
know
that
is
your
responsibility
to
hold
scott
sanders
up
to
what
the
budget
he
puts
together.
You
blindly
allow
him
to
put
this
budget
together,
and
then
you
let
it
pass
that
isn't
correct.
You
are
elected
officials.
You
should
be
looking
out
for
your
constituents
if
we
could
think
about
a
des
moines
that
we
have
a
beautiful
future
in
where
we
diverge
funding
from
the
police
department.
Z
N
A
N
AS
I
can
hear
me:
yes,
we
can
cool
just
wanted
to
echo
some
of
the
past
comments.
We've
had,
namely
jalen
a
lot
of
people
who
have
come
up
after
him
and
built
off
of
what
he's
talking
about
with
dmpd,
just
have
a
kind
of
related
concern.
I
suppose,
because
it's
related
to
public
safety
when
we're
talking
about
item
65,
I'm
just
curious,
why
there
isn't
any
kind
of
money
being
allocated
to
making
sure
that
we're
securing
polling
locations
and
making
sure
that
they're
staying
safe
to
the
public?
AS
AS
Why
we're
not
doing
anything
or
even
acknowledging
that
there
was
like
a
direct
attack
on
our
supposed
democracy,
yeah
wondering
if
we
could
speak
on
that
maybe
get
some
money
allocated
towards
that
instead
of
a
police
department
that
we
know
is
inherently
racist,
sexist
and
oppressive.
AS
N
C
AP
Hey
mayor
council,
this
is
brenda
mcdonald.
I
don't
usually
chime
in
when
you're
doing
these
things,
but
I
will
tonight
because
we
don't
need
to
take
money
from
the
dmpd.
AP
AP
AP
N
Y
Lewis,
hello
council-
this
is
pertaining
to
the
budget
correct.
Would
that
be
jermaine.
Y
Y
Hello
government,
so
are
we
still
doing
public
comment
after
this
county?
Are
we
still
there.
Y
Public
speaking,
okay,
well
then
I
I
will
table
this
moment
right
now
and
then
I
would
like
to
address
a
few
things
about
you
know
being
more
aware
of
our
citizens
and
how
we
can
continue
to
get
them
involved
and
get
micro
data
from
them.
So
I
will
table
myself
and
then
I'll
push
myself
back
to
public
honda.
Thank
you.
BC
Hi
this
is
emily
mcguire.
She
hers,
so
I'm
currently
a
public
health
student
getting
a
master's
in
public
health,
and
I
actually
focus
on
how
policing
negatively
impacts
the
health
in
our
society
and
preventing
violence
through
public
health
initiatives
rather
than
policing
and
adding
more
money
to
our
police
force.
So
I'm
curious
if
my
council
member,
can
follow
up
with
me
about
parts
in
the
budget
that
are
going
to
be
public
health
measures
and
then
also
I'd
just
like
to
reiterate.
BC
Everyone
saying
that
the
des
moines
police
department
does
not
need
more
money.
We
can
back
it
up
with
research.
People
do
not
feel
safer
when
the
police
are
around.
People
are
not
safer
when
the
police
are
around,
and
so,
if
you
feel
safe,
when
the
police
are
around,
please
check
your
privilege.
Thank
you.
J
X
Hi,
my
name
is
bridget.
I
use
she
her
pronouns
and
I
would
like
to
speak
on
not
giving
any
more
money
to
the
police
department.
They
are
bankrupting
the
city
yeah.
That's
really
all
I
have
to
say
also.
I
want
to
respond
to
justin
lewis's
call
for
more
citizen
input.
Where
have
you
been?
We,
the
citizens
have
been
attending
these
meetings
for
months,
giving
input
what
more?
What
more
input?
Could
you
possibly
need?
Defund,
dmpd.
E
Hi,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes
hi?
This
is
deborah
howell!
Sorry,
you
didn't
recognize
me.
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
I've
been
listening
to
this
all
night
and
it
gets
a
little
ridiculous
all
this
time.
Let
me
start
off
with
I'll,
probably
upset
someone,
so
I
think
we're
supposed
to
say
trigger
warning,
because
here
it
goes.
E
Please
do
not
defund
the
police
again
out
of
the
22
manslaughters
or
20
to
20
cases.
In
the
last
year
they
have
found
taken
care
of
all,
but
two.
E
N
Do
we
have
we've
got
some
public
input?
Do
we
have
a
motion.
N
G
C
N
B
The
council
communication-
the
amendments-
actually,
I
I'm
just
gonna
open
it
up
to
for
nick
and
I
to
answer
any
questions
that
there
may
be.
K
Council
any
questions
regarding.
N
The
budget
amendment
for
the
budget
ending
this
this
current
year
on
june
30.
N
N
All
right,
let's
quickly
open
it
up,
the
item's
been
moved.
We've
got
a
couple
three.
Now
we
got
a
one
speaker.
N
J
AT
Cool,
so
I
just
want
to
you
know:
go
back
to
what
I
was
saying
previously
about
the
budget
and
how
the
city
council
has
done
nothing
to
help
out
the
people
of
des
moines.
Also
looking
really
into
this
budgeting
y'all's
proposals,
I
see
that
you
are
calling
for
about
128
million
dollars
to
be
given
to
public
safety,
about
half
of
that
over
half
of
that,
of
course,
is
going
to
be
allocated
to
the
violent
and
racist
demon
police
department.
AT
What's
curious,
though,
is
within
these
public
safety
dollars
that
are
being
out
advocated?
There's
zero
money,
that's
going
to
be
given
out
for
mental
health,
which
I
think
we
can
all
agree,
is
a
public
safety
issue
or
or
harm
reduction.
When
it
comes
to
folks
who
are
maybe
addicted
to
substances
which
again
is
a
public
safety
issue.
Instead
we're
spending
money
on
guns,
bullets,
bombs,
tanks,
tear
gas,
rubber
bullets,
pepper
spray.
AT
J
AQ
Yeah
first,
I
was
wondering
if
nick
or
whoever
was
offering
to
open
up
to
answer
questions
if
that
was
open
to
the
public
as
well.
If
you
could
answer
questions
from
us.
AQ
I'm
just
wondering,
because
I
think
that
you
know
the
budget
should
be
for
the
people.
So
if,
like
the
people
have
questions,
I
just
don't
think
that
it
should
be
limited
just
to
like
answering
questions
from
council.
So
if
people
in
the
public
have
questions,
I
think
they
should
get
them
answered
as.
N
Well,
so
we've
answered
a
couple
of
the
questions
moving
on
that
are
sitting
with
our
financial
people
here.
This
is
for
the
amendment
to
the
current
year's
budget,
which
ends
in
you
know
three
four
months.
AQ
Okay,
well,
I
just
wanted
to
say
that
well,
this
budget
should
obviously
be
for
the
people,
because
it's
spending
our
tax
dollars.
So
that's
all
I
really
wanted
to
say
is
that
it
should
be
a
people's
decision
and
it
should
all
be
open
to
the
people.
AU
Hi
this
is
india
shoemaker,
pronounced
she
her
talking
on
the
amended
budget.
It
looks
like
this
year.
AU
I
know
we
had
some
interesting
circumstances,
but
I
also
wanted
to
note
that
council
sat
on
relief
money
from
the
federal
government
for
months
at
a
time
like
five
or
six
months,
at
a
time
that
is
only
now
getting
spent,
it
took
a
year
to
get
rent
assistance
to
people,
so
I
don't
really
know
who
that's
helping
that
people
could
afford
to
stay
in
their
apartment
for
a
whole
entire
year
of
unemployment,
sickness
other
kinds
of
issues.
AU
I
also
want
to
note
that
we
overspent
46
million
and
45
million
in
the
capital
projects
and
special
revenue
budgets
in
the
funds
there
we
did
under
spend
or
didn't
get.
You
know
money
from
debt
service
about
58
million,
but
we
still
overspent.
So
your
amended
budget,
like
it's
just
like
indicating
that
you
guys
didn't.
You
know,
weren't
honest
about
what
you
were
planning
to
spend.
AU
N
All
right
just
I'll
make
one
quick
comment.
I
won't
pull
either
nick
or
scott
in
on
this,
but
some
of
those
dollars.
If
there
was
a
delay,
we
try
to
push
it
out
as
quickly
as
possible.
N
We
lacked
on
a
couple
of
occasions
federal
directives
and
guidelines
on
how
that
money
should
actually
be
spent
and
pushed
out.
So
we
were
delayed
on
getting
it
out
and
we
were
disappointed
in
doing
that.
Adam
kelan.
S
Hello,
my
name
is
adam.
I
use
even
pronouns.
I
wanted
to
speak
about
the
budget
and
how
it's
kind
of
sold
to
the
public.
As
you
know,
they
like
prioritize
public
safety,
but
what
we've
seen
in
the
like?
The
studies
that
say
des
moines
safe,
is
what
they're
talking
about
is
just
homicides
des
moines
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
homicides
and
that's
great.
S
The
reason
why
des
moines
doesn't
have
a
lot
of
murderers
is
not
because
of
the
violent
police
department
and
adding
more
money
to
the
police
department
is
not
going
to
make
us
have
more
quote-unquote
public
safety.
Public
safety
looks
like
being
prepared
for
things
like
the
ratio.
It
looks
like
being
prepared
to
keep
people
housed
when
crisis
like
crises
like
pandemic
happen,
but
also
just
in
general,
people
should
be
housed,
and
so
I
don't
know
I
just
I
get
kind
of
upset
not
as
upset
like.
S
I
don't
like
when
people
are
just
blatantly
lying
to
me
and
that's
what
it
feels
like
is
happening.
Whenever
we
talk
about
public
safety
and
then
just
talk
about
quote-unquote
crime,
I
want
to
see
a
public
safety
approach
that
actually
looks
at
public
health
and
actually
looks
at
providing
for
people
and
keeping
people
safe.
That's
all.
V
I
did
get
muted,
but
thank
you
amanda.
She,
her
pronouns.
I
wanted
to
make
sure
it
was
on
record
that
there
was
no
public
input
on
this
budget.
You
guys
acted
like
there
was,
but
when
it
came
time
for
the
meeting,
it
was
a
like
a
presentation
done
by
scott
sanders
ahead
of
time.
There
was
an
opportunity
for
questions.
He
had
a
list
of
questions
that
we
wrote
in
that
he
had
prepared
to
answer
previous
to
the
meeting.
V
So
it
was
not
a
public
discussion
on
the
budget
and
I
would
just
like
to
read
something:
let's
see
here,
scott
specifically
said
with
his
bias
that
he
would
not
label
an
item
as
controversial,
simply
because
a
group
of
ill-informed
residents
are
not
aware
of
how
state
law
and
civil
services
work.
So
scott
believes
we're
all
stupid
in
the
community,
and
I
wanted
to
make
sure
everybody
knew
that
he
thinks
that
we're
being
disruptive
when
we
talked
down
on.
J
Z
Hello,
denver
she
her
pronouns.
I
wanted
to
uplift
everything
that
everyone
said
before
me.
I
definitely
resonate
with
what
adam
said
about
public
safety.
What
does
public
safety
look
like
to
you?
Does
it
look
like
giving
more
funding
to
the
police
department
in
this
last
budget
that
we're
just
finishing
up?
They
got
39
percent
of
the
city
budget.
Z
Imagine
what
we
could
do
if
we
put
that
towards
real
public
safety
and
not
beating
people
with
batons,
macing
and
treating
mental
health
issues
with
violence,
we
could
have
communities
that
flourish
that
look
out
for
each
other
and
help
each
other.
I
just
wanted
to
uplift
that
vision
for
you
all
to
see,
because
I
feel
like
you
get
stuck
in
a
sphere,
and
you
see
this
idea
in
these
thoughts
and
it's
very
hard
to
break
out
of.
N
All
right,
let's
go
back,
do
we
have
a
motion
on
item
66?
Yes,.
AA
C
K
K
N
N
Again,
I
want
to
thank
our
staff,
scott
and
nick
on
a
great
job
and
presentation
in
a
very
a
descriptive
handout
for
the
the
council
to
review
and
and
also
the
general
public.
But
let's
counsel
any
connie.
I
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
bring
up,
because
this
is
for
the
proposed
budget
ongoing
budget,
and
I
do
want
to
thank
the
finance
staff
for
putting
everything
together
and
also
to
our
manager
and
having
discussion
with
him
about
the
many
of
people
have
already
brought
up
about
the
need
for
more
mental
health
work
being
done.
So
we
have
a
commitment
now
that
we
will
be
able
to
get
a
24
7
mental
health
mobile
crisis
unit
going.
I
Currently,
we
do
not
have
it
in
anything
to
cover
for
all
24
hours,
with
the
train
staff
that
really
can
address
the
needs
of
the
people.
We
are
working
with
polk,
county
and
broadlawns
and
to
develop
the
delivery
of
the
care
and
how
we
can
do
what
programs
we
can
have,
whether
it
be
for
the
mental
health
or
sobering
centers
different
things,
and
those
programs
will
cover
both
adults
and
adolescents.
I
I
We
know
that
there's
programs
throughout
the
country
there's
a
star
program
that
was
brought
you
know
brought
up
through
a
neighborhood
and
also
the
crew
program
that
have
been
successful,
and
so
I'm
looking
forward
to
working
with
the
poke
county,
broad
lawns
and
all
the
groups
to
see
what
we
can
bring
in
a
new
way
to
deliver
service
in
des
moines.
So
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
that.
That's
something
that's
within
this
budget
also.
K
M
Oh,
thank
you,
mayor
county.
Yes,
I
I
would
like
to
add
an
accent
to
to
connie's
comments
about
the
mental
health
issues
and
there's,
I
think,
there's
going
to
be
some
exciting
times
working
with
broad
lawns
on
this
and
when,
when
it's
appropriate,
I'd
like
to
move
item
67.
Thank
you.
P
Mayor
thanks,
I
just
want
to
say
thanks
to
scott
nick
and
the
department
heads
for
putting
together
a
a
balanced
budget,
that
we
can
keep
our
tax
levy
at
the
lowest
rate
that
it's
been
in
the
last
15
years.
Good
job,
hopefully
as
we
get
through
post
covid
and
maybe
with
some
more
cares,
act
we'll
look
at
next
year
of
lowering
that
levy
rate
scott
and
maybe
increasing
a
few
of
the
cip,
depending
on
how
the
federal
dollars
shake
out.
P
So
thank
you
for
answering
the
questions
getting
the
stuff
done,
that
you
all
needed
to
get
done
and
I'm
very
supportive
of
this
budget
and
I'm
glad
that
carl
moved
it
forward.
D
Thanks,
thank
you
mayor,
and
I
too
wanna
wanna
thank
scott
and
nick
and
all
the
folks
in
the
department
who
work
so
hard
on
the
the
budget
process
and
answered
a
lot
of
questions
and
spent
a
lot
of
time
working
working
with
us
on
this
budget.
D
I
wanted
to
talk
about
a
couple
different
pieces
that
that
I
think
have
already
been
mentioned,
but
that
I'm
particularly
appreciative
are
able
to
be
funded
out
of
this
budget.
One
is
cure,
violence.
D
D
D
This
forward
is
efforts
on
on
the
mental
health
side
of
public
safety,
and
I
know
she
worked
really
hard
to
get
to
secure
funding
for
making
the
mobile
health
crisis
unit
24
7,
and
that
is
a
step
forward
and
I'm
glad
to
see
that
in
this
budget,
I'd
like
to
see
us-
and
I
know-
we've
started
the
process
of
looking
holistically
at
the
the
calls
that
come
in
and
and
how
we
can
respond
and,
in
some
cases,
better
respond
by
matching
the
need
of
that
call,
whether
it
be
mental
health
or
a
welfare
check
and
providing
providing
responses
that
that
match
that
need-
and
some
of
that
is
effectively
filtering
at
the
front
end.
D
And
then
the
other
piece
we
need
to
do
is
is
to
match
the
service,
whether
it
be
mental,
health
or
social
worker,
and
I
know
we're
continuing
to
look
at
that.
I'm
hopeful
that
we
can
have
a
a
workshop
on
that
in
the
near
future
and
that
we
can
continue
to
make
progress
on
that,
and
I
know
that
there
is-
is
some
flexibility
in
this
budget
to
keep
working
towards
solutions
like
that.
So
I'm
appreciative
of
this.
N
All
right,
let's
quickly
go
to
our
attendees,
it
looks
like
we've
got
a
few
hands
up.
Let's
start
with
indira.
AU
Hi,
india,
she
her
okay,
so
we're
talking
about
the
upcoming
budget.
I
want
to
acknowledge
that
the
police
are
38
of
the
general
fund.
That
is
an
increase
of
3
million
from
last
year.
The
police
and
fire
take
up.
62
percent
of
the
budget
police
take
up
38
of
that
budget,
and
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
that
43
of
that
could
be
completely
eliminated
with
the
patrol
department.
That
is
completely
unnecessary
out
of
362
sworn
officers.
203
are
on
patrol.
We
know
that
broken
windows,
policing
doesn't
work.
AU
We
know
that
all
it
does
is
increase
crime
and
increase
harm
to
black
and
brown
communities,
so
that
whole
thing
needs
to
be
cut.
You
guys
are
talking
about
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars
going
into
mental
health.
That's
wonderful!
Please
should
not
be
involved
in
that
you're
talking
about
hundred
thousand
dollars
going
to
cure
violence.
Please
should
not
be
involved
in
that,
but
then
you're
talking
about
millions
multi-million
dollars,
tens
of
millions
of
dollars
going
to
things
that
we
don't
need
to
be
paying
for
it
is
inflated.
AU
V
All
right,
I
just
want
to
state
for
the
record
again
that
public
comment
was
not
allowed.
Like
public
input
wasn't
allowed
for
this
budget,
we
weren't
given
the
opportunity
to
express
how
we
feel
we
submitted
questions,
but
they
weren't
taken
seriously
moving
on.
We
could
go
ahead
and
eliminate
the
neighborhood-based
service
delivery
program
within
the
dmpd.
That
is
two
million
two
hundred
ninety
seven
dollars
right
there.
That
program
is
not
necessary.
The
office
of
professional
standards
is
not
necessary.
That's
another
five
hundred
thousand
dollars
we
can
eliminate.
V
They
don't
do
anything,
they
don't
protect
the
public
at
all.
So
we
don't
need
that
they
have
dana
winger
to
protect
them.
Bison
narcotics
can
be
eliminated,
that's
12
million
dollars
alone,
legalize
all
drugs.
We
don't
need
to
be
penalizing
folks
who
are
addicted
to
drugs.
We
need
to
be
helping
people
like
you
guys
kind
of
just
stated
about
mental
health
issues.
I
don't
know
the
detective
section
is
iffy
to
me.
I
don't
think
that
they
solve
as
many
crimes
as
one
of
those
racist
individuals
decided
to
try
to
spew
weird
facts.
AZ
AS
Hello
brad:
he
him
want
to
uplift
the
comments
previously
made
by
indira.
I
thought
she
did
a
really
good
job
of
yeah,
laying
just
like
kind
of
what's
at
stake
for
us.
Every
time
we
decide
to
give
more
money
to
dmpd,
also
connie
bozen.
I
do
appreciate
your
remarks
regarding
mental
health,
crisis
response
and
stuff,
like
that.
That's
really
good.
AS
I'm
just
wondering
with
this
three
million
dollar
budget
increase
going
to
dmpd
for
2022,
I'm
wondering
how
much
more
we
could
have
done
regarding
mental
health
response
and
caring
for
these.
These
people,
in
our
neighborhoods
in
our
communities
that
are
in
crisis
instead
of
getting
giving
more
money.
Excuse
me
two
dmpd
who
are
like
in
the
midst
of
several
high-profile
public
cases
right
now
and
really
just
draining
more
money
from
our
community.
That
desperately
needs
to
be
going
towards
things
like
mental
health,
towards
things
like
structure.
AT
Me,
yes,
I
really
just
want
to
uplift
what
all
the
other
speakers
have
said
previously,
especially
indira.
So
on
point
shout
out
to
you
and
dira,
you
are
so
fierce
and
so
smart
much
smarter
than
bill
gray
as
it
pertains
to
this
budget.
I
will
just
say
that
again,
this
is
wholly
unacceptable.
AT
You
all
are
expanding
the
police
budget,
so
you
know
carl
vos
and
josh
mandelbaum
and
connie
bozen.
Everything
that
you
all
said
is
all
fine
and
dandy.
Yes,
but
you
are
still
giving
more
money
to
the
police
after
they
have
been
violent
after
they
have
been
breaking
the
law
after
they
have
been
forcing
us,
the
taxpayers,
to
pay
out
millions
of
dollars
in
settlements.
You
are
rewarding
them,
you
are
giving
them
more
money.
There
is
no
punishment.
There
is
no
accountability.
Once
again,
there
should
be
no
increase
in
the
police
budget.
AT
It
must
be
reduced.
Any
budget
that
increases
the
police
dollars
is
wholly
unacceptable.
I
will
say
this
again:
you
all
cannot
expand
the
police
budget.
It
must
go
down.
This
is
for
the
safety
and
the
well-being
of
everyone
in
our
community.
If
you
care
about
everyone
in
our
community,
you
will
listen
to
the
people.
L
S
I
kind
of
want
to
pick
up
where,
where
jaylen
left,
uplifting
jayla
and
anna
dear
and
everybody's
comments
really,
but
it's
it's
worth
remembering
that
it
was
exposed
that
the
gold
braid
police
union
sent
threatening
letters
to
council
also,
we
know
that
bring
out
refused
to
work
with
the
marijuana
task
force
and
it
seems
a
good
place
if
you
know
if
we
have
to
for
some
reason,
increase
the
police
budget,
three
million,
we
could
use
that
to
somehow
negotiate
with
them
and
say:
hey
you
know.
S
Well,
maybe
we'll
give
you
three
million.
If
you
actually
like,
follow
our
rules,
but,
like
jillian
said,
there
is
no
accountability,
there's
no
line
item
for
even
the
low
standard
of
just
like
hey.
Maybe
we'll
give
you
money.
If
you
listen
to
us
that
doesn't
even
exist
here
either
that
or
you
actually
like
everything
the
police
has
been
doing.
Police
have
been
doing
even
when
they
publicly
threaten
and
publicly
question
your
power
yeah.
I
also
want
to
touch
on
that
connie
said
some.
Some
really
great
things
that
the
city
is
doing.
S
It
feels
like
when
great
things
could
happen.
The
public
is
almost
never
involved,
though.
When
we
build
these
great
community
solutions,
we
should
really
be
involving
the
public.
So
we
come
to
really
the
best
outcome,
because
people
know
the
solutions
they
need
time.
J
X
All
right
bridget
she
her
pronouns
yeah.
I
just
basically
want
to
echo
and
uplift
what
everyone
else
has
said,
particularly
indira.
I
want
money
taken
away
from
the
police
department.
I
do
not
want
more
money
given
to
the
police
department
yeah.
I
I
can't
think
of
anything
else
that
hasn't
already
been
said,
but
I
grew
up
in
linda
westergard's
ward.
I
currently
now
live
in
bill.
Gray's
ward
and
every
community
I've
ever
lived
in
in
des
moines
has
been
over
policed.
X
I
grew
up
low
income,
so
I
have
seen
the
effects
of
an
over-militarized
police
force
descending
on
my
community
not
to
make
anyone
feel
safer,
but
to
criminalize
poverty,
I'm
sick
of
it-
and
I
would
so
much
rather
this
money
go
to
addressing
the
root
causes
of
criminal,
behavior
and
restorative
justice,
not
further
criminalization
of
poverty
and
blasphemy
in
the
city.
K
J
AR
Hi,
it's
ava.
Are
you
she
her?
Are
they
them
pronouns?
It's
interesting.
So
obviously
I
want
to
uplift
and
echo
pretty
much
everything
that
has
been
said
so
far
about
defunding
police,
not
giving
them
any
more
money,
but
I
find
it
interesting
that
both
josh
and
connie
mentioned
mental
health
so
much
because
I
think
it's
really
important
to
fund
mental
health
services,
but
I
also
think
that
going
hand
in
hand
with
that
means
decreasing
the
amount
of
contact
that
citizens
have
with
police
officers.
AR
So
I
know
that
if
you
talk
to
me
or
any
of
my
close
community
members
that
were
brutalized
and
attacked
and
traumatized
by
dmpd
this
summer,
that
wasn't
good
for
our
mental
health,
so
I
think
giving
them
300
or
3
million
more
dollars
for
2022
is
not
representative
of
good
mental
health
practices
so
that
we
should
have
less
money,
less
power,
less
contact
with
all
citizens
of
des
moines.
Thank
you.
N
BD
Hi
yeah,
I
have
a
question
about
the
recommended
2021-22
fiscal
year
budget,
so
the
only
budget
I
can
find
with
the
departmental
summary
is.
It
still
has
the
city
spending
almost
700
900
000
on
the
sro
program.
That
program
has
not
been
utilized
fully
since
the
school
shut
down
last
spring
about
a
year
ago,
so
total
this.
This
budget
within
dmpg
for
the
sros
is
1.5
million.
BD
Half
of
that
comes
from
the
dmps,
the
public
school
system
here,
and
they
have
decided
to
cancel
that
contract
with
the
city,
because
you
know
the
schools
recognize
that
police
officers
and
schools
traumatize
children
criminalizes
children.
It
doesn't
provide
anything
for
school
safety.
So
I'm
wondering
where
that
709
700
900
000
is
going
now
within
impd.
J
BC
Hi
emily
she
hers.
So
I
would
like
to
echo
what
everyone
else
said
and
further
zero
and
on
the
point
that
both
council
person,
mandelbaum
and
bozen,
were
willing
to
talk
about
the
positives
in
public
health
initiatives
and
then,
when
they're,
in
the
position
of
power
to
vote,
to
give
them
more
money
and
to
take
money
away
from
dmpd,
which,
if
you
know
that
those
public
health
initiatives
work
better,
then
you
know
that
dmpt
does
not
work
for
those
situations.
BC
N
Z
Hello,
denver
she
her
pronouns.
I,
if
you
compare
to
the
last
year's
police
budget,
police
used
33
million
dollars
on
patrols,
90
percent
of
what
patrols
per
which
were
due
to
mental
health
police
are
not
trained
in
dealing
with
mental
health.
They
actually
have
been
trained
in
kiloology
training,
which
she
trains,
police
officers
to
use,
force
and
not
be
afraid
to
use
a
gun
or
to
strangle
people
or
like
with
me.
They
used
batons
and
maced
me
and
beat
me
to
the
point
where
I
thought
I
was
going
to
die.
Z
I
now
have
to
pay
200
out
of
pocket
a
month
for
therapy
and
that
doesn't
include
my
bills
for
going
to
the
doctor
after
that
happened
to
me
and
just
imagine
what
we
could
do
if
we
diverted
that
money
from
police
and
actually
did
something
with
mental
health.
You
talk
so
highly
about
mental
health,
but
it's
not
it's.
It
doesn't
matter
if
you're
not
going
to
take
money
from
the
police
department
because
they
terrorize
our
communities,
and
that
is
all
I
just
want
you
to
listen.
Z
K
AQ
Hi,
I
just
wanted
to
say
I
think
it's
great
that
you
know
all
these
people
did
so
much
work
on
the
budget
and
your
the
government.
But
you
know
the
corporation
in
our
government
unfortunately
starts
way
down
the
line
and
that's
why
this
budget
does
not
at
all
reflect
what
anyone
in
this
city
actually
wants.
AQ
We
can't
give
more
money
to
the
police,
because
you
know
an
extra
three
million
dollars
that
they're
getting
from
the
budget
this
year
and
also
they
shouldn't
even
be
getting
like
most
of
the
money
that
they're
getting,
but
you
decided
to
give
them
an
extra
three
million
could
be
helping
the
people
in
the
community
so
much
more
than
giving
that
money
to
the
police.
All
they
do
is
terrorize
the
community
they're
literally
a
mob
who
threatens
council
members.
I
don't
know
why
you
give
them
more
money.
They
don't
listen
to
you.
AQ
So
why
are
you
giving
them
any
money
at
all?
You
know
when
your
dog
poops
on
the
carpet,
you
don't
reward
it
and
then
ask
it
to
like
go
poop
in
more
places,
which
is
exactly
what
you
guys
are
doing
right
now.
You're
rewarding
your
dog
for
pooping
in
the
middle
of
the
carpet.
This
budget
needs
literally
an
entire
overhaul.
You
need
to
vote
no
on
it
and
completely
redo
it,
because
it
doesn't
reflect
the
will
of
the
people
of
des
moines
at
all.
So
you
need
to
change
it.
AQ
K
J
BB
Hi
this
is
molly
arndt,
I
use
they
them
and
she
her
pronouns
yeah.
I
just
wanted
to
uplift
everything.
That's
been
said.
I
agree
with
it.
I'm
really
really
disturbed
by
the
lack
of
you
taking
into
account
the
public
comment.
That's
been
going
on
at
these
meetings
regularly
for
months
and
months.
Also,
I'd
just
like
to
point
out
similar
to
what
emily
was
saying
like
you.
BB
To
the
public
as
a
whole,
you
clearly
know
that
the
police
are
dangerous
and
that
they
are
violent
and
that
they
cannot
be
trusted
with
the
public.
So
why
are
you
giving
them
more
money?
It
doesn't
make
any
sense
like
you're
contradicting
yourselves.
With
this.
Like
I
support,
I
support
the
mental
health
units.
I
think
that's
great
and
I
think
we
need
to
be
doing
more
of
that.
But
how
can
you
sit
here
and
give
the
police
more
money?
You
have
been
giving
jacob.
AG
All
right,
this
is
jake
at
ucm,
pronouns
yeah.
I
want
to
echo
what
a
lot
of
people
have
said,
especially
molly,
bridget
and
dira.
So
cops
can't
help
us
when
we're
dealing
with
poverty
when
we're
living
on
the
streets,
we
don't
have
permanent
housing.
These
mental
health
issues
stem
from
all
of
that
and
cops
can't
help
us
in
fact
they're
killing
us
and
that's
why
we
get
on
these
calls
every
other.
We
every
other
week
to
tell
you
that
this
budget,
this
process
was
not
inclusive.
AG
K
J
V
All
right,
I
just
wanted
to
ask
a
question:
that's
been
posed
a
few
times
tonight
and
you
guys
are,
I
don't
know
missing
it
or
avoiding
it,
but
I
would
like
to
know
how
the
removal
of
sros
from
des
moines
public
schools
affects
the
budget.
I
want
to
see
what
changes
are
made.
That's
1
million
250
dollars,
that's
no
longer
being
spent
for
sro.
So
what
are
we
spending
on?
V
I
know
that
fifty
percent
of
that
was
being
paid
to
the
city
by
dmps,
but
the
other
50
percent
of
that
is
what
are
we
going
to
do
with
that?
I
think
it's
also
really
strange
that
all
of
the
council
members
were
thanking
the
finance
department
for
doing
their
job
and
you
didn't
even
do
it.
Well,
you
didn't
include
public
comment.
You
didn't
engage
the
public
in
this
conversation,
it's
almost
as
if
you're
only
listening
to
the
two
racist
elderly
white
women
that
call
in
every
meeting.
AF
V
R
Yeah
I'd
like
to
uplift
the
previous
comments
as
well.
My
name
is
chris.
I
you
see
him
pronouns.
I'd
also
like
to
express
my
disappointment
in
this
upcoming
budget.
R
As
we've
heard
many
times
and
seen
many
times,
dmpd
has
proven
their
violence
and
racial
discrimination
over
and
over
and
continue
to
only
get
rewarded,
and
not
only
could
we
not
pass
the
citizen
review
board
and
now
we're
giving
them
more
money
which
doesn't
make
any
sense.
R
We
could
be
well
using
that
three
million
for
much
better
places.
One
night
connie
mentioned
mental
health,
housing
assistance
and
as
indirect
expertly
mentioned.
Well,
I'm
sorry
smartly
mentioned
that
we
should
be
looking
at
these
food
deserts
and
looking
to
help
food
insecurity
and
food
instability
in
our
communities
and
how
about
opening
a
24-hour
warming
station
or
doing
what
we
can
to
help
individuals
stay
out
of
these.
K
J
BE
Hi,
my
name
is
oliver
weilein.
I
am
actually
a
resident
of
iowa
city
iowa,
but
I
listen
to
these
meetings
because
I
think
des
moines
can
set
a
precedent
for
a
lot
of
what
goes
on
around
the
state,
and
I
hear
a
lot
of
talk
about
mental
health
and
these
crisis
response
teams,
which
is
really
really
good,
because
I
myself,
I
am
a
direct
support,
professional.
I
work
with
people
who
have
maladaptive
behaviors.
BE
I
specialize
in
autism,
and
these
are
the
exact
type
of
people
who
would
be
mistakenly
contacted
by
police
officers
instead
of
a
crisis
team
and
the
biggest
thing
that
I
stay
up
at
night.
BE
Thinking
about
this,
I
it
really
makes
me
lose
sleep
is
my
number
one
fear
of
a
police
officer,
even
in
iowa
city,
harming
one
of
the
people
that
I
work
with,
and
that
is
a
sentiment
of
so
many
people
that
work
in
my
position-
and
I
think
it's
just
you
know
having
a
police
officer
even
go
with
the
crisis
team-
is
a
complete.
It
completely
defeats
the
purpose
and
misses
a
point
because
they're
the
people
that
will
kill
the
people
I
work
for
and
they're
the
people
that
will
harm
the
people.
K
AD
Yes,
can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
thanks,
I'm
luisa!
I
live
here
in
des
moines.
He
him
pronounced
just
wanted
to
yeah
uplift
and
echo
the
comments
that
were
made
about
defining
the
police.
AD
I
wanted
to,
I
guess,
kind
of
share
about
the
needs
that
I'm
seeing
and
my
community
and
the
people
that
I'm
around
here
in
des
moines
and
it's
clear
to
me
that
we
have
a
health
crisis
not
only
with
covet,
but
also
with
mental
health
and
addiction,
and
I
think
that
we
should
stop
criminalizing
people
who
use
drugs
and
instead
offer
you
know
other
ways
to
help
our
community
be
healthier,
which
you
know
would
include
getting
rid
of
police
officers
who
are
harassing
people
and
trying
to
find
drugs
and
and
pulling
people
over,
because
they
look
suspicious
like
that's.
AD
That
does
not
help
at
all
and
it
does
not
make
our
community
safer.
They
kept
you
from
decriminalizing
or
doing
anything
really
with
the
what
the
marijuana
task
force
time
and
you.
N
Right
looks
like
our
last
speaker
that
hasn't
spoken
is
debbie.
E
J
E
That
but
I
don't
think
it
was
24
hours
and
it
is
important,
I'm
glad
that
we're
going
to
have
that,
but
police
officers
do
make
the
initial
visit
with
the
crisis
center,
at
least
they
used
to,
because
you
don't
know
what
that
they're
coming
up
against.
So
let's
try
to
get
along.
I
mean
how
can
the
you
expect
us.
E
K
U
Hi
this
is
leah,
I
usually
her
pronouns.
I
just
wanted
to
express
some
concerns
for
citizen
deborah.
It's
past
your
bedtime
go
drink,
some
water
good
night.
N
All
right,
carl,
thank
you.
Would
you
pull
the
council
please.
AA
C
N
Right:
let's
note
that
it's
805
and
that's
ends
our
hearings.
Let's
go
back
now
to
our
next
speaker.
I
think
it's
matteo.
Y
AF
It
is
a
problem,
it
continues
to
be
a
problem
and
we
would
like
to
know
what
the
city
council
is
going
to
do
to
advocate
for
the
marijuana
task
force's
recommendations
or
have
you
just
washed
your
hands
of
it?
We
will
send
a
follow-up
email
to
council
members
tomorrow
and
expect
a
response
by
friday
march
12th.
Thank
you.
M
D
May
I
I
believe
I
think
it's
just
worth
clarifying.
I
think
we've
registered
on
a
number
of
the
marijuana
related
legislation
consistent
with
the
task
force,
but
it
if
maybe
scott,
could
clarify
that
real
quick.
B
Yeah
we
absolutely
have
registered
in
support
of
the
last
two
bills
that
we've
seen
come
through.
I
guess
I
don't
have
the
specific.
N
So
I
believe
you're
right
josh
that
we
have
we've
registered
in
sport.
N
I
have
a
note
here
that
earlier
it
looked
like
brenda,
mcdonald
wasn't
able
to
be
on,
but
I'm
seeing
that
she
is
on.
So
why
don't
we
see
if
we
can
get
brenda
up
to
speak.
AP
AP
I'm
I'm
the
normal.
I
I
believe
we
need
the
police
department,
we
have
a
great
police
force,
they
do
their
job,
they
do
their
jobs.
Well,
no,
they
did
not
prevent
the
shootings,
but
thank
goodness
they
were
there
to
arrest
the
evil
people
that
did
shoot
a
two-year-old
in
the
head.
AP
N
It
looks
like
I
think
that
earlier
we
called
on
molly
hart,
but
she
was
unable
to
get
on
at
that
time.
Let's
give
molly
a
chance
now
if
she
is
still
on
molly.
BB
Hi
yeah,
this
is
molly
all
right.
Can
you
hear
me.
J
BB
Yeah,
I
actually
prefer
they
them
pronouns.
So
if
you
could
get
those
right
in
the
future,
that
would
be
cool
yeah.
So
I
live
in
ward
1
and
I
guess
I
just
wanted
to
ask
council
like
a
very
serious
question
today.
BB
Why
don't
you
want
to
use
your
power
to
listen
to
your
constituents
and
make
the
city
a
better
place
to
live?
This
is
such
a
beautiful
community?
It's
a
beautiful
city,
and
there
are
so
many
dedicated
people
who
work
hard
to
help
their
neighbors
and
organize
against
injustices,
and
there
shouldn't
be
this
many
problems
because,
instead
of
providing
housing
for
our
houseless,
neighbors
council
will
build
a
parking
garage
built
with
nepotism
and
wasted
tax
dollars
and
instead
of
youth
programs
and
community
safe
spaces.
Council
builds
a
stadium
that
nobody
wants
instead
of
cheap
public
utilities.
BB
The
des
moines
police
department
exists
to
uphold
white
supremacy
and
enact
violence
on
our
black
indigenous
queer,
immigrant
and
poor
neighbors,
and
instead
of
this
violence
we
could
have
real
community
safety.
You
need
to
defund
dmpd
and
be
accountable
for
the
harm
you
have
caused.
We
need
our
city
council
to
care
about
the
safety
and
well-being
of
the
people
that
live
in
this
city
because
we
are
facing
so
many
challenges.
The
pandemic
is
far
from
over.
BB
We
haven't
even
begun
experiencing
the
full
breadth
of
the
economic,
mental
and
physical
health
crises
it
has
caused
with
climate
change.
The
climate
catastrophes
like
the
derecho
or
the
polar
vortex
are
only
going
to
get
more
and
more
dangerous.
People
are
struggling
so
much
and
yet
we're
met
with
hostility
and
violence
over
and
over
again
for
simply.
A
K
N
Right
is
viola,
perry
still
on.
O
Up,
I'm
ready
council
members
viola
perry
des
moines
cci
racial
justice
team
now
look.
This
is
the
follow-up
from
the
2018
racial
profiling
ordinance
with
community
input
presented
to
the
council
with
six
key
points.
Now
in
2019,
the
racial
justice
team
and
community
members
consistently
pushed
for
the
passing
of
the
profiling
ordinance
with
2020.
O
N
AU
Yeah,
great
okay,
so
y'all
just
passed
this
budget,
which
we
knew
you
would,
and
it
is
very
clear
to.
I
believe
everybody
on
this
call,
even
those
who
don't
agree
with
our
viewpoints,
that
y'all
have
zero
imagination
about
what
the
city
could
be.
AU
AU
Nothing
is
going
to
be
the
same
and
you
all
have
not
changed
a
single
thing.
You're
staying
with
over
funding
a
police
department,
you
say
I
asked
specifically
like
what
citizen
or
resident
or
constituent
input.
Have
you
all
taken
and
put
into
this
budget,
because
I
know
you
aren't
listening
to
those
of
us
who
you
don't
deem
articulate
you
aren't
listening
to
those
of
us
who
don't
have
some
kind
of
corporate
interest.
AU
You
say.
Oh,
we
set
a
couple
hundred
thousand
dollars
over
there.
We
sent
twenty
four
thousand
dollars
over
there
for
like
sidewalks
and
parks,
and
things
like
that.
But
when
we're
talking
about
completely
like
changing
the
things
that
based
on
the
needs
of
the
people
in
the
city,
you
don't
listen
and
you
don't
care.
AU
Y'all
are
literally
so
irrelevant.
People
like
have
needs
in
this
city
that
you
all
are
not
meeting.
And
yet
you
take
our
money.
You
take
money
of
property
owners
in
this
city
and
then
you
give
that
to
things
that
property
owners
don't
want
that
don't
help
us
people
are
struggling,
people
are
dying.
We
had
a
year
of
no
help
from
you.
K
N
AQ
Hi,
I'm
right
here.
I
just
wanted
to
have
a
couple
of
comments.
First,
I
want
to
talk
about
the
odor
control
thing
of
the
was
on
the
meeting
before
so
yeah.
Anyone
who's
been
to
any
of
these
city
council
meetings.
Really,
you
know
we
don't
need
a
special
training
to
smell
dog
poop,
since
we
get
served
it
every
two
weeks
at
these
meetings
and
then
next
I
want
to
talk
about
the
conflict
of
interest
that
you
guys
talked
about
earlier.
AQ
AQ
Next
item
53
on
this
agenda,
I
emailed
all
of
you
about
it,
the
parking
garage
you
just
approved
prices
for
that
parking
garage
to
charge
the
public
to
park
there
when
you
already
charged
us
basically,
because
you
took
all
of
our
tax
money
to
pay
for
it
because
of
your
incompetence
to
not
you
know
like
have
people
build
it
correctly
or
whatever
is
going
on
there.
So
really
that
should
have
been
a
free
garage
for
everyone,
since
you
already
made
us
pay
for
it
with
our
tax
money.
AQ
So
I
don't
know
why
you
approved
that.
The
next
thing
I
wanted
to
say
was
there's
going
to
be
like
some
kind
of
horse
fare
at
the
fairgrounds,
that's
not
going
to
have
any
mass,
and
I
was
pretty
sure
we
had
a
mask
mandate
in
the
city,
but
I
guess
it's
just
not
enforced,
because
you
know
we
have
a
ton
of
indoor
events
with
no
masks
on.
So
if
you
could
actually
just
like
do
something
to
protect
the
people
who
live
here.
That
would
be
great.
AQ
Next,
I
want
to
talk
about
the
des
moines
register.
Article
county
said
something
was
on
record
lying
about.
Basically,
the
council
rules,
I'm
saying
that
it
depends
on
how
many
people
sign
up
to
speak,
and
that,
like
gives
us
our
speaking
time,
but
really
that
only
started
after
bypoc
started
getting
on
the
meeting
and
you
changed
the
rules
to
make
it
that
way.
So
I
really
think
you
should
have
said
something
about
that,
then
last
the
police
budget.
AQ
Obviously,
you
just
approved
that
you
really
shouldn't
have
approved
any
of
that
budget
because,
as
I
said,
it
was
all
terrible
you
take
money,
you
need
to
take
money
away
from
the
police
because
they
clearly
only
use
that
money
to
terrorize
people
and
we've
already
heard.
N
Y
Oh,
am
I
going
now?
Oh
gosh,
okay,
all
right
so
good
morning
or
no
good
afternoon.
I
wanted
to
talk
specifically
about
equity
in
our
city
government
and
increasing
citizens
involvement.
This
was
early
at
the
start
of
this
meeting,
but
it
seems
like
even
more
timely.
I
would
really
like
to
ask
and
speak
to
increasing
the
speaking
time.
Y
I
know
this
may
create
marathons
meetings
that
can
be
long
and
tireless,
but
I'm
a
big
believer
that
data
comes
from
the
citizens
when
we
they
are
being
when
they
are
given
criticism
and
our
leaders
are
being
scrutinized
and
that
really
really
needs
to
be
addressed.
We
need
to
extend
these
public
comments
to
at
least
five
minutes
so
that
people
can
feel
comfortable
when
they're
speaking
right
now.
Y
I
I
feel
anxious,
because
I
I
can't
spill
all
my
key
points
and
most
people
don't
get
comfortable
with
public
speaking
until
30
seconds
in
so
we
really
need
to
expand
that
out
also
pushing
the
start
times
back
to
maybe
even
six
or
five
five
five
to
six
o'clock
p.m.
Y
One
I
have
a
young
family.
I
actually
miss
all
all
the
time
with
my
children
today,
because
I've
been
sitting
on
a
meeting
wanting
to
speak
and
address
some
of
these
things,
where
working
families
and
and
working
folks
could
be
able
to
attend
and
be
involved
with
their
government
and
then
also.
I
wanted
to
talk
about
also
streaming
these.
These
meetings
on
social
media
platforms
as
the
world
is
growing
closer
towards
live
video
and
live
streaming.
K
Q
Q
Q
N
N
I
want
to
thank
council
members
for
your
patience
and
also
for
staff
and
your
hard
work
this
year,
we're
heading
into
2021,
hopefully
given
a
hopefully
lessening
in
the
pandemic
and
in
the
vaccines
that
are
in
place
that
the
we're
gonna
move
into
a
year
where
we'll
get
back
to
a
little
bit
of
normal.
So
thank
you
all
again
and
with
that,
this
meeting
is
important.