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From YouTube: 7-12-21 City Council Quarterly Work Session
Description
Des Moines City Council quarterly work session on Monday, July 12, 2021.
Discussion Topics:
00:00 Botanical Garden Site Master Plan Refresh
23:41 Electric Vehicles/Alternative Fuels
01:07:14 Wastewater Reclamation Authority (WRA) Update
01:48:22 Private Property Towing
02:18:01 COVID Response: Housing
03:13:19 New Resources for Neighborhoods
Download the presentations: https://DSM.city/citycouncil_detail_T60_R1575.php
A
A
I
grew
up
in
the
quad
city
area,
got
my
undergraduate
degree
at
the
university
of
iowa,
I'm
very,
very
happy
to
be
back
in
the
state
of
iowa,
where
I've
spent
so
much
of
my
life
and
and
closer
to
my
family.
My
my
sister
and
her
husband
and
their
two
children
have
been
in
greater
des
moines
for
over
20
years.
My
parents
retired
here
to
be
close
to
one
of
their
two
kids,
and
so
I've
spent
a
lot
of
time
in
this
community
and
I'm
very,
very,
very
happy
to
officially
I'm.
A
A
Yep,
that's
it
so
today.
What
I
am
very
pleased
to
share
with
you
is
just
a
review
of
some
of
the,
where
we've
been
right,
we'll
level
that
we'll
do
a
little
context
setting,
because
this
is
not
the
first
time
that
the
city
council
has
reviewed
information
like
this
and
a
number
of
your
committees
and
commissions,
and
forgive
me
if
I'm
not
getting
all
the
titles
correct,
have
also
been
actively
involved
in
this
process.
A
I'll
also
walk
you
through,
where
the
garden
currently
is.
We've
made
some
updates
in
the
past
year
in
particular,
but
really
do
a
little
level
setting
that
way
and
then
we'll
talk
about
the
refresh
of
the
sitemaster
plan
from
the
original
2012
version
and
bring
up
for
each
of
you
some
of
the
highlights
of
what
we
intend
to
do
over
the
next
day
throughout.
Please,
let
me
know
if
you've
got
any
questions.
A
I'd
be
more
than
happy
to
address
them,
so
the
mission
of
the
greater
des
moines,
botanical
garden,
is
exploring
explaining
and
celebrating
the
world
of
plants
we're
very
excited
to
participate
in
that
process.
The
intent
of
the
site
master
plan
refresh
is
really
to
engage
the
community
in
a
very
deep
way.
We
want
people
to
come
and
spend
more
time
with
us.
We
want
people
to
come
and
enjoy
longer
visits,
learning
more
about
plants.
Thank
you
so.
A
A
Thank
you.
Let's
see,
if
I
can.
Okay,
yes,
yeah.
It
works.
Okay,
we'd
like
to
be
able
to
also
address
education
very
intentionally
again
going
back
to
the
des
moines
water
works,
roots,
connection
and
connections
to
the
greater
des
moines,
botanical
garden,
as
well
as
increasing
sustainability
in
a
number
of
different
ways
for
the
garden
and
and
really
creating
lovely
robust
experiences
in
the
outdoor
spaces.
A
The
greater
des
moines
botanical
garden
really
became
what
began
to
become
what
it
is
today.
In
terms
of
becoming
its
own
501c3,
assuming
responsibility,
leadership,
operation
for
the
14
acre
site
in
2013
and
then
really
accomplishing
by
the
end
of
2015,
the
first
phase
of
the
original
vision,
2012
master
plan,
the
progress
has
continued
back
in
2019,
we
began
conversations
with
riverfront
development
authority
to
assume
responsibility
and
stewardship
for
the
robert
d
ray
asian
garden.
Those
those
stewardship
discussions
and
progress
continues
today
we're
very
very
close.
A
So
this
vision,
2012
plan
was
the
original
site
master
planner,
and
this
is
from
everything
that
we're
discussing
today
comes
from
this
vision.
2012
plan,
the
water
features
the
dry
meadow,
the
the
various
different
interactive
and
art
focal
points
throughout
the
garden
phase.
One
in
the
red
is
essentially
what's
been
completed.
That
is
the
garden
that
you
all
know
today.
A
Hopefully
you
know
well
and
if
you,
if
you
don't,
come
and
visit
us
and
and
we'll
be
happy
to
reintroduce
you,
the
future
phases
that
tan
section
is
what
we're
really
going
to
be
focusing
more
on
today.
That
is
the
intent
of
the
master
plan
refresh
again
taking
those
foundational
components
from
2012
and
making
them
relevant
and
intentional
based
on
where
we
are
as
a
community
today.
A
So
currently
I
mentioned
the
robert
d
asian
garden,
which
is
just
on
the
other
side
of
the
highway,
we're
working
very
intentionally
with
riverfront
development
authority
and
the
asian
alliance
to
assume
stewardship
of
that
garden.
We've
made
a
lot
of
progress
just
in
the
last
few
weeks
and
I'll
share
a
few
updates
with
you.
In
addition,
the
rouwan
reflection
garden
opened
in
august
of
2020.,
so
those
are
the
two
newest
components
of
the
botanical
garden.
A
Here
are
some
images,
the
roon
reflection
garden
with
the
water
feature
again
that
water
feature
was
built
into
the
2012
vision
plan,
excuse
me,
and
and
over
to
the
right,
the
the
really
lovely
pathway
that
surrounds
that.
So
you
can
see
through
those
trees
on
the
far
right
side
in
the
right
image,
the
the
water
feature.
It
really
gives
you
two
very
lovely
views
and
then
here
the
robert
d
ray
asian
garden
since
the
spring,
more
than
24
000
plants
have
been
added.
A
I
think
I
said
that
correctly
over
to
the
asian
garden,
and
just
last
week
the
newly
carved
finials
were
installed
and
they're
beautiful,
the
lions
will
be
the
newly
carved.
Lions
will
be
reinstalled
very
soon
and
then,
once
all
of
these
steps
are
taken,
we
will
move
toward
officially
student
stewardship
within
the
botanical
garden.
A
So,
as
I
mentioned,
we
are
actively
underway
with
our
founders
garden.
We
have,
as
I
mentioned,
a
number
of
different
committees
and
commissions
have
have
been
actively
engaged
in
this
process.
This
garden
is,
as
I
said,
paying
homage
to
native
iowa
dry
meadow.
This
is
transformed
from
the
edibles
garden
from
the
original
2012
plan,
which
is
being
kind
of
relocated
to
another
spot,
and
the
sculpture
from
the
vision
2012
plan
is
also
being
incorporated
into
this.
A
Excuse
me
here
are
some
first
to
be
seen
images
of
the
sculpture
that
is
being
handcrafted
in
spain.
Actually,
the
artist
is
novella.
We
are
doing
the
sculpture
in
partnership
with
the
des
moines
public
art
foundation,
and
this
sculpture
is
in
honor
of
tom
urban
and
all
mr
urban
did
to
bring
the
botanical
garden
into
reality.
D
A
Very
important
point
linda.
Thank
you.
Yes,
absolutely
the
the
private
funding
both
for
the
dry
meadow
garden
itself,
but
also
for
the
sculpture
completely
privately
funded.
In
addition,
the
once
the
sculpture
is
installed
in
the
botanical
garden,
it
will
be
transitioned
to
our
stewardship
as
well
so
again
through
that
private.
A
A
Addressing
some
of
the
the
necessary
replacement
and
improvement
that
everyone
understands
as
part
of
an
aging
facility-
and
I
know
that
that
is
something
that
this
council
and
other
committees
have
paid
important
attention
to,
and
we
are
absolutely
committed
to
making
sure
that
that's
done
so
the
amphitheater
again
this.
These
are
not
I'm
not
sharing
this.
A
A
The
willow
garden
is
another
component
again
really
creating
some
unique
and
fun
interactions
for
families
and
members
of
the
community.
We
hope
to
be
able
to,
for
instance,
create
some
immersive
play
opportunities
sand
play
areas,
but
also
making
sure
that
the
horticulture
and
the
native
willows
of
the
area
are
highlighted
throughout.
A
The
canopy
walk
is
something
that,
as
I've
had
these
conversations,
a
number
of
people
are
very
excited
about.
We
want
to
be
able
to
leverage
that
natural
topography
again
up
to
university
again.
This
is
something
that
is
being
designed
for
accessibility
for
all.
It
will
include
other
services
and
rest
stops
and
then
also
the
the
vision
is
to
incorporate
a
treehouse
for
community
meetings.
Perhaps
business
meetings
retreats
things
like
that
picnics
and
so
again,
here
are
some
images
that
are
inspiring
of
the
design
that
we
pulled
together.
A
And
so,
in
addition,
we
talk
about
the
the
other
kinds
of
updates
that
go
back
to
phase
one
so
doing
those
connections
to
the
riverfronts.
We've
got
a
little
updating
that
we
need
to
do.
We'd
like
to
refresh
our
entrance.
We
want
to
connect
east
to
the
pedestrian
bridge
and
again
going
back
to
accessibility,
improve
our
outdoor
garden
access
up
from
the
existing
areas
on
the
on
that
far
side
of
the
the
dome
so
cost
estimate.
This
is
schematic
design.
A
A
We
are
very
committed
to
making
sure
that
we
have
an
ongoing
opportunity
for
community
members
to
give
us
feedback
on
this.
On
this
master
plan
refresh,
we
would
very
much
like
to
as
a
component
of
this
stay
very
focused
on
our
mission,
but
also
build
sustainable
business
plans
to
implement
as
we
operationalize
this
plan.
A
A
We
are
also
very
committed
to
making
sure
that
we
are
building
public-private
partnerships
with
other
non-profits
with
other
public
entities
to
make
sure
that
we
are
not
only
sustaining
the
investments
that
we're
making,
but
that
we're
developing
something
that
truly
makes
a
difference
here
in
the
greater
des
moines
community.
That's
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
most
excited
about
being
a
part
of
this
organization
being
a
part
of
this
community.
A
That
is
what
drew
me
here
from
chicago,
is
building
the
greater
des
moines
botanical
garden,
to
be
a
true
community
serving
organization.
Yes,
what
we
do
is
all
about
plants.
What
we
do
is
about
exploring
explaining
and
celebrating
the
world
of
plants
we
know
and
we're
committed
to
making
certain
that
what
we
do
with
it
within
the
world
of
plants
makes
it
different
for
the
a
difference
for
the
people
here
in
the
community
and
for
those
that
are
needing
some
help
and
and
ways
that
we
can
make
a
difference
in.
A
D
B
A
Do
edible
garden
I
do
and-
and
you
know,
I
think,
one
of
the
ways
that
I
see
that
really
being
something
within
our
future
is
that
what
we
do
as
a
as
as
a
member
of
the
community
does
not
have
to
strictly
be
based
in
the
space,
this
14-acre
piece
of
land,
and
so
if
there
are
ways
that
we
can
partner
with
community
organizations
to
leverage
what
we
know,
what
we
do
well
right
and
to
make
that
difference
within
other
people's
land
within
other
people's
gardens.
Those
are
pardon
me.
A
F
D
A
So
it's,
I
think,
part
of
the
the
intentionality
that
we're
bringing
to
this
is
to
make
sure
that
we're
making
smart
decisions
that
those
investments
are
wise,
that
we're
not
investing
in
something
that
will
later
have
to
be
redone.
If
we
construct
something
you
know
in
in
a
in
a
different
phase
right
and
so
doing.
That
assessment,
I
think,
is,
is
one
of
the
things
that
we're
prioritizing
to
be
able
to
phase
this
out
well
and
responsibly.
D
Well
with
that.
Thank
you
very
much
for
being
here.
Thank
you.
Come
back
you're
doing
a
great
job.
There's
already
excitement
out
there.
Thank
you
and
council
if
you've
not
been
to
the
to
the
ruan
garden,
yet
please
come
down
there
and
when
we
get
ready
to
celebrate
with
the
with
the
new
sculpture,
we
want
to
be
sure
that
everybody
will
have
a
grand.
A
Opening
I
I
will
preemptively,
extend
an
invitation
to
each
of
you
now
but
you'll
hear
from
us
again
and
if
you
haven't
been
to
the
garden
in
a
while
every
thursday
night
we
have
music
in
the
garden
and
last
thursday
we
had
over
350
people
with
their
blankets
and
chairs
on
the
cane
garden.
It
was
fantastic.
D
D
H
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
fleet
strategies
that
we
have
for
reducing
emissions
as
we
go
through
this
presentation.
You'll
see
kind
of
about
two
overarching
approaches
that
we're
kind
of
looking
at
one
is
our
eevee
approach
and
the
other
one
is
the
biodiesel
approach
as
well,
to
kind
of
to
reduce
the
to
reduce
emissions.
H
H
H
H
Our
reduction
strategies,
like
I
had
mentioned
before,
is
to
electrify
as
many
sedans.
That's
what
our
current
the
current
market,
the
way
that
we
purchase
our
vehicles
through
the
evs
incentives
that
are
available,
and
we
are
currently
monitoring
all
the
different
availabilities
of
a
different
different
style,
so
suvs,
pickup
trucks
are
on
the
verge,
I
think
for
us
to
be
able
to
purchase.
The
only
problem
is,
is
that
right
now
is
during
the
procurement
process
that
we
go
through.
G
H
It's
based
off
of
the
the
work
that
the
fleet
manager,
brian
bennett
and
the
analysts
that
he
works
with
is
jay
carlson
a
budget
analyst
too,
and
they
review
the
annual
replacement
plan
that
the
department's
come
up
with
and
they
are
the
ones
that
kind
of
work
with
them
to
see.
If
there
needs
to
be
adjustment
on
on
for
vehicles,
whether
it's
from
a
sedan
to
suv
or.
E
H
H
H
I
K
H
Yeah,
when
we
take
into
all
the
different
components
of
the
life
cost
so
right
now
with
that
process,
it's
proven
kind
of
shown
that
it's
beneficial
for
us
for
not
just
the
sustainability
aspect
too.
So
and
then.
The
third
part
that
that
we
are
using
for
reduction
of
emissions
is
this
new
tech,
this
technology,
that
we're
going
to
be
incorporating
on
our
refuse
trucks,
with
conjunction
with
reg
and
optimus,
we'll
kind
of
get
into
the
details
of
that
in
a
later
slide.
H
J
H
Couldn't
do
that,
but
this
technology
allows
us
to
it's
kind
of
a
dual
fueling
system
which
allows
us
to
have
the
b5
component
as
well
as
the
b100,
and
then
it
starts
up
in
the
b5
fuel
and
as
it
warms
up,
it
allows
that
switch
when
it's
ready
to
that
b100.
So
it
still
allows
for
about
95
on
b100,
even
in
the
even
in
the
cold
month.
H
Okay
and
checking
the
brakes
and
tires
and
and
the
the
windshield
wiper
fluid.
So
the
other
part
of
it,
too
is
we're
working
with
facilities
and
making
sure
we
have
the
charging
infrastructure
in
place.
As
we
add,
these
vehicles
into
our
our
fleet
make
up
and
they've
been
a
great
help
in
trying
to
get.
I
H
The
fleet
manager
and
our
budget
analysts
work
with
all
the
departments
across
this
across
the
city
and
work
through
that
with
them
on
a
regular
basis.
They
have
an
annual
allocation
and
they
kind
of
look
at
their
makeup
of
their
department
and
what
needs
to
be
replaced
in
this
neck
over
the
next
two
years
to
two
to
five
years.
So
as
we
work
through
that
they
determine
the
needs
that
they
have
and
what
what's
available
to
move
on
from
that.
H
H
Well,
we
already
yeah,
we
already
have
plans.
Currently
we
have
four
evs
in
place
right
now,
with
card
code
enforcement,
we
have
another
14,
that's
coming
up
for
for
purchase,
11
of
which
are
for,
I
think,
it's
inspections
as
well,
and
then
we
have
three
going
for
police
vehicles
as
well.
I
think
it's
detectives
are
going
to
have
three
ev
vehicles
as
well
for
the
infrastructure
of
this.
H
Yeah,
I
can't
remember
it.
It
all
depends
on
what
you
have
available
at
the
particular
location,
so
for
or
stuff
that
would
be
like
in
our
parking
ramps.
We
already
kind
of
have
the
availability,
so
it
doesn't
quite
cost
as
much
to
get
the
infrastructure
in
there,
whereas
if
it's
a
brand
new
location
in
just
a
lot,
it
does
cost
a
little
bit
more
because
we
have
to
actually
run
the
lines.
So
it
varies
between
most
of
the
the
stations
that
we
buy
are
of
the
two
per
station.
H
H
L
H
I
K
H
And
so
I
think
our
attention
too
was
to
try
and
get
it
as
many
as
many
in
place
as
possible
right
so
that
we
can
be
ready
going
forward.
It
doesn't
need
to
be
one
for
one,
but
we
want
to
kind
of
have
as
much
availability
as
we
can,
because
we
know
that.
That's
not
just
from
a
car
standpoint,
but
we
see
the
horizon
of
the
wrestler.
I
J
G
G
So
if
we
have
a
fleet
of
vehicles,
I
mean
we
have
batteries
that
could
potentially
be
useful
going
in
the
other
direction
and-
and
I
don't
know
what
we
need
to
do
from
a
from
a
planning
perspective
and
and
if
what
exactly
the
cost
would
be.
But
I
would
be
curious
about
about
those
vehicle-to-grid
benefits
I
mean
at
times.
G
We
could
be
on
utility
rates
where,
where,
if
it's
a
peak
time,
we
could,
we
could
use
our
vehicles
to
avoid
higher
cost
electricity
and
then
charge
them
back
at
night
at
night.
Instead,
okay
and
there's
there's
savings
benefits
there,
but
that's
also
that's
also
going
to,
I
think,
be
part
of
some
of
the
long-term
utility
strategies
and
and
so,
if
we're
starting
to
invest
in
the
infrastructure,
we
should
be
thinking
about
the
full
range,
even
though
that's
sort
of
very
new
right
now.
But
I.
J
J
J
J
H
G
G
H
Yeah,
so
the
way
that
we've
approached
our
vehicle
replacement
is
we've
kind
of
worked
with
the
departments
to
say
you
have
got
a
dollar
allocation.
We
don't
specifically
replace
a
a
vehicle
right
as
soon
as
it
comes
to
our
our
normal
planned
time.
They
can
prioritize
if
something
is
six
years
and
and
is,
is
not
performing
what
the
way
it
needs
to.
We
will.
H
The
department
has
the
option
to
replace
that
if,
if
it
makes
sense,
if
the
maintenance
cost
of
it
outweighs
you
needing
to
replace
the
unit,
and
so
in
that
regard,
there
there's
going
to
be
some
vehicles
that
that
vary
on
the
very
high
end
and
some
that
might
go
a
year
or
two
earlier
than
we
originally
anticipated,
and
that
goes
with
with
the
pieces
of
equipment
as
well.
So.
H
B
B
Oh
yeah
yeah
you
like,
if
I
go
out
and
use
it
for
15
minutes
a
day
and
recharge
it.
It
drops
off
pretty
fast
until
you
get
a
full.
You
know
they
always
told
us
use
your
battery
until
it
goes
dead
the
first
time
and
then
fill
it
back
up
and
you
should
be
okay
because
the
memory
is
wiped
out.
Is
it
batteries
now?
Are
they
that
way
or
are
we
running
into
some
issues.
O
H
K
K
If
uncle
bennett
had
died
and
said,
there's
20
million-
and
you
can
only
use
it
for
this,
so
what
you'll
see
in
the
recommended
replacement
of
20
odd
vehicles
in
the
next
council
meeting,
the
average
life,
I
believe,
is
12
years
old
and
we're
over
a
hundred
thousand.
I
you
know
I
wouldn't
want
to
stand
here
and
say
I
can't
make
it
last
one
year,
but
we've
been
making
it
last
one
more
year,
several
years,
but
we
just
have
to
put
safe
and
reliable
within
our
passport.
So
there's
just
not
an
opportunity.
K
K
K
K
I
J
K
P
L
H
And
as
the
future
projected
replacements,
you
can
kind
of
see
there
the
different
years
that
we're
seeing
and
kind
of
who
owns
those
vehicles.
As
you
can
see,
we've
got
three
in
engine
engineering
that
we
anticipate
that
the
parks
and
then
the
housing
ones
that
they're
at
the
bottom
of
the
of
the
slide
would
be
replacing
with
evs
and
as
we
look
at
the
other
32,
it's
trying
to
pair
them
with
either
replacing
it
with
the
evs
or
hopefully
in
those
suv
pickups
when
they
are
available
as
evs
as
well.
K
H
The
other
component
of
this
is,
as
we
replace
heavy
duty
trucks
going
forward.
We
will
have
them
standard
with
the
dual
fuel
technology
installed,
so
we
don't
have
to
retrofit
the
nice
thing
about
that
is
then
it's
it's
not
having
to
do
that
additional
cost,
and
it's
within
within
the
specs
that
we
actually
get
the
vehicles.
H
H
H
K
Come
last
great
question,
great
question,
because
we
we
will
negotiate
a
few
pennies
per
gallon.
It's
not
going
to
be
huge.
The
other
thing
is
some
soft
costs.
I
would
have
to
stare
into
a
crystal
ball,
but
we
know
there's
other
local
agencies
ames
now
d.o.t
chicago
washington,
d.t
that
are
using
dual
field
technology,
there's
a
lot
of
runtime
data,
and
this
thing
the
data
is
collected
every
second
through
through
cell
phone
technologies.
K
K
There'll
be
there'll,
be
less
repair
of
those
filters,
so
I
just
can't
quite
put
that
dollar
on
it.
Yet
so
I'm
not
the
guest,
that's
the
crystal
ball
guess
would
be
if
we
do
a
capital
cost
investment
of
the
15
000.
I
believe
I
get
that
back
over
the
life
of
the
truck
just
in
reduced
maintenance.
So
but
there's
yeah,
there's.
E
G
J
H
C
H
H
To
kind
of
give
you
a
visual
of
how
the
dual
fuel
technology
works.
Basically
you
it
defaults
on
the
regular
fuel
fueling
system,
and
basically
you
have
that
user
interface.
That's
what
the
driver
actually
gets
to
see
their
their
use
of
the
vehicle
does
not
change
as
it
as
it
differentiates
between
the
two
different
fueling
types.
It
just
has
a
display
on
how
everything
is
working
with
that
you've
got
two
different
fuel
tanks
for
the
retrofit.
Usually
what
they
do
is
they
take
the
existing
tank
and
parcel
it
out.
H
So
you've
got
two
different
fills
within
that
same
same
tank
and
then,
basically,
there
is
a
lot
of
the
electronic
control
unit
that
talks
to
the
interface
as
well
as
the
remote
users
have
access
to
be
able
to
look
at
that.
That's
brian's
reference
to
on
the
phones
when
they
were
viewing
when
they
were
viewing
this
technology
from
the
drt.
I
believe
they
were
actually
watching
on
their
phones
and
they
said.
Oh,
it's
it's!
H
K
H
H
J
K
B
E
H
That
would
be
emissions
of
about
2,
600
tons
annually
and
all
of
those
were
on
that
so
between
to
get
us
to
about
400
tons
annually.
It's
the
two
different
pieces
here,
where,
if
we
the
dual
fuel
as
well
as
the
switch
that
we
do
to
the
b
b5
b20
during
the
war
months,
that
shift
those
doing
this
fuel
fuel
and
those
changes
would
get
us
to
be
that
400
each
year,
which
is
about
85
reduction.
D
G
Q
H
G
H
H
D
D
R
Linda
said,
I'm
scott
hutchins,
I'm
the
wra
director
and
I'm
here
to
give
you
a
short
update
on
the
wra.
I
haven't
been
in
front
of
you.
I
guess
I
did
this
last
april,
but
it
was
through
soon
so
here
to
give
you
an
update
on
the
wra
and
some
of
our
accomplishments
and
some
of
our
projects
going
forward.
R
So
here's
a
map
of
the
service
area,
as
you
know,
the
wa
serves
17
member
communities
and
we
actually
added
one
member
community
grimes.
We
signed
an
agreement
with
grimes
this
past
year
and
they
will
become
a
member
on
7-1
of
22.,
so
they
are
in
the
midst
of
building
a
connector
sewer
up
through
urbandale
and
johnston
and
urbandale,
and
to
get
up
to
their
old
treatment
plant
and
they're,
going
to
connect
to
us
and
they'll
be
a
participating
member
of
the
wra
on
july
1.
R
We've
had
an
initial
meeting
about
about
that,
the
operating
contractor
operating
contract
and
maybe
making
some
tweaks
to
it
so
more
to
come
on
that,
but,
as
it
says,
it
goes
through
2024
and
will
continue
on
year
to
year
unless
there's
a
reason
to
extend
it
or
terminate
it.
So
right
now
we'll
continue
on
with
that.
R
As
you
know,
the
wra
board
appoints
the
deputy
director.
I
oversee
the
day-to-day
operations
of
the
board
and
the
wa
is
a
standalone
entity.
It's
formed
by
a
2080
agreement.
We
do
our
own
contracting
and
have
our
own
board
of
directors,
which
was
21
members
and
all
the
employees
at
the
our
city
of
des
moines.
Public
works
department,
employees.
R
The
operating
contract,
the
city
of
des
moines,
provides
public
works
services,
administration
engineering,
like
we
said
we,
we
have
an
engineering
staff
out
there
about
three
or
four
engineers.
We
have
an
operating
comp.
We
have
an
operations
department,
we
also
have
a
maintenance
department.
We
have
a
land
application
where
they
take
the
biosolids
and
apply
it
to
farm
fields,
and
we
do
all
our
own
flow
monitoring
and
we
have
a
few
it
folks
out
there
as
well
engineering
provides
the
contract
administration.
Like
I
said
in
the
contract,
we
do
our
own
contracting.
R
Those
contracts
are
actually
bid
through
the
engineering
department,
but
they're
actually
signed
by
not
the
city
council,
but
the
wra
board,
approved
by
the
w
report.
But
engineering
department
provides
a
lot
of
that
contract
administration
as
bidding
services.
The
legal
department
provides
various
legal
services
for
us
reviews,
agreements
easements,
anything
legal
that
we
do.
We
have
some.
Sometimes
we
have
some
pretty
unusual
legal
agreements
that
takes
a
lot
of
time
and
we
appreciate
the
help
that
jeff
street
gives
to
us.
R
R
We'll
go
a
little
bit
through
the
wra
budget.
This
is
the
current
fiscal
year.
22
budget
we've
collected
we'll
collect
48.5
million
dollars
from
the
communities
and
that
is
spread
out
the
amount
each
community
pays
is
based
on
the
amount
of
flow
that
they
contribute
and
I
have
a
slide
that
will
show
that
we
have
a
net
operating
budget
of
16.8
million.
R
R
We've
borrowed
a
lot
of
money
for
cip
projects.
We
have
a
lot
of
ongoing
cip
projects
right
now.
The
debt
service,
for
that
this
current
fiscal
year
is
27
million
dollars,
and
then
we
have
4.7
million,
which
is
we
have
reserves
that
we
have
to
maintain
to
make
sure
we're
doing
what
we're
doing
to
have
money
in
place
to
do
the
business
we
have
hand.
Then
we
have
a
large
capital
improvement
plan
budget
of
55.8
million
dollars.
R
This
year
and
as
I
said
before,
the
three-year
it's
based
on
a
three-year
average
of
flow
right
now,
you
can
see
that's
the
pie
chart
for
all
the
communities,
the
17-member
communities
just
under
50,
and
I
would
imagine,
as
we
go
forward,
that
percentage
will
start
to
go
down
a
little
bit
based
on
a
couple
things.
One
we're
doing
a
lot
of
separation
projects
out
of
the
city
of
des
moines
collection
system,
so
that
storm
sewer
that
storm
are
that
used
to
come
through.
R
The
pipes
to
the
treatment
plant
are
now
being
separated
and
we're
just
going
to
get
sanitary
sewer
flow
in
one
of
those
areas
as
well
as
grimes,
but
not
on
this
list.
They
they'll
start
contributing
about
two
to
three
percent
of
the
flow
and
then,
as
the
suburbs
grow,
they
will
contribute
more
with
the
flow
as
well
so
des
moines
flow
will
slowly
go
down
over
time,
but
still
you're
going
to
be
the
lion's
share
des
moines
is
going
to
be
the
lion's
share
of
the
flow
to
the
treatment.
R
The
system
there's
40
that
are
used
for
billing
purposes,
because
these
flow
this
flow
is
determines
how
much
you
each
community
provides
to
their
budget.
So
right
now,
as
you
see,
des
moines
pays
about
fifty
percent
of
the
the
on
budget
for
the
wa
and
that's
how
it's
based
so
there's
flow
meters.
We
have
a
group
of
three
individuals
at
their
full-time
jobs
to
make
sure
that
these
meters
are
up
and
running
and
and
are
being
running
properly.
So
it's
all
based
on
flow
right
now.
It's
not
not
population.
R
R
It's
kind
of
you
know
it's
a
zero-sum
game:
that's
100
of
the
total
package
there.
So
if
you
get
your
percentage
down
as
small
as
you
can
you're
going
to
pay
less
and
everybody
does
their
own
thing,
you
kind
of
see
sometimes
some
shifts.
If
you
know
an
altoona,
does
some
separation
projects
they're
trying
to
go
down
a
little
bit
and
then
somebody
else
sees
like
well.
We
need
to
do
something
to
keep
our
our
costs
in
mind.
So
yeah
you'll
see
the
benefits
from
those
separation
projects.
E
B
R
Yeah
and
the
thing
with
this
is
this
is
a
three-year
average
and
the
reason
we've
done.
That
is
so
it
doesn't.
So
if
you
have
a
a
dry
year
or
a
wet
year,
it
doesn't
spike,
and
so
it's
more
of
an
even
if
you're
increasing
or
decreasing
it's
a
slower.
It
dampens
that
so,
but
it
should
have
an
impact
and-
and
I
could
put
the
clean
water
folks
and
see
if
we
can
try
to
come
up
with
maybe.
E
G
R
The
the
more
impact
that
we're
having
right
now
is
the
drought
because
we
have
ionized,
so
we
wear
right
now
we're
at
really
low
flows.
We
on
average,
like
today,
if
I
went
out
there
today,
it'd
be
about
35
million
gallons
right
now,
usually
we're
up
around
45.50
for
this
time
of
day,
so
the
drought
actually
is
having
more
effect
and
lower
the
flows
than
an
actual
pandemic.
So,
okay,
so
it's
interesting.
G
R
Just
dried
out,
oh
old
pipes,
are
leaky
so
you're,
not
getting
the
rain
filtering
through
the
ground
and
gooding
and
moving.
We
have
rain
events
and
then
also
the
combined
sewer
system.
We're
not
you
know
when
it
doesn't
rain.
We
don't
get
that
flow
down
there.
So
it's
just
a
bus
flow.
The
river
level
is
down
so
that
contributes
to
some
other
pipes
are
above
the
river
flow,
so
that
you
don't
have
that
pressure
of
the
the
pipe
getting
infiltration
or
inflow
into
the
sanitary
sewer
system.
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We're
trying
to
alleviate
that
by
doing
a
lot
of
lining
projects.
So
we've
done-
and
I
have
one
highlighted
on
the
wa
side,
where
we
line
to
make
sure
that
they're
not
leaky.
You
don't
want
that
ground
water
getting
in
and
treating
it
because
that's
unnecessary
water,
but
you
can
get
that
I
reduced
to
as
small
number
as
you
can.
You
don't
have
to
treat
that
water.
So
that's
what
we
try
to
do.
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So
let's
talk
about
a
couple
of
the
revenue
streams.
This
is
one
of
the
hallways
program.
That
picture
is
actually
those
those
tankers
are
over
a
big
tank
in
the
ground.
That's
right
by
our
digestive,
complex
and
fy
20.
We
collected
about
4.1
million
dollars,
21
right
to
date.
We
haven't
collected
and
got
all
the
bills
in
yet,
but
for
fiscal
year,
21
it's
about
3
million
and
we're
projecting
22
2.6
million,
which
that's
a
very
conservative
number,
we're
more
than
likely
going
to
be
up
between
the
three
and
four
million
dollars.
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But
we
want
to
be
conservative.
We
do
that
budgeting
because
we
never
know
if
something
can
happen,
and
then
those
tankers
go
away.
For
some
reason
we
just
don't
know
so
we
want
to
be
conservative,
we'd
rather
shoot
low
and
say
we're
gonna
get
four
million
dollars,
then
say
we're
gonna
get
four
million
and
we
don't
so,
and
those
trucks
come
from
all
over
the
state.
They
come
from
biodiesel.
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They
come
from
ae
dairy,
they
come
from
meat
processing
plants,
they
come
from
all
over
the
state
and
some
of
them
come
from
outside
the
state.
Here
too,
and
they
like
coming
here
because
they're
very
efficient,
we
have
three
lines
that
can
get
in.
They
can
get
out
very
quickly
and
it
provides
a
feedstock
for
us
in
our
rng
process.
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The
renewable
natural
gas
revenue
and
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
this
project
is
one
of
our
highlighted
projects.
But
it's
been
online
since
october,
and
for
fiscal
year
21
we
have
about
1.7
million
generated
and
we
have
a
long-term
contract
coming
up
in
this
fiscal
year
and
it's
projected
to
generate
about
500,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
this
project
a
little
bit
more
detail
here.
In
short,.
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R
Then
the
reason
why
is
cargill's
now,
if
you've
been
out
there
but
they're
tearing
down
the
silos
now,
both
sides
are
almost
all
torn
down,
but
the
pipe
is
no
longer
we're
not
selling
to
them
anymore.
We're
selling
actually
to
a
company
called
the
energy
authority
and
we're
injecting
renewable
natural
gas,
which
is
actual
natural
gas
quality,
just
the
same
quality
as
in
the
pipeline,
we're
injecting
that
now
we
did
a
financial
analysis.
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It
is
better
for
us
to
inject
all
the
gas
we
possibly
can
and
then
buy
back
whatever
we
need,
because
because
of
the
green
environmental
attributes,
the
green
credits,
those
are
where
we
get
the
most
bang
for
our
buck.
If
we,
if
we
turn
that
in
we
wouldn't
get
as
much
money,
so
we
did
a
financial
analysis
and
it's
better
to
inject
all
that
buy
back
what
we
need,
because
we
get
those
financial,
but
we
get
those
green
credits
when
we
sell
into
the
pipeline.
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So
the
cip
program,
a
little
bit
about
that
we
have
a
debt
limit
of
675
million
dollars
that
was
redone
in
that
outstanding
debt.
Our
current
outstanding
debt
is
about
406
million
dollars
and
we
have
a
six-year
cip
of
418
million
dollars
with
right.
Currently
we
have
55.8
million
for
the
fiscal
year,
22.
a
lot
of
big
projects,
and
I
have
some
of
those
highlighted
ongoing.
We
do
pay
down
that
debt
as
we
go,
so
we
we're
planning
never
to
reach
that
675
million
dollars
of
outstanding
debt.
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R
It
maxes
out
a
few
years
from
now
a
few
years,
probably
I
think
in
2030
it
maxes
out
and
starts
going
down
gradually,
because
we
have
a
couple
of
big
projects
that
are
still
in
and
then
one
thing
we
are
doing
is
we're
updating
our
facility
plan
because
we
have
to
stay
in
front
of
the
growth
of
the
metro
and
everything
else
going
on.
So
there's
going
to
be
additional
projects,
but
right
now
we're
going
to
maintain
being
below
that
675.
I
can
get
that
information
for
you,
okay,
but
we're.
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G
R
R
You
know
there's
projections
from
in
the
next
15
to
20
years
that
will
be
at
700
000,
there's
some
projections
that
make
me
a
little
nervous
that
they
could
be
at
a
million
depending
on
what
goes
on.
So
we
can't
step
back
on
our
laurels.
We
got
to
be
out
in
front
of
all
that.
So
that's
why
we're
doing
updating
our
facility
plan
to
make
sure
we're
on
top
of
this
and
then
the
wet
weather
capacity
needs.
As
you
know,
rain
patterns
change.
I
mean
right
now
we're
in
a
drought.
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To
keep
phosphorus
nitrogen
out
of
the
river,
so
we
were
proactive
on
that.
We
we
have
a
project
that
I
will
show
you
about
that,
and
then
we
have
we're
an
aging
facility.
The
new
plant
was
built
in
the
mid
80s
and
it's
over
30
years
old
and
it's
starting
to
wear
out
and
we
are
24
7
operation.
Things
are
always
pumping
through
there
all
hours
of
the
day
and
we
have
to
start
getting
those
replaced
and
keep
keep
up
with
that.
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Then
we
have
the
consent,
decree
and
long
term
control
plan
which
is
mandated
through
the
courts
that
we
have
to
complete
those
projects
and
then
we're
also
to
the
flood
integration
grant
program.
We're
flood
hardening
the
treatment
facility
with
the
facilities-
and
I
have
I'll
talk
about
that
in
a
little
bit
as
well.
So.
B
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Actually
have
people
coming
to
us
and
wanting
to
as
a
couple
I
actually
talked
with
the
mayor
of
almond
about
just
kind
of
spitballing
things
and
then
van
meter
might
be
a
community
that
might
eventually
want
to
come
on
because
so
there's
there's
other
communities
they
want
to
get
out
of
the
wastewater
treatment
business
and
bring
it
to
us.
So
it's
we'll
see
how
that
goes.
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R
Q
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R
D
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R
Here's
a
project
out
the
treatment
plan.
This
is
our
great
removal
improvement,
so
those
triangular
tanks
there
are
all
going
away,
and
this
is
just
a
project.
The
grip
is
just
the
sand
that
comes
through
the
sewer
system
and
it's
very
it
deteriorates
a
lot
of
our
piping
and
our
tanks,
and
it's
just
wore
out
and
we're
doing
a
new
project
there
at
about
12
and
a
half
million
dollars,
and
it
should
be
completed
sometime
next
year.
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This
is
a
project
that
I
think
you
guys
have
probably
seen
when
we
have
the
pipe
laying
on
the
ground
by
principal
park,
there's
a
big
black
pipe
that
went
all
the
way
along
there.
We
were
actually
lining
the
the
sewer
there,
the
interceptor
sewer
that
project
is
now
completed
and
that,
basically,
when
you
line
that
server
gives
us
a
whole
new
integrity,
a
whole
new
pipe
inside
there,
so
that
one
is
now
completed.
We
have
more
of
those
to
go
in
the
coming
years.
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This
is
some
of
the
flood
improvement
projects
that
we're
doing
right
now,
currently
the
box
to
the
right
of
that,
drawing
where
it
says
new
standby
power
building.
That's
where
all
our
electrical
feeds
will
come
in
from
the
trans,
from
the
substation
to
the
north
and
that's
to
get
it
up
above
so
we're
above
the
flood
level
in
case
the
levee
would
be
breached
and
then
we're
also
doing
it
around
some
other
transformers
in
our
main
pump
station
there
in
o5
we
have
a
couple
other
flood
projects
we're
going
to
raise
the
levy.
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That's
part
of
the
project
with
the
city
of
des
moines.
The
wra
has
actually
put
some
extra
money
in
to
raise
that
another
foot
and
then
also
we
have
an
effluent
pumping
pro
improvement
project,
which
is
about
20
million
dollars,
and
what
this
does
is
where
the
water
is
at
the
end
of
the
into
the
process,
instead
of
being
fed
by
gravity.
If
the
river's
high,
we
have
to
pump
it
up
over
the
levee
to
make
sure
we
can
get
it
out.
So
that's
that's
a
project
in
case
we
ever
have
high
flood
events.
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So
now
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
renewable
natural
gas
project.
This
has
been
a
long,
long
project,
long
incoming,
but
it's
been
a
very
successful
story
for
us.
This
is
a
project
that
takes
the
biogas
that
we
used
to
produce
that
we
produce
and
treats
it
and
gets
into
natural
gas
quality
and
reason.
What's
so
valuable
is
just
not
the
gas
itself,
it's
actually
the
renewable
green
credits
that
we
can
sell.
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That's
what's
really
valuable
in
this
because
being
created
from
a
wastewater
treatment
plant
reduces
our
emissions
and
our
energy
consumption,
and
we
ask
it's
about
19
million
dollar
project,
we're
hoping
that
that
pays
off
about
four
to
six
years.
We
started
it
up
in
october
of
2020
and
we
now
have
a
long-term
agreement
with
shale
energy
or
10-year
agreement,
starting
in
august
that
will
generate,
like
I
said
about
5
million
worth
of
revenue
a
year.
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R
Like
a
lot
it's
almost
daily,
I
mean
we
despite
we
had
a
funny
story
at
night.
We'd
have
people
call
the
fire
department,
because,
if
you're
driving
down
30,
it
looks
like
the
building's
on
fire,
because
it's
behind
the
building
we'd,
let
the
fire
department,
call
us
and
say:
hey
something's
burning
down,
there's
no,
always
just
a
big
flame.
So
yeah
we
used
to
flare
a
lot
of
it
because
we
produced
so
much
gas,
and
so
now
it's
hardly
ever
happening.
Just
don't
give
you
any
money.
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R
R
Another
project
is
our
phosphorus
recovery
project.
This
is
a
project
that
we
used
to
get.
We
get
struvited
our
pipes
caused
from
the
phosphorus
magnesium
and
ammonia
and
it
builds
up
inside
those
pipes
and
causes
us
corrosion,
and
we
have
to
spend
a
lot
of
money
to
get
that
out.
It's
also
part
of
the
the
nutrient
reduction
strategy
to
remove
phosphorus
from
our
waste
stream,
and
then
this
project's
gonna
cost
about
27.
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R
There's
going
to
be
a
revenue
stream,
but
not
as
much
of
revenue
stream
as
the
renewable
natural
gas,
but
there's
a
revenue
stream
and,
as
I
said,
this
is
a
proactive
approach
to
meeting
the
terms
of
the
iowa
nutrient
production
strategy
and
that's
just
a
picture
of
kind
of
some
of
the
equipment
that
we
could
possibly
use
clear
fire
project.
This
is
a
13
million
dollar
project.
Those
round
tanks
is
the
carolina.
Oh
carl,
did
you
have
a
question.
Q
R
R
So
it
creates
this
precipitates
out
through
the
process.
It
takes
a
from
a
side
stream
from
our
the
water
that
comes
off
our
our
rotary,
drum
thickeners
and
our
bioga
our
biosolids
process.
When
squeezes
the
water
out,
you
get
a
lot
of
water
that
has
phosphorus
and
ammonia
and
all
kinds
of
other
nutrients
in
it,
and
this
process
will
actually
participates
out
the
phosphorus
into
these
pelletized
forms.
Depending
on
what
kind
of
process
you
use
you
get
bigger
ones
or
smaller
ones,
and
that
becomes
a
fertilizer
that
people
use.
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R
This
is
a
new
entrance
site
security.
We
did
a
study
with
the
homeland
security
and
to
with
everything
that's
going
on
in
the
world
that
make
our
facility
more
secure,
we're
redoing
our
entrance.
As
you
can
see,
that's
our
our
main
entrance
is:
let's
see
that,
but
anyway,
the
main
entrance
is
up
to
the
top,
where
you
see
those
two
roads
coming
in
from
vandalia.
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That's
where
we
come
in
now,
it's
been
like
that
for
years
and
years,
but
we're
moving
it
down
where
the
ark
is
and
having
those
people
come
in
there.
So
if
anybody
comes
to
the
gate
and
isn't
supposed
to
be
here,
they
can
turn
around
and
go
out,
and
it's
just
a
more
secure
facility,
we'll
have
full-time
gate
guards,
24
7,
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
get
people
coming
in,
that
shouldn't,
be
there
and
that's
under
design
right
now.
This.
R
Is
a
big
project:
this
is
the
wrf
side.
Weather
treatment
project
takes
all
the
flow
from
the
east
side
of
the
vein
system.
The
four
mile
interceptor
the
side
interceptor
puts
it
through
this
facility
can
handle
up
to
100
million
gallons
a
day.
What
it
does
is
that
it's
a
quick
treatment
for
when
we
do
have
wet
weather
flows
high
flows,
so
you
can
take
the
load
off
the
main
treatment
plant,
so
we
can
continue
to
process
water
there.
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So
this
is
an
ongoing
project.
It's
in
the
design
phase
should
be
completed
in
fall
of
2025,
but
it's
a
big
project
a
little
bit
about
the
consent,
decree
and
long-term
control
plan.
This
is
a
joint
venture
between
the
city
of
des
moines
and
the
wra.
It
was
submitted
to
the
dnr
in
december
of
2000
2003.
It
was
a
framework
set
up
to
determine
how
to
reduce
the
number
of
combined
sewer
overflows
and
set
forth
a
phased
approach.
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Like
I
said
it
was
issued
in
2010
into
the
cent
decree
that
was
went
through
the
courts
it
provided
for
an
implementation
of
a
long-term
control
plan.
There
were
several
things
set
up
in
there
that
we
had
to
do.
Then
it
also
set
up
a
timeline
and
scheduled
for
completion
of
a
bunch
of
projects
taking
off
a
bunch
of
the
the
csos
from
20
down
to
one
which
would
be
at
the
combined
sewer
salt
separation
facility
down
at
the
treatment
plant.
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R
R
337
million
dollars
there,
so
I
think
omaha
is
over
a
billion
dollars.
I
think
st
louis
is
several
billions
of
dollars.
So
I
know
those
are
bigger
communities,
but
we've
got
by
you
know,
that's
a
lot
of
money,
but
for
everybody
else,
in
the
same
boat,
we've
got
off
fairly
cheap
and
been
able
to
do
that
over
time.
R
R
R
The
projects
that
are
the
wa
have
are
big
interceptor,
sewers
or
projects
that
were
negotiated
through
the
2080
agreement
like
the
what's
coming
up
is
the
ingersoll
run
project
that
was
negotiated
into
the
2080
agreement,
but
most
of
those
white
zeros
and
sometimes
some
of
those
years.
It
was
basically
the
separation
projects
and
all
those
kind
of
things.
Okay,.
R
So
this
is
a.
This
is
a
slide
that
hopefully
next
year,
we
can
have
it
updated,
but
it
shows
the
the
combined
sewer
system.
It
shows
the
three
that
are
still
currently
active,
the
20
second
high,
which
will
be
out
of
service
by
the
end
of
2023,
as
well
as
berlin,
the
same
time
frame
berlin
pump
station.
So
there's.
O
L
R
Right
there,
those
are
going
to
go
away
and
we'll
everything
is
going
to
come
down
to
the
cssf
down
at
the
treatment
plant
right
now,
there's
about
10
square
miles
and
we've
pretty
much
captured
all
the
flow
on
the
outskirts
of
the
that
map
and
we've
significantly
reduced
the
area
of
what
the
combined
source
system
is.
By
doing
those
separation
problem,
projects
built
like
the
ingersoll
run
or
the
near
the.
R
And
the
king
irving
and
all
those
so
some
of
the
one
of
the
main,
the
bigger
one,
that's
the
downtown
business
district
and
it's
too
costly
to
separate
down
there
with
all
the
infrastructure
and
all
the
buildings,
so
that
one
will
always
remain.
But
that's
why
we
have
the
cssf
and
the
new
main
outfall
and
the
ingersoll
run
out.
R
So
we
shall
run
out.
This
is
a
new
project.
This
is
going
to
be
very
disruptive
and
you're
going
to
hear
a
lot
about
this
project.
This
is
a
29
million
dollar
project.
It
eliminates
the
cso
at
20.
Second
high,
that's
clear
up
on
the
red
portion
of
that
drawing
and,
as
you
can
see,
we're
starting
basically
in
the
principal
parking
lot
there
coming
all
the
way
down.
Mlk
we're
going
to
be
in
the
north
lane
of
mlk,
we'll
we're
going
to
have
to
close
that
lane
and
divert
some
traffic
to
the
other
side.
R
So
it's
going
to
be
a
very
disruptive
project.
We've
already
got
out
in
front
with
the
des
moines
partnership
and
catch
des
moines
to
talk
to
them
about
any
events
that
they
haven't
and
working
with
the
city,
manager's
office
and
the
event
folks
there
to
make
sure
what
we
can
do
to
get
around.
This
is
a
nick
carter
project,
so
he's
we
got
the
right
guy
on
it
yeah,
and
so
it's
gonna
be
a
big
disruption,
big
disruption.
G
R
Yeah
we're
partnering
with
going
to
that
whole
area
getting
reconfigured.
So
actually,
that's
all
that
work
is
going
to
be
put
on
the
wa
project
des
moines
will
pay
for
we've
been
working
with
engineering
staff
here
our
engineering
staff
and
our
consultant
to
to
get
that
that
new
runway
configuration
through
there.
So
we
don't
have
to
tear
that
up
twice
we're
just
going
to
tear
it
up
once
when
we
go
through
there.
R
R
R
So
I
just
wanted
to
highlight
a
couple
of
a
few
of
our
major
accomplishments
in
the
2020
2021.
One,
of
course,
was
our
renewable
natural
gas
project
and
startup.
That's
been
very
significant
and
a
long
time
coming,
working
with
trying
to
get
enrolled
through
everything,
and
we
finally
have
that
completed.
So
that's
been
a
big
accomplishment
for
us.
R
On
april
6
of
2021,
we
were
actually
awarded
or
issued
a
patent
for
phosphorus
release
reactor
for
water
treatment.
That's
part
of
the
phosphorus
recovery
project-
this
is
a
we
have.
Patrick
brown
out
at
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
is
actually
a
phd
in
in
wastewater
engineering,
and
he
partnered
with
we
partnered
with
hdr
a
consultant
through
their
observations.
They
discovered
that
we
could
possibly
do
a
do
it
better
than
what
was
originally
going
to
be
designed,
and
this
will
reduce
the
size
of
the
tankage.
We
need
for
the
phosphorus
recovery
project.
R
R
On
may
5th,
we
had
the
first
ever
visit
by
epa
administrator,
michael
regan
of
the
bible
administration
came
out
and
visited
the
wastewater
treatment
plant
and
mayor
county
was
part
of
that.
We
also
had
pj
giavannetti
jonathan
gaino
and
some
others
from
the
city
were
there
to
see
that
we
also
entertained
a
visit
from
with
him
was
director
kayla
lyon,
from
the
from
the
idnr
director
and
also
region,
seven
ed
chu
from
from
the
epa
as
well,
and
we
got
to
showing
around.
R
R
And
just
this
june
we
were,
we
received
two
awards
from
nachwa.
One
is
the
the
gold
peak
performance
award.
This
is
an
award
for
complete
assistant,
permit
compliance.
We
got
the
gold
award
for
that,
so
that
makes
sure
that
we're
meeting
our
permit
levels
and
we're
awarded
by
and
it's
the
national
organization
of
clean
water
agencies
and
then
the
other
one
that
we
applied,
for,
which
is
the
gold
excellence
and
management
award.
R
That
is,
we
set
in
a
bunch
of
criteria
and
it's
based
upon
how
we
manage
the
facility
and
the
things
that
we
do
there's
a
few
things
we
can
work
on,
because
we're
going
to
apply
again
and
try
and
get
the
platinum
award.
The
gold
reward
is
only
issued
last
year.
I
think
to
five
other
agencies,
so
we're
we're
proud
of
it.
As
you
know,
I
can
stand
up
here
and
talk
about
this,
but
really
the
credit
needs
to
go
to
the
employees
out
there
and
what
they
do.
R
They're
there
day
in
day
out,
we
have
engineering
staff
and
I.t
staff
on
maintenance.
Those
guys
are
the
ones
that
come
in
when
middle
of
the
night.
We
had
just
not
too
long
ago.
We
had
some
some
power
go
down
to
our
control
system.
They
came
in
troubleshoot
it
when
it
rains
they're
out
there.
The
pump
station
cruise
that
was
provided
by
the
city
of
des
moines
as
well.
R
R
D
D
R
Right
now,
it's
probably
not
the
best
at
the
time,
because
we
have
so
many
construction
projects.
You
can't.
We
can't
get
you
to
see
everything
you
need
to
see.
Okay,
so
we're
probably
maybe
a
year
out
before
we
get
some
of
those
projects
buttoned
up,
because
I'd
like
to
show
you
the
the
main
pump
station
right
now
we
have
that
all
tore
up
around
there
because
we're
doing
the
flood
hardening
project
and
the
grid
project
will
be
done
at
that
time.
You
just
get
a
seymour
if
you,
if
you
waited
you're,
welcome
to
come
out.
L
D
B
Linda,
I
do
have
one
comment
to
make.
I
was
on
that
on
a
tour
different
with
another
council
member,
okay
and-
and
you
know,
scott
went
through
the
three
or
four
stages
of
filtering
and
it
starts
with
almost
jet
black
and
gets
to
clear
and
then
the
other
council
member
made
the
comment:
can
we
drink
that
water
and
I
saw
a
terrified
look
on
scott's
face,
so
I
just
tried
to
tell
the
other
council
member.
R
D
C
J
Just
a
just
a
quick
statement,
you
know
I've
been
able
to
serve
on
your
board,
for
I
believe
three
years
and
the
professionalism
that
you
and
your
staff
and
and
have
all
the
communities
together
and
the
way
you
conduct
the
meetings
and
the
partnership
that
we
have
should
should
be
looked
at
in
other
in
other
ways
that
we
do
things
in
our
region,
so
hats
off
to
you
and
you're
bored
in
all
of
us
that
participate,
but
especially
you
and
your
leadership.
So
we
thank
you,
scott
thanks,
jim.
I
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
T
Well,
this
is
an
opportunity
to
really
actually
get
more
input
from
the
council
on
preferences
and
narrow
the
conversation
somewhat
in
what
our
opportunities
are
and
going
through.
The
information
provided
by
legal.
There
was
research
done
on
other
communities
that
you'll
see
noted
in
there,
obviously
going
outside
of
the
state
of
iowa,
knowing
that
it's
more
of
an
issue
with
urban
areas
and
so
there's
some
examples
from
omaha
and
some
other
larger
communities
in
the
midwest.
T
T
We
have
contracts
both
with
our
police
department,
for
when
maybe
a
vehicle
accident
occurs
and
we
need
the
vehicle's
tote
that
is
through
a
city
procurement
process,
as
well
as
community
development,
utilizes
towing
for
removal
of
vehicles,
junk
vehicles,
things
of
that
nature
that
need
to
be
removed.
Those
are
a
different
topic
from
what
this
was
requested.
This
is
private
property.
T
This
is
a
question
about
when
residents
and
visitors
come
to
our
community
and
maybe
parking
in
a
private
parking
lot
or
spaces
private
property
and
may
have
mistakenly
parked
there
for
whatever
reason
find
themselves
being
towed,
and
so
the
question
has
arisen.
What
what?
If
anything,
could
the
city
do
to
try
and
regulate
that
type
of
activity?.
T
The
advice
and
great
research
that
has
been
put
together
by
the
legal
department
that
will
narrowly
give
you
some
some
opportunity
to
think
about
policies
that
do
not
interfere
with
what
state
law
already
is
and
allows
for
and
and
so
fairly
quickly.
Here,
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
jeff,
but
but
what
we've
got
is
a
situation
where
and
correct
me.
T
Analysis
that
would
need
to
be
done
to
see
if
the
city
can
even
come
in
with
its
own
laws
as
long
as
they
don't
conflict
with
the
existing
state
laws.
There's
a
couple
different
approaches
to
that.
We
can
get
into
that
if
necessary,
but
the
key
here
is:
we
can't
do
anything
that
is
contrary
to
what's
already
state
law
in
that
24-hour.
T
So
it
looks
like
a
narrow
opportunity
for
the
city
to
do
something
inside
of
that
24-hour
period
that
would
potentially,
in
my
guidance
or
recommendation,
allow
for
something
along
the
signage
dealing
with
the
signage
that
that
would
give
more
indication
that
that
there's
a
potential
for
do
the
city
code,
a
private
towing
situation
that
that's
well
known
or
well
signed.
That
would
be
the
one
opportunity
that
is
cleanest
for
the
city.
If
you
desire
to
add
more.
G
I
mean,
I
think,
there's
at
least
one
other
opportunity,
because
I
we're
talking
about
the
state.
The
state
statute
only
deals
with
abandoned
vehicles
and
it
designates
something
as
an
abandoned
vehicle
after
24
hours,
so
we
can't
arguably
were
pre-empted
from
doing
anything
after
that
24-hour
period,
but,
for
example,
if
someone
goes
out
you
know
they
park
there
an
hour
ago,
they're
in
a
building
next
door.
Someone
tells
them
hey,
I
think
your
car's
being
towed.
They
go
out
there
at
that
time.
That's
clearly
not
an
abandoned
vehicle.
It's
not
24
hours.
G
U
I
we
feel
real
strongly
that
we've
got
a
lot
more
power
on
public
property
and
on
public
right
of
way
to
regulate
towing,
but
when
you
get
into
private
property
and
you've
got
people
that
are
on
other
people's
private
property,
that's
probably
gonna,
there's
at
least
an
argument
that
that's
a
civil
relationship
and
364.1
says
cities.
Cardiff,
home
rule
on
in
iowa
is
not
regulating
civil
relationships.
So
that's
going
to
be
the
concern
there.
G
U
G
D
J
U
L
U
There
24
hours
and
if
it's
not
there
24
hours,
then
you
get
into
a
balancing
test
and
potentially
someone
who
says
well
gee
I
ate
at
the
restaurant
and
then
I
just
went
to
walk
around
the
block.
You
know
to
use
your
particular
business
as
an
example
I
ate
the
restaurant
I
walked
around.
The
block
came
back,
my
car's
gone.
U
J
And
if
someone
parks
there
and
they're
not
you
know,
let's
say
they
they
park
in
the
lot
just
south
of
wells,
fargo,
arena
and
they're
going
up
to
to
watch
basketball
game
and
it
says
clearly
you
cannot
park
here.
This
is
for
the
employees
for
the
third
floor
and
someone
just
parks
their
car
there
and
gets
out,
and
everyone
knows
that
they're
going
up
to
wells,
fargo
and
they're,
not
an
employee
there.
I
see
they
still
have
to
wait.
24
hours
to
grow.
U
State
law
is
24
hours
on
an
abandoned
vehicle
and
the
the
difference
there
is.
We
couldn't,
for
example,
say
the
city
council
couldn't,
for
example,
say
no
toes
for
48
hours,
because
the
state
statute
says
after
24
hours
command
vehicle
property
owner
can
tell
it
so
then
we'd
be
prohibiting
something
that
the
legislature
is
offering.
I
said
that
I,
I
guess.
J
J
Q
Didn't
know
we're
even
talking
about,
I
agree,
yeah.
Well,
I
think
what
what
josh
was
asking
about
is
if,
if,
if
a
car
is
on
on
the,
I
don't
know,
if
that's
called
a
flatbed
or
whatever
and
someone
says
hey,
they
gotta
tell
me
well,
the
driver
may
not
be
able
to
accept
papers,
I
mean
they
did
something.
Q
G
Well,
there
are
two
pieces
one
is
is
I
think
we
have
the
ability
to
ensure
that
if
there
is
going
to
be
patrolling
for
that
immediate
violation
that
we
can
require
signage
to
be
posted,
I
think
a
lot
of
folks
already
have
that
signage
posted.
But
I
think
there's
some
that
at
least
as
it's
been
reported.
There
is
not
signage
that
it
is
clear
for
places
where
there
is
towing
and
that
leads
to
people
who
who
come
and
have
a
bad
experience
because
they
park
somewhere.
G
They
don't
think
it's
a
problem
to
park
there,
because
they
don't
see
any.
You
know
no
parking
violators
will
be
towed
because
that's
what
they're
looking
for
like
no
problem
or
they're,
not
looking
for
anything
but
some
are
not
looking
for
anything
right.
Some
don't
care,
but
I
think
the
people
who
have
the
bad
experience
and
the
ones
who
write
and
are
looking
for
the
signage
and
I
think
it's
reasonable
to
require
signage.
G
If
it's
going
to
be
patrolled,
if
there's
someone
driving
around
and
it's
going
to
pull
that
out
of
a
lot
like
that's
that's
step,
one
that
we
want
to
talk
signage,
and
I
think
that
piece
is
pretty
clear-cut,
that
we
can
do
that
step
two
is
trying.
I
think
we
should
be
trying
to
figure
out,
because
I've
heard
from
a
number
of
folks
who
thought
thought
that
they
could
park
where
they
did
and
then
they're
at
a
bar
or
restaurant
nearby
and
someone
tells
them
hey.
I
think
your
car
is
being
towed.
G
G
T
D
I
don't
know
why
we
would
spend
any
time
worrying
about
personal
property
rights,
don't
park
there,
don't
don't
just
assume
that
you
can
go
and
park
wherever
you
want.
I
think
most
of
us
are
reasonable
and
know
that
when
I
go
to
wells
fargo
arena,
I
need
to
park
at
wells
fargo
or
find
a
place
on
the
street.
D
You
know
or
someplace
I
don't
just
assume
is
like
oh
well,
there's
a
parking
space
I
can
park
there.
I
don't
know
why
we
would
put
the
burden
on
a
private
property
owner
to
have
to
sign
something.
You
know
I
remember
when
we
were
on
board
of
adjustment
bill.
We
had
landowners
that
would
come
in,
you
know
and
people
park
in
their
lots
and
they
could
trash
in
garbage
every
single
day.
They
had
to
go
out
and
clean
up
the
garbage,
because
the
people
made
a
prop
it.
You
know
left
their
garbage
there.
D
I
can
tell
you
that
I
have
been
involved
with
logan
park
apartments,
which
is
a
hud
property
and
those
folks.
When
I
sit
down
and
visit
with
them,
they
get
the
ladies
that
are
there
generally
they're,
elderly
or
disabled.
They
are
afraid
to
go.
They
were
afraid
to
go
out
into
their
parking
lot,
because
people
were
coming
in
there.
They
were
doing
things
that
they
should
not
have
been
doing.
D
They
had
no
business
being
there,
they
didn't
live
in
the
apartment,
but
it
was
just
a
convenient
place
to
come
and
make
their
drug
deal
or
do
whatever
things
they
were
going
to
do.
They
were
harassing
the
residents
who
lived
there
and
through
the
multi-crime
program
with
the
police,
they
have
a
private,
towing
contractor
that
comes
in
and
patrols
that
or
if
there's
an
issue
the
residents
can
call
and
they
will
come
and
tow
that
car
that
is
they're
right.
D
That
is,
that
is,
that
property
owner
who
manages
that
property
it's
their
right
to
have
that
tow
company
there
and
it
doesn't
matter
whether
it's
signed
or
not.
If
you're
not
doing
business
there,
you
shouldn't
be
there
and
I'm
not
going
to
support
anything
that
would
infringe
on
on
personal
property
rights.
I've
said
that
before
I'm
very
very
adamant
that
we
try
to
impede
in
on
personal
property
rights,
and
we
need
to
stay
out
of
it,
we
can
deal
with
anything
in
the
city.
That's
our
public
right
away,
but
personal
property
rights.
J
What
what
type
of
signage
are
you
I
mean
like?
Do
we
have?
We
already
have
a
signing.
I
think
I
think
bill
can
talk
about
the
signing
signs,
ordinance
that
we
we
took
on
seven
years
ago.
That
you
know
has
changed
all
of
our.
So
what
are
we
asking
to
put
like
a
four
by
four
sign
up
that
says
your
car
is
going
to
be
violated
or
what
I
mean.
E
J
Looking
for
space,
but
they
don't
have
to
pay
right.
That
is
the
problem
that
we're
all
talking
about.
So
people
are
looking
for
space
that
they're
not
paying
at
the
meters.
Okay,
because
we
have
plenty
of
parking
in
the
garages
and
at
the
meters
downtown,
but
people
don't
want
to
pay
for
the
beaters
or
parking
they
figure.
Oh
I'm
just
gonna
run
in
here
I'm
gonna
park
here,
real
quick
and
you
know
what.
Hopefully
nobody
sees
me
and
hopefully
I'm
not
in
any
one
spot
and
then
when
they
get
caught,
then
it's
like.
J
Well
because
you
didn't
follow
the
rules
just
like
other
rules
that
we
have
in
place
and
there's
consequences
for
those
rules,
and
you
know
if
you
know,
I
think,
there's
a
policy
josh
that
if
you
go
out
and
your
car's
on
the
on
the
on
the
truck,
I
believe
you
can
pay
at
half
the
fee
and
they'll
drop
your
car
right
there.
I
believe,
I'm
not
sure,
but
I
think
that's
a
possibility
and
I
think
that's
fair,
because
they've
already
got
it
hooked
up.
J
They've
already
got
the
thing
up
on
the
thing,
so
he's
working,
you
know
that
whoever's
towing
it,
whether
it
be
proto
or
whether
it
be
gns
or
whether
it
be
all
these
other
towing
companies,
that
these
private
property
owners
are
paying
they're
calling
to
get
their
cars
out
of
the
their
lots.
So
people
that
are
paying
rent
and
are
their
customers
can
park
there.
J
J
T
Us
for
looking
into
this,
we
could
we
could
research
by
asking
the
four
or
five
major
towing
what
their
customer
service
level
is
right
in
response
to.
They
have
possession
of
the
vehicle,
but
it's
still
on
site
what
they
would
do
with
that
situation,
because
there
may
be
an
opportunity
to
ask
but
not
regulate
a
nominal
fee
that
is,
and.
E
T
J
E
G
C
J
N
N
J
N
The
majority
of
the
complaints
that
you
probably
received
is
from
one
towing
company
right
he's
sitting
right
here.
I
think
he
would
be
more
willing
to
sit
down
with
a
few
of
us
and
say
this
is
how
I
do
it.
This
is
what
we
do,
and
this
is
why
I
do
so.
Let's,
let's
take
that
approach
scott,
can
we
do
that?
Can
we
set
up
a
small
group
of
us
and
do
that?
Yeah.
T
T
J
J
D
D
E
Q
Yes,
so
so
I
live
in
the
east,
village
and
I've
had
friends,
complain
about
being
towed
in
the
east
village
and
I
walked
over
to
the
lots
and
the
signs
are
there.
I
I've
not
found
a
lot
that
there's
not
signs
in
now.
Is
there
a
sign
in
front
of
every
stall?
No,
but
you
know
I
don't
know
what
the
they're
not
really
hidden
signs.
I
didn't
feel
so
I
said.
Oh
I'm,
sorry,
you
got
towed.
I
think
one
thing
if
we
do
get
together
and
talk
with
some
of
the
private
towing
companies.
Q
Unless
they're
only
1.00
point
well
taken,
someone
else
can
go,
help
get
their
car
but
anyway,
so
it's
the
the
hours
that
are
available
to
get
their
vehicle
and
is
there
like
a
minimum?
So
you
get
the
car
towed
to
a
lot,
and
you
know
this.
Some
people
think
well.
It
was
only
there
an
hour.
Well,
it
is
an
hour
a
day.
You
know
so
okay,
but
but
it
still
costs
money
to
get
it
there,
and
so,
just
like
you
know,
running
running
a
vehicle.
D
N
N
J
E
J
And
that's
a
private
pot
and
so
people
are
parking,
their
parking
there
and
they're
getting
towed,
and
so
we
have
a
parking
garage.
So
I
don't
know
nelson.
I
don't
I
don't
know
if
there's
additional
parking,
maybe
in
that
garage
that
we
can
put
some
additional
signage
up.
That
says
you
know
this.
This
is
where
you
need
to
park.
You
know,
there's
there's
this
garage,
there's
a
garage
on
sixth
and
grand.
Then
we
have
another
garage.
I
mean
they're
they're
garages,
plus
all
the
street
parking
in
the
east
village.
J
They
have
different
parking
meters
to
where
you
know,
it'll
be
a
little
bit
easier
to
pay
for
the
parking
meters,
because
you'll
be
able
to
have
a
phone
app
in
the
next
year,
hopefully
in
certain
areas
to
where
you'll
be
able
to
extend
and
you'll,
be
able
to
do
things
like
that
and
hopefully
find
parking
spots
with
that
with
that
app,
it
will
make
things
much
much
easier.
So
we'll
see
how
that
goes.
F
Presenting
yep
lisa
krabs
with
neighborhood
services.
Thank
you.
Yes,
you
ready
for
me
to
get
started.
Yes,
ma'am!
Please!
Okay!
Okay,
great!
Thank
you!
Like
I
said,
I'm
lisa
krabs,
I'm
the
federal
funds
administrator.
I
work
with
the
neighborhood
services
department,
so
a
while
back
probably
late.
Last
year,
a
few
staff
decided
that
it'd
probably
be
a
good
idea
since
there's
so
much
copic
response
funding
coming
through
that
we
give
you
a
quarterly
update
with
the
focus
on
a
program.
F
So
that's
why
we're
here
today
last
quarter
we
focused
on
the
economic
development
programs,
so
the
small
business
relief
and
dine
out
des
moines,
and
so
today
we're
going
to
focus
on
housing
so,
like
I
said,
I'm
lisa
and
then
also
I'll
have
pam
carmichael
from
homie
talking
a
little
bit
too
and
ann
bacon
from
impact
community
action.
So
they're
really
kind
of
two
of
our
major
partners
that
have
been
actually
on
the
ground
floor.
F
Working
and
helping
our
families
facilitate
these
programs
and
just
an
introduction
to
how
how
we're
gonna
do
this
presentation
I'll
touch
on
a
couple
slides
that
we
had
in
the
last
quarterly
work
session.
Just
to
kind
of
reorient
all
of
us
as
to
why
we're
here
so
covering
the
programs
at
a
high
level,
the
timeline
at
a
high
level,
financial
information
and
then
again
the
focus
on
housing
when
I'll
hand
it
off
to
pam
and
anne.
F
So
that's
that's
a
little
bit
separate,
but
we've
had
two
rounds
for
the
treasury,
emergency
rental
assistance
program
and
then,
finally,
with
the
american
rescue
plan,
we've
also
been
allocated
a
separate
home
funds,
and
so
home
funds
are
going
to
be
kind
of
similar
to
our
emergency
solutions
grant
and
that
it's
really
housing
related
for
homelessness,
type
or
at-risk
homeless
programs.
And
that's
the
only
program
of
this
whole
timeline
of
all
the
different
groups
that
we've
been
allocated
in
funding
rounds.
F
F
J
F
E
E
F
So
this
slide
here
covers
kind
of
the
financial
information.
If
you
remember
the
pride
chart
from
last
time.
The
main
difference
here
is
that
we
just
have
a
bigger
slice
on
our
left
chart
for
the
emergency
rental
assistance
program
through
the
treasury
again
separate
from
any
infrastructure
city
management
office,
funding
that
we're
talking
about
at
a
different
time.
This
is
specifically
emergency
rental
assistance,
so
you'll
see
that's
the
biggest
portion,
it's
about
46
and
then
our
next
largest
funding
source
was
the
cdbg
and
again
that's
that
wide
scope
of
programs.
F
We
can
use
it
for
if
you
look
at
the
right
pie
chart.
This
is
just
a
breakdown
of
how
we've
used
or
allocated
the
funds,
and
this
does
include
the
home
funds,
because
we
have
to
use
it
for
housing.
But
what
you'll
see
is
we've
really
dedicated
a
significant
portion,
almost
70
just
to
housing,
assistance.
F
J
U
F
P
E
J
F
F
So
what
we
have
here,
this
is
just
kind
of
I'll
call
this
like
a
traditional,
affordable
housing
spectrum.
Okay.
So
the
thing
to
note
here
is:
I'm
gonna
go
through
some
numbers
and
then
I'll
summarize
those
numbers,
so
it's
a
little
easier
to
to
absorb.
But
what
this
is,
this
busy
graphic
is
kind
of
the
traditional
when
we
talk
about
affordable
housing
programs,
the
realms
and
the
sections
of
which
they
occur,
but
again
with
this
emergency
funding.
F
One
thing
to
note
is
this:
spectrum
is
getting
really
blurry
and
the
people
who
were
assisting
may
have
actually
at
one
point,
been
a
homeownership
unit
at
this
80
percent
ami,
but
now
they're
at
zero
percent.
So
take
it
with
a
grain
of
salt,
I'm
just
a
visual
to
kind
of
understand
the
concepts,
but
again
with
emergency
situation.
It
could
be
all
over
the
place.
F
So
what
it's
showing
here
is
that
our
traditional
homelessness
or
at-risk
programs,
or
at
risk
of
homelessness
programs
fall
at
the
lowest
level
of
the
income
scale,
which
makes
sense
and
so
for
a
family
of
three
right.
Now
it's
about
25,
000
or
less
is
kind
of
what
that
30
percent
threshold
means
and
within
that
group
we've
assisted
238
households
with
homelessness
prevention,
37
households
with
rapid
rehousing
over
2000
households
with
emergency
shelter,
and
that
includes
the
motel
and
hotel
vouchers
and
then
also
just
just
to
kick
this.
F
In
there,
the
des
moines
municipal
housing
agency
has
received
120
emergency
vouchers.
So
I
won't
really
cover
that
today.
But
that's
you
know
also
to
give
you
a
sense
of
where
that
falls
and
moving
forward.
The
traditional
kind
of
rental
scale
that
we
look
at
is
below
60
of
the
area
meeting
income
and
that's
falling
about
less
than
50
000
per
year
for
a
three-person
household,
and
with
that
that's
going
to
be
mostly
our
emergency
rental
assistance
program
with
the
treasury
funds.
That's
about
3,
200
households
assisted
as
of
june
30th.
F
F
Q
Q
F
Yes-
and
I
think
ian
probably
can
speak
to
that
a
little
bit
more
when
it
comes
to
her
section,
that
is
probably
the
difference.
So
here
I
can
go
to
the
next
slide.
Actually,
when
we
talk
about
these
numbers,
there's
there's
the
city
of
des
moines
allocation
that
came
from
the
government
right,
the
federal
government.
So
we
have
the
treasury
funds,
the
hud
funds,
and
these
are
the
numbers
we've
served
in
total.
F
So
really,
these
numbers
are
just
des
moines
residents
unduplicated,
but
I
would
conservatively
estimate
another
20
higher
than
this
would
be
other
people
served
by
other
programs,
and
so
that's
where
the
state
has
funding-
and
I
think
that's
what
kind
of
we're
alluding
to
is
that
there's
statewide
funding
and
it's
maybe
not
getting
out
as
fast
as
the
programs
that
we're
administering
locally,
but
but
we
are
taking
advantage
of
other
other
programs.
Okay,
I
promise
I'll
tell
you
a
lot
about
that.
C
V
I'd
like
to
take
just
a
minute,
if
I
could
introduce
a
couple
people,
jan
zalecki
has
been
running
our
homeless
prevention
program
she's
in
charge
of
her
counseling
services.
She
was
here
a
whole
three
months
before
she
jumped
into
the
fire.
She's
done
an
excellent
job
and
then
tony
montgomery
is
the
new
executive
director
of
home,
incorporated.
V
I
think
most
people
know
that
I'm
getting
ready
to
retire,
probably
around
september,
so
I
just
wanted
you
to
know
and
hopefully
we'll
be
able
to
introduce
him
to
all
of
you.
But
I
want
to
thank
you
for
the
opportunity
today
to
talk
about
this
program.
I
do
have
to
tell
you
that
we
are
using
only
the
emergency
solutions
grant
money.
That's
the
money
that
funneled
from
hud
down
to.
Usually
this
would
be
money
that
would
be
go
through
the
coc
continuum
of
care.
V
V
V
We
started
off
first
with
the
ihf
funds,
because
those
are
the
funds
that
we
had
and
then
the
city
of
des
moines
funds
were
used
primarily
for
the
city
of
des
moines,
but
I
do
need
to
let
you
know
that
even
of
the
eiffel
funds
that
we
used
a
good
portion,
I
would
say,
probably
more
than
60
percent
of
those
funds
were
spent
in
the
city
of
des
moines,
because
that's
where
we
have
been
seeing
the
greatest
need,
we
tried
to
respond
very
quickly
to
this.
We
do
esg.
V
V
We
also
have
both
experience
with
landlords
and
tenants.
We
found
that
to
be
very
important
to
the
work
that
we
were
doing
in
homeless.
Prevention,
not
only
contacting
landlords
and
making
sure
that
the
landlords
knew
that
if
their
tenants
were
behind,
they
could
come
to
us
and
we
could
assist
them
and
also
a
lot
of
tenants
already
knew
who
we
were
so
those
were
the
pieces,
the
successes
that
we
think
we
had
we
had.
V
V
V
We
had
issues
with,
I
think,
first
off
trying
to
figure
out
how
we're
going
to
deal
with
all
the
people
that
came
through
because
we
counseled
everyone
that
came
that
walked
through
the
door
that
walked.
That
called
us,
because
we
did
all
of
this
virtually
at
the
time
that
we
took
over
the
money.
Our
office
was
closed.
Our
office
just
opened
last
week,
and
so
we
were
working
remotely
from
home
during
this
entire
time.
V
We
found,
I
think,
some
of
the
aha
moments
for
me
in
regard
to
this
is
we
had
people
calling
us
that
had
never
asked
for
assistance
ever
and
were
just
you
know
they
were
really
out
of
their
depth.
They
didn't
know
the
human
service
system.
They
did
not
know
anything
about
these.
They.
You
know
when
you
start
asking
people
for
some
of
this
information.
V
V
We
spent.
We
did
have
a
grant
that
we're
still
overseeing.
That
came
through
if
I've
had
two
chunks
of
money,
one
was
for
homeless
prevention.
The
other
was
for
supportive
housing.
So
we
are
actually
the
organization
that
ended
up
writing
the
grant,
which
was
homemade.
We
will
also
administer
their
funds
for
at
least
another
year,
because
they'll
be
able
to
use
their
funds,
probably
up
until
july
30
of
2022,
so
we'll
be
working
with
them.
V
The
takeaways
I
want
the
council
to
know
is
that
there
are
agencies
that
are
willing
to
use
the
federal
funds,
but
the
administration
in
funding
between
like
an
ifa
and
a
city,
are
different.
When
the
federal
funds
flow
through
the
process
to
organizations
such
as
city
or
ifa,
they
make
their
own,
they
do
their
own
administrative
rules.
V
I
think
that
going
forward
in
the
future,
it
would
behoove
everyone
if
we
tried
to
get
a
little
bit
on
the
same
page,
not
only
for
the
nonprofits
but
also
for
the
clients.
At
certain
points,
the
paperwork
is
different.
The
fund,
the
method
of
reimbursement,
is
different.
All
of
that
type
of
thing,
I
remember
the
first
week
that
we
received
money
we
had
to
put
it
was
over.
80
000,
the
first
round
of
checks
we
have
we
had
to
as
a
part
of
this,
also
keep
in
mind
that
these
are
reimbursable.
V
V
When
you
were
talking
about
the
article
in
the
newspaper,
I
think
that
we
as
a
community
should
do
everything
that
we
possibly
can
to
advocate
to
ifa
that
those
funds
need
to
stay
here
and
they
need
to
stay
here
for
housing,
because
the
clients
that
we
are
seeing
this
is
not
over
just
because
people
are
going
back
to
work
and
just
because
you
know
the
world's
starting
to
turn
again,
we
don't
have
to
wear
masks.
These
are
the
people
that
we've
been
serving
for
years
and
years
I
mean
they're.
V
Not
some
of
them
are
new
clients.
They've
never
experienced
anything
like
this,
but
you
always
have
the
people
that
are
already
spending
more
than
50
percent
of
their
income
on
rent
and
their
ability
to
be
able
to
stay
in
those
units.
I
don't
know
what
landlords
are
going
to
really
do
if,
once
evictions
start
where
people
are
going
to
go,
this
will
just
mean
that
we
will
possibly
spend
more
time
in
the
shelter.
V
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
ann
is
probably
going
to
get
more
money
for
this,
because
it's
going
to
be
needed
simply
because
the
money
you
know
they
may
not
be
able
to
get
it
out
at
other
parts
of
iowa,
but
any
advocacy
that
can
be
done
with
the
governor
and
with
ifa
to
make
sure
that
the
urban
areas
are
able
to
have.
Some
of
this
money
would
be
helpful
because
we
are
going
to
need
it
we're
going
to
see
an
increase
in
doubling
up,
and
you
know
one
of
the
things
is.
V
V
So
if
you
have
any
difficult
questions,
I
can
bring
up.
I
can
ask
jam,
but
I
appreciate
the
city's
response
in
this
and
it
you
are
always
good
to
work
with.
I
mean
any
issues
that
we
may
have
you
try
to
work
through
the
best
you
can
with
what
you're
given.
So
I
really
appreciate
it-
and
I
I
know
within
this
community
that
we
have
saved
hundreds
and
hundreds,
if
not
thousands,
of
families
that
I
don't
know
where
they
would
have
gone
well.
Thank
you.
P
D
P
O
G
W
G
And
where
I'm
going
with
this,
I
mean
I've
just
heard
rumblings
about
as
we
advocate
to
try
and
get
some
of
those
state
dollars
that
aren't
being
used.
There's
concern
about
the
folks
who
haven't
been
working
and
if
child
care
is
that
issue,
I
think
that
should
be
an
exception
and
that
circumstance
should
be
taken
into
account.
V
The
I
can
tell
you
that,
from
working
with
the
people
that
we've
worked
with
nobody,
nobody
was
out
there
definitely
trying
to
scale
the
system.
I
mean
everyone
that
we
that
called
us
had
a
true
need,
whether
that
was
because
you
know,
and
we
in
january
I
can
tell
you
we
have
never
in
40
in
50
years
of
homemade,
we
have
never
turned
off
the
phones
to
landlord
town
calls.
In
january
this
year
we
were
so
overwhelmed
because
anne
had
already
spent
all
of
her
money.
V
We
were
the
only
ones
in
town
that
had
any
and
we
had.
We
turned
off
our
phones.
For
a
month
we
were
unable
to
take
any
landlord
tenant
calls
at
that
time.
Our
home
ownership
calls
we
were
working
exclusively
with
esg,
but
I
would
I
would
say
that
you
know
I'm
sure
there
are
some
people
who
take
advantage
of
the
system,
but
we
did
not
see
that
I
mean
everybody
that
we
saw.
We
have
documentation
that
they
couldn't
pay.
F
P
I'm
ian
bacon
with
impact
community
action
partnership.
I
think
the
last
time
I
stood
before
this
group
was
to
accept
the
assumption
agreement
where
impact
was
redrock
community
action
and
we
assumed
the
work
from
the
city
for
community
action,
so
things
have
been
going
pretty
good.
Thank
you,
you're.
P
P
P
So
when
we
talk
about
these
funds,
I
want
to
assure
you
that
the
vast
majority
of
these
families
really
need
this
assistance
and
while
the
economy
is
rebounding
and
has
not
recovered,
it
is
going
to
take
some
time.
Many
of
these
families
have
taken
on
more
debt
in
order
to
cover
their
basic
needs
during
this
time,
and
they
need
help
getting
out
of
this
hole
that
has
been
built.
P
So
impact
worked
with
the
city
originally
with
cdbg.
We
call
it
cdbgcv
adbg
coronavirus
in
two
different
allotments
of
funds,
and
they
were
some
of
the
first
funds
that
came
in,
and
so
we
targeted
them
immediately
on
people
with
rental
issues
and
then
when
cv2
came,
it
was
very
much
an
alignment
with
when
the
treasury
money
came.
So
we
started
looking
at
the
families
that
we
couldn't
serve
in
other
programs
and
oftentimes.
P
That
was
mortgages
either
traditional
mortgages
or
contract
mortgages,
because
none
of
the
federal
funds
allowed
us
to
assist
those
families,
and
so
it
was
through
the
cdbg
cv
funds
that
we
were
able
to
help
some
of
those
families.
But
the
big
money
came
through
the
treasury
and
they're.
Just
I'm
going
to
try
to
explain
this,
even
though
it
sounds
completely
crazy.
But
it's
true.
P
We
discussed
how
to
set
up
the
program.
We
determined
that
the
best
course
of
action
was
to
not
add
any
rules
to
what
the
treasury
has
already
laid
out
through
the
legislation
and
through
the
guidance
of
the
treasury.
There
were
very
clear:
rules
had
to
be
below
80
ami
had
to
prioritize
people
below
50,
ami
and
those
who
had
received
unemployment.
P
P
P
We
added
one
more
rule,
which
was:
we
would
not
pay
late
fees.
We
were
paying
tens
of
thousands
of
dollars
in
arrears
to
landlords.
We
understand
that
they
have
late
fees
as
well,
but
to
be
able
to
use
as
much
money
as
possible
for
actual
rent
and
rent
arrears
and
utilities.
We
require
the
landlord
to
say
that
that
they
will
not
charge
the
late
fees
we
have
had
one
landlord
say
they
will
not
participate
in
the
program
because
we
wouldn't
pay
the
late
fees,
but
in
that
case
then
we
will
then
assist
the
tenant
directly.
P
P
P
We
cannot
staff
to
meet
that
need.
We
are
able
to
answer
about
65
of
our
calls
on
any
given
day
and
we
do
get
some
complaints
about.
We
can't
answer
the
people
are
answering
the
phones
but
and
also
processing
the
payments.
We
can
hire
staff,
but
the
unique
skill
set
needed
to
be
able
to
follow
these
treasury
rules
and
be
a
great
provider
of
human
services.
P
P
P
One
of
the
challenges
of
the
state
program
is:
they
have
chosen
not
to
pay
ahead
and
they
are
requiring
each
month
that
they
assist
a
family
that
they'd
be
late.
So
what
that
means
is
on
august
3rd
someone
could
apply,
but
they
cannot
turn
a
check.
I
can
guarantee
you.
They
cannot
turn
a
check
in
under
three
weeks,
we're
still
processing
applications
from
problem
the
ecosystem.
P
So
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
like
I
said.
Success
of
the
program
so
far
is
because
of
the
staff
at
the
city,
the
county
and
at
impact
looking
at
the
fastest
way
to
assist
these
families.
Someone
asked
who
are
we
serving
and
we're
going
to
talk
about
who
we're
sitting?
I
have
a
little
piece
of
paper
here
to
pass
around
about
the
demographics
of
the
families
in
the
city
of
des
moines.
The
other
thing
you
need
to
know
about
our
numbers:
is
they
change
our
buy
out?
P
You
know
so,
to
give
you
a
hard
number
at
any
given
moment.
We
can
give
you
a
snapshot,
but
what
I'm
giving
you
a
snapshot
of
in
these
numbers
are
families
from
des
moines.
Some
of
them
were
served
with
e-wrap
des
moines.
Some
of
them
were
served
with
e-wrap
county
because
des
moines
went
through
its
funding
extraordinarily
quickly,
because
the
need
was
so
high
and
then
the
county
reassigned
some
of
their
funding
to
be
able
to
serve
within
the
city.
P
That's
one
of
the
issues
with
the
state
program
right
now
is,
even
though
they
have
statewide
funding.
They
will
not
allow
people
from
the
city
of
des
moines
or
polk
county
to
apply
through
their
portal
until
we
spend
out
our
funding
to
date.
45
percent
of
the
people
in
des
moines,
who
received
this
assistance,
were
under
18
59
were
female
and
36
percent
identified
as
white
13
are
currently
receiving
unemployment.
Insurance
74
received
income
of
some
sort.
That
could
include
something
as
simple
as
collecting
cans
on
the
road
or
working
a
full-time
job.
P
So
74
are
working
right
now,
14
receive
some
sort
of
retirement,
disability,
income
and
impact.
We
work
a
lot
under
the
federal
poverty
guidelines
versus
the
ami,
which
is
the
area
median
income.
So
when
you
talk
about
poverty,
we
hear
those
numbers
a
lot.
66
percent
of
those
we
served
were
below
100,
which
means
that
for
a
family
of
three
it's
just
under
22
000
a
year.
P
Again.
To
put
this
in
perspective,
mit
says
that
for
a
family
of
three
in
polk
county
to
meet
their
basic
needs,
they
need
to
earn
just
over
sixty
thousand
dollars
a
year
to
do
that.
Without
any
assistance
in
my
note,
says.
Well,
we
have
worked
diligently
to
make
this
program
as
accessible
as
possible.
It
is
not
an
easy
process
for
tenants
or
landlords.
So
that's
one
thing:
when
people
are
concerned
about
the
families
we're
serving
in
this
easy
money
that
is
keeping
them
from
working,
this
is
an
arduous
process.
P
We
only
have
about
95
of
our
applications
coming
in
online.
That
are
perfect.
The
rest.
We
need
to
contact
the
family,
we
need
to
help
them
gather
the
correct
documents
we
have
to
reach
out
to
landlords.
We
have
landlords
who
don't
fill
out
w
nights
correctly.
Am
I
right
so
we
can't
process
them,
there's
all
kinds
of
paperwork
that
we're
doing
tons
of
follow-up
on.
It's
not
easy.
P
The
income
level
allowed
to
receive
this
assistance
would
not
discourage
anyone
from
being
at
work
because
you
can
earn
up
to
80
of
ami,
and
so
it's
not
like
they're
saying.
Oh,
I
don't
want
to
go
back
to
work
because
I
won't
qualify
for
this
anymore.
That's
just
not
correct
a
family
of
three
can
earn
up
to
65
750
annually
and
still
qualify
for
this
income.
Very
few
of
those
families
are
applying,
but
that
is
not
what's
happening.
The
program
is
designed
to
not
only
assist
families
in
rebounding
from
the
pandemic.
P
P
The
second
round
of
funding
that
I
am
extraordinarily
interested
in,
but
we're
already
spending
on
emergent
rent
needs
right
now,
doesn't
have
to
be
spent
until
2025.
That's
about
125
million
that
the
state
could
apply
for
that.
So
far
to
date,
they've
decided
not
to
apply
for
that.
Funding
could
do
a
long-term
program
for
housing
stability,
because
there's
more
money
for
stability
as
well
as
administration,
and
I
personally
from
a
low-income
family
advocate,
thinks
it
is
excruciatingly
unbelievable
that
we
would
leave
that
money
on
the
table.
P
P
I
can
say
that
I
can
say
it
over
and
over
again
that
the
state
does
not
take
and
expand
within
the
state
will
go
to
another
state
or
location.
We
have
had
a
discussion
with
sidney
axne's
office
to
request
that
the
treasury,
the
treasury
has
in
the
contract
the
right
to
what's
called
clawback
where
they
can
look
at
states
and
localities
that
are
not
spending
their
funding
and
pull
it
back
to
the
treasury
and
reallocate
sooner
now
when
they
call
that
money
back.
It
is
not
going
back
into
the
deficit.
P
P
It's
right
around
125
million
that
hasn't
been
applied
for
yet,
but
there's
still
over
100
million
dollars
sitting
in
the
in
the
first
in
the
first
batch
and
there's
a
lot
of
reasons
why
I
can
tell
you
it's
an
excruciating
program
to
administer.
It
takes
a
huge
amount
of
staff
digged
out
into
it,
it's
not
for
the
week
at
heart,
but
it
is
extraordinarily
helpful
and
the
other
issue
is,
I
would
always
advocate
when
working
with
low
income,
families
do
not
add
more
rules
than
you
have
to
the
rules
are
already
difficult
enough.
P
The
bandwidth
these
families
are
already
using
in
their
day-to-day
life
is
already
stretched.
Don't
add
more
rules,
don't
make
it
harder
in
the
short
run,
landlords
win
in
this
program.
The
economy
wins
in
this
program.
All
it
does
is:
dump
really
great
disposable
income
into
our
economy.
I
cannot
come
up
with
one
negative
aspect
of
this
program
or
any
reason
why
we
wouldn't
do
everything
we
could
to
help
as
many
families
for
as
long
as
possible.
T
P
P
D
I
I
have
a
question.
I
commend
everybody
for
the
work
that
they're
doing,
because
I
know
that
you're
taking
a
lot
of
calls
and
you're
helping
a
lot
of
people.
I
have.
I
have
two
questions
and
I
have
spoken
to
several
latino
families
who
may
be
undocumented
and
I
have
given
them
information
saying
please,
please
go
apply,
do
something
and
they
won't
do
it,
because
they
are
so
afraid
that
the
government
is
going
to
get
a
hold
of
their
information,
and
I
mean
I'm
I'm
well
aware
of
a
family
that
is
struggling.
D
P
P
The
funding
for
this
particular
program,
even
from
the
treasury
legislation,
speaks
nothing
of
the
status
of
the
families
so
afraid
I
know
they're
afraid
and
but
all
we
can
do
is
say
we
don't
need
your
social.
That's
our
number
one
thing
that
usually
triggers
people
and
to
understand
that
the
data
of
the
individual
families
remains
in
our
system.
P
Unless
we
get
a
program
or
a
programmatic
audit,
and
at
that
time
they
all
they
would
have.
Is
that
person's
name
and
current
address,
but
there's
nothing
that
asks
their
status?
There's
nothing
that
cares
about
their
status
and
when
we
get
those
program
on
it's
about
us
not
about
the
families
we
serve
now,
the
challenge
is,
and
we
have
some
partners
in
the
community,
the
spanish
helpline,
luna
and
bart.
P
We
have
a
number
of
partners
that
are
working
with
marginalized
communities
where
people
can
apply
through
them
and
they
should
be
able
to
provide
some
assurance
now
at
the
fed.
At
the
state
level,
through
the
ifa
program,
I
can't
speak
to
how
that
process
works,
but
I
know
with
impact
for
this
particular
program.
There
is
no
requirement
around
specific
status
in
the
united
states.
W
D
And
my
other
question
is:
is
now
that
neighborhood
groups
are
starting
to
meet
again,
I
know
I'm
busy,
I'm
sure
everybody
else
is
busy
with
neighborhood
groups
we
oftentimes
get
asked,
you
know
where
to
go.
Is
there
a
cheat
sheet?
Is
there?
Is
there
some
place
that
we
could
print
out
something
and
say
here,
contact
tell
me
like.
P
Time
to
check
hope
care,
which
is
the
pope
county
continuum
of
care,
had
that
all
over
their
website,
most
important
whole
cares
and
they
looked,
and
they
showed
try
this,
but
this
and
this
because
we
often
like
to
have
people
go
through
a
specific
order
in
order
to
use
the
money,
but
I
do
want
to
say
that
you
know
you'll
hear
us
say
how
much
money
we've
paid
out,
how
much
money
is
allocated?
How
much
money
is
encumbered.
You
know
we
have
about
900
applications
when
I
checked
this
morning
sitting
in
the
system.
P
Still
we
expect
to
expend
our
second
round
funding
by
september,
which
means
it
will
be
obligated
the
beginning
of
august,
and
so
even
if
they
apply
today,
if
they've
applied
today,
they're
fine
they're
fine,
but
we
don't.
We
do
not
have
a
never-ending
amount
of
money.
You
know
some
folks
are
like
what
are
you
doing
to
promote
this?
I
wish
we
could
promote
it.
The
problem
is
we
can't.
I
mean
if
we
do.
P
You
know
that's
problematic,
but
everything
right
now,
a
ton
of
stuff
hinges
on
what
the
state
decides
to
do
with
their
funding.
I
will
tell
this
group
I'll
say
it
over
and
over
again:
if
the
rule
is,
you
can
have
our
money,
but
you
have
to
follow
our
rules.
I
would
highly
advise
against
that.
If
we
want
to
follow
their
rules,
we
can
just
have
our
folks
apply
to
their
portal
without
taking
on
the
additional
administrative
burden.
P
So
you
know
this
because
that's
what
originally
happened
was
there
was
a
discussion
and
it
was
well
if
you
follow
our
rules,
we'll
push
the
money
down,
you
know
making
people
be
late
and
get
an
eviction
in
order
to
help
them
is
not
helpful
to
anybody
and
it
creates
an
administrative
burden.
That's
difficult
to
overcome.
Well,.
W
T
D
Q
P
That'd
be
crazy,
but
no,
this
is
still.
It
still
shows
that
you
know
whenever
anyone
I
bring
these
numbers
up
whenever
anyone
is
concerned
about.
Does
this
family
over
here
deserve
it,
or
should
this
adult
be
back
in
the
workforce,
or
should
this
person
be
doing
this
or
that
these
children
45
of
the
people
we're
helping,
have
zero
power
in
that
situation?
P
Yes,
absolutely
and
I'll
tell
you
this
before
I
sit
down,
I
always
talk
about
direct
assistance
and
basic
needs
and
divergent
conditions.
Much
like
I
want
you
to
imagine.
When
the
titanic
was
going
down
right,
the
titanic's
going
down.
You
have
people
in
the
water.
We
spend
no
time
asking
them
if
they
have
swim
lessons,
we
take
no
time
to
try
to
teach
them
to
swim.
Nor
do
we
question
whether
or
not
they
have
the
opportunity
and
just
didn't
take
it.
P
We
give
them
the
life
preserver
to
give
them
a
heads
above
water,
and
then
we
start
talking
about
long-term
change.
We're
in
that
situation.
These
folks
are
in
the
water.
I
don't
think
we
need
to
spend
a
huge
amount
of
time
determining
whether
or
not
they
could
go
get
a
job
tomorrow
or
not.
We
just
need
to
keep
them
housed.
P
E
P
B
Board
of
directors-
and
I
continue
to
marvel
at
the
great
work
that
anne
does
you
know
this
is
such
a
fragile
budget.
I
mean
there's
times
we're
operating
in
the
red
counting
on
money
coming
in,
so
to
hear
the
kind
of
things
that
the
state's
trying
to
strangle
us
with
does
not
make
any
sense
at
all.
In
addition,
as
an
pointed
out,
one
of
the
toughest
things
to
do
is
manage
the
people
that
are
taking
these
calls
in,
because
you
have
a
certain
skill
set
to
take
these
calls
coming
in.
B
They
have
to
sign
their
time
religiously
in
order
to
get
paid.
I
just
I
think,
you're,
just
you
juggle
quite
a
few
bowling
pins
out
there.
You
look
pretty
good
doing
it,
so
I'm
just
proud
to
be
a
member
of
this.
I
just
want
to
let
you
guys
know
that
this
is
one
agency
that
impacts
in
every
ward
throughout
our
city,
that
these
people
are
working
to
to
make
our
city
better.
In
fact,
that
part
of
our
mission
is
to
eliminate
poverty,
as
we
know
it
today
appreciate
it
dan.
G
General
question
from
you
know:
scott
scott
was
here
for
this
I
mean
the
key
piece
is
going
to
be
trying
to
figure
out
how
to
work
with
the
state
to
get
those
dollars,
and
you
know
I'm
sure,
there's
some
level
of
advocacy
going
on
already.
I'm
just
not
looked
into
that,
but
but
from
the
folks
who
are
working
on
this,
you
know
what
it's
got,
I'm
asking
about:
what's
what
steps
are
taking
to
engage
with
the
state
and
trying
to
try
and
get
those
dollars.
P
T
Yeah,
so
the
communication
is
going
to
be
with
iva,
so
it'll
be
directly
to
director
durham,
trying
to
actually
get
some
time.
Yet
this
week
in
person
with
someone
from
the
council,
connie's
been
very
helpful
and
I
think
the
key
here
is
we.
We
also
want
to
keep
things
streamlined
and
we've
shown
that
it
was
a
very
wise
decision
and
foresight
on
the
mayor's
part.
Frankly,
that
we
got
those
funds
directly
and
so
both
us
and
the
county,
and
we
were
able
then
to
engage
those
funds
immediately.
T
The
opportunity
we
have
to
get
additional
funds.
A
lot
would
allow
us-
and
I
would
strongly
recommend
this-
to
combine
the
city
and
the
county's
efforts,
knowing
that
it's
being
applied
through
the
same
agency
of
impact
and
to
streamline
that
even
further
and
really
just
put
our
political
will
and
desires
together
with
the
county,
so
that
the
state
funds
would
go
to
the
county
and
would
be
distributed
mostly
to
des
moines
residents.
P
I
will
say
one
thing:
I've
learned
through
this.
I
am
very
political.
The
way
I
live
my
life,
but
I
don't
do
politics
and
I've
learned
through
this
process
that
there
is
a
ton
of
politics
display
so,
for
example,
the
I'm
probably
the
last
person
that
should
ever
talk
to
anyone
in
this
state,
because
I
have
such
passionate
views
on
how
we
approach
people
in
poverty.
P
L
C
T
X
Chris
johansson
neighborhood
services
director
today
we're
going
to
talk
about
new
resources
for
neighborhoods
specific,
specifically
our
neighborhood
outreach
coordinator
and
our
property
improvement
program
and,
more
specifically,
about
the
property
improvement
program.
Is
our
two
neighborhood
liaison
positions
that
we'll
be
hiring
for
that
as
well
and
just
to
explain
the
difference
between
the
two
positions.
X
X
X
This
is
more
getting
into
helping
the
neighborhood
associations
how
they
run,
how
they
manage
their
business
and
really
looking
to
be
more
supportive
of
them
as
a
as
an
organization
pleased
to
say
that
recruitment
for
this
position
will
begin
this
week,
so
the
job
should
be
posted
by
the
end
of
the
week.
I've
been
told
so
we'll
be
going
through
a
recruitment
process
and
should
have
someone
on
board
soon.
Then.
X
One
of
the
main
areas
that
this
position
will
be
working
on
is
technical
assistance
for
our
neighborhoods
kind
of
the
thought
and
how
we
went
into
this
was
once
we
do
get
our
position
hired.
I
am
planning
to
have
that
position
have
a
meeting
with
our
neighborhood
associations
just
to
have
that
dialogue
of
what
what
is
needed
and
what
what
type
of
support
they
are
needing
from
the
city.
X
X
So
when
you
have
a
neighborhood
meeting-
and
you
have
a
bunch
of
guest
speakers,
whether
they're
elected
officials-
I
know
sometimes
even
state
representatives
come
to
them-
it's
usually
most
proper
to
have
them
at
the
front
of
the
meeting.
Instead
of
way.
At
the
end,
whether
you
have
a
a
topic,
that's
going
to
have
a
lot
of
debate.
You
know
where
you
put
that
on
the
agenda
and
we've
even
talked
about
neighborhood
associations
and
their
support
of
candidates
during
elections.
X
X
All
of
them,
I
I
don't
know
that
that'd
be
something
we'd
have
to
look
into.
We
don't
we
don't
require
it,
you
don't
we
don't
require
it.
We
do
require,
they
all
have
bylaws,
but
that's
something
we'd
have
to
we'd
have
to
look
at,
maybe
as
a
part
of
this
position,
that's
something
we
could
figure
out
more
of,
though
too.
X
D
X
J
J
J
I
mean
they're,
they
care
just
as
much
about
the
neighborhood
as
the
recognized
neighborhood
association.
So
how
do
we?
I
don't
know
how
I
know
in
the
past
on
the
council,
there
was
some
strong
feelings
that
we're
not
going
to
do
anything
for
an
unrecognized
neighborhood
association
by
maybe
one
certain
council
member.
I
don't
know
how
everyone
feels
about
it,
but
I
mean
I
I
I
don't
know.
I
think
that
they
they
care
about
the
neighborhood
as
much
as
they
recognize.
T
So
there's
a
lot
of
public
documents
and
guidance
that
will
come
out
of
this.
That
could
easily
be
shared.
I
think
it's
really
a
question
for
council
of
when
they
call
up,
and
they
want
us
to
talk
about
etiquette
and
some
of
these
things.
It
might
take
more
conversations.
Is
it
okay
because
we'll
get
the
same
request
for
someone
to
consolidate
it
as
a
second?
I
I.
J
Okay,
the
recognized
neighborhood
I'm
going
to
lobby
for
the
unrecognized
neighborhood
to
be
treated
the
difference.
Well
then,
I
just
created
an
enemy
out
of
you
know
the
ten
people
that
show
up
with
the
other
launcher
right,
so
we
need
to
figure
out
kind
of
a
happy
medium
of
how
and
not
you
know,
for
me
in
this
instance,
it'll
be
me,
but
I
don't
know,
maybe
there's
some
other
ones
that.
E
X
J
J
E
J
Just
know
that
I
I
told
her
that
I
would
bring
this
up
during
this
time,
and
so
I'm
doing
it
and
I'm
I'm
fine
with
them
getting
the
same
services
as
the
recognized
one,
and
I
told
them
that
you
know
I
mean
I
just
I
I
guess
I
guess
that
is
getting
in
the
middle
of
it,
but
I'm
not
gonna.
You
know
yeah.
Q
L
J
Well,
they're
all
they,
and
that
is
not
that's.
It's
just
a
nice
war
and
it's
a
representative
from
every
one
of
the
neighborhood
associations,
picks
someone
to
come
to
this
meeting
quarterly
and
then
they
they
have
a
board.
They
have
a
president
and
a
vice
chair
and
they
they
meet
and
talk
about
all
of
the
issues
that
the
south
side.
L
L
E
J
Yeah
I
mean
I,
I
don't
know
how
this
is
going
to
affect
them.
I
don't
think
yeah.
I
don't
think
they're
not
going
to
need
probably
this,
but
you
know
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
if
they
do
have
a
need
that
we
are
going
to
say,
okay,
we're
going
to
we're
going
to
help
them
also,
but
they'll
get
their
they'll
get
all
their
assistance
through
their
individual
neighborhood
association.
Well,.
D
X
X
X
Okay,
okay,
so
resident
academy.
Next
one
is
the
neighborhood
recognition
policy.
So
this
is
this
policy
is
what
is
what
establishes
our
neighborhood
associations
throughout
the
city?
So
this
is
where
we
have
the
you
know
the
rules
that
the
neighborhoods
have
to
follow.
Often
they
have
to
meet
the
neighborhood
surveys,
a
part
of
this,
so
this
policy,
the
the
neighborhood
outreach
coordinator,
will
oversee
this
policy.
X
K
J
X
X
X
One
thing
I
am
wanting
to
do
more
of
than
we've
ever
historically
done
is
you
know,
usually
when
neighborhood
associations
are
formed,
they
they're
really
not
focused
on
what
the
city's
policy
or
intent
is
on.
Why
they're
forming
so
really
to
get
out
and
work
with
the
neighborhoods
on
what
the
purpose
is
kind
of
more
of
that
communication
link
between
the
city
and
the
neighborhoods.
X
The
last
final
major
responsibility
for
this
position
is
the
block
grant
challenge
program.
This
is
the
one
that
we
just
started
the
beginning
of
july.
This
was
the
one
I
think,
as
you
guys
recall,
that
we're
partnering
with
invest
dsm
for
the
first
year
to
do
this
throughout
all
of
our
neighborhoods
throughout
the
city.
X
So
this
first,
this
staff
person
eventually
will
be
leading
this
program
in
the
neighborhoods
outside
of
the
special
investment
districts
this
first
year,
we're
kind
of
doing
it
a
little
piece
meal
with
invest,
esm
kind
of
really
being
the
main
leaders
of
the
program,
but
I
have
two
staff
in
our
office
right
now
that
are
kind
of
learning
this.
So
when
the
neighborhood
outreach
coordinator
starts
they'll,
be
able
to
pick
that
up
as
well.
T
J
J
T
E
000
not
in
this,
this
is
just
for
you
know,
for
the
people
outside
the
invest
area,
because
they,
so
it
was
really
a
way
to
say
that
outside
of
those
four
areas,
we
are
still
going
to
try
to
help
the
city
other
areas
of
the
city.
So,
on
your
block,
if
you
found
five
people
or
your
area,
you
could
get,
you
can
get
the
matching
brand.
E
We
were
at
a
couple
block
parties
yesterday
to
that
drake
area.
It
was
great
to
see
the
neighbors
come
together
and
appreciative
of
the
efforts
and
the
amount
of
improvements
they're
doing
to
their
houses,
which
has
spurred
they
maybe
got
a
2500,
but
they
put
in
10
000.
By
the
time
they
got
done.
They're
it
made
everything
yeah.
J
I
I
would
say
before
we
commit
any
more
money
to
that
program.
We
better
look
at
what
our
property
maintenance
pro
code
is
going
to
do,
and
we're
going
to
need
to
have
additional
revenue
to
help
people
that
can't
afford
to
fix
their
homes
in
an
adequate
way
to
do
a
maintenance.
I
mean,
if
we're
doing
the
proper
maintenance
we're
going
to
have
to
put
probably
a
lot
more
than
200
000
in
the
fund
to
help
people
that
can't
afford
it
exactly.
J
Okay,
I
just
I
mean
I'm
fine
with
putting
money
back
into
the
neighborhoods,
but
we
better
be
smart
about
how
we're
gonna
do
it
and
what
we're
gonna
do.
I
thought
that
that
fun
when
they're
talking
about
it,
was
strictly
from
the
2.5
million,
because
it
wasn't
all
getting
used
in
all
the
neighborhoods
from
the
best
esm.
I
didn't
think
that
I
know
my
neighborhood
hasn't.
J
I
mean
they
did
it
not
a
very
good
job
of
just
spending
the
money
and
we've
had
money's
still
there
yeah,
I
we
had
a
meeting
down
there
at
columbus
and
mckinley,
and
you
know
they
were
they
had
a
report.
They
had
a
report
from
amber
and
chris
and
myself
was
there
and
we
talked
a
lot
about
that
where
the
money's
still
there
but
they're,
not
using
it
yeah.
T
Yeah,
the
city-wide
effort
is
just
getting
started.
I
I'm
hopeful
that
we'll
have
an
understanding
of
the
the
desire
and
the
number
of
applicants
the
amount,
if
you
will
before
we
get
into
our
budget
discussions
this
winter.
Okay.
So
then
I
can
come
back
to
you
and
say
you
know
we
had
hundreds
of
applications
through
investigation,
but
you
know
this
is
what
the
magnitude
that
we
need
to
cover
that
moving
forward.
J
We
don't
know
who's
going
to
be
able
not
to
afford
some
of
the
improvements
that
we're
going
to
need
to
make
in
some
of
these
homes,
and
who
can
I
understand,
we're
going
to
put
a
lien
on
there.
You
know
when
the
house
is
sold,
we're
going
to
get
back
some
of
that
money,
but
we
better
have
a
little
kitty.
That's
going
to
actually
do
what
we
need
to
do.
J
D
X
J
Don't
understand
how
we're
giving
them
free
money
to
do
anything
to
be
honest
with
you,
because
no
one
has
taken
really
advantage
of
it.
Mckinley
and
columbus
park.
I
mean
there's
been
a
few,
but
not
enough
to
really
get
the
word
out.
So
they
are.
They
are
very
skeptical
and
leery
yeah.
Okay,
I'm
not
you
know
no
one's
ever
ever.
Given
me
a
match
of
anything,
no
one's
ever
given
me
any
money
to
do
anything
from
the
city.
That's
all
they
did
is
you
know.
L
J
X
I'm
hopeful
after
we
have
our
neighborhood
outreach
coordinated
and
they
start
to
work
with
the
neighborhood.
You
know
they're
there
they
can
help
to
promote
the
program,
build
a
little
more
trust.
You
know
right
now.
It's
kind
of
you
know
we
don't
have
that
face
of
it.
So
no
it's
a
little
difficult,
but
you
know
we
haven't.
J
Met
for
16
17
years
yeah,
you
know,
I
mean
it
was
our
first
meeting
back
and
you
know
it's
still
a
very
limited
amount
of
people
that
participate
in
mckinley
and
columbus
park.
I
mean
we
have
more
people
there
at
this
time
than
we've
ever
had
yeah,
but
they
were
still
asking
a
lot
of
questions
like
really
you're
going
to
match
this
and
yeah.
You
know
wait.
J
J
X
So
I
have
this
slide
on
here
number
one.
First,
to
give
you
a
timeline,
so
you
know
when
this
is
going
to
be
coming
back
to
the
city
council.
First,
big
discussion
we'll
be
having
september
13th
at
a
workshop
and
that's
for
us
to
present
a
very
high
level.
This
is
what
the
program
is.
These
are
the
type
of
items
we're
going
to
be
enforcing
on.
Are
you
talking
about
property
maintenance,
yeah,
yeah?
J
L
J
Immediately
that
will
be
taken
up
at
the
state
house
and
we
will
be
preemptive
from
that
yeah
immediately
because
they're,
if
we,
if
we
don't,
have
the
resources
to
to
help
people
that
can't
afford
to
fix
their
sighting
or
fix
their
roof
or
do
things
like
that
and
then
they
still
might
be.
I'm
just
I
don't
know.
X
The
for
the
13th,
when
we
get
to
that
point,
we
need
to
have
that
program
fleshed
out
the
one
thing
I
would
tell
you
it's
going
to
have
to
come
with
the
budget,
there's
going
to
be
existing
resources
already
in
the
community,
we're
going
to
have
to
rely
on
for
this
type
of
work,
the
the
two
positions
that
really
help
drive.
This
are
the
two
property
improvement
liaisons.
X
X
T
J
E
E
T
D
D
X
X
The
one
thing
I
will
tell
you,
though,
at
the
going
through
this
process
on
what
types
of
programs
are
needed
for
the
property
improvement
program.
We
have
we're
going
to
have
the
capacity
to
ramp
up
any
re-have
program.
We
need
to
have
in-house
to
do
that,
but
but
to
answer
your
questions,
the
I
know
what
program
you're
talking
about
the
emergency
repair.
X
X
E
S
S
Or
you
know
how
do
you
have
a
group
of
people
that
are
going
to
go
out
and
help
repair
the
broken
window?
Now,
roofs
and
things?
Those
are
a
little
more
expensive,
they're
a
little
bit
bigger
and
it
may
be
on
an
nfc
loan
forgivable
loan.
It
could
be
there's
an
asset
because
the
of
the
the
property
can
support
the
loan
for
the
roof,
but
but
some
people
don't
know
how
to
walk
through
that
process.
S
How
do
you
apply
for
the
mortgage?
How
do
you
go
to
nfc?
How
do
you
walk
through
those
those
complicated
things
that,
even
even
when
I
went
through
it,
it's
not
easy.
So
the
liaison
is
the
person
that
says:
okay,
here's
what
we
have
to
do
to
get
through
it
here
here
are
the
resources
we
can
get
your
window
fixed,
because
the
boy
scouts
need
a
badge
or
something,
and
so
they're
going
to
come
out
and
help.
You
fix
your
window
and
here's
going
to
be
the
long-term
plan
on
your
own.
S
It's
not
going
to
be
a
notice,
goes
out
in
30
days
and
then
we're
going
to
do
it
boom.
It
could
take
two
years
for
some
of
these
people
to
get
through
the
process
of
how
do
you
find
the
resource?
How
do
you
pull
it
together
and
what's
the
plan
for
the
run
for
the
fix
up?
It's
not
going
to
be.
I
try
to
to
equate
it
of
it's.
Not
a
it's,
not
a
code
enforcement
process;
okay,
it's
not
a
code
enforcement
thing
and
that's
probably
what
we
have
here.
S
No,
no,
that's
why
I'm
calling
it
property
improvement
instead
of
a
code
enforcement
thing,
it's
going
to
be
a
different
group
of
people.
Okay,
it's
going
to
be
over
here
code
enforcement's
over
there;
okay,
yes,
you're
going
to
have
inspectors,
go
out
and
they'll
see
and
they'll
see,
and
then
you
go
to
the
and
you
know
with
the
exterior
check.
S
S
I'm
just
throwing
out
a
nice
number
because
I
like
it,
but
then
you
get,
but
then
you
get
pardoned,
I'm
like
two
okay,
two
two's
better,
but
then
you
also
get
civic
civic
groups
that
want
to
have
some
activity,
and
you
say
to
principal:
when
you
do
your
your
civic
hours,
that
they
give
people.
Can
you
volunteer
some
of
your
hours
to
our
program?
S
The
liaison
goes
out
and
looks
for
those
hours
and
and
matches
things
up
and
then
matches
the
person
up
to
the
programs
and
walks
them
through
the
paperwork
and
walks
them
through.
How
do
you
get
it
and
how
do
you
get
it
done?
So
they
may
get
a
notice.
You
know
you
have
exterior
peeling
paint
you
need
to.
S
S
Yeah,
I
mean
that's,
that's
sort
of
the
guidelines
you
were
talking
about
previously
with
you
know,
with
the
funding
on
some
of
those
assistance
programs
we'll
have
to
look
at
what's
the
best
method
of
figuring
out
what
the
income
guidelines
are
going
to
be.
We
have
good
people
out
there
that
have
already
done.
Some
of
this
work
on
youtube
might
be
that
we.
S
S
And
by
the
time
we
get
to
september
13th
part
of
the
rollout
to
you
is
going
to
be
explain
how
how
we're
selling
it?
Okay,
what
what
is
the?
What
is
the
outreach
going
to
look
like
so
that
when
we
go
out
into
the
community,
this
is
a
social
work,
not
a
code
enforcement
effort
that
this
is
not
a
code
enforcement
effort
and
we
need
to
be
very
clear
with
people.
E
L
L
S
C
X
X
The
the
guiding
principles
document
is
the
one
document
we
talked
about
you're
trying
to
help
answer
a
lot
of
these
questions.
You
know
what
to
do
in
this
case
scenario,
so
I
know
in
every
award.
I
could
almost
tell
you
which,
which
house
everyone's
thinking
about
because
we've
heard
of
it
and
it's
owner
occupied,
and
we
don't
have
the
enforcement
tool
to
do
it
right
now,
but
the
guiding
principles
is
really
supposed
to
get
to
that
piece.
You
know
how
we
operate
this
right
and
to
underscore
what
sue's
been
talking
about.
B
One
thing
I'd
see
is
all
kind
of
steered
towards
homeowners.
What
about
landlords?
I
mean
there
isn't
a
single
property
in
any
of
our
awards
that
hasn't
been
a
highlighted,
blighted
property
with
terrible
landlords,
and
so
you
know
the
one
I'm
talking
about
what?
What
are
we
going
to
do
about
that,
because
I'll
tell
you
what
the
complaints
that
I
get
almost
always
are
with
absentee
landlords,
letting
the
the
residents
run
a
muck
in
the
place
and
turning
the
place
upside
down
and
not
taking
care
of
anything.
B
B
S
S
I
have
to
work
that
out
more
with
legal,
it's
sort
of
in
in
the
inception
thought
process,
but
there
is
a
code
chapter
42
3,
whatever
it
is,
talks
about
nuisance,
landlords
being
creating
a
nuisance,
so
we'd
have
to
build
the
case
and
then
we'd
have
to
take
it
to
court
and
see
if
the
court
would
agree
that
the
behavior
of
the
tenants
is
a
nuisance.
That
the
landlord
has
to
control,
and
it
would
be
a
test
case
so
we
have
to.
I.
B
Know
the
toughest
thing
to
try
and
tell
these
people
it's
going
to
take
time.
You
know
it's
one
of
the
things
that
we
need
to
make
sure,
because
we
all
have
problem
areas
that
the
landlords
are
just
terrible
and
we
got
to
hold
their
feet
to
the
fire
they're
the
ones
causing
it,
because
they
don't
even
care
what's
going
on
in
their
place.
I
don't
know
if
they've
got
a
damaged
deposit
that
they
have
to
forfeit,
but
you
know
a
lot
of
these
people
that
are
tearing
the
places
up.
B
S
S
B
Or
if
we
do
fix
it,
we
hit
it
right.
There
can't
take
it
away
from
his
rent.
I
mean
these.
Are
I
just
you
know.
This
is
one
of
the
most
frustrating
things
that
I
have
to
deal
with
in
over
eight
years
of
doing
this
stuff.
This
is
just
the
constant
pain
in
the
side
of
all
the
neighbors,
because
they're,
not
they
never
get
to
be
part
of
the
community.
They
don't
want
to
be
a
part
of
the
community
they're
just
going
to
slob
in
slide
out.
We.
J
N
C
B
And
I've
got
one
other
question
chris
yeah,
I
noticed
we
got
things
going
back,
we're
going
to
take
a
couple
slides
back
we're
going
to
do
website
creation,
use
of
social
media
a
lot
of
good
things
here.
One
thing
that
I've
run
across
in
in
a
lot
of
more
active
neighborhoods
is
they
do
like
block
parties
like
beaverdale
fall,
festival,
national
night
out
and
each
group
has
to
go
through
and
get
their
own
insurance.
B
Simplify
it
and
bring
the
cost
down
to
a
manageable
level.
You
know
a
lot
of
neighborhoods
would
like
to
have
like
a
block
party
or
something,
but
the
cost
of
getting
that
insurance
washes
it
away.
Then
they
don't
do
it
and
I'd
hate
to
think
that
we're
not
letting
neighborhoods
get
together
get
that
cohesiveness
they
want
to
build
because
they
can't
get
the
insurance.
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Yeah,
I
just
think
that
we
should
be
incurring
some
if
I
don't
think
we
should
have
to
rely
and
not
that
we
can't
ask
polk
county
for
it,
but
I
mean
these
all
these
neighborhoods
most
of
them
didn't.
You
know
some
noted
great,
go
there.
Some
don't,
and
I
just
think
it's
a
hap
if
we
could
just
say
if
you're
sanctioned
by
us
or
whatever.
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Don't
know
how
that
would
conflict
with
the
neighborhood
plans,
because
I
know
our
neighborhood
plan
we
put
in
there
that
we
would
do
fundraising,
and
that
was
a
requirement
that
the
city
planners
worked
with
this
on
I've,
not
seen
any
city
plan
to
recognize
neighborhoods
where
it
doesn't
talk
about.
This
is
what
this
is:
the
responsibility
of
the
neighborhood
to
raise
funds.