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From YouTube: 4-5-21 City Council Work Session
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Des Moines City Council morning work session on Monday, April 5, 2021.
B
But
I
think
we
had
to
go
ahead
and
get
started.
Let's
welcome
everybody
to
our
monday
april
5th
work
session
and
it
looks
like
we're.
Gonna
jump
right
into
an
update
from
catch
des
moines.
So
let's
turn
it
over
quickly
to
greg
edwards
and
greg.
C
C
D
A
E
C
Can
you
can
somebody
pull
that
up
now?
Are
you
seeing
that
yep
yep.
C
I
can
advance
thank
you
sorry
about
that.
I
don't
know
what
why
this
wasn't
working
well,
thanks
again
for
having
me
and
I'll
I'll.
Be
brief.
I
think
most
of
you
are
aware
of
that
year
that
we've
all
had,
and
in
particular
the
travel
industry
has
been
pretty
much
devastated
by
this
whole
pandemic.
C
Maybe
just
some
facts
here
since
the
pandemic
hit
really
hard.
Last
march,
we've
had
377
events,
meetings,
conventions,
sports,
etc
that
canceled
economic
impact
of
more
than
317
million
dollars
on
our
local
economies.
C
We
cut
salaries,
we
froze
all
incentive
plans.
All
kinds
of
different
programs
obviously
got
cut
from
this
past
year,
we're
beginning
to
see
a
little
bit
of
a
bounce
back
and
we'll
talk
about
that
here
in
a
second
go
ahead
in
the
next
slide.
Please
our
board,
which
approves
our
total
goals
for
the
year.
For
our
event,
booking
goals
did
reduce
our
goals.
This
year
to
220
total.
C
We
really
have
been
struggling
to
meet
that
goal
up
until
the
last
couple
of
months,
where
we're
starting
to
see
some
upturn
and
in
bookings
and
and
things
beginning
to
lighten
up
a
little
bit
next
slide.
Please
implemented
a
lot
of
new
strategies
when
this
thing
totally
hit
started
communicating
immediately
with
our
partners,
primarily
the
hotels
community.
We
did
weekly
hotel
meetings.
C
We
now
currently
do
a
monthly
hotel
meeting
and
send
them
bi-weekly
updates
via
email
on
things
that
we're
working
on,
and
you
know
any
other
things
that
are
may
impact
them
in
the
next
couple
of
weeks
within
the
community.
C
We
monitor
and
communicated
all
cancellations
to
all
of
our
partners,
facilitated,
postponed
events
and
really
tried
to,
instead
of
having
groups,
cancel,
really
encourage
them
to
just
postpone
and
rebook,
which
we
were
pretty
pretty
good.
With
doing
most
of
that,
there
are
still
a
lot
of
groups
that
just
totally
canceled,
but
we
are
hopes
in
hopes
that
they
will
come
back
eventually,
we
promote
it,
along
with
the
greater
des
moines
partnership,
the
hashtag
local
challenge,
supporting
our
local
restaurants,
retail
shops,
attractions,
etc.
C
We
came
out
with
a
hotel
bond
program,
which
was
very
successful.
We
had
35
hotels,
participate
in
that
program,
which
essentially
was
you
buy
a
hundred
dollar
bond
and
60
days
later,
that
bond
was
worth
150
dollars
for
your
stay
at
a
hotel
did
a
lot
in
supporting
local
resources
on
our
website.
Continue
to
do
so,
we
did
pull
off
our
des
moines
restaurant
week.
The
latter
part
of
august
of
last
year,
which
was
very
successful,
did
a
lot
of
new
videos
on
our
website.
C
If
you
haven't
seen
those
there
are
catch
des
moines.com
website,
including
a
lot
of
outdoor
activities
promoting
our
our
trail
systems
and
our
lakes
and
parks,
and
things
like
that,
we
found
out
early
on
that
people
didn't
want
to
travel,
but
they
wanted
to
stay
and
do
outdoor
type
activities
go
ahead
next
slide.
C
C
The
black
line
is
what
we're
currently
seeing
in
occupancy
this
year.
The
green
line
is
average
daily
rate
for
this
year
and
the
red
line
was
average.
Excuse
me,
the
red
line
was
occupancy
for
last
year
and
the
blue
line
was
the
average
daily
rate
for
last
year,
but
you
can
see
a
lot
of
peaks
and
valleys.
You
know
the
tough
part
hit
really
last
april,
where
we
really
dropped
in
occupancy
a
lot
of
the
major
hotels,
the
larger
hotels
in
the
city
and
really
the
metro
area
were
struggling
to
even
around
10
occupancy.
C
For
a
long
time,
a
lot
of
those
employees
are
still
laid
off
they're
slowly.
Coming
back,
you
know.
It's
estimated
that
in
central
iowa
alone
about
21
000
people
are
employed
in
our
industry
and
about
half
of
those
are
still
in
a
layoff
situation,
but
they
are
slowly
ticking
back,
we're
starting
to
see
some
upturn
in
the
occupancy.
Now
most
all
of
our
occupancy
is
based
on
either
activities
that
we're
getting
in
here
and
or
just
leisure
travel
people
wanting
to
get
away
and
spend
a
weekend.
C
Ironically,
our
weekend,
occupancies
have
been
higher
than
weekday,
which
is
pretty
unusual.
It's
the
business
travel
thing
that
still
just
really
is
hurting,
as
business
travel
still
does
not
bounce
back
yet
go
ahead.
C
We
did
a
good
job
with
our
budget
this
year,
coming
in
very
conservatively
kind
of
ahead
of
budget
right
now,
although
we
do
tend
to
see
this
last
quarter,
which
will
end
on
june
30
30
to
be
a
little
bit
down
from
what
we
budgeted,
but
we
still
should
be
just
fine
financially
and
what
we
budgeted
and
what
we're
spending
so
everything's
in
line
a
lot
of
new
strategies,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
that
we
placed
put
in
place
really
kept
in
touch
with
our
big
clients.
C
Constantly
we
have
a
national
planners
board
that
we've
met
with
at
least
every
couple
months,
keeping
them
in
touch
with,
what's
going
on
in
des
moines,
getting
their
feedback
on
what
they're
doing
with
their
associations
or
sports
groups
or
what
have
you.
C
We
have
had
some
some
good
opportunities
in
the
short
term.
We
have
booked
a
usa
gymnastics,
so
we
booked
a
huge
ua.
Excuse
me,
aau,
basketball,
tournament.
Later
this
summer,
working
still
on
a
big
horse
show
on
fairgrounds
another
big
basketball
tournament
that
we
actually
were
able
to
lock
in
here
last
summer
in
july,
we're
bringing
that
back
in
july
this
year,
the
nike
tournament
champions.
C
There
was
an
event
scheduled
for
the
mccormick
place
in
chicago
last
summer,
and
obviously
they
couldn't
do
it
in
illinois,
so
we
reached
out
and
and
extended
them
an
invite
to
come
here
and
it
that
worked
out
really
well.
Of
course,
the
lawrence
and
skatepark
events
you've
seen
all
the
good
news
on
that.
C
That's
going
to
be
a
great
event
with
the
due
tour
here
later
in
june
june,
and
we
also
just
booked
the
future
farmers
of
america
convention
that
had
been
in
ames
for
many
years
and
they
were
struggling
with
some
things
up
in
ames,
so
decided
to
come
back
to
des
moines.
So
that's
a
good
nice
little
piece
of
business
for
us
as
well.
C
C
junior
high
school
rodeo,
which
will
happen
later
in
june,
was
in
town,
the
ae
aau
group
jam
on
it
was
in
town
and
we
booked
a
big
ethanol
national
conference
in
july.
Actually
that
was
scheduled
to
be
in
minneapolis
this
summer
and
they
wanted
to
pull
out
of
minneapolis.
C
So
we
were
able
to
book
that
about
a
thousand
people
in
july,
which
was
a
nice
shot
in
the
arm
too,
so
to
speak.
Upcoming
events
are
still
holding
in
there
pool
players.
Regional
volleyball
ffa,
as
I
mentioned,
we're
going
to
host
the
naia
men's
volleyball
championships
in
des
moines
this
year
at
hyvee
hall
at
the
iowa
events
center.
Of
course,
drake
relays
are
scheduled
to
go
on
and,
I
think
you're
all
aware.
C
The
iron
man
is
scheduled
in
june,
as
well
as
world
pork
expo
the
junior
high
school
rodeo
youth
soccer,
the
president's
cup,
which
you
guys
helped
us
with
so
much-
will
take
place
at
county
soccer
facility
in
july
and
then
we're
hosting
the
big
international
lions,
clubs
of
america
and
canada.
Later
this
fall,
so
we
do
have
some
good
stuff
on
the
books.
C
Our
goal,
all
throughout
this
within
marketing,
was
to
really
inspire
travel
as
much
as
possible
for
the
future
and
to
really
keep
greater
des
moines
front
of
mind
and
people
did
a
lot
in
the
social
social
media
markets
really
cut
out
all
our
television
and
radio
ads
due
to
budget
cuts,
but
I'll
show
you
some
numbers
here
in
a
second,
our
content,
creation
and
content.
Advertising
all
shifted
as
well,
really
again
to
keep
des
moines
in
the
front
the
front
of
people's
minds
when
thinking
about
travel
in
the
future
go
ahead.
C
C
Results
were
very
good
in
all
of
this
effort.
You
can
see
these
results.
Our
media
views
we're
up
41
over
400
000
social
media
interactions,
we're
up
almost
80
percent.
Our
clicks
on
our
website
up
78.8
over
550
hours
of
youtube.
Videos
have
been
watched
just
last
year
and
our
blogs
were
up
42.4,
so
good
results.
C
A
lot
of
new
projects
throughout
the
metro,
we're
really
excited
about
all
of
these,
including
the
mid-american
energy
rec
plex
on
west
des
moines.
C
Of
course,
the
skate
park
is
going
to
be
a
a
big
big
boost
for
everybody
here
in
in
des
moines,
the
drake
des
moines
public
schools,
soccer
stadium,
will
hopefully
move
forward
the
grimes
project,
the
market
district
project
here
in
the
city,
the
central
iowa
water
trails
again
throughout
the
metro,
great
project,
the
johnston,
ignite
project,
another
sports
facility,
pro
iowa
soccer
stadium,
is
still
obviously
working
and
getting
some
legs.
C
The
buccaneers
project
at
merle,
hay,
mall
and
now
the
newly
announced
valley,
west
mall
project
as
well,
so
just
to
name
a
few
on
there.
B
D
Yeah
thanks
for
the
presentation
greg,
I
I've
got
a
couple
different
questions.
One
could
you
address?
You
know
some
of
the
the
bills
up
at
the
legislature
have
gotten
a
lot.
E
D
Attention
nationally
about
the
state
not
being
particularly
welcoming,
how
has
that
impacted
your
efforts
to
recruit
events?
I
I
mean
I
know.
For
example,
you
know
the
ncaa
pulled
out
of
north
carolina
over
similar
bills
that
were
being
considered
up
at
our
legislature.
I
know
that's
on
I
I
think
we've
got
what
2022
or
2023
for
the
the
basketball
tournament.
I
mean
what
what
impact
are
those
discussions
having
on
what
you're
trying
to
do.
C
Yeah,
you
know
we
keep
a
close
eye
on
that.
We
have
a
lobbyist
up
there,
actually
a
couple
obvious
one
works
actually
for
the
travel
industry
of
iowa
and
then
one
works
for
a
team
iowa
and
does
some
side
stuff
for
us,
but
yeah.
We
keep
a
close
eye
on
that.
We've
put
the
word
in
there
in
their
heads
that
you
know
these
would
affect
us
like
the
bathroom
bill
situation.
C
Probably
would
have
a
downturn
on
us
and
totally
opposing
that
so
yeah.
We
just
keep
an
eye
on
things
and
we
went
out.
Obviously
I
wouldn't
be
a
very
welcoming
state,
we're
known
as
iowa
nice
and
we
need
to
carry
that
forward.
G
C
Councilman,
I
don't
you
know
I've
I've
reached
out
recently
because
I
initially
they
were
going
to
open
in
june
and
now
I'm
just
hearing
kind
of
rumors
on
the
street.
I
have
not
been
able
to
to
reach
raj
patel
on
that
to
get
confirmation,
so
I
I
can't
tell
you
I
mean
they
were.
They
were
posed
to
open
this
summer,
but
I
don't
have
a
definitive
answer
for
him.
Sorry,.
G
C
Yeah,
I
think
they
have
a
couple
of
small
things
they
they
need
to
yet
put
into
place,
but
yeah,
I
think,
yeah
for
the
most
part
they're
ready
to
roll.
I
think
you
know
really
their
decision
not
to
open
was
probably
smart
on
their
behalf
plus,
it
would
add
another
280
rooms
to
the
inventory
downtown
during
this
pandemic
time,
so
I
think
they
just
have
been
moving
cautiously.
D
Is
so
greg,
you
know
you
you
mentioned
business
travel
is,
is
down
and
still
down
it.
You
know
it's
anyone's
guess
what
business
travel
will
will
look
like
after
after
we're
further
through
this
and
and
back
to
some
level
of
normalcy.
But
a
lot
of
folks
are
speculating
that
business
travel
is
going
to
be
down
some
percentage.
D
C
C
You
know
we'll
we'll
just
have
to
switch
strategies
and
and
start
trying
to
find
conventions
and
other
events
that
are
going
to
fill
those
mid-week
type
room
nights,
which
has
never
been
our
real
focus
in
the
past,
because
we've
always
focused
on
the
weekends
and
and
soft
time
periods,
but
yeah
we're
keeping
a
close
eye
on
that.
You
know,
I
think,
there's
still
a
lot
of
mixed
reviews
out
there.
C
What
you
hear
on
the
media
side,
you
know,
I
don't
know
that.
I
totally
agree
with
that.
I
think
people
and
we're
seeing
this
now
we're
seeing
pen
up
demand
that
people
are
really
willing
to
start
traveling
again
and
getting
out
especially
more
and
more
as
the
vaccines
get
in
people's
arms.
So
still
optimistic
on
that,
and
you
know
we
keep
in
touch
with
the
the
major
corporations
here
in
town
to
try
to
monitor
what
they're
doing
they're
still
not
doing
much.
Yet
they
say
by
maybe
the
third
fourth
quarter.
C
D
How
would
we
respond
if,
if
we
start
seeing
that
be
a
trend
I
mean
I
I
know
a
piece
of
it
would
be,
would
be
trying
to
get
conventions
to
to
fill
during
the
week,
but
everyone
is
going
to
be
using
that
same
strategy.
I
mean
what
else?
What
else
do
you
think
we
should
be
thinking
about
and
are
there
any
things
that
we
can
try
and
be
ahead
of
the
curve
and
thinking
about.
C
Yeah,
that's
a
that's
a
great
question.
Josh!
You
know
I
I
I
don't
know
what
to
tell
you
the
obviously
we
will
be
promoting
with
with
our
local
businesses.
Anyway,
you
know
to
to
bring
back
their
travel,
bringing
back
their
people
in
the
offices.
I
think
all
the
companies
know
that
how
much
they
do
help
restaurants.
In
particular,
you
look
at
the
restaurants,
downtown
they're,
not
open
for
lunch
right
now,
which
is
a
good
example
of
people
not
being
in
the
office.
So
yeah,
that's
a
great
question.
C
I
I
again,
I
don't
think
it's
gonna
drop
anywhere
near
75
percent,
but
it
is
a
situation.
We
need
to
look
into
and
focus
on.
B
Greg.
Thank
you
very
much
any
closing
remarks
you
want
to
make.
C
No,
I
will
just
say
mayor,
thank
you.
As
you
all
know,
mayor
serves
on
our
executive
board
and
has
been
very
active
with
us
ever
since
he's
come
on.
So
I
appreciate
his
his
input
and
I
hear
from
you
all
occasionally
via
email
or
text
message,
so
keep
in
touch,
keep
up
the
good
work
you
all
are
doing
and
we'll
continue
to
to
move
on
move
forward.
B
You
all
right,
let's
move
on
with
the
the
training
requirements,
I
believe,
malcolm
you
and
joshua
and
suanne,
I
think,
are
maybe
gonna
do
this,
but
turn
it
over
to
whoever's
going
to
lead
this.
A
Mayor
council
is
sue
donovan.
I'm
trying
to
share
my
screen
right
now.
F
F
This
morning,
we'll
be
doing
a
presentation
on
landlord
training
throughout
the
city,
and
this
training
suggestion
really
came
about
through
the
bridging
the
gap.
Work.
If
you
recall
in
2019,
one
of
the
biggest
concerns
of
of
the
city
was
actually
the
top
boat.
Getter
was
trying
to
create
more
stable
housing,
so
we
can
create
stable
communities
here
in
the
city
and
one
of
the
recommendations
from
the
2020
joint
meeting
was
a
landlord
training,
prop
fair
housing,
training
for
rental
property
certification.
F
After
after
making
that
recommendation
to
you
all
and
giving
the
green
light
to
move
forward
on
that,
we
were
able
to
meet
with
the
city
manager's
office,
who
made
the
recommendation
that
maybe
want
to
combine
neighborhood
inspections
into
this,
to
make
a
more
comprehensive
training
for
landlords
and
property
owners
who
rented
here
in
the
city
of
des
moines,
so
reached
out
with
suanne
donovan
chris
johansen,
and
they
actually
thought
it
was
a
great
idea
so
that
we
could
actually
move
towards
des
moines
becoming
a
community
free
from
discrimination
and
barriers
to
fair
housing.
F
So
why
rental
code
and
fair
housing
training?
The
goal
ultimately
is
to
improve
the
rental
stock
in
the
city,
and
the
focus
is
to
be
proactive
rather
than
reactive,
to
ensure
that
owners
and
managers
understand
what
is
understood
of
them
as
rental
property
owners
on
the
front
end,
to
reduce
complaints,
to
neighborhood
inspections
and
to
the
civil
human
rights
departments
by
tenants
on
the
back
end
and
improve
overall
service.
F
This
would
ensure
compliance
by
making
sure
they
understand
code
requirements
and
also
increase
accountability
through
successful
completion
of
the
training
program.
They'll
understand
what
responsible
property
maintenance
is?
F
F
Again,
some
of
the
topics
include
are
the
background
checks,
prevention
through
environmental
design,
eviction,
fair
housing
standards,
gangs
and
graffiti
property,
maintenance
standards
and
rental
agreements
from
the
fair
housing.
In
one
of
the
things
that
this
training
once
this
training
is
finalized,
we
would
introduce
them
to
what
the
civil
human
rights
department
does
kind
of
walk
them
through
the
history.
F
F
Again,
we
estimate
that
this
training
would
be
a
half
day
training,
so
fair
housing
mate
would
take
up
the
first
half
and
then
we
estimate
that
the
second
half
will
be
taken
up
by
neighborhood
inspections
and
I'll,
be
passing
it
over
to
sue
and
to
talk
about
the
neighborhood
inspections
portion.
A
A
Next
slide,
so,
basically
we'll
go
through
inspections
and
what
we're
going
to
require
what
our
inspectors
look
at
general
maintenance
on
the
exterior
general
maintenance
on
the
interior.
We
look
at
the
basement,
cellar,
the
foundation
of
the
house.
A
The
other
thing
that
we'll
want
to
talk
about
is
information
on
when
permits
will
be
required
and
what
the
permitting
process
is.
Inspections
on
fire
suppression
systems,
smoke,
alarms,
fire
extinguishers,
those
systems
that
need
to
be
up
to
code,
we'll
do
things
like
a
furnace.
Inspection
will
be
requested
to
make
sure
it's
functioning
properly,
just
the
general
upkeep
of
the
water
heaters
and
plumbing
systems
and
what
documentation
and
permits
will
be
required
to
assure
us
that
those
systems
are
working
correctly.
A
I
think
we're
just
about
done.
Joshua
is
the
next
slide
questions.
H
Mayor,
thank
you
suanne
question
about
the
crank
free,
multi-family
training.
Why?
Wouldn't
this
be
part
of
the
training?
Why
would
we
make
all
managers
and
landlords
come
back
and
do
it
again
a
different
time?
Why
wouldn't?
We
include
that,
as
part
of
this
thing
also.
E
H
Trying
very
important-
and
it's
been
somewhat
successful-
program
very
successful.
I.
A
I
think
it's
a
great
program
and
I
do
believe
it's
successful.
We
were
trying
to
keep
our
training
down
to
a
half
a
day
we
haven't
reached
well,
and
we
certainly
can
reach
out
to
the
police
department
and
see
if
they
have
the
capacity
to
be
part
of
the
training.
That's
a
good
idea,
I'm
not
discounting
it
at
all.
I
think
it's
a
great
program,
so
we
can
certainly
loop
them
in
see
if
they
have
the
capacity
to
be
part
of
our
training.
A
So
for
next
steps,
I
think
we
need
to
amend
chapter
60,
which
is
the
rental
code
in
connection
with
the
intergov
rollout.
A
So
we're
still
looking
for
the
computer
program
to
develop
the
online
portion,
we're
hoping
to
have
it
available
in
the
fall
of
this
year.
A
I
guess
I
said
2022
and
I
meant
2021
with
the
training
required
for
license
renewals
after
january
1st
of
2021,
so
we'll
start
rolling
it
out
over
the
summer
to
be
ready
by
fall.
Is
that
what
we're
anticipating.
G
Thank
you,
mayor
county,
so
the
program
that
shawna
operates
for
the
des
moines
police
department
isn't
that
for
lar
generally
for
larger
multi-family
units.
A
G
And
I
believe
that
if
a
manager
leaves
and
either
goes
to
a
different
building,
complex
or
a
different
property
owner
that
that
certification
travels
with
the
manager
if
they
change
jobs,.
G
All
right,
well
shauna,
has
an
excellent
reputation
in
the
des
moines
area,
but
she's,
just
like
one
person.
A
E
In
this
program
is,
did
you
say
this
training
is
mandatory
and
if
they
don't
take
it,
what
happens.
A
A
E
You
know
just
based
on
what
we've
seen
recently.
I
think
it's
pretty
important
that
we
make
sure
they
get
through
the
program
and
then
the
other
issue
is
how
many
times
we
inspect
and
all
the
things
that
we
will
be
doing
for
inspection
going
forward.
E
So
maybe
at
some
other
point
we
can
get
an
update
on
that,
how
the
inner
gut
will
work
and
how
it's
hopefully
will
make
it
a
more
successful
system
of
monitoring
these
rental
properties.
A
H
H
I
do
have
a
couple
questions.
Thank
you
just
to
follow
up
to
carl's
question.
Wouldn't
it
be
time,
wouldn't
it
help
if
they
did
the
crime
free
all
at
once
and
give
it
to
everybody
twice
a
year,
even
if
you're,
small,
small
or
you
have
just
a
two
or
one
unit,
it
would
be
nice
to
have
the
information
that
she's
giving
the
bigger
housing
projects
to
also
the
smaller
ones.
This
would
be
a
way
that
everybody
would
have
the
same
treatment
and
same
information
throughout
the
throughout
the
whole
entire
city.
A
I
think
the
idea
is
to
have
a
portion
of
the
training
cover
those
points
that
are
also
covered
in
the
the
police
training
on
sort
of
a
high
level.
So
everybody
understands
what
those
points
are,
but
if
they
want
to
delve
in
deeper
they
can
go.
Take
the
training
through
the
police
department
but,
like
I
said,
we
can
certainly
work
with
shauna
on
how
she
wants
to
manage
them.
F
And
and
I'll
add
that
you
know
the
crime-free
multi-family
housing
is
not
required.
There
are
certain
cities,
such
as
dubuque,
that
has
made
it
a
requirement
and
a
part
of
and
incorporated
into
a
lot
of
what
we're
talking
about
and
some
of
the
in
the
crime.
Free
multi-family
housing
focuses
not
just
on
policing,
but
it
also
adds
fire
safety
and
other
portions
as
well.
I
mean
our
office
presents,
but
it's
very
because
they
cover
so
much
is
is
very
short.
F
This
training
would
expand
upon
that
and
if
you
added
the
crime-free
part
that
may
make
it
a
full
day,
if
that's
something,
that's
a
discussion
that
we
can
have.
But
presently
the
crime
free
in
the
city
is
not
required
for
all
rental
properties
here
in
the
city,
but
it
is
a
possibility
to
incorporate
it
like
a
number
of
other
cities
have
done
around
the
country
in
regards
to
the
training.
H
Yeah
I
appreciate
that
I
know
that
it's
not
required.
I
think
it's
highly
suggested
and
I
think
it's
successful
and
I
think
most
of
the
larger
multi-family
housing
projects
the
managers
have
gone
through
it.
It
would
be
sure
nice,
the
individual
homes
or
duplexes,
and
that
are
sitting
in
the
middle
of
our
neighborhood
having
the
same
problems
or,
if
not
worse,
because
the
the
landlords
haven't
had
that
training.
That's
where
I
think
we
would.
It
would
become
a
benefit
that
we
offer
that
training
all
at
once.
H
At
the
same
time,
whether
we
can
cut
it
down
to
a
half
a
day.
I
like
the
idea
of
doing
an
online
training.
I
guess
my
next
question
would
be
what's
the
cost
and
is
that
going
to
be
included
in
the
license
fee
or
the
rental
fee
license
going
forward
as
they
get
there
as
they
get
their
rental
license.
Is
this
training
going
to
be
included
in
the
fee,
just
an
additional
fee
that
you
tacked
on
to
it.
A
A
That's
a
that
is
a
conversation
again.
I
hate
to
keep
kicking
things
down
the
road,
but
we
have
already
started
internally
discussing
and
we'll
be
bringing
back.
When
I
do
a
presentation
on
the
the
rollout
for
the
code
amendments
that
are
sort
of
led
by
intergov,
we
were
going
to
talk
about
that
during
the
discussion
on
fees.
H
F
D
Thanks
mayor
yeah,
I
I
wanted
to
ask
if
there's
currently
anything
related
to
to
energy
efficiency
that
we're
going
to
be
providing
any
education
or
or
sort
of
technical
resources
to
to
landlords
during
this
training
and
and
if
not,
could
we
think
about
what
we
could
do
to
to
add
that
to
this
minimally?
This
is,
I
think,
an
opportunity
to
get
in
front
of
landlords
and
get
them
thinking
about
what
they
can
do
from
an
energy
efficiency
perspective,
and
we
know
that
the
utility
burden
is
is
significant,
particularly
in
rental
properties.
D
When
we
improve
efficiency,
I
think
we
also
know
that
that
improves
the
likelihood
that
the
tenants
going
to
be
paying
their
rent
because
their
utilities
are
lower,
and
this
is
a
good
opportunity.
A
A
They
will
inevitably
pass
whatever
improvements
required
onto
the
tenants
through
increased
rent
it'd,
be
interesting
to
see
if
the
increased
rent
is
is
balanced
out
by
lower
utility
costs,
and
I
certainly
think
that
we
need
to
look
at
that
at
this
point,
though,
it
is
not
anticipated
to
be
part
of
this
training,
although
we
might
be
able
to
put
in
a
sort
of
a
information
about
energy
efficiency
right.
D
That
that's
what
I
was
asking
about.
I
wasn't
at
this
point
asking
about
any
new
requirements,
but
as
we're
giving
landlords
resources,
certainly
making
sure
they're
aware
of,
for
example,
the
mid-american
programs,
perhaps
providing
some
general
education
about
the
value
of
landlords,
implementing
energy
efficiency
and
letting
them
make
decisions.
Based
on
that,
I
I
mean
it
might
be
valuable
to
engage
jeremy
karen
and
and
see
if
he
has
any
thoughts
or
is
aware
of
some
best
practices
from
elsewhere.
D
B
All
right
joe
apologize
did,
I
cut
you
off.
H
Well,
that's
fine!
I
just
going
back
to
the
fees.
I
just
think
it's
important
that
we
that
we
look
at
it
as
one
fee
included
for
all
of
it,
no
matter
what
we're
going
to
do,
because,
just
as
suanne
had
just
pointed
out
to
josh
everything
that
we
do
is
going
to
be
passed
on
to
the
tenant,
there's
no
landlord,
that's
going
to
eat
this
cost,
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
be
aware
whatever
we
do
we're
either.
You
know
we're
increasing
rent.
H
By
doing
this
now,
we're
also
increasing
some
really
good
things
that
that
should
be
part
of
it
for
our
neighborhoods
and
for
the
tenants.
But
we
need
to
be
very
aware
that
whatever
we
do
whatever
fee
it
is
it's
going
to
be
passed
directly
on
to
the
tenant.
B
All
right,
scott,
any
josh
is
your
hand
still
up.
B
F
No
mayor,
I
think
this
is
just
good
good
guidance.
A
For
us
to
bring
this
over
the
finish
line,.
B
Yeah
all
right
good,
well
thank
everybody
for
attending
this
morning
and
want
to
thank
greg
for
his
presentation
and
joshua
barr
and
suanne
and
malcolm
for
the
work
here
on
this
rental
training
program
just
for
everybody's
understanding,
moving
into
city
council
tonight
we
don't
have
a
closed
session
today
and
but
for
everybody
remember
we
have
a
our
housing
meeting.
Is
gonna
start
at
4
15..
So
thank
you
all
for
attending
this
morning
and
see
you
about
4
15.
have
a
great
day.