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From YouTube: 4-1-21 Plan & Zoning Commission
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Des Moines Plan & Zoning Commission meeting via teleconference on Thursday, April 1, 2021.
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The
plan
and
zoning
commission
is
generally
an
advisory
body
to
the
city
council.
The
city
council
will
hold
a
public
hearing
and
make
the
final
decision
on
all
matters
before
the
commission
and
other
site
plans
and
subdivision
plats.
Unless
denials
or
conditional
approvals
thereof
are
appealed.
Please
contact
the
city,
clerk
or
community
development
department
staff
at.
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Wish
to
materials
not
already
submitted
with
the
application,
please
email
them
to
planning
dmgob.org,
so
a
staff
host
may
be
able
to
share
them
on
the
screen.
When
you
present
proponents,
and
then
opponents
from
the
public
are
then
allowed
to
speak
in
that
order
with
each
speaker
allowed
a
maximum
of
five
minutes,
staff
has
attempted
to
compile
a
list
of
people
who
would
like
to
speak
on
each
item.
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Staff
will
first
call
on
these
people
and
then
we'll
open
it
up
to
anyone
else.
Who
wishes
to
speak
to
request
to
speak
during
the
hearing.
Please
use
the
raise
hand,
function
on
zoom,
webinar
via
internet
or
dial
star
9
on
your
phone.
Once
permission
to
speak
is
given
to
unmute
and
mute
dial
star
6
on
your
phone.
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Thank
you
item
number
12
and
13
have
both
been
recommended
to
be
continued
to
the
may
6th
meeting
item.
12
is
a
request
from
menard
for
the
property
located
at
5907,
southeast
8th
street
and
801
hart
avenue,
and
we
can
do
these
in
one
single
motion.
Number
13
is
request
from
tk
development,
llc
owner
for
review
and
approval
of
a
third
amendment
at
the
south
woods
estate
in
the
vicinity
of
5730
rose
avenue.
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Hey
madam
chair,
this
is
bert
drost
with
the
city's
planning
staff.
If
mainer.
If
I
may
interject
on
item
number
12,
our
staff
recommendation
in
the
packet
was
recommending
continuance
till
april
15th.
However,
they
do
need
to
submit
some
additional
documentation
that
we
have
not
received
yet,
and
that
is
why
we
are
now
recommending
it
be
continued
to
may
6
instead
of
april
15th.
As
previously
noted.
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I
Chair
members
of
commission
jason
van
nessen
with
the
city's
planning
staff,
just
give
me
a
second
here
to
switch
the
screen
to
my
presentation.
There
we
go,
I
think
it
pulled
through.
This
item
was
continued
from
the
march
4th
meeting
I'll
try
to
I'll
be
streamlined
with
my
presentation
here
I
before
I
get
started.
I
do
want
to
just
acknowledge
that
justin
raymond
and
thank
you
for
meeting
with
staff.
As
you
may
recall
this
item,
we,
as
you
can
see
on
the
actually
the
agenda
list.
I
You
can
see
several
items
struck
out
and
you
can
see
that
there
was
a
long
list
of
relief
that
was
requested
when
he
met
with
us.
He
had
done
a
fair
amount
of
work
came
to
us
with
you
know,
kind
of
trying
to
address
the
concerns
that
the
commission
raised,
and
I
appreciate
his
effort,
and
it
certainly
is
leading
to
me
being
able
to
give
you
a
very
brief
presentation.
I
So
the
only
thing
I
would
add
is
that
we
did
have
to
add
one
additional
point
of
relief,
which
was
to
add
some
side
yard
setback
relief,
and
that
has
to
do
with
how
the
house
is
going
to
be
ordered
and
I'll
show
that
to
you
here
in
a
minute.
So
this
is
the
subject
property
on
the
east
side
of
the
street.
I
I
irregularly
shaped
a
couple.
I'm
not
gonna
spend
a
lot
of
time
giving
you
photographs,
but
what
I
will
do
is
jump
to
this
sheet.
Here
shows
the
site
plan,
as
you
saw
it
at
the
last
meeting
with
the
house
was,
was
gonna
sit,
sideways,
really
wasn't
going
to
have
a
front
presence
that
we
would
expect,
and
that
really
was
leading
to
a
lot
of
need
for
relief.
I
This
is
the
new
proposal,
the
it's
the
same
model
I'd
be
oriented
towards
the
street.
The
long
way
the
driveway
would
move
a
shed
is
proposed
now,
and
I
don't
want
to
speak
for
justin,
but
that
he
felt
that
would
fit
into
his
budget
did
have
there
had
been
a
door
that
was
going
to
be
on
a
side
facade.
It
worked
with
the
manufacturer
to
get
that
relocated
to
the
rear,
so
that
created
some
flexibility.
I
I
I
Just
some
graphics,
since
our
last
meeting
he
did
provide
some
extra
images
showing
the
some
of
the
detail
that
would
be
provided
in
the
front
with
shutters
there.
This
doesn't
exactly
show
a
light
fixture,
but
it
there
is
intended
to
be
a
light
fixture,
and
this
is
the
mount
for
it.
That
would
come
so
there
would
be
a
light
fixture
in
the
front,
giving
a
little
articulation
an
updated
sketch
for
his
front
deck.
So
he
wouldn't
have
a
porch
in
the
sense
it'd
be
rough,
but
a
deck
would
be
provided.
I
I
I
We
felt
that
it
was
important
to
kind
of
bring
that
to
your
attention
and
see
what
your
thoughts
were
on
on
improving
this
and
so
the
way
we've
written.
This
is
we're
suggesting
you
know
some
sort
of
element
like
that
should
be
provided
unless
the
commission
determines
that
it's
not
reasonable
to
require
it.
In
this
particular
case,
I
do
think
the
setting
in
the
environment
is
a
little
is
unique
in
this
neighborhood.
It
is
a
rural
cross-section.
I
I
Consent
map
just
anecdotally
the
neighbor
to
the
south-
that
would
be
most
impacted
by
the
new
relief
needed
for
the
setback
is
related
to
the
applicant.
So
I
think
they've
got
that
sorted
out,
but
I'm
happy
you're
answering
questions
you
have
for
me.
I
know
I
saw
justin's
name
in
the
list
of
attendees,
so
we
certainly
can
turn
things
over
to
him
as
well.
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I
I
just
I
was
wanting
to
just
make
sure
that
the
commission
had
an
opportunity
to
to
weigh
in
on
that
and
if,
if
there's
no
concerns
on
your
part,
I
would
just
move
approval
of
the
staff
wreck
and
strike
that
that
condition
other
you
know
approval
ball
striking
that.
So
let
me
switch
that
I'm
sorry
when
I,
when
I
lost
my
internet
connection
there
briefly,
it
totally
threw
me
off.
I
We
have
a
vpn
connection
that
it
just
recently
made
it'll,
kick
you
off
after
so
many
hours
and
it
I
wasn't,
wasn't
prepared
for
that
so
on.
I
would
if,
if
the
commission
is
comfortable
with
the
proposal,
I
would
move
staff
recommendation,
but
on
part
f,
I
would
strike
the
the
conditions.
So
just
say:
approval
of
part
f,
as
proposed.
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Okay
good
evening,
everyone
again,
this
next
item
on
the
agenda,
is
a
request
for
type
2
design,
alternatives
to
allow
construction
of
an
addition,
a
pool
house
and
an
in-ground
pool
at
the
subject
side,
which
is
a
residential
property
at
4841
algonquin
road.
The
three
requests
are
really
for
total
side
yard
setback
requirement.
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P
As
you
can
see
here,
the
property
is
the
building.
Existing
building
sits
right
on
the
property
line
on
the
west,
and
this
will
come
into
play
a
little
later
in
the
presentation.
But
I
just
wanted
you
to
be
aware
that
the
property
that
the
existing
building
sort
of
sits
on
and
over
the
property
line.
P
P
The
applicant
is
proposing
a
master
suite
edition
on
the
north
east
corner
of
the
existing
house.
It
would
be
built
without
a
basement
and
an
east
side
yard
setback
of
10.46
feet.
Well,
the
proposal
meets
the
7.5
foot,
minimum
requirement
for
interior
side
yards
setback.
On
the
one
side.
It
does
not
meet
the
total
side,
yard
setback
of
22.5
feet
and
the
existing
house
here
sits
on
and
over
the
property
line
to
the
west
and
is
considered
as
a
zero
setback
on
the
west.
P
P
This
is
the
facade.
This
is
the
facade
that
would
be
visible
to
the
property
owner
on
the
north,
and
this
would
be
the
elevation
of
the
facade
that
would
be
visible
from
the
applicant's
property
and
the
house
a
section.
The
section
here
shows
just
a
section
across
the
pool
house
which
shows
a
shed
like
roof
that
would
be
sloped
away
from
the
rest
from
the
applicant's
property
and
would
be
sloped
towards
the
north
property
line.
Here.
This
portion
here
would
be
part
of
the
north
property
owner.
P
As
I
mentioned
earlier,
this
property
owner
has
an
easement
with
the
city
up
here
on
the
west,
which
allows
a
portion
of
the
existing
house
and
a
portion
of
the
driveway
to
sit
on
city-owned
land.
This
is
essentially
what
is
creating
that
zero
setback
that
I
spoke
about
earlier,
which
affects
the
total
setback
that
comes
into
play
on
the
a
request,
more
pictures.
P
P
P
P
The
project
manager
has
also
submitted
a
narrative
with
the
application
which
basically
cites
the
need
for
reasonable
space
around
the
pool
for
movement
and
the
northeast
side
of
the
property,
being
the
most
feasible
spot
for
the
addition
which
would
affect
the
setback.
And.
Lastly,
the
fact
that
the
existing
house
is
built
with
a
basement
and
the
family
would
like
to
not
add
increased
expense
of
providing
one
under
the
edition.
P
The
addition,
as
has
been
proposed
to
be
built
with
again,
like
I
said,
be
built
with
designing
materials
that
match
the
existing
house,
so
staff
believes
the
lack
of
basement
on
the
addition
would
not
have
any
sort
of
negative
impact
on
either
the
house
or
the
neighborhood,
but
in
fact
would
work.
Well.
With
blending
and
meeting
the
intent
of
the
code
staff
is
recommending
denial
of
the
zero
setback
on
the
pool
house.
P
F
Yeah
this
is
greg.
What
today
I
got
a
question
for
staff.
I
think
one
of
the
concerns
I
would
have
with
the
pool
building
is
the
way
the
roof
is
designed:
dumping,
water
ice
and
snow
on
the
adjacent
property.
I
don't
know
the
grading
back
there.
I
don't
know
how
any
of
that
works,
but,
generally
speaking,
it's
not
a
good
idea
to
add
impervious
roof
and
dump
it
on
someone
else's
property.
F
So
that
would
be
a
concern,
and
I
wonder
if
staff
I
didn't
really
hear
you
talk
about
that.
If
that
was
discussed
with
the
applicant,
the
other
issue
would
be
if
you
build
on
a
property
line,
just
fire
ratings
and
things,
but
it
looks
like
they're
well
on
their
way.
If
they
build
a
block
wall,
the
building
permit
would
figure
that
out.
Can
you
address
water,
drainage.
P
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P
So
yes,
as
a
matter
of
consistency,
I
think
that
as
well
as
challenges
with
maintenance,
those
are
two
of
the
key
pieces
that
staff
is
sort
of
using
it
to
recommend
denial.
But
I
think
with
the
meeting
of
the
fire
code
and
any
other
conditions
that
the
commission
might
consider
to
weigh
in
while
making
this.
A
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Q
We're
trying
to
just
allow
the
schooly
family
to
have
everything
that
they're
desiring
here
and
obviously,
as
a
as
a
builder,
be
conscious
of
how
it
impacts
the
neighbors
and
everything
that's
involved
with
that.
Obviously,
the
new
drawings,
with
the
proposed
zero
setback
on
the
pool
house,
show
the
the
firewall
which
we're
conscious
of
and
making
sure
to
adhere
to
the
in
the
fire
issues
there.
Q
Q
I
mean
it's
obviously
a
challenging
lot
in
and
of
itself,
but
most
of
the
water
from
the
neighbor
to
the
north
and
the
neighbor
to
the
east
actually
kind
of
sheds
to
the
schoolies
property,
as
it
is
so
just
the
way.
The
the
shape
of
the
land
is
back
there
and
the
way
everything
drains
it
kind
of
all
wants
to
drain
towards
that
west
corner
towards
waveland
golf
course
down
there
to
the
southwest
corner.
Q
So
our
intent,
we've
got
a
overall
drainage
plan
in
place
with
gutters,
and
even
the
schoolies
house
currently
has
some
inadequacies.
As
far
as
that
goes
so,
we've
got
a
plan
in
place
just
from
the
overall
property
perspective,
with
the
amount
of
concrete
in
the
pool,
et
cetera,
that's
going
in
the
backyard
to
make
sure
that
water
stream
properly.
So
we're
very
conscious
of
that.
Q
I
think
in
the
end,
with
the
yard
being
what
it
is
and
the
ability
to
get
the
pool
and
the
pool
house
and
the
addition
and
everything
fit
onto
the
lot
to
where
it
makes
sense.
From
a
spacing
perspective,
the
idea,
with
moving
the
pool
house
back,
that
extra
two
and
a
half
feet,
was
just
to
allow
a
little
more
room
around
the
pool,
maybe
allow
another
foot
and
size
of
the
the
pool
house
and
just
overall
allow
for
a
little
bit
more
space
to
make
everything
back
there.
Q
A
bit
more
functional,
so
appreciate
the
concerns
that
were
brought
up
happy
to
address
anything
else.
That
does
come
up
if
corey's,
on
the
call
he's
welcome
to
chime
in
here
too,
but
just
wanted
to
address
from
a
construction
standpoint
that
we're
taking
all
those
things
into
consideration
and
planning
effectively
up
front
before
construction
starts,
to
make
sure
that
we're
handling
everything
effectively.
So
that
is
all
I
have.
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D
D
Yes
go
ahead?
Okay!
First
of
all,
thank
you
anu
great
great
explanation
of
the
conversation
and
some
of
the
mitigating
factors
that
we're
putting
in
place
for
the
drainage
and
the
property
line,
and
thank
you
jason
for
providing
that
detail
as
well.
We
take
a
lot
of
time
to
plan
this
proper
to
plan
this.
D
So
I
know
that
the
easement
has
already
been
has
kind
of
been
called
out
already
we're
working
with
ben
page
over
the
parks
department
to
with
some
further
details
with
that.
So
I'm
really
trying
to
build
a
relationship
here
with
the
parks
and
with
this
you
know
the
back
of
the
pool
house.
That
close,
I
guess
I
just
want
to
be
clear:
there's
a
property
line
and
we're
really
going
to
follow
the
fence
line.
D
But
I
also
want
to
say
that
you
know
I
worked
with
the
city
pretty
extensively
over
the
past
year,
I
made
sure
to
inform
the
wayland
park,
neighborhood
genie
alexander
over
there
last
year
about
our
plan,
and
you
know
I
think
I
think
that's
it.
I
just
I'd
really
like
to
be
able
to
utilize
that
extra
square
footage,
so
just
like
the
the
opportunity
to
do
that.
So
thanks
for
your
time
today-
and
I
think
that's
it-.
H
F
F
O
There
dory
this
is
greg
jones.
I
agree
with
the
the
other
greg
I
I
don't
know
what
the
number
is.
That's
why
I
asked
what
staff
would
would
agree
to.
I
think
five
feet
is
way
more
than
enough,
but
I
think
zero
is
not
enough
and
so
whether
it's
two
and
a
half,
I
think,
that's
more
than
adequate
to
tell
you
the
truth,
but
I
certainly
would
be
happier
with
some
number
between
two
and
a
half
and.
S
S
N
Dory
this
is
will
page
here.
I
don't
know
if
jen's
still
talking
or
not,
but
she
can
butt
in
if
she,
if
she,
if
she
wishes
to,
I,
I
tend
to
think
that
the
property
owner
has
already
agreed
to
2.5,
and
that
is
a
number
between
what
greg
jones
was
suggesting
and
also
it
would
go
along
with
what
greg
wadia
suggested.
H
C
J
C
A
H
Yes,
madam
chair
eric
lendy
senior
city
planner,
so
this
is
a
follow-up
on
behalf
of
fairway
stores
to
further
the
project.
They
recently
re
zoned
the
balance
of
their
site
a
while
and
that's
in
the
zoning
history,
but
to
the
mx3
that
allowed
them
then
to
go
to
the
board
of
adjustment
and
request
the
ability
to
have
a
conditional
use
for
sale
of
liquor,
wine
and
beer
for
off-premise
consumption
and
in
the
review
of
their
site
plan.
H
So
if
you
see
the
map
here,
I'm
showing
the
existing
mx3
portion
initially,
they
had
proposed
a
drive
in
this
location
that
would
and-
and
they
were
of
the
hope
that
traffic
would
allow
a
median
connection
here
or
cut
through
here.
So
property
could
go
westbound
on
urbandale
leaving
the
site
since
that
did
not
occur.
H
And
that
didn't
look
very
realistic
that
traffic
engineering
was
going
to
support
that
then
they've
since
made
offer
with
this
property
owner
to
have
a
rezoning
of
this
property
to
incorporate
that
into
the
site
that
would
allow
them
a
drive
on
onto
41st
place.
That
would
then
allow
the
median
cut
at
the
intersection
of
41st
place
with
urbandale
avenue.
H
H
H
Store
this
is
a
general
layout
that
they
are
wanting
to
allow
this
drive
entrance
on
to
41st
place
by
rezoning
the
property
to
incorporate
it
into
the
site.
That
would
change
their
circulation
internally
to
what
I'm
doing
right
now,
and
they
would
still
use
the
north
south
alley
and
still
have
that
egress
for
a
right.
Basically,
a
ride
out
right
in
only.
H
H
Based
on
that
staff
is
supportive
of
the
future
land
use
amendment
and
rezoning
to
incorporate
it
into
that
site.
You
are
going
to
also
get
the
site
plan
in
front
of
you
at
a
on
a
future
meeting.
I
believe
that,
actually,
on
the
next
plan
and
zoning
commission
meeting
for
the
actual
site
consideration
with
a
couple
of
design
alternatives,
so
just
to
give
you
that
heads
up
staff
is
recommending
approval
of
the
rezoning
from
n4
to
mx3.
H
H
H
H
H
F
F
H
F
H
H
U
So
with
that,
I
just
wanted
to
thank
the
group
and
let
everyone
know
I'm
here
to
answer
any
questions
on
behalf
of
fairway
and
we
also
have
tim
schneider
from
tim
west
here
with
schneider
associates,
who
can
kind
of
assist
if
there's
questions
on
specific
site
plan
questions.
So
with
that
I'll
I'll
answer,
any
questions
you
guys
have
thanks.
F
Hello,
this
is
greg.
What's
here,
I
wouldn't
mind,
seeing
a
site
plan
again
and
having
someone
explain,
deliveries
in
and
out
kind
of
trucks,
how
big
of
trucks
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
I
know
what
these
smaller
stores,
sometimes
you
guys
max
outside
the
truck,
and
if
you
could
explain
that
that
would
be
just
how
they
would
navigate
to
the
building
and
from
the
building.
U
Yeah,
I
think
the
intent
there
is
the
alleyway
access
that
would
be
kind
of
designated
for
and
required
for
the
commercial
traffic,
and
that's
mostly
to
avoid
any
of
that
truck
traffic
or
delivery
traffic
from
going
on
the
residential
area.
So
that's
kind
of
why
it's
it's
important,
I
think
we're
planning
on
making
sure
we
have
something
designated,
no
commercial
traffic
on
that
access
point
too,
and
as
far
as
size
of
trucks
for
deliveries,
this
would
not
be
our
full
semis
like
you'd,
see
at
a
typical
fairway.
U
F
I
I
A
I
V
H
V
V
V
V
V
V
V
I
would
like
to
be
able
to
contact
fairway
when
I
see
a
service
vehicle
except
I
don't
want
to
call
fairway
since
the
service
vehicle
is
coming
through
and
bothering
us
residentially.
I
want
the
residential
phone
numbers
of
people
from
fairway,
so
I
can
call
them
and
to
serve
them
at
their
residences.
V
The
house
that
they're
buying
it's
a
1938
beaverdale
brick,
it
was
purchased
in
1966.,
the
young
lady
who
lives
there
since
then
has
lived
there
since
1966
very
nice
person,
whatever
whatever
the
whatever
the
proposal
was
to
her.
I
don't
know-
and
it's
none
of
my
business,
but
I
do
know
that
it's
affecting
the
rest
of
the
neighborhood,
particularly
the
red
site
across
the
street,
every
car
that
comes
out
of
that
parking
lot.
All
the
headlights
go
right
to
that.
Go
right
to
that
house.
V
M
My
name
is
liz
sizer
and
I
live
at
4600
crestmoor
drive
des
moines
iowa.
I
am
a
long
time
beaverdale
resident
and
am
very
familiar
with
this
area
and
this
street,
because
I
walk
in
the
heart
of
beaverdale
periodically,
and
my
objection
is
to
this
new
access
point
on
to
41st
place,
which
is
a
very
small
street
residential
classic
architecture
that
goes
back
to
the
beginning
of
beaverdale,
and
even
if
it's
just
people
in
their
cars
taking
that
shortcut
onto
41st
or
service
vehicles
or
even
larger
vehicles,
that
is
going
to
be
majorly.
M
Disruptive
to
this
little
street,
I
attended
the
quarterly
meeting
of
the
bna
when
the
site
plan
was
first
put
forth
and,
like
the
speaker
before
me,
I
was
supportive
of
the
concept
of
the
meat
market.
That
fairway
was
planning
because
the
emphasis
was
on
minimal
to
no
impact
on
the
neighborhood.
Well,
this
is
a
historic
neighborhood
and
this
will
have
major
impact
and
if
there's
going
to
be
a
meat
market
here,
the
access
points
should
be
limited
to
urbandale
and
beaver,
and
the
the
needs
of
this
authentic,
historic,
neighborhood
neighborhood
should
be
preserved.
A
I
W
If
all
of
our
concerns
do
come
to
life
once
the
property
is
taken
down
and
the
traffic
will,
as
we
expect
come
on
41st,
then
there
will
no
way
to.
There
will
be
no
way
to
go
back
to
the
way
it
was
before.
It
will
change
the
character
of
the
street,
which
is
fully
residential.
It
will
be
partially
commercial
and
I
don't
know
what
what
remedy
will
be.
W
A
U
Go
ahead,
kobe,
I'm
back
on!
Yes,
okay!
Thank
you,
yeah
thanks.
Thanks
for
the
comments,
I'll
touch
on
a
couple
things,
I
think
maybe
the
best
way
to
do
it
is
just
kind
of
walk
through
where
it
started
and
how
it
got
to
where
it
is
now.
I
think
david's
comments
on
you
know.
Maybe
feeling
like
there
was
a
bait
and
switch,
I
mean.
Obviously,
things
have
changed
from
the
first
sight
plan
to
the
second
one,
but
that
was
never
really.
U
We
were
also
getting
other
cycling
comments
to
where
we
were
losing
some
parking
stalls
and
as
we
started
thinking
about
how
this
is
going
to
look
with
just
one
access
off
of
onto
urbandale
and
reduced
parking.
There
were
just
some
major
questions
internally
on
whether
it
made
sense
to
move
forward
and
and
get
everybody
comfortable
with
that
concept,
because
I
think
everyone
agrees.
This
is
a
really
really
creative
parcel
and
we
really
want
to
wanted
to
make
this
work.
U
So
the
next
step
was
incorporating
that
next
piece
and
running
it
through
traffic
and
transportation.
Okay,
if
we
can't
do
this
this
and
this,
would
this
be
an
option
and
as
you
can
see,
it
adds
more
stalls,
it
adds
the
access
point
on
the
41st
and
tim.
If
you
want
to
comment
on
this,
we're
going
to
try
to
do
everything
we
can
to
buffer
those
immediate
neighbors
from
that
access
point
on
the
41st,
whether
it's
extra
trees,
whether
it's
extra
bushes,
a
berm.
U
Those
are
all
things
we're
working
through,
but
our
plan
is
to
diminish
that
effect
as
much
as
we
can
we're
also
trying
to
do
that
by
keeping
the
41st
street
point
as
close
to
the
intersection
as
possible.
So
I
know
it's
kind
of
been
a
long
process
and
adding
this
extra
layer,
but
just
kind
of
a
little
bit
of
background
on
why
we
got
to
where
we
are,
and
it
was
not
the
intent
to
go
this
way,
but
unfortunately
it
just
got
to
the
point
where
we
had
to
consider
it.
X
But
yeah
good
evening,
tim
westwood,
I'm
a
landscape
architect
with
snyder
and
associates
2727
southwest
snyder
boulevard
in
ankeny
iowa.
We
have
submitted
another
round
of
site
plan,
design
or
city
staff
to
review.
We
are
including
a
significant
amount
of
landscaping
and
ornamental
or
decorative
fencing
along
the
right
of
way
to
screen
the
parking
stalls
from
the
public
view.
We
also
have
added
in
three
trees
along
that
along
the
frontage
area
between
the
parking
and
the
street
and
then
there's,
of
course,
other
landscaping
that
goes
around
the
perimeter
of
the
parking
lot.
X
X
We
didn't
want
to
move
that
towards
the
south
and
impact
any
additional
neighbors
or
any
sort
of
movements
that
might
take
it
further
to
the
south.
So
we've
tried
to
work
with
city
staff
to
minimize
any
disturbances,
yet
still
be
able
to
access
urbandale
avenue
to
the
west
and
allow
patrons
to
fairway
to
be
able
to
get
out
and
go
back
home
if
they
live
to
the
west.
A
O
To
me,
this
is
a
leap
too
far.
It
was
already
iffy
to
me
with
the
drive
through
the
way
they
had
it.
This
is
no
longer
an
urban
solution.
This
is
suburban
solution
and
beaverdale
is
an
urban
place,
taking
the
house
down
and
and
running
a
driveway
through
there.
It's.
You
know,
one
more
house:
it's
it's
like
a
death
by
a
thousand
cuts.
O
O
People
will
drive
around
the
block.
I
mean
you're,
going
to
beaverdale
you're
used
to
that
to
me,
I
don't
I,
I
don't
think
they
need
it
again,
that's
just
my
opinion,
but
but
it
seems
that
the
business
owners
can
only
see
one
thing
and
it's
give
us
all
the
possible
ways
in
because
someone
might
have
to
to
do
something
else,
we're
all
used
to
that.
I
I
live
in
the
beaverdale
area.
It's
no
big
deal
go
to
the
hardware
store.
O
N
N
When
I
go
to
beaverdale
for
my
eye
exam,
I
know
that
it's
going
to
take
a
little
bit
of
time
because
I
park
in
the
space
where
the
pumps
at
one
time
were.
I
know
that
I'm
going
to
have
to
take
a
little
time
to
get
there
and
to
park
the
car
and
after
the
exam.
I
know
it's
going
to
take
me
a
little
while
to
go
out
of
the
lot
and
to
find
a
place
to
get
onto
the
street.
N
N
K
Dory
this
is
abby.
I
just
want
to
sort
of
agree
and
reiterate
what
both
greg
and
will
said,
and
my
initial
thought
was:
it's
not
conducive
to
the
character
of
this
neighborhood
and
it's
not
the
type
of
commercial
hub
that
needs
to
be
expanding
into
a
residential
area
and
it's
more
of
a
pedestrian
retail
area,
and
I
think
that
that
would
sort
of
continuing
that
little
creep
development
creep
would
continue
to
chip
away
at
that
character.
T
Hey
dory,
this
is
rocky.
You
know:
we've
had
situations
like
this,
with
convenience
stores
coming
in
front
of
us
before
and
neighbors
upset,
and
I'm
kind
of
on
the
opposite
side
of
this.
I
think
that
the
applicant
and
staff
have
done
a
real
good
job
of
of
trying
to
make
this
site
functional
and
work
for
everyone,
and
I
actually
support
staff
on
this
and
would
be
willing
to
make
a
motion
to
move
staff.
F
F
F
That
the
first
one,
I
think,
is
pretty
self-explanatory
about
commercial
vehicles.
The
second
is,
you
can
see
where
your
cursor
is
there's
at
least
one
one
and
a
half
spaces
that
go
beyond
the
current
west
side
of
that
home,
and
I
think,
in
order
for
me
to
to
be
in
support
of
this
parking
lot
and
access
going
to
41st.
I
would
like
the
parking
pull
back
a
minimum
of
what
that
existing
west
house
is.
T
F
H
I
I
A
I
J
C
C
W
J
K
H
J
All
this
is
glenna
with
the
legal
department,
I'm
going
to
jump
in
here.
Just
for
a
second
please,
yes,
eric
is
correct.
I
mean
I
would
ask
that
you
all.
Please
still
vote
on
item
c,
which
is
the
approval,
recommending
approval
with
the
conditions
and
then
also
actually
and
and
also
then
a
reminder
that
if
item
c
also
fails,
we
always
ask
you.
The
legal
department
always
advises
that
you
make
a
an
affirmative
motion
that
then
could
be
submitted
to
counsel.
J
I
Yeah,
I
don't
know
if
people
I
am
gonna,
let
me
know
if
you
don't
hear
me,
I'm
sitting
closer
to
my
computer
now
that
might
have
been
the
problem,
but
the
the
motion
was
staffer.
Go
ahead,
jason!
Well,
if
you
can't
hear
me
if
I'm
cutting
out,
please
let
me
know,
because,
okay,
so
all
right.
Thank
you
this.
I
L
J
K
W
R
B
J
J
J
C
A
J
B
I
A
H
H
H
History
there
there
was
earlier
rezoning
to
do
similar
thing
with
a
number
of
conditions,
and
that
was
they
did
not
comply
with
those
conditions
and
then,
when
the
new
zoning
ordinance
was
approved.
In
effect,
this
went
back
to
an
mx1
designation
so
now
to
move
ahead
with
getting
into
conformance
with
zoning
they're
now
requesting
to
change
the
zoning
again
to
the
mx3,
which
would
be
the
designation
which
would
allow
for
the
minor
vehicle
repair.
H
H
H
H
At
this
time,
staff
is
fairly
fairly
concerned
about
their
ability
to
really
follow
up
on
what
needs
to
be
done
to
get
this
site
in
in
conformance
and
not
be
a
negative
impact
on
the
neighborhood.
So
at
this
point
in
time,
we're
finding
that
the
the
requested
rezoning
would
not
be,
in
conformance
with
the
neighborhood
mixed
use
designation,
but
then
we're
also
recommending
denial
of
the
change
to
a
community
mixed
use
and
therefore
also
then
recommending
denial
of
the
rezoning
of
the
property
to
mx3.
A
Y
That,
since
2016,
the
the
applicant
or
the
homeowner
sorry,
the
property
owner
is
now
in
a
position
to
follow
through
on
the
zoning
requirements
to
get
this
project
done,
and
I
do
apologize
that
they're
not
available
tonight,
they're
traveling,
unfortunately,
and
if
we
do
need
to
hear
from
them,
then
we
can
continue
this.
They
were
fine
with
that
they're
going
to
follow
through
with
whatever
the
whatever
jillian
tells
us.
We
need
to
do
we're
going
to
do
it.
Y
I
I
mean
I
don't
know
what
else
to
say.
This
has
been
an
auto
service
center
since
the
inception
of
this
property,
so
it
just
makes
sense
for
it
to
continue
on
sure.
It's
been
auto
service
and
it
was
a
transmission
shop
now
we're
back
out
of
service,
but
we
only
had
positive
positive
feedback
and
the
neighbor
across
the
alley.
Y
All
they
asked
was
that
we
moved
the
access
to
the
property
for
them
to
get
their
camper
out
of
their
property
across
the
alley,
and
we
did
that
so
we've
done
everything
the
neighborhood
wanted
us
to
do.
We're
going
to
do
everything.
The
city
wants
us
to
do
and
actually
they're
excited
to
get
moving
they've
already
started.
They
got
rid
of
eliminated.
Y
Y
A
H
Z
I
A
AA
Dory
this
is
carolyn
and
I
apologize.
Maybe
I
should
have
just
asked
eric
directly,
but
what
happens
to
this
property?
If,
if
we
don't,
if
we
say
no-
and
I
wonder
if,
if
they
did
comply
to
their
2016,
what
would
happen
would
would
that
be
a
more
positive
experience
and
we
would
allow
this
rezoning
or
allow
them
to
continue
business.
H
So
if,
if,
if
the
city
council
were
to
deny
the
rezoning,
they
would
have
the
remedy
to
seek
use,
variance
with
the
word
of
adjustment,
where
there
would
be
specifically
what
they're
wanting
to
do
as
a
use,
but
they
would
be
subject
to
conditions.
Also,
the
board
of
adjustment
would
have
to
find
that
there's
no
other
use
that
the
property
could
be
used
for
that
to
get
a
reasonable
return.
So
there's
some
hurdles
there
that
they
would
have
to
get
the
board
of
adjustment
to
find
that
they
could
grant
a
use
variance.
H
C
I
Please
yeah
and
just
expanding
upon
that
a
couple
things
that
led
staff
to
this
conclusion
of
our
recommendation
is
that
we're
not
sure
that
atlanta's
plan
amendment
makes
sense
here
for
the
kind
of
the
broader
area
we
also
took
in
account
for
the
fact
that
in
2016
in
looking
into
the
file
and
reflecting
on
it,
you
know
we
we
there
was
concerns
at
that
point.
Actually,
the
recommendation
on
the
commission
was
to
a
recommendation
of
denial.
I
I
think
when
it
got
to
the
council
level,
there
was
thoughts
that
you
know.
Maybe
we
can
give
them
some
time
to
get
their
site
in
order,
so
the
council
did
approve
it
with
some
pretty
specific
conditions,
one
of
those
being
that
they
brought
the
site
into
conformance
with
the
site
plan.
Within
a
year,
we've
had
I've
just
checked
back
through
our
code
enforcement
records.
I
I
So
when
you
put
that
all
together
we're
pretty
reluctant
to
support
our
rezoning,
I
think
eric
has
laid
out
a
good
path
that
if
they
are
going
to
move
forward-
and
they
are
going
to
make
improvements,
this
seems
more
appropriate
as
a
use
variance
at
that
staff
perspective.
We
respect
whatever
the
commission
comes
up
with
we'll
work
with
that,
not
not
a
problem,
but
I
just
wanted
to
give
a
little
context
to
why
we've
landed
on
the
recommendation
that
we
did
so.
Thank
you.