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From YouTube: 5-20-21 Plan & Zoning Commission
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Des Moines Plan & Zoning Commission meeting on Thursday, May 20, 2021.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/PZatHome
A
This
project,
there's
around
85
000
parcels
in
within
the
city,
limits
that's
less
than
a
percent
of
the
parcels
that
needed
to
be
rezoned
or
looked
at,
and
I
also
think
that
you
know
those
numbers
go
up
and
down
over
the
years.
So
I
I'm
not
sure
that
really
that
variation
means
much
in
my
mind,
but
we
did
want
to
provide
that
information
to
you
slide.
A
The
zoning
code
updates
there's
really
kind
of
three
levels
of
categories
of
things
that
you'll
see
when
this
is
brought
forward
to
you
in
full
documents
for
the
next
meeting.
There's
the
corrections
which
are
pretty
straightforward
clarifications
and
then
modifications
tonight
we're
going
to
talk
more
about
the
modifications,
those
are
kind
of
the
big
ticket
items,
but
I
don't
want
to
lose
track
on
the
importance
of
clarifications
and
making
staff
more
efficient
in
our
reviews
and
also
reducing
frustration
for
applicants.
B
So
chapter
134
kind
of
the
major
changes
that
we
are
proposing
in
here
one
is
we're
proposing
to
eliminate
ground
floor
commercial
use
requirement
and
allow
residential
use
on
ground
floor
in
cx
and
mx3
districts.
These
are
more
auto
oriented
corridors
where
maybe
horizontal
mixed
use.
You
know
and
within
separate
buildings,
on
a
property,
maybe
more
suitable
than
having
absolutely
mixed
use
in
a
vertical
format.
B
In
a
building
we
were
proposing,
obviously,
to
add
some
uses
in
in
different
zoning
districts,
for
example,
right
now
in
our
industrial
districts,
there's
very
little
retail
restaurant
use
allowed
in
those-
and
you
know
we
found
a
couple
of
examples
in
the
past
year
where
that
did
create
some
issues
from
the
old
code
to
the
new
code.
So
we
are
adding
some
of
those
retail
and
restaurant
uses
back
into
i1
districts.
B
What
type
of
food
production
can
happen
in
a
in
a
non-commercial
kitchen
in
just
a
single
family
home,
and
so
we're
trying
to
match
up
our
home
occupation
regulations
with
some
of
that
latitude.
That's
been
given
by
the
state
we're
proposing
to
amend
or
create
a
that
scoreboards
for,
like
high
schools
and
athletic
stadiums
would
be
assess
an
accessory
use
rather
than
currently
being
designated
as
a
sign
in
the
code,
and
you
know,
obviously,
those
are.
The
scoreboards
are
intended
to
be
viewed
and
provide
information
for
the
attendees.
B
As
far
as
signs
go,
we
are
proposing
to
allow
type,
1
and
type
2
zoning
exceptions
rather
than
variances
for
basically
relief
of
all
signage
requirements,
so
type
1
and
2
type
2.
Zoning
exceptions
obviously
have
to
meet
a
heart,
a
practical
difficulty
test
versus
a
hardship
test
under
a
variance
criteria.
B
B
B
Right
now,
the
canopy
signage
is
counted
as
part
of
the
building
signage
and
we're
actually
establishing
a
separate
category
for
canopy
signage.
But
we're
limiting
that
signage,
the
total
number
and
size
of
signs
on
a
canopy
based
on
street
frontage,
we're
proposing
to
allow
signage
for
non-conforming
uses
in
all
zoning
districts.
So
we've
had
a
couple
of
examples
where
people
have
had
to
seek
a
variance
from
the
board
of
adjustment,
maybe
the
u-haul
on
hubbell
avenue.
A
Thanks
mike
just
to
highlight
some
of
the
things
that
we're
looking
at,
that
will
be
brought
forward
to
you.
These
are
kind
of
design
focus
changes
here.
The
first
is
allowing
surface
parking,
loading,
bays
and
garage
entrances
on
the
front
facade
of
the
workshop
warehouse
building
as
a
type
one
design,
alternative
we've
had
several
cases
come
forward
and
I
think
you've
seen
those
or
may
recall
seeing
those
where
you
know
it
makes
sense
from
the
character
of
the
area
or
maybe
it's
a
new
building
on
an
existing
campus.
A
That
seems
to
be
a
common
thread,
so
we'd
like
to
see
that
move
to
type
one
or
we
could
look
at
it
as
staff
and
then
two
is
transparency
for
side
street
facades.
So
this
is
the
situation
with
you
know,
house,
on
a
corner
lot,
the
different
house
types
have
kind
of
varying
levels
of
of
transparency
requirements.
For
that
side,
facade.
A
The
lowest
of
of
the
group
is
the
12,
and
we
found
that,
when
we're
using
a
house
type
that
is
at
that
12
category,
that
we've
always
been
able
to
sort
that
out
with
the
applicant
in
the
type
1
category
of
relief,
if
it
in
fact
it
even
needs
relief.
So
we
like
to
reduce
those
to
kind
of
a
standard
12
across
all
house
types.
A
Three
has
to
do
with
wrapping
of
material
around
a
side,
facade
or
a
rear
facade.
So
the
way
the
language
is
written
now
in
chapter
135.
If,
for
instance,
you
have
stone
on
the
front
you're
supposed
to
wrap
it
around
the
side,
20
feet,
which
is
really
more
intended
for
a
commercial
building,
we've
been
waiving
that
through
the
design
alternative
process,
but
we
want
to
go
ahead
and
codify
that,
as
you
know,
being
more
in
line
with
what
is
expected.
A
The
last
bullet
point
here
is
the
ability
to
waive
the
basement
requirement
for
the
house
type,
a
you've
seen
several
of
these,
where
folks
have
come
in
to
do
an
addition,
they're
adding
on
to
a
part
of
the
house
that
maybe
was
already
addition.
That's
was
built
on
slab,
doesn't
have
a
basement,
doesn't
make
sense
to
require
them
to
build
a
basement
for
a
sun
room
addition
that
sort
of
thing,
so
we
want
to
make
that
eligible
for
type.
One.
A
As
you
recall,
the
way
the
code
is
written
now
we
have
to
do
a
analysis
of
the
area
around
the
subject:
property
so
250-foot
analysis
and
then
determine
what
is
the
predominant
character
in
that
notice,
or
not
notice
but
kind
of
radius
area,
and
then,
if
it
does,
if
it's
less
than
50,
and
they
still
want
it
way
that
has
come
before
you
and
in
cases
with
infill
development.
The
commission
has
routinely
approved
those
requests
so
long
as
the
shed
was
provided.
A
So
we've
looked
at
that
pattern
and
are
creating
an
amendment
that
reflects
that
kind
of
implementing
your
policy
through
action
and
are
proposing
a
type
one
design.
Alternatively,
added
that
would
allow
staff
to
waive
the
garage
requirement
if
we
feel
that
it's
generally
in
character
with
area.
So
you
know
we're
not
going
to
use
this
for
greenfield
development,
that
sort
of
thing,
but
for
infill
projects,
the
kinds
of
stuff
that
you're
waving
we'd
like
to
build
away
that
ourselves
and
not
have
to
put
it
on
an
agenda
slide.
A
That
staff
would
be
able
to
wave
the
low
priority
to
and
through
three
sidewalk
areas,
and
then,
if
it
happened
to
be
in
a
priority
one
area,
we
would
come
up
with
a
deferral
agreement
or
kind
of
an
escrow
program
that
we've
been
working
with
the
legal
department
on
in
the
city
manager's
office
that
the
applicant
would
enter
into
again.
This
is
for
cases
where
it
makes
sense.
You
know,
there's
no
existing
network
to
connect
to
all
the
same
problems
that
we've
been
discussing
and
we'd.
A
There's
also
some
cleanup
things
as
it
relates
to
puds
that
I'll
touch
on
here.
The
the
first
is
allowing
the
final
pud
development
plan
and
any
amendments
to
them
to
be
reviewed
by
staff
right
now.
The
way
the
code
is
written,
the
final
pud
development
plan,
which
is
basically
fancy
talk
for
a
site
plan
and
building
elevations,
has
to
have
a
hearing
before
the
planning,
zoning,
commission
and
the
city
council,
and
I
think
off
the
top.
A
My
head,
I
believe
we
had
about
we've
had
14
or
so
of
these
requests
come
through
since
the
code
was
adopted,
and
so
that
means
and
then
often
they've,
come
after
a
conceptual
plan
amendment.
So
you
you'll
you'll,
see
the
conceptual
plan
they'll
go
to
council
they'll
prove
it
we'll
had
all
that
discussion,
and
then
you
know
a
few
weeks
later,
the
development
plan
comes
before
you
and
everybody's
kind
of
like
why.
Why
are
we
looking
at
this
again?
A
But
that
is
something
that
we
want
to
address,
and
so
that's
part
of
this
amendment
process
bullet
points.
Two
and
three
are
really
addressing
gaps
within
puds
at
some
time
occur
where
they
don't
address.
Signage
or
they
don't
provide
provisions
for
fences
or
lighting,
we
have
historically
allowed
fencing
or
signage
or
lighting
in
pd's.
They
don't
address
that
when,
by
using
the
standards
that
we
have
on
file,
so,
for
instance,
you
know
in
a
residential
pud.
A
Well
before
this
current
zoning
code,
we
would
look
back
and
we'd
say
well
what
is
typically,
what
does
our
code
typically
allow
for
a
single
family
house,
and
then
we
would
apply
that
this
codifies
that
practice,
and
so
it's
nothing.
It's
it's
really
just
codifying
that
tradition
and
bringing
it
forward
slightly
and
then
a
couple
other
things
that
you'll
see
in
the
amendments
is
just
a
new
accessory
structure,
type
for
bus
shelters
and
automated
accessory
structures.
This
is
just
really
addressing
something
that
wasn't
in
there
that
we've
come
across.
A
A
B
So
that's
kind
of
the
overview
of
the
major
amendments,
as
we
said
in
your
packet
for
the
june
3rd
meeting,
you'll
be
getting
a
formal
list
of
all
the
main
major
and
minor
changes
to
the
code
from
the
legal
department
as
well
as
what
we
propose
to
do
is
distribute
a
pdf
copy
of
the
new,
the
new
document
for
review,
and
then
that
was
you
know
if
once
approved
by
council.
That's
what
would
go
on
our
website.
Jason
touched
on
briefly,
but
this
did
involve
a
rebuild
of
the
existing
document.
B
So
we
had
to
basically
create
individual
files
for
the
changes
that
were
being
made.
Those
had
to
be
printed
that
had
to
be
basically
manually
numbered
and
inserted
to
a
print
copy
of
the
code
that
council
had
approved,
and
then
that
document
was
scanned
on
a
copier
as
a
pdf
and
posted
to
the
website.
So
warts
and
all
on
that
document
was
the
best
we
were
able
to
do
to
meet
the
deadline
of
having
a
code
effective
december
16th,
so
that
document
that's
on
on
our
website
today
still
has
draft
listed
on
it.
B
We've
heard
the
concerns
about
that
from
people
we
had.
We
added
notes
to
it.
That
said,
you
know
final,
as
of
you
know,
dates,
but
there's
still
draft
stamps.
On
every
page
there
are
typos
and
numerous
things
that
are
in
the
document.
We
are
trying
to
correct
all
of
those
things
in
this
document
and
activate
live
links
in
the
pdf,
so
that
people
can
move
around
in
the
document
which
they
cannot
do
today
and
it's
obviously
a
more
accessible
document
from
a
from
a
you
know,
a
machine
reader
perspective.
B
B
B
B
If
someone
wants
a
paper
copy,
we
can
provide
that,
but
I
can't
guarantee
that
that
will
be
provided
in
the
packet
next
week.
We
are
literally
up
against
a
very
tight
time
frame
to
get
all
of
the
all
of
the
revisions,
and
the
document
rebuilt
by
next
friday,
and
so
just
getting
the
pdf
out
is,
is
is
our
top
priority
for
next
week.
But
if
someone
wants
a
paper
copy,
please
let
staff
know,
and
we
will
figure
out
a
way
to
get
that
to
you,
either
at
the
hearing
or
prior
to
the
hearing.
B
But
I
would
just
point
out
that
today
the
commissioners
don't
have
a,
I
guess,
a
complete
copy
of
the
existing
a
paper
copy
of
the
existing
code.
All
of
our
staff
are
using
the
pdfs
online
to
review
projects
on
a
daily
basis,
and
so
that
truly
is
our
intent
and
that's
why
we
want
those
links
to
be
fixed
and
activated
in
this
in
this
new
pdf.
So
we
do
think
that
that
will
be
the
best
way
going
forward
for
everybody
to
be
utilizing
the
code.
B
B
B
C
C
Well,
it's
not
quite
6
p.m.
Oh,
yes,
it
is
6
p.m.
So
I
will
start
the
meeting
by
reading
the
rules
and
procedures.
The
plan
and
zoning
commission
is
generally
an
advisory
body
to
the
city
council.
The
city
council
will
hold
a
public
hearing
and
make
the
final
decision
on
all
matters
before
the
commission
other
than
site
plans
and
subdivision
plats.
Unless
denials
or
conditional
approvals
thereof
are
appealed.
C
Applicants
will
be
given
10
minutes
to
present
the
request
and
if
applicants
wish
to
share
materials
not
already
submitted
with
the
application,
please
email
them
to
planning
dmgov.org.
So
a
staff
host
may
be
able
to
share
them
on
the
screen.
When
you
present
proponents-
and
then
opponents
from
the
public
are
then
allowed
to
speak
in
that
order
with
each
speaker
allowed
a
maximum
of
five
minutes,
staff
has
attempted
to
compile
a
list
of
people
who
would
like
to
speak
on
each
item.
C
Staff
will
first
call
on
these
people
and
then
will
open
it
up
to
anyone
else.
Who
wishes
to
speak
to
request
to
speak
during
the
hearing.
Please
use
the
raise
hand,
function
on
zoom,
webinar
via
internet
or
dial
star
9
on
your
phone.
Once
permission
to
speak
is
given
to
unmute
and
mute
dial
star
6
on
your
phone.
C
You
will
be
required
to
give
your
legal
name
and
address
for
the
record
prior
to
speaking.
Also,
we
ask
that
you
keep
your
microphones
and
phones
on
mute
unless
you've
been
given
the
chance
to
address
the
commission
by
the
chair
applicant
is
then
allowed
five
minutes
for
a
rebuttal.
If
any
opponent
spoke.
C
F
G
C
C
F
E
C
F
F
E
C
C
Which
is
a
request
from
fairway
stores,
inc
for
type
2
design,
alternatives
for
property
located
at
2716,
beaver
avenue
and
2723
41st
place
to
allow
redevelopment
for
a
7,
759
square
foot,
storefront
type,
building
for
limited
retail
sales
use,
and
I
believe
the
reason
I
didn't
know
jason.
If
you
were
going
to
comment
on
the
reason
for
that
continuance.
A
C
A
A
E
F
I
C
A
I
see
two
hands:
okay,
we'll
go
ahead
and
hear
it
okay,
but
ryan's
the
applicant.
So
I
want
to
give
him
permission
to
talk
ryan.
Can
you
unmute
yourself
want
to
make
sure
you
understand?
If
it's
on
the
consent
agenda,
the
commission
is
going
to
adopt
the
staff
recommendation,
which
is
for
approval
with
some
minor
conditions.
Are
you
opposed
to
the
conditions.
A
G
A
G
D
A
A
A
But
maybe
by
that
point
of
course
this
will
be
the
first
item
we'll
discuss
so
how
about
this
doug
if
you're,
still
listening?
If
you
can
contact
ryan,
give
him
a
call
and
find
out
we
will.
The
chair
will
move
on
to
the
other
items.
Then
we'll
come
back
to
this
one
before
we
vote
on
the
consent
agenda.
C
Okay
item
number
five,
then,
is
request
from
terrace
hill,
one
llc
represented
by
doug
saltscaper
for
property,
located
at
2525
grand
avenue
to
rezone
property
from
rx2
mixed
use,
district
to
an
mx3
mixed
youth
district.
Is
there
anyone
in
the
public
who
would
like
to
have
this
item
pulled
from
consent
and
discussed
this
evening?
C
N
C
O
A
The
reference
to
the
pending
amendments
are
the
basis
for
staff
supporting
this
request
where
others
requests
have
come
before
you,
we
have
not
supported,
and
regardless
of
our
support,
the
commission
has
generally
been
waving
sidewalks,
where
there's
no
network
around
them
to
connect
to,
and
so
as
staff.
We
decided
to
go
ahead
and
recommend
approval
of
this.
A
A
N
Hey
guys,
sorry
about
that,
I
think
I
was
on
the
line
on
a
computer
and
a
phone,
so
I
think
that
was
where
there
was
a
little
bit
of
issue
trying
to
actually
mute
myself
and
get
myself
to
speak,
but
but
I
I
think
we're
good
like
I
said
we
don't
as
long
as
everything's
approved,
I
think
we're
good
with
everything.
As
far
as
the
commercial
and
the
residential
part,
I
think
we're
fine
with
everything
you
guys
said
thanks
for
answering
okay.
Is
there
anything.
C
F
E
A
A
This
is
the
site
of
the
municipal
service
center.
The
construction
or
grading
has
started.
Detention
facilities
are
in
close.
Proximity
actually
will
be
over
a
lot
of
this
right
away.
We
heard
from
a
neighbor
who
dale
jones
who's
with
us
tonight
that
owns
this
parcel
and
I
think
he
owns
some
other
parts.
A
A
couple
parcels
up
here
as
well
about
his
concern
about
access
to
maintaining
his
fencing,
and
so
the
commission
continued
it
and
asked
that
we
reach
out
to
engineering
real
estate
department
and
discuss
the
matter
with
them
and
just
quickly
flip
through
the
slides.
Here
you
can
see
in
the
stafford
updated
staff
report.
We
are
recommending
approval,
which
we
had
last
time,
but
this
time
we've
added
language
requiring
an
access,
easement
be
provided
for
faint
defense
maintenance
purposes.
A
For
mr
jones,
the
the
land
needs
to
be
controlled
by
the
city
to
allow
for
the
grading,
the
stormwater
maintenance
facilities
and
any
future
expansions,
and
we
shouldn't
be
in
a
position
where
we're
selling
land.
I
think
at
the
last
meeting
we
talked
to
the
applicant
they're,
not
the
applicant,
but
the
neighborhood
suggested.
Maybe
he
purchased
half
of
his
the
alley
that
joins
his
property.
A
We
need
to
maintain
control
that
for
long-term
protection
of
the
city.
If
the
there's
a
future
expansions
or
something
along
those
lines,
we
don't
want
to
have
to
buy
a
land
back
that
we've
already
owned
at
one
time.
So
that's
the
reason
why
we
brought
forward
a
recommendation
with
justin
easement
happy
to
answer
any.
C
A
Dale
used
the
race
hand
function
or,
if
you're,
on
a
phone
star
nine.
I
see
him
listed,
but
he
hasn't
raised
his
hand.
So
I
don't.
I
did
share
with
him
the
what
the
recommendation
was
going
to
be,
and
I
did
provide
him
a
copy
of
the
site
plan
for
the
municipal
service
center.
So
he
could
understand
the
long-term
grading
plans.
L
L
L
L
L
L
L
A
A
Thanks
story
be
happy
to
the.
I
don't
know
that
the
myself
is,
you
know,
as
planning
staff
or
the
commission
can
really
address
his
questions
about
grading.
You
know
the
the
project
is
this
started.
There
is
an
approved
grading
plan.
I
did
provide
that
to
you
know
him
as
part
of
the
site
plan
package
that
I
sent
over
that's
already.
The
site
plans
have
been
prepared,
there's
actually
before
the
commission.
I
think
it
was
sometime
in
2020
the
so
he
needs
to
coordinate
with
our
the
project
engineer
and
the
the
contractor.
A
A
But,
as
I
looked
at
the
contours,
it
looked
like
it
was
flat
in
that
in
what
would
be
the
alley
right
away,
the
with
regard
to
the
fences
that
were
damaged
by
the
contractor.
You
know,
dale
mentioned
this
to
me.
I've
passed
that
on
to
our
engineering
staff,
but
I
believe
dale's
conversations
have
been
directly
with
a
contractor
who's
who,
in
dell's
words,
has
said
that
he
acknowledged
that
it
was
an
error.
I
can't
speak
to
that.
I
haven't
talked
to
the
contractor
directly.
A
A
Junkyard,
so
to
speak
to
the
south
here
and
there's
fencing
along
it
and
that's
what
was
discussed
at
the
previous
meeting.
I
I
understand
he
owns.
I
think
this
parcel,
I
don't
know
if
you
can
see
my
mouse
on
the
screen.
I
think
he
owns
this
person
up
here.
That
has
a
house
on
it
and
maybe
a
couple
other
ones
in
here
and
I
believe
that's
where
the
the
fence
damage
was.
If
the
commission
wants
to
include
that,
though,
you
know
an
easement
for
the
any
parcels
he
owns
that
you
know,
that's
fine.
A
C
C
D
K
A
My
understanding
is
there
I'm
looking
at
some
notes
when
I
talk
to
him
and
we
can
give
him
permission
to
speak
again,
I'll
have
to
do
that,
but
609
southeast
15th
court
and
then
six
third
there.
Well,
we
might
actually.
I
need
to
ask
him
because
it
it
was
dale.
Can
you
immediate
yourself,
I
I
was
thinking
it
was
either
6
17
or
6
13..
A
A
L
K
E
F
F
E
C
Thank
you
tyler.
I
will
remind
anybody
who's
listening
in
this
evening
that
we
have
already
acted
on
items
number
one
through
seven
item
number.
Nine
item
number,
fourteen
and
fifteen,
so
those
items
have
already
been
dealt
with
this
evening
and
we're
ready
to
continue
on
with
item
number
10,
11,
12
and
13..
Q
Yes,
okay,
great,
yes,
so
4194
john
lind
road
is
the
applicant
is
proposing
to
tear
down
an
existing
house
and
to
build
a
new
construction
house
type
d
in
the
n5
district.
Here?
Is
the
map
there's
a
few
things
that
I
would
like
to
point
out.
So
this
is
located
south
of
grand
just
off
of
42nd
street,
which
is
the
north
south
road
that
you'll
see
there.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
So
the
existing
house
is
shown
in
the
shaded
area.
This
is
the
outline
of
the
existing
house
here
and
then
this
is
the
existing
garage
which
is
kind
of
tucked
under
at
grade
what
the
applicant
is
proposing
with
their
new
house,
with
this
outline
you'll
see
that
they're,
looking
at
a
10,
10.3
foot
front
yard,
set
back
on
that
there's
about
another
19
feet
within
the
right
of
way
from
the
front
property
line
to
the
curb.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
Same
with
a
permitted,
roof
type,
a
clear
story:
roof
is
considered
a
pitch
non-gable
roof,
and
so
that
wouldn't
be
allowed
with
the
house
type
d,
but
is
also
allowed
with
the
type
a
on
the
front
setback.
As
I
had
pointed
out
on
the
site
plan,
the
minimum
front
setback
of
25
feet
is
required
for
n5
in
an
n1a,
that's
at
45
feet.
But
again
the
lot
is
only
75
feet
deep,
so
that
would
really
be
limiting
with
that
again
they're
asking
for
a
front
setback
of
10.3
feet.
Q
Q
In
addition
to
looking
at
the
maximum
building
coverage
in
the
front
yard
impervious,
we
also
look
at
the
total
impervious
surface
of
the
yard.
So
again,
with
the
constraints
of
the
small
lot,
they
are
looking
at
relief
for
the
maximum
building
coverage
and
the
front
yard
impervious
of
being
what's
allowed.
Q
This
area
is
not
listed
as
a
priority
sidewalk
we
recognize
there
are
no
sidewalks
anywhere
on
the
street.
There
are
some
constraints
with
topography.
If
a
sidewalk
was
to
go
in
on
john
land
road
at
some
point
down
the
road,
it
would
probably
be
across
the
street
where
the
is
a
little
bit
more
flat.
So
we're
also
recommending
approval
for
that.
Q
We
did
receive
a
formal
signed
letter
in
opposition
from
the
neighboring
property
at
4106.
john
lend.
I
do
believe
that
that
neighbor
is
on
our
call
tonight.
I
had
also
received
two
emails
from
neighbors
in
opposition-
one
if
you
can
see
my
my
cursor
here
from
two
houses
directly
to
the
east
and
then
also
across
the
street
here-
and
let
me
this
is
just
the
letter
that
I
have
from
that
neighbor
outlining
their
concerns.
A
A
R
R
I
just
want
to
start
with
a
little
bit
of
background.
I
purchased
this
home
in
october
of
2020
kind
of
with
the
intent
of
a
full
renovation
to
the
existing
property
and
that
that
kind
of
that
included
raising
the
height
of
the
second
story.
The
second
level
of
that
home
has
a
six
and
a
half
foot
vaulted
down
to
two
and
a
half
foot
ceiling.
R
It's
the
upstairs
is
is
quite
tight
where
the
bedrooms
would
be,
and
then
the
first
floor
height
is
at
seven
and
a
half
feet.
So
it's
it's
just
very,
very,
very
tight.
I
met
with
a
structural
engineer
to
discuss
the
possibility
of
raising
these
ceilings,
as
well
as
the
viability
to
put
an
addition
over
the
garage.
R
R
When
I
looked
at
a
new
construction
option,
I
did.
I
did
realize
that
the
home
was
built
in
1890
and
that
you
know
that's
a
very
old
property
and
possible
historic
site.
You
know
going
through
the
home
and
going
through
some
of
the
things
that
have
been
done
to
the
home
over
time.
It
was
fully
renovated
in
the
early
90s
and
I
think
it
was
1993.
There
was
a
full
remodel
done
and,
and
really
I
think,
just
the
general
lack
of
care
for
the
property
over
the
last
few
years,
really
diminished.
R
So
when
I
started
to
look
at
the
new
construction,
the
goal
was
to
create
a
dynamic
property
that
adds
value
to
the
neighborhood
and
character
to
john
lynn,
road,
given
the
rise
of
construction
costs
and
the
idea
of
starting
with
a
blank
lock
a
lot.
I
work
tirelessly
with
my
building
designer
to
maximize
the
lot
space
while
creating
a
unique
design
to
add
to
the
integrity
of
the
neighborhood.
R
I
know
that
I'm
asking
for
a
lot
of
variances,
but
in
my
opinion,
some
of
these
are
more
of
a
formality.
With
you
know
the
sidewalk
there
isn't
a
sidewalk
current
now
and
I
know
looking
down
down
the
line
as
laura
kind
of
alluded
to
at
least
on
our
side
of
the
street.
It
just
doesn't
lend
itself
to
putting
one
in
there
without
a
massive
kind
of
intrusion
in
people's
yards,
so
we
so
looking
at
it.
R
I
felt
like
the
two
most
controversial
things
are
the
the
lot
setbacks
and
the
maximum
building
coverage
increase.
So
I
knew
going
into
the
building.
The
main
challenge
was
going
to
be
the
lot.
It
is
significantly
smaller
than
any
other
lot
south
of
grand
and
the
topography
of
a
lot
kind
of
limits.
What
we
can
do,
feasibly
for
construction,
add
to
the
fact
that
I
am
trying
to
keep
as
many
as
the
large
oak
trees
on
the
property
as
possible.
R
R
R
As
I
stated
before,
you
know
we
did
try
to
stay
in
the
existing
footprint.
We
did
push
out
a
little
on
the
back
and
we
felt
like
we
needed
to
do
that
for
a
functioning
three
bedroom
floor
plan
with
new
construction
and,
like
I
said,
the
rising
cost,
we
really
needed
to
increase
the
size
a
little
bit
to
get
the
value
out
of
the
new
construction.
R
R
As
I
stated
before,
the
new
construction
was
to
create
new
york
home
in
a
very,
very
elegant
neighborhood.
I
thought
that
was
you
know,
using
that
existing
footprint
of
the
current
home
would
cause
the
least
amount
of
resistance
to
the
neighborhood
and
given
the
fact
that
it's
been
there
for
decades
decades,
with
no
issues
that
we
could
go
forward
with
that.
R
With
that
being
said,
I
I
think
that's
really
all
I
have
I
like.
I
said
I
appreciate
everybody's
time.
You
know
just
trying
to
create
a
really
really
nice
property
here.
That
is
something
I
can.
I
can
really
enjoy
going
forward
and
try
to
be
as
as
as
good
as
I
can
be,
and
you
know
it's
just
a
beautiful
neighborhood
and
I
think
I
really
think
the
home
that's
on
it
now
doesn't
do
the
neighborhood
justice
and
I'd
like
to
kind
of
add
to
that
piece
of
it.
A
S
Unfortunately,
I
can't
hear
you
very
well,
but
let
me
go
ahead
and
try
to
get
started
here.
I
understand
that
we
we
are
with
my
spouse,
I
suppose
the
owners
to
the
east.
I
do
appreciate
your
time
this
evening.
I
think
you've
all
seen
our
letter.
I
would
comment
that
we
did
submit
the
letter
prior
to
seeing
the
staff's
report,
so
I'm
not
going
to
take
everybody's
time
to
go
through
what
we've
already
covered
in
the
letter,
but
I
think
a
couple
of
points
I
would
emphasize
here
this
evening
with
you.
S
T
S
But
I
think
part
of
our
point
is
the
past.
Mistakes
should
not
be
used
to
justify
and
expand
an
existing
mistake
to
allow
this
kind
of
construction.
We
must
confess
that
we're
also
disappointed
that
the
report
does
not
address
the
specific
requirements,
particularly
report
for
the
evaluation
of
the
surrounding
neighborhood.
S
When
there's
at
least
50
percent
of
the
developed
classes
in
250,
feet
are
designed
and
constructed
consistently
with
the
birth
or
not
or
whether
they
are
whether
it's
directly
in
adjoining
lats
or
consistent
with
the
alternatives.
Now
I
think
the
city
staff
interpretation
of
this
is
that
design
and
construction
only
goes
to
design
the
building.
S
We're
also
disappointed
the
staff
has
justified
the
setback
by
only
referring
to
these.
These
set
back
on
42nd
street,
the
adjoining
property
of
the
west
rather
than
to
ours,
and
not
consider
the
impact
on
our
property.
This
is
going
to
result
and,
if
you
can
imagine,
you
currently
have
a
a
garage.
That's
at
ground
level
so
is
fairly
far
away
from
our
the
structure
is
fairly
far
away
from
our
property
line.
You're
now
moving
within
five
feet
of
building
a
two-story
plus
roof
line
and
a
massive
extension
of
the
existing
structure.
S
S
We
do
not
believe
that
this
kind
of
an
addition
and
structure
is
consistent.
I
said
with
the
neighborhood
and
therefore
we
would
ask
the
commission
to
oh,
I
do
have
one
other
point.
I'm
sorry
because
it
just
was
learned
here
tonight
is
we've
never
got
an
explanation
as
to
why
the
staff
is
allowing
five
foot
on
the
east,
but
was
requiring
11th
foot
on
the
west.
S
It
makes
no
sense.
There
was
a
distinction
between
this,
particularly
if
they
were
lying
upon
the
setback
on
42nd
street.
Why
not
a
wider
sent
back
to
the
to
the
west
rather
than
the
east,
so
that's
kind
of
our
our
basic
pitch
has
done
a
supplement,
our
written
response
and
we're
happy
to
answer
any
questions.
U
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
oh
there's
marshall
and
her
husband.
I
live
at
4101
john
lind
road,
the
the
houses
that
you
have
referenced
at
40,
40
11,
that
was
hal
newman's
house.
He
at
one
time
owned
all
the
property
from
4101
john
lynn,
clear
down
to
the
creek
and
built
his
house
with
the
proper
setbacks
all
the
way
through
creating
an
environment
for
the
neighborhood
approach
appropriately
setting
way
back
from
the
street,
the
house
at
the
4194
has
been
there.
U
It
was
since
1890
and
has,
and
has
never
been
in
in
consonance
with
the
whole
neighborhood.
The
houses
on
the
south
side
of
the
street
have
all
obliged
themselves
by
the
proper
setbacks.
The
city
codes
and
all
properties
in
this
neighborhood
have
invested
great
sums
of
money
to
improve
their
properties
in
accordance
with
the
neighborhood
ideals
and
character
and,
along
with
the
city
code,
this
property
that
to
being
improved
it
does
neither
it
doesn't
improve
the
the
the
character
of
the
property
of
the
neighborhood
or
anything.
U
C
C
R
P
You
could
see
it
in
that
photo.
If
we
were
to
provide
equal
setbacks,
then
we
would
probably
have
to
eliminate
that
and
our
goal
is
to
maintain
as
many
oak
trees
as
we
can,
and
I
mean
I
can't.
I
can't
really
go
into
arguing
too
much
about
new
construction,
because
there's
more
and
more
popping
up
on
south
of
grand
to
my
knowledge,
there
are
two
that
are
getting
ready
to
go
on,
one
along
foster,
drive
and
one
a
couple
blocks
to
the
south
of
us.
P
P
Average
value
in
the
neighborhood
according
to
polk
county
assessor,
is
about
672
000
per
property.
Our
sits
at
about
140.,
so
we're
just
trying
to
do
the
best
we
can
with
the
lot
that
we
have
and
actually
add
value
to
what
is
a
very
great
neighborhood
that
we
all
agree
to.
So
I
think
that's
kind
of
all.
I
have
to
say
thank
you
for
your
time.
I
Q
A
C
F
S
I
C
C
C
A
This
yes
chair
members
of
commission
jason
vanessa
and
with
the
city's
planning
staff,
this
arial
identifies
the
subject
property
on
the
southwest
corner
of
the
eastern
boulevard
and
east
29th
street
intersection.
You
can
see
the
existing
convenience
store,
building
fuel
canopy
out
towards
the
corner.
A
And
you
received
a
copy
of
the
staff
report
in
your
packet
with
these
rezoning
requests.
You
know
our
first
first
thing
that
we
look
at
is
what
does
plan
dsm
identify
for
the
the
property
in
the
area?
What
is
the
future
land
use?
Map
designation
in
this
case,
the
proposed
rezoning
does
require
a
future
land
use
map
amendment
changing
the
designation
from
a
neighborhood
mixed
use,
which
is
meant
for
kind
of
your
smaller
scale.
A
Neighborhood
services,
less,
you
know,
kind
of
lower
capacity,
collector
streets
such
as
easton,
and
we
need
to
be
amended
to
a
community
mixed
use.
Designation,
which
is
you
know
what
you
see
on
hubble
university,
avenue,
east
14th
street,
some
of
our
more
auto
dominant
areas.
That
is
the
destination
that
you
can
kind
of.
Associate
your
mind
with
that
type
of
development
pattern.
A
Liquor
added
to
the
existing
wine
and
beer
sales
that
they
would
still
need
to
get
a
conditional
use
approval
from
the
zoning
board
of
adjustment.
Even
if
the
rezoning
is
required
as
staff,
we
are
recommending
denial
and
it
really
is
goes
back
to
that.
Where
does
it
make
sense
in
the
city
to
have
that
mx3
zoning
and
where
and
the
community
mixed
designation?
A
A
V
Okay,
my
name
is
russell
and
my
address
is
2325
east
plus
train.
That's
my
resident
address,
okay.
Unfortunately,
my
lawyer
couldn't
attend
the
meeting
today
and
he
was
pretty
much
following
the
application
closely
more
than
I
was
he
did
in
from
a
couple
days
ago
like
he
was
the
the
reasoning
was
denied
because
it
was
like
low
traffic
area
or
something
like
that,
and
he
was
he
wasn't
thinking.
V
It
was
a
valid
reason,
but
plan
and
commission
future,
like
whatever
it
is,
is
denying
the
the
application
or
the
rezoning,
but
did
the
houses
around
the
the
properties
most
of
the
houses
are
like
res.
It's
single
house,
but
there
there's
like
tenant
living
around
there
around
those
houses-
and
my
lawyer
was
also
thinking-
was
not
the
valid
reason
for
that.
So
I
don't
know
why
he
was
really
denied.
G
V
Yes,
I
okay,
my
lawyer
was
he
was
going
to
present,
but
unfortunately
he
couldn't
attend
the
meeting.
But
I
do
have
all
the
comments
that
the
resident
or
the
the
neighborhood
made
during
my
my
neighborhood
meeting,
I
do
have
the
copy
of
all
the
all
the
people
that
hadn't
attended
the
the
meeting,
and
I
do
have
the
emails
that
they
wrote
me
like
when
I
sent
the
letter
out
to
the
neighborhood,
and
I
do
have
all
the
copies
of
the
letters
that
I
sent
out
to
the
neighborhood.
C
H
A
A
I
like
university
avenue,
hubble
avenue,
southeast
14th
street
fleur
army
post
and
we
don't
believe,
that's
a
character
of
eastern
boulevard
and
so
that's
the
basis
of
our
recommendation.
We're
we
believe
that
the
plan
dsm
has
the
appropriate
the
future
land
use
map.
The
designation.
That's
on
the
map.
Currently
today
is
the
what's
appropriate
for
this
area,
and
so
we
are
recommending
denial
of
changing
that
and,
as
a
result,
if
without
the
land
use
map
amendment,
you
can't
rezone
to
mx3,
which
is
like
I
said,
the
most
intense
of
the
mx
districts.
A
A
No
but
you're
re-zoning
the
property
to
mx3
which
allows
different
uses.
I
also,
I
think
you
also
have
to
keep
in
mind
that
the
cell
of
liquor
is
a
conditional
use
process.
It's
not
it's
intended
to
be
a
use
that
it's
recognized
it's.
It
can
be
an
intense
use,
and
so
there
has
to
be
a
process
in
place
to
allow
it
and
review
it
and
be
limiting.
F
H
C
W
W
W
The
the
proposed
development
would
be
a
duplex
use
and
kind
of
fits
that
missing
middle
housing
type
that
has
called
for
within
neighborhood
nodes
in
plan
dsm
and
on
neighborhood
collector
streets.
So
we
do
from
a
staff
perspective
feel
that
it's
appropriate
and
our
staff
recommendation
is
approval
of
the
rezoning
and
the
landis
amendment.
W
W
A
A
The
council
would
if
the
commission
forwarded
a
recommendation
of
denial
and
the
commission
or
the
city
council,
accepted
that
and
moved
forward
with
denial.
The
applicant
would
have
two
opportunities
or
two
paths
ahead
of
him.
One
would
be
to
use
the
property
as
a
single
family
dwelling,
one
household
which
she
has
zoning
rights
to
do.
Currently,
the
other
would
be
to
seek
a
use
variance
from
the
zoning
board
of
adjustment
if
they
were
able
and
he'd
have
to
demonstrate
a
hardship
to
the
board
satisfaction.
X
A
X
If
you
could
throw
presents
up
on
that,
please
thank
you,
my
friend,
so
thank
you,
commission,
for
taking
the
time
to
hear
this
this
evening.
The
property
address
again
is
2406
woodland
avenue
next
slide.
Please
we
are,
I
think,
it's
important
to
provide
you
a
basis
of
what
we
are
and
what
we
do
so
jennifer
myself,
as
well
as
bob
coluzzi,
all
live
in
woodland
heights.
We
believe
in
healing
the
community
by
restoring
blighted
properties,
and
we've
got
a
track
record
of
quality
restoration
inside
of
woodland
heights.
X
X
So!
Here's
just
a
quick
smothering
of
the
projects
that
we've
completed
in
woodland
heights.
If
you
could
hit
the
next
slide,
that
gives
you
a
better
idea,
blows
it
up
a
little
bit
more
again,
I
live
right
there
on
high
street.
You
can
see
in
the
yellow.
Just
west
of
24th
street
is
the
subject
property
and
then
just
south
of
that
is
my
personal
residence
on
high
next
slide.
Please
we
went
through
a
decision
making
process,
so
we've
owned
this
property.
X
Since
2014,
we
went
through
a
decision
making
process
that
I've
outlined
for
you,
I'm
not
going
to
bore
you
with
all
the
details,
but
we
asked
the
questions.
One
are
we
helping?
Are
we
helping
the
neighborhood?
Will
it
cause
harm
to
anyone?
Does
it
fit
the
city
proposal
and
the
city
vision?
Does
it
support
the
adjacent
neighbors?
Does
it
support
the
future
occupants
and
if
it's
not
profitable,
which
I
want
everyone
to
recognize?
This
is
not
a
profitable
adventure
for
us.
X
Then,
what's
the
motivation
so
next
slide,
please,
our
motivation
is
to
change
for
the
better,
the
houses
and
these
neighborhoods
to
take
the
blighted
properties.
This
is
again
my
personal
residence,
so
you
can
see
the
before
of
when
we
bought
it
in
14
to
what
it
looks
like
now.
Next
slide
my
girls
play
here.
I
want
to
make
sure
that's
that's
us
down
at
the
park
right
down
the
street
and
that's
my
daughter
standing
on
the
front
porch.
X
I
want
to
make
sure
that
everything
we're
putting
out
in
these
neighborhoods
is
supportive
of
both
their
futures,
as
well
as
all
the
other
children
in
the
neighborhood
next
slide,
please
I'll
I'll
run
through
these,
but
here's
just
an
example
of
what
we've
done
since
we've
moved
here
in
2015..
So
this
was
a
nuisance
project.
The
city
had
previously
had
on
linden
street
next
slide.
X
This
is
a
previous
rental
on
26th
street.
We
added
character
to
the
front
of
the
porch,
to
bring
it
more
in
line
with
what
the
neighborhood
expected,
as
well
as
put
a
reverse
gable
on
the
side
of
the
house.
You
can't
see
that
from
this
photo,
but
I
promise
it's
got
more
character
than
the
box
used
to
next
slide.
Please.
X
X
X
This
is
another
one
across
from
bob's
house.
This
was
dilapidated
on
interior.
We
replaced
the
majority
of
the
interior,
studs,
etc
and
put
it
back
out
to
market
next
slide.
Please
another
example
next
slide
another
example
next
slide,
so
we
have
three
upcoming
projects
in
woodland
heights
that
we
currently
own
and
intend
to
work
on
this
month
and
the
month
moving
forward.
So
the
house
on
the
bottom
is
on
28th
street
that
had
a
failed
foundation
which
we've
restored
under
permit.
X
So
far,
2415
high
street
was
owner-occupied
but
largely
a
diy
interior
project
that
is
on
our
docket
to
renovate
as
well
and
then,
of
course,
2406
woodland
which
we're
here
for
tonight.
So
I
felt
like
it
was
relevant
to
provide
the
background,
we're
not
an
investor
coming
in
this
neighborhood
trying
to
push
people
out
of
houses
or
anything
like
that.
We
are
genuinely
living
here
and
trying
to
make
the
neighborhood
better
next
slide,
please.
X
So
with
that,
I
think
it's
important
to
give
a
little
property
history,
so
we
acquired
the
property
in
2014
and
had
used
it
as
a
fourplex
all
the
way.
Through
the
end
of
2019..
In
2019,
we
started
liquidating
majority
of
our
rental
holdings.
They
felt
incongruent
with
the
with
the
operation
that
we
wanted
to
run.
This
was
intended
to
be
fully
vacated
in
2019
for
a
pending
sale.
Unfortunately,
the
tenant
did
not
move
out
of
unit
3..
X
The
occupant
stayed
over
and
leveraged
the
pandemic
to
stall
his
move
out,
so
I
do
admit
that
it
did
not
have
a
rental
certificate
after
november
of
2019..
The
intention
was
to
have
them
out
so
that
we
could
renovate
it
and
keep
it
as
an
existing
four
plex.
At
that
time,
2020
covet
eviction.
Moratorium
happened,
compounded
the
possession
issue
that
we
had
you
will.
If
you
pull
city
records,
we
did
pull
permits
to
do
plumbing,
but
again
we
couldn't
get
any
traction
going
fast
forward
to
today's
date.
X
We
went
through
our
decision
making
tree
and
we
said:
does
a
fourplex
support?
What
we're
trying
to
do
in
this
neighborhood,
both
from
an
investing
goal
and
or
what
the
neighborhood
would
like
to
see,
and
I
think
it's
a
resounding
no,
that
a
fourplex
does
not
support
that
and
we
want
to
align
with
that
mission
of
adjustment.
X
So
I'm
asking
to
downgrade
this
from
its
previous
use
as
a
four-plex
to
a
two-family
unit.
I
believe
that
supports
many
city
initiatives,
including
pass-through
doorways,
which
this
unit
had
which
suen
has
presented
amendments
and
changes
for
I
don't
know
if
they're
approved
yet
or
not,
but
I
know
that
was
something
that
we've
issued
opinions
on
and
stated
that
we
would
support
it
also
eliminates
forced
air
systems
like
this
building
previously
had,
which
was
another
city
initiative
and,
most
importantly,
it
fills
the
middle
housing
gap
for
members
of
our
community.
X
X
This
was
the
existing
layout
as
of
march
30th
2021.
So
you
can
see
the
four
bedroom
or
the
four
units
set
up
first
floor,
had
two
units
second
floor.
Had
two
units
you'll
see
that
pass
through
doorway
and
that
fourth
unit
actually
went
to
the
third
floor
and
that's
where
a
lot
of
their
living
room,
slash
living
quarters
were
the
other
three
were
truly
efficiency
units.
There
was
no
set-aside
bedroom.
We
had
a
lot
of
transient
type,
renters,
didn't
matter
how
nice
we
made
the
interior.
It
was.
It
was
it's
a
it's
a.
X
X
So
our
proposal-
it's
not
very
big,
so
it
might
be
tough
to
see
but
is
the
first
floor-
is
a
three
bedroom
three-bedroom
two-bath
unit
with
a
nice
walk-out
deck
on
the
rear.
We
maintain
the
original
porch
structure,
so
the
footprint
of
this
doesn't
change
whatsoever,
minus
the
decking,
but
in
lieu
of
the
decking
that
gets
added
to
the
rear,
we
eliminate
the
current
side
load
staircase
to
service
the
secondary
unit.
X
X
X
Here's
the
proposed
elevations
for
the
unit
you'll
see
that
we
maintain
the
porsche
on
here.
We
maintain
the
brick.
We
eliminate
the
doorway
to
it,
though
we
move
both
doorways
to
the
left
hand,
side.
The
leftmost
doorway
would
go
up
to
the
second
unit.
The
rightmost
doorway
would
go
to
the
main
unit
next
slide.
Please
here's
the
proposed
site
plan.
X
The
site
plan
doesn't
show
the
topography,
but
there's
a
pretty
substantial
grade
change
and
there
is
a
neighboring
garage
right
on
the
property
line
next
slide,
please.
So
I
just
want
to
reiterate:
we
physically
live
in
woodland
heights.
We
work
here,
I'm
doing
this
out
of
a
passion
for
love,
but
there
is
no
financial
way
for
me
to
turn
this
into
a
single
family
project
and
we're
taking
a
massive
financial
hit
by
moving
it
from
the
four
plex.
X
X
C
C
T
It's
important
to
understand
the
background
on
this
property
and
why
we
are
here
today
for
the
re-zoning
of
2406
woodland.
I
should
not
and
give
you
give
you
the
background.
That's
not
my
place!
That
should
be
sue
donovan,
but
I
will
just
say
that,
as
chairperson
for
the
woodland
heights
organization,
zoning
committee,
this
property
and
with
all
the
complaints
has
taken
and
kept
me
pretty
busy
for
more
than
a
year.
T
T
T
T
We
have
many
many
middle
housing
opportunities
in
woodland
heights.
We
have
right
now
within
woodland
heights,
many
large
apartments,
duplexes
and
conversion
quad
conversions,
and
for
the
last
30
years
we
have
been
trying
to
encourage
homeownership
and
to
give
an
example
on
that,
we
have
many
people.
T
So
our
our
rental
right
now
is
in
woodland
heights
is,
we
are
64
rental
and
we
need
more
home
ownership
opportunities
when
we
were
first
designated,
we've
had
two
plans
1991
and
2013.,
and
we
have
made
great
progress.
We
when
we
started
this
program
and
we
were
distressed,
we
had
almost
30
percent
in
poor
or
very
poor
condition.
T
T
C
C
W
X
Thank
you.
I
appreciate
it
lila.
I
hear
your
concerns
and-
and
I
do
appreciate
them
as
a
neighbor
traffic
and
parking
along
woodland-
is
a
issue.
It
has
been
an
issue
with
this
property
and
the
condition
of
this
property
has
been
an
issue.
It's
been
heavy
on
my
heart,
and
this
is
why
we're
trying
to
get
it
adjusted
as
the
previous
condition
allowed.
If
that
conversion
of
the,
if
that
fourplex
conversion
maintained,
I
don't
see
a
way
to
solve
that
long
term
or
short
term.
X
I
understand
the
observing
erosion,
but
keep
in
mind
we
we
are
taking
off
what
was
four
units
we're
taking
two
units
away
from
what
it
was
a
year
ago.
I
do
acknowledge
that
the
november
time
frame
lapsed
after
the
one
year.
I
recognize
this
and
I
don't
want
to
make
an
argument
for
continued
use,
but
we
all,
I
think
we
all-
can
acknowledge
that
kovit
was
challenging
rental
of
moratorium.
X
K
A
I
would
anticipate
that
it
will
we
we
just
got
that
sketch.
That
kyle
showed
you
in
his
presentation
this
afternoon,
so
we
haven't
had
time
to
really
fully
vet
it.
I
I
in
glancing
at
it.
I
expect
that
there'll
need
to
be
some
type
2
relief
for
the
parking
that's
proposed.
That
would
need
to
come
before
the
commission,
but
without
doing
a
full
review.
I
can't
guarantee
they
would
need
to
come
before
the
commission,
but
it's
highly
likely
based
off
of
what
we've
seen
so
far.
A
M
M
M
M
I
was
very
happy
to
hear
the
lady
from
the
neighborhood
that
said,
they're
down
to
three
properties
or
something
that
are
nuisances
and
that's
fantastic,
and
I
also
believe
that
going
from
a
four
to
a
two
is
reasonable
and
I
understand
the
concept
of
having
as
many
owner
occupied
single-family
homes
as
we
can.
I
understand
that
concept,
but
I
also
think
there's
room
for
rental
properties
and
room
for
duplexes,
so
I'm
gonna
be
in
support
of
the
applicant's
request.
C
F
K
F
I
Y
Y
Y
It's
located
on
the
east
side
of
43rd
street,
just
north
of
university
avenue,
n5
district
zoning
predominantly
in
the
area,
but
the
property
also
lies
within
a
community
node
that
you
can't
see
on
this
one,
but
the
community
nodes
are
of
extends
around
in
this
rough
region.
The
property
also
is
situated
within
the
franklin
area.
Special
investment
district.
Y
Y
Y
Y
The
request
in
front
of
you
tonight
is
simply
to
consider
re-zoning
it
to
an
n52
which
would
allow
a
two
household
unit
on
that
property.
Instead
of
a
single
family,
the
actual
design
would
be
reviewed
separately
later,
if
at
all,
the
rezoning
is
approved
tonight
and
at
that
time,
if
it
is
a
proposed
accessory
household
unit,
then
it
would
be
reviewed
for
conformance
with
the
regulations
laid
out
in
chapter
135.,
where
it
would
need
to
meet
requirements
of
house
type
d
which
is
allowed
in
an
n5
district.
Y
You
have
the
staff
report
in
your
package.
The
staff
has
analyzed
the
project
submitted
in
light
of
the
intent
and
requirements
of
the
zoning
code.
One
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
quickly
point
out.
There
are
two
corrections
in
the
staff
report
and
I
can
go
through
them
as
we're
going
down.
But
again,
as
mentioned
previously
in
the
other
zoning
cases
that
you
heard
tonight,
one
of
the
main
criteria,
one
of
the
main
things
that
staff
looks
for
is
conformance
with
the
plan
dsm
creating
a
tomorrow
plan.
Land
use
designation
in
this
case.
Y
Y
We
also
analyzed
it
for
what's
written
in
the
franklin
area,
special
investment
district,
which
also
calls
out
to
increasing
housing
type
diversity
in
the
neighborhood
and
in
the
area.
One
of
the
other
things
that
was
also
brought
forth
during
this
discussion
was
that
a
invest
dsm,
which
is
the
entity
that's
been
put
in
place
to
implement.
The
special
investment
district
goals
is
has
expressed
in.
I
think
they
are
working
with
the
applicant
to
put
together
a
brand
assuming
the
rezoning
goes
through
and
and
an
ahu
is
allowed,
invest
des
moines.
Y
Y
Y
The
two
corrections
that
I
mentioned
earlier
that
would
be
required
is,
if
you
look
at
page
three,
it
stays.
It
states
that
the
n52
district
allows
for
one
and
two
household
dwellings
that
are
in
accordance
with
either
house
type
b
and
c.
It
should
be
just
house
type
d,
that's
allowed
in
n5
the
same
house
type
d
would
be
allowed
for
an
n52
district
as
well.
The
second
correction
is
part.
A
of
that
staff
recommendation
staff
in
this
case
is
recommending
that
n52
district
be
found
in
conformance
with
plan
dsm.
Y
And
we
also
received
one
letter
that
was
signed
and
attested
that
is
not
in
support
of
the
rezoning
I'm
going
to
quick
just
to
quickly
summarize
this
letter.
This
is
from
the
neighbor
who
is
situated
immediately
not
to
the
subject
property,
and
the
few
concerns
that
were
kind
of
brought
up
was
that
the
proposed
ahu
would
decrease.
Y
At
this
point,
we
have
no
known
drainage
issues
that
I'm
aware
of,
but
that
was
one
of
the
things
mentioned
by
the
letter.
The
third
thing
was
also,
I
believe,
is
concerned
that
the
ahu
might
be
converted
to
a
rental
unit
sometime
in
the
future
and
that
might
have
a
negative
impact
on
the
area
as
well.
Y
Here's
the
concern
map,
that's
the
property
which
that's
a
property
located,
not
which
is
against
it.
The
applicant
also
conducted
sort
of
a
virtual
outreach
by
sending
out
an
email
to
all
neighbors
back
in
march,
and
he
has
provided
a
summary
of
that
neighborhood
outreach
in
that
neighborhood
outreach.
Y
M
Chair,
yes,
this,
this
is
great
watching
a
new,
maybe
you
said
it.
I
missed
it,
but
did
you
by
chance
or
do
you
have
the
ability
to
tell
us?
I
live
probably
two
blocks
from
this
house
and
I
know
there
are
other
accessory
dwellings
in
this
neighborhood.
Do
you
have
any
sense
of
that
number
or
of
that
or.
Y
C
Z
Hello,
thank
you.
My
name
is
greg
lorang.
I
am
the
the
resident
at
1235
43rd
street.
The
thank
you
again
for
holding
this
meeting.
I
know
it's
getting
late,
so
I
won't
take
up
the
entire
time.
The
reason
for
the
rezoning
request
is
to
build
an
adu.
We
want
to
provide
a
sort
of
a
a
single
level
home
for
my
mother
to
to
live
in
for
the
for
the
foreseeable
future.
Z
You
know
11
months
of
the
year,
they
are
not
there,
but
certainly
the
we.
We
want
to
maintain
the
the
the
feel
of
the
neighborhood
and
we'll
continue
to
do
that
through
our
design
process,
taking
cues
from
the
the
current
structure
to
put
them
there,
but
certainly
the
idea
is
not
to
create
any
sort
of
obnoxious
building
in
the
neighborhood.
We
want
to
create
a
functional
location.
Z
The
mention
of
the
office
space
above
certainly
would
raise
the
height
of
the
building,
but
we
believe
it
should
only
be
maybe
a
story
and
a
half.
This
is
not
going
to
be
a
a
very
disruptive
physically
building.
Certainly
the
construction,
I
think,
can
could
be
a
problem,
but
no
thank
you
for
your
time
and-
and
we
certainly
hope
to
move
forward
with
the
project.
A
AA
AA
AA
Indeed,
the
the
footprint
of
the
garage
is
actually
substantially
the
same
as
the
existing
garage,
and
then
the
accessory
household
unit
is
pushed
towards
the
back
of
the
property
kind
of
attached
to
the
back
side
of
the
of
the
garage.
So
it
doesn't
change
the
the
the
underlying
massing
from
the
street
again
we're
taking
care
to
align
the
design
with
general
character
and
form
of
the
primary
structure,
and
it's
actually
approximately
the
same
scale
as
the
accessory
garage
structure
immediately
jason
adjacent.
AA
I
think
that
so
I
think
that
that's
just
kind
of
I
just
wanted
to
add
a
little
bit
about
about
sort
of
the
design
intent
here,
even
though
I
know
that's
not
up
for
review
as
part
of
this.
But
fundamentally
what
we're
doing
is
is
staying
with
and
supporting
the
intent
of
the
of
the
zoning
ordinance
and
the
plain
dsm
overlying
goals.
So
thank
you
and
I'd
be
happy
to
answer
any
questions
relating
to
the
design
portion.
If
you
have
them.
A
A
AB
AB
As
I
understand
it,
we
were
delighted
to
see
that
there
would
be
some
diversity
in
architecture
and
knowing
that
there
are
other
adus
in
the
neighborhood,
we
don't
find
it
incongruous
to
to
the
the
layout
or
the
the
feel
of
the
neighborhood,
and
I
also
would
like
to
voice
my
surprise
also
that
our
backyard
neighbor
would
object
to
this.
Considering
they
don't
actually
live
here,
and
you
know
I
I
want
to
support
greg
and
alyssa
who
actually
do
live
in
this
neighborhood
to
further
live
in
this
neighborhood.
AB
C
J
Hi,
this
is
actually
kelly
bronzink.
I
live
at
1249,
43rd
street.
We
are
in
opposition
of
this
edition.
First
of
all,
I'd
like
to
address
the
comment
that
was
made
about
mr
and
mrs
darden,
mr
and
mrs
jardin.
Do
currently
not
live
all
the
time
in
their
home,
but
within
the
next
year
we'll
be
living
here
full-time
and
they
have
a
vested
interest
in
this
property
we
as
well.
J
J
J
C
AC
AC
We
have
had
a
lot
of
illness
and
a
lot
of
restrictions
from
where
we're
finishing
up
towards
retirement
before
we
could
move
as
planned,
which
was
supposed
to
be
in
2020.
That
didn't
happen.
But
meanwhile
we
do
spend
a
lot
of
time
there
in
normal
years,
coming
three
times
a
month,
sometimes
and
spending
a
total
of
half
a
month
between
those
fixes,
and
so
we
do
have
a
vested
interest,
because
this
is
going
to
be
our
retirement
home,
which
is
right
around
the
corner,
and
so
it's
not
like.
AC
But
anyway,
I
just
wanted
to
say
those
things.
I
hope
that
we
will
be
able
to
meet
factory
neighbors,
to
think
we're,
not
there
and
and
kind
of.
I
hope
that
that
will
be
very
soon
with
the
relaxing
of
the
restrictions
coming
out
of
some
bad
health
times.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
the
chance
that
we
respect
the
requests
that,
let's
be
denied.
C
C
Z
Sorry
about
that
anyways.
Thank
you
yeah.
So
thank
you
for
everyone
voicing
support
and
and
voicing
their
concerns
or
detraction
really
again.
I
I
just
want
to
reiterate
that
our
our
intention
for
this
project
is
to
create
a
place
for
a
multi-generational
family
to
exist.
My
brother
lives
on
just
on
the
other
side
of
kingman,
maybe
about
two
blocks
away.
Currently,
my
mother
is
on
40th
street,
just
east
of
us
in
the
drake
neighborhood,
but
she
would
be
coming
here.
Z
The
idea
again
is
to
provide
a
place
for
our
growing
family.
My
wife
is
pregnant,
we're
having
another
little
boy
in
july,
and
certainly
the
part
of
the
plan
is
to
create
the
office
space
above
the
garage
to
provide
myself
with
a
a
safe
place,
to
work
and
to
open
up
some
additional
space
in
the
main
home
for
the
the
growing
family,
but
certainly
the
single
single
level
living
space
for
my
brother
is
really
the
primary
concern
here.
C
M
Madam
chair,
this
is
greg
lucky,
I'm
also
going
to
be
in
support
of
this
reselling
request,
while
I'm
eager
to
get
into
the
architecture
and
the
massing
and
the
density
and
the
size
and
all
those
things.
What
I
understood
from
a
new
is
that's
coming
back
to
us
and
we
could
end
all
that
then,
and
I
do
believe
the
neighborhood
will
have
an
opportunity
in
the
neighbors
to
comment
on
that.
M
Y
Discussion
hi:
this
is
anu
here
again
just
wanted
to
clarify
one
thing
greg.
This
will
come
back
to
the
commission.
Only
I
mean
assuming
this
rezoning
is
approved
and
we
then
start
looking
at
what
the
design
is
proposed
if
there
any
type,
two
design
alternatives
that
are
needed.
That
is
the
only
situation
that
this
would
come
back
to
the
plan
and
zoning
commission.
AB
F
E
C
A
That's
chairman's
commission,
jason,
venice
playing
staff.
I
just
wanted
to
share
with
the
commission
that
that
we
are
not
going
to
be
meeting
in
person
until
august.
I
think
at
a
previous
meeting
I
had
mentioned
it
was
looking
like
we
would
start
in
july,
and
the
reason
for
that
is
that
we
are.
The
city
is
in
the
process
of
trying
to
acquire
the
types
of
equipment
we
would
need
to
do.