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From YouTube: 3-21-22 City Council
Description
Des Moines City Council regular meeting on Monday, March 21, 2022.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/CouncilMeetings
A
Good
afternoon
everybody
welcome
to
our-
hopefully
here
soon
our
city
council
meeting,
but
we're
going
to
start
with
the
municipal
housing
agency
governing
board
meeting
and
it's
4
46.
So
I'm
going
to
ask
the
the
clerk
to
please
take
roll
of
our
board
members.
Please.
B
D
A
E
A
F
F
The
budget,
then,
is
continue
or
excuse
me
included
within
the
city's
entire
budget
that
we
have
on
the
agenda
with
the
council
later
there
may
have
been
some
confusion,
because
the
numbers
for
the
entire
budget
was
shared
in
the
same
letter.
In
the
same
communication,
that's
been
labeled
22-126.
G
F
F
A
All
right,
we
have
a
move
in
a
second
and
I'll.
Ask
the
public,
if
there's
anyone
that
would
like
to
make
a
comment
regarding
the
municipal
housing
agency,
a
budget
seeing.
I
A
A
F
F
Just
again
for
clarification,
this
is
the
item
that
approves
next
year's
budget.
The
first
item
that
was
spoken
and
voted
on
was
for
an
amendment
of
the
current
year,
so
this
item
number
four
here
is
for
next
year's
budget.
C
A
A
I
K
I
A
All
right
could
I
get
a
motion
to
adjourn
a
second
moved
in
second,
in
all
in
favor,
say
aye.
C
A
Opposed
I
passes
municipal
housing
agencies
it's
adjourned.
Thank
you.
L
A
We
have
worked
with
the
healthy
state
initiative
and
I'm
going
to
have
aaron
kind
of
come
up
and
explain
it
a
little
bit,
but
we
had
an
opportunity
with
the
us
conference
of
mayors
to
make
application,
and
this
is
about
healthy
foods
in
feeding
and
getting
healthy
foods
to
people
that
that
really
need
it.
But
aaron
I'm
going
to
let
you
explain
it.
M
M
So
physicians,
like
dr
danley
at
broadlawns,
will
be
able
to
prescribe
her
patients
and
their
families
prescriptions
for
fresh
fruits
and
vegetables.
They
can
take
those
and
they'll
spend
them
like
cash
at
iowa,
owned
grocery
stores
and
iowa
farmers
markets,
so
working
to
make
iowa
the
healthiest
state
in
the
nation
and
starting
with
the
city
of
des
moines
and
our
citizens
right
here.
So
we're
very
excited
and
we
appreciate
your
support
mayor
county.
K
E
E
A
Also,
I'd
like
to
acknowledge,
but
quite
frankly
say
that
we
as
a
council,
our
hearts,
go
out
to
the
students
at
east
high
school
into
the
parents
into
all
those
in
this
city.
Our
word
council
person,
linda
westergaard,
wants
to
make
a
quick
statement
and
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
her
right
now.
E
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
two
weeks
ago
we
were
all
shaken
when
a
drive-by
shooting
killed
a
15-year-old
and
wounded
two
east
high
students.
Six
teenagers
were
arrested
and
charged
in
an
instant
many
lives
were
changed
forever.
Tonight
I
want
to
acknowledge
and
thank
the
police
department
and
the
fire
department
for
their
professionalism
and
fast
work.
E
E
E
Over
the
next
week,
several
groups
met
to
talk
about
the
tragic
event
I
met
with
parents,
whose
kids
will
forever
be
impacted.
We
must
all
work
together
to
stop
the
violence
in
our
city,
and
this
means
every
resident.
Our
faith-based
organizations
and
other
non-profits
must
work
together.
The
time
for
talk
is
over,
and
now
we
need
every
step
every
stakeholder
to
step
forward.
E
I'm
proud
of
what
our
city
is
doing.
We
will
be
implementing
our
2022
social
equity
recreation
program
for
youth
that
will
be
expanded
into
four
neighborhood
parks.
Our
parks
and
recreation
department
also
offers
a
scholarship
program
for
youth
activities,
as
we
don't
want
anyone
to
be
left
out.
I
printed
this.
E
This
is
on
the
website,
our
city
website,
if
you
want
to
take
a
look
at
what
we're
doing
in
parks
to
bring
activities
to
kids
in
our
community,
the
we
also
have
a
scholarship
program
so
for
five
dollars
and
if
you
can't
afford
five
dollars,
we'll
find
a
way
to
make
it
work.
But
we
have
programming
325
days
a
year
in
this
city
for
youth,
I've
talked
to
ben
page
from
from
park
and
rack,
and
that's
325
days.
E
We
can
work
to
get
these
kids
off
the
streets,
so
now's
the
time
we
need
everybody
to
step
forward
and
and
get
these
kids
active
and
busy
with
things
gun,
youth
gun
violence
is
a
growing
and
alarming
phenomenon
in
this
country,
and
des
moines
is
not
immune
to
the
problem.
As
a
council,
we
must
continue
to
seek
solutions
and
work
more
urgently
with
our
community
leaders
who
have
fought
this
struggle
for
far
too
long
with
that.
If
we
could
just
take
a
couple
of
minutes
of
silence,
I
would
appreciate
that.
Thank
you.
N
A
All
right-
and
I
will
say
quickly
on
the
amendments
item
21i-
was
added
as
a
recommendation
from
council
member
westerguard
to
reappoint
william
c
page.
The
planning
and
zoning
commission
39
was
added
downtown
farmers
market
banners
request
and
52
b
was
withdrawn.
It's
an
item
moved
to
the
next
agenda
for
consideration
and
item.
61
is
a
roll
call
which
is
on
the
regular
agenda
items
so
with
that.
A
I
will
ask
everybody
to:
I
guess
we
can
just
say
a
voice
vote
all
in
favor,
say
aye
aye.
J
A
Item
three
this
evening
are
items
three
through
fifty
eight.
These
are
routine
items
that
will
be
enacted
by
one
roll
call
vote
without
separate
discussion.
I
will
add
that
item
seven
council
member
vos
wishes
to
speak
in
item
15
council
member
westerguard
wishes
to
speak
in
votes,
no
I'd.
A
C
A
A
We
also
have
one
vacation
hearing
in
one
conveyance
hearing
hearings
on
the
cip
budget
and
budget
amendments
and
a
new
budget,
an
item
to
dismiss
hearings
for
which
there
will
be
no
public
comment
and
several
public
improvement
hearings
as
a
reminder
for
the
zoning
items
only
which
are
the
61
two
and
three
we
will
hear
from
the
parties
in
interest
first
and
then
from
the
general
public.
A
The
parties
in
interest
in
the
zoning
again
are
included
only
the
applicant
and
those
persons
living
within
the
250
feet
of
the
property
to
be
rezoned,
to
whom
the
city
has
sent
notices.
After
all,
the
parties
in
interest
have
commented.
A
We
will
open
it
up
to
any
member
of
the
public
for
germaine
comments
and
to
add
in
reorganizing
the
parties
in
interest
to
zoning
item
to
speak.
I
will
ask
everyone
not
to
step
to
the
microphone
unless
you
are
either
the
applicant
or
live
within
that
250
feet
of
the
the
zoning.
Anyone
who
approaches
the
mic
before
their
time
will
be
considered,
disruptive
and
will
not
be
recognized
for
the
remainder
of
the
meeting
and
will
be
required
to
leave
the
building.
A
So
please,
until
I
call
on
general
public
for
zoning
items,
or
you
will
not
be
called
on
for
the
remainder
of
the
evening
and
again
required
to
leave
the
building.
After
all,
the
parties
in
interest
have
been
called
upon.
The
general
public
comment
it
not
to
exceed
one
minute
per
person
to
a
maximum
of
seven
minutes
will
be
called
upon
for
germaine
public
comments
unless
the
hearing
is
ended
sooner
for
failure
to
make
those
germain
comments,
or
there
are
no
comments
for
the
cip
budget.
Amendment
hearing
and
new
budget
hearings.
A
This
evening,
any
interested
person
may
make
germaine
comments
and
not
to
exceed
one
minute
per
person
for
maximum
five
minutes
on
those
other
hearings,
unless
the
hearing
is
ended
sooner
for
failure
to
make
germaine
comments
or
when
those
comments
cease
is
a
reminder
on
the
public
improvement
hearings,
only
comments
as
to
the
plans,
the
specifications,
form
of
documents
and
engineers
estimate
and
the
low
bidder
designation
will
be
considered
germaine.
All
other
comments
will
be
considered
non-germane
and
for
the
item
dismissing
bids.
A
is
on
the
conveyance
of
an
excess
city
property
located
known
as
31
east
creston
avenue
to
daniel
garcia
for
500,
we'll
open
it
up
and
ask
for
any
germaine
comments
from
the
general
public
one
minute
per
person
up
to
five
anybody
to
speak
on
this
item.
I
H
B
A
Choose
alternative
a
to
deny
the
proposed
amendment
to
the
planned
dsm.
Creating
our
tomorrow
comprehensive
future
land
use
plan,
designation
and
rezoning,
or
choose
alternative
b
to
approve
the
proposed
rezoning
from
rx1
mixed
use.
District
to
i1
industrial
district
subject
to
conditions
acceptable
to
the
city,
and
the
owners
requires
six
out
of
seven
votes
to
pass.
A
P
Seeing
none,
mr
mayor,
all
right,
I'm
happy
to
move
item
61
a.
O
I'm
a
little
confused
as
to
why
we
want
to
deny
this
just
generally
that
the
surrounding
neighbors,
in
all
of
the
planning
and
zoning
documents,
were
supportive
of
the
rezoning,
and
I
guess
it
just
looked
like
it-
was
unlikely
that
if
we
were
to
deny
the
rezoning
that
they
would
get
the
adjustment
to
continue
what
they've
been
doing
there
and
it
looked
like
it.
Hadn't
been
an
issue
for
any
of
the
neighbors.
So.
P
This
would
make
this
rezoned
as
industrial,
which
is
on
a
corridor
rezoning,
runs
with
the
land
and
outdoor
storage
on
and
on
a
corridor.
I
think,
is
a
very
limiting
limiting
approach.
So
I'm
not
in
favor
of
changing
the
zoning
in
such
a
way.
There
are
not
other
industrially
zoned
areas
in
that
corridor,
and
I
just
don't
think
that
that's
the
appropriate
use
for
what
we
want.
P
Our
corridors
to
be
even
if
folks
are
not
objecting,
and
we
would
limit
our
ability
to
alter
this
if
he
sold
it
to
someone
who,
for
example,
did
not
did
not
have
as
minimal
in
outdoor
storage
as
the
current
occupant
does.
We
would
also
perhaps
limit
our
ability
if
that
occupant
started
or
changed
the
way
that
they
were
conducting
outdoor
storage
so
from
a
corridor
perspective.
I'm
not
supportive
of
changing
this
to
an
industrial
use
when
the
surrounding
uses
are
are
mixed,
use
and.
O
I
do
agree
with
all
that.
I
guess
it
was
just
the
that
we
would
be
able
to
be
subject
to
conditions
acceptable
to
the
city
and
the
owners
that
we
can
put
those
limitations
on
the
lot.
That
would
follow
the
land
moving
forward.
O
P
Again,
I
I
think
this
is
the
more
appropriate
way
to
address
this
and
I'm
comfortable
with
with
the
motion
on
on
this
item.
J
Mr
mayor
yeah,
can
I
just
jump
in
real,
quick,
I'm
very
familiar
with
the
area
and
when
that
when
that
was
purchased
and
it
came
in
front
of
us,
I
believe
I
I
would.
I
would
agree
with
josh
100
that
this
is
not
the
appropriate
use.
They
knew
what
they
were
going
to
use
it
for,
and
I
think
we
asked
some
of
the
questions
when
they
when
they
went
into
this
building
and
where
they
were
going
to
store
some
of
the
things.
J
So
it's
it's
not
an
appropriate
use
of
what
they
want
to
do.
So
I
I
appreciate
that
the
word
councilman
stepping
up
and
taking
this,
and
I
would
I
would
support
him.
100
percent.
A
All
right
item
62
is
on
a
request
from
oaks
on
floor
llc
to
amend
plan
dsm,
creating
our
tomorrow
future
land
use
designation
for
property
located
at
30,
fleur
drive
and
30
20
fluid
drive
from
low
density
residential
to
medium
density,
residential
to
rezone,
from
n3a
neighborhood
district
to
limited
nx1
neighborhood
district
to
allow
development
of
approximately
14
row
homes.
Dwelling
units
you're
asked
to
choose
either
alternative
a
which
is
to
deny
the
proposed
amendment
to
the
plan
dsm.
A
I'll
ask
first,
if
there's
parties
in
interest
in
the
property
and
the
applicant
first,
if
he
would
like
to
speak
or
make
any
comments
this
evening,.
A
Okay,
do
you
want
him
at
the
the
lectern
or
at
the
microphone.
Q
R
I
guess
I'll
talk.
Thank
you.
My
name
is
adam
seren
and
I'm
the
owner
of
the
oaks
on
floor
15
unit
or
14
14
to
15
unit
townhome
development.
R
First
of
all,
I
want
to
thank
all
of
your
all
of
you,
mr
mayor
and
counselors,
for
your
time
in
this
matter,
in
your
transparency
of
being
available
via
text
and
phone
and
email
and,
and
I
really
appreciate
that,
working
with
the
city
of
des
moines,
we're
going
from
in
3b
neighborhood
zoning,
which
is
house
type
b
to
an
nx1
type.
R
Zoning
little
history
about
me,
grew
up
on
the
south
side,
moved
out
west
for
many
years
and
recently
purchased
the
home
in
the
southwestern
hills,
neighborhood,
and
so
I'm
a
member
of
george
davis's,
wonderful,
neighborhood
association.
I
live
about
three
blocks
from
this
current
site
right
now.
R
The
I'm
kind
of
the
city
of
des
moines
has
come
out
with
the
new
tax
abatement
schedule
and
I
kind
of
wanted
to
go
back
and
look
at
other
municipalities
in
cities
and
kind
of
see
what
they're
doing
for
town
homes
and
that's
what
this
slide
shows.
West
des
moines
issued
161
townhome
permits,
waukee
was
157,
ankeny,
256
town
homes
and
des
moines
issued
56
town
home
permits
fiscal
year.
R
2021
next
slide,
so
this
kind
of
shows
the
need
for
this
type
of
housing,
and
I
think
why
the
city
of
des
moines
has
incentivized
this
there's
a
downtown
workforce.
Housing
study,
I'm
sure
we're
all
familiar
with
des
moines
is
expected
to
be
57
000
housing
units
short
over
the
next
20
years.
This
is
2850
housing
units
per
year.
R
248
permits
were
issued
in
2021,
so
we're
less
than
10
shy
of
that
projected
number.
Although
this
particular
housing
is
not
considered
workforce
housing,
12
percent
of
this
number
is
for
housing
units
over
350
000.
This
equals
6800
homes
per
year
needed
in
this
price
range
or
340
units
per
year,
and
I
expect
this
is
why
the
city
of
des
moines
has
incentivized
this
type
of
medium
density
row,
home
construction
with
a
nine
year
tax
abatement.
R
This
talks
a
little
bit
about
the
plan.
I'm
sure
we
you
all
passed
this
nine
year,
tax
abatement
put
in
effect
on
february
1st
this
medium
density
row,
home
housing,
has
been
recognized
by
the
city
leaders
as
an
important
part
of
the
long-term
housing
goals
for
the
city
of
des
moines
and
denying
the
zoning
amendment
would
send
a
message
to
other
developers.
It
would
be
detrimental
to
promoting
this
type
of
infill
housing
in
des
moines.
R
Part
of
this
was
a
term
called
missing
middle
housing
booked
by
daniel
parallac.
The
term
missing
middle
has
two
meetings.
I
think
it's
very
misunderstood
in
many
ways.
First
and
most
importantly,
it
represents
the
middle
scale
of
buildings
between
single-family
homes
and
large
apartments
or
condo
buildings.
R
Secondly,
the
definition
of
middle
relates
to
the
affordability
or
attainability
level.
These
types
of
historically
delivered
attainable
housing
choices
to
the
middle
income,
families
without
subsidies
and
continue
to
play
a
role
in
providing
homes
to
the
middle
income
market
segment.
That
being
said,
it
is
important
to
note
missing.
Middle
housing
is
not
exclusively
targeted.
A
middle-income
market
there's
a
large
pinup
demand
for
these
housing
types
at
the
upper
end
of
the
market,
as
well
as
from
downsizing
baby
boomers,
single
person,
households
and
millennials,
who
want
walkable
living
that
was
quoted
directly
from
the
book.
R
So
you
know,
a
lot
of
people
have
been
this
missing
middle
is
has
been
kind
of
controversial
in
ways
with
with
what
it's,
the
meaning
of
it,
and
you
know
I
think
the
city
has
adopted
this
term,
but
it
doesn't
always
mean
it's
necessarily
affordable.
It
just
means
it's
affordability
is
a
piece
of
it
and
I
think
that's
definitely
important,
but
it
also
means
the
middle
style
of
building
between
transitioning
between
corridors
des
moines,
clean
energy
initiative.
So
this
talks
about
row,
home
construction
and
the
all
electric
energy
efficiency.
R
Thanks
to
the
efforts
of
our
mayor
and
councilmember
manobaum
des
moines
is
a
national
leader
in
clean
energy
to
reach
the
goal
to
become
24.
7
carbon
free
electric
by
2035
des
moines
needs
this
type
of
all-electric
shared
wall
housing.
This
is
why
the
city
has
decided
to
incentivize
rojo
row
home
construction
with
a
nine-year
tax
abatement.
The
proximity
to
the
dart
bus
stop
walkability
with
new
sidewalks
connecting
to
the
bike
trail
electrical
vehicle
charging
stations,
all
these
contributing
factors
align
with
des
moines,
clean
energy
goals,.
R
Market
demand
and
economic
impact,
southwestern
hills
is,
is
one
of
a
prominent
neighborhood
in
des
moines.
It's
an
aging
population
and,
I
believe,
there's
a
demand
for
this
type
of
housing
in
southwestern
hills.
I've
spoken
to
residents
a
little
short
story,
the
on
the
corner
of
park
floor,
mr
mrs
ross.
They
were
looking
they've
been
they've,
lived
in
the
park
floor,
they've
raised
their
family
on
southern
hills,
drive,
they
live
on
the
corner
park
floor
and
it
just
broke
my
heart
to
listen
to
them.
R
Talk
about
looking
at
town
homes
in
king's
landing
in
west
des
moines
and
she's.
Like
I
don't
know
what
I'm
going
to
do
with
my
vet.
I
don't
know
where
I'm
going
to
go.
You
know,
and
I
was
just.
I
couldn't
believe
that
she
was
going
to
leave
a
community
that
she's
been
at
for
45
years
and
all
of
her
kids
have
grown
up,
and
I
just
we
don't
have
this
type
of
housing
for
this
western
corridor
of
des
moines.
R
It's
just
not
there
and
I
believe
there
is
demand
for
this
type
of
housing,
townhome
housing
for
the
southwestern
hills
residents.
It's
keeping
the
residents
here,
it's
keeping
them
from
it's
it's,
the
suburban
sprawl
is,
is
what
we're
trying
to
eliminate.
A
You
may
have
questions
regarding
that
stormwater
and
the
light
pollution,
the
tree
mitigation,
so
if
you'll
remain
around
we'll,
we
may
have
to
call
you
back.
Okay,
sure,
thank
you
for
your
time.
A
Let's
now
ask
is:
are
there
any
other
individuals
who
are
within
250
feet
of
this
development?
Who
would
like
to
make
comment
at
this
time.
S
S
However,
zoning
is
not
appropriate
if
it
is
for
the
financial
benefit
of
an
individual
property
owner,
but
detrimental
to
the
surrounding
area.
Spot
zoning
for
the
sole
benefit
of
the
landowner
and,
contrary
to
the
comprehensive
plan,
is
unreasonable
to
be
upheld
as
legal
spot
zoning.
There
must
be
a
substantial
and
reasonable
grounds
or
basis
for
the
discrimination
when
one
lot
or
tract
is
singled
out
by
a
mandatory
ordinance,
removing
restrictions
that
are
imposed
upon
the
remaining
portions
of
the
same
zoning
district
in
determining
the
validity
of
spot
zoning.
S
It
is
clear
that
proposed
rezoning
does
not
meet
the
requirements
of
the
iowa
supreme
court
to
be
deemed
legal.
This
determination,
along
with
the
recommendation
from
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
and
the
hundreds
of
petition
signatures
from
nearby
residents
opposed
to
this
development,
is
more
than
enough
reason
to
object.
This
rezoning,
I've
read
the
plan
dsm
and
I
understand
the
desire
to
increase
density
on
main
quarters.
However,
nowhere
does
it
say
that
homes
will
be
destroyed
to
meet
this
objective.
S
In
fact,
two
weeks
ago
we
had
an
association
meeting
mr
councilman
obama
and
mr
mayor.
You
attended
and
if
I
could
quote
the
president
of
the
board
when
he
says
just
to
be
clear,
I
don't
see
anywhere
in
the
plans
where
a
home
would
be
removed
now
to
accept
a
recommendation
from
the
association
board
when
the
president
of
that
board
doesn't
fully
understand
the
scope
of
the
project
would
be
egregious,
and
if
I
could
leave
you
just
with
one
quote,
adam
said
it
just
a
second
ago
talking
about
mrs
ross.
T
T
300
neighbors
in
the
third
ward
have
signed
a
petition
opposing
the
rezoning,
that's
all
in
the
50321
area
code,
the
503,
sorry,
zip
code
and
503
150
code
and
within
the
200
foot
proximity
most
of
those
houses
are
on
our
petition
list.
As
up
as
opposing
pnz
also
noted
in
recorded
meeting
that
southwestern
hills,
neighborhood
association
had
not
represented
the
true
opinion
of
the
opposition
to
this
project,
so
that
is
recorded
out
on
youtube
for
anybody
to
go
out
and
hear.
T
T
I
and
many
neighbors
have
lived
in
this
neighborhood
almost
40
years.
We
do
not
want
to
be
pushed
out
by
someone's
vision
that
can
only
be
accomplished
by
rezoning
of
a
certain
spot.
Less
than
an
acre
higher
residential
and
retail
density
zones
already
exist
further
down
along
the
floor
corridor.
North
of
this
proposed
area
at
grace,
lake
and
bell
avenue,
and
our
small
pocket
zone
of
fluor
should
stay
protected
by
the
n3a
zone,
which
we
are
in.
T
What
benefit
does
des
moines
receive
from
rezoning?
This
small
spot
of
land
bluer
drive
is
our
gateway.
Greeting
dignitaries
and
presidents.
Do
we
want
ourselves
represented
at
first
glance,
to
those
visitors
as
an
overrun,
build
up
of
stack
and
pack
housing
or
a
beautiful
established
section
of
floor
homes
that
greet
people
to
des
moines?
Our
neighborhoods
and
quality
of
life
is
what
attracts
people
here,
not
higher
density
stack
and
pack
housing.
T
We
implore
city
councilman
mandelbaum,
who
we
elected,
to
represent
the
true
voice
of
ward
3,
to
represent
that
voice
and
to
protect
our
community
from
the
spot
zoning
and
to
destroy
and
the
destruction
of
our
neighborhood.
We
asked
city
council
to
protect
us
and
vote
against
spot
rezoning
and
floor
drive,
hear
the
voices
that
have
been
raised
from
the
community.
Listen
to
them,
protect
us
from
driven
being
driven
out
of
our
homes
in
our
neighborhood
in
the
name
of
development.
V
Jessica
gardner
2118
willemere
drive
word
three.
She
heard
pronouns
I've
been
a
resident
of
the
neighborhood
for
16
years
and
that
time
I've
witnessed
at
least
a
dozen
vehicle
accidents
along
willmir
and
fleur,
hundreds
upon
hundreds
of
students
walking
along
willemir,
which
has
no
sidewalks
before
and
after
classes
at
brody
and
countless
flooding.
Events
along
willemere,
including
just
two
weekends
ago,
when
the
new
fluger
storm
sewers,
just
couldn't
keep
up
and
cause
localized
flooding
along
wilmer
to
increase
density
at
this
location
would
be
detrimental
to
the
well-established
neighborhood.
V
The
addition
of
15
units,
along
with
60
car
stalls,
would
more
than
double
the
entire
density
of
the
willomer
block.
Yes,
I
understand
60
additional
cars
may
not
be
a
big
deal
to
flew
or
drive,
but
these
cars
are
not
entering
fleur
they're
entering
willemere
drive
to
add
on
to
paula's
information
that
we
have
over
300
signatures
in
opposition.
It's
important
for
you
to
know
that
this
includes
100
of
willemir
drive
and
southwest
22nd
residents
and
of
the
17
houses
in
the
200
foot
range.
16
of
them
are
in
opposition.
V
W
W
W
I
mean
that's
pretty
big,
it's
very
vague.
It
says,
subject
to
conditions
acceptable
by
the
city
and
the
owners,
so
I
mean
what
are
said
conditions
anyway.
I
mean
a
is
pretty
clear.
I
don't
know
if
that
question
could
be
answered
by
any
of
you
or
if
I,
because
that's,
I
think,
that's
pretty
important.
F
W
F
So
mayor
and
council
members,
the
if,
if
choice
b
is
selected,
that
simply
starts
the
process
for
the
negotiations
to
take
place
to
see
if,
if
those
conditions
would
be
acceptable
to
both
parties,
okay,
and
so
that
those
have
not
been
set
at
this
point,
it
starts
that
process.
A
And
the
manager
made
a
bit
of
a
statement
on
it,
but
it
says,
subject
to
conditions
acceptable
and
as
the
manager
said,
that
starts
a
process.
Could
you
quickly
highlight
what
would
happen
if
alternative
b
was
selected
and
where
does
it
go
from
there
and
how
are
the
conditions
created
and
where
does
it
go?
Does
it
go
back
to
pnc,
or
does
it
end
up
back
here
after
the
conditions
are
created.
L
L
So
that's
why
the
hearing
would
be
continued
to
a
date
specific
and
we
would
take
your
direction
and
draft
conditions
that
would
deem
appropriate
we'd
bring
those
back
if
those
were
signed
by
the
applicant
and
again
it
would
be
posted
on
the
city's
website
on
the
agenda
and
then
the
council
would
continue
the
hearing
and
make
a
decision
at
that
point.
There'd
be
opportunity
for
comment
at
that
hearing.
O
Just
does
that
clarify
that
point
to
everyone
in
the
audience,
or
there's
still
questions
about
that.
Essentially
we
wouldn't
be
rezoning.
Today
we
would
be
rezoning
with
new
conditions
at
the
next
hearing.
L
U
My
name
is
laura
coyle.
She
her
pronouns,
I
live
at
3109
park,
plaza
drive
it's
a
little
bit
over
a
block
away
from
the
proposed
development,
and
I
ask
you
to
vote
to
deny
the
developer's
request
for
rezoning
for
the
proposed
oaks
on
floor
project.
Our
current
zoning
is
defined
as
to
preserve
the
scale
and
character
of
residential
neighborhoods
developed,
predominantly
during
the
1950s
1960s
and
1970s,
and
that
need
to
protect
our
historical
and
architecturally.
Significant
homes
still
exist
and
has
not
changed.
U
This
proposal
would
change
the
scale
and
character
of
our
neighborhood.
You
cannot
replace
these
historic
homes
once
they've
been
torn
out.
We
purchased
our
home
because
we
fell
in
love
with
our
mid-century
neighborhood.
It
is
unique
like
something
you
see
in
the
movies
from
the
1960s,
where
the
kids
run
from
yard
to
yard
playing
with
each
other.
U
If
you
approve
the
zoning
change
request,
these
row
homes
will
destroy
the
mid-century
aesthetic
of
our
neighborhood.
The
developer
has
stated
he
intends
to
continue
to
abide
by
additional
property
in
our
neighborhood
and
request
additional
rezoning
to
bulldoze
more
and
more
of
our
homes
and
replace
them
with
row
homes.
This
is
a
slippery
slope
and
if
you.
A
Thank
you
other
next
speaker.
Anyone
else
want
to
speak
on
this.
Yes,
sir
step
forward
and
we'll
say
that
the
jermaine
comments
you
got
one
minute.
Thank.
I
You,
sir,
mr
mayor,
council
members,
thank
you
for
allowing
me
to
speak.
My
name
is
george
davis,
I'm
president
of
the
southwestern
hills,
neighborhood
association,
and
we
support
this
project.
We
support
this
project
because
each
year
we
are
losing
more
and
more
citizens
in
our
neighborhood
that
have
no
other
housing
options
or
home
options
once
they
sell
their
home,
and
so
they
head
to
the
suburbs.
I
This
development
is
on
a
corridor
which
is
very
important
and
we
support
that
all
the
way
we
support
housing
and
we
want
to
keep
the
residents
of
des
moines
in
des
moines,
especially
in
our
neighborhood.
We've
held
several
open
meetings
on
this
and
I'm
very
much
aware
of
the
criterion
of
this
project
and
we've
held.
Like
I
said,
we've
had
three
we've
had
four
different
board
meetings.
I
Y
Y
We
don't
have
enough
options
for
the
60
plus
to
have
units
like
this.
There
is
a
high
demand
for
it
beyond
inventory.
Being
low
people
want
to
stay
in
this
area,
they
want
maintenance,
free
living.
These
have
proposed
elevators
in
them
to
keep
them,
and
I
also
believe
that
what's
being
missed
here
is
these
two
stories,
like
mr
davis
has
been
in
for
35
years.
They
we
have
to
resell
these
homes
and
keep
these
nate
these.
Y
These
neighborhoods
vibrant
with
new
families
coming
in
and
enrolling
in
the
school
system,
we're
losing
them
to
west
des
moines
and
waukee
and
ankeny,
because
it's
their
only
options
so
having
a
friends
family
that
live
in
the
area
and
having
a
petition
of
over
50
some
immediate
residents
that
that
that
are
in
support
of
this
project.
I
hope
you
strongly
consider
a
building.
X
Hi,
my
name
is
penny
harrison
and
I
am
on
the
southern
hills:
neighborhood
association
board
also
a
realtor
not
representing
the
builder
like,
like
it's
been
said
that
they
were
stack
and
pack
buildings.
They
are
not,
they
are
very
classy
and
there
is
a
need
for
this
type
of
homes
in
our
neighborhood.
People
are
moving
out
and
I
truly
believe
that
people
will
like
to
live
here
and
they
are
very
affordable,
but
they
are
not
low
income.
X
Z
Taylor,
webber
ward,
three,
so
I
I
vehemently
also
disagree
with
this
project.
As
someone
new
to
the
area
in
watford
south,
I
I
would
like
to
see
more
compact
homes
in
general,
we've
got
an
item
on
the
agenda
tonight
for
gray's
lake
that
we're
redeveloping
and
redistricting,
and
that
seems
like
a
great
area
to
put
a
lot
of
really
affordable
housing
that
we're
really
packing
that
density
in,
as
we
saw
a
couple
weeks
ago,
this
exact
area
flooded
aggressively,
even
with
the
most
money
we've
ever
spent
on
storm
water
management.
Z
We
still
failed
to
do
that,
so
continuing
to
develop
and
reconstruct
there
when
we're
already
failing
on
infrastructure
is
bad,
let
alone
all
the
great
points
that
have
been
brought
up.
Also
again,
neighborhood
associations
do
not
represent
the
best
interests
of
people.
Everyone
speaking
out
on
favor
of
this
project
is
for
money
and
profits.
The
people
who
spent
their
time
in
the
community
going
out
did
it
for
free.
They
knocked
doors.
AA
I
just
moved
to
3118
southwest
22nd
street
right
there
by
you
will
amir
and
the
reason
why
I
moved
two
years
ago.
That
is
because
of
the
characteristics
that
the
neighborhood
offered
I
went
there.
I
toured
the
entire
neighborhood.
I
liked
what
I
saw
and
now
it's
about
to
change.
I'm
here
to
ask
you
not
to
do
that.
The
number
should
speak
for
itself.
We
have
a
lot
more
people
present
here
unsatisfied
with
the
project
and
the
numbers
that
the
names
of
people
that
sign
should
speak
for
itself.
AA
The
developer
said
that
it's
sad
to
see
people
wanting
to
live
there
and
they
cannot,
but
I
think
it's
the
opposite.
We
are
going
to
lose
more
people
than
what
we
are
going
to
get.
We
are
going
to
lose
the
people
that
are
there
because
of
what
the
neighborhood
represent
for
us.
I
see
people,
kids,
walking
the
street,
it's
calm,
it's
safe
and
I'm
afraid
it's
going
to
change
with
this
new
development,
so
the
numbers
should
speak
for
itself.
The
reason
why
he's
asking
to
rezone
it's
because
he
was
not
meant
to
be.
AB
My
name
is
john
shellness,
I'm
a
board
member
of
the
southwestern
hills,
neighborhood
association.
I
lived
on
southwest
31st
because
of
my
interest
and
expertise
in
crime
prevention
and
that
the
urging
of
the
former
director
of
the
iowa
fusion
center
and
iowa
department
of
public
safety,
I
joined
the
board
of
the
southwest
hill
western
hills
neighborhood
association
over
10
years
ago.
AB
Research
suggests
that
active
neighborhood
associations
bring
crime
rates
down
improving
the
quality
of
life.
It's
more
than
a
coincidental
that
the
southwestern
hills
is
the
safest
neighborhood
in
the
city
and
also
has
the
largest
and
most
active
neighborhood
association.
For
years.
Southwestern
hills
residents
have
voiced
interest
in
middle
housing
in
our
neighborhood,
so
they
can
stay
in
the
area
when
they
are
older.
The
city
of
des
moines
is
addressing
this
by
setting
a
policy
to
create
more
middle
housing.
AC
Abby
banks,
she
her
ward,
three
five,
zero.
Three
one,
two
just
moved.
I
am
a
sociology
major
at
drake.
A
lot
of
you
guys
know
that
I'm
taking
a
class
called
the
sociology
of
the
black
experience
and
last
week
we
just
learned
about
housing
and
housing
discrimination
and
something
that
really
stuck
out
to
me
was
that
the
literal
textbook
root
of
neighborhood
associations
was
to
keep
black
residents
out,
like
from
a
college
class
like
if
you
have
an
issue
with
that.
AC
You
take
that
up
with
the
like
person
who
wrote
that
academic
paper,
but
like
that's
the
real
route.
So
I
just
urge
you
as
someone
who
is
opposed
to
this
project
and
doesn't
know
a
single
person
that
can
afford
a
500,
000
town
home
to
just
think
critically
about
who
you're
hearing
from
you're
either
hearing
from
the
people
whose
roots
are
keeping
black
people
out
of
communities
historically
or
you're.
Hearing
from
the
people
that
are
affected.
AD
AD
Three
I
wanted
to
talk
on
this
because
I
heard
something
that's
come
up
multiple
times,
which
is
this
idea
that
we
need
to
somehow
change
things
in
our
city
against
the
wishes
of
people
that
do
live
here
and
want
to
stay
here
in
order
to
accommodate
people
that
already
want
to
move
to
the
suburbs
and,
while,
like,
I
would
love
more
people
to
be
staying
here
moving
here.
I
just
think
it's
really
odd
that
we
have
people
that
we
know
are
speaking
and
they
want
to
stay
here.
AD
AE
X
AE
Tonight
that
we've
got
the
board
members
here
and
the
real
estate
agent,
that
is
for
it,
the
rest
of
us
are
against
it.
When
the
n14
rezoning
this
when
you've
got
just
west
of
mcgray
park,
he
says
they're
sold
and
I
know
benskins
has
not
sold
out
and
I
know
frank
skyone
is
not
sold
out.
Those
are
already
zoned
that
area
and
if
you
want
to
put
them
there,
that's
what
we
suggest
then
you've
got
the
view
of
the
downtown
area
of
what
you're
trying
to
do.
So.
I've
got
to
say.
H
Can
we
get
your
name,
please
ma'am
ma'am.
L
P
Thank
you,
mr
mayor,
and
thank
you
to
everyone
who
has
been
a
part
of
the
conversation
about
this
project.
P
Some
of
the
most
challenging
issues
that
we
deal
with
as
a
council
are
zoning
issues.
You
know
projects
like
this.
They
directly
impact
neighbors
and
they
shape
the
future
of
what
our
community
might
be,
and
we
all
take
that
responsibility
very
seriously
and
I
think
the
process
that
this
project
has
gone
through.
It's
actually
been
one
of
the
more
intensive
processes
that
that
I've
seen
a
project
go
through.
P
There
have
been
three
pretty
rigorous
neighborhood
meetings,
and
it
shows
I
think
at
least
a
little
bit
of
the
evolution
of
this
project.
The
first
neighborhood
meeting
was
looking
at
a
similar
project
on
the
corner
of
park
and
fleur,
and
that
was
probably
the.
I
know
there
are
a
lot
of
folks
here
tonight,
but
that
was
probably
the
best
attended
of
the
the
neighborhood
meetings.
P
P
What
happened
after
that
meeting
is,
I
think
at
least
some
of
the
concerns
were
heard
and
addressed,
and
the
project
changed
the
location
changed.
There
were
some
modifications
made.
That
was
not
enough,
obviously,
to
satisfy
all
of
the
neighbors
we.
We
have
still
heard
from
a
lot
of
folks
who
who
have
concern
and
opposition,
but
it
did.
P
Those
changes
did
lead
to
others,
including
the
neighborhood
association,
but
it's
broader
than
just
the
folks
in
the
neighborhood
association
who
who
I've
heard
from
I've
heard
from
folks
who
live
nearby
and
who
also
have
a
potential
interest
in
this
project
or
who
have
interest
in
projects
like
this.
P
Quite
honestly,
that
would
be
a
bit
more
affordable,
but
it's
the
form
that
folks
want
to
see
more
projects
like
this
that
we're
starting
to
hear
from
and
then
even
after.
P
After
that,
there
was
a
third
neighborhood
meeting
where
the
developer
presented
additional
changes,
particularly
to
several
of
the
homes
that
are
essentially
in
the
the
secondary
layer
of
these
homes,
to
make
those
a
lower
height
limit,
and
that
was
presented
that
that
meeting
was
presented
to
to
neighbors
who
were,
I
think
it
was
the
250-foot
limit,
we're
invited
to
that
meeting.
P
I
was
at
all
three
of
those
meetings,
and
I
know
there
are
that
there
are
a
mix
of
folks
the
people
who
who
I've
seen,
who
feel
strongest
a
number
of
them
are
here
tonight
and
I
under
I
understand
that
I
understand
the
concerns
that
folks
have,
but
part
of
my
job
is
to
put
this
in
the
larger
context,
and
I
want
to
talk
about
a
couple
of
those
of
those
pieces,
one
of
which
I
firmly
believe
that
our
community
has
a
need
for
more
housing,
and
I
think
that
extends
we
need
more
housing
of
all
types
that
includes
more
density,
more
apartments,
more
affordable
housing.
P
So
in
that
regard,
I
think
this
project
provides
value
because
we
need
more
housing.
We
need
more
options
and
I
think
this
housing
fills
that
role.
I
also
want
to
talk
about
this
corridor
in
in
specific.
You
know,
this
is
on
the
floor.
Drive
corridor.
It's
one
of
the
busiest
corridors
in
all
of
our
city.
There
are
over
34
000
vehicles
that
go
through
this
corridor,
where
this
project
would
be
on
any
given
day,
and
not
only
that,
but
within
within
essentially
a
block
and
a
half
of
this
project.
P
P
This
area
already
has
density.
This
area
is
appropriate
for
density
and,
quite
honestly,
if
we
don't
build
density
on
corridors
like
this,
while
folks
have
pointed
out
that
we
have
areas
in
the
south
of
gray's
lake
master
plan
areas
downtown
where
we
build
density.
P
P
I
think
we
need
density
on
our
corridors,
not
just
in
downtown
and,
I
think,
continuing
to
work
and
allow
density
in
areas
like
this
part
of
fluid
drive
that
add
a
range
and
add
to
what
we
currently
have
is
an
appropriate
way
to
to
modify
our
zoning
and
it
fits
with
our
long-term
vision
and
what
we
are
trying
to
do
as
a
city.
K
P
I
also
wanted
to
address
one
of
one
of
the
specific
concerns
that
I've
heard
that
I
don't
think
has
been
fully
addressed
yet,
but
that
I
think
we
can
handle
in
our
action
tonight
as
a
council,
and
that
is
the
safety
on
willowmere.
P
I
think
that
is
very
much
a
real
issue.
You
know,
one
of
the
things
that
we
have
been
working
on
as
a
council
is
to
fill
in
priority
one
sidewalk
gaps
to
make
it
so
that
there
are
safe,
walking
routes
to
schools
and
to
transit
stops.
P
This
stretch
of
willemir
is
a
perfect
example
of
a
priority
one
sidewalk
gap.
You
have
a
transit
route
on
fluer
drive
and
I
will
say
I
would
love
that
transit
route
to
to
be
a
more
frequent
transit
route,
and
then
you
also
have
brody
middle
school.
On
the
other
side
of
this,
I
know
that
this
is
on
our
list,
as
we
are
working
through
priority
one
sidewalks.
P
P
I
would
like
us
to
address
that
by
by
as
part
of
this
action
requesting
to
move
this
sidewalk
gap
up
as
much
as
we
can.
I
think
staff
have
said
that
this
could
potentially
start
construction
as
early
as
2024,
and
I
think
that
would
go
a
long
way
to
helping
address
the
safety
on
willemere
and
I
think
that's
an
important
step
that
we
can
take
as
we
as
we
look
at
this
project.
P
So
with
that,
I
would
move
alternative
b
to
approve
this,
and
I
would
add
to
that
motion
to
direct
or
request
and
direct
from
staff
to
accelerate
the
priority
one
sidewalk
gap
on
this
particular
project,
so
that
it
is
completed
as
soon
as
possible.
O
If
we
could
have
a
second,
if
we
could
have
just
a
little
bit
more
discussion
on
this,
this
I'm
kind
of
stuck
here,
because
I
care
very
much
about
what
the
neighborhood
wants
to
happen
in
their
area.
What
what
what
is
needed
things
like
that
and
then
I'm
also
looking
at
the
other
side
of
this,
where
we're
putting
in
like
hugely
expensive
con
or
town
homes,
and
what
I'm
looking
at
is
what's
what's
really
confusing
to
me
is
that
this
is
a
a
major
major
street.
O
It's
a
huge
corridor
and
there's
neighborhood
on
either
side
of
it.
But
it
is
a
huge
corridor
that
a
huge
portion
of
our
city
and
visitors
are
going
down
every
single
day
and
so
density
seems
fitting
for
this
area.
But
the
debate
here
is
between
like
maintaining
a
very
nice,
very
nice
neighborhood
and
putting
in
extremely
expensive
condos,
and
I
pers
or
townhomes.
Excuse
me,
and
I
personally,
when
we're
talking
about
building
density,
I
personally
would
rather
be
building
density
that
isn't
in
that
extremely
high
price
point.
O
I
understand
the
point
that
that
housing
is
needed
across
the
board,
but
we're
not
going
to
be
like
at
a
loss
of
finding
people
who
want
to
build
in
the
500
000
range,
like
all
developers,
are
going
to
want
to
be
building
in
the
500
000
range,
because
you
get
a
bigger
return
on
investment
in
that
way.
What
I
guess
is
is
is
my
question
to
the
neighbors,
though,
is,
if
we're
not
building
this
on
floor,
where,
where
do
we
build
it?
Why
why
not
in
your
neighborhood?
O
A
O
Essentially,
the
the
gist
of
what
was
what
was
being
said
was
that
this
is
going
to
overshadow
the
neighborhood,
and
I
guess
I
don't
completely
see
how
that
is
in
that,
like
once,
you
go
back
past
the
corridor
you're
in
your
neighborhood,
if
we're,
if
we
are
improving
the
safety
issues,
if
we
are
addressing
some
of
these
other
issues
that
are
going
to
come
up,
I
I
just
like
we
don't
live
in
a
suburb.
O
We
can't
completely
like
say
like
we're
going
to
have
these
single-family
neighborhoods
everywhere
we're
taking
up
a
lot
that
could
have
been
one
house,
two
houses
and
turning
it
into
what
16,
14,
sorry
14.,
and
if
we're
at
such
a
loss
for
housing,
I
feel
like
what
we're
hearing
over
and
over
and
over
again
is
well
not
in
my
neighborhood,
but
somebody
else
can
deal
with
it
and
that
concerns
me
and
when
we're
talking
about
like
the
racial
dynamics,
I
I
agree:
neighborhood
associations
were
brought
into
existence
to
essentially
uphold
the
redlining
of
neighborhoods.
O
That
is
not
really
a
disputable
fact,
but
I
do
think
that
we
are
dealing
with
two
sides
of
the
same
issue.
Here,
like
we
are
dealing
with,
you
know
wanting
to
keep
keep
our
our
neighborhood
in
this
really
like
honestly,
like
middle
high
income
area
and
then
saying
like,
but
we
don't
want
density
and-
and
this
concern
being
brought
up
that,
like,
oh,
don't
worry,
low
income
people
aren't
coming
here.
Why
not?
Why
not
in
your
neighborhood,
why
shouldn't
we
be
building
low-income,
low-income
housing
in
our
neighborhoods?
O
Why
shouldn't
we
be
going
back
from
like
this
neighborhood
that
was
built
in
the
1950s,
going
back
from
the
trend
of
how
neighborhoods
were
built
in
the
1950s
and
adding
diversity
into
our
neighborhoods
and
not
restricting
people
to
come
and
live
in
our
neighborhoods?
So
my
concern
really
here
is
with
the
price
point
and
I
would
open
it
up
to
are
we
we
said
we
can
ask
him
back
for
questions.
I
don't
know
if
we're
allowed
to
do
that
as.
O
R
R
All
your
feedback
here
so
right
down
the
street.
Are
you
familiar
with
the
pinnacle
on
fleur.
R
So
it's
just
to
the
north
of
the
apartments.
Okay
kimberly
has
a
proposed
development,
that's
on
the
mls
right
now
for
1.4
million
and
they
are
chat,
row,
homes,
town
homes.
So
this,
although
it
is
expensive,
I
I
would
rather
be-
I
can't
get
them
under
400.
I
just
can't
with
the
cost
of
construction,
with
the
lot
acquisition.
R
I
don't
want
to
be
that
I
really
don't
it's
not
about
profit
margins.
It
really
isn't.
I
want
them
to
be
it's
not
it
isn't
sorry.
This
is
not
about
this
is
about.
This
is
about
the
cost
of
construction
and
the
quality
of
construction.
I
mean
these
are
brick.
These
are.
These
are
stucco.
These
are
all
energy
electrical
vehicle
charging
stations,
spray,
foam
ceiling,
r20
sidewalls.
I
mean
these
are
well-built
construction
on
our
main
corridor
and
it
needs
to
be
well-built
construction.
R
O
R
So
the
smart
home
is
kind
of
nominal.
The
total
cost
per
unit
on
a
smart
home
is
about
fifteen
hundred
dollars.
So
what
that
means
is
just
upgrading
your
smoke
detectors
to
smart
smoke,
detectors
and
thermostats
and
garage
door,
openers
and
doorbells
and
house
locks,
so
all
of
those
accessories
equal
about
1500
per
unit.
So
it's
that's
just
a
little
nominal.
As
far
as
having
that
smart
home,
you
said
1500
per
unit
per
unit,
so
yeah.
O
So
I
guess
I
hear
what
you're
saying
and
the
cost
of
building
is
going
up
and
I
do
want
quality
buildings
in
our
city.
At
the
same
time,
I
know
that
people
are
able
to
build
quality
buildings
at
a
lower
price,
so
my
concern
still
exists
here
right.
I
think
that
balancing,
essentially
the
the
needs
of
our
city
to
build
housing
and
balancing
the
desires
of
the
neighbors
to
have
control
over
what's
happening
since
alternative
b
would
include
coming
back
with
conditions
acceptable
to
the
city
and
the
owners.
O
I
think
that
the
city
being
the
representative
of
the
people,
should
discuss
those
conditions
with
the
neighborhood.
I
would
request
another
neighborhood
meeting
to
discuss
the
conditions
of
this
rezoning
of
the
development
to
find
something
that
would
work
for
everyone.
Would
you
be
willing
to
add
that
to
your
motion.
P
U
P
P
Traditionally,
we
would
have
to
set
any
conditions
if
there
were
additional
design
changes
that
that
we
feel
are
necessary,
which
we
would
have
to
set
those
today.
I
I
believe
that
is
the
direction.
AF
O
Most
helpful
but
necessary,
because
if
we
are,
if
the
conversation
in
three
neighborhood
meetings
was
yes
or
no,
the
conversation
now
is.
How
can
we
make
this?
You
know
part
of
our
neighborhood
that
we're
not
going
to
hate
right
and
I
did
see
there
was
some
feedback
of
the
design
style,
and
so
I
wonder
if
there's
further
conversation
to
be
had
there.
If
we
are
drawing
this
line
and
saying
yes,
we're
going
to
rezone.
J
O
Not
in
this
specific
conversation,
I'm
asking
that
if
we
are
drawing
the
line
and
rezoning
that
the
conditions
acceptable
by
the
city
would
also
be
the
conditions
acceptable
by
the
neighborhood
to
build
this
development.
I
am
also
just
making
a
point
that
I
do
not
agree
with
the
high
price
point
for
this
development,
but
I
don't
know
that
that
is
avoidable.
J
J
But
we
have
so
much
more
input,
so
I
I'm
not
sure
where
this
discussion
is
going.
I
if
there's
a
if
we
need
a
second
motion.
I
will
second
john
all
right.
A
I
appreciate
your
changing
and
listening
to
some
of
the
neighbors
concerns
and
and
looking
at
the
design
and
that,
but,
as
I
listened
to
your
presentation,
the
other
night
and
other
discussions
that
that
I
have
had
around
this
adam,
the
sidewalk
that
is
going
to
be
constructed
on
fleur
drive
on
the
west
side
of
floor
drive.
R
So
I
met
with
brett
this
morning
actually
and
the
contractor
on
site
on
fleur,
and
they
met
with
mr
lammer
as
well
to
they're
working
very
well
with
me.
I
said:
let's
not
do
anything
until
we
get
the
rezoning
but
they're
working
with
me
and
listening
and
wanting
to
accommodate
this
development.
It's
proposed
to
be
at
the
minimum
setback
and
I'll
and
I'll.
Tell
you
why
the
oak
tree.
R
The
minimum
setback
yes
for
this
type
of
zoning,
for
an
x1
to
be
12
feet,
so
it
would
be
essentially
a
fence,
a
5
foot,
private
sidewalk
and
then
the
steps
up
to
their
front
door
to
like
a
stoop,
so
it'd
be
it'd,
be
toward
on
floor,
which
is
consistent
with
this
type
of
zoning.
I
wouldn't
need
a
type
2
variance
on
this.
A
So
my
concern
is,
is
we
think
about
it
and
I
look
at
some
of
the
other,
as
you
explain,
high
density
properties
around
and
we'll
even
use
the
park
floor.
A
It
was
built
about
same
time
as
many
of
these
homes
that
are
in
there
and
it
is
set
back
significantly
further
than
12
feet
from
the
sidewalk
and
I'm
a
little
concerned
about
not
only
the
safety
of
people
using
the
sidewalk
and
in
with
a
wall
right
there
and
then
we're.
You
know
to
one
of
the
points
the
other
night.
Where
does
the
snow
go?
What
happens?
What
do
you
do
with
it,
because
the
snow
is
going
to
get
piled
up
on
the
public
sidewalk
out
there
and
with
only
12
feet
there?
A
I
I
just
it's
hard
for
me
to
get
my
arms
around
how
this
feels
in
the
neighborhood
and
I've
listened
to
the
neighbors
and,
as
we
discussed,
I've
spent
quite
a
deal
in
my
life
in
in
that
area,
and
I
you
know
including
living
there.
I
just
this
is
is
a
totally
different
concept
than
anything
else.
That's
there
so
tell
me
how
we're
going
to
mitigate
that
closeness?
Almost
a
wall
up
on
floor
drive.
R
Yeah
appreciate
your
concern,
so
the
wall
will
be
at
the
maximum
allowable
height
of
four
feet.
Brent
miller
is
gonna,
increase
the
wall
height
to
the
to
the
four
maximum
height
to
four
feet.
Then
there'll
be
a
black
fence
to
match
the
area
on
top
of
that
wall,
which
will
be
privately
owned
and
then
you'll
have
a
green
space
or
a
planter
with
with
a
hedge
and
then
a
private
sidewalk.
R
I
can
reduce
that
to
14
and
I
could
possibly
reduce
the
lane
that
goes
in
between
that
goes
behind
those
reduce
that
by
a
foot
or
two.
So
there's
there's
there's
room
to
gain
a
little
more
to
get
it
off.
But
it's
that
oak
tree
that
that
we're
trying
to
preserve
on
site,
that
is
that
is
forcing
that
to
building
forward,
because
the
dr,
the
main
lane
is,
I
believe,
20
feet
and
the
driveways
are
16
feet
and
the
building
is
36
feet.
R
J
R
J
Okay,
so
you're
going
to
have
a
public
sidewalk.
So
then
we
what
we
need
to
do
and
and
I'm
completely
in
favor
and
getting
engineering
to
move
it
up.
This
is
a
priority
one.
There
needs
to
be
sidewalks
around
brody,
and
so
we
we
need
to
do
our
part
and
to
make
that
area
safer
after
you
put
your
sidewalk
in
and
we
finished
doing,
ours
on
floor
drive,
and
so
I
I
think,
josh
you
made
that
part
of
your
motion.
Didn't
you.
R
R
C
F
J
R
It
real
quick-
I
was
up
here
to
speak
to
ms
schumacher,
the
the
secondary
buildings
that
I've
redesigned
to
a
two-story
like
the
ones
I
propose
in
your
ward.
I
haven't
set
those
price
points,
but
those
will
be
less
than
the
primary
building
on
fleur,
because
it's
a
two-story
unit,
so
they
will
be
less
than
the
the
main
building.
R
And-
and
I
didn't
get
a
chance
to
speak
on
the
design
of
the
front
building,
we've
got
aib,
which
is
a
very
similar
design.
We
have
the
pinnacle
on
floor,
which
is
planned,
which
is
the
same
architect
that
I'm
using
on
the
corner
of
willowmere.
So
it's
my
vision
that
this
corridor
has
a
very
similar
architecture.
As
you
drive
down
between
william
willimer
and
bell.
P
Mr
mayor,
I
mean,
would
you
want,
would
you
want
us
to
add
a
condition
that
we
asked
staff
to
work
with
the
developer
on
additional
setback?
I.
A
I
yeah
that's
a
great
concern
of
mine
and
I
you
and
I
have
talked
about
it
and
I'm
mentioning
again
here
tonight.
I
just
yeah.
K
A
Seems
like
we're
building
a
I
mean
40-story
wall,
part
of
it
set
back
with
what
four
feet
or
whatever
it
is
that
that
wall
on
the
sidewalk
is
and
then
a
three-story
building
behind
that.
P
A
R
A
I
mean
we're
a
tree
city,
usa,
so
I'm
fully
in
support
of
saving
all
the
trees,
but
in
the
meantime
you
know
you
get
over
100
year
old
oak
and
we're
gonna
mess
around
with
the
root
system
and
how
it
gets
everything
else.
A
Well,
we
occasionally
have
debates
around,
especially
in
a
single
family
neighborhood
of
putting
duplexes
on
1.8
acres,
and
you
know
here
we're
putting
14
units
on
eight
tenths
of
an
acre.
O
R
The
townhome
project
on
southwest
7th
and
thomas
beck-
that's
yours-
to
elevate
town
home
project,
is
18
units
on
38
000
square
feet.
This
is,
would
be
proposed
as
15
units
on
42
000
square
feet.
So
the
density
works
in
this
in
this
scenario
and
where
the
bar
is
the
508
bar,
that's
26
000
square
feet
of
land
when
the
bar
is
demoed,
there'll,
be
11
units
on
26
000
square
feet,
so
the
density
works
in
this
type
of
cause
row
home
construction.
R
A
O
Can
I
make
one
more
proposal?
Sorry
I
I
do
have
concerns
about
the
flooding
issue
that
was
brought
up.
I've
seen
you
know
even
small
new
developments
that
have
caused
more
flooding
than
previously,
so
just
if
we
could
have
engineering
and
public
works.
Looking
at
that
issue,
as
this
goes
through
as
well,
this.
P
Absolutely
we
can
make
sure
to
have
engineering
and
public
works.
Look
at
this
from
a
stormwater
perspective
to
make
sure
we're
incorporating
best
practices
into
this
project,
and
that
can
be
part
of
the
condition
with
with.
I
A
A
K
A
A
We'll
ask
first
for
parties
and
interest
to
step
up
there.
Any
parties
in
interest.
K
A
Item
64
items
regarding
the
airport,
kohl's
drive
reconstruction
phase
ii
project,
a
on
the
fifth
amendment
to
the
real
estate
lease
an
asset
transfer
agreement
to
exclude
excess
property
adjoining
fluid
drive
between
high
view,
drive
and
mckinley
avenue,
and
to
include
property
located
west
of
and
adjoining
southwest
46th
street
north
of
mckinley
avenue
b
is
a
resolution,
dedicating
additional,
flew
or
drive
right
away
as
part
of
the
airport.
Kohl's
drive
reconstruction
phase,
2
project.
Z
1-5
yeah,
so
the
master
plan
is
interesting.
It's
only
104
page
pdf,
but
I'm
sure
all
you
guys
read
all
of
it
with
everything
else
going
on.
My
biggest
concern
here
is
that
this
district
is
is
more
like
more
likely
they're
not
going
to
get
used
for
tax
abatements
tiff
money
for
developers.
As
we
see,
you
are
very
apt
to
vote
in
favor
of
those
things
already
given
the
history
in
general,
as
well
as
your
actions
tonight,
but
this
is
a
great
area
for
development.
Z
There's
lots
of
green
space
that
we
can
make
quality,
affordable,
housing,
walkable
areas
here,
there's
no
reason
we
need
to
be
pushing
people
out
of
this
community
like
we've
been
talking
about.
So
I
would
really
encourage
that.
There's
nothing
in
here
that
says:
we're
actually
going
to
make
this
area
affordable
or
make
sure
we
can
attract
people
that
actually
want
to
come
and
live
here
to
this.
So
I
don't
think
you're
going
to
change
anything,
but
I
would
encourage
you
to
actually
make
sure
we
use
tax
dollars
to
benefit.
P
Yeah,
mr
mayor,
I'm
happy
to
to
move
this
item.
This
is
another
example.
There
was
public
process
and
public
comment
and
I
think
we
got
a
a
lot
of
very
good
public
comment
and
I
think
that's
reflected
in
a
master
plan
that
has
again
a
mix
of
densities
and
mixed
use
and
will
take
an
area
of
our
town
if
we
can
realize
it
and
it's
an
underutilized
area
and
it's
an
area
that
has
potential
to
connect
well
and
be
a
gateway
from
downtown
to
the
south
side.
P
And-
and
I
think
the
the
point
that
mr
webber
made
about.
Affordability
is
an
important
one,
but
the
way
that
the
way
that
we're
going
to
get
affordability
or
a
piece
of
it.
We
have
been
working
on
when
we
have
multi-family
projects
that
we
provide
incentives,
mainly
tiff.
P
We
have
been
requiring
affordability
and
and
we
should
be
requiring
more
affordability
and
getting
it
down
to
a
better
affordability
point.
That
means
10
of
units
getting
down
into
the
50
percent
of
ami
and
then
another
ten
percent
that
may
go
up
to
eighty
percent
ami
and
there
is
an
opportunity
there,
because
I
think
affordability
works
better
when
you
integrate
it
in
everywhere,
rather
than
isolate
it
and
when
we
build
when
we
build
a
new
neighborhood
like
this
master
plan,
south
of
gray's
lake
master
plan
presents
an
opportunity
to
do.
P
I
firmly
believe
we
need
more
housing
period
and
the
south
of
grades,
like
master
plan,
represents
another
opportunity
to
add
that
housing
we're
not
going
to
be
there
even
with.
If
we
fully
build
out
the
south
of
gray's
lake
area,
we
still
need
even
greater
density
in
parts
of
our
downtown.
We've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
be
able
to
provide
the
housing
that
we
know
our
community
needs,
and
this
is
a
part
of
it.
So
I'm
happy
to
move
item
65.
AG
Hello,
denver
she
her
ward,
three.
I
live
right
on
42nd
in
ingersoll,
so
I
do
go
down
to
waveland
tap
and
the
business
is
down
there
pretty
regularly.
I
also
drive
along
that
corridor
every
day
going
back
into
from
work.
I
think
this
is
a
really
cool
idea.
I'm
really
down
for
it
something
that
kind
of
considered
like
makes
me
kind
of
hesitant.
Is
it
supposed
to
be
interactive
site?
I
don't
really
know
what
that
means.
AG
AG
So
I
just
worry,
because
that
is
like
a
big.
A
lot
of
people
do
speed
through
there,
so
I'm
worried
about
children's
safety
and
also,
if
it's
going
through
the
public
golf
course
so
they're
getting
it
from
the
golf
course
or
they're
getting
it
from
the
city
or
is
it
like
the
city's
land?
Or
is
it
just
a
vacant
lot
or
is
it
part
of
the
golf
course?
Yes,
those
are
my
two
things.
P
A
AH
AH
Waveland
trolley
loop
foundation
board
so
which
we're
working
on
we
initiated
I'm
going
to
have
steve
stimmel
who's
with
the
des
moines
historical
society.
Do
I'll
fill
you
in
on
some
details,
but
we've
been
working
on
this
for
about
five
years.
AH
We've
collected
quite
a
bit
of
money.
We
we
saw.
The
purpose
of
this
was
to
three
purposes
to
fulfill.
One
was
the
most
important
is
to
educate
people
about
the
trolley
system
in
des
moines
at
a
designated
landmark.
That
was
that
was
honored
by
you.
Folks,
as
being
part
of
the
trolley
system.
Second,
is
to
improve
the
appearance
of
university
avenue
and
the
neighborhoods
around
it
by
cleaning
up
a
long,
neglected
site,
that's
city
property,
the
the
third
which
will
remain
city
property
and
we'll.
AI
To
respond
to
the
question,
it
is
an
interactive
educational
site,
so
there
will
be
information
to
read
and
there
because
sculpture,
it'll
be
a
metallic
sculpture
and
you
can
actually
roll
up
behind
it
on
a
ramp
accessible
to
everybody.
So
people
in
chairs
children
and
they
could
wave
through
the
windows
of
this
cut
out
type
monument,
the
side
view
of
a
streetcar,
and
so
it's
very
interactive
and
it
complements
the
city
trail
that
is
going
to
be
built
along
the
south
side
of
university.
The
land
is
existing
non-used
park
land,
so
it
was
vacated.
AI
AI
It
was
declared
a
local
landmark
in
2017
because
on
that
site
are
the
rails
underneath
where
the
streetcars
actually
turned
around,
and
there
was
a
a
paved
path
that
went
over
the
top
of
the
rails,
where
the
trolley
buses
also
made
their
loop.
That's
why
it's
called
a
loop,
because
it
was
at
the
end
of
the
line
where
the
streetcar's
reverse
direction
went
back
downtown.
So
we
hope
it'll
be
very
interactive
and
I
want
to.
A
Z
No,
I
think
this
is
a
great
project.
I,
like
the
accessibility
aspect
that
we're
taking
into
it.
I
think
the
safety
concern
is
very
real,
too.
That's
a
really
busy
traffic
corridor.
I
would
like
to
have
a
moment
of
silence
for
the
fact
that
this
type
of
transit
doesn't
exist
in
des
moines
anymore.
Z
This
is
a
very
as
one
of
my
audience
mates
pointed
out
a
good
in
memoriam
to
things
that
would
be
nice
to
have
around
affordable,
accessible
transportation
for
all,
especially
in
this
area.
I'd
also
like
to
point
out
we're
working
with
a
20-year
lease
for
this.
That
sounds
great.
Z
It's
nice
and
affordable,
but
community
fridges
that
have
been
in
this
area
have
been
attacked
and
penalized
for
750
a
month
in
fees
because
they
didn't
meet
zoning
requirements
and
they
were
filling
a
community
need,
as
opposed
to
a
landmark,
that's
nice,
but
it's
not
feeding
people
so
a
cool
project.
I
like
it
but
just
be
cool
to
put
more
energy
towards
things
that
are
feeding
people
as
well.
H
Mayor
connie,
if
there's
no
other
comments,
I'd
like
to
move
this,
I
was
also
part
of
the
committee
for
three
years,
and
this
is,
I
think,
we're
ready
to
roll
once
we
get
these
approvals
to
to
start
building
it
out.
So
with
all
expectations.
This
will
be
completed
by
the
end
of
this
year.
So
with
that,
I
would
move
we.
P
H
P
I
would
gladly
second
that-
and
I
I
just
want
to
thank
the
committee
of
folks-
I
mean
it's
been
a
volunteer
effort,
a
labor
of
love-
to
to
commemorate
commemorate
this,
and
I
think
it
it'll
be
really
great
to
to
have
this
done.
Carl
council,
member
voss,
I
appreciate
your
work
on
this
as
well,
and
it
is
a
nice
memorial
to
transit.
We
still
have
work
to
do
from
a
transit
accessibility
perspective
and
we'll
keep
we'll
keep
working
along
those
lines.
O
I
would
just
like
to
say
because
a
lot
of
the
decisions
about
this
monument
were
made
before
I
was
on
the
council,
and
so
I
was
kind
of
watching
these
decisions
be
made,
and
I
just
have
to
say
like
it's:
it's
going
to
be
a
beautiful
project.
It's
it's
going
to
be
it's
going
to
be
really
exciting,
but
it
does
make
me
really
sad
because
I
I
grew
up
on
an
old
trolley
line
and
to
be
that
we're
putting
up
memorials
for
them.
Instead
of
you,
know,
reinstating
public
transit.
O
It's
like
look
back
at
the
time
when
we
had
public
transit
before
we
built
out
the
highways
in
the
50s
and
everything
became
car
centric,
it's
I
so
I'm
going
to
be
supporting
it
because
I
hope
it
brings
attention
to
that.
Disparity
in
the
fact
that
we
had
a
different
life
not
so
long
ago,
and
hopefully
more
people
can
learn
about
that
and
start
advocating
for
more
public
transit.
AD
Hello,
my
name
is
adam
callanan.
He
in
pronouns
50309
ward,
3.
yeah.
So
I
looked
over
some
of
this
report.
There
was
a
lot
of
good
things,
but
I
only
have
a
minute
to
talk,
so
I'm
going
to
talk
about
the
areas
where
the
city
under
delivered,
in
the
hopes
that
we
can
get
those
things
addressed
for
next
year
in
the
future.
AD
Some
of
those
things
were
we
under-delivered
on
new
rental
housing
units
constructed
homeowner
housing
units,
rehabilitated
households,
assisted
with
rabid
housing
and
persons
assisted
by
the
emergency
food
distribution
program.
So
in
2021
things
that
city
didn't
do
as
well
as
it
wanted
to,
and
it
had
set
goals
for
and
hopefully
next
year
we
can
end
up
on
the
other
side
of
that.
Z
Yeah,
I
think
those
are
great
points
to
point
out.
I
think
specifically
diving
into
our
goal
for
2021
to
assist
persons
with
the
emergency
food
distribution
program.
Our
goal
was
7
800
people
to
help.
Do
you
guys
know
how
many
we
helped.
C
Z
We
didn't
even
attempt
to
meet
our
goal
in
using
this
money
as
we'd
stated,
so
I
would
really
encourage
us
to
do
like
a
lot
better,
like
infinite
percent,
better,
because
you're
multiplying
by
zero,
so
math
doesn't
work
great.
There.
K
Z
C
I'll
move
item
67.-
and
I
did
ask
too
on
this
item
that
we
get
chris
johansen
was
going
to
put
together
what
they're
working
out
on
the
food
with
dmarc
and
some
other
agencies
and
to
get
a
really
handle
of
how
much
of
the
cova
dollars
were
outlaid,
because
I
know
for
rental
assistance
and
a
lot
of
those
things.
There's
millions
of
dollars
that
went
out.
So
we
have
a
better
picture
of
what
we
actually
who
we
did
help
and
how
many.
L
A
N
See
what
happens?
Thank
you,
as
you
all
know,
from
our
written
and
oral
reports.
Last
month,
the
stormwater
infrastructure
advisory
committee,
which
I
chair,
anticipates
that
there
are
going
to
be
many
major
construction
issues
needed
with
stormwater
for
the
next
several
years.
We
understand
that
several
projects
underway
are
already
bonded
for
or
funded,
and
we
are,
but
considering
that
there
is
no
sip
increase
for
the
coming
year.
B
A
F
Sure
I
I
appreciate,
and
actually
given
the
long
meeting
time
that
we've
had
this
far
an
interested
time,
I'm
actually
going
to
shorten
my
comments
here
on
the
budget.
I
really
appreciate
all
the
work
that's
been
put
into
this
year's
budget.
That
includes
the
staff
time.
As
you
might
imagine,
an
incredible
amount
of
time
was
spent
with
the
department,
directors,
the
finance
staff,
legal
and
actually
our
communications
as
well.
F
Effort
was
put
into
additional
public
meeting
and
public
input.
That
includes
several
workshops,
both
in
a
in-person
format
as
well
as
online.
There
were
listening
posts
added
as
well.
That
gave
us
an
opportunity
to
speak
with
the
public
directly
at
libraries
and
community
centers,
and
then,
of
course,
we
had
our
website
with
surveying,
and
the
question
asked
about
how
best
to
provide
services
to
our
residents
again
at
a
high
level,
there
is
no
change
in
the
property
tax
rate.
F
The
commitment
remains
strong
for
public
safety,
which
includes
additional
fire
fighters
and
9-1-1
dispatch
personnel
as
well
generally
des
moines
is
a
growing
city
and
as
such
we
also
have
administrative
needs
that
need
to
get
done.
So
this
budget
assures
that
there
are
appropriate
staffing
in
the
administrative
areas
as
well,
which
you
might
imagine
includes:
I.t
finance,
hr
and
others.
F
A
Counseling,
quick,
I
think,
yep,
let's
any
other
folks
want
to
make
some
comments.
Z
Check
it.
Oh
joe,
you
wait,
taylor,
weber,
ward,
three,
so
the
the
listening
sessions,
the
q
and
a's,
those
were
awesome,
but,
what's
weird,
is
participating
in
them
felt
like
shouting
into
a
void,
because
I
never
heard
any
responses
to
any
of
the
questions.
I'd
asked
questions
like
what
was
our
pay
disparity
for
firefighters,
as
opposed
to
police
officers.
Z
What
is
the
amount
of
money?
We
spend
each
council
meeting
keeping
officers
and
swat
team
behind
the
scenes
again,
just
every
question
that
was
asked
where
I
knew
that
was
asked
just
never
heard
anything
from
so
the
feedback
aspect
there
I
don't
think
really
landed
like
you
wanted
to,
or
maybe
it
did,
I
guess
but
yeah.
I
think,
there's
some
real
concerns
in
the
budget
as
a
whole.
Z
Again
we're
still
spending
way
too
much
and
calling
it
public
safety
when,
in
reality,
it's
militarizing
our
police
department
and
continuing
to
enable
that
we
actually
didn't
fix
storm
water
problems
in
the
area,
like
that's
proved
by
all
the
recent
storms
recently.
So
a
lot
of
the
things
we've
been
spending
a
bunch
of
money
on
as
a
city
we're
not
actually
fixing
and
doing
well.
AD
The
budget
has
far
too
much
money
for
dmpd,
especially
against
sending
their
conduct
over
the
past
years,
and
especially
the
past
few
years,
and
while
the
city
held
public
input
sessions,
the
public
input
they
received
is
not
reflected
in
the
city's
budget
and,
as
taylor
said,
a
lot
of
the
questions
were
just
never
answered.
AD
The
city
held
a
budget
q
a
back
in
december,
telling
people
who
showed
up
that
their
feedback
would
be
taken
to
council
and
considered
for
the
budget.
But
that
feedback
was
emitted
from
the
city's
official
feedback
report
and
we
requested
it
with
foia
requests
and
it
was
denied
by
the
city
they
withheld
it.
Until
we
went
to
the
iowa
public
information
board
and
then
after
some
arguments
there,
we
finally
got
it
and
it
was
added.
AD
But
this
was
after
the
initial
budget
already
came
out,
and
then
the
city
interestingly
decided
to
say
that
it
was
actually
harmless,
that
they
omitted
public
feedback.
That
was
taken
back
in
december
until
mid-february,
and
I
think
it's
really
concerning
that.
We're
hearing
about
all
these
public
input
sessions-
and
I
don't
know
about
what
happened
in
every
single
session.
But
the
one
session
that
I
know
about
very
intimately-
I
just
know
that
the
feedback
from
that
was
actually
not
used
in
constructing
this
budget,
and
that
really
concerns
me,
especially
because
the
city
is.
AJ
O
I
would
like
to
just
speak
on
some
of
the
concerns
that
were
brought
up.
I
have
similar
concerns
about
how
public
input
was
used
in
constructing
this
budget.
I
am
going
to
go
ahead
and
vote
yes
on
the
capital
improvement
program.
So
I'm
going
to
guess
on
this
specific
hearing,
but
I
I
agree
there
wasn't.
The
public
input
was
not
was
not
integrated
in
a
way
that
was
satisfactory.
O
There
was
a
request
made
back
in
december
that
we
see
a
report
of
how
public
input
was
reflected
in
the
budget,
and
I
haven't
seen
that
report,
and
so
I
just
wanted
to
validate
those
concerns.
I
do
believe
that
is
something
that
we
did
not
meet.
K
A
A
Z
Z
For
us
as
a
city
to
allow
public
descent
like
we
have
over
the
past
several
years,
that
includes
increasing
funding
that
we
have
on
an
item
tonight
for
infrared
funding
for
dmpd
that
we're
spending
half
a
million
dollars
on
and
again
just
where
our
priorities
as
a
city.
I
think
last
year's
budget
didn't
reflect
it.
Z
Since
it's
been
amended,
it
hasn't
reflected
what
we
claim
our
priorities
to
be
and,
as
the
last
item
was
voted
on,
clearly
don't
really
take
the
public
into
input
into
consideration
anyways,
but
I
think
it's
just
valid
to
keep
pointing
out
that
what
our
budget
actually
prioritizes
is
not
what
many
on
the
council
claim
to
be
priorities
of
them.
C
A
AD
Hello,
my
name
is
adam
callanan.
He
in
pronouns
word
three
50309
so
earlier
I
talked
about
with
the
public
input.
How
a
lot
of
the
public
input
didn't
actually
seem
to
come
back
to
council
in
any
meaningful
way.
I
wanted
to
talk
about
as
well
with
this
budget.
AD
What
was
taken
into
consideration
in
the
meantime,
because
there's
kind
of
a
double
standard
there
we
know
from
other
meetings
that
just
a
phone
call
from
businesses,
like
captain
royce,
get
the
direct
line
to
the
council
for
revisiting
budget
things
like
the
berlin
marina,
and
I
just
think
that's
really
concerning
that
the
city
is
kind
of
putting
on
a
show
having
these
budget
listening
posts,
but
then
what
we
see
actually
is
taken
back
and
considered
for
reworking
the
budget
are
things
like
development
projects
like
the
berlin
marina
again,
it
was
in
a
council
meeting
that
we
were
told
that
just
somebody
called
them
like
a
business
owner
called
them
from
cabin
royce,
and
I
just
think
that
there's
a
great
double
standard
that
we've
also
seen
here
today
in
speaking
times
where
developers
are
allowed
to
answer
questions.
AD
Z
I
got
a
babysitter
for
this,
so
we're
good
yeah.
So
one
number
that
really
stuck
out
to
me
is:
I
looked
at
this
and
it's
across
the
other
ones
as
well,
but
I
didn't.
I
didn't
really
realize
that
our
operating
budget
is
just
over
like
a
billion
dollars,
the
city
our
size,
like
that's
a
lot
of
money
right,
that's
a
ton
of
money.
You
could
afford
that
house
that
that
guy
wants
to
build.
Z
If,
if
you
had
that
much
money,
I
digress,
but
but
in
all
seriousness
again,
this
budget
does
not
reflect
your
stated
josh
and
connie.
Your
stated
campaign
promises
objectives,
things
you
said
in
the
community
and
said
where
your
priorities
were
on
things
like
public
safety,
you
said
you
wanted
an
independent
investigation
into
dmpd,
based
on
their
recent
actions,
allegations
and
issues,
not
only
in
the
community
but
internally
themselves.
Z
O
So
I
would
just
like
to
say
foreign
comment
on
since
we're
talking
about
the
operating
budget.
At
this
point,
I
came
onto
this
council
saying
that
I
wanted
to
defund
the
police,
saying
that
I
wanted
to
find
alternatives
for
public
safety,
saying
that
I
wanted
to
redirect
some
of
that
money
into
preventative
measures
that
create
a
better
living
situation
for
many
many
people
which
would
be
improving
public
safety.
I
didn't
have
any.
O
You
know
notion
that
the
rest
of
the
council
was
going
to
do
a
big
cut
to
dmpd
this
year,
and
so
I
believe
I
made
a
very
reasonable.
You
know
compromise
on
that
point
and
requested
no
increase
in
funding
for
dmpd
in
the
current
budget.
O
I
was
told
that
I
was
asking
for
too
much
just
asking
for
that
small
piece,
and
I
do
not
believe
that
I'm
asking
for
perfection
in
saying
that
I'm
going
to
vote
no
on
any
budget
that
increases
dmpd's
funding.
I
would
vote
yes
on
this
budget
if
it
stayed
flat.
I
think
that
at
this
point,
when
we
are
in
a
different
political
political
space
than
we
were
in
when
we've
heard
roughly
two
years
of
of
you
know,
demands
and
activism
and
and
the
public
speaking
out
saying
that
something
needs
to
be
done.
B
There
it
is
there,
it
is
taylor,
weber,
ward
3,
for
the
record.
Z
Yeah
this
project
really
big,
really
big
number.
Here
too,
like
almost
13
million
again,
I
think
it's
just
good
to
be
aware
of
the
type
of
money
we're
spending
on
projects
again
the
bids.
We
only
got
three
bids
on
this
project
as
well.
We
had
a
history
of
overpaying
for
projects
in
in
recent
history,
so
it's
good
to
see
that
this
isn't
drastically
over
estimate.
It's
good
that
that's
improved
the
one.
The
one
piece
I
would
say
the
the
goal
here
is
again
flood
mitigation
improvements.
Z
Again
I
thought
that's
what
we
did
on
floor.
I
thought
that's
what
we've
done
in
these
areas,
that
we
say
we've
solved,
stormwater
management
and
and
the
like-
and
we
have
not.
All
you
have
to
do-
is
search
social
media
and
you'll,
see
videos
from
all
throughout
the
winter
and
the
storms.
We've
had
that
clearly
show
what
we
thought
was
good
enough
wasn't
in
those
areas.
So
I
would
really
make
sure,
since
the
target
of
this
project
is
flood
mitigation
that
we
maybe
re-evaluate.
A
We've
got
a
number
of
pieces
here
going
towards
the
animal
control,
and
could
you
quickly
explain
why
we're
splitting
it
up
and
what
we
hope
to
accomplish
here.
F
Sure,
mayor
and
council
members,
members
of
the
public,
this
is
a
different
bidding
process
that
we
have
engaged
in
with
the
animal
control
facility
in
that,
instead
of
hiring
a
general
contractor
with
one
bid
for
all
packages,
this
is
a
opportunity
to
use
a
construction
manager
that
is
helping
us
put
together
each
of
the.
What
typically
would
have
been
a
sub
contract
into
a
package
that
each
of
these
services
are
directly
contracted
with
the
city
and
so
you're.
A
All
right,
this
first
piece
is
the
animal
control
package.
As
I
say,
it's
the
degrading
utilities,
the
public
improvements
streets
resolution,
the
engineers
estimate
receive
and
file
the
bids,
and
we
show
the
lowest
bidder
and,
of
course,
a
under
that
is
approved
with
the
contract.
The
bond
of
permission
is
sublet,
we'll
ask
if
there's
anyone
who
would
like
to
speak
on
this
animal
control.
O
O
Yes,
but
that's
what
I'm
wondering
is
if
we're
able
to
make
a
motion
to
vote
on
all
of
them
together
or
not.
AF
Well,
the
problem
is
that
each
one
is
a
separate
hearing
and
so
then
each
hearing
has
to
be
closed.
I
suppose,
theoretically,
you
could
could
do
that,
but
you're
gonna
have
to
go
through
each
item
separately.
The
the
idea.
AF
O
Z
Yeah,
I
think,
pointing
out.
I
appreciate
the
explanation
for
why
this
is
so
so
different
than
than
other
times
seems
like
a
good
thing,
maybe
more
in
control
of
each
bid
price
wise
as
we
go
through
especially
has
been
stated.
The
construction
price
is
rising.
I
will
note
package
as
a
whole.
I
think
we're
like
15
million
or
somewhere
around
there.
Z
If
I
add
it
up
right
and
this
all
rolls
up
to
the
dmpd
as
part
of
the
budget
so
again
increasing
this
funding,
I
wonder
if
the
establishment
of
the
facility
is
the
most
important
thing
for
animal
control
or,
if
maybe
paying
more,
to
animal
control,
employees
and
wages
having
more
of
them,
making
sure
they're
more
prepared
to
handle
situations
that
they
might
encounter
in
the
community
or
more
fully
staffed
them.
Z
So
we
don't
have
to
have
police
officers
respond
to
animal
related
incidents
when
there
aren't
enough
staff
there
so
again
get
ready.
I'm
going
to
come
up
here,
every
time
and
say
jermaine
about
this
rolling
up
the
dmpd,
but
I
really
don't
think
that
all
this
money
is
the
best
use
of
the
money
to
serve
the
city.
A
A
73
is
the
animal
control
facility
bid
package
number
four?
This
is
the
concrete
building
foundations
and
slab
on
grade.
The
resolution
improve
the
plan.
Specifications
form
of
contract
documents,
engineers
estimate
receiving
file
bids
and
designating
the
lowest
responsive
responsible
bidder
is
jensen.
Builders,
limited
dale,
h,
jensen
is
the
president
six
hundred
and
thirty
one
thousand
three
hundred
dollars
council
communication
number
22-145
and
a
under
that
is
approval
of
the
contract
and
bond
and
permission
to
sublet.
Z
Yeah
I
appreciate
the
the
acknowledgement
actually
had
an
issue
where
called
for
animal
control,
because
there
was
a
bat
in
my
house
and
wanted
to
take
it
out
nicely,
but
it
was
like
12
feet
in
the
air
and
I
couldn't
get
it
not
quite
that
tall
and
so
animal
control
couldn't
come.
So
a
cop
showed
up
with
a
tupperware
container
and
she
said
my
bad,
so
I
paid
some
homeboy
next
door
cash
to
get
up
on
a
ladder
and
go
get
it
so
again.
Z
I
would
really
save
it
now
over
half
a
million
for
the
next
piece
of
this
project
and
we're
going
to
continue
to
approve
large
sums
of
money.
Is
that
the
thing
that's
going
to
improve
animal
control
in
the
city
and
will
the
money
being
spent
here
again
close
to
15
million,
prevent
police
coming
into
people's
homes
for
things
like
mats,
rats,
vermin,
other
things
that
should
be
handled
by
you
know
a
trained
professional
in
that
case.
A
We'll
ask
if
anybody
else
has
any
comments
about
the
plan.
Specifications
form
of
the
documents
and
engineers.
A
Item
74,
the
animal
control
facility
bid
package
number
five.
This
is
masonry
the
resolution
proving
that
plan
specifications
form
of
contract
documents,
engineers,
estimate,
receive
and
file
the
bids
and
designate
the
lowest
responsive
responsible
bidder
is
seadorf
masonry,
inc,
mark,
goodskow,
634
thousand
seven
hundred
and
forty
dollars
council
communication
number
22-132
a
is
approval
of
the
contract
and
the
bond.
A
And
again
these
are
comments
only
specific
to
the
plans.
The
specifications
form
of
documents
and
engineers
estimate
in
the
low
bidder.
Z
War.
Three,
sorry,
you
didn't
like
my
bad
story.
I
thought
it
was
relevant,
maybe
not
again,
six
hundred
thirty
four
thousand
dollars
in
this
case.
I
appreciate
us
again
breaking
this
up,
trying
to
make
it
more
manageable.
I
haven't
seen
that
this
is
affordable
for
what
we're
spending
the
money
on
again.
Z
How
much
is
this
a
percentage
of
our
budget,
this
whole
project,
and
it
rolls
up
to
dmpd
that
it
simply
could
go
to
something
that
would
better
serve
the
community
again,
you
decided
to
put
all
these
items
on
here
and
I'm
sorry
if
you
don't
like
me
talking
about
them,
but
I'm
gonna
keep
coming
up
and
bringing
up
again
how
much
money
we're
spending
on
public
safety
opposed
to
paying
our
employees
a
living
wage
or
making
sure
they're
adequately
equipped
do.
A
AJ
H
I'll
move
74
in
74
a.
O
Hasn't
been
addressed
and
it
has
been
brought
up,
I
will
say
the
funding
source,
for
these
is
general
obligation,
bonds,
a
private
grant
and
the
road
use
tax.
I
just
wanted
to
be
clear
about
that,
since
it
hadn't
been
addressed.
A
Number
75:
it's
animal
control
facility
bid
package
number
seven.
This
is
the
roof
and
in
the
sheet
metal
resolution,
improving
the
plan,
specifications
form
of
contract
documents,
engineers
estimate
receive
and
file
bids
and
designating
the
lowest
responsive,
responsible
bidder
is
academy,
roofing
and
sheet
metal
of
the
midwest
doing
businesses,
academy,
roofing
and
sheet
metal
company.
Brian
crum
is
the
president
three
hundred
and
twenty
three
thousand
six
hundred
dollars
council
communication
number
22-133.
A
76,
animal
control
facility
bid
package,
number,
nine,
drywall,
framing
acoustic
ceiling
and
painting
resolution,
improving
the
plan,
specifications,
form
of
contract
documents,
engineers
estimate
receive
and
file
bids
and
designating
the
lowest
responsive,
responsible
bidder
as
first
interiors
inc.
Jeffrey
dunn
is
the
president
one
million
one
hundred
and
thirty
five
thousand
dollars
council
communication
number
22-144
a
is
approval
of
the
contract
and
bond
and
permission
to
sublet.
A
K
A
Have
any
comments
regarding
the
plan
specifications
form
of
documents,
engineers
estimated
a
little
better.
Q
Yes,
kevin
hilton,
I
am
in
ward
three
and
I'm
with
carpenters.
Local
106.
Q
I
just
want
to
actually
make
a
statement
prior
to
getting
into
the
selection
of
this
contractor
is
that
construction
is
jobs
and
the
selection
of
contractors
is
important
because
in
this
case
we'd
like
to
commend
city
council
and
the
city
for
this
process
in
selecting
a
contractor
that
is
providing
apprenticeship
opportunities,
career
opportunities
for
people
in
the
community.
Q
This
is
a
good
example
of
where
this
process
actually
did
work
going
forward.
I
hope
that
the
city
will
take
a
look
at
making
certain
that
there
aren't
poor.
You
know
for
practices
on
the
construction
sites
through
the
selection
of
their
contractors
that
may
go
through.
You
know
subcontracting
and
and
layers
of
subs,
where
there's
opportunity
for.
Z
B
Z
That
this,
this
company
is
really
helping
like
build
skills.
I
think
that's
hugely
important.
One
thing
that
I
might
want
to
point
out,
then,
is
that
this
project
is
for
1.1
million
dollars
and
the
city's
estimate
is
490
000,
so
it's
over
twice
the
amount
that
we're
saying
we're
estimating.
So
again,
we
went
through
this
a
bit.
W
Z
When
bidding
was
a
lot
tougher
at
the
beginning
of
the
year,
but
is
this
estimating
issue
that
we
need
to
adjust
that
if
we
want
to
have
companies
that
are
doing
this
sort
of
thing?
Sometimes
you
pay
more
for
that
sort
of
quality,
labor
quality
construction?
Is
that
the
case
I
don't
know,
I
can't
tell
based
on
what
we've
been
provided,
but
again
I
would
be
hesitant
to
overspend
this
drastically
based
on
the
city's
estimates
for
this
year.
O
I'll
say,
I'm
happy
to
see
that
our
that
the
lowest
responsible
bidder
was
a
company
that
is
providing
apprenticeship,
so
I'm
happy
to
hear
that
it
was
just
the
lowest
one.
So
we're
not
spending
like
extra
to
to
have
something
like
that.
However,
I
would
be
open
to
being
a
little
more
specific
in
the
ways
that
we
can
and
I'd
still
like
to
explore
those
possibilities,
but
for
now
I'll
move
76
a
76
76a.
Is
it
two
separate
pieces
technically.
H
A
The
animal
control
facility
bid
package
number
14
mechanical
resolution,
improving
the
plan,
specifications,
form
of
contract
documents,
engineers
estimate
receive
and
file
bids
and
designating
the
lowest
responsive
responsible
bidder
is
aj
allen.
Mechanical
contractors
inc
mark
w
allen
is
the
president
three
million
five
hundred
and
thirty
nine
thousand
nine
hundred
and
seventy
three
dollars.
Council
communication
number
22-118.
Q
Hilton
with
carpenter's
local
106.,
so
just
speaking
in
in
selection
of
the
contractors
through
this
process,
I
would
also
like
to
add
that
going
forward
verification
of
payroll
will
be
a
good
way,
a
good
practice
of
the
city
to
make
certain
and
and
that
there
are
there.
There
is
not
tax
fraud
on
these
jobs
where
people
are
being
paid
in
cash
and
worker
workers
being
exploited.
So
that's
something
to
think
about.
E
And
mr
mayor,
I
did
add
some
verbiage
a
couple
of
meetings
ago
at
the
suggestion
of
jeff.
Was
that
language
able
to
be
put
into
any
of
these,
or
was
that
just
for
private
contracts?.
K
J
H
I
Z
Yeah
I'm
in
agreement
with
all
you.
I
obviously
always
am.
Z
You
limited
to
your
credit.
I
remember
when
you
brought
this
up
on
this
item.
When
this
whole
bidding
process
was
coming
across,
it
brought
up
that
we
should
have
it
for
verifiable
income,
so
it
is
sad
that
we
as
a
city
like
we,
have
a
priority
here
to
do
it
and
we're
still
failing
to
do
it
on
something,
that's
so
important
as
paying
people
the
amount
of
money
that
it
costs
to
live
here,
especially
if
you
think
450
000
is
middle
housing.
I
think
that's
really
shows
your
priorities
again.
Z
This
item
back
to
the
bidding,
because
that's
what's
germaine
we're
six
hundred
thousand
dollars
over
cost
here,
as
well
or
at
least
by
a
city
estimate
again
so
like
when
you
add
all
these
up.
How
much
overestimate
are
we
on
the
project
as
a
whole?
It's
kind
of
kind
of
getting
ridiculous
you'd
go
upside
down.
If
you
were
a
business
at
this
point,
but
yeah.
O
I
before
we
do
that,
I
would
just
like
to
question
that
we
are
not
able
to
require
we're
talking
about
payroll
verification
right,
we're
not
able
to
require
payroll
verification.
That's
what
we're
that's
what
the
conversation
has
been.
Yes,.
AF
AF
In
okay,
but
as
far
as
disqualifying
a
bidder
based
on
that,
that's
not
one
of
the
criteria
that
the
state
allows
us
to
inquire.
O
I
guess
I
had
asked
about
this
last
month
about
a
month
ago
and
just
the
state's
requirements,
bitter
experience,
number
of
employees
and
ability
to
finance
the
cost
of
public
improvement
does
not.
Does
that
not
fall
under
ability
to
finance
the
cost
of
the
public
improvement.
AF
Do
we
don't
we
don't
think
the
case
law
would
support
that?
I'm
happy
to
visit
with
you.
O
E
I
would
just
like
us
to
look
at
that
because
I
know
I
have
sent
out
the
omaha
ordinance
and
I
was
told
omaha
nebraska
does
things
different
than
iowa
does,
but
that
we
could
work
on
getting
some
sort
of
verbiage?
I
believe
I
sent
you
some
verbiage
and-
and
you
gave
me
suggestions
at
one
of
the
council
meetings
several
months
ago,
so
I
think
it's
really
important
that
we
get
that
language
in
there.
J
C
A
Item
78
animal
control
facility
bid
package
number
15..
This
is
electrical
resolution,
proving
the
plan
specifications
form
of
contract
documents,
engineers
estimate
receive
and
file
bids
and
designating
the
lowest
responsive
responsible
bidder
is
van
maanen
electric
inc
nathan
s
van
manen
is
the
president
949
thousand
seven
hundred
dollars
council
communication
number
22-120
a
is
approval
of
the
contract
and
bond
and
permission
to
sublet
again
we'll
ask
if
anyone
in
the
public
would
like
to
make
any
comments
regarding
the
plan
specifications
form
of
those
documents,
engineers
estimated
a
little
bitter.
A
B
E
AK
O
I
have
a
quick
question:
just
with
the
intention
of
splitting
up
the
bid
packages
is
to
bid
them
all
separately,
but
it
isn't
necessarily
to
have
separate
companies
on
each
of
them,
because
this
is
just
a
we've
had
two
that
are
jensen
now.
F
N
O
Q
A
Again,
it's
on
the
animal
control
facility
bid
package
number
17..
This
one
is
landscaping
resolution
proving
plans,
specifications,
former
contract
documents,
engineers
estimate
receive
and
file
bids
and
designating
the
lowest
responsive
responsible
bidder
is
alpha
landscapes,
llc
riley
marvin
is
the
owner.
145
950,
council
communication
number
22-130
a
is
approving
the
contract
and
the
bond
and
again
we'll
open
it
up
for
jermaine
comments
on
the
plans.
Specifications
form
of
documents,
engineers
estimate
a
little
better.
A
A
A
under
that
is
ordering
the
construction
of
the
following:
the
animal
control
facility,
big
package,
number
three
general
carpentry
number:
six
architectural
mill,
work,
number,
eight
glazing
and
metal
panels;
number
ten
number
eleven
fluid
applied
flooring
received
bids,
4,
26,
22
and
setting
date
of
hearing
5
9
of
22.
The
engineers
estimate
for
all
those
packages
is
1
and
million
thousand
dollars.
A
Two,
mr,
are
we
gonna
vote
on
these
separately
or
together?
All
right
two
is
the
animal
control
facility
bed
package
number
twelve,
which
is
the
kennels
and
the
cat
cages
receiving
bids
of
april
26
of
22
and
setting
the
date
of
hearing
of
may
9th
of
22?
The
engineer's
estimate
is
450
000
council
communication,
number
22-146.
A
A
C
F
AM
I
just
ask:
I
have
a
job
that
I
can't
get
off
at
five
o'clock.
I
would
I
did
carry
a
pocket
knife
in
here.
I
had
to
go
back
to
my
car,
I'm
on
item
61,
1100
army
post
road
and
if
I
could
just
have
a
chance
to
speak,
I
would
greatly
appreciate
it.
A
Council
item
61,
is,
you
recall,
was
the
request
to
amend
plan
dsm,
creating
our
tomorrow
future
land
use
designation
for
property
located
at
1100
army
post
road
from
community
mixed
use
to
allow
rezoning
from
rx1
mixed
use
district
to
i1
industrial
district
to
allow
for
outdoor
storage.
R
A
A
N
AM
I
appreciate
thank
you
guys
for
everything
I
I
haven't
been
to
city
council.
In
a
long
time.
I
don't
realize
which
side
of
the
line
you're
on
this
is
a
thankless
job.
I
I
really
get
it
by
coming
down
here.
I've
owned
the
business
I've
owned
that
building
for
over
seven
years.
I
haven't
changed
a
single
thing.
I
bought
it.
It's
a
seven
car
garage
and
a
little
office
about
the
size
of
a
bathroom.
AM
I
use
it
for
storage
some
stuff
inside
some
stuff
outside
it's
got
a
six
foot
fence
with
bob
wear
on
the
top.
I
two
years
ago
they
came
by
and
wanted
to
do
a
sidewalk
through
there.
I
don't
understand
why
I'm
even
here,
but
I
was
all
about
putting
the
sidewalk
in.
Let
them
put
the
sidewalk
in
and
everything
else.
I
know
my
trailer
was
there
when
we
zoned
it,
they
poured
the
approach
for
the
outside
storage.
The
city
did
paid
for
that.
Who
was
the
inspectors
there?
When
was
it
there?
AM
I
haven't
changed
a
single
thing
and
it
won't
want
to
change
it.
They
want
to
make
it
sound
like
I
want
to
be
a
factory
there,
I'm
not
changing
anything
else.
I
just
want
to
be
able
to
keep
my
outside
storage
and
a
trailer
there.
That's
all
I've
ever
asked.
That's
all
I've
ever
done.
I
thought
I
had
permission
because
I
had
six
foot
fence
and
bob
wire.
I've
talked
to
them
about
trying
to
redo
some
stuff.
AM
As
far
as
like
changing
the
fence
to
like
a
closed
in
like
a
wooden
fence
or
something,
but
the
problem
is,
is
it's
a
really
narrow
lot?
If
you
look
at
it
and
it's
it's
small
and
there's
not
a
lot
of
exterior
space,
so
I
mean
it's
it's
just
very
difficult.
I
would
talk
to
all
the
neighbors
around
there.
All
the
business
people,
the
landlords,
the
tenants,
everybody
I
even
got
packets.
I
went
door
to
door
talked
to
everybody.
I
got
over
37
of
them.
I
think
nobody
cares.
They
all
looked
at
me
like.
AM
Why
are
we
even
here
or
I
didn't
even
know
that
you
had
it
there?
I
mean
I've
talked
two
blocks
around
in
every
which
direction
I
want
to
talk
to
the
people
that
live
there,
work
there
and
drive
by
there.
Nobody
cares
nobody
even
notices
it
I'm
not
wanting
to
change
anything.
I
don't
know
what
I
need
to
do,
but
logistics.
I
don't
keep
my
stuff
out
there
any
more
than
I
have
to,
but
at
some
times
I
do
keep
a
trailer
there
for
a
day
or
two.
AM
I
don't
like
to
keep
it
in
either,
but
that's
all
I
want
is
a
trailer
and
some
outside
storage
and
I'm
willing
to
do
whatever
it
wants,
but
every
time
I
just
get
boxed
in
and
like
I
can't
do
this,
I
can't
do
that
and
they
make
it
sound
like
and,
like
I
said,
the
city
came
by
and
did
they
inspected
it?
So
I'm
just.
A
A
A
we've
got
a
member
here
that
served
a
significant
number
of
years
on
the
zoning
board
of
adjustment,
and
I
think
that
really
is
the
appropriate
place
to
do
this
not
to
have
permanent
zoning,
but
to
allow
you
to
do
whatever
it
is
that
you're
doing
that
sounds
like
you've
gotten
some
acceptance
by
the
neighbors.
I
think
that
long-term
fear
is
that
the
changing
of
the
zoning
all
of
a
sudden
opens
it
up
to
who
knows
what.
AM
I
mean
even
the
church
next
door
doesn't
care,
the
neighborhood
association
doesn't
care,
I
mean
I
was
there
with
you
that
there
and
we
talked
about
it.
I
mean
they
said
no,
no
problems.
This
is
the
neighborhood
association
didn't
care
about
that
at
all
and
the
church
I
went
to
the
church.
I
talked
to
them.
They
I
it's
in
here.
I
have
it.
You.
AM
E
O
O
A
AO
Brad
wisemeyer
ward,
three
I
just
wanna
first
off
thanks
for
coming
and
being
able
to
speak
up
for
yourself,
I
appreciate
being
able
to
advocate,
for
yourself
counsel,
you
make
exceptions
every
meeting
to
zoning
and
boarding
commission's
declarations
or
findings
or
whatever
seems
like
a
perfect
opportunity
to
be
able
to
do
that
for
somebody
who's
here,
who
means
well
clearly,
obviously
has
the
buy-in
from
the
community
instead
of
doing
that
for
like
random
property
developers
all
the
time.
AO
Z
Appreciate
opening
this,
I
was
stuck
in
the
overflow
for
this
one.
I
wasn't
able
to
come
until
62.,
which
interesting
I'm
not
sure
why
we
still
have
overflow
with
limited
seating,
because
there's
no
mass
mandates
anymore,
but
I
don't
know
it
seems
silly
yeah.
It's
super
interesting
to
see
who
you
vote
with
and
vote
against,
the
planning
and
zoning
commission.
Z
W
Z
Areas
that
you're
directing
people
to
go
to
so
is
that
really
helpful?
Are
you
just
pushing
off
the
problem?
Again
he's
been
running
his
business
as
as
it
sits
here,
you
tried
to
put
industrial
chemicals
last
meeting
with
all
these
exceptions
for
hey,
you
have
to
do
it
just
this
way.
I
don't
see
why
we
can't
make
similar
accommodations
for
businesses
that
are
already
in
the
area
yeah.
I
just
think
you
should
be
consistent.
Maybe.
O
So
if
there's
no
more
public
comment,
I
guess
this
is
my
concern
is
just
that
we're
going
to
run
into
a
situation
where
somebody
who's
had
it
had
the
situation
they've
been
with
for
seven
years,
you
said:
you've
had
this
building
for
seven
years.
Nobody
has
an
issue
with
anything,
that's
going
on,
there's,
hardly
anything
that,
like
you,
know,
justifies
the
need
for
an
industrial
zoning
and
if
we
are
able
to
again
like
we
did
with
62,
go
back
and
create
conditions
that
are
acceptable
sitting
the
owner
and
the
owners.
O
I
just
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
not
putting
somebody
in
a
situation
that
just
doesn't
make
any
sense
to
put
them
in.
I
also,
I
also
understand
the
point
of
like
it
doesn't
make
sense
to
zone
industrial
here.
I
just
don't
want
to
put
someone
in
a
situation
where
we're
like
sorry
this
thing
that
you've
been
doing
for
seven
years
and
that
nobody
cares
about
is
going
to
be
denied,
and
my
concern
comes
from
the
summary
of
the
discussion
at
the
planning
and
zoning
meeting
judy
park's
crew
stated.
A
use.
O
Variance
is
almost
never
allowed
due
to
the
stipulation
set
by
state
and
city
code,
the
zoning
board
of
adjustment.
Let's
find
a
piece
of
land
that
could
not
be
used
for
anything
else,
and
so
this
is
why
we
need
to
deny
the
rezoning,
but
I'm
just
that-
raises
the
concern
to
me
that
the
use
variance
wouldn't
be
allowed
at
the
zoning
board
of
adjustment.
And,
if
I'm
wrong
on
that,
please
clarify
because,
if
going
through
the
zoning
board
of
adjustment
and
getting
the
use
variance-
and
you
know-
would
just
completely
solve
the
situation.
E
Yeah
sure
I
sat
on
board
of
adjustment
for
many
years.
If
we,
if
we
allowed
this
applicant
to
change
the
zoning
from
mixed
use
to
industrial,
then
we
run
into
a
completely
different
use.
He
could
then
sell
that
property.
You
could
have
somebody
move
in.
You
know
industrial
and
you
have
all
kinds
of
outside
storage.
It's
completely
different
and
that's
on
a
on
a
corridor.
That's
not
what
we
have
designed
for
that.
If
he
would
go
to
board
of
adjustment,
they're
very
reasonable,
he
can
take
his
petitions
grab.
E
E
Because
he's
been
forced
to
change
the
zoning,
that's
not
what
board
of
adjustment
would
do.
His
zoning
would
still
be
rx1.
They
would
just
give
him
an
exception
or
variance
to
be
able
to
use
his
property
for
what
he's
been
using
it
for
it
for
the
last
seven
years.
That's
not
something
we
can
do
here.
That's
not
on
the
agenda.
O
A
I
think
a
recommendation
along
with
this,
that
they
for
these
purposes
and
allow
him
to
speak
openly
and
okay.
O
E
E
I
I
can't
answer
for
for
board
of
adjustment,
but
yes,
if
he
were
denied,
I
suppose
that
is
the
case,
but
he's
got
lots
of
information
there
and
it's
a
very
reasonable
board.
They're
made
up
of
boards
that
made
up
of
people
that
we
have
appointed,
that
we
put
our
trust
in
that
they
will
make
reasonable
decisions.
E
O
E
O
Hope
that
is
the
case.
I
remember
maybe
a
year
and
a
half
ago
a
similar
request
was
made
that
was
denied
at
the
zoning
board
of
adjustments.
I
guess
that's
again
where
my
concern
it
was
a
while
ago,
so
I
couldn't
point
to
the
date
to
you,
but
like
it
was
a
while,
like
I
that's
where
my
concern
lies,
I
guess
is
just
that.
Like
the
process,
I
guess
is
what
I
was
asking
about.
AF
AF
Judicial
board.
That
means
that
it's
improper
for
council
to
contact
them
directly
and
have
any
kind
of
expertise.
Communication
on
any
item,
that's
before
them.
On
the
other
hand,
there's
nothing
that
would
prohibit
council
from
saying
that
the
the
council
understands
his
his
situation
doesn't
want
to
do
the
zoning,
but
is
recommending
that
he
go
to
board
of
adjustment,
but
that
would
be
about
as
far
as
as
you
can
go
because.
AF
L
P
I'm
happy
to
move
again
alternative
a
with
a
recommendation
that
this
go
to
zoning
board
of
adjustment,
and
I
don't
is
there
additional
language
that
we
can?
We
can
add.
P
AF
L
O
P
A
Thanks
for
coming
down
all
right,
we're
going
to
now
go
back
to
the
consent
item
7
council
member
boss,
which
is
a
public
improvement,
approving
the
professional
services
agreement
with
tool,
design
group
llc
for
professional
services
to
develop
a
vision,
zero
citywide
transportation
safety
plan
not
to
exceed
two
hundred
and
twenty
three
thousand
four
hundred
and
forty
five
dollars.
Council
communication
number
22-112.
H
Mr
boss,
thank
you
mayor
county.
I
I
am
really
looking
forward
to
tools.
Engagement
with
our
city
staff
and
members
of
the
community.
They've
have
experienced
developing
vision,
zero
plans
through
through
other
communities.
H
So
they
have
a
clear
goal,
is
to
eliminate
auto
fatalities
and
serious
injuries.
So
I
I
believe
most
of
the
council
members
would
agree
with
me
that
the
largest
or
the
most
frequent
complaint
that
we
hear
from
neighbors
is
that
cars
are
going
too
fast
in
their
neighborhood
and
when
tool
has
developed
these
programs
elsewhere.
H
H
Some
people
call
it
zebra
crossings
or
abbey
road
crossings,
so
I
would
expect
that
that
might
be
part
of
their
plan
and
they
will
have
multi-year
priorities
and
with
that
I'd
like
to
move
item,
seven.
B
E
Thank
you.
I
you
know
this
was
on
the
consent
agenda.
I
pulled
it.
I
just
cannot
put
any
kind
of
approval
on
this
preliminary
plat.
What's
interesting
to
me
that
this
is
in
the
grace,
woods,
neighborhood
and
if,
if
any
of
you
are
familiar
with
gray's
woods,
the
properties
there's
no
sewer,
they
are
on
septic.
E
There
is
water,
there
are
no
curbs,
there
are
no
gutters,
there
are
not
even
cement
roads
like
what
we're
used
to
or
what
we
see
in
other
parts
of
the
city
full
of
trees.
Very
large
large
lots.
I
think
the
people
that
live
there
are
very
lucky.
I
think
most
of
us
would
love
to
live
in
an
area
like
this.
It's
quiet,
it's!
E
You
know
it's
serene.
It's
like
walking,
it's
like
driving
through
a
countryside,
and
what
has
happened
is
this
person
came
in
and
wants
to
take
two
lot
of
records
and
put
six
houses
there
and
from
what
I've
seen
on
the
plans
he
wants
to
put
in
a
street
with
the
cul-de-sac
and
put
six
houses
around
it?
This
does
not
fit
with
the
neighborhood
it
there
are.
There
are
not
other
homes
anywhere
near
there
that
are
like
this.
E
E
I
I
went
back
and
I
watched
the
I
think
it
was
the
march
march
15th
plan
and
zoning
meeting,
and
quite
a
few
it
looked
like.
E
There
was
quite
a
few
neighbors
who
got
up
and
spoke
and
there
wasn't
one
person
that
was
in
favor
of
this
now
I
realized
there
was
not
a
neighborhood
meeting
because
it
was
not
required
because
it
wasn't
a
change
of
zoning,
but
it's
very
clear
that
this
is
not
an
appropriate
place
to
put
six
houses
when
everybody
around
it
has
their
large
large
lots,
and
you
know
no
sidewalks,
no
gutters,
no
storm
sewers.
It's
a
very
different
feel
than
what
you
have.
E
If
you
were
going
to
go
out
and
put
in
a
new
development
and
put
in
a
cul-de-sac
and
put
six
houses
there,
that's
very
different
than
what
we
have
here.
It's
not
on
a
corridor.
It's
set
back,
you
know
most
people,
you,
you
know
you
could
drive
around
grace
woods
and
you're.
Just
gonna
see
houses
back
behind
the
trees.
E
It's
it's
in
their
plan.
If
you
go
back
and
you
look
at
the
neighborhood
plan
that
the
city,
the
city
put
their
stamp
of
approval
on
and
it's
published,
and
it
says
they
want
to
keep
their
larger
lots
and
keep
the
the
keep
the
the
feel
of
the
neighborhood.
That
it
is
current
so
for
that
I'm
going
to
vote
no,
and
I
have
asked
my
fellow
council
members
to
vote.
No,
you.
C
To
go
for
right,
I
go
no
go.
I
guess
my
thing
is
when
we're
talking
about
needing
more
housing.
This
is
an
area,
and
I
I
know
the
area.
I
would
only
hope
this
would
lead
to
better
improvements
of
better
roads,
better
sidewalks
and
with
the
sewer
retention
they're
talking
about,
I
think,
unless
we
need
might
legally
to
come
in,
it
sounds
like
the
houses
are
going
to
be
comparable
to
the
rest
of
the
houses
in
that
area.
C
So
from
a
standpoint,
I
appreciate
that
there's
a
lot
of
wooded
area
and
there's
a
lot
of
need.
We
need
to
get
these
houses,
probably
off
the
septic,
and
that's
what
we
heard
about
this
morning
that
I
think
that
this,
when
you
look
at
the
amount
of
land
we
have
versus
six
homes
there,
it
gives
us
an
opportunity
to
put
more
housing
in
an
area
that
right
now
is
just
empty.
So
I
would,
I
guess
I
can't
support
that.
C
I
think
that
in
the
aspect
of
that
neighborhood,
I
think
we
can
put
housing
and
do
it
well,
because
it
is
wooded.
I
mean
it's
a
great
area,
it's,
but
there's
a
lot
of
amenities
that
need
to
be
done
in
that
area,
and
this
could
hopefully
lead
to
some
of
that,
because
it's
done
about
a
block
down
where
they
put
newer
homes,
but.
C
C
L
Even
with
the
no
vote,
the
plat
is
approved
already
by
the
plan
and
zoning
commission,
so
the
final
plat
would
have
to
come
to
council
at
a
later
time.
At
that
point,
the
council
would
have
to
make
a
decision
of
whether
or
not
the
final
plat
is
consistent
with
the
approved
preliminary
plot,
and
so
then
the
council
would
have
a
chance
to
vote
at
that
point.
L
O
I
would
like
to
speak
on
this
as
well,
and
I'm
going
to
express
a
little
bit
of
consistency
here.
I
was
at
the
planning
and
zoning
meeting
where
this
was
discussed,
and
I
heard
the
neighborhoods
the
neighborhood
concerns
again
or
even
more
strongly
much
more
strongly.
What
I
heard
was
we
need
more
density.
We
need
more
housing,
but
not
here
in
my
neighborhood
and
I
question
where,
then
we
need
to
increase
our
housing
exponentially
and
we
are
nowhere
near
that
goal.
We
aren't
even
on
track
towards
that
goal.
O
I
can't
be
in
opposition
to
building
housing,
especially
on
an
empty
lot,
and
I
understand
the
concerns
that
you
have.
I
would
like
to
see
you
know
the
hook
up
to
sewer
the
the
improve
roads
and
sidewalks,
and
I
just
want
to
acknowledge
people
in
the
audience.
O
These
are
the
exact
same
complaints
that
y'all
brought
up
yours
and
I
I
have
to
say
that
I
just
have
to
approve
building
housing,
and
I
just
want
to
respond
to
to
one
comment:
no
one
should
be
lucky
to
live
in
a
certain
neighborhood
in
our
city.
O
Everyone
should
have
that
opportunity,
so
I
think
that
we
do
need
to
be
developing
more
housing
and
we
need
to
be
developing
that
housing
at
different
income
levels
so
that
we
have
that
diversity
in
our
neighborhoods
and
nobody
gets
to
say
I'm
so
lucky
that
I
live
on
multiple
acres
in
what's
a
growing
city.
So
I
have
to.
O
E
O
E
Go
back
and
listen
to
it
because
I
just
watched
it
and
the
concern
was
the
groundwater
that
would
be
going
into
their
septic
systems.
It
would
be
concern
about
the
trees
that
are
taken
down.
I
mean
right
now,
it's
a
very
hilly
terrain
and
you
get
you
start
putting
cement
and
you
start
putting
putting
houses
and
sidewalks
that
water
has
to
go
somewhere
and
graze
woods
we've
when
we
we
have
no
plans.
E
O
O
O
A
AH
H
A
A
L
AF
The
the
agenda
item
that
was
on
display
for
review
and
approval
of
preliminary
plat,
that
is,
that,
is
not
correct
it.
The
actual
roll
call,
is
a
receive
and
file
communication
from
pnz.
Regarding
the
preliminary
plat
and
then
in
the
body
of
the
resolution,
the
city
council
hereby
receives,
and
files.
AF
A
J
I'm
extremely
confused
and
I'm
sorry
that
I'm
not
there-
it
probably
doesn't
make
it
easier
that,
but
so
we're
voting
to
receive
and
file
something
that
the
planning
and
zoning
commission
already
approved.
Correct.
J
Okay,
so,
even
if
even
if
you
know
linda
decides
to
say,
okay,
I'm
going
to
vote,
yes
we're
all
going
to
vote.
Yes,
we
still
get
another
look
at
it
and
at
that
point
in
time
we
can
have
a
discussion
of
what
it's
going.
We
don't
even
know
what
it's
I
don't
even
know
what
it's
going
to
be
built
there.
Yes,.
AF
AF
A
I
J
K
H
A
O
All
right,
so
it
seems
it
seems,
and
it
I
think
it
is
that
every
single
council
meeting
I'm
pulling
off
some
item
about
police
funding
and
I'm
sure
that
I'm
getting
just
as
tired
of
that
as
the
rest
of
you
are,
but
it's
indicative
of
the
fact
of
how
much
we
spend
and
how
often
we're
spending
on
this
police
funding.
But
specifically,
I
got
a
comment
from
someone
in
the
public
who
wanted
me
to
read
their
comment
on
this.
O
I'm
concerned
about
item
54
on
the
consent
agenda
for
funding
49
night
vision,
eyepieces
to
be
used
by
the
statewide
tactical
response
teams,
including
12
of
them
here
in
des
moines.
We
do
not
need
to
be
spending
nearly
half
a
million
dollars
on
more
and
more
paramilitary
equipment
for
our
police
department.
O
The
dmpd
has
historically
and
especially
in
recent
months,
chosen
to
raid
the
homes
of
community
members
and
families
in
the
middle
of
the
night.
Not
only
do
these
overly
aggressive
raids,
terrorize
the
communities
where
they
occur,
it
is
racially
targeted
at
our
black
community
members.
Multiple
council
members
stated
their
desire
for
independent
investigation
into
the
dmpd,
given
their
inability
to
actually
serve
the
community
or
even
protect
their
own
employees
from
harassment.
O
I
have
yet
to
see
any
item
come
before
council
that
even
approaches
accountability
for
the
dmpd,
but
yet
again
we
have
hundreds
of
thousands
for
more
equipment
on
the
consent
agenda.
This
type
of
equipment
just
further
enables
the
terrorizing
of
our
community
and
doesn't
actually
accomplish
anything
towards
the
public
safety.
It
claims
to
serve
so
and
a
little
bit
of
a
different
situation
than
some
of
the
other.
O
You
know
swat
team
bomb
squad,
weapons
of
mass
destruction,
team
items
that
we
have
had
before
when
we
were
approving
the
bomb,
defusing
robots
and
all
of
the
items
that
were
associated
with
that
those
were
necessary
to
get
a
certain
like
rating
of
bomb
squad
to
get
like
a
type
one
bomb
squad.
I
believe
that
has
the
capability
to
you
know
protect
us
from
car
bombs
and
things
like
this
this
I
did
not
see
anything
that
buying
this
equipment
would
grant
us
a
certain.
O
You
know
great
of
of
status
for,
like
oh
we're,
meeting
some
expectations,
we're
meeting
some
requirements
that
are
set
by
homeland
security.
I
didn't
see
that
and
the
concern
that
was
brought
up
in
the
public
comment
that
I
read
is
a
serious
concern
to
mine.
O
I
have
people
that
I
know
who
have
been
traumatized
pretty
horribly
by
these
police
raids
in
the
middle
of
the
night
that
were
completely
unwarranted,
and
so
I
think
that
our
continuous
approval
without
question
and
without
consideration
and
without
any
alternate
action
that
is
addressing
these
issues
that
have
been
brought
up
is
irresponsible,
and
so
I
will
be
voting
now
on
this.
B
A
That
now
takes
us
to
ordinances.
First
consideration
amending
chapter
114,
the
municipal
code
regarding
traffic
regulation
changes
as
follows:
council
communication
number
22:
22-141
a
is
a
proposed
code
change
to
allow
additional
on-street
parking
on
wallet
street
between
3rd
street
and
4th
street
and
to
match
field
conditions.
H
P
K
A
To
our
public
speaking
items
and
for
those
persons
wishing
to
to
speak
this
evening
under
the
public
speaking
item
on
the
agenda,
we
will
only
be
calling
on
those
who
have
registered
to
speak.
All
speakers
must
comply
with
the
rules
regarding
their
names
and
addresses
or
will
not
be
recognized.
A
Each
of
the
15
speakers
this
evening
will
receive
up
to
two
minutes
each
to
make
their
comments.
Please
keep
your
own
time
because
at
the
end
of
the
two
minutes,
clerk
will
announce
time
and
the
speaker's
mic
will
be
closed
and
we
will
move
immediately
to
the
next
speaker.
We
want
to
hear
from
all
of
our
residents
and
we
encourage
residents
to
be
respectful
of
others
views
that
are
different
from
their
own.
A
While
you
may
certainly
disagree
with
that
viewpoint,
I
want
to
remind
everyone
that
the
council's
rules
provide
that
any
comments
that
are
slanderous
will
result
in
speaker
being
barred
from
further
comment.
As
the
presiding
officer,
I
will
determine
whether
the
comments
are
slanders
or
not,
but
fair
warning,
arguing
with
the
presiding
officer
about
the
determinations.
A
On
any
matter
is
not
permitted
in
doing
so
will
be
considered,
disruptive
and
result
from
the
speaker
being
barred
from
further
comment
and
being
required
to
leave
the
building.
I
would
also
like
to
say
this
evening.
We
had
some
issues
regarding
people
coming
up
or
speaking
too
long.
A
I
will
ask
that
we
will
call
the
speaker's
name,
and
I
want
that
person
to
come
up
and
then
they'll
get
there
two
minutes,
and
then
I
would
like
that
person
to
sit
down
and
leave
the
microphone
and
then
we'll
call
the
next
person
we're
not
going
to
let
somebody
else
just
come
up
to
the
microphone,
even
though
it
may
be
their
turn.
You
I'm
going
to
ask
that
nobody
come
to
the
microphone
until
their
name
is
called
so
that
will
be
disruptive
and
be
removed
and
asked
to
leave
okay.
AG
Denver
foot
she
her
pronouns
ward,
three
five,
oh
three,
one
two.
I
came
here
with
to
talk
about
some
specific
remarks
towards
the
mid-american
franchise
agreement.
But
after
sitting
through
a
council
meeting,
I
am
very
frustrated.
I
honestly
have
a
lot
of
anxiety,
seeing
I
could
not
be
part
of
any
of
the
budget
public
meetings
because
I
work
45
hours
a
week
in
a
salon,
and
I
can't
do
anything
virtual
because
I
work
in
a
salon
once
again.
AG
So
the
rule
meetings
were
very
unaccessible
for
working
class
people,
so
I
wasn't
able
to
speak
on
why
we
cannot
increase
the
dmpd
funding
because
I
know
personally
what
it
feels
like
to
be
attacked
by
our
police
force.
I
have
been
hit
trigger
warning
by
with
batons.
I
have
been
amazed
and
after
that
happened,
I
wasn't
able
to
work
my
job
for
months,
because
I
could
not
leave
my
apartment
after
that
happened.
I
could
not
drive
my
car
because
of
the
trauma
of
what
happened.
AG
Seeing
the
cops
down
here
is
terrifying
to
me,
but
I
keep
showing
up
and
I
keep
speaking
out
because
I
know
what
it
feels
like
to
be
being
down.
I
know
what
it
feels
like
to
be
hurt.
I
know
what
it
feels
like
to
be
silenced
and
forgotten
by
my
city,
where
I
came
here
to
be
accepted
to
experience
things
that
I
have
never
experienced
and
the
fact
that
y'all
keep
putting
dmpd
funding
on
the
consent
agenda
is
abysmal.
AG
It
is
discussing
into
people
of
color
to
people
who
come
here
to
try
and
find
comfort
to
try
and
find
answers
to
their
issues
that
they
have
it
makes
me
literally
see
like.
I
could
not
focus
on
anything
in
the
meeting
when
I
saw
okay
we're
going
to
get
infrared
whatever
eyeglasses
for
the
cops,
so
they
can
respond
to
crime.
That's
not
answering
crime's
question,
that's
just
responding
to
it.
AG
AD
Adam
callahan,
he
him
word
35309
on
accessibility.
We
need
virtual
hybrid
meetings.
Now
many
members
of
the
public
cannot
come
to
city
hall
due
to
lack
of
accessibility
on
many
things.
That's
made
a
lot
worse
by
the
lack
of
the
mask
ban
or
sorry,
the
black,
the
mask
mandate.
These
are
not
public
meetings.
If
not,
everyone
can
attend
and
right
now
not
everyone
can
attend.
AD
The
city
has
had
more
than
six
months
to
figure
out
how
to
provide
any
kind
of
virtual
option
and
has
not
delivered
anything
substantial,
even
as
long
as
lines
of
like
an
update.
It's
also
questionable
that
the
city
is
keeping
these
meetings
at
coveted
capacity.
After
removing
all
the
cover
restrictions
like
the
mask
made
in
the
building,
we
had
people
in
this
meeting
who
couldn't
talk
because
they
were
out
in
the
overflow
room
and
that's
just
really
odd,
especially
because
I
know
like
on
the
cameras,
if
you're
just
watching
this
at
home.
AD
You
would
just
think
this
is
how
many
people
came
out
to
city
hall,
and
it's
not.
It
was
like
double
the
amount
of
people
that
were
here
at
the
start.
It's
just
really
bizarre
to
me.
Council
should
also
remove
the
ban
of
food
and
drinks
in
city
hall.
We
were
here
for
a
long
time
and
we've
had
no
food
or
drinks.
I
know
council
gets
like
some
kind
of
drinks.
AD
I
don't
know
what
you
get,
but
I
know
that
rule
doesn't
apply
to
everybody
in
here
and
it
needs
to
be
dropped
if
it's
not
applied
to
everybody,
public
trust
and
dmpd.
I
keep
hearing
the
city
of
spending
more
money
to
build
public
trust
in
dmpt.
That
concerns
me
greatly
because
the
public
doesn't
trust
empty
for
very
valid
reasons
that
others
have
spoken
already
brought
up,
and
if
the
city
wants
to
build
trust,
they
should
address
the
harm.
AD
The
des
moines
police
department
has
done
not
just
fund
expensive
pr
campaigns
to
put
more
money
and
power
into
the
police
to
convince
people
to
trust
people
that
don't
need
to
be
trusted.
We
shouldn't
ask
the
public
to
trust
in
untrustworthy
racist,
sexist,
violent
department,
and
we
definitely
shouldn't
spend
our
money
to
do
so.
We
need
to
fire
police
chief,
dana
wingert
fire
city
manager,
scott
sanders
and
defund.
The
des
moines
police
department,
we
won
a
racial
profiling
ban
and
part
of
our
demands,
and
now
years
later,
we've
not
seen
major
progress.
AD
AP
AP
AP
AP
We
want
a
third-party
investigation
of
dmpd
when
you
have
that
racial
profiling
of
black
men
and
women,
and
then
you
got
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
so
far
paid
off
for
police
misconduct
and
recent
allegation
of
sexual
harassment
within
the
police
department.
So
I
say
to
you:
remove
your
hand
off
a
delay.
AP
Delay
button
speak
to
these
issues
on
the
april,
4th
city,
council
meeting
it's
about
accountability,
and
that
includes
chief
winger
speaking
of
accountability.
I
believe
the
public
works
report
is
to
be
finalized
in
may.
Yes,
yes,
yes,
yes,
yes,
okay,
thank
you!
Well,
we
the
community,
the
public,
want
to
know
the
results
of
that
report.
We
want
the
good,
the
bad
and
the
ugly.
AQ
Reside
in
ward
1
50310
is
my
zip
code.
I'm
a
member
of
iowa
cci's,
racial
justice
team
and
here's
a
little
history
lesson
for
you,
council
that
took
you
nearly
two
years
to
pass
an
anti-racial
profiling
ordinance
in
june
of
2020,
but
you
left
quite
a
bit
out
that
the
public
asked
for
you
left
out
a
ban
on
pretextual
stops,
which
are
still
happening
in
the
city.
AQ
Today,
you
left
out
the
creation
of
a
community
review
board,
there's
a
great
city,
rapids
model
that
you
need
to
give
strong
consideration
and
discussion
about,
so
that
people
like
me
and
other
members
of
the
community,
don't
have
to
do
the
community
oversight
of
our
own
police
department
and
three.
You
left
out
making
marijuana
a
low
level
in
fort
enforcement
priority.
AQ
You
never
even
adopted
one
recommendation
that
your
own
marijuana
task
force
suggested,
and
so
here
we
are
four
years
later
and
we
have
a
police
department
that
has
cost
taxpayers
one
and
a
half
million
dollars
in
lawsuits
settlements
for
wrongful
conduct.
Here
we
are
four
years
later
with
a
police
department
that
has
been
accused
by
five
of
its
own
female
employees
of
sexual
discrimination
and
ongoing
sexual
harassment.
Here
we
are
four
years
later
with
the
police
department
that
engages
in
excessive
force.
AQ
I
know
you've
seen
the
videos
of
police
violence
during
the
2020
protest,
if
not
they're,
going
viral
on
social
media
and
right
now
there
are
eight
pending
lawsuits
against
the
dmpd
representing
23
plaintiffs,
so
get
ready
to
shell
out
some
more
taxpayer
money
to
settle
these
lawsuits.
So
we're
not
going
to
wait
another
three
or
four
years.
AQ
We
demand
that
a
third
party
investigation
of
the
des
moines
police
department.
We
want
a
community
review
board
and
because
of
the
toxic
and
ongoing
corrupt
culture
that
is
endorsed
at
the
top
chief
wingard,
must
go
city
council,
it's
your
job!
It's
your
job
to
make
sure
that
policing
is
fair
and
equitable
and
non-violent,
and
we
expect
to
see
these
three
items
on
the
next
city
council
agenda.
Thank
you.
AL
AL
Finally,
on
the
city
council
agenda
to
be
addressed
by
the
full
council,
so
we're
asking
we
are
asking
that
you,
the
city
council,
take
the
responsibility
that
you're
tasked
with
to
ensure
all
people
in
des
moines
are
safe,
safe
from
the
des
moines
police
that
have
been
caught
on
video
time
after
time
exhibiting
deplorable
behavior.
We
need
to
get
rid
of
those
people
they're,
not
part
of
a
safety
public
safety
environment,
and
you
can't
decide
that
kids
are
more
violent
than
we
have
seen
coming
from
our
own
police
department.
Who
do
you
think
these?
AL
AR
I
want
you
to
imagine
this.
Imagine
walking
down
the
street
minding
your
own
business
and
someone
from
across
the
street
starts
hollering
at
you.
You
might
know
who
that
person
is,
but
maybe
you
don't
know
them
very
well,
but
then
and
their
little
friends.
They
come
over
and
start
taunting
you.
They
start
asking
a
bunch
of
questions
and,
like
you
did
something
wrong
right
and
then
they
start
taunting.
You
like
what
are
you
gonna
do
about
it?
You
know
fight
me
and
you
realize
that
they're,
the
ones
that
came
prepared
for
this
confrontation.
AR
How
would
you
feel
when
you
find
yourself
in
a
situation
where
somebody
suddenly
feels
very
brave,
and
you
can't
fight
back
now
think
about
jared
clinton
right?
He
was
in
his
friend's
car
on
a
nice.
It
was
a
nice
day
outside
you're
going
for
a
drive
and
they
get
pulled
over
the
first
thing.
The
female
officer
asks
says:
is
you
look
like
you
have
a
gun?
AR
AR
AR
AN
Amy
luber
she
her
pronouns
ward,
one
50310,
I'm
here
to
echo
the
voices
calling
for
a
third
party
investigation
of
dmpd.
I'm
curious
why
you
wouldn't
want
that
if
they're
not
doing
anything
wrong,
what's
the
harm?
What
are
we
hiding
same
thing
with
the
community
review
board?
We've
been
asking
for
this
since
2018.
If
there's
nothing
to
hide,
if
everything
is
going
great,
why?
Why
can't
we
have
a
community
review
board
what
it?
What
are
you
afraid
of?
AN
I
know
what
you're
afraid
of
you're
afraid
of
us
finding
out
that
chief
winger
is
exactly
who
he
is,
who
he's
been
showing
us?
He
is
and
he
should
be
fired,
so
we're
asking
for
you
to
put
on
the
next
city
council
agenda,
a
third
party
investigation,
a
community
review
board
and
firing
chief
winger
and
it's
time
to
social
leadership
when
you're
in
leadership.
Sometimes
you
have
to
take
in
new
information
and
change
your
mind
and
you
sometimes
look
like
a
dumb
ass.
AN
You
know
what
that
happens
when
you're
in
leadership
and
you
actually
care
about
the
community
that
are
representing
and
you
have
been
voted
in
to
care
about
the
community,
and
it
is
time
we
will
accept
you.
If
you
start
listening
and
making
changes,
this
could
go
a
lot
easier,
y'all.
It's
time
next.
City
council,
we're
here.
S
Tony
gardner,
ward,
3,
first
and
foremost,
mr
mayor,
thank
you
for
voting
with
us
in
opposition
to
the
oaks
on
floor.
As
a
father
of
two
young
daughters
raising
them
in
today's
society.
It
is
difficult
teaching
them
to
be
strong,
independent
and
fearless
leaders
is
hard
and
keeping
them
out
of
the
oaks
oaksand
floor
project
was
difficult,
but
they
see
the
realities
of
it.
S
They
see
the
trees
being
removed
and
the
wildlife
being
displaced,
and
they
want
to
know
why
is
daddy,
going
door
to
door
and
making
so
many
phone
calls,
and
why
is
he
up
so
late?
Sending
emails,
and
I
br-
and
I
say
this
because
linda
you
and
I
spoke
on
phone
and
we
had
a
very
good
conversation
and
you
said-
and
I
quote,
I
do
not
like
this
project
and
I
do
not
like
where
it
is
located.
S
If
I
voted
today,
I
would
vote
no.
However,
this
is
out
of
my
ward
and
with
respect
to
josh,
I
will
vote
with
him.
So,
with
your
vote
tonight
you
have
proven
to
all
females
that
even
elected
officials
can
do
a
man's
bidding
without
even
batting
an
eye
and
it's
an
unfortunate
reality.
I
understand
it
and
I
hope
and
pray
that
my
daughters
never
grow
up
learning
to
take
orders
from
a
man
and
you
proved
it
tonight.
You
took
everyone's
speech
and
opposition
of
the
oaks
on
fluids
and
said
it's
quiet
scenic.
S
It's
like
it's
a
different
area,
they're
afraid
of
the
storm
runoff
into
the
neighborhood
below,
and
people
like
this
neighborhood
zero
people
in
the
neighborhood
supported
this
and
they
have
concerns
about
the
trees
taking
down.
But
that
was
in
in
regards
to
agenda
item
15.
Your
contradictions
are
absurd.
S
G
G
G
So
I
guess
we
have
a
city
council
that
is
okay
with
that.
You
don't
think
they
did
anything
wrong.
That's
why
they.
We
have
rogue
officers
that
are
out
here
acting
the
way
they
act
because
look
at
how
y'all
act
and
what
y'all
allow
to
happen,
and
it's
not
right
because
best
believe
if
I
would
have
had
a
confrontation
with
an
officer
I'm
going
to
jail.
If
I
assault
somebody,
my
black
behind
is
going
to
jail
bottom
line,
there's
if
ends
and
buts
about
it.
AH
AJ
I
had
a
chance
to
use
our
libraries
and
I
was
able
to
read
a
book
called
the
1619
project
and
I
it
really
opened
my
eyes
to
some
things.
What
I
think
we
really
need
to
do
is
educate
people,
educate,
kids
about
the
realities
of
slavery
right
we
need
to
get
at
the
heart
of
racism.
So
why
don't
you
guys
do
something
about
that?
Can
you
can
you
have
curriculum
they
just
can
they
have?
Can
you
change
curriculum?
AJ
AJ
AJ
AJ
That's
where
our
problem
is
and
if
you're
not
doing
something
about
that,
then
you're
really
not
doing
what
you
need
to
do
and
that's
where
I
started.
I
started
at
the
candidates
forum
on
saturday
and
looked
at
the
candidates
for
the
house
because
that's
where
the
changes
have
to
come
first.
Thank
you.
AC
All
righty
abby
banks,
she
her
five
zero
three
one,
two
I'm
gonna
get
into
it.
I'm
gonna
talk
fast
because
I'm
hangry,
I
sound
like
a
broken
record,
but
we're
still
in
a
pandemic,
and
it's
irresponsible
and
reckless
for
any
institution
to
lift
their
mass
mandate
when
there
is
a
direct
relationship
between
rises
and
cases
of
covid
and
a
lack
of
mandates.
This
creates
an
extremely
unsafe
environment
for
all
community
members,
but
especially
immuno-compromised
folks.
AC
The
line
is
terrifying
and
I
don't
want
to
put
anyone
else
in
that
situation
and
you
shouldn't
either
the
lack
of
basic
public
health
precautions,
just
compounds
on
the
inaccessibility
of
city
council
meetings,
aiden,
a
community
member
and
disability
activist
who's
unable
to
attend
meetings
largely
due
to
your
lack
of
accessibility
cites
this
as
a
direct
violation
of
80
of
the
ada,
and
I
would
agree.
Furthermore,
I
uplift
the
calls
by
community
members
for
accurate,
closed
captions
transcripts
and
an
end
to
the
premature
cutting
off
of
speakers
microphone
and
camera.
AC
AC
Third,
the
des
moines
police
department
is
a
violent
and
oppressive
organization.
That's
abolition
is
integral
to
the
existence
of
safe
communities
for
all
they
should
not
be
receiving
any
funding,
but
especially
not
on
the
consent
agenda.
Where
public
comment
is
prohibited
tonight
we
saw
you
vote
for
over
470
000
in
additional
police
funding.
On
top
of
the
exorbitant
amount
of
money
they
already
get,
I'm
terrified
to
see
how
that
will
be
used
against
my
community.
AC
I've
been
attending
city
council
meetings
for
two
years
and
nothing
has
changed
yeah.
We
might
have
indira
up
there
who
actually
tries
to
represent
us,
but
your
disregard
for
basic
human
rights
and
complete
lack
of
human
decency
or
compassion
remains
a
strong
pillar
of
white
supremacy
and
violence
that
will
be
a
horrifying
chapter
in
the
history
books
of
des
moines.
Thank
you.
AK
Michael
mccutchen
word:
three:
five:
zero:
three:
zero:
nine!
I'm
going
to
kind
of
talk
about
something
a
little
bit
different,
but
I
just
want
to
say
I
hope
all
of
you
dmpd
should
not
not
be
getting
raises
in
funding
or
be
funded
at
all,
and
there
should
be
some
accountability
happening,
but
I'm
going
to
talk
about
mid-american
energy
instead
for
a
few
minutes
here,
mid-american
energy
is
the
biggest
carbon
polluter
in
our
state
and
has
publicly
stated
they
will
continue
to
burn
coal
until
2049.
AK
AK
Can
you
imagine
how
the
youth
feel
growing
up,
knowing
that
things
will
only
get
worse
if
we
continue
down
this
path
to
protect
our
minds,
our
bodies,
our
children
and
our
planet?
We
must
start
retiring
coal
plants
today
to
create
a
future
that
is
not
only
livable
but
joyful
to
be
a
part
of
des
moines
city
council
must
refuse
to
sign
a
franchise
agreement
with
mid-american
until
they
commit
to
retire
their
five
coal
plants
in
iowa
by
2030
for
the
good
of
our
health,
our
city
and
our
community.
Thank
you.
O
AS
On
courageous
fire,
my
legal
substitute
zip
code
is
50304
because
I'm
not
finished
with
my
absentee
ballot
stuff.
I
have
no
idea
what
ward
I'm
in
and
the
reason
why
I'm
telling
you
this
is
because
I
went
through
a
lot
of
trouble
to
try
to
be
safe.
I'm
a
domestic
violence
survivor,
so
I
use
iowa,
safe
and
home
address
and
with
all
of
the
trouble
I've
gone
through
as
a
black
woman,
raising
two
black
girls
to
try
to
keep
us
safe.
AS
Now,
I'm
a
single
mom
and
at
home
I
am
safe
because
of
what
I've
done
through
iowa
safe
at
home.
The
abuser
can't
just
roll
up
on
me
because
he
doesn't
know
where
we
live,
but
as
soon
as
I
leave
my
house
go
to
the
store
drive,
my
car
check
out
a
library
book.
Now
I'm
worried
about.
What's
going
to
happen
to
me
and
where
will
my
kids
go?
AS
AS
My
girls
worry
when
I'm
gone.
I
check
in
with
my
15
and
16
year
old
kids,
because
they're
terrified
what
happens
if
mom
doesn't
come
home
when
we're
talking
about
making
sure
that
people
are
being
investigated,
that
need
to
be
by
something
that
is
a
third
party
so
that
we
know
it's
impartial
and
unbiased.