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From YouTube: 1-10-22 City Council
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Des Moines City Council meeting on Monday, January 10, 2022.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/councilmeetings
A
All
right,
prior
to
the
beginning
of
our
meeting
today,
we've
got
some
electeds
that
just
went
through
an
election
and
we're
going
to
swear
them
in
and
so
without.
Further
ado,
I'd
like
to
first
bring
up
josh
and
connie,
and
I'm
going
to
swear
them
in
together
at
first
and
then
I'm
going
to
turn
over
indira
and
she
and
her
sister
can
come
up
and
do
that
all
right.
B
G
E
E
E
E
G
E
H
A
A
Now,
therefore,
I,
the
mayor
of
the
city
of
des
moines,
on
behalf
of
our
city
council
and
the
residents
of
des
moines,
who
hereby
proclaim
the
month
of
january
2022,
is
human
trafficking,
prevention
and
awareness
and
awareness
month
and
encourage
everyone
to
become
more
informed
on
this
growing
problem
to
be
vigilant
and
report
suspicious
activity
and
to
work
towards
solutions
to
end
human
trafficking
in
all
of
its
forms.
If
you
see
something
that
does
not
look
right,
take
action
and
call
law
enforcement
or
the
national
human
trafficking
hotline
at
1-888-373-7888.
A
If
you
guys
will
stay
up
here,
we're
going
to
take
a
quick
photo,
I
think
yeah.
H
A
A
A
The
requirement
applies
to
both
staff
and
visiting
public
and
includes
attendance
at
council
meetings.
If
you
do
not
have
a
face
covering
one
will
be
provided
to
you.
The
public
is
hereby
notified
that
the
city
council
will
not
tolerate
disruption
of
our
business
meeting
and
persons
wishing
to
attend.
This
meeting
are
reminded
of
the
following.
A
Everyone
meeting
attendance
has
first
amendment
rights
and
any
disruptive
conduct
by
one
person
or
a
group
impinges
on
the
rights
of
others
present.
So
disruptive
conduct
will
not
be
tolerated
if
the
person
is
disrupted
and
is
being
disrupted.
The
public
speaking
portion
of
the
meeting
may
be
moved
to
the
next
in-person
meeting,
which
is
not
disrupted.
A
It's
five
o'clock,
so
let's
begin
our
meeting
and
I
will
ask
the
clerk
to
please
take
roll.
H
A
H
A
Our
first
item
on
the
agenda
is
at
the
first
meeting
of
the
year
we
generally
reappoint
our
city
manager,
our
city
attorney,
the
city
clerk,
the
chief
deputy
city
clerk
and
deputy
clerk
and
e,
the
chief
deputy
city
attorney,
deputy
city
attorneys
and
assistant
attorneys.
K
E
Yeah,
I
would
request
that
we
withdraw
that
motion
and
consider
each
separately.
A
Okay,
so
I
will
ask
everybody
to
vote.
A
A
A
Okay
item
two's
approving
the
agenda
as
presented
and
or
as
amended.
I
will
say
that
on
the
consent
items
which
tonight
are
three
through
forty
43,
that
4s
has
been
withdrawn
as
the
inspections
are
incomplete
and
that
is
a
inspection
for
licenses
and
permits
other
than
that.
A
The
agenda
is,
as
it
is
presented.
A
Any
opposition
hearing
none
item
passes
item
three
tonight
is
the
approving
the
consent
agenda
tonight.
That's
item
3
through
43.
generally.
These
are
routine
items
and
will
be
enacted
by
one
vote
without
separate
discussion.
Unless
someone
council,
member
or
a
member
of
the
public
request
an
item
to
be
removed
to
be
considered
separately
this
evening
item
five,
I
will
vote
no
council.
Member
shoemaker
wishes
to
speak
on
26
34,
38,
39
and
43.
A
A
E
A
Okay,
so
the
question
here
is
26,
38
and
39
are
the
ones
that
are
requested.
We've
got
a
motion
to
pass
it
with
the
ones
that
member
shoemaker
has
pulled.
L
Mayor,
can
you
clarify
the
vote
for
me?
Are
we
voting
to
allow
public
speaking?
Are
we
voting
to
just
allow
council
member
schumacher
to
to
speak
we're.
A
E
A
E
G
A
E
C
C
C
A
Okay,
there's
a
motion
to
allow
additional
input
public
on
26,
38
and
39,
as
requested
by
a
speaker,
cannot
let
up
yet
ask.
A
A
Again
before
the
hearing
items
for
the
hearings
of
seating
this
evening,
we've
got
two
zoning
items:
45
and
46.
We've
also
one
lease
hearing
and
one
public
improvement
hearing
as
a
reminder
for
the
zoning
items
only
which
are
45
and
46.
We
will
hear
from
the
parties
in
interest
first
and
then
from
the
general
public.
The
parties
in
interest
for
the
zoning
items
only
include
only
the
applicant
for
the
rezoning
and
those
people
living
within
250
feet
of
the
property
to
be
re-zoned,
to
whom
the
city
has
sent
notices.
A
Anyone
who
approaches
the
mic
before
their
time
will
be
compared
to
the
mailing
list
and,
if
you're
not
on
the
list,
you'll
be
considered,
disruptive
and
will
not
be
recognized
for
the
remainder
of
the
meeting
and
will
be
required
to
leave
the
building.
So
please
please
wait
until
I
call
on
the
general
public
for
the
zoning
items
or
you
will
be
won't,
be
called
on
for
the
remaining
leader
meeting
and
required
to
leave
the
building.
A
After
all,
the
parties
in
interest
have
been
called
upon.
The
general
public
comment
yet
not
to
exceed
one
minute
per
person
to
maximum
of
seven
minutes
will
be
called
upon
for
germaine
public
comment
unless
the
hearing
is
ended
sooner
for
failure
to
make
germaine
public
comments
for
all
the
other
items.
This
evening,
any
interested
person
may
make
germaine
comments
and
not
to
exceed
one
minute
per
person
to
a
maximum
of
five
minutes
per
hearing,
unless
the
hearing
is
ended
sooner
for
a
failure
to
make
germaine
comments
or
when
the
comments
cease.
A
As
a
reminder
on
the
public
improvement
hearings,
only
comments
as
to
the
plans,
the
specifications,
form
of
documents
and
the
engineer's
estimate
and
the
lowest
bidder
designation
will
be
considered.
Germaine
and
all
other
comments
will
be
considered
non-germane
unless
the
hearing
is
ended
sooner
for
failure
to
make
the
germain
public
comments.
A
item
44.
Our
first
hearing
item
is
regarding
items
related
to
emc
lease
agreement
as
follows:
a
is
a
public
hearing
on
the
proposition
to
authorize
a
lease
with
the
employers,
mutual
casualty
insurance
company
emc
for
the
lease
of
real
estate
and
park,
improvements
at
the
location
of
701
walnut
street
for
use
by
the
parks
and
recreation
department.
A
A
If
not,
let's
open
it
up
and
ask
if
there's
any
jermaine
comments
from
the
general
public
regarding
dmc
lease
to
improve
that
sorry.
A
It
over
to
the
our
recreation
department
do.
A
P
Still
have
the
timer
on
it:
yeah
yeah,
that
was
a
joke.
Taylor,
webber,
ward
three,
is
that
it
is
that
all
the
info.
So
I
love
that
we're
gonna
be
having
a
park
downtown.
That's
awesome!
We
really
need
more
green
space
downtown.
I
do
have
a
little
bit
of
concern
with
you
know.
P
Public
private
partnerships
are
always
really
tricky
in
these
sort
of
situations,
so
making
sure
we're
paying
rent
looks
like
for
10
years
that
we're
already
figuring
out
and
then
we're
paying
like
25
000
of
upkeep
every
year
and
then
emc's
covering
the
rest.
They
get
like
naming
rights
and
a
bunch
of
other
stuff.
For
that
it
seems
like
we
could
maybe
get
a
little
less
yearly
budget
going
towards
those
items.
The
other
thing
that's
a
little
bit
concerning.
Is
they
get
to
provide
additional
security
in
our
parks
as
they
want?
P
I
know
that's
something
that
we
we
use
as
talking
points
a
lot
of
of
crime
and
stuff
like
that
downtown,
but,
like
this
is
a
park
a
place
for
families
for
kids
and
stuff,
like
that
and
talking
about
how
we're
going
to
increase
security
in
these
areas,
especially
allowing
a
private
corporation
to
decide
what
level
of
security
we
want
in
a
park.
I
think,
is
a
really
bad
move.
Q
Hello,
okay,
denver
award
three
yeah,
I
do
have
a
concern
with
them
providing
their
own
security.
I
understand
that
the
city's
like,
oh,
we
have
city
parks,
so
we
provide
our
own,
but
if
emc
is
providing
additional
security,
what
are
they
protecting
people
from?
Are
they
protecting
people
from
from
houseless
folks,
because
I
feel,
like
the
city
could
address
that
without
doing
security
with
without
doing
like
number
26
with
the
architecture
that
is
anti-homeless?
Obviously.
Q
R
Hello:
hey:
what's
up
this
is
I'm
jalen.
I
live
in
ward,
3.
yeah.
I
just
want
to
echo
the
previous
comments
that
have
been
made,
especially
about
the
security.
I
think
that
that's
concerning,
but
I
know
that
you
know
the
des
moines
police
department
is
also
not
a
a
great
option
to
be
just
around
people
in
general.
I
do
have
a
question,
though,
about
like
accommodations
that
are
going
to
be
built
at
the
park.
R
Are
there
plans
to
build
public
restrooms
at
the
park,
because
I
do
know
that,
like
this
location,
especially
there's
a
need
for
public
restrooms
downtown,
especially
with
houses,
folks
and
other
folks
who
are
just
down
there,
so
wondering
if
that's
something
that's
planned
to
be
included,
and
if
not,
I
think
it
definitely
should
be
planned.
Thanks.
E
All
right
so
for
this
item,
I
am
glad
that
emc
is
wanting
to
invest
in
a
park
in
downtown.
I
think
that's
a
good
idea.
I
have
a
really
serious
problem
with
them
providing
additional
security,
especially
since
this
is
going
to
be
a
city
park.
E
I
don't
see
the
need
for
private
security.
I
think
private
security
is
a
really
dangerous
standard
to
set
there's
no
like
potential
of
a
public
accountability
process
with
a
private
security
force,
and
so
anything
that
happened
there
would
be
you
know
under
the
purview
of
like
a
business,
so
I
would
want
to
take
that
out
to
be
able
to
vote
yes
on
this.
I
want
to
uplift
the
point
about
a
public
restroom.
I
think
that
that
was
a
really
good
idea.
E
I
think
that
a
big
question
I
had
in
general
was
just:
are
the
plans
already
made
for
the
park?
Do
we
get
to
see
them
and
do
we
get
to
approve
them,
or
is
that
completely
through
emc?
Do
they
get
to
make
their
own
plans,
and
I
also
had
concerns
about
anti-homeless
architecture,
specifically
on
benches,
in
this
park?
E
H
A
B
Mike,
I
know
he's
probably
watching
and
if
he
wants
to
come
answer
some
of
those
questions,
but
I
was
gonna
move
this
particular
item
44a
and
b.
B
I
appreciate
the
work
that
emc
has
done
in
this
case.
This
is
private
property
that
they
do
not
plan
on
developing
and
rather
than
let
sit
and
have
no
use
or
utilization
they've
chosen
to
partner
with
us
and
to
provide
and
donate
the
park
materials
and
build
the
park.
B
The
arrangements
that
we've
seen,
I
think,
to
the
point
on
the
lease
payment.
They
are
going
to
be
continuing
to
pay
property
taxes
on
the
land.
The
lease
payment
reflects
what
the
city
is
getting
in
property
tax
value,
which
is
unusual
to
have
a
park
where
you
get
property
tax
on
it.
So
that
was,
I
believe,
that
specific
negotiated
term
overall.
This
is
a
very
high
value
project.
For
us
we
are
contributing
maintenance
dollars
and
cap
maintenance
dollars.
At
that
I
have
also
asked
about
the
restroom
facilities.
B
My
understanding
is
that
there
are
not
restroom
facilities
here.
The
point
is
well
taken
that
we
do
need
to
think
about
restroom
facilities
in
the
downtown
area
and
council
member
shoemaker.
We
might
have
an
opportunity
to
do
some
of
that
with
our
work
on
the
homeless,
coordinating
council.
I
was
talking
with
angie
arthur
earlier
today
about
about
that
and
the
folks
at
homeward
and
the
coordinating
council
are
thinking
about
some
of
those
issues.
So
I
think
there
will
be
opportunities
outside
of
this
particular
proposal
to
think
about
the
restroom
issue
in
particular.
B
I
There
you
go.
Thank
you
better
county
members
of
the
des
moines
city
council,
I'm
ben
page,
director
of
parks
and
recreation.
I
heard
a
couple
comments,
but
there
is
a
little
delay,
so
I
was
walking
through
so
I'll.
Try
to
get
sure
all
the
different
questions.
If
I
missed
one
just
please
ask
me
to
remind
me
on
security.
This
park
will
be
provided
through
des
moines
police
department,
security,
normal
to
all
our
parks.
I
What
normal
for
us
is
in
our
parks
department
is,
we
don't
have
the
police
come
through
unless
there's
been
some
type
of
request
or
neighborhood
request,
and
so
emc
does
have
the
ability
to
provide
additional
security
of
the
grounds,
but
they
have
to
enforce
only
chapter
74.
The
ordinance
sections
applies
to
parks,
so
they
can't
write
tickets.
They
have
to
call
the
des
moines
police
department
if
they
have
an
incident
and
they
have
to
report
all
incidents
to
the
des
moines
police
department.
The
thought
there
is
that
way.
We
have
a
record.
I
So
that's
the
security.
There
is
no
restroom
plans
are
at
this
one.
It's
a
small
section
of
land.
The
council
knows
this.
For
the
last
10
years
we've
been
working
on
restrooms,
we
wrote
a
restroom
policy,
you
all
approved
they're,
just
pretty
expensive,
as
we
all
know,
but
there
is
no
budget
for
restrooms
right
now.
In
this
plan
the
park
has
been
designed.
I
D
Right,
I
think
we
never
mind.
I
just
say
it's
going
to
be
such
an
improvement
compared
to
what
is
there
right
now
most
of
my
career
life
at
that
corner,
it's
nice
to
see
it
be
turned
into
something
positive.
E
I
Thank
you.
That's
a
great
question.
It's
still
on
right,
good,
all
right,
chapter
74
has
the
all
the
different
rules
there's
a
lot
in
there.
It's
on
our
website.
We
also
put
the
rules
of
the
park
system
on
our
website.
That
way,
anybody
can
see
it
very
transparently.
So,
for
example,
you
know
like
they'll
shall
not
run
at
a
pool
all
those
fun
rules.
No
glass
containers
and
parks
for
safety
hours
of
operation
are
in
there
too,
so
we're
open
from
6am
to
10
p.m.
In
parks.
This
is
a
neighborhood
park.
I
E
So
I
guess
just
my
only
question
is
that,
like
you
say,
police
don't
go
to
parks
unless
they
are
called
on
a
complaint,
but
the
private
security
would
be
able
to
patrol
the
park
whenever
and
say
like
arrest,
somebody
for
having
a
plastic
bottle
or
a
paper.
A
glass
bottle,
excuse
me
or
like
what
would
their
enforcement
mechanisms.
I
They
could
only
educate,
there's
no
real
ticket
writing
ability
with
emc
when
it
comes
to
enforcement
of
the
park
rules.
Their
job
is
to
report
and
help
in
the
event
that
they're
needed
to
help
there,
but
then
call
the
des
moines
police
department
for
anything
that
would
be
more
of
a
infraction
of
the
rule
that
would
result
in
some
sort
of
ticket
or
beyond.
E
E
I
also
want
to
comment
on
the
fact
that,
like
I
appreciate
that
we're
looking
into
getting
more
bathrooms,
but
having
heard
that
we
don't
have
anything
in
the
budget
for
that,
this
would
be
a
wonderful
place
to
do
that,
because
we're
it's
private
money
and
they
could,
you
know
very
easily,
put
in
a
bathroom
and
then
we
could
maybe
even
lease
for
like
another
few
hundred
dollars
or,
however
much
it
would
to
make
that
up.
E
I'm
not
sure
how
much
it
would
be,
but
it
seems
like
if
we
don't
have
the
capacity
to
do
that.
This
would
be
the
place
to
do
it,
especially
to
make
it
less.
You
know
I'm
worried
about
private
security,
essentially
harassing
people
who
live
downtown
on
house
on
a
sheltered.
A
A
Item
45:
it's
on
the
request
from
the
employers
mutual
casualty
company
to
amend
the
plan
dsm
creating
our
tomorrow
future
land
use,
designation
of
701
walnut
street
from
downtown
mixed
use
to
park
open
space
and
to
rezone
the
property
from
dx1
downtown
district
to
p2,
public,
civic
and
institutional
district.
To
allow
the
development
of
a
public
recreation
area
use
a
is
the
first
consideration.
The
ordinance
above
and
b
is
the
final
consideration
of
the
ordinance
above
the
waivers
requested
by
cindy
mccauley
as
the
vice
president
administrative
services
at
emc.
A
This
would
require
six
votes,
we'll
ask
first
parties
in
interest
that
would
be
in
this
case
either
emc
or
property
owners
within
250
feet
of
the
property
to
be
rezoned
and
we're
going
to
give
them
up
to
five
minutes
to
speak,
and
second,
we'll
have
germain
comments
from
the
general
public,
one
minute
per
person
to
speak
and
seven
minutes
maximum.
So
let's
ask:
are
there
any
parties
of
interest
here.
N
N
Of
this
vacant
parcel
for
development
of
the
park,
the
agreement
that
was
just
voted
on
is
contingent
upon
the
rezoning
being
successful.
Otherwise
that
agreement
that
was
just
voted
on
is
is
null
and
void.
It
is
necessary.
We
cannot
conduct
our
or
develop
the
park,
as
is
under
the
current
zoning.
I
think
this
is
a
wonderful
opportunity
for
a
partnership
between
emc
and
the
city
and
to
provide
an
amenity
that
currently
is
not
anywhere
in
the
downtown
area.
N
N
I
do
with
regard
to
the
guards
being
armed,
they
are
not.
The
idea
with
additional
security
is
actually
supplemental
to.
E
Will
your
security
team
be
trained
in
emergency
medical
services?
They
are?
They
are
okay?
Yes,
so
will
there
be
interaction
with
anyone
in
the
park
beyond
watching
calling
the
police
or
coming
down
for
a
medical
emergency?
Only.
N
If
necessary,
and
if
that
that
would
be,
if
necessary,
to
defuse
a
situation
or
if
someone
is
in
danger,
there
certainly
could
be
that
that
possibility
do.
N
E
If
the
possibility
is
not
made
to
put
a
bathroom
in
would
like
this
is
within
buildings
like
it's
near
buildings,
correct.
E
N
P
Taylor,
webber
ward,
three
same
thing,
so
we
might
as
well
keep
talking
on
it
right.
One
thing
that
I
find
really
interesting
is
now
we're
on
rezoning
and
I
think
what
we
heard
from
emc
just
now
is
that,
like
this
park
is
contingent
on
us
rezoning
this
and
if
you
don't
do
it
you're
not
going
to
have
a
park
and
that's
really
cool
except
now
we're
allowing
corporations
special
access
to
say,
hey,
I
need
things,
rezoned
scratch,
my
back.
P
You
scratch
yours
when
council
and
the
city
has
a
consistent
issue
of
helping
other
community
resources,
get
rezoned
to
make
sure
they
don't
experience
the
same
issues
as
multi-million
dollar
corporations
do
so
things
like
community
fridges,
urban
farms,
houses,
people
being
in
city
parks
and
and
that
sort
of
stuff
those
could
all
be
solved
by
addressing
zoning
concerns
that
we're
doing
here
for
emc.
For
a
part,
great,
I
think
parks
are
awesome,
but
we're
still
doing
it
for
a
corporation.
P
Q
Oh
hello,
denver
award
three,
so
they
say
that
there's
places
around
you
know
to
use
the
bathroom
is
that
businesses,
because
I
literally
just
went
on
my
phone
and
googled
public
restrooms
and
it
shows
none
downtown.
The
nearest
one
is
gray's
lake,
and
so
are
you
saying
that
if
I
have
to
go
to
the
bathroom
at
this
new
park,
I
have
to
go
all
the
way
to
gray's
lake
because
some
places,
especially
if
I
look
disheveled,
if
I
am
houseless
they
will
not
let
me
into
their
business.
F
So
true,
peyton
shoemaker
ward,
one.
I
would
just
like
to
say.
I
want
to
point
out
that
what
the
representative
from
emc
just
said
is
that
when
they
were
drafting
the
plans
for
the
park,
they
were
told
that
they
didn't
need
to
have
a
bathroom,
and
now
you
guys
are
saying
like
we
would
have
put
a
bathroom
in
if
we
could
have,
but
clearly
there
was
an
opportunity
to
talk
about
it
before
and
you
guys
just
didn't.
F
F
If
you
just
have
someone
always
watching
over
the
park,
you
know
to
help
people
if
there's
a
medical
emergency,
but
I
don't
think
it's
as
great
of
a
thing
to
just
always
have
someone
watching
the
park
and
that
person
be
the
judgment
of
if
it's
necessary,
to
call
the
police
and
we
don't
know
what
biases
that
person
has
or
anything
like
that.
So
I
think
it's
really
concerning-
and
I
just
want
to
bring
that
to
your
attention
also.
G
R
Hello,
okay,
jalen
ward,
three
just
want
to
uplift
again
the
comments
that
have
been
made
previously,
especially
what
peyton
was
just
saying,
because
you
know
I
was
thinking
about
these
security
guards
in
my
head,
I'm
like
okay,
they're,
just
going
to
sit
out
and
watch
the
park
all
day
and
decide
who
to
call
the
cops
on
and
who
not
to
call
the
cops
on
sounds
like
you
know,
professional
racial
profilers,
so
yeah,
that's
I
I
think
it's
a
problem
and
I
think
it's
concerning
and
also
again
want
to
just
uplift
the
need
for
a
restroom.
R
I
think
that
it
is
necessary
just
because
maybe
city
code
says
like
a
park.
That's
this
small
doesn't
need
to
have
a
public
restroom.
I
don't
think
that
that
means
that
there's
not
a
need
for
the
public
restroom.
I
think
that
there
are
tons
of
people
who
live
downtown,
especially
on
house
folks
who
do
need
a
public
restroom,
and
we
know
that
there
are
none
downtown.
R
So,
if
we're
going
to
be
putting
money
in
to
make
this
park
make
a
space
for
everyone
a
space
for
the
community,
we
should
be
sure
that
there's
resources
there
for
the
community,
like
a
public
restroom.
I
think
that's
something
that
should
be
non-negotiable
when
we're
talking
about
rezoning
this
when
we're
talking
about
building
this
park,
thanks.
T
Bridget
peterson
award
two.
She
hers
everything
everyone
said
so
far.
I
would
like
to
uplift.
I
know
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
houseless
folks,
but
I
keep
thinking
about
how
I
used
to
teach
preschool
down
at
the
science
center
and
we
would
frequently
walk
to
the
place
where
the
fountain
is
over
by
the
civic
center.
We
would
walk
to
various
spots
downtown
and
I'm
imagining
none
of
you
have
ever
had
to
deal
with
24
year
olds
at
once,
but
they
all
go
to
the
bathroom
pretty
frequently.
T
So
aside
from
like
adults
who
might
use
the
park,
you
know
kids
got
to
go
to
the
bathroom
like
once
every
two
hours.
So
that's
you
know
something
you
might
have
glossed
over.
U
Abby
banks,
she
her
ward,
three
reiterating
what
everyone
else
has
said.
I
think
it's
great
that
we're
having
more
green
space
having
more
park
space
for
our
community,
and
I
think
it's
great-
that
a
big
corporation
wants
to
provide
that
help.
But
I
think,
in
order
to
not
just
be
accepting
crumbs
from
these
corporations,
we
need
to
make
sure
these
parks
actually
serve
the
purpose
of
the
people
of
des
moines
and
then
meet
the
needs
of
the
people
of
des
moines
and
not
serve
as
like
a
self-satisfying
pat
on
the
back
for
emc.
O
Hi
john
noble
ward
one.
I
really
want
us
to
think
about
the
definition
of
public
here,
because
we've
talked
about
this
as
a
as
a
public
space,
but
to
the
to
the
points
that
were
made
about
racial
profiling
if
you're
a
black
person
in
this
park,
is
this
a
public
space
for
you?
If
you
have
the
fear
of
being
racially
profiled
by
someone
on
this
private
security
team
or
by
dmt
dmpd,
if
you're
a
houseless
person
for
the
same
reason
or
for
similar
reasons,
is
this
a
public
space
for
you?
O
Is
this
a
safe
space
for
you?
If
you
need
to
use
the
restroom?
Is
this
a
public
space
for
you?
I
run
down,
I
run
in
downtown,
sometimes
if
I'm
running
by
this
park.
Is
this
a
public
space
for
me
where
I
could
stop
on
my
run
and
hang
out
if
I
need
to
use
the
restroom
to
go
back
to
the
point
that
councilmember
shoemaker
made
about
anti-homeless
architecture,
if
that's
something
that's
going
to
be
in
this
park,
is
that
a
public
space?
O
V
Jolene
prescott,
ward
2.,
so
I
am
a
person
that
needs
a
place
to
sit.
You
know,
I
can
only
stand
for
so
long,
so
if
we
have
a
homeless
person
laying
on
the
bench,
what
do
what?
No?
What
do
I
do?
What
do
I
do,
but
that
our
parks
are
not
a
homeless
shelter?
V
A
V
So
I
need
a
place
to
sit
and
I
have
a
homeless
person
taking
up
a
whole
bench,
but
I,
but
I
have
disabilities
that
I
need
to
sit.
What
do
I
do?
That's
why
they
have
that
kind
of
thing
going
on?
Okay,
that's
why
we
need
those
those
little
ridges
in
there,
because
I
want
a
place
to
sit
down,
go
ahead
and
laugh
when
you're
my
age
and
have
trouble
with
your
knees.
You'll
feel
differently.
V
E
W
All
right,
I
don't
really
notice
it
in
previous
week
or
other
than
if
you
don't
want
people
to
talk
to
you.
Maybe
don't
look
at
them
and
direct
your
comments
to
them.
That
was
pretty
weird
to
react
badly
to
people
you're
talking
to
reacting
to
what
you're
saying
that's,
how
conversations
work,
we're
gonna
ask
you
to
talk
about
now
for
the
record,
but
the
points
that
I
have
are
that
we're
rezoning
it's
kind
of
weird
because
we're
putting
a
public
zone,
but
it
is
a
private
spot
that
we're
renting.
I
think
that's
weird.
W
It's
also
alarming
to
me
that
emc
is
going
above
and
beyond
to
say:
hey,
we
know
how
much
security
you're
providing
we
ought
to
provide
more,
why
you
don't
have
the
same
attitude
for
bathrooms
and
other
resources
if
they're
willing
to
do
things
that
they're
required
to
do.
Why
is
it
policing
but
not
bathrooms?
W
That's
all.
Thank
you.
B
I
think
you
have
to
be
recognized
as
a
speaker.
Okay,
thank
you.
I
am
happy
to
have
consideration
of
45a
and
then
I'll
move
45b
separately,
I'm
happy
to
move
45a.
I
appreciate,
like
I
said
before
the
work
that
emc
emc
has
done
in
coming
to
the
table
and
being
a
partner.
B
I
I
certainly
think
we
can
continue
to
have
conversation
about
the
restrooms
at
the
other
facilities
that
we
have
added
them,
they're,
a
very
expensive
item
in
the
restrooms,
which
is
why
we
do
not
have
them
at
more
parks.
We're
working
through
that.
B
It
can
be,
I
think,
three,
four
hundred
thousand
half
a
million
dollars
for
restroom
facilities
and
then
there
is
limited
space
in
this
particular
facility.
I'm
committed
to
working
on
that
issue
more
broadly
in
the
downtown.
But
I
appreciate
the
comments
and
I'm
happy
to
move
item
45
and
45a
and
then,
after
that
we
can
have.
A
E
Thank
you.
I
want
to
clarify
that
I
am
very
supportive
of
this
project.
I
want
to
see
it
succeed.
I
would
be
happy
to
have
more
conversations
about
the
security
issue
and
about
the
bathroom
issue,
and
it
seems
like
emc,
is
open
to
having
those
conversations,
so
I
would
request
that
we
do
past
45a,
but
that
we
consider
not
passing
45b
so
that
we
do
have
the
opportunity
to
have
those
further
conversations.
L
Your
honor
I'll
vote,
yes
and
just
like
to
thank
emc
for
their
commitment
and
and
their
investment
in
in
this
park,
for
all
for
everyone
to
be
able
to
use
downtown.
I
I
think
it's
going
to
be
a
great
asset.
We've
talked
about
bathrooms
for
years
and,
as
josh
pointed
out
very,
very
expensive,
to
put
faster
rooms
and
that's
why
we're
going
to
continue
to
work
through.
I
believe
the
list
that
we
already
have
of
bathrooms
and
trying
to
get
them
in.
A
A
A
A
X
Good,
I'm
michelle
della
riva
and
I'm
the
executive
director
at
prelude,
behavioral
services,
and
I
do
want
to
thank
you
for
considering
our
rezoning
this
evening.
X
X
A
regional
facility
was
opened
in
des
moines
in
the
year
2000
and
then
satellite
locations
were
added
to
provide
access
to
services
throughout
central
and
eastern
iowa.
The
bernie
lorenz
recovery
house
was,
which
is
located
at
4014,
kingman
boulevard
or
cayman
avenue
became
a
program
of
mecca
in
2007..
X
The
program
provides
services
specifically
for
women
that
are
suffering
from
substance.
Use
disorders
on
february,
1st
in
2015
mecca,
officially
changed
its
name
to
prelude,
behavioral
services
and
the
name
prelude
was
chosen
because
it
means
it
reflects
our
mission
of
opening
doors
to
new
beginnings.
X
Private
provides
a
full
continuum
of
substance,
use
services
to
iowans,
including
prevention
and
early
intervention,
evaluations,
detoxification
outpatient
and
residential
treatment
programs,
halfway
house
and
transitional
housing
and
case
management.
X
X
We
are
committed
to
serving
hard
to
reach
and
disenfranchised
populations
and
to
breaking
down
barriers
to
hinder
that
hinder
access
to
behavioral
health
services.
So
the
first
step
in
our
project
is
really
focused
on
expanding
our
outpatient
services
program
at
3451
easton
boulevard,
the
expansion
expansion
is
really
in
response
to
the
ongoing
covet
19
pandemic.
X
X
The
expansion
really
would
be
looking
at
adding
additional
group
rooms,
as
well
as
individual
offices
for
additional
staff
members.
The
second
step
in
our
expansion,
which
is
a
little
further
out,
would
be
to
move
our
adult
residential
program
to
the
central
campus.
Our
adult
residential
program
currently
is
at
3806
easton
boulevard.
X
Additionally,
we'll
be
doing
a
feasibility
study
to
look
at
adding
detox
services
here
in
des
moines,
as
well
as
potential
adolescent
residential
programming
and
a
sobering
center.
So
that
is
something
that
we
certainly
want
to
look
at
to
see,
if
that's
something
that
the
city
would
be
benefiting
from.
K
H
J
X
L
Honor,
can
I
can
I
ask
a
question
for
michelle.
Yes,
michelle,
thank
you
so
much
and-
and
I
appreciate
the
effort
that
you're
putting
towards
I
I'm
definitely
in
favor
of
this.
I
did
have
one
question
in
one
request
that
I
had
passed
on
to
council
member
westerguard
and
I'm
not
sure
if
it
ever
got
taken
care
of.
You
have
two
schools
very
close
proximity
to
where
you're
putting
this
at.
N
L
X
I
did
not
receive
any
requests
from
any
area
schools.
What
I
can
tell
on
this
council
is
that
our
residential
program,
which
I
think
sometimes
that's
what
schools
are
most
interested
in-
is
two
blocks
away
from
the
campus
currently,
so
we
don't
expect
that
there
will
be
more
traffic,
we
don't
expect
to
have
more
residential
programs
other
than
the
addition
of
detox.
So
currently,
our
residential
program
has
28
beds
for
men
and
16
beds
for
women.
L
L
They
were
concerned
because
they
just
didn't
know
anything
about
it,
and
so
I
I
thought
there
was
some
type
of
meeting
that
was
going
to
be
set
up
before
you
were
before
you
came
in
in
front
of
us,
and
I
I'd
like
for
you
to
do
that.
Maybe
before
we
vote
on
the
final
consideration,
because
I
think
you
know.
G
L
Two
elementary
high
school
schools
that
are
very
close
proximity.
I
I
think
they
just
wanted
to
hear
what
you're
going
to
do,
and
you
know
I
don't
see
any
perceived
problems.
I
I
think
they
would
be
very
supportive
and
and
possibly
be
able
to
partner
with
you,
but
they
should
have
an
opportunity
to
at
least
hear
from
you
and-
and
I
was
hoping
that
would
get
done
before
you
came
in
front
of
us.
L
Yeah,
I
I
think,
linda,
I
gave
you
two
two
names
of
the
principals
and
it's
it's
unfortunate
that
they
were
contacted
before
before
tonight,
but.
K
L
I
think
it's
important
that
we
have
these
throughout
the
city,
but
they
they
have
a
right
to
sit
down
with
you
and
have
a
discussion
with
you.
L
G
E
X
I
think
that
I
do
not
have
the
I
don't
have
the
answer
for
you.
I
apologize
for
that.
It's
okay,
I
think
the
property
is
still
owned
under
mecca's
name,
I
don't
think
we've
updated.
The
ownership
would
be
my
guess.
I've
been
the
director
for
nine
months.
So
I'll
write
that
down,
though
no.
E
I'm
just
curious,
but
another
point
of
clarification
you
I
is
this
that
you're
expanding
the
central
campus
that
you
were
referring
to
and
then
there
was
another
campus
that
would
be
relocated
here.
Eventually.
X
Correct
so
our
step
one
right
now
we
have
an
outpatient
clinic
at
3451..
We
really
want
to
expand
our
outpatient
clinic.
What
we
have
found
is
there's,
just
there
are
people
that
are
drinking
and
using
that
never
have
drank
or
used
before
the
pandemic.
Really,
if
you
look
at
liquor
sales
things
like
that
people
are
drinking
just
anxiety
and
social
isolation
is
making
that
just
astronomical.
X
Our
second
phase,
which
may
be
quite
a
bit
down
the
road,
is
really
to
move
our
current
residential
program
to
this
campus.
I.
X
I
don't
know
if
you
guys
have
the
plans,
if
you
guys
were
able
to
see
that
this
particular
campus,
we
own
nearly
eight
acres,
so
it
really
will
be
a
beautiful
area
for
folks
coming
in
for
substance,
use
mental
health
and
gambling
treatment.
You
know
I
feel
that
people
with
chronic
conditions,
such
as
substance,
use
mental
illness,
diabetes,
heart
disease,
deserve
to
come
into
a
program
that
is
welcoming
and
and
and
inviting
and
that's
what
we're
looking
for.
A
A
All
right
now,
let's
general
public,
come
ahead.
S
S
Okay,
natalie
harwood
ward,
one.
I
want
to
express
support
for
the
prelude
plan.
This
is
really
close
to
my
heart
and
has
impacted
my
life
a
lot
over
the
last
year
and
the
life
of
my
family,
and
we
don't
have
nearly
enough.
Y
Hey
my
name
is
luke
bascom,
ward,
1.
yeah.
I
think
this
is
a
great
project
sounds
like
this
could
really
serve
our
community.
I
want
to
quickly
respond
just
to
joe
gatto's
point.
Y
Y
We
shouldn't
be
thinking
about
folks
who
have
addiction
issues
as
people
that
potentially
we
need
to
criminalize
or
that
aren't
safe
to
be
around
children,
and
so
I
think
that
shouldn't
be
something
that
holds
you
all
back
from
voting.
Yes
to
pass
this.
Also,
if
the
schools
are
within
the
community,
it
seems
like
they,
you
know
should
be
able
to
reach
out
on
their
own,
and
that's
not
really
for
joe
gatto
to
slow
down
this
process
for
them,
and
then
I
just
was
a
curious
for
michelle.
A
Your
michelle
could
answer
that
to
him
separately,
just
give
him
an
answer,
any
any
other
speakers
please.
X
I'll
just
be
really
quick.
So
as
a
not-for-profit
agency,
we
accept
referrals
from
everyone,
so
we
have
a
sliding
fee
scale
for
anyone
who
may
not
have
health
care
insurance,
and
then
we
have
in
contracts
with
many
insurance
companies.
So
it
really
is
open
to
anyone
and
who
lives
in
iowa
and
residency,
for
our
sliding
fee.
Scale
means
that
you've
slept
somewhere
for
overnight
here
so
yep
yep
as.
A
P
Yeah,
that's
always
good
taylor,
webber
ward,
three
yeah.
I
I
appreciate
luke's
comments.
I
completely
echo
those.
I
think
that
letting
that
go
unchecked
as
a
connotation
on
the
community
is
really
dangerous.
The
other
thing
I
would
push
back
on
as
well
joe.
P
I
don't
think
the
same
concerns
existed
at
the
last
meeting
in
the
meeting
before
when
menards
and
other
large
corporations
were
asking
for
zoning
exceptions
to
to
not
put
up
trees
in
their
parking
lot
and
so
going
at
and
allowing
that
to
continue
and
hand
wringing
about
letting
and
making
the
zoning
code
easier.
But
then,
when
it
comes
to
real
community
services
that
are
being
provided
here,
we're
slow
rolling.
P
I
would
also
point
out,
if
we're
not
happy
who
was
contacted
on
the
project,
I
believe
that's
also
in
the
city
code
that
whoever's
within
250
feet,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
and
if
the
school
isn't
within
it.
What
I've
heard
from
the
council
in
the
past
is
they
need
to
show
up
at
these
types
of
instances
and
allow
their
public
comments
to
be
heard.
So
I
don't
think
we
can
have
it
both
ways,
especially
when
it's
a
service,
that's
direly,
lacking
in
the
city.
Z
I've
been
working
with
communities
for
over
a
year
at
this
point
and
unfortunately,
when
an
individual
is
criminalized,
especially
for
substance
use
and
such
they
have
requirements
that
they
have
to
meet
in
order
to,
you
know
not
go
to
jail,
not
go
to
prison
and
there
are
not
a
lot
of
resources
that
are
even
willing
to
work
with
me.
If
someone
doesn't
say
have
a
social
security
number,
if
they
don't
have
certain
forms
of
identification
and
prelude
has
been
one
of
the
only
ones
that
I
have
had
any
luck
with.
Z
So
I
would
just
like
to
say
that
we
should
be.
I
mean
addressing
those
concerns
for
one,
but
also
prelude
has
at
least
shown
to
me
that
they,
they
are
actually
an
inclusive
organization
that
that
should
be
expanding,
so
that
we
can
continue
to
do
that
for
even
more
of
the
folks
that
we're
criminalizing.
R
Hey
this
is
jalen
just
want
to
uplift
the
comments
that
have
been
made
previously
before
me.
I
agree
with
all
of
them.
I
think
that
this
sounds
like
a
good
project.
I
am
supportive
of
the
rezoning.
I
think
that
all
of
the
services
that
are
being
offered
here
in
this
project
are
necessary
and
they
need
to
be
expanded.
I
think
we
need
to
be
putting
more
public
money
into
these
type
of
services,
especially
when
we're
talking
about
mental
health
services.
We
know
that
the
city
right
now
does
not
put
money
into
mental
health
services.
R
I
think
that's
an
issue.
We
need
to
be
sure,
we're
addressing
those
and
we
really
care
about
substance
abuse
issues
in
our
community
and
making
sure
that
folks
are
really
getting
the
help
that
they
need.
I
think
the
city
should
prioritize
decriminalizing
substance
use,
especially
cannabis
and
other
you
know
all
substance
use.
We
need
to
really
prioritize
decriminalizing
so
that
people
can
actually
get
the
help
that
they
need
and
we're
treating
this
like
the
health
problem
that
it
is
instead
of
a
criminal
problem.
Thanks.
K
With
that
I'll
make
a
motion
to
move
46
and
46
a
and
then
if
we
could
come
back
and
vote
on
47b,
but
46
b,
I'm
sorry,
but
I
will
make
the
commitment
that
I
will
get
in
touch
with
the
schools
that
joe
mentioned,
and
I
will
connect
them
with
miss
with
with
prelude
and
they
can
discuss.
But
there
was
a
public
meeting
you
know
I.
K
I
have
no
idea
why
they
didn't
reach
just
reach
out
to
prelude
you're
you're
right
there,
but
I
can
tell
everybody
that
this
property,
where
they're
going
to
expand
is,
is
you
can't
even
see
it?
I
mean
it's
been
there
for
years
and
years
and
years
and
people
drive
by
and
you
have
no
idea
it's
even
there,
because
it's
in
a
very
well
protected
area,
it's
surrounded
by
trees.
K
I
would
bet
90
of
the
people.
Don't
even
know
that
it's
there
right
now,
their
other
property
that
they're
wanting
to
eventually
move
is
right
on
the
corner
of
east
38th
and
from
east
38th
and
easton,
and
it's
white
out
in
the
open.
There's,
certainly.
K
It's
right
there
and
it's
near
schools.
So
it's
it's
not
really
like
we're
changing
anything.
So
I'm
a
little
surprised,
but
I'm
still
very
happy
to
reach
out.
I
will
connect
with
michelle.
I
will
connect
with
the
schools
and
we
can
do
a
zoom
call
or
something
to
talk,
but
the
information
is
there.
If
they
go
on
to
the
you
know,
plan
and
zoning
meetings.
Everything
was
outlined
right
there,
but
we'll
still
do
that.
But
my
motion
is
to
is
to
approve
item
46
and
46a.
A
L
Your
honor,
I
will
vote
no
for
this,
just
specifically
because
the
war
council
member
was
asked
over
a
month
ago
to
set
up
a
meeting
between
mecca
and
and
the
schools,
and
it
hasn't
been
done
yet
it's
not
that
any
of
the
schools
or
myself
are
against
this
project.
We
just
gave
them
a
commitment
that
that's
what
we
would
do
and
I
I
think,
I'm
not
sure
why
we
have
to
expedite
it
within
two
weeks
and
not
do
what
we
say
we
were
going
to
do,
but
that's
fine.
E
K
E
Before
we
move
on
from
this
item,
I
would
just
like
to
say
thank
you
sincerely
for
the
work
that
you
do
in
the
community.
I
think
that
getting
the
support
of
some
of
the
people
in
this
crowd
is
a
huge.
It
means
a
lot.
So
thank
you.
A
Is
on
the
2022
pcc
pavement
patching
program,
a
resolution,
improving
the
plan,
specifications,
form
of
contract
documents,
engineers
estimate
and
receive
and
file
bids
and
designating
the
lowest
responsible
bidder
is
tk
concrete
inc.
Tony
j
vermeer
is
the
president,
nine
hundred
and
twenty
four
thousand
six
hundred
and
seventy
five
dollars.
Council
communication
number
22-007.
A
G
A
All
right
that
completes
our
hearings,
it's
607
and
we're
going
to
move
back
to,
I
believe,
endear
item
26..
This
is
a
communication
from
planning
and
zoning.
26
is
regarding
a
city-initiated
request
for
the
vacation
of
a
remaining
east
to
west
alley
segment
to
the
west
of
6th
avenue
in
the
block
between
walnut
street
and
mulberry
street
indira.
E
Okay
on
item
26,
I
have
a
big
issue
with
the
intention
for
this
space
moving
forward.
The
intention
is
to
put
up
a
fence
to
block
off
this
alleyway,
but
I
will
bring
to
the
council's
attention
that
this
is
an
alleyway
that
is
directly
near
the
downtown
pantry
and
is
right
on
a
bus,
stop
and
is
a
place
where
people
who
are
unsheltered
who
live
downtown,
who
are
about
downtown
or
who
need
to
use.
E
The
pantry
have
been
spending
time,
and
I
think,
if
you
look
at
the
at
the
item
on
the
agenda,
if
you
look
at
all
of
the
details,
you
can
see
in
the
picture
of
the
area
that
is
specifying
the
dimensions
of
the
fence
there
are.
I
can
see
four
people
in
that
picture
when
it
was
taken.
E
This
is
a
space
that
is
utilized
by
the
community,
and
my
concern
is
that
our
intention
for
requesting
this
vacation
for
allowing
potentially
lease
or
or
whatever
agreement
we
come
to
to
have
this
fence
put
up,
is
essentially
anti-homeless
architecture.
It's
violent
to
our
house's
community.
It
creates
less
spaces
for
people
to
exist
downtown.
E
It
is
just
continuing
our
trend
of
trying
to
push
people
out
instead
of
addressing
the
needs.
If
this
were
a
project
that
were
to
say
vacate
the
alleyway
to
allow
for
seating
to
be
put
in
or
something
like
that.
That
would
be
a
completely
different
issue.
However,
putting
up
a
fence
is
something
that
I
cannot
get
on
board
with.
So
as
this
is
a
receive
and
file
from
planning
and
zoning
sort
of
situation,
I
would
move
to
receive
and
file,
but
then
to
strike
the
last
bit
of
that
motion.
E
That
says
refer
to
the
engineering
department,
real
estate
division.
I
would
not
like
this
to
continue
through
the
city,
so
my
motion
is
to
receive
and
file
and
not
take
any
action
after
that.
A
AA
AA
The
this
is
at
a
request
from
multiple
members
of
the
public
neighbors
in
the
area
and
hotel
guests
and
businesses
in
the
area,
the
the
location
and
around
the
alley.
AA
So,
in
response
to
that,
we
were
approached
by
the
owners
of
the
two
buildings
and
the
operators
of
the
two
buildings
for
the
safety
of
their
guests
and
their
residents
to
make
some
design
modifications
to
try
to
prohibit
this
activity
and
to
encourage
the
feeling
of
safety
in
the
area,
and
so
the
the
council's
action
is
is
related
to
the
vacation
of
the
alley.
The
owners
working
together
have
worked
with
the
fence
company
and
have
a
designed
a
plan
where
they
could
still
have
access
for
fire.
AA
Egress
out
of
that,
out
of
that
vacated
space
and
as
you
as
you
can
see
in
the
picture,
access
for
the
dumpster
area
that
serves
the
back
of
those
buildings.
G
V
E
Okay,
I
do
understand
that
generally
the
word
council
member
moves,
but
because
I
pulled
this
item
to
speak
on
it,
my
purpose
was
to
move
it
without
furthering
any
action,
but
it.
B
And
that
that's
fine,
I
I'm
not
going
to
support
this
particular
motion.
That's
fine!
I
understand
I
understand
the
concerns
that
you're
raising
and
that's
a
constant
challenge
with
with
what
is
going
on
from
a
homeless
perspective
and
houseless
residents
downtown.
B
This
is
a
solution
that
the
neighboring
properties
have
worked
collaboratively
to
come
up
with
the
alternative
and
what
this
will
defer,
or
one
of
the
things
that
this
will
defer
is
continued
enforcement,
because
there
are
a
large
number
of
police
calls
and
I
believe,
a
significant
number
of
arrests.
Although
folks
are
not
held
long,
it's
it's
a
minor
charge,
but
it
it
is,
I
think,
a
less
desirable
approach
in
this
particular
area.
B
So
I'm
I
know
it
does
not
solve
the
solution
and-
and
I
I
know
that
this
is
a
broader
issue
that
we
still
have
to
tackle,
but
I
will
support
the
property
owners
moving
forward
and
trying
to
resolve
this
particular
this
particular
item.
So
I'd
encourage
my
other
colleagues
to
vote
no
and
then
I
will
plan
on
moving
this
item
so
that
we
can
move
forward
based
on
the
work
that
has
been.
E
So
I
would
like
to
address
just
a
couple
of
the
statements
that
were
made.
One
of
the
statements
that
was
made
is
that
we
are
working
with
property
owners
that
was
brought
up
by
property
owners
and
part
of
the
system,
and
I
brought
this
up
with
city
staff
earlier
part
of
the
system
that
we
use
for
this
is
to
notify
the
surrounding
areas,
and
we
notified
the
neighborhood
association.
There
was
no
notification
of
any
of
the
people
who
actually
use
this
alleyway.
E
There
was
no
notification
for
anybody
who
potentially
sleeps
in
this
alleyway
for
anybody
who
sits
there
to
eat
their
lunch
in
this
alleyway,
so
that
systemically
does
not
give
us
any
feedback
from
the
actual
people
who
use
this
alleyway.
It
only
gives
us
feedback
from
property
owners,
and
that
is
extremely
concerning
to
me
also
to
say
this
isn't
a
solution,
but
we
want
to.
This
is
another
thing:
we're
just
saying
we're
going
to
ignore
the
problem
and
we're
going
to
displace
people.
E
That's
what
we're
actually
doing,
and
so
my
concern
is
like
a
solution
could
be
obviously
a
larger
solution
of
housing.
People
of
you
know
like
improving
people's
material
conditions,
but
a
more
immediate
solution
would
be
not
to
send
police
officers
in
but
to
send
mediators
violence
de-escalators
like
to
start
anything
like
that
in
this
area,
because
we
cannot
just
say
that
somebody's
input
is
more
important
than
the
others,
especially
when
we
haven't
even
heard
one
of
those
those
pieces
of
input.
So
I
will
not
be
withdrawing
my
motion.
My
motion
stands.
D
Can
I
just
bring
up
too?
This
was
not
just
property
owners,
these
are
the
people
that
are
living
in
those
apartments
that
have
been
harassed
and
challenged
by
the
people
that
are
in
the
alley
and
according
to
the
homeless,
shelter.
Many
of
these
people
are
not
homeless.
They
don't
show
up,
they
don't
show
up
when
people
the
in
between
people.
They
are
people
that
are
residents
probably
of
the
city,
but
I'm
just
saying
this
was
not
about
property
owners.
E
Again,
we
have
not
heard
any
input
from
the
other
side
of
this
we're
just
picking
a
winner
in
this
situation.
Instead
of
bringing
like
any
kind
of
like
and
bringing
people
together,
figuring
out
a
solution,
we're
just
saying
that
we
heard
from
you
and
so
we've
decided
that
your
issue
is
what
we're
going
to
deal
with
and
we're
going
to
displace
people
from
where
they
eat.
To
do
that,
they're
not
being.
H
L
E
Joe
just
for
clarification,
there
was
an
overhead
view
of
a
map.
There
were
two
overhead
views
of
maps.
One
was
okay.
L
L
A
And
there's
going
to
be
if
it
doesn't
pass
a
an
alternate
to
move
forward.
A
A
Okay,
moving
to
item
34,
which
is
approving
a
second
renewal
agreement
to
license
agreement
with
the
islamic
center
of
des
moines
for
the
use
of
a
portion
of
glendale
cemetery
to
bury
deceased
members
of
the
islamic
faith.
Council
communication
number
22-002,
indira.
E
And
I
just
had
a
clarifying
question
on
this
and
I
apologize
for
not
being
able
to
get
in
touch
with
ben
page
earlier,
but
my
clarifying
question
was
just
this
is
a
essentially
like
a
lease
agreement
for
a
certain
number
of
spaces,
and
I
just
didn't
know-
I
know,
there's
other
religious
groups
that
also
have
this
lease
agreement.
E
I
just
didn't
know
if
it's
essentially
more
expensive
to
bury
your
deceased
if
you
are
bearing
your
deceased
through
the
islamic
center
than
it
is
for
other
people,
because
of
that
five
thousand
dollar
lease
agreement.
Does
that
make
sense?
That's
a
question.
A
A
E
F
I
I
I'll
give
you
the
answer
that
I
have
is
that
it's
a
license
agreement
that
gives
exclusive
use
to
that
group
because
they
have
a
different
process,
and
so
we
actually
look
at
what
we
could
normally
make
in
that
section
we
call
them
a
section
like
a
block
in
the
neighborhood.
If
you
go
through
glendale,
you
see
different
blocks
outlined
by
roads,
so
they
have
different
processes.
They
use
that
require
us
to
have
capture
less
revenue,
that's
part
of
it
and
they
get
exclusive
use
of
that.
So
no
other
groups
can
be
buried
in
that
section.
E
I
don't
know
if
my
question
was
answered.
There
are
like
other
groups.
Other
religious
groups
may
pay
a
fee
to
have
a
similar
situation,
but
in
general,
if
you
are
not
part
of
one
of
those
religious
groups-
and
you
are
buried
at
glendale
cemetery-
that
you
essentially
don't
have
whatever
portion
of
that
fee,
so
it's
less
expensive.
I
E
Yep,
I
don't
want
to
disrupt
this
agreement
in
any
way,
but
that
is
a
little
bit
concerning,
and
I
might
want
more
conversation
about
that
at
some
point
anytime.
Okay,
thank
you
motion
to
approve.
A
Item
38
is
a
hang
on
one.
Second
again,
this
is
approving
a
purchase
of
a
remote
operated,
explosive
ordnance,
robot
system
for
use
by
the
statewide
certified
explosive
ordnance,
detection,
eod
teams
from
safeware
inc
with
the
2021
homeland
security,
explosive
ordnance,
device
grant.
Council
communication
number
22-004,
indira.
E
Okay,
so
this
is
an
issue
that
has
been
coming
up
on
council
generals
for
a
couple
years,
because
we've
been
repurchasing
or
replacing
these
remote
operated
explosive
ordnance,
robot
systems
for
the
seven
statewide
bomb
squad
teams
for
the
last
few
years.
This
would
be
the
last
of
the
seven
that
needed
to
be
replaced,
and
I
spoke
about
this
last
year
when
it
was
on
the
council
agenda.
E
I
do
not
approve
of
us
spending
this
money
on
for
the
police
first
of
all,
but
I
also
think
that
the
standards
to
which
we
are
trying
to
achieve
are
much
higher
than
the
need
that
exists
in
des
moines,
and
I
will
not
sit
here
and
pretend
that
there
is
not
a
need
to
be
able
to
defuse
a
bomb
in
des
moines.
E
I
think
we
all
know
that
we've
had
a
lot
of
bomb
thought
threats
this
month
and
specifically
this
week,
and
I
think
that
is
extremely
serious
and
we
need
to
take
that
extremely
seriously.
E
But
we
also
know
that
we
have
these
extremely
expensive
bomb
squads
that
we
fund,
and
I
understand
that
it
is
an
agreement
through
the
federal
government
and
the
state
that
we
fund
all
of
the
statewide
bomb
squads,
but
that
that
hasn't
prevented
white
supremacist
bomb
threats
that
hasn't
prevented
attacks
on
our
democracy
potentially,
and
I
think
that
if
anybody
were
to
look
into
as
I
did
last
year,
what
the
requirements
are
to
remain
a
type
one
bomb
squad
in
iowa
or
in
the
country
and
the
type
of
robots
that
we're
buying.
E
E
We
know
that
a
bomb
squad
in
california
like
blew
up
an
entire
city
block
last
year
generally.
I
think
that
it
is
important
that
we
have
a
way
to
defuse
threats.
I
do
not
think
that
that
should
be
through
the
police
department
or
through
any
law
enforcement
agency.
I
think
that
that
needs
to
be
a
specialized
team
that
has
more
accountability
for
the
public
and
I
don't
think
that
we
anywhere
near
meet
the
need
that
a
type
one
bomb
squad
requires,
and
so
I
will
not.
A
Sitting
replacement
substitute
mana
the
new
manager
to
give
us
some
notification
here.
AA
Yeah,
I
think
councilmember
schumacher
summarized
that.
AA
That's
okay,
councilmember
shoemaker,
summarize
that
relationship
between
us
and
the
other
state
statewide
jurisdictions
very
well.
Regarding
the
purchase
for
item
number
38
and
you're,
going
to
speak
on
39.,
specifically
on
38,
the
system
being
purchased
will
is:
is
that
passed
through
that
that
device
will
be
going
to
the
quad
cities
and
not
not
it's
not
in
the
city
of
des
moines
and
the
purchase
being
done
on
39
that
device
those
devices
will
be
in
the
quad
cities
and
the
state
of
iowa
fire
marshal.
E
A
Indirect
item
39
purchase
of
two
ruggedized
portable
digital
imaging
systems
for
statewide
explosive
ordnance,
detection,
eod
teams
with
scana
msc
inc
with
2021
homeland
security,
explosive
ordnance
grant
council
communication
number
22-005
endear.
A
Okay,
we're
moving
on
to
ordinances
final
consideration,
43
amending
section.
A
E
First,
a
clarifying
question,
since
this
is
a
third
consideration
you
are
allowed
to
like
amend
things
in
between
considerations
and
not
have
to
start
over
right
like
you
can
like.
If
you
pass
an
ordinance
on
the
first
consideration,
but
then
you
change
something
for
the
second
consideration.
You
don't
have
to
start
over
at
first
consideration,
so
on
third
consideration.
We
could
change
something
and
then
we
wouldn't
have
to
start
over.
E
Okay,
so
you'll
tell
me
if
it's
substantive,
the
only
thing.
I
think
this
is
a
great
program.
I,
like
all
the
amendments
that
were
made.
I
would
just
want
to
on
section
2-1177
powers
and
duties,
either
like
a
sub
point
to
section
five
or
potentially
an
additional
point.
I'm
not
really
sure
how
that
would
go
about.
It
says,
advise
and
make
recommendations
to
city,
council
and
city
departments.
E
I
would
just
want
an
accountability
piece
from
the
city
as
like
a
response,
essentially
to
say
we
received
this
recommendation,
here's
what
we
did
about
it
and
have
that
be
sent
back
to
the
council
or
here's
what
we
didn't
do
about
it
and
here's.
Why
sure
that's
cool
all
right,
then,
I
would
like
to
move
with
that
amendment.
M
A
E
It
would
be
a
so.
The
board
makes
recommendations
to
council
yeah
to
the
city,
council
and
state
departments,
and
then
the
council
would
respond
to
the
board.
Here's
what
we
did
with
your
recommendation.
M
To
do
it,
you
can
either
decide
to
to
pass
that
and
we'll
do
our
best
to
draft
the
local
freeways
decide
to
do
that.
We'll
do
our
best
to
draft
the
language
based
on
what
was
said.
That
would
be
imprecise.
I
wouldn't
recommend
that
the
second
thing
to
do
would
be
to
continue
the
final
consideration
and
we'll
try
to
come
up
with
language
for
the
amendment
or
the
third
thing
is
you
don't
make
the
amendment,
but
those
would
be,
could
have.
B
A
A
All
right
that
completes
that
part
of
the
agenda
we're
going
to
now
move
to
the
communications
and
reports
in
public
speaking
again
for
those
persons
that
are
going
to
speak
this
evening
under
the
public
speaking
items
of
the
agenda,
we
will
only
be
calling
on
those
who
have
registered
to
speak.
All
speakers
must
comply
with
our
rules
regarding
their
names
addresses
and
they
will
not
be,
or
they
won't
be
recognized
to
speak.
Each
of
the
five
speakers
this
evening
will
receive
two
minutes
to
make
their
comments.
A
Keep
your
own
time,
because
the
end
of
two
minutes
clerks
can
announce
time
and
then
the
speaker's
mic
will
be
closed
and
we'll
move
immediately
to
the
next
speaker.
We
want
to
hear
from
all
of
our
residents
and
we
encourage
residents
to
be
respectful
of
each
other
and
their
viewpoints,
which
may
be
different
from
your
own.
A
But
while
you
may
certainly
disagree
with
that
viewpoint,
I
remind
you
that
every
one
of
our
council
rules
provide
that
comments.
That
are
slanderous
will
result
in
that
speaker
being
barred
from
further
comments.
As
a
presiding
officer,
I
will
determine
whether
the
comments
or
slanders
are
not
unfair
and
warning.
A
W
Hello,
my
name
is
adam
mcallan,
ward,
three,
first
off
I
wanna
talk
about
the
people
that
are
being
excluded
from
these
meetings.
First
off
with
no
hybrid
option.
Anybody
who
currently
has
covid
anybody
who's
been
exposed
to
cove
or
anybody,
that's
an
increased
risk
of
code.
They
just
cannot
speak
in
these
meetings.
I
think
that's
unacceptable.
We've
been
in
this
pandemic
for
a
long
long
time
and
excluding
that
many
people,
especially
during
this
wave,
is
not
just
like
unacceptable
and
bad.
W
It's
also
dangerous
because
we
need
to
be
hearing
from
the
people
that
are
most
at
risk
right
now
and
we're
excluding
them.
Similarly,
there's
still
an
address
requirement
for
speaking,
you
have
to
file
an
address
in
the
first
place
before
you
can
speak,
and
that
includes
a
lot
of
healthless
folks.
We
know
the
city
is
targeting
houseless
folks
they've
slept
around
six
camps
during
this
winter
during
a
pandemic
and
there's
also
no
winter
shelter.
W
So
again,
cities
excluding
certain
people
from
these
meetings
that
really
need
to
be
heard,
need
to
be
worked
with
not
worked
against.
I
also
want
to
talk
about
covet
in
general.
There
are
no
items
at
least
directly
related
to
covet
on
this
agenda.
Meanwhile,
we're
speeding
developments
doing
other
things,
some
stuff.
That
is
good,
like
opening
new
public
parks,
but
it's
unacceptable
that
we're
doing
all
that
and
not
putting
some
of
that
on
hold
actually
takes
some
action
on
covid.
W
While
we're
in
this,
especially
this
huge
wave
right
now,
the
city
is
still
sitting
on
funds.
It
could
be
providing
masks
and
tests
to
people
providing
meals
for
people
in
quarantine,
providing
stimulus
for
workers
or
people
have
to
stay
home
doing
any
kind
of
like
math
mandate.
Stuff,
there's
a
lot
of
options.
We
could
do.
That's
not
exhaustive.
I
also
had
to
talk
about.
There
was
a
human
trafficking
proclamation
at
the
start
of
this
meeting.
W
It
was
mentioned
things
made
with
forced
labor.
It
was
not
mentioned
that
iowa
uses
prison
labor
to
just
make
a
lot
of
things
that
are
used
in
public
buildings.
I
don't
know
if
that's
true
of
city
hall,
I
don't
know
that
many
details,
but
I
hope
that
city
council
is
thinking
about
the
things
that
they
use
that
are
made
with
forced
labor,
because
I'm
sure
there
are
things
that
they
use.
Like
that.
I
know
a
lot
of
the
covent
tests
are
even
made
with
forced
labor.
W
It's
awful
also
want
to
talk
about
the
fact
that
the
city
clerk
has
been
for
a
long
time
now,
but
it's
coming
up
again
blocking
a
certain
request
to
speak.
It's
unacceptable
city
clerk
is
making
kind
of
arbitrary
rules
to
block.
E
P
Acknowledge
the
first
council
meeting
with
indira,
I
appreciate
getting
a
voice,
not
only
a
movement,
to
speak
on
items
I
emailed
in
about,
but
then
hearing
that
similar
opinion
and
voice
being
given
that
maybe
doesn't
align
with
everyone
else.
So
I
appreciate
that
first
off
the
top.
That's
big!
P
Second,
from
that
I
had
a
bunch
of
prepared
things
and
then
some
kind
of
craziness
happened
and
just
in
general,
like
we
said
how
expensive
bathrooms
are
like
300,
400
000.
You
just
spent
that
much
money
on
a
robot
dog
and
some
x-ray
goggles
to
detect
bombs.
So
like
the
priority
is
the
problem,
not
the
money,
and
so
I
would
encourage
us
to
continue
to
do
those
things
that
actually
improve
our
city
and
put
the
money
in
those
places.
P
So
the
other
big
thing
I
think
the
bomb
threats
have
been
going
on
in
our
community
and
we're
not
doing
anything
about
it.
We're
spending
more
money
with
police,
but
that's
just
reactive
that
doesn't
solve
the
crime
and
then
a
huge
issue
is:
it
is
very,
very
cold
like
dangerously
deadly
cold,
and
we
are
doing
nothing
as
a
city
to
actually
try
and
get
these
people
into
situations
that
they
can
thrive
in
and
get
themselves
out
of.
P
If
you
say,
go
to
a
warming
center
and
you're
talking
about
a
mall
or
a
library
that
either
isn't
open
in
the
evenings
or
isn't
open
on
the
weekends,
that's
not
some
place
that
someone
can
live
and
try
and
get
up
off
their
feet
in
this
city.
Also,
the
crazy
item
of
hey
we're
working
with
businesses
to
clear
people
out.
Do
you
think
people
aren't
just
going
to
stand
on
the
sidewalk?
P
Like
you
closed
the
alley
you
did
like?
Do
you
think
you
actually
solved
anything
genuinely
like
just
ask
yourself
that
later
I
don't
think
you
did,
but
that's
okay
and
I
think
more
time
it
threw
me
off
a
bit,
but
I
would
just
say
echo.
The
covet
issue
like
this
is
really
big
and
problematic.
People
with
accessibility
concerns
are
risking
their
lives
to
come
to
a
meeting
like
this,
just
because
they
have
a
comorbidity
which
is
like
all
of
us.
T
Bridget
peterson
ward
2
she
hers
all
I've
been
able
to
think
about
today
is
a
photo.
I
saw
on
social
media.
The
photo
was
of
a
line
of
cars
waiting
to
get
into
one
of
the
only
operational,
coveted
testing
sites
in
the
county,
and
the
line
was
so
long
that
police
officers
had
to
completely
close
off
the
street.
This
line
of
cars
was
at
least
half
a
mile
long
just
to
get
tests
in
des
moines
iowa,
and
still
we
have
no
virtual
option
for
meetings.
T
T
I've
completely
stopped
drinking
my
tap
water,
because
I'm
worried
that
filtering.
It
is
not
enough
to
combat
the
volume
of
nitrates
that
I'm
seeing
in
our
water.
I'm
worried
that
if
I
get
covet,
I
will
have
to
miss
at
least
two
weeks
of
work,
which
I
absolutely
cannot
afford
to
do.
I'm
also
worried
that,
if
I
get
covered,
I
won't
be
able
to
get
a
hold
of
the
necessary
pcr
test
to
ensure
that
I
get
insurance
coverage
in
case
I
have
long-term
symptoms.
T
I
can't
trust
the
rapid
tests
because
they
are
produced
by
prison,
labor
under
inhumane
conditions.
This
causes
the
quality
of
the
tests
to
suffer
and
often
results
in
false
negatives.
I'm
also
incredibly
concerned
about
how
emboldened
white
supremacists
have
become
in
this
city.
I
think
about
all
the
non-white
people
in
my
life.
I
care
about
them
a
lot,
and
I
wish
you
did
too
because
five
of
you
aren't
taking
this
seriously,
and
these
are
the
lives
of
people
I
love.
T
T
V
Julian
prescott,
ward
2
did
I
say
that
homeless
people
were
criminals.
No
did
I
say
that
you
know
you
put
that
in
my
mouth.
V
V
O
The
bomb
threat
that
many
of
us
have
heard
about
that
occurred
at
burns
united
methodist
church
on
sunday
I
and
a
few
other
folks
here
did
get
in
touch
with
reverend
dr
thompson,
who
is
the
pastor
of
that
church,
and
one
of
the
things
that
she
asked
me
to
share
was
a
the
statement
from
the
methodist
bishop
of
iowa
bishop
lori
haller,
a
dear
iowa,
united
methodist.
I
am
writing
this
afternoon
following
news
of
a
bomb
threat
at
burns
united
methodist
church
in
des
moines.
O
The
threat
is
currently
under
investigation
by
local
law
enforcement.
Burns
united
methodist
church.
A
historically
black
church,
is
the
oldest
multicultural
church
in
the
state
of
iowa
and
takes
its
name
in
honor
of
francis
burns,
the
first
black
bishop
of
episcopal
methodism
from
its
formation
in
1866
by
black
residents.
The
congregation's
ministries
have
focused
on
love
of
god,
love
of
neighbor
and
a
commitment
to
justice,
mercy
and
outreach
ministries.
O
While
we
do
not
yet
know
the
details
of
the
bomb
threat
emailed
to
local
law
enforcement,
this
comes
at
a
time
when
racially
motivated
hate
crimes
are
on
the
rise
locally
and
nationally.
Racism
has
rightly
been
called
america's
original
sin:
sin
that
continues
to
breed
acts
and
attitudes
of
hatreds
of
hatred.
As
iowa's
united
methodists
respond
to
this
morning's
news.
Our
efforts
must
be
constantly
led
and
accompanied
by
prayer,
even
as
we
work
with
people
of
faith
and
community
leaders
to
engage
in
concrete
action
to
dismantle
hatred
in
its
many
forms.
O
Bishop
holler
also
included
a
prayer
after
that
that
I'd
encourage
everyone
here
to
read,
but
I
do
want
to
point
to
that
last
line
that
we
need
community
leaders
who
are
willing
to
engage
in
concrete
action
to
dismantle
hatred
in
its
many
forms.
If
we
want
to
be
proactive
and
not
reactive
to
these
kinds
of
threats,
we
need
community
leaders
who
are
ready
to
dismantle
white
supremacy
and
racism
in
all
of
these
ways.
O
That's
what
bishop
holler
has
called
on
you
all
to
do
here.
That's
what
many
folks
have
called
on
city
leaders
to
do
personally,
I'm
not
confident
that
many
of
you
here
are
willing
to
take
up
that
challenge.
I
hope
you
will
prove
me
wrong
and
take
this
threat
against
a
cultural
institution,
a
black
hole.
H
S
Are
moral
documents
the
most
accurate
way
to
tell
what
a
community
values
is
by
looking
how
they
spend
their
money
whenever
the
police
department
wants
to
spend
hundreds
of
thousands
of
dollars,
it's
considered
such
a
foregone
conclusion
that
it's
on
the
consent
agenda
and
doesn't
even
get
public
problem
comment
or
isn't
even
moved
within
the
community
where
they
will
be
used.
These
tools
have
been
used
to
kill
in
other
communities
like
dallas.
The
people
of
the
quad
cities
deserve
to
have
weighed
in
if
those
things
are
coming
to
their
community.
S
Meanwhile,
in
our
own
city,
we
can't
even
get
funding
for
real
warming.
Centers
for
our
houseless
neighbors
are
for
services
for
their
camp
communities.
The
city
claims
that
malls
and
libraries
can
serve
the
purpose,
but
they
aren't
even
open
overnight
and
just
last
year
one
of
our
fellow
citizens
froze
to
death
in
the
library
lot.
Just
yesterday,
an
elderly
woman
was
warming
with
her
service
animal
and
was
thrown
out
of
jordan
creek
mall.
I
understand
the
police
department.
A
E
Mr
mayor,
as
pertains
to
rule
41
of
the
rules
of
procedure,
any
council
member
may,
at
the
end
of
close
a
regular
agenda,
bring
a
matter
not
on
the
agenda.
The
council's
attention
council
may
act
upon
such
matters
as
permitted
by
law
or
direct,
such
matter
to
be
included
upon
a
later
agenda.
E
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
situation
with
winter
weather
and
unsheltered
folks
in
the
city
this
sunday,
I
went
out
to
a
couple
of
houses
camps
and
talked
to
residents
specifically
to
see
if
the
things
we
were
told
in
our
meeting
with
the
homeless,
coordinating
council
was
being
implemented
or
was
successful
in
its
implementation
to
get
people
off
the
streets
in
this
cold
weather.
What
I
heard
from
one
resident-
and
this
is
a
quote
word
for
word-
the
rules
and
regulations
they
have
down
at
sis
are
worse
than
polk
county
jail.
E
That
is
a
concern
that
I
have
as
three
out
of
six
people
that
I
talked
to
on
one
route
said
they
would
not
go
to
cis
under
any
circumstances
and
all
six
said
they
haven't
gone
this
week
except
to
shower
or
eat
as
well.
None
of
them
told
me
that
they
had
interacted
with
the
street
outreach
team
in
any
way
the
street
outreach
team
had
not
been
out
to
see
them
to
offer
them
shelter
at
cis
to
let
them
know
about
the
weather
amnesty.
E
There
were
a
lot
of
issues
that
I'm
aware
of,
and
a
lot
of
issues
that
I
heard
when
I
was
speaking
to
houseless
folks.
Just
the
rules
and
regulations
are
too
strict,
but
not
only
that,
but
the
staff
members
that
they
put
in
charge
are
treating
people
at
the
shelter
very
poorly.
E
No
one
had
any
complaints
about
anyone
else
at
the
shelter
they
only
had
complaints
about
how
they
were
treated
by
staff,
and
some
people
were
less
harsh
than
others
saying
that
staff
members
they
put
in
charge
are
just
not
well
trained
to
handle
situations
that
there
are.
A
lot
of
people
have
ptsd.
E
This
person
I
was
talking
to
is
a
veteran
and
that
people,
when
they're
used
to
isolating
outside
the
shift
to
being
indoors
in
big
crowds,
is
extremely
overwhelming
and
there
are
not
any
like
systems
in
place
to
deal
with
that.
There
is
a
point
of
miscommunication,
potentially
in
that
sis
has
told
us
that
they
have
had
a
storage
unit
for
people
to
store
their
belongings
for
the
last
year.
E
I
believe
is
what
I
heard,
but
that
even
last
spring,
as
somebody
brought
a
tent
to
somebody
who
was
about
to
time
out
of
the
shelter
at
two
days
left,
they
were
not
allowed
to
bring
that
tent
in
by
a
manager.
So
I
don't
know
if
there's
miscommunication,
between
managers
and
the
leadership
at
cis
or
where
that
miscommunication
is
happening,
but
we
are
hearing
different
stories
from
different
people
who
have
actually
experienced
being
in
the
shelter.
E
This
idea
that
is
promoted
in
these
conversations
that
if
people
are
motivated,
they're
going
to
find
housing
through
cis,
I
think,
is
short-sighted,
as
there
are
people
who
are
on
waiting
lists
for
housing
for
months
and
months
and
months
like
nine
months
at
a
time,
but
cis
doesn't
allow
you
to
stay.
That
long.
Also,
the
issue
that,
if
you
cannot
that
you're
free
on
section
eight,
you
can't
also
be
on
emergency
housing.
E
The
issue
that
if
you
have
a
previous
felony,
it's
much
harder
to
find
housing,
and
so
this
idea
that
motivation
is
the
only
factor
that
gets
people
out
of
the
shelter
into
housing
versus
out
of
the
shelter
and
back
onto
the
street,
I
think,
is
faulty.
I
also
want
to
acknowledge
the
fact
that
when
we
say
we
can
just
put
everybody
in
cis
for
harsh
weather
conditions
because
they
have
their
weather
amnesty
program,
whether
or
not
that
is
being
upheld
in
the
way
that
we've
been
communicated,
that
it
is
the
weather.
E
Amnesty
program
only
allows
people
to
sleep
on
chairs
or
sleep
on
the
floor
where
they're
being
stepped
on
or
being
stepped
over
in
the
lobby
area,
and
that
I
believe,
as
report
from
sis,
they
are
no
longer
on
under
capacity
they're
over
capacity,
and
so
people
are
sleeping
in
the
lobby
and
we
could
solve
that
by
opening
an
actual
winter
shelter
that
has
more
space
and
is
more
spread
out
and
has
cots
and
is
dealing
with
these
things
in
harsh
conditions.
E
Someone
said
to
me
that,
with
the
conditions
insist
people
just
can't
live
like
that,
especially
people
who
are
used
to
having
their
independence.
There
is
not
like
a
sense
of
autonomy
for
people
at
cis
who
are
staying
there,
and
that
is
the
reason
a
lot
of
people
won't
go
there.
E
There's
issues
of
resources
talk
to
somebody
who
had
a
cat
and
theoretically
they
could
be
sheltered
by
cis,
but
they
didn't
have
a
cat
carrier,
so
who's
going
to
bring
them
a
cat
carrier,
so
they
can
bring
their
cat
in
and
and
be
put
through
in
that
situation.
Another
issue
that
I
heard
was
that
the
area
that
the
city
is
looking
at
not
enforcing
encroachment
cleanups.
E
That
is
extremely
concerning
to
hear
from
somebody
who
is
sleeping
outside
that
they're
not
willing
to
go
to
the
area
that
we
are
trying
to
say
like
is
a
testing
site
for
if
this
is
going
to
work,
if
we
can
stop
enforcing
encroachment,
cleanups
and
displacing
people
that
it
feels
like
a
concentration
field,
an
issue
is
that
they
chop
down
all
the
trees
in
that
area.
There's
no
cover
and
there's
no
privacy
and
people
don't
want
to
be
harassed.
E
The
other
another
issue
was
that
it's
too
crowded
and
that
people
can't
always
live
together
in
those
situations,
and
it
was
brought
to
my
attention
that
some
times
there
are
domestic
violence
issues
that
people
deal
with
and
having
one
location
where
they
can
feel
a
stability
of
not
being
displaced,
means
that
they
don't
have
an
option
to
go
somewhere
else
if
they
are
in
a
dangerous
situation
with
another
camper.
So
just
having
that
one
area
isn't
working.
E
If
we
want
to
see
if
this
is
going
to
work,
we
would
need
to
implement
more
and
we
would
need
to
use
consideration
from
the
people
who
would
be
staying
there
as
to
what
that
would
need
to
look
like.
I
think
that
covers
generally
everything
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
about
this
issue,
but
I
do
think
that
we
need
to
move
on
this
extremely
quickly.
E
I
think
that
one
of
the
things
we
need
to
do
is
a
simple
thing
of
making
sure
that
we
do
not
do
encroachment
cleanups
during
a
weather
amnesty
time,
because
we
don't
want
to
be
further
displacing
people,
and
I
think
that
we
need
to
make
serious
consideration
of
opening
alternate
shelter
other
than
cis
because
of
the
issues
with
people
not
being
able
to
go
there,
and
I
would
be
willing
to
work
with
polk
county
emergency
management
to
discuss
that
further.
So
that
is
something
that
I
would
like
addressed
soon
very
soon.