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From YouTube: 6-23-22 City Council work session
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Des Moines City Council evening work session on Thursday, June 23, 2022 at 5 p.m.
View the agenda: https://DSM.city/CouncilMeetings
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Okay,
and
just
so
you,
you
know,
we
have
council,
member
boss,
westergard
gatto
and
myself
all
present
in
the
chamber.
C
G
Thank
you
mayor
pro
tem
council
members,
members
of
the
public.
Thank
you
for
taking
this
time
to
set
aside
to
have
this
conversation
about
the
arpa
funds
that
are
going
to
be
avail
that
are
available
to
the
city
of
des
moines.
G
There
have
been
quite
a
bit
of
input
received
at
the
city
over
the
last
year
and
even
a
little
bit
more
when
this
was
contemplated,
and
we've
come
to
the
point
where
we
are
presenting
a
starting
case
of
how
those
funds
could
be
allocated
and
we're
going
to
hear
from
our
finance
director
nick
shaw
on
some
more
details
of
that.
But
I
wanted
to
set
the
stage
with
there's:
there's
not
a
need
for
tonight
to
have
a
final
decision
on
how
all
the
funds
are
being
allocated.
G
What
we
want
to
have
is
the
buckets
to
be
established
and
make
a
decision
on
an
ability
to
allocate
funds
to
each
of
the
five
buckets
secondary
to
that.
I
would
like
to
have
input
as
to
if
some
of
the
projects
can
move
forward
quickly,
because
some
of
these
have
implications
yet
this
summer
and
maybe
even
into
the
fall
that
need
some
planning
time.
G
So
I'd
like
to
get
some
input
on
some
of
those
as
we
get
later
into
the
conversation
and
then,
of
course,
if
there
are
any
items
that
or
for
political
reasons,
you've
decided
it's
just
not
good
to
even
remain
on
the
list.
Obviously
I
need
to
know
that,
and
so
with
that,
I
think
I'll
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
nick
for
some
of
the
details,
I'll
insert
myself
with
more
detail
as
necessary.
As
there's
questions,
I
would
offer
up
to
that.
G
H
Thank
you
see,
mr
scott,
as
scott
alluded
to
we're,
going
to
be
kind
of
talking
about
the
american
rescue
plan,
act
and
kind
of
some
of
the
beginning
information
about
about
that.
Just
for
a
reminder
of
that
process
and
what
we've,
what
we've
done
so
far
and
then
also
get
into
an
expenditure
policy
and
kind
of
that
framework
that
we
want
to
be
able
to
move
forward
with
some
of
the
items
as
well
as
just
kind
of
have
that
discussion
for
at
that
council
level.
H
When
I
go
into
kind
of
the
general
information
on
the
american
rescue
plan
act,
if
just
as
a
refresher,
the
funds
that
we
received
are
based
off
of
that
state.
Local
fiscal
recovery
funds
that
was
allocated
350
billion
dollars
of
that
allocation,
the
city
of
des
moines
actually
got
just
a
little
over
94.8
million.
H
With
that
there
is
very
specific
timelines
that
we
have
to
work
with
with
these
funds.
There
is
a
commitment
that
the
council
has
to
have
by
the
end
of
calendar
year
2024
and
those
and
the
funds
have
to
be
spent
by
the
calendar
year
of
2026..
H
H
Now
there
is
a
lot
of
reporting
requirements
with
these
funds.
Obviously
it's
a
very
large
a
dollar
amount
for
what
the
city
has.
H
We
have
reporting
requirements
of
quarterly
that
we
is
due
to
the
department
of
treasury
that
we
do
have
are
going
to
have
available
for
everybody
to
to
see
off
of
our
our
budget
website.
Those
currently
that
we've
had
to
submit
thus
far
have
shown
that
we
haven't
spent
or
committed
any
of
the
funds.
H
We
are
starting
to
get
to
that
point.
Where
you'll
see
on
the
next
council
meeting,
where
we
have
a
few
items
on
there
to
do
that
now
from
there
there's
also
another
level
of
reporting
requirements
that
are
required
for
different
spends
that
you
do
that
the
different
entities
would
have
to
do
a
lot
of
those
are
triggered
at
that
10
million
mark,
where
there's
a
lot
of
additional
requirements
and
and
reporting
that
that
has
to
happen
as
well.
So
just
wanted
to
make
you
aware
of
some
of
that
requirements.
H
If
allocations
to
a
particular
project
goes
beyond
that
that
10
million.
D
G
H
Then
the
other
thing
I
wanted
to
kind
of
discuss
as
well
is
kind
of
how
we're
accounting
for
it
and
how
we'll
be
reporting
it
at
for
from
a
finance
standpoint.
It
is
in
a
special
revenue
fund,
that's
a
type
of
fund
that
is
very
segregated
from
other
funds.
It's
easily
reported
on,
and
we
can
basically
kind
of
track
those
expenses
very
easily
and
report
on
those
it's
very
similar
to
the
local
option
that
we
have.
H
We
have
those
funds,
specifically
in
its
own
fund,
those
contracts,
sub-awards
and
or
sub-awards
to
outside
entities
and
then
transfers
for
different
things
that
we
have
within
the
city.
So
an
example
we're
going
to
get
into
is
to
like
the
enterprise
fund
or
capital
project
funds.
Those
will
actually
transfers
within
city
funds,
so
it'll
go
from
the
special
revenue
fund
to
either
the
capital
project
or
an
enterprise
fund,
and
so
those
different
items
you
guys
will
see
at
council
meetings
to
actually
approve
those
to
say
that
those
are
committed.
I
Can
we
change
our
mind
like,
let's
just
say
we
were
gonna
right
now?
If
we
agreed
to
5.5
million
for
parks
and
then
say:
oh
no,
we'll
just
give
them
4.5
we'll
give
some
more
money
to
trees.
Can
we
change
our
mind.
H
The
expenditure
policy
that
we're
kind
of
working
on
right
now,
that's
really
just
that
framework
that
we're
going
to
be
working
on.
I
would
say
once
the
council
actually
does
like
an
action
of
doing
a
transfer
train
approving
that
transfer
is
when
that
commitment
actually
happens
so
I'll.
Let
scott
kind
of
elaborate
a
little
bit
more
yeah.
G
I
think
the
example
of
the
parks
would
be
helpful
to
have
a
separate
conversation
if,
if
we
get
far
enough
along
in
today's
conversation
to
have
just
this
is
the
lift
of
park
project
that
we're,
anticipating,
of
which
then
some
will
have
immediate
transfers,
and
some
will
probably
be
a
few
months
down
the
road.
Beyond
that.
I
Well
sure,
obviously,
if
we've
already
spent
them
but
we'll
just,
but
we
could,
if
we
were.
H
D
Yeah
I
mean
what
is
commit.
I
mean
his
commitment
to
having
a
council
action
and
a
resolution.
That
would
be,
I
mean
if
we
voted
on
it,
then
it's
committed
for
that
that
type
of
funding,
but
if
we
agree
and
then
we
decided
that
we're
going
to
you
know
either
increase
the
funding
or
take
away
from
permit,
then
we
can
do
that
without
council
resolution.
Correct.
H
H
56
c
was
actually
the
item
number.
It
was
kind
of
laid
out
what
what
what?
What
was
that
50
going
to
be
spent
spent
on
for
property,
tax
relief
and
kind
of
gave
information.
E
J
H
The
sales
yes
and
then
it
kind
of
said
that
you
guys
were
looking
at
the
the
infrastructure
or
police
and
fire
expenditures,
it
kind
of
laid
out
what
what
what
the
council's
direction
was
on,
how
it
should
be
spent
and
that
we
needed
to
do
the
annual
report
for
council
as
well,
and
so
this
is
what
we're
kind
of
working
towards
is
actually
having
that
document
of
kind
of
saying.
This
is
what
we're
seeing
for
those
buckets,
but
then
each
individual
item
that
goes
forward
would
actually
have
to
get
approved.
D
H
No,
it
would
be
up
to
the
council,
so
if
so
right
now,
we
were
looking
at
monday
being
that
expenditure
policy
based
off
of
kind
of
the
input
that
we
received
and
the
discussion
that
council
has
had
kind
of
what
we
have
sitting
here.
But
if,
if
that
needs
to
get
changed,
it
would
just
be
another
council
action
to
change
that
expenditure
policy.
If
let's
say
you
were
deciding
to
shift
funds
from
you
know,
one-time
budgetary
support
to
economic
development
or
something
else.
D
G
H
One
of
the
big
things
that
we
we
have
wanting
to
go
forward
are
some
transfers
that
you
guys
will
see
on
monday
as
well.
That
you'll
see
are
within
the
like
parking
fund
is
a
good
example.
There's
a
3.5,
that's
one
where
they
got
hit,
yeah
they're
very
hard,
and
we
would
like
to
take
care
of
that
transfer
before
the
end
of
the
fiscal
year
and.
B
H
And
so
we
were
trying
to
take
that
that
expenditure
policy
framework
that
we
or
procedures
that
we
did
under
the
local
option
to
kind
of
apply
to
these
funds
as
well.
D
Yeah,
but
we
don't
even
know
what
what
projects
we're
even
considering
on
a
lot
of
these
things.
These
are
very
gender.
These
are
very
general
buckets.
That
is
just
you
know,
we're
we're
saying
that
we're
going
to
give
15
million
dollars
for
this
bucket,
but
we
really
don't
have
any
projects.
That's.
J
B
H
I
think
so
the
the
next
point,
the
last
point
that
I
wanted
on
this
particular
side,
is
kind
of
the
eligible
uses.
We've
usually
used
the
terms
of
restrictive
versus
non-restricted
and
the
best
way
to
kind
of
kind
of
talk
about
that
is
kind
of
those
infrastructure,
public
health,
negatively
economic
impacted.
H
Spends
the
and
then
the
non-restricted,
which
is
general
services
that
we
can
spend
it
on,
which
is
only
to
the
extent
of
revenue
losses
that
we
can
prove
or
or
report
to
the
department
of
treasury,
and
so
from
our
standpoint.
Not
just
what.
What
we're
going
to
kind
of
talk
about
here
is
the
the
different
buckets.
We
also
have
to
make
sure
that
these
funds
are
actually
falling
into
those
restricted
versus
non-restricted
funds.
H
B
H
One
that
we're
actually
showing
for
that
that
type
of
we
can
do
that
for
for
other
services
that
isn't
actually
directly
related
to
the
revenue
loss
itself.
It's
just
you
can
pay
for
general
services
up
to
the
dollar
amount
of
what
you
what
we
lost,
but
I
think
right
now
we
are
looking
at.
I
can't
remember
what
we
are
with
the
fiscal
year
21
since
we're
not
quite
done,
and
we
have
some
accruals
to
work
with,
but
the
first
two
fiscal
years,
we're
about
that
30
to
35
million
of
revenue
losses.
H
So
so
a
good
example
of
some
of
the
infrastructure
that
would
be
under
the
restricted
would
be
kind
of
the
the
broadband
and
sanitary
and
storm
sewer.
Work
would
be,
would
be
a
restricted
use
that
we
can
use
it
for
and
then,
but.
H
Up
to,
but
some
of
the
categories
that
we're
seeing
here
we're
using
those
as
as
general
services
that
fall
under
that
category,
that
we
would
be
able
to
spend
general
fund
money
on
if
it
isn't
doesn't,
relate
or
doesn't
fall
under
the
categories
of
restricted.
H
So
like
like
the
affordable
housing
for
low
and
moderate
income.
That
would
be
a
restricted
use
and
then,
but
something
like.
C
H
There's
different
things
like
qualified
census,
tracts
for
investments
that
would
fall
under
restricted,
spends
as
well
and
so
different
things
that
that
we're
going
to
kind
of
get
into
for
for
different
possibilities
to
spend
some
might
be
so
like
for
parks.
If
the
if
the
park
park
land
is
within
like
a
qualified
census
track
that
could
be
restricted,
but
if
it's
outside
then
it
would
be
a
non-restricted
cost
right.
C
H
Yeah
and
so
that's
why
it's
kind
of
hard
when
you
look
at
the
amounts
to
be
able
to
say
this
is
100
restricted
or
unrestricted,
it's
one
where
that's
going
to
be
on
us
when
we
go
to
report
and
track
what
we're
actually
spending
and
doing
whether
it
falls
under
the
restricted
realm
or
the
unrestricted
realm.
I
G
G
I
I
G
C
G
G
I
I
H
If
you,
if,
if
you
are
a
finance
based
person,
you
probably
will
go
right
into
adding
them
together,
they
do
not
equal
the
94.8
they're,
pretty
close,
and
that's
why
we
did
the
not
to
exceed
to
kind
of
give
us
a
little
bit
of
cushion
based
off
of
what
we
plan
to
do
versus
when
the
actual
expenses
go
out
the
door.
It's
fairly
close
to
that,
as
you
can
see
here,
infrastructure
improvements
is
kind
of
on
those.
H
Those
items
would
be
that
broadband
stormwater
sanitary
improvements
going
into
the
the
other
categories
that
we
have
here.
We
can
kind
of
go
in
into
the
detail
of
the
handout
that
we
have,
but
I
just
kind
of
want
to
run
through
kind
of
those
five
main
categories:
real,
quick
and
then
kind
of
we
go
back
to
each
one
and
actually
facilitate
that
that
discussion
between
the
council.
D
H
It's
one
where
we
could
technically
still,
if,
if
things
come
in,
where
we
commit
for
a
contract
and
there's
like
a
change
order
or
things
like
that
that
can
go
on
this
is
this
is
a
draft
right
now
and
and
from
that
standpoint
we
don't
want
to
commit
or
overcommit
on
what
we
like,
like
the
bottom
of
the
sheet,
says
it's
a
draft
as
of
the
today's
date,
but.
H
I'm
actually
we're
on
the
blue
letter,
I'm
which
are
a
little
higher
the
blue
letter
and
the
roll
call
that
you
guys
are
going
to
see
on
monday
is
actually
these
different
categories,
which
is
the
overall
category
the
specific
projects
under
those
we're
not
really
moving
forward
until
they
actually
go
back
for
council
approval.
So
like
a
good
example.
C
D
So
so
the
last
category
is
the
unrestricted
one
the
14.5
were.
Actually
things
were
affected
by
the
coping,
that's
revenue
was
lost
and.
H
I
I
think
you're
you,
I
think,
you're
kind
of
confusing
the
restricted
non-restricted.
Those.
G
E
D
G
H
G
G
A
H
This
goes
it.
The
this
that's
being
displayed
up
here
is
is
a
more
detailed
kind
of
idea
of
the
expen
that
beyond
what
is
going
that
it
would
be
brought
up
the
council
that
that's
on
that
expenditure
policy,
so
these
are
ones
where,
in
theory,
if
you
were
going
to
have
something
go
forward,
that
was
a
part
of
the
affordable
housing.
H
Let's
say
of
that
9
million,
if
there
is
an
allocation
of
2
million-
of
that,
you
might
see
that
as
a
contract
going
to
council
to
be
approved
as
a
as
a
funding
from
arba.
So
as
you
see
as
some
of
these
things
move
forward,
as
we
continue
the
discussion,
they
might
be
adjusted
if
the
amount
nazis
exceed
changes
drastically,
then,
yes,
we
would
have
to
come
to
council
for
a
change
to
that
expenditure
policy,
just
just
like
we
would
with
the
local
option.
H
D
Can
I
ask
what,
with
the
economic
development,
what
is
going
to
be
the
criteria?
That's
going
to
some
of
these
projects
that
are
going
to,
I
mean
we
go?
How
do
we
even
is
it
on?
Do
you
have
that
in
your?
Why
don't
we
go
top
to
bottom.
H
So,
okay,
so
from
the
very
top
you
have
the
infrastructure
improvements
that
we
have
from
allocation.
The
broadband
is
is,
is
one
item
that
is
restricted
in
nature,
water
contributions.
B
G
So
broadband
is
two
part
there
there's
going
to
be
an
opportunity
to
work
with
dmacc
and
some
of
the
actual
telecom
providers
to
get
more
education
out
to
lower
income,
neighborhoods
and
more
distressed
neighborhoods
that
either
don't
have
broadband
today
or
may
need
some
better
understanding
of
the
benefits
of
high-speed
internet.
Is
there.
A
G
What
might
have
been
high-speed
internet
10
years
ago?
Yes,
but
there
is
not.
The
key
here
is:
there's
not
fiber
to
the
homes
in
all
of
our
neighborhoods
right
now,
with
the
existing
providers.
It's
less
than
20
percent
of
our
neighborhoods
have
the
full
benefit
of
fiber
optics,
okay,
okay
and
so
go
ahead.
C
G
Yeah,
okay,
so
the
educational
piece
is,
is
part
of
that
and
that's
likely
to
not
be
more
than
three
or
four
hundred
thousand,
hopefully
even
less
than
that.
The.
E
G
I
want
to
give
them
some
time
again
about
a
year
to
see
what
their
final
build
out
is
going
to
look
like
and
if
there
are
any
neighborhoods
in
des
moines
that
are
going
to
be
underserved
and
not
have
the
same
fiber
network
if
they,
if
there
are
going
to
be
neighborhoods
unserved
I'd
like
to
put
at
least
a
million
dollars
of
this.
This
funding
on
the
table
with
an
rfp
process
to
say
we're
willing
to
put
a
million
dollars
towards
building
out
that
last
neighborhood
review.
G
A
J
G
Again,
there's
a
difference
here
between
internet
and
high
speed,
internet
and
I'd
have
to
look.
Is
it
20,
megs
up
and
down?
There's
I
can
get
you
that,
but
there's
there's
a
nationally
defined
high
speed
definition
and
over
half
well
probably
about
half
our
city's,
probably
not
heard
with
that
in
a
reliable
fashion.
Okay,.
G
K
E
G
C
J
G
D
Every
community
has
fiber
and
broadband,
and
I
mean
I
would
hope
that
we're
included
in
that
and
it's
not
just
rural
iowa.
G
H
The
next
item
under
that
is
is
water,
water
infrastructure.
This
may
be
working
with
the
des
moines
water
works
as
we
go
through
additional
street
projects.
There's
been
a
knee.
I
think,
there's
a
need
that
we
have
received
from
them
on
kind
of
the
level
of
infrastructure
that
we've
been
doing
as
a
city
and
them
being
able
to
do
their
water
lines
as
well
in
comparison
to
how
much
we're
doing
so.
G
G
J
J
A
C
So
joe
I
I've
got,
I
mean
I
get
what
you're
saying
I
I'm
willing
to
have
a
little
more
flexibility,
although
I
think
they
should
reimburse
there
is
another
problem
that
we
know
we
have
as
as
a
city
that
we
don't
have
a
solution
for
it's.
A
water
works
it's
somewhere
between
water
works
and
city,
in
the
sense
that
we
know
that
there
are
lead
service
lines
out
there.
That
are
just
fine
right
now,
right,
like
they're,
not
they're,
not
leeching
lead,
but
they're
old
service
lines.
C
C
If,
if
it's
not
a
revolving
loan
fund
or
an
ongoing
loan
fund,
that
dollars
could
be
used
to
address
lead
service
lines,
particularly
for
those
folks
who
are
low
income
and
would
not
be
able
to
afford
that
afford
the
replacement
of
the
water
service
line
to
their
house,
maybe
solves
your
need.
It
helps,
invest
in
our
neighborhoods,
helps
folks
out
and
and
is
fulfilling
perhaps
some
of
the
gap
that
exists
today.
C
D
I'm
completely
fine
with
helping
them
do
our
pace,
but
they
do
need
to
repay
and
revolving
loan,
and
we
can
that's
a
different
discussion
about.
You
know,
services
to
low-income
and
folks
that
aren't
able
to
pay
for
a
lead
pipe
going
to
their
home
that
that's
a
completely
different
discussion
that
that's
that's
more
than
we're
going
to
be
able
to
discuss
tonight.
But
I
understand
where
you're
coming
from,
but
I
do
I
still
that
you
can
make
it
a
revolving
loan
and,
if
they're
in
agreement
with
that,
that's
fine
are.
E
J
H
H
G
Okay,
no,
but
there
is
infrastructure
bill
funds
that
we're
working
through
with
our
legislators.
At
the
federal
level,
there
is
lead
pipe
replacement
on
available,
the
water
utilities
and
there's
an
issue.
There
would
all
be
that
work.
H
The
next
area
of
conversation
is
the
storm
water
allocation
based.
We
should
be
wrapping
up
that
city-wide
study
and
then
from
that
these
funds
could
go
towards
some
of
those
projects
that
we
have
on
those
priority
lists
that
they're
going
to
come
out
with
that.
So
this
is
currently
anticipated
for
for
those
type
of
projects.
L
D
L
The
analysis
on
the
on
the
city-wide
scale
breaks
it
up
into
74
different
areas
and
then
analyze
those
on
risk
of
failure,
likelihood
of
failure
and
consequence
of
failure.
So
those
places
that
where
there
is
more
to
damage,
will
have
risen
to
the
top.
Some
of
the
smaller
places
will
not
have
filtered
up
there,
but
we
also
have
a
path
to
fix
those
way.
Those
those
problem
areas
in
larger
watersheds
that
don't
have
the
same
problems
watershed
wide.
The
same
way.
L
We
we
set
aside
money
in
this
in
the
sanitary
sewer
master
plan
for
building
new
trunk
sewers,
but
then
also
there's
a
provision
made
for
providing
small
pieces
of
sewer
to
places
where
there
isn't
some
like
in
some
places
along
in
the
eastern
lake
neighborhood,
there
are
a
few
houses
still
left
on
on
on
septic
tanks,
and
in
that
master
plan
we
had
funding
for
the
big
projects
to
put
big
sewers
in
to
service
large
chunks
of
land.
L
We
also
set
aside
funding
for
small
projects
to
deliver
relief
to
residents
that
need
it
same
way
with
stormwater
master
plan.
There's
looking
basin
wide
74
different
watersheds
spread
across
the
city,
where
we
know
there
are
localized
problems,
we
have
a
separate
bucket
so
to
speak.
That
will
be
set
aside
to
solve
those
problems.
G
D
A
C
C
H
With
those
kind
of
being
covered
together,
I'll
go
down
to
the
the
social,
environmental,
justice,
services
and
social
determinants
of
health,
there's
a
lot
of
different
categories.
Our
different
projects
within
within
this
broader
category.
H
Obviously,
the
largest
one
I'll
touch
on
first
is
that
northside
community
center,
the
grub
ymca
that
one
is
at
the
99.5
million
dollars
for
that
that
particular
project.
The
additional
funding
that
we
have
that
we
have
committed
for
that
project
was
from
geo
bonding
as
well,
so
in
combination
that
would
be
with
the
funding
for
that
project.
K
G
H
Yeah
we
have
12
million
for
the
construction,
then
we
also
have
two
another
2.3
million
ish
of
either
geo
bonds
or
local
option
funds
that
are
going
into
that
as
well.
So
in
total
we
have
14.3,
but
12
million
is
what
we
have
allocated
for
the
cost
of
of
construction
and.
D
I
For
the
community
center
project
does
that
do
we
have?
I
can't
remember
if,
if
we
have
to
acquire
land,
also.
H
B
H
H
Right
kind
of
a
sub
kind
of
point
point
to
the
the
north
side:
community
center
too,
is
the
the
pal
or
second
chance
in
the
building
as
well.
That's
kind
of
kind
of
programming,
type
of
thought
within
that
as
well.
We
kind
of
separated
that
out
as
its
own
separate
item
perfect,
I
realize
I
skipped
the
cultural
centers
in
the
community
culture
centers
that
we
that
are
around
the
city,
I'm
can't
elaborate.
G
I
can
speak
to
that.
That's
the
thai
dam
and-
and
there
have
been
some
other
requests-
that
I
have
not
a
chance
to
vet
with
you
guys
on
potential
community
or
culture
centers
across
the
city
and
they're
small
requests.
G
K
If
you
go
back,
the
asian
population
were
often
blamed
and
they
have
suffered
a
lot
of
damage
and
a
lot
of
vandalism
and
fires
at
their
center
because
they
were
targeted,
specifically
targeted,
as
you
know,
because
of
covid,
and
so
that's
why
they
came
and
asked
for
some
help
with
getting
a
fence
and
getting
some
things
done
just
so
they
can.
You
know
it's
set
it's
tucked
back
there,
but
they're
constantly
getting
you
know.
K
D
J
F
A
G
G
K
F
Yeah,
I
just
wanted
to
know
how
we
would
do
that
because
you
know
who
are
they
getting
this
from,
and
who's
gonna
install
and
all
those
kind
of
things
if
we're
putting
money
into
it?
I
just
wanted
to
make
sure
that,
because
with
the
cost
going
up,
I
mean
I
don't
know
what
that
would
be,
but
I
just
wanted
to
understand
what
the
process,
because
there
is
like
you,
said
another
hundred.
F
So
what
is
that
going
to
be
or
somebody
you
know,
some
groups
are
trying
to
do
a
building,
but
they
don't
have
enough
so
until
they
would
have
the
full
funding
and
what
are
we
asking
the
tai
dong?
How
much
more
are
they
paying
to
help
be
part
of
it,
since
they
do
own
it
too?
So
whatever
that
number
is
just
to
have
accountability,
I
don't
know
what
the
treasury
will
mean.
D
H
Library
is
kind
of
a
two-part
one
is
the
kind
of
like
the
hotspot
checkout
type
thing
that
they.
H
To
and
then
I
think
it
was
some
additional
projects
within
the
library
that
that
had
to
get
pushed
out
because
of
cost
of
projects
that.
H
The
next
item
was
that
violence
prevention,
the
the
look
of
that
there
was
for
the
cure
violence,
commitment
that
we
have.
This
was
trying
to
look
at
a
different
funding
source
for
for
the
cure,
violence
and
free
up
funds
for
for
other
projects
as
well.
B
G
H
B
J
A
D
Is
it
still
only
going
to
focus
in
three
years
I've
seen
the
report
on
the
news.
I
know
they're
looking
at
expanding
it,
but
I
is
it
just
the
area
that
they're
going
to
focus
on
and
they're
going
to
stay
there
for
three
years
for
this,
for
this
amount
or
are
they
expanding
it
within
the
next
three
years?.
C
D
G
H
Yeah,
the
next
item-
that's
on
that
list
is
child
care
with
that,
that's
obviously
a
broader
discussion,
but
I
think
at
this
point
we
were
looking
at
five
million
for
anything
that
would
kind
of
relate
under
that
category.
G
G
K
G
K
C
One
and
I
think
council
member
bozen
could
probably
address
this
better
than
I
can,
but
my
understanding
is
that
one
of
the
benefits
of
funding
this
with
des
moines
public
school
versus-
maybe
some
of
the
others-
is
the
program
that
we
provide
funding
for,
gets
them
the
upfront
cost
and
then
they
then
are
able
to
draw
down.
I
think
federal
dollars
that
will
allow
its
federal
or
state
dollars
it's
leveraged.
C
That
will
allow
them
to
continue
the
program
after
our
investment,
and
that
is
unique,
and
we
we
probably
cannot
find
a
lot
of
other
opportunities
where
we
can
leverage
our
investment
to
lead
to
something
that
will
draw
down
dollars
and
create
a
more
permanent
and
stable
source
of
funding.
So
that's
correct,
I'm
willing
to
explore
other
options,
but
I
do
really
like
the
fact
that
that
that
investment
allows
us
to
draw
down
and
create
a
more
sustainable
program.
G
A
F
I
Away
that
the
the
the
child
care
program
could
continue
right
because.
K
I
would
just
hope
that
the
school
district
would
reach
out
to
council
and
maybe
have
another
conversation
about
how
the
city
and
the
schools
are
going
to
work
together,
because
I
don't
we've
tried
that
I
can
comment.
F
On
it
they
have
reached
out.
I
think
the
in
between
with
everything
that's
turned
over,
that
I
have
you
know
that
we
can
set
up
something,
but
I
think
in
this
case
I'm
preschool
every
year
a
child
takes
the
advantage
or
apparently
get
to
work.
This
is
a
workforce
issue
as
much
as
getting
kids
into
a
quality
program.
F
H
The
next
category
that
we
have
here
is
educational
support.
Those
are
dollars
that
some
of
the
things
that
we've
got
discussed
on
that
one
would
be
the
the
dmacc
and
uni
partnership
that
we
had
talked
about.
I
think
it
was
within
the
last
month
or
so,
and
then
also
maybe
specific.
G
This
this
one
also
has
the
scholarship
he
said.
G
Form
so
we've
got
four
entities
that
provide
that
so
there's
a
potential
to
put
one
million
of
this
1.5
board
scholarship
to
the
four
entities
that
provide
post,
8
post
12
education
in
des
moines.
You.
J
C
I
I've
struggled
with
how
the
the
particular
purpose
of
this,
but
also
some
of
the
other
things
down
on
the
list.
I
would
like
to
allocate
more
dollars
towards
so
I'm
not
going
to
make
a
case
to
allocate
more
dollars
without
identifying
places
where
I
would
maybe
take
dollars.
C
I
think
we
need
more
allocated
in
our
housing
bucket
and
then
a
couple,
others,
the
the
sidewalk
gap
and
the
the
trees
were
a
couple
other
places
that
that
I'd
been
hoping
to
see
a
larger
allocation
based
on
conversation.
C
This
is
one
of
the
areas
where
I
would
where
I
would
maybe
take
a
chunk
from
this
area
and
reallocate
it
to
those
other
areas.
D
You
know
josh
and
I
have
recently
talked
a
little
bit
and
I've
talked
to
carl
and
linda
the
trail
portion,
and
I
I've
had
a
conversation
with
ben
we've.
Got
a
we've
got
a
trail
system.
The
gailey
wilson
trail
on
the
east
side
that
connects
to
nowhere
and
it's
it's
a
very
small
portion
that
can
connect
the
whole
eastern
side
of
our
city
to
everything,
and
I
just
believe
that
some.
D
This
is
a
once
in
our
lifetime
opportunity
that
we
can
get
that
done,
and
I
I
believe
that
now's
the
time
to
do
it
and
I'm
hoping
to
to
have
some
support
to
do
that.
It's
not
that
long
of
a
stretch,
and
I
don't
want
to
wait
until
the
the
mlk
is
done.
There's
there's
a
way
to
to
do
it
differently.
That's
probably
a
lot
better
than
having
people
drive.
D
You
know
riding
down
a
busy
road
and
I
I'd
like
to
allocate
probably
more
to
the
trails
and
sidewalks
I
would
agree
with
josh
for
that
particular
instance.
Now
I
don't
know
what
bucket
we're
going
to
take
from.
I
don't
know,
I
mean
2.5
million
dollars
worth
of
trees.
That
seems
like
a
lot
of
trees.
I
mean
I
I
don't
know
I
don't
know.
D
D
I
guess
I
just
you
know
a
lot
of
this
in
it
this
these
dollars-
and
I've
mentioned
this
to
scott
needs
to
be
spread
out
for
our
entire
city,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
if
it's
broken
down
by
ward
of
how
we're
going
to
allocate
some
of
this.
You
know
you
know,
ward,
one
automatically
is
getting
12
million
dollars,
fine,
that's
great,
they
need
a
new
community
center
and
I'm
fine
with
that
and
I'm
happy
to
be
supportive
of
that.
D
But
you
know
I'm
also
representing
the
people
in
ward
4,
and
I
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
going
to
get
our
fair
share
of
of
our
dollars,
because
this
is
a
once-in-a-lifetime
opportunity
and
I
and
I
just
want
to
make
that
clear-
that
it
would
be
nice
to
see
how
how
this
is
impacting
each
award
and
where
these
dollars
are
allocated
in
each
ward.
Now
you're
not
going
to
be
able
to
do
that
for
the
housing,
because
I
know
that
we
don't
have
all
the
specific
projects.
D
But
you
know
I
I'll
say
it
and
and
I've
said
it
publicly
and
I've
said
it
on
in.
In
my
in
my
ward,
at
the
neighborhood
meetings
we
have
our
share
of
affordable
housing
on
the
south
side
on
the
southeast
side.
We
have
all
of
our
share
there
and
I
and
I'm
telling
you
and
I've
and
I've
said
it
to
my
colleagues-
I'm
not
in
favor
of
putting
more
affordable
or
low-income
housing
on
the
south
side.
D
D
Okay.
Now,
if
we
want
to
do
rehab
to
some
of
the
facilities
that
we've
got,
you
know
our
our
our
homes
in
the
area
that
I
represent
are
affordable
housing,
but
they
need
help
putting
money
back
into
those
homes
and
rehabbing
them.
I'm
finding
that
you
know
I
struggle
with
building
61
homes
on
the
southwest
side
for
habitat
humanity,
where
we
can
we're
going
to
put
streets
in
we're
going
to
put
infrastructure
in
and
we're
going
to
allow
them
to
go.
D
So
I
mean
I've
said
it
many
times,
I'm
you
know
I
get
criticized
from
the
people
that
don't
live
on
the
southeast
side,
because
everybody
that
does
live
on
the
southeast
side.
I
am
speaking
for
them
and
they
do
agree
with
me,
and
so
I
just
I
want
to
make
that
very
clear
that
if
we're
looking
at
this
and
we're
looking
at
the
green
space
that
we
have
available
in
our
city
and
that's
what
we
plan
on
doing
with
some
of
this
money,
I
I'm
I'm
a
no
vote.
G
C
C
That's
fine,
our
city
needs
more
of
it
period
and
and
we
better.
C
Went-
and
there
are
places
we
can-
we
can
go
vertical
right.
We've
got
a
project
that
you
know
at
our
last
council
meeting.
We
had,
I
think,
15,
workforce
housing,
tax
credit
projects,
I'm
not
sure
if
all
of
those
will
get
built,
but
I
think
we
ought
to
work
to
try
and
make
sure
that
they
do
get
built
a
lot
of
those
were
in
the
third
ward.
C
C
I
think
we
need,
I
think
we
need
places
downtown
too,
where
we
build
multi-family
and
we
can
buy
down
affordability
so
that
multi-family
projects
that
we
are
building
have
a
range
of
options
within
them.
It
goes
to
what
you
were
saying
we
that
we
were
not
segregating,
affordable,
we're
incorporating
that
into
into
projects,
and
I
think
we
can
use
these
dollars
to
accomplish
that,
and
we
should.
C
I
think
we
should
also
look
at
other
other
options
as
well
other
things
that
we
can
do
and
if
that
means
how
we
rehab
affordable
homes,
we
should
do
that,
but
I
think
I
think
the
the
housing
dollars
are
in
my
mind.
I
think
we
we
should
be
trying
to
do
more
there.
You
know,
I
think
the
county
is
looking
the
county
allocated
at
around
15
million.
A
C
D
C
C
Have
every
opportunity
to
have
your
say,
but
the
big
piece
is
to
make
sure
that
we
get
dollars
in
there
and
we
work
to
address
what
is
a
major
long-term
need
in
our
community
and
one
that
we
see
in
other
places
if
they
don't
get
their.
If
we
don't,
if
we
are
not
proactive
about
trying
to
provide
more
housing
solutions,
this
problem
is
only
going
to
get
more
challenging
and
more
difficult
to
solve.
A
C
G
G
G
J
C
G
From
the
input
I
was
getting
from
people,
so
if
I
didn't
get
enough
input
from
you,
okay,
that's
what
I'm
asking
for
now
is
that
you,
if
you
want
more
here,
then
then
I've
got
to
find
some
place
to
take
it
out
of.
I
guess:
let's
go
through
these
others,
the
solar
panels.
I
missed
one.
Yes,
I
did
a
couple
food
insecurity.
There
are
three
entities
that
have
specifically
asked
for
funds.
G
We
have
meals
on
wheels
dmarc
and
the
silt
program,
which
may
need
some
more
information
to
share
with
you.
Silt
is
a
a
non-profit
that
helps
put
available
land
with
potential
urban
farming
groups,
so
think
about
some
of
the
issues
we've
had
before
with
needing
an
acre
here,
maybe
two
or
three
acres
close
to
the
urban
area
that
can
be
for
edibles.
Only
we're
not
talking
about
marketing
outside
of
the
des
moines,
we're
talking
about
vegetables
and
and
and
fruits,
and
things
of
that
nature
that
can
be
formed
locally.
K
I
I
and
I
I
think,
that'll
be
an
interesting
discussion.
I'm
a
strong
supporter
of
meals
on
wheels.
I
think
I
know
I
know
that
we
don't
want
any
children
to
go
hungry,
but
we
also
have
adults
out
there
that
are
completely
isolated,
have
no
way
to
get
meals
and
meals
on
wheels
really
does
offer
a
great
service
to
many.
B
K
D
C
C
D
Yeah
that
that's
and
then,
when
you
talk
about
when
we
talk
about
trails,
scott
is
this:
is
this
4.5
million
additional
revenue
on
top
of
what
we've
already
in
sidewalks
on
top
of
auras,
just
from
replacing
the
geo
bonds?
So
it
really
isn't
any
truly
a
new
stuff.
Is
that
is
that
what
we're
is
that?
What
we're
doing
here
or
are
we
actually
going
to
put
4.5
additional
money
for,
on
top
of
what
we've
already
have
allocated
to
do
other
stuff.
H
D
C
On
the
sidewalks,
we
didn't
hit
the
funding
level
on
the
sidewalks
the
priority
one
sidewalk
gaps
that
that
I
I
was
hoping
that
we
were
going
to
hit
during
our
our
last
budget.
I
mean
we're.
Actually
I
thought
a
cut
from
the
commitment
that
we
had
made.
I
mean
we
weren't
even
hitting
three
million
a
year,
and
so
this
was
designed
to
go
a
little
further
and
we've
got.
C
C
D
K
All
kinds
of,
but
I
want
to
see
that
that
priority
one
because
you
know
we
had
a
child
that
was
killed
over
on
east
university
and
three
of
us
walked
that
trail
and
we're
sending
kids
home
from
school
that
have
to
walk
through
grass
and
there's
no
sidewalks
that
I
looked
and
they're
not
even
on
the
priority.
How
is
that
possible.
K
D
G
That
one
is
not
that
one
is
to
allow
for
the
the
discussion
earlier
about
needing
capacity
on
the
debt
side
to
issue
10
million
for
the
airport
authority,
and
so
I've
asked
ben
to
provide
a
list
of
parks
projects
that
has
a
mix
of
some
new
capacity
which
most
of
it
is
identified
in
the
vip
over
the
next
three
years.
C
D
But
we're
already
we're
not
bonding
for
the
north
side
communities.
So
that's
never
were,
though
we
were
going
to
use
sales
tax
dollars
right,
so
we
can
use
the
sales
tax
dollars
of
that
10
million
to
to
use
for
the
parks,
so
that
would
free
up
the
projects
that
he
already
has.
If
you
you,
I
mean
that
would
pay
for
the
projects
that
he
has
already.
H
Yeah,
I
believe
I
think
birdland
marina
was
was
one
of
those
additions
to
the
local
option
that
we
moved
this
9.5
out
of
arpa,
so
that
that
freed
up
some.
I
think
it
was
three.
It
was
three
different
allocations
of
two
million
each
to
we
committed.
H
Well,
the
original
allocation
was
the
12
million
from
local
option.
It
was
over
the
course
of
three
two
four
years,
so
it
was.
It
was
three
million
a
year
until
when
we
actually
went
to
doing
this
at
the
9.5
it
freed
up
dollars
to
go
towards
birdland.
K
D
But
but
center
street
isn't
going
to
get
done,
so
I
mean
we're
going
to
spend
money
up
in
berlin.
Marine
spend
50
million
and
that
dam
and
center
street
might
not
get
done
for
10
more
years.
If
ever
and
so
the
attraction,
isn't
it's
not
going
to
go
that
way,
it's
going
to
go
down
the
raccoon,
so
you
just
got
to
keep
that
in
mind.
K
K
D
K
D
J
G
My
time
interest
of
time
I
I
anticipated
we
would
need
another
discussion
just
about
the
housing.
How
about
we
bring
back
the
list
of
the
parks
as
well
yeah
that
next
discussion,
so
we
can
focus
on
those
two
discussions.
How
would
we
further
allocate
the
parks,
funds
and
the
the
housing,
and
we
can
address
the
rest
of
these,
the
next
five
or
seven
minutes?
Maybe
that
all
right
right.
G
The
next
one
is
kind
of
challenging,
because
I
got
to
go
back
up
to
basic
income,
because
I
understand
that
some
of
you
have
had
conversations
with
the
non-profit
mid-iowa
health
foundation.
G
They
have
put
together
a
group
of
local
governments
with
the
county
and,
I
believe,
even
maybe
another
suburb
that
was
interested
and
several
other
non-profits
to
put
together
some
a
stimulus
program
that
would
be
studied
by
professional
academia
that
have
done
this
in
other
places
across
the
country
and
what
it
essentially
amounts
to
is
a
four
or
five
hundred
dollar
monthly
payment
to
low-income
families.
G
To
give
them
the
stability
to
pay
their
bills
and
then
track
that
for
up
to
a
two
year
period
is
what
they
preferred
to
show
all
the
benefits
of
having
a
amount
of
income
that's
guaranteed
and
that
that
is
making
sure
that
they
can
get.
I.
D
A
D
We
could
not
pay
for
people
to
stay
home
anymore.
I
I'm
fine
with
food
insecurity,
I'm
fine
with
helping
folks
with
child
care,
so
they
can
work.
I
am
not
okay
with
paying
people
to
stay
home
anymore,
that
that
has
to
end
because,
right
now
the
job
market
is
is
wide
open.
You
can
go,
get
a
job,
making
20
25
30
an
hour.
It's
not
it's,
not
a
minimum
wage
job
that
market's
not
out
there
anymore
and
to
pay
people
to
stay
home,
but
absolutely
not,
and
that's.
G
G
D
C
None
of
none
of
the
things
that
we
are
doing,
there's
a
greater
need
in
every
single
area.
The
idea
behind
a
study
is
to
look
at
the
impact
of
a
policy
in
a
method
of
delivering
delivering
benefit
and
what
that
does
from
an
impact.
The
number
of
people
that
would
get
to
participate
in
this
is
relatively
small
110,
and
I
believe
that
that
that
could
say
110
people.
J
C
G
D
G
So
that's
not
the
only
opportunity
for
the
this
line.
Item
impact
is
looking
at
a
program
that
assists
the
families
that
are
coming
in
for,
like,
like.
G
D
G
D
G
F
The
deal
is
too
and
yes,
there's
a
lot
of
people
that
are
working
that
are
working
for
and
you
still
can't
make
ends
meet,
and
this
is
a
trial
project
that,
from
what
I
understand
to
say,
how
can
we
better
serve
people?
So
it's
not
for
people
to
stay
home.
It's
really,
for
you
know,
people
a
lot
of
people
are
working,
they
just
don't
have
enough
food
and
they
don't
have
enough
to
cover
the
rent.
F
So
I
think
that
it's
on
this
case
with
the
pilot
project,
I'm
having
trouble
hearing
some
of
you
guys
so,
but
I
think
it's
not
geared
for
people
to
stay
home.
It's
the
year
to
be
that
bridge
that
aren't
making
it
day-to-day.
G
Yeah
all
right,
so
the
last
item
on
here
is
youth
programming.
This
is
one
where
boys
and
girls
club
have
indicated
a
willingness
to
help
with
youth
summer
cleanup
or
other
jobs
that
can.
F
Of
what
I,
after
we
had
the
incidents
at
the
school,
that
was
a
way
where
we
realized
that
young
people
that
are
14
and
15
have
very
limited
opportunities
to
work
and
boys
and
girls.
Clubs
are
in
like
at
least
three
middle
schools
or
four
oak
ridge
has
middle
school
programs
and
also
urban
dreams,
and
basically
his
clique
for
giving
kids
something
to
do
this
summer.
F
I
got
to
20
hours
a
week
and
have
teams
go
out
and
clean
up
the
city
working
with
public
works
to
provide
the
bags,
the
vest
so
as
a
way
to
get
some
money
into
young
people's
hands
and
show
them
and
then
also
have
some
words
of
what
that
forever
trees.
Hopefully
good
lessons
on
how
to
save
money,
how
to
utilize
money
and
just
be
an
opportunity
for
kids
to
earn
some
money
to
get
the
things
that
they
need.
D
And
that
program
probably
needs
to
be
expanded.
Eight
hundred
thousand
isn't
probably
enough
that
we
need
to
be
given
this
dollars
for
youth
that
we're
we're
losing
our
youth
in
in
our
in
our
community
in
our
in
our
country
and
if
we
don't
get
a
hold
of
them
and
and
show
them
right
wrong
how
to
work,
how
to
do
things.
D
We
got
big
problems,
and
so
I
have
no
problem
with
youth
programming
and
as
long
as
it's
used
correctly
and
it's
used
through
the
right
programs
and
and
they're
directed
in
the
right
way
yeah.
I
would
think
that
that
would
be
a
really
good
program.
But
when
you
look
at
basic
income,
let's,
let's
look
at
mcdonald's
mcdonald's
is
paying
people
15
bucks
an
hour
fifteen
dollars
an
hour
to
start,
and
you
guys
want
to
talk
about
12
or
13
dollars.
There's
nobody
paying
anybody
12
or
13
an
hour
in
this
city
anymore.
C
D
D
D
C
D
Hey
josh
me
and
my
wife
work
two
jobs,
our
entire,
our
our
entire,
my
wife
when
she
decided
to
have
another
child.
That's
that's
the
last
time
and
she
still
works
two
jobs.
A
lot
of
people
have
to
work,
two
jobs
or
survive;
okay,
that's
part
of
life
and
that's
the
problem
with
this
society.
Right
now
and
we
can
sit
here
and
have
this
discussion
out
in
front
of
everyone.
D
C
F
I
think
a
lot
of
different
groups
have
been
sending
things
into
individual
councils
and
I
think
that
the
manager
has
got
individuals
and
I
think,
there's
some
additional
information
that
we
need
now
that
we
know
like.
Is
it
additional
money,
that's
going
into
like
the
sidewalks
or
trails,
and
what
are
the
specifications
of
some
of
these
groups
asking
for
money?
Was
it
really
going
for
that?
F
We
might
need
more
detail
on,
so
I'm
just
throwing
that
out,
but
I
think
overall,
these
are
some
of
the
areas
we're
going
at
and
then
what
is
the
more
finite
information
that
we
need
I'll
just
throw
that
out.
Because
again,
I
think
there's
you
know,
I
didn't
even
know
what
filt
was
so
it's
like
some
of
these
explanations
would
be
helpful
and
I'm
sure
that
more
detail
on
some
of
these
expenditures.
A
C
Kind
of
said
it
would
be
helpful,
I'll,
try
and
summarize.
It
would
be
helpful
to
have
more
information
on
some
of
the
detail
in
these
items.
She
understands
the
buckets
but
additional
detail
on
on
some
of
the
specific,
particularly
where
there
were
individual
projects
that
folks
maybe
have
not
have
not
heard
about
if
they,
because
a
lot
of
this
I
think,
came
directly
to
the
to
the
manager,
because
folks
did
not
present
to
us
so
well,.
I
J
K
D
I
C
J
D
G
The
contribution
to
the
stadium
at
the
moment
is
if
funds,
and
so
that's
only
when
it's
they
generate
the
private
taxable
properties,
and
what
this
will
help
do
is
conditional
environmental
for
the
for
the
public
space
because
part
of
the
design.
E
K
G
C
I
mean,
I
think,
part
of
our
long-term
vision
needs
to
be.
How
do
we
figure
out?
How
do
we
get
folks
back
in
investing
in
the
corridors,
and
I
don't
think
sprinkling?
A
small
amount
of
money
on
tearing
down
buildings
and
corridors
adds
anything
or
meets,
meets
a
need.
I
think
we
should
be
more
proactive
with
those
dollars,
so
I
I
would
support
investing
more
of
those
dollars
in
things
that
meet
immediate
needs.
D
Well,
if
you
I
mean
if
we
have
an
urban,
a
tif
area
through
a
corridor
and
someone
has
a
project,
but
they
don't
have
the
money
to
take
down
whatever's
there.
It
happens
a
lot.
Yes,
then
this
money
could
be
used
for
that.
So
then
they
can
put
their
they
can
put
their
project
in
and
then
it
would
generate
taxable
dollars
instead
of
a
vacant
building
right.
C
If
yeah,
if
they
were
doing
tiff,
but
I
mean
the
type
of
thing
that
I
would
support,
if
this
was
used
to
tear
down
projects
to
facilitate
a
new
project,
I
I
would
be
more
comfortable
with
it
if
this
is
just
used
to
tear
down
an
existing
building,
because
it's
underutilized
but
there's
nothing,
it
comes
after.
I
don't
think
that's
a
good
use
of
dollars.
No,
I
don't
think
that's
a
good
use
either.
D
C
K
I
think
there's
you
know:
we've
talked
about
our
vacant
building
ordinance
and
I
agree
with
what
you're
saying
josh
we
took
down
wallace
school.
It
cost
us
lots
and
lots
of
money
to
take
down
and
that
land
is
still
there
vacant
and
it's
still
owned
by
somebody
out
on
the
east
coast
and
there's
not
a
darn
thing.
We
can
do
it
right
and
and
that's
too
bad,
but
we've
got
other
buildings
like
the
building
that
you
know
came
before
council
a
few
months
ago,
that
was
full
of
graffiti
and
it's
falling
down.
K
K
D
D
D
Depends
on
what
it
is
I
mean.
There's
I
mean
there's
a
couple
of
properties.
I
can
think
of
that,
probably
just
before
down
into
the
middle
of
a
neighborhood
that
that's
whatever
is
never
going
to
probably
be
a
commercial
property
that
probably
should
go
and
should
have
gone
a
long
time
ago,
but
yeah
I
mean
I
could.
I
can
see
some
of
those
that
are
in
my
ward,
that.
G
H
So
from
that,
it's
the
we
were
trying
to
do.
The
initial
thought
of
that
would
have
been
that
about
6
million
on
the
existing
contributions
given
the
time
frame
of
arpa
and
then
having
the
additional
4.5
being
additional
projects
within
dc
nfc
beyond
what
our
normal
annual
contribution
is
and.
K
C
K
I
just
had
I
just
was
in
a
conversation
with
with
nfc.
I
just
came
from
there
and
and
they're
still
waiting
for
their
28
e
agreement.
That
is
due
by
the
end
of
june,
and
we
just
I
think
legal-
has
it
now
and
they're
going
to
extend
it,
but
these
companies,
some
of
these
people,
cannot
use
federal
funds.
K
C
M
K
D
C
C
I've
been
gone
for
two
minutes.
Well,
no,
but
even
before
I
think,
for
example,
the
universal
basic
income
program.
You
sent
all
of
us
an
email
on
may
13th
about
that.
C
K
E
Yeah
mayor
protem,
chris
johansen
neighborhood
service
director,
the
existing
28e
agreement
is
for
non-federal
funds
right,
so
if
they
wanted
anything
additional
outside
of
that,
we'd
have
to
discuss
with
them
what
the
requirements
would
be
federal
requirements
that
they're
usually
used
to
have
income
restrictions.
Other
other
barriers,
that's
going
to
hurt
their
program,
so
I
think
it
matters
what
they
want
to
use
the
funds
for.
That's
why.
G
K
People
are
just
interested
in
getting
into
home,
so
whatever
we
need
to
do,
you
know
when
you're,
a
home,
buyer
and
you're
you're
looking
at
nfc,
and
you
can't
really
buy
anything.
That's
not
energy
efficiency
these
days.
So
let's,
let's
have
that
conversation
thanks
chris.
I
just
want
to
make
sure.
G
B
H
No,
it
was
one
where
I
think
we
allocated
some
of
the
cdbg
funds
to
it,
and
so
it
was
very
restricted
of
nature.
We
did
free
up
more
unrestricted
type
funds
in
the
first
phase
of
340,
so
this
would
just
be
a
phase
two.
So
it's
not
in
an
annual
allocation
at
this
time.
So
you're.
H
D
H
The
we
got
away
from
the
requirements
under
the
cdbg,
whether
I.
D
H
We'll
have
to
work
with
aaron
olson,
nobody.
H
Yeah,
that's
the
340
was
the
first
phase
of
this
program
without
the
so.
H
We
won't,
I
don't
know
what
the.
J
G
This
as
well
discussions
that
we've
had
with
with
homework.
M
Too
hi
my
name
is
angie
arthur
I'm
executive
director
of
homework.
We
are
the
regional
planning
organization
for
homelessness
in
polk
county.
We
help
administer
4.5
million
dollars
in
federal
funds
on
an
annual
basis
through
the
continuum
of
care
project
and
in
partnership
with
the
city
of
des
moines
for
emergency
solutions
grants.
We
also
help
set
community
standards
for
the
funding,
so
part
of
those
dollars
would
be
for
that,
as
well
as
supporting
community
caseworker
roles
that
we
are
working
in
partnership
with
the
county
on
as
well.
M
Organization
completely
so
central
shelter
services
is
our
lead
shelter
in
their
community,
but
their
service
provider.
We
are
the
regional
planning
organization,
so
working
with
hud
helping
to
apply
for
additional
grants
within
the
community
when
we
applied
for
funding
for
the
youth
homelessness
demonstration
project,
facilitating
those
funds
bringing
in
1.865
million
dollars
into
the
community,
as
well
as
working
with
local
funding
organizations
and
foundations
as
well
to
bring
additional
dollars
in
the
community
to
focus
on
as.
M
Yes,
there,
central
iowa
shelter
services
is
part
of
that.
We
work
with
all
the
service
providers
within
the
community
primary
health
care,
with
centralized
intake,
anawam
housing
with
permanent
supportive
housing,
iowa
homeless,
youth
center,
with
youth
programs
specific
to
that
children
and
families
in
iowa
for
domestic
violence
shelters,
as
well
as
other
community
partners
that
participate
home
inc
and
worked
with
us
in
our
homeless
prevention
programs.
D
M
Still
participate
in
our
conversations.
We
do
not
have
any
funding
that
goes
to
those
organizations,
but
as
they
are
service
providers
within
our
community,
we
still
invite
them
to
participate
in
our
in
our
meetings
that
we
have.
We
have
monthly
meetings
with
different
communities,
performance
measures,
community
with
coordinated
services,
with
a
variety
of
other
services
communities
in
partnership
with
other
service
providers,
where
we
talk
about
veterans,
homelessness,
youth,
homelessness,
chronic
homelessness,
as
well
as
family
meetings.
All
those
type
of
things
are
facilitated
to
our
organization.
G
A
G
G
What
it's
a
three-year
assistance,
and
so
it's
a
hundred
and
fifty
thousand
years
three
years
of
content.
D
We're
doubling
it
over
three
years
that
is
correct,
and
then
what
happens
after
the
three
years?
Are
we
staying
with
150
000
out
of
the
general
funds.
D
At
this
point-
and
this
is
all
just
for
staffing.
M
Part
of
it's
for
staffing,
but
also
part
of
that
is
a
commitment-
that's
also
being
made
in
partnership
with
polk
county,
to
create
two
community
caseworker
positions
that
will
also
help
in
for
a
two-year
pilot
to
focus
on
folks
that
are
are
homeless
and
helping
get
them
connected
to
employment
as
well
as
housing,
because
lots
of
times
someone
needs
case
management.
D
And
what's
polk
county
what's
their
contribution
with
for
this
150.
M
000
both
will
be
that
150
000
from
both
entities
will
allow
us
to
run
two
staff
members
for
the
program
for
two
years
and
be
able
to
have
computers
to
purchase.
For
those.
Obviously,
a
little
add
in
a
little
bit
of
support,
maybe
about
ten
dollars
of
support
to
help
things
to
pay
like
application
fees
and
things
along
that
line.
K
Scott,
we
had
talked
about
some
income
for
for
the
mental
health
services
over
at
the
new
york.
Yes
complex,
but
I
don't
see
where
that
fits
in
here.
J
D
J
How
much
is
it
250.
J
A
C
I
So,
scott
or
nick,
when
you
add
up
what's
on
the
sheet,
how
close
to
94.8
million
just
down.
J
F
G
D
A
G
D
Just
parks
there's
lots
of
things
in
it.
We
got
94
million
in
don't
zero
in
on
the
5.5
for
just
part.
So
there's
there's
lots
of
dollars
in
here.
I'm
I'm
asking.
I
understand
what
you're
saying
about
parks,
but
there's
lots
of
dollars
in
here.
So
I'm
asking
you
what
what
once
this
is
all
allocated,
and
this
is
gone.
K
Better
look
this
in
because
I'm
not
going
to
vote
for
a
tax
increase.
I.
H
We're
modeling
the
what
we
had
talked
about
that
councilman
vos
brought
up
is
the
airport
is
one
thing
that
is
not
currently
in
our
debt
planning
and
so
from
that.
H
If
we
avoid
bond
issuances
to
be
able
to
incur
that,
we
would
still
be
in
the
same
position
that
we
are
today
and
from
that
standpoint
we
have
to
look
at,
and
we
do
this
through
every
budget
process
and
when
we
present
that
budget,
we
we
do
go
through
and
look
at
what
we
have
for
our
our
debt
limits
and
and
determine
how
close
we
are
to
the
council
policy,
which
is
80
of
our
legal
debt
margin
and
then
also
where
we
are
sitting
and
where
we
anticipate
our
debt
levy
needing
to
be,
and
one
thing
that
has
been
able
to
keep
that.
H
That
rate
down
has
been
the
local
option
of
that
50
of
it
being
the
property.
Tax
relief
has
been
able
to
keep
that
very
stable
compared
to
where
it
would
have
to
be
with
the
projects
that
we've
done
and
from
from
this
standpoint,
we've
also
a
good
example
of
what
we,
what
it
was
able
to
do.
In
addition
to
just
that
that
piece
of
it,
the
I
can't
remember
it,
was,
I
think,
april
council
approved
the
redemption
of
a
bunch
of
2014
bonds
in
the
past.
H
We
would
normally
refund
those
and
and
pay
them
off
with
a
refunding
and
then
basically
get
a
interest
rate
difference.
G
This
is
not
doing
any
harm
to
the
debt,
there's
an
opportunity
to
assist
and
help
the
six
million
for
three
years:
payment,
the
nfc
and
ndc.
We
get
that
cleaned
up
and
figured
out,
I'm
so
hopeful
that
is
available
to
us.
That's
six
million
of
savings
on
the
debtor
over
the
next
and
if
we
can
find
just
a
little
bit
of
the
parks
or
a
little
bit
of
the
not
sure
what.
J
G
D
Would
not
be
playing
we're,
not
we're
not
doing
the
violence
prevention
out
of
there.
That's
almost.
D
Is
the
trees,
that's
all
new,
but
we
still
have
budgeted
money
in
there?
We
do.
C
H
D
G
They
will,
or
at
least
that's
the
the
next
presentation
that
we
come
back
to
on
just
the
housing
and
also
the
park.
Now
the
housing
will
get
into
further
dividing
this
money
up,
and
I
have
a
handout
here
somewhere,
because
we've
got
a
work
group
with
the
city.
That's
been
working
towards
housing
needs,
okay
and
they've
been
able
to
identify
that
you
have
new
construction
need
actually
building
and
assisting
that's
likely
to
only
be
available
with
these
funds.
G
Get
it
all
done
so
yeah
shovel
ready,
but
then
there
is
a
big
piece
of
it
that
needs
to
be
rehab,
and
that's
where
those
part
non-profit
partners
you
just
mentioned
would
be
able
to
come
in
and
talk
through.
What?
What?
How
would
they
use
and
then
there's
also.
G
G
K
D
Going
to
have
to
keep
it
that
way,
I
mean
they're
they're
not
going
to
make
it
market
rate
without
doing
the
updating.
If
that's
what
you're
thinking
I
mean,
I
think
through,
I
think
what
you're
thinking
is
that
they're
going
to
switch
it
to
market
rate
and
we're
going
to
lose
that
affordability,
correct.
G
J
G
D
G
D
K
G
J
D
J
H
All
right
and
the
last
kind
of
category
was
the
one-time
budgetary
sports
that
we
have.
Obviously
parking
fund
was
one
that
we've
kind
of
already
touched
on.
That's
one
where
it
is
heavily
effective
with
the
revenue.
We
also
have
that
kind
of
concept
with
the
botanical
center
blank
park
zoo
and
bravo.
D
G
D
G
D
J
B
H
That's
just
the
city's
calculation
on
what
qualifies
for
revenues
so
carrying
our
loss
with.
F
Forget
about
the
bravo
board.
The
bravo
money
is
going
to
be
directly
allocated
to
des
moines,
for
programs
for
the
kit
for
the
for
kids.
So
it's
that
money
will
not
go
into
their
tools.
It's
gonna
be
for
programming,
for
them.
G
D
G
G
The
botanical
center
was
actually
funding
the
commitment.
Wasn't
it
nick.
A
K
D
D
Well,
we
have,
we
have
three
buildings
there.
Well,
I
guess
two
buildings,
because
a
win
found
the
other
building
that
they
need
to
in
the
fort
des
moines
for
their
need
for
their
master
plan.
To
do,
I
would
hope
they
would
put
to
have
a
new
entrance.
So
those
are
good
things
is,
is,
is
this
part
of
us
taking
down
the
because
we
own
those
buildings
at
the
board?
So
that's
our
responsibility.
We
funded
the
demo,
we
would
fund
the
demo
and
this
would
just
be
a
and.
C
D
Okay,
that's
good
if
that
wasn't
taken
to
taking
some
off
the
5
million
and
giving
it
to
the
to
the
zoo
in
the
botanical
center.
Or
is
that
is
that
what
you're
saying
wait.
D
Waiting
we're
waiting
for
the
we
had
a.
We
had
a
verbal
agreement
six
years
ago
to
take
him
down,
and
now
we've
had
to
start
over
through
shipow
and
to
take
the
other
down,
so
I
think
we're
getting
there
carl,
but
we'll
still
have
to
pay.
We
still
have
to
take,
but
there's
going
to
be
there.
You
know
they're
going
to
add
things
on
to
this,
and
this
is
the
fort
des
moines
that
we
are
responsible,
for
it
is
our.
D
D
K
C
D
D
A
C
C
D
D
D
I
mean
it's
hard
to
increase
something
when
you
don't
have
when
you
don't
have
it
in
front
of
you
I
mean
that's.
I
mean
I
understand
what
you're
saying,
but
I
mean
I'm
not
willing.
I
mean,
I
know
what
we've
got
with
the
two
entities
that
provide
service
for
our
residents
in
the
region.
We
have
one
zoo
in
our
state.
We
should
be
supportive
of
it.
I've
won,
I
have
one
amenity
in
my
ward,
I'm
I'm
gonna
fight
for
that
and
hope
that
they've
lost
more
than
a
million
dollars
in
revenue
during
copen.
D
They
should
be.
We
should.
We
should
try
whether
they
got
ppp
money
or
whatever
they
got.
We
should
try
to
get
them
whole
as
much
as
we
can
with
these
arpa
dollars.
It
lifts
up
the
whole
city,
the
mechanical
center's.
The
same
way
I
mean
I'm
asking
for
250
000
more,
you
take
500,
so
you
got
450
out
of
the
blitz
on
blight.
You
have
4.5
million
blitz
on
blight
and
you
give
the
blank
park
zoo
in
the
botanical
center,
a
million
dollars
a
piece.
I
I
G
So
for
monday,
I
want
to
go
back
to
that,
because
what
we
have
to
have
is
the
buckets,
but
then
I'd
like
to
spend
just
a
couple
minutes
on
the
allocations
that
need
to
occur
quickly
or-
and
I'd
like
to
still
do
this
monday,
if
possible,
the
parking
enterprise
line
item
that
we
talked
about
yep.
Can
we
leave
that
on
for
monday,
at
the
three
and
a
half.
D
G
D
H
H
In
the
greenhouse,
it's
with
within
the
actual
cost
of
greenhouse
plus
250
towards
the
solar
array,
design
and.
D
D
K
H
And
then
the
other
transfer
that
was
scheduled
for
monday,
as
well
as
the
first
allocation
of
the
north
side
community
center
as
well.
I
think
it
was
two
and
a
half
yeah.
H
That
would
be
that's
what
we
put
in
the
in
the
budget
for
transferring
to
have
enough
funds
if
we
started
started
construction
any
time
during
fiscal
year
23
or
any
of
the
cost
of
the
project.
We
have
multiple
funding
funding
going
into
the
project,
so
it's
there
ready
for
whenever.
H
H
H
D
H
G
This
one
may
be
a
good
one
to
just
leave
there
for
a
while
yeah.
I
understand
if
we
get
committed
to
it,
you're
going
to
ask
me
to
go
borrow
debt
or
something
of
that
nation.
I'd
rather
have
these
funds
sitting
there
for
at
least
the
next
year
until
they
figure
out
exactly.
This
is
what
they're
doing.
G
D
J
D
Had
to
do
basically
the
trails
and
the
stuff
along
scott
street,
so
the
the
out
of
water
amenities,
we
always
knew
we
had
to
do
that
on
scott
street,
that
was
ours.
We
were
putting
a
parking
lot
in,
we
weren't
putting
a
bathroom
in,
but
we
always
knew
that
our
amenities
was
outside
of
scott
street,
that
we
were
responsible
for.
That's,
not
the
six
million
that
we,
which.
N
N
D
N
D
No,
we
we
said
we
would
have
to
what's
what's
the
street,
that's
is
it
it's
harriet
street.
B
D
D
And
so
that
harriet
street
is
going
to
need
repaved
now,
there's
two
buildings
down
there
that
maybe
might
fall
into
that
commercial.
I
know
what
you're
talking
about
tear
down
yeah
that's
been
vacant,
for
I
don't
know
15,
maybe
20
years
a
pizza
house
has
been
empty
and
then
there's
another
building
that
sits
there.
It's
got.
D
N
Also
planned
developments
and
construction
activity
before
we
can
even.
J
C
J
G
D
G
And
then
the
three
items
we
just
talked
about
that
are
going
to
advance
quickly
with
transfers
and
then
additional
conversations
with
school,
district
and
potentially
others.
But
I
just
not
aware
of
other
child
care
that
are
going
to
fit
in.
D
C
Is
restricted?
We've
got
almost
30,
30,
plus
million
in
unrestricted.
We
could
use
it.
Okay,
sorry,
it's
not
it's
not
on
there
that
that
was
just
that.
First
part
of
the
presentation
where
there
was
restricted
and
non-restricted.
D
H
We're
kind
of
still
working
with
what
to
make
sure
that
we're
following
that,
because
that
that
number
might
change
just
because
it's
based
off
a
fixed
fiscal
year
loss.
We
it's
a
four
four
years
worth
of
calculation.
H
The
first
two
years
is
about
that
30
35
and
we're
about
to
finish
another
fiscal
year,
so
that
number
might
change
over
over
the
course
of
this
maybe
fall
to
where
we
would
have
a
number
of
how
it
would
break
out
and
when
you're,
when
we're
talking
about
that,
there's,
there's
still
we're
still
working
with
legal
and
when
we
work
with
the
different
entities
we'll
have
to
figure
out
if
it
works
for
what
product,
what
we're
trying
to
go
forward
with
with
them
does
it
fall
into
the
restricted
versus
non-restricted,
and
we
have
to
kind
of
track
that
as
we
go
to
make
sure
we
don't
go
over
our
non-restricted
amounts.
D
You
can
do
a
lot
of
the
the
parks,
the
trails,
the
site.
You
can
do
quite
a
bit
quite
a
bit
of
it
by
ward
and
if
you
have
some
neighborhood
commercial
revitalization
things
that
we're
looking
at
for
the
500
000,
nfc
and
dc
projects
where
they're
listed
at
I.
D
And
then
so
then
you'll
include
the
trail
section
that
I
that
I
threw
out
there.
I.
I
D
The
gailey
wilson
connection.
C
D
C
C
D
Councilman,
I'm
I'm
I'm
going
to
ask
for
that
information
before
I
vote
on
it,
because
I
have
to
answer
to
my
constituents
and
that's
who
that's
who
I
represent
and
I
need
to
look
at
them
and
say
you
got
your
fair
share
of
the
arpa
funds.
Now
you
can
do
whatever
you
want
as
your
war,
councilman
and
and
that's
fine,
but
I
I'm
I'm
going
to
treat
that
a
little
differently.
G
D
If
we're
voting
on
something
on
monday,
I
mean
we've
had
we've
had
we
haven't
had
any
discussions
ever
about
this
other
than
maybe
one-on-one
conversations
with
scott.
Maybe
a
few
conversations
with
you.
We
have
a
public
meeting
on
thursday
and
we're
supposed
to
vote
on
how
we're
going
to
do
the
buckets
on
monday,
I'm
not
comfortable
with
that.
D
H
D
Okay,
well,
there's
there's
the
three
yeah
I'll
I'll
vote
for
those,
but
I
want
the
other
information
before
I'm
voting
for
anything,
and
I
think
everyone
else
should
be
asking
for
the
same
thing
and
make
sure
we
have
the
information.
There's
no
reason
that
we
have
to
vote
for
these
buckets
monday.
I
think
we
need
to
have
more
conversations
for
sure.
A
D
I
mean
that
I
mean
that's.
I've
been
down
this
road.
I've
sat
here
for
eight
years.
I
know
when
we
vote
on
something
it's
difficult
to
change
and
whether
you
guys
have
seen
it
I've
seen
it
and
I'm
not
gonna,
be
I'm.
This
is
too
big
of
a
thing
to
be
pushed
in.
You
know
three
days
to
say
yeah.
These
are
the
right
buckets,
but
hey
listen,
you
can
change
it,
but
you
just
got
to
go
through
another
vote.
I'm
not
doing
that.